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My Second Bufo (5-MeO-DMT) Journey
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Christian's Bufo Ceremony Experience
00:00:01
Christian Yordanov
hey it's Christian I wanted to talk about my last bufo ceremony that I did on the 20th of February in Mexico with Bearheart the facilitator shaman there and my client Johnny just because I feel like I'm not obviously recommending you to do anything, but I feel like if more of us talk about our experience, it might set some people's, I suppose, anxiety about it to rest. And make perhaps more people may consider this medicine. And it is a medicine any way you look at
What is Bufo?
00:00:48
Christian Yordanov
it. It is absolutely a healing sort of...
00:00:52
Christian Yordanov
ceremony, and but there's a lot of sort of fear and stigma around it because you know they say that, so just in case you don't know what Bufo is, so Bufo refers to the the toad that they get the secretions from, right so the way Bearheart who is the the medicine man at the Anarchipulco conference where we we we the the ceremonies are on offer, so the way he kind of describes it it's basically it's also known as the sonoran desert toad and what's interesting about the toad this is where the toad leaking comes from you know from like uh popular propaganda you know uh but what's interesting about these toads is that they actually ah the way he kind of introduces you when you're there to it is that the toad lives
00:01:47
Christian Yordanov
underground, deep deep underground 10 months out of the year and then it only comes out for a couple of months in the rainy season where the way he says it is like it comes out you know eat, drink, make love and you know just gonna live life and then it goes back in for 10 months into sort of the sort of deep dissolving state where it's basically is in it in a sense kind of like in a suspended hibernation state of probably because there's in this deep um silent darkness there's very little stimuli to the senses which means you know you are really ah suppose any organism in such a an environment for such a long time will really just
00:02:33
Christian Yordanov
I suppose turn inwards a lot and said so what they do when the when the toads come out they don't harm them when they collect the medicine the 5-MeO-DMT really is the kind of the the primary um active ingredient but there's others in there but um ah so what they do is they basically catch the toads and they kind of tickle them under the the throat ah they tickle their throats and they secrete this venom as it's called or secretion And they kind of dried in the sun on parchment paper or glass and this sort of golden crystalline sort of material ah remains. And that's kind of smoked, basically. And then you enter this...
The Profound Journey of Bufo
00:03:16
Christian Yordanov
the the journey which doesn't last long it could be like 10 20 30 minutes and then you know a lot of it seems like ah for a lot of people you just go almost completely back to normal like if people were talking to you they wouldn't know you just this super profound uh and um but i think there's a lot of fear around it because it it's called the god molecule 5-me-o-dmt dmt and um i suppose it they also say it's like five times stronger than dmt you know the the more popular one so people are like well this is the most
00:03:55
Christian Yordanov
uh powerful psychedelic that we have so i think that a lot of people especially that are more beginners or they've never done it that it would be like extremely sort of anxious and scared to try it and which is i think not a bad thing to be nervous and to kind of not take it for granted and flippantly and nonchalantly because you have to really respect the medicine because otherwise that's how people have bad experiences when they don't respect the process, right? But on the other hand, from what I see as the, know, obviously bare hearted, he's done like literally thousands of these ceremonies and with other medicines as well.
Role of a Shaman in a Bufo Ceremony
00:04:37
Christian Yordanov
On top of that, so he's very, he's very
00:04:44
Christian Yordanov
Like when you're in his presence, like you can sort of feel the peace, you can feel the safety that this container that that the facilitator creates. So like you if you're doing it with a with an experienced facilitator, they know if you're like a beginner to not sort of, give you too much and they know how to help you go through the the harder parts of of the journey if they come not and that here's the thing like so just kind of bit of background so I actually did the the Bufo ceremony last year with my friend Charlie Robinson he he what gifted me the he's like do you want to do this with me it's it's on me so like oh damn I can't I can't refuse you know it's such an honor uh and then But i was I was kind of, to be honest, I was kind of shitting bricks even before I went to Mexico. And then all week long, because it was on the last day of the conference last year that we did it with him at the end of, think we were the last ceremony of the week.
00:05:43
Christian Yordanov
I was like, man, I was so nervous. And I was like, geez, I hope I don't chicken out.
First Bufo Experience with Charlie Robinson
00:05:48
Christian Yordanov
And then when we sat down with Bearheart, the shaman, he was kind of explaining all this stuff and about safety and how the medicine kind of,
00:05:58
Christian Yordanov
knows what to give you it will never give you more than you can handle and it only comes when you're ready and um um as he was as he was saying that because charlie robinson was gonna go first I already started crying.
00:06:15
Christian Yordanov
It was crazy. I just couldn't stop crying from nerves, from kind of, I don't know, I don't even fear your nerves. And Charlie went, he did, you know, he did um the two hits and I kept, he was like super serene and really just blissful and and and relaxed. So like,
00:06:35
Christian Yordanov
I didn't know what to expect. i was still kind like tears were rolling down my eyes and bare heart came to me. Are you ready? I'm like, ah ah I guess I'm ready. So it's like he gave me the first, this was last year again, the the first sort of handshake sort of dose. And I felt almost but basically nothing.
00:06:54
Christian Yordanov
um So I was like, OK, let's go again. He's like, do you want to go again? i was like, OK, let's go again. And the second one, it hit me like an absolute freight train.
00:07:05
Christian Yordanov
it was and I was struggling. And this is this is the the thing about it is that if you the more the ego struggles, the more unpleasant the experience will be. But out of fear...
00:07:17
Christian Yordanov
I kept struggling and it was like a thing and i was like ah at one point I was like trying to crawl away as if you can like run away from the medicine. you know And he he would play these instruments and and and and flute and and and he would sing, which kind of really helps to just kind of ease the journey. So eventually i let go and then it was like some kind of bliss period of, ah you know I don't know how long it was, was it seconds, minutes?
00:07:46
Christian Yordanov
um But that all I remember then is as i I was kind of coming back from that sort of the the light, that kind of, the that light, the blissful, clear a light, ah ah suppose, of God or the sun. As he says, you get a kiss from the sun. As I was coming back, the first thing was like, oh, why did I fight it? Why did I fight it?
00:08:09
Christian Yordanov
Why did I fight it? And then i was like, oh man, that was that was amazing. And then I cried a bunch more. And then I was crying. Then at one point i was like crying, it but then it became like tears of joy. And then I've been listening to a lot of podcasts and and a couple of books on The whole sort of 5-MeO DMT you know integration of the of the journey, the
Emotional Release Through Bufo
00:08:35
Christian Yordanov
experience. And so I was listening to a facilitator a few days ago who said that with some people, ah that a lot of that crying that that happens
00:08:46
Christian Yordanov
is just really sort of the the the releasing the pain because what once you feel what the medicine gives you like it's like basically a taste of kind of the oneness of being being like you know that sort of consciousness god that unconditional love that animates this entire world universe that we can sense and beyond that what we can't sense once you feel that unconditional love some some people that start crying after that according to that facilitator was listening to um it's because
00:09:33
Christian Yordanov
they were like well why all the struggle and all the sort of like being so hard on myself or my loved ones all these decades and just like worrying all this worry about everything and like big things and small things and all of it is like why did i worry about all of these things when i was home already like i am inside God, you are inside God, we are all inside you know creator, God, the spirit, you know the great spirit, the universe, that power that gives it all, the the animates that whole existence
00:10:11
Christian Yordanov
It's all God and you are in it. You are eternal. You are an eternal part of God. And, you know, even though human form comes and goes and dies and, and of course, there's a lot of... so ah feelings associated whilst in this sort of so more solidified form per se of being a human and and and you know lot suffering, pain, fear and then of course the the suffering pain of of loss of your loved ones even though we all experience that through this very short human life.
Reflections on Eternity and Existence
00:10:50
Christian Yordanov
um
00:10:51
Christian Yordanov
But we don't actually die. We are safe. We are, again, a part of God. And can you imagine like if God created everything? God is eternal and all-knowing and all that stuff. and you You don't have to call it God. you know Some people don't like that term. It's just too much.
00:11:10
Christian Yordanov
ah religious sort of clouding there but you call it spirit or or whatever you want to call it the source like can you imagine you're part of source and and it's eternal and and and omnipresent and all that stuff well it can't die not no part of it can die so you just you're basically just you transmute to something else and you merge it's like so a very sort of simplistic analogy is that of you know ah the ocean let's say the ocean is everything but there's a lot of waves coming and going constantly everywhere small ones big ones foamy ones well the wave is part of the ocean um so it it might like there's a big wave seconds minutes whatever
00:11:55
Christian Yordanov
and then it merges back to the ocean and then those particles from that water, they will create another wave. And it's just this kind of infinite, eternal dance and and theater and and and sort of beautiful performance that's ever growing and evolving as God pleases, right? So I think a lot of people, according to that facilitator, they they so they might feel the bliss first of of the light inside them, which is absolutely like indescribable. And then shortly after they start crying um because of like, oh my God, like what why was i worried about everything? Like I'm fine. Like God has my back type thing, you know? So that was very interesting. And the the reason that's kind of interesting to me is because that's what happened. I believe now in hindsight, perhaps that's what happened on my second journey, which I did a couple of weeks ago.
Second Bufo Ceremony at Anarchapulco
00:12:49
Christian Yordanov
So it was... basically one about a week ah ah a bit over a week and a half ago right so as I record this and I'm still feeling like you know the afterglow after effects of it but um so what happened with this this was first of all I arrived at an Acapulco all the way back on the 14th Saturday and then the Sunday there was the opening party and I met i met um um A couple of my clients, we had quite a few clients there, but a couple of them. So one of them, Johnny, we had actually decided.
00:13:25
Christian Yordanov
i was like, hey, man, check this out. They're doing the Bufo ceremony. Are you interested? He's like, yeah, I'm interested. Are you interested? i'm like yeah, I'm interested. So like I was like, was kind of playing chicken. if he okay If he wants to do it, we'll do it together. Otherwise, I'll think about it.
00:13:39
Christian Yordanov
but he was game so me and johnny got i i got i talked to the guys i made sure i got the the last session of the week the last ceremony because i had a three-hour workshop on the friday before it like an hour before it so i just wanted to make sure that i could like pass through the the conference with my existing sort of ego and constructs about the world just in case it just in case i do the ceremony at the beginning of the week and then the rest of the week i just want to hug everybody and tell them how awesome uh god is and and and and how lucky we are to be alive and how blessed and loved we are and all the infinite love that i i just i i may have not have been as effective at you know getting my points across ah but you know in my in my
00:14:25
Christian Yordanov
workshop in my in my um presentation. I was interviewed by ah Josh Sigurdsson of World Alternative Media. So in hindsight, though, I probably, in hindsight, I probably would have done it at the start and at the end because after doing the ceremony, 20, 30 minutes, an hour later, whatever,
00:14:43
Christian Yordanov
I was like seemingly back to normal. And I was almost perturbed how back to normal I was because there was a lot of people and there was the the closing night party. you know, we were dancing and kind of talking and saying goodbye to people and and getting contacts with people. So I was like, man, I'm like freaking completely back to normal. Like last year I had all this afterglow for like two weeks after. and I was like, damn, I hope I...
Preparing for a Bufo Ceremony
00:15:08
Christian Yordanov
I hope i i you know it comes back and it did come back over the next, basically over the last 10 days, I've had like waves of this sort of almost like a mild euphoria. You know, it's it's absolutely amazing. At times it's a little bit overwhelming. Um, but you know, bare heart gave us kind of strategies to kind of contain it. If it, if it becomes a little bit too overwhelming, um, and it, it usually comes when you're kind of alone and you're not distracted with, you know, I don't know, YouTube podcasts when you kind of attention is a little bit more internalized that it's absolutely like, wow.
00:15:47
Christian Yordanov
So thankful for, for that, you know, but so what happened was then I, so me and Johnny had, had planned, uh, to do it on the Friday and then on Sunday I saw my other client Victor that I knew he was coming and he told me he's doing the bufo on Monday so I'm like oh wow that's amazing you're going straight in that's amazing like he's like hell yeah just get getting get getting in there so I was like man like if you don't mind I'd love to be a part of your ceremony you know it would be a great honor for me And he was like, of course, yeah. So he was up for it. But then they moved him from Monday to Tuesday.
00:16:23
Christian Yordanov
So then it did happen on Tuesday. and went there, I sat with him, we went together. And again, as bare heart was kind of explaining to Victor what was going to happen and and and and um all that good stuff, i again, I started crying.
00:16:38
Christian Yordanov
And then, and then bare heart before Victor did, know, um, took the medicine, bare heart said, you know, Christian, you have anything to say, any words to share? And I'm like, you know, wiping the tears off of my, my face. I'm here we go.
00:16:56
Christian Yordanov
Going for another round of crying. But, um, I'll tell you, it, it was such a, such a, it really eased my my nerves when Victor, when he kind of took the medicine, um he just lay back with a slight smile on his face and you could just feel sort of the bliss and the serenity kind of emanating from the guy, it was absolutely epic and ah at that point I think
00:17:26
Christian Yordanov
most of my crying kind of stopped i think like there's a few more tears came out over the ah the next you know while but i just kind of was like wow okay like you can have a very nice relaxing session without a lot of drama, you know.
00:17:44
Christian Yordanov
ah So that's kind of really helped me kind of get a bit more mentally prepared for our session a few days later. And then we also, I told Victor, man, if you want to be part of our ceremony with Johnny, you know, you're you're more than welcome to. And he's like, yeah, sure. If Johnny's up for it, I'll come and join. And of course, Johnny was up for it. So we on Friday, we did my um my three hour workshop on fasting, why it's bad for you, all that stuff, low carb diets, why they're killing you.
00:18:12
Christian Yordanov
um and why carbs aren't bad. So that was three hours of me, like blasting, fire hosing people with information. And they were the guys were there at the workshop. And then we went straight, basically straight after we went for the for the ceremony. So i was I was like a little bit, I didn't really prepare well. I didn't like have time to just, you know, just sit quietly alone and just kind of prepare.
Highlights of the Bufo Journey
00:18:33
Christian Yordanov
But maybe that was also a good thing because think the nerves would have started to get the most, the better of me.
00:18:39
Christian Yordanov
ah um so we just went straight there and then johnny like for whatever reason i think he was a little bit nervous but um he didn't show it at least and then what he said to me is that when i was re uh sort of telling him on my journey the previous year that what happened was i was fighting it it was unpleasant while i was fighting it but then after when i started coming back from the bla the the light um i was like oh man why did i fight that oh you know ah that was a not a good idea to fight it but maybe i needed it anyway you know no problem you get what you get you know you get what you need uh but then he said that that kind of ah laid his some of his nerves which was like yeah it's great but then what bareheart said the shaman the facilitator what he said to johnny
00:19:33
Christian Yordanov
made I think that's what that's what made my journey a lot easier this time because what he said, ah paraphrasing a little bit here, he said to Johnny, just let you know allow yourself to feel whatever comes up, allow yourself to feel it.
00:19:49
Christian Yordanov
And Johnny went in to the journey very, again, he looked very peaceful and blissful and no stress, you know, just looked like, and he went twice, know, so he looked like really, again, like Victor, just kind of...
Transformative Power of Bufo
00:20:08
Christian Yordanov
hands arms stretched out and just lying down and just slight smile on the face and I'm like okay that okay this this I think this is so far so good like so far my sample size here people are like super cool oh and sorry to interject here another quick story is I had another client I think on maybe the Wednesday or the Thursday he also he had never done it, didn't much, has done any psychedelics much at all so he went and did it and then I saw him a few hours later and he was like wow that was nice, I can see there's good in the world and he was like wow I would love to do that again so and he just had this like smile on his face the before and after a few few hours was wow you know he's like okay yeah there is good in the world because he was like a little bit talking you know a bit black-pilled type stuff so that was another thing that kind of allayed my nervousness so yeah so Johnny went
00:21:05
Christian Yordanov
and then he was kind of still in his journey and then bare heart came to me he said you know you're ready i'm like yes so he gave me the the medicine and i laid back and then the next i don't know how long it could have been you know 30 seconds or a minute maybe two minutes i was just like you know I felt the the bliss and and even like at one point I got up because you lie down but I was like back on my kind of um sort of I raised my torso because it was so kind of like overwhelming like ah for me it seems too hard to embody it because it just It's so overwhelming to the senses, if you know what I mean. This sort of light coming in, this bliss. It's it's hard to explain. i don't think we can ever actually explain or even remember most of the the kind of the peak of it. But then what happened was I was like, i i was like started laughing from like the joy of, wow, this
Emotional Healing Through Crying
00:22:02
Christian Yordanov
is... This is the force that creates us and that we return to and kind of probably keeps creating different iterations of this multiple worlds. It's it's it's kind of whatever, the universe, you know. God god knows. We don't know. we're From our human vantage point, we know very little. The senses is most of what we see and we know it's a very small spectrum of the light and the sound the spectrum. So there's a lot going on.
00:22:29
Christian Yordanov
beyond our senses but this gives you a glimpse into that sort of that clear white light you know and um but so I started laughing maybe i don't know if for like I don't know 10 seconds, 5 seconds, 20 seconds whatever and then maybe i think this is where because i started crying after that quite strongly quite uncontrollably i started crying i think maybe that's where i also again i felt this sort of pain of um why like have i taken everything life and all this minutiae in life so seriously and and and worried about so many things and I started crying and then I like I don't know i cried so i ah swear I swear to you I
00:23:21
Christian Yordanov
did more crying in those whatever fifteen twenty thirty minutes i did more crying in that period of time and and I felt like more healing happened in those 20-30 minutes than in all of my previous journeys with psychedelics and plant medicines combined, combined, you know, like over the last you know however many years.
00:23:51
Christian Yordanov
dozens of different sort of things I've done and small amounts, and larger amounts, but like like the amount of healing that happened in that one hour, two hours that we were there that for that ceremony was more than the healing I've had from all the other stuff.
Unraveling Trauma with Bufo
00:24:08
Christian Yordanov
um And i cried so I cried so much and I cried so hard. And then what one of the facilitators, his daughter, she said, you know what, thank you because like so many men seem to have trouble crying.
00:24:21
Christian Yordanov
and you know it's actually a very very beneficial thing you know to to release emotions and trapped trauma and kind of just like stuck emotions in the body because you don't you don't just cry you're kind of dry heaving and I had a bunch of like a bunch of um um snot that I was blowing my nose I went for like half a row of toilet paper there and then at the end of the when we're kind of cleaning up i was like I apologize for the mess the cleanup job I gave you and then bare heart was like apologize for nothing and so i was like apologize for the behavior of my passion we all laughed um but um yeah so like she said Istara said then that um you know when you do that and I've kind of read about this from other stuff I've researched on plant medicines is the crying and kind of the purging whether that's you know again ayahuasca maybe you're maybe purge more through vomiting and but the tears that's another way to release and sweat and really anything it could also be you know uh crying groaning there's various and what happens and as you do that because also when when you're in the journey also like you you make sort of spontaneous hand movements and kind of like over various parts of your body and you you twist and turn and this is where like i think a lot of these layers of trauma that over decades basically since you were born maybe even
00:25:47
Christian Yordanov
Before that in the womb, there's ah an accumulation and layers and layers and layers. And I felt like in those 20-30 minutes of that ceremony, I unraveled many more layers, much more profoundly of the onion, as it were, than in, again, all my other journeys combined.
00:26:09
Christian Yordanov
including I think including the the previous Pufo ceremony although that was very I felt like very
Reconnecting with Family Post-Bufo
00:26:15
Christian Yordanov
cleansing and so on this was again just absolutely profound and I felt like in the first so I smoked it twice on the for in the first one I just felt a lot of like my mother's pain and what she went through and kind of also my dad so my dad's pain. i was crying about his pain and felt his pain of his life and all the trials and tribulations. And so thankful that I, you know, well for everything that they did for me. And, you know, i'll tell you, like I don't share, try not to share too much personal stuff, but what with me is what that did and, know,
00:26:52
Christian Yordanov
um I realized during that ceremony is that I need like just with but long and short of it is basically i haven't been speaking to my mother for like three and a half years we've not been communicating and during that journey even already I knew I have to like open up the the lines of communication um because you know, it just some of my sweetest memories were with with my grandparents, you know, and like to to, no matter what our past history was, and she used to be on SSRIs and, you know, the antidepressants, which they're not antidepressant. They basically kill empathy and zombify people and and you know just are really horrible.
00:27:39
Christian Yordanov
So you used to be on those for for multiple years and that kind of created lot of tension. um But in spite of any any past history,
00:27:50
Christian Yordanov
um I just couldn't ah if I if I had let it continue for longer and then my chuck Child and you know my kids future kids, or please God whatever like to not have relationships with their grandparents because of Stuff like this it would just be absolutely i wouldn't be able to forgive myself, you know 20 30 years down the line or whatever it was so I was like I had to open the channels of communication and then since then you know we've we've texted we we spoke on the on on the phone and for like 25 minutes the other day and um it's because the the medicine helped me first of all not just release my own pain and and all the kind of stored stuff from the years and and and um animosity and and kind of frustrations and and resentment and pain and and anger, it just helped me like get it out physically, right?
Beyond Talk Therapy: Bufo's Healing
00:28:50
Christian Yordanov
Physically in a way that talk therapy cannot do, you know?
00:28:55
Christian Yordanov
This is beyond talk therapy right where you're physically getting this stuff out of the body, the stored up emotions in the we know the organs, the muscles and so on, can the fascia can store these. So getting that out was so healing and then, but also feeling the pain that she went through and the suffering she went through and my, and same with my dad. And um it also allowed me to have a little bit more empathy for, for their struggles and strives and kind of see them as just yet another human that has dealt with a lot. And, you know, that's like when we're hurt, we tend to hurt others around us. So I just kind of,
00:29:36
Christian Yordanov
it allowed me to just release release many many layers and decades of like this stuff building up and and just kind of this undercurrent deep in kind of in your subconscious just gnawing at you and and also kind of making you get triggered by things that shouldn't trigger you and kind of changing how you interact with the world because of the pain and and this sort of um stored negative emotions and and and such such like. So that was really awesome and then I you know was with my dad and um and we do communicate with my dad, just not enough. you know it's like He was like that with his own mom so they wouldn't talk much. and So just like I said, I have to like just i have to make a ah more of an effort to you know make sure my my ah my daughter gets gets more time with her grandparents stuff. so i i this is when we're doing the kind of the the wrap-up of the session that's what i kind of i felt like because what bareheart said to to johnny as he was coming out is he said now the work begins and that that's what left me that's the kind of the phrase that i kind of said um this will be the my mantra for coming out of this healing ceremony is now the work begins because although there's a lot of healing that happened
00:30:56
Christian Yordanov
um this we can't just live in that we are we were put here by spirit, God, you know, source in a physical incarnation to do stuff we're here to do work, you know, we we're not here on holiday, on vacation if anything, the vacation is when you're dead you know when you have a when you're in sort sort of spiritual form you know as a sort of this light part of the the the great ocean um so that was kind of my mantra i need to do work i need to like make sure i start repairing these relationships and and and just kind of showing up more for my family as well because in the second when i smoked it the second time then i i felt a lot of my wife's pain and
00:31:40
Christian Yordanov
being a mother and and and how difficult that it can be um you know and and then just there was a lot of also gratitude for her and my daughter and my family and and what we have together and so a lot of ah like although there was a lot of crying i cried so much oh my god jeez louise like i was almost embarrassed at some point for everybody that they had to witness that But um I'm not embarrassed, to be honest, because like that's what I went i went there for for healing.
Facing Uncomfortable Emotions for Healing
00:32:11
Christian Yordanov
i didn't go i didn't go it's not i didn't go like for the buzz i didn't go for It would have been awesome if was all like blissful, sure, don't get me wrong.
00:32:21
Christian Yordanov
It would have been epic to come out with that. ah But I went there to Because we only get this chance once a year with these guys, with Bear Heart and Istara and Paolo was there.
00:32:34
Christian Yordanov
Another guy that was helping with the facilitation, organization of the ceremonies, amazing human being. um So i didn't I went there for to do the work.
00:32:44
Christian Yordanov
And I knew that when with sometimes with these medicines, the work is uncomfortable and it can be unpleasant and it it can hurt people. because you're surfacing up hurt, but the way to surf, to release it and let it go is you have to experience it, you have to let it sort of fully express itself to completion so that it's like the imagine a wave stuck mid wave, like this is a crude analogy again, but you're allowing the wave to fully go through its process
00:33:19
Christian Yordanov
And I think as especially as men, we don't do that because we sort of compartmentalize, we kind of suppress, we repress emotions, stiff upper lip, um we never cry. Like you know we like so many so many men, you know we we don't we have you could like maybe count on one hand the amount of times we've cried as ah as an adult man. you know you know That could be like two, three times in 20, 30 years in some some guys and maybe less. in some, you know, um so we we tend to really suppress and then there's also a lot of so um unconscious pain and and emotions where we we can't even, that's the beauty about some of these medicines is they, because of the sort of physical release that that that gets created the journey,
00:34:12
Christian Yordanov
the the journey you are on all the stored stored energy you're kind of releasing that and you feel like lighter after I felt so light afterwards it was i was ah like at one point like oh that's I feel light ah maybe because I because I like blew out like 10 pounds of snot during the session but that's kind of gross um So that's the the beauty ah of of the medicine again is because you're your releasing things of your past that you know hurt you but you just don't want to necessarily, you just buried
Bufo vs. LSD: A Comparison
00:34:50
Christian Yordanov
them. But you're also releasing things that you didn't know hurt you or in some way sort of made you feel fearful, whatever. And that's this goes back to the research
00:35:03
Christian Yordanov
of the great pioneer Stanislav Grof, he kind of invented, not invented, but kind of started doing the LSD psychotherapy and he was ah he had this sort of whole model of birth trauma um and you know for many people ah with LSD psychotherapy, which takes a lot, you could you know a session could be like eight hours, 12 hours, So that's the beauty of this Bufo Medicine 5-MeO DMT you can really do a lot of work in a very short space of time and more people can be helped faster. That's the beautiful part about it. But with the LSD psychotherapy, he found that
00:35:40
Christian Yordanov
people were able to remember birth trauma and then sort of just release it by, you know, again, feeling it through the its entirety and allowing it to kind of pass like a wave through them and then merge back into the ocean. that there was I always remember the story but there was one guy in one of his books that i was reading that he was doing well for himself he was a traveling businessman whatever but everywhere he would go he would like always find these guys to come and dominate him and strangle him and sort of he'd be like a I guess submissive um type and he looked to she looked for the guys to dominate him So when he did the LSD psychotherapy, he basically sort of, i don't know the I don't remember the exact detail details, but basically he had the cord wrapped around his neck when he was being born and that created sort of strangulation sort of fear. And then he was expressing that through through seeking that out. And then after the, after the you you can read these accounts online, I'm
Integrating Bufo into Daily Life
00:36:47
Christian Yordanov
sure. And there there's ah some great books by Stan and Stavcroft about it. But it's's it's really interesting. So a lot of these birth traumas and fear of death and stuff like that, if you can relive them and kind of experience them to the full and release them, that's what allows a lot of healing to happen. And again, this is like, not to say that you don't need to do talk therapy because like the integration part after the journey is important. and you can talk to like integration sort of ah coaches and they can help talk you through it and you know you can keep in contact with them and and talk to them once a month or you could do other like cognitive behavior therapy you can do even psychotherapy would be be more effective if you can also get the physical trapped emotions and trauma out of the body and there's another thing that I'm yet to research properly but there's the one where you you induce trembling
00:37:37
Christian Yordanov
ah It's called trauma release, um TRE, I think it was trauma release, whatever.
Physical Manifestations of Trauma Release
00:37:44
Christian Yordanov
a that's so But it's again, it's a physical, again, the physical is very important because it's like when a dog, another great example is when animals are scared, like a dog, they just shake, shake, shake, shake. So they don't actually store the trauma.
00:38:00
Christian Yordanov
And then, but when you also, when you look at like little kids, if they're upset or, you know, like,
00:38:07
Christian Yordanov
didn't get the pencil they wanted the color is not the right color they start crying or whatever um that crying is another way of just sure it's it's more i suppose childish way of dealing with setbacks in life but on the other hand what it does is it it releases, it doesn't allow for the for the trauma and the emotions to get stuck, it's when they don't cry or the animals don't shake that's when when when ah you know you can actually allow for the this trauma to stay in the body. There's some really good books on this like um The Body Keeps the Score, that's a really good one, he talks a lot about that. so But yeah, so some of these medicines, they will induce like shaking and again, this is yet another way to to to get physically the stuff out
Bufo's Role in Neurogenesis and Healing
00:39:02
Christian Yordanov
of your body. And then on top of that, they do do um they've done already some research that shows like the neurogenesis aspect and they basically rewire your brain a little bit. So you're not only like releasing pain and suffering and trauma and trapped emotions, You are um kind of coming to terms and accepting certain things that you know you were maybe burying, repressing. And then you know you are also then rewiring your brain in positive ways. This is, of course, if you take it seriously, if you take the medicine seriously.
00:39:35
Christian Yordanov
and then you do the integration and you make sure just you you get the most out of it it's like it's it's what you put in is what you get out if you just do it for the buzz you can do that with anything like with with weed with whatever mushrooms you can get a buzz with that but if you take these things as medicines and that you approach them the right way you can get a lot of healing out of it so that's why i went there to that ceremony i wanted no matter, because I already had a ah very sort of distressing half of my first experience the previous year, the first half of it was like wow so I was like well I suppose it couldn't get any worse than that so if that happens but i needed it and it will help me um i was like i will I will allow it to happen but then because of what bare heart said just whatever comes up just allow yourself to feel i said i'm gonna just whatever comes up allow myself to feel and just be thankful for it and um yeah um there the bliss there the crying the releasing of pain and a lot of gratitude a lot of gratitude for for everything that god source spirit
00:40:48
Christian Yordanov
whatever you want to call it the universe that gives us this life you know it's it's and just a lot of there's there's a lot of gratitude there that that's also very kind of very healing as well um so it was so funny then so i was crying like i'm telling like i was crying like uh mf yeah and then johnny he was kind of coming out of his journey and then we're doing a bit of the kind of integration talking about kind of the thing and bare heart said okay i think i think we still have time to go to dinner you know they had the um dinner at the conference so we're like yeah let's go to dinner all of us and uh johnny was like oh wait but i thought isn't christian supposed to go next
00:41:44
Christian Yordanov
He was like, did you go? I'm like, oh yeah, no. Because he thought I was crying as kind of like just me by osmosis absorbing some of his journey. it was just funny. We all laughed. i was like, oh yeah, you guys.
00:41:58
Christian Yordanov
Wait, I should go now. uh it's kind of funny but um i think it was it was such an amazing such an amazing journey you know and then we we got to spend a little bit more time in mexico because you know the the the airport was shut down and our flights got moved and stuff so it was fun to just kind of talk about experience and um And then I've kind of, since then I've been listening to some audio your books and some podcasts just trying really make sure that
00:42:30
Christian Yordanov
really make sure that this wasn't a one and done type thing i really again i didn't i didn't go for the bliss it's like come for the bliss stay for the for the you know incredible transformation because i went there i wanted whatever the medicine wants to give me whatever healing i needed it knows better than me you know um to allow it to happen and And whether that's hard or blissful, i was ready to to feel and accept whatever
Bufo for Personal Transformation
00:43:02
Christian Yordanov
came up. And i think just the little things like that, when you hear ah the the facilitator say those little words, little phrases here and there, they can really transform the the journey and and kind of what you leave with. Because it's also like, again, so my mantra the first year coming out of it was unconditional love.
00:43:25
Christian Yordanov
it all comes from unconditional love. God, Spirit, Source loves us unconditionally. It's the not even the kind of love a mother has for a child, it's just profoundly much more than that and this is what God has, Spirit has for us, right? so We are enveloped in unconditional love, no matter the drama and the events out in the physical world, we are all inside God's mind, we are inside God, we are God, we are a part of God and of course God loves us.
00:44:01
Christian Yordanov
And really physical death exists as ah at the from the perspective of a human, sure. And there is associated you know pain, suffering, and and and and and and loss associated with that. But at our core, at our core we are you know a part of God and God is eternal.
00:44:20
Christian Yordanov
you know it's And you can intellectualize about this for decades and read books and write books and and and pontificate but to me the reason why this is such a beautiful medicine is because you can feel it and then everyone I spoke to that that had done it everyone is like they felt it and it can't at the intellectual sort of brain mind level of a human you can't truly there's a few adepts that can, you know meditators, Buddhists, monks and Qigong practitioners, adept, Jesus Christ, Buddha, so the the you know saints, there's people that that do
Suppression of Psychedelic Use
00:45:00
Christian Yordanov
have that capacity. But I think for our us regular people,
00:45:03
Christian Yordanov
For most of us, if we're not adept and and we don't like intentionally just practice yoga or whatever for years to kind of get into these states, just this is such a ah such a profound, quick way to just just remember just remember that you are inside God.
00:45:25
Christian Yordanov
God got your back type thing, you know? um So it's I think it's a beautiful thing and I think this is why there's been sort of sort of this demonization of psychedelics since the 60s because yeah the governments and the pharma industry they don't want you knowing these things, they don't want you remembering that you are you know this part of this amazing incredible unconditional love that animates the world and and they want you scared and afraid and paying taxes and they want you taking their poisons and and being unhealthy and and if you see some of the reports of even like single sort of psilocybin or mushrooms or LSD sessions that's just profoundly helping people deal with not just depression and psychological stuff or fear of death with people that are like are in hospice care
00:46:17
Christian Yordanov
but also like um um just having these mystical experiences that kind of again remind you where you come from ah and then but also like through through the whole there's like this relative to new science of psycho neuro immunology where like having these experiences and what they do to the psyche or the mind
Recreational vs. Medicinal Psychedelics
00:46:40
Christian Yordanov
how that affects the immune system and and the nervous system and how people have had improvements in conditions that would be like otherwise only um through the lens of physical the physical world and kind of mainstream science that would have been physical problems, health problems that nothing ah directed at the mind you know would necessarily help because again it's out to autoimmune, gut problems, these are physical structure whatever things
00:47:12
Christian Yordanov
So like the the healing power of these medicines is amazing if used correctly. if you didn't notice and the Just kind of say, I don't think there's anything wrong with doing these things recreationally, maybe not 5-MeO, DMT or Bufo because it's just so profound. But like you can sure like you can do whatever you want. I do not subscribe to there's a certain segment of Christians that are like, oh, this ayahuasca is a demon. That's a demon. It's a demon. You're going to burn in health. and And at the same time, they they smoke or use tobacco products or or they drink. And it's just, oh, this is a demon because I'm i'm not open minded enough to freaking look into it and and kind of or I'm scared of it or I don't get it. So I think that's really dumb.
00:48:02
Christian Yordanov
I think, so why would God put these things on on the earth? You know what i mean? ah Like, oh, it's because he's testing us and then you're to burn in health for for for
Religious Arguments Against Psychedelics
00:48:14
Christian Yordanov
failing the test. I think that's so dumb. It's so infantile. It's just taking things way too literally when it comes to the Bible and religion, you know? So I think...
00:48:23
Christian Yordanov
the They use religion to kind of get people away from these things. They use, you know, ah law, you know, making them illegal and propaganda campaigns that you're going to jump off of the balcony and peel your head like a face like an orange. If you take the LSD, you go bananas, you go mad crazy.
History of Psychedelic Use
00:48:43
Christian Yordanov
um but when you kind of even just look at there's already research that's showing it, but even just if you look at like people's reports, some of the profound healing and and and and sort of life ah ah changes and improvements that have happened from from working with some of these medicines, it's...
00:49:04
Christian Yordanov
it's It's no surprise that these have been around for thousands of years in certain cultures and they've preserved them for so long. you know And I really think, again, i'm I'm not saying anyone should do anything. you know Everyone should do whatever they want. But if we if we educate ourselves about these things and then we're open-minded, I think it opens up a whole other realm of
Materialistic vs. Spiritual Insights
00:49:27
Christian Yordanov
exploration. Because like the worst thing, i think,
00:49:31
Christian Yordanov
ah right now for us is knowing what we know is to to just be stuck to to remain stuck in the sort of um
00:49:45
Christian Yordanov
materialistic paradigm that's been shoved down down our throats since we were basically preschoolers, toddlers, where the big bang created the universe, it's ah you know ever expanding, it will die one day, the sun will die one day, uh evolution uh uh you know a fish fuck the monkey or whatever or a lizard and now that's how you you're here because of random chance in evolution or some other shit like that is so so um limiting and there's a lot of people that were like atheists and or materialists that would do some of these medicines and then they come out the other end they're like oh okay you know what
00:50:32
Christian Yordanov
There is a God. There is God exists. There is a power that intentionally, intelligently designed us. You know, just from sometimes just from one session.
Microdosing and Spiritual Growth
00:50:45
Christian Yordanov
And sometimes not even like you don't have to do like a full blown dose. Even even like micro doses, so many people feel benefits in in in in in various ways, including like the sort of more spiritual side of things. These are medicine.
00:50:59
Christian Yordanov
They are medicines.
Misconceptions About Psychedelics
00:51:00
Christian Yordanov
And they're working very hard to make us think that these are sort of going to make us crazy poisons and they're going to use the new sphere. I remember when I was in South Africa in school, because we lived there for a while, I guess i was maybe in in so high school, about 14, and they would have uh former drug addicts which may have been actors now i think about it they would come and talk talk to us about how they got started to drugs there was one i remember one guy he's like oh we started with the dacha you know the the weed they call it dacha there and um then so it's first it was cigarettes then was the weed that's the gateway drug and then the lst and and then he got into prison and then he was doing the heroin and Before you know it, he was blowing bus drivers at the depot type thing. He didn't say that part, but I'm just thinking of Tyrone, you know the Dave Chappelle show, Tyrone, the crackhead. Yes, suck your dick for some crack. Oh, sorry. that's
00:51:59
Christian Yordanov
I'm sure there's women listening. I apologize for the behavior of my passion. So, but like, they they always, like, they were basically propagandizing and brainwashing us from such an early age there, you know?
Drug Propaganda and Hypocrisy
00:52:11
Christian Yordanov
And it was like that everywhere. Campaigns, on TV, Reef for Madness, the LSD scare. um and and And at the end of the day, who is running the drugs around the world, the freaking CIA, you know, the heroin, the cocaine, the crack cocaine, introducing them into, you know,
00:52:35
Christian Yordanov
lower socioeconomic areas to you know to mess people up and they're doing it with the with the more nefarious drugs so they have no problem smuggling and and kind of running and and growing and overseeing the the the the the heroin and and and you know all that the cocaine and the crack they've no problem like having a worldwide network of distribution growing all that stuff you know manufacture But when it comes to these other things, yeah, cannabis is a class A in um in the States.
00:53:07
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, sure. Sure, that's just as dangerous as as as cocaine and heroin, you know? So point is, I'm sure a lot of people listening to me are already open to this stuff anyway, but I think more more people, and again, like in my personal opinion, it's it's a crime against humanity.
00:53:26
Christian Yordanov
to withhold these from people and kind of make it extremely difficult and and andigma to to put the stigma on doing these medicines. Because again, like imagine like how much fear, especially now with war looming and stuff, how much fear people are in.
Alleviating Fear of Death with Psychedelics
00:53:42
Christian Yordanov
and um fear of death and fear of loss and and fear of the sun exploding and the aliens are gonna attack us and nonsense and and and and or an asteroid is gonna hit us, all this is like BS but then if you just once in a while, if you just remind, help people remind or or remember that hey god exists god loves us god loves us god is unconditional love this is what animates our existence we are eternal because god is eternal we are part of god we don't like physical death is simply transformation of energy think about it like this water
00:54:20
Christian Yordanov
water on earth, it can be in the ocean, it can be in water form, you can take it in a bottle, take it away, um you know, it can, as it's in the ocean, it can evaporate, it can, you know, go up into the sky, it can form a cloud, it can go, that cloud can travel inland, it can, ah ah those drops can drop on the on the ground, they can feed plants, they can go up of plants,
00:54:40
Christian Yordanov
ah you know, stems, roots, grass, the cow will eat that, that water will become part of the cow, you know, we we might eat the cow and that water becomes part of us and then, you know, whatever.
00:54:52
Christian Yordanov
so So on and on and on. That water changes forms and moves from place to place. But the water never died. Those particles that make the water up, the molecules, they never died. They're always there.
00:55:03
Christian Yordanov
They're always on the earth. And if God is, and ah the earth is an analogy for God, Well, you know, similarly, our the energy, the sort of this animating force that gives us life, which wasn't an accident, you know, it's not an evolutionary thing because, you know, whatever, Darwin.
Connectedness Through Psychedelics
00:55:23
Christian Yordanov
um So when you when people are reminded once in a while,
00:55:29
Christian Yordanov
their goals, their, their, their, the ability to control them changes, that people's goals will change, people might be better, not kinder to each other and might want to be more supportive of each other because we are all one sort of family at the end of the day, you know.
Bearheart's Spiritual Practice
00:55:46
Christian Yordanov
um
00:55:49
Christian Yordanov
so yeah and i asked as we we're wrapping up I asked um Bearheart I asked him how how often he he goes in with with the medicine and he said such such guys like he's he doesn't blab around you know he like me but chew your ear off for six hours he just kind of says a few things but they're freaking profound you know So I asked him, how often just curious, how often do you you know go in?
00:56:18
Christian Yordanov
And he said once a year. was like, whoa, that's like that's not a lot. So he said you know he he does smoke a little bit of cannabis and stuff, has a great relationship with it. But he said he mainly does that so that to to to to remind himself or to remember that he has no enemies.
00:56:43
Christian Yordanov
you know he kind of and he said that this was you know after the epstein files who just come out so the last couple of weeks there so there was all that talk about what they those motherfuckers are doing you know so but he's like you know there's we're all one family on the earth and then some of our brothers and sisters are very very sick they're very sick and they're doing very because of their illness they're doing very very horrible sick things you know but um So the way I kind of understood it is so he does the medicine once year just to remind him that don't have enemies or I don't have enemies he said.
Viewing Others as Part of the Human Family
00:57:25
Christian Yordanov
we don't have enemies or i don't have enemies he said Because if you if you label people or others or something, whatever, a country, a tribe, a species, um the weather, whatever, if you label that as your enemy, then...
00:57:47
Christian Yordanov
it creates that conflict, the violence, you know, if you say okay that country they want to bomb us, so we must bomb them first before they bomb us for bombing them. Hint, hint, who might that be?
00:58:00
Christian Yordanov
um So like if you if you label an enemy then that creates bad stuff for us. bad stuff for us So that was like, if he said a few profound things there. And, um, it was, it was, it was just such an amazing experience, you know,
Encouragement to Try Bufo
00:58:20
Christian Yordanov
to share it with, also with Victor and Johnny, this, this, this whole process was such a, such a healing thing, you know, and, um,
00:58:27
Christian Yordanov
I genuinely like ah I did um i like I did mention to some people that I had just done the Bufo or the day before I did the Bufo and then people ah would would be like at the conference would be like um oh man I would love to do that and I would just say very sort of sort of calmly I just took to look at them in the eyes oh trust me you will not regret it you know because no matter like no matter what happens even if it's hard at the beginning like the medicine will seem at least most of the time seems to just give you that the bliss and and and and you feel the you feel the love after it so people are like
00:59:09
Christian Yordanov
people are like um oh i'd love to try that i'm like yeah you do yeah you do you will not regret it uh so yeah this what an amazing journey um super super thankful that the the anarcho-pulco guys are you know organizing this and and you know bare heart is there to to to kind of help people that are ready to feel the calling to to go inward and to remember to remember where where we come from and what again what gives what gives them what gives this world what animated into life that force is is is amazing and um
00:59:56
Christian Yordanov
Yeah, I think you can't you can't describe the actual experience. I don't even remember really for the most part the real, that the light. You can't you can bring that back.
01:00:11
Christian Yordanov
So I wish I could tell you more what it's like. There are actually like reports of people out there that are much more sort of able to to kind of um embody the experience and and and basically...
Resources for Understanding Bufo's Impact
01:00:27
Christian Yordanov
describe it so that it's it's more understandable and then maybe if if doing more journeys and and kind of preparing better and stuff it it would help me to kind of understand it and and and explain it more but if you're if you're curious about what it's actually like there's some amazing there's a couple of books i'm listening i think the guy what's the guy's name martin ball he i think his podcast is called the entheogenic evolution so he's really because he's been doing this for like 15 years or more uh and the podcast is all about antiogenic and and antiogenic is not psychedelic so psychedelic connotes that it's like you know visions and stuff but this is not a visionary type dmt itself is more like you know weird stuff you see weird stuff but this is a lot it's
01:01:18
Christian Yordanov
not not even visual for for me at least for the most part you know some people see more visuals kaleidoscopic type stuff but it's uh entheogen that comes to like theos you know the theology kind of god entheogens basically just uh is talking about entheogenic medicines is like something that helps you feel i suppose god as as much as can be felt by a human with these senses you know but um Yeah, it it's it's a very personal thing for everybody. I think everyone has a different experience. But if you're interested in some of the reports of what people felt, ah there's there's a bunch of them online, there's forums and YouTube and whatever podcasts where people really give you a detailed account of what
01:02:06
Christian Yordanov
5, 10, 15 minutes sort of experience. It's incredible rich detail which is very, I think, at least for me and at this stage, quite therapeutic sort of and and useful to kind of read because it sends me back a little and it gives me snippets to build my to rebuild the picture of it a little bit more but yeah it's it's it's in inev ineffable if it was effable it wouldn't be it wouldn't be what it is and I think that's okay the the the ego the human mind like we try to crystallize and understand everything very
01:02:41
Christian Yordanov
you know everything is in its box um and this is where um the ego kind of doesn't help us especially it can fight it can try to um define so we have to sometimes especially men have this i suppose more trouble with this we just have to like let go of trying to de define and intellectualize it's more about just the feeling and and um allowing that that feeling kind of to to to to be embodied it's pretty amazing i have to say would i do it again hell yeah hells to the year would i do it again um i would absolutely do it again if if we go to an arc poco next year i'm i'm definitely definitely definitely gonna try and do another session if things are you know if things are going okay um yeah it
01:03:36
Christian Yordanov
It's, yeah, ah I don't know what to say. it's it Again, like, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. And if you just,
01:03:49
Christian Yordanov
if you could just kind of feel it, I think you would agree, you know, and I'm sure... I'm sure some listeners have already done it. But um it's like this Martin and Ball guy that I'm listening to a couple of his books and I i just subscribed to his podcast. he He basically, he was an atheist when he did it. And then he was like, after that, boom. Oh, no, there's for sure, for sure God exists, for sure.
01:04:17
Christian Yordanov
And it's awesome. Love all that stuff, you know. But um I think, I don't even know what I think. It's just, it's,
01:04:28
Christian Yordanov
I believe more people need to feel safe to
01:04:38
Christian Yordanov
to just get the opportunity to to to get to to just experience this medicine because if if more of us did and if more of us sort of remembered where we come from and what's underneath it all, you know, this physical existence at its core, i think a lot of I think a lot more good things will happen in the world and I honestly think that's partially why, you know, again, they're trying to keep these things away from people and scare people into them. I don't think i don't think the ah the only thing that's at risk
01:05:16
Christian Yordanov
really of course if someone if someone has heart problems and stuff that that's a whole different story i'm talking about like a healthy person the only thing that's a risk when when with with this medicine is really is the ego the sort of these constructs that we are comfortable with you know the ego our view of the world of our view of what is and what happens after death or whatever um if you're ready to kind of
01:05:45
Christian Yordanov
allow the teaching, the the medicine to to to to to work on you, I think, and and to let go of whatever, like your ego, your sense of self, um a lot of good things a lot of good things happen.
01:06:01
Christian Yordanov
And I think that's why I struggled the first time on my journey is because they said, this some facilitator I was listening to, they said, you can actually fight the medicine and and like you might not get the sort of the the blissful experience um and you could do that for a very long time.
01:06:21
Christian Yordanov
I think i I struggled for like 10 minutes my first journey or so, maybe even more, you know. um But it's just going to be a very, very uncomfortable process, right? So the the sooner you can let go of your ego, your sense of self, the sort of mind construct that's been created and solidified as it were over the decades of of being alive and just kind of, oh, that's my name is John. My name is whatever. I'm this, I'm that, I'm from here. My job is this. If you allow that to just kind of dissolve without struggle,
01:06:57
Christian Yordanov
and and just see that really, and a lot of people talk about this, but at the core, we are consciousness. Like that that force is like, you can call it also consciousness. If you understand that the eye the true eye is consciousness, and then everything on top is just layers of human form and the circumstances we were born in and our family, all that stuff. They're just layers and layers and layers on top of it. But at its core, that consciousness is,
01:07:23
Christian Yordanov
is the same consciousness of like another person and and that we are all the same consciousness of God that is just experiencing the ocean, experiencing um endless, countless waves in different shapes, forms and places in space-time. But at the core we are all the ocean. and I think that's the beautiful part of it and that's why it would create a lot of improvements in in relations to one another.
01:07:52
Christian Yordanov
and that's why like i want to end on a sour note but i think that's why they won't let stuff like this go viral and they will try to like oh this guy died that guy died blah blah blah oh this is dangerous they will try to smear medicines like this if they start going viral or something that's healing they will do a lot um because this opens up ah ah even like i think that the most sort of closed off people and and and ego driven people i think a lot of them at least for a while it just dissolves a lot of that stuff of like the ego and and the problems it creates and because the ego has this impetus to survive
01:08:38
Christian Yordanov
And then to do like threats, there's enemies, there's like, it has to protect itself constantly. it feels like it is protecting itself and you, where you are, you are the deeper layer below it, you know? So the more people see that, i think the faster our entire sort of the consciousness of of of of of humanity would,
01:09:03
Christian Yordanov
rise and then good things will happen in terms of our relations to each other helping each other working together and not be not falling for the fear and the doom and the bollocks and the gloom you know anyway think i think i'll end it here um Thank you for listening.
01:09:23
Christian Yordanov
And I will see on the next episode. Just I should mention, if you don't know, I have another podcast. If you put my name into your podcast player or you type in the Live Longer Formula or Christian Yordenov, it's my health podcast.
01:09:38
Christian Yordanov
I'm going to do a ton of content now in the coming weeks and months Facebook. I'm going cover fasting again in more nuance and depth. going show some studies and stuff and there'll be videos that will be on the YouTube channel that will be linked in each episode but go go to that podcast if you don't know about it yet because I will be in preparation for my next book on on on fasting and why it's terrible idea for longevity and health.
01:10:01
Christian Yordanov
I'm going to be pumping out kind of a little bit more nuanced content, which I think you might find but beneficial. And maybe you may want to share with fasting, loving friends, just to give them another perspective.
01:10:13
Christian Yordanov
The more people we can help sort of see that starving yourself to better health ain't such a good idea. i think the more people we can help. avoid the the health problems that could arise over years and decades of this practice so live the live longer formula is the podcast or just type my name in it will come up in your podcast player and then i think tomorrow or the next day i will i'll start like pumping at least two three episodes per week there so thanks for listening again and i'll see you on the next episode