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Longevity and Healing Modalities You Need to Know About | BoDreay and Sean of iHeal Collective
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Had the pleasure to talk to the founders of the iHeal Collective, BoDreay Fraser and Sean Allman. Join us as we discuss DMSO, hydrogen therapy, frankincense, and much more.
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00:00:01
Speaker
Hey folks, welcome back to the show. Today I have the pleasure of having the leadership team at the iHeal Collective. So i have Baudre Frazer. Hi Baudre and Sean Allman.
00:00:13
Speaker
Hello everybody. Thank you much for being camera, but I am here. Yeah, thank you so much for being here, guys. I love your work. ah I've seen what you do at Anarcapulco. I was there the last two times, so I've seen what you do. I did the the molecular hydrogen, I think the 24. And then last year I did the the the body work with Anthony, whom I've had on the podcast, and it was pretty amazing. like He just did my right arm, and like the way I felt was insanely good. So we're going to unpack all of that.
00:00:43
Speaker
ah today, the stuff you're doing. And just maybe let's start with, I'd love to get both of yours kind of um a little bit about your bio, how you got into health to begin with in whatever order you guys want to tackle it.
00:00:55
Speaker
Yeah, sure. um So I started out when I was in my mid-20s. I was a competitive snowboarder and I broke brokeke a lot of things. I broke my back, um shattered my collarbone, broke my elbow, my wrist. And I was in chronic pain. So I was having a hard time walking in my mid-20s and even picking things up. And I went to podiatrists and doctors and everyone told me, if you don't get the surgery, you're going to be in a wheelchair in your thirty s um And that kind of sent me out on a little bit of a journey. So i started, I went to Thailand and found someone there that showed me kind of the beginnings of advanced reflexology. um I only spent about a day, maybe a day and a half with him, but it got my brain going.
00:01:31
Speaker
And because I had the time, um I just kind of started developing my own method based on a little bit what he showed me. And within about a month of working on this, I started to feel the feeling coming back into my feet. And that just turned everything on in my brain. And within about three or four months, I was out of majority the majority of the pain. I could walk around again. And, you know, it wasn't something that I thought I was going to do for the rest of my life. It was just kind of like, oh, I got myself to a place where I'm okay.
00:01:59
Speaker
And I started, you know I started back at work in Canada and you know how the universe works. It just kind of starts pulling things out of the way until it's like, this is what you need to do. There's people around that need help. um And we found a way to not just address chronic or not just address chronic pain, but potentially fix it in a lot of people because we are starting with the roots of tension, right? I think a lot of practices, um they are effective for a short period of time or maybe even a long period of time, but the tension always comes back. But if we hit the tension at the root of the body where it started, which is your hands and your feet, the first things that interact with the world, then we're hitting causality and not symptoms. So if you have knee problems, back problems, that's a symptom. The causality is your feet. And then throughout that, I was able to start pairing that with different forms of body work, cupping, lymphatic drainage. And I really realized the expert syndrome doesn't work. When we're just using one modality generally with a person, you know we see this a lot in Western medicine, and even in chiropractic, you know in different forms of alternative health care is how we're trained. When we're able to look at the body holistically and start to incorporate the tension, the systems of the body, the organs, mental, physical, spiritual, emotional, you get a different kind of change and throwing different modalities at it that's paired to each person and specifically for what they need at that time, not just a massage where it's five minutes here, 10 minutes here. It's like, what does this person need every time they get on my table? And that's really where we started to see people transform.
00:03:15
Speaker
um And yeah, it's amazing. I'm i'm really glad that you had a chance to work with Anthony. He's so great. And he was an absolute pleasure to train. He actually helps me on with the courses now. So then Sean started to work with a health company and we moved to Mexico and then we branched out and just started doing things ourselves because we had our own own way of going about it. And luckily with the freedom community that we found, we've had so much support there.
00:03:36
Speaker
Yeah. So how long have you been going to Anarcapulco? This will be year four or five, Sean. I think year four. Yeah, four. Four. sorry That's awesome. Yeah. um Yeah. the the So like I said, I think I said before we started recording, kind of have um Anthony ah kind of reserved him. I think I'll be going to see him every day for a session. And um I've been really looking forward to because what help just quick, quick about what happened with me, you know. yeah we um The last book I wrote, I developed a a pain in my neck. And every time I've written a book, it's just it's one of the least healthy things I do, you know, over several months. So um I had the pain and um yeah he he just started with the right arm, the way he started on the fingers and kind of went up.
00:04:26
Speaker
And man, like that pain kind of went away because my my chiropractor was like you said already, like some of these modalities, they can help get you out of yeah ah you know a rough spot. But you you kind of that muscle memory, that tension in the muscles and the fascia, it will pull you back in that horror, especially with, in my case, a lot of sitting, kind of staring into directly ahead the whole time, this kind of thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:04:52
Speaker
um so i started deteriorating after that because i went back to just kind of like a lot lot of work at the computer was a very busy year playing like tennis and paddle so i'd come home that arm would be like you know tense and i'll then be like this with my shoulder up working the mouse all you know hours and hours so kind of started deteriorating and then a few weeks ago i had the idea wait What if i I started looking for a tender spot here, it kind of where the triceps and the the biceps meet, you know, but whatever that brachialis or whatever that muscle is. So I found this tender spot, man, and I just kind of was at it for like several minutes. it was really painful, really tender. But that alone, just remembering what he taught me, ah Anthony taught me, you know, ah last February. That alone took my my pain and discomfort and range of motion maybe from, it was like ah an eight in terms of how bad it was, down to like a three, four, some days.
00:05:43
Speaker
Amazing. You found the other wristband. Yeah, yeah. So that's why I'm really looking forward to have someone who can like take me through the the gauntlet of doing it all and kind of balancing it all. So I'm super excited. That's like the thing one of the things I'm most excited for, if you know what i mean. That's amazing.
00:06:00
Speaker
Yeah. So um maybe like, ah so let's try a little bit. So you kind of mentioned quite a lot of things. I noticed on the um on the website, yeah some of it incorporates Rayner bodywork. Maybe just I'm curious because I have worked with some some other practitioners that kind of studied with the Rayner sort of philosophy. Can you tell me kind of how did that affect what you do now in terms of the bodywork?
00:06:28
Speaker
it really opened it up. So I was already kind of working under the same kind of principles, but I didn't know the exact tension pathways. You know, I was kind of just poking around. So when I found Rainer, Brandon Rainer, amazing therapist, he spent about 30 years, um just developing these these tension pathways, which are the same in every person. So it's mechanical. It's it's really amazing because this treatment always works because it's the same um the same, the same area of the body, which is what you found. You found the outer wristband. Now, if you started at your fingertips, you could have taken that of pain out completely, but obviously you need a little bit of training for that. And we're going to get into that a little bit later as well.
00:07:00
Speaker
um But Brandon Rayner, you know, we have a little bit different methodology. He doesn't do the advanced reflexology the same way that I do. um And I find the way that we do it, it it just feels like it lasts longer. the The release is a little bit deeper and I feel like it' a little bit more emotional to a degree. um But the tension pathway system is what we've taken from Rayner and I'm super, super grateful of it. But we have a different way of kind of going out, working throughout the body within this tension pathway system. And I think that's what that's what we do with all modalities. We take what works from one and we put our own spin on things. And my practitioners are the same way. They're all different. Anthony's a psychotherapist, you know, came in and learned body work and that plays within to the modalities that he's doing, right? he works in the mental mind a lot. So I think that that's really important.
00:07:40
Speaker
um I will say that there, you know, there's amazing Rainer practitioners out there, but there's not enough of them either. um There's a lot in Australia, but there's only a few in in in Canada and the States. So um I love working with them whenever I can. um And he's got a lot of other different things. I think when you study his advanced techniques, he does a lot more into like the neck chiropractic, which I kind of leave for the bone doctors. I will adjust wrists and I will adjust to ankles and I will get everything moving, sternum. um So he works a little bit into that. And I'd be excited to see in the future to have the ability to meet him and work a little bit more with him.
00:08:13
Speaker
That's awesome. And joe I'm curious, so ah after, you know, you hold the, the sort of the, the, the pressure on the point, I think, um, uh, you use at least Anthony was, you have like one of those, uh, so Feggio tuning forks. What does that, I'm just curious, what does that do?
00:08:31
Speaker
It's kind interesting. It's a few different things. I mean, we are all energy and vibration at the end of the day. And I often tell people I could do everything, um in your body that I'm doing with a tuning fork, not just my other tools. It would just take me five years and we don't have that kind of time.
00:08:44
Speaker
um And if you had the treatment, you understand it can be quite painful when we go in. Now that tuning fork is going to help with, we we want to balance yin and what we call yang energy, right? So the vibration after a bit of pain, but not only are we doing that, we're also um reconnecting the peripheral and central nervous system, getting to start talking to each other again. And vibration is a big way that we wake that up.
00:09:04
Speaker
And then we can also find incoherences in the body just by using a fork. And using sound in some of these forks, I can see what's happening in your body. And we hold things in different areas. Like our right foot is our people pleaser foot.
00:09:14
Speaker
Taking one step forward for everybody else but yourself. Our left foots are feeling a bit stuck foot. And that incorporates Eileen McCusack's work from Tuning the Human Biofield. So we're pulling that in as well. So it's a diagnostic. It it does everything. It does everything, really. Wow.
00:09:27
Speaker
That's so amazing. Like, I i wish I had time to, because I have those so fed, like, every once in a while, like, a client will tell me, oh, I have this thing or I have that thing. So I'm like, oh, that's that's affordable. I can grab this. So I have the tuning forks. I have, like, all these, like, books and, and and like, homeopathy stuff. and I just don't have the time, you know, because, you know, like, you you kind of,
00:09:46
Speaker
You have your niche of knowledge and that starts working and so people come to you seeking that. So it's a little bit difficult to find the time, but I'd love to one day. would say like eventually probably I will do your course, you know, if we're in Mexico for an extended period of time and it kind of syncs with the schedules. Definitely I would love because I'm always like a sucker. I'm a sucker for Yeah, I've been looking into what you do as well. And I'm like, oh my goodness, these are all really cool things. There's stuff I've studied where I'm like, I want know more about that. The course is really cool too because it's not just for everyone that wants to become a practitioner. It's also showing people how to work on themselves and their friends and family and also get your whole body worked on at the same time. It's pretty intense that way. And we're also doing an online self-reflexology course because obviously not everyone can make it to Mexico. Maybe you can't afford a practitioner. Maybe there's not anyone near you. Well, we can show you what to do in the fundamentals, even just online. Obviously, can't put your...
00:10:35
Speaker
elbow into your own butt, but there's a lot of stuff that you can do. And if we can start people in the fundamentals to be able to correct their chronic pain, not only are they, they're really in it because they're doing it to themselves. um They're learning about their body. They're learning how to unfurl the tension and there's different kind of connection when you're doing it to yourself as well. And you can take as long as you want to do it. So I really, I've run into that this year and last year's. There's so many people that need help and need the education. It's just a matter of being able to get it out there on the right platforms and integrate it right way. which is why I chose an Acapulco this year. Sean's doing the onstage talk. I'm actually running the workshop. So people come to my workshops every year, the but hour, hour and a half. And I show you the fundamentals.
00:11:11
Speaker
I had a few phone calls last year from last, yeah the last workshop that I did, you know, six months later in Texas, a random guy calls me. It's like, I can feel my thumbs again. like, that's amazing. Yeah, and and actually Anthony gave me one of these torture devices. did? Yeah, yeah. Did it look like this?
00:11:28
Speaker
Something like, yeah, yeah, yeah. as I was like, dude, you gave me the sharpest one. What the hell? Like, it's not even that sharp. but Like, you're kidding me. You can stab somebody and kill them with it. But ah I do like i do do use it once in a while. And I have i actually have, I bought some, like, much fatter ones, know, like the... which reflexology ones, a couple of chopsticks. So every once in a while i am getting in there, but I'd love to like, have to see what what your your workshop is on and I'd love to get, because like you said, it's not like I would, I actually, I'm a qualified sports massage therapist actually. I saw that. Event massage.
00:12:03
Speaker
Yeah, so I can like, I even have equipment and everything here. But like I never intended to to like practice because it's so like physically demanding. But having that knowledge in our household is very beneficial. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Teaching my wife or helping my wife out, things like that. So would love to...
00:12:21
Speaker
ah the i mean like The other side of that as well, i like massage work and body work can be so demanding and it actually takes a massive toll on people's bodies energetically but physically as well. We see a lot of massage therapists that are in really bad shape after a few years. Now the nice of this work is you have a way to release all that tension.
00:12:36
Speaker
So work doesn't compound physically because, you know, for me, I take my tools to bed every night. I do a few releases. I'm stopping the tension in my hands and my feet. So with very little work i that I do to myself these days because i maintain it, my body is never in any pain from working. And I work 10, 12-hour days sometimes you know doing body work, especially at conventions. And you just have that get-out-of-jail-free card at the end because you know how to release the tension that you just started to build up.
00:12:59
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And it's it's interesting because I also... some Some nights I will take those tools ah in bed. I'm like, you know what? like There's no excuses now. Come on. Just do a little bit. Even one, two fingers, you know? I love that.
00:13:12
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. But what one thing I was going to ask because I actually... I did... After we did the interview with ah Anthony, I shared ah shared it with one of my clients who who is actually a massage therapist. um But then i've I've kind of like I talked about what you guys do with ah with my um clients. sort of We do like group um coaching and support calls three times a week. So I will mention you guys once in a while. But I think what might be cool is if...
00:13:37
Speaker
if maybe you have a list of where where you have practitioners in the USA especially that I can kind of have inside my portal. So people that, let's say, I don't know, Chicago or whatever, that they know there's a contact here near or or California or whatever. They'll know if you have that or like a map, that would be actually pretty sweet. I could put that inside my Yeah, absolutely. We do have a list and I actually like to make a traveling map because some of our practitioners do travel. It's like in different cities. Vishan and I have talked about that. And unfortunately, we only have about 15 in the world trained right now. So you're really lucky if you find one in in in your city. And everyone's on the West Coast for some reason, Canada, Mexico, the state. So if anyone wants to come train that it is in New York or Chicago, please come. I have so many people.
00:14:16
Speaker
ah They're begging for that. Or people do fly to Mexico. um They come down for about you know anywhere from a week to three weeks and they'll come do intensive training with us on the beaches. It's a great place to heal. um But that's one of our biggest thing is getting more practitioners out there. But obviously, this is it's a really intense program.
00:14:31
Speaker
And not everyone that trains wants to do this full time. So, I mean, we're just at beginning stages of this. I look at someone like Brandon who's had 30 years of his career that's been doing this and I don't feel so far behind. um But just of how many people are having and you know this within your work, the chronic infl inflammatory pain like in the last four years, it's have people screaming help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope every day because like well they can't find anything, right? Because Western medicine is not working for all these. And that's where I actually love to pair with people like you. I have a lawn in the in the US as well.
00:15:00
Speaker
where I do work a bit into functional medicine, but because I'm so busy in this lane now and there's no one else that can do this part of the job when people are having gut issues, inflammatory, I i can do a bit, but I'm able to pass them off to someone else that that it is now an expert in that. And I think that I was really overwhelmed the first few years I was down here because I was doing stage four cancer, autoimmune disease, hunton Parkinson's, MS. and And now I'm able to just kind of refocus on the structural because you know from what I found, most people, they they haven't cracked structural.
00:15:28
Speaker
that is so true and and we like we can do a lot with with my clients obviously remotely because most of them are in the usa and i'm in europe but um i do have once in a while somebody out just off the top of my head you know i had one one guy um he he had this just a lot of issues with shoulder mobility and guess what i recommended to him you know get some some ah ah DMSO with ah Epsom salts and food grade and kind of really clean, mix that stuff up. And lo and behold, like it's not, it's not perfect because obviously like, I don't like he's not had the chance to, you know, work with someone like, like you guys, but it's it's insane. Like, like letting just some DMSO and magnesium sulfate, what that can do. So yeah, having,
00:16:14
Speaker
Having someone and like myself as well, like I can do all the like gut stuff, health stuff, detox stuff, but ah my, we have a chiropractor here who he is from California. He was one of the chiropractors for the US Olympic team 1984, I think in the eighty s So he's really good, you know, nays worked with with athletes. But he he went home ah last year because his sister got some sort of fast developing Alzheimer's, whatever, dementia type thing. And so like we're shit out of luck, you know, because there's one other guy and he's busy and he can't get us. so So that's the thing we haven't, me and my wife, we haven't cracked is the structural thing because you need someone that knows what they're doing to help you out, you know.
00:16:59
Speaker
It's so amazing because there's been so many advancements in in other areas. ah my my I think Alon's probably my version of you in ah in the U.S. and she's cracked everything. It seems like she's cracked everything from IbuOzone. She's ah you know really, really up there finding everything new that's coming out and be able to weave it in. But she's like, I've never found structural in 15 years. i've been able to look for it. and I was like, okay, so we're we're really on to something here. yeah um And actually, i potentially will have a practitioner trained in Portugal by the end of this year. i think he's coming for my May course. um So that's really exciting for you guys to have there. But it is really frustrating when you find a healthcare practitioner. we had ah We had a chiropractor here that was amazing. He left, you know, I think six months ago. and we're like, ah.
00:17:35
Speaker
And I still ah don't get me wrong. I love a good Cairo. My issue with Cairo to a degree is the right order is being done in. So if you have too much tension in the body and they put you in, the tension is just going to pull you out again. And what that's going to do slowly over time is wear down your cartilage.
00:17:48
Speaker
Right. So if we can release all the soft, all the soft tissue tension into the fascia and then he puts you back together, it will stay. So it's all about doing things in the right order. The chiropractor is doing their job, but their job is not to manipulate soft tissue, right? It's their bone doctor. Some chiropractors do that very well, um but it's not necessarily what they have a lot of training in. So I think with pairing, I think that's the biggest thing. It's a decentralized way of going through medicine. And if I don't know, i will find you someone that does.
00:18:14
Speaker
and I think that's one of the things we need to learn as healthcare care practitioners. is I don't know. that That's a great set of words. where Use it. right And then we're able to bring in people like you, like Alon, like Sean, and and and really amalgamate this incredible information and then delineate in a way that makes sense for people. It's so overwhelming. It's so overwhelming. Even if someone gets into fasting, which I want to hear what you're going to talk about. an anar cap poco I can't wait. Oh, I'm going to piss some people off. Good. That's what it's about. and then And then that will reveal their sort of... religious belief in this thing you know it's gonna beautiful in a kind of ruffle people's feathers type way um but yes it's so true because and and also i love what you're doing just kind of giving people the tools especially with like again with uh there's a lot of stuff you can learn online about detoxing and sleep improving your sleep and stress but like the body work stuff um there there is like guys out there doing like um there's one I don't know if you ever heard of the knees over toes guy. He's more like athletic ah sort of sports guys focused.
00:19:16
Speaker
He does some really good work. And then um yeah there's there's another dude, I forget his name. ah i have his book. It's called Becoming a Supple Leopard. If you know that that book, that guy, he does some amazing.
00:19:30
Speaker
yeah Yeah, he does some amazing work. ah He's he's ah also Cairo. Check that out. Yeah, but but again, like just the the chronic pain piece is huge. So beyond like just mobility for sports and fitness, just getting out of pain, you know, this amazing...
00:19:44
Speaker
And really what they're missing is the hands and the feet. Like if you, if you take the time, I spent 80% of the time in a session on the hands and the feet. You know, I did, I worked on, do you know, at Dr. Edward group? He was a client of mine for a bit. Yeah. His wife, um, the other doctor group, she's amazing. And she's a chiropractor. And cause I spent about an hour and a half on her feet and then I adjusted her ankles at the end. She was like, that's the best ankle adjustment I've ever had. And you're not a chiropractor. And like, you don't need to be. Cause all I had to do is take the tension out and move things back into place. Yeah. So it's just the fundamental understanding of how much time you need to spend in that area to get long lasting results. And it's, it sounds easy. It's really painful. But this is my other theory is you're never going to escape the pain. You're going to deal with the pain for two and a half hours of my session or for the next 30 years.
00:20:27
Speaker
it's It's really up to you because because you ignored the signals for too long, your body, you know, it was like, hi, I'm right here. And then it started to scream at you. Right. Because you didn't listen. So then you got to scream it all out. Potentially a session. People don't don't just scream. They laugh. They cry. They have that go through a range of emotions during this because attention is not just physical. It's mental, spiritual, emotional. Think of every time you've had trauma. Right. Maybe even birth trauma.
00:20:48
Speaker
So it's to be able to get into the fundamentals of that. And you don't necessarily need to know what you're going through to release it. So I think that's a really beautiful part. And it brings it it bridges the energy into that. So I tell people it's mechanical, but it's also energetic. And I don't know in any other therapy that you can get off the table and it works every time.
00:21:05
Speaker
And that's nothing to do with our practitioners, though. I do think they're amazing. It's because they follow the fundamentals.
00:21:12
Speaker
Yeah, and ah to be honest with you, i know so i probably you probably think, oh my God, this guy's got some trauma. But like I'm actually looking forward to the pain. I'm looking forward to the pain. I want that pain. yeah um I don't know why, it's...
00:21:26
Speaker
it Even though when I do it myself, Anthony told me it's very hard to get yourself like yourself to an 8 out of 10 pain, or and especially a 9. you know It's hard. But like I feel like I can because I know, I've already experienced it once and kind of...
00:21:43
Speaker
the ah There was a dude as well there that was going every day and I saw his um the video that he did on Anthony's Instagram. He was like, i feel like I've just come out of my mother's womb. And I felt, it just felt on the one side and how it locked my neck. And I think my pain was on the left side, by the way, because he was only working on the right side, but the pain was on the on the left side. So the fact that that improved by not even touching that area, you know, necessarily.
00:22:08
Speaker
Although he did like some stuff around the traps and whatnot, but like that was, we were in a pinch, we were in a hurry. So I'm like, you know what? I don't give a shit. I want, give me the pain. Cause like, just to get to Mexico, it's going to be like, how, how many taxis and trains and three planes and hanging out at the airports. i'm I'm going to be like Quasimodo. So like, give me the pain, get me out of this, you know? Why do you think i train other practitioners?
00:22:33
Speaker
I have a little bit of insight on the the aspect of of what pain is. um And I think that plays into what we've truly lost as not just a health paradigm, but actually the paradigm of physics and the paradigm of our universe and the paradigm of nature. I think there's been a very concerted effort with huge amounts of resources to essentially scramble our minds and have us following along theories and in physics, biology, et cetera, et cetera, that are actually completely wrong or mostly wrong or wrong in the places where it will stonewall people from having a better understanding of ah how everything actually works.
00:23:21
Speaker
um Pain and And electrical signals, they're the same thing, right? So therefore, as electrical beings, um something to take into account is the concept of magnetic fields and electrical fields and how they work together and how they signal our brain and and tell us we're alive and what we're feeling. So pain is is actually, and emotions too, in fact, are are on the electromagnetic spectrum.
00:23:52
Speaker
and how the body deals with these things or stores them, which is something you don't necessarily want to do, you don't want to store an emotion um somewhere and create a blockage, and then you get problems down the line, you want to release these things, you want to think of the body, and this is all old knowledge, none of this is new. This is all, you know, it goes back 10,000 years, like TCM crystallized 6,000 years ago. The body is like a river. And if you think of it in in that sense, then you can have an understanding of pain or bad emotions being stored in places as creating blockages. Yeah, there's a fine line between pain and pleasure. And yeah, Sean, you're bang on the head with that, I think. And I think that the way I explain it to people during session, because that's probably too much for them to take in, is learn to become an observer of your pain.
00:24:40
Speaker
so you don't have the emotional same kind of emotional connection to it. You are releasing it and you you you are you know are acknowledging it, but learn to observe it. And people are struggling with pain, they can learn to observe it and then hum at the same time, because you know just like cats, we have a little vibrator right here that helps equalize our nervous system. and It will help us work through that pain, vocalize it, get it out. Everything changes. But you know there's there's different kinds of people. There's someone like you that's really into health and wellness and massage,
00:25:04
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but we're a different breed, you know, maybe to play extreme sports. We, we understand pain and we understand the benefits of pain. you know, even if you're a runner, you know, your your legs start to lock up when you're running. It's not necessarily a bad thing. You got to push through. So it's a different kind of mindset, different kind of ethos. So myself, I'm like you, I'm like, I'll take myself to a 26. I don't care. I love the payoff after that.
00:25:22
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and it becomes meditative for me. Right. Right. So, so you're going, you're going in there and you're, and you're, you're facing something with the same energy that it is. And, and what happens when you, uh, you know, you take a positive, what's, you know, one plus minus one, it's zero.
00:25:41
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So that's, that's why the pain works so well in these treatments is because you're coming in with another electric field and you're clearing the other electric field away. And it really ties back into physics and then actual aetheric science, which is starting to come back again. And uh,
00:25:59
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CIA knows all about it The Department of Defense knows all about it. I have patents I'm going to show in my talk. So um Get ready for that. You know, though, I don't just want to scare people as far as the pain goes. You also, if you are doing treatment, you do get a safe word within what we're doing. We're kind paying scale of one to 10 and 10. Cover me harder, daddy, is the safe word. Write that down, We're actually not here to traumatize you more. yeah yeah So, but you're right. There's some people I have other practitioners are like, I don't like doing it to myself. I'm like, well, too bad. You need to learn it really well. You have to do it to yourself. or I prefer it when someone else does it to me. I actually prefer but doing reflexology to myself now.
00:26:33
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ah more than other practitioners do, but the bodywork obviously I love for someone else to do. But it becomes one of those things that is so ingrained in my life now. Like I actually, um I tore my meniscus and my MCL last winter. um i was walking in a rickety stair in Mexico and it was dark and I slipped. And I was able to put my knee back in place immediately by releasing tension. And then I started to realize when you tear your knee, and we know what the tension starts in the foot, the inflammation around the knee is protecting it. It's that step I take every time that's pulling.
00:27:01
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So if I release all the tension, and I mean I spent hours on my foot, I could walk without a crutch, I could walk without a cane immediately. I was limping around for a little bit because ligaments take time to heal, but I didn't have that impact. Okay, now I'm on the couch, and this i I was fine. It hurt and took a while to recover from, but I was never mobilized.
00:27:17
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And then, ah you know, so I'm always learning new things. I was like, if I just release here, I'm like, oh, I have no pain when i walk. I just have a loose ligament now. So we can take someone out of knee pain. And the harder you hit something after it's injured, and I mean immediately, that's the whole thing, like rest, ice, no. Manipulate immediately. That lactic in your gas builds up. You know, then we get scar tissue crystallization. If you can, obviously, don't overdo yourself. But if you can work on it immediately, your time to heal will be cut into half or a third. It's amazing. Yeah.
00:27:45
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Wow. Yeah. Yeah, it it kind of doesn't make sense. I mean, maybe from like an athletic perspective, like because it's, you know, there's a lot of machoism in a lot of sports, but it kind of doesn't make sense if inflammation is heat in a sense, you know. It doesn't make sense that if you're injured, you're going to... ah freeze the area or kind of, you know those sprays that soccer players get. And ah kind of does, it seems like it's going against the healing. Right. Because that inflammation is protecting the area that needs protection right now.
00:28:15
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So it's like, mean, I said, okay, no, that inflammation is not a bad thing. a lot of inflammation over an extended period of time because your body is not detoxing properly. You know, that's a whole, if that's a whole different area, but your body's really, if you're in shape and you're healthy, your body's really smart of when, when to,
00:28:28
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um, decrease the inflammation in certain areas. And that means when it feels protected potentially in the foot. So my inflammation was down really quick after a knee injury. And obviously I used a lot of DMSO and I love that you found DMSO. Not enough people know about it. And we, we make it within our products and I use it every day, every single day. Oh, yeah, yeah. oh ah This is actually the the next thing I wanted to to talk talk to you about is the products. But actually, before that, just I'm curious, um how do like how do you procure high-quality food in Mexico? I have a couple of clients now in Mexico recently, and it seems to be a bit challenging for folks.
00:29:01
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Well, where are they? Are they in the city? Yeah, it depends where they are. Because Mexico has some of the greatest, like everything grows everywhere. So that's. a Yeah. So but like, do you, is there like online websites that you want? There is a few. yeah There's a few.
00:29:16
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um There's a few organic websites, more for like teas and dry items. um Most areas like where we are, we have three or four organic farms in this area. I had my organic delivery guy drop off the next day. We figure out where they are. We have we have a pretty pretty big Mexico connection. I can probably find someone to do that. As far as the meat, most of the meat out here is grass-fed because they just let them go.
00:29:39
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and the The other side of things is there's not the the grass out here is not as nutrient-dense, but most of the most of the good farmers here aren't they can't afford the hormones. right They can't afford a lot of these things. So their cow is just in the bush until it's ready to be butchered. So you don't really have the same kind and you, and you can ask them as well. Like they're, they're pretty on, they're really honest that way. Like I have a lady that I used to buy chickens from. I had one of her chickens are like, do these have hormones in them now? And she's like, yeah, i had to switch suppliers. I'm like, okay.
00:30:04
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So we, yeah. So the, most of the places here, you're going to have a way easier time finding good meat. The chicken will be around the corner from somebody. i have one butcher in town that it is grass fed, grass finished. They don't use anything and it's, mostly because they can't afford it. Like pesticides, antibiotics, these kinds of hormones are more expensive in Mexico and they're not as easily distributed to local farmers.
00:30:23
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Yeah, a lot of people are really health conscious here. And it's just a matter of finding a little community online, I think. In my opinion, that's what I would do. If I was in their position, I would say local health freak. Or reach out to us. We've got a lot of people in all places. You could find groups like us. We have a large knowledge base. We know people all over the country and people. world. And that's kind of something we just do as something we do. Like, you know, we care about that. You're not wrong, though. What I've looked at in Mexico, you know, in the last four years is it is very common for people that aren't making as much money here. They drink Coca-Cola for breakfast. Everything is seed oils. There's refined sugar in everything. Your pharmacies are all poison. Every grocery store is mostly poison. You don't go to the grocery stores unless you need dry items. Like everything is done market style. But there is a big gap there. So there are some really healthy Mexicans that know exactly what's going on, but just like the indoctrination everywhere else, it runs really deep. And there is the diabetes here is crazy. It's crazy.
00:31:27
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But on the other side of things, they also have amazing herbalists that are using their cures from their grandmothers. So it's a mixed bag. Yeah. like there's There's a town in Chiapas where they literally have a ah a Coca-Cola factory.
00:31:40
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And it's like I think it's the most unhealthy town in the entire world. But it's because Coca-Cola is cheaper than water. Literally. Literally. and yeah they don't know any better, right? and and And this is still, they're using cane sugar, they're not even using the yeah corn syrup, and it's still not good. Because I mean, and if you drink too much of that stuff, it's obviously, if you don't know any better. yeah But you know what's crazy is the the first year, 24, that I went to Acapulco, I went into those little corner stores. Dude, I shit you not, like I was like, I don't know what the hell to buy here. Everything's poison. Yeah. And in the end, I swear to God, i bought i bought the the Coke, the Mexican Coke in the in the glass bottle. And I was like, this is a health drink. or Yeah. I know. It was also really nice out of a glass bottle. It just reminds me when I was a kid, I was addicted to Coke, you know. oh man. It was actually a lot of us. kind of enjoyed it. But was saddened as well. I was saddened really for the people. Yeah. You you could see a lot of people suffering with metabolic type issues. You could just see it when you look. Oh, yeah.
00:32:51
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Yeah. the The government subsidized all these, you know, these companies that are bringing in so much sugar. you know, you look at the beaches of Mexico, pictures from the 70s to now um and how how different their bodies look. And most ah a lot of it here is is a huge lack of education.
00:33:05
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They did a really good job of stifling. ah you know so Well, yeah. And then who's who's paying, who created the education system? It's the same guy that owns the factory. But i will tell it I'll tell you what about Mexicans. When you tell them, like when we came over over here during COVID and I told them what the masks were doing to them, They'd look at you and they'd rip it off. and they said, well, I'm not wearing that. you know yeah They're not going to, they're not like i know governments trying to kill them. they're We're just telling them how they're like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Right. They're not arguing with you I'm like, don't get any more jabs. This is this is this. They're like, oh my God, how do I get of? Like there was no convincing. I had to convince them. but All I had to do was present the information. They're like all that makes sense. Well, yeah, I mean, and that, that goes for, that was my thing that I would say to people about the mass thing when people would, would be like,
00:33:45
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why shouldn't wear it's like, well, do you have, you have a digestive enzymes in your mouth, right? It's called one of them is amylase. Like you learn that high school, you know that, right? And people are like, yeah, most people know that. And it's like, okay, so ah do you have, um do you have digestive enzymes in your lungs?
00:34:02
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No. Okay. So if you, if you breathe in food particles and, ah and things like that, the digestive enzymes keep the bacteria at bay. But if you breathe that bacteria into your lungs, you don't have digestive enzymes. So what happens?
00:34:15
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And they're like, oh, bad things. Yeah, pnemon pneumonia and infection, and it kills you. yeah So you you don't want to be inhaling your own ah saliva.
00:34:27
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Sure, sure. what is that going to do? Is that me? That's you. Okay, sorry about that. But, you know, just sorry to interrupt interrupt. Just yesterday, just because talking about masks, I saw some patent, which apparently was never like action to create a product. But there someone on on X was showing a patent of an intranasal drug delivery device with microneedles.
00:34:50
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So I swear to God, we didn't even, like me and my wife, we didn't even do a single COVID test in those four years or whatever that shit was. Oh, good for you. Yeah. like I was like, no way. I didn't fly anywhere either, unfortunately. But sometimes in the name of health, you have to take a stand even if you're suffering something. Well, yeah, I mean, that's that's one of the the hardest things for everyone to contend with is that it's like, sorry, guys, but evil actually exists. like there's There are people out there that are just bad. And they have a lot of power and money and ah will try and hurt you and they hate you. And they hate you. Yeah. yeah and And that's a hard thing for, for you know, um Jordan Peterson's, you know, describes it. It's like post-traumatic stress syndrome.
00:35:37
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it's It's not actually the experience that causes it. it's the It's confronting evil and having to come to terms that that level of darkness actually exists. And that is why I believe we have so much cognitive dissonance is because most people are actually good. Most, the overwhelming majority of people are just normal and want the same things and, you know, love their children and families and community. I think though, even though Sean Lee awake, people are living in bit of dissonance because I hear this a lot. I was forced.
00:36:10
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You are not forced. yeah You were coerced. Yes. We chose... To get out when we could and not leave and not travel, there's no gun to our heads to do it. And we did what we did to move to Mexico. We were not forced. And yeah, it was hard. It was sure it was hard for you. But we we were not forced.
00:36:26
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There's no gun to our heads saying you have to do this now. And yes, you know, feeding your family, all all these things are very important and they're to be considered. They had some pretty serious leverage on people. Super serious leverage. But... and A lot of other people suffer for this too, and coercion is completely unacceptable, but we need to remember that so that we know what that's going to look like next time, coercion and being forced. We need to define that. So it's like, okay, I'm not being forced right now. I'm being coerced, and now we have to stand up and do this together so this doesn't happen again.
00:36:53
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Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why i like at at some point I remember it's somewhere here, but i I printed several copies of the Nuremberg code. Yeah, just absolutely. get there hand I know. And just so you can pull it up to to some dickhead that is like, oh, you got to do this. You got to do that.
00:37:09
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Yeah. The fuck I do, man. But ah yeah, it's it's it's a it'ss it's intense. And I understand the people that um that had a job. and Oh, yeah.
00:37:24
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yeah But you know ah some people and i people I know, they're like, we did it so we could travel. I know a lot of people that did that, too. devastated when I heard some family, close family members got jabs, not just test jabs to go on vacation travel. Yeah, it was like I was in a depression at one point. Well, you know, the good news is that the level of incompetency of the people that were in charge of the rollouts of these things was very high. OK, so a lot of the shots actually were um inadvertently useless and deactivated because they weren't refrigerated properly. they had to stay refrigerated for them to stay deadly. A lot of them weren't. So, ah you know, and then a lot of them were, were handed out were blanks um depending on how much information they had on you, like your voting habits that would determine which batch you got.
00:38:15
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And then what, but what, what is actually good news here is that reversing the effects of these shots is actually, it's not difficult. It's not expensive. Right. And it just takes a little bit of knowledge. Like the, the McCulloch protocol is out there.
00:38:30
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And there's other ones, but what's the, there's a few other ones, right? There's a few other ones. I always like to recommend generally an ivermectin and phenbenzanol detox. yeah And, um, depending on what's going on with your body, the EBU ozone, the extracorporeal ozone, which is like dialysis for your blood. Um, one of the most powerful, the most powerful form of ozone in the world, depending on what's going on with you. We, but we pulled out like clots out of people.
00:38:48
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yeah we Yeah. Like the morticians. Oh yeah. we have We have protocols. Yeah. We have protocols on our website, I heal collective.com and we give them away for free. Like we have a PDF, um, And we'll, you know, we share links about that thing. And ah the, and then we have actual, like for those that really want to, you know, it's, it's not just a detox from a vaccine, but um a lot of our therapies will have the effect of detoxing that thing. yeah So like what Bo just said, like Eboo therapy or ozone in particular is ah super, super powerful to clean out everything, not just if you got a vaccine and you know, you had to do that, but just living in, in a city, you know, with the pollutants and, or if you're welder. Not always easy to find an ozone therapist though. So it's, a especially in Canada, um which is kind of tyrannical about medicine as we know, we're actually bringing an ozone therapist to Anacopoco though this year we'll be doing IV ozone therapy. yeah
00:39:46
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Sweet. So, yeah, Canada is crazy. I just ah well very recently, like in the last few days, I had to order for one of my clients in Canada, I had to order blood spot, vitamin D and TSH tests because he's like, you know what, I'd rather pay a hundred, whatever, $20 for those two tests to not have to deal with like getting talking to the doctor and like begging to get like basic blood work. Good luck getting into the doctor.
00:40:12
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I kind of, ah my sense of humor is a bit dark. I said, but hey, but listen, if you want to get yourself euthanized, you could they could push that through in the day for two months. That's Oh, it's ridiculous. Well, you know, they, they only give you the, ah the, the quick euthanization if you fill out the organ donor card because then they make lots of money on it and that's what it's all about. The only way they'll euthanize you is if you give away your organs and they're actually they want your organ they're actually changing a bill or working on changing a bill to um what they call mature minors, which means your children can now participate in this MAID program, which they can euthanize themselves um without your signature.
00:40:47
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They can just decide, you hormonal, going through puberty, be like, I don't want to live anymore and the government will approve them and they do not need your signature if they are considered a mature minor. probably. Pull your kids out of school. Get your kids away from the government, basically. The rage that makes me the bottom soul. They're going to MKUltra them. Oh, man. Disgusting. It's disgusting, man.
00:41:05
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Yeah. Yeah. It's, I think, the third leading cause of death in Canada now, um moving into second, is the MAID program. And you know what? To a degree, i understand a bit of this ethos of it, how desperate people are there when I talk to them. They have no light at the end of the tunnel. I have friends that work two full-time jobs and have a family going homeless.
00:41:25
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You know i mean? i can feel the desperation in people. And what do you do? What do you do? There's no way out. And it's it's really, really sad. It's really sad. So, I mean, I empathize with the people even making these decisions. Well, yeah. usually You have Canadian fathers are crunching the numbers and they're figuring out that they're actually worth more to their family in that system. They're worth more to their family if they're if they're dead. yeah Literally. ge And...
00:41:50
Speaker
The finest genocide of all time. Oh, yeah, yeah. So Canada's got really, really big, systemic, deep, deep problems with the ah the federal government. And even the provincial governments, honestly, are infiltrated by – it's pretty clear it's a foreign, hostile occupation. Yeah. And it's going to be very difficult to dig it out. They've – warped the school systems. They've been operating for at least two decades, probably six decades they've been operating. So pulling that cancer out is going to be incredibly difficult. It's going to mean several, we need revolution. And that's probably the only thing at this point that's going to do anything. yeah I'm curious too though about Portugal. Sean and I were actually talking about Portugal the other day. What is it like there now pre and post and freedoms wise?
00:42:38
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So, ah like, apparently they were boasting that they had the highest vaccination rate in at least Europe, maybe maybe the world, was one of the top vaccination rates. So, like... wait ah It's more like this. I know, right? Yeah. yeah wo well yeah ah But um so during like when the the the lockdowns, so luckily when we where we were living with my wife was just by the seaside in the south, you know. So i had just literally that week that I published my first book on ah autism and children's health. that's
00:43:18
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That week is when the crazy lockdowns happened. So I had like my launch was destroyed Aw, man. I was in lockdown for like eight months writing the book before it was cool. I was in lockdown before it was cool. And my wife was obviously not very... She was still my girlfriend at the time, but she wasn't happy about it. But the cool part was I would go out with our dog. and it was just me on this massive beach and then occasionally like this old uh i saw this one uh old guy uh portuguese and the the sort of they had this sort of nazi style you know the the car the police cars with the sort of the not the sirens but the loud sort of, what do you call that? Like a megaphone. Megaphones. Yeah.
00:44:03
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Yeah. So, stay at home, stay at home. vca casa So this Portuguese guy like, hey, stay at home. I'm like, you stay at home. So just me and that guy like taking walks and everybody was like locked down. So it it was pretty, it was like staggering, staggering.
00:44:20
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Because we we me and my wife were already waking up to the stuff I was into already into conspiracy research for like a couple of years. So when it happened, we weren't surprised. But like I i always at that point when it happened, I was I thought did this agenda, they were like,
00:44:37
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you know, like David Icke says, the total totalitarian tiptoe, where it's like a decade centuries and decades. So i thought like, you know, by by the end of the century, you know, these guys are going to have a big lockdown. I didn't I had no idea that like they had warp speed fucking plans, yeah which was that was the surprising part. Well, you know, yeah it was ah it was an experiment.
00:44:59
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It was like, okay, well, we have the World Economic Forum, right? We got people in every government all around the world almost at this point. let's Let's do a flex. Let's see how far we can push something. And we're going to push a bunch of stuff that is blatantly illegal and transgresses every human's rights code everywhere in the entire earth. But we can we can ask them.
00:45:19
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We can ask them to do things that are illegal for us to demand and see how well that works. Like you were out there walking your dog. So was that guy. Was someone like going and shooting you for doing that? No.
00:45:31
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ah In Canada, they're like, stay home, stay home. It's a like we have ah we have a charter of rights in Canada. It's written on our passports. Not anymore. Well, it's in our passports. We have the right to travel within Canada.
00:45:44
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Like within the confines of Canada, it's like it's a very important primary like staple of our country that we can travel inside of the provinces unimpeded without any kind of shakedowns or checkpoints or anything like that. So they can't enforce that.
00:46:03
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So, you know, like you walking your dog ah during the lockdowns, when the lockdowns hit me, and it also messed my career up big time. um i was I was working in the movie and television industry, and I was on some really big stuff, and it was going really well for me, and then it all came crashing down.
00:46:21
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So it really screwed me up. But I was like, well, I'm going to do the opposite. So I put all my stuff in my car and I drove across the country. I went on a road trip. So the whole country was locked down and I was on a road trip. So I got all all the Canadian highways to myself, you know. so the liian sphere wide open so you were in Portugal before then?
00:46:41
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Yeah, we were here, guess, 2018. we were here about a year and a half or so before it happened. And yeah, man, it was like, because I can't remember the timeline. Yeah, so the previous year, we were camping all up and down the country. was just like was good, you know, that kind of way. Like life was good and we're just traveling and making plans. And i was like planning out my sort of career as a practitioner, like i want to write, you know, 10 books over the next 20, 30 years. I was really thinking long term. And you know how sort of fear and and stress shuts down long term thinking when this happened, all that stress, I bet most of us
00:47:21
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a lot of these sort of fantasies about how you're like you know you're envisioning your life you're creating your future. I think a lot of us, we're just like back into like, shit, ah survival mode, survival mode. yeah And I think that's one of their biggest sort of the the strongest plays that they have is creating fear because that shuts down long term thinking and it shuts down empathy and a lot of like a lot of things that really they hate the sort of the satanic sort of mindset is they hate ah you being compassionate. They hate you creating connections with people around you and they want you to be ah at home alone and you to be in conflict with others as opposed to, you know, humans are supposed to be like, you know, tribal yeah ah um creatures and they want to kind of, they love that isolation. And I actually saw some studies that were done before COVID. where ah people with like, and know like this is kind of common knowledge, you know, at least in our circles, but people that are isolated, they have no purpose in life, they they tend to like have more like more mortality, higher more morbidity. Of course. just lower quality of life. Yes, yes.
00:48:32
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the i and my Sorry, my the other thing I wanted to kind of mention, that i my take or kind of my suspicion is that probably all this AI stuff that came out a couple of years later, like the ChatGPT, and they started sort of giving it to the plebs to train the models. I reckon that was in place.
00:48:49
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ready to collect data before, just just before COVID. though They put it in place and then like you said, they did this as an experiment to see how far they can take it. yeah the same time, they were gathering the data, who what will be the response? And then the AI can help them figure out how can in future, all of these sets of responses that we had around the world from all these people, good and bad for our agenda, how can we you know work and and thwart the bad ones in the future? How can we double down on our tracks? Yeah, absolutely. And, and I mean, what is, what is the, the concept of lawfare, right? Like say I'm a bad actor, I'm a bad politician. I'm going to do some stuff that's blatantly illegal.
00:49:29
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Um, well, what you do is you hire an army of lawyers, right? You get a lot of lawyers, but that costs a lot of money. Lawyers are expensive. But now that you have AI, which is, you know, at the point, it it passed the bar pretty early on. I think like one of, it was like the second version of public chat GPT passed the law bar, as in it is, it can create law arguments. And as soon as you have AI capable of doing law, as a politician, a bad actor, hi, I'm an evil man. ah What I'm going to do is I'm going to get
00:50:01
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10,000 GPTs to create 10,000 more GPTs and create 10,000 more GPTs, which are going to be lawyers. So now I have like an exponential love. I've literally millions of lawyers writing defense for me and creating red herrings and creating data, just like mountains and mountains of misdirection, lawfare protection.
00:50:27
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you know So it'll take a thousand years to pull apart. It's the same thing when people are like, well, what's actually inside of the vaccine? And it's like, that's the wrong question. Because if if I, again, i put myself in the in the position of evil bastard pharmaceutical person, I would put like 700 million ingredients in the vaccine. Maybe five of them matter. Maybe maybe a hundred of them matter, right? But you have it's like, good luck figuring out what I put in there.
00:50:56
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. study Study it. Try and figure out what we did. It's the wrong... And that's the point. It's to tie people up so they never... By the time they figure out what went wrong and what the actual weapon was, 35, 40, 50 years have gone by. And we're seeing that with war crimes, right?
00:51:15
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Even now. Even now, we're still pulling apart what actually happened in the first and second war. There's a lot of things that are just just being figured out what weapons were used, why and how, who's responsible.
00:51:28
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and And that's part of the ah the operation strategy of evil is to create ah confusion and darkness. So it's but it's all about sunlight. I don't think they are going to have an easy time. You know, I look, I look now, you know, with the work that we do with functional medicine is nobody trusts doctor. not I'm going to say nobody, but so many people do not trust doctors. They do not trust big pharma. Like their approval rating is out the, out the door.
00:51:53
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it so that's the really beautiful thing that's come from this. It's like, no, I'm not believing anything they say. Good, good. I had, i actually had a guy come and work with me last year and he showed up. He's like, I'm going to do everything. You tell me everything. I'm like, why?
00:52:05
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You don't know me. We haven't even started working together. I think this might be part of the problem. You're just doing everything everyone tells you. Let's teach you how to listen to your body. So that's the big thing. So I think that's a really positive thing that's come out of this is the trust is no longer there for the institution.
00:52:20
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Good. We can work with that. see See what bo Bo did there was like, like no, don't trust me. like Yeah, don't trust me. go look Go get some other opinions and then you'll realize that I am trustworthy rather than just saying, believe what I say, yeah do what I say, and don't listen to anyone else. like That is when you should have alarm bells and red flags. And back on DMSO, that's a huge thing with DMSO because in the late 1960s, they vilified that after Dr. Stanley Jacobs found his work. And I talked about this on on the report of our podcast. There's actually a quote from them. Big Pharma came to Dr. Jacobs and said, we don't care if DMSO is the major drug of the century and we know that it is. We will destroy it because we cannot patent it.
00:53:01
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And they did a very good job for a lot of years. But even Western Medicine uses DMSO in cry in organ transplant to move organs. You to talk about cryoprotective? they care about the organ business. They make a lot of money on that. So yeah they use DMSO so extensively to keep... keep organs but they have so much information out there to scare people but but you don't want to use dms of course of course but that that is a perfect segue because the next thing i i wanted to to discuss with you guys is some of the stuff you you you you have created actually in 24 so and i want to actually touch on the on the ozone and the molecular hydrogen as well because i'm i'm not
00:53:39
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well-versed in that and occasionally clients were like, what do you think of hyperbaric oxygen therapy? Actually, I have one client. he's He's pretty well off. Him and his wife are ah business people. so he told he told me one of his ah friends is going to buy ah an HBOT unit. A big hyperbaric. Yeah. Yeah, I asked how much is that going to set him back? because like he said I think he said something around between 30 and 100,000 US dollars. a like Yeah. does he like Because my my client, you know we did a food sensitivity test where they test your blood for like the white um blood cell response, you know? And the dude like wheat was like hyper inflammatory and it's like very busy guy, you know, so I of i'm not blaming him, but it's, it's been almost a year and I'm still every time, every month I'm asking, are you still eating like sandwiches here and there? Yeah, but I'm down to a couple. So I'm like, So I just kind of gave him that analogy. Like, so like you can do things for like a few hundred dollars that give you a lot of data that you can like reduce inflammatory processes on a daily or at least weekly basis that can have a profound effect on your long-term health. Yeah. um And you know unless you're doing that already,
00:54:50
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I don't think it makes sense to invest tens of thousands of dollars on whatever other thing. That's kind of, I painted that to him. I agree. I agree. You know, and but that was my way of reminding him that because I knew when I asked him, i hadn't asked him, are you still eating the the wheat? And because there's a few other things that were very inflammatory for him specifically. that he just enjoys and like they're too convenient for him to kind of make the... Because he feels good. He's like a 65-year-old guy, but he feels good. He like exercises every morning, high-performance individual. But it's just my way of kind of reminding him a lot of money and a lot of cool cool gadgets and toys is meaningless i see if you're not doing the simple, simple fundamentals. you know Yeah, and I think it's a lot about what a what about your life can you change that you're willing to change? And and we kind of have to start there. And um I see the same thing. I have clients that can afford a lot and they buy all of the the beep bop boop gadgets and some really, really great ones. But unless you have a structured way of integrating all of these things, they use most of them just sit there. Right. And I think that for myself, at least, um I didn't come from money.
00:55:52
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um So I'm always looking for a few different ways. I like to see what I call the cure-alls. Obviously, it's not going to cure all with it with everything. But how many of these things can I hit with something that is affordable, that is manageable, that is powerful for the lowest price point possible, right? Because i as far as our demographic goes, there's not everyone can afford a hyperbaric chamber, which is know upwards of 30 grand or or more. But they might be able to spend three grand on molecular hydrogen machine, which also gives them hydrogen and oxygen. So I'm always looking kind of more into that avenue. And... um
00:56:23
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You know, even like some of some of the Tesla or the cost, your Rife machines, they can get upwards $50,000, $60,000, $70,000. Well, we found or amazing. Right. So I'm always kind of looking within that. But if you don't have the fundamentals and we see this with body work as well, someone's, yeah, they come in, they're really excited about it. And then everything goes downhill. It's like we have to, health care practitioners, make it manageable for you to be able to attain that. But then you also have a responsibility on the other side to yourself and even to the practitioner you're working with. I don't see everybody. I'm like, is this a commitment you're willing to take?
00:56:55
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If I'm going to go on this journey with you, I want you to be in. I'm all in. Right? So there's there's that part of things. And obviously we don't shame people when they fail with that kind of stuff. But if someone that has had a weed and intolerance is still eating two sandwiches a day, well, you're not doing the work. So let's do the work. You're going to feel better. Yeah.
00:57:09
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And it's I find some of those cases where the person is healthy. They're just – they're coming in. They're rarer. you know Most people have bads to pretty bad sort of health challenges they're dealing with. yeah But occasionally, someone is smart enough to invest in their health for the long term. Preventative. That's the problem. is like If you're going to invest in your health,
00:57:33
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It's not just about, you don't give me the money and I can magically through the ether optimize your health. You gotta to do some stuff based on that, you know, lab testing, whatever. But um you can't you can't blame some guys if you already feel good. But here's the thing, in this particular instance, you know, there was coronary artery calcification and I started explaining to him, you know, well, it's not the, kind and of course the the whole statin thing and, you know, the the doctor, he sees the best doctors in in the world, you know, in the US. so I told him it's not about the cholesterol, it's about the inflammatory and oxidative stress sort of backdrop where that cholesterol becomes oxidized and then you know the endothelial lining of your blood cells, get that gets damaged. And that's how you and when you factor in that, when you eat foods that are hyper-inflammatory based on your you know current you know ah immunological response,
00:58:24
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you you kind of, you're shooting yourself in the foot. You know what i mean? And on the other hand, the statin is probably going to make things worse in the long term on top of that. 100%. 100%. It's an education piece there. And I think that, I believe in 80-20, 80% of what do I put in my body is amazing. i can have a little of the fun with a little 20% sometimes, unless you are extremely unhealthy going into it. Then you have to be fastidious about what you're doing. But you mean you still have to enjoy life, but you need to find find that balance.
00:58:50
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right? and the what wait And then a popular opinion, your body needs cholesterol. Your brain needs cholesterol, right? So it's like, you know, I went to, I went and got blood tests like a year and a half ago. was dealing with something else. i just wanted to see, i know blood tests are a snippet of this, but I was curious. And they're like, your cholesterol is out of the roof. Your blood sugar is out of the roof. And I'm like,
00:59:09
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Well, did did you see RFK? I'm doing pretty good, but I did have a juice this morning, which means why my my sugar levels are a little bit higher. And i had I cook everything in butter. Yeah, I got cholesterol my body, but they're like, need to put you on this. And I was like, I am – I was 39 years old at the time. I'm a very healthy person. My diet is very good. I work in health. And I'm like – Really? that's it's It's laughable. like It's laughable. Well, they just reversed the food pyramid in the United States. Yeah, heard that. They flipped it upside down. Like, oh, oh we had this wrong for 50 years. Let's just completely inverse it I'm still here. My camera died. but um It's like, yeah yeah, oops, guys. Everything we told you was a lie for several decades.
00:59:53
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ah you know Was it was it h the George H.W. Bush? was Was it him that said, you know, if the American public knew like truly what was going on, what we were up to, they would like be hunting us down with pitchforks. And i think like that...
01:00:08
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They're almost like taunting the public at this point. like Yeah. They're not even hiding it. Can they incite a revolution to, you know, bring down martial law and like like, you know, activate the 5G towers and like fry everybody, like cook them alive? You I actually had a dream not too long ago. I woke up and it was like they clicked a but button and all the vaccinated were just – you know, that's a horrible, horrible thing to think of. But it's like, is there a kill switch somewhere at some point in time in history, but they're going to give us and how they're so brazen and bold. Now they, it's not even in the shadows. And I can't really believe why more people aren't
01:00:48
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angry, like furious. There are a lot of angry people, but everyone's taking this pretty well. Waking up to what's in the shot, they're like, okay, yeah, it happened. And it's like, I would be so mad if you'd actually pulled the wool over my eyes.
01:01:00
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Matter. Get matter, guys. This never happens again. I feel like we can actually, like especially the conspiracy COVID, I think we could probably like beat this horse to death. But I do want ah do ah ah want want to ask you about the products that you do. Because in 24, at Anarcapulco, I got the um the DM. Actually, I still have the bottle right here. It's it's crazy. and there's tiny bit of your DMSO eye drops. this This is amazing. And actually, ah now I have some clients with like cataracts and like various sort of eye stuff. And like that's one of the first thing, obviously diet and everything else we're gonna dial in, but like that's one thing I'm like, you gotta get yourself some DMSO. Tell me, how how did you start working with DMSO? And and also so i' love I'm curious, how do you use it yourself day to day as well? Like just tell me yeah ah tell me about that and we cover the other stuff as well. So I remember it as a kid on the farm. um My grandpa used to use it on the horses. And there was a big gap between then and then when I started using it again, which probably was about six, seven years ago, I started to kind of get back into it. um The eye drops specifically, I say they're probably our best sellers um because there's so many people that just have had tried everything for ocular issues and have had no success.
01:02:11
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And DMSO is kind of an umbrella treatment to everything ocular. Like it works with g glaucoma, floaters, cataracts, macular degeneration, um dry eyes, like Everything, everything. um And there was nothing else I found that you put it in and it stings for a second when you put it in, but immediately your eye feels better and it lasts all day. So for myself with the eye drops, I noticed i had chronic dry eyes, um which was very irritating. Canada is a very dry country um here.
01:02:36
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Gone. Gone. I've never dealt with it since. I still put a drop in every morning because it's actually sharpening my vision. i used to need glasses to drive at night. I don't need glasses anymore. um And that's also a combination between the molecular hydrogen, but the DMSO eye drops every day. So those ones are, they're they're the holy grail of eye treatments, I believe.
01:02:53
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And there's the only con indication is don't put on. what about the frankincense hydrosol is the other ingredient? Yeah, I was going to get that side of the thing. there's different DMSO eye drops out there. A lot of them are saline solutions mixed. um We went a step further because we make our own frankincense.
01:03:06
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We distill it. It's from ah the Dover region of Oman and we distill it with the headwaters Mount Shasta. So it's kind of magical properties we feel like. And the frankincense... Sorry, you said that so quickly. I don't even know. um I mean, I do have your frankincense toothpaste and that hydrosol. I don't even... ah um Embarrassing, I know. But yeah I don't even know what what is frankincense, just in case other listeners don't know. So frankincense, is ah it's a tree.
01:03:27
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It's a tree. And the sap the sap made from this tree produces a resin. So in frankincense itself, the specific there's many times of frankincense trees. This one specifically is known for having the highest medicinal qualities in the world. And it's called Boswellia sacra. And it's from a certain region. It's literally the stuff they brought Jesus.
01:03:42
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And so to paint a picture, frankincense, this tree will grow sideways out of a cliff with no rain all year and just the sunshine. And it's growing. It's amazing. And you, by taking that resin from it, are taking the immune system of that plant into you.
01:03:57
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Wow. Right. Right. it' Something that can grow in the harshest conditions of the world, you're now pulling that immunity into yourself. So when we distill frankincense, we get a couple of what we call the byproducts of it. And the frankincense hydrosol is one of them. And we use this a lot. We use it in our perfumes, use it for skin toner. We use it for all sorts of sprays. um And we actually use it in our DMSO eye drops. And there was something special when we combined the DMSO with the frankincense. Like it just seemed like it went deeper. And if you know the properties of frankincense, there's a lot of them. It makes a lot of sense because it's it hits your body in a magical way. That's only way I can describe it.
01:04:28
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um So the combination of those two, when the exothermic reaction happens and yeah and then you put that in your eye, feels so much different than just the saline. So it's the minute that that I tried this because you know we have both products. I was like, I want to see what this does. It was like, whoa.
01:04:41
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And I was like, we have it. We don't anything else to that. That's perfect. Yeah. I'm getting those when I see them. I'll get you a big bottle. The anti-inflammatory properties of frankincense are are becoming a lot more understood in the academic community. There's quite a bit of peer review. I've collected it. Again, if you check out, I've put up some articles, actually, I've written a bunch of articles on it and actually linked to a lot of these studies so you can peruse and look through them yourself.
01:05:09
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um It's just a wonderful combination therapy. DMSO and frankincense are like best friends. They're like the kinds of best friends that just bring out the best in each other.
01:05:22
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Well, and bind to each other. So the DMSO, yeah what it will do, it will bind to anything you put it with and pull it safely through skin and organ membranes. So whatever you're binding DMSO to is going to make the efficacy a lot stronger. It's getting deeper. And because of bospholac acid with its anti-inflammatory properties, we're able to draw that in past the first layer of our skin. And actually, even into organ, skin membranes all the way through. This is why DMSO and say castor oil packs work so well on something like cysts.
01:05:47
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Right. So pairing it with the frankincense with all of these incredible properties and we use this our salve as well. um it's It's transformed over the last four years and because we didn't always make our own frankincense. Now we do. And now we have an amazing lab, an amazing ah chemist working in there to help us develop our recipes, which we've got to a place now that I don't know if we can get much better. I'm really, really proud of what we have. Yeah, obviously, I'm a little bit biased, but just the feedback from everybody.
01:06:14
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that are buying the products and using the products, we are obviously a bit of higher a price point, but people are really, really concerned about quality these days. And I think we really hit the nail on the head. Yeah. Like we're, we're making this stuff in really small batches. It's very time consuming and laborious.
01:06:28
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And we're also incorporating alchemy. Yeah, we're incorporating a few ah techniques that no one else is doing out there. So we're, you know, with solfeggio tuning forks and the tuning and the theory that goes um into those and why they work on the body. you can You can use sound technology in a lot of ways. Yeah, we're frequency infusing. Yes. And what we're finding is that we have um yield charts. So we keep track of like how much um of each material we put in and what we're getting out and we track them a long time. And so we can change these variables like, well, let's try this frequency. Let's try this frequency.
01:07:12
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And over the past two years of research, we've dialed in the frequencies that um have made some like pretty amazing change. Like in, for example, we, nobody gets as much actual yield as we do.
01:07:27
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Yeah, we haven't found anyone else because we're looking at other yield studies that's producing. as it's It's gone up. So everything we're doing is changing and changing. We're now at the highest yield. We're trying to find other people that have the same kind of yield with us. And I think that's a massively to do with the amount of frequency that we're pumping into it. Well, it it is. Yield of what more specifically? So the yield of the oil itself. So you'll get a certain amount of yield of oil from a specific amount of resin. Well, we have come up, I think, like maybe 20%. 15 to almost 20% of the average yield. i would You have to double double check my numbers. Don't quote me on that. Since we started to use frequency to infuse it. And we're like, oh, what makes sense? We're 8% above.
01:08:02
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Yeah, about 8% above what the expected... Which is just for the nerds. So we also have um the toothpaste I'd say would be is what um I say is the standing star for me this year. So I developed the toothpaste recipe, the one that you have in Mexico, based on with what I have available here.
01:08:20
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Still really good. The frankincense is great for your mouth. It does amazing at coating your teeth so plaque doesn't build up. It's really good at getting rid of your gum line stains. And just overall health in the mouth itself because it's an amazing anti-inflammatory. It's analgesic. It's great for bacteria and fungus.
01:08:35
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But the lady that's making our – I don't think she wants me to name drop her. That's in our lab now making the frankincense with us actually came from the dental world. So she put in every single thing she could find that was good into that toothpaste for your mouth and for your teeth and took out everything that's not, including glycerin, which is in every toothpaste I've never found without one without glycerin.
01:08:54
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And literally everything in that, and I would use literally in the word literally, is amazing for your mouth. It is like a spiritual experience now when I'm brushing. And the stuff we have in Mexico is good, but it's not the same level as that. So I remember the last day because we bring this home, our own supply, I was using less. Oh! Like it has become an emotional experience using this toothpaste. Yeah. Yeah. And like and and now and now not even what I was dealing with before gum lime recession is going away.
01:09:19
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So it's mineralized in all my cavities in people's mouths. So it is. Yeah. I wouldn't say it's even a toothpaste therapeutic treatment for your mouth. And I love the passion you guys have for this. It just really, you you can't fake that. That's the thing. you can't fake it. and no And it's amazing. I'm curious, do you use ah yourselves, do you use DMSO so internally? Like you drink it? Yes. How much yeah yeah yes you drink It depends. And you have to be careful with this. And usually if I'm talking to someone or I'm doing a consult with somebody, I won't. Don't take anything I'm saying on podcast. Come in for a one-on-one consult because there are some contraindications that you need to know about. And I tell anyone if you're getting to know you use the usage of DMSO. Could you explain what a contraindication is? Contraindications means maybe you, let's take Sean, for example. Can I use that story, Sean? Yeah.
01:10:04
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Oh, the margarita story? So Sean's not a big drinker, but we went, he was feeling not so great one day. So we did an internal DMSO detox. He did, I think a half a teaspoon of internal DMSO. And then he felt great. So he forgot about it. and then he went problem And then he went out for dinner and we had a couple, he had some, a couple of mescalitas with some friends over a business dinner and he almost couldn't walk. Two.
01:10:23
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Yeah, because he was that drunk. Two margaritas and it got me like like like shit face. So just like the TMSO is going to increase the efficacy in the frankincense, it's also going to increase the efficacy in everything else you're putting with it, especially if you're taking it internally. So you need to be careful. So for myself, if I'm using it daily, I might just put it one or two drops in my tea in the morning. Something that's good for me. It's binding to it. It's fine.
01:10:45
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But if I'm trying to detox my body internally with DMSO, there's different protocols you can use. So usually, depending on someone who has, say like say, MS, which is can be tricky, um or or stroke. It's one of the protocols I used for two-HMX strokes. is they would take the DMSO and they would start at an eighth of a teaspoon and build up over a five to six day period until they were at a full teaspoon and then take a break for a few days and then potentially repeat the process if needed. Now you are going to smell awful if you are doing this. Like you're going to, yeah.
01:11:16
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yeah you There are ways to mitigate that. To a degree. And the nice thing is you won't be able to smell yourself, but you, everybody else will smell you. So that's the nice thing. That's why i don't, I can, I'm, some days I'll have as much as like 20 milliliters, you know, in juice in the first thing in the morning up to an ounce even some days. But like on those days, it's like every time my wife passes by me, it's like,
01:11:37
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Oh yeah, you will get me out of your office building. That's happened to a friend I know too. And I remember a few weeks ago, I was taking my daughter to school and it was like, um they were doing like this um ah Christmas photo shoot. So one of the teachers was like, oh, we need we need cash for the photos. So i went inside.
01:11:54
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And she was a little bit too close and and like, you know, like a foot and a half away. And I opened my mouth to say something. No, no, no, it's fine. The people change or whatever. And she almost as if like, you know how like when when there's a bomb that explodes, like everybody is thrown back by the sort of the shockwave. That's how it felt. Like, or like as if like, like, you know, you look at someone, they open their mouth, they have no teeth. Like that's kind of shock, the shock on this lady's face. So I'm like, oh God, I can't even take the MSO before her. That's it. maybe even Stay at home, get yourself an Airbnb um because your sheets will reek like it too. And you'll be able to smell those once you're done your detox. There are a few things. Chlorella ah helps helps decently.
01:12:35
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for for Yeah, I mean a little bit. i'll help mask it a little bit. There's nothing that works really if you're taking a high coat. You just have to go through the detox process with that. And you're going to smell like sulfur and that is not a very good smell for most people. Garlicky. Garlicky. Really, really garlicky. And kind of like a sour garlicky. Not even like not like it's cooking in the kitchen and I want to eat you know and garlic and onions on my potatoes later. It is not that kind of smell.
01:12:55
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So for most people, I'm like, do it slowly over a period of time. you know Maybe use one, two, three, four drops in your water. That's probably not going to do too much. But if you start getting up to you know a half a teaspoon to a teaspoon, of some potentially some people a tablespoon, yeah, you're going to smell really bad. But I mean, it's amazing topically as well. And you will mitigate that issue if you're if you're doing it that way. um And I use DMH so probably more topically than I do internally.
01:13:18
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um just because of contraindications. I'm very careful about what I'm putting in my body if I am using internal DMSO. And this means people that are on pharmaceuticals, for example. Now, I've done a lot of testing with ivermectin and I've used ivermectin and DMSO simultaneously. I never had any issue there. And if anything, it was better because the ivermectin's efficacy was increased.
01:13:36
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But that doesn't mean it's going to play nice with your statins or any other pharmaceutical drug. So you have to be very careful. And if you are not sure and you don't have guidance in that, stick to it topically. So a bit of a tangent here, but so I'm i'm guessing you you don't subscribe to the full on terrain theory where all the, you know, or microorganisms are are friends, I guess.
01:14:00
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I subscribe. I like the idea, but I guess my thought process is everyone's biochemistry is vastly different. And throughout the world, we're like, do this. Keto diet's for you. This is for you. This is for you. Well, we're all so different that we need to learn how to understand what our bodies are telling us and learn to listen to them. So what's good for some somebody else may not work for you or may not be as as good for you or may might not potentially not even be good for you at all. So I do like a lot of things about terrain theory, but I think it is more you need you are your own unique being with your own unique biochemistry, your own traumas. You need to figure out what works for you. And the biggest thing I say to someone, like I had someone be like, oh, these levels are high. I had it checked the other day. I'm like, how do you feel?
01:14:41
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Like, I feel great. Well, maybe don't need to rush in to get a drug for something if you feel great. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
01:14:52
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But I mean, we do need a bit of symbiosis, like even parasites. you know, there's parasites in our body that you need. They're good. We have symbiotic relationships with some of these. You don't won't don't want that many, but they do clean up some things. Yeah.
01:15:04
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yeah i'm glad ah Yeah, I'm glad it's not because it seems like, to me, it seems like a little bit of um almost like a knee-jerk reaction. We discovered that, you know, the whole virus thing was a scam and probably probably they don't even exist. Yeah. At least in the way that that we've been, at least on the way those ah images on Google come up. Yeah. Just all animations. But I think sometimes what can happen is because we found, okay, that's a scam, that's a fraud. We were lied to all our lives.
01:15:34
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ah we might kind of go in the exact opposite direction on the other extreme where all all of it's good, which I think is, I don't know if it's if it it did like, i don't know if some some of these psyops are designed where, you know, we kind of, for example, judge this is kind of a ah off the top my head, but i for example, when I went plant-based back in like 2016 for like a year and a half,
01:16:00
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When I found out that I was just kind of getting played for the most part, um I went full full on kind of carnivore, raw carnivore and keto and all this stuff. So then I figured out, you know what, actually for most people, the the balance is somewhere in between where some plants, some animal products, some carbs, and of course some fats and protein. I wish I could be vegan.
01:16:25
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But I can't. I don't have the ah the constitution. in like i have to i'm mostly like If I eat only plants, I'm in a permanent allergic reaction.
01:16:35
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Yeah, Sean should be mostly carnivore. And you're right. carnivore. Everyone's a little bit. I'm like you. i'm like I tried to go plant-based as well for a little bit um and vegan. I felt like I was going to die. I'd save so much money. it's... Yeah. And I love the sort of the idea of not harming, ah even though the the meat that we get here, like those animals, and I kind of say it in tongue in cheek way, but those animals that that we eat here,
01:17:01
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ah They have better lives than probably like 60-70% of humans. you yeah and of mean They're way healthier than a lot of humans. So like we source it in a way where they don't suffer. yeah And I think if everybody different or more people did that, it would be great. But even even ah despite all that, if I could not harm them even further and be healthy and my child be healthy and my wife...
01:17:23
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I would do it as well, but i don't think for more, especially if we're kind of from more European ancestry, yes you know, like a lot of, i grew up on a hunting ranch, so I have a little, ah thing i mean, you know, and we're going into like your, uh, your, you know, anthropological history, which could, you know,
01:17:41
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I mean, you're you're the way that your digestion works kind of crystallized 150,000 years ago or more, probably more than that. And it took an additional 200,000 years before that to get to that point.
01:17:57
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So, you know, this isn't something like a light switch that we can flick on and on. Like we' we are shaped by the processes of of nature over generations and generations and generations. And us as humans, we think 15 minutes is an eternity to sit and wait for an appointment.
01:18:19
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Where 15,000 years is actually, in terms of biological entities, which we are, for changes to occur, 15,000 years is nothing, literally nothing.
01:18:32
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Well, and that speaks to what we're we're seeing in the world now is like our bodies are not made to, have not evolved to be able to combat yeah EMF. That's been very recent. That's big one, yeah. then I also wanted to ask you, so I'm seeing a lot of this as well based off what we were just saying is how many people are harming themselves trying to heal?
01:18:50
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People are so, and and I love that people are enthusiastic, but I had another gentleman show up last last year for a treatment and he had an entire suitcase just for his supplements. And I mean a medium to large size suitcase just for supplementation. And I was like, okay, food is medicine. We can get mostly what I need from our diet depending on your you know biochemistry. You might need more magnesium. You might need more hydrogen. But what you are doing, and he's like, oh, I take this much activated charcoal every day. i'm like, okay, activated charcoal is great. However, you take too much of it, you're not absorbing proper minerals or nutrients. you know So I'm seeing a lot of this as people trying to, wouldn't say overheal, but they're trying to do everything at the same time based off you know a broad spectrum. And I think that people need to –
01:19:28
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Relax a little bit on that. yeah Well, I think that this why, you know, we do what we do because like not everybody has literally tens of thousands of hours to devote of their life to study the nuances. And that's where I think a lot of, lot of the nuance is lost. If you just, Just as an example, when use ChatGPT for researching topics that I know nothing about, I'm like, wow, this thing is amazing. For example, for Christmas, because I'm going to be 40 this year for my midlife crisis, I told my wife, I'm going to get back into making techno and stuff. I want to buy some cool shit. Me too, bro. I want one of those drum machines, synths and stuff. So when I asked ChatGPT, how do I connect this synthesizer or MIDI keyboard to my main controller? It's, wow. I'm like, amazing. But then when I ask something about health,
01:20:24
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I am like, I want to punch it in its little AI face. Oh, yeah, it's been corrected. Because it's so frustrating, yeah right? So that's what I think. If you're not an – I'm not purporting to be an expert in the the field of health because it's so vast. But if you're not an expert in a field or you're not well-versed in a field, it's very easy to sort of miss the little nuances. So just as an example, there was one lady.
01:20:46
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A few months ago, last year, she came to me and she had emailed in some lab tests she had done. This was just for the the pre concept like the the meeting that I have before I enroll the client you know and make sure that they're the right fit and whatnot and everything is is you know in sync. But so she emailed me all the supplements she was taking. So I counted them. i think it was about 48 supplements that she taking.
01:21:09
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And it was anxiety. so she had anxiety, brain fog. She couldn't sleep like really bad. It was really bad insomnia. And then a bunch of gut problems. Like you could like all of the problems.
01:21:20
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And I looked at the supplements. And to be honest, like maybe 20, 25 of them, about half or so, were great. And I used some of them with clients.
01:21:31
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And um ah some of them I would use if if you know for that indication specifically. But a lot of the other ones... Some of them were just plain horrific, never mind that. But some of them were basically counteracting the effects of others, if that makes sense. Yes, absolutely. So one thing was probably causing oxidative stress and inflammation, and then the other thing was kind of an antioxidant. So it's almost like, you know, like...
01:21:57
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ah sound sound waves depending on where like where speakers are situated in a room. Coherency. Or they can cancel each other out. So what I was setting up my studio monitors a few weeks ago and the bass really sucked.
01:22:11
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But when I would pan to the left or the right speaker, like real fat and punchy. So Chad GPT explained it to me. like Yeah, it depending on how the bass frequencies, where they meet, they can actually cancel each other. You can have like a spot in the room to your ear where there's no sound in that specific,
01:22:28
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wavelength So that's kind of the way I see it. like so people are doing things that are good for them because of all the research they're doing, podcasts and articles and whatever. And then they're doing things that unfortunately they're misinformed on and then they're counteracting those things that they were good for them. And that way they're kind of spinning their wheels or it's like two steps forward, one step back or two steps back depending on the person. So this is where I think...
01:22:53
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What we do is important because, again, not everybody has – I'm sure you guys have spent decades and tens of thousands of hours at this point that you can't get that in a weekend. You can't get it a year, never mind few weeks. Hold on. But you can pay attention. When you open the fridge and you see a jar of pickles and your mouth starts to water – Your body wants that, right? So there's little things that you can – if you would pay attention what's happening in your body this goes with tension with everything else, I now trust my body. If I really want that and we have to separate that from the mental mind obviously if we have sugar addiction or anything else, I need that.
01:23:28
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So if we can get more coherent with our own body, we start to listen. to that we're going to be able to muscle testing other things to be able define I was going to say yeah there's ways to be able to even without a large basis of health knowledge to know if something is good for you or not because you know you can get little less tear care your higher self does know right clear how you feel right
01:23:50
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Right. I'm so, I'm so frustrated. People looking at their blood tests and and I'm like, do you feel good? They're like, I feel great. I feel great. My skin is great. I'm healthy. I'm doing this and this. Then maybe this is not something you need to be concerned about. Obviously, as we age, want to keep an eye on things, but this is also ching, ching, ching, ching. You know how much money they get from testing. And,
01:24:09
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and But also the inverse of that is is is the exact same. So for example, just ah because i almost I was talking to this gentleman a couple of days back. So he joined the program um about four months ago and he was eating 60 to 70% of his diet was vegetables, he told me at the time.
01:24:25
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I'm like, let's get the shit out of your diet. You're going to love this. It's going to be great. And he did that and and and then about a month or so, I can't remember now exactly when, but he told me that he actually had some broccoli over the last few days. So I'm like, yeah that's fine. How was it? like It was horrible.
01:24:42
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It was horrible. I hated it I'm like, that's what happens. A lot of us, we are like, you hear this from an early age. You gotta eat your veggies. They're the most important thing. And people, a lot of the time, they're forcing themselves to do it. Or people that do the fasting or the low carb or the keto. And they're like, my favorite guru influencers, they said, this is gonna help me.
01:25:03
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And then I'm like, how do you – just as ah ah as an example, one one client, she was skipping breakfast and she has three kids. I'm like, okay, um if one of your kids didn't eat and left the house, how would you feel as a mother? It's like, oh, man, I feel horrible. Like I'd worry about her him or her all day. I'm like, I am the same if my kiddo doesn't eat enough. Now, should you then – how do you think I feel if you skip if you're skipping breakfast?
01:25:30
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like so Obviously, I'm not like your parent, I'm not your daddy, I'm not going to spank you or or reprimand you if you don't do what I recommend, but I kind of explain to clients, like that's how that's how the what you what do you think is good for your child, oftentimes, that's good for you.
01:25:48
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You've just seen you the the intellectual mind has been exposed to so much information where that's that's kind of, you're fighting that. So for example, people like you know people like honey, people like steak, people like butter, people like sweet things, you know fruit. And I have people coming to me that, like I had one lady recently, she she had like a couple of oranges, And she was so happy about it because she she was like not allowing herself to eat fruit for a couple a couple of years at least. She was kind of doing keto and up to caught up to carnivore. So I told her, no, you can eat fruit. You can eat as much as you want and you can eat a bunch of other sweet things and a bunch of other things that you want to eat. Totally. if You don't have to fight. It's healthy and delicious. And you're like, this tastes amazing. In my experience, your body wants that. And I think this is the other thing with intermittent fasting. You know, I'm someone that generally eats one meal a day, but I juice just because that's my what my body wants. However, like I'm feeling a little bit hungry right now. i think I'm going to have some poached eggs after this. I'm not manic about it. I listen to my body when it's ready, but I generally have more in energy and I feel better if I juice during the daytime and eat an early dinner meal and then I snack on grapes at night because I like to night snack and my body likes those. Yeah. So, but we're telling a lot of women in general that you should be intermittent fasting every day.
01:27:03
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Not everyone should be intermittent fasting every day. Once again, what is your lifestyle? What is your biochemistry demanding? And like men are solar, women are lunar. Do not expect your men to go without protein. Send him out of the house without protein. like You should be fasting at the beginning of the day. He's probably going to need that. So it's really, really, and I think that's another thing. That's why I want to hear what you talk about fasting. It's not the same size fits bill for fits for that either. And I've seen a lot of damage done that way.
01:27:28
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yeah Yeah, totally, totally agree. um just Just before we kind of like start winding down, I did as i didn't mention I want to ask you about the ozone and the the molecular hydrogen. Now you have the the machine. I'm guessing going to be bringing that to Anarchapulco again this year. Tell me more about that.
01:27:45
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I don't know much about it because it's always been like in Europe, it's so hard to get the tech. So I've never really gotten into a lot of these more esoteric things. One day, hopefully I will. but tell tell Tell us more about that and what's kind of the benefits there? How'd you get into it, et cetera? So, I mean, without going into super complex things, making it easier for the audience to understand, not that I don't think you're intelligent, but just for time. um I look at ozone is it's going to kill all the unwanted guests.
01:28:10
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Okay. And hydrogen or molecular hydrogen is we're going to reconstitute the body, build plasma, build your organs back. So we're thinking of something as far as like, say, mold, mold toxicity, super, super dangerous. Well, if I want to get mold out of the body, I'm going to use ozone. So the ozone itself is very unstable. It's O3, like we breathe in O2. This is O3, three parts oxygen.
01:28:31
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So what it's going to do, it's unstable. Those those oxygen molecules are going to hit that mold, eradicate it and then rebind into supercharged oxygen. Now, say you have a kidney that's not functioning or your liver is not functioning well or your vision. You have part of your organs that need repair. Maybe your skin, you know, it's getting wrinkly or a little bit old. You're dehydrated. Well, when we drink water, that doesn't go into our body immediately. This is also why we mineralize, for example. We need salt for that water to pass through our organs. What this fish technology does is it creates a gas called Brown's gas that goes in between the water molecules and vibrates them apart.
01:29:07
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and at the same time, electrifies those molecules. That electricity powers the mitochondria of our body, which is our cells' batteries. So that's going to give your body the energy that it needs through magnetism and through electricity. Separating those water molecules means it's going to allow your body to uptake more water because we uptake one molecule at a time.
01:29:22
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So really what you're getting is the fourth state of matter. It's negatively charged water plasma that you're, and your body makes molecular hydrogen, but it, during your digestion process, but it makes a very little bit but and it takes a lot of energy for your body to do that. So if you're able to just deliver molecular hydrogen to your body, your body gets to save all of that energy.
01:29:41
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Right. So have you heard of, hold on one second. I just want to touch upon the water part. Have you heard of structured water? Of course, yeah. So um have you heard of ah Gerard Pollack and Exclusion Zone Water? Yeah, I have his books, yeah. so yeah Yeah, so the the body actually goes to quite a, as Bo was saying, quite a metabolic expense, is an energetic expense to actually arrange, molecularly arrange water to be conducive to the biological processes of the body that takes energy. Whereas if you put structured water that is already prepared that way, so...
01:30:15
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um The equivalent of what the hydrogen is machine does actually does happen in nature. It's just people don't physically live in those locations very often. And what I'm talking about is like mountain aquifer streams. Hansa water is is one of the words it's called. It's ah it's actually a a Russian word too. So that this that term goes back actually a really long time because people realized that if they drank water from certain places that it would be clean, they wouldn't get sick, and then they'd live longer. and They'd live longer.
01:30:50
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And the hydrogen machine essentially synthetically creates that process. It's part of it anyways. um So that's in in one way of describing it. That's what it and if we think of what when the Japanese live longer, um we we attribute it a lot to their diet, which diet is a big part of that. But they have a higher concentration of molecular hydrogen in their water. And studies show within rats that if we're starting at a very early age, it's increased lifespan in rats by 37%.
01:31:19
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So that means they're living a hell of a lot longer. Obviously, this technology hasn't been around for a full lifespan. So i have someone, I actually have a pregnant lady right now on it And I'm like, ooh, let's make your baby live to 200. So we'll see. But for myself, I'm already pretty healthy. So the things that I've noticed is I have more energy levels. My skin's better.
01:31:35
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um My eyesight obviously has improved. My organ function. feel I feel like I'm in my 20s again and I just turned 40. I actually feel like I'm reverse aging. Every time I see somebody that I haven't seen for a while, like, how are you looking younger? And I'm like, eh, the water of the God. Well, you know, in the in a kind of more poetic way of putting it, you could you could look at aging as a form of cooking.
01:31:56
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um And you could even, you can find like... ah pathologists will literally say that. They'll say that like when you're young and you're a baby, your connective tissue is white. you know It's bright and it's white. And then when you get old, it turns brown. It's the same thing as when a chicken, you cook chicken. Aging is a form of cooking. And what is cooking? It's oxidizing.
01:32:18
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And we deplete hydrogen as we age. It's just one of those things like magnesium. And so when you drink hydrogenated water, it's it's slowing down or even stopping that cooking process. That's a very...
01:32:29
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non-scientific way of putting it. But and like that is, it it's not an analogy. it's It is actually what is happening. yeah Yeah, absolutely. and And just to let your audiences know, this is not quite the same as the hydrogen in the water bottles that you hit a button and it presses. um Those are good. and the The hydrogen pills that go in water are good as well, but this is actually the next state of matter. So it is not the same thing. Those will help These will reconstitute. And then this machine also, this electrolyzer produces a gas that you breathe. So your body's very intelligent. so when you give your body molecular hydrogen, it's going to send that gas where it needs to go for the most healing. So if you have liver issues or kidney issues, your body will send that gas there just based off intelligence.
01:33:07
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Or you can direct that gas where it needs to go with topical application because it's such a small molecule pass your skin membrane very, very easily through your clothes. Right. So we have goggles we put on. There's arm bags and leg bags. There was a story of a gentleman that had a bad bike a motorcycle accident that went down to one layer of skin on his arm. Well, he bagged his arm in molecular hydrogen. And after about a month, there wasn't even a scar.
01:33:27
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Yeah. Whoa. So how do I get a machine? So that is the question. And this is the other thing that people should know, because these are not cheap units. I bought the wrong machine a couple times. um They are not all created equal and you need to be careful and know a little bit about it before you get it. um The machine that we have, I feel, is the best price point.
01:33:44
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um It is about produces 25 percent more gas than than any made leading machine on the market. And it also has a safety precautions that you need. And if you treat this machine well, it will last your whole lifetime. There's some other things that are special about this one. It took me a while to find the engineer that made this specific machine.
01:33:59
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um But it depends where you are location-wise. Now, being that you're in Europe, I would like to look into potentially what you could find in Russia because they tend to have really great technology. No, we ship worldwide. And we do ship worldwide. worldwide.
01:34:10
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Yeah, tariff-wise, you're going to pay a little bit more. And if you're coming here, this might not be possible, obviously, for your clientele that are interested in the one that we have. But I find if you go to the States, buy it, put it in your suitcase, and bring it back with you. That's going to be the easiest way for you to get it in.
01:34:24
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it's It's not very – like, the latter if I recall correctly, it's like, what, like 20 inches? It's like 8 inches by 12 by 8 around. Yeah. It's kind of – it's – So I could put in my hand luggage if I have space? if i I would use it in a regular size suitcase because you're going to want to wrap it up, but you can break the tower part down. and use That's how I bring it into Mexico because shipping into Mexico is a nightmare. So when I come back to the States, I'll put one new one in my suitcase, zip it up, pad it up, and bring it in. So that's generally the best way to to get it in. But like I said, we do ship worldwide. It is a bit of a hassle obviously going to Europe as far as tariffs and as far as taxes go i mean and shipping. But, you know, for what you're paying, like I do believe this machine, this machine is in the $3,100 price point. i find i find this one comparable to the machines.
01:35:11
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Got it. Because I'm going to be 40 in like three months. Welcome to the club. So if I'm going to make weird and wonderful purchases, I have a narrow window of opportunity before my wife says, listen, snap out of this midlife crisis bullshit. So I have a, like I said, a small window of opportunity to get some cool stuff. Well, you can sell this one to your wife easily. It's going to reverse age her. Her wrinkles will melt away.
01:35:38
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ah Yeah, I just got for Christmas, I got her a red light face mask. She's loving it. But the thing is, we are like I was like not happy about what it costs for what you get yeah because it's only the red and not the near infrared because we already have two red light therapy lamps. like, she wants it. I got to give her what she wants. But if she hears all the anti-aging stuff, the skin stuff. Yeah.
01:35:59
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Yeah, so that's it. It's the biggest thing is the anti-aging. And for lung capacity, I kept i keep having my lung capacity test up when I go to California every summer. And every year, my lung capacity gets better. And marketably. like you know and i'm like in the course i'm Shut up and take my money. That's it, right? It's like, oh, breathing is good. Well, yeah, like we said, we're going to have one at Anarchapulco coming up in Puerto Vallarta. We're going to have one that everyone can try it out. And um yeah, we have a...
01:36:27
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Now, I want to go in. I think this might be a good connection for you, too. I'd love to link you up maybe for potential podcast with my ozone goddess. There's no other word I can use to describe it. She is one of the the pioneers, I would say. I work with a guy the pioneers that have been taught under their under their instruction for the last 25 years of ozone. We'd love that. So if you'd like to have a – she's going to be able to tell you so much. I know quite a bit about ozone, but she's the OG. Yeah.
01:36:50
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So I'd love to link you up with that. But it is is such an incredible therapy. And ozone machine ohzone machines are a lot more inexpensive than hydrogen machines to a degree, and they're easier to find. I have a firm belief if you have an ozone machine and a hydrogen machine in your but in in your house and some DMSO, you're never going to have to go to the doctor again unless it's for emergency care.
01:37:09
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You are 87% of that. If you know how to use that correctly, and I mean everything from dental and like ozone, it's not just the inter... inter um the IV ozone. There's also insufflation. There is injectable ozone, intramuscular. There's a lot of different rectal ozone, a lot of different ways to get it into your body. If you have those two machines, you're good.
01:37:29
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They're good. And is is an ozone machine the same thing as an ozone generator, right? Yes, it is a generator, but there are different ones for medical and for the house. Like I have a household ozone that will clean the room, right?
01:37:41
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That's not quite the same because you have to eat eat that. That's on what want. That will pull in gas from your environment. You want actually medical grade ozone when you're putting that into into your body. But the principle is the same. okay oh or You mean medical grade receive oxygen? Oxygen, yes.
01:37:55
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I have to see if this is available in Europe, but definitely like and I've been meaning to look into it. so You have some great ones coming out of Russia. i've looked and I'll send you my recommendations. You have some really good ones over there. that would be amazing. Yeah, yeah. And then when when i when I'm in Mexico, we can discuss potentially like the the whole shipping and logistics thing, I think. I think it's not too bad nowadays. I yeah i figured out ah with with the customs here, I have ah now finally like an account with them so I can clear things fairly easily. It's just just the cost is is normally like 50% on top of whatever, but that's... Before I forget too, I wanted to ask you, is there a way that we can get the hard copies of your books in Mexico?
01:38:36
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um Yes, i can i i'm I just ordered like 50 copies today to be sent to to to Puerto Vallarta. Oh good, so I can grab one there. and i'm really I'm really interested in both books, but the autism book, I hadn't heard about that until today. um And I'd like you to pair with of my friends. They're using iboga to treat autism in children and have gotten kids verbal again. And not in every case. This is very new.
01:39:01
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but i'd love to I'd love to hear about that. I kind of mostly, like I've only had one family that I'm still working with because I kind of joined my my longevity program. But if if we can share some of that information, because like I've worked with some some ah folks that their kids like are four, five, six nonverbal. And I mean, after after four, it's just, it's heartbreaking. So any anything we can, and and and like, for example, this family, they've done uh three fecal microbiota no they've done one fecal microbiota transplant and i think four or five sessions with the stem cells in serbia so like they've tried so much they've uh spent probably if not tens of thousands six figures at this point and very very little ah progress until the kids started eating meat because they were vegetarian eating meat and liver, eating meat and liver was the game changer. Obviously a lot of supplements that that helped, but I kept telling him like, you can't keep throwing more supplements at the problem. Sometimes you just need to give the kid like organic meat, red meat, liver. And I would say has been my thought process about stem cells has changed a lot too in the last couple of years. And that's mainly to do, I think with Dr. Edward group and his urine therapy. Um,
01:40:17
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you know We're paying a lot for stem cells our body already makes that are specifically designed for us and that are can be any stem cell. Okay, give me the... I have the i have two books, you know with ah the the two kind of first ones you you would get on on Amazon. and I did try it for a while, a couple of years back, but like I need inspiration. Give me the...
01:40:37
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the quick and dirty, what why why is it worth looking into? Well, number one the stem cells that you are getting from other people, for example, you don't know what is in their bodies, you don't know when they were harvested, you don't know how ethically things are taken in and how and if it's even the right stem cell that they're injecting in. They're not yours. They're not yours. Now, your body synthesizes 150 different kinds of stem cells when when you urinate that are designed specifically for you, never mind all the other antibodies it's giving you for. It's basically your own body's working vaccine, a vaccine that actually works, at ah that everything it's filtering out are creating antibodies for what you're dealing with if you're sick.
01:41:13
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So your body is very, very intelligent. And this is the same ladies with menstrual blood. You know, they make it know it's so gross. Well, what do you think the placenta was? And what do you think you were drinking when you were in the womb? You were surrounded in urine. Right. So I think this is another psyop that this has been like, OK, this is not good for you. Gross, gross, gross. Well, that might be the actual medicine that you need. And I've heard of some cases where people were on death's doorstep. They did urine therapy and they got healed. They healed.
01:41:36
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So I think that you maybe are looking at stem cells the wrong way. Your body's giving you stem cells. We are just flushing it down the toilet. And it's something newer that I'm starting to try as well. You know, there's one of those things I was like, if I ever really needed to do it, I would do it. But it's kind of gross.
01:41:51
Speaker
It's actually not that gross when you guys do it. It's really not. I've been using it on my skin. I've noticed my skin started to glow with it a little bit of a different way. And I'm like, ooh, it'll detox first. But that's very, very interesting. And i you know I haven't done as much work within my clinic as this, as I've just obviously been a newer convert of this. But Dr. Evergroup's been doing it for years. And just to hear his stories, his patient stories, and I know him, so I know that everything he's saying is true. looks very young. I'm sure he's not young he Even the last two years, I haven't seen Eddie in a little bit. He's literally reverse aging without Brown's gas as well. And obviously, stem cells aren't going to you hydrogen. But every time I see him, I'm like, damn, he's looking so good. He's like, I use it every day on my face.
01:42:28
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I drink it every day. Wow. But, you know, I saw a video on their YouTube channel and how they make their supplements. I'm like, what the actual... Dude. You know, like what like, what is going on in your brain? I don't know. They invited me to go to Arizona to look at to look at their... their all of their labs and everything they're doing. And i have never heard of any sort of company that is going above and beyond to make supplementation this ridiculous as far as temperatures of like glass, as far as everything. It is it it is a work of art. Fusing with frequencies. And apparently- Oh, they learned that from us.
01:43:05
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Just saying that was our suggestion. We are doing it though. We are talking about a lot. Yeah, that's parallel evolution. Yeah. You know, um i good ideas can can grow in different places simultaneously.
01:43:21
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I don't know about Europe and where you are, but I think if you are in Canada or the States and you are looking for a supplementation brand, you are never going to find anything better than global healing if they make what you are looking for just because of their care. um Everything they're putting in it as far as frequency, as far as temperature control, as far as literally everything. When he talks to me about it, I'm just like mind blown away. I'm like, I can't even think of you know getting into making supplements. that that you what What you do is just...
01:43:47
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But that's, you see, that's the reason I was watching the video because i like last year i was I was talking to some contract manufacturers and I had a guy that he does like regulatory as a consultant. So kind of was investigating like the feasibility. And then I i stumbled upon this video. I'm like, dude, I'm not doing this. Like unless I have my own lab that I have control over, I just cannot, you know, I'll just leave it to the experts. Yeah, you do. decades of experience Even now we've taken a step back with our products, but we like it. we put everything in Myron glass, which is the best glass that you can find in the world. And it wasn't even our idea. Our lady in the lab was like, this is what we are using and you have no say in it. I'm like, okay.
01:44:27
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to, you have to listen to it. But I do actually, I have been recommending their kidney cleanse. i haven't used a lot of their products, but I started recommending their kidney cle after I saw the way they do things. Like, you know what? I'm happy. His kid happens recommend his liver one is too. Have you tried it?
01:44:46
Speaker
Yeah. Have you tried them? Yeah. I've tried most of his products. i need to try them as well. Awesome. um what what just ah What other products do you have? It's all available on your website, right? It's all available on the website. So we have the eye drops, DMSO eye drops. We also make DMSO ear drops, great for ear infections, tinnitus symptoms. Sorry to interrupt. Sorry to interrupt. Tell us just – I have my client coaching call in 15 minutes, but we have a bit of time. I'm hoping – ah holding you for too long, but give us the quick and dirty on DMSO for the years, because that's another yeah thing that most people don't know about. Also, if people don't know what DMSO is, it's dimalthy sulfoxide. It comes from tree ligandum, which is an important component in plant cell walls. So when extracted and then applied, it increases our microcirculation to like a nuclear level. Also is an analgesic, which means it kills pain. It's an anti-inflammatory. and will help with lymphatic drainage and reconnection of the peripheral and central nervous system as well because of that.
01:45:40
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um So all natural. So when we're going to put it in the ears, we use we we we mix our mixture with our therapeutic grade frankincense, hydrosol, and some colloidal or structually structured silver as well. So being antimicrobial, being anti-inflammatory, being antifungal, which is a lot of things that we are dealing with the ears, or even just block the ears for lymphatic flow, we're going to mitigate all of those things with the DMSO and with the other additives that we are combining to it. And long-term effects of this, people have used it to treat all sorts of things like hearing loss and tinnitus. Now, that's going to be specifically different for every person. I get a lot of these questions. Is this going to fix this?
01:46:14
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Well, that depends on why you have it, how much the damage how much damage is done, and the efficacy can depend on how often you use it. So it's not a one-size-fits-all, right? And not every single person's journey is going to be the same, right? I say it treats tinnitus. i'm not going not going to cure tinnitus. Potentially, the people have had that effect happen, though.
01:46:32
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So that's a little bit different. The eyes as well, we spoke about that before. Similar similar principle on that as well. The more advanced... That's the ear clear product, right? That's ear clear, yeah. And the more advanced the product or the more advanced the condition is, the harder you're going to have to hit it in for longer generally.
01:46:48
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Sweet. Yeah. Because it's it's funny, but like so many of my my clients, maybe one out of at least like two out of 10 people have tinnitus. Yeah. Especially after like 50, 60. I don't know why. Now, I've never fixed tinnitus in a patient with just the DMSO ear drops, partially because I wouldn't just use the DMSO ear drops. I also use molecular hydrogen.
01:47:08
Speaker
So that was how I do with my vision as well, is I put the eye drops in. They got rid of my dry eyes, started to sharpen my vision, and then I added the molecular hydrogen with the goggles on that, and all of a sudden I don't need glasses anymore. So I think that compounding these two ah these two treatments together in severe cases are going to have the the most beneficial results.
01:47:25
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And how do you use molecular hydrogen for the ears? It's super easy. You can do two different ways. You can rig up your own little stethoscope that's pumping into your ears like we do with the ozone. Or what we do is we have a spot applicator and you can just literally put it over your ear.
01:47:38
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And what I would do if I'm oh yeah think treating the ears, I just put the spot applicator down and I lie down and I just have a little rest like that. Yeah, that simple. Because I think when when I was doing it with you guys out two years ago, there was something you put in the ears, wasn't it? And then on the nose, right? Yeah. Okay. Well, just goes over the ears. That was the cannula. Okay. I don't love the stethoscope method. I find them to be quite uncomfortable just having them in the ears. So most people are recommend, hey, if you're going down to sleep or you're going to have a nap, just put it under your ear. they day day it' It pumps actually more gas in that way and it feels a little bit better. The forward thinking paradigm...
01:48:13
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would say that actually having the cannulae over your ears exposes your ears to the electrical effects of the electrically expanded water. Yeah, that's in there. So it may actually have an efficacy just being in contact there, but that's future science. That's future science. Yeah, yeah. And then our other- Guys, really, yeah, go ahead. Then our other DMSO product is the frankincense, the DMSO and frankincense sacred salve.
01:48:41
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Sacred salve. Yeah. That used to be called Turbo DMSO and it was a cream-based product because I had what I have access to in Mexico and everyone absolutely loved it. Myself, I love a salve. It stays on better. It goes deeper and it's just a more healing feeling in general. So because we were able to do this in America now with everything they can get there. The sacred salve is actually, I would argue, our best product. It's Sean's favorite. I think we all we all have a favorite when what it comes to all of our – well, actually, I love them all, but you're right. Unfortunately, we we make like no money on it because it's so expensive to produce. It's got like 14 incredible ingredients in it.
01:49:19
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And when you combine those with DMSO, again – You am our power amplify all of them. And so people with like rheumatoid arthritis, yeah um this has been one of the the people they they can't find anything that helps. It made a skin. I actually removed a skin tag. Oh, that's right. You did. I put it. I just kept putting it on a skin tag in my armpit and it went away.
01:49:40
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like literally And even something me more complex like Rainier's syndrome. We've had a lot of success with DMSO with the salve with that as well. And I think the creams have been awesome, but the salve just holds everything on there longer um and it just goes deeper. So that one's probably been my... it's It's revolutionary. It's one of my other favorite new recipes that we've kind of... And I love this about making products. You're always coming up with something a little bit different, a little bit better. It's been four years of growing. And finally, I feel like we're at that place now that I'm like, I'm extremely proud of everything that we've turned out as a team.
01:50:08
Speaker
Yeah. I'm really, really excited about it. ah Do you ship to the U S you say? Yeah. you So you made in the U S. Oh, it's made yeah made in California in Mount Shasta, which is the root chakra of the world. And we're using the headwaters of Mount Shasta. I think there's some spiritual properties that come with that as well. No, no. It's actually hard get to get the Franks into Mexico now. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard for us to get our own products in Mexico.
01:50:30
Speaker
Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Okay. and do So do you ship that stuff worldwide? Yes, we do. There are – with some exceptions. um you know I think we had someone from Tanzania message us last week and there's just some countries that it's just too hard to get into. oh yeah We can ship anywhere. It's just well just how expensive it is. Exactly. He would have been paying six times the amount of the the product and it wouldn't even – generally, it wouldn't even – At the end of the line, they can still turn it away. So we will. We've gone pretty good with Sean. yeah We will ship to most countries, but, but touch base with us if it's a really, yeah. Cause we don't want you to pay so much for a product that you're never getting your hands on. It's just the way the world is with shipping. Right. So what I do with, with the situations like that is I will teach them how to make their own version of it within their country.
01:51:13
Speaker
And just curious, that that's actually something i wanted to ask. ah If someone can't, let's say, you you know, you can't get the stuff shipped, is it okay to mix, ah you know, let's say reverse osmosis water with a bit of DMSO to make your own?
01:51:29
Speaker
or or maybe saline solution. Yeah. Saline would be the way to go. Yeah. So honestly, we're here to help. We're not just here to sell you guys on stuff. If you are, if you have questions, message us and we will do our best to get back to you in, in, in a timely manner. I've, I'd help with people all the time. Like I don't, I can't get that here. i'm like, well, what can you get? Okay. Let's, I'll do a little bit of research. Okay. You can get this grade of DMSO. You can get this and this, how about you try this? Here's the percentages, or you can pick up a great book like DMS, DMSO decoded. We just did a podcast with the author Katie Evans on that. Amanda Ballmer's got a good book on it. There's quite a few. Do your research because they also have their own recipes in there. You can start to play with it with as well. that A little bit diverse. Yeah. You won't be able to get the frankincense hydrosol that we use, but you can get most of the other stuff. And um yeah, it's very it's very yeah it's it's not it's not rocket science. But you do need a bit of an education because it is a powerful solvent and you need you need to understand not just contraindications, but the chart as far as um how how much you're adding to what with concentration levels should be. That's important.
01:52:28
Speaker
and You don't want to throw yourself into a herxheimer reaction or a healing crisis that you might not be able to get out of easily when that could have been avoided. Yeah, and when when i I have, ah I give my clients this recipe of DMSO and magnesium sulfate, which is great for like pain and and stuff. And like in bold, I'm i'm always telling people, make sure you apply it kind of later in the day and never like if you're going to exert yourself. Because actually the way I learned that is, I was using i had some pretty bad back pain when when we were moving apartments here. I did the whole move myself few years ago and kind of messed up my back. But then I discovered DMSO and I started applying the DMSO to my lower back. And that's how I'm putting my my baby in the car. i put my i Basically, i kind of...
01:53:16
Speaker
I um overstretched the ligament, I injured the ligament that took like more than a year yeah to heal. it nasty So very important to, like if you're going to use something like this, that's so powerful, just do a bit of research. I tell people, kind of thing oh totally clean hands and clean skin. right It's trans and dermal, it'll bind everything to it. And I say, you know i'm not i i don't say to apply it later in the day, I say wait 30 minutes if you're going to exercise. DMSO is going to be pulled into your skin in about 15 minutes. um But that's great that you're giving people that precaution because that's one of people's number one mistakes is they are not careful about the sanitization, the cleanliness. And if you're sweating, you don't want to pull that sweat back into your body.
01:53:55
Speaker
Exactly. yeah Exactly. So true. So true. Guys, you are a wealth of knowledge and it's just I feel like we could talk for hours. and we For sure, we'll have you. We'd actually like to invite you on our podcast next because Sean's super interested in a lot the stuff you're doing and he's like, need to talk to him. I would love that. Thank you. Yeah, for sure. And definitely when I see you in Mexico, I want to do some of the, like obviously I'm going do the treatments, the body work. That's like absolute no-brainer. But I want to try some of these products, the Sacred Salve, especially like you. You seem like you're pretty excited about that one. really excited about that one. Hopefully we'll have lots of... We'll make you up a little package. We're trying to do this for a lot of our speakers. So we'll get you... I'd be happy to pay because I have... Nothing brings me more joy than supporting people small businesses like this. So I would love to just support you because... You're doing, as they say, God's work, like Lloyd Blankfein would say, you're doing God's work, except not in the way they're going to be doing it. Actual part of the solution kind of way, you know? You are too. Thank much. So thank you so much for being here. Before we wrap, just, I know you have a lot of like different outlets where you are that folks can connect with you. Just if you can list the best ways people can connect with you guys. Take it away, Sean. It would be awesome. Sure.
01:55:17
Speaker
iHeal Collective. That's a... like the letter I and then H E A L I heal collective. We're on all the major social media platforms as that. So just I heal. And our website. And then it's I heal collective.com. We've got lots of great articles and lots of research that, um, should get a nice rabbit hole journey for every inquisitive young self healing genius out there. So the website's fun. and Sean's done a lot of work from it coming from Hollywood and film. Yeah. It's it's pretty interactive website. Yeah.
01:55:49
Speaker
yeah that's and we're gonna post this on our socials as well so um our if we can and we'd love where where can our audience find you uh uh live longer formula.com that's kind of my main main website now that's kind of how you can get into the of course christian jordan off for the podcast players instagram i don't i don't post much on instagram and stuff or whatever but if people want to message me they can do that that's the easiest way are your books available on amazon as well just Yeah, just Amazon.
01:56:17
Speaker
You can get hardcover of the Live Longer, Live Longer, of up with How to Actually Live Longer, Volume 1, and then actually, don't don't know when, but in the next few months, my next book will be, wait for it, The Fasting Delusion. You might wreck Anthony's life, you know.
01:56:40
Speaker
Not fully, but... kind of We've had some heated debate. No, you can't. can't wait. The thing is, people will only agree with you if if they already do. So i don't want to change anybody's mind about it. Because the thing is, people that are healthy...
01:56:56
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They will be fine with fasting probably. yeah It won't hurt them. It's just from my experience, the the kind of clients that came to me, even that had done the you know the fasting at the retreat center and stuff, like it doesn't work out well for people that are in a rough place with a lot of stress, nutrient deficiencies. And in those cases, people can really wreck themselves yeah with fasting.
01:57:18
Speaker
Interesting. i am so I believe in fasting, but I'm so open to alternatives. If you if if you're this book is about them as well, because I've seen the challenge that some of these people go through at the beginning of that. And if there's another way, i am all ears. Change my mind. I am here for it.
01:57:34
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And the that's the thing, like I discovered this from from one one um naturopathic doctor called Brian Walsh, I did some of his courses and and um he opened my eyes to this actually quite a long time ago, maybe 2019. But what a lot of people don't know is we we accumulate, you know, the the basically all of these sort of organochlorines, PCBs, all of these persistent organic pollutants that don't biodegrade. Those, not only do they get spread like everywhere around the world, first of all, including like places that people don't inhabit, but they travel up the food chain and then they get sequestered in kind of the the the apex quote unquote predators, with you know, fish, fish. ah tuna, and of course humans. you know
01:58:21
Speaker
So we actually are... ah fat that's kind I'm just giving a ah sneak peek, you know one of the major reasons. that So we are accumulating these POPs, these persistent organic pollutants in our tissues. So like if you like one of you guys, you're healthy, you're doing DMSO which supports detox. So people like that, they're going be fine. Someone's been on the health journey for five years, let's four five years, and they've gotten rid of all the omega-6 PUFAs out of the body gradually, they're maybe closer to the ideal weight, they're not carrying like 30, 40 plus pounds of weight, those people be fine. But you have someone that has excess fat, that's been storing the stuff because they've been eating stuff that's got pops, lot of PUFAs, if you just suddenly release this into the circulation, that actually can outweigh, at least in some cases, it can outweigh all the other benefits the fasting and the rest. like that. It's mechanistically logical.
01:59:18
Speaker
Yeah. Right? It's logical. I think a lot of a lot of people that are healthy and do fasting, and young, they they feel they have benefits and then they think it's it's amazing for everybody. And I think this is the, and as practitioners, we should be, like you said already, Baudre, everybody's individual.
01:59:38
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and like like I have 60, 70-year-old ladies that are with osteopenia or straight-up diagnosed with osteoporosis. like I would never have them fast or intermittent fast because they were already in a catabolic sort of state for decades on end. We have to get them anabolic, building tissue, building bone and and muscle and stuff, or at least maintaining it, ah ah not allowing further deterioration and degenerate. So it's ah it's a much more nuanced thing that fasting is good because of autophagy. you know Right. but That's the, I think the narrative in the mainstream You know, you just tied that into exactly what we talked at the beginning. The order in which you do things is very important.
02:00:18
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Interesting. Oh, I can't wait to nerd out with you about this and and and a few other things. But I know you have to go because you have your your other meeting there. But this has been such a good time. yeah Thank you for hanging on for a couple of hours. I normally don't go this long because yeah I'm trying to be respectful people's time. But it does feel like we could nerd out for hours. It's our pleasure. It's literally our pleasure. We're super, super, super happy. Thank you for so much for having us on. Thanks so much.
02:00:42
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Thanks, guys. Have a good day.