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Christian Yordanov: Hey folks, welcome back to the show. Christian Jordinov here. Today's guest is a returning guest. His name is Lumos with the Chanted Down podcast and Chanted Down radio. He's a filmmaker as well. And the subject of today's discussion will be his documentary Sacred Sight, which is going to be an exploration, ah look at the lost ancient megalithic civilizations that once spanned the earth so it's a fascinating topic i was recently in egypt in i guess in january about six weeks ago so i'm very fascinated by the topic so uh lumas welcome back man it's been it's been quite a while
Luemas: Yeah, yeah. it's It's been a long time. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate it
Christian Yordanov: yeah yeah my my pleasure so um of course for for folks listening we're gonna have the links to rumble and youtube to your um documentary sacred site but before we kind of get sort of dig deeper can you tell me what sort of prompted you to start digging in this at this specific rabbit hole of all the rabbit holes that you had the choice of
Luemas: Well, I've been through many rabbit holes during my 13-year tenure at Chanted Down podcast, but I started traveling.
Luemas: It was 2015. I went to Peru, and that really like opened me up.
Christian Yordanov: Thank you.
Luemas: I had read Graham Hancock's Fingerprints of the Gods a long time before that, and then I'm like, oh, wow, this is all that stuff I kind of read in there and, you know, I was kind of rusty on it. So it kind of like my podcast, I started to talk about the ancient past here and there. And then in 2022, I went to Egypt and I thought, I'm going to get a bunch of footage. I think I want to make a documentary, but it was still like I hadn't birthed the idea yet.
Luemas: So I was like, yeah, I'm going to get a bunch of footage. and And of course, as you know, just recently going to Egypt, it really like opens you up to just how crazy all this really is that, that, that this all happened, that people did this stuff and and how, and, and,
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: with With sticks and and ropes.
Luemas: Yeah, and copper chisels that would break on on a on a harder harder stone than the chisel. So it it it was just like, so it got to of this point um in which, okay, I got all this footage. I'm like, huh, going to make a documentary on Egypt, but really...
Luemas: look, I don't know what I can add to Egypt. And then a friend of mine contacted me um here, and he talks about this in a mysterious book. on the the i live on Oahu Island, for those of you that don't know Hawaii very well. It's the main island, but the big island is not the main island, but big in space. And he lives over there, and he's like, you know, you need to come over. We're going try to find this lost pyramid in this book. And so what ended ended up happening is...
Luemas: I started to look around locally for sites that are here. And it opened up my eyes to the fact that there's a huge cover up in the world, that there was a worldwide megalithic civilization. And we a lot of us know that, but a lot of people aren't looking in places like here. I got friends in Australia looking. ah And so we're expanding the map. And that's how this sort of came about. Um, and it went kind of in the broader direction of the bigger world megaliths.
Luemas: I don't miss out on talking about it, but then we go on actual expeditions to find things out here and in Australia. So it was pretty cool. Um, It's kind of like the pilot because this is a season. It's a season one. Season one's two episodes. Season two, we really get into the the explorations. It's not out yet, but that's where it's going to get real big. But I'm trying to build up the audience for season one because it...
Luemas: there's a story behind it too how i had to take it off for a while i was trying to get it on netflix and it couldn't be out so um it kind of lost its momentum but yeah i my friend was going to get it on netflix for me but it can't be out in the world it can't be on youtube if they want to release it there so it missed its opportunity and they didn't want it on wo woke flicks um they didn't like some of my ideas about you know i have to sprinkle in the truth of nowadays too which i do in their sacred site with your eyes is how it's spelled like sight with your eyes because we need that sacred site to see through the lies of this world and so i put both in i put modern day things in there too a bit just to kind of get people realizing that there's we're we're um far off from the truth here on this planet yeah
Christian Yordanov: what happened
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Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, man. So my understanding... Okay, so what so just... but Actually, of I've been... One of my next places I'd love to go would be Peru for just to kind of see those some of those sites.
Christian Yordanov: They're absolutely mind-blowing just looking at pictures, you know.
Luemas: Oh, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: But so what what brought you to Peru in the first place?
Luemas: Well, my wife just wanted to go for a trip to hike Machu Picchu.
Christian Yordanov: Okay. Okay.
Luemas: My wife and i are from different countries and we were long distance for three years. And so we would plan meetups places.
Luemas: And we started out, we did decided to do a Peru trip together and, and So it wasn't related to anything that I'm doing, but it certainly spawned my interest in it because this would be in the first time I saw Megaliths up close and stuff that is just really mind blowing because Peru and Egypt are equally as mind blowing, different, but similar.
Christian Yordanov: Interesting.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: So, yeah, both worlds.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, yeah i think yeah i think I think Peru is just the the complexity of those structures is a little bit more... you know, there's a lot more complexity and and intricacy whereas, you know, with with the... We were actually inside the Great Pyramid there, end of January, dude, and like just... ah So when when we we landed in Cairo, it was very late, like 11 in the evening.
Christian Yordanov: So we got to the apartment, it was very late, but in the the morning when I woke up and I just, you know, drew the curtains, dude, you could see the pyramids, like the the Great Pyramid was like really close.
Luemas: Mm-hmm.
Christian Yordanov: And i could like me and like my wife and my daughter, we were just like there for like 10 minutes, just like, just beholding it. And I was like every few, every sort of few seconds, like, whoa, like just like making like animal noise.
Christian Yordanov: Oh, wow. You know, so but then we went inside the pyramid up the Great Pyramid, which was quite, quite difficult because it's so hot and humid. But just like the the feeling, it's almost overwhelming.
Christian Yordanov: It's it's difficult to to explain, like if you if you haven't seen it what it, what the feeling is like, you know. But my understanding is that there's pyramids also in in Bosnia.
Christian Yordanov: And can you tell us where else else there's pyramids that maybe you're going to explore with you with your team?
Luemas: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I did go to Bosnia. And that is in the documentary that's in the chapter one of the season one.
Christian Yordanov: Oh, wow.
Luemas: And I'm not positive that they are pyramids.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Luemas: The claim is that they are. And there's there's a lot of people on both sides of the fence. I kind of right in the middle. i but But the theme works with my documentary about buried pyramids and megaliths because it's important to realize that I think... I'm pretty sure most people agree that these these structures all over the world were buried. Some were buried from the flood and catastrophes.
Luemas: And so we haven't found them all. And that would maybe be the case with Bosnia and the Bosnia Imperium itself. There's about maybe like five there or something.
Luemas: um
Christian Yordanov: Wow.
Luemas: ah I was on the main one. And here's the thing that that blew my mind. Like, I can't still say, yes, it's definitely a pyramid. But when I was up there, and I'm not a new age kind of like ah enthusiast kind of person, like but I felt the energy of this place.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: And it was something else.
Christian Yordanov: Mm.
Luemas: It was like really good healing energy. People go there to heal from diseases.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Luemas: So I i actually really liked the feeling.
Christian Yordanov: Wow.
Luemas: And if it isn't a pyramid, it's definitely an energy spot. And it has it's a real energy that's there. There is some stones, some like casing kind of stones on the bottom portion.
Luemas: But I don't know what they are. And and there're you can you can, again, lean on either side of the fence and hear people trying to debunk it. Or you can hear people that are totally enthusiasts of it.
Luemas: And i don't know yet. like I think it needs a deep dive. But the guy who's in charge of it, he's pretty convincing if you listen to him talk.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: So you know it's interesting. But it does go with the theme of buried structures all over the world, for sure.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. And what do you what do you make of the locations that you've kind of examined? Because I know I'm not definitely like versed in this, but I know that obviously the the great the three ah pyramids of Giza, they're aligned with the Orion belt. So there're they're really...
Christian Yordanov: that specific place for a reason and then potentially some of them are on ley lines have you kind of looked on the placement of them as ah as it relates to ley lines or other potential um ah important landmarks I suppose
Luemas: Yeah, I have. There is definitely ley lines where a lot of these are energy spots. And the saying kind of goes on my show, a good spot's a good spot. So people knew a good spot when it was a good spot and they built on it.
Luemas: And sometimes in some cases they built on top of other things that were there. And so I believe that many of the structures are on this planet on energy spots.
Luemas: My friend, Zach, who's in the documentary, Zach Royer, you can check out his stuff, zachroyer.com. He has a book called Pyramid Rising and his theory, and it's only a theory, he doesn't say he's 100% on it, but it's an idea that maybe these structures were put in place
Christian Yordanov: Wow.
Luemas: on the earth to prevent it the earth from having more cataclysms to as kind of a almost like a band-aid to stop ah on these energy spots to kind of stop the earth from becoming a disaster zone. because ah but We don't know, but there's there's a lot to do with energy.
Luemas: And a friend of mine ah has a meter. It's a trifield meter. And you can put it or even you can just put a compass on these spots. And oftentimes there's weird anomalies with these these um these instruments when you...
Christian Yordanov: Wow.
Luemas: measure them.
Christian Yordanov: Interesting.
Luemas: So yeah, there's very much so. Now I'm not of so much convinced that the great pyramids are orion with or aligned with Orion because there's a theme throughout this megalith world of the triptych, the three pyramids.
Luemas: And I might think I might lean more toward that than I do the alignment of Orion's belt.
Christian Yordanov: Okay.
Luemas: I mean, it's a it's a theory, but the triptych is, you know, the three doorways.
Christian Yordanov: Okay.
Luemas: And you'll see it a lot if you start looking at everything. And i mean, they even use it in churches, too. And so I'm more convinced that the three is more that than it is alignment with Orion's belt, because if you look at the actual alignment, a little bit off.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, yeah.
Luemas: of the great pyramids of the three but then again that yeah well the triptych is is is a is a common thing you can see throughout the planet of three of ah a symbology of three uh you'll see it um in some of these ancient sumerian tablets um you'll see it in Well, you'll see the Egyptian lore as well.
Christian Yordanov: Okay.
Christian Yordanov: And when you say the triptych, what does that mean?
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Luemas: You'll see like three sets of things and it's and it varies, but it's consistent throughout ah all these spots. It seems like there's a there's a some something to do with...
Luemas: Well, I'm not the best one to explain this, but there's the three doorways and then the middle door, and then there's it's a consciousness thing. There's the right door and the left door.
Luemas: And so it's it's ah it's a um it's it's, I think, more that than anything else. I think it's throughout the ancient world. You can see it at Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, I think, too.
Christian Yordanov: Interesting.
Luemas: so So there's some symbology that they were... they knew about way back then. And if we were supposed to be like primitive hunter gatherers, they were pretty smart then. And I just don't think so.
Luemas: I think their timelines are all messed up, man. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, I absolutely am convinced we are lied to about a lot. There's a lot of, ah suppose, misinformation now that can be really fed into the into the collective psyche, with especially with AI and fake fake pictures and stuff. But um for sure, certain in my heart that there was some kind of more advanced civilization or or multiple more advanced civilizations over...
Christian Yordanov: the aeons and these a lot of probably these um these um let's just call them lizard people affectionately they basically appropriate they take they they're like oh we built this or or like we we know a little bit of the story here but we're gonna kind of change the narrative to suit our ends and goals you know
Luemas: Haha.
Luemas: Yeah. Yeah, totally. They, they, yeah, I mean, there's, a there's different ways of looking at it. It could be that their relatives did build these and they, they, that might were be where we get this origin of the right to rule like royalty and world royalty, but it could be that they just, they, they think that they're,
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Yeah.
Luemas: associated with these, but they're not. I i mean, we don't really know, but i I would assume that power doesn't like to be given up easily. So throughout the line, i believe you can kind of trace a lot of the power way back even.
Luemas: So it it it more than likely is the people that been trying to rule our world forever and still presently are.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Luemas: i I don't know if there's a change in that power or just... Well, you know, we, I've done enough research that I feel like there's different hot heads of the Hydra, you know, they're fighting factions, but they, they all do want us, they all do want to control us and we're not in their best interest. I know that.
Christian Yordanov: yeah yeah so where where obviously you you live in hawaii and you've've you've done the the the exploration there and we we can touch on that soon but what what other notable places have you been that you care to share looking at these pyramids
Luemas: Yeah.
Luemas: Yeah. So the documentary, it goes, um it goes pretty, I mean, it goes all over. I, I, it, I go to, I, I do stuff on Egypt and Peru in it more so showing the little like montages showing how impossible all this was to build.
Luemas: But I also, as well as Stonehenge in England and Avesbury Hinge, Malta, Bosnia,
Christian Yordanov: Wow.
Luemas: australia and four hawaiian islands so the the documentary takes you all over so um a lot of people like it just for simply i mean if they're not even into this that much they're into the locations and the cinematography and just seeing like places you know that um are on the planet that
Christian Yordanov: well
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Luemas: are pretty amazing. So it it connects this world. and Like i say, this is like a pilot for what's about to come, but I wanted to lay the groundwork that of the bigger known spots in the world in this first set, this first season were pretty much next season. We're going to, into all new terrain just about. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: amazing and what what was the mark because we were with um with my wife in Malta I think in like maybe 2018 was it the hypogeum was that the the particular exploration there wow
Luemas: Yeah.
Luemas: Well, there's that, but there's also a lot of there's Gigantia and there's a bunch of other um megaliths there.
Luemas: They have some of the hardest names to pronounce because it's a combination of Italian and Arabic language there.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Luemas: i I found some of the names pretty funny. Like there's this one road we were on. It's called Limity Tall Busket. And i was like I was like, wow, that's a funny word. But yeah, and there's cart ruts there too. I look into some of these cart ruts that are interesting. These these big ruts in the rocks. It looks like carts were dragged through it, but we don't really know what they are.
Luemas: So um I did quite a bit And the elongated skulls there that were found too in the Hypogeum. I went into some of that as well. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, i I have very little recollection of that trip because I was just mainly suffering from the heat and the humidity. I don't do well in those situations.
Luemas: Oh, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: But I remember i took it. i had a camera with me. I don't normally bring a camera, but I was taking pictures like everywhere. And so my my wife loves this kind of stuff. She was like, I remember, um yes, Corbo, that's another.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, yeah. was just looking here on the um on on on Wikipedia, but. It absolutely was just because such a small little island, I forget was like 20 by 40 kilometers or something, tiny little island to have this, like, it and it kind of makes sense why Malta, you know, how you have the Knights of Malta and so on, why it's such ah an important strategic spot beyond its you know, geolocation.
Luemas: Yeah, it's really small. Yeah.
Luemas: Right.
Christian Yordanov: There's something there, there's an energy or something that they're harnessing potentially for, you know, power purposes, I would say.
Luemas: I would agree. Yeah. I, I think that, um, some of the biggest control in the world is from the Knights of Malta too. So, uh, it's a big club, that's for sure.
Luemas: And, um, but yeah, it's strategic point between Europe and, and, um, Africa.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: It's just right in between there. And, and it's, it's an interesting place.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: It's weird. It's a weird place on Earth where it's just a combination of those two kind of cultures. And there's Gozo, the other island. That's where they have Gigantea.
Christian Yordanov: Oh yeah.
Luemas: That has these huge, huge walls.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: And they're, yeah, it's massive. and And a theme that comes through a lot of this is giants. And i i think there were giants on this planet. I really do. um The Smithsonian is known for covering up giant skeletons and ah in more modern day. But like in the ancient day, like that's that's who was said to have built these sites. And I think an important point to make, I mean, your audience probably doesn't really need this, but... Just to say, ah there's a lot of attack on this kind of research out there that it's, we're trying to separate the cultures from the megaliths. For example, like we're we're saying the Incas did not build the megaliths in Peru, or the Egyptians, as we know of, did not build the megaliths.
Luemas: the mo the pyramids. And it's not that we're trying to take away divorce from these cultures, but simply they say they didn't build them. Either it was the gods, the giants, or ah they came upon these sites and used them for other things. And that probably is the case with Egypt, as you've been there recently. Were they tombs? um Really weird for tombs, and especially the pyramids.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: Because if you go to Luxor, I don't know if you went to Luxor, ah But they have you you did the value the kings.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, we didn't. Yeah. No, we didn't. No.
Luemas: Oh, OK.
Christian Yordanov: No, yeah.
Luemas: That's where you find the tombs and they're all decorated in hieroglyphs and they're like different. They're up high on. And, you know, it's like that's those are tombs. So I just don't really buy tombs.
Luemas: completely that the great the pyramids were tombs i think later they were made it used as them possibly but yeah there's more to it than that but yeah we're not trying to separate the cultures but oftentimes they attributed the architecture to the gods or to the um the the to giants or something that was different than you and i homo sapiens sapien sapien
Christian Yordanov: yeah maybe maybe that's where the nephilim the nephilim comes from or you know we have they have these myths of um the cyclops and so like when you think about it may maybe with some long lost or or hidden technology and giants actually working on these then it makes a a lot more sense if you have beings that are
Luemas: and
Christian Yordanov: And I think that's where some of this other mythology, like Jack and the Beanstalk, maybe that's where over the, the, the sort of the hundreds of years of these things developing into like children's stories.
Christian Yordanov: That's where they're hiding the some of this mythology in plain sight for the plebs to kind of, so, so the exoteric aspect of it, while the esoteric is hidden only to those who know.
Luemas: yeah that i've never even thought about jack and the beanstalk as an example but you're right um there there's a lot and uh you know um i think that they place it in i even think they placed it in um the the newest star wars movies that were really crap uh the disney ones um they had uh the the boss i don't even remember his name but he was he was hologrammed as a giant and and uh uh you know everybody else was small compared to him but yeah it's interesting because if you look in these tablets the sumerian tablets are a great example of how you'll see these huge people holding up like humans and um you know the first humans the adam who they call them was where you get adam from and They are holding up their new creation.
Luemas: And these are huge beings and they have a human and it's like the size of a pet or something, you know. So, you know, I don't know.
Christian Yordanov: yeah and that Yeah, and I did see in in some of the museums in Egypt, some of the artifacts and the doorways and and the statues, they definitely looked like larger beings.
Christian Yordanov: that Maybe not like giants, because I think when people think of a giant, you're thinking like of a 300-foot sort of thing, but it it could well be that they were just maybe, you know,
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: I don't know, 30 feet or something like that. so So some of some of it deaf and some of the sarcophagi or whatever were definitely very large. So if that was indeed ah like a tomb or or whatever, a grave, it was for very large humans, at least when you kind of just cursory look around.
Christian Yordanov: because me me me and my wife being you know tinfoil hatters we're like oh what are they hiding here or is this real you know where where's the real good stuff now in these museums they're like where is it is it all in in in you know in england in the uk that the smithsonian kind of took in so we're constantly like questioning and i'm always like i remember we were in dude we were in this place in spain which was kind of
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: kind of close to the the Portuguese border and this this is like ah a town that history forgot where they have very few roads it's a lot of it is sand and they just are on horse dude on horseback it's really quaint and I love that my wife hated it because it's so hot and you know she was pregnant at the time but um the the the buildings the church the buildings there were just
Luemas: Oh, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: unbelievable like from from um I was like I honestly think this was like probably ah from sort of this quote unquote tart Tartary Tartaria civilization that there was like whatever the cataclysm and a lot of this these buildings were probably built during that time because the the intricacy like we we can't even like if you look at the rest of Spain and Portugal just driving around you don't see things like that So we were always like questioning, could it be, you know, something from ah from another era hundreds of years ago that history now has been wiped?
Christian Yordanov: It's pretty fascinating.
Luemas: Yeah, yeah, I know that's a thought out there, too. I mean, more modern day, but still like, were they building places to accommodate giants, too? Because when I was in Malta, that was another thing.
Luemas: I went to one of the I went to the museum there. That's where I saw those skulls.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Luemas: And I was looking, it was in this like ballroom or whatever it was. And ceiling the ceiling was so high. i'm like like, why? And the doors are so, why do they build these things so high? Like what' what's what wass the purpose?
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: I made their their there' ceiling washing a whole lot harder. i mean, you know, I...
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: Yeah, but yeah, it's interesting to think about that too. Maybe maybe we had giants around a lot sooner in history than we think because I do have a section in Sacred Sight about giants and I kind of go into it a little bit just as a taster or a teaser.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Christian Yordanov: Awesome.
Luemas: So, but yeah, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: That's awesome, brother. um
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: So, walk us through. So, tell us more about your exploration of Hawaii and what you found there. Obviously, like I said, because of the issues with getting stuck in Mexico, um' behind a week on my...
Christian Yordanov: on my everything i want to do but i definitely have these on my playlist to watch but i did kind of browse through so some of it is like pretty fascinating some of the footage you've gotten is really really um just gorgeous so tell us about the whole sort of adventure of exploring hawaii
Luemas: Oh, thank you.
Luemas: Yeah, so it's um it's really exciting. So we we went on about, let's see. three journeys to explore different alleged pyramids here in Hawaii.
Luemas: And one of them was in a book and a mysterious book.
Christian Yordanov: you
Luemas: And so that one that one took us deep in the mountains and we looked for that. There was another on the island of Kauai.
Luemas: That one, i even found a carved stone. And that one is, is reinvestigated in the second series. um There's been more recent discoveries with real stone work and megalithic work here that isn't in the first one yet. So I i hope the first one kind of wets people's appetites. But what's I guess there's a feeling when going out on these missions, it's like you're
Luemas: it's almost like rebellious. We're going out to uncover something that's being purposely hidden and changing history, even if it's just in a small way. But to think that the Hawaiian Islands are the most isolated island chain on Earth and that people came all the way out here and still built megaliths is pretty, pretty crazy to think about and still built pyramids that they even that idea even made it out here to this these specks in the ocean.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Yeah.
Luemas: That's pretty fascinating. And that my friend Triffin, who does Unlocking the Code podcast, we're good friends. And um I went down to Australia where he's from. And we uncovered, we looked at the Gympie Pyramid. We looked at a wall that's in this town, that's that polygonal masonry, stuff you find in Peru and Egypt. And we found some unique discoveries of his own there. So we've kind of combined our worlds of exploration. And it's becoming fascinating because basically if you look at
Luemas: where the megaliths and stuff are in the world, there's kind of a big hole on the earth when it comes to out here in the Pacific, the South Pacific as well, and Australia and New Zealand.
Luemas: I mean, no one really hears about that. And so that's what we're kind of do. We're trying to, um, excuse me. We're trying to, um, uncover were places that um people aren't looking for. We're adding new sites to the the world. and and it and And in turn, it exposes this cover up of our ancient history. And it all it all kind of you know works. It's fun.
Luemas: It's exciting to go to these spots because we're and people aren't looking and that's the thing. So um it just takes someone to have the sight, to see the sight in terms of just being able to go, is that a mountain or is that a pyramid? Well, let's let's go up and find out because most people don't even think twice. They might drive by or you know just never pay attention. And so I think more if more people start doing that where they live, they might start uncovering this ancient forgotten world.
Christian Yordanov: I think so because there's one dude, i he was a speaker at the Narcopulco the last few years, Mike Wilkerson, so he lives in Spain. I think he's from the States, but he lives in Spain and um he's going, i think he I'm not sure if he coined the term biogeology, but he basically looks at like petrified, like potentially the remnants of all big massive trees and and giants and faces. And he like at at his talk in an arch book, he actually had brought rocks that according to like art, like um landmarks on the heart. He was like, these could be petrified hearts because he had like a sort of a checklist of 20 or 30 points of what a heart, what are um landmarks and and structure it would have. And he, so like, I think, so he's doing amazing work in Spain. And then I think,
Christian Yordanov: the fact that you're doing it in Hawaii, it's a a very low population. So I suppose very few people of this sort of disposition that we have, you know, to question and and and explore. So the fact that you're doing this, I think it's actually amazing because anyone nowadays can go to to, like you said already, to Egypt and there's little that can be added because we we have so little access.
Christian Yordanov: we yeah You can go up the the giant the Great Pyramid, you can go around the area. But you're kind of delving more into unexplored, uncharted territory. So I think that's actually ah an addition to the body of work, which is amazing that what you're doing, brother.
Luemas: Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. If it's, I think it's more like, so you know how, like if you see a TV show and the first season's kind of like, they don't have all the,
Luemas: the theme hammered down exactly. That's kind of how it starts out. Like, cause I didn't, I already made some of the footage beforehand before I knew I was going explore here.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: So it's kind of a ah mix of the big places in the world and then what we're doing out here. But the theme got rolling along and then I realized, well, okay, let's just release this first season so we can get onto the second season and get into the real meat and potatoes.
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Luemas: But that's that's how it worked with me. And um it's sort it's sort of just kind of like really exactly what you said i can't add any more to egypt i can't add any more to peru everyone is all over that i mean what can i say you know um i'd rather go to places people haven't heard much about or have never heard of and that's that's what we're doing here is we're expanding the megalithic map and it's And it's fun.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Luemas: I mean, it's just fun because, look, I've been, as you probably know, I've been looking into the dark aspects of this world for many years. And I mean, yes, there's that, too. We must pay attention, definitely.
Luemas: But um let's have a little fun, too, and and let's look into the ancient past. But honestly, it's important to look at this because um there are missing pieces are chapters of our history and it affects our present position because we don't understand from lack coordinates of our past why we're here, what we're doing and it it opens up a world, I mean It, it um you know, if our history is not a ah linear progression from hunter-gatherer to advanced, then why don't, why, you know, there's there's something that we're missing here. and And why are we being held back? and does it And does it show some type of intervention between regular humans and something else? We don't know. And then it spurs bigger questions. And and we need to be asking these questions. questions that doesn't matter about science or religion we need to be asking me you know where do we come from what is our purpose is it is it is it really just to make money and pay to exist and of course not so i think i think the answers are in the past so it actually really is important as much as it is important to pay attention to the present too
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, I agree.
Luemas: yeah
Christian Yordanov: I think um just even looking at, there was another guy I had on the podcast quite a ah long time ago. um ah God, why am I blanking on the name, man? It's very late.
Christian Yordanov: ah Howdy Mikoski, yes, yes.
Luemas: Oh, I've heard of them, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: did yeah yeah yeah so he he did quite a bit of work around the the expositions, which you know were like eighteen late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds and like the it's what that looked like is that allegedly was kind of like just built with you know pla wood and just thrown together in a few months for the exposition and then they broke them down with what it looked like was it was like remnants of old beautiful architecture and cities that then they they demolished to wipe the memory and then the the version of history we're given is that, or those were just the the expositions where new technology was unveiled, and but there was some really weird stuff, even just from the few pictures that were available from the time, he see some really inconsistent things with the narrative so like similar like we were with the with the tour guide for the pyramids the sphinx and he took us around the area there's like a tomb i forget the exact name of it of the tomb but so he brought us down and uh there's a bunch of kind of i think asian women taking pictures and selfies there but so he actually unplugged the lights so it was dark and then he took his phone out turned on the
Christian Yordanov: the the the the the the torch, the flashlight, sorry, torch is the UK, the the torch, um the flashlight.
Luemas: That's right. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: So he he then showed us little specks of quartz crystal in the stones that made that structure. So like things like that just make you think Then there was another another person I saw, an ex had a video. He was kind of like off the beaten path. He saw like entire veins of quartz, maybe a couple of inches thick that were like ah there was a like a horizontal layer in whatever that structure was. So it's kind of like little things like that make you think, well, why was it there? Maybe maybe there was, again, like we talked about ley lines or or other energetic whatever um phenomena. But what if there was like some other...
Christian Yordanov: reason, let's say for the Great Pyramids, there was another researcher, God, why am I blanking on the names? he He has, his whole channel is about the hypothesis that there were chemical factories and each one was making, let's say, ammonia for fertilizer and then other chemicals that then were used in industry. So I think the more we question and kind of come up with theories and and sort of try to knock them down and and and and you know see what what stands what holds water, what holds up, the more we can actually uncover really what what's the what what's going on.
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Because like clearly there were some advanced civilizations before us. So we need to understand why are they hiding that from us other than the power aspect.
Luemas: Yeah, why are they hiding and and that's ah that's a good question that I wish we had the the full answers, but i I think it takes our power away. um It shows us that it it, because obviously they just want us to focus on going to work, making money, paying taxes, being good slaves.
Luemas: And that that's what they want us to focus on.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Luemas: So when we focus on this stuff, it opens up a bigger world. And you can't really deny it. I mean, I went through in some of the a couple of examples of how impossible it is to build these things.
Luemas: And our cranes today can barely lift a lot of this stuff. And to and, you know, the granite inside the great inside the pyramid cores are from Aswan, which is 600 miles south of the Great Pyramids and how they transported that and why and then put it and ah and how they erected it. And I mean, this stuff weighs incredible amounts more than the blocks on the outside of the pyramid. It's just like. So it's it's it's telling us that there was, yes, advanced. and
Luemas: And ask you have to ask, too, why? and would would we really be, where would we be if we knew all this information in the past? And I think we got to kind of think, like, where would we be if we understood that? Would this paradigm that we're in still be the same? I don't know. It'd be interesting to find out, though.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, man. um So we all like to, i um I also think about some of these things and i speculate and like where we where would we be if we weren't held back and all these chemicals and and and poisons weren't pumped into the environment and so on and the fear and, and you know, whatever else, the countless things.
Christian Yordanov: But um we always, at least I sometimes fantasize and speculate what the purpose of some of these things or how they were built. And I have some various sort of like wild theories. And well so I would invite you to know theory is too crazy. What what are they or some of some of your theories and speculations on how they built and the purpose of some of these things? Any ideas?
Luemas: Yeah, I mean, I i fully don't know. But Egypt, if you go just let's just focus on Egypt for a minute. They talk about Zeptepe, which is the time, the golden age, the time before when the gods were here.
Luemas: I think that says something, that there was some kind of beings here other than humans that were... And then even if you look into our makeup as humans, I'm doing a series of shows with a friend called What Are Humans? I mean, our second chromosome is weird. It doesn't match anything in nature. i believe there was something that interfered with are are our us as human homo sapiens sapiens. I don't know what, but the gods with an s were here on this planet. um Zeptepe, and they had very long lifespans. you can you can You can connect that with the Bible. In Genesis, you can connect that with the Sumerian Kings list. which And the funny thing is, is they the mainstream archaeologists go, they accept everything else except these long lifespans. Oh no, that they were just they were just lying. you know Basically is what they're saying. It's like, well, wait a minute. Why would they say that? you know Because even like the the Pharaoh's list, you know
Luemas: 900 years old? Like, that's insane. oh Now you get into the Sumerian kings list and it's almost too unbelievable, like 20,000 years and stuff. But what are we talking about here? So I kind of think that there's at least, if it wasn't beings, there was a knowledge.
Luemas: um There's theories out there that these there was geopolymer. They could soften these stones and then put them in place. That's possibility, but I don't know if there's enough evidence evidence i think we need to use the trivium in all things we gather all the possibilities including the mainstream narrative put it all together see what fits and throw out what doesn't until we can come up with uh something and it's hard because we weren't there and there's the cover-up where we can explore these sites like you were saying like we can't go to egypt and explore anymore because they won't let us and
Luemas: you know, they got people in Peru with whistles. If you get too close the stones, they they blow the whistle on you. I was in the side of Sacsayhuaman with the huge stones and you couldn't fit anything between them. So I decided to take out my driver's license and I tried to put it in between the stone.
Luemas: They didn't see me, but somebody else was doing that not too far away and they blew the whistle. So it's like, we can't really explore these sites properly anyway. Um, But I think we need to gather all the possibilities.
Christian Yordanov: That's crazy.
Luemas: I like to come to the realization and say to everyone, I don't know. I wish I had the answer, but it's better just to be honest and say we don't know because the more you investigate, like, ah yeah, I don't know.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: I wish I had the answer, but something happened.
Christian Yordanov: So... so So I'm not saying it was aliens, but it's aliens, right?
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: I kid, I kid. um Bro, what was funny, so we this tour guide we had in in Egypt, so very, very cool dude, young, um very smart.
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: And because, again, me and my wife were like... just constantly questioning everything. And my wife was like super interested in everything. And she was constantly asking him questions. And we were like, nah, that doesn't sound right. and So at at one point I just kind of stood to him man to man. i was like, it's how they build it, dude.
Christian Yordanov: So he started giving me these bullshit theories. I'm dude, do you believe that? And then i eventually ground him down. And in the end he said, it's a mystery. We have no idea.
Christian Yordanov: You know, they're coming up with all these bullshit theories and how did the Sphinx lose his nose.
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: It's all this like fairy tale stuff.
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: But in the end, i'm I'm happy that he had sort of this, it's like, it's a mystery and it is a mystery. And it's one, what I think what draws a lot of people there. But another thing he told me is that apparently now the pyramids, that sort of whole area there, the complex, the Giza complex, apparently that has a private owner.
Christian Yordanov: I don't know if you heard that.
Luemas: No.
Christian Yordanov: Some big, one of the richest guys in, um and I don't exactly remember how much he leased it for, but I think he said for a billion maybe maybe dollars, most likely dollars, that some dude now has a lease on that whole complex, I think he said for 25 years. So that was another thing that was like well that's I guess the the Egyptian government needs money, you know you know corruption, never enough money, blah blah, but it just kind of makes me wonder why would they do that are they looking to maybe explore look underground what's underground and and maybe take advantage of that i wonder but just something interesting i learned lot in january
Luemas: I didn't know that, but you know, you do have those new scans out about the, what's underneath the pyramids and that's pretty interesting.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Luemas: Very interesting. In fact, so, and there's supposed to be things underneath the Sphinx as well. And, and, um, but yeah, with this plastic passing along private to a private owner, that's not good usually.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Hmm.
Luemas: However, governments aren't good either. So, I mean, take your pick. But I know from like people like Brian Forrester that he's saying it's a lot better nowadays than it was when Zahi Hawass was the ah master of antiquities over there because now they're allowing people to...
Luemas: if you pay enough money, go to this in the Sphinx enclosure. You can also go in the the temple of Osiris and stuff you couldn't do years back. So they're they are opening up more things.
Luemas: If you have a large group like he does, he brings like Brian Forrester is from Peru, but he brings big groups all over the world and they you know enough money three thousand dollars to go in the sphinx enclosure between 50 people that's not so bad so um you know things like that are available to us now at least that they weren't back in the day apparently so i mean i visited peru i mean in egypt in 2022 so it wasn't a help not that long ago so i but um you know i got to see the serapium which is really interesting and went inside the step pyramid and i guess years ago you couldn't do that so that's cool
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: yeah What did you make of the the Cairo? Just curious.
Luemas: hu it's one big crazy city. I didn't realize it was 26 million people. I just never really thought about it being that big.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, insane.
Luemas: It's one of the biggest cities in the world and it's insane. Um, you know, it kind of shows me though, like that it's a majority Muslim population in Egypt.
Luemas: And, um, It shows me that data there's no connection to this ancient culture there because the Muslim religion is taken over.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: So they they really don't care because they're into Islam. ah So it kind of shows me that most people that live there probably don't know anything about ancient Egypt or as they called it, Kemet.
Luemas: It's...
Luemas: there It's it's it's ah vibrant, but it's, you know, very, very poverty stricken. And like I expected that, though, um the food was good as long as you don't get food poisoning.
Luemas: I didn't. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Oh, it was so polluted.
Luemas: that
Christian Yordanov: Dude, I couldn't believe it.
Luemas: So polluted. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: man.
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: We went to... There was this Coptic church.
Luemas: Mm hmm.
Christian Yordanov: And so we took an Uber. And, man, I have this, like, two-minute video just this from my side of the car. it's They have these trash cities there where they, um you know, the yeah so the I think something like 40% or 60% of the the trash doesn't get collected.
Luemas: Oh, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: So they they basically... It gets... funneled to those cities and the people there basically because they're you know christians they can feed it to the pigs because you know obviously the the muslims don't don't ah eat um pork so they feed the organic waste to the pigs and then with the the plastics and all the other stuff they actually like they recycle some stuff and they make crafts and stuff but just it was just trash um piled up like it was unbelievable my wife was horrified and my daughter in the middle she was like
Luemas: All right. Uh-huh.
Luemas: ah
Christian Yordanov: traveling is fun no clue so i took the video just to show her one day like what like how some people live and if she ever complains that oh we don't have this or that but it just pretty pretty insane dude yeah definitely definitely i think they don't it doesn't seem like they have much of a connection to the pyramids like it's it's not their thing they just it's there now in their land but it's not their cultural thing
Luemas: Yeah.
Luemas: No.
Luemas: no
Luemas: Yes, agreed. i saw a whole river, which didn't have any water in it, full of plastic bottles. ah you And I think, look, I haven't done a lot of traveling in Africa, but from friends that have, that's just a taste of what most of the continent is like.
Christian Yordanov: Amen.
Luemas: People just kind of, you know, it's just...
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: It's unfortunate. The governments in the African countries are some of the worst. They treated their people like terribly and and just for generations. And the poverty is just very intense.
Luemas: And so, yeah, that's unfortunate. I think that's kind of a taste of what the whole continent or a lot of it would be like with the litter, the trash and But yeah, but being going there, I i did the same thing.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Luemas: i I thought, yeah, very polluted and very disconnected from whatever history that was there. And I would have to say that's probably because of the Muslim faith, because that's what their focus is now.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: who
Luemas: They don't, you know, they couldn't care less. And that's another thing that I've seen a theme across the world, including here in Hawaii. These ancient sites here, well, um they were, ah um you know when when religion came into here they the hawaiians changed their whole uh faith in their whole system of ways so um more so when the westerners arrived even so the fact that they forgot about these sites and they probably weren't even their their sites anyway so they didn't care about them so it's just the generation of things not people not caring about stuff you know so yeah
Christian Yordanov: yeah yeah and ah tell us a little bit about about Australia where those pyramids you were referring to what part
Luemas: Well, Queensland. ah
Christian Yordanov: okay
Luemas: And there's there's several sites. i didn't This didn't make the first documentary, but there's hawai Australia has a Stonehenge. It's on private land, and hopefully we'll get to do that coming up. But the Gympie Pyramid is this place that the government has totally covered up. They built a highway right through it.
Luemas: So all we can go is see what was there and what stones were there we think were used and put in front of a church as a wall. And you can see the same masonry that you find in Egypt and Peru on this wall.
Luemas: excuse me So we visit that wall and yeah, there's something that happened in that town that they covered it up. And gold is a big theme you'll find across the world that has to do with these ancient cultures.
Luemas: And that was a gold rich town. And another place we went to in Australia is the Gosford glyphs and their hieroglyphs in this canyon that are carved from Egypt and that the government and everybody says, oh, no, that was just ah some soldier that came back after World War One or something and didn't, him you know, the the excuse is pretty stupid.
Christian Yordanov: Whoa.
Luemas: And these have been studied by Egyptologists and they say it's a dialect from a certain time period of hieroglyphs. So it's like, how would someone be that specific to make those up?
Luemas: So they visited here, obviously. um so Yeah, there's Australia's a lot of uncovered. There's a lot of stuff that's covered up there. And I'm glad that I'm being able to team up with Triffin who's there.
Christian Yordanov: oh man
Luemas: and He has his podcast, Unlocking the Code. He's part of the team and and we're we're just doing lots of research and it's it's filling in.
Christian Yordanov: Trifan that sounds like a Bulgarian name is he Eastern European?
Luemas: Yeah, Triffin. ah It is, he could tell you, I think it's Greek. Well, in heritage, but he's he's an Aussie.
Christian Yordanov: oh okay okay sweet that's very cool man maybe I can have him on the show at some point
Luemas: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you should. Yeah. Triffin's great. Him and I have done a lot of work together, podcasts.
Christian Yordanov: That's awesome.
Luemas: We just hit it off right. And in fact, I would say just teaming up with him back right when I got back from Egypt or around that time, it just spurred more of our talks about this kind of stuff because he's into it just as much as I am.
Luemas: And then we decided, well, hey, let's look in our own lands. And so we did. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: very cool very cool and what's interesting is when i put in gimpy pyramid and i click to wikipedia no no actual picture of the the pyramid ah interesting just a bunch of you know what some people claim some theories but it's kind of interesting that the they wouldn't put a picture there because it it does seem like there is a few on tuk-tuk-go so again But the other thing, I don't know if you've seen this um about Australia, there was some, I'm forgetting the details, but there was some area that that was like kind of in the sticks as it were, that was cordoned off with with with with fencing.
Luemas: Yeah. And he.
Luemas: Yep.
Luemas: no
Christian Yordanov: And people were like, why? What are they like trying to prevent from getting out or letting in? It doesn't make a lot of sense because it's kind of in the wilderness type thing.
Luemas: m
Christian Yordanov: Have you heard about that?
Luemas: Well, it sounds like the Gympie Pyramid because they have a fence around it and we're not allowed to go in.
Christian Yordanov: Oh, okay.
Luemas: Triffin and his team before I was there, he might have been the last field trip there to to actually be on it and investigate parts of it. And then they built the highway right through it, put a fence around what's left of it.
Luemas: It's just, yeah, the cover-up's intense.
Christian Yordanov: Dude, that is like...
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: that It's unbelievable. because Have you heard about Tara in Ireland?
Luemas: No.
Christian Yordanov: The Tara Hill? Have you heard of Newgrange? I think it's called Newgrange.
Luemas: Yes. Yeah, a new range.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, so...
Luemas: Uh-huh.
Christian Yordanov: know We're going to to a wedding nearby there this year, so I told my wife. Because I i lived in Ireland 14 years, but was such a, you know, just party boy drinking and and doing stupid things that I...
Christian Yordanov: that So much... stuff as well hidden to uncover in Ireland. But so anyway, I told my wife I want to go there. I want to see the Hill of Tara. So the Hill of Tara is this sort of ancient ceremonial, quote-unquote burial site in the county Meath, which is a little bit, you know, north of Dublin.
Luemas: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Christian Yordanov: And they were there was this... Back in even the mid-2000s, I remember, there was activists trying to sort of petition because they wanted to build basically a freeway kind of close or around, basically desecrate the the freaking this ancient site. And they wanted to make make a freaking...
Christian Yordanov: just do a road as if you can't do it elsewhere you know so it's kind of crazy that not only are they hiding these things but it seems like they've been actively working to destroy so many of these things beyond just covering them up actually destroying them seems to be the agenda it's kind of kind of crazy
Luemas: It is true. And even even the first city on earth, Erdo, which is in southern Iraq, You would think there'd be an ongoing investigation there ah continuing to uncover.
Luemas: It's just forgotten about. It's a mound in the desert that looters go to and they like sell pottery online on eBay and stuff. And it's like, wow, that's what we treat the first city on earth like.
Luemas: I mean, this probably major stuff there and they don't want us to see it.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: And just like in the Iraq war in 2003, they... two thousand and three they The soldiers, the U.S. s troops went there and raided museums and as as well as ISIS destroyed a lot of sites. So it's like the disregard for this. It's is's purposeful, it seems like, that they want to throw away this ancient history so we don't have those important coordinates to understand our real past.
Luemas: because I think we're a species that is immature, the human society, and we don't have connection to natural law and ah lots of important fundamentals to be what it is to be human.
Luemas: And I think that um if we had these coordinates, we might be way further along in our natural evolution as ah as a species on this planet. And I don't think they want that.
Luemas: So they love us being divided and fighting and at dumb.
Christian Yordanov: and dumb and immature yeah that's it man so it's it's really up to ourselves individually and that's the problem is when you're trying to figure it all out on your own there's so many roadblocks and if you had this framework from when you were yay yay big you know a kiddo like if you like because i see i see uh my daughter de developing you know
Luemas: Yep.
Christian Yordanov: Excuse me. So I can see like if you enrich a child's environment, how much further they can how much faster they can develop. And they've done anything but enrich our environment. in fact It's enriched with bullshit.
Christian Yordanov: So like just false history from the get-go. So we were taught lines in many aspects, like from from whatever to whatever, history to to health to whatever. And then with that, we basically become 20, 30-year-old children with with really very stunted development.
Christian Yordanov: I don't want to use the R word, but that's really what they're they're making us. They're making us developmentally challenged, let's say.
Luemas: Yeah.
Luemas: Yeah, yeah, immature in emotion too. and And just focus is stupid.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: And yeah, I'll totally agree with you 100%. um i thought about something I wanted to add in is I came into a mentality when exploring these sites in Hawaii with the the the thought of, okay, so there's a lot of times we got kicked off private property.
Luemas: And I'm thinking like, okay, i I totally have respect for people's property. But if they're if it's large pieces of land that are not being used, and what are they doing with it? just like i don't really I feel like we kind of have to do some things that are semi-illegal in order to get the to the bottom of these mysteries. And so with respect, we went on some private roads and private land. and we went until we got stopped and sometimes that's what we got to do and if we get stopped but i got stopped and we're like hey we're just coming through here and blah blah blah and the person was okay with it fine that's good so sometimes you just have to kind of break the rules a bit because they otherwise we'll never get to the bottom of some of these mysteries if we don't probably break the rules a bit and you know these are just rules in place to keep us from knowing our you know
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: As they say, it's easier to get forgiveness than permission. So just just do it.
Luemas: Yeah, right? Yeah. That's a, yeah, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: So that's a mentality that I kind of came out with with this, is to just go until they tell you to stop.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, yeah. I'm curious, um when did you go? i think you maybe mentioned it. When did you go to Bosnia?
Luemas: This was 2024. Oh, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Would you recommend? out Because it's kind of near me. I'd love to like, you would you recommend a trip like that?
Luemas: oh yeah
Christian Yordanov: Is it fairly easy?
Luemas: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very easy. Um, I drove in from Croatia, um, just next door, easy drive, uh, roads were good.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah. Ah, okay. Okay.
Luemas: i would go in the spring or, I went in late spring. Let's see what time of year did I go? I went in, um, it was late April. I went, but, um,
Luemas: little cold, but not too bad. Yeah, nice. You know, it's a different culture in Bosnia because they saw war not too long ago. So you can kind of still feel that feeling like they've seen bloodshed kind of feeling. It's a little bit.
Luemas: But people are from nice.
Christian Yordanov: i've I've worked with Bosnians, I know a little bit, like, the very... It's weird. so but Also, i've worked um i've I've had some friends and from the kind of the Serbia,
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: um ah that kind of region, and, you know, they had the war there, so you could definitely see some trauma. You could feel almost palpable the trauma and that sort of some repressed feelings of seeing horrible things, you know, it's pretty...
Christian Yordanov: pretty terrible to have to go through that as a human
Luemas: Yeah. Oh, yeah. You can see it in the gaze of the people. They just kind of give you that stare.
Christian Yordanov: yes yes yes yeah
Luemas: And I'm like, huh, they've just seen something. I just don't know because they're nice when you talk to them. But if you were to just only judge Bosnia by how people look at you, you might think everybody's not nice.
Christian Yordanov: doesn't like you yeah yeah that was my initial i remember i was working with one dude he was very i was like at first i like oh he's just introverted i'm more extroverted he thinks i'm a loud mouth dumbass so just give him space but over time when i got to know him
Luemas: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Christian Yordanov: he was he was a very nice guy, we're joking around, but I could still see there was something there, and there's like pain hidden underneath the the smiles and stuff.
Luemas: Mm-hmm.
Christian Yordanov: pretty crazy, brother. Let me ask you before we wrap today, well, just you kind of mentioned a little bit, so what will be the direction for season two? What's kind of the the narratives you want to develop over the next few episodes?
Luemas: Well, we're we're going and we're really we've honed in on sites and we're really going for everything we can get, including carbon dating and including finding stuff that is buried and that we're digging up.
Luemas: and um we are not only in hawaii um this this documentary is going to be uh also i ended up even going to italy for one section of the montavecchia pyramids they're in there they're hardly known of and um i've realized that that's the calling is to find new places that or places people haven't seen much of and and um of course, there's more revelations.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Luemas: So basically we're taking the explorations to the next level. It's like we just got started in season one and season two, we're really going into these explorations. But I've also got a lot of people that I have interviewed that are going to be in it as well as the first one.
Luemas: I should give you a rundown of people who are in the first one. So you might know some of these names. seasons one Um, one, I got my friend Seb Bland, Zach Royer, which most people don't know them.
Luemas: They're here in Hawaii. And then Triff and I talked about, but also Mike Collins, who does Wandering Wolf. It's a YouTube channel. Nicky Anna Jones, Ole Demigard, William Ramsey, Sean McCann, host Wake the Dead, Paul Wallace,
Luemas: Bob Tuscan and Heather Arnold. So those, those people are in the first one and I have quite a few, um, other people in the second one and, um, a few that are new to the new to it.
Christian Yordanov: Wow.
Luemas: So, uh, it's going to be great.
Christian Yordanov: Amazing.
Luemas: I'm excited about it because it's, um, I'm getting better at filmmaking. The first one I'm like, look, I'm a generation Xer and i I have a hard time with some of this technology. I had to, you know, break in through the first one.
Luemas: Now in the second one, I know more what I'm doing because, um,
Christian Yordanov: Mm-hmm.
Luemas: I'm from the analog generation. Probably you are too, you know? Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: ah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Luemas: Yeah. Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: it's it's It's an art, man. It's an art, a science, a skill. it's i really I really respect, because I know quite a few guys doing documentaries and stuff, and I love what you do, because for me, just editing a video to remove some you know slip-ups and ums and ahs, for me, is that's such an ordeal.
Luemas: yeah
Christian Yordanov: The fact that you do all of this and cinematography and everything, and all of it, the transitioning, the the narrative, the music, that is... such a beautiful skill to have i wish maybe maybe in another lifetime i you know ah if i start early i will i will learn that because i would love to be able to actually create things like that myself but thank you thank you brother for what you do man it's amazing
Luemas: Thank you. And if anyone wants to watch it, the best way to watch it is sacred site.info. Then the links on there.
Christian Yordanov: yeah
Luemas: Um, I, I, I have it on several platforms, but I think the best link will take you to it's a YouTube channel that is hosted on. Um, I couldn't get it in on any big streaming ones for this round, but I think the second round will probably make it on more streaming.
Luemas: It isn't on a few obscure streaming sites, but, um, It's a difficult world to navigate out there with there's too much stuff in the world now to watch. And so it's hard.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah.
Luemas: But I my website for my show, Chan It Down, which I've been doing for 13 years is is ChanItDownRadio.com. And I have a second podcast now called Sacred Sight Podcast.
Luemas: And it's just me explaining these journeys and you get to come along for storytelling. So those, those are the nuts all in those two websites.
Christian Yordanov: Cool.
Luemas: So you find it all. Yeah. I appreciate you for having me on.
Christian Yordanov: Awesome. imgra i'm gonna Yeah, Yeah, thank you so much for coming on. ah i'm gonna I didn't know about the like Sacred Side podcast, but going to include all the links you mentioned. i already have them here already. I'll add that one in. We'll have them underneath the show. Tell tell us where else can... are you I think you were on Instagram. Where else can folks connect with you, man?
Luemas: ah Yeah, Chan It Down on Instagram. um I'm on Telegram, barely, but I'm on there.
Christian Yordanov: Hmm.
Luemas: I'm on X, but I forgot I was. And I'm on Rumble. I have a lot of stuff on All my videos are on Rumble. ah
Christian Yordanov: Okay.
Luemas: And so when I released Sacred Sight season one, it originally was one thing. it was a I had two options, the theatrical or the director's cut. Well, i after a while, I go, wait a minute.
Luemas: It should be two things. So I have as a season, so it's season one and it's two chapters nowadays. But if you went deep enough in my Rumble channel, and you can still find the theatrical version, but why not just watch the full thing on the link, sacredsight.info.
Christian Yordanov: I think so.
Luemas: So, Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Yeah, yeah. it's It's definitely beautiful.
Luemas: Yeah.
Christian Yordanov: Like I said, I already kind of watched a little bit here and there what I could this week.
Luemas: Thank you.
Christian Yordanov: Definitely on my list very soon. And looking forward to to season two, brother. Again, thank you for what you do and thank you for coming on the show and sharing your work.
Luemas: Yeah.
Luemas: Hey, thank you, Christian. You did a great work as well. Thank you for for having me on.
Christian Yordanov: Thank you, brother.
Luemas: All right.
