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OPE Season 3 Episode 20 A Cheesy Forecast for the Packers' Feline Faceoff
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Aloha and welcome to another episode of OPE! On this episode we preview the upcoming game against the Jacksonville Jaguars! We look at some key matchups, discuss the arrival of Robert Saleh, give some predictions and tell some people to STFU!
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Intro
Packers' Challenges in Florida
00:00:30
Speaker
Aloha and welcome back to another episode of the Ohana Packers Edition podcast. It is our opponent preview for week 8 as the Packers travel down south to Jacksonville to test if Jordan Love is going to be felt by the same voodoo magic that once has once claimed both Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers before.
00:00:50
Speaker
Joe, and this is about as trap game as trap games get in the NFL. Packers are coming off of three strong wins. Well, three good wins. Two weeks, they're playing the Lions potentially for the lead in the NFC North. And in between now and then it's a game against the lowly jag wars.
00:01:12
Speaker
You know, they always talk about, you know, you know, there's no such thing as trap game, or all that kind of stuff. You know talk about how you approach it and all that kind of stuff Team really needs to focus in this week though because you can't skip on these kind of wins oh You know, I was gonna do an article this week about the Packers and the Florida curse and I got to look and and There's not an actual Jaguars curse
00:01:43
Speaker
I was mentally doing that too because I was like, wait a minute. Yeah. I mean, now they don't have a great record when it comes to playing in Florida overall since like 1971. Right. I think they played 44 games and they've only won 21 of the 44. So they've lost 23 and tied one or something like that, or they won 20, lost 23, tied one. But if you look at actual against the Jaguars, they've won, they've played two, four, six, seven times and they've won five of seven.
00:02:25
Speaker
and so ro they actually went I think Rogers was 2-0 against the Jaguars in Jacksonville. So yeah, it's kind of a funky one. They're always yeah weird games though. Right.
Jaguars' Team Composition
00:02:37
Speaker
So, but it, you know, both teams are riding off of wins. The Jaguars is a little bit more of a soundly win than what the Packers had over the Texans. But there is going to be a little bit of jet lag because they're coming right off of the London trip. they They do have the pieces, but they're also struggling a lot also. Yeah, this is a team that it's
00:03:09
Speaker
On paper, they should be better, but also it's a little bit of like a fantasy draft, you know, like a Madden fantasy draft kind of team. The the sum has never really equaled, the in the you know, that the what is the individual parts added up. There's a bunch of names on this roster that you're kind of like, I recognize that name, I
Packers' Injury Management
00:03:29
Speaker
recognize that name. of but you know And a lot of it is because like, all these are all guys that,
00:03:34
Speaker
Jaguars have picked early in the draft because you know they're the jaguans to certain people to many people so be that as it may Green Bay seems to have come out of the Texans game relatively healthy the only kind of name that stands out in terms of the the the missing from practice is kwe and that was kind of to be expected that he you know was knocked out so early from sunday's game with the concussion but he was at practice so that's a good sign for him moving through the week uh he didn't participate but he was there doing rehab with the rehab group on the side and so the the general track is you
00:04:16
Speaker
If you're progressing, you're either at practice on your participating or at least at practice on Wednesday. Thursday you progress, participate in a limited fashion. The thing to watch out for is not... Obviously the first one is for Coy to get back on the field, but then the next one is if he talks to the media. because Talking to the media is one of the benchmarks in the the concussion protocol. we'll see where he stands. The other big news on the injury front is that Davante Wyatt returned to practice today, which is a great sign. Really hope he can play this week because you'd like him to knock the rust off from missing the last three games with injury. And if he can get back this week,
00:04:58
Speaker
There's a lot of people who were doing a lot of hand wringing last week about, oh, like should he have gone on IR, blah, blah, blah, all that kind of stuff. He only missed three games if he plays this week. So he had gone on IR, he'd still be on IR this weekend. So he makes it back, then they made the right decision to keep him on the roster and just roll with the guy, you know, leave him inactive on game
Roster Management Debates
00:05:20
Speaker
day and stuff. So it looks like most of the guys are trending in the right way for the Packers.
00:05:26
Speaker
right. And I think he said in locker room media, that he and he's trending in the right direction to play or however he worded it. And so while it would be great, it would help out a lot. It's also not I don't want to say it's not necessary to rush him back if he's not fully, because the Jags do have a ah ah decent run game. So it'll be... How do you want to word it? it
00:06:08
Speaker
It would be more of a luxury to have him back this week than an absolute need. i I am still, I know we kind of had this discussion on Twitter.
00:06:21
Speaker
But I'm still not happy with how they did the transactions this week. I think it's a complete waste of and I know you don't say if you don't use them you lose them type thing with the IR designations.
00:06:39
Speaker
But I still think it's a complete waste of one to oh you know have Jonathan Ford as your designated to return and then you just go ahead and cut him anyway. you know if If that was the thought process,
00:07:00
Speaker
Then you were better off coming up with an injury settlement and saying, all right, we're going to give you this much for this many weeks. And, and at the end of those weeks, if you haven't picked up somewhere else and and you're fully healthy, then we'll bring you back at that time on the practice squad, or we'll bring you back on the roster or whatever, but don't use up one of your spots and then just cut the guy.
00:07:26
Speaker
And then, you know, you got to go through the whole process of bringing him back on the practice squad and all that anyway. So, especially when it comes to all you did was bring Orsik back. And I think everybody can agree that that was one of the worst decisions to be made was to bring Orsik back. There's got to be somebody out there that can long snap better than what Orsik can do. I just.
00:07:55
Speaker
That boggles my mind Especially when you have the kind of worry about Davante Wyatt Will he play is he gonna be fully healthy and all that stuff? Because at least Ford would give you another guy to fill in in that spot Yeah, and on one hand. It's like okay You still you know you have the call-ups, and he's on your 90 man and all that kind of stuff But I do agree with you like this play on one hand it's like he's back and he's available to play but on the other you basically use the irdr spot you know you only get eight of them now they change the rule so you basically use one of those eight on a guy that
00:08:39
Speaker
I know this is a little harsh to say it this way, but in a guy in four that you're almost banking on not playing for you this season, the way that that transaction, you know it's like he you you use the one use the designation to return on a guy that's like the ultimate break glass in case of emergency.
Robert Salah's Impact on Packers
00:08:58
Speaker
Like he's not even the first break glass. he's like inside There's a second break glass of emergency inside the first break glass of emergency in case of emergency box.
00:09:08
Speaker
so it is funky but that's the route they did decided to go the other bit of news on that front is marshall loyd is eligible but they did not open his 21 day this would have been the first week he was eligible but they did not open his uh return window the other big news out of packer's practice is matt le floor has brought his old buddy robert sala in to function as a backroom advisor to the offense to which the floor basically said like. He is going to be a guy that is going to be in the offensive meeting room to give insight on like this is how we would try to stop you so look out for these things you know for all intents and purposes.
00:09:55
Speaker
I joked at the time when it looked like Salah was on his way out, or actually, when he was fired, I joked that that move happened two years too late because Packers could have benefited from that a couple of years ago. But it's no real surprise that Lafleur was able to lure one of his buddies in. And as much as some people are like, oh, like why wouldn't he go to you know team A, B, or C? It's hard to fire you your defensive coordinator as a snap judgment reaction move to someone else getting fired from another spot. It's really hard to because, you know, it's it's not just new coat of paint kind of thing. There's a lot of optics. There's a you know, this was it the whole the backbone of the whole like why did the floor stick it out with manunga and stay the whole season with Drayton. And it's like right or wrong.
00:10:51
Speaker
he can't become the guy that's like, Oh, I hired the wrong guy fire him kind of thing and stuff. And suffice it to say that in this case, it's helping the Packers because they brought another football mind into the building. Well, you just got to basically go off of this good coaching decisions aren't made in mid season. They're made in the off season when you have time to Do your research, bring them in for interviews and all, but no snap decision mid-season is going to make anything. I know a lot of people are also doing the, Oh, well that must mean Halfley's only going to be here for the year. Halfley's only going to be no.
00:11:33
Speaker
I predicted this a long ass time ago, basically as soon as Sala got fired from New York, that LeFlore was going to try bringing him in as a consultant of some time, whether it was on the defensive side of the ball or whatever. They all have a history with him.
00:11:51
Speaker
Salah was the floor's best man at his wedding. Halfly worked with Salah in the 49ers. Back in 2019 or something like that. yeah yeah Yeah, it was the year before he went to Ohio State. Yeah, and before Salah became the coordinator or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So they all have a history with them.
00:12:15
Speaker
And that basically means Halfley is running a solid type scheme because it's a Shanahan coaching tree type scheme. So that doesn't mean Halfley's gone, especially when Halfley has already turned this defense around compared to what yeah Joe Berry and Petton had it. So if anything, this is just extra help.
00:12:42
Speaker
Now, I know, I know the floor is saying, oh, well, it's a fluid position and it's more of a part time position and he's going to be an offensive analyst. He's going to help us view our offense from the defense.
00:12:58
Speaker
But it's also to help Halfly. You can't tell me that Halfly is not going to be able to come up to Sola and say, hey, you know, what do I need to do different here? What do I need to do different there? What do I need to tell my edge rushers to get better pass rush? What do I need to tell my D lineman to stop the run a little bit better? And that leads me to another situation where now everything's getting well this will come in the segment a little bit later but now everybody's going after Rebovich for being a shit position coach it's like I can understand it in a way but what everybody is also failing to remember
00:13:44
Speaker
These are a bunch of young kids in a set in the first year of a defensive scheme change. And nothing changes overnight. And on top of that too, Rebovich is also in his first seven games of this system too. like They're all learning together. He was, Rebovich was fired, hired under the previous scheme and stuff. So it we can go down a whole rabbit hole, but, and I do think Lafleur saying it's a fluid system is nothing to do with Halfly.
00:14:20
Speaker
It's more to say that if someone else does get fired, Salah is on the short list to get hired by another team kind of thing. So it's like, he's, this is a landing spot for him, but we know that he is short in terms of his time in the building because more the the The percent chance that he finishes ah ah year the season in Green Bay is like 5% or less. but I think it is on how far the Packers will push it. yeah you know if the If the Packers are looking at a Super Bowl ring, I think Salah sticks around just so he can have that that that jewel to say, hey, Rodgers, look at this.
00:15:04
Speaker
Yeah, and what I mean is like that he hasn't like made commitments to another team kind of thing yet like I think you can still be coaching but you know like he'd have agreed in terms to like DC another team kind of thing or something like that so yeah yeah what his specialty is like I was need lying guy or yeah, that was that was what I was trying to think of too is I do think he was a deal. He's either a D line or a Linebacker guy. So hold on he I can't remember. I just know he jumped right into so he was yeah, so he and usually what defensive guys, they can do a little bit of everything, but I know a lot of them have their own specialty. So he's coached both.
00:15:56
Speaker
D-line, so he's coached both in college. He coached D-line for Michigan State and Central Michigan, line backing assistant at Georgia. And then he interned with the Texans, became their assistant line backer coach in 2009 and the 2010 seasons was the Seahawks defensive quality control coach. So you know he's coaching under like Gus Bradley.
00:16:23
Speaker
and oh shoot the one who was just the the one who was just oh the one who's the redskins coach now or the commander's coach now damn quan yes thank you and then What's it? And then he was the Jaguars linebacker coach from 2014 to 2016. Then the 49ers coordinator from 17 to 20. So kind of fluid, like you said, fluid, but he's a front seven guy. And it, it makes sense when you look at where his defensive has defenses have been the strongest with the Niners and with the jets, you know,
00:16:59
Speaker
the best secondary player between those two stops was Sauce Gardner, but you look at how those teams worked. It was stout up front, pressure, pressure, pressure. You couldn't do things up front and stuff.
Strategic Offensive and Defensive Matchups
00:17:13
Speaker
And then Halfly is more of a secondary guy. So it's kind of like you said,
00:17:19
Speaker
That's where that's where the the like, yeah, it's and that's where I you know, some people are like, is he stepping on toes and stuff? I was like, and you I think you're right where he's a resource. He is a walking encyclopedia for halfway to pick his brain on things and stuff like like he's on top of that i am also kind of guiding it to if they do decide to move on from like a rep of rich or you know, somebody in that in season, then Salah can step right in until they find the replacement that they want. If that's what Salah wants, which it sounds like he does. I mean, everybody kind of knew wasn't it the joke that had he not taken the Jets job, he probably would have ended up in Green Bay. Yeah, but like it was it was
00:18:10
Speaker
they yeah What's it called? I i can't remember i know that Lafleur wanted to hire his brother away from the 49ers when he took the Packers job. But also, the thing is, Salah was already the defensive coordinator of the Niners, so it's hard to like hire a guy away for a lateral move kind of thing. But yeah, it that's why the joke was, it's like, oh good, the Jets hired him, so we get fired soon.
00:18:37
Speaker
Matt will get to scoop his ass up kind of thing and stuff. But, Rams, I think was either with the Rams or the Jets. And that's who he was. Cause I don't think it was quite the 49ers. Was it? No, it wasn't. Okay. Cause he was the one that Shanahan was just like, no, you cannot. Cause he wasn't a coordinator at the time. And that's why I like, it would have been, you know, it would have been okay to like hire him away because he was like the quarterback coach and, or like,
00:19:05
Speaker
passing game coordinator or something like that. And so that that's the way that you like keep Salah if he like doesn't find a job that he likes next year is you let him become run game specialist or something like, you know, like they they give those overwhelming titles to guys and stuff like that. So and let's say the let's just say hypothetical I know where this is a game preview and we just kind of completely torpedoed it right now but Let's say, hypothetically, they get tired of Bassaccia's shit and not being able to control his special teams. yeah I'm not saying Salah will step into special teams, but that can allow him, allow somebody to come in as a special team coordinator, Salah to take a positional job and become the assistant head coach, yeah which Bassaccia has right now. yeah And it all just depends on what Salah wants. Does he want to be a head coach again?
00:20:02
Speaker
Or does he just want to kind of work his way back up? Yeah, and I was going to say that's the other route he could go. And honestly, I would trust him to be a special teams court. He'd probably have to bring in like a kicking specialist or something like that. Yeah, but yeah, but in terms of like the coverages and stuff, but the, you know, some people are like, Oh, what does this mean for Halfly? The only reason... Nothing.
00:20:26
Speaker
The only reason sallo the floor would even be eyeing Salah for the DC spot is if somehow some other team has already started to poke around about interviewing Halfly, which I doubt at this point.
00:20:40
Speaker
But we've seen guys who have been hired off of one year defense, but it would be a little different for Halfly because I know he's been in the NFL as a position coach before, but that was years ago. You know, he has this three year break in between where he was a college head coach and stuff. So it's not apples to apples, but that would be like the only reason that well,
00:21:04
Speaker
Yeah, I'm just going to say that would be the only reason I'm going to talk about why Salah would be the Dece coordinator next year. So but yeah, Twitter to the supposedly there are rumors that there have been teams kind of snooping, you know, seeing that Halfly is, is doing well. And but it's all speculation.
00:21:27
Speaker
And it could just be speculation because Salah has been in Green Bay. Yeah. But and I know, like I said, I've torpedoed this whole thing, but it is it is interesting to see Salah come in. Now, like I said, I predicted it from the start. ah ah But you have a guy who's been friends with your two main coaches on the Packers team. Yeah, it's not surprising to see him there.
00:21:51
Speaker
I think it surprised a little bit more when people actually zoomed into the photo of him and he had a a practice script in his hand. And that's when the floor kind of and then laflore kind of explained it that he's like yeah he does you know he has a position. so yeah like it It kind of explained it away in in a sense. But yeah, like you said, that just kind of goes to show Kind of like I mentioned before, like, this is a trap game because it is the Jaguars and, you know, uncommon opponent, disappointing outcomes, disappointing quarterback, whatever you, want whatever label you want to, it kind of comes to speak that it's more interesting for us to talk about Salah's potential role, short and long-term role with the Packers than the Jaguars, but we'll diverge into the,
00:22:45
Speaker
but i I mean, I get what you're saying, but then again, on my point of view, it also shows that the floor is wanting to make his offense better. And the reason that I think that is because we've seen that, yeah, Jordan Love has been doing great and the offense has been doing great, but they've gone back to playing the half a game again.
00:23:11
Speaker
The Minnesota game, they played at the second half great, but they played shitty the first half. The Texans game, they played great the first half and then they kind of trailed off during the second half. So if the floor can get second a second set of eyes in there and say, all right, tell me what we can do to adjust and not have this half and half where we can play a full game, then, you know, that's great for it. And they can go out and the Jaguars are the perfect team to try that out on because we know what type of team the jaguars are right now that yeah they they're not the best but they're still fighting hard because they got weapons on it yeah and i think where sala could also be looking to help is
00:23:59
Speaker
this offense it's so it's doing a lot better than it was at this time last year the record being flipped around from two to two and five to five and two speaks volumes but they're running into a similar issue where they're not a consistent offense yet there it's like you look at you know even the ram's game this last game it's big play big play you know there You're not seeing consistently those 10 to 12 play drives. I know they had one last week where they went 90 whatever yards and scored a touchdown. But then it's like, they do that and then it's like three straight three and outs or ah two three and outs and a four and out kind of thing and stuff. And you possibly bring in Salah to be like, okay, so we're hitting these big plays. Some of them are organic ones. Some of them are, we're just better than you the other team kind of ones.
00:24:50
Speaker
but what can we do better on a down-to-down basis to attack a defense kind of thing and stuff and The Jaguars, like you said, they have talent on both sides of the ball. like And like I kind of joked, this is a Madden franchise, a Madden fantasy draft kind of team. You've got the young, talented quarterback in Trevor Lawrence. You have his fast former college teammate in Travis Etienne, who's been
00:25:22
Speaker
honestly kind of disappointing and as a pro but also I'm not surprised because I always saw him as like more of a Reggie Bush type not like a true lead back and you know between the injuries and inability to just be a bell cow it's kind of come to fruition.
00:25:38
Speaker
And then you've still got, you know, you've got some weapons. You've got Christian Kirk, who I blame for Devontae leaving Green Bay because he signed that damn contract of his, Brian Thomas Jr., their rookie sensation who has been excellent so far in the NFL just receiver out of the, the, uh, drafted group this year. Yep. And,
00:26:02
Speaker
Gabe Davis, uh, who came over from, Buffalo. I think he's a little dinged up right now, but yeah, he's awesome. Yeah. He's been a, he's been a solid contributor for the, the, the bills the last few seasons. So good weapons. Evan Ingram is still, it's one of those, like, he doesn't, he's super inconsistent, but he's the kind of guy that it's like, Oh, who had 150 receiving yards and two touchdowns against the Packers.
00:26:27
Speaker
Oh, Evan Ingram, shit. He's one of those kind of players. But then you look at this old line and you're like, oh, maybe this is why they're not so hot on offense. And Cam Robinson has, you know, he's been okay, but he didn't participate and is dealing with a concussion this week. He would be there starting left tackle. Ezra Cleveland, I think he was with the Browns at one point.
00:26:55
Speaker
or the Minnesota. um'm Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. He was he was he was the one that was getting mocked to Green Bay and then Minnesota picked him. And then Mitch Morse, long time center, started with Kansas City, went to Buffalo, and he's on like his 12th season in the league at this point. Brandon Shurf, the former commander's guard and then Anton Harrison. So Yep. Hawkeye. And so you look at this group and, you know,
00:27:30
Speaker
It's not going to be a sexy game on the for the Packers defense against this this Jacksonville offense, but you've got to win up front. And this is a group that, especially with how much better the Packers defensive front has been playing the last few weeks, this is a game they should be able to dominate up front. Because production wise, this is a very middle of the pack team. They rank you know right down the middle in terms of yards per game, rush yards per game, pass yards per game.
00:27:59
Speaker
Points per game, they're kind of like bottom third and stuff. So this is a game where you hope to just see them continue to build on the momentum they've gotten off to over the last few weeks. One of the things I want to see is, so Halfly has done a tremendous job scheming up pressure the last few weeks. All those exotic blitzes, you know, the ones that Eric Wilson got his two sacks off of last week.
00:28:24
Speaker
The thing I want to see is just when he goes to straight four-man rushes, and not even when he stunts or twists guys, but just to see more wins in past rushes out of four-man rushes, and you're starting to see Roshan come to life, getting Davante back would be great.
00:28:40
Speaker
and Kenny has started to come to life too. Sorry, my wife has been, we've been searching for, we've been searching for her Halloween
Lighthearted Interlude
00:28:47
Speaker
mask. For at shit for those of you that were born in the 90s, she is being one of the slime the slime minions from the Power Rangers. So, the Putty people from the first Power Rangers. Thank you, yes. I'm getting all of it mixed up.
00:29:07
Speaker
but So crisis averted on that front. but yeah
00:29:19
Speaker
This is all you tell her this is all being left in. So she's going to go out to the tens of people that listen to this damn thing. yeah yeah We keep it we keep it interesting and we keep it candid on Ohana Packers edition. So that's how we roll. But i
00:29:39
Speaker
Joe said he's not editing that.
00:29:43
Speaker
No, she's not. very But anyway, back to the podcast. my show So back to the point where we want to see want to see the front four continue to ramp up as they've gone. I do think We've seen Kenny turn a corner. We've seen Rashawn start to literally turn corners the past couple weeks. You know, Rashawn's got like 16 pressures in the last two games. And I think you're going to start to see this unit take off because Rashawn looks more certain in his role. Kenny is learning when to hit the jute, when to hit to floor it and when to hit the brakes a little bit and stuff. People don't,
00:30:30
Speaker
appreciate how hard it is to go from a scheme where you're reading reacting to everything in in front of you to one where it's like hit the gas and go but then like I said for a guy like Kenny who's played eight seasons of hold the point of attack and look over a shoulder and find the ball and then it's like oh you're telling me I can just I can just go and you've seen a lot of plays where he's looked just too excited to go and you know he you see him almost at mid step like oh shit like that that was the running back and stuff and last week you saw him gear down play under control and it's a promising sign and you just want to see them build off of that this week well that's why i keep saying that even a lot of the packer content creators they just need to my favorite segment shut the fuck up because the
00:31:22
Speaker
They forget that this is all new for most of the players on this defense. Slayton, 3-4 player. Clark, 3-4 player. Quay, 3-4 player. You know these guys have been playing 3-4 since college.
00:31:41
Speaker
So this is still new for them. They're still trying to work things out on it. And, you know, oh, well, they, they, they shouldn't have gave Kenny that it looks like they shouldn't have gave Kenny that three third contract and, and Rashawn, you know, they shouldn't have gave him his contract and, Oh, Lucas has been looking like shit. So they shouldn't have drafted him. And it just,
00:32:08
Speaker
It drives me wild because it's like, come on guys. They're still ranked 13th in the league right now as a defensive unit. That's seven games into a brand new system, seven games into a brand new system. And they're 13th in the league. We haven't been 13th in the league since what, 2010?
00:32:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's been a while like I think the closest is they've hit like if you look at three weekek windows like I think 2014 probably had a streak here and there kind of thing and stuff and I think 2019 had a couple streaks and then you know, they got smoked by a couple teams and it was like maybe it's not real and stuff so The main thing is that with Halfly, it's trending upward. And it hasn't been the like in the, you know, everyone expected it to be from like, we were down here with Barry last year, and they wanted it to be up here with Halfly from week one. And it was really like, you know, in the middle of that. But the main thing is that you've seen improvements from the players, you've seen Halfly evolve. And that's the big part of it is like,
00:33:20
Speaker
Halfly's evolution as a play caller, a scheme developer, that's the most promising part of it. And it's really good that a lot of his exotic stuff has worked so well. And that's why I said I want just his very like core four man rushes, coverages to start to take off. It was a really good step that last week they finally had a strong defensive game where they really dominated the Texans without turnovers. You know, they they went through a game without forcing a turnover and they still held in NFL offense a good one under 200 total yards, which
00:33:59
Speaker
Is just an excellent outcome. I don't care what anyone says about and everyone's like, oh, they gave up, they gave up 22 points. You're supposed to win that game nine times out of 10 in the modern NFL. If you have a good offense yourself. So well and that'll go on to something that I have another thing I have in the next day in our, one of our next segments too. So, but yeah, I completely agree. People are overblowing a lot of the situations and they're under.
00:34:27
Speaker
They're under, I don't want to say underblowing because that's not a fucking term. selling their Yeah, they're underselling things that they should be a little bit more worried about.
00:34:40
Speaker
And so just relax. re Relax. Just like the IO walk-ahead said. Yeah. R-E-L-A-X. Relax. You was right about that. But it would be a lot different if we were still seeing results like we did under Joe Berry. But we're not. Exactly. So.
00:35:01
Speaker
guys are being put in positions to succeed. And this is a week where I'm really excited to see you what Bullard Evan Williams are going to be able to do. If Quay can't go what that means for Cooper, maybe you see Hopper start to get, you know,
00:35:15
Speaker
At some point, you want to see Hopper start to get on the field because he was always going to be behind Cooper because they were, you know, this is kind of like the Musgrave Tucker crafting from last year where it was like Musgrave was always the guy they were going to just force feed. They flat out told you, this guy is going to get snapped. We're going to get in the ball and we're going to live with the down spot. Tucker was the guy that it's like, is he going to get a chance to do anything except get his ass kicked everywhere?
00:35:44
Speaker
not quite the same but same idea where it's like from day one they said we have got to find a way to get Edgerin's explosive athleticism and physicality on the field and they you know the the off-season injury the preseason injury hampered that and it's you know slowed the development curve but we've seen his snaps increase on a week-to-week basis Hopper was always going to be behind but especially if Quay misses this game you kind of wonder if maybe they start to like and I'm not saying he's gonna play like half the game but he gets a handful of snaps here and there kind of and you might end up with no more than like nine in the game but
00:36:23
Speaker
Those will be the first nine reps of of defense in his regular season NFL career.
Packers' Defensive Strategy against Jaguars
00:36:29
Speaker
So really excited to see what they do. And like I said, if if Wyatt can get back this week, I do think I agree with you that it's not.
00:36:38
Speaker
Super important that he's back this week, but it would be good for him to kind of knock some rust off against this Jags offense before you go against that Lions offense next week. That's going to be so physical. They're going to just you know try to do what they did last year in Green Bay, which was just embarrassed Green Bay and put the game in a position where we just weren't able to come back from it. So.
00:37:03
Speaker
gotta prepare for that but this is a good week for the defense to put good stuff on film and honestly this is a week where McKinney should have a shot to get back on the interception train because Lawrence will put the ball up in harm's way because he throws with anticipation. This line isn't very good. And especially if Robinson misses the game, he'll be down his starting left tackle. he will put the ball up and, you know, trust his guys to come down with it. And I think that McKinney should have a shot at an interception or two will come Sunday. The only one that I'm really scared of out of the wide receiver room is going to be Brian Thomas.
00:37:45
Speaker
Yeah. And because that guy has been lightning this year and I, I, like I said, I was going to write a, uh, an article, but all of a sudden I got hit with writer's block and I was having, I was struggling to put words on the page, but I was saying that I would like to see Jair go up against Brian Thomas. But the thing that hurts is Thomas is six four. Yep.
00:38:16
Speaker
But the reason I would like to see Jair go against Thomas is because you have the veteran who's physical, who can cover, you know, it's got the speed, he's physical. And he's got the experience going against the younger, more inexperienced guy. And I think it would throw Thomas off to have to go ah ah against that. Yeah. So Even and I and that's the thing is, like, I don't think Jair will cover him the whole game, but I think Halfly will go to it enough early to get in Thomas's head, throw him off enough and give enough situations where Lawrence is like, nope, can't go there kind of thing. And so and then that the big one to me is.
00:39:06
Speaker
Bullard has been playing a lot. He's been the primary slot defender recently. And that means that he is probably going to be covering Christian. was that me now yeah so I was just saying that Bullard is my one to keep an eye on because yeah, ah he's goingnna draw he's probably gonna draw Christian Kirk in the slot and that's a big test for a rookie and I know like grading hasn't necessarily been super
00:39:37
Speaker
but I don't think it's been super harsh on Bullard, but also like he doesn't have like you know this grade to be enamored with or anything. But I think he's done well you know as an incoming rookie who started from week one and has played all over the place on Halfly's defense in like a a ah in a variety of roles. And he's done all of them solidly to well.
00:40:04
Speaker
And I want to see if he can take that next step. So that'll be a big one for them. But it's going to start up front. Like I said, this is not on the level of like the Titans game, but you want to see this is kind of more like that Rams game where it's like they should be able to do stuff against this O-line, but you want to see them keep having an aggressive mindset. On the Packers offensive side,
00:40:32
Speaker
Like I said, this this Jaguars defense has a lot of names of guys that I'm like, I would have been okay if Green Bay drafted these guys. big name up front is Josh Heinz Allen out of Kentucky. He has turned into a very solid pass rusher. You know, classmates with Rashawn in terms of draft class. And he's become a really good player.
00:40:56
Speaker
Travon Walker came off a double digit sack season last year. He's got six already this season and then old nemesis Eric Armstead, formerly of the Niners, signed with the Jaguars this season. and um He was questionable last week and he's dealing with a shoulder injury this week.
00:41:17
Speaker
Who knows, maybe Sola could give a little bit of um um insider, you know, in inside baseball ideas on how to best take advantage of Armstead. You know, that's kind of the kind of advanced scouting you want to get from that kind of thing. But this will be a solid test for the the Green Bay O-line. You know, this front four has talent.
00:41:36
Speaker
Green Bay O-line has played better. Rashid Walker, in particular, has really started to cut down on his penalties. And you just want to see them continue to improve. And, you know, some people are like, oh, they kind of got exposed last week against the Texans. Texans had the best pressure rate in the NFL. They were going to get pressure at some point. And that was one of my things with how Lafleur called the game last week, where I was kind of like,
00:42:00
Speaker
What are we doing? We're spending too much time trying to like get the ball outside, like just attack. So as much as it's on the O-line to perform this week, it's also on the floor to scheme up this game to keep this Jaguars front four off off kilter. Because if you can, I think that their second and third levels can be taken advantage of some. I think this is the type of game that Jordan Love can explode in.
00:42:30
Speaker
You know, they do have players on their defense, but it's not a great defense. I think they're ranked like 27th in the league or something like that. Or maybe it's even 27th in run defense and 31st in pass or something along those lines. So their 27th overall in yardage 30th in points per game against the run.
00:42:51
Speaker
their sixth but that I think is kind of sheep or wolf or it's a it's a false you know it's it's false because they're giving up the 31st most uh pass yards per game and um i forget how many pass yards per game Yeah, they're giving up the 31st most so touchdowns per game. So yeah, it's not a great defense. Like I said, like we've both been kind of bouncing back and forth on. The sum does not add up to what you'd think the individual parts should add up to. So I'm pretty sure that the Packers are like plus seven and the Jags are minus four on takeaways. So
00:43:38
Speaker
This should be a game where as long as Jordan keeps his head, the mistakes should be low and the points should and yardage should be high. But there's really not much more to talk about. We know what we got what the Packers have got to go into or gotta do to go in with the Jaguars. They just got to be smart about what they're doing. They don't need to overlook them to
00:44:05
Speaker
It is Florida, stay hydrated. you know it Just be smart about things. Don't overlook them and focus on the lines because that's when you can be undercut.
00:44:21
Speaker
But yeah, there's not much more I can say about this game. Yeah, one of the names to watch is Foye Oluokun. He is their starting will. He is activated, designated to return from IR.
00:44:39
Speaker
He's been dealing with a foot injury, but I don't know I haven't gotten a feel on how ready he is to return He's a good space player coverage player, but like I said, he's missed the season up to this point So who knows what version of him you'll be getting if he comes back in secondary It's a bunch of the the one name that sticks out to me is Andre Cisco safety from Syracuse. I wanted the Packers to draft him a few years ago. Well, other than that, and
00:45:12
Speaker
They should be seeing old friend Darnell Savage on Sunday as well. So we'll see. But like you said, I just think the Packers have too many weapons on offense to for Jacksonville to cover up. It's just going to be King Green Bay. And I do think, like you said, this is going to be a game where Green Bay, to protect its defense, they're going to try and possess the ball. The floor always does. but you want to just be able to you know lean on this defensive line, tire them out, and just control time of possession, and control the pace of the game, play it on your terms, and dictate action that
Game Control and Predictions
00:45:49
Speaker
way. And that way, LeFlore would probably tell you, like if he can win this game with just five offensive drives, he would. If every drive was like an eight-minute slobber knocker, he'd be like,
00:46:03
Speaker
Let's score four touchdowns, pack it up, and go home kind of game. and Like you said, it's in Jacksonville. It's the noon kick or noon kickoff for Central Time. Expect the Packers to be wearing green. Jaguars love to do that to their opponents. They like to wear their home they like to wear their whites at home. Make the opponent wear their their home color so that it's a darker jersey in the full sunlight. So hydration is going to be key.
00:46:32
Speaker
and Yep football Yeah, just clean football. That's the biggest one is As much as I've said Lawrence has a tendency to turn the ball over he only has three interceptions so far this season but he has had the tendency to throw them in bunches in the past and for for love got to take care of the football this week. Start or end the trend or end the streak of game consecutive games with an interception this week. Take care of the football. Let's get this road win. But that's really all I got for the game. How about you, Joe? Anything else sticks out to you this week? Not really. Just I think we can jump into our next two segments because we're kind of running along on this because of the mystery mask and all that stuff. So
00:47:22
Speaker
Take it away Joe Like I was just telling Mike I was having a laugh fest earlier at work and my chest is hurting so So again, I didn't write any of these down so they're coming off the top of my head But it should be fairly easy. I am gonna go over under one and a half Interceptions for this Packers defense I'm going to go over. I think, like I said, the combination of the pressure they should be able to get on this O-line and Lawrence's tendency to put the ball up. I think they're going to have an opportunity to get potentially three or four this week, I think. My number was going to be three because I think Jair is going to have one. I think Xavier is going to have one. And I think Evan Williams is going to have one.
00:48:08
Speaker
ah ah So yeah, I'm taking the over on that, uh, over under two 25 and a half for love and passing yards. I'm going to say over just because of how vulnerable this, this Jaguar's defense is to the pass.
00:48:23
Speaker
I want to take the over, but I just have this frigging feeling that the floor is going to shove the running game down the throats. So I'm going to take the over, but I also would not be surprised if we're sitting at Jordan Love for with like two 20, but Jacobs has got like 120 and Wilson has 75 and.
00:48:47
Speaker
Brooks has another 50 on top of that so that wouldn't surprise me much. oh
00:48:55
Speaker
We'll go with this final one and then we'll get into my quick segment and then we'll call her good. We'll go two and a half sacks for the Packers defense. I'd say over.
00:49:06
Speaker
I want to be different from you. So I'm going to say under, but I'm going to say that there's going to be a shit ton of pressure. Yeah. ah yeah Like I said, to get to three interceptions, that means you can't get sex on those plays. So yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's what I'm going to go with. So I'm going to go ahead and jump into my segment real quick. Uh, so the first one I'm going to do comes from, uh, Jacob Morley.
00:49:34
Speaker
And I'm kind of hot and cold about Jacob Morley. Anyway, I don't know how you're feeling. I know he's a friend of Brenda show Jacob Westendorf and guys like that, but I'm kind of hot and cold on him anyway. Uh, but the tweet is, uh, or he was replying to Wendell Ferreira and Wendell said Lucas van Ness has had only four pressures of the entire season.
00:50:04
Speaker
and Morley replied, the worried meter has been activated for Lucas van Ness. And it seems like I've had to do this week in and week out. And I've already went off on it earlier in the episode, but he is a second year player. He's on a second defensive coordinator. We all knew he was going to be a little bit of a project when he got drafted. And while the Numbers haven't been there. He has still been consistently in the backfield.
00:50:38
Speaker
it I don't know what more you want. for I know you see guys like Will McDonald and, and that, and here's the big thing. Everybody wanted Will McDonald. Everybody wanted Will McDonald. It didn't happen. They took Lucas Van Ness.
00:50:56
Speaker
Will McDonald also has more snaps played. He's playing on a defense that's relying on him more. Whereas Lucas is rotating in and out with a group of, edge rushers. So he's not getting the constant playing time. And I know this is going to sound biased because I'm the Hawkeye fan and Lucas was is a Hawkeye, but anybody with a frigging brain can see this.
00:51:23
Speaker
Yes, the numbers aren't there, but he's still consistently getting pushes. He's still consistently around the ball. Give him a chance. What is it? We always say, Mike, I feel like a broken record with this. The first year you're learning to play all over again. The second year is when you kind of start making your mistakes. And the third year is when you put it all together. We're seven games into his second season.
00:51:52
Speaker
Relax give it time So basically Morley and everybody else that's saying the same shit shut the fuck up Yeah, and like you said, it's not just Morley and Morley's honestly was one of the more tame ones, but oh and first off that the one that that that that's that step that Ferrer is quoting is kind of like I don't understand how I know it's not a good number but four it just seems so low because he always seems like he's in the backfield yeah and it it's one of those where it makes you like question okay what what are we determining a quote unquote pressure to be because he's flushed the quarterback from the pocket numerous times he's got the one sack
00:52:43
Speaker
He's got a few other QB hits that, you know, and a couple that didn't count because you he had that one really weak roughing the passer call or whatever, that one game and stuff. And so, no, like, it's the, you know, it's it's sort of the the it's sort of the Creed Humphrey, Josh Meyers thing to a you know to a to a certain extent. It's sort of that where like, especially because McDonald is,
00:53:12
Speaker
got the, sta you he's got the sexy stats, he's got the hot, you know, like you said, but he's also being relied on. You know, Lucas, and to add on to what you said about you're learning the ropes, he is relearning the ropes because it's a different system. And We've seen, the the one part I do wonder is we've seen Roshan's role, you know, they unleashed a wrinkle that, you know, half we started to use Roshan as an interior, a stand-up interior rusher. Now does Lucas get to be an interior rusher as well on certain steps from a down lineman position as opposed to, you know, Roshan being from a stand-up position.
00:53:56
Speaker
I'm, yeah, I'm with you. You've got to be more patient with it. This was always going to be the long term. The only consternation and consternation is a hard word for me to even use. The only question I had.
00:54:12
Speaker
The only question I like, C-O-N-S-T-E-R-N-A-T-I-O-N, I consider they shit. yeah The only hesitation I had with the Lucas pic was, I really liked Christian Gonzalez. And in a similar draft in 2018, I wanted the pass rusher in Harold Landry and Goot went and took the corner in Jair. And in my head, I was like, this is 2018 all over again. There's these pass rushers that I like, but there's this corner that Goot Should really like and I thought group must be looking at this like 2018 except he didn't have to make a trade in this scenario kind of thing But it goes to show you he did is not that lucas was the one that they got from the itton the rogers oh But it just goes to show that
00:55:07
Speaker
how much Goot thinks of Lucas. He views him, I think, in the same vein as Rashawn. I don't think they're the same player. Very similar in terms of their build, athleticism, play style. like But it's it's a three, like you said, it's a three-year plan. They're playing, their they took the home run swing. They swung from their asses, as David Ortiz would say, that they're gonna get another tough, light, just alien athlete body of a donus past Russia. You've seen the flag at this point or at the end of last season, what was everyone saying about Lucas? Oh, he had as many sacks and Roshan did it in his second season at the end of his first season. I thought Lucas was turning a corner at the end of last season, especially as Roshan hit the wall in terms of like his, you know, hit the wall coming back from his torn ACL the year before.
00:56:03
Speaker
It takes time. Rashawn is just figuring out his standing and how to best i how to best impact the game for in this defense. Kenny just figured out. Rashawn's in his fifth season. Kenny's in his ninth season already or whatever it is.
00:56:21
Speaker
It's gonna or six season for ra it's go to take time for Lucas. It always was going to. No reason to panic or rush it at this point. What I love for him to do more, of course I would. We want all of our players to be just machines and stuff, but that's the thing is.
00:56:40
Speaker
this defense has 20 sacks the leading sack man is pressed in with two and a half that means there's a shit ton of guys with two and a half two one one and a half sacks so it's not like one guy's got all the sacks. Yes, you want pressure numbers and all that kind of stuff. The one I just want Lucas to do is just tackle better because that was the one that I was more disappointed in in last week. because And it's just weird because he was a guy that in college was like, if you saw him get to the ball carrier, that guy did not get away kind of thing.
00:57:17
Speaker
And so that's the part. And like you said, it's incremental. Just do this little thing better. Just do this little thing. He's going to get there. He's like Roshan where he's so physically gifted and he has the motor and the drive to be great. He's going to get there. It's just going to take time. Right. And to be fair, yeah.
00:57:39
Speaker
Lucas played in a 4-3 in Iowa, but he did play more interior than he did on the edge at Iowa.
Jaguars' Offensive Line Analysis
00:57:48
Speaker
onpa babies especially yeah Right, so maybe it would be a better situation to put him inside than out, but it is what it is.
00:57:56
Speaker
so Uh, the next one I got is from, uh, so the account that this person is replying to his ML football and ML football is, uh, talking about the Tucker craft catch, uh, touchdown catch and says, Jordan love precision is sick. This throw is perfect. Most accurate QB in the NFL. Well, Mr. Kalin Bullock decided to respond to it.
00:58:28
Speaker
and said, perfect question mark, the ball went through my hands, laughing emoji. What I got to say to you, Mr. Kalin Bullock, if that's how I'm, if that's how you pronounce your name, I don't care. But what I got to say to you is, yeah, it went through your hands. But why did it go through your hands?
00:58:50
Speaker
because it was a perfectly precision ass that snuck through your hands to the person that was meant to go to who was behind you. So, yeah, had you made a better, if you would have closed your hand quicker, you probably could have had another interception in the game, whatever, but you didn't. Jordan Love was able to place that ball in the right spot that you couldn't make the play, but his man could.
00:59:19
Speaker
So yes, perfect pass, perfect precision. It doesn't matter if it went through your hands or not. It's it was the perfect throw. Do we want to see throws like that? Yeah, they're fun to watch, but it kills you inside because you know it can be intercepted at any time. But he made you look foolish because you couldn't catch the damn ball, but Tucker did.
00:59:44
Speaker
So, Kalen Bullock, shut the fuck up. Yeah, that was funny. I was just laughing at it because it's not often that you see the player involved in the play respond to it and stuff, but okay.
00:59:58
Speaker
For what the play did, it was perfect. There was the perfect velocity on the ball, perfect height, perfect placement, that it was high enough and hard enough of a throw that Bullock was never gonna get there in time.
01:00:10
Speaker
If we're gonna pick knits and all that kind of shit, if Love throws it more up the seam, Tucker probably catches that standing up and it's you know it's a touchdown, but it's not as exotic as it is when he's throwing it through a guy and stuff. But it is just hilarious that it's like, and the stage is different but this is what Ryan Clark this is why Ryan Clark to this day cannot stand air it's not the off-field shit it's not any of that stuff Ryan in his heart of heart believes that he should have had two interceptions in the Super Bowl when it was the Steelers against us and he and he and he always loves Rogers because he's like but that goddamn number 12 he put it an inch too high or an inch too far for me to get to it or and then the one is the one that he did tip is the touchdown to Jennings where he does tip it actually but Rogers throws such a perfect spiral that it Barely dislodges it out of its spiral rotation This is kind of the same thing except like I said, it's not the Super Bowl but yeah It's just funny because it's like you can say whatever you want But it's still a touchdown and y'all still lost the game at the end of the day
01:01:29
Speaker
And it was still the perfect pass because you put it right where he needed to put it. Yeah. So my last one here is to a former player. And I kind of alluded to this a little bit earlier about, uh, the whole touchdowns interceptions kind of thing that we're dealing with Jordan. This is from, uh, Kurt Benkert.
01:01:55
Speaker
Quote, why do people on this app act like interceptions are as bad as touchdowns are good? Interceptions don't directly lead to points. Touchdowns are points. Touchdowns in the red zone are worth more than two field goal trips in the red zone. Touchdowns in the red zone win you games. Fair. You know, touchdowns are great. But when are we starting to act like interceptions are no problem? Interceptions are drive killers. Interceptions can end games.
01:02:25
Speaker
interceptions aren't a great stat. Now, yes, it's up to your defense to come back out and and make a stop so the other team doesn't score points or whatever. But here's the thing. Let's say you're the defense. You just went out and raised hell and got a foreign out.
01:02:51
Speaker
Well, you've used up so much energy, you're zapped. Now your quarterback comes out and on the first play throws an interception. What's that mean for you as a defensive player? Now, after zapping your energy, you don't even get a breath. You have to go right back out on the field and make another stop. So while yes, I'm not overly concerned with the Jordan love stuff as of yet.
01:03:19
Speaker
Because even though his projections don't look good going forward, like we said last time on on last episode, you know, projecting, he's projected to get 27 interceptions by the end of the season. That doesn't look great. But we know most likely he's not going to hit 27 interceptions. It's going to be a lot less. Why?
01:03:44
Speaker
There is nothing more that you can do to piss off your defensive players and your defensive coordinator. Then continuously going out there and throwing interceptions. And interceptions should be something you know a lot about Mr. Kurt Benkert, because you know, there's a reason why you're not on an NFL team right now. You know, I get you. I never made it even to college ball and you made it all the way in NFL. And I have a lot of respect for that.
01:04:14
Speaker
But you also have to realize that people are making a big deal about interceptions because it's a bad stat for a reason. It's a bad moment for a reason. How many games have been lost because that quarterback has tried to force something and the interception happened? How many has Jordan Love alone cost the Packers because he's thrown a last minute interception. The season ended last year on an interception. Yeah. Right. And how many games last year did Oakland or or I guess it's not Oakland. It's it's Las Vegas, San Francisco.
01:05:00
Speaker
there's a couple more I'm forgetting off the top of my head. Help me out, Mike. What are other two were the ones that, let's see, Detroit kind of like, it wasn't the last play of the game, but you know, interceptions here and there doomed them.
01:05:16
Speaker
Oh, the Giants, like like I said, see the Giants wasn't on the last play of the game, but interceptions were a problem that game. i Yeah, so you know that the the Vegas game, the 49ers playoff game, those are examples of where an interception, like it flat out ended the game for the Packers. But also in the course of the game, interceptions go. And to the point you were making about, OK, the scenario this past week was ah ah you know the first Drive 1, OK,
01:05:44
Speaker
you know Not good, but the defense held him to a field goal. But his second interception, what happened? The defense gets off the field after a nine-play drive. They're playing already on a short field because special teams gave up a 40-yard kick return. They give up a nine-play, 23-yard drive. Give up a long field goal. Okay, no harm. You know, some harm, but not really on their back. They're still in the lead. Jordan goes out, first play throws an interception.
01:06:14
Speaker
Like you said, you just dug the special teams out of a bad return, 40 yard return. You held Houston's offense down, limited the damage. And then now you got to come back after being out there for like eight minutes a game time, nine play, or not eight minute, but like four minutes a game time, nine plays. And it's like, oh shit, what? Like we didn't even get to, we didn't even get to drink Gatorade on the sideline kind of thing. Like yeah there's guys who are probably like,
01:06:44
Speaker
you know, it's that situation where they're like, just sitting on the chairs to talk to their coach and someone goes turnover and they're like, huh? So yeah yeah, it's not good. it, it's not anything to be minimized, minimalized. And the stupid thing that the part that deserves the shut the fuck up from banker is he worships at the altar of the guy who was allergic to throwing interceptions, except till now, because he's old and can't move very well.
01:07:14
Speaker
But he would never have said these words in the presence of his demigod because he knows that Aaron would have given him stink eye and stink-eyed his ass into oblivion so Kurt Benkert for the 40 gazillionth time this season shut the fuck up Exactly and like I said, you know, I understand it he
01:07:38
Speaker
I don't want to sound too much like a prick with this, but yes, he made it to the league.
Podcast Conclusion and Updates
01:07:43
Speaker
Yes. He had his cup of tea in the league, but there's a reason why you're not on teams right now. You know, you're not as great as you want to pass yourself off as at the moment. Now that's great. You're, you're trying to get into the media side of things. You're trying to get into the content creator side of things, whatever.
01:08:07
Speaker
But stuff like this is going to put you on the wrong side of content creators. This is going to make you more of the Pat McAfee and the Colin Cowards and the Skip Baylises, the ones that people don't like and don't want to listen to.
01:08:29
Speaker
Because you're acting like it's nothing. Well, it is something. And even Jordan has said, yeah, I know, I got to clean things up, but I'm not going to change the way I play. So, yes, Kurt, Ben, Kurt, shut the fuck up. And we probably should wrap it up pretty quick because it sounds like Mike's wife's trying to throw stuff at him.
01:08:51
Speaker
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Speaker
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01:10:14
Speaker
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