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DLC 17. Feel Her Love - The Last of Us S2E5 Spoilercast and Review | Games Over Plastic
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Where Is She?!!?!?!!. What an ep that was! The boys are back to breakdown and give our thoughts to everything that happened in S2 E5 of The Last of Us on HBO/Max. What did we think? What did you think? Check it out!
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Transcript
Introduction to Podcast
00:00:30
Speaker
Hello and welcome back to Games Over Plastic. This is a podcast that comes at you, you know, we we say bi-weekly, but then, you we're recording all the time. You know, we just did a nice spoiler cast, Hodge and I, for our current goatee for both of us, Claire Obscure Expedition 33, great game. We stewed for about an hour and a half about that. We both loved it. So if you've played that game you haven't checked out that spoiler cast, please check it out.
00:00:57
Speaker
If you haven't played that game, i would not listen to it until you play the game. Yeah. um Unless you do like really don't care. But then I'd be like, well, maybe you have better things to do than listen to a podcast. And I think about a game you didn't play.
Review of 'The Last of Us' S2E5
00:01:11
Speaker
um But today's episode is a very special ah continuation of a series we've been doing. where We're reviewing each and every Last of Us Season 2 episode. And last night was the premiere of Episode 5, Feel Her Love.
00:01:25
Speaker
Sounds like a nice rock song. And we're going to... review it but before we do that again this is games over plastic you can find us on podcast services you can um watch us on youtube you can give us a like give us subscribe uh leave us a review give us five stars um comment away really anything you would like as long as you're engaging and as always i'm joined by hodge the man how are you doing Doing good. I'm drinking water out of my big Star Wars cup that I got when I saw episode three in theaters again. But ah this was, ah ah I mean, obviously we'll get into it but guess this has been a step up in the last couple of weeks for me. So I thought it was a pretty good episode. Yeah.
00:02:08
Speaker
But felt a little rushed you know at the same time because they did it once again where one day was one episode. So it felt like we have to do everything from day two in about an hour. And so it felt a little rushed. But overall, I thought it was a step up from the last couple episodes. But happy to be here and happy to get into it.
00:02:25
Speaker
All right. And I'm joined. We are also joined by the Bucky's man. Midnight. How are you doing? I'm doing good.
00:02:36
Speaker
doing great. Just clocked out of work. And here I am. The episode was good. And I'm happy i'm excited to talk about it. And it was better than the last couple episodes, probably. It was good.
00:02:48
Speaker
um Yeah. All right. So let's get into it. Let's give our initial thoughts. So first off, I'm going go first. First of all, I got to say one thing, though. So
Game vs. Show: Character Depth
00:02:56
Speaker
secretly, um over the last five days, I replayed The Last of Us Part II.
00:03:02
Speaker
I replayed it. yeah And I'm going to say this. TV show. It's a good TV show. Really good. But it's definitely designed for those who have not played the game.
00:03:12
Speaker
Because... um the and Now that I replay the game, the game is, I'm going to say a thousand times better. I'm not saying I'm not enjoying the TV show, but the game is a thousand times better in my book.
00:03:23
Speaker
ah The casting of Bella Ramsey, now that I've actually replayed the game for first time in years, I'm like, wow. like Not even the casting. It's like the writing of Ellie is so...
00:03:35
Speaker
not the game Ellie like Ellie in the last of us part two is so much more of like I'm on my revenge tour I'm serious I'm ready to go and this is so different we got some of that at the end though we did get some of it at the end where you know with the whole scene with Nora and when she um kind of goes against Jess goes against what she said to Jesse and um Dina, when she sees the hospital and goes in by herself.
00:04:01
Speaker
um We do get that at the end, but I am like, so like, wow, the game, this is so different. And it's, and I'm telling it is so much more designed for those who have not played the game and it's more digestible.
00:04:12
Speaker
And um Hodge, what you were saying about how they kind of rush things with the, the days in one episode. Yeah. I feel like the beginning of episode two, will the beginning of this episode in the beginning of the episode of day one is kind of like the stuff you would have gotten the open world section of um one of the parts in Seattle.
00:04:31
Speaker
Yeah, the last of us where you get a lot of that optional stuff where you're building out story, and then you get the more meat of it. But overall, I thought the episode started slow, but I think it gradually picked up and finished at a real high point.
00:04:43
Speaker
It was like a mountain almost. I felt like it slow, slow build, but it was more satisfying as we went on. And we got our White Knight Jesse back. Yeah. I can't remember. Is that how, like obviously that's not exactly, but is it did he show up in the same, in a similar way in the game? I
Timeline and Continuity Issues
00:04:59
Speaker
couldn't remember. he Similar way, but not at that point. He showed up before, before this, at this point. I'm, um, it was before the hospital.
00:05:07
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. I couldn't remember. Cause I know she does the hospital by herself in the game, but I couldn't remember why and all that. So, uh, I couldn't remember if Dina takes an arrow to the knee and that stops her from being an adventurer like me. But, uh,
00:05:20
Speaker
ah Yeah, i can't I couldn't remember how the whole order went. but also yeah Also, one last thing before I throw it in, some continuity errors. right Ellie starts to sing Future Days by Pearl Jam. That song came out in 2013.
00:05:34
Speaker
Ten years before, Pearl Jam would have been dead by then. Come on. and The only reason why I say that is because Neil Druckmann made a point because someone called him out when ah The Last of Us 2 came out. well How is Joel obsessed with Future Days by Pearl Jam? He like specifically said, well, the single Future Days by Jam um Pearl Jam came out like two weeks before the outbreak happened in the video game universe.
00:05:56
Speaker
So Joe must have heard that in those two weeks. So just pointing that out there. We get a little bit of continuity here. Yeah, I remember that someone pointed it out and like, oh, we just have to use this song. So we just whatever. like They just didn't even try and explain it and for the show. There's like, yeah, whatever is part of the plot. We're putting it in anyway. i really yeah i'm just I'm just joking around. i song so Why did they change the outbreak day to begin with?
00:06:19
Speaker
I think it was to make it more like so like when they're walking around in 2023, it's like more relevant to the time we were watching it, which is stupid because it's. Yeah, it's you could have said it in 2053 and it still wouldn't have been like, I think it would have looked exactly the same.
00:06:37
Speaker
Yeah, it would it have still been post apocalyptic. You might as well have said it in 2023 so that it would have been modern day would have been relevant. Then the future wouldn't even matter because it's the future. But I don't know. It was weird.
00:06:47
Speaker
I mean, i don't really i don't I don't think it makes that big of a difference, but no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the song was in the game, so they had to use it. and Exactly. right. right Midnight. What do you think? Initial early thoughts.
00:07:00
Speaker
I mean, I haven't played the game, as everyone knows, so I Talk about just the episode. The episode was pretty good. um Like I said, I thought it was better than last week's ah and and better than the first episode.
00:07:11
Speaker
um One of the better ones. Overall, I enjoyed it. um I'll go into more detail as we break it down line by line. you know I'll give it give my thoughts on a more detailed basis. But overall, it was good, and I'm excited to talk about it scene by scene.
00:07:24
Speaker
All right. Well, let's do that right now. So we get that, we get the cold open with the, the wolves discussing the fungus in the air and the hospital. And I think this is a perfect setup for, um, obviously later on when we see, uh,
00:07:39
Speaker
the wolves trapped down in so and in the hospital, in the basement with Ellie, and they're still alive, and we get the whole, well, they're wondering why you killed your own men. And like she didn't actually kill them, she kind of just left them there, and they're still alive, and they're breeding those spores.
00:07:54
Speaker
I think they did a really good job with the whole spores aspect. I thought it looked really good. looked yeah ah phenomenal. I thought they did a really, really good job with the design of it, and um how it looked. And I thought the um But i mean, that's later. So we'll get into that later. But um yeah, we get that whole cold open with them discussing things and she kind of explains it.
New Threat: The Spores
00:08:16
Speaker
And it's kind of just setting up for the the future scenes.
00:08:19
Speaker
Well, yeah, it was great because the way it's happening is that lady's basically there because she's thinking that this person just like committed treason or something. Like she just murdered her crew like for no reason.
00:08:30
Speaker
And when she gets there, she's visibly upset. And she goes like, well, one of them was my son. And then like we then like she does the the you kind of the. the reveal of it's in the air and the ladies like instantly you could see her just like terrified. Like, yeah, it's like, which is, i was kind of intrigued by this because in the game, it's just a known fact that all the spores are in the air and they took it out of the first season because they didn't want it to be airborne and yada, yada, yada. And they did the, you know, the tendril stuff instead. But,
00:09:04
Speaker
It's kind of interesting that they're doing the stalkers and the in the air thing, like as if the fungus is evolving over time. It's not just like in the game is basically you're either a runner.
00:09:15
Speaker
Once you've been affected long enough, it grows enough that you become a clicker because it takes over your face and then eventually grows more and you become a bloater. So it's just kind of like over time you just grew more and more. But in this, it's kind of evolving. It's not just. Yeah.
00:09:29
Speaker
over time. It's almost like with the spores, it has to be like the entire environment is like infected too. And you're like you're like almost attached to the environment and that's what's affecting it. But I do find it. i do find it interesting.
Character Insights: Dina and Ellie
00:09:41
Speaker
It is. I actually kind of like the idea of them finding out like about the spores now. It it adds a whole new wrinkle to everything because so many, it's it's almost like they've been so like we have been saying they've been so comfortable with the infection that it's like nothing out. But did this whole new, we get new wrinkles. It's like, oh crap, we gotta really take this seriously again. yeah exactly you just mess around with them you know playing a big deer hunter with them yeah yeah right midnight
00:10:06
Speaker
Yeah, I thought this was a cool opening. um You know, you got to meet a couple of the wolves. I don't know if there are if they have a big impact later or not, but they were cool. Two female commanders, female empowerment. Yes, sir.
00:10:17
Speaker
um I thought it was cool how, you because obviously this is the first time they've mentioned spores in the show. ah Spores obviously were in the game, like you guys said, like in the first hour, like you're walking around with like gas masks on in the game.
00:10:27
Speaker
Yeah, in the first game too, yeah. But yeah, I thought it was pretty cool. um You know, you got to see that she was upset that she lost her son. um They made the right decision to seal it off and close it. So hopefully the spores don't get out and infect everyone.
00:10:39
Speaker
That's what you would have to do, unfortunately, even if your son's down there. um And yeah, it's a good setup for later because when we get to the later scene where, you know, Ellie's chasing her down, they show that B2 and you're like, oh shit, that's where the spores are.
00:10:52
Speaker
Yeah, you even see you see the guy's, what was his name? Was it Leon? Yeah, you see his name on his... Her son, yep. Yeah, you see the name on the tag. Yeah, but then it swaps to the theater and we get Dina mapping out the wolf's position.
00:11:06
Speaker
we even get the whole, like, it shows how much smarter and more, like, this is what is very different in the game. Dina is very much more of the, like, savvy, the more smart one about it. She's an idiot in the game.
00:11:20
Speaker
she Yeah, it's it's almost like roll it's almost like role reversal, where Ellie is kind of acting a lot dumber. But then again, later on, we get Ellie being a little bit smarter. So I don't know. Maybe they're doing that. But yeah, Dina is mapping out the positions of the wolves.
00:11:34
Speaker
They even mention how the Seraphites... like don't use technology. So the the wolves are so used to that that they can just spew out commands no matter what. Like they they have no fear of anyone hearing it.
00:11:46
Speaker
She's like these freaking idiots. Now I'm just mapping out. She even gets the the triangular combination. I mean the triangular thing. She's triangling them out. She makes it. She's like, oh, if I had a ah protractor protractor. Yeah. And then Ellie's like, oh, I had a protractor.
00:11:59
Speaker
yeah Really? No, it's like, I don't know what that is. Yeah. yeah it's It's interesting to me that Dina has both the looks and the brains in this. Poor Ellie. Yeah. And I think a lot of it has to go with, well, Ellie was brought up through Fedra, whereas I think it's, we saw what Fedra looks like. i think it's much different. It's almost like living in like, not poverty, but it's like living in, i'm almost going to like, just more of like a military school. Just a military, martial law. Yeah.
00:12:25
Speaker
martial law whereas Dina was i mean we get the whole backstory later on about how Dina left her family at eight and she's probably been in Jackson for a decade so she was schooled in Jackson for a decade and they probably the way Jackson was run it was like kind of like a real society so she probably got actual schooling yep dude yeah yeah I mean we'll get to yeah i right I'll always save it for when we do get to her telling her story later but I just comment about that but yeah it was see that's the thing is Like, in the game, obviously you said she's completely written differently. It's not that... I didn't like... The writing in the game, I mean, like, the dialogue and stuff was good in the game, other than bacon sandwich.
00:13:07
Speaker
But, um... But like I said, I like that in the show, they do still give her her little bit of sarcasm. Like she doesn't go full serious because it would have been such a drastic change of character.
00:13:20
Speaker
So I do like that. She, even though it's, it's kind of, it's annoying that there's a, there's a couple times even later on, we'll get to it where Ellie just kind of is starting to act like a school girl around her. And it's like, come on, like, like you, she had a little more, uh, uh,
00:13:37
Speaker
adult look on the relationship in the game than this, where she's just basically acting like a starstruck child. And it's just like, come on, we need to not have this dialogue, but yeah, I think I know. what I think I know a point you're talking about. And um I had, ah i had a similar thought to that.
00:13:51
Speaker
yeah Um, but yeah, so then Ellie goes in terms of the power, um, we find the theater and she starts playing the future day song. Like we talked about, she did. She only sings that one line of it. And, um, obviously you can see on her face, she's thinking of something.
00:14:05
Speaker
Um, we can all infer. Well, I think Hodge and I know what she's thinking of. i think Midnight, I think you can infer what she's thinking of. I was inferring that she got emotionally choked up because that was a Joel thing and she lost Joel. So she's like, I can't do it. I can't do this.
00:14:19
Speaker
That's my guess. Yeah, that's with this scene. I thought that this was going to be the flashback episode because I really thought that because it shows her just kind of staring off into space after she sings that line. So I really thought that was going to be a way to cut to a past scene with Joel.
00:14:35
Speaker
But obviously instead, as we saw at later in the episode, it's not this episode. But so that I kind of thought that was a little a missed opportunity because she does play the one song that just gets up and leaves. i was like, oh, was expecting a little more.
00:14:48
Speaker
I mean, like the scene itself wasn't bad, but I was, like I really was expecting like that would be a way to her having like a memory of Joel that we all see kind of thing. But I think that, I think that, that, ah that would have been a great open into the memory episode. But I also think the way that I know it's later on, but the way they ended this to go to the memory episode next time, I think that was really powerful too. And really strong too.
00:15:12
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. We'll get to it, but yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm a little back and forth on that one, but. yeah So she does the song, and then we move on from there. Yeah, so then Dina, she goes back to Dina, she explains the patrol route, they figure out what they're going to do, they they make note of that the big building, they don't know what it is, ends up being the hospital, is... um Not the hospital. ends up being... um Like the warehouse. Like an office. Like a call center almost. Yeah, like a call center or an office. She's like, for some reason, like no one goes in there. It's all locked off. No one's in there. And they're like, well it has to be infected.
00:15:47
Speaker
can' well She's like, well, that's an easy way to get through there if no one's in there. So they make a plan to go there, and they decide to go there. and they're like, well, we can get there by night. And... um So Dean and Ellie take off to go there.
00:15:59
Speaker
And when they leave, they find those dead Seraphites. And it is pretty, it's a pretty brutal, brutal scene there with the, um, He had the worship of like the, um, their, um, kind of funny. Yeah. It said, feel her love. And then underneath they put feel this bitch. and yeah like all the That was kind of funny, even though it was a dark scene.
00:16:22
Speaker
Yeah. And you can tell that it was just recent because the bodies are still, they haven't even, they haven't really decayed yet. The flies are still all around them. Probably smells horrible. Yeah. Yeah, their their skin was just kind of white, and you could see that it was starting to decompose. But yeah, that definitely was, you know, probably within a week or whatever. But yeah. Yeah, i i I did laugh out loud at the feel this bitch but on the wall.
00:16:48
Speaker
That is so much like if you like I'm trying to think of it like if this was like a real life thing, it probably would be something like that. Oh, yeah. i Think of like two gangs going at each other. That's something a soldier.
00:17:00
Speaker
That's something a soldier would do. When you're in a war and you hate the other side. Yeah. That's, that's what you would do. yeah Yeah. The gallows humor. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, then we, we allude to that.
00:17:11
Speaker
they they talk about how Ellie's like, know, Dina, if you want to go back. And Dina's like, you know, and we get into Dina's backstory here. And this kind of it goes into why she wants to keep going. So let's talk about Dina's backstory. She talks about the first time she killed somebody and she was eight years old, living in Santa Fe, New Mexico with her mom and her sister.
00:17:32
Speaker
She decides to go play outside when she's not supposed to. She brings the gun though, which is good. And when she comes back, um, or there was a raider there and the raider had killed her mom and her sister.
00:17:43
Speaker
And the raider kind of just stares at her and she shoots them. Um, not what I expected. i was expecting the way she was so setting it up. I was expecting her to say like, I went outside and when I came back,
00:17:54
Speaker
like my parent, like my family was infected and I had to shoot. That's what I thought too. Yeah. Or I thought that then when she brought up the Raider part, I thought she was going to say, I attempted to shoot the Raider and I accidentally shot my mom and my sister. and So then I killed everyone.
00:18:08
Speaker
That's what I was thinking. do Listen, I got my mind. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that would have been dark. Yeah. um I was thinking those two things. And then when it got to that, I was like, oh, well, I mean, nothing that's like, umm I'm sure that's like a very, and to me, that could be like a common story for many people in this universe.
00:18:24
Speaker
yeah Yeah, it just it just felt so I don't know if it's just the actress and how unimposing she is, but like the way she told the story, it just felt like.
00:18:36
Speaker
it well It felt one. It felt like out of place a little bit because she does. i mean, obviously, we know why she's saying it. She goes, because it's it's like this. If I had seen my parents, mom and sister die, I would hunted that man for the rest of my life kind of thing, which is good. But the way she's telling the story, she's doing it like how I imagine, like, you know, in a cliche, like old movie where there's like, like,
00:18:57
Speaker
they're at a bar getting ready to go on an adventure. And there's a man with a peg, leg like, like, y'all don't go be going out there. Like, because of like, that's kind of the vibe I got of her telling this story of like, she's so tough, but I'm like, she's a five foot, 200 pound girl. And she's like saying this in like this very serious tone. um' I'd like,
00:19:16
Speaker
It's the same thing with like Ellie taking down men twice her size. i'm like, I just can't buy the toughness in this. So it fell flat for me, but it was a good story of like the whole thing of like, you never asked me how ah wow I got my first kill. And then she kind of tells her heartbreaking story. But it also had the moment where she's like, oh, then how'd you get to Jackson from there? She's like, I don't want to tell you that or so so something like that. I'm just like, AK, the writers hadn't thought of why or how.
00:19:42
Speaker
So they just they just went out like just ask her it. You didn't need know. Yeah. So I have some thoughts there for that. um i didn' I mean, obviously, she doesn't come off as very tough.
00:19:53
Speaker
Honestly, I agree. But I don't feel like that story was her meant to be tough because she was only eight, I believe, at the time. So obviously, an eight-year-old girl is not going to be that tough. She just ended up shooting the guy.
00:20:04
Speaker
But um the thing that really... The thing that really got to me in this scene was the cringe Marvel line that happened right afterwards. um And I assume that this is a quote from the game, I'm guessing.
00:20:17
Speaker
ah But it was delivered very poorly, in my opinion, and it was very cringey. I forget. She was like, well, the downside is that we're being risky or whatever word she uses. I forget. And then, of course, Ellie at the end, she's like, let's go be risky or whatever. It was so cringe Marvel. That is not in the game, by the way. That is not in the game.
00:20:33
Speaker
That was 100% cringe Marvel writing right there. She's like, let's go be dangerous or whatever it was. I think that was i think that was when they were planning back at the theater. But yes, that that was still. Yeah, no that was right after the story.
00:20:43
Speaker
Yeah, it was right after the story. Yeah.
Ellie's Reflection and Flashback Setup
00:20:46
Speaker
And know that was definitely not game. Also, note about the writing. I learned that Neil Druckmann took a huge step back from the writing this season.
00:20:54
Speaker
He I guess he wrote a majority of season one. Whereas what's his name? Craig, Craig, what's his name? Craig Mazlin, Mazlin, something M E Z I N Mazin. Yeah. Whatever that guy's name is.
00:21:07
Speaker
He did majority of the writing for this season. And I think you definitely see the drastic writing difference from this season to last season. Yeah. I just thought that I thought that line had to have been in the game because sold out so much and it but it was so cringy, dude.
00:21:21
Speaker
It was straight up Marvel. It was like, I'm talking to a cuff type writing right there. That line. She's like, let's go be risky or whatever. Let's go be reckless. I'm looking at it right now. It is when they were in the theater. I was right.
00:21:34
Speaker
Oh, okay. All right. o ah Obama medal. Obama medal on my bed. then next what But I was right that it was Marvel. And you're right that it's cringy. Yes, yes. I completely forgot about that line until you said that. There's another cringy line coming right up, too.
00:21:49
Speaker
Oh, yes. Yes. um Next up, we have where they sneak past the spotlights to get into the building. And when they're in there, they make note. Oh, my gosh. We snuck by. There's no more lights in here. All the spotlights are outside. That means we're safe in here. But last resort, we use our guns because that means if we use our guns, they're going to know we're here.
00:22:08
Speaker
um They also take note that they know that one door is not locked. that if they run in there, um there's no wolves, but we have no idea what's in there because it's really dark. Ellie's like, well, let me go in because I can be bitten.
00:22:20
Speaker
Dina's like, no, we're going go in together. um But we get that cringy line about... um No, that was a little bit later. with the really quick But we do get some cringey lines here. This isn't the I love you line, right? No, that's not here yet. is. it's oh okay she goes She goes like, well, you think I'm going go in there shooting? and She goes, yes, and that's why I love you, but blah, blah, blah. And then she just like, paused oh what you love me?
00:22:42
Speaker
Yes, okay, so like yeah, that was the cringey line. And I was like, wow, that is so uncharacteristic of Ellie. Like, so uncharacteristic. Even if you don't like the writing in part two, wouldn't have done that in part two. But even in part one, she probably would' have made some sarcastic comment about it.
00:22:57
Speaker
yeah like i said that's that's the other part like i said just you know not too long ago where i'm like she has like this
Episode Rating and Listener Engagement
00:23:04
Speaker
school girl crush on her now and it's like she's and treating this relationship how like ah a true 14 year old would treat it and it's like i see it every day yeah oh man remember remember the days i mean you're still seeing the kids in the hallway yep i see it every day and To be fair, though, I mean, if you looked like a potato and you were somehow hooking up with a girl who's like a nine or a ten, ah you'd probably be head over heels, too. you know what I mean?
00:23:33
Speaker
That's fair. That's very fair. Yeah, no. So, yeah, we get that and then they go in there and when they're in there, they're in the... Kind of a warehouse area. in Yeah, the warehouse area. They realize there are stalkers. There are plenty. because they're like Oh, there's only one. There's only one stalker. We can take it out.
00:23:50
Speaker
Oh, it well you took it out by yourself. it It didn't bite you. Well, no, it did bite me. And then, but they're like, it's two on one now. But then they realize there are clickers there as well. So that adds another wrinkle. um So now we're like, oh, crap. So we have to go back to the way we came. And then they go back and it's like, oh, no, we can't.
00:24:05
Speaker
Yeah, there's like five stalkers behind them too. and yeah yeah so But the thing I like
Closing Remarks and Teasers
00:24:10
Speaker
about this scene is, i don't know, maybe it just maybe this was on purpose or if it was or whatever, but like my big complaint from the first episode was that they were in the building with clickers and they're like doing all this like visual gags. like like They're like basically not taking it seriously.
00:24:26
Speaker
But in this one, when they see the stalkers like Dina is visibly scared. Like she's never seen it. She's never seen anything like it. Yeah. So she is terrified. And even, even Ellie is scared of this because, well, obviously it's more of, cause she doesn't want Dina to get bit, but she's like, they're actually like scared.
00:24:44
Speaker
in this which made me happy because like we said at the start of the episode it adds like people have gotten used to like okay it's the runner then the clicker then the bloater and that's what we have to deal with and so now that there's these two new threats people are actually scared of them again which and there's the there's the fire alarm again Sean you gotta change that battery dude you gotta fix it whatever the issue is it's still going off.
00:25:10
Speaker
But yeah, so I like that it's terrifying in that sense. And so then they get the plan of you run for the cage. I'll distract them because I can get bit and whatnot. And then that plan doesn't go very well because she gets into the cage and they instantly start tearing away the chain link. And Ellie is instantly so overwhelmed.
00:25:30
Speaker
Uh, sidebar about the alarms. Uh, it's not batteries in, it's not the alarms itself. It's an internal wiring thing. Uh, if I were to do it, they have to tear down walls. I'm not doing that. Oh, yeah.
00:25:41
Speaker
yeah I will say, um, you know, I have been critical at times of, uh, of Ellie, let's be honest, but I will, I have to give them their flowers for this scene here because I thought the acting from both, uh, Ellie and Dina was really good in this scene when they're talking about the stalker, because like the tension and the fear was very obvious and palpable.
00:26:01
Speaker
And it, it, like it gave me anxiety watching it. Like it was a very tense scene. I could feel like the stress that they were under. And then especially when you, they reveal that there's multiple enemies of swarming out. I was like, Oh shit. ah Um,
00:26:13
Speaker
yeah yeah i was even thinking along the lines of like oh my god like what's like because the show's taking so many changes like what are they gonna do like is dina gonna make it out of here alive because you had them like all on top of ellie and then you have them breaking that cage and then that's when we get the shots from jesse our white knight jesse comes in yeah uh did you think it was jesse midnight I did not. I thought that it was going to be Tommy.
00:26:38
Speaker
So when the shots broke out, I was like, who is this? It's Tommy, right? And then they showed, and it was our our muscular boy, Jesse. ah The gig of Chad, he showed up. And that was pretty cool. He saves the day. And then he's freaking out like, was you were you bitten? You were bitten?
00:26:50
Speaker
And the Latina's like, no, no, trust me. She wasn't bitten. Yeah, the my I obviously I love seeing Jesse back, but it felt very do sex machina like just like they were fucked and then suddenly he comes in with a shotgun and is able to take them all out. I'm like, he had a shotgun.
00:27:08
Speaker
I think so. I didn't realize that if he had a shotgun, he would have probably hit Ellie, too. I think it was. I was i think it was just an no an automatic rifle. thought it was like AR. I don't know. Oh, yeah, it does look like an AR. I'm looking at it now. Yeah. If you spray a shotgun, you're probably going hit friendlies, too.
00:27:22
Speaker
I mean, but Hodge, I mean, that's that's modern TV for you. they're full of them. Every show. Yeah. Well, then, of course, it's funny. I'll just say this now and then to set up later. They don't miss shots when they're shooting zombies.
00:27:35
Speaker
But yeah, but then we'll get to it later. But yeah, so they obviously he takes them out and then they run to the forest and the wolves like we don't go in there. Don't go in there. Yeah, well, I think what you were about to say was while they were running to the forest, the wolves missed like 12 shots while they're running. Like stormtrooper aim when it's convenient.
00:27:54
Speaker
Exactly. But when there's a zombie, it's headshot, headshot, headshot. They have ah they have the the spotlight on so they have a perfect view of them and missing every single shot. They have 12 people chasing them all, shooting at them, all missing. Yeah.
00:28:07
Speaker
Yeah. That's that plot armor. Exactly. Plot armor for sure. But yeah, so they run into that forest. The wolves won't go in. They make they find the Seraphites killing a wolf. It's pretty brutal, the scene. We get how that they pretty much mutilate the bodies with the intestine.
00:28:21
Speaker
They put the... They disembowel them, you know. They hang them and they put hook up there. and Yeah, before I want to say that, we also get the huge difference between the Seraphites and the wolves there. We get a torture scene of the wolf torturing the Seraphite, Isaac torturing the guy in season and previous episode where that Seraphite will not give up anyone.
00:28:40
Speaker
He will not. He's like, i'm not going to do it. Torch me all you want. You won't. This wolf is instantly ready to give everyone up. He's like, no, I'll give you up. i I'll tell him. So we see that dichotomy there between the different huge difference between the two groups.
00:28:51
Speaker
His first line was, I'll join you guys. Exactly. yeah So we get that huge, it it goes to show you there's a huge difference between the two groups here. One is much more loyal when it comes to things, and I think that might be playing a factor later on.
00:29:04
Speaker
Fanatical is the word I would use, but yeah. Yeah. um But yeah, it it is, that scene is pretty brutal. They have the um like the sickle right onto the stomach, and then they just kick the bucket, and they raise them up. Oh my god, it was disgusting. Yeah.
00:29:19
Speaker
I like, uh, before like that part happened, I like that when they get in there, they're like we don't go in there. So their first thought is, oh crap, there's infected in here. Like we're just got led into another, but it's actually ah turf war thing where no, we don't go where the seraphites are.
00:29:34
Speaker
No. Um, Which is funny. And then, yeah, we start hearing on the whistle. And then they make the plan. Okay. um Ellie's like, all right, I'll distract them. You guys get out of here. I'll meet you up somewhere else. So then Ellie starts shooting a gun. So they only think it's one.
00:29:46
Speaker
um She runs away. um as she's running away, she eventually kind of loses the loses the trail. And then she looks. And instead of going back to where she's supposed to go, she sees the hospital, which is the end location they're supposed to be going to.
00:30:00
Speaker
Originally. I got I got two things about the scene really quick for midnight goes. I first before I forgot before they get in there. ah They're like, how did you find where we were? And she like she says, I found your map at the theater.
00:30:13
Speaker
And then she goes, how did you find us? How did you find the theater? And he goes, do I look like I want to talk to you right now? And I was like, it was another thing of where the writer couldn't think of how they got there. So they just had to had to push it away.
00:30:24
Speaker
But then also, would they have thought that Ellie was alone? Because some certified at perfect game and shot her right and shot Dean on the leg. So they knew they were there. Yeah, but I think at that point they were.
00:30:35
Speaker
um more focused on just Elial because she was the one shooting. And I think that maybe they didn't she alone, but they were focused on that. They they thought they were all contained in that one area. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got you.
00:30:47
Speaker
That's what I would think. Yeah, and I forgot to mention, yeah, Dina does get shot with the arrow, which is like pretty like, oh, my mom was like, oh my God, no! Is that how she gets sidelined in the game or did she just go? gets sidelined before that. It's way before that. was going to say, thought so. It's at the end of day one is when she's sidelined.
00:31:04
Speaker
Okay. Was it because of the pregnancy or something else? I can't remember. It's because of the pregnancy. She's having oh she's having a lot of complications because of the pregnancy. And Ellie's like, I'm not bringing you out here. That's another big difference. In the game, Ellie decides, like, I'm not bringing you out here you Like, you are not coming.
00:31:18
Speaker
Like, I am deciding that. When I turned on the game, when I got my pro, because I just wanted to look at the game and how pretty it is on it. And I was at the i quit the game when they got to the theater. And she does, i'm I'm immune. I'm pregnant. And I was like, I'm done. I can't do this anymore.
00:31:34
Speaker
But so I turn it on. It was right after that scene. And Ellie's walking around in the theater like, God, she's fucking pregnant. Are you kidding me? Like, she's like so angry about it. Yeah. As opposed to the show. She's like, I'm going to be a dad.
00:31:46
Speaker
She's more she's in the game. She's angry because she's putting Dina at risk. That's what she's so angry about. And she's like, I don't want Dina to be at risk here. yeah And she's like angry because she's like, well, I've dragged it. She blames herself for bringing her out here, basically.
00:32:00
Speaker
Yeah. Um, but that's beside the point because we are talking about the show. Um, but yeah, so we get to, um, Oh, min did you want to speak about this? Well, I was just going to say that I was surprised when Dina got shot because they're in the forest or in the woods in the dark.
00:32:18
Speaker
Uh, and there was no spotlight that was shined on them and they didn't make any noise or get revealed. So I don't know how that spotter just saw her and just randomly shot, but Hey, good shot. Good eyes. I guess, uh, he has the, um, the,
00:32:29
Speaker
the He's the perk. What's the perk in Call of Duty? we can like ah see Is that a perk or an attachment? I don't even know. I don't know. Night vision or whatever? i don't know yeah and and so too I don't Maybe I missed something, but I didn't get the vibes that Ellie chose to go to the hospital by herself, but more that she was chased by the dog and that's where she ended up. She had to crawl through that hole. She takes a look at the hospital and looks back and makes a conscious decision towards the hospital.
00:32:56
Speaker
and looks back and makes a co oh yeah that's hospital It's after that point. It's after that point. Um, when she decides I'm going in that way, but she could have gone a different way, but she makes that conscious decision because in her head, she has that, this is where I'm getting more of the video game. Ellie, I'm on a revenge. So I don't care what the freak happens.
00:33:14
Speaker
I am out here for revenge. Um, midnight, you're right though. She runs to the hospital and that's when the, um, we see all the wolves protecting it. We get the dogs. Those, um, those are,
00:33:26
Speaker
Classic military dogs, I'm pretty sure. The dogs they use in the military. German Shepherds. German Shepherds, yeah. I'm not ah i not ah i'm not a big dog brand guy. I like dogs, but I don't know dogs. I almost said Golden Retriever, but that wouldn't have been it.
00:33:38
Speaker
Yeah. It was Chihuahuas chasing It was like Clifford, right? Yeah, I find that kind of like found that kind of hokey of like... Because doesn't the guy say like there's nothing there or something? She said it was just an animal or She said it was just an animal, yeah.
00:33:51
Speaker
Okay, because it's like... thought it was an animal because it was just a small opening that she got through. Oh, yeah, that only that only a ah child-sized person could get through. Yeah, I guess. She's such a freaking midget.
00:34:04
Speaker
um Yeah, so we get that and then we're in the hospital. And... Yeah, this was... um ah Other than that cringy dog, I just thought it was kind of dumb that the guy's like, oh, he says something else. I thought feel like they would have put a little more effort into it, but I found it very convenient. It's one of those things where it's like the you kind of roll your eyes at how the convenient how the cards fall. like she She just manages to catch Nora alone. Yeah.
00:34:35
Speaker
Okay. Like she's sneaking through this hospital that has all these people crawling around and she's able to find the one room where Nora's alone. where Yeah. Whereas in the game, it's like a, it's a buildup that you're going through. You're, you're hearing the people talk about like, Oh, Nora's low.
00:34:48
Speaker
Oh, I'm in like, you hear on the radio, like I'm located in this area. So then Ellie's like, Oh, I need to be able to get to this area. Whereas and I think a lot of that has to do with a time constraint of it the time restriction of, I guess, TV, even though it's HBO, they shouldn't restricted to how long they can have their episodes.
00:35:02
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Especially in a seven, I don't know. I get really weird about the time thing. I'm like, it really doesn't make them as long as you want. Right. Like a podcast. used to be yeah Like Sons of Anarchy. if you got Did you guys ever watch that show?
00:35:17
Speaker
my My parents did. My parents did, and heard it. That show is awesome. Dude, I love that show. I highly recommend it to everybody. But at the end of a and the last season or two of that, like they were literally doing like hour and a half, hour and 40 minute long episodes because they wanted to make sure that they covered everything.
00:35:34
Speaker
like They didn't care. They just did it. um yeah so uh we get that yep she conveniently finds nora in there by herself and that's when um they start talking ellie can uh confronts her with the gun pointed and nora is kind of nora kind of knows how to get under her skin though because she's like yeah she she she basically explains why um abby did what she did but then she says oh yeah that was later Oh, that was later. Yeah, you're right. from those fours area That was later. So this point, she talks she's trying to... she's like she She plays off like, oh my gosh, yeah, it hurt me too. like I hear his screams at night.
00:36:12
Speaker
But yeah, he got what he deserves. And she knows how to get under Ellie's skin because that really like pisses her off. It kind of catches her off her guard and that's when she makes the move where she flops the... I don't even know. Was that water? was that It was just alcohol or something. Who knows? Yeah, she was cleaning some bandages or something in a tub and she...
00:36:29
Speaker
I think was just water or no, it it did come from a bottle. So it's probably probably like vinegar or rubbing alcohol or something. He's at Ellie and runs away and yells, intruder, intruder, shoot the girl.
00:36:40
Speaker
Yeah. yeah And then another scene where no one can hit any shots. Yeah. Real quick, this will tell you how bad my memory is. I didn't recognize Nora from the earlier episode. like I guess she was part of the group.
00:36:53
Speaker
The only thing that I thought when I saw Nora, I was like, this this ball this bald lesbian chick looks like the girl from Intergalactic. It's the same person. is that actress yeah That's her actress, yeah yeah yeah. She was also the bad guy in ah the Uncharted movie.
00:37:08
Speaker
Okay, well, they like using her. yeah Naughty Dog keeps in the family, I guess. But yeah, so she runs away and then we get to the point where Ellie runs through. She's missing all the shots and then she Nora finds herself cornered. The only way out is to get through the conveniently little open elevator shaft. But if she jumps through and can't get to the other side, she's to fall to the basement, which is where we know from earlier.
00:37:34
Speaker
It is a no go zone. We cannot go down there. Yeah. it's Spoiler Someone who works in ventilation. ah If you had that elevator cracked open, ah those spores would have gotten up through that into the building. So it's kind of dumb that they left a elevator door cracked open that led down to where the deadly spores are.
00:37:54
Speaker
In their defense, is it possible that maybe because the elevator was stuck down there, maybe the elevator was blocking the airflow? i don't I don't know. I think she did peel open a door downstairs, didn't she?
00:38:04
Speaker
Yeah, she had to. like The elevator collapsed when she jumped on it. It fell down floor. Okay, yeah. That's probably it then. I'm sure it was blocking. But basically, you can almost see the desperation in Nora from that point because she knows like if I don't get through here, I'm like totally screwed because if this falls, I'm done.
00:38:20
Speaker
And it ultimately falls. She runs Ellie. Then Ellie has stormtrooper aim at that point. She shoots like eight times down there at the elevator or five times or something. It doesn't lay in on the ground. Yeah. Yeah. Can't hit a single shot. Convenient. Yep.
00:38:35
Speaker
Ellie chases after we get down there and then that's when we find all the wolves who were presumably. supposedly killed by their own person, but nope, they are down there. They are attached to this giant infected thing and they're s spewing off the spores. And this is where we can talk about the spores a little bit.
00:38:52
Speaker
Like I said earlier, i think they did a really good job at the presentation of this. You can just see like in there, it was almost like watching someone like, Like, breathe smoke or something. Yeah, this is a really bad, like, I got down a rabbit hole once going down, like, a lot of 9-11 videos, and, like, after, like, the debris that falls, up like, to see, like, them just breathing, and you can just see, like, the, um, all the debris and the smoke and the dust just breathing in and out, it was really disgusting. That's what it reminded me of.
00:39:19
Speaker
Just horrifying. Yeah, they made it look... Because, yeah, in the game, it's just like in the first game second game, it's just there's occasionally a room where you're like spores and you put on a gas mask. That's literally all buzzy it does. And you can see like random puffs. You see like random puffs.
00:39:35
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah, it actually looks like... imposing in the show, which that's the one thing I love about the fact that this is an HBO show is they do so well with the settings and stuff like that. It looks so good.
00:39:50
Speaker
Occasionally, there is the one where they go outside and then you see in the distance the building the buildings are very CGI, but like the actual physical sets that they make looks so good. It looks incredible.
00:40:00
Speaker
Yeah. um Yeah, I also liked how that the the people who they infected who were spewing the spores are so grossly infected and so attached like they can't they don't even like move they just like sit there and like you can see they're alive but they they can't do anything other than breathe um and that's when we start hearing nora cough and it actually a throwback to uh that opening scene when she says you know i heard them call like he couldn't breathe all he was doing was coughing and that's when i knew something was totally wrong and we we get that from her and nora's like i you don't understand you killed both of us
00:40:38
Speaker
I'll take over there since it's an alarm. Yeah. ah She's like, you killed both of us. And Ellie's like perfectly fine, like breathing. She's like, did I? And that's when ah Nora looks at her and is like, you're the one. You're the one who's immune.
00:40:50
Speaker
yep you're You're the chosen one. The chosen one. that that was I did love that though because like they said in like the very first episode when they're like, they didn't believe that there was an immune person. like that like They just knew Joel killed everyone. They had no idea why.
00:41:05
Speaker
And so she's like she gets the realization of like, oh, you do exist. and But then of course she's so mad. She's like, do you know what he did? He killed the really doctor who could have made the cure and all that. And I do love that Ellie's kind of now at the point where obviously at the start of the episode, you know, or the season, you kind of see that she's upset with like ah that he made the choice for and all that shit. But now you can see that she's accepted the the choice and she's like, yeah, yeah, he saved me like that kind of look on her face.
00:41:34
Speaker
And we get ah little um alluring to Abby, making it slow and painful. Like, I'm not going to just put you out of your misery with this gun. You're going to tell me where Abby is, and I'm just going to torture and make it really slow.
00:41:45
Speaker
And whether I kill you with this, whatever, she picked up like a piece of pipe, a pipe whatever, whatever you, which gets yeah gets hits out of that in the game. with whether i kill you with this pipe or you die because the spores turn you you're gonna yeah i'm just gonna torture you and make it slow and painful so that was really powerful um and then obviously it cuts the black and then it cuts and we see ellie waking up in jackson with joel and that is gonna be the lead into the next episode yeah so i mean i go I feel like we might have skipped past this Nora torture scene a little fast.
00:42:18
Speaker
I do want to mention how well the acting was in this. This was one of the parts where I thought Bella Ramsey absolutely killed it. Like the rage and anger on her face where she was like screaming, where is she? Like whatever was like really good.
00:42:32
Speaker
um And yeah, I thought she killed it. That was a great scene. Very believable. this is This is video game alley right here. This is definitely video game alley. That's what I figured. That's the thing is like, I understand, like, I'm not discounting your liking of it, but...
00:42:49
Speaker
Ashley Johnson, Ellie is so much more terrifying in the scene in the game. Like she's so good in this. I, I do like that. It was basically one for one in a bit in a, in a way for this scene. But the one thing I didn't like, or I shouldn't say i didn't like that. I was kind of bummed about is not that I need like brutal murder or anything, but in the game, it shows, she doesn't show nor getting beaten to death, but it shows her swinging it.
00:43:11
Speaker
And like, it's basically kind of what they did in the first season when she's hacking away at a, ah the the the pedophile, yeah, David. ah It was basically that, but in the game, and it's in that red light, so it's very brutal seeing her do that. So in this one, she just kind of did two whacks, and then it cuts to black. I was like, oh, I was kind of expecting more of the showing the look on her face as she did it, and like the blood kind of, you know, whatever. Like, I expected a little more, so the fact that they cut away, I was actually kind of surprised that they did it after only a couple hits, but it's not, it's really, it's not a criticism, it was just more of a
00:43:45
Speaker
yeah of an observation. yeah The game is definitely much more violent than the show. They show a lot more in the game. yeah Yeah. Well, it's like you're saying... ah oh go ahead and you I was just going to say, yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, it's it's Bella Ramsey, right?
00:44:00
Speaker
um But I would say for her, I think she probably did about as good as she possibly could have in that scene, ah displaying that rage and like the emotion. I thought she did great, even though the casting is still bad.
00:44:11
Speaker
ah But what were you going to say? Oh, was going to say, I think in a way, like I said this to Locke when we did the episode two together for this, I feel like they're afraid of making it too violent because it'll turn off viewers. Because as much as much as they want it to be like...
00:44:29
Speaker
realistic I think the majority of viewers don't like super violent TV shows. Like I said, ah in for my example of that one was I think the the Joel's death was a little less brutal than the game because I think they were afraid of what happened to The Walking Dead happening to The Last of Us because that baseball bat scene in The Walking Dead killed that show.
00:44:52
Speaker
And I think they don't want that to happen to The Last of Us. So I think they are toning down some of the violence. Obviously, it's still pretty violent. The guy got disemboweled earlier in the episode. But I think they're toning it down just a little bit. They don't want to see someone be brutally beaten to death on yeah on screen.
00:45:11
Speaker
And I think that's a good call because I don't really want to see somebody get destroyed by a pipe. um Like, ah you know, that's a bit more graphic than what I'm looking for. So their choice to have it mostly off screen, but implied, I think was, is good.
00:45:24
Speaker
We know what happened. Yeah. But ah I do kind of like that. i just don't, i i think maybe the reason why the ending didn't work for me is because it was such a, in like a,
00:45:37
Speaker
very quick cutaway. Like there wasn't really like a transition to it. It just kind of cuts to black and she's waking up in Jackson with Joel being like, Hey kiddo kind of thing. And so it just felt like, obviously they want you to know that Joel's back next episode. I think it's like, that's literally the only reason is they want you to be like, come back next week. Joel's here.
00:45:56
Speaker
And I think they kind of did that way, but it felt Because I can't remember. think in the game, doesn't it? Isn't it? It cuts to it after this scene. I can't remember. Yeah. So I understand that that's why they're doing it. But it just felt the transition just didn't feel like natural to me.
00:46:14
Speaker
To me, I think it works because they are alluding to the fact that Ellie, this is the first time Ellie is kind of 100% fully accepted the decision that Joel's made. um whereas Nora's trying to remind you like, do you know what he did? And I think this is the first time in her mind. She's like, yeah. And I think in this flashback, we're going to get that scene where Joel talks to her about what actually happened.
00:46:34
Speaker
Yeah. Which I'm very much looking forward to. I haven't wanted to mention any of the flashback stuff when we're doing this because I do want midnight to see the flashback yeah stuff like yeah with virgin eyes. So I, I, I'm, I'm very much looking forward to next episode because those were some of my favorite parts of the game. So I'm very much looking forward to next episode.
00:46:53
Speaker
and obviously, you know, just love seeing Joel back, but yeah, yeah I'm, I'm looking forward to that stuff. Cause I honestly, the thing is, is with other than the whole bigot sandwich kind of Dina crap, the first 10 hours of the last of us part two were on par with last of us part one to me. Like I loved the first 10 hours of this game. And so the stuff that we're seeing so far has been, obviously it's not as good. Like I said, it's not as good as the game, surprisingly, even though I'm not the biggest fan of the game, but,
00:47:21
Speaker
it's they're doing ah decent job and I'm excited to see the stuff that I did like in the first game.
00:47:28
Speaker
Yeah, I will. I will. ah Oh, go ahead, Sean. Like I said, I am enjoying the show. I'm just I just to me, I just reminded from playing the game how much better the game is. Yeah, I kind of do want to go back and finish the game now that I have the pro because it is a gorgeous game. Like it is really good looking on it. So I might have to go back and finish it just because but but yeah, have to start.
00:47:47
Speaker
Yeah, minute you go. I'll have to actually play it. Maybe I'll play it sometime between season two and three of the show. yeah But yeah, I will say, yeah because I have a pro as well. But ah yeah, I do agree. Like they didn't have the smooth transition to the flashback like they would have had in the ah ah the the guitar scene or whatever.
00:48:06
Speaker
That would have been a smooth transition. They probably could have filmed like a super short scene of like Ellie afterwards, like looking kind of like dejected and just looking off into space and then had the flashback like super quick, but it's fine.
00:48:18
Speaker
We're excited to see more Joel. Yeah, very much so. I am looking forward to it. I am very excited to see reaction of people who have not played the game. but Yeah, I'm I'm a I was going to say to you made a good point there is that I think that's why the transition didn't seem natural because it doesn't have her thinking about it. It just cuts to it. So like, yeah, if she had if she'd like kind of got up like out of breath looking at Nora's dead body or something and then it's kind of staring and then it cuts to it. That would have made a lot more sense than the way they yeah they just had to shoot her literally just looking off into space for like a second.
00:48:50
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't sometime after that event. Yeah, yeah you're right. That's what would have made it because i was trying to think like, what would they have done to make it seem more natural? And that that's exactly what they should have done. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, but anyway.
00:49:03
Speaker
right And that was like we said, that's the episode of Last of Us season two, episode five. yeah Should we go should we go around the horn and raid it on the the scale of anchovies to bacon?
00:49:16
Speaker
This is a solid pepperoni for me, I think. Solid pepperoni. I don't know where that lands for you. that i don't make different forever I don't either. I think that's what's great about the scale is it makes no sense. Yeah, I'm going to
00:49:29
Speaker
this a good sausage, pepper, and onion, I think. Sausage, pepper, and onion. Okay. This is buffalo chicken for me. Let us know in the comments, guys. Buffalo chicken for me would be like near the top tier.
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah, that buffalo chicken would be good with some ranch to dip it in. I love this. I was going to say chicken bacon ranch, but that includes bacon, which is the top. So I went with buffalo instead.
00:49:51
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Buffalo pizza is delicious. I love this. Everyone's is different. You know what? I love it. Love this. Let us know in the comments, listeners, what pizza does this score for you? No context, though. Just write the topping. No context. That would make zero sense. Yeah, don't don't even – just write a topping in your comments of what do you think it is, and we'll know.
00:50:09
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we We'll see you and we'll appreciate you listening to the whole episode. Yeah, that's how we'll know if people listen to episodes, if they're listing pizza toppings at the end.
00:50:19
Speaker
Heck yeah. Sorry, John, I interrupted you. No, was going to yeah, but that that was the episode. um Thanks for joining us. We only have two of these left. Should be a Good fun time. Looking forward to future episodes. um Later this week, we will have our, well, a week from today, we will be, um our mainline episode will be released a week from when we're recording this, six days from when you guys hear this.
00:50:44
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Next Monday. Yep, next Monday. And that will be a very fun, special episode. Hodge and I kind of teased a little bit. ah we're not going to tell you the topic, but it is a very fun topic, something that we will love to discuss. So, yeah, hopefully you join us.
00:50:57
Speaker
For sure. yeah I have nothing else to add. This was fun. I enjoyed that the episode was pretty good. so yeah I'm ready to get out here. Bye, everyone. Bye.
00:51:09
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Bye, guys. Have fun. go kills pet Go kill ah infected. don't Don't smoke some spores. and don't know what you guys do. Have fun. Bye. All See you.