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OPE Season 3 Episode 10 Packers Clash with Titans
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Aloha and welcome to another episode of OPE! On this episode we preview the week 3 contest verses the Tennessee Titans! We break down the offensive and defensive battles and do a little over under!
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Transcript
Return of Jordan Love and Potential to Play
00:00:01
Mike __kawanomike_
Aloha and welcome back to another opponent preview episode of the Hana Packer Edition podcast. Joe, what a wonderful day. Love is back. Let's start it off. We're we're starting anew, so unlike the previous recording, we're starting anew. Jordan, love is back, baby. How are you feeling about that?
00:00:20
iowa_joe
Well, like we were trying to talk about until we had all kinds of audio issues and everything else. oh im um happy for I really think that there is a shot. This shows that Damofsky was not wrong in saying that last week wasn't just smoke and There was a legitimate chance of him playing last week.
Concerns and Scenarios for Love's Readiness
00:00:48
iowa_joe
So that mean it tells me there's a legitimate chance of him playing this week.
00:00:58
iowa_joe
kind of we would call this uh uh metagame this uh because we just tried to record a minute ago but we were all having audio issues and everything but just to metagame a little bit you you said that a couple of your concerns would be if tomorrow yeah
00:01:19
Mike __kawanomike_
It's a very tin foil hat concern, but yeah, if love gets the first team practice reps and then, you know, steps wrong getting off the team plane or sleeps wrong on the team plane or whatever, and it's like Sunday kick before kickoff, it's like, oh, I'm a no-go. And Malik's like, well, shit, I only worked with the second team this week.
Injuries and Practice Conditions
00:01:40
Mike __kawanomike_
Like does that potentially, and a step further than that, how different is Lafleur's game plan between for love and for Willis?
00:01:49
iowa_joe
and then the were talking about as tomorrow after practicing today.
00:01:54
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:01:55
iowa_joe
All the concerns, and I get all the concerns and I kind of have them too, but on the flip side, I'm not so worried about it because usually the next day is just to see how you feel.
00:02:06
iowa_joe
How do you feel after working out like that? If he feels good, then okay, you know maybe just do some light work and then go hard the next day.
00:02:19
iowa_joe
If he if he doesn't feel great, then all right we'll rest it and we'll try it again the next day So it's not a big concern on that one and and the other part of it with the Malik maybe only getting second Jordan's taken the first if it were me
00:02:38
iowa_joe
during
00:02:41
iowa_joe
for sure like just
00:02:48
iowa_joe
because i think the league is sorry
00:02:55
iowa_joe
yeahps
00:02:59
iowa_joe
yeah
00:03:09
Mike __kawanomike_
No, yeah, all very fair points and Like I said, those are like the super nit of nitpicking
Malik Willis's Professionalism and Attitude
00:03:17
Mike __kawanomike_
concerns. um it's It's good to see Love back out there. You were pointing out that there is it's not a demonstrative hitch in his giddy up or anything. You can see there's a slight gimp in his gait and stuff. but you know he could be just uh it could just be the way he walks i honestly haven't ever watched how jordan walks before the injury and stuff like you wouldn't be able to tell it's not like a oh yeah it's his left knee that's bum kind of thing right now so um
00:03:44
Mike __kawanomike_
good signs all around and you know that's one of the big bits of you know information and and the good thing too is um Malik Willis was asked about you know facing his so recently former team this week and he had an excellent answer about it you know he said like hey like it is what it is no ill feelings and uh the part of it that made me laugh he goes I'm i think i got paid the whole time i was there so i can't complain too much which is like the best avoid um the best avoid bulletin material responses possible and all and i think just my way to read between the lines on it it looks like a guy who like just truly
00:04:27
Mike __kawanomike_
You know, it's part of his journey, but he just appreciates very much the situation that he's in in Green Bay. And he just knows that there's no need to really get into it with Tennessee because like this side of the pillow is so much cooler for him and stuff. So yeah.
00:04:43
iowa_joe
and
00:04:46
iowa_joe
each
00:04:50
iowa_joe
the small video that somebody captured dig into as when this happened and see if it was liberty
00:05:03
iowa_joe
was a homeless
00:05:06
iowa_joe
and into a suitcase and pulled out yeah it he gave him his own code
Packers' Injury Management and Strategies
00:05:15
iowa_joe
about it.
00:05:15
Mike __kawanomike_
I'm pretty sure they said it was at the combine, so yeah.
00:05:17
iowa_joe
Okay.
00:05:20
iowa_joe
So that just goes to show what kind of person he is.
00:05:23
iowa_joe
you know, of course he's not going to talk bad about anybody, because that just seems like the type of person he is.
00:05:34
iowa_joe
but
00:05:40
iowa_joe
because in that like
00:05:45
iowa_joe
is talking shit and you know who does he think he is talking this did
00:05:55
iowa_joe
segment on our ah tuesday shows to shut the fuck up that's when that it's sorry guys but
00:06:12
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, so Packers are coming into this one. Little bit of a lot a lengthier um injury list than you'd like to see at this point and the at this point in the season. But LaFleur kind of played it off by saying that um excuse me that they intended to give guys a little bit more rest this week coming off of the unseasonably hot game in Green Bay to which they're going to Tennessee where it's in the high 80s low 90s you know it's that's the expected temperature for kickoff so expect a lot of the same condition game time conditions as we saw in Green Bay last week Sunday so they're trying to get guys kind of off their feet get them hydrated you know that hydration process starts in the week before and um
00:06:59
Mike __kawanomike_
didn't sound like they're overly concerned with too many injuries. You know, obviously you don't want to see Elton on there, but the hope is you hope that um it's more the illness than the glute. I joked that the glute is because he sat down too hard trying to get over the illness.
00:07:13
Mike __kawanomike_
But you know, you don't like seeing him and Morgan be on the injury list, but obviously we'll kind of track that as it goes through the week. But um other than that,
00:07:24
iowa_joe
it
00:07:27
iowa_joe
because i know
00:07:31
iowa_joe
the game.
00:07:31
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
00:07:32
iowa_joe
It could still be dealing with some of that heat sickness.
00:07:35
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah. So um DNP's were Elton, Jordan Morgan, Jayden Reed with a calf, which I believe is the same one as that popped up last week. So no real surprise, he got the day off. And then um Carrington Valentine was out today as well with the ankle. And then ah Kenny Clark, ah Kingsley Enigbari, Josh Jacobs, Tucker Craft, Jordan Love, ah Josh Myers, Zach Tom, and Rashid Walker all were limited participants. but Like I said, um the floor didn't throw too much caution to the wind on those.
00:08:10
Mike __kawanomike_
He kind of was more drum beating the drum that um this was just their way to kind of get guys a little bit extra time off. It's a little bit of a rough part in the schedule due to the weather and they don't want to burn guys out this early
Packers vs Titans: Game Dynamics
00:08:23
Mike __kawanomike_
in the season.
00:08:23
Mike __kawanomike_
So um doesn't.
00:08:25
iowa_joe
much We're. shoulder stuff is
00:08:27
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:08:32
iowa_joe
shoulder is are gonna be of the che
00:08:37
Mike __kawanomike_
the they They worked so hard to get rid of the hamstring problems that they forgot the upper body. But, yeah nah, I do wonder, like, obviously I know um i know that Tucker, it was a peck, but I wonder if, you know, that's all connected kind of thing where, yeah you know, the just like when it's a leg injury, how the leg thing travels, um I'm just so but making suppositions. um Morgan, that was what,
00:09:04
Mike __kawanomike_
I haven't seen confirmation, but I'm going to assume it's the same shoulder that had him kind of out the back half of preseason. And then Rashid, yeah, you know I don't remember seeing him really favorite during the game, but we will see what that turns out to be. but On the other side, the Titans on their end, they were pretty healthy. the Two of their three DMPs were ah not injury related, just day off rest. And then to Jay Spears was the other one with an ankle. So um you know Tennessee is coming in. They're 0-2. They're going to be a desperate team. You always say that when it's a... an opponent without a win no matter how high or low expectations you had for that team but Green Bay's got to expect the best punch from the titans this week because they're looking for a win to you know not get left behind in the AFC playoff picture as realistic or unrealistic as that is so um i only chuckle because and sorry the other
00:10:06
Mike __kawanomike_
that the the only um i chuckle as we get into the preview because um this is gonna be a step up for the Green Bay offense against the Titans defense but they who go from one young struggling starting quarterback to another young struggling quarterback for a wildly different dreams of the explanation. Whereas, you know, I would argue that Richardson's was a lot of, you know, inexperience at the position and, you know, that, you know, he missed most of his rookie year and stuff.
Will Levis's Performance and Packers' Defensive Opportunities
00:10:41
Mike __kawanomike_
Levis has started a bunch of games in college and he started like half the season last year for the Titans. And some of his errors are just, I mean, that would make mid 90s, Brett Favre confused and
00:10:55
Mike __kawanomike_
thank god homeward didn't coach levis because i think homeward's brain would have fused in the middle of a game if he had to coach levis i'm honestly surprised it never happened to him with farve but um man like we make fun of the jay cutler stuff justin field stuff and somehow levis takes it to another level each week you had the horrible interception return for a touchdown against the bears that for all intents and purposes lost that game for the titans and then last week same thing they're inside the low red the yeah i'd say they're about low red zone and he just doesn't want to take a sack so he ice cream crow ice cream cone f throws the ball right to a jet defender or i think he fumbled and then the jets recover it to which his coach is like
00:11:44
iowa_joe
but thank you but
00:11:46
Mike __kawanomike_
I think so, but before he could push it it, he got knocked and it fumbled or whatever.
00:11:46
iowa_joe
like
00:11:50
Mike __kawanomike_
So yeah, you have the that superb camera angle of from behind of Levis coming off the field to his coach going, what the fuck was that?
00:12:03
Mike __kawanomike_
oh two To which I'm sure we were all saying, watching that. So, Joe, can't take any opponent less seriously, but I mean, this one is tailor made for the Packers to just wreak havoc on another opposing offense.
00:12:20
iowa_joe
Well, I know it's the common stack going around, but isn't like the, what's his name? Patette.
00:12:32
Mike __kawanomike_
Petit Freer, yeah.
00:12:32
iowa_joe
Yeah, isn't he like clear at the bottom for win rates?
00:12:39
Mike __kawanomike_
something like that and he's giving up like 53 percent pressure or something on his on his past blocking reps and the titans or and then i i think it was more i can't find it right now but morally tweeted something that he had uh levis has been pressured on like 43 of his snaps and his ah rating on snaps where he's pressured is like 44 or something like that which is as Morley he kind of jokingly pointed out he's like you like never see those stats within like that much of that short of a percentage of each other so it just shows like he's under a lot of duress and he does not make good decisions with the ball when he is under duress
00:13:29
iowa_joe
should be
00:13:32
iowa_joe
right
Titans' Offensive and Defensive Analysis
00:13:36
iowa_joe
okay
00:13:46
Mike __kawanomike_
Oh, weapons, yeah.
00:13:57
iowa_joe
talking and pollard and pollard and pollard and ballard
00:14:04
iowa_joe
<unk>s the life out of me fear kids so much coming out of college and he's shown in the pros that he's got the ability to do whatever the hell he wants to do.
00:14:16
iowa_joe
gotta be the guy that contained it. Yeah, Pollard, you gotta watch Pollard too, but Spears is definitely the one you gotta watch. really these wide receivers still instill a lot of fear in you.
00:14:28
Mike __kawanomike_
So they're all they're all names that you kind of have known from being around. So you have Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, or like I said, the ghost of DeAndre Hopkins at this point, and then Tyler Boyd formerly of the Bengals.
00:14:41
Mike __kawanomike_
So, um yeah.
00:14:42
iowa_joe
And then Shreelon Burks, that was So I mean, this would be you know, this is the Madden lineup you'd want, but in real life you don't want to touch any of them just because you're not the one.
00:14:46
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:14:52
Mike __kawanomike_
No, yeah. they're all They're all at weird points in their careers, and the quarterback is just playing like hot garbage, which her per Green Bay tradition means that ah we'll le it there's there's only two conditions. Will Leveson is either going to throw five interceptions, or he's going to go off for 475 yards and four touchdowns. There's no in-between of it. so um But luckily, the defense has been up to the task of turning opponents over.
00:15:21
Mike __kawanomike_
um you know the stat that everyone has been throwing around is obviously not all interceptions are made equally but the Packers are at five interceptions through two games when they had seven through 17 regular season games last season so um they're gonna look to keep that up and as we've been pointing out um this O-line should this oppose this Titans O-line should allow them to continue doing so because um It's just not a good group. um I would flip a coin between Skaronsky and Cushionberry being the best lineman. Radens has been like super up and down. um Latham is a rookie who's playing way before he should and Petit Freire has been just god awful. so
00:16:05
Mike __kawanomike_
um you know
00:16:06
iowa_joe
thank we could get a mysterious illness for levis and masonruoff comes in and blackers come
00:16:12
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah Oh, possibly. I mean, to mail the mail went bad. But, um you know, I...
00:16:22
iowa_joe
keep
00:16:29
iowa_joe
like
00:16:31
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, so we'll see the you know, like I said this on paper um This is a big matchup for the Packers deep or Packers off defense against this Titans offense and honestly, it might be um really important for the defense to get you know, two to three turnovers this game because as much as we can joke about the Titans offense the Titans defense has been pretty solid this season, um granted they have faced one horrible offense in the Bears and one very unsold offense in the Jets um where so it's hard to say how you know how good they are again you know versus um strength of opponent but there's a bunch of names on this D on this defense that um you know ring pretty impressive when you collect them together um their D line starting the line is a bunch of run stuffers you have Jeffrey Simmons as they put what's up
00:17:22
iowa_joe
you
00:17:32
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, a lot of beef. ah Jeffrey Simmons is the headliner. So again, the Green the green Bay interior O-line is going to be facing a third um elite interior defensive lineman for the first third week in a row. And then Sebastian Joseph Day is just a steady, steady run defender. And Tavandre Sweat has been pretty solid um his first couple of games in the NFL.
00:17:54
Mike __kawanomike_
and It'll be, again, up to the interior O-line to get movement or at least seal those guys off so that, um you know, Jakubs and Wilson can get some action rolling in the ground game.
00:18:08
Mike __kawanomike_
And...
00:18:10
iowa_joe
great and at three sixty six and then the iandre cober
00:18:11
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah,
00:18:17
iowa_joe
along that line.
00:18:18
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah like...
00:18:22
Mike __kawanomike_
Coburn has probably never been the smallest guy on his roster. He's like, okay.
00:18:25
iowa_joe
But he has, because played with sweat, so.
00:18:33
iowa_joe
i think
00:18:37
iowa_joe
but
00:18:39
iowa_joe
i have any and sweat show
00:18:44
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, and then move to the second level. um got So Harold Landry is the name to watch, a guy that I wanted in the 2018 draft. It's been a pretty steady pass rusher, speed thread off the edge. He's got like three and a half sacks already on the season and um has been just a productive, steady player.
00:19:08
Mike __kawanomike_
and so the rest of their their linebackers so they got and Ernest Jones is a good player but the other two spots Kenneth Murray and Arden Key those are two you know former first-round picks who have been more um not less substance than their you know their draft status um has built them to be so you hope that You can take advantage of those guys a little bit, but again, the key is going to be how much you can control that interior D-line so you can get your blockers to the linebacker level to you know hopefully spring Jacobs again a couple times this week.
00:19:44
Mike __kawanomike_
And then on the back end, it's just a collection of guys who are really good players for other teams and are, you know, still playing solid ball at this point. So Chidovia Wousier, who Packers fans should be familiar with from his stops in ah Dallas and Cincinnati,
00:20:04
Mike __kawanomike_
Amani Hooker, like you're very familiar with Amani Hooker. um he's been a great deal He was the other safety that I really... Darnell was the first one and Amani was the other safety I really wanted in that 2019 draft. e and you know Amani has bore that out very well for himself.
00:20:21
Mike __kawanomike_
um And then Kondre Diggs and Jamal Adams, but Kondre is the one that actually starts come over from the Seahawks. And then the big name of acquisition is a luxurious need coming in from the Chiefs.
00:20:34
Mike __kawanomike_
So a good solid secondary. You know, some of these guys are a little bit longer in the tooth, but um how Green Bay's O-line handles the pressure and the distinction between whether love starts or um
00:20:38
iowa_joe
hands can.
Game Strategy and Playbook Flexibility
00:20:49
Mike __kawanomike_
Willis starts is going to be a key to how effective I think those defensive backs can be.
00:20:56
iowa_joe
playing pretty well so far this year. So they've got some guys back there that they can rotate in and out.
00:21:09
iowa_joe
and game
00:21:16
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:21:18
iowa_joe
back
00:21:20
Mike __kawanomike_
Don't mind that.
00:21:21
iowa_joe
me shoot it over there.
00:21:24
iowa_joe
Depending on what the Packers offensive line looks like, if you know, I know they're saying they're not too worried about the injury report, but you know, that's three out of the five starters.
00:21:34
Mike __kawanomike_
It's Wednesday.
00:21:35
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:21:37
iowa_joe
Yeah, it's Wednesday, the day but that's still three out of the five starters that are showing up.
00:21:40
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah that's what i'm saying is i'm agreeing with you is like they can say all they want that they're confident but you know another couple days roll around of dnps and it's like all right like who's and i guarantee you if
00:21:50
iowa_joe
yeah
00:21:54
Mike __kawanomike_
Elton is even questionable. They're going to think twice about getting um love out there against Simmons and so you know the the pressure that Landry can get off the edge.
00:22:07
Mike __kawanomike_
And this isn't to say that Willis is like lamb to slaughter or anything like that, but you're going to put the guy out there who can run around and protect himself better.
00:22:11
iowa_joe
you
00:22:14
Mike __kawanomike_
So yeah. like yeah you can't as as good as love looked it was only shells today you know it wasn't a full pad practice you're never gonna see him get hit in practice anyway so you don't know you know how that thing is really reacting under you know quote unquote true stress and stuff so um they're gonna they're gonna play it safe but um you know like you said it would make a massive difference this week as opposed to like last week against the codes because Cat's out of the bag on all, you know, I'm sure LaFleur still has more stuff he could go to with Willis at quarterback, but a lot I know he used a lot of bullets coming out of the bag on Sunday against the Colts, so that's on film. And then this is just a better much better defense than um the Colts defense overall. as As good as certain players on the Colts defense are, this unit is just top down a better unit. So um like you said,
00:23:13
Mike __kawanomike_
It helps that it's another AFC opponent. So while yes, every game counts and matters, this one dropping this one would hurt less than if love gets dinged up again and misses the rivalry you know the division game next week against the Vikings. So they've got to act prudently. And like you said, this kind of leaks into that idea that maybe love is practicing with you know a mix of the second string with some first stringers. And Willis is getting the bulk of the first string reps and stuff. so A lot of nuance there, but um I'm sure that Lafleur is keeping his cards, um you know as many cards in his hand as possible.
00:23:51
iowa_joe
right ah way
00:23:52
iowa_joe
because they don't do anything. All you're going to do is get a bunch of coach speed.
00:23:59
iowa_joe
Once in a great while, you may get a horrible thing from a coach, but yeah, I'm live.
00:24:07
Mike __kawanomike_
And it only ever happens in two moments. It's when they just pull their pants down because they're fed up with the world. Or it's like a complete brain fart like, I'm getting old and senile and it just slips out kind of moment and stuff. so
00:24:23
iowa_joe
that question
00:24:25
Mike __kawanomike_
right and that's what i throw that more into the pull my pants down because it's like it's just like here it is like the question is so dumb i'm just going to show you all of my ass in response to it
00:24:25
iowa_joe
go
00:24:39
iowa_joe
the floor is shownna hand very He's got plan that he can bust out now that Malik has a little bit more time in the offense that he can say, all right, we've got them to where they know that, because let's face it, they're going to have a hard time running on this Titans defense. Just like I said, all they got to do is run. There are two beefy guys out there.
00:25:07
iowa_joe
no now that believe is a little bit moretuitive he gets the start That's what the play action can start to talk about. That's weird.
00:25:16
Mike __kawanomike_
End.
00:25:18
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:25:18
Mike __kawanomike_
was And I was going to say that's where, as much as I was kind of irritated that they didn't use a lot of it last week, it's kind of good in retrospect that they were able to win without using a lot of play action, RPO looks where it's like, like you said, that part of the playbook is definitely still in the bag. And um J.T. O'Sullivan did a great breakdown on what few play action and RPO looks the Packers did use. But I do agree there that um there should be a lot more in the bag.
00:25:48
Mike __kawanomike_
i'm I'm talking more about the run stuff, but I agree. There's definitely stuff that, you know, everything in LaFleur's playbook is a counter to something else. So, um you know, instead of throwing the ball out to Jaden Reed, you hand it off this time or whatever and also...
00:26:04
iowa_joe
They still haven't run Wildcat and they still haven't run the options, so that's a couple things still left in there.
00:26:09
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, so...
Jordan Love's Injury Risk and Medical Assessments
00:26:11
Mike __kawanomike_
And then this ah this is just, no matter who's the starting quarterback, Not that any game shouldn't be, but this one in particular is ah every drive that ends in a kick is a good drive kind of game because this is a good defense and you're facing an offense that plays with one hand tied behind its back.
00:26:33
Mike __kawanomike_
because of how careless Levis is with the ball and how bad this O-line is. So ball security is going to be an an absolute premium. You can't be fumbling the ball going into the end zone this week and losing points that way. Got to make your field goal kicks. But just end every drive in a kick and I don't think the Packers will be disappointed this week. But other than that, Joe, I feel like we're just going to be going on more levels of conjecture. So do you want to just go into over unders at this point?
00:27:02
iowa_joe
any
00:27:04
Mike __kawanomike_
ha no I didn't type notes, same thing, so we're going by the we're going by the seat of our pants on this one.
00:27:04
iowa_joe
of my um got busy and forgot all about it
00:27:16
iowa_joe
Obviously the big thing is, not necessarily over under, but it's a yes, no, you know, it does love play.
00:27:25
iowa_joe
I thought I'm waiting for you to answer so I can...
00:27:29
Mike __kawanomike_
where's my coin where's my lucky coin ah I'm gonna say no just for the sake that I'm not gonna jinx it by saying yes and I know that I know that the gates to reverse jinx but I'm just gonna say no because and I'll just preface it by they're gonna be extra cautious like you said this matchup is a little wonky and I would feel differently if the O-line wasn't you know and like I said as much as LaFleur is playing it off I would feel way better if like Jess Morgan was listed and we knew that was an injury already as opposed to Anne Rachid and Elton are all and and Josh and I know Josh is kind of roll over from because he rolled the ankle when Love got hurt in Brazil too so but at the same time
00:28:13
Mike __kawanomike_
um Like you said, you don't like seeing 60% of your O-line on the injury list going into a game when your starting quarterback is also returning from injury potentially.
00:28:23
iowa_joe
And I'm going to go the other way. I'm going to obviously say yes, just because you know, it's going to be a four to five week thing. And, you know, I love the today that even Rappaport was fucking backtracking on what he said, that, oh, well, you know, he was the big one that was having a chat never saying, oh, it's going to be a four to five week three and now it's all jas no while he
00:28:47
iowa_joe
this weekend fucking he your bets on things
00:28:53
Mike __kawanomike_
it's And we kind of both talked about it where it, honestly, they're not wrong in the sense that in a perfect world, like if you were to simulate this out in a computer, the computer would sit love out for that long till the thing is fully healed. But it does just come down to, you know, whatever apparatus they put on it to, you know, the sleeve or whatever that they put on that knee. if as And he's comfortable moving around at the medical team, like,
00:29:20
Mike __kawanomike_
evaluates him and they're like yeah that's a guy who can protect himself you know move in the pocket enough and you know if he gets pulled down by someone it's not going to just pop on him again kind of thing so yeah i agree that
00:29:30
iowa_joe
you
00:29:35
iowa_joe
I had plantar fasciitis on my right foot with some of the shit that I was doing. so give me a week with him and i think i can get ready to go so yeah hackctorers he may call lee a you know would give me a call for oh you know the tens unit and bras and height
00:30:00
iowa_joe
and i agree with you that that's but typical but i never believed that this was a typical MCL strain just because the way he was moving after the game. And I know you can't always go out of the way you know this, but I said from the beginning, they're not going to let him walk around like that after
Running Game Strategies and Player Workloads
00:30:20
iowa_joe
the game. They're not going to let him carry his own baggage. They're not going to let him go up and down the stairs if he had a more serious injury.
00:30:29
iowa_joe
so Well, if you think about it, by the time Sunday hits, it'll be over So, I fully expect him to... I'll put it 75% that I'm pretty sure that he'll play.
00:30:46
iowa_joe
25% is there just in case. The odd seems like you said earlier, you know, he wakes up the next morning and his knee ballooned up from swelling or, you know, he stepped on something wrong or it just doesn't feel right or whatever. But yeah, so I'm going to say yes for that.
00:31:02
iowa_joe
so do this because good like
00:31:09
iowa_joe
it's gonna be interesting to see with all the be one heighttans <unk>ensive line
00:31:20
iowa_joe
that I haven't done any research on anything or any whatever, what Over under 20 and a half carries from Josh Jacobs.
00:31:27
Mike __kawanomike_
over I think it's I think it's over over for green bay to win it's got to be over and even if they're losing I think it's gonna be over but yeah I think it's just gonna be one of those kind of games
00:31:41
iowa_joe
and to be honest i think it's gonna be under I think they'll give and they give Jacobs a fair shake, but I think they'll have to, because I think they'll have to do a lot of splitting splitting the backs because, again, this defensive line is a big, beefy line that these running backs are going to get more down pretty damn quick.
00:32:05
iowa_joe
if you don't because of all the pushing and hits and everything that they're going to take. So I think they're going to do a heavy dose of Jacobs. I think he has about the 19 and maybe 20 on the diet carries. But you're also going to get a rotation of the manual Wilson in there. Maybe the kid that they just put on the 53 that
00:32:27
Mike __kawanomike_
Cooper or Brooks, yeah.
00:32:30
iowa_joe
a bre this next week
00:32:31
Mike __kawanomike_
brooksing Brooks, it's Brooks. Chris Brooks.
00:32:37
iowa_joe
and and maybe it might not even be in but they elevate alice very weather for one of his elevations. But I think they're just going to have to do a bunch of it, whether Malik is starting or whether Jordan is starting. You know, they as a team, they may hit over 30 carries, but I don't think they're going to do, especially with as hot as it's supposed to get down
Defensive Strategies and Game Predictions
00:33:00
iowa_joe
there.
00:33:00
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah. That's fair.
00:33:04
iowa_joe
I'll do this one again, since I'm on record for calling this or saying what's going to predict what's going to happen. over under half a interception for x xavier mc
00:33:15
Mike __kawanomike_
I'm going to say no just to keep the magic rolling.
00:33:21
iowa_joe
we're not even at the halfway point of the season so i got to say over just because i i
00:33:26
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah yeah um You're a man of your word.
00:33:29
iowa_joe
put will even predict how it happens. It's not going to be an amazing pick or anything. It's going to be another fucking grenade toss from Levis. And it's going to be in the area.
00:33:44
Mike __kawanomike_
Honestly, that's all you've got to be. And you know um as much as everyone, you know whether it's a spectacular player or not, you just got to take advantage of opportunities. that's the That's the big name of the game here. So yeah, I'm all for it, with regardless of how it comes to the Packers.
00:34:01
iowa_joe
And then the last one I'm going to keep throwing on here just because, and not just because it's hard, but because of the lack of offensive line that the Titans seem to have. I'm going to do over under two and a half sacks for the Packers and defense.
00:34:17
Mike __kawanomike_
over. I think for the first time this season, this D-line is going to really get unleashed on an opponent and we're going to see them just rip apart this O-line. Because like I said, Skuronsky is the best one and that's almost by default more than a...
00:34:32
Mike __kawanomike_
I hate talking bad about a former Packers, um you know, the the blood of a former Packer, but um yeah, it's not a good unit.
00:34:36
iowa_joe
legacy
00:34:46
iowa_joe
And i I'll be honest, I'm on record that I wasn't really high on Stronsky anyway. I mean, I thought he had ability, but not like round one top tier ability.
00:34:58
Mike __kawanomike_
He falls into that same bin that we've been talking about Morgan and Graham Barton when they were when Barton was mentioned as a pick for the Packers this year too.
00:35:06
iowa_joe
He was too upright. He needed to get lower. and his yeah yeah it we lost hot all over again I'm take the over just because, yeah, I think the whole line is going to be rough.
00:35:13
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:20
iowa_joe
think you hit the nail on the head with the last two weeks why there hasn't been as much sacks as Packer fans expect just because they had running quarterbacks. I know there are guys out there that are calling that excuse bullshit, but it's the truth. Just because the sack numbers aren't there it doesn't mean the pressure numbers aren't there. And I seem to think that I saw something that PFF has the Packers in the top five or top 10 of pressure rate.
00:35:52
iowa_joe
So that tells me that once they're done being conservative with a running quarterback, which Lewis isn't like the typical pocket passer, he can't get out and move, but it's not like a Richardson or a Hertz or whatever.
00:36:08
iowa_joe
So he's kind of that hybrid, where they weren't super fast, but they can get out and move.
00:36:12
Mike __kawanomike_
Yes, that's a good that's a good analogy, honestly.
00:36:16
iowa_joe
So I'm going to say, yeah, they're going to go over on that. So that's all I got.
00:36:21
Mike __kawanomike_
All right, well, that's gonna do it for a tonight. We've battled through our tech issues for the week and hopefully the Packers will battle through and come through, you know, get over 500 for the first time this season.
00:36:26
iowa_joe
thank
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00:37:38
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