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OPE Season 3 Episode 25 Will The Bears Still Suck?
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Aloha and welcome to another episode of OPE! On this episode its Da Bears week! we take a look at some of the key matchups and give some over/unders!
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Intro
Packers vs. Bears: Game Importance
00:00:19
Speaker
Aloha, welcome back to another episode of the Ohana Packers Edition podcast. Today we are previewing the Packers week 11. and or We had to buy off by a game and stuff. So I'm counting. I'm trying to recount and stuff. But the week 11 matchup with the Chicago Bears, they're going to that dump of turd of a piece of turf that is Soldier Field to face the Bears for their third division game of the season. The Packers are looking for their first divisional win and to probably keep pace, not gain ground on the on the division leaders since the
00:00:59
Speaker
Lions and the Vikings are again facing inferior competition with the Lions facing, even if you even if Lawrence was starting, the Jags are a much lesser team than the Lions, but Mack Jones is starting for the Lions and the Vikings are facing the pitiful Tennessee Titans. So Green Bay's got to get a win, you know, it's a little more pressure, got to get that win on Sunday to keep pace with the rest of the division and You got to start getting these division wins, you know, you struck out on your first two at this point, and you can't afford to lose this one, you know, especially against the team that's the bottom in the division. And if you want to have any hope at being able to catch the
00:01:39
Speaker
catch the division lead this season, you know, you're going to need help, but it all starts this
Packers' Roster Updates and Strategy
00:01:44
Speaker
Sunday. So, Joe, you know, we're coming off the bye. I'd say expectations are running rather high, especially with the promising practice news. Okay, initially these reporters were saying that everyone participated, but then the report comes out, including Marshawn Lloyd, but then the report comes out that Colby Woodin did not in fact participate, but everyone else was a participant of some sort. As I said, Marshawn Lloyd has 21 day window open. And the big news is that Jordan Love was a full participant in practice. So it's looking promising coming out of the buy Joe. Well, we also got to talk about.
00:02:24
Speaker
they're also down an edge rusher because of the Preston Smith trade so we didn't have an episode after the trade deadline or no I guess the trade deadline yeah did we have an episode after trade deadline Yeah, we did. We had, uh, Sunday, the, the one we recorded Sunday and, uh, what's it called that came out on Tuesday. So, yeah, everything's running together for me lately. but yeah, it's good to see with the injury report, everybody's participating for the most part. I don't know the Colby wooden thing. Cause yeah, I'm just now seeing it.
00:03:03
Speaker
The big question that I have, and and of course it doesn't have to happen immediately, but at some point within the next three weeks, they'll have to make a decision. Who does Lloyd replace? I was kind of talking about this on Blue Sky with another gentleman, and you know all three running backs on the roster right now have looked legit.
00:03:30
Speaker
Brooks is getting more playing time, and that includes him being able to pass protect a little bit more, but even given rushing attempts, he's been doing pretty good. and Wilson has been pretty good. and You know they're not going to cut Josh Jacobs for Marshawn Lloyd. So are they going to try to justify keeping four people or four running backs? And if they do,
00:03:57
Speaker
than who gets replaced on the roster.
00:04:02
Speaker
And if they don't, which one of the other which of one of the two gets released? Yeah, it it opens up a bunch of possibilities. My thinking,
00:04:17
Speaker
God, it's such a coin flip because it really did look like Brooks took the running back to spot from Wilson, but then he had I think he got himself in the doghouse making that decision to not get out of bounds. He had a half time against the Lions and you you saw Wilson get in the game board. The second half of that game went on. So yeah, it's just really tough to tell.
00:04:40
Speaker
i'm I have this feeling we're not going to find out this week. I get the feeling they're going to kind of slow play it with Lloyd's return. They've already done that to an extent and he's still listed with a cut. you know He went on with the angle the ankle and there's some you know discussion if he picked up the hamstring or they're just listing it because he's dealt with the hamstring in preseason and stuff. so you know, kind of not great that he's listed that way after coming up, you know, and he spent, what was it, like six or seven weeks on IR, so not ideal that he's listed with both the ankle and the hamstring. So there's the... i think
00:05:17
Speaker
that was the original stuff was that he was dealing with the hamstring yeah but it's just and they'll have to list him on the report because he's not cleared yet there you go yeah that would make sense so yeah i think you're right that his designation is like frozen from the time he was put on ir so that that would make sense so But yeah yeah, I'm kind of curious if he is back back this week or if they slow play it a week and bring him back next week. But yeah, I'm excited to see him play. But yeah, I mean, you asked me 10 times who between Wilson and Brooks gets cut. And I do think.
00:06:00
Speaker
especially after they traded away Preston, I get the feeling that there they're going to, you know, because my answer before would have been, oh, Brented Cox gets cut.
Running Back Dilemma
00:06:15
Speaker
But now that you're sitting the way you are, I'm kind of curious if they, yeah, just chance releasing Brooks or Wilson, signing them back to the practice squad and having their practice squad elevations available. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think they have an open roster spot because of the Preston trade. Yeah, that's what I'm counting right now. But that still means if they don't fill it with another position, that they're still going to be running with four running backs. And how I just don't see how you can justify having the four running backs.
00:07:00
Speaker
Because none of them are really going to be much contribution to special teams, because you don't really have running backs on special teams.
00:07:11
Speaker
oh yeah I don't know. I don't know. It would be so hard to justify having that many running backs and having ah ah as many wide receivers as they have. so Yeah.
00:07:24
Speaker
and And I'm not saying that they'll make the decision this week. I know they're not going to make the decision this week. They'll they'll give him they'll probably use up the full 21 days just because that's how typical it is with them.
00:07:38
Speaker
And you're right, they aren't 52 players, so who knows. you You might be right, they might just activate them and then have them be a game day inactive.
Bears' Turmoil and Challenges
00:07:45
Speaker
so Because you're right, you know the the the point you brought up is that you know even if my thought is correct that Brooks is kind of in the doghouse, Brooks has proven to himself to be such a good pass protector that it'd be really hard for Lloyd to to just take a spot away from him unless he has, you know, really just they have a slice of play set up for him, which it seemed like they did to open the season. But it remains to be seen if they're going to go down that road or if they'll ease him back into the game and stuff, especially with, you know, Wilson looked good right in that Detroit game. Brooks has had his moments and Jacobs has just been so consistent and steady for the team this year. So.
00:08:26
Speaker
yeah Yeah, there's there with the money that he's being paid and the the workload that he's had that Jacobs isn't even in the equation right now Oh, yeah, I know I'm just saying like it's a as a method for potentially like lessening his load and stuff You know you have another but you're right. It is hard to have four running backs active on game day especially because I think Wilson is the only one who really plays special teams. So maybe Brooks does. I'll keep an eye on that come Sunday. But yeah, they don't get a lot of snaps at special teams, the three current running backs. So that remains to be seen moving forward. But we could focus on the Packers. And I know we'll keep going back to the Packers in this episode. But this is our opponent preview. It's the Bears and they suck.
00:09:17
Speaker
like all kinds of turmoil is coming out of Chicago this week front office you know the team and front office kind of making comments about like oh you know, did they rush Caleb? Are they going, you know, in the outside forces saying, oh, my God, are they just doing the same thing to Caleb that they did to Justin Fields? Shane Waldron getting fired and now like, you know, initially Chicago people were saying like, oh, my God, it's such a great hire. And now the voices are saying, oh, well, you know, Seattle ran him out of town and wasn't sad to see him go. And now you're kind of seeing it with Chicago. And then
00:10:00
Speaker
Also what came out today is the rumor that well, I don't know if it's a rumor or like like actual locker room talk that Veterans wanted a Tyler Badgent to get snaps in the gate like to potentially start and There's not a lot of these guys who played with Badgent, I think most of those receivers and stuff are gone So I don't think they know how bad Badgent actually is um But to each their own you know
00:10:29
Speaker
the you know the The red the read speech from Shawshank Redemption, whether hope is a good or a bad thing the Bears, hope that quarterback has been a bad thing and it just torn many a man apart, as Red would say. So yeah, it's their quarterback situation is such a mess, but I guess we'll start there. like Are you at all surprised that they're having the struggles on offense that they are?
00:10:54
Speaker
Honestly, yes And the reason and I know I was kind of getting picked on when I went on live with Ramage and Jimmy a few weeks back for a postgame, but ah From everything that I've seen of his college days Hang on just a second
00:11:17
Speaker
Sorry, I had to belch and I didn't want to do it on frigging microphone.
00:11:22
Speaker
that's what you get when you rush home and eat something right real quick before you frigging have to record. Um, from everything that I watched with Caleb Williams, free draft, yes, he has his issues, but he still is a playmaker. And with all the weapons that they have on that team.
00:11:44
Speaker
DJ Moore, the shell of Keenan Allen, Cole Comette. There's another receiver. ah Oh, oh, Ro Madunze. You know, they've got the running backs, Swift and and and Roshan Johnson, who I love coming out his his rookie year. They have the talent on that team to be able to do something.
00:12:13
Speaker
I was trying to think is is Eberfluis a defensive minded coach or is he an offensive minded coach? He's a defensive minded guy. He was the last time we saw him coordinate a defense. He was coach defensive coordinator when we played him back in 2020. Okay, that's what I was trying to figure out because I know they said that he they I know Waldron was fired and all that stuff and of course it It makes you wonder about that decision to sign him as the offensive coordinator anyway, because now this is his second job he's lost in less than 12 months. So I mean, that that kind of has to tell you a little bit. But I couldn't remember if Ivar Flus was a ah defensive minded or offensive minded, because and then it breaks down to, well, if he's an offensive minded coach, Waldron's not calling the plays anyway. But, you know,
00:13:09
Speaker
Like I said, you can tell what's bothering Caleb Williams. there's deep There's dysfunction with his offensive line. They're not giving him the proper time. He's holding on the ball too long because he's afraid of getting that hit because his lines always collapsing on him. And they do have some nice talent on the defensive or i mean on the offensive line.
00:13:35
Speaker
kid out of Tennessee, Darnell Wright, I was high on him. I'm glad I'm not bigger in the content creation world because I said the same thing that one guy said about him that he was going to be strictly a right tackle because that was going to fit his mold and then he jumped all over the guy for saying that.
00:13:59
Speaker
but He looks I thought he was pretty good. I don't know this is where my lack of watching the Bears Hurts because I I don't know what the biggest issues with the offensive line are is white doing right or Damn it. I keep saying the wrong name right doing right There's what's the other kid that they were really high on I Jenkins? Yeah, Tevin Jenkins. He's never healthy. Wright's battling an injury, too, right now. And so, yeah, like just on that front, that's really been one of the bigger problems. Excuse me. i'll see if There I go, burping. Now you're having problems.
00:14:44
Speaker
that's been the bear's bigger problem is that this line hasn't been healthy in like three or four weeks and that's kind of when Caleb's issues really started to prop up you know he you know he had his hot moments yeah he has his his times where he's looks really good at moments but then the bad habits that you know pop up from his time at USC where he's bailing on clean pockets and stuff and not necessarily to the point of seeing ghosts, but you know that idea of where he's anticipating pressure that's you know not quite there and stuff like that.
00:15:21
Speaker
Those issues are popping up, but, you know, part of it is that when you don't know who's going to start in front of you, it's hard to get that trust. And, you know, just this week against the Packers, the the news on Tevin Jenkins is not great. He's out. He missed practice on Wednesday and they're like, oh, we'll take it up to game time kind of thing.
00:15:40
Speaker
Braxton Jones is injured, but I think he was a limited participant. Darnell Wright was a limited participant. So that your two offensive tackles who are not healthy, your right guard who is potentially out this week. And then you they just cut their other guard, Nate Davis, who you know some some Bears fans were like talking all high and mighty about. And then I don't think their center is anyone to write home about either.
00:16:07
Speaker
so yeah it's just you know dysfunction partly due to injury and partly because some of the other guys just aren't as good as you know some people prognosticated them out to be but at the end of the day it comes down to the fact that you know Caleb was a is not what Caleb is a rookie and And outside of rare circumstances, rookie quarterbacks will always hit a rough
Exploiting Bears' Weaknesses
00:16:30
Speaker
patch. you know you you talk about it You talked about it with our draft class, where it's like, you worry about the rookie wall. like You rook worry about when know the league you know adjust back, and you know how are you going to react to it? you know We see Jevon Bullard going through that a little bit right now, partly because he's being put into a lot of different, you know he's having to wear a lot of different hats and stuff. and
00:16:52
Speaker
But with Caleb, that's the thing. is like You see this all the time with young quarterbacks. It's like, OK, you have a stretch of like some really nice play. And then it's like, what does the lead how do you react to what the league does to you to take away some of those things? And you know there if his play has been inconsistent. You have ah DJ Moore, who's had some not so glowing moments the past few weeks. Xavier McKinney took time out.
00:17:21
Speaker
what was that i i um' go to ask you about that because i don't know the whole situation because i didn't watch any of the games or anything like that i did see where he like walked off the field in the middle of a play was that injury wise or was that because of Okay, I legitimately thought he was hurt because I don't think he came back in for their next drive and like he did get listed with an ankle or a hamstring or something like that. So that one I, you know, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and you can, I know you can milk it, but you can tell like as he hobbles over to the bench, like he had done something to his leg and it was, he was on a bolo tire kind of thing. But the problem is, is that he then followed that up with a couple more weeks of where he's like kind of so dogging routes and stuff like that. And
00:18:05
Speaker
So, you know McKinney and I do think Xavier is more He's more lighting more up because Moore had the audacity to like talk about like, oh, who the hell is Xavier McKinney? We don't care. We're going to be a great offense, blah, blah, blah. And that to that vein, I do think McKinney is correct to say like, oh, you're talking so much shit when everything was all great in the off season. But once the you know once the going got tough, you just quit on your team. kind of And to that degree, you know like I said, with the Cardinals one where you know
00:18:39
Speaker
I thought Moore was injured and he went off and, you know, I likened it to the Death Star trend scene from A ah New Hope where Luke tells Wedge and Tilly is like, just go, you're no good back there kind of thing. And there is a degree to like, if you're that hurt playing, it's like, yeah, you can't move, you can't cut, you can't get to the ball. So it's like,
00:19:00
Speaker
It's not a good look, but I understand, but you go and have another week or two where you have similar like bad bad effort and you know body language and stuff, and it you're just kind of like, okay, so maybe he wasn't hurt the other time and stuff. and it you know Part of it is like, maybe he is that hurt, but also if you're that hurt, then why are you playing kind of thing? like so
00:19:27
Speaker
I don't, you know you can't blame Caleb for that one. you know Do they blame Waldron? I don't know. it's It's a whole, it's a cacophony of mess ups on Bears. Their offense was a sham. and a you know it It was a house of cards and the bottom fell out of it a few weeks ago.
00:19:44
Speaker
but You know, Green Bay can't take that for granted. You know, I know January participated today, but, you know, the floor was not as glowing of his chances to play this week as i you would hope to hear coming out of the bye week. It was still a more tepid, like, you know, we'll take it up to game time and stuff. i think I'm going to say the same thing that I've been saying for weeks and weeks and weeks. I don't trust anything that comes out of a press conference.
00:20:14
Speaker
Because it's all just coach peak. It's all just you know, is he playing mind games? Is he playing, you know, is he speaking truce? Is he speaking half truce? You know, you just use the Star Wars wars reference. I'm gonna do the same thing. You know, from a certain point of view, you know, we're gonna take it up to game time. But he already knows the decision is gonna be made. You know, so it I don't trust press conferences. I think they just need to do away with them just because that's all you get is just a bunch of coach speak and you don't actually get anything out of them anymore. Yeah, I do agree to that point. But it is just one of those like more selfish kind of reactions. It's like
00:20:56
Speaker
Okay, you like didn't play the week before the buy and you sat the by so like damn it wish you were so it's like I said, it's more of a selfish reaction than it is like a Oh, no, like truly like down in the dumps thought but we'll see we'll see where they are at the end of this week. But yeah, like, you know, um,
00:21:15
Speaker
go and going back to the DJ more thing like he's not listed on the injury report this week so uh you know it brings even more you know consternation onto where he's at where he is mentally and you know is either to help or hurt the team kind of thing but you know green bay green bay can't take anything for granted this is another inflection point i think for the season where hopefully Jair is back, you know, Evan and hopefully Evan Williams is back because you want to see your secondary healthy, you want to see your secondary play together and really just try to take even more of the wind out of the Bears, you know, Bears fans have talked a lot of shit about how good they were going to be this season and
00:21:59
Speaker
to go be able to go out there and just say like nah you're still the bottom you're still the cellar dwellers of the division like sure we've had some disappointing moments the Packers that is this season but you are still the Bears and of the 21st century which have been just a complete lackluster disappointment of a team so put your money where your mouth is kind of time for the Packers is what I'm saying Like I said, you hope you have Ja out there, Evan Williams back so that you know you can get your preferred secondary out there and just see what you can do to a, what is a talented receiving core for all the slack, the you know the smack that Boar is having to take this week. He is still talented and have no idea what the bears off. That's the thing too is like, when you switch coordinators,
00:22:56
Speaker
there's always the chance that you end up with not necessarily a desperate team but like the new play caller is just in huck it at the wall mode and you know you you've got film on what the Bears have done for nine weeks out of the season but it kind of doesn't matter because that guy who was calling plays isn't there and so it's like the there's two ways you can go is you can get this super frenetic play calling because the new guy is just like well what we were doing wasn't working so fuck it we're gonna just try a whole bunch of shit and see what sticks or do they just lean further in and say like well we don't have time to change everything so we're just gonna stick with what we know kind of thing and and leave it be and stuff so we'll see but the Packers really do have to be ready for anything know in the preseason that was the joke last year was like
00:23:46
Speaker
Oh my god, that Justin Fields has you know a 50-year touchdown for when it was a screen to DJ Moore and stuff. ven oh As much as they did kind of handle Moore last year, it was just him. And yes, I know it's like a little bit something past the carcass of Kenan Allen.
00:24:06
Speaker
He's still pretty solid as a possession receiver and Romo Dunsey has had about a highlight a week and you know how much of that has been limited by you know him being a rookie that needs to learn more and how much of it is just poor play calling.
00:24:24
Speaker
remains to be seen, but Packers like don't be that team that fuck around fucks around and finds out. like This is a week for, like I said, the secondary to get back on its feet. And for the pass rush to, like I said, I think that they've been doing a lot of good things well moving forward the past couple weeks. We've seen the edges get more wins. We've seen, you know hopefully, Devontae is know being another week healthier. He's not even on the injury report. So hopefully, he'll be able to get back to where he was prior to his injury.
00:24:53
Speaker
And Kenny continues to you know take to the new system. And then because you should be able to pick apart this old line, whether it was healthy or not, and just get in William Caleb's head and just put him in the torture chamber for you know all intents and purposes. so or bading yeah or bad well small hands badging so we'll see what happens with that and that's the thing is like you know that was the concern last year is it's like oh god Barry's gonna make this rookie look like a four-time all-pro and I do think Halfly is gonna do all the kind of things that are just gonna stress Caleb mentally and physically you know mentally before the snap physically after the snap with you know his
00:25:38
Speaker
Double a gap looks pre-snap and then you know, all the like the does the zone pressures that they've put together this season so Really excited to see that and we'll see what the Packers can do on defense against this Bears offense that like I said It's it's been a hodgepodge, you know, they're bottom third in just about everything in the league Yeah,
00:26:01
Speaker
yeah the the only things that ah The only things that they're around average at is the number of rushes per game and number of passes per game, but they're actual like yardage output efficiency.
Packers' Strategy and Adjustments
00:26:16
Speaker
Those all suck. So it's just, yeah, I'm looking at it right now. there I mean, their numbers are so weird on things.
00:26:25
Speaker
Yeah, like their 24th and points scored their seventh and points allowed. So they're not given, they're giving up less points than the Packers do. They're plus eight in the takeaway differential, but then they're 30th and passing yards, 24th and rushing yards, 24th and defensive rushing yards, but they're seventh and pass defensive passing yards.
00:26:52
Speaker
And yeah that makes no sense. Those numbers make no sense for ah ah an NFL team. And you've kind of seen why because they do. So this is where it kind of goes hand in hand where they, oh babies asleep. So he had to go, he had to go soft voice. so what's it so they they're just so disjointed on offense but their defense has been solid like you said you know the stats do back that up but yeah and they they muck up the game you kind of saw it you know like one of the more high-profile games they played was
00:27:32
Speaker
the Sunday night game against the Texans and I know the Texans have been really inconsistent this year but the Texans took a lead at halftime. I think it was a two score lead and then they like couldn't do shit after halftime and it was because the Bears defense was just um especially that front was just picking apart the Texans O-line and while I do think what Green Bay has in its favor is this might be the best O-line that the Bears defense has faced this season and on top of that Montes sweat is a little bit of a question mark with with an ankle injury and if he doesn't play this Sunday their pass rush just goes down the shitter because
00:28:12
Speaker
much similar to like the Packers' cornerback room without Jair. The Bears' pass rush is relatively anemic if Montez Sweat doesn't suit up for a game because he's that guy that demands that kind of attention from opposing offenses. He's just, you know, a relentless rusher and if he doesn't play, their pass rush, like I said, it's anemic to not almost non-existent, so
00:28:38
Speaker
It's a, you know, this game sets up where really well for Green Bay. And like you said, they have kind of weird stats. So like, like you said, seventh in points a allowed. 13 thin yards per game. So, you know, you can gain yards on them and the place you can actually hurt them is on the ground. And so it's the whole, are you going to stay committed to the run game? They're 24th in the rush yards allowed, you know, 133 per game. And the big one is they allow 4.8 yards per rush. So same thing that I said to, you know, for the Lions game, it's like, it's great that, you know, especially now Jordan probably should be a lot healthier, but
00:29:16
Speaker
Damn it, like you don't have to lean on the past game. You can, you know, we don't need Jordan. That's the thing is like, I would do want to see how they recalibrate coming out of the buy is like, are they intent on like showcasing Jordan as like a top three quarterback, or are you going to do what is necessary to win games this season and stuff? And are you going to plug your run game and play off of it, which I do think Jordan's injury is going you know before the buy you know the knee and then the groin they did prohibit that to an extent because you know he couldn't go under center as often as you wanted and you know all of that kind of stuff so we'll see where the team goes from there but you just gotta
00:30:01
Speaker
Like just, you just look at the stats and they're not a good run defense. They're very solid against the pass. You know, they give up, like you said, the seventh fewest passing yards per game. They're kind of middle of the packing yards per pass and percent completion percentage or completion percentage, the top five. But otherwise, you know, sack percentage, interceptions thrown or passes picked off there.
00:30:27
Speaker
kind of like middle of the pack in both, but that's why even more so get the get the run game going and take advantage of these linebackers. You you did it last year. I know that you don't have a running back who is definitely the the passing game mismatch that Aaron Jones was, but you do have you know the capability to put Jaden Reed in the backfield. Tucker k Craft coming on would be a big way to take advantage of those linebackers. And that's why you just got to be aggressive um just you know stick with it. Stick with the run game.
00:31:02
Speaker
and Like I said, just don't make the game more complicated than it has to be. Just take it to Chicago and force them like make them prove that they are as tough as they like puff their chests out and say they are, which, like I said, the the the stats don't really paint that same picture for them. For sure.
00:31:26
Speaker
i mean and you got everybody's gotta remember that the Bears are always gonna play the Packers tough anyway just because of the rivalry that they've always had so it doesn't matter what the the records are for it for each team they always play them tough they're always gonna You know, and as much as we ragged on the Philly or the Philly game for the Brazil field, you know, soldier fields, not much better when it comes to that shit. No, I don't know what the weather's supposed to be this weekend.
00:32:01
Speaker
in Chicago. So, I mean, who knows what that condition of that field is going to be. But looking at the stats, I would i mean the rankings i would lean on the run game. I mean, you know especially if they decide to oh activate marsh on low, then you got four friggin running backs right there. Just just keep, you know, rotating them in and out. You know, and give everybody ah ah a touch or whatever. But I also think that they need to oh
00:32:42
Speaker
on top of that, I think they need to start doing more play action stuff. And the play action stuff is going to depend on Jordan's health. So just kind of looking at it right now, it says it's supposed to be as of today of this record tonight of this recording, 60 degrees Mild sun and areas of high clouds in the morning then mostly cloudy in the afternoon. So it shouldn't be too bad in Chicago only 24% chance of rain. So nothing too out outrageous But that also depends on if they go out and water the field before the game just so it will be shitty You know got to take advantage of anything that they can but it's I
00:33:32
Speaker
You've said it before, and and an article that will be releasing tomorrow with this oh this episode,
00:33:43
Speaker
Carlos said it, you know, they're 0-2 in the NFC North right now. They cannot afford to lose another one in the division. So they're going to have to step up and and play. Now if it gets down to it and Jordan's hurting, pull him.
00:34:05
Speaker
Just pull it. I'm not even going to mess with it. Just pull them because they cannot afford to lose this game. Yeah. And I know some people are going to scoff at that notion. But like you said, but the the last few games, the last few Chicago games, they started off close and then, know, Green Bay has kind of pulled away in each of them. But even last year, you know, the the week 18 game last year, Chicago went up early and it took Green Bay like almost two quarters to score in that one so that was at home so you know expect some funny business except some weird things to happen like i said chicago is going to be you know desperate to prove itself against you know their biggest rival and you know to like play for quote unquote you know quote unquote play for honor after waldrin got fired and stuff like that and their ah offense is probably going to just hug things at the wall but
00:34:59
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Yeah, like you said, at the end of the day, this is a game that Green Bay just cannot afford to lose. So, that's kind of how it sets up. And so Joe will take it into your over unders. What do you got for us this week? Nothing. Okay. no, I really haven't been able to think about it cause I was doing some stuff earlier and I just completely b blanked out on it.
00:35:24
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But I mean, like normally, I'll just go off the top my head. So since we think it's going to be a run high, a high run game, I'm going to set this a little bit higher. I'm not going to set it too high because then that's just ah ah ridiculous. But I'm going to go. I want to go seventy five and a half rushing yards for Josh Jacobs.
00:35:49
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I'm going to say no, but only because, especially if Lloyd gets activated off IR, I just think they're going to really spread it around this week. And as much as I think they should lean on the run, I don't know. I just get the feeling that we're going to end up throwing the ball like 30, 35 times and only run it like 20 something times. So not because he won't be efficient. I think just because game circumstances and stuff that it'll turn out where He'll be at like 70, 70, maybe even like 75. So you'll like just visit, but it'll still be at a good clip kind of thing. I'm going to take over because I, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and just say that they're going to do the run heavy thing. I'm not sold. The Lloyd is going to be activated for the week. Uh, like I said, I think they'll, if nothing else, they'll actually take up to the full, uh, 21 days just to.
00:36:47
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see where he stands and then make roster decisions from that. Because like I said, I'm not sold that they're going to run with four running backs on the roster. So yeah, I'll take the over on that.
00:37:02
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Let's do my favorite one, especially if they do run with a backup quarterback. And like you were kind of alluding to with them having fired their offensive coordinator, the guy that's going to be the intern, intern taking over, you know, he's
Game Predictions and Rivalry
00:37:20
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going to start doing every, yeah he's going to dig deep into that playbook just to find anything to get this offensive going, this offensive, this offense going and So I'm going to say...
00:37:36
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My favorite one over under half an interception for x Xavier McKinney. Alright, it's after the buy and it's the playoff push, so I'm going to say over. Though we're taking the gloves off and yeah, but it just this game just sets up so well for him. It's a rookie quarterback. Like you said, we like we both been saying this episode. There's just a lot of turmoil in this Bears offense, so I do think it just sets up for X to have an interception this week.
00:38:06
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I think so too, but I have a feeling and I know this is going to go against the grain for everything in the world. I'm going to say no.
00:38:18
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And the reason is, I think this will be the game that the two rookie safeties will. Well, it's their coming of age game, I guess you can call it, where they're going to be the ones making the plays, because as much as I want to see X get one and and like you were kind of talking about earlier, the trash talk between D.J. Moore and Xavier McKinney, you know, Xavier is going to go out there and play his heart out just to stick it to DJ more But I think they're gonna avoid him at all costs So it's gonna leave it open for Evan Williams and Javon Bullard to really step up and make the place So I'm gonna take the no portion of it Although deep down inside I will be hoping for that other one do two more
00:39:09
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One is another oldie but goodie that I keep going back to just in hopes that they're gonna actually fucking do it and That's over and under two and a half sacks for the Packers defense Fuck it again over they I feel like this is the first time where I'm other than the Titans game because the Titans o-line is just that bad This is a similar situation where it's like they kind of have to partly because Bears O-line is just in that much turmoil, and Caleb is that lost out there, really. you know and Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. I want to take the over just in hopes that they take very much advantage of the weekend offensive line that the Bears are going to be throwing out there. cause
00:39:56
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Like you were we were both talking about earlier, Wright was on the injury report. Braxton Jones is on the injury report. Tevin Jenkins is on the injury report. Kieran Amagagi is on the injury report. you know That's like 90% of their starters right there that are on the injury report. so And two out of the four are or did do not ah ah did not practice.
00:40:24
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so Yeah. I'm going to say they're going to take full advantage of it or I'm going to hope they take full advantage of it and go over. So my last one is kind of a goofy one, but with the game that they're playing with the hopes that the Packers are going to take full advantage of a weak Chicago Bears over, under two and a half punts for the Celtic cannon. I'm going to say over just because I don't, I don't,
00:40:54
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think they'll have figured out all of their issues coming out of the buy. I do think they're going to score 30, but I do think they're going to have three or four drives that end up in no points. I'm going to go the other end. I'm going to say under and just because, and not because I think that there, I just think with the weekend defense or the weekend team that is the Chicago Bears that they'll, you're going to see a lot more Fort down tries and, and, you know, go from there. Cause I think the floor is getting to the point where he's just going to start forcing the issue. All right, guys, you have to go out and make a play. You have to go out and make a play. And I think that'll lead to a little bit more Fort down.
00:41:43
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tries so i'm going to take the under on the celtic canon sounds good and yes i am still going to try pushing that is his nickname i dig it that's a good one um um better than me just calling him the irish man so yeah don't don't do the a don't do the accent and we'll lose the little bit of listeners that we already have so anything else though for this game joe or like i said i feel like this one And this isn't us like taking the bears lightly, but it's just hard to talk about this team that just looks so stuck in the mud and rudderless at this point. like this It's been the same team for the last 400 years, it feels like. It just means the names, but the thing is the same. Yeah.
Hosts' Platform Transition
00:42:30
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yeah ah For the game, no. are a couple things I do want to mention. There is no STFU this week. i'm I am contemplating deleting the app formerly known as Twitter. And not because I'm getting off social medias, but because I have made the transfer over to our the new wonderful world of blue sky. So if you do want to get off the cesspool known as Twitter. Uh, you know, blue sky is a wonderful place right now. Uh, there's not as much hatred. There's not as much vitriol going on. So you can find me over there.
00:43:19
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Same for me. Yeah, I'm still straddling both because not all the mainstream Packers reporters have moved made the move yet. So still need to have coverage across the two platforms, but starting to pick up my presence on blue sky as well. And yeah, we will. Like we said, we are.
00:43:38
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00:43:52
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Conclusion: Division Race Stakes
00:44:43
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00:44:55
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the Packers look for their seventh win of the season coming up on Sunday and their first division win. As we said, this is a must win at this point. You cannot come out of this week with a loss. That would just be so disappointing. And basically, you know, people aren't going to want to hear it, but it would basically shut the door on the possibility of winning the division, especially with Detroit and the Vikings.
00:45:21
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Basically having the table set for two almost guaranteed wins for them this weekend with them facing Just inferior AFC teams this week in the Jag wars with a backup quarterback and the Titans with whatever they're throwing on the field So Packers cannot afford to lose this game. They can't afford to drop a fourth NFC game at this point of the season and because you know as much as I think some people have put that they're like 90% to make the playoffs at this point or whatever. You've just got to start winning these division games. And if you want to have any hope of winning the division, you've got to win the remaining four on your schedule. So we'll see how this team looks if they've tightened the screws down and you know cleaned up a lot of their there are mistakes that they were committing over the opening of the season. And that's going to do it for us tonight. So we, as we usually say, go pack, go, and hello.