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Podcast Sponsorships Overview

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The American Craftsman Podcast is sponsored by Hayfla. Hayfla offers a wide range of products and solutions for the woodworking and furniture making industries. From hinges and drawer slides to connectors and dowels, sandpaper, wood glue, shop carts, and everything in between. Exclusive product lines such as looks, LED lighting, and Slido door hardware ensure that every project you create is built to last. Learn more at hayfla.com. Additional sponsorship provided by Ridge Carbide.
00:00:28
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When you need the right saw blade for the job, put your trust in Ridge Carbide Tools. For over 50 years, Ridge Carbide has been producing industrial saw blades designed with the exact specifications for the cutting results you expect. Before you buy, call us and we'll help you determine the right tool that meets your needs and your budget.
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After the sale, Rich Carbide provides sharpening services for all your saw blades, dado sets, router bits, and jointer planer knives. Located in Kansas, Rich Carbide Tools provides high quality products with outstanding customer service at a fair price. What are you cutting? Enjoy the show.

Stumpy Nubs' Sponsorship Controversy

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all right ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the podcast still didn't shorten that intro i don't think you're going to probably not i just saw that uh
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I knew that Stumpy Nubs was sponsored by Ridge Carbide, but he really gave him a big plug on his last one. Oh, really? I also saw that I think he has a Harvey table saw there now. He's sponsored by Harvey. Yeah. Okay. Because he used to be, or used to have a saw stop in the shop. Oh, really? Yeah. I watched a video. It was about kickback and, uh, the, was it the one where he's like, it was, he framed it as like a saw stop. So I'm going to save you from kickback.
00:01:54
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It was about a five minute video was posted maybe a week ago. I had a lot of views. I was like, holy cow. I like, I like stumpy knobs. I think he's got some good videos, but I thought that this one was like, how can you make a 30 minute, 30 second video into six minutes? Because it was sort of like, I don't know. It was still common sense. Like I couldn't.
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think of how you could turn that into a long form conversation, but he did a good job. He's got a gift. He's good at that. I mean, it was basically somebody, it wasn't him, but somebody in his shop was cutting something on a, like a 45 degree angle and the, the cutaway shot back. Oh, I did see that. Yeah. That video has been up for awhile. Oh really? Maybe he did like a rehashing of it or something, but
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Maybe because that's where I noticed was the new Harvey table saw because then he went into the fence a little bit.
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Anyway, the main thing I noticed is he gave a really good plug to Ridge Carbide. And I thought, wow, we really need to get on top of them. They need to send me a table saw blade. Yeah. I guess we're no stumpy nubs. Well, I think, well, we aren't, we don't get the views. I think that video had like 95,000 views.
00:03:15
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His videos just feel so formulaic. I feel like every video, if you just drop me into the middle of it, it could be any of his videos. They all just feel the same. I'll agree with that. I'm sure that mine are probably the same way. So when I end up finding his videos is when I want to learn about something, he'll usually come up. Or if I want to kind of
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look at what I'm doing and compare it to somebody else, he may come up. So I think he does a good job. Here I am. He never makes anything though. That's what I was wondering. Does he ever make anything? I don't know what his background is or what his actual business is, if that's his full-time business. I think he has a shop, doesn't he? There's a shop there. I feel like we're going to get some hate on this one. Bring it on.
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All of this being said, I've never seen anything made either. So. See, Stumpy Nubs rubbed me the wrong way when, so Mark Spagnolo, the Wood Whisperer, who I like a lot, he's one of the guys that I still watch, really nice guy, Jersey guy, he's from Hamilton. Super, yeah, super. I didn't know he was from Jersey until just recently. I think he was talking about pizza or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's how like the first time he and I spoke was he mentioned something about like Di Lorenzo's or something. And I was like, yeah, man. I was like,
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We used to go there, Palermo's, blah, blah, blah.
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Where was I going with this? Oh, so he did a video on all these miter gauges and like he had a lot of bad things to say about the Harvey. It was like, didn't work right. And then he had an issue, I think with the customer service. And then Stumpy Nubs does this rebuttal that was like, seemed really shilly, you know, where he was like coming to the defense of his sponsor. Okay. And it was sort of like a defenseless position, you know?
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Yeah. Yeah. I can, I can see that. So I don't know if he was pushed to make that video or he felt compelled to make that video because he was personally felt personally attacked. I don't know, but how long has it been sponsored by Harvey? Well, that video has been out for probably at least a year and a half, two years. So a couple of years. Cause I've seen a lot of influencers, uh, with Harvey tools in the last six months or so.
00:05:39
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Yeah. They sent us a dust collector a couple of years ago. It was, it was okay. I mean, I don't have any big complaints about it. Um, one thing, it doesn't have a, a bin full where if it did, it didn't work like a, like, Hey, your bins getting full. And then the next thing you know, the whole thing is clogged up with dust because, you know, wouldn't tell you.
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Yeah, I I've seen a few people get table saws recently and I don't like the table saw is made of nickel, not steel. It has a nickel plate. Yeah. It's like a golden top or what? Oh no. The new like chrome looking one.
00:06:14
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Yeah, but I think they call it nickel. Yeah. Like you could put a drink down on it and it's not, the sweat isn't going to create an instant rust ring or. So don't put a drink on your table. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't know. I don't, I don't buy a ton of tools. So I don't have the
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Well, I should say I do have a bit of an opinion because I just like nice tools. My feeling is buy less, buy better. You know, buy quality, not quantity.

Tool Preferences and Safety Discussions

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That's why I love that. I love the SawStop. SawStop is so nice. Yeah. And the thing is so smooth. And I love my Powermatic too. I like having both saws in the shop.
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But even if they both had the, um, the safety, I would still go to the saw stop. It's just a, I don't know. It just feels tighter. Yeah. Maybe that's because it's 30 years newer. Yeah. Um, I'm going to get rid of that. You're going to get a saw stop and just keep now I'm just going to go down to one table. So I don't need to anymore.
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You just don't have the space for the Unisaw? Are you going to regret not being able to keep a data stack on one saw? I'm doing less and less of that kind of work, you know? Yeah, but it's not taking up that much extra space. Well, if I'm going to bring a CNC in, I need to free up a lot of space. We still have an outfeed table, so you could just not use it.
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Yeah, but I don't need, that's the thing. I don't need a 52 inch fence. I don't, you know, those both have 52 inch fences. I don't ever need to cut 52 inches. Okay. Yeah. That's like a cross cut saw and that's it. I'll do, you know, I'll do some rips on it now and then, but I have the street big. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that makes sense. I mean, I,
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I just like the, well, I just liked the idea of keeping a dado blade in there, even though you're not going to do it that often. Yeah. I mean, there's definitely times we're going to be like, man, I wish I had that other saw, but 99% of the time I'm either running one or the other, not both of them in tandem. No, I understand that. I just, but you, you used it the other day to make that face frame. Yeah. But to, to put the thing into the, uh, saw stops, not a big deal.
00:08:31
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Don't you have to take the cartridge out to put a dado blade in the saw stop? Uh, yeah, you have to change it out. It sounds like downtime to me. Yeah, but it just doesn't happen all that often, you know? So enough of this woodworking. I hear you bought a bicycle helmet.

Biking and Safety Considerations

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Yeah, I did. I'm excited about that. Yeah. I gotta, I actually, I better look at my bike when I go home. Um, you know what I need to do is I need to put a front brake on it. It only has a coaster brake.
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Wait a minute. Wait. It's not a mountain bike. But wait, you have a coaster brake, meaning you pedal backwards. Holy cow. What is this? Like a Schwinn from 1970. It's a Torquer, Torquer KB2. Pull it up. Wow. So it's a two speed kickback. Holy cow. It's a, it's a pretty cool bike. It's a. Torquer was a big name when I was a kid. Oh really? Torquer was like a cool BMX bike.
00:09:33
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It had a wild frame. It had like two, it didn't have, it had two pipes up top. So it's like a real, oh, Walmart apparently is selling it now. Well, that's a sign of a good brand. It's a real bare bone, 200 bucks. Shit. I paid more than double that. It looks like a nice bike. You got mountain bike handlebars like that too.
00:09:56
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Yeah, this is the exact bike red like this too. Nice. So no brakes aside from the coaster brake, just a real bare bones. It's like almost like a commuter bike, I'd call it. So what do you do? What are you going to go over to? I'd go to the Highlander in Atlantic Highlands. You're going to not put the brakes on yourself. You're going to have somebody do it. I was going to do it myself. You can. One thing I got to see is, yeah, it looks like there is like a place where you can mount it right there.
00:10:21
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That's a real old style break. That's the old shoe breaks that tighten up on the ramp. Yeah. I'm just going to get it working and then I'll probably break the news to my wife that I'll buy a bike. If I, that's, if I, there you go. Yeah. Get the miles in and then ride. Yeah.
00:10:39
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But like I said, you're, you're welcome to try one of my bikes anytime you want. But the problem with that is you're going to be like, holy cow, I don't want to buy, I don't want to peddle a regular bike again. Yeah. I get on my acoustic bike, you know, my analog bike. And I think, what does this thing have a flat tire? Yeah. And this thing with two speeds, like, man, you get to a hill, you're working. Well, around here, you're going to be pretty good until you get to the Sandy Hook bridge.
00:11:06
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Yeah. I used to go over it every morning. Yeah. And by the time you get to the top, you're gassed. Well, that's your only hill and then you're just going to deal with the wind. Yeah. Yeah. Like you, you, um, you couldn't take it in the woods. It's not, it's kind of suspension or anything aside from that, but yeah, you couldn't, you couldn't make it up. Uh, so what's the plan when you're going to ride? Uh, I should, I should be going out tomorrow morning. So you got a light and everything. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Cause it'll be dark.
00:11:37
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And are you going to count your miles on your, uh, on your phone? Yeah. Yeah. Cause I use like the, um, whatever it's called on the Apple watch the fitness app or whatever to, um, you know, so you have these rings, you have three rings, exercise ring, move ring and standing ring. And they give you this dopamine hit when you close all three, it's like, Hey, good job. You closed off. So, you know, if you close those rings, um,
00:12:06
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It's a good like accountability thing and you can see them, you know, they're right there in the bottom middle. So you see my exercise ring is non-existent today. But my move ring is, is, you know, almost three quarter. It's wild how that actually works. That dopamine, you know, like just a, just getting a notification, sends something to your brain and gives you like a momentary, like feeling of euphoria. Yeah. I have, um,
00:12:33
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I have, when I, when I sell a set of plans, it goes to like a different email and I get a notification. It's just like, it's just like a little, like, I don't know. It's like an adrenaline shot. I love selling plans because you don't have to do anything. You just, it's like a done deal. It's like, Oh, you just, congratulations. You, you know, you just sold plans. So, uh, I know that feeling it's like, uh, but that's,
00:12:58
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That's where like today with kids in these phones, I'll see my daughter go up and down, you know, within a spectrum of a couple of minutes. And like, I, I need to like, really enforce the rules with the phone. I mean, she's not allowed to have it. I think I think we take it back at like 10 o'clock at night, which I still think is late, but she doesn't go to bed with a phone in her room. That's I think those things are so toxic.
00:13:25
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Phone. Yeah. Even as an adult, you know, it's it's a lot to try and manage. It is. I mean, I'll get into a place sometimes where I just start like my my son Michael calls a doom scrolling.

Screen Time and Children's Content

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Yeah. And I've gotten much better at not doing that.
00:13:45
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but you can still fall victim to it. It's like, I think the worst one is Facebook. Cause I'll go on to Facebook to just see like, oh, how's this video doing? Like almost like a work related thing is this, what are the analytics on something, right? So I go there with a mission, but as soon as I go on, I see somebody fall off a ladder. I'm like, whoa, look at that. And I'm like, did I look at the next person? And I'm like, then yeah, it's just so toxic. So,
00:14:14
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I know it's there. So now I just tried to avoid it. Yeah. We laid down the law yesterday. So in, in New Jersey today, it's, it's the day after labor day is first day of school. Um, so yesterday we told a hunter or son, we're like, listen, now that school is starting YouTube 30 minutes a day. That's it. Good. Because the stuff that he watches, he watches some good stuff too, but it's just like all these people just,
00:14:42
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It's buffoonery. That's the best way I found to put it. The weirdest thing is when you have the parents.
00:14:49
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orchestrating the funerary of their children. Well, most of what he watches are like adults or young adults. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Just crazy. Yeah. Everything is just so nonsensical. He watches some stuff like this. He watches these people called Wicked Makers, which I really like where they basically make like animatronics and stuff. That's cool. He watches people who make clay art and stuff like that. That's all fine.
00:15:15
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Some of the other stuff is just so stupid. People playing video games and just like, like, this is like not, this is dumb. It really is. And, and, you know, watching something is, is.
00:15:30
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generally a waste of time, that kind of stuff. But then when he gets older and they're just communicating nonstop with friends, whether it's Snapchat or texting, whatever, that's just, that's not healthy. And so my daughter totally tricked me because when I set up the phone, she signed in as an adult, so I can't
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have as much control of her phone. Now what I can do is disinvite her, but then her phone will shut down. And I'm always just looking for good timing to do that because I don't want to start a fire in my house.
00:16:10
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The boys weren't a walk in the park, but they were definitely easier than than my teenage daughter. So, yeah, I just have to kind of kind of figure that one out. And the one thing I did let her know is, you know, it's going to come down to you what you do in life. So she plays tennis and she got something from a school that she would like to go to. She wants to go down south when she eventually goes to college.
00:16:37
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And I said, that's really going to come down to you. It's going to come down to how you play tennis. And so how much time you put into playing tennis, how much time you put into conditioning, and it's going to come down to your grades. If you're not going to do that, then you're not, you know, you're not going to get there. So it seems like.
00:16:54
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It's starting to click, you know, and we'll, you know, I'll know more, uh, when report cards come or like when we get halfway into the year, but the thing is like in everything in life, it's discipline, discipline. Well, that's the Jaco, right? Discipline equals freedom. And so like the boys are all fans of, of Jaco and stuff like that. And so I'll try to say stuff like that to her, but she just sort of laughs me off.
00:17:23
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I'm trying to get her to do something I

Sports and Safety: Jiu-Jitsu vs. Football

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don't do. Uh, but I think it would be good for her and me. Um, what is that? Uh, that sport that, that, uh, that you roll, they call it, you jiu-jitsu. Yeah. The reason why I don't do it is like, I don't want to like bust up my neck or who does that as Brian, the, um, I knew he did that. Yeah.
00:17:51
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Apparently that is just like a great skill to have. Yeah. In case you're getting a street fight. Well, can't you use it in a street fight as well? Yeah. Oh yeah. That's what I'm saying. If you get in a street fight.
00:18:05
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or just just a good thing to have in as a confidence builder. Like my, I feel like it would, it would be just as good for a young woman as it is for a young man, just as a confidence builder. Yeah. It's like my niece, uh, I don't know if she still does it, but she did it. She's only 10.
00:18:21
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My kids for a little while did tiger show, tiger. Shulman's carotid. Yeah. Which I didn't like. I went to the Shaolin Kung Fu temple in Hightstown, New Jersey when I was a kid. How long did you do it for? Uh, not very long, a couple of years. Do you remember any of it?
00:18:39
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No, not at all. I was like, I might have been Hunter's age, I don't know, six, seven. That's where my kids were. And I was just like, I feel like I'm just burning money right now. Oh yeah. It wasn't cheap. And I was like, why are we doing this? Hunter starts soccer this week. So he's got practice on Wednesdays and then games are on Saturday. Does he like it? Yeah. He says he does. When they were five, it was like, you know, good luck keeping five year olds on topic.
00:19:09
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Are you going to do a baseball or tee ball? Um, I don't see what he wants to do. I loved it when the boys were in, in baseball, just because it was sort of like the sign of spring. You'd go to the games over there, uh, over in Atlantic Highlands. It'd be freezing cold when, when the season started and then it, you know, it just got warmer. I liked that game soccer. I didn't enjoy as much.
00:19:34
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Uh, but that's because I, well, I played baseball with them in the, in the backyard. You know, we, we hit the ball. We'd have a catch with the baseball where soccer is, um, that's, that's a lot of running. Yeah. I never played soccer and, uh, I just can't get into it. Yeah. I didn't want to say anything. I can't either, but it's like a huge sport in my, I have family members who love it.
00:20:00
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I went down, I think we might've talked about, I went down to my wife's last game. She plays like adult league. That's impressive. Soccer, yeah. Cause the running, like soccer, basketball, those sports are just full on. Yeah. They had some girls on the team who were like, you know, so my wife is like pushing, well, yeah, she's in her upper thirties. How much does she weigh?
00:20:28
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That's a good question. I have no idea. I have no clue. I'm kidding. But as figures, if you're going into dangerous territory, might as well go all the way. That's funny with women. I had no idea how much women weigh. You know, I couldn't look at a woman and tell you how much she weighs, but a man, I could probably get pretty close. All right. But yeah, like a lot of the women were like of that age, late thirties, early forties. And but then they had some younger girls who were like just out of college, played like D1 soccer. And they're just like,
00:20:58
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mopping the floor. Because they can run. So this one girl scored like five goals. I'm sure. They smoked the other team. It was like nine to nothing or something. Running to me is like the most painful thing. I'll do it occasionally, but I do not enjoy it. And I see people running in the woods.
00:21:16
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They're like, they look like gazelles the way they, they look like they're enjoying every minute of it. And their, their feet are barely touching the ground and they're flying. I'm like, holy cow. That's amazing to me. It's just not me. I'm not into it. I would like, if Hunter got into lacrosse, I think lacrosse is a super fun sport.
00:21:35
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I'll agree with that. I think it's a, I think it's a fun game to watch too. Yeah. It's like, you know, it's more physical than like, you know, you have the, the checking aspect, which is cool, but it's safer than like say football. You're not going to push football. No, that's a huge commitment. I don't think my wife wants him to play football. Just the risks, you know, of concussion and stuff like that. I think there's so much more known about it today.
00:22:04
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Yeah. I had a lot of concussions playing football. Yeah. That's pretty scary. Explains a lot. I don't know if I've had concussions. I probably have been in one or two car accidents. So maybe. Yeah. I had a lot where like I had to go to the neurologist and you know, I would like fall asleep in class because I had like my vision was all messed up.
00:22:28
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One of the guys I ride with, he was telling me something. I saw him in the woods. We weren't riding, but I saw him in the woods last week and he referred to, Oh, that was before the accident. I was like, what are you talking about? He goes, Oh, you didn't know I got in a really bad crash.
00:22:43
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And he explained it to me. He's like how he fell. And he's like, yeah, I like immediately went into convulsions, pissed my pants. I was like, holy shit, man. That's a major crash. He's like, yeah, it was up until about six months ago. I still had to write things down to remember stuff.
00:23:03
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And I was like, I had no idea, but, um, yeah, just, you know, just one wrong turn. Super, super confident rider and somebody he's probably 20 years, at least 20 years younger than me. And like, I don't even try to keep up with him. So it hasn't scared him off the bike, but he probably, Oh, I know it was my son. Jack just took a wipeout. He was up in Killington.
00:23:25
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And I was talking to him about that. He's like, yeah, I just, I don't do those things. And then that went into the, before the accident, because I was saying it's the same thing to him. It was like, I'll ride. And I love going pretty fast and going on adventures, but I keep it on the ground because number one.
00:23:42
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for the two seconds that I'm in the air, I don't even look cool. And number two is if I really enjoy mountain biking so much, I don't want to ruin it all by trying to do a jump. Like who cares? That's my thing. Like I'm not willing to risk my everyday life for my hobbies like that.
00:24:03
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I totally get it. That's why like I bought a helmet just to go out. I'm going on casual. I'm not going in the woods. I'm going to be on a asphalt path, but I'm going to have to cross all those cross streets. And at four o'clock in the morning, if I get hit by a car, I want to make sure that I don't end up dead or brain dead or whatever. Well, you run into a deer. Yeah. That's a big thing. I've seen, when you go out early, you're going to see deer everywhere. And
00:24:29
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I have a nephew whose friend was killed on a motorcycle doing just that, but he was going pretty fast. It doesn't matter though, if you're going 50 or 70, you hit a deer, good chance you're going to get hurt. Yeah. I had a real close call right on Leonardville, maybe about six months ago with a deer in the morning coming here. How'd you avoid it?
00:24:55
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I just braked. Yeah. But never like, never swerve. If you're listening, just never swerve. Hit the deer. Yeah. You know, when you swerve is when you end up killing yourself by hitting a tree. Or some oncoming traffic or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:12
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There's a movie with Nick Nolte. Uh, I forget the name of it, but, uh, it's like the bus driver swerves to miss something and like ends up like killing all the kids in the school bus. You just hit it. And I think they even tell you in the, um,
00:25:29
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in the UPS, like driving school. Like if somebody goes out in front of you, don't try to like swerve into, you know, you just got to deal with it. Break and train. Yeah. Just go straight and break because chances are you're going to get a much worse accident.
00:25:47
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I think my brother-in-law years ago worked for UPS and I believe he told me something exactly like that. Makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. So now we have all the school, uh, like I was coming to the shop this morning and it's 20, got the 25 zone back open. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny cause when I come here, sometimes if I, of course it hasn't been this summer, but last year,
00:26:13
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If I, if I was heading over here at like two 30, I would get caught up. Oh, cause there's like six schools. Yeah. Right on the main street. It's just like, I like, Oh geez. I got to remember not to come over here at this time. So something to, uh, same thing with Atlantic Highlands. Have you've ever gone down? Like I'll run the Jasmine hardware and all of a sudden I realize it's five minutes of three and I'm stuck in the traffic. Cause first Avenue was, yeah, it's all just jammed up. I went to Jasmine on the Sunday.
00:26:43
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I was going to go to Lowe's. I thought of you. I was like, I'm going to go to Jasmine. What'd you get? I just needed some, some nuts and washers. I needed a two gang old workbox, couple outlets. Did anybody help you? Uh, no, but I kind of, when I walk in, I kind of try a non-verbally, make it clear that I don't need any help. All right. Sometimes for like a piece of hardware, it can be helpful. Yeah.
00:27:11
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But I find them to be all super helpful. Yeah. Yeah.

Hardware Shopping Challenges

00:27:15
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So I used to go there more often than I do now. I'm trying to think if... Is there a big price difference? It was actually pretty cheap. Yeah. But I do think that the old workbox I got was kind of crappy. But that's not like... Workbox? Old workbox. You know, like the blue boxes with the tabs, the electrical box.
00:27:36
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Like I cracked the wing on the one, like really easy. Not to say that the ones at Lowe's are great, but could have just been a fluke. Yeah, it's unfortunate because there are some, like you can't buy good tools really at Jaspin Hardware. They have those behind the thing, but... And there's not a lot. I would never buy a tool there. Yeah.
00:28:00
Speaker
But I ended up buying, I think 20 bags of topsoil there yesterday. It was $3 and like 60 cents a bag. That's not too bad. Uh, I just like going there because it's close. Yeah. I was like, why am I going to go to Lowe's for washers and nuts? Oh, I'm trying to find washers and nuts at Lowe's. I don't know. That's a nightmare to me.
00:28:22
Speaker
Yeah. These were like three ACE 18 or something was the pitch. All right. My bed frame. So I built a bed out of cherry and it's a King size bed and I didn't want to use a box spring. So I bought like this metal base basically that it screws into the side. So it has three horizontals and it's got like a
00:28:46
Speaker
a scissor kind of thing in the middle so you can change the length, you know, it's got three legs. So the nuts that hold the height of the legs were made out of like delrin or something. And over the last, we've had it for, you know, say three or four years, they've totally got stripped out and the legs were like,
00:29:07
Speaker
went way down. So the middle of the bed was like this. My back's been jacked up. So I only realized this recently when I had to go under the bed to try and find something. I just thought my back hurt. So the dog puked on the bed. And so I had pulled the mattress off or we had pulled the sheets off and on Sunday, my wife was at work. My son was at my in-laws. I'm like, now's my chance to fix these legs, you know, because I don't want to crawl under the bed.
00:29:37
Speaker
Cause it's only, you know, 10 inches or 12 inches off of the floor. And then you're trying to work under there. So I pulled the mattress off, which weighs like a thousand freaking pounds, king size mattress. And, uh, and finally fix those. My back this morning, it didn't hurt when I woke up. Yeah. That's great. You have a good mattress. Yeah. So we got a new mattress probably six months ago within the last year. It's called the plank. It's like the hardest.
00:30:06
Speaker
mattress you can buy. I like a nice hard. Did it get delivered in a box and unfold and like take its shape? It's a hybrid. So it's memory foam and spring. I don't like the straight memory foam. They're too like squishy. Mine has memory foam and spring as well. Yeah. It's amazing how they can get that into a box. You can never get it back in a box. No.
00:30:27
Speaker
No. Yeah. Like wrestling that thing around was hard. And the ceilings in my room are pretty low. They're like maybe seven foot six because they furred the ceiling down and put like the, you know, those 12 by 24 ceiling tiles that are like tongue and groove. They put those in there. Will you ever sheetrock over that? Or would you take it down? I would have to take it down and there's plaster and lath above it. So you wouldn't just want to lose a quarter of an inch. You just go over it.
00:30:58
Speaker
Well, quarter inch sheetrock is going to telegraph all the wackiness through, you know, I did that because I had those weird, uh, I had those weird tiles, but they were only about a half of an inch. My ceilings in the bedrooms are like maybe just under eight. Like I can touch the ceiling. Oh no, I know. Like without like really, I'm sure. Okay. Yeah. Now these, these aren't, um, the ceilings aren't that short, but on the,
00:31:29
Speaker
on two of the bedrooms in the house years ago, I just went over them with quarter inch and you can't see anything. And then I, and then when I got to the edges, I just crowned it so I didn't have to tape in the edge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right now I have like, so whoever, I don't know if it was the last guy that owned the house or the guy before, but
00:31:49
Speaker
It's used all this like L aluminum L and all these hex head freaking screws everywhere. So that's like what's holding the ceiling up. So they put paneling on the walls over the glass or lath, like just like this, but it's like a white, like a, like a whitewashed wood look in our bedroom.
00:32:08
Speaker
And then there's that L channel with the hex head screws and that's holding up the ceiling. It's just crazy. So I went to change out the outlet and same thing. It's a metal box, face screwed with those hex head screws, but those are behind the paneling. So I had to cut out the paneling to take it out. Then the opening is too big for the old workbox. It's just everything I do there is a nightmare.
00:32:32
Speaker
Yeah, my house is a little bit of work too. The guy who built the house I think did everything right and the second owner did everything wrong. And I've mentioned that the second owner was a surgeon and he was also a woodworker, like in his later life.
00:32:53
Speaker
But everything he did was just so like, like half ass. I'm sure people will say that about me too. Everybody says that about the owner, the prior owner, I think. Yeah. Well, but when, when you're working with prior half ass work, you end up phoning it in because you get so frustrated that, so now my, I put in, so it was a single gang. I put in a two gang. It's behind, like we have a chaise lounge and that's where everything gets plugged in. So like my son's got the tablet plugged in. It's got a six foot cord. It's going over here.
00:33:22
Speaker
So it's constantly getting like the chase lounge getting like slammed into all these plugs. So I change it from a single gang to a two gang and it's all out level. And I'm like, there's nothing I could do. Like I'm just... It's fine. So what you'd have to eventually do to the house is just got to rip everything out. Room by room. Yeah. Like I did with the kitchen. Yeah. That's really a satisfying thing to do because then you're just down to the studs. It's so nice. My
00:33:49
Speaker
The things in my house that bothered me is he had an electrician in there do questionable things. And so I slowly but surely kind of getting things done, redone. The first owner, he did some things good. So there's a big piece of steel in the house, which gives us a lot more headroom in the basement.

Home Maintenance and Construction Insights

00:34:12
Speaker
uh, the way he positioned the house with French drains, drains. So the water drains away from the house. Yeah. That's huge. Like you just don't, when you're, maybe when you're young, you don't know. I don't, maybe you do, but I didn't really realize how important these decisions decisions were. Um, but just having all the water
00:34:35
Speaker
in the property drain away from the house having two foot soffits. Two foot soffits are great. They just, you know, they just keep the weather off the house and it's a brick house. I never thought I'd be in a brick house as a kid. I was like, I don't know. It just didn't appeal to me. But when we were looking for a house, this house was available.
00:34:53
Speaker
they had a barn in the backyard. I was like, okay, let's fix up the barn. We can live here and see how it goes. And, you know, 30 years later, 20, maybe 28 years later, whatever, we're still there. And aside from a few, I know the one thing is like if the original owner had made the bedrooms like two feet, two feet bigger,
00:35:16
Speaker
you know, all around, uh, that would have made a big, big difference. Um, but you know, the, you could look at as every, as it's less, less house to clean, you know, the kitchen's kind of small, but as we get older and the kids eventually moving out, it's like, we don't have to downsize. Yeah. We, we do have our washroom in the basement.
00:35:41
Speaker
And eventually I might want to move that upstairs, uh, like maybe even in the garage. I can do that. I think I can, I think I can work that out with the plumbing because the washroom goes out to a great, a gray water tank and the bathrooms go out to a septic tank. So these are the, uh, these are the things. But yeah, I can't complain. I, I'm, I'm pretty happy with it except for a few little things.
00:36:10
Speaker
having water in the basement is the worst. Water's tough. We bought the house, you know, knowing that, I mean, we're on the dry side.
00:36:18
Speaker
But knowing that there was potential to get water in the basement, but then it took a year, maybe more until we, you know, we had times where there was like wet little wet areas in the basement, small puddles coming in through like the Bilko door, you know, the door itself, but the walls. Um, and we have a perimeter drain, but man, that first time when we had like inches of water in the basement, it was like, holy shit, this is, this is bad. Do you have a sump pump in there? Yeah. Is it working?
00:36:48
Speaker
Yeah, but if the power goes out, you're screwed. Yeah. You have a generator.
00:36:53
Speaker
I have a, uh, I have a gas power generator. Most of my neighbors have natural gas generators. Yeah. That's a huge investment. Oh yeah. You're talking just 10 grand just for the unit. And then you have to get on a maintenance program because that, that generator has to cycle. I think I agree. Yeah. Once a week. And like my neighbor who has the, uh, the natural gas generator, it didn't work last time. And so I've got this Briggs and Stratton.
00:37:22
Speaker
And you know what I do now, I used to use stable, but now I've gotten in the habit of. I'll run, I'll run the gas out.
00:37:33
Speaker
And then I'll run true fuel. I'll run, you know, whatever, a couple of ounces of true fuel through the, through the motor and let it just completely run out. And then, um, and then I've had really good luck with, without having any problems with the gas going bad in the, in the carburetor. Cause that sounds expensive, right? True. $24 a gallon. It's ridiculous. But so I don't really use it to run the generator. I use it to season the generator.
00:38:04
Speaker
I, the reason why I switched over is I haven't had an issue with any of my gas powered machines, like my lawnmower, chainsaw, things like that.
00:38:15
Speaker
but my snowblower wouldn't start. And it was just bad gas in the carb. And they make the carburetor on the snowblower so difficult to get to. So now I just like forget it. I'm going to, so I did have stable in it, but the gas still went bad. So now I do the same thing. I run a little bit of, I'll run the thing out with gasoline after I'm using it. I'll siphon the gas out.
00:38:45
Speaker
And then I have like a tank that I call, you know, gas for burning. And I'll use that to start like bonfires and stuff like that. Of course, you got to be careful. You can have a gas explosion. But the true fuel seems to really do the job because there's no ethanol in it. Right. But it is expensive. Yeah, that's like six times. Having having a snowblower
00:39:12
Speaker
And it not starting during a snow storm is a frustrating experience. Yeah. Well, my thought with the generator, it's like what happens is the, some pump will go out in the middle of the night or the, uh, sorry, the power will go out in the middle of the night. I have no idea that the power went out. I'm sleeping. So even if I had a generator, you wake up and then the basin is full of water. Yeah. There's, there's something to be said that, well,
00:39:37
Speaker
For me, I need it because we have oil heat. So if we don't have, we don't, we have oil heat and we have a well. So we don't have a generator. We don't have heat or water. Yeah, you lose prime on the well. So, uh,
00:39:52
Speaker
So that was the main, that was the main thing, but this little generator runs two refrigerators, a microwave, one or two lights, the well pump and the furnace. So as long as you can get that generator started, you know, so if I'm not around, the kids have like a video instruction on how to do it, but luckily they haven't, I've always been around.
00:40:14
Speaker
What are you keeping the garage? I do. Yeah. How long does it run? Like, I don't run in the garage. I pull it out. But I mean, like, let's say you fill it up with gas. It probably holds what, like two gallons of gas, three gallons of gas.
00:40:26
Speaker
Something like that. It runs a long time, like all day or, uh, probably four or five hours. So you have to have gas, but I always have gas because I've got lawnmowers. Yeah. Yeah. The lawnmower. And if I had to, I could, um, I guess I could siphon gas out of the lawnmower. But the trick with having gas around is just keep the tanks full, less oxygen gets into the tanks. And I don't know. I don't, I don't run into a problem with having
00:40:56
Speaker
I guess the season. So I'll use my lawnmower into December and I'll start using my lawnmower again in March for leaf cleanups, but leaf cleanups in December and just yard cleanups aerating, you know, things like that. Well, there's my reminder for the recycling already did it. Um, what are you working on? So right now I'm, I'm just working a little bit on my own kitchen, wrapping up that.
00:41:25
Speaker
that cherry cabinet's going to go out this week on Friday. Nice. Um, and I'm just bidding a ton of stuff. I got like another two or three things today came in. I got a big, big bank. Nice. Another bank. Trund, three trundle beds. Um, I got a kitchen drawing that I've been putting off. Anything local? Uh, the kitchens in Highlands.
00:41:50
Speaker
The Toronto beds are in New York somewhere. The one bank cats in the city somewhere. The other one is Ridgewood, I think. So only one job local. Yeah. It's nice when it's local. Yeah. If you are not, if when you get hooked up with these builders around here, it'll be nice to just focus on only driving into Rumson or Fairhaven. There's plenty of work over there. That's for sure. I know. It's crazy.
00:42:20
Speaker
Yeah, we've done such, uh, so few jobs and in the immediate area. Do you ever try marketing to builders? No, not particularly. It's like a lot of work and you don't really know. Yeah. A lot of times they just want to leave as much meat on the bone for themselves as possible. You know, they're greedy.
00:42:41
Speaker
Sure. But I want to do a kitchen specific marketing campaign. So I'm going to talk to my mother-in-law. She's in marketing. So I need to get some guidance from her as to what, what sells, you know, what do I need to do? Is it, is it a Instagram post that's static pictures or videos or is it? She knows this.

Outdoor Projects and Maintenance

00:43:03
Speaker
Oh yeah. Yeah. She's in, you know, she does marketing for a large real estate company. So that's good. Yeah. That's good. That's going to be good information.
00:43:12
Speaker
Yeah. If you could get hooked up with that, then that would be, um, I mean, that would be great for, for both you and also the channel, just for all the new stuff that's going on. Yeah. Yeah. Had, uh, Matt and Tyler, I think from BSE popped in right before we recorded today. Yeah. Nice guys. So they're, you know, they're, they were just in the neighborhood wanting to see the shop. I wonder where, wonder what, I wonder where they were, but they were in the neighborhood. Yeah. I don't know.
00:43:41
Speaker
I was wondering if they were timber, but probably not. No. Well, I mean, maybe, but I don't, I doubt it, but. Have you put down the grass sheet in your yard? No. Are you gonna?
00:43:54
Speaker
Yeah. I should really need to. Um, I have spots, like some spots that, uh, like where I cut up, cut out these two are providing and like, I'll rough those up and put the seed down. But I think I'm just going to spray and pray, you know, just put it up, put it down and keep it wet. Just keep it wet and put down the starter fertilizer. You're not going to use that whole bag.
00:44:17
Speaker
No, that's a lot of seed, right? Yeah. So use what you need, then bring it back because I'm going to use it. The next time I come here, I'll take that because I'm probably going to seed next, I don't know, probably this time next week. I seeded a little bit, but I seeded the dense shade. So the stuff that you have is Black Beauty Ultra. And, you know, as long as you, as long as you keep it wet, it should come in.
00:44:48
Speaker
I mean, the other thing too is you could, what you could do, you really want to get some work in. Um, you could put the seed down or what you, you could go over an area or lawn with a couple of bags of topsoil, cut them open and then just rake it around. So you have like a thin layer of topsoil that would be easier maybe than trying to aerate your yard.
00:45:13
Speaker
Yeah, because it's just like stone and rock. Well, that's in the back. But I mean, the front's not. But I have a lot of like undulation. You know, there's definitely spots that need to be like leveled out. But I just I don't think I'm bigger fish to fry. Yeah.
00:45:29
Speaker
Yeah. The only, what I like about doing that kind of work though, is you can kind of turn your brain off and just get something done. Yeah. I like that. That's what I did all day yesterday was not all day, but a couple of hours. I leveled out something, got some top, top soil, trying to create a berm.
00:45:51
Speaker
to bring the water to a different part of the yard, you know, just to try to control the water. And I had all that, I had all that kind of rough dirt that I excavated out for the outdoor shower. I'm going to put a video up on the outdoor shower on my channel for next Sunday. I think maybe some people will be interested in that. It's great. I can't believe
00:46:17
Speaker
It took me 25 years to finally take a dry well and, and put this thing in, you know, it's just, uh, before, because we have like this, like kind of like little courtyard area, which is pretty private. So you can, you know, the kids just always take, take showers in their boxers and, um, or you can wear bathing suit or boxes, but it's not walled off.
00:46:40
Speaker
And the water would just kind of sit on that stone and it would eventually drain. But if everybody, if a lot of people are taking showers, then it would start to puddle up. Then if you're doing the ice bath and you're emptying the ice bath occasionally, then that would puddle up. And then that would lead to algae and discoloration of the stone.
00:46:59
Speaker
So finally, I put in this dry well and power washed all the stone. And it's great because the water just is gone. And it's also really nice standing on the wood frame. And I used a half inch spacer. So, you know, when you space the boards, instead of the boards being like an eighth of an inch apart or whatever, I used a full
00:47:27
Speaker
half inch. And I couldn't get over how expensive the stainless steel screws, box of stainless steel screws was like, I think $22. You ever buy a box of stainless steel brad nails? Like 80 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. I did buy a two inch. I have them. They are expensive.
00:47:48
Speaker
And you can find them like on Amazon cheap, but I wouldn't trust those not for something that, you know, we used to do a lot of, you know, a sec and stuff outside. So if you use regular nails, you're just going to have rust. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I bought some, I bought two inch. I have one pack of two inch stainless steel nails that I used for, um,
00:48:14
Speaker
I think I was wondering, do I need inch and a quarter or, you know, or inch and a half or two inch? And I ended up just figuring which one did I really need. And I'm just going to use the long ones for everything. And that was originally for doing some work around the barn and I think a lamppost. And now I just have that little box and, uh, yeah, it's like a box of like 5,000. It's going to take you your whole life to go through. It is. Yeah. Totally didn't need that many. Yeah. They should just sell them in like, I don't know, like 10 racks or something.
00:48:44
Speaker
Well, you can buy them like that at Jasmine, but not stainless. You can buy, you know, you buy like a little box at Jasmine. I know everybody over there at Jasmine, they're like, they're just the nicest people. I really like Matt and Brian. They're like these guys who are probably your age, maybe a little bit older.
00:49:05
Speaker
but just like, you know, just always say hi. You know, if you ask them where, where stuff is the list, they'll know exactly where it is. But that's where I bought that true fuel. It's the same exact price though at Jasmine as it is at Lowe's. That's good to know.
00:49:21
Speaker
Yeah. I end up Lowe's is like where I typically go. You know, it's the thing I like about Lowe's is like, they're open at six o'clock in the morning. That's true. So I'm up at four. If I need to do something on like a Saturday, if it's, you know, it's one thing if it's the shop, I need to do something on a Saturday. I want to get to the place, buy the stuff and be back at my house by whatever nine o'clock at the latest. Yeah. I don't think they open until eight or nine.
00:49:48
Speaker
They don't. They open at eight and they close at six. I think they're open till one or two. I think they're open till one on Sundays.
00:49:57
Speaker
That's always convenient because you can like run down there and grab something if you need it. Um, if, if I need something from Lowe's, you're right. The nice thing is the later hours. So I'd never go there early in the morning, but I will go there like after dinner. I'll feel like, okay, I'm not going to get anything else done tonight. If I hit the ground running tomorrow because I've already got the materials, I'm like way ahead of the game.

Health and Entertainment Preferences

00:50:20
Speaker
So that is a huge plus. I'm not going anywhere after dinner.
00:50:25
Speaker
other than to sleep. Yeah. Well, when you get up at four o'clock in the morning. Yeah, that's true. I slept in till, uh, uh, must've been seven 30 or something on Sunday or Monday.
00:50:41
Speaker
Did you have a few drinks the night before? No. You know what it was? We watched, so my son had a sleepover at my in-laws. So my wife and I watched Civil War. I think we were talking about that. I wanted to watch it. So we finally watched it. It was good. And she got me these, they're called smart sweets. It's like a sugar-free candy. They used to be something that you could eat on keto, but they changed the formulation. So now it doesn't have sugar, but it's got something that's basically sugar.
00:51:07
Speaker
So I ate these two packs of it and I, it was like, I felt horrible all day. It was like, I had like a terrible hangover. Wow. Um, yeah. So I slept till about seven 30 and then I had a really hard time falling asleep that night because my, at my hours were off by, you know, three and a half hours. You know, who was in civil war? Um, did you see narcos?
00:51:34
Speaker
the guy who played Pablo Escobar. Yeah. Yeah. He's one of the main characters. What is civil war about? Is that a recent? Oh, that's the one. That's the one that's like a modern day. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Uh, maybe like a year old, not even. Okay. Um, so it's about like a civil war that breaks out in the United States, but it's really, that's like the overarching, um,
00:52:00
Speaker
backdrop, but then it's really about their, their wartime journalists. So the main character is this woman. She was, she played the woman in Spider-Man. Wait, is that, what the hell's her name? Spider-Man or Wonder Woman? Spider-Man, Civil War movie. Can't think of her name.
00:52:22
Speaker
Oh, Kirsten Dunst. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wagner Mora is the guy from Narcos. Nick Offerman's in it. He plays president, but he's sort of just like in a couple of scenes. But so they're wartime journalists and they're trying to get to DC to interview the president because the secessionists are like closing in on him. They want to get this last interview.
00:52:47
Speaker
with the president before he's potentially going to get killed or overthrown or whatever. And then this young journalist, she's a photographer. He drives and whatever. I guess he's more like the director. Kirsten Dunst is the photographer. Sorry, I got on the piece. She's a photographer and she meets this young photographer. And next thing you know, she's tagging along with them from New York to DC. And she's sort of learning the ropes of how to stomach this whole
00:53:17
Speaker
Kirsten Dunst has been a wartime photographer, so she's having flashbacks of, in Africa, a dude getting lit on fire alive and she just has to take the picture, you know what I mean? So that's like the real storyline is about being a wartime photographer and you're just there to document and yeah, so it's pretty crazy. Good movie? Yeah, it was good.
00:53:47
Speaker
I was talking to my buddy about it. The whole movie is very ambiguous. I think because we're living in times where it seems very feasible.
00:54:00
Speaker
that this whole thing could actually happen. So they were very ambiguous as to who was who and what you didn't. You couldn't tell what side was water. That's unusual for Hollywood because they usually lean one way. I find I find like Hollywood to always be very left leaning. Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
00:54:23
Speaker
Yeah. So sometimes, I don't know. I look at some things. I'm like, well, what's the message here? And so like, maybe I'll look at that. I might look at it, but I'll be interested to see if I see it with different eyes. Yeah, it was good. And it's for rent. It's only like five 99. Oh, that makes my budget. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. I can't pay $20 or $25 to rent.
00:54:45
Speaker
No, we saw that, uh, we saw that movie with, um, Kevin Costner, the new one, the new Western, and it was only five 99 a horizon. And it actually is like, uh, it's like, it's a two parter. So when it finishes, you're like, what?
00:55:05
Speaker
Which is OK if you're sort of sitting in your pajamas or your house watching it. But if you go to a theater and you've just spent all this money and now it's three and a half hours or however long the video is, you're like massive cliffhanger. Yeah, like really? Now I got to wait another. And then I could be wrong about this, but I I think they might be kind of holding off on the second to see to sort of gauge how well did it do. And I don't think it did that well. And I think that there's a little bit of a rivalry between him
00:55:34
Speaker
and the guy who's done Yellowstone. So it's kind of funny. I feel, I feel like the guy who was doing Yellowstone, he and Kevin Costner, I heard an interview with him. I forget his net Sheraton something. I heard an interview with him on Rogan and, uh, it sounds sounded to me like they just didn't see eye to eye on things. I've never watched it.
00:56:00
Speaker
Well, there's Yellowstone, which in my view is like a drama and it's kind of like a soap opera with violence and nudity. I didn't really care for it that much. There's the other two that are, I think it's 1917 or something and 1829. Those are actually like,
00:56:26
Speaker
real stories, prequels, stories about like, yeah, they are prequels to Yellowstone, but they're they're sort of the stories of settling the West and how they ended up getting this land where where Yellowstone takes place. Those shows are really, really good. Those are those I would recommend to anyone because a great storyline, great acting like my brother Jim loves Yellowstone. I watch it and I'm like, OK, this is kind of like a soap opera.
00:56:56
Speaker
Yeah. I find a lot of TV is very predictable. I'm like, I don't know. You like, like long movies, like heady kind of like. Well, I really liked, I like a really good series. Like I thought Ozark was really good. Yeah. I didn't finish that. I did like it though. So I like a good story. Um, good acting. I thought, uh, Breaking Bad was good.
00:57:22
Speaker
You know, I like funny stuff too. Like I'll watch, uh, I haven't watched the third season or the last season of the boys. Have you watched any of the boys? No, I've heard that's good though. It's pretty good. It's pretty dark. It can be funny cause it's kind of crazy. Uh, so I dunno, I, um,
00:57:42
Speaker
you know, I'll watch anything I'll watch. I love silly, stupid stuff too. Like stepbrothers, like one of my favorite movies. Yeah. I like that stuff too. But I feel like a lot of people like these like really fluffy drama kind of like, where it's just like, uh, you know, it's the same script, just changed the characters and location. It's been made a thousand times, you know, I don't know. Yeah. If you could think of one, I could probably, I could probably agree because if I feel like I'm sort of wasting my time,
00:58:08
Speaker
and I'm not really learning anything or being truly entertained, then I'm like, well, what is this? You know, it's kind of, but if, if it's like a good entertaining show, I'll, I'll, I'll give it my time because that's a way to take a break. If I'm sitting in front of the computer, if I'm like watching YouTube, I end up watching like work related type stuff. Um, not always, but
00:58:33
Speaker
It's just easier to. Yeah. I don't watch. I don't watch any woodworking. I watch your videos. That's about it. I don't watch any YouTube like woodworking hardly ever.
00:58:46
Speaker
Do you watch things to like help you like tackle projects around the house, things like that? Uh, yeah. Like if I have to do something all, but that's different. That's, that's a different part of my day. That's a different goal. You know, like if I'm, I, I, I don't watch like TV. Like when I sit in bed before I go to sleep, I'll watch YouTube. Um, like a lot of most people watch TV, but I'm watching YouTube, but none of it is Woodwork related at that point.
00:59:14
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If I need to watch a video about something that I need to learn, like that's happening at a different part of the day, you know? Yeah, I hear that. I kind of feel the same way, but sometimes I like to, it's almost like going shopping for your materials the night before. Yeah. So like, I'll be like, okay, I want to do this tomorrow, but maybe I'll take a look at how two or three other guys did it before I do it. And sometimes that can be really, you know, really helpful. Yeah.
00:59:42
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But yeah, there's like a few things I do watch on YouTube that are completely not woodworking related at all. Like I watch this guy, I watch a lot of Vermont things, I think because I'd really like to be up there one day. You know, and it's one of those things like you want what you don't have. You ever hear that? Which is kind of a stupid thing.
01:00:03
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But there's this guy up there who's like a duck farmer. And it's just kind of I'll watch that from time to time just to see what's going on there.

Rural Living and Storytelling Adventures

01:00:15
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Yeah, it's that reminds me of have you ever heard of
01:00:20
Speaker
Oh no, it's not, uh, not don't know mind. It's, um, if only mind, did we hear that? If only it's like, that's like every, a lot of people have that. Like anybody can have it. If I'm like, you know, like I'd be happy if only, you know, I had this car, be happy. I've only had this new table saw, which brings me to, uh, another question. Have you ever heard of Joe Frank? That sounds familiar, but
01:00:47
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I've been subliminally putting Joe Frank in front of you. You know how?
01:00:55
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When I upload our videos, because my computer will fall asleep, I put on a Joe Frank video. So if you go into the backend of YouTube, they'll come right up there. Oh really? Usually I see like Mozart. Yeah, that's another long video. So I've been putting Joe Frank up thinking like, I wonder if Jeff's ever going to check this out. Like wondering what the hell is this? Usually I'm only on the studio app on my phone for the most part.
01:01:24
Speaker
Joe Frank is a, if anybody knows who's Joe Frank is, leave a comment on one of our videos. He was a DJ out of California, some of the coolest like theater of the mind radio. Like I tried to get Rob to listen to it once. I think I even sent you a link once. And I always think like, if anybody likes this stuff, there'll be like a connection because it's like, you gotta be,
01:01:53
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It's like, it's almost like, um, I don't know. There's just a connection. You go into your own world when you listen to Joe Frank and people who do like Joe Frank are like diehard Joe Frank fans. He's passed away. I think maybe two or three years ago. Yeah. It's like a great thing. If you're driving somewhere or, uh, or if you're cleaning the shop, but you're going to be like, what the hell is this music or it's
01:02:17
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So he, he would just tell it. He wouldn't tell a narration. He would tell a story. Um, that it was completely farcical, uh, make this whole thing up, have actors. Uh, do you know the actor? Um, Oh, shit. I can't remember his name now, but did you watch.
01:02:36
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Did you watch Arrested Development? That's a great show. I've seen it. Yeah. Okay. So there's an actor in there who plays Tobias on Arrested Development. Yeah. Yeah. I know. What's his name? David Cross. I can't believe you can remember his name, but you barely even saw the show. Yeah. Yeah. That's his name, David Cross. So David Cross has won it. He's not on all the shows, but he
01:03:00
Speaker
He was in one of the actors on some of the episodes of Joe Frank's radio show. It's cool stuff, but he would also have Jack Cornfield. You know who Jack Cornfield is? He's like a yogi kind of guy.
01:03:19
Speaker
Joe Frank would weave in these talks that Jack Cornfield would give during his show. So Joe Frank might be talking about something completely unrelated or somewhat related, and then this music would still be going, but then Jack Cornfield would come in and give this little
01:03:45
Speaker
thing. It's just, it's like, you can't explain it, but if you listen to it, you're going to be like, this sucks. Or you're going to be like, wow, this is really good. I like kind of weird stuff like that. Let me pull it up on my Amazon music. I'll put it on. I don't know if you can listen to it on Amazon music. Sorry. It's just started playing. Go break. I listen to him now on YouTube or you have to buy a subscription. Really?
01:04:15
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And there's only maybe 20 episodes on YouTube. If you're going to try it, the voice in your head or tribute to. Yeah. If you're going to try it, I would try maybe bitter pills, a good one to check out. You know, that's like a 57 minute long thing. You'll be like, wow, this is pretty, I mean, you've heard some of the weird stuff I got going on in there.
01:04:40
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Yeah. I think you're going to really like it. The only thing is you might find yourself wanting to listen to it and not get, get worked on. So like if you're painting, if you're doing something like that, but yeah, I'd be, I'd be really curious to see if anybody has ever heard of it because it's a very, very small community of a totally from what the nineties. Yeah. I would say it ended in the mid two thousands, probably started in the early nineties.
01:05:09
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I started to listen to him on a radio station called WFMU. You might, I think Rob was familiar with WFMU. Is it Fordham? Yeah. Yeah. So he would be simulcast on that, but he was out of, um, like I said, he was out of KCRW and, um, in California. Really far out stuff though. We're checking out. Yeah. I like, I like weird. I like far out movies too. You know, the weirder, the better.
01:05:39
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I, I, I think you're really going to like his voice. It's really like, I can't get anybody in my family to check it out. Oh yeah. That's like the movies I want to watch. My wife wants nothing to do with it. I can't even get my sons into the Joe Franks. Maybe Walter. I can see maybe Walter like, you know, yeah, this is pretty good. Check it out. What was the one? I would try bitter pill. Bitter pill.
01:06:10
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That one, he's having a conversation with this guy who's an actor, Larry Block. And it's all fictional. It's all fictional.
01:06:33
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got it queued up. You got this would be great. We can talk about Joe Frank the whole next episode. Yeah. It's when I was, um, when in the early days, when we started the gallery, I met a guy who did our website and he worked for me a little bit in the studio and I got him into Joe Frank and I he's probably your age now.
01:06:57
Speaker
He just went deep on it and he was like a computer guy, so he would burn everything. So he had this whole collection, like of everything Joe Frank had ever done. And so I have a lot of CDs, but now I don't have anywhere to play CD. Yeah. I can listen to it on my bike ride, although I might get distracted. You could. You'd actually be pretty cool to listen to on your bike ride. But can you listen to YouTube on your, on your phone without using a lot of data? Um,
01:07:28
Speaker
It doesn't matter these days. I guess it doesn't matter. I have unlimited data anyway, but it will throttle you at a certain point. Yeah. Check it out. The water went down the wrong tube. So anyway, we just shot a video come out on, uh, Saturday morning, eight 30, basically just talking about tools. Kind of a fun conversation. If you're having a cup of coffee and you just want to
01:07:53
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learn about some cool tools from Jeff and some tools that have been around forever for me. I think it was good. We have, I mean, we haven't done a video like that in a while. We did a couple like that with, uh, you me and Rob talking about router bits and, uh, did a couple other ones like that. I think people liked them. I will. I like to watch videos like that. So you never know what anybody's going to like. Yeah, it's hard to tell.
01:08:20
Speaker
So yes, we got that coming out. Hopefully we'll have, you will have watched the video on Wednesday. Yeah, that'll come out. Um, and yeah, that's what we got going on. I'm going to start a project. Um, I think I'm going to, I'm thinking I'm going to just do a frame project this week. I'll be lucky if I get it done.
01:08:43
Speaker
I'm going to put one of those stars in the back wall where I have my, where I have all my screws. It's like a cabinet screw. I'm going to replace that with like an aluminum star painting. Oh, that's cool. So the MDF, the quarter inch MDF that you gave me for Walter to make that jig, there was leftover. So I'm going to use that. I'm going to build a frame out of plywood and skin it with that. And it's just going to get painted white.
01:09:08
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And I'll be interested to see how it changes up the backdrop of the videos, because that's always like the... That's like where the Capex is, right? Yeah. It's right behind the Capex. So it's going to be a 36 inch painting with a lot of color. So maybe we'll see how it looks. I figured change it up a bit.
01:09:29
Speaker
Yeah, I like having stuff, you know, like I like the banners and stuff like that. It looks, looks nice having some color and not just all tools, you know? The banners look good in the shop. Yeah. That Enduro is a big banner. Yeah. All right. I'm ready. Yeah. Time to go. I gotta go see how first day of school went. That's fun. Yeah. I gotta pick up Olivia from tennis, but I have some time still.
01:09:57
Speaker
Alright, thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next week. See you next week.
01:10:42
Speaker
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