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CheezeTalk S1 Episode 12 Packers and Life with Dave!
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AMAZING talk with Dave today! We talked about the Packers draft, Free agency, our current expectations for this years team, and more! We open up the show with Dave talking about how a HUGE Packers fan(Dave) ended up in Northeast Wisconsin. Please give a listen to this excellent guest speak his knowledge on our Green Bay Packers! Dave also shared with us that he is starting his own podcast diving into 80s music!
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:46
Speaker
What's up, everybody? Welcome to Cheese Talk Podcast. I'm your host, Brian Rago. I'm joined with my guest today, Dave, a.k.a. The Sproles on Twitter. Today, we're going to be talking about Packers and Life. But before I get to my guest, I'm going to give a shout out to the Oak Network for giving me the chance and opportunity to
00:01:07
Speaker
podcast under their umbrella. There is a giveaway, an 8x10 signed Jair Alexander picture. Once they hit 523 followers, believe they are 90 followers away, as Ohana underscore Packers. So Dave, tell me about yourself. Hey Brian, glad to
00:01:32
Speaker
be on the podcast. I follow you and followed you on Twitter for a while. And just in the last couple of weeks, I watched your guests, Emily, who's a buddy of mine and Fitz. So I hope I can live up to their high standards, their lofty standards.
00:01:50
Speaker
Yeah, so The reason I reached out to you is I think I have kind of a strange story I live right now in Northeast, Wisconsin. I live in Appleton and But but I am a recent transplant. I say recent it's been about 22 years. It's not that reason but but I was a packer fan I've really been a packer fan for the last 50 years and and I grew up and spent the first, you know part of my adult life in
00:02:20
Speaker
on the East coast, uh, in, in a community called Wilmington, Delaware. And by the way, for you, quick quiz. Um, and I've asked this to a lot of the people that I've connected with out here in Wisconsin. So Delaware is surrounded by three States touched by three States. What are the three States that are contiguous to Delaware? Maryland. That's one.
00:02:49
Speaker
Um, Rhode Island. Nope. One more guess. I don't know. I'm trying to picture.
00:03:02
Speaker
Yeah, I know. Here's the interesting thing. So the answer is Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Maryland. Now, you are with like everybody else because nobody else gets that one right. However, when I go back to Delaware, because we still have family there, I'll ask them, well, what are the four states that touch Wisconsin? And nobody gets that one right either. Yeah.
00:03:25
Speaker
So anyway, so I grew up in in Delaware and Delaware and the community I was in was about an hour south of Philadelphia and an hour north of Baltimore. OK, so.
00:03:37
Speaker
All of our media came from those two places, right? So you'd see back then, by the way, it was the Colts and the Eagles. And the Eagles sucked and nobody that I knew was fans of the Eagles. But how would a kid a thousand miles away from Green Bay become a huge Packer fan?
Becoming a Packers Fan
00:03:59
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Well, when I was just about the age where, you know, as a kid, you all of a sudden discover sports and you discover the professional sports. And right about that moment, my aunt gave me a copy of the book, Instant Replay, written by Hall of Fame guard Jerry Kramer.
00:04:16
Speaker
And I got to tell you Brian I read that book probably 100 times, not just cover to cover but it was a diary of the 1967 season which was the third NFL championship at the time it was, you know, that was something that nobody had ever done before.
00:04:34
Speaker
three straight NFL championships. And I used to read that book all the time at night before I get ready to go to bed and open it up and read a couple of days entries by Jerry Kramer and all that kind of stuff. So consequently, I did it being the only kid on the playground wearing a Packer jacket. Everybody else was wearing Steelers and Raiders and Cowboys and Vikings and all these other teams that were good back in the 70s.
00:04:58
Speaker
So for 20 straight years, I ended up being like the pariah because the Packers were terrible from about 1970 until, you know, Holmgren and Favre came in in the 90s. And there I was, you know, rooting for the Packers and had my cheese head, you know, and all that kind of stuff. And so I was kind of this bizarre thing. Well, life is kind of funny sometimes, right? Sure. A mentor of mine calls it karma.
00:05:27
Speaker
And in 2002, a corporate reorganization, I got offered a position in Wisconsin. And so I call up my boss, and I was like, well, Wisconsin is a pretty big state. And I was covering the entire territory. In fact, I had responsibility for the UP and Northern Illinois as well. I said, well, where do you want me? And I'm thinking he might say Madison or Milwaukee or something. He said, no, my office is in Green Bay. I want you to write in Green Bay.
00:05:55
Speaker
So then I dialed back and I called to the office administrator and I said, you know, I happen to know that your office is located on Lombardi Avenue. And I know the stadium's located in Lambeau Fields located on Lombardi Avenue, but I didn't know it could be five miles long. I didn't know where, you know, how close is the office to the stadium? And she paused for a minute and she says, well, from the other side of the building, you look right out on it.
00:06:20
Speaker
Well, I thought I had done and gone to heaven my first day in the new job. I'm driving up, you know, and boom, right there is, is Lambeau Field. I'm like, this, this is just, this is like heaven, right? Right. Yeah. Well, Lombardi, I mean, for people that don't know, ain't that big of a stretch.
00:06:37
Speaker
No, no. And like I said, from the east coast, I had no clue. I thought it could have been a five mile road or as it turns out, you're right, it's not not that long. And in fact, that office building is still there. I no longer work at that out of that office. I still work at the same company that I don't work at that office. But
00:06:55
Speaker
That's where I would park and it was it's the closest place where you don't you actually don't have to pay I probably shouldn't be saying this over live air I guess I don't know but I kind of sneak in and park there and you know what when I was working there I had a business card that proved that it was my work address, you know and just walk right over to the stadium so it's
00:07:16
Speaker
So that I realized, you know that old story, you're not in Kansas anymore, Toto, right? I realized that I wasn't on the East Coast because one of the first, so I moved out in the very end of March in 2002. And, you know, like two months later was May.
00:07:35
Speaker
And they were doing OTAs. And at the time, they did OTAs right there on, I want to say it's Clark Kinklefield, which is right between the Hudson Center and Oneida, right? And it's right there, right? I mean, there's no chain link fence. And I'm driving back from a business appointment, and all of a sudden I look over and they're practicing.
00:07:57
Speaker
So I pull right into the lot there, and I go across the street, and I play hooky for an hour, and I sit there watching practice. I'm from, you know, from me to the wall between, you know, with Brett Favre, right? He's out there throwing passes, and people are talking to him, and I'm like, I've died and gone to heaven. So I get back in the car and drive, you know, two more minutes back to work.
00:08:18
Speaker
And as soon as I walked in the door, one of the guys says, hey, how was Packer practice, Dave?
Moving to Wisconsin and Packers Passion
00:08:23
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And I realized, oh, I'm in a small town now. Everybody knows everything, right? I was busted very early in my career. Yeah. That's a great story. I kind of, my wife is from DePeer and I'm from just south of Madison. Okay.
00:08:43
Speaker
We were working Badger Games at the Regent Street Retreat, which is a bar down from, well, it was called the retreat, down from Camp Randall. And we had a mutual friend that was the manager and my wife worked at Beauregard and I was a bouncer and I had no idea who she was.
00:09:06
Speaker
we got introduced and things obviously, 18 years later, here we are. But I was, you know, I'm a huge Packer fan and when I found out she lived up in Green Bay, I'm like, oh, can we, can we go to, can we go to minicamp? Can we go, can we go? You know, I'm like a little kid in a candy store, you know, like I've, like the same few, I died and I went to heaven. Here I am sitting there on the side in the bleachers and she's running the Best Buy, get me memory card to my digital camera and I'm sitting there watching practice and there's Aaron Rodgers and that's when they had like Vince Young and
00:09:35
Speaker
as a backup and Charles Woodchin, AJ Hawk, you know, just the whole the nine. And it was pretty cool, you know, just to be able to be there and feel like you're part of practice, you know. Yeah. So it's a very, very cool story. Well, in fact, you know, back back in the 80s and 90s, we didn't even get the Packer games on TV back on the East Coast.
00:09:56
Speaker
they play at the same time as the Eagles and you know because they're both uh you know i i guess eastern side teams and they're always playing at the noon time slot well the you know if it was Fox or whatever you were getting the Eagles game you know and and and you wouldn't get the Packer game
00:10:14
Speaker
And so, oh, you might get like, if they played Monday night, fine. And this is before Thursday nights, right? So you might see one Monday night game a year. And then you might see one oddball, you know, Sunday afternoon or, you know, late afternoon slot game or something like that. So I would actually, there was a place called Damon's. I don't know if they had them out here, but, but Damon's was like a sports bar and they would have like eight screens up on the
00:10:38
Speaker
you know, big screens up on the wall, kind of like bdubs, kind of like that, but these were like really big screens. And I would go over and make friends with the manager, you know, and I would tell him, look, I said, look, can you just give me one?
00:10:54
Speaker
You had eight screens, just give me one of them on the packet. I don't care which one it is, just give me one. And sometimes you'd be able to do that. And that's how I would have to do it to watch games. So even when I got out here, and normally I'll make it to one game a year, but we get to see everyone, every one of the games. And it's like, that's awesome.
00:11:16
Speaker
And so again, that's where I thought I died and gotten to have it just because I could watch every one of the games and I didn't have to go to some sports bar and bribe the bartender. Right. As you mentioned, you brought that book into replay about Jerry Kramer. I was actually at St. Vincent de Paul on the north end of Green Bay. What was it, Thursday? And
00:11:42
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with my wife and I actually bought that book. It was there. It was like, it was, I don't know, like 99 cents or something like that. I haven't yet to start reading it, but you know, I got a Reggie White book, The Minister of Defense. I got a book about Lombardi, book about, you know, threat five and
00:11:59
Speaker
And I even got a book called when I was younger, boys will be boys, both Dallas Cowboys and like some of the behind the scenes things that happened with the Cowboys. Pretty, pretty crazy stuff happened with Michael Irving. Imagine that. Um, speaking of the Packers, what are your thoughts on this year's draft?
Packers Draft Picks Analysis
00:12:21
Speaker
Yeah, really good question. Well, first of all, you know you've got to say in good we trust, right? Because I think he's earned the right with the selections that he's made over the years and and in last year kind of proved that I mean this year. I mean a year ago this time we didn't know what. Jordan Love was going to be, you know he didn't really have much playing time and he just didn't know and you also didn't know about you know guys like.
00:12:51
Speaker
Jaylen Reed and Wix and guys like that. But if we look at this year's draft, I would say I have three comments about it. Number one, you can tell that they're prioritizing protecting the franchise because they picked three offensive linemen.
00:13:12
Speaker
And I read this somewhere. I can't remember who wrote this story, but it basically said Goot's philosophy is on a lot of the key areas that he needs to really reinforce that he's not gonna just take one dart throw. He's gonna try to stack the deck and get multiple guys. And I think you see that in this draft where the number one pick was, you know, Jordan Morgan attack a lot of Arizona,
00:13:39
Speaker
But you also have Jacob Monk and offensive lineman from Duke and Travis Glover, another tackle. So they got they got three eyes and you figure, you know, they lost Bakhtiari, they lost Yashnaim and they lost Run. You know, so they're they definitely need to reinforce that area. And so I think it's great that they picked those guys. And by the way, you know, safety tip. I know one of the questions you're going to ask is my favorite pick.
00:14:03
Speaker
And I don't, you know, like I said, I'm not sure who my favorite pick is right now, but what I think is a sleeper for a guy that three years from now, we're going to look back on is that Jacob Monk from Duke.
00:14:15
Speaker
And simply, you know, he had 58 starts. He was a two-time captain. To me, it's like, that's a Zach Tom. That's a TJ Lang. That's a Josh Sittin. We know one of these mid-round guys that most people don't know, it's on a household name, but I think they've probably done the research. They know that this guy is a player and he's just going to come in and do his job. So that's number one. Number two is,
00:14:41
Speaker
They obviously needed to reinforce the defensive backfield, you know, so they got four defensive backs, including Javon Buller to safety out of Georgia, who I think is probably going to be a day one starter, you know, next to next to Xavier McKinney.
00:14:56
Speaker
Um, but then they also got, you know, they got two other safeties. So again, that just goes back to the point about group saying, you know, sometimes it's better to have quantity and just put these guys into practice and you put them in mini camps and you know, uh, college guys, there's not always a direct translation from college to the pros and some of them figure it out faster. And some of them, it maybe takes a little while to figure that out.
00:15:26
Speaker
So I think that's where getting multiple guys is a big help. And then finally, I think the last two guys they got in the seventh round picks 245 and 255 could be home runs. You know, you got the quarterback from Tulane that I gotta be honest, I'd never heard of before, but all he did was win games and he had some huge plays and it's a
00:15:50
Speaker
you know, I like what Groot said even before the draft is, we got to get back to drafting quarterbacks because and you know that's what their thing has been draft and develop guys and you probably remember guys like Mark Brunel and and and
00:16:07
Speaker
Hasselback. Hasselback and Aaron Brooks. Yeah Aaron Brooks guys like that and they were you know they got these guys and they developed them for a while and then you know they trade them or you know even today with free agency you know the way they get the compensatory picks. I mean a guy after four years he goes and signs a big deal and with another team as a quarterback and then we get back like a third or fourth
00:16:34
Speaker
rounder is. So I love that strategy. I love that idea. And then the last guy they picked, Kaitlyn King, was a guy they fought.
00:16:44
Speaker
And his junior year might have been one of the top cornerbacks in the country. And he had a terrible senior year and not a really good combine. So you don't know, but he walks in with a chip on his shoulder and obviously he's upset at where he was picked and all that. And we've seen how that works for guys in the past. And so I think that could be, that's one of those sneaky picks to watch in training camp. It could be an interesting story.
00:17:14
Speaker
Yeah, I like Jevon Bullard along with bringing in Xavier McKinney at safety. I think Jevon Bullard's gonna just add to that swag. He's gonna make the defense play better, you know? You compare him with Jair Alexander, too. They're just gonna go crazy this year, I think. The defense is gonna make leaps and bounds changes compared to what we were last year. That's gonna be good to see.
00:17:41
Speaker
What, what do you think were the strengths and weaknesses last year for our team for the Packers? Well, you know, to answer the question on defense, I think you have to go back and, uh, I'm not, this is not to be an apologist to Joe Barry, but I, you know, until sometimes only in hindsight, do you kind of understand what's going on. I believe when they hired him.
00:18:04
Speaker
I believe the floor said, this is my, my thinking, right. But I think he looked at that and he said, you know, our defense doesn't have to be a shutdown group. You know, if we can, if we can force a team to go 80 yards.
00:18:22
Speaker
in little bites and it takes them eight, 10, 12 plays. Sooner or later, there's gonna be a penalty, maybe a turnover, or maybe we stop them on downs, right? Maybe something happens. And so, you know, that's the scheme he had. And for me, it was so frustrating because it was like a slow death, you know? Like, you know, they were just like getting five, eight, 10 yards at a crack and just, you know, just going all the way down the field and it was frustrating.
00:18:52
Speaker
And I think with the new guy, I think it's been a complete change. And that being said, we don't know what the results of the new system are going to be, but I think you're going to see potentially more big plays against us.
00:19:08
Speaker
But I think you're also going to see more aggressiveness and more opportunities to make plays, turnover sacks, and create problems for the offense. So that'll be interesting. On offense, I think what you saw, it was pretty clear. And if you go, again, hindsight's 20-20, right? But you go back and look, and you had a brand new quarterback who had had
00:19:32
Speaker
Only a handful of meaningful snaps before that you have almost a brand new receiving core And you know to to brand new tight ends a couple of brand new wide receivers even the veteran Wide receivers were second year guys and then Watson was down for most of the year Bach the Ari plays the first game and then he's out and they're bringing in a new left tackle, you know And Aaron Jones was out for a big chunk of the first part of the season
00:20:01
Speaker
So it took them a while to figure out how to work together and how to develop that chemistry that I think you need with offenses. And the good news is, except for Bakhtiari and except for Aaron Jones, the rest of those guys are back. So hopefully they'll be able to build on that chemistry
00:20:22
Speaker
And they always talk about the second year, the leap that players make in the second year. And so you're hoping that some of those guys, the Musgraves, the Crafts, the Wixes, the Reeds, that they're gonna be able to enjoy that second year jump. So I think that's where we can be cautiously optimistic about the trajectory that we're on as a team.
00:20:46
Speaker
Sure. Our weaknesses last year for me, I think our run game or our defensive run game, like we couldn't stop, we couldn't stop a nosebleed last year up the middle. Right. You know, um, I think another weakness was our strength and conditioning program. I mean, you have guys that had the same injuries. I mean, they're hamstring, hamstring, hamstring.
00:21:07
Speaker
getting rid of what we had and getting people from the 49ers organization in is going to be huge for us. And then they sent Krishna Watson and Jair
00:21:19
Speaker
down to UW Madison to get checked out by people down
Family Ties and Life in Wisconsin
00:21:22
Speaker
there. So, you know, they're, they mean business when they go to UW Madison. They're one of the best in the world for everything, you know? So I was actually just there yesterday. Another funny story about UW Madison. I'm the black sheep of the family. I'm the only one of the last four generations not to go to UW Madison. So my grandfather was born in Algoma.
00:21:48
Speaker
and he was the first of, I don't know, it's like 14 or 15 kids. He was the only one of 14 or 15 kids to go to college. He graduated from UW-Madison. He then moved to Delaware and that's where he lived all of his life. My dad was born in Delaware, but during the Second World War, dad enrolled in the Navy and they did an assessment thing and they said,
00:22:14
Speaker
We need engineers and you've got the capability to be an engineer. Our school is Madison. His service for World War II, they sent him to Madison to get his engineering degree. I always say that he was the biggest Wisconsin badge or fan and alum in the entire state, and Delaware is not a big state, but he was the biggest fan of Wisconsin. In fact, the house I grew up in,
00:22:42
Speaker
You know, if you walk down the hall, they had pictures of Caroline Tower, the Abe Lincoln statue, and Bascom Hall, right? Those are the three big pieces of art, you know, in the hallway, right? And that's what I grew up on, you know? So then when I came out of here, my daughter was five, but I was telling her, at five, you're gonna go to Madison. And she did, she graduated from Madison about five years ago, so.
00:23:09
Speaker
Yeah, I'm the black sheep. I'm the only one that that did not go to Madison. I went to the University of Delaware. Right. I didn't go to school down there, but I did party down there. I probably helped pay for some kids college big time by giving them tips. And yeah, so that's that's that's in the past. But it was definitely a blur. I'll put it that way. It was a blur living down there.
00:23:40
Speaker
It was like days ran into each other in between, you know, your days, you had to go work. Then you're getting out of work and you're going right back down there again to party and.
00:23:52
Speaker
Yeah, they do. They have earned their reputation as one of the top party schools. You know, my dad never liked to hear that, uh, you know, when those stats would come out, he wanted to believe that it was a good academic institution, which it is, you know, but, uh, but yeah, they, they have earned their stripes in terms of the party school. Well, a lot of the people that go to school there that are athletes, I saw an article ahead, uh,
00:24:20
Speaker
tether wall on the, on the cover, but how academic we, like the Wisconsin students are some of the top of the nation. So, I mean, they don't just go to one and done, they go there to play sports and they get an education. So that's cool. What are your thoughts on the free agency, McKinney and Jacobs?
Packers Free Agency Moves
00:24:44
Speaker
Um, you know, that the whole running back thing was a shock, wasn't it? I mean, you know, if you'd said we were going to go after Josh Jacobs in free agency, I've been like, what are you talking about? But, um, you know, again, in group, we trust. I mean, I think what they did there was they got a guy that, um, that is a little bit different kind of runner from Jones and definitely has a capability of being a real bell cow.
00:25:09
Speaker
has had, you know, a very good career so far. So I'm looking forward to what he can do. It's sad to see Jones go. It's terrible to see him put on purple. You know, but I think they looked at it and said, you know, best case scenario, maybe he gives us one more year, and that's if he stays healthy, and that's become a big if. So, you know, from that standpoint, McKinney was clearly, in fact, you know, I follow
00:25:39
Speaker
Andy Herman. So, you know, I guess a rival podcast. But I follow Andy Herman. I listen to him all the time. And in the before Phoebe even started, he did a thing like, what would be our ideal? And McKinney was the guy he had.
00:25:54
Speaker
And so I think the fact of McKinney and not just him as a player, but what he brings as a leader and what he, because he was a captain. And Jacobs was a captain too. So you got two guys that are leaders on their respective teams coming in, which is huge, especially for a young team like the Packers.
00:26:16
Speaker
And secondly, he fits perfectly with the scheme because he's used to playing in that kind of a defense. And they really needed somebody that's going to be a great communicator. That's going to be, you know, you mentioned Bullard. You got to have a guy that has already done it before that can kind of teach him on the field how to do it and where to line up and and what to do. So, yeah, I think those were two huge moves that we really needed to do. And, you know, you go back and think about guys that Packers have brought in and free agency over the years.
00:26:46
Speaker
whether it be a Charles Woodson or Julius Peppers or even go back to Reggie White. I think they look for guys that are not just a good player, but a guy that's gonna be a good leader. And I definitely feel that about both those guys, and I'm excited to see what they can do on the field.
00:27:06
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. I mean, you go back and talk about Reggie white, they brought in a big name for agency and him. They want a title. They brought it in Woodson. They want a title. Hopefully with McKinney and Jacobs, they can do the same thing. McKinney is only 24 years old. Then look at it. Look at his resume already. He has, as a safety, he has nine, what did I say? Nine interceptions. He has one pick six. I mean, he's, he's a go getter. You know, he's young. He's versatile. He's athletic. And that's, and then.
00:27:34
Speaker
We get Javon Bullard and those two attitudes that mesh together are going to just create a strong defense. I think for our team and it's, I'm super excited to watch the defense play this year. Big time. And, you know, again, that goes back to what good he's done sometimes in the past is you get a free agent, like when they got, uh, Rachon Gary. That year was the year that they also got Zenaria Smith, right? Impressive Smith. So I think getting that veteran guy and getting the rookie.
00:27:59
Speaker
and putting them together so that the rookie can learn from the veteran. I think that's really a great strategy. And so that's exactly what they did at safety. We've needed, I mean, our defense has kind of been the donut defense, right? You know, the big hole in the middle. So what do they do? They have Clay Walker and
00:28:18
Speaker
you know, now they have, you know, now they have Adrian Cooper, a linebacker, you know, so they got two guys in their high draft picks to hopefully help fill that hole in the middle, like you said, hopefully stuff the run. And then at safety, they've got McKinney and Bullard. So, you know, that's where clearly where I think they're looking at trying to fix what they needed to fix. Right. And I think
00:28:44
Speaker
going to the four three defense, I think that's going to be huge too. I think on the outside, I would, there should be some plays installed on defense where you have Rashawn Gary going back to how he was in college on all, you know, on all four, just, you know, just to get leverage and have, have a Cooper right next to him. You know, it is.
00:29:07
Speaker
Actually, that's another hidden thing in the draft. And again, I give credit to Andy and his podcast and the guests he has. But especially if you look at some of the guys they picked a little bit later on in the draft, whether it be that linebacker from Missouri Hopper, Evan Williams, Oladapo,
00:29:29
Speaker
the safety from Oregon State. These are all guys who, uh, oh, and, and also in, and, uh, Cooper, right? So all those guys really have a lot of experience and a lot of success blitzing. So, um, and again, I can't get in the head of the, you know, halfly said and whatever, but I don't think that's an accident.
00:29:54
Speaker
You know, I think they look at that and said, yeah, you know, the key to success today is the same as it was, you know, 40 years ago, there was a guy named Al Davis who was the.
00:30:04
Speaker
you know, the managing general partner of the Raiders. And his famous saying was, you know, in the first quarter, the quarterbacks must go down and he must go down hard. I can try to say that in Al's accent, but I'd probably fail. But anyway, I think that's, you look at it today and you look at the quarterbacks in the NFC North, you know, we don't know what we have in, you know, Minnesota.
00:30:30
Speaker
In Chicago, they had a rookie in Detroit. They have goth, but you know goth is no Lamar Jackson. He's no Mahomes. I mean, I think the secret is you gotta get after these guys. You gotta make him aware that you're there. You gotta hit him. And you know the league has taken steps to protect the quarterback and to keep you from hitting him late and all this kind of stuff. But you still, I mean, at the end of the day, they'll play good defense. You gotta make that quarterback uncomfortable. You gotta make a move. You gotta make him.
00:31:00
Speaker
you know, worried. And so I think, you know, a lot of those guys that they picked, regardless of where you line them up, you line them up at linebacker, you line them up with safety, you know, but I look at that. That's kind of one of the things that I'm hoping to see. I'm hoping that's what, you know, Halfly has in mind on the defense to try to get more pressure on the quarterback.
00:31:25
Speaker
Yeah, the pressure in the quarterback, the quicker you get to him, the less we have our defensive backfield chasing around receivers. You can't chase him around for five, six, seven, eight seconds. Someone's going to win, and it won't be the defense. So I think the quicker you get to him, the quicker turnovers happen. I also do the draft of Marshawn Lloyd out of UIC.
00:31:52
Speaker
I think he's going to be our second running back number two. And I think they drafted him because he kind of mimics Josh Jacobs style. And I don't know if they're going to have Josh Jacobs around for those four years. So get him action along with Jacobs and then if Jacobs gets too expensive, well, you have the next next in line, you know. So that's kind of kind of how I'm thinking on that.
00:32:18
Speaker
One other interesting tidbit on Lloyd is that he's not a small guy. I think it's about 220, but he's short. And short backs are harder for the defense to find. They hide behind the offensive linemen. But the other thing that Lloyd has that Jones didn't have was his speed. Lloyd is a 4-4 guy.
00:32:46
Speaker
Uh, what does it say? If you're even, you're leaving. I mean, he's the guy that you're not going to be able to track down. There were a couple of times in big games over the last couple of years where Aaron Jones had a huge run, but he got caught from behind and, uh, in that Niner game last year.
00:33:02
Speaker
He had a huge run, but he got caught from behind. And Lloyd won't get caught from behind. So I look at that and I think that's another missing element of our offense is the ability to be able to score from make a big play, make a long run. And so I agree with you. I think Lloyd's gonna be an exciting guy to watch.
00:33:26
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I saw a video too. I was looking up stats on Jacobs and he had no receiving touchdowns as a running back. Then I saw the video short video clip. I think I shared it on Twitter of Lloyd catching the ball and he, I mean, he just immediately turns around and he's gone. So I think
00:33:45
Speaker
get him familiar with the offense, get him some, some reps, get him in on those passing down, on those passing downs, you're going to pass to the running back and kind of, you know, go back and forth with him and Jacob. So that's, I'm excited to see how they utilize the both of them. And then when teams get sick of those two, then they're going to bring an AJ Dylan just to pound you down. So that's, that's going to be fun to watch. Yep. I agree with you. Yep. Farver Rogers.
Legacy of Favre and Rodgers
00:34:11
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Oh, that's a, that's a tough one. You know, uh,
00:34:15
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I don't know. I mean, you have to. You have to give Brett far of a lot of credit because before he came. You know that was the dark ages, right? And and he turned that whole thing around. So I think you gotta give him some credit for that. I think Reggie, one of the reasons Reggie came was he wanted to play with far right? They he played Reggie play for the Eagles and they played the Packers and the Eagles back then were really dominant defense and they were hitting him left and right and far just bounced up every time and.
00:34:46
Speaker
You know, and it just kept throwing. And I think Reggie really respected that. And so, you know, time has kind of dimmed both those guys. They both have had some off the field stuff and some, you know, some questionable decisions. So let's just leave it at that. But I also read a column recently that Rogers kind of redefined the way the quarterback positions played.
00:35:11
Speaker
And, you know, and so I think we've been blessed by having two absolute lock, you know, hall of fame guys. Um, it's, I can't pick, I mean, it's, you know, we, we, but we owe them both a lot. We have two Lombardis sitting there at the, uh, you know, at 12 65 in the hall of fame and you know, one for each of them. And a lot of people say, well, they only got one, you know what?
00:35:36
Speaker
That's one more than Minnesota has. That's one more than Detroit has, you know, for the entire history of the Super Bowl, right? So, you know, I don't, I mean, yes, it would have been nice to win more, but at the same time, you got to be thankful for what you have. And I'm thankful for both those guys and the contributions that, you know, they made. One other thing that was interesting, which is I think both of them had a very conscious understanding of
00:36:05
Speaker
of what it means to be a quarterback in Green Bay. And I think back to the night when Farve was retired or some kind of thing and they had Aaron was playing and Bart's last, I think, appearance in Green Bay and his health was failing. But just the fact that the three of them understood that they were the lineage of quarterback excellence in Green Bay.
00:36:35
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And I thought that's another thing that we want to be thankful for, that we have that kind of a community, that we have that kind of a team, that we have that kind of an organization. Not every place can say that.
00:36:47
Speaker
Yeah, that's a very good answer. I mean, you look at fire of the gunslinger, he also at one point was the leader in touchdowns, but he's also the leader in interceptions. And then you go to Aaron Rodgers, who was kind of the opposite as far as the interceptions. He didn't want to throw them. So he has one of the best TD to interception ratios, which is good.
00:37:09
Speaker
I love them both, just kind of wish things didn't end the way they did, but all good things got to come to an end. And I've said in the past, I think the last few years, Rogers is trying to make his voice be known a little bit more. And I think that people are walking on eggshells around him, wanting to do the right thing to make him happy or else there's going to be hell for him. I'm not going to throw you the ball.
00:37:37
Speaker
So thankful for both of them, thankful for the lineage we had at quarterback and the history we have developing quarterbacks. A lot of teams are killed to have that, you know? Exactly. So that's something we can always say. I think another answer to the question, what favorite coaching team history?
00:37:59
Speaker
Lombardi. You know, when you sent me that, I didn't know what to say. I mean, part of me wants to say Lombardi for a variety of reasons. But I just want to give you two. Actually, I'll give you three examples where I think coaching has really stepped up in Green Bay. One was Holmgren, obviously.
00:38:20
Speaker
turning around the franchise after two decades of ineptitude. And what I thought was really interesting was at the end when
00:38:32
Speaker
It wasn't really the end, but when he finally raised Lombardi after so many tries at trying to get there, he had a great comment about Lombardi's finally coming home where it belongs. And he said something like, means more to us because it's named after our coach and it belongs. We won the first two and it belongs in Green Bay. So I thought that was kind of neat. The second thing is a guy that doesn't get recognized a lot had a fairly short tenure.
00:39:03
Speaker
was Mike Sherman. But Mike Sherman was the coach and actually the GM at the time when they remodeled Lambeau Field. And he did a really interesting thing because they changed the
00:39:20
Speaker
they changed what we call runway or tunnel from where the players run onto the field from the north to the south and to the field. So but what he did is he took out a square of concrete from the original tunnel and that's still there now in the new tunnel where you and I can both walk across it. And he did that to say to his players that you're always going to walk over
00:39:47
Speaker
a part of the ground or this concrete or whatever that the iconic teams of the 60s did. So I thought that was kind of neat. And then finally, the story about McCarthy. In 2010, when the players came into their meeting room, they had all the pictures of all the championship teams lined up and right in front was a blank.
00:40:15
Speaker
And the blank was to say, that's where your photo is going to be. And sure enough, that's what happened. And I thought that was kind of a neat story. So I think we've been blessed. I mean, obviously McCarthy's, you know,
00:40:28
Speaker
He kind of outlived his tenure and home-grained same and that kind of stuff. But I think we've been blessed by having some really, really good coaches over the years. And I hope LeFlore can step up to the plate and demonstrate the same qualities of leadership that the other guys did to get us over the hump.
First Lambeau Field Experience
00:40:48
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Yeah, I like all the ones you brought up. I mean, they've all been a part of our history in Green Bay.
00:40:55
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One of my favorite though out of those that you mentioned is the floor. I've had a chance to talk with him, meet him, super nice guy, super nice family. I'm glad he's able to actually run the offense that he wants to run. I think go back to my last question and I think Rogers was making some changes in the huddle that favored him more than anything. So I'll leave it at that.
00:41:24
Speaker
You've been the games at Lambo, correct? I assume. What was your most memorable game that you've been to in person? Well, we're going to answer that two ways. The first was the very first game for obvious reasons. I'd been a fan for, oh God, 30 years before I set foot in Lambo. And that was the year of the reconstruction. The whole stadium was torn up. It was really kind of a mess. But I vividly remember walking in there.
00:41:52
Speaker
And I wanted to like literally go down on my knees and kiss the concrete, you know, like, cause I've heard so much about it and read some of these stories and it's just, you know, whatever. So it was a big moment for me, but, uh, kind of the backstory, I mentioned that, you know, a park across like kind of across the street. One of the guys that I kind of worked with was, uh, was, was driving, uh, to the game and he said, why don't you hop in?
00:42:17
Speaker
And I liked the guy and, you know, he was kind of a client, if you will. And I didn't want to offend him. So I said, sure. It would have been better for me to walk because, you know, trying to drive, he and he was driving over to one of the houses near the stadium where where he paid twenty five bucks or whatever and park on the grass. But it would have been faster for me to walk. So long story, you know, the end of the story was that I got in like like a minute before kickoff.
00:42:47
Speaker
And it's a December game. It's against the Bears. And I get up to my seat and there's no seat. There's no seat. Let's say I'm seat 12, right? And there's no space. I mean, people are just jammed in, whatever. So I'm walking down.
00:43:06
Speaker
Like, okay, who's got 11, who's got 11, who's got 11. Finally found the guy that had 11 and the guy that had 13 was sitting, you know, like, like right next to each other. So they parted about three inches between them. Right. And so I sat down and the whole first half, my shoulders were like this because I couldn't even get my shoulders in. Right. So I'm like,
00:43:26
Speaker
and uh and so that was my first experience right and then and then there was a lady in front of me in a big packer parka you know it's cold it's probably 10 degrees out and uh and she's got this big packer parka on and she's standing up at all the wrong times you know like like right after you know we'd have a mistake like a fumble or something like that she's standing up
00:43:48
Speaker
And when we score, she's not standing up and I'm like, what's going on with this? So finally after, you know, four or five of these things, I like tap her on the shoulder and I said, what's going on? You know, and she turns around, when she turns around, she had this big, you know, hood up over, she had this little, this little, I don't know, head warmer, whatever with the Chicago, she was a Chicago Bears fan. I said, what are you doing? She says, I'm wearing this parka, so you don't get yelled at.
00:44:17
Speaker
That was like one of those weird things. So then the other example was the playoff game against the Giants in 2016, I think it was. And that was one of the single best plays I've ever seen was Clay Matthews.
00:44:41
Speaker
And claim as we were leading, it was kind of early in the fourth quarter, relieved by a couple of scores, but the Giants were driving. They're up around midfield.
00:44:52
Speaker
And, uh, and Matthews comes around and, uh, and sacks Eli, but it's not just that he, he sacks him and he knocks the ball out and he's kind of behind Eli and he knocks the ball out of Eli's hands. And he knocks out with such force that it flies forward about 20 yards and his balls skitter on the ground. And of the 22 players, 21 of them had no clue what was going on. The ball's just laying there, but Clay keeps going and he keeps running after the ball.
00:45:22
Speaker
And one of the Giants like receivers or whatever leans over and it just, just like leaning over to pick up the ball. Right. And Clay just completely comes up behind him, depletes him. I mean, just and falls on the ball curls up and, and, and, and, and, and just protects it like that.
00:45:41
Speaker
And the rest are like look at each other, they don't know what the heck's going on, you know, and finally, they signal it's it's packer ball. But I thought that was one of the most incredible plays ever because you know it's not just a sack it's not just a strip it's not just a recovery but
00:45:56
Speaker
The 21 of you, any of the Packer guys, I think peppers was on the field and he didn't know what was going on, you know, but Clay's the only one that knew what was going on. And he jumps on the ball and ended up sealing the game for us. And that was it, you know, that by the way, that was the game that, uh, OBJ put his fist through the wall. Wasn't that the answer. Cobb had that inter that, uh, touchdown on the back of the end zone, like perfectly. It was a Hail Mary right before the end of the half. I mean, they had one play.
00:46:26
Speaker
And it was the thing of beauty, you know? And like you said, yeah, I mean, that was the other big play from that game that I remember is that that was the only time I've really ever seen a successful Hail Mary live, you know? Yeah. So yeah. I think that ball in Detroit is still up in the air, that Rogers. I think Richard Rogers is still huffing and puffing to get down there. When you hear,
00:46:55
Speaker
Green Bay, what comes to mind? The frozen tundra. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's what I think about. I mean, I think we're lucky in that we just have a real storied history. And the other thing that I think is amazing about it is that
Packers' Unique Community Connection
00:47:25
Speaker
Um, you know, yeah, sorry. Okay.
00:47:59
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. All right. Love you. Bye. Okay. I'm back. Sorry. Well, what I was going to mention is that I think, you know, look at what's going on at Chicago where they, you know, they, they don't know where they're going to put the stadium and the team's fighting with the city and you know, and all this kind of stuff. And, uh,
00:48:31
Speaker
Or what's going on with some of these other franchises that move. We won't have to worry about that, right? I mean, the team is the city, the city is the team, they're linked. And I think that's incredibly powerful and
00:48:49
Speaker
you know, that's because the one negative about the NFL, at least from my perspective, is I think you have a bunch of owners that are kind of wackos, you know, whether it be the, you know, Dan Snyder that, you know, I mean, obviously he's out now in Washington or the people in Cleveland, I think are, you know, that guy's not a good guy.
00:49:18
Speaker
And you have, you know, and that, that's it. We don't have to worry about that in green bay. We don't have to worry about some owner doing dumb stuff, you know, embarrassing the team or embarrassing the city and stuff like that. So I think that's, you know, real plus. Right. Um, favorite packer. I mean, I know you have one that stands above the rest.
00:49:42
Speaker
Again, that's so hard to say. If you go back to all time, I mean, part of me wants to say Jerry Cramer because he's the reason I'm a fan. He wrote that book and that's what inspires him as a kid. Part of me wants to say that Reggie Wade or whatever. So I think there's a lot of them that are
00:50:03
Speaker
I will tell you this. I probably will never ever again get a jersey. I think my first jersey was KGB. Remember that guy? And KGB was a neat guy, right? You know, he was a neat guy, but he didn't have a real long career with us. And then my wife got me AJ Hawk jersey when he was drafted. And again, AJ Hawk, I mean,
00:50:27
Speaker
You know, whatever. So it's so hard to tell. And some of the people that went out there, like the guy that I really wanted after his first year was Zidaria Smith. But then after what happened with him at the end, I'm like, oh, I'm really glad I didn't get a Zidaria Smith. So I love my guys. As long as they were in the green and gold, they're my guys. But I'm not sure I'm going to be in the Jersey business.
00:50:51
Speaker
Yeah, that's got a I have Charles Woodson and Reggie White jerseys. Yeah, and that's those are two. You know, like it said, if you'd asked me if I gave you one more answer, it might have been Woodson because he was just such an incredible player for us. So yeah, he was. Do you think love throws for 40 plus touchdowns this year? I don't know. You know part part of me thinks that.
00:51:21
Speaker
I'd say 50% of that is dependent upon health. Can he stay healthy and can they protect him well? And the other part of that answer is dependent upon the running game. Like you said, if they got Lloyd and Jacobs running and they get 15 touchdowns between the two of them, which is very doable, those are touchdowns that won't be coming through the air.
00:51:49
Speaker
It, yeah, it's a marker. It'd be nice to have, but at the end of the day, you know, it's like, let's have success as a team and not worry about the individual stats. Right. Good answer. You're straight forward with all your answers and I love it. Good answers. You're not swinging one way or the other. You're just like a team player through and through. I mean, I think that's how you have to win. You know, you can't be too dependent upon any one guy. And even though Jordan Love is the franchise,
00:52:18
Speaker
But I'd be more comfortable depending upon him to do what he does best and move the team and let the playmakers make the plays. Sure. You knew this question was coming, favorite type of cheese?
00:52:36
Speaker
I think I told you at any one time, there's probably eight or nine different varieties of cheese in my fridge. I love a good sharp cheddar, especially like a sharp white cheddar. I always have that. I'm always freshly shredding it for whatever I'm making. Obviously, I've got I've got mozz. I've got I've got Monterey Jack.
00:53:01
Speaker
I would have to, and this is probably not a good thing for Wisconsin dairy farmers, but the cheese that I probably revere the most, and I know that your earlier guest, Emily, knows this.
00:53:16
Speaker
is Parmigiano Reggiano, which obviously is not made in Wisconsin. It's made in Italy, but it's a very expensive cheese. I've got a friend going to Italy in a couple of months, and I told her, said, bring me back some Parmigiano Reggiano. But I also told her, I said, you may not be able to afford it, because it's really expensive stuff. But if you asked me my absolute favorite, that would be it.
00:53:45
Speaker
put it in like recipes, but I'll use it over top of stuff. Like if you make pasta, I won't put it in the sauce, but I'll put it over top, you know, that kind of thing. So yeah. I'm going ghost pepper.
00:53:57
Speaker
I heard you say that. Yeah. And yeah, now I'm, I'm, I live not too far away from Simon's cheese, a little shoot. And so I go there pretty frequently to get stuff. They've got a really good selection and all that. I'll have to look for that next time. Well, if you ever go, if you, you know, Scray's cheese into here, I don't, um, they're just out in the country. They're, they're right.
00:54:21
Speaker
I mean, you can watch them making their cheese and everything. It's like a mile from my house. Oh, okay. I used to go up to the pier on a regular basis and I'm no longer doing that. And the reason is that Uncle Mike's, I don't know if you know Uncle Mike's, I think you probably do. They're in Appleton, yeah. They're in Appleton now. So I'm on a first name basis with the staff there.
00:54:48
Speaker
Yeah. It's like if you're into pier and you're say if you're taking the back roads back like on highway 57 south. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of those roads, old Martin Road. You take a left on it and then it takes your right to squeeze cheese. So, it's I got you. So, yeah, that's kind of back where I live and I they actually gave me a a decal to put on my car to so.
00:55:14
Speaker
Yeah, but hey, they have a friendly employees and they're super nice and they have good selection of cheese. So it's a good place to go.
00:55:24
Speaker
As, by the way, as a public service announcement to the rest of your audience, to the, you know, the cheese stock podcast network. If you're ever anywhere in Northeast Wisconsin, check out Uncle Mike's bakery. They make the most awesome stuff, including the best cringles, the world famous cringles at the gym that I work out at. And, you know, you can tell I'm not, you know,
00:55:52
Speaker
Paul Cogan or somebody like that. But at the gym, I work out. I'm known as Dr. Kringle. So like you said, yeah, like you said, like, you know, I'm I'm on a first day basis with the staff there, but they make great products. And they have their fresh made cookies. They have donuts. They have cringles. They have cake. They have pie. They have fresh baked bread. They have everything.
00:56:18
Speaker
And these, I actually, even if you're just hungry and you can't afford a crinkle, just walk in there and start eating out their sample tray. The other day they had their NYT cookies, which stand for not your typical. They're not your typical. But it's like a chocolate chunk cookie. And they had those in sample. And I said to the lady, they had all like a whole tray of them. I said, you're trying to get me in trouble, aren't you? I'm just coming from the gym and you got all this free cookies out there.
00:56:48
Speaker
So, yeah. There's one in Green Bay on the east side over off of Mason. There's one in DePeer by DePeer High School. There's one in Howard on Velt, Lineville, Lineville. Then there's the Emporium down on Wisconsin.
00:57:13
Speaker
Yeah, they're definitely my go-to for bakery. You get your go-to, your niches and stuff like that. And that's Scray's Cheese and Uncle Mike's. I always support local, so that's why I do it. There you go. If you were to go to a tailgate at Lambo, what are you bringing with you?
Tailgate Food Ideas
00:57:35
Speaker
Well, you know what, your earlier guest, Emily may have stolen my thunder. I don't remember what, how she answered that, but she has a phenomenal meatball recipe and, um, that, that, yeah, I'd make those meatballs, you know, cause you can do anything with them. You can put them on a sandwich. You can eat them just, you know, in the sauce. Um, and I just saw this recipe that I haven't tried yet, but it's basically where you take kind of like the dinner roll and you hollow it out.
00:58:02
Speaker
and you kind of make garlic bread with it. So you put some garlic butter and kind of bake that just long enough until it kind of gets a little crispy. You stick a meatball down in there with the sauce and cover it with cheese and then bake it again until the cheese melts. That's what I think what I'd bring. That sounds amazing. You got all your major food groups. You got your bread, your cheese, your meat, you know, your sauce. I mean, you got it all, right? That's what I do. Yeah. Then the cringled will wash it down with.
00:58:32
Speaker
Crinkle and some Wisconsin milk. There you go, right? No, actually, a couple of weeks ago, I went field trip with my first grader. We went to Collins Dairy Farm, which is in Greenleaf. And just the operation and just how we do things there is crazy. Like a big carousel at 60 college go on for milking. So every seven hours, they go up on it. Wow.
00:58:58
Speaker
Every seven hours, a cow produces 86 gallons of milk. Oh my goodness. Or is it 86 pounds? Wow. I think it's 86 pounds. Anyway, it's a lot. And so they got to go every seven hours, and they had 1,400 cattle there. And it's just they had like a 32,000 gallon or 36,000 gallon
00:59:25
Speaker
temperature controlled silo to put all the milk in for the milk truck to back up to it to empty it out. This is a huge operation. They had all female cows there because they're just doing the milking for cheese in Wisconsin. So pretty cool to go all day. If you guys ever get a chance to go to a dairy farm and you want to know how stuff is done, it's very, very, I've been alive 42 years and I love my dairy products. And just the more you find out and the more you know, it's just
00:59:52
Speaker
crazy that you need to support farmers because they make the world go around big time. I'm going to say God bless our farmers because you know, they're out there in all kinds of weather, whether it's temblo or 90 degrees, like it's going to be tomorrow or whatever. And they're out there, you know, doing what they need to do so that we can go into a festival and buy the cheese. Yeah.
01:00:14
Speaker
Yeah, thank you. Right. Or Simon's. Are you an owner? Are you a part owner of the Packers? I am. Um, I, uh, yes. So, um, the first, the first time that I became aware that they were issuing stock was right after, um, super bowl 31. And my daughter was born about, um, like three weeks after
01:00:45
Speaker
Super Bowl and and you know, so she was an infant and they were issuing stock and I'm like I could you know set aside money for her college phone or I could buy stock and you know, I'm kind of getting the evil eye from my wife So I didn't and I and they regretted it ever since then and when I moved to Appleton in 2002 they had a
01:01:07
Speaker
the house that I bought, when I did the walkthrough, they had this certificate right up there on the wall. I said, I'm buying this house if you include that certificate. Well, they wouldn't. But I still ended up buying the house. But it was shortly thereafter that they had another offering. So I guess I've been an owner for about 20 years.
01:01:30
Speaker
Uh, so I, my name is on the season ticket list, but, um, right. I'm thinking about shifting it to my daughter. Cause I'm still like 60 some thousand on the list. And I think a couple hundred come off every year. So I'm probably never going to get season tickets. Um, but my name's on the list. All righty. Final question. I know you got something big, uh, big to talk about on your end. Correct.
01:02:00
Speaker
Oh yeah. I was going to say, who do you think is Green Bay's biggest rival? I may answer this differently from some. It seems like every off season the Bears fans are chirping like crazy and it's really annoying.
01:02:15
Speaker
Um, and I'm sure you get some of that too, you know, but, uh, my, my claim on it, and I guess the way I feel is our biggest rivals are those idiots out West, you know, that, uh, you drive across 29 and it seems like, you know, and, and by the way, I love the Vikings. Yes. The Vikings.
01:02:38
Speaker
I love Aaron Jones and I understand that what he did was a business decision, but I am so sick and tired of our guys driving 29 West to get over there, you know, whatever. I just like, you know, I mean, Greg Jennings and Farve and oh my God, you know, it's just... Longwell and... Longwell, yeah, exactly. Benedict Longwell, you know. And so I always think there was a book written maybe 20 years ago.
01:03:07
Speaker
before the whole farf called Cold Wars. And it talked about the rivalry. And I guess ever since I read that book, I believe, you know, so I always believe that the biggest game of the season is when we're over there in that stupid stadium.
01:03:24
Speaker
um the bird killer the bird killer yes and and i so they're to me they're public enemy number one the bears are kind of like that little brother that you beat up on right you know it's like i don't think it's a rivalry if we won 10 straight against them you know you go back and even longer time you go back the last 20 30 years and
01:03:44
Speaker
You know, we've won 80% of the game. So I don't think that they think we're there. You know, it's number one rivalry. They think we're the number one rivalry. They're the little brother. It's the Vikings to me. That's, uh, you know, and by the way, they may be down this year. I don't know, you know, new, new quarterback and all that kind of stuff. Um, we'll have to see what happens with that, but I still worry about them. You know, I, they're the ones that, uh, that.
01:04:11
Speaker
I think I've always felt they're the number one, the evil empire. All righty. Well, I'm going to let you take the floor here and kind of talk about.
New Music Podcast Announcement
01:04:25
Speaker
Thanks. I just want to give a quick shout out. My partner and I, who is, we're both on Twitter, are introducing our own podcast and it is not a competitor to yours so it's not talking about the Packers in life. It's only a music podcast but the title of the podcast is It's the Groove and the reason for that is that there's a longer phrase but you know when you're doing a podcast you can't have a
01:04:55
Speaker
paragraph to announce it. The longer version is it's not the beat, it's the groove. And what we mean by that is we've identified over the years and working together that there's a lot of music out there that people are not aware of or they're not aware of some of the connections
01:05:16
Speaker
within the music, in other words, not just the artists themselves, but the composers and the backing musicians and that kind of stuff. And so it's our intent and our mission to kind of shine the light on some of those people that are maybe less popular or less familiar to the audience.
01:05:38
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And so we're going to be you'll be able to find it's the groove pod is the Twitter handle and then the podcast itself is it's the groove and we also have a website itsthegroove.com
01:05:56
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So if you're interested in music, specifically music from like the 80s, my partner's Twitter handle is 80s Music Muse. I always try to stump her and I can never stump her. No matter what I come up with, she knows the answer. So together, we're really excited to be able to bring some content to the people that enjoy popular music and
01:06:20
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And that's what we're doing. Starting in, starting on June 14th will be our first drop. So perfect. I'll make sure I give shout outs almost every day to get you some followers and some people to keep you guys going. I have been known to do that in the past, so. Good for you. You know, it comes around, comes around, right? So right. Well, Dave. Thank you for.
01:06:49
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everything and thank you for joining me today. Awesome, Brian. Go Pack Go. Go Pack Go and I'll let you know when I get this uploaded to YouTube. Awesome. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Take care. Bye bye. Bye.