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DLC 16. Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Spoilercast
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How is it that a debut game from a studio of 33 people is the most hyped up game of 2025? Join Sean and Hodge as we discuss everything we love about this masterpiece of a game! Who was our favorite character? Did we 100% the game? How much therapy do we need to get over it all?
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Transcript
Introduction and Game Overview
00:00:29
Speaker
Hello, welcome to Games Over Plastic and Agnostic Gamers podcast. I am your host for this week, Hodge, joined by my lovely co-host, Sean Mason. How you doing?
00:00:40
Speaker
For those who come after.
00:00:43
Speaker
Yes, today we are doing I've been wanting to do this episode but basically since. Well, actually, only rolled credits like two days ago but because I was just doing everything on the world.
00:00:54
Speaker
ah But we're doing Claire Obscure Expedition 33, a game I was excited for, but it blew my expectations out of the water. ah But so, yeah, let's just start there.
Impressions and Inspirations
00:01:07
Speaker
Overall impressions, Sean, what did you think? I know you were the one who was a little iffy on this one, not trusting $50 game, first debut studio and all that.
00:01:16
Speaker
So what was your overall impressions? I loved it. I thought i thought it was awesome. It's definitely my game of the year right now. um As of right now. I will see moving forward. But yeah, the game blew me away. i cannot believe that this small team of 33 built this pretty much this amazing, you know, homage to so many great JRPGs like um with the insane voice cast that they got. Yeah.
00:01:44
Speaker
The story is so good. Performances are excellent. Music's insane. um i am really blown away by this game. and it's kind it's not ah you're You're definitely higher on it than I am.
00:01:56
Speaker
It's definitely my game of the year so far. and it's it's in my top thirty It has entered the chat of the top 30 games of all time for me. It was awesome. and I see a lot of the inspiration that these devs...
00:02:09
Speaker
um you know, took from and it's pretty apparent that they're lot of these devs, the team the people that worked in this game are all in like their 30s or late 20s.
00:02:22
Speaker
And they grew up playing a lot of the same, you know, JRPGs that I played when I was younger. And you can totally see that. And I really love it. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's awesome. Like you're saying, I'm probably higher on it than you, but ah it's it's the same thing as like, I was thinking about this as you're saying that. It's like me with Hades. It's like, oh man, it's one of my favorite games of all time. Like, I'm pretty sure i did have it in my top 10. I'll have to go back and look at the list because we're going something fun about that later. But um i was i was like, at the end, then it's one of those where it's like, oh, ah it's one of my favorites of all
Mechanics and Story Elements
00:02:55
Speaker
time. And people are like, yeah, but there's better versions of this out there. You just like that one. And it's like,
00:03:00
Speaker
So it's kind of the same with this where it's like, as you know, I'm not the biggest turn-based guy and all that. I don't play those games very often. So to me, it's like, oh man, this is one of my favorite games of all time. And you and everyone are like, you know, there's way better turn-based games other than this one. But of course...
00:03:15
Speaker
A lot of it is the fact that I love this world and the characters, the story, and all that. So the gameplay isn't what sells this game for me. I just think it's good for what it is because ah yeah i'm not ah I'm not the biggest turn-based guy. So like i got I got the parry and dodge system down ah you know fairly quickly and it and just enjoying... The only thing... Actually, we'll get into like complaints or whatever later, comment or whatever.
00:03:40
Speaker
But ah yeah, overall, I loved it. All the characters were awesome. The lot of twists and turns through this. I was I i actually sold my cousin on playing this game, who he is a very casual gamer. Like he plays Helldivers, Call of Duty, and like he played Starfield. And like, that's really all he doesn't play many games at all. He's not ah Someone like us who is going to deep dive into these super nerdy games like like we do.
00:04:06
Speaker
So he but i was talking to him because he saw that I was playing And he's like, oh, what is that? It's like, I'm probably never going to play that. I heard like turn based or whatever. And I go, dude, honestly, the plot reminds me of Attack on Titan.
00:04:17
Speaker
And he goes, you sold it to me. I'm going to watch it or I'm going to play it because he loves attack on Titan. And that's the vibe I got from this game of like these people living in this world and they don't know the dangers of the outside world. And there's a crew that's put together to go fight them. And the majority of them die, ah which we're going to, obviously this a spoiler cast. We're going to spoil it from the beginning. We're not doing a spoiler free section. This is just a free episode.
00:04:41
Speaker
conversation but yeah it just had so many amazing like like you said homages to other things but the story was just incredible every act it was they completely turned the game on its head basically and i loved i loved this story that's the biggest part of it the gameplay is not the reason why i would call this my game of the year even though the gameplay is a lot of fun but it's the story the world The impressiveness of it, like you said, being 33 people that made this game, that's that's what all sells it to me, and that's why...
00:05:13
Speaker
I'm not sure if this is going to enter the top 10. I got to really think about it, but this is definitely top probably 15 for me of games of all time. I i love love this game.
00:05:24
Speaker
It's one of the few games where I'm not in the room that has but I bought the posters of Gustav. Is it Ciel? Ciel? Ciel, I think, right? Yeah. oh And
Character Dynamics and Emotional Impact
00:05:34
Speaker
Lunay. I have their posters out in my living room because that was my OG party until Gustav Met his maker.
00:05:42
Speaker
And so that and then after that it was Monaco, who was mine. But so actually, let's start there. who Who was your main three? Who did you try? Who did you play with the majority? my main three for act one was Gustav, Malay and Luna. I really did not like.
00:05:59
Speaker
um Cecile, or however you say her name. I think it's Cael, but I could. Cael, I always get it wrong. You know, how many times they say it in the game? i was going to say, well, you also said Mayel wrong.
00:06:09
Speaker
would i What did I say? You said like Malay or something. Oh, did I say Malay? Oh, I'm going say Mayel. Something like that. but Yeah, Mayel. Sorry. Yeah. um Yeah, I really liked all three of their combat.
00:06:23
Speaker
And then once you get to Act 2 and Verso comes in, basically replaces Gustav because Gustav dies, obviously, which I did not see coming at all when I was playing. Oh, no. was that I think that part really just goes to show you that like nobody was safe.
00:06:38
Speaker
It kind of reminded me of ah and remind me a Game of Thrones where like it felt like, oh my gosh, like no character is sacred. Anyone can die. And it's like... anyone can just like, it's it's hard. Like, do I want get attached to these characters?
00:06:52
Speaker
They can be gone in a second. And it kind of came out in nowhere. Like it's like a nice, like, you know, you defeat the, um, the lamp, the lamb and the lamp, the lamp master. And you're like, all right, Oh, it's time to go. We can finally get across the sea. Everything's going to
Favorite Characters and Mechanics
00:07:05
Speaker
be great.
00:07:05
Speaker
Oh, let's throw one last rock. Because, you know, uh, if you're at the camp, the campsites, if you do all, a lot of the optional stuff, you, you see that, um, you know, Gustav's kind of obsessed with rocks, but he really likes throwing rocks and he,
00:07:17
Speaker
He loves, I mean, they even make the um comparison to him, Esquire. they're like, oh, I've never met someone who likes rocks as much as you do.
00:07:30
Speaker
He's like, yeah, I know. and then, like, you know, they're throwing rocks. You want to throw one last rock? He's like, you know what? Fine, we'll throw one last rock. And then they're trying to find the perfect rock. And then you just see in the background.
00:07:41
Speaker
um Renoir approaching. Yeah. Renoir approaching. And you know, like, Oh, that's to happen. And then you just get the. oh Yeah, dude. that Oh my God. Like the fact that, yeah, two, two acts, the prologue and act one both ended in just like the, yeah like I texted my ah cousin. Cause I saw he was on one day or like, it was a few days ago. And I'm like, Hey, how far are you? He goes, I just, I just found all the bodies on the Island after we got to like that after the exhibition. So,
00:08:11
Speaker
The part where he's about to kill himself and Luna says, please don't do it because you'll kill us both because she's sitting next to him. Yeah. Yeah. And ah and I just reply. I'm like that prologue, though. And he goes, he just replies. Amazing.
00:08:22
Speaker
Literally amazing. And I'm like, and I it's one of those things where it's like, I don't want to be like, well, just wait till the end. Act one, because I don't want to people to be like waiting for it. Yeah.
00:08:33
Speaker
Yeah. It's like the same thing. It's like when you tell someone like, oh, man, the twist in that movie was crazy. It's like, well, I don't know. There's a twist. Now I'm expecting it. Like it's I don't consider it a spoiler. Like I know. the joke with LSM as people are always complaining jeans, uh, spoiling stuff. It's like, well, what constitutes a spoiler? That's saying that there's a twist. It's, kind of ruins it a little bit, but it's not technically a spoiler.
00:08:54
Speaker
Yeah. But, uh, yeah. So I never wanted to, to like, obviously in in our discord, I'm just like finished act one with like a cry emoji or something like that. Just like the very, cause you don't really know what that means at the end when it puts out of context, but Yeah, my ah like i said, mine was Monaco, Luna and Sial.
00:09:14
Speaker
I I heard that there was like an OP Myel bill. Yeah, i guess they pat I guess they just patched it too. Yeah, saw it, which sucks because i was I was hoping to use it to beat Simon because that's the only thing I have yet to beat in the game is Simon, which is also stopping me from getting the last journal because you have to get his after you beat him.
00:09:32
Speaker
And I thought it was just the one stage. I beat the first stage and
World-Building and Narrative Insights
00:09:35
Speaker
I was like, hell yeah. But then of course he he starts here. The voice is like, are you going to fail? Are you done with your mission? I was just like, oh no, he's getting back up. And then of course he gets up and he's six times tougher than he was. So i have not beaten Simon.
00:09:48
Speaker
And I am not level 99. Those are the only three achievements I don't have in the game. ah Did you platinum the game? No, because I'm still because I put it on Steam because I got it as a gift. Oh, that's right. um But I just I just started on just I started replaying it on PlayStation probably about a week and a half ago, um about halfway through act two.
00:10:09
Speaker
But I'm really taking my time I'm taking more time with it because on Steam I knew I was in. I'm like, I'm not going to go for every single achievement because I don't really know. Yeah, yeah. Achievements. Um, so on PlayStation, I am going for like every trophy and I'm taking, I'm taking a little bit more time. I'm noticing more things as well.
00:10:23
Speaker
I'm noticing more inspirations, but um you brought those journals from the previous expeditions. I freaking love those. Like that's awesome. oh yeah. It is so cool. And some of them are like lighthearted and funny while others are like much, much darker. Like did, did you get the, um, obviously you got the one, the one with the expedition that focuses like, on like the car, like they're driving the car and they drive, they're getting to an accident. Yeah. And they're like, protect us. It's supposed to be armor.
00:10:47
Speaker
yeah Yeah. It's like funny ones like that. um Yeah. Yeah, or there's like the one where they ah you get there's a journal at like the gestural beach or whatever. and it's just like, I'm going to die on the just like, just like talking about like, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm just going to die here having fun. And yeah, yeah, it was I love those. i The only thing I wish with the journals is I don't know why no game has ever done this since.
00:11:12
Speaker
But I wish there were like Bioshock journals where you pick them up and they just play as you play in game playing. Like every other game since Bioshock, it's you pick it up and you have to sit there and read it or listen to it in the menu. It's like, why can't we just pick these up and move?
00:11:27
Speaker
yeah The worst was Arkham Asylum. Oh, my God. Yeah, it was so bad. Yeah, like I it's it's one of those things like it was the same with like Alan Wake. Like every time you find a page, you have to sit there and read. It's like, can't you just read it out loud while I'm moving? Like you say everything else.
00:11:45
Speaker
I can't. I just listen to it while I'm playing. So I I skipped some of them just because there were a couple that were super long. And so if I if it well, actually, I didn't skip them. I would just read it myself because um'm I usually just I read them all myself anyway.
00:11:59
Speaker
Like I didn't I didn't wait for me to play. Yeah, and on ah if they were shorter, I'd let them say it, but most of the time I read it myself. But yeah, I wasn't huge on Gustav's, or
Expeditions and Exploration Mechanics
00:12:12
Speaker
not Gustav, Verso's combat. I just, like the ranking system, I just didn't think that one was very fun, so I didn't play with him.
00:12:21
Speaker
I think it's a step down from Gustav's. Yeah, I kind of wish I didn't really get into my L's either. I heard like I was here a virtuoso stance of making everything 200 percent. iss like it was cool, but I didn't like that.
00:12:34
Speaker
If you got hit by an enemy, you lost your stance. Like so so you really had to perfect part a part of Perry or a dodge or or else you're going to lose it, which kind of sucked because no one else lost.
00:12:45
Speaker
their powers if they were hit so that's everyone got what i liked about that is everyone kind of had like their own unique kind of like combat thing like yeah i do have it yeah you have like the um like the you don't have like the um like you have like the extra point system that you have to you have to like build up in order for like overcharge and stuff yeah yeah where and then luna you have all the different elements um yeah I actually really like the stance system. ever mind thats It's taken so totally out of um Lost Odyssey. There's a whole like character who does the same thing. It's with the stances. I'm like, all right, this is so perfect. Yeah.
00:13:23
Speaker
And you have to... The problem with... And the difference with Lost Odyssey is like if you get... There's no dodge mechanic in Lost Odyssey. So if you just get hit, like you you lose the stance. Whereas they give you the chance to kind of like keep your stance. Yeah.
00:13:35
Speaker
Yeah, the only thing that they wouldn't let you dodge was if you fought a blight enemy. They would always give put the blight on you, and there's no way to like dodge it, which sucks. cause it's like mean, it was a challenge to get down to one health and have to survive, but eventually, I don't remember who was. don't know you used it. You were able to drop an anti-blight perk, whatever they're called.
00:13:58
Speaker
ah So I had that for the rest of the game because I was tired of getting after that blight enemies became insanely easy because you were no longer health. But yeah,
Prologue and Initial Reactions
00:14:09
Speaker
yeah i i Yeah, I did love that every character had their own ability. Like, Monaco was in my party mostly because I wanted to get all of his all the feet for him.
00:14:19
Speaker
And so I was surprised some of the enemies that you needed to... I had them in my party all the time because there are some bosses that you have to have Monaco in your party to get their foot. Yeah.
00:14:31
Speaker
i ah so I don't know if there's any that aren't repeated. So if you do miss one, i don't know if you use Monaco in your party ever. But i very, risk very rarely.
00:14:42
Speaker
Very, very. rare It's funny because no, go no, no. I was going to it's so funny with me. like I love my JRPGs and turn-based combat. when But when I have my established party and they introduce someone new, it's really difficult for me to change that up.
00:14:57
Speaker
The only game, like RPG series, where I can constantly change party members... and like be fine is Pokemon, which is funny, because like that's like oh yeah and that's like the that's a problem in Pokemon, where people like, oh no, I have my set team, like I can't change.
00:15:10
Speaker
But like ah like it really, um back in Octopath Traveler 1, when I first played it, you need all you need to use and same thing with final fantasy six the at the end of the game you need to use every single party member like no matter even like it splits off into two parties and you have to and like so like one of my parties would always be like was like so under leveled and i always get so wary that now but it's still for some reason once i'm set with my party it's like they introduce someone new i'm like nope they're not joining sorry i'll try and like yeah don't really like them that much even though i know if i use them i'd probably be like oh this is awesome
00:15:45
Speaker
Yeah, I in in a Final Fantasy seven, I was always just I was always cloud Barrett and Tifa every that's all ah the entire game. But I remember when I was trying to get the achievements, I did start swapping and people because you have to get all their powers leveled up. Yeah, ever so.
00:16:00
Speaker
And I actually I like i enjoy having ah Vincent said was the only one I was. I was just like, why? I don't want it. and But ah but ah but thing is, speaking of that kind of though, I like obviously this game pays homage to so much stuff, but I like that they did it right where it's not like you said, how my L's powers are basically like. from lost odyssey or whatever like i like that it's more of an amai like it didn't feel ripped off nothing in the game felt ripped off from not a carbon copy of it yeah exactly um but yeah let's how about uh oh crap what was i gonna get i wanted to lead that into something else and i just forgot what it was um well how about let's just let's just go through the let's hop through the story because obviously this is the biggest part of the game
00:16:48
Speaker
So we start with the prologue of, I love how, like the only reason I knew what was going to happen, like kind of what was going to happen is because I remember reading the synopsis for the game where it's like every year, uh, it goes down an age number and everyone like disappears. I was like, yeah, oh, that's kind of that's
Mystery and Foreshadowing
00:17:04
Speaker
an awesome concept. So, but I love that if you didn't know that, like I watched Locke play, uh, he streamed it cause he lost a bet or something like that. And, uh,
00:17:13
Speaker
I watched him play and it's just like, what are these people talking about? Like, you're going through the the prologue of like, cause everyone's talking about the gommage and you don't really know what it is. Like the only time it even seems like it's like a thing where people die is when you go past like the floors and she's like, there's just less and less people to wear these every year. And it's sad. And so like that talks about how the population is, you know, dwindling.
00:17:35
Speaker
But I love it because, yeah, you're just going through town and it almost seems like a festival that people are yeah ready for. They almost... It's almost like they're like mute to it where it's like, oh, this is like our... ce This is like a new year. It's like our celebration. like we're going to... We it's going to be so bad. So we're going celebrate life, everyone's life right now because we know tomorrow is going to be bad. And then even like...
00:17:57
Speaker
jumping like a little bit forward after that, like right before the expedition leaves, like there's whole, there's a huge party. it's like a sendoff party. And like, they're even lightheartedly joking around there with like, I knew we'd have more tables than exhibition expedition 34. I knew it.
00:18:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, it was just so well done there it's It reminded me, not in terms of... like I mean, kind of in terms of the the setting, but it reminded me of Bioshock as a game where, from the beginning, I was just sucked into it. like there it wasn't like ah It wasn't one of those games it's like, don't worry, after 30 hours, it gets good.
00:18:37
Speaker
like It was one of those where... It's not a slow opening. It's not a slow burn. Yeah. And so, that's I loved that about it, I do remember playing like... when everyone was starting everyone everyone's like, Oh my gosh, you just complete the prologue. And I getting there and just the, that somber music playing while everyone just
Character Relationships and Motivations
00:18:53
Speaker
disappears. And of course i know, I, you know, you made the joke last week of how everyone disappears. And then the last is Sophia. and it's just like, cause cause they're standing in the front of the pier. So they got to have their moment of like, I'm with you or whatever. And,
00:19:06
Speaker
like I did find that funny, but at the same time, it was just so well done. Like with the kids in the gestural mask standing there and everyone disappears around. Like it was just so hauntingly.
00:19:19
Speaker
ah Did you miss the mime the first time you played it? No, I, I, when i saw them on the first time and I went out It is those mimes. It's it's funny. It is. They are like so interesting. They are so French too. It's so funny. yeah um Yeah. And when you fight and when you do fight the mimes, like the music just like changes. It's like upbeat, like Frenchy tune. You know, like what is going on here?
00:19:42
Speaker
And then when you beat them, like you get like the like the outfit of the baguette. Yeah, it's yeah they I think the outfit is called Baguette or whatever. But yeah, it's like all it's a typical the mime shirt, the black and white stripes. And you get the the the hat, whatever it's called. i was going to say fedora, but it's not fedora. Whatever whatever that hat the hat is called. But that's basically what you get for every single mime. It's just a stupid costume or the gestural beach, how you you get the swimsuits.
00:20:09
Speaker
But yeah. But yeah, the prologue, so it starts off just setting the tone like this is going to be a very somber, somber story, which is again where I got Attack on Titan vibes of them being in their town and they're helpless to the paintress changing the number. Like there's nothing they can do.
00:20:27
Speaker
They just have to sit and watch and they see the number go from 34 to 33 and they're just like, oh no. But the one thing that made me think that... I didn't think what was gonna what happened was going to happen, obviously. But it did give me pause a little bit where...
00:20:44
Speaker
was it my L I can't remember someone goes as you're walking towards the Harbor. It was either my L or Sophia or someone who's just like, she seems sad. And when it, when they said that, i was just like, oh i wonder if she's doing this like against her will or something. Like i was trying to think of like, why is the painters doing this? Cause obviously, i mean, you can see, she's sitting there with her head in her hand, with her head in her hands, like with her, you know, bent over the hair covering her. Like you can tell she's not like,
00:21:12
Speaker
an angry God who's just like you and now you shall all die. Yeah. Like you could tell there's some distress there. So I really loved that. And I was like, I wonder if that's going to be something. And then obviously we find out later that it was.
00:21:28
Speaker
But yeah, so we get to the party and then there's the first missable there of you have to get the old key from the girl because that leads to a journal later. But then Miles there and she's obviously the only one who's not 33 years old.
00:21:44
Speaker
She's sitting there like, I don't yeah I'd rather not live here kind of thing. Which is so crazy to me because like she's, um, Gustav says like you have like nine more years, but then you have to do the math. She's only 16 because each year it goes down, but you also age up. So she's, yeah she's only 16 going on this, which is pretty crazy to think about. Um, also in the prologue, I want mention, did you go to one of the trash cans and interact with the trash can?
00:22:09
Speaker
Yeah. It just says like, it's a trash can. Did you do it? If you you know if you do it five times, do you know what happens? No. If you do it a fifth time, it finally happens. A guy's like, shh, I'm trying to hide in here. Maybe the painters won't recognize me.
00:22:21
Speaker
i been here for six months. Dang it. I didn't see this. I wonder why you could click on one. Yeah, I am just so i kept clicking on it. I'm like, there's no way. This is a reason you have this is here.
00:22:32
Speaker
So I clicked on it like a couple times. And then I figured, i'm like oh, maybe you like get something from the festival and then you can go over and interact with it. So then I went over to it and just interacted it with two. I'm like, I'll just do it a couple more times. Then yeah a guy goes stop it like he goes like i've been hiding in here for six months i'm trying to avoid the paintress
00:22:51
Speaker
and it's pretty funny yeah that's awesome i love the i love the little moments like that like in uh when you get to the the gestural village one of the houses you go by is on fire and you go talk to the gestural he's just sitting in the middle of fire and he says this is fine i'm like oh there's the meme yeah Yeah, no, there's a lot of like, there's like a little bit like comedic vibes to it, like comedic little like hints to like lightheartedness.
00:23:14
Speaker
Like even if like when you talk to everybody in um the prologue, like it is so interesting to get everyone's different perspectives on things too. Like to the point where you, you can infer like Sophie and Gustav's relationship, like their exes, they're not currently together, which is,
00:23:33
Speaker
Makes it even like kind of like, oh, that's interesting i think that she wants to be with him like in her like final moments. And you you kind of infer that Sophie didn't want to have children when Gustav did. And that's why they kind of broke up.
00:23:45
Speaker
And it's really, if you start thinking about it, like from Sophie's perspective, it's like, why would you want to bring children into this world? Because yeah you're going to die soon. They're not going to see you grow up. And then each year they're just going to, it's going to get like, the population is going to go down
Realism and Nostalgia in Expeditions
00:24:00
Speaker
and down. And then eventually it's going to get to the point where like there's no one left.
00:24:04
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. So it's really interesting to think about. And then some people are like for the expedition and some people aren't. And then I forget which character it is. One of them even says to Gustav, she it's like she was originally going to go on the expedition. And then she like kind of like changed her mind and backed out.
00:24:18
Speaker
And she says, like, I think it's braver to live my final year here. going to it's like you can infer that she's trying to say, like, it's it's braver for me to live here for the year. No, I'm going to die.
00:24:29
Speaker
Then go on. on the Yeah. Yeah, because it's um because to them, they see it as a waste time. All those people just go out and get themselves killed. So it's like, why not spend your final year with your loved ones instead of spending your final year getting yourself killed?
00:24:42
Speaker
like Yeah. So, i yeah, I like that because it's it's that whole thing of, yeah, it's like people, there's been, what, 60 expeditions before them. It's like, why do you think you're going to... Yes. It's like, why do you think you're going to be the ones who do it? Yeah.
00:25:00
Speaker
67 people, no one's were ever returned. Like, you're not going to do it kind of thing. So, i yeah, that I love that because it's it's a real thing. it's It's how it would be in real life that there'd be some people who's like, I'm going to do everything I can to live. And then there's some people are like, it's out of our control. There's no point in fighting. and And honestly, there's like real no right answer. Like, there's no, it's all a case by case basis.
00:25:21
Speaker
um Yeah. But yeah, we talked about how like before the expedition, all the expeditions are like, so ready to go. They're like, so on board. Like, yeah, we're going to do this. We're going to, this is going to be us. It's going to be our time. And such a drastic change when you get to that Island.
00:25:36
Speaker
And like, yeah, go on. Like, well, no, I was going to say, it's like, yeah, you could, it's what's where again, where I kind of got the attack on Titan vibes, where it's like this whole crew who's been training and getting ready for this. And they're all immediately eviscerated. Like, Yeah.
00:25:53
Speaker
It was, it was so, and it was, ah it was a really cool thing. Like they didn't get there and it was just like Nevrons. It was, there was a guy there in an expedition uniform. You're like, who the hell is this guy? Well, that guy has white hair Yeah. Yeah. The one guy's like, you're so old. How are you old? Like, kind of like, how does your five survive the garage? And he just beheads the leader immediately. And that's when you're like, Oh, what? This is that I didn't realize how many people were on the expedition though. Cause they don't really have a lot. Yeah.
00:26:21
Speaker
They, yeah. They don't ever really show it. It's just like, which is like how, you how many bodies you find in the, on the map. Which is even funnier to think about that there's that many for this one. Think about the like expedition, like, i don't know, like 50.
00:26:36
Speaker
Because each one, you're you're probably going to think there's probably more people on that because there's because it's older and older. There's probably more people. So it' just It's interesting to think about how some expeditions got further and some didn't.
00:26:47
Speaker
Also, this is the first expedition where they they went to... It's the it second expedition where they go to the beach area. they um They mentioned that, like, oh, this is the second time we're going to the beach area to start out. I think it was Expedition i think it was expedition Zero, which they actually make a joke about how like they named the first one Zero and it should have been called Zero.
00:27:08
Speaker
it should have been like 100 whatever. Yeah. Yeah. um But yeah, you know right away. And then you even hear Gustav's like, f the x he says like f the expedition. yeah Immediately just change.
00:27:20
Speaker
Immediately. He just sees everyone get slaughtered, so he goes to to kill himself. And obviously, Lunay saves him. And ah yeah, that's when we obviously hop into Act 1.
00:27:31
Speaker
act one And I liked it because it's it's funny because when after you get off of or out of the um out of that forest that you start out in, you know you get to the open world for the first time.
00:27:45
Speaker
And I saw how far up the painters was. And I was like, how big is this freaking map? Because there was all these areas like right next to you that you walk to. So I thought my whole map was gonna be like that. But obviously later on, it gets open. and You fly so or or swim. So it's It's separated.
00:28:01
Speaker
They're way more separated. And all that that little bottom island is a bunch of stuff congested together. But later on, it's way split up, thankfully, because i was like, if I had to clear if this is like an Assassin's Creed map where there's something every two so every two feet, I'm going to lose my mind.
00:28:15
Speaker
But this the open world aspect is such like is such, is so JRP, is so like SNES, PS1, JRPG vibe, where like, you're out on this giant map, and you're not really walking that much, but like in game, like you like in your head, you're like, oh my god we're walking probably like 50 miles here, we're in game, like for like two minutes.
00:28:38
Speaker
And so love like setting camp and like you're setting camp and you, you know, you talk your team, you talk to your, your party members and even like, you can like write down like for the future exhibitions, you can journal and everything. Like I love that whole, like, it's just so, it's such a comfortable feeling for me. Cause it's like, it's such my favorite type of game.
Immersion and World Environment
00:29:00
Speaker
And just love it. And it's such an evolution. It really, I love the fact that it's not like random encounters. You can see the enemies on the field and like you can go and like you can get the first strike on them.
00:29:11
Speaker
It's really all like they did a really good job with the open world site, the um open world aspect. And it's not like they wait a lot of games like this. though The open world aspect, they like wait like, you know, like 20, 25 hours before you actually get to it.
00:29:24
Speaker
Whereas this is like first couple hours, you're thrown right into it. Yeah. Yeah. I, yeah, I, that's, ah I'd love that about it is the no random encounter. Cause it was nice. Cause I mean, I played on if, you know, everyone's gonna make fun of me, but I played on story mode. Cause that's what I play every game on now. Cause I just like, I like enjoying the story and not having to worry about constantly dying.
00:29:45
Speaker
Um, but, I love that you could avoid a boss or not a a boss, but like, ah ah cause obviously obviously the boss was just blocking the way, but you could avoid enemies if you didn't feel like fighting. Like later on in the game, there was, um there was a Renoir's drafts or whatever that ne that area and ah those enemies were all really strong and so eventually started kind of running past them like it's not that they were difficult it's just that they were bullet sponges and I'm like I don't want to fight these enemies for like literally 20 minutes it's gonna take a really long time
00:30:20
Speaker
Because there were there were a couple bosses that literally took me over an hour. like i was i put i i checked yesterday. I put 45 hours into this game, and I'm three achievements shy of finishing it.
00:30:31
Speaker
ah And, of course, the last one that I would have had to get is get to level 99, and it's like $10 experience per level or whatever so it would take a long time to get to level 99 but uh yeah it's just me sitting there there was a couple bosses yeah that took like over an hour and i'm just like this is i like i don't want to fight something like and especially when some of them are like normal enemies that take you 20 minutes i'm like i don't want to do that so it was nice that you're able to to skip over a lot of them but
00:31:03
Speaker
ah Yeah, I guess the act one, there's not. Obviously, you meet the gestals and all that There's not like ah I love the gestals. I freaking love. They're so funny. Yeah, ba they're like, they're so simple minded, too.
00:31:15
Speaker
Yeah, they they remind me kind of of Moogles like they're like, Moogles are smarter, obviously. But but yeah, they're just like the goofy. Yeah, they're they're all like, it well, it was so funny because there were a few times I kind of felt bad for him because Milo would be like, oh, he's dumb, must be a gestural. I'm like, man, just talking down these people. What are you doing? in front of them, too. Yeah.
00:31:41
Speaker
yeah Oh, actually, there was one thing before they i think it's before they meet the gestuals. Yeah, because miles with them when they meet them ah is you find the manner. I expected actually there to be more with the manner.
00:31:53
Speaker
i thought there would be like an achievement for opening all the doors or something, which there isn't. yeah Obviously, to open them, they there's some that come with a. luminos or whatever or uh uh journals so i guess there is some point to it but i assumed there'd be like open yeah especially when you first go in and you see like every door is locked and you're like all right well obviously we're gonna have to come back here and it's gonna be like insane like each each room is gonna have a significant impact on the party or the story and it's like no not really like yeah when you first the first time you can go back there is when you you go to the gestural village and you um
00:32:31
Speaker
after the tournament, you go, you like you can go in, you can go in through like another way. And like, you're in like almost like a kitchen area and you're like rotating pans and you're rotating things. And I'm like, and then a sudden you're in the manor again. And I'm like, well, how, like, what is that? Like nothing. I was thinking, I'm like, well how am I here again?
00:32:49
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I did like that. It was kind of and and for actually, though, i was kind of one thing that bummed me out a little bit is I thought it was going to become like a fast travel system because all through the doors.
00:33:01
Speaker
Yeah, but then no, it's just you open a room and then you have to exit through the main door and you're back to where
Act One Recap and Plot Twists
00:33:06
Speaker
you were. It's like, oh, yeah, was kind of. Cause yeah, some of them, like, yeah, there was one, there was that one with the pots, uh, in the, in the manor, there's the one where you flip the four things in the dining room and there's like a secret door. Like I expected them to all have puzzles and stuff, but most of them are literally just, you go there, you pick it up and you leave like, Oh, that was, that was kind of lame. But obviously when you get to the man and you meet the curator who you don't know who he is or what he's doing and, but he's looking out for my L. So you're kind of like, huh?
00:33:37
Speaker
that That's kind of where I got the idea. Why is he looking out for her? How? She just got here. All a sudden, he's all synonymous looking out for her.
00:33:48
Speaker
um yeah Instantly, right away, from that point on, I'm like, okay, may somehow she's linked to all of this. like There's something going on with her. and then you like Especially when you think about her backstory, she's orphaned at three. She doesn't know anything about anything beforehand.
00:34:05
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And then when the first time you go to camp and everyone freezes and Renoir and um oh Alicia. Yeah, they show up and they're like, you're this is your chance to leave. Do it. And or and we'll spare your for like kind of thing. We'll spare your friends and all that. And she's obviously says no.
00:34:25
Speaker
But the second they showed up and Alicia was short, I was like, that's she's related to my L somehow. Yeah. I mean, even look alike. Yeah, I'm like, they're they're the same size. They both have long hair. Hers is just white where miles is red. And I'm like, they're definitely related somehow. I didn't think they'd be the like, literally the same person. But yeah, i was like, yeah, they're something about them. They're obviously related. And then whats my having the visions.
00:34:51
Speaker
Yeah, my initial thought was that it was like some type of clone. Like, this is gonna be a clone. It was kind of. a Yeah. Yeah. That's that's good I mean, obviously, I had no idea it was going to be the whole painting thing of. the Yeah. None of them are literally real. But ah so, yeah, all that happens. And then we get to the end of act one. Unless is there anything else in act one we want to talk about? I mean, more of it's just kind of like you're exploring the world. You learn the mechanics. You're learning. I mean, you get you meet at SGA.
00:35:21
Speaker
Yeah. Meet SGA. You get Sial when you go to the gestural arena. But that arena, that tournament was so much easier than thought. I was so hyped up. I'm like, oh, it's going to a great tournament.
00:35:34
Speaker
Love this. and i i expected it so like yeah I expected it to be like um like Kingdom Hearts where it's like, there's another tournament being held at the Coliseum. I expected it to be like that where throughout the game there'd be they'd add more and more. and and But no, it's just the three. You fight the three gestrals and you're done. You're like, oh. I love the secret pass where they give you two.
00:35:56
Speaker
And then you go there and he's like, oh yeah, there was no password. There was no password. And then Gustav's like, I'm sorry. it as lot Say it as loud as you can. And he hurts the gestural feelings by yelling at him. And then he's like super and then that yeah as leaving, he yells back. He's like, yeah I really am sorry.
00:36:13
Speaker
Yeah, that one what that that was hilarious. So speaking of SGA, it gave me when I first like saw like the appearance of them, it gave me Avatar The Last Airbender vibes.
00:36:28
Speaker
Like, yeah, I can see that. Some of like some of like the creatures in there, um like. I can't remember in Avatar, but it was like, you know, remember the library episode? That's a pretty iconic episode. like they lose it's It's been a while. I haven't watched Avatar in a few years. Well, they like lose Appa there. And it reminded me of like the librarian person.
00:36:45
Speaker
And it reminded me of the person you're not supposed to look at in the face. And like the, I don't even know, the spirit realm or I haven't watched Avatar in a while, but it gave me Avatar The Last Airbender vibe. So I'm going to say nice.
00:36:58
Speaker
and It looks like, what it was like an owl at the library? Yeah, something like that. I don't know. It just gave me those vibes. Yeah. Yeah. No, I... Yeah. Well, I mean, it was also the... the There was so much variance in all the worlds. Like the one that's like you're underwater, but you're not technically underwater. yeah Like the the gestural forest. And then there's like the battlefield and all like every level had its own look. And it was, I loved it that they were able to do that. And with the same with it, it was the, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, heartless and kingdom hearts where it's like every level introduces kind of a new enemy also. And then they're just, they kind of just appear later on. Also just because they don't want to one off them. But yeah, I i love. um But yeah, I loved the the world. Obviously, I can't say that enough. But yeah, then we get to the end of act one.
00:37:51
Speaker
And obviously the big moment happens of you defeat the Lamp Master. And they're like all right, we're ready to set sail. And yeah, like you said, Gustav picks up one last rock. And Renoir just I don't know if I was in denial or what. But I was just sitting there like.
00:38:09
Speaker
is he going to get up? Like, is she going to save him somehow? Like, I'm like, there's no way. Cause like it, that's the start the act. Moon a season from killing himself. So you think like, Oh, he's going to have this motivation. He's going to get to the end of to, you know, and he's writing in the journal for his apprentices. Like there's no way they're going to do this. And then Nope, he's dead.
00:38:29
Speaker
And then, uh, The one thing that did kind of bum me out is later in the game. Obviously, they do the whole thing of like, oh, everyone can return. I was like, oh, that kind of takes away the impact. yeah Yeah, the whole Marvel thing. It's like it's like the Marvel family.
Emotional Impact and Character Development
00:38:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But but at the moment I was just like, what? they like And then at the in act two, when versus on the team, he's like, I know a place where we can bury him. And that is such a beautiful scene of where she takes the arm, buries it at the grave. and Yeah.
00:38:57
Speaker
Like, oh man, that just so many great moments in this game. ah Oh, the other thing ah from the first act, when you find the flower on the ground and any, you know, picks it.
00:39:10
Speaker
Thanks back to Sophie. Yeah. And the so when that happened, I was like, part of me was like, do these people turn into Nevrons when they're gommaged or something? Like, i was like, maybe that's Sophie's like Nevron or something. Like, that's what I was trying to think of because even Luna makes the comments like it didn't attack until you took picks the flower. And so I was like trying to figure out like, are these people that were like, you know, that are turning into Nevrons? But obviously that was never came to pass, but.
00:39:38
Speaker
and thats That was kind of my thought. like I love it because it's one of those games where it's like not everything is as it seems kind of thing. And so I loved that kind of stuff. But... Uh, yeah. In act two, we go to the battlefield and all that. And then yeah can i say one more thing about Versa?
00:39:55
Speaker
I love his inspiration for helping them. Like they're like, why are you here? Like, why are you going to help us? And he's like, well, I'm tired. Like he's been alive for so like so long. He's like, I'm um tired of seeing loved ones I love die.
00:40:07
Speaker
Yeah. And it's the complete contrast to, um, Renoir, like complete contrast where he just wants to live. He's so selfish, wants to live forever. It's like complete contrast.
00:40:20
Speaker
Yeah, even though I guess that's a different that that's the part that confused me as I was like, because when he dies, obviously there's the other Renoir and you're like, wait, so was he actually trying to like, was that the painting version who wanted to live forever? Or was that Renoir himself? Who's like wanting him to live forever? Like, yeah, I was confused by that part. But yeah,
00:40:39
Speaker
Yeah. So then act two is that that's when we meet Monaco and that's we. Yeah. Because then we defeat the axons to get to the paint. Which is where I thought the game was ending, because i was like, it's kind of weird that a game only has two axes. There's three acts in something. And then because then once you beat the paint, there's the epilogue. So I thought like, oh, we're we're done.
00:41:00
Speaker
But then, of course, this also has just the amazing ending of and of an act where you think like, oh, we get back. We we saved the day. Mr. Krabs, we saved the town.
00:41:12
Speaker
and Then you find out, nope, the paintress was not a bad guy. And it's just that she was losing her power every year and could only have the power to save up to this age every year. So she had to make the sacrifice of getting rid of the oldest every single year. And when they killed the paintress, Renoir is unleashed and able to wipe out everyone like he wanted to. And everyone dies.
00:41:39
Speaker
Except for Verso. Except for Verso and that. All right. So that conf confused me. Also, did the did that version of Mile disappear or did she turn into the gray hair one?
00:41:49
Speaker
Like, ah can I can't. That's it. It did get a little confusing at the end with the the fake, like the the real version and then like the the painted, version like the fake version. yeah It's a ah little difficult to follow.
00:42:02
Speaker
And I will be interested to see when I get there. I'm here since I'm replaying it right now. I'm able to pick up on things that i didn't pick up on. so I am picking up on things, like I said, that I didn't see. and I wonder if I'll be able to follow it a little bit more clearly.
00:42:15
Speaker
um but yeah It's funny that um they could they the the canvas version, basically the canvas. yeah yeah um yeah know it is I didn't actually didn't see it coming where the paintress was like, oh I'm doing this for like I need to do this going to basically die. I really didn't see that coming.
00:42:35
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't see it in the sense of even though when they killed her and were on their way back to the island, I'm like, something bad happened. Like, they weren't supposed to do that. Something... Like, I didn't know that was going to happen. up I didn't think the Infinity War, fucking everyone being Thanos-nats, was going to happen. But I did not...
00:42:52
Speaker
I did see, like like I said, at the start of the game when they're like she looks sad. I was like, she has to be doing something against her will or she doesn't want to be doing... Like, something something's going on. But I didn't obviously know what it was.
00:43:03
Speaker
But then that's where... It very changed its like it changed its vibe a little bit at that point, because then it does become the miles suddenly like she's a painter. So she's suddenly liked this superpowered like powered, like what's the word looking for, where she knows all like she's this all like all knowing character all because she just randomly gets her memory back. So she knows who she is again. She's an omniscient character. Omniscient.
00:43:32
Speaker
Yeah, yeah i and yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah. And so at that point, I was like, i was like, I still liked it, but I was kind of feeling a little a like, as it is that no really what we're going to kind now? She's like the know all person. And but ah and then it it did start feeling a little weak where she's able to bring back the party, obviously, because you need your party back. It's not just going to be those two for the rest of the game.
00:43:55
Speaker
but then they do the whole, like, I, we, I guess didn't talk about the thing I love about the camp was you got to spend time with each person and increase your friendship and do like
Game Mechanics and Challenges
00:44:05
Speaker
these little cut scenes. And of course, all the style is that they keep banging, but, uh, they do it one last time where they're like, Oh, like Verso, I guess doesn't take the hint. He's like, Oh, let's do it one more time. And she's like, well, now that I know my husband can come back, I don't really want to keep doing this.
00:44:21
Speaker
And even then you do it one more time anyway, just, which is weird. But, ah So it it did feel a little bit like, oh, so no one's really dead kind of thing. And oh, people. got So it did. It didn't really even like matter. Yeah. So it undoes the impact a little bit.
00:44:39
Speaker
It's not nothing's final anymore. But at the same time, it is cool. Like we get we might get see Gustav again, which is awesome, because obviously his death was horrific. But ah so, yeah, we start that act with then it's basically just back to you go back to the game and It's pretty much you just go straight to don't you just straight to Lumiere from there? Obviously, I I traveled the world for, you know, 15 more hours, so I didn't I didn't. get But is it right after that is when you can go to Lumiere and finish it? I can't even remember.
00:45:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's right after that. You can go to Lumiere and finish it. And yeah.
00:45:15
Speaker
Yeah, because you you gain the ability to fly, which is but which basically opens the rest of the map to you. other than's like getting the airship It's like getting the airship in Final Fantasy. Yeah, basically. Yeah, and then ah you get the ability to swim underwater. can't remember how you get that ability, but you get that eventually, which...
00:45:32
Speaker
Which is nice because all it is is you literally pick up luminos and like, is that what they're called? Luminos? Yeah. Yeah. And all each one in the ocean just has five luminos. So you're like, oh, there, I can power out my people. So I actually, with those, I don't know how you did it. I basically, for every like four I put on my main three, I put one on ah hanna Verso and my L. So ah my big three had like 150 each and those two had like 80.
00:46:02
Speaker
yeah it So I was deck decking them out. Actually, I think they ended up getting over 200 each because you find so many. But did you I forgot about this. When you go through the world, did you save all those Nevrons? The white ones are like help.
00:46:18
Speaker
I'm doing it right now. Currently on Steam. I I say if ah if I like came across them, I'd save them. But um right now I'm making a conscious effort to do it.
00:46:30
Speaker
yeah um yeah cause it's it like a huge pat Is there like a huge payoff to it? Yes. yeah yeah the You do not want to... It gives you the ah the option to attack them or leave. You always want to leave.
00:46:43
Speaker
I'll just say that. you You will always want to leave them. ah There is one. i It's not really spoiling it, but there is one where you're not given the option. You have to fight it, but it's part of its story, so you'll you'll see when you get to it. But Uh, yeah, do not, do not attack any of them.
00:47:01
Speaker
Uh, you will get a fantastic reward for not doing so. It's kind of like, uh, it's kind of like Bioshock in that sense of save those little sisters. Don't, don't kill. Also, speaking of optional fighting, how about anytime you, um, go to like ah like a, like vendor or a merchant, you can fight them for like the extra.
00:47:20
Speaker
That was so cool. I love that. Yeah, do you fight him for an extra, like, weapon or whatever. yeah Sometimes it was a... It was a... Pictou or something. Yeah, it was... It was... I loved it. You know, one of them in... a I don't know if you fought this one in ah Renoir's drafts. He has two enemies with him, and they're really tough. yeah And so... Yeah, yeah they they are a lot of... I...
00:47:43
Speaker
i struggle with that a little bit i played on i played on the hardest difficulty at first oh sometimes sometimes i would move it down but then on this on my play position playthrough i'm playing on the hardest i'm not changing it at all but again i really love like i love the whole turn-based combat aspect i love perfecting the dodging the parrying i love studying the enemies and like some of them i have it down to a t where i can just like perfect dodge perfect dodge parry parry perfect perfect other ones i'm still like oh i really need to learn this That's how I am with Simon. who
00:48:15
Speaker
His parries are so difficult. Like, he murders me. But did you... It's going to make it that much... Oh, no. Oh, no, go. I would say it's going to make it that much more satisfying when you finally... I know. Yeah. i' i'm so I'm really debating... I'm like... Because I'm going to pick... So, I played this on Game Pass because, obviously, it's there.
00:48:34
Speaker
But I love this game so much. I am going to buy it because I think this game deserves to support the devs. I mean, they've already sold three million copies. I think they showed which is awesome. yeah I think it's three. I know they've already made they've already made their money back. I know that. Awesome.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. But I'm going to buy it on PlayStation and I think I will definitely go for the ah the platinum for it. So I will make the effort. But with just achievements, it's like I'm so close. so I feel like I should. But Simon is so freaking difficult. And when you die, of course, you have to play both phases again. so I'm like, yeah, goddamn. So I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to, but.
00:49:17
Speaker
andline a station It reminds me of the optional boss the end of Octopath 2 where there's multiple, multiple phases. And if you like fail in like the last phase, you have to go back and do the beginning.
00:49:28
Speaker
And like at the beginning, you you kind of like the way you're doing it, like you make one mistake. you know The whole fight's ruined. like I've already screwed up everything. There's no recovering from this. Yeah, did that did you did you fight Clea?
00:49:41
Speaker
Yes. So her fight, if you get hit by any attack, she she heals over half a million of her health. And you're like, oh my god. So so annoying you have to basically hit her three to one to not have her gain all of her health back. Before, when I finally started landing, like... um like perfecting, like where I can dodge and that it took me like maybe nine or ten times to finally like get the timing down where I could consistently do it.
00:50:10
Speaker
Yeah, I've yeah, for the first couple of minutes, I was definitely letting her basically heal back to full. But eventually it did get to the point I think where only let like one or two attacks hit for the rest of the thing. So i I killed her pretty quickly, but.
Narrative Depth and Storytelling
00:50:22
Speaker
ah that So, if you you haven't played with Monaco much, I love his powers because... Well, I've always been... i love elemental attacks, so that's why I also love Lunay, because I love the finding the weaknesses where... Like, Gustav, is he has light, but he's also mostly just physical attacks where... I mean, Mael does have fire and stuff attacks, but I love...
00:50:45
Speaker
Like, Lunay has her her one power. It only costs four ah AP, but you have to have the correct stains. and Oh, yeah, and then you absorb all the stains, and then you do, like, multiple attacks. freaking love that. it's saying It's called, like, Elemental Fury or something. I can't remember it was, but, yeah. I can't believe it only...
00:51:02
Speaker
I cannot believe it only costs it only costs four. like i yeah it's It's purely because you had to have the stains right. That's like the only reason. like You're rewarded for having the correct stains. Yeah, it's... it's Yeah, Lunay is probably my favorite. If not, I love Sael just because i was so confused on how to use her techniques for so long, like what the foretell and all that was. I was like, I don't... But eventually, it just kind of got to the point. I did figure it out eventually, but...
00:51:28
Speaker
With most characters, it was just like, when you open their attacks, just select the one with the gold text, because that means that is going to be the one that's that's used best. ah So i I ended up doing that most of the time. but Yeah, i I love all that stuff. But ah yeah, so that final act.
00:51:45
Speaker
Yeah, that's basically where once I had fly, I just cruised the the world. I did everything. It's so funny. Some of those bosses that are in the world, like I the when you're early on, like you it's like in Final Fantasy when you go under in the sub and there's a what's called swimming around down there.
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah. can't think of what it's called. The weapon? Yeah, the weapon. Yeah, down there underwater. And you get there and it murders you in one attack. You're like, oh, I'm not supposed to touch this. need to come back here later. Yeah, and there was both this world even this game, if you go to an area that you are severely underleveled, they'll say like, this is like,
00:52:22
Speaker
It says danger. Yeah. Yes, it it's very dangerous, which is again, that's taken right out of like a lot of modern day JRPGs do that. Yeah, i I appreciate because I didn't know that it was one of those things where once you hit a certain level, it goes away because I didn't obviously I don't play JRPGs that much, so i didn't realize that. But it was cool that eventually I did see that because I went back to one and it didn't say danger anymore. i was like, oh, so I guess I'm like, it lets you know. And so then Even though me playing at story mode and once you get the part the ah parry down, you could really beat anything. You don't really... like I did beat one boss underleveled and that was the... What was it called? The one that's like flying up in the sky, like the snake thing.
00:53:02
Speaker
ah that absorbs your AP. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I fought him underleveled, but it's really just a parry. That's all you have to do. And obviously, all of my luminous and picked those were ah basically perfect. Perry gets AP, ah the one that doubles your AP for everything you get. So I was getting my AP back immediately, ah which was nice because i I started every with my characters every single ah turn. I almost Almost every single turn I started with nine every single time. So it was really nice being able to to have access to any attack I wanted because a lot of my attacks I did have that were like seven, eight, nine AP were required. But with those skills, it was really simple, but...
00:53:49
Speaker
Yeah, so ah I guess we could just, we'll finish the plot and then we can go back into other stuff. and So yeah, one thing we should probably just mention real quick is that when we're in Lumiere, you do find out that um ah Renoir and the paintress are like together. They're married.
00:54:06
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, that is, and it's I love it because when you beat the paintress, like Verso's actually sad about like, he holds her as she dies and all that. and but yeah, yeah.
00:54:19
Speaker
that's that's the part where it started getting confusing for me because i feel like not that it was rushed but it was very quick of just like oh we're a family we're the paintresses we're the ones in charge of this and it's just like what what's going on like eight because the epilogue after uh is it right after act two the epilogue is where you play as my l and you're out in the real world and you find out that's why you find out she's in the fire her throat's burned she can't speak she's missing an eye on all that stuff. She's, she's the, the gray haired girl.
00:54:50
Speaker
And ah yeah yeah, then all of a sudden you meet Clea, who was like really never mentioned before. Like, she's just all of a sudden there. you're like, who is this? And yeah, then it's like, Oh, mom and dad are in the painting right And they're kind of sitting there just sitting in front of the painting. You're like,
00:55:05
Speaker
what is going on here? But yeah, that's that mile kind of becomes the key to everything type thing. But yeah, I mean, she even like Alicia even becomes or Alicia even becomes my L like within. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:55:20
Speaker
ah So yeah, we get to the lo go back to Lumiere and I love it when she does the It feels so kind of Lord of the Rings-y, but it feels so cool where it's like she resurrects the dead expeditioners and they she had the army of dead expeditioners who come back to Lumiere to help fight and you're running through the battlefield and you see them all fighting while you're trying to run through to get to Renoir. Yeah, reir very much Lord of the Rings, yeah.
00:55:47
Speaker
Yeah, you fight some on the way, obviously, and stuff like that. And yeah, then you get you finally get up there. And ah I think I feel like the one like the horse thing that has the ball on its back. I think they're called creations.
00:55:59
Speaker
I feel like that was. it Yeah, that was supposed to be like it plot wise. I think that's the first time you meet one. And it's supposed to be like this deadly enemy. But I'd fought so many of them in the side levels that it was it was nothing to me. It's one of those things that like if you do everything beforehand, it's like.
00:56:14
Speaker
this is not that like you finally you finally get to like a big story but and you're like this is not that bad this is nothing compared to what i've already thought oh dude when i uh there's a side mission i don't know did you do the one where you climb and not it's not the endless tower the the crows where uh you finally put alicia to rest yeah when when i fought her i i well i she what my ass the first time actually because i was playing as my al who i hadn't played with in a while But when I lost, I just equipped all of the solo pictos that basically make you unstoppable if you're playing solo.
00:56:48
Speaker
And I killed her in literally two hits. Like I, I whooped Alicia almost immediately because of all like the, the attachments you can have on, uh,
00:56:59
Speaker
on my L or basically on any solo fight. So it is funny. It's like the thing of, it's supposed to be this difficult thing, but you're low. And I was probably level 70 something by then. So it's like, you basically walk through it at that point where like, if you just do mainline it, you, you'd probably be like level 30 or 40 when you finish the game. But since I was playing, I was in the eighties when I,
00:57:20
Speaker
actually finished the game so i like renoir i beat him almost immediately i destroyed him well i mean compared to some of the optional stuff he's like nothing like you yeah well i love that about jrpgs in general it's like sometimes like in kingdom hearts there's like uh the the clock tower the phantom and there's uh the one in kurtzisa yeah Like there's those and Sephiroth, obviously like the, the side bosses are always more difficult than the actual final
Tragic Endings and Player Choices
00:57:51
Speaker
bosses.
00:57:51
Speaker
That's so JRPG. I love it. But ah yeah, so I beat Renoir pretty easily. And then, Is it the big right after that is when you its when it ends and you do the final one?
00:58:03
Speaker
Yeah, we get into the beat we get to not very that we get to the choice. The um big conflict between Verso and Alicia. Yeah, so ah before we get to that, actually Chris DM'd me because I asked for i forgot to ask for questions from everyone before we did this, so that's my mistake. So Chris DM'd me and he goes, who did you pick, Maiel or Verso?
00:58:23
Speaker
Well, I was about to ask you. Yeah, so that's the that's his question to pose to us. I picked Mael. Okay, so I picked Verso. Okay. I actually did watch the Verso online later because I wanted to know.
00:58:35
Speaker
but I'm going to pick i'm goingnna pick yeah i'm andnna like the other one on this playthrough. Yeah, that's what i that's what I'll do next time also. but yeah ah I was going to New Game Plus, but I am almost done with it, and I wouldn't really gain much by doing it again, so I'm probably not going to do New game plus it. But um yeah, so Maelle's ending.
00:58:53
Speaker
You get to pick as You fight as her and you beat Verso for obviously. Hopefully if you're listening to this, you played it so you understand this is happening. i hope But no one's listening to this, letting the stuff get spoiled. So you beat Renoir and you find out basically that Uh, my L is almost killing herself by being there.
00:59:13
Speaker
And it's like, it's detrimental to people to be in the paintings for so long, but my L has the mindset. So Verso's mindset is this painting is the last of his soul. Cause Verso is my L's brother who died in real life in the fire. My L survived and was, uh, you know, everything after her face burned, lost her eye and all that.
00:59:35
Speaker
And, um, So Verso's thought is, I'm tired. I don't want to do this anymore. You need to let me go to like be put to rest. And my L's mindset is, i don't have a life outside of this painting. I feel more alive in here than I ever would out in a real world where I merely exist.
00:59:54
Speaker
And everyone in here deserves to live because if Verso chooses the painting, which is the entire world goes away. And so you really have to make this thing of like, it's almost seems like my elves being selfish because she wants herself to live where Verso is also being selfish because he wants everyone to die so he can rest.
01:00:14
Speaker
And so there's neither ending is really technically like the good ending. They're both. They're pretty much. all yeah Very. They both have the reasonings, but they're both bad in a way.
01:00:26
Speaker
So I actually really loved that that need that. It wasn't good ending or bad ending. it was just like, it's a double-edged sword to pick your poison kind of thing. And so Myel's ending, did you watch it or do you have you not seen it? I've not seen it, no. But, um...
01:00:41
Speaker
I don't really. You can tell me. It's not that big of deal. Yeah. So, I mean, you'll obviously you'll see it. it's It's better when you watch it, obviously. But so if my L wins, ah you kill Verso and he kind of does he fades off into, you know, he gets gamaged and he fades away and she leaves the his body, which is the kid there to paint.
01:01:00
Speaker
And it cuts to your back in Lumiere. Everyone is attending a concert, which is actually Verso. He's older and he's a obviously, you know, you find out through the game he plays piano.
01:01:13
Speaker
And so they're all everyone's back. You see Gustav and Sophia holding hands coming into the concert. Silas sitting there with her husband and Miles sitting there all happy, like, oh, we're all together again. And Gustav takes the stage.
01:01:27
Speaker
He stares kind of... He doesn't look happy. He's on stage and he's just kind of staring at the at the piano for like 30 seconds. And then he starts playing and everyone's you know enjoying the concert and it cuts to Maelle and you see her face fading away. like it So it shows that she's happy in this world but it is killing her. like You see her face...
01:01:47
Speaker
like great like Kind of how ah Cleo looked where her face is kind of like kind of gommaging, but it's still there. And so that's how you see my L and then it ends. And so it's the it's the thing of it's a happy ending.
01:02:01
Speaker
Everyone's there, but you can see Verso is miserable because he's being forced to exist. And my L's happy, but she's falling apart. And so it's just it's just it's a sad ending, but it's also kind of happy because everyone's alive again. So it's this whole thing of like.
01:02:16
Speaker
Is she delaying the inevitable of everyone will eventually cease to exist? Or is she just killing herself by being here? And it's it's a it's a fantastic ending. I i actually I think I liked it a little more than Verso's, but it yeah, it's it's it's great because, yeah, it's not it's not technically a happy ending, but it kind of in a way is. But but yeah, you picked Verso. So what happens in Verso's ending?
01:02:45
Speaker
So in Versus Ending, he basically he banishes her from the canvas. He does not want it. And basically, he believes that the canvas is necessary, but it's flawed.
01:02:58
Speaker
There's like a flaw. It's an opportunity. Like he wants to preserve a world without pain. um He doesn't want the truth to come out. He he thinks it's...
01:03:10
Speaker
um the truth, the illusion of like the world that they're living is better than the actual, like, um, seeing, um, seeing her die. Basically, um, you reshape the canvas basically rather than destroy it.
01:03:32
Speaker
Um, um, she's uh alicia's male is defeated verso becomes essentially the new painter of lumia he reshapes the illusions with ah the purpose that he wants the gamage ends but the world is not still real it's not it's still an artificial it's still artificial um he's basically in control of everything it's a little different huh i is there multiple more endings to this game because that is not what i saw That's how I, that's how i perceive it.
01:04:04
Speaker
Okay. Cause well, cause the, the ending I watched online, i don't know. Maybe I just misinterpreted what you said, but the ending I saw was he defeats my L and then he takes the hand. He, it's the first time he, he, so in the, during, throughout the game, it's just called like the shadow boy or something like that, or the young boy or something.
01:04:29
Speaker
And he takes the hand of that kid and he goes, it's time to rest Verso. And so like, that's the first confirmation you get that, that it's Verso. And as he picks his hand up,
01:04:41
Speaker
ah Esquire and ah Monaco both walk into where they are and he says, I'm going to miss you. And they fade off into existence or into nothingness.
01:04:53
Speaker
And then Siel walks in and she reaches out to take his hand and she disappears. And then Luna walks in and she's just like, she sits down. You don't see her disappear, but she sits down, like has an angry look on her face, looks at him and sits down.
01:05:07
Speaker
And then, Verso turns around, takes the hand of the kid, and they fade off into nothingness. And then it cuts to the real world where Clea Renoir, ah the painters, can't remember her actual name, and...
01:05:21
Speaker
and Myel or Alicia are all sitting at, or they're all standing at Verso's grave and they're kind of doing the finality thing of he's finally laid to rest and they're all sitting at his grave and Myel looks out and sees the expedition waving to her and they all fade into nothingness and then it goes to credits and I was like, that's what I saw so I don't know.
01:05:43
Speaker
So I'm interpreting it as the hey hang on one second maybe I, maybe i picked Myel maybe i did pick Myel I think I did. i can't even remember. I think I did pick my L. Okay. So yeah you saw, you saw them all at the concert and everything. Yeah. Then at the car. Cause I do recognize what you were, when you were saying that, I'm like, Oh yeah, that is, that is what I saw. Okay. Yeah. I think I did. Oh yeah. You're right where she's like, they are in control of it, but it's everything's not, it is an everything's not as it seems kind of ending. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. I picked my L. Nevermind.
01:06:17
Speaker
Okay, yes, because Verso's is much sadder, and everyone dies, and yeah it fades away, and he's finally put to rest. But yeah, ah
Emotional Stories and Connections
01:06:27
Speaker
so that's the ending. And then, um so yeah, other than that, I'm trying to think, ah so is there anything else we wanted to touch on? Because, i mean, there's so much to this game. I'm
01:06:41
Speaker
trying to think. T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t.
01:06:45
Speaker
Yeah, I loved... it's i also loved the So the camp was was fun in the sense that I liked that... um You were able to get close with everyone. I know I briefly mentioned earlier with with style, you guys bang and whatnot.
01:07:00
Speaker
And then in the end, he teaches her to swim, which is really nice because i actually love that because style. Her backstory is she loses her husband and she doesn't want to live anymore.
01:07:11
Speaker
So she decided and she was pregnant at the time. She swims basically until she can't swim anymore to drown. And as she does that, she said, i was in the middle of the ocean. i like faded from consciousness and I just woke up back in the mirror.
01:07:25
Speaker
I didn't know what happened, but I was still alive. And you find out later at the camp, she talks to SGA and he's like, she's like, why do you keep saying that I'm a bad swimmer or whatever? or Like, why do you act like we met? And he goes, I found you in the ocean. And you find out that SGA was one who saved her from killing herself in the ocean. And I,
01:07:43
Speaker
I was like, oh, that is so, so awesome. And then Luna is obviously she's kind of the nerd who's just always wanting to study everything and learn about ah finding her parents was a really cool thing. Like you eventually find her the expedition her parents were on.
01:07:58
Speaker
And obviously SGA is just a goofy. mo nuy ah I love the interaction with his neighbor when you go.
Debating Game of the Year Contenders
01:08:07
Speaker
Yeah. Francois or whatever. yeah franis Arguing over rocks. Yeah.
01:08:12
Speaker
I don't even have the rock. Oh, man. It's so funny. But then Monaco, his introduction was so funny where he's just like, we're going to go here. Okay, bye.
01:08:23
Speaker
Yes, but there's going fighting. Good, good, good, good, good. but They just had really funny interactions. And then obviously, yeah, we were talking about the gestals and stuff for goofy people, but.
01:08:35
Speaker
but Yeah, I don't have much else to add. The other question that we got was from our buddy, Zach Rakaaz. ah His question, we've already answered this, is Expedition 33 game of the year?
01:08:47
Speaker
And currently, right now it is. yeah Yeah, currently. Yes. I mean, it's only May, which is crazy that we've had so many good games this year already. But as I've said before, i think Death Stranding 2 is the only game that really has a chance, especially after seeing the new preview stuff that they've put out.
Upcoming Games and Expectations
01:09:02
Speaker
I think that's the game that really has the biggest chance for me for beating it as game of the year. I don't think there's much else. I mean, obviously, I can be surprised. i was surprised by this, but I don't think there's really because this game, i i have had this game on my mind every moment since it came out. Like, this is one of those games where I cannot stop thinking about it.
01:09:24
Speaker
And so I just don't see another game doing that except maybe Death Stranding. but Are there any other games coming out that you think might dethrone? Yeah, there's I mean, there's two more Trails games coming out this year because they're going to actually release like day and day with Japan now.
01:09:40
Speaker
um Oh, nice. The remake of Trails in the Sky, the first one. And then I don't know if this is actually going to come out. It's sales later for this year, it wouldn't shock me if it got delayed. It's being localized right now. It's Trails Beyond the Horizon, which is like the finale of the ah Daybreak trilogy.
01:09:57
Speaker
Oh, nice. And, you know, Daybreak 2 already came out this year. And I did like Daybreak 2 a lot, but I enjoyed this game more than Daybreak 2. um So I could see maybe those two games. I mean, we saw GTA 6 got the way. That definitely would have probably been my game the year.
01:10:13
Speaker
um But other than that, it depends. It really depends to be like. I don't know, maybe Nintendo announces something in June that's coming out in the fall that's like really like, hey, we're getting a new 3D Mario and we're just going to announce it now, but I doubt that will happen. um Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Probably. I mean, I really moving forward. there I mean, maybe Ghost of Yotai, but I don't think that will be my game of the year.
01:10:42
Speaker
Yeah, don't enjoy it a lot, but it's not. Yeah, like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, good Ghost of Tsushima was a huge... um surprised me like i did not expect to love that game as much as i did ah but yeah this the new one just doesn't really like i'm i'm gonna play it and i'm sure it'll be great but i have no real hype for it
Character Decisions and Preferences
01:11:05
Speaker
like it just i don't know why i just i'm not hyped at all it's funny because like when i went into tsushima i wasn't hyped at all either and mainly yeah that's true not right before that and i really enjoyed my time with it um
01:11:17
Speaker
I didn't consider it for my game of the year, though, that year. um I'm trying to think what else could potentially i mean. Donkey Kong is definitely not going to my game of the year. I know that it will be fun, but it's not. Yeah, the more I've watched trailers on that, it actually seems like it's it'll be a pretty fun game. So I'll probably play it eventually.
01:11:35
Speaker
The only thing maybe is if Mina the Hollower somehow comes out this year, maybe. Or it's like Silksong maybe. But even then, i don't know.
01:11:49
Speaker
I mean, Silksong still has 2025 date. Yeah, it also had a 2024 date and a 2023 date. Yeah, exactly. A 2022 date. Exactly. But yeah, so as of right now, it's my game of the year.
01:12:02
Speaker
Nice. Yeah, um actually, I just got a message from our buddy, Mr. Milk, who said, Greetings, Plastics. The final decision the game throws your way is brutal. How long were you staring at the screen before you ended up deciding? And was your choice what was your choice along with reasoning for it?
01:12:19
Speaker
Well, considering I screwed up and picked the wrong person, i meant to pick Verso, and I ended up picking my L, and I thought I picked Verso. um Didn't take me that long. yeah Yeah, no, I... um i was I was pretty quick to pick Mael because i i guess I was in the boat more of... i So he he says, what was your choice for picking it?
01:12:42
Speaker
And my thing was i wanted everyone to return. like I knew they were technically a fake life kind of thing. like they're not They're not even real people. But... per But I wanted them to live. I wanted Gustav to be back with Sophia. Like, I wanted everyone to be happy.
01:13:00
Speaker
And even though it was at the expense of Verso's soul, I guess. But that's why I picked it. ah I wanted Maelle to be happy because ah she was kind of right.
01:13:12
Speaker
Yeah, and you had mentioned you had mentioned in the main episode this past week that she was your favorite character. so Yeah, like, Maelle, she ah is a just an amazingly well-written character, and she has so much to... I mean, other than, like like I said, when she becomes kind of omniscient, it's a little weird, but... ah But, yeah yeah, I loved... ah ah So i was I was pretty quick to pick
Surprise Hits and Game Comparisons
01:13:35
Speaker
her. i didn't I didn't stare too long. I was... The only reason I sat there even looking at it for longer than, like, 10 seconds was the fact that I was like, hmm, I'm picking the end of the game right now, aren't I?
01:13:46
Speaker
And so I was like... And in my head, I thought like, oh, my, was the good ending versus the bad ending. But then after watching the mile ending, I'm like, oh, no, that wasn't a happy ending at all. Like it was the choice that I made, but it wasn't happy. It was a very there's good and bad to it in both endings. is There was good and bad to it. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, it's just like, like, yeah, like you said, there's no happy and there's no good ending. It's it's more of a which ending did you pick? the Which outcome did you see? Yeah, exactly.
01:14:16
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, so I picked that. It didn't take me too long to to choose it. but But yeah, that was... ah And then I think we had one on the write-in where it was we already answered it, but who was our favorite person as? And like I said, mine was Lune.
01:14:31
Speaker
But yeah. I don't have much else to add, I don't think. I know this game, it was... Again, i we'll wrap it up with... i This game was incredible. I did not expect to love it nearly as much as I did.
01:14:45
Speaker
And in a way i was thinking about it. It's kind of like Hades in that sense of, I've said this before. feel a surprise hit for you. Yeah. It's ah well, it's it's a surprise hit for me, even though Hades won like game of the year for, i think I like IGN or something. So it wasn't like an unknown game by any means, but it was a genre that I don't really go for that often. And so this one really got me into it. And like I was telling a midnight and I think you and, you know, a couple other people,
01:15:12
Speaker
I might try a Persona just because obviously it doesn't play exactly the same, but that stylized menu was so, I loved it so much that i was like, I kind of want to just play more of that. Like I'm enjoying that, that aspect of it. So I do want to, I'll, I'll play Persona eventually one day. I don't know if anytime soon, but I, I, I want to enjoy more games like this. And so games better than Persona say that right now.
01:15:40
Speaker
Is it really? I think it is. I'm not the biggest, but I'm not the biggest persona guy. I'm not the biggest Atlas guy. Oh, OK. My favorite Atlas game. My favorite Atlas game is not a popular one.
Game Critiques and Visuals
01:15:51
Speaker
I like um Soul Hackers 2. No, Soul Hackers 2 is my favorite Atlas game. And that's like everyone's like, oh, that game's terrible. I'm like, ah I like this. Yeah, that's OK. My favorite games are games that people don't like. So it's whatever.
01:16:06
Speaker
And, but speaking of which on our next episode, we'll be getting into some games that we love and that is going to be a very fun episode, but I don't want to spoil it too much because if we haven't recorded, so there's nothing to spoil, but, uh, I don't want to, I want everyone to be enjoying the topic when it comes around, but, uh, yeah, that's all I really have to say about this game. Uh, overall, like I said, if I had to rate it, it's a 10.
01:16:30
Speaker
I love this game. Um, Yeah, I have very few. Actually, oh, really quickly, I guess I could say the the only things I didn't like about the game.
01:16:43
Speaker
was it was a very small thing, but I wish that once you fought an enemy, it would let you know what its weakness was. Cause I had to guessing. couldn't remember what it was. I'm surprised they didn't do that because a lot of the games there that I could see they're taking inspiration from do do that.
01:16:59
Speaker
Um, yeah where like once you fight someone, it's kind of like recorded like, Oh, here's the weakness. And it will like highlight it in the, in the menu. So like super effective. Yeah. so that that was one thing I, I wasn't huge on. And then, um, I think that,
01:17:13
Speaker
There's one other thing I was thinking of, but I can't remember it now. But oh, there's like no fast travel system other than when you're in the level. I wasn't cute because like there'll be times where I'm like, i need to go here and then you have to get up SGA and fly for like two minutes. Like but like I never fast travel. So that didn't really bother me. Like I never fast travel.
01:17:32
Speaker
Oh, I do. Well, it was mostly when I was getting the rest of the journals I would travel from. Yeah, no, it makes sense. Yeah. But yeah, other than that, yeah, i there's not much to complain about this game. I couldn't believe how beautiful this game was. Obviously, it's Unreal Engine 5, so it's not too surprising.
01:17:48
Speaker
But yeah, there's this game is incredible. ah therere I can't believe they're going to make it a movie. They're going to freaking obviously did i think no other Just ignore the movie, play the game.
01:18:00
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. ah I'm not saying it's going to ruin my love this. series, but it's the game is going to be terrible. The only complaint I have about the game is I think the there was like those like platforming sections that were like, I think they were terribly done.
01:18:16
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And I'm like, guys, you you nail everything else so much. Why don't you just get rid of this platforming section just like fine-tune even like even more make it even better than it already is like the other aspects but other than that like that's like that that's a nitpick it's not like it's like a huge part of the game yeah exactly yeah there's there's nothing that would ever make me be like this game could have been perfect if not for this because those are so small that they're not even really yeah and that's why i'm saying it's like not like a big deal yeah exactly exactly but yeah overall
01:18:47
Speaker
uh, fantastic game. Love
Closing Thoughts and Announcements
01:18:49
Speaker
this game. Um, but that's all I have to say for it. I'm sure throughout the day today, I'll be like, ah, I should have said this. I should have said this, but, uh, yeah, I love this game and everyone should play it. And if you've listened to this and you haven't played it, why you should have played it, but yeah, that's it for me. Uh, any final thoughts before we wrap it up?
01:19:13
Speaker
No, game's fantastic. Definitely highly suggested. I'm glad that more people to be are playing and enjoying some turn-based combat. That's what I like to see. Also, last thing, Gustav looks well looks kind of like Mr. Matty Plays.
01:19:28
Speaker
He looks like Mr. Matty Plays and Robert Pattinson from the light. Yeah, I've heard the Robert Pattinson a lot, and I'm like... Yeah, and then Renoir looked kind of like Pierce Brosnan.
01:19:41
Speaker
But yeah. Um, yeah, so that's it for us. Uh, obviously please tune into our regular show. If you would like, please like, and subscribe us on YouTube. Follow us on any of those media, audio podcasts, whatever apps, uh, we'll be back. Actually we'll be back in, uh, you you're listening to this. um if you're listening this Monday, we'll be back tomorrow for a last of us discussion because we have three episodes left in that. And we've been going through that.
01:20:09
Speaker
Uh, actually those episodes are doing better than I thought they would. I i honestly assumed they'd have like 10 views each cause it's kind of a flooded market to talk about the last of us. So I'm surprised they're doing as well as they are. So thank you for everyone who tunes in.
01:20:23
Speaker
Uh, we wouldn't do this show if we're, I guess we would do it if no one was listening cause no one was listening for a long time, but thank you all anyway for listening to our show. But I am Steve for Sean saying goodbye everyone.
01:20:40
Speaker
Bye. If you like this game, go play Expedition 1 through 32. You got 32 more games to play. Yeah.