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OPE Season 3 Episode 13 Vikings Conquer Lambeau
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Aloha and Welcome to another episode of OPE! On this episode we try to put a positive spin on a bad day. We look at the little good, the lot of bad and even the ugly. We also talk about the new fundraiser we will be doing!
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Game Overview
00:00:31
Speaker
Aloha and welcome back to another episode of the Ojada Packers Edition podcast. The podcast where two dudes from halfway around the world are very disappointed, disjointed, and disillusioned by what we saw in today's game.
Early Game Struggles
00:00:43
Speaker
Okay, maybe maybe not quite those last two, but disappointed.
00:00:48
Speaker
Also kind of asking, what the fuck happened today? But button Joe, I mean, that first quarter, I was just laughing at the end of it because I was like, it's really just going to be one of those games today. And the floor kind of said it in his postgame. They just took too long to pull out of the nosedive. But is that a pretty succinct summary of what the game entailed for you today? Now's when I wish he would have played last week.
00:01:16
Speaker
to because you can tell that there was a ton of rust there and not just rust but also like you figuring out like what does it feel like to throw on this thing in a game kind of thing yeah yeah right and i was oh no go for it on the post game i was trying to remember on the post game i was trying to remember it was trent green and harlan was it harlan yep Yeah, they were even talking about it where he just did not look comfortable planning that front leg to throw and the ball was was just tailing off.
Receiver Mistakes and Missed Opportunities
00:01:51
Speaker
And you could see it, but it also didn't help that his receivers weren't catching anything. I know. they I mean, they would hit him right in the hands. It would hit him right in the chest. And it it just. They were dropping it and.
00:02:08
Speaker
I was kind of went off on this and the post game that I did for somebody who was supposed to be our sure handed receiver and was supposed to be this, uh, you know, our secret weapon, the reason why we didn't use them in pre-season very much. Don Tavian Wicks really had a rough game today because most of them were drops by him.
00:02:32
Speaker
Yeah, it wasn't a great day at the office for Wix, like that first like two and a half to three quarters of this game. That stuff, he's going to just beat himself over a lot of those coming up. Obviously, a couple of those, like I thought he got robbed on the play that LaFleur challenged because his hand was under the ball. like I don't give a shit what happens after that. His hand was under it. The one coming out of halftime, you just need him to hold on to that
Quarterback and Receiver Performance
00:02:58
Speaker
one. but some of the and And so those two, I kind of throw out because I'm like, the like I said, the first one, it should have been a catch. The second one,
00:03:07
Speaker
unfortunate but you want him to make that the others like the the first drive he drops the third down conversion in the red zone probably walks in for a touchdown at least puts the ball inside the five yard line has the has the fourth downplay later in the game that's a touchdown yeah i thought he got pied yeah my tweet at the time was stoked did less than that and got face masked and got a dpi called on him then what What was that? Shaq Griffin did two wicks. But another one, it's it's right there. You got to catch it. And then he had the one that was the dig on third down, dropped that one. And you know someone kind of mentioned it like, no, love wasn't perfect. Love wasn't making things easy for his guy. It's kind of what happened on Watson injury is that he threw
00:04:00
Speaker
I think that's one where, like you brought up, Joe, where the footwork, the inability to you know transfer his weight and lean into throws, couldn't put as much velocity on that throw to Watson, so the ball lagged getting there. But for a group of receivers that caught pretty much everything that came their way, and I know there were only like 33 passes past two games, but for a receiving group that caught pretty much everything that was catchable last couple weeks, they let some I don't want to say easy ones, but they let some pretty standard NFL catches slip through their fingers today. And we saw Dobbs beating himself up after that tick double tit drill interception. And Wix just had the day from hell today. But i I go back to what we were kind of saying in our postgame last week, where most of this shit is correctable. It's frustrating as hell to see a game get blown like it did today. but
00:04:57
Speaker
I do think the Packers are more the team that came back and scored 22 in a row, made it a two point game in the end after that crap 28 nothing start or 28 point hole, but just can't keep shooting yourself in the foot like
Defensive Critique and Missed Stops
00:05:11
Speaker
that. Like it it all, all the stuff from the first three games that were kind of like, they've got to get through it. They got it through it. It came to a head today and it put them in a 28 point hole today. Well, just going by the stats right now.
00:05:24
Speaker
Jaden Reid was targeted eight times, had seven receptions. Dontavian Wicks was targeted 13 times, had five receptions. Tucker Kraft was targeted nine times, had six receptions. Dobbs was targeted eight times, had four receptions. Melton targeted three, one reception. And, you know, the rest of the ones did pretty good. Jacobs was targeted six, caught four. Musgraves targeted three, caught three. Funny how Musgrave He he's three for three. So yeah, he wasn't getting thrown to on that second interception. Like that's what some people were kind of saying is like the spacing on that play. It did look weird. But yeah, it's funny that ESPN's that and a couple other ones that I looked at, they don't credit that throw as targeting him. And then you got Heath two for two and then Watson and Wilson zero for one. So that just goes to show that
00:06:19
Speaker
Yeah. Well, Jordan wasn't throwing his best. These guys also didn't help him out any. Yeah. And, and we'll get to it in a little later, but the defense didn't help out any either. Yeah. yeah When they finally started driving back and and I mentioned this on the live stream, I did when the offense started fighting back and they ended up making it where it was only like, what was it? 28 to Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All the defense had to do is go out and get a stop, which they had been doing. They had been stopping them. Do you know they had been stopping them because the offense had been coming back on it. They needed to get to stop to get the ball back and they didn't and allowed, I believe it was another field goal. So it,
00:07:12
Speaker
There was a whole lot of things. I have to give Halfly credit. He did do a lot of adjusting. Again, we'll talk about this later. yeah um The floor.
00:07:24
Speaker
Lafour did what he could. Yeah, it's hard it's really hard to say because that first drive
Interceptions and Officiating Issues
00:07:30
Speaker
was looking great. like they you know Minnesota went down, scored their touchdown. Packers went right down the field too. like It seemed like they were getting love you know they were getting him time. They were doing a lot of the misdirection stuff.
00:07:45
Speaker
once that first interception goes and you go down 21 nothing your game plan kind of goes in the shitter at that point and like it's or sorry you go down 14 nothing Oh, no, no, no, you go down 20 because you were down 14 nothing. Then you go down 21 nothing. And like, there were so many points in the first quarter, the first half where it's like, you just got to stop the bleeding. You got to get something. You got to get something on the board as the packer for the Packers. Miss kick interceptions off of like one bad throw in the first half. One was.
00:08:20
Speaker
You know, you could argue as a bad throw or a bad row or whatever. Dobbs will say it's all his fault. I know he's I don't know. I didn't see if he got asked about it, but you could just tell on the sideline. He was so upset with himself on that one. But like I said, my attitude coming out of the first quarter, even out of the first half, like how the Packers got their touchdown.
00:08:39
Speaker
was the microcosm of this game it's we'll go into it for Dan Whelan later because he's like one of like four people who showed up for the whole game but it's a it's a punt that Naylor never should have tried to recover or to to field that turns into a muff that Melton thank god he runs a 4-3 so he got down there and and then LeFlore And credit Jean Steratore for like correcting himself because he's just going off of like what he's he's like, oh, like he can't go on the field there. And then when they showed the down the sideline angle where LeFoure is clearly calling for time out and Steratore is like, oh yeah, you can't flag him for that. like you You totally blew it. Like, Starator, it is nice the words he can like kind of get after his like his fellow former fellow refs. He's like, oh yeah, you screwed up. You can't you can't compound it by calling him for a fellow. And thank God, Love and Reed converted anyway after that, because that would have been such a kick in the nuts to like get a flag that LaFleur shouldn't have gotten and stuff. But I'm with you. I was finally being like... I have to say, you're...
00:09:45
Speaker
Your ears must have been burning. Cause I said that in the post came, I was like, this is where, uh, Mike was kind of talking about the other week with, uh, Moose Johnston and that talking, you know, where they were saying that, Oh, well there was a penalty and then they wouldn't show the replay and they wouldn't, they wouldn't talk about it any further because they knew it was all screwed up and everything like that.
00:10:09
Speaker
That was one of those calls. And all you got edited yeah all you got out of Harlan, and mostly Trent Green was, Green's like, you you're LaFleur, you have a right to be upset, but you've got to understand the situation. You're lucky you didn't get burned. You can't cost your team 15 yards and stuff. But you but Harlan's like, he has a right to be upset. got yeah But even Trent Green shot up when they showed the replay because he was just going off of that that second show where LaFleur was out in the middle of the field yelling at the ref.
00:10:39
Speaker
Then they showed the the replay of him trying to run down the ref to call timeout. And that's where Sterator shut up, Green shut up, Arlen shut up, because they knew it was screwed up. And like I said, I thank Sterator for going a step further and saying like, yeah, you can't you can't screw that up and compound it. Yeah. So that's where I kind of went off on the on the live stream was,
00:11:03
Speaker
it I understand we see it more as Packer fans and that's what we see, but it's a league wide thing where everybody, all these refs are, you know, the games are all about them anymore.
00:11:18
Speaker
And there should have been no reason that side judge should not have known that matt laflor is running at him I don't care matt laflor is not a small guy. He's not a big guy He's not a big guy, but he's definitely not a small guy And if you see out of your peripheral somebody running at you yelling and screaming You're and intentionally ignoring it Yeah, like it's and and like I saw some people trying to say like, oh, he was yelling at them to like get them to review it and blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, no, his whole point is he wants time out so that they will review it
Quarterback Love's Performance
00:11:54
Speaker
kind of thing. Yeah. And so like it just. so Yeah, I was like, it's inexcusable and kind of going on. The clock was running. He wanted the tide out. He wanted the time out anyway, because there was what was it it was only like 30 seconds and the clock was running.
00:12:09
Speaker
I think it was under 20 actually at that point or something. So yeah, no, it would have been under 20 because if they would have not burned the time out for the run off. Oh, yeah. yeah, um it just what and like, like you're kind of saying about how like they're calling that they're calling certain like the Stokes DPI and stuff like that and all. And then you miss something as blatant as LaFleur trying to call a timeout. Or even, you know, Wix has got to catch that ball on the the in the in the red zone on the first drive. But clear as crystal, Zach Tom's neck is getting jacked up in the air with a handful of things. It is on the broadcast.
00:12:51
Speaker
and this This will be the last thing I say, but you have two refs in the backfield to look at shit for that reason and you both miss it. That's inexcusable, inexplicable for a league that is supposedly doing points of emphasis and all that kind of shit, but I mean,
00:13:11
Speaker
it's I saw some tweets about it like like I said I was laughing at the first half of this game because I was like this is it this is that shit hit the fan Murphy's law loss in September glad they ripped the band off and got it out of the way now kind of thing and stuff and I think things would have been a little bit different hadn't had Jair not been out Carrington been out you know half those guys and then Watson getting hurt and Again, you know, hindsight's 20, 20. I know I said I would have loved to see him. I had talking prior to the Titans game. I said, I figured Jordan was going to play, but I understand them setting him, but it really looks like they should have played him if he was ready because there was definitely rest that he needed to definitely get used to because it looked like once he got that first hit. When he first got hit, everything clicked and he was ready to go again and he started looking better, but.
00:14:08
Speaker
You know, you could tell that there was just a lot of rust there and, and it's not. Yeah. Yeah. And there, it's not ideal to have to go through that for a whole first app half when you're already down.
00:14:24
Speaker
by 21 points yeah and like i thought the old line was okay today you know zach tom had his struggles today you know that's the thing with having a not fully healthy quarterback or one who's like feeling it out and stuff is And Love said it before the game and you saw it in the week 17 game last week. His ability to buy time by sagging or moving laterally in the pocket last year was a big part of their success against the Vikings where you know he was able to buy an extra second because he could roll out or just kind of throw on the move. And you can tell because that you know he didn't have full confidence in that knee.
00:15:03
Speaker
He wasn't, you know, he wanted to stay on the spot as long as he could and stuff and he kind of got himself into a little bit of trouble with the rush because of it. And all those things kind of combined to just give you the outcome you get today.
00:15:17
Speaker
you know and to be fair he was only sacked one time yeah so and unfortunately that one sack was a big one because it pushed them out of like goal 48 range in the red zone still had a decent day on the ground but when you're down by four touchdowns you just can't run the ball that much in the half and all um knew it wasn't going to be a very good run because a run game because That was Minnesota's bread and butter was they were, they, they've been one of the best run stopping teams so far this year. So we knew it wasn't going to be tremendous, but combined, they still went over a hundred yards.
00:15:57
Speaker
Yeah, so, or they had 86, but it was on a pretty robust four and a half yards per carry. So you can live with that, you know, unfortunate because the game plan, like I said, it just gets, you know, you just shit can it after you go down 21 nothing in the first quarter. So, or at the very beginning of the second quarter, but honestly, this is one of those. I want to say one more thing about the rules with the refs in that. Yeah. Muff punts should be,
00:16:27
Speaker
Returnable. I don't like this whole, you know, uh, a muff punt can't be, uh, um, what's the word for it? My return recovered in return. Yeah. Advanced. No, they, they use this advanced. That's it. Advanced.
00:16:43
Speaker
That's so freaking dumb. Yeah, I've never understood the reasoning for that one.
Turnovers and Special Teams Impact
00:16:48
Speaker
I've heard different things. But it just doesn't make sense where every other instance that there's a live ball, you scoop and score kind of thing. But for whatever reason, there's sanctity on punts. I've never understood the reasoning for that. And I don't know if anyone in the rules committee really knows the the big the genesis of that.
00:17:10
Speaker
that that that rule, line, whatever you want to call it. But yeah, it's, it's a dumb one. But yeah, because that was an automatic touchdown. There was no doubt about it. The ball ended up on the three yard line anyway, you might as well. And it's not like it was, it would have gave the Packers the lead or anything. Yeah.
00:17:36
Speaker
Like, if the Packers hadn't scored, I guarantee you certain people would have said, oh, that's bad on Melton. He should have let it roll a little farther. God dang it, stupid shit like that. So, uh, like, can't win. But you know what? Like I said, go down Melton for being alert. And like I said, we'll get to Whelan later because that was a fucking bomb. But- Well, there's another one that made it down there too. Who was the other one that made it down there with Melton?
00:18:03
Speaker
It might have been Ballantine, honestly. I forget who the other Gunner is, but yeah, I want to say it's like, it might be Ballantine with him or something. Because they were both in perfect position for it. Yeah. Yeah. Now, the Gunners have been pretty solid this season. they They've had good good coverage on the special teams, but we'll get to that later. But like I said, you know, loves the love the first interception, not a great play, but like I said,
00:18:31
Speaker
I can't tell how much of that is. The ball is a split second late because he can't really gun that in there like he's used to. The second one, just really unfortunate, you know whether it's the spacing. you know like I forget who it was. Someone tweeted that that interception happened because Musgrave is fucking massive. like If Musgrave is six foot four, that play doesn't happen. But because he's six six with long arms, it's like, oh shit, like I gotta go get that thing.
00:19:00
Speaker
and if if he's any shorter it's like oh that if it's Tucker oh that that ball's not for me kind of thing like that you know like he just looks at it he's like oh like that's not for me like let it go kind of thing But then the third one is the only one that you're like, I know that it was a past protection bust, you turn around and you see Harrison Smith right there. You either got to just eat that thing or you got to dirt it somewhere else you cannot far of arm punted from the 2003 divisional game like that. That was the worst one and I did see some people kind of say like Wix has got to be running harder and stuff but
00:19:35
Speaker
Like, okay, this is gonna sound like- You're talking about the one that was in the end zone? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is gonna sound really weird for some people. Like, from Wick's point of view, he's running a clear out route, so he's quote-unquote done his job by occupying some deep zone defender.
00:19:53
Speaker
And so he's, and you're not on that route. You expect, you don't expect the ball 99 out of a hundred times. It's got to be like the most perfect conditions to get the
Receiver Routes and Execution
00:20:03
Speaker
ball. And by the time Wix understands what's happened, it's just too late. And he honestly he got closer to that than I thought he would. And it's just one of those how like, ever, how ever, even Trent green pointed this out. He saw Harrison Smith.
00:20:22
Speaker
sneaking up off the edge on that one. So I'm not going to put everything on Wix. It's a combination of both Wix and love and all that. Yeah. I still put it. this the Yeah. Smith sneaking up on there and knew that the ball was going to have to come out.
00:20:39
Speaker
it's a weird one because so like that getting that gets into hot routes and stuff and I don't know because everyone does it a little differently so I don't know if Green Bay's rule is like if you see the guy coming off near you look for the ball or if because he's got a clear out route or if he's thinking I just got to clear my guy out and someone is coming under like that's the route concept is someone is underneath me so it's just unfortunate but I put that At least 75% on love. You just can't eat the sack there. Like just, just see, I, I kind of agree with green though about it. Because if with the route that Wix was running, it was just a straight route. There was, you know, there was no cutbacks. It wasn't a cut in, it wasn't the cut out of, you know, it was just a straight route. So.
00:21:37
Speaker
The other guys, I couldn't tell what the other receivers were running on their routes, but knowing you're the guy that is just having the simple route. And you see the, the, uh, safety coming off the edge. I would think you would want to be prepared for it just in case love can't get to somebody else. Yeah. Because you're going to be the number one route because you're, you've got the simple route, not the wide receiver are, so you know, their simple route.
00:22:07
Speaker
You don't have as much gimmicky stuff to it is what I mean by simple route. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, it's just unfortunate, but it's one of those plays where you just know your date office. Same with the Tucker craft fumble. Like I can't get mad at him. He tried to tuck that thing down. You're trying to get every yard you can at that part of the game. He puts two hands on it and Byron Murphy perfectly punches the ball out like right. But he could have had it down a little bit more. He had it in the perfect spot for somebody to punch it out. Yeah, we've seen it so many times with Peanut Tillman and Charles Woodson that if you don't have it down and against your body,
00:22:52
Speaker
That thing's coming out if somebody hits it just right. Also, my little bit of refereeing thing is that's all fine and good if you actually get the ball out. But when you see these guys winding up full on what is only a like physical punch, if you miss, that should be a flag.
00:23:07
Speaker
what yeah No shit. Like, it's one of those where I'm like, oh, we're just going full rumble roses here. And like, you're just letting guys tee off kind of thing. And like, I'm like half more than half the time. They're nowhere near the ball. You're just throwing sucker punches into the pile kind of thing. And I'm like, that's all fine when you actually create a fumble. But if you miss, that should be some kind of personal foul. Like, you can't just let people start chucking throwing fists into the pile like that because And I do think it's one of the stupidest things you can do because you're just asking to get that caught in someone's face mask and break your hand. But to each their own, it works for the Vikings here. And like I said, it was just the nail on top of the nail in the coffin at that point.
Coaching Decisions and Key Player Health
00:23:55
Speaker
Brightside, you know, like you said, love kind of seemed to figure it out as the game went on. LeFlore did really stick this thing together with duct tape and Bondo and yeah got this team to fight. And I was joking about it with a couple of people on Twitter that his his unsportsmanlike conduct is the equivalent of when a coach in the NBA gets a tech called on them when their team is getting their ass kicked. And it's like, it's the like, okay, guys, like, I'm fighting. So I need you guys to fight. We're gonna, we're gonna fight and we're gonna make this competitive. It kind of did work out that way. So, you know, I can't get on the floor because he definitely had things that were out of his, out of his control go against him. And
00:24:42
Speaker
The last thing I'll say is I do think it's a good bit of news that Watson was deemed out with an ankle and not the knee because I thought his knee turned to dust on that play and the fact that they ruled him out with an ankle granted it's probably a high ankle sprain but They just just put him on IR, let him rest the four weeks, get him right. But just thank God he hope you know we'll see with the MRI and stuff. But I'm glad that they you know said it's his ankle, not his knee kind of thing. Because that looked horrible. And the more plus side of it, I know there's this silver lining to it. Whatever he's done for his hamstrings,
00:25:18
Speaker
has kept his knee intact. Yeah. It may have hurt his ankle, but it's kept his knee intact. No, definitely. Because that was the same way. Yeah, definitely. All that soft tissue strengthening, it probably increased his knee stability and stuff. So yeah. But like I said, there's going to be a lot of watch this film once, burn it after kind of thing. So onto the defense and. Not necessarily. I think there's a lot of things that they can work on with yeah because it it is teachable moments.
00:25:48
Speaker
You know, like I said, with the Wix one, okay, Dante, and you need to be a little bit more mindful of the safety coming off the edge. Okay, guys, you got to realize, you know, bat the ball down. Don't tip it up in the air for the easy pick. Be mindful of your spots because the one, the one that you were talking about where LeFlore got the, got the penalty, you know, had he been more mindful of being inside the end zone when he caught it.
00:26:17
Speaker
We wouldn't have been in that situation anyway, not saying it's his fault. It just, you gotta, yeah, that's, that's the basics that they always tell you when you start playing games, yeah be mindful of your surroundings. You know, that's why we always laugh at the old video of Orlovski running out of the back of the end zone.
00:26:36
Speaker
and stuff like that because you have to be mindful of your, where you are on the field. yeah So that kind of thing, I don't think this isn't necessarily a burn it after watching it. I think this can go on and be a teachable moment.
Defensive Performance and Adjustments
00:26:50
Speaker
And, and some of it can be on the defensive side, which we're probably getting into right now. And, you know, I, I,
00:27:00
Speaker
For as shitty as the first half was, I can't completely say this was a horrible game. It was good to see them fight back. They fought back. Everyone fought back. Like, we've we've seen games like this where they lose 42-6 or something like that, so right it was good to see them pull with it and stuff. And on the defensive side, yeah.
00:27:19
Speaker
like I saw people, you know, there's a lot of people are like, the honeymoon period is over. What, you know, is that Joe Halfley or Jeff Halfley or Joe Barry, blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, okay, like, you got to understand what he's working with here is.
00:27:35
Speaker
he has He's without his first and second cornerback. The first couple drives, he's seeing everyone else in his second in the cornerback room just getting lit the fuck up in every which way. Stokes probably played the best out of him and he still got called for that unfortunate DPI, which, like I said, was bullshit because on replay, Justin Jefferson clearly has his face mask in his hand and that's why Stokes is like...
00:28:03
Speaker
Wasn't there one, was it that DPI or was it one of the other ones that got called, where he got called for DPI because Jefferson pushed off of him? I think it's like we' like a flat they i think it was all the same play kind of thing because like, they're like, he, so from my point of view, and like, this is someone who played receiver, Jefferson runs into his chest, like, and yeah that, that is so extended.
00:28:31
Speaker
and they're fighting each other at the collision point and what you're getting into is what i was saying first is that like Stokes grabs because Jefferson's pulling his face mask so Stokes and if you watch the replay what makes it really stupid is Stokes is looking for the ball which and that's why Stokes looks so pissed off after the play he's like one the guy's grabbing my face mask and two he's like i'm looking for the ball and And on top of it, Jefferson kind of pushes away and still doesn't, you know, the, and the ball's not really catchable at that point, but it was just a whole cavalcade of like, okay, like, you know, on so many levels and, you know, Trent Green saying like, oh, the Jersey tug and blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, okay, like you got to talk about why there's a Jersey tug, like.
00:29:17
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I go, his arms are clearly extended. And I know by rule, if the arms are clearly extended, that's called a push off. Yeah. So the only reason why Stokes is getting flagged for p or the only reason he's causing a PI is because of the push off. They're clearly fighting and not, you know, not fight, but they're fighting for position. And he clearly pushes off of him causing the PI.
00:29:46
Speaker
So yeah, that was, but I have to say Eric Stokes looked really good today. I think there was only a couple of times, and not including the PI called. Cause like I said, and like we were just talking about it. I think that was bullshit, but I think there was a couple of times when they went into zone.
00:30:06
Speaker
they kind of got chinese yeah Yeah. And I don't even think, you know, it's, it's hard to say like, is it really him getting beat or is it like Minnesota attacked the seams between the zones and stuff like that. And I think he was looking for the safety and the safety had switched because I don't think he was covering Jefferson at that point. So I think he was looking at the safety and the safety had gone over to double team Jefferson. So I, I think out of all of them, Stokes played great today.
00:30:36
Speaker
Uh, Kishan struggled a little, a little bit. I mean, he had that great, uh, rush off the edge for the strip sack, but say, and then I'm one of my, I'm.
00:30:51
Speaker
four for four on interception calls for Mickey. I was saving that one for later for the best part of the day for the defense but um I know like and it was funny because and like the stuff that Sterator Green and Harlan were saying about McKinney's interception Based on the two challenges of the Dobbs and Wicks catch non-catches against what the McKinney play looked like, they weren't wrong for saying what they said where they're like, oh, I don't know if that's going to stand up because you compare that play to those other two plays. You're kind of like, oh, like, what's it?
00:31:26
Speaker
and but florida not or That was an incredible play, but that was, you put that in another, that was a great read, break on the ball by Xavier because he created that play. That was not a over, under throw, whatever. Like as much as I beg on Darnold for not being great, like he held him and he still made it over to to like Jones thought all Aaron Jones thought he had to do was catch it get his feet down and fall over and you see it where he's like he's jumping up to catch the ball and then he's like oh shit like there's something coming in front of me I don't think and stuff but that was but are none the best play of the day otherwise I
00:32:10
Speaker
I know some people were complaining about Half Leaf or not blitzing earlier in the game and stuff, but... First off, the past rush was very disappointing today. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. this should be This should have been a good four-man rush game, and they just couldn't get shit done today. And second of all, you know you have two competing minds where it's like, you just blitz the shit out of it, and you live with your ah banged-up secondary blowing it. Or do you play the numbers game and think, like if I get guys in coverage,
00:32:41
Speaker
And Halfly played the ladder in the first half, but you got to give him credit for going to Blitzes in the second half. Like he tried it. And that's all you can ask for at this point is like, look, he knew the, he knew the deck that he had dealt to him and he tried to manipulate it. You know, he tried to turn up a pair draw into a straight flush and he couldn't.
00:33:05
Speaker
And so he's like, all right, I'm folding. I'm going to renege and stuff in the second half. And it almost worked until it didn't. And I do think on in the defensive end, the two big things are you missing your you're missing two of your best three cornerbacks, and your pass rush has just underwhelmed in games that you know you need them to come alive in. I half agree with you.
00:33:33
Speaker
And that's better than not agreeing with you. I half agree with you. While the the pass rush was disappointing, there were some bright spots to it. I thought Lucas had some pretty good rushes out there. He was getting close and it's not because and of course. And and like and of course, of course, Lucas's two best rushes turned into Darnold scrambles, which was annoying as shit because. Yeah. Yeah. And but.
00:34:02
Speaker
Here's another game, and I hate to be that guy. Rashawn disappeared. yeah Preston got a little bit in there. But even been Preston, it was really sporadic today for Preston. Yeah. Kenny started out strong, and then he just disappeared after that. TJ wasn't horrible. I know they really missed Devontae after he went out. Yeah. So...
00:34:30
Speaker
Yes, I agree that it was disappointing, but I do. I disagree that there were some moments where they were showing up now. Is that because they just were being horrible or is that because Minnesota's offensive line is getting better than what they're used to?
00:34:49
Speaker
I don't know. I'm not trying to be smart-ass with it. No, no, no. I know. Yeah. I'm more just shaking my head because I'm like, I want more data points because this is just the second game where like you're playing a pocket passer kind of thing as opposed to the first two weeks of the season. But also it's like, okay, like you guys should be, have been like foaming at the mouth to get after a quarterback. And it's like, and where is it kind of thing. And you know, one of the things that I said is like, okay,
00:35:20
Speaker
Everyone knows I'm a Michigan grad. I love Roshan. I love all the Wolverines who have played for the Packers. I love that Adam Stedovich was a Michigan Wolverine. But like, the thing with Roshan is like, yes, he is the guy out of all those guys on the defensive line that if you're like, if one guy is going to get picked out to get chip blocked or helped or whatever, it's going to be Roshan. But he's not getting helped on every play.
00:35:44
Speaker
And on the plays that he's not getting double teamed or chipped or whatever, he's got to do more. And he hasn't yet so far. And that's one of the things that I'm most disappointed in so far this season. I don't know what it is. I can't speak to it because like the the sack that wasn't against Tennessee when he got off the ball on the the play that didn't happen according to PFF in week one he looked great some of those plays against Tennessee where he helped create sacks for other guys he looked great but yeah for whatever reason it's inconsistent and like not even like 50 50 inconsistent it's just really far and few between and that can't if this if this defense is going to be as good as it's supposed to be
00:36:28
Speaker
That can't be the case moving forward. And they've got a they got to figure that out. like that there There's nothing Halfly can really do about that. It's up to the whichever four guys are on the field, they've got to do better. And that's really all it comes down to on that front. Yeah, go for it. Do you think it might be better to try him more on the inside than it is on the outside?
00:36:53
Speaker
I kind of do. I kind of wish they would justin tuck him or zidarius him more because you know you get him against a guard and whether he bull rushes or he speed rushes a guard I do think that you know, it's a better use of his skills kind of thing. But at the same time, we saw him have of a lot of success on the edge last year. So like I said, he's just not last year, you can't last year, you can't count because it was a three force team. So he was standing up. They played so much. They played so much sub package. It was almost four, three in it. Right. But he still wasn't
00:37:27
Speaker
He still really wasn't down in the dirt. yeah He was standing up on most of it. yeah But the reason I ask is because just going back in my mind to his his college film, when he came out, he played more on the inside in the 4-3 than he did on the outside. one So he he played on the edge most of the time. What it was is in Michigan's scheme, they played a 4-3, but it was like a...
00:37:53
Speaker
forget which one is which it's like a over and under so they used the so he was Roshan was the strong side end and the Sam linebacker was almost was blitzing almost every play so Roshan was basically you know he was a he was a 4-3 defensive end but he functioned like a 3-4 defensive end in in regards to how, like, he was there to eat double teams and allow the weak side defensive end, who was Chase Winovich, and our, you know, our Viper and Sam linebacker, and she just go in the backfield and create all kinds of havoc. So, it's... Wouldn't you technically call that playing on the inside if he's got somebody rushing off the edge right this time? I guess so. I guess so. But in the moments where they rushed for, he wasn't going inside. Like, that's what I mean, is, like, he wasn't playing a true three technique or anything, but... Like I said, they've got to do something. They've got to figure it out. And fuck, if it gets him and Lucas on the same side and they twist the two of them, like, like you said, go for it. Like, well, that's like I was talking about Tennessee's defensive line last week. That's a lot of beef coming off the edge. You know, they're both over six foot three. They're both over 270 pounds. They both are bull rush artists.
00:39:11
Speaker
I can't think of what they their height is off the top of my head, but I know they're closer to 280 than they are 270. and And it just, it wouldn't make, yeah, see Rashawn is 65,277 and Lucas is pretty much the same, 65,272. So, you know, that's a lot of beef coming off the edge.
00:39:39
Speaker
that I don't think even with a tight end help, I don't think even with an extra lineman, they'd be able to stop that bull rush from that side. yeah And that would allow you to put Preston or Enigbare or Britton Cox or whoever it is on the other side. And you know it would create a dominant line. But who am I? I'm just some sh schlub sitting on a couch watching games every week. And I'm just another schlub halfway around the world from you. but Other than that, like, linebackers were okay.
00:40:14
Speaker
I thought Quaid did pretty good today. Yeah. And like that's not just because of the sag. It's just hard to evaluate because they didn't have to get attacked today because like the the lack of cornerbacks and stuff. But I did think he played decently well against the run and was solid in pass coverage. But like I said, it's hard to tell because he was as much as like they were, he and McDuffie were getting targeted last week and the week they were trying to target him the week before.
00:40:42
Speaker
they were never going to get targeted in this game once Jair was ruled out and Valentine was ruled out that just was never going to be the game plan so I did think they were they were good though but yeah it's one of those where it's like it's good but also the rest of the boats on fire so like how good is good you know is that really good enough or not but my whole thing with the Lionbacker is like
00:41:07
Speaker
There's a lot of things that Edge is doing where he looks really good. But my thing is, is like he's not being asked to do more than one thing yet. he's getting out there for like a dozen plus plays a game and they're like you're doing this one thing so you go and fucking do it at a thousand miles an hour and it's perfect it's on it like that's not a bash against edge that's not a bash against the that's how they should be using him because it's like we don't necessarily and it's not his fault because he's a rookie who missed part of trading cap but it's like we don't
00:41:40
Speaker
no, or maybe he's flat out told him, I don't fully have the playbook yet. So they're like, fine, you're gonna go out there and we're gonna shoot your ass out of a cannon and you're gonna fuck shit up in front of you. And he's doing a great job at it. But for people that are like, oh my god, he looks so decisive. He looks so explosive. I'm like, if you're be if he's doing only what's drawn on the whiteboard, he should look fucking explosive. Like,
00:42:07
Speaker
if you know like I tell it all the time to so the the like when I would coach receivers I was like if I told you every time that you would run the five yard slant and that DB would always be two yards off of you and would never press you and the quarterback's gonna throw it right when you turn around kind of thing you should complete the ball like nine and a half out of ten times but sometimes you're gonna get pressed you might slip the ball might come out funny like all these kind of things and stuff and it's like they're trying to maximize Edges athleticism into tangible outcomes by just saying go fuck shit up And we'll let the other ten guys do the thinking around you kind of thing and so that's all I'm gonna say about that Right and it goes back to what you've talked about all all year so far with Kway had Cooper been taken in the first round like Kway had people would be talking about him a lot different Because they're playing the same
00:43:05
Speaker
the that sack quay had i he was amazingly fast on that yeah that's that's the same thing cooper's been doing yeah so you know had they been drafted in the same spot or who knows or um if quay was drafted into this system like in as opposed to right like you're gonna sag eight yards off the ball and read and react kind of thing it's like oh all right i'll try do it as best i can kind of thing so yeah to each their own right
00:43:37
Speaker
The main thing is like, Hope Jire gets healthy soon. It helps that. Next week we're playing a team that is as, as banged up as our secondary was in this game, the Rams receivers are probably more banged up than we are, which is insane to think about, but that helps going through this game. And again, for this patch rush, I don't, surprisingly, I don't think this Rams O-line is as bad as that Tennessee one is, but This will be another one where like, they've got to create pressure. And like, ah ah we'll go into that in our pony preview, but the, the concern level is going up on the, the, the pass rush. But like, I'm not, I'm not banging the alarm bell because it is just four games. And like I said, only two of them where you're like, they should be getting pressure. But there is a little bit of an I twitch and a mustache ruffling going on so far. Well, I'd like to know when the decision on Jair Jair was made.
00:44:37
Speaker
Yeah. Because that would tell me a lot more about how the injury is. Yeah. And like the the part we'll never know is, was it a day off on Friday? Or did he have a setback after Thursday's practice? That's what we're never going to know. But we're going to find out based on his participation you know come Wednesday, Thursday of this week. So just cross our fingers, see what's happening. But like you said, with the offense,
00:45:07
Speaker
You know, there's a lot of film of guys who aren't gonna play much, but the good thing is, like I said, Cooper is doing, like I said, he doesn't have high responsibility, but of the things you're asking him to do, he's kicking ass and chewing bubblegum at the things you're telling him to do.
00:45:23
Speaker
Bullard and Evan Williams both, I thought they were okay. Neither of them really got targeted for anything today, but each of them made a nice play here and there kind of thing. Williams just fucked up number four today on that one. Like I tweeted, he got his money's worth on that hit.
00:45:40
Speaker
oh and Bullard had a couple plays where like they sent him on some run blitzes. I think he tracked Jones down from behind on one of those. He had a couple of decent plays in coverage. Yeah, it's yeah so's got a TFL. yeah so you know And with Bullard especially,
00:45:59
Speaker
That's a guy who, unlike Cooper, is being asked to do a bunch of different things. Some of it's not gone great. See the AJ Brown touchdown from week one. But seven out of 10 things, eight out of 10 things, Bullard's been pretty solid. And you just want to see him tighten up his game as the season goes on. Maybe Williams gets introduced a little bit more depending on you know how the cornerback situation, Nixon's play, yada yada, all that kind of stuff goes on.
00:46:23
Speaker
but I do think the progression from the defensive rookies is solid. And like I said, the Cooper and Hopper stuff, it was always going to get road blocked a little bit because of how much preseason time they missed. That's just how these things work these days.
00:46:41
Speaker
So we'll see how that goes. But like I said, you know people who are getting on Halfly for what he did or didn't do, he made adjustments at halftime. Yeah, you know he you might not agree with what his initial game plan was. like You might have wanted him to blitz more in the first half, but he adjusted. He tried different things in the second half.
00:47:01
Speaker
and you know Some of the things, like, yeah, the defense shouldn't be giving up a touchdown every time that the opposing offense comes down the field. But they were put in really disadvantageous positions by those two interceptions in the first half. And, hey.
00:47:17
Speaker
They stuffed Minnesota on fourth and one late in the game to keep it a nine point game. Like I said, with the offense, the defense, it wasn't good. It wasn't great today, but you saw them fighting throughout the whole 60 minutes. And there was going to be growing pains this season because of the new system, because of how many rookies you're leaning on. And it's, it's the last game of September. So it's disappointing, but I can live with it as long as they keep trending upwards from this point.
00:47:45
Speaker
Right. And I just completely blanked on what I was going to say. Uh, I don't know. I don't remember what I was going to say, but I do remember I was going to ask, do you know, is Jonathan Bullard and Jevon Bullard related? I don't think so. Uh, I know Jonathan's been in the league a little bit longer, but I just,
00:48:13
Speaker
I just like noticed it when I was, was looking at the stats. I was like bullard. Wait a minute. What? Um, I think they're around from the same area. Jonathan went to Florida, but he's, he's a bit older. yeah I don't know. I just, like I said, it just, I think that's why I lost the train of thought when I was, when I was going to say I was like, why am I seeing Bullard on both Minnesota and Green Bay defense? And, and it was Javon and Jonathan, but yeah, the rookies, I want to go back through and see the snap counts for, uh, Evan Williams and Tyron Hopper because
00:49:01
Speaker
I don't, it says Hopper had a tackle and I don't remember seeing him. I think that must be a special teams tackle. Cause I don't remember him on defense either today. I do remember the play you were talking about with Evan Williams, but other than that, I didn't remember seeing him out there. He was gone it was pretty limited out there. So yeah. I'm surprised that they didn't play Jevon more out of the slot.
00:49:29
Speaker
I think that's a function of they just don't have another safety. And I know where we both feel on this one. Granted, doesn't look great because I don't know if he's played yet for the Giants, but our now former cyclone was having a good preseason. And if you keep him over a defensive end who hasn't been active the last few weeks,
00:49:55
Speaker
Well, they kept him over frigging or they got rid of him over frigging Zane Anderson. Yeah. Another never want to see that guy on the defense player. Yep. He's got no stats this, this year. Yeah. So he's been inactive. So that makes me wonder what's going on there with him, but he still would be better than frigging Zane Anderson on the team.
00:50:24
Speaker
Yeah, but we won't go down that rabbit hole again, at least not here. Maybe after the season, that'll be one of our issues with one of the few black eye eyes for Gooty this
Special Teams Analysis
00:50:36
Speaker
season. But like I said, it's it's ah ah like you kind of mentioned with the offense, there shouldn't be any tape burning for half of it because every little bit of data he can collect is something that he can build this scheme off of. So he can take a little bit, but there is a little bit of like in equity in how useful this film is because it's like, I did think there was a lot of stuff he called that should have worked if there were just better players out there doing some of the stuff. so
00:51:05
Speaker
you know to each their own one and all like that kind of stuff but yeah so I think what Halfly will probably find is there's gonna be a lot of like that should have worked that should have worked that would have worked kind of thing and I know that you got a coach to your personnel and stuff but like I said I thought he was trying to cover for the guys that were in position, you know, we're all elevated up a position because of the Jairin, uh, Valentine injuries. But, you know, that's, that's the, that's the luck of the draw that you get in this league sometimes. So sometimes it's your day and today it definitely wasn't green days, but on to special teams. hang nervous Oh, Uh, Rochelle and Hodin was the ones that were called up from the practice squad, weren't they? Yep.
00:51:55
Speaker
I didn't see them playing much either. So um they were both active, but yeah, they didn't get in. if If either of them got in, it would have been Rochelle taking gunner snaps because he was one of the gunners down the stretch last season. but I know they really liked him and for for his boundary corner play also.
00:52:23
Speaker
so and he has no stats on here so that and Haddon was definitely i definitely saw Haddon in pads in on the sideline after one of the drives so because he's the new 36 so yeah fucking him but yeah so we'll see we'll see how that goes like you said like you kind of mentioned we'll so we'll track how Jair goes through practice this week but really uncertain on what, you know, their status is going to be going into this week, but special teams. You want to do the good part first or the bad part? first They'll go with the bad part first. So Braden Arveson needs to be gone tomorrow. I went off on this on the live stream. I did post game and
00:53:15
Speaker
I heard so much shit as Anders Karlsson got for the stuff that he went through. We knew for a fact because it happened all year last year. If he missed one, he wasn't missing another.
00:53:33
Speaker
Narvison missed both field goals attempted today. And he doinked in the last PAT he kicked too. Yeah, not a good day at the office today. and you and like the first you know The second one, 49 isn't 49 like it was 15 years ago. It's still a longer kick and all, but the part that I don't like is all his business are to the right. Everything is out the right side of the post.
00:54:03
Speaker
And you cannot miss under 40 in this league. like Unless there's a fucking hurricane happening, you can't miss under 40 yard field goals. That's absolutely inexcusable. So, yeah, I don't know. Lafleur threw his support behind. He had the whole Gootie article ah or or comments about how he maybe needs to be more patient with special you know specialists and all that kind of stuff. But I don't know. like
00:54:32
Speaker
that definitely changed Lafleur's game, his game management after the fact. It definitely affected the outcome of the game because you know that's six points that you didn't have in a two point loss.
00:54:48
Speaker
And yeah, like,
00:54:50
Speaker
nothing really more needs to be said about that like you just can't like I said the one that's most inexcusable you cannot you cannot be an NFL kicker and miss under 40 yard field goals that is just an absolute no-no and like like I said that's a big one for me and then the other side of it is all his misses are to the right and I don't know like whether to feel better or worse about that, but the fact is, is they're all pushed right. And, like, you know, like, Dasachia's comments after they cut Anders was just like, he had shit he was supposed to work on in the offseason, and he didn't get it, you know, fixed up enough as we needed him to. I get that it's only, it's been, like, less than a month for Narveson, but it ain't, it ain't looking good, dude. Like, yeah it really ain't looking good.
00:55:43
Speaker
Right, it's obvious he's not working on what he needs to work on if he keeps missing the same way every friggin' time. So, yeah. Onto the good, Dan Whelan! What a fucking monster! Well, I want to say this before we get into too much with Whelan. I know I'm on the record for saying this before.
00:56:05
Speaker
that you can't always go by practice and YouTube videos and everything else because that's not game situations. But it was brought up during the live stream by friend to show true North Packer fan. Why not do it like hockey and keep two kickers on the roster? Here's the fix for that. Dan Whelan, before being assigned with the Packers,
00:56:32
Speaker
had YouTube videos of him kicking field goals. And I think his long was 73 yards. Now granted that didn't have a rush coming at him. yeah Let's see what the motherfucker can do because obviously he can punt like none other The only the only reservation I have is he can't hold the ball for himself, which he has been Excellent at but otherwise didn't make no do it Or drop p drop kick it like fucking drop kick it like foodie. There you go But I wonder if you could do that. Could you honestly do that if you lined up for a pat? Not for pat but uh, uh, uh, uh
00:57:15
Speaker
Two point conversion instead of going for doing the two point, you just drop kick it. I don't know. or Do you have to declare it for that? That's a good question. I do not know what the rule is for that. I also, what I was going to say is I have no idea how far drop kicking work. Cause like when Flutie did it, he did it on a like the old PAT where, you know, he's kicking it from like the five yard line kind of thing. But.
00:57:38
Speaker
fuck like you said fuck it let just see i i jokingly said after the game like does alex hail get elevated or yarder today yeah does alex hail get elevated today or next week yeah i know i doubt it but no because unless he's really done a lot of work he was no better during training camp so at least he's got a big leg but but to the good Dan Whelan. Like I said, that punt he uncorked at the end of the first half. First off, I was just like, oh god, the Packers drive went nowhere and the Vikings have time and some timeouts. And so I was like, oh Dan, please kick a good get a good punt so that it... so that you know we flip field position so Minnesota is just like fuck it we'll just run the clock out kind of thing and then you can like I said you can as you're watching Naylor kind of try to get under that ball
00:58:40
Speaker
There's a point that all returners will tell you if you like count to three as you're trying to track it and you can't find it, you just run the fuck away from the ball at that point. And Naylor broke that, that, Cardinals. He committed that Cardinal sin because you saw it. He thought he was under it and then he started to have to back up, but he was like kinda just like.
00:59:03
Speaker
walking backwards and then he kind of went into oh shit and tried to like jump back and catch it over his head and it's like like I said I was laughing because I was like the one thing you couldn't do as the Vikings was do something so Viking like to just commit the stupidest turnover possible and you did and but it's all created because Whelan shot a fucking rocket off of his right foot in that instance And outside of that, he had some other really nice punts in the game. so the Two complaints I have. One, if that's really what our onside kick plan is, like he should have just kicked it at someone. like like that That's always been my attitude is, like especially with all these things where like even before where you had to declare you were going to onside kick, where like
00:59:59
Speaker
You couldn't overload one side of the field. you know That was the the first rule that kind of killed the onside kick. You couldn't put 10 guys on one side of the field for the onside kick. I was like, why don't they just kick the ball flat right at somebody's chest?
01:00:13
Speaker
because And especially one of those guys in the middle, because those guys are never expecting to catch the ball. Those are the guys who are supposed to block or create the muth, the muddle to let the other guy, the guys on the edge, you know, the the Donald drivers and stuff, recover it on the outside.
01:00:30
Speaker
And I won't, like, at this especially as someone who couldn't kick worth a shit, I was always like, if I ever got asked to kick an on-site kick, I'm kicking that thing two feet off the ground and right in between someone's number. I can't guarantee it's gonna go there, but that's what I'm gonna try to do. And because if I miss, it's gonna land in no man's land, and you just gotta trust that someone on your team is gonna beat the other team running for it kind of thing. So Like I said, one complaint, and the other complaint is that I'm like, there was one point where it was like fourth and four, and you saw if like, he can get around his feet and I'm like, just fall down, Dan, just fall. I need you to sell this. You don't need to be the tough Irishman all the time. You can be a weenie Brit just for once. You can fall down and be a weenie Brit. I was literally sitting in my living room going, I think it was after the first drive of the, it was after the Wix catch got overturned. And I was like, fall down, Dan, fall down, take one for the team.
01:01:33
Speaker
but Like, like I said, for Dan, wheel for your punter that I'm going to like, oh my God, like that's your onsite kick and come on, sell, sell it
Conclusion and Preview
01:01:42
Speaker
for the team. Like if that's my critique of your game, you know that you had a fricking awesome day punting the ball. I just have one thing to say. Now everybody knows what it's been like as an Iowa fan for the last three years.
01:01:58
Speaker
but with When you're the best player on your team right now is the friggin punter that you know what an Iowa fan has been through. But I thought the same thing. He was so close to it. He actually did touch his toes. Yeah. It's like you might as well just all over act like you got shot. God damn it. But three points, two of them in the 20 and 74 long.
01:02:27
Speaker
You really can't ask for better from him. And on the other side of it, you can't blame him for any of the misses from Narveson because he's been whole. He's a hell of a holder. Yeah. Yeah. Again, this is what Iowa has had to deal with for the last three years. So feel my pain.
01:02:50
Speaker
Other than that, much. I thought Kishan might have had a chance on that last punt return that one punt return he had, but whoever was the gunner blocker couldn't hold that one block. i thought That block got held for a split second longer. Nixon was picking the right lane to go up and it just, it, he just couldn't get the, that split second. He needed to get out of there and hit the gas on that one. But other than that, I thought our coverage was solid on punts and yeah, the, like I said, not much else. So yeah, it is what gets me on one of the kickoff returns because the kickoff went over his head and bounced.
01:03:31
Speaker
Oh, and he looked like he was going to grab it and go. It's like, Kishon, no. Yeah. No, no. I was more thinking he would, cause I thought he was more like, it's going to bounce off. Oh shit. It's not kind of thing. And yeah. So I know I was like, Oh, that's right. It's live. It's not college where it's just dead. The moment it hits the end zone. So I was like, just get on that and get on down. But.
01:03:56
Speaker
i know but he looked like he was looking for his lanes when it was when it it it's like no key shot no key shot no if the vikings didn't tackle him basaccio was going to it but that's gonna do it for the game review uh we go to your segment if you've got anything tonight joe i think we're gonna change the segment for our you games because I stayed away from social media all day to day. makes I i had mentioned this during the post game live stream that I wasn't on Twitter.
01:04:34
Speaker
because I tend to notice that I pay attention more to Twitter than I do the game. And I want to be able to watch the game to give my full opinions on everything later on. So I think we're going to move the STFU segment to our Thursday episodes that way gives me a chance to go through the social medias and find some good stuff to put people in their place. However, I am going to take the time.
01:05:01
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so Mention this right now because this episode is being recorded on Sunday, but is going to be released on Tuesday So when you hear this this will be in the future. I Didn't win the lottery. I don't have the lottery numbers. So, you know, just just keep your shorts on with that one But I do want to bring this up. We will be pushing this more on social medias and everything else With this being uh, going into cancer awareness month and the salute to service times and all that good stuff. We are releasing two t-shirts with two, uh, uh, emblems on them, one for cancer awareness and one for salute to service. The, uh, and what we're going to do is for every t-shirt sold, we are going to
01:05:59
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charities, we're still workshopping, which charities we're going to, we're going to donate to. I think the cancer one was settled on Trisha Trisha's troops. Now I thought it meant it was a militia group, but they told me it wasn't a militia group. So, you know, I kind of had my reservations after that, you know, but anyway, it's a good cause out of, uh, and it's based in Wisconsin. So.
01:06:25
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For the cancer awareness shirts, every five or every shirt we sell, $5 is going to Trisha's troops. We will be discussing it a little bit more to figure out which charity we're gonna do for the Salute to Service, but it's gonna be the same thing for every t-shirt sold of the Salute to Service emblem. We will be giving $5 to a military charity.
01:06:52
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ah ah So, Please keep an eye out for that. They were just released as of us recording. Like I said, we'll be pushing it more on social medias and that. But please go over, check it out at the website, the merch store. It will be for a good cause. ah ah and And get shirts, show your support. Do it. And on that note, that's going to do it for us tonight.
01:07:22
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want to thank you for joining us for this episode. Please check out, just to lead into it, check out the website, bohannapackers.org, merch, blog posts, streams of the episodes, merch, including the Crucial Catch line that Joe has been working very hard on, but also all of the other stuff that we've got on the but on the the shop. Please support the website that way.
01:07:47
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01:08:29
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