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Ep. 176 – Let's Hear It for Haitian Spiritual Warfare Analyst, Charlie Kirk!
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This week, we’re joined by Jeremiah to discuss Easter rituals, grocery store fruit theft etiquette, and the universal unpopularity of Sam’s musical tastes, for starters. Then we wade into Charlie Kirk and the gang’s poignant political, cultural, and spiritual assessments of the situation in Haiti. Charlie is the founder of Turning Point USA, and the host of a right wing talk show. What’s he look like, you ask? Picture an early 30’s youth leader that “felt called” to marry one of his parishioners on her 18th birthday. Got it? Okay, now enlarge the head, shrink the face, and slap the hind quarter of a labradoodle a little too far back on his scalp… You got it, right? All jokes aside, Charlie and his gaggle of nincompoops are a joke, and their notions of history are ridiculous. Grab a drink and prepare for some spit-takes!
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Transcript
Introduction and Welcome
00:00:00
Speaker
You know he's got the Charlie Kirk show and I don't know if it's like a Segment on the show or if it's like a sub show that he does too, but he's on one called thought crime
00:00:15
Speaker
you know what's so funny is all they do is accuse like I get the title because they always refer to liberals as the thought police so they're just outing themselves as thought criminals I guess just they want to be they want to be bad and in reality they're just boring like no one cares
00:01:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. I'm Jeremiah. And happy Resurrection Sunday, my friends. We all celebrated. We all partook.
00:01:14
Speaker
Par-tuck? Do you partake in that? Par-tuck counts. You got it. Yep. Cool.
Easter Traditions and Stories
00:01:19
Speaker
How was everyone's Easter? I was worried about mine, if I'm being honest. I shared my concerns with some people who were near me that asked what I was doing for Easter. But mine ended up being great. But what about you guys? How was yours?
00:01:36
Speaker
I was good. I just went to we went we had brunch at the Chuck E. Cheese Club. Oh, which is not as exciting as it sounds. It sounds like Golden Corral, but, you know, next to a golf course, it's like the goal. It's like eating brunch at the Golden Corral next to Pirates Cove, which sounds great. How many variations of meats were there?
00:02:01
Speaker
Yeah, you sold it. I don't know. They had a couple. I mean, it wasn't a crazy spread, but they had a prime rib, which I'm here for. Oh, yeah. I'll eat prime rib and cocktail shrimp until I throw up all over your bathroom.
00:02:17
Speaker
And how did the day end, since you teased that? Oh, just fine. I did. I did good. I kept it all down. No problem, Mr. Report. Did you participate in any Easter egg, any Easter candy, any church services? No, nothing this year. No, I listened to a little podcast thing, but that was it. Any praise of worship. Was it a part of your celebration?
00:02:41
Speaker
No, well, my nephew wasn't here this year. They, they came last year. So we did the egg hunt and all that stuff at, at the same country club, which was pretty fun. It's just a bunch of little kids in a straight up melee. Yeah. But, uh, this year he wasn't here. So there was no, no eggs to hunt.
00:03:00
Speaker
I went back to our hometown, which we do pretty much every year for Easter. And there still is Easter egg hunt every year, because now it's like, you know, it used to be me and my siblings and cousins and stuff. And now it's the next generation. It's their kids. The grandparents do it the next generation. They're like, you just do one for them. That would be fun. No, no, it's all nieces and nephews and everything. And, you know, my dad, well, I guess now the grandparents, my parents,
00:03:26
Speaker
are, you know, they put it on. It's all held at their house now. And, you know, I'm in the role of like, I have to help hide eggs because I'm an uncle now. Yeah. It's actually got to the point where like the oldest nephew is too old to participate in the egg hunt. He's now helping to hide them. Like, so we're hitting the full circle again. We're doing another lap on a generation.
00:03:45
Speaker
Um, and you know, I could see you being one of those people that puts them in really difficult hiding spots. So I don't, I don't try to make it cruel. I try to have at least a few where like they're going to feel really proud of themselves for finding it. You're like, you guys play so much Fortnite. I hope you plan on building constructs to reach some of these.
00:04:11
Speaker
Well, I did do something where I put some of them up the gutter drains like spouts and I would put like a pebble or something in the front of the spout to hold the egg up inside it. Oh, yeah. Like when you're standing, you can't see the egg. You have to actually bend down and look and then you can see it. But like you can see it immediately. It's not. I appreciate that. I.
00:04:30
Speaker
I feel like when I was a kid I did easter egg hunts we actually had to look for them like there was some that were in somewhat plain sight but there was a degree of like you gotta this isn't this isn't socialism bitch well it's hard because like you don't get to just get your
00:04:47
Speaker
Basket you gotta look man. You have to you have to vary them though because there's such a wide range of kids like at ours like There's you know There's a five-year-old all the way up to like a 14 year old was the oldest one actually looking and so like one of my nephew's he's a 12 or something and he's just tearing through the yard like a rocket like he's Shaking trees kicking buckets over like you don't do a quota
00:05:09
Speaker
12 max and then behind him. Oh, no, each kid. He's like the Stasi. Yeah. Looking for Jews. Wasn't ready for that reference. But then, like, you know, by nine year old niece, she was walking through the yard and she was just she had this very philosophical bit yesterday. She was like, you know, oh, they're missing eggs because they're just going too fast.
00:05:34
Speaker
And I was like, real tortoise move of her. And she's just walking, looking, being very careful, picking them out. She's like, if you just go slower, you can see all the eggs. Everyone else is missing. And I was like, that's right, sweetie. Just move on to the next part of the yard. But my dad this year, he's very proud of himself. He got a drone, which, you know, for every senior citizen, my dad's not technically senior citizen yet. But, you know, every everybody around AARP age
00:05:59
Speaker
getting a drone is the coolest thing that's ever happened. I mean, I can't make fun of them. I when I got a drone, all I wanted to do was stuff. But so he just filmed an overhead of like the front and backyard of their house of kids running around and then just put like the Benny Hensong to it.
Trucks and Automotive Culture
00:06:16
Speaker
And the Benny Hensong.
00:06:19
Speaker
I'm sorry, um, the like the chicken dance Okay, it was really fast like songs that people do stuff to I those would those would be in the same playlist for sure Yeah, like like you'd see in like a sped up version of something from America's funniest videos Hijinks
00:06:41
Speaker
Also very fun set to Biddy in But I ate 25 to 30 Reese's eggs conservatively That's a move that's tough. I don't think I could eat more than two without getting sick of them
00:06:58
Speaker
Yes, Sam, just for the podcast, we were talking about how you're really thin, and I'm not. Well, I ate a lot of jelly beans and drank a lot of beer. I celebrated the resurrection of our Lord David Jesus Christ with alcohols. I'm just saying, there are reasons. There are reasons.
00:07:17
Speaker
Dude, however many Reese's eggs you ate, I drank that much in calories. So that's fair. I did not have anything to drink. I did have to tow home a like a toned back a bunch of dirt for our garden. And so my in-laws, I borrowed their dump trailer and like they've got just, you know, in their dirt. What? Yeah, I brought home dirt from my in-laws house. Like, like they have richer soil.
00:07:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. They're like, they're in the woods. It's a good hardwood. You got that red clay shit going on. All right. I'm talking to Casey. I'm not talking to the liberal city boy over here. You understand how there's different soil quality places, right? Yes. OK, great. So anyway, back to both of you. No, so they just took like a couple of scoops of that and put it in their dump trailer. And that was the heaviest load I've ever towed with my truck. It was probably 8,000 or 9,000 pounds and towed that home. It was a long day. I don't know why I'm telling you to do that.
00:08:12
Speaker
down the highway it uh i did not bring the weight distributing hitch with me because i was not planning on bringing that much every bump it's just a low rider at that point you know your wife's getting seasick in the past like big swells out here today
00:08:29
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, I'm just impressed by modern trucks. That's I guess that's where that was going was I only had to floor it in one spot, but it's got a 10 speed transmission. It's got a twin turbo V6. Like it just hauled. I got 14 and that was to jump a fallen bridge, right? Exactly. Yeah. Yes, dude. Who in the world is not wanted to like jump like a car hauler trailer?
00:08:51
Speaker
Oh, yeah. You see him every time. If you ever watch videos of guys getting like brand new Raptors and they take it out to the dunes and then total it immediately. Those videos. I think everybody thinks of the exact same one when they say that, too, is like the one where the airbags explode. Yep. Yep. So so say, do you know what a Raptor is?
00:09:10
Speaker
I feel like I do, but I'm going to request an explanation. You should Google, Google, look up a picture. F-150 Raptor. So for anyone who doesn't know, it's kind of the king of the F-150s. They only come in like the quad cab short bed model.
00:09:25
Speaker
Oh, it's got big old fender flares. They've got a slightly bigger version of the regular motor. But the biggest thing about them, it's a sick looking truck. Oh, it's marketed straight to people who own a chain of CBD stores. Exactly. And it's but they have these awesome off-road suspensions that are legitimately good. Like it's not all looks. Those they are incredible off-road trucks, but they're designed around like the desert racer, like, you know, bouncing over bombs. You don't feel anything super pillowy suspension like
00:09:51
Speaker
I mean, if I had $80,000 to spend on a brand new truck, they're probably more than that now. But like, I would love a Raptor. A Raptor would be sick. But the problem is, because they market them as like these desert off-roady trucks, morons buy them, probably like 10% interest rates, 96 month loans, take them out to the dunes. And they're like, I'm going to jump at 15 feet. And like, there's limits. Like, it's great for us. For a stock truck, you can buy brand new from Ford.
00:10:18
Speaker
but like you can't jump from 30 feet laterally like 10 feet in the air. They're not going to do that. It still weighs 7,000 pounds. We don't get no monster jam type stuff. A quick Goog says they're 80 to 90 grand. I did find one for $46,000 that has 74,000 miles on it. Sounds about right. Yeah, they hold their value really well, but yeah, that's morons love buying them and then totaling them. Dealer in town here that we work with.
00:10:48
Speaker
They occasionally have the Hennessy Raptors. Oh my gosh. Was there like 800 horsepower or something like that? Another thing I have to Google. Well, while you're Googling, Google the Ram TRX.
00:11:02
Speaker
Oh yeah that one's cool. So Ram TRX? Yeah is it supposed to be pronounced Ram T-Rex? They did that to be funny. To be like the rap, to be like a. Yes because T-Rex. That's a beastly looking truck though. Yeah it's a $100,000 truck that can out drag race like a Corvette and gets like eight miles per gallon like it's.
00:11:25
Speaker
You have to give a Dodge some credit. They've embraced how utterly ridiculous every vehicle they sell is. Or like there's a ridiculous version and they're just like, what if?
00:11:35
Speaker
What if you could get single digit fuel economy and every time you press the gas pedal, like a bird falls out of the sky dead. What if you risk organ damage every time you stopped on the pedal? What if you, what if your brain slammed into the back of your skull and slowly created a like long-term hemorrhaging effect? There's a carbon monoxide detector in the cab. What if you could hit 60 miles an hour in the Chick-fil-A drive-thru?
00:12:04
Speaker
Okay, real quick, going back to Easter, what would, what would you, okay.
00:12:10
Speaker
Somebody was designing an adult Easter egg hunt, not necessarily just like dildos and whatnot. But yeah, like grown ups or grown up Easter egg hunt. Like what would you put in the Easter eggs for a grown up hunt? I would be happy with just Reese's. I don't I don't see why. Let's go with arcade tokens. That's not a bad idea.
00:12:38
Speaker
I want to say cash, but there's never, there would be never be enough cash to like make it worth it. Gift cards, uh, maybe like, um, you can't, you can't fit a gift card and shit like that. I don't know. Honestly, that's why we fangs out of them. We go like they, they probably tried and they're like,
00:12:55
Speaker
there's nothing there's nothing left for us we just gotta pass it on to the children i'd like tater tots just fit a couple tots just a couple of tots smashed in there your minds are strictly culinary and sims are strictly uh financial monetary yeah but like i don't even really like arcades i don't know why i just what what could fit in an egg that could be a fun like tradition right is like there's a bunch of tokens or whatever in the eggs and then the family goes out to a dave and busters i don't know like maybe that's your thing
00:13:22
Speaker
Yeah, I know. Yeah, that works. That would be fun. Yeah. Dave and Buster's fits into the category with like bowling, mini golf, all of that kind of stuff where like the idea of it is way more fun than the actual like doing it.
00:13:37
Speaker
Yeah, I do like bowling. I find bowling with friends to be fun. Mini golf. You just sniff in the shoes. I do. Actually, I've only bowled lately with my...
00:13:53
Speaker
kids and like I'll go with my brother-in-law and my nieces and like it's it's fun maybe it's fun because I'm going with kids but I think I like bowling I think I like bowling with friends I'm horrible at it it's it's embarrassing how bad I am at bowling I don't I mean I last time I played with bumpers my six-year-old beat me so it's bad
00:14:15
Speaker
Yeah, bowling is one of those things like it's like football. I can enjoy one game like once a year or so. And like, oh, that was a nice experience. Like, just don't make me do this again. Right. Yeah. Golf's in that category, too. Like, yeah, I like go golfing once in a while. But like the minute you run into somebody that's really serious about it, you're like, I hate that all of this sucks. I I'm realizing I hate anything that people take too seriously.
00:14:41
Speaker
Cause I'm not good at anything. So if it's like, if you play with someone who's good and competitive, it's like it, it kills it. It's not that fun. Um, if they're good and they're just still having fun with it, that's fine too. But like, like I used to disc golf a good bit. Um, I mean, I did it for like 10 years, probably.
00:15:02
Speaker
and I never improved. I've been just as bad as I was from the start. I've swung a golf club. I don't know why disc golf's like that. There are people who are incredible at it, but I don't play with those people. There's this unbearable dude that I used to work with that we would always get stuck together at golf outings.
00:15:23
Speaker
One, I'm not a big golfer. Two, if I'm at a golf outing, it's probably costing me a bunch of money. So I'd get like shoehorned into sponsoring these stupid outings and then like get stuck with this guy, John, who was just like a douchebag.
00:15:41
Speaker
And he would say like really dumb thing, like nobody liked him. Everybody was nice to him, but nobody liked him because he was just kind of like this. We all know those kinds of people. Snooty jerk. And like he would say things like I would you just like I would get to a point where I'm like not landing a putt and I would just pick them all up and be like, I'm done with this whole and he'd be like.
00:16:02
Speaker
You're like, dude, you got to hear it go into the you got to hear that jangle when it goes into the hole. It's a mental thing. It's a mental thing. Someone saying that was closure. You're like, Mike, mom didn't just die. You fucking idiot. Yeah, I don't need closure.
00:16:17
Speaker
Or like if you scooped one out of the weeds or something, he'd be like, hey man, respect the game. Your kids don't respect you. I hate you. I hate your stupid Lane Bryant pants. Go
Music Reviews and Personal Tastes
00:16:33
Speaker
screw yourself, John. Respect the game.
00:16:37
Speaker
It's funny when people have more respect for games than they do for like people and fun and life. It's all about respecting the game. It's like how about you have one some self respect to respect for me who's not having any fun. I'd rather be dead.
00:16:58
Speaker
Yeah. Sam, you're just full of that millennial irony. You just can't enjoy anything sincerely, can you? Unless it's like post-hardcore emo bands. Yeah. Yes. The kind that are blowing up. Yeah. Pop it off, if you will. Yeah. Pop it off.
00:17:18
Speaker
I'm in a discord with some old friends from like high school and we all have varying tastes in music like you have like a grindcore black metal kid in it you have just like I know it's like it's but we have this channel in it it's a music review club I might have mentioned it before it's fun
00:17:39
Speaker
there's about seven people in it and we have a rotation so you when it's your turn you drop an album and everyone listens to it within a week or so uh it ends up being a little bit less than that and then they write an honest review about how they felt about it hmm that actually sounds pretty fun it's a lot of fun we should probably get something like i would like to get something like that going in our discord case but can we do it for old ccm albums
00:18:02
Speaker
We could do it. Anyone could drop in. I would leave our own Discord if we made it exclusively about that. Excuse me. Nobody likes my music. I have the most hated music in that group. I've tried putting in shit I like and it gets ridiculed endlessly. There's a kid who likes grindcore in there and your music's getting ridiculed.
00:18:29
Speaker
It's crazy because I get worse reviews on my albums and he does on some of his and I'll even review I'll write his some like pretty okay like because what it does is when you're in like this review mode you go
00:18:43
Speaker
it's I go it's less about how I immediately feel about it and more about like listening with a critical lens so you go even if it's not for me I'll I'll find some positives and be like this black metal band that didn't do a lot for me on a personal level but here are some things they did that I actually found interesting and
00:19:02
Speaker
I might give it a better review, and we do it on a 1 to 10 scale. I don't know if I want to be good at this. Everyone kind of does it their own way. Casey, you just come up with your own iconic rating that's just like the vibe scale, the Casey vibe scale, and be like, vibes are yes, or vibes are no, and that's all you have to do. That's your commitment level.
00:19:22
Speaker
and I think I'm a little bit more generous maybe because I feel bad about like shitting on people's bands but that's gone now because anyway long-winded to get to this point there's a band I don't know if you guys know the band Wolf and Bear it's not a great band they haven't put out a full length since 2017 but I liked their 27th their last album a lot I thought it was good and they put out a new one
00:19:50
Speaker
I didn't even realize they put it out but it came out at like towards the end of 2023 and I put it I was like oh I haven't listened to this yet but I like this band I want to listen to it it's also my turn I'm just gonna like I'll just toss this album in for this week and we'll just I'm interested what other people will think because I'm gonna listen to it for the first time too
00:20:12
Speaker
And the first review was my friend, he did a little voice memo, voice review, where he's just like, look, man, I've known you for a long time. I consider you a really good friend. Oh, man. I don't I would never want to do anything that would come in the way of our relationship. But I think this is one of the worst things I've ever listened to in my entire life.
00:20:43
Speaker
but what's crazy is the grind core kid and black metal kid was like gave it a five five was like actually there was some stuff in there I thought was pretty fine like wait I would have expected him to be like this is one go kill yourself and I just I don't know it's I would put them I think their new album was kind of in the vein of like that like
00:21:07
Speaker
swan records dance gavin dance style of like that you know it's just like a lot of change up not good really noodley shut the fuck up idola another one like great band it's just that really like sweepy noodley shit but that my friend hates it anyway this is all just to say you pointed out my music made fun of me for it that's all i experience on a
00:21:33
Speaker
semi-weekly basis
Family Dynamics and Grocery Store Etiquette
00:21:34
Speaker
when I introduce the two of us will always have the wonder years. Okay, we at least yeah, the hot mulligan in the wonder years we can wait. No, you didn't like hot mulligan. No, I love hot mulligan. Except the one song where he got vulnerable about his red rat and that song sucks. All right, fine. We can we'll have a truce on that one. But I'm getting so comfortable with everyone hating everything. I like musically.
00:21:57
Speaker
But have you shown them albums like a Hot Mulligan album or a Wonder Years album? I truly believe they would not like those. You know what? Because of this conversation, those are my next two. I'm going to do the newest Hot Mulligan album, and I will do my next one will be No Closer to Heaven. I think that's Peak Wonder. Oh, man. I think I agree with you on that. Man, if they don't like those two albums, I'm going to be mad just by proxy.
00:22:25
Speaker
Yeah, I'll I'll I'll introduce those and I'll report back. Please do. Yeah. All right. Real quick. I have something to complain about. And well, first of all, my Easter was fine. I I've talked a little bit about how so I host Easter at my house and we ended up doing that because like we do Christmas with my in-laws.
00:22:51
Speaker
Sorry, I do Christmas with my in-laws and then we'll do Thanksgiving with my family. And then we just got tired of figuring out how to split up holidays. So we're like, it makes sense for us to do Easter and have my parents and my family and my in-laws over. So we just do everything at my house.
00:23:08
Speaker
pretty low-key this year because all of my siblings couldn't make it in their SOs so like it was just my parents and then my in-laws and then two of my wife's brothers and and whatever it was really their wives, significant others, nieces whatever but it was a small group I always only get a little nervous about Easter I also stress the fuck out when I host shit because I'm so I was doing like
00:23:35
Speaker
Everyone brings some things, but I was doing the ham and that's kind of the centerpiece of Easter, right? It's like the main, it feels like the main thing. And I'm like, anytime I have to cook something like that for a lot of people, like Thanksgiving, I would just die because drying out a turkey is just a bad feel. I mean, I don't think I could feel more shame than if I like dried out a turkey and then had to serve it on Thanksgiving.
00:24:01
Speaker
but the hams are a little easier because you know you buy the pre-cooked ones you're like at least no one's gonna die if I fuck this up you're making it hot and then yeah basically yeah and you're like making the glaze and you're doing you're trying to make it just better but it can't be bad so that's fine but I still get stressed out because I'm like oh
00:24:21
Speaker
I gotta get it in a certain time. I gotta like, not only do I have to get it in at the right time, then it needs to be ready. Everyone's coming over at this time. Everyone's over. It's almost time to eat. It's only 80 degrees in the middle. And I'm like, fuck this. I'm just like getting pissed at that point. But anyway, everything came out fine. I think there's some dynamics, politically speaking, in our families that make me feel not happy or safe in my own home. When people have certain conversations, I just go,
00:24:49
Speaker
Where's the place I can go with no people for a moment and I'll do that and we avoided
00:24:56
Speaker
politics didn't come up this year at all. And it was like that made it that made it a wonderful Easter. I actually thoroughly enjoyed it because no controversial shit came up. But when I was the day before Easter, here's the thing I want to complain about. But I don't like I going places with people bothers me usually. So like I do what you guys take on this. I
00:25:24
Speaker
I had to go to the store for minimal things. I needed blueberries, I needed strawberries, and that might have, there was at least one other thing on the list. When I got to the blueberry section, there was a mom and her daughter standing in front of it. The blueberry section is probably only about three feet wide, and she's just there for so fucking long. And she's opening every pint of blueberries
00:25:52
Speaker
and taking a blueberry out and tasting it and then closing the pint. She's eating the blueberry? Yes. OK, thank you. I thought this was weird. I really thought if you were, say, like opening them to see like how bruised they are, like, OK, if you're opening every single one, eventually, like just take one and go eating them, especially because I'm guessing they haven't been washed.
00:26:12
Speaker
yet yeah and i don't even consider washing but that's a conversation i never wash it that's an argument my wife and i have that's fine we don't you have to wash it i was like oh you mean rinse it under cold water which effectively does nothing all right so we'll have a truce on that one
00:26:30
Speaker
You just gave it a little spritz. Cool. But yeah, I was waiting for a while. I'm like standing next to her for obviously time feels longer when you're in a weird situation, but it was probably like 15 seconds, which in waiting next to a stranger time is like predatory law. Like you look
00:26:54
Speaker
like you're about to do something like you're maybe gonna steal their child if you're there that long so but she just opens she takes one she gives one to her kid closes it takes another one she tasted a blueberry or two from every single fucking pint that was there i had to i left the area encircled around the protease aisle twice waiting for her to clear out
00:27:18
Speaker
while other people were waiting for her to move away from the blueberry area so they could buy blueberries and they're all the same brand like
00:27:28
Speaker
Yeah, presumably coming from the same place. They're not tasting any different. Like with strawberries, there's a test for strawberries, right? You go, how red are these? Then you know which ones are more right. But blueberries, you can't tell by looking. And I guess she felt like she had to taste all of them. But whenever I buy blueberries, there's a mix. You get a tart one, you get a sweet one, you get a tart. You just want to make sure they're not mushy, and then you're pretty much good to go.
00:27:55
Speaker
They're delicious and you want you all the shit circles through your brain of like I it's it's fair for me to say something
00:28:04
Speaker
Like, you're the asshole. You know that Reddit channel? Am I the asshole? Yeah. I love that channel. It's so fun. I haven't been in that. Oh, it's good. This woman needs to make a post. I might post in that channel as that woman just to get a nice Reddit consensus on. I don't feel like you can sell the idea of that woman. There's going to be so passive aggressive.
00:28:28
Speaker
You're right. Just because I have to sample blueberries out of every package, am I a jerk?
00:28:35
Speaker
Now I said, I don't know the layout of like the blueberry section there. He said it was like three or four feet wide. You couldn't just like walk up around her and be like, excuse me and grab a thing of blueberries. I definitely could have. I just don't talk to people at grocery stores. I don't. So I don't say, excuse me. See, this is you and April in the same boat. Yeah. It's like she will stand there and like avoid eye contact with the person that's standing in front of it for an hour, if need be, to not talk to them. And I'm like, like,
00:29:03
Speaker
Pardon me. Pardon me. You know what it is? I feel like I think it's so fucking aggravating that like she's I know maybe this is my head but I swear to Christ she was looking around like doing like that like oh is it oh I don't like like she's wondering if she's being annoying I felt like she knew she was being annoying but just needed to taste the blueberries like
00:29:29
Speaker
She's fucking looking so like right next to it you go like the eye like that little section ends because it's a whole
00:29:36
Speaker
It's not normally like an entire thing of berries, but it's Easter. I guess they bring out the berries for Easter. So you just have like your strawberries, your raspberries, blackberries, your blueberries, and then the walking space for the aisle and then the deli. And she's looking over the deli people like, is anyone going to say anything about me eating all these blueberries? Like she looked suspicious.
00:30:01
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It would be ridiculous if she was just eating one out of every package like she was testing it, but like handing them to her kid to eat as well. Like, like what's your kid's not sampling them. Now I will say I do steal. I do steal grapes pretty frequently. I do like the drive by, but I don't like stand in front of them and just munch them. You know, I yeah, I just subtly like I reach in the bag.
00:30:29
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grab two on my way through. I actually find more reasonable, and maybe that's some of my upbringing is coming into play there because I recall being a kid and my mom buying grapes where you appreciate the shame of stealing it. You would do a taste test because at least all those grapes are on the same vine. So if one grape sucks, you can assume maybe the rest of them suck. That is true. But blueberries, you pick those all are a mix of blueberries from thousands of bushes.
00:30:58
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I will also say that I only steal grapes when I'm not buying grapes.
00:31:11
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Yeah. Can I tell you about a thing that I saw that was traumatic? You can, but I also need to quickly say Ambrosia salad was brought to my Easter and that was another hang up I had, but that's all. There's no thing to do there. We just talk about Ambrosia salad here. Ambrosia salad. It just resurrects some church hurt for you.
00:31:36
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Yeah. Oh yeah. It's triggering. It's the what? It's the fruit cake of Easter. Yeah. Every holiday except for Christmas. So I had an experience this weekend that kind of like took me back to childhood a little bit.
00:31:54
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You got baptized? No, but I went to a car race. My grandpa loves car race. I like owned them too, but my dad and my grandpa are really big into watching car races. We went to this one. It's a special one called World of Outlaws. It's a dirt track race with sprint cars that are like 900 horsepower. They spin sideways throughout the whole track. A bunch of them wrecked. It was awesome.
00:32:21
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But, uh, it's at this like little dirt track in Wichita. And at
Gym and Locker Room Etiquette
00:32:27
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one point I was like, I'm going to go use the restroom and get like a bottle of water or whatever. So I go out, I find like where the restroom is, uh, and there's a line, you know?
00:32:40
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And so you're standing in line kind of like working your way into the restroom and there's like stalls to one side and then you turn to the right or to the left and it's all like urinals along the wall. No trough urinals but no dividers, right? And you know how like
00:33:00
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Men have different size branches to urinals. I'm short, so if I have the little kid urinal, which is what I pick most of the time, right? Okay, Casey, you're not that short. You're not so short, you have to choose the little kid urinal. But his dick is that big. It's his height combined with his dick length that makes it the appropriate urinal.
00:33:24
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like I'm not that short that I have to but I have to because I'm five six and mostly torso and my thighs are chubby so like I can't straddle a normal man's urinal I have to stand off yeah I have to perch on the edge like a like a finch pecking at seeds
00:33:45
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Like so that's why I always pick the little one but you see people like some people stand I mean they literally like crawl into the urinal, right? They're like that close to it. They're in it and then others they they're so insecure their masculinity They're like, what if other people are looking no one is looking like when you're at the urinal No, man, like everyone under you just look straight ahead mind your business. Like yeah, it is
00:34:07
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I think everyone's a little worried about what other people are going to think if they see their penis, knowing everyone's thinking that and not looking at other people's penises. I saw an old dude, dong. Oh, you look, dude. You did that on purpose. I saw it from like 10 yards away. It was that big? Was he one of the guys who just drops the pants all the way to the floor and is just standing there, just bare ass? No, I mean, he was perched out on the end, you know?
00:34:36
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he was a woodpecker out there on the on the tip but like he had he's had a big fat hog like I was like clear at the other end of the room and it was just like I just like looked over to like you know you're watching to see which one of them clears out so you could go and I'm just like
00:34:56
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Oh my god. Oh, that's horrific. It reminded me of like being like were you ever a little kid when you were younger and you like go to the bathroom and you're standing at the urinal at like a sports game or something and you like glance to the side and there's just like these huge grotesque like old purple penises.
00:35:20
Speaker
Like elephant trunks. That rubber band's just wrapped around the base. Maybe. I didn't have that happen at like a public urinal, but at the local gym, we would go to, it was like at a rec center. And that's where we went for karate classes. And we ran into our swimming coach there. And he did the old man thing where you walk out of the shower with a towel wrapped around you, walk over to your locker, and just struck up a conversation with us because he was excited to see us.
00:35:48
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And just how excited the towel off. Okay. Not excited. He never did anything inappropriate towards children that I'm aware of.
00:35:57
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Except for maybe standing naked in front of them in a locker room for entirely too long before he got dressed. Here's the thing. I know we're all supposed to be like past the purity culture, all of that stuff. Shame is useful. You know, shame, shame protects you from some stuff. If you're too comfortable being naked in front of people, I don't like you.
00:36:18
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I don't like you and I don't want to know you. Just as a general rule. Tell that to Luke Wilson, man. You don't like Luke Wilson? Well, okay. Maybe there's exceptions. But as a general rule, if you're an old man in a YMCA and you're just strutting around naked just because, why are you there? Is there no shower at your house? It's not like you were working up a sweat. You were doing water gymnastics.
00:36:44
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give me a break it's literally just an excuse to go in there and just like like cross swords with your buddies in the shower he needs to get clean before he tucks his short sleeve button-up shirt and do his khakis and heads over to the hardies for a biscuit okay you can't be doing that all sweaty yeah you can't you can't walk into a hardy's all sweat you can't walk in i mean what god
00:37:08
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But I
Charlie Kirk and Conservative Media
00:37:09
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know I lost my train of thought. If, you know, change clothes, that's fine. That's normal. You know, get dressed. Do whatever. That's fine. Right. But like when you start like putting your your foot up on the bench.
00:37:24
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You know, and ending over and working on your toes. I'll go a step further than that. Like when I was showering at the gym and stuff, like even as an adult, I carry my underwear and stuff into the shower and I put that on there. Like I'm never at any scenario. Am I going to be walking?
00:37:41
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or even standing in front of my locker naked like it's not necessary like there's a solution for it you just bring some of your clothes with you and then you put them on before you leave the shower like i i don't understand what's the appeal like so you have to be slightly less like it's more convenient to not bring your clothes with you like it's not that much harder to do it i don't know it just doesn't seem like this is that big of a deal
00:38:05
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Then afterwards, you got to stand there naked while you put your, your shorts in the trunk juicer. Yeah. I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to put clothes on. Like it's fine.
00:38:17
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yeah well speaking of old ball sacks uh you guys we haven't you know i don't know that we've ever covered anything from our friend and uh cohort charlie kirk on the show oh no i don't think we have no he's somehow he is he is evaded like making it on an old ball sack
00:38:41
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No, he's kind of a young ball sack. Like a slightly younger but definitely quite saggy ball sack. I was showing April- His haven't tightened, they haven't tightened up yet, you know? Right. I was showing April like a clip of him today and she was like, he looks just like the guy that like middle-class fancy uses in all of his memes.
00:39:06
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He is that dude. It's definitely like a meme. It's a memeable face. It's like a, it's like a, I like politics and come from money face. Yeah. Like a little, like, like the, there's more square footage on your head than your face really warrants. It's like if Tucker Carlson's son also was following in Tucker Carlson's footsteps for some inexplicable reason.
00:39:32
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Like if you told me the two of them were directly like blood relatives, I would absolutely believe you, except Charlie Kirk probably has a bigger head. Yeah. He's like Kirk. He's the president of the college Republicans that will eventually be metude out of existence. Yeah. He has a cartoonish looking face like a David and Goliath.
00:39:50
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Hey, Davey, cartoon ass. Because he
Haiti's History and Western Influence
00:39:53
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dresses like Tucker Carlson and has the same haircut and stuff. Like if he just was a little more age appropriate, which he probably would mock for being like lefty and woke or whatever. Like if he just dressed his age, he would look normal. He's eight. He's only 30. Oh, he's that old. I thought he was still like 26 or something. 25, 26. He's only 30.
00:40:13
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I don't know how I feel about that. I don't know if I was thinking of him as older or younger. Yeah. He's just ambiguous. I just hate it. Like he is like, did you know anybody? We talked about him because he had the they had the Falkirk Center at Liberty. That's the last time we it's been a while because they changed the name of that after Falwell's bullshit.
00:40:35
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That was the last time we talked about Charlie Kirk, but we all wasn't really a big focus on Charlie Kirk. Yeah. He just looks like the starting avatar of like a college Republicans game. He definitely looks like he's going to have a gay sex scandal at some point in his life. Oh, maybe. Like it's in the water. It's that like that male escort in a limo 20 years down the road, like.
00:40:59
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I feel like anyone who goes as right wing as he does at his age is like hiding some things that they haven't come to terms with. Speaking of which.
00:41:10
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I think next week we're going to air the episode that we did with Luke Wilson. Yeah. And, uh, we did a pretty deep dive on, uh, Ted Haggard. Yeah. He's a Ted Haggard type. Yeah. It rings pretty true for him. So Charlie Kirk.
00:41:32
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You know, he's got the Charlie Kirk show and I don't know if it's like a segment on the show or if it's like a sub show that he does too, but he's on one called thought crime. You know, it's so funny is all they do is accuse like I get the title.
00:41:54
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FUCK THAT SUCKS! HOLY SHIT HE SUCKS SO BAD! You could say, always refer to liberals as the thought police. So they're just outing themselves as thought criminals, I guess. They just want to be, they want to be bad so badly. And in reality, they're just boring. Like, no one cares.
00:42:17
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It's so good. That's funny as fuck. In a society built on half truths, telling the truth itself is a crime. Yeah. It's that sort of thing.
00:42:28
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People like him always have an association with the Punisher and Batman too. That's who they would compare themselves. They love the characters. That's who they compare themselves to. He would compare himself to old, dead writers and poets and philosophers who he would absolutely hate everything about them in reality, but they're convenient for his narrative. That's who he would see himself as. Like evangelicals with C.S. Lewis? Or Jesus. That's actually what I was going to say.
00:42:56
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Yeah, he's a little inconvenient for evangelicalism. But yes, C.S. Lewis is a great example. I mean, it's, you know, it's the stereotype. Charlie Kirk is the guy who posts Martin Luther King quotes once a year and then viciously attacks everything else about his legacy or wants to bring up like, but did you know we cheated on his wife? Yeah. So that's why black people should maybe get back in line. Yeah. Charlie Kirk, his self concept is Clint Eastwood, like in his glory days, but
00:43:26
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In reality, he's more like Ray Romano eating a pickle through a hole. He thinks he's Clint Eastwood in his glory days but he's actually Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino.
00:43:39
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There's actually Mary and Wayne, who, you know, dies of super cancer playing Genghis Khan in the desert. So he and his boys on thought crime, which there's like three other guys on there. I don't do the day, but every time I say the name, it just makes me giggle. It's Jack, but so beak, Tyler Boyer and Blake Nef.
00:44:08
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Okay. Only other one I know is Jack Bassovic and he's, I mean, I don't know if it's worth describing him. He's just like all the rest of them, but at least he has some clout. I'm not sure about the other two. Yeah, I got some clips of him. I'm not even familiar with either of those names at all. They recently took on the goings on in Haiti.
00:44:29
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Oh boy. And had some interesting takes on it. So yeah, they're talking about every, every conservative is like going on and on about Haiti right now because of like the rumors and stuff about cannibalism and all of that, which I don't, I don't know. I keep hearing that floated, but then I've heard like more reputable people say that that's just like, that's nonsense. It's not happening. And.
00:44:57
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I don't know. Wait, wait, wait. This is not made it into my, I don't know, YouTube algorithm. I don't... There's a whole thing going on with Haiti right now where there's accusations of like rampant cannibalism. Well, so Haiti is a failed state at the moment. Well, debatably has been for longer than a moment, but Haiti is being recognized publicly right now as a failed state. Which means like it's like... Like the government has... It's completely degenerating.
00:45:27
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The government doesn't really isn't able to function anymore. So it's not like it doesn't mean that it's the purge all of a sudden necessarily. But like, you know, the government can't provide any services. People are fending for themselves predictably as people start to fend for themselves. OK, things break down and get worse. I mean, it's just it's the breakdown of a society as it slips from one status to another. You know, it's it's it's well armed criminal militias that are
00:45:53
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Kind of like running things right now in certain parts of the country right there was a big prison break where they broke like I don't know it was like 7,000 people out of like a big prison there and There's this guy named that goes by the name barbecue that is kind of like the ringleader right now He's sort of the leader of the
00:46:15
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you know, resistance, gang movement and stuff. I don't know a lot about him. I know that like his name barbecue comes from the fact that like he was his parents were like street vendors that sold chicken and he's a former police officer. That's way more wholesome. I was thinking he set a lot of humans on fire. Well, that's that's the thing is like that. That's actually where his name, his nickname comes from. He was a police officer and stuff. And then he became a drug
00:46:44
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drug trafficker and but he's kind of like at the forefront of this like armed group that's sort of like running parts of the city now. And but like if you listen to conservative media, like he's called barbecue because he cooks and eats his rivals and stuff. I mean, that's literally like the talking points on it. So what angle? So what angle is the brain trust taking with Haiti? Like, how is anarcho-capitalism going to solve this one?
00:47:12
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Well, they have they have they don't necessarily take a full stab at like what's going to fix it, but they have some ideas on what you don't say wrong. You're telling me that their entire online radio or radio presence is just based on criticizing things and not presenting solutions that seem so unlike they feel less of a political problem and more of a spiritual problem.
00:47:41
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Oh, that does sound a lot like what we grew up with. I just told you of a clip case because the at that point, at that point, the only solution is to pray and read your Bibles more, which is the best way to do nothing. Right. I think like what's important about the history of Haiti, which that's going to be our opening clip is of Jack Prosobiak or however you say his last name.
00:48:09
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giving a defacto history lesson on how Haiti got to this point and really like where it comes from is like they threw off their colonial oppressors in a pretty violent revolution, you know, uh, because it was, it was warranted. And since then Western powers have like interfered in their government over and over and over again. And.
00:48:35
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pretty much undermined any legitimate leadership that they've ever had. The most recent thing is that they had their like democratically elected president was assassinated in like 2019 or 2020. There was an interim leader that was put in place, his last name's Henri. It looks like Henri, I think it's pronounced Henri, but he overstayed his welcome. He was supposed to help organize elections and stuff so that they could get a new,
00:49:03
Speaker
leader elected and he just kept kicking that can down the road. Seemed very reluctant to give up power. Real power team move, if you will. Right. There's a lot of people pretty upset about how things were going in the country. And finally, like people just rose up and said like, Hey, you're done. He left the country, went to try to rally Western support and stuff like that, which there was several options floated like a Kenyan force almost went in.
00:49:29
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this and that and the other, but basically like he has officially stepped down as of like early last week or something like that, right? But it's like, it's this, the same story of like Western interference that you see in a lot of the Middle Eastern countries, you know, and pretty much everything that we've touched over the years has that stain on it where it's like,
00:49:51
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We have we have ideas about who they should democratically elect and who should be allowed to hold power. And it's, you know, we really want our puppets in there. But this is Jack's, you know, short history lesson on Haiti. And even, by the way, after the revolution, revolutionary government, Blake and I discussed this revolutionary government had freed the slaves, didn't matter, kill all the French anyway. So they did that. And I mean, you can just it's amazing that this is this is a distinction.
00:50:21
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that can now be seen from outer space, this borderline, because you have one country that over 200 years ago, 220 years ago, was founded in this sort of quasi proto-Marxoid slave revolt. And then another country, which was founded by a serious country, the Spanish Empire, later gained its independence, fought many wars against Haiti.
00:50:48
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And you can see one is like a lush tropical resort and the other is a complete wasteland filled with cannibal gangs. Christ. He throws out the word Markso. Marksoid. I guess the workers seizing the means of production is also similar to when the workers who are the means of production seize their freedom. Is that the...
00:51:10
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Is that the delineation he's making there? There seems to be this idea in conservative circles that Haitian somehow inked some deal with the devil to overthrow the French overlords.
00:51:26
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And I don't know where that comes from or why it's so prevalent, but that seems to come up over and over again where it's like, yeah, they made some sort of satanic pact and now that's where like voodoo and all of this stuff comes from. And like, so it's, it can't succeed because it's bad. Right, right.
00:51:46
Speaker
The irony I find with these people is they love this like they literally can't stop jerking their dicks to don't tread on me concepts but then if you go to like an African nation they go I mean you the biggest problem was you tried to overthrow your oppressors like they can't it's just they can't make the equivalency that goes like people don't want to be oppressed and when you are oppressed
00:52:14
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your fight to liberate yourself from oppression doesn't always, or maybe even often have a solid strategy post, like fighting off your oppressor. Like, step one, fighting your oppressor. Step two, establishing a government that works. And that creates power vacuums. And that is like, there's so many chances for it to go wrong, but that doesn't mean that like fighting your oppressors is the problem.
00:52:44
Speaker
Right. But like that's always the myth of like a successful revolution, isn't it? Like the American Revolution, the overly simplified version of it that you were taught is like, you know, we came here for religious freedom, specifically Christian religious freedom. And but England wouldn't let us, you know, they were overtaxing us and they wouldn't let us have our religious freedom and they were overstepping and over time, the people rose up and they fought back and we drove England out over time and
00:53:13
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You know, that's why America was founded as the greatest country ever. No one had ever tried representative democracy before, et cetera, et cetera. The great experiment of America. And in reality, it's like there was large parties of loyalists who did not want to break from England. There was parties who wanted to fight. A lot of the people fighting in the revolution, like
00:53:34
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had committed crimes against the British government and this was like they saw it as their way out. Like there was parties like different Native American tribes that were factioned with America, factioned with Europe or factioned with England, you know the French joining the war really upset a bunch of things. Like it really is just a war for a lot of the complicated reasons that wars get fought and in this one you know we happened we
00:53:59
Speaker
happen to win just very narrowly and then we're able to create a new country and that does happen every once in a while but like it's a lot less ideologically pure than you know the overly simplified version that people want to believe because it lines up with whatever their worldview is.
00:54:14
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And like for Haiti, I mean, I do not know a massive amount about the history of Haiti other than, you know, slave revolt set up a government. They get barbecued. Oh, man, that's a bad choice of words. I think that was just stuck in my head. They get annihilated by hurricanes. It seems like once every 10 years, which probably has made it pretty hard to set up like any sort of long term functioning government. But yeah, like you said,
00:54:38
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they've got resources that make it fun for people to tamper with them and not leave them alone. And so they've always struggled in the way that we would if we weren't so used to having our geographic superiority that we do. And then, yeah, they're they're not doing well. And then so instead of having a lot of compassion for the people there, it sounds like they're just using that for like their
00:54:58
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stupid scoring culture war points about like ah well this is founded in the tenets of Marxism and that's why obviously it failed because it's a socialist state yeah I don't even
00:55:13
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I'm not even sure what he means by that either. Like, yeah, what is the correlation? The only I mean, I'm making this up. I don't know what his actual thoughts are. I can only assume it's because it's like the workers, you know, the slaves rose up and took the place over and like divided everything equally or whatever, like whatever version of it he thinks is true. That may be totally wrong. What's the other country? He was Dominican Republic. So Hispaniola is the island.
00:55:40
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that both of those sit on. It's divided down the middle. Haiti's on the west side. Dominican Republic's on the east. So is he is he stating that the DR is doing fantastic? Yeah. I don't think it is. It's not. I mean, I mean, maybe something inappropriate, but there's not no problems going on at the DR. It does at the hedonism resort where he hangs out when he goes there.
00:56:08
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Oh my God. Looks great from the resort parking lot, you know. I think, well, like just the idea of like.
00:56:16
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You know, the Dominican Republic was, you know, it was founded by a serious country, Spain, like the Spanish empire. I don't know. It's just crazy. He just likes baseball and knows we'd be fucked without the DR. That's all. That could be too. I think too, like, so it did, Jeremiah, did you listen to that hardcore history episode that Dan Carlin did last year about slavery? It was called human resources.
00:56:43
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No, I got about an hour into it and I just never got back to it. So he pauses on Haiti for a little while and.
00:56:52
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I think when you hear the term slavery, you think of the U.S. plantation system. Yeah, like chattel slavery. Right. Yeah, I think immediately people think of chattel slavery. I think slavery in Haiti was horrific on an even baser level, like mutilations and just horrible like tortures and punishment and stuff like that. I mean, it was it was really absolute brutality.
00:57:23
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And I feel like governments were in control at that time. Like what? The French, the French. OK. Yeah, the French colonialists. And yeah, when when it did finally.
00:57:34
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The bow broke on that thing. It did go south hard. But, you know, the idea that you're just going to go, okay, well, you're free now. And sorry, we cut off all your kids' hands. And it's all just going to, let's set up a parliament, you know, like you created hell. And then, you know, I mean, it's just that it's such a stupid, like it's, it's exactly what you see.
00:58:03
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Everybody I want to say conservatives conservatives for sure, but like everyone just milks what they need out of history Like you you just pick it apart and you take what you want and you go case closed. I'm not learning any more about it
00:58:18
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this is what it is to me. The Bolsheviks killed everyone and they created a giant prison state and everyone was miserable and the government told you what job you had to have and it was that way and totally awful. Oh and they persecuted Christians.
00:58:36
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Oh, they love that one comes up a lot. The Roman Empire collapsed because of rampant homosexuality. We all probably learned that one, too. Yeah. Same with the Greeks. Yes. They couldn't stop buttfucking. That's just how everybody like takes everybody uses history to that extent. It's so irritating to listen to. So.
00:58:58
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Here's Charlie weighing in on the spiritual side of this conflict. In fact, I know people that went to Haiti passively as agnostic atheists and they came back searching for Jesus because they saw like legit demonic activity.
00:59:14
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Well, do they say any more? Yeah, there was one guy who saw somebody who literally didn't sleep for two weeks and would just like run, literally run around and not sleep for two weeks, like ran through the whole island with like supernatural type capacity.
00:59:31
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There are claims that people have seen like quasi levitation stuff, almost head spinning type stuff. And then Andrew says this was very common. Yeah. Here's one that when Andrew was in Haiti, there were common stories about people turning into cats at night, which I don't know. They all knew someone that turned into cats. Again, I'm not sure about that. I haven't heard that. But this like supernatural energy or just also the stuff where
00:59:59
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You know, you look in the Hollywood films where someone like looks possessed, right? Imagine like entire towns that look that way.
01:00:08
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He's just like Alex Jones, where everything traces back to a movie or something that someone said they saw or they know someone who saw. I remember there were missionaries who came to our church. I don't remember their names, but when I was eight or nine that told stories, I think it was about Haiti and the same stuff. Told stories about people who could, they could separate their spirit from their body using demonic magic and they could travel through the walls of your
01:00:35
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house and kill you and like yeah astral projection stuff and like and as a kid I was terrified of like the idea of like you know it definitely I guess it had the intended effect I was like oh this spiritual warfare thing is real like this is definitely real and all those stories people told and like it's one thing to like in the 80s and 90s right like I feel like the
01:00:59
Speaker
Um, the Pentecostal movement relied on a lot of stuff like that. And I think maybe that made more sense before everybody had a cell phone and could document all of that not happening. But it's wild to me that like someone like Charlie Kirk is still repeating that same stupidity. Like it's just it's just folk tales and stuff that's been around forever. Yeah. I love stories. I like the guy responding to Charlie Kirk, who sounds like he's just double fisted natty lights for the past two hours.
01:01:27
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Oh, bro. Do you have any, do you have any more examples of that? Did they say any more? They said some people turn into cats and he's like, ah, I'm sorry. I asked. That really took me out of the moment. Oh my God, dude. It's so funny. It's like.
01:01:44
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Like, yeah, there was a guy who didn't sleep. He didn't sleep for like two weeks and he just ran. He just ran all over the island. It's like, what is the trade off? Like, what is it? What is this pact with the devil net you as a person? Like, why does anybody do it? Is that like this person's aspiration was just to like not sleep and run?
01:02:08
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Like, yeah, they do. It is fun because they act like they traded something. It's like they got liberation, but then ended up with like mental illness later. Like that was it's like Sam, Sam, you're way underselling that demonic powers, not mental illness. OK, but like what they got out of it versus where they ended up. It's like, I guess that's the whole idea with Christianity, right? You make a deal with the devil.
01:02:35
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and it looks good but the devil loves loopholes the irony of the devil loving loopholes is nobody loves loopholes more than christians they love them it's true they find loopholes for everything okay but like did
01:02:52
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People they're selling this all wrong like What is what is what does Christianity have for superpowers to compare to like astral projection and like being able to stay up indefinitely? Knowing the truth. Yeah, I would say knowing knowing the truth and accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior is the ultimate satisfaction Certainty do you guys think the racism is like?
01:03:16
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under the surface or is it is the main part of all of this narrative? I'll ask you that in another I'll ask you that in 10 minutes. Like honestly, they had to make a deal of the devil to throw to overthrow their white oppressors. And they it's like it'll be even by that, Sam, I just mean like the way it's always described is like it's black magic. You know, it's like that savage Caribbean island magic. And I'm like, what does that mean? Like,
01:03:45
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Which they do the same thing with like Native Americans. Exactly. It's this weird foreign like... It's weird. I don't know if this is presumptuous or just this is mostly an uneducated take.
01:04:01
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is that like our understanding of Western history European history is like the colonial history is the majority of the world doesn't it doesn't look like European or white or whatever but like
01:04:19
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the way that they like colonialized everything and the power they had in the area they had was so just so wild that England punch in way above its geographical boundaries honestly impressive like it it it
01:04:34
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yeah it really is uh and it's so like almost all of the history that we understand is quote-unquote relevant to western civilization development is responsible for subjugating people of color so like i don't know what like you go back far enough before racism was the relevant factor before like
Racism and Cultural Narratives
01:05:00
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conservatives love this talking point when it's convenient for them they're like well back in such and such a time slavery didn't have anything to do with race yeah that doesn't mean it didn't change into that like but it's super convenient for them to talk about how like indentured servitude or like
01:05:20
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one country or one nation taking over another and then taking those people as slaves had nothing to do with race because it didn't. Racism wasn't really the issue at the time. It's just tribalism and that's the form that tribalism is now. Right, which evolved into racism as power centralized into white European areas.
01:05:41
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um honestly we're really lucky that like china just didn't get greedy like until a couple thousand years later imagine if white people were the slaves of like asian people like that could have happened that could have that could have happened and like what would that what would how would history have changed would would like would would
01:06:03
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Asians be like the dominant, like not the dominant in the sense of like, but like in the way that the European nations and like the United States have become super like the United States is obviously a world superpower, which doesn't help for white people to think that they like are owed something. This is just the it's I mean, this like idea of like white domination and stuff is really just like the since the age of colonialism really. Right. I mean, like it's like the last like 600 years or something like that.
01:06:33
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Right. Yeah. Because I mean, even even before that, like you go back into the the Dark Ages and stuff. And I mean, it wasn't I mean, it was the Ottomans. It was, you know, the Arab countries. They were, you know, the dominant force in a lot in a huge portion of the world and stuff. So I don't know. It's just there's a big I think that's part of the
01:06:58
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thing that Dan Carlin explores in that series is, and he's done a couple of different things on slavery over the years. Like slavery is an old human institution, but I think like chattel slavery was a different thing. I mean, it was just a, it was a vile institution on a, on a whole different level. And it was just like unbelievably oppressive.
01:07:22
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You know, I mean, there was plenty of slavery before that. There was plenty of really oppressive slavery in different situations and stuff. But like, it's, it's almost kind of like comparing, if I want to venture out on this limb, it's almost like comparing, like you can compare. Genocides of different varieties, right? Like, you know, the, the, the Mongols conquering Beijing.
01:07:45
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And killing like, like 2 million people or whatever it was and just leaving like mountains of charred bones, you know, in their wake, like that's really horrific. And if it was something that was a little more familiar to us and you could actually like visualize it and make sense of it in your head in a way, it would be really horrific. I think like why.
01:08:07
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the Holocaust holds like a particular sway over our culture, other than the fact that it's like recent, is that it kind of mechanized that brutality. It harnessed all these modern institutions and technologies to like create an assembly line of death and horror. And it's bleak on a different level because of that. And I think that's kind of where chattel slavery
01:08:33
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Is is different too. It's that it it it was economies of scale and the way that it was industrialized and and and stuff that made it just Particularly terrible saying white people Innovated and got good at it. And that's what made it bad. Is that what you're saying? I think that's what Charlie Kirk is saying Probably not no, but
01:08:59
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It's it is hilarious to look at like God especially the world that we live in right now, which I mean saving our texts and back and forth today about You know the IDF just recently blew up the Iranian embassy in Damascus did that like earlier today flattened it an embassy
01:09:24
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And mind blowing. I mean, it's fucking you hear it and you just you go that. How can how can that happen?
01:09:33
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Well, it's OK. Biden's going to going to say that he strongly disapproves of your actions. So don't. And then we'll just continue to ship them bombs that can do what they just like that. I mean, wouldn't surprise me if it was like a U.S. sold weapon bomb that that did the damage, you know. Oh, yeah. We he just approved another like I forget it's like eighteen hundred two thousand pound bombs. Yeah. Which no one uses in in like
01:10:00
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Uh, densely populated areas anymore. Except, except Israel. So, but I think like the propensity for, for.
01:10:13
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Westerners and Christians and probably other groups too, to look around the world at like terrible situations, especially ones that we've had a hand in creating, like we've made life worse for these people over and over again, over the years, we've undermined their governments, every attempt that they've had at like, like stable leadership and growth, like we've undermined it because we want our puppet state person in charge, you know,
01:10:41
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To look at that and be like, well, the common denominator here is that there's not enough Christianity in this culture. Yeah. Like that's the factor. Or it's particularly brown, brown or black. It comes into play. Like that's not always said. It's probably hardly ever said, but it's like the irony of like European in Western
01:11:03
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nations like having such a stronghold throughout the world where it's like either it's either Western like industrialization like pretty much raping other countries for their resources or like European colonialism or whatever it's like and then when that is gone when you like push that out and it's like when all that's left is just like just the pieces that were left behind that they're trying to pick up
01:11:32
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and then like a hundred years later they're still struggling and everyone who's like in their 50s is like I don't I mean I don't know all I know is that like America's a Christian nation and like we're doing good and like the European nations are doing good and look at all these other nations not doing good and that these are the ones that practice voodoo these are the ones that do this like they have all these reasons and then you go
01:11:53
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It's also incredibly convenient that the delineation is color and it does I don't think that they're always intentionally gravitating towards that I think a lot of times like the internalized racism is a secondary factor where they're just like as our human brains are stupid sometimes but also just like trying to figure out how the world works you go
01:12:16
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let's make let's establish patterns so you're not looking at the deep history that caused the problems you're just looking at this piece and that piece and that piece and their brains connect these dots and go well look who's doing well and look who's doing bad so I'm gonna find like a quick silly answer for why the world works the way it does because that's what human brains do it's just you look for differences and like when you're when you're constantly trying to validate your view of the world like
01:12:46
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Those are the differences that you come up with. So then the racism creeps in. So like, that's why they don't think they're being like, when you go, that's a racist statement. They go, no, no, no, no, no, it's not. It's an economical statement. It's a it's a religious statement. And but then you look at, like, what areas are mostly Christian and then doing that evangelical or evangelical sense of spreading, trying to spread that message. And it.
01:13:13
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I think that's I mean that's why most people who want to have a good faith conversation about racism will talk about it on like a scale versus the binary or is just like that shit creeps in and
01:13:26
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It's in, it's in me. You gotta go, Oh, let me check that shit. Like, like that function, the way they do, even within America, like black culture is different than white culture. And you might feel uncomfortable around certain things because it's so forward to you, but it doesn't make it.
01:13:45
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And then you have to, and then with an America in our lived experience, you have to incorporate, uh, classism into that and how classism impacts your understanding or like the, the internalized racism. It's obviously a huge full picture, but that's why working in binaries is always a problem, which is what we're seeing with Charlie Kirk and, and the gang. It's even that way with like left wing people too. I mean, like.
01:14:09
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through like projection and stuff you know you like you hear the way that they talk about ethnic groups and stuff and it's in this kind of like patronizing way of like like it's it ranges from like bless their heart to this like performative like actually they're better because of this and that and the you know
01:14:30
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It's this weird just kind of I don't know. There's just a feel to it like like you at the at your core Really think of them as different than it becomes white saviorism on the left, which is a form of racism That's why they get caught in those accidental racist slip-ups here. Yeah where you're like, oh What did you just say like?
01:14:53
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Yeah, and fundamentally, you don't think of them as the same as you. And that's why like that exists in there. You know, I don't know. You're right. Like it's in everybody. You have to constantly check it. And like, sometimes you just have to like, you don't need to participate in other people's cultures or understand it. Like you just need to stay out of the way.
01:15:14
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You know, maybe you don't need to have an opinion on it. It's crazy to not just stay out. You can just let other people live their lives. It's crazy if they were not invading our country at every chance to take it. Our country. That's true. Thank you, Charlie. Oh, yeah. What else does Charlie have to say? OK, you want to get into the real race? That we've always like veiled racism. Let's go for it.
01:15:42
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yeah let's go for the heart and there's a lot of churches there too and it's growing but like haitian voodoo culture is legit like one out of three people in haiti participate and they sacrifice animals and they do like pagan blood rituals don't tell about the old testament it doesn't seem to have worked out for them
01:16:01
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No, I mean, yeah, look, pagan show me a pagan culture that sustainably can survive. And Jesus Christ, there's a reason why the Aztecs are no longer around. Well, that's that's a good point. Can India survive? We'll see. And or is India just on its is it is it exhausting the jet fuel of, you know, English colonial culture? Yeah, exactly. That's a thought crime. Wow.
01:16:29
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Exhausting the jet fuel. We're living, we're living, we're living an extreme day. That's like, that's like raked racism. Like he's not, that's not amateur racism. Like he's playing competitive now. Also, did he accidentally make the jump from like one guy said the Aztecs and then someone said Indians? And he said, yeah, India. Like I don't know if that was intentional or not. I think the guy said, I mean, he said India.
01:16:57
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Is it India? OK. He asked show me a culture, a pagan culture that is like sustainably whatever. And the guy says India, one of the oldest civilizations on the planet, he immediately produced one and he goes, well, you know, or maybe they're just living off the jet fuel of English colonialism.
01:17:15
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Like, but like also, I don't think anyone would describe India as pagan. Would they, unless we're, unless the definition of pagan is not like it is and you nailed it. Okay. I think India as like culturally has a much longer history of spiritualism and faith. It looks very
Global Issues and Economic Challenges
01:17:36
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different than ours. Maybe. I mean, that would fair, but like for thousands of years longer. And I don't know that's, that seems a little rich.
01:17:45
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it is it's funny because like how long can they couldn't they continue could they continue to state that like this any success is in Indian culture in as a or as a country or politically
01:18:03
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are just the result of what the English did as colonialists. India is going to eat our lunch in the next 50 years. Their flourishing is directly related to them getting rid of colonialism. It's not like it's without its problems. I don't know if I would say their flourishing. They're growing very, very rapidly.
01:18:30
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Probably what yeah floor she may be the wrong word I lived with I want to drink out of the Ganges but it's funny cuz like you know they were considered like a caste system and then they're like we're not a caste system anymore but then I when I was living in Boston I worked with a woman and I worked with I lived with she lived with us for a while she was in med school
01:18:49
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in Boston and she was like, yeah, it's interesting because it's like officially no longer a caste system, but it's functionally still a caste system in the sense that like classism exists in this country pretty significantly. But the way it delineates seems a little bit more palpable based on her explanation of it.
01:19:13
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I mean that was ten years ago. I was living not that a lot probably nothing changed There's some really rough stuff there. I mean there's I just recently watched a documentary on I think Al Jazeera about like There's there's like an ethnic group. It's almost like Romani type, you know like similar that's what it reminded me their culture was you know, it was kind of somewhat nomadic and stuff and like definitely treated as
01:19:37
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third class citizens and stuff like there's a lot of dish all of that stuff exists in other countries. Like that's the other thing is like the the irony to have like painting, you know, like other countries, it's almost like the the like noble savage trope that you can just you can paint on to every other country is like, you know, well, they're, you know, obviously, they're so far above this and that and the other and it's like,
01:20:02
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These are people problems that exist everywhere. Because it's much easier to say that the problems with Haiti are voodoo rituals and paganism and a bunch of other things other than they're really poor and they're in a geographically disadvantaged area that keeps getting their infrastructure annihilated and we keep pillaging them for resources after we finish pillaging them for people.
01:20:27
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The reality is a lot more complicated and definitely multifaceted and it's much easier to say like, oh yeah, it's because of the voodoo. Like it's because they're not like us culturally. That's really what he's saying is they don't have our cultural values and that's why they're not in the shape that we're in. Us, a nation that they also think is going down the toilet as fast as humanly possible.
01:20:47
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It's Islamic extremism. It's this siren song mind virus that pulls people away and it's like, no, we've created situations in these countries where it's so hard to just exist economically in some normal capacity. Like most people, they want to have a family and they want to make a living and they want to raise their kids.
01:21:12
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be there for their grandkids and stuff. And like, when you eliminate all of those options, for just a normal, reasonable life, like that, then, yeah, people like turn to where they can find, you know, they can find answers and they want to put a stop to what's going on. Like they do those. It's it's just the same trope over and over again, where it's like, yeah, yeah, if you go in and you bomb a wedding, you've, you've not eliminated terrorism, you've
01:21:41
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You've given other people motivation to like get revenge on you and evict you from their country. You know, the same thing would happen anywhere. You know, I mean.
01:21:52
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It's just so frustrating to just circles with even just like if you turn it to America, they always want to talk about crime statistics and poverty. And it's just like, yeah, no shit. Like if you don't give people enough, they're going to take it like you can get mad at someone for stealing a 50 inch TV from Best Buy. But that TV cost three hundred dollars if it's a TCL, you know, it's like, no, it's like
01:22:18
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It's also ridiculous that you can just like that people can just have that such of a Difficult time affording a TV like something that most of us grew up with like it was no problem I think what taints these people's understanding to people like Charlie Kirk or who you know, whoever any of these media figures, you know is like You've chosen and it's like an extreme
01:22:45
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worldview and viewpoint. You've chosen like this strange direction in your life because you're bored. Like economics is not forcing you to be an extremist like you're in you're in a search for meaning because your life is so easy and it's all laid out in front of you and you're bored. And like they can't help but like paint other people in that light and stuff and it's like no another place I mean, you know, people are going to join Hamas when
01:23:15
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their kids are starving and there's no recourse for them. Right. There's no legitimate path forward. You can't like join a committee. You can't put your name on a ballot in a local election.
01:23:29
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You're not going to wave around your copy of the US Constitution and a copy of the Bible and people's hearts and minds are going to be changed. It's a hierarchy of needs thing. Most of the world is not nearly as far along in the hierarchy of needs to make decisions for the reason that conservative pundits would like you to think they make decisions for.
01:23:49
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They're like you said, Casey, they're dealing with the basic means of survival. And that's not putting down any of them that that's like we have a concept of third world. I don't know. Are there second world countries? You feel like you never talk about second world countries, but certainly we classify places as third world and first world and the Alabama is the second world.
01:24:06
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country. Yeah. That's fair. I mean, debatably the U.S. is in large terms, the U.S. first and second or third, my first and third world. I forget there's been a shift in language even around that. Just always there. Is it am I am I not woke enough saying it that way? I don't even know what it is. I just know that that's I know there's been a shift in language in the old dated language that I'm used to, Sam, but but communicates an idea that we don't say BCE. We say BC before. See, no.
01:24:34
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You say CE baby, you got all the letters. BC BC. We understand that like different countries. Drop the B baby. We understand the different areas of the world. Like they're at a different spot on the hierarchy of needs. Like they're trying to solve different problems. That's really what it is is everybody.
01:24:53
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I mean, I'm taking an overly simplified view here, but everybody is trying to do right by their family and their community and everything. And as those communities merge and grow larger or break down and come into conflict with each other, you know, there's competition over resources, over ideals, over a lot of things, but a lot of it at the end of the day comes down to money, power, safety, security, food, shelter, like some combination
01:25:16
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And then like, sure, religious ideology or political ideology will be in there in the mix at a certain point, for sure. But it's so much more complicated, more nuanced and less easy to put into their easy paint by numbers thing that they want it to be. It's easy for them to sit there podcasting, like smug morons. I mean, we're podcasting, but we know we're idiots.
01:25:40
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For them to sit there podcasting morons, solving the world's problems without having ever had any real jobs or any real suffering, like you said, to compare it to. They have no perspective on anything that's useful in any meaningful way. It's like Tucker Carlson in a Russian grocery store.
01:25:59
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Yo, that video is hilarious. Oh my god, this is one of the greatest things he's ever seen in his life. I'd like to see Tucker Carlson like going around like a Costco in the States. Has he ever done that? I'd love to just be like, Tucker, what's a dozen eggs cost? How much could a banana cost Michael $10? He'd be like, I heard a dozen eggs cost $13 now. And then he'd give you this like 30 minute spiel and how the, the cost of eggs was artificially inflated due to COVID.
01:26:31
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yet supply and demand that's how capitalism works it's uh or how you think it works yeah except yeah that's how they that's what they want you to think until you realize they're putting mrna in the chicken vaxx are there any more uh any more clips no no
Media Figures and Cultural Influence
01:26:49
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that was the end of the magic that's all i think i mean you ended on a high note there uh yeah
01:26:56
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Yeah, I just like it. Crack me up like the name. You know, just point me towards a pagan culture that is sustained. It's over to India. You didn't even finish the sentence. He's just out of Charlie. What's Charlie? Do you know Charlie? Anyone know his background? Like is he like a silver spoon? I mean, he's been a he's been a right wing media pundit for like the last eight years since he was like 22. Yeah. How do you get into that world?
01:27:25
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Yeah, his mom and dad conceived him in an elevator at CPAC. But I don't, I don't know what his breakage, I don't know how he broke into, I, maybe it's just like, I'm looking it up. Not enough. He was Lindsey Graham Squire. Yeah, like, I feel like if you're a young white man saying enough extreme things, you just like are shoehorned into, into that world. Like, is there not enough of them? I'm telling you, the older you get,
01:27:55
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the more you realize that 98% of people are in charge are only there because they just were willing to speak with absolute confidence in the front of the car. I think actually, I think that's kind of what it is. So he was born in Arlington Heights, Illinois. His mother was a mental health counselor. His father was an architect. He was a boy scout. He earned that rank of Eagle Scout. Not as good as a Royal Rangers gold medal of achievement.
01:28:21
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He volunteered for the U.S. Senate campaign of Illinois Republican Mark Kirk. He's not related to him. In his senior year of high school, he created a campaign to revert a price increase for cookies at his school. Oh, that's where it started. Oh, it looks like he got his big break. He wrote an essay for Breitbart News alleging liberal bias in high school textbooks, which led to an appearance on Fox News. God. That's the most unparalleled thing ever.
01:28:50
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And then, so we found it turning point USA. Uh, and then at the 2012 Republican national convention, he may met foster freeze, a prominent Republican donor and persuaded him to finance the organization Kirk.
01:29:06
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briefly attended Harper College, a junior community college near Chicago, but dropped out without having completed any degree or certificate. So he's been CEO, chief fundraiser in the public face of Turning Point. He founded at 18 years old in 2012. I got a degree in conservative values.
01:29:23
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He was an early influencer. He bankrolled at a he wrote an essay and got appearance on Fox Business into meeting some Republican dinners at CPAC and convincing them that, you know, he could be the face of college students, Republican college students. And that was also like I want to know the sexual impropriety came into play. I don't think there's actually been those specific allegations or about anything in his past. I'll start that rumor. Yes.
01:29:51
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that is incredible he literally was just like I wrote an article for Breitbart that made older conservatives dick hard and then I like he just like found his way into getting them to give him money after that to do whatever the fuck he wanted to say whatever the fuck they wanted him to say
01:30:10
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And he in May, 2021, he married Erica Franspy, a podcaster and businesswoman who won Miss Arizona USA in 2012. And then they had a. Your answer was to her final answer to win was that it was pretty dumb. Oh, we should look that up.
01:30:29
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Yeah. I mentioned they're never good. They're never good. Any miss whatever. Dude, when we were at Liberty, they had a Miss USA woman speak at a convo, didn't they? Because she said she was a Christian. I can't remember. No, they absolutely did. Jeremiah, go. You got to figure this one out for us. If I could do one thing for the world, I would buy everyone an Instant Pot. And now I want to be hungry.
01:30:58
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I mean, Sam, that's almost definitely true. Like I was at the NASCAR race, I was at two weeks ago, they had Miss Food City was like congratulating the drivers as they came out. Like I'm not trying to knock anyone who's won a pageant before, but I don't think it's a super exclusive club. Maybe not. Miss USA though, Miss USA runner up visits Liberty Convocation. This is 2009.
01:31:18
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What's the hierarchy of the different misses? Is Miss Universe the top and then Miss USA? I know they're not all affiliated, but is Miss USA and Miss America are two separate things? Which one does Trump run? I don't know. He runs Miss Universe, right?
01:31:34
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I thought it was maybe Miss USA. For some reason- Karie Prejean, Prejean, Prejean, the rating Miss California made a special appearance at Liberty University's Wednesday convocation in a sit-down interview with Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr. who asked her about the bold choice she made to stand up for her faith at the recent Miss USA pageant. This convo was a fucking nightmare to sit through.
01:32:00
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It was, it seared in my brain as one of the cringiest things because what did she do to stand up for her faith? After making it to the top five in the pageant, Pergine was asked a question from guest judge Perez Hilton, a homosexual activist blogger.
01:32:16
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About the beliefs on the topic of legalizing same-sex marriage regime responded with the statement I think that in my country in my family. I think that I believe This sounds like a beauty pageant answer yeah
01:32:35
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I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised, which means that it's not how you think is only how you were raised. You think for your country in your family that you think that you believe that marriage should be, but it's like you are fucking
01:33:12
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proud boys rally or anything. Bring up old Donnie boy here. She's at Liberty fall. Ask Brigida student at San Diego Christian college, how she felt on stage. And I know what they didn't ask her about how appropriate it was for her to be standing in front of all those people in a bikini when those aren't even allowed at Liberty university.
01:33:13
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just unbelievable.
01:33:30
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But that's a different time. Man, you'll never know. She said, as I was standing on that stage, I felt so alone. I felt like I was up against the world. True oppression, she's experiencing. She goes, I saw Donald Trump sitting there in the front row. My family, my friends were nearby. Millions of people were watching it on national television. I was so nervous. They instructed the question to Perez Hilton and then he asked the question. And from there, I just knew
01:34:00
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that I was either going to please man or please God. So you're in this pageant to please man. What is this game you're playing? So Trump was Miss Universe. Sorry, I realized. So but he was there for Miss USA because oh and also Trump was Miss Teen USA, which that checks out. Yeah, that's true. She goes, excuse me.
01:34:25
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Uh, to me, it's scary that we've come to a point in this country where somebody like you is castigated. Wow. That was whatever vocabulary cards for the week. Uh, where someone like you is castigated for supporting the institution of marriage between a man and a woman, something that most Americans support. This is 2009. That is not a time where most Americans were supporting that. I don't think.
01:34:49
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Uh, no, I mean, I would say like maybe the tide was starting to turn slightly, but that's probably not an inaccurate statement. And it just shows all of us what our challenge is in this next generation to turn the country around. We deeply appreciate what you did and for standing up for what you believe Falwell said.
01:35:15
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If they went to that tactic of just like, we're going to convince people that we're right, that would be fine by me. Do that. Don't just try to do some legislative cheat code to enforce your view on everybody else. Yeah, do you just get nostalgic for the culture war nonsense that we were dealing with back in 2009? That almost sounds quaint.
01:35:36
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It's crazy that she got like a 45 minute convocation just because she said marriage in my country, in my family. For me, I think I believe that no offense to anyone who doesn't agree with me. Champion of the faith. Real Columbine moment.
01:35:56
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Real throw-down approach. When the gay put the microphone in my face and said, do you believe? I knew what I had to say. While I wasn't facing down death, I was facing social suicide. Almost as bad. She was having to talk to Perez Hilton. I think society did away with him at some point.
01:36:16
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Yeah. It's the words of Throwdown, the beat down hardcore band. They say, for myself, for my friends, for my family, forever. I think she might be listening to Throwdown, to be honest. I could be. You guys want to hear about Jack Passobiak real quick? Sure. This is about the author's section for his book, The Antifa, Stories from Inside the Black Block.
01:36:46
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It says, Jack Posobiec is a former Navy intelligence officer who specialized in the communist Chinese party and is now a senior editor for Human Events, a leading outlet of populist conservative thought. Jack was previously a correspondent for One America News Network.
01:37:04
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Prusobi X work was directly affect has directly led to Antifa arrests and convictions and has been cited by members of Congress the Senate and the President of the United States, which I would imagine if they yeah, I would imagine if they would if they were arrested for something good they would have cited what it was they're like Antifa arrests for domestic terrorism or something like that. Like he got them on like traffic tickets or whatever. Yeah
01:37:34
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Sobek appeared in court in the trial of an Antifa criminal who attacked him in the street while conducting interviews. In addition to the Antifa, he is author of Citizens for Trump, the inside story of the People's Movement to Take Back America.
01:37:50
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4D warfare, a doctrine for a new generation of politics, as well as co-producer of the blockbuster documentary, Antifa, Rise of the Black Flags, available at AntifaMovie.com. Originally from the Philadelphia area, Jack resides in Washington DC with his wife, Tanya, and the two young sons. This is Jack who's teamed up with Charlie here? Yeah, he's the one that was given the history lesson about how, you know,
01:38:30
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amazing amazing truly amazing so uh yeah well uh if you uh want to do us a solid i i need a volunteer from the audience to just like you you're gonna commit to listening to every episode of thought crime and reporting back to me on the dumbest movements so that i can snip them without having to listen to it myself
01:38:44
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They were doomed from the start because they killed their oppressors.
01:38:59
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And this is a man who drives for his job all the time and he does not want to have to listen to this stupid show. Dude, I listen to so much dumb stuff for this podcast. You do. It's unbelievable. You listen to a lot of dumb shit for this.
01:39:16
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But there's a line. It's my cross to there. At the same time, you are one of those types that is thoroughly at times thoroughly entertained by listening to dumb stuff. That is true. I get very excited when I find something really stupid.
01:39:32
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A big difference between you and I is when I hear things that just grate against my personal beliefs for too long to such an extreme degree, I think about like just crashing my car into the side of the road. The woman pops the fourth blueberry into her mouth.
01:39:53
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It's just triggering. I just want to run over you with my Honda Accord. You're almost not principled enough to be triggered by anything, and that's what I think works. Wow. What type of backhanded compliment is that supposed to be? I think there's something positive in there that I
Reflection on Music and Cultural Debates
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like. I'll take it.
01:40:13
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Sam's like, you should be as principled as me. The man who needs to do my breathing exercises in the grocery store. So I had a falcon punch this woman eating blueberries. To be fair, last time we recorded, as soon as we ended the recording, Casey called me a middle schooler because I went on a tirade about how I feel about cops. So this does go both ways. I just, I bring it out on the recordings more, but he's like, what are you in middle school?
01:40:43
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I did. Come on, a little strong. I'm sorry. It amused me. It amused me. All right, everybody. Well, thank you for listening. Don't forget, we got a Discord. We've had some new members lately and if you got some nice flowers in your yard or if you go through a park. Yeah, that channel's popping off.
01:41:06
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Dude, that's the best channel for sure. It's the best channel. Thank yous of flowers and snakes and whatever bugs people find in the yard. It's fun. It will continue to be the best channel after we establish this like album ranking, uh, program.
01:41:21
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which I don't know if I can participate in. It would be tough. It would if depending on how many people want to get involved, one, it would give me more things to listen to every week that I barely have time for. And then it would it could be it would it would be more eclectic. I think it would be what much more eclectic. Yeah. But if the first album isn't like supernatural by talk, like there's not even any point to getting started.
01:41:47
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I don't know that one by heart. I don't need to listen to that one again. I would venture to guess I'd review that pretty poorly because I didn't listen to DC talk growing up. Or maybe your mind would be blown. Yeah, maybe I would. I don't know of DCM. I still enjoy it.
01:42:05
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I come into this stuff with a very open mind when I'm trying to when I'm if if someone's like you should check out this band and I listen to it and I hear a song and I go nope but if it's like someone drops it for the intent of listening intentionally to review it I take that I take that call seriously I will listen to
01:42:25
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to it very thoroughly, try to pick up on everything going on and what I like, what I don't, what's for me, what's not. Even if it's not for me, why I respect it musically. I try to get pretty- You're a lot better about that. I try to take that seriously. Especially when we have guests on whose music sounds like they dropped a synthesizer down a stairway.
01:42:49
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there without naming names there are times where we've had people on where I've I've laughed a bit I've puffed up what their how I feel about it for the sake of making a solid introduction without personally enjoying it so much I don't know if any of those people listen and maybe we could just
01:43:11
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get into that sometime or join the discord and ask me specifically what I've said nice things about that I actually hated. You know, whose music sucks. That definitely doesn't listen. Derek Webb. And on that note, thank you for listening and we will see you later.