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OPE Season 3 Episode 15 The Packers Take LA
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Aloha and Welcome to another episode of OPE! On this episode we give the good, bad and ugly of the Packers victory over the LA Rams!
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Transcript
Intro
Packers' NFC Victory & Jordan Love's Improvement
00:00:31
Speaker
Aloha and welcome back to another episode of the Ohana Packers Edition podcast. The podcast where for the first time this season, or no, second time this season, the Packers are over 500. We've got our first NFC win nc conference win of the season. Jordan Love looks like he's found his footing figuratively, literally, and everywhere in between. And Joe, we are riding high off the West Coast wind. How are you doing tonight?
Stray Cat Adventures
00:00:59
Speaker
Well, we've had some excitement at our, in our area, not only for the Packer game, but we had a stray cat have a litter of kittens out on our deck. Lovely. So yeah. So, they were just born yesterday. So we've all been kind of freaking out that, Oh my God, what are we?
00:01:21
Speaker
Not that we're scared or anything of it, it's just like, okay, now we gotta be careful with the dog. Now we gotta be careful coming in now the driveway. Now we gotta to be careful of this, this and this. the Yeah, so it's been a fun last couple of days. So this this game really kind of pushed us over the top.
00:01:39
Speaker
yeah always some
Packers' Narrow Win & Defensive Strategy
00:01:42
Speaker
good news. And on that note, we've just been discussing how we're going to shift the layout of our part of our review podcast. We're going to go to more of the tried and true, good, bad, and ugly. But just for a quick recap of the recap, the Packers won today 24-19 in a game that was a little more snug than it probably should have been, oh save for one one play that would have made Brett Favre blush by Jordan Love and some
00:02:09
Speaker
Interesting defensive philosophies at the end of the game, but can't complain too much. Get up, get out with the win.
McKinney's Impressive Season
00:02:16
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And most importantly, Joe continues to be an absolute good luckstone for one Xavier McKinney. And there is no other reason for why he is a perfect five for five on the season other than the the benevolence of one Overlord, Iowa Joe. But Joe, can I safely assume that that is your good for the game for today?
00:02:40
Speaker
I, yeah, that one, that one for sure is good. I got to worrying about it for a little bit. Cause it's like, okay, we're getting a little closer here. We're getting a little closer here. And then it's like, yep, it happens. So we're good. but he's really living up to it right now. You know, he, you talk about bang for your buck x Xavier, you know, has five straight games, his first five games ever as a packer.
00:03:05
Speaker
And he comes out with five interceptions, which he himself has almost totaled what the Packers as a team did last year. And on top of that, that's a fumble recovery. And probably he's kicking himself for the one he dropped today, which I joked that it's it's a golden rule in football. If you unnecessarily jump for passes, it never works out good for you, whether you're a receiver, a DB. And McKinney got bit by that a little bit today. I know it was kind of one of those borderline ones. I think he sort of misread the ball on that one. But yeah.
00:03:41
Speaker
he looked more like the receiver than the tight end that Stafford was throwing to on that play it was and it wasn't you know that's and that's the thing so like we'll go i'll probably write an article about this so you know we spent all of draft season talking about how Gudakons, the Packers as a whole, they like to take athletes supreme athletes and teach them how to football.
Packers' Free Agency Philosophy
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But in free agency, they're open to multiple routes because, you know, we joke that McKinney is a guy they probably wouldn't have drafted because of his athletic testing profile. But the the really truncated thing about that is they're like, okay, like,
00:04:19
Speaker
This guy is a limited relatively limited athlete, but he shows good instincts. you know He's a playmaker in college. Because of his instincts, he knows how to football. But the concern is, does that translate to the pros, or does the deficiency in athleticism create a gap that you know can't be can't be closed up with the the instincts that know how, and you know just the the book smarts, the between the ears smarts.
00:04:45
Speaker
and In that case, McKinney kind of falls into the same box as Adrian Amos and the results, you know, Amos had a great start to his Green Bay career, had a really good first three seasons. And McKinney is better, has been better than Amos was even in his first, uh, you know, his first like month as a backer. Well, and what helps him is he's also a little bit younger than Amos was when the Packers signed Amos. So, but yeah, I agree.
00:05:15
Speaker
But it also makes you wonder, cause you know, what they always say that every so often somebody falls through the, the athletic traits department, whether it's they were suffering an injury during the athletic testing or, you know, they just, they couldn't, yeah something happened where they're athlete because on the place that he's making. You wouldn't think that he didn't score highly on athletic, you know, on the athletic scores.
00:05:43
Speaker
you know, his razz would be a lot better. But yeah, so happy about that.
Tucker Kraft's Rise
00:05:49
Speaker
I would say another good that we're having right now is is Tucker. Tucker Kraft is looking like the number one. I kind of wrote him the a couple of games ago because of the the fumble he had. But and it was my mistake. I'm fact checking my stuff myself. I thought he had fumbled the game previous to. But it was just the one that he did.
00:06:13
Speaker
So, but he's really stepping out, you know, four receptions on five targets, 88 yards and two TDs. And he had a lot, I don't know. Do you have his rack up? Cause he seemed like he got most of his yards as rack. It's going to be at least half of it was rack because I mean, just thinking about his catches. They're the same. Like it just depends who's talking. Yeah. Hold on.
00:06:42
Speaker
but I have the wrong stat page up right now. Yeah, I got ESPN up and they i know yeah yards after catch. But you just think about it on a play by play basis. So I mean, obviously the long touchdown, it's about, I want to say like a.
00:06:56
Speaker
25 yard pass and then, you know, it's ah ah in the air. It's a 25 yard pass. It's a 66 yard touchdown. So, you know, do the math there. had that that one catch that he took turned like a two yard pass into a 10 yard first down play kind of thing. had the one that he caught short on a like a dump off and he turned it into like a six or a seven yard gain. So I want to say like, actually, yeah I'm probably short changing him by saying it was like 50 percent. It might be closer to 60 or 70 percent of his production today was on Yak.
00:07:32
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So, I mean, you know, we we spent a lot of last season and, you know, a lot of people are getting into the whole like, oh, like, what does this mean for for Musgrave, all that kind of stuff. Musgrave still has a different role. And that's that's what we spent all of last season talking about. And I still joke about it this season is stop running Musgrave on craft routes, you know the quick outs and stuff like that. that's yeah He might break one here and there, but that's not his game. Whereas Crafted, he is the human bowling ball. You saw it on his touchdown.
00:08:10
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turns up field,
Musgrave vs Kraft: Team Strategy
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stiff arms a guy, Wix makes a great downfield block, and Kraft just rumbles into the end zone. And, you know, Musgrave will have his time. He is a different kind of weapon, but Kraft is showing the vision of taking a FCS player who does a lot of things well to really well, and it's just good scouting. I know you know, some will say like, oh, but he would, you know, it wasn't that much of a projection. But again, like we're talking about athletic profiles and stuff, you just don't know if a guy is going to make the competition jump or how long that's going to take. but And Praff has made it happen in in basically, you know, he was kind of in and out of, you know, the his usage in the offense was really limited to start last season. You know, you and I were saying how
00:09:03
Speaker
They've got to throw the guy a bone every now and then. Don't just let him get run over by you know veteran defensive ends kind of thing. Throw him a pass to give him to something to feel good about himself. Dude it feels really good about himself right now. He is becoming a star for this Packers team. And that's what you need when you're a Draft and Develop team is you obviously don't want setbacks in guys.
00:09:27
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and so and 20 to 30% of those guys that you're drafting, developing need to become stars at their position. Kraft looks like he's another one. Yeah. And do you know off the top of your head didn't Musgrai? I know he was on, he was active, but does Musgrai actually have any snaps? No, I don't believe he did. I was trying to keep a really good eye on that. I did miss the very beginning. Well, we all miss the beginning of the game.
00:09:54
Speaker
Fucking Evan McPherson. Thanks CBS. yeah and nfl NFL broadcasting rules and fuck you Evan McPherson. Bengals deserve to lose that game. And I missed the beginning of the third quarter because I had to go pick up lunch. but For my money, it was like 70% Tucker, a little bit of Sims to fill in the snaps, whether they went to 12 or if Kraft, you know, there's a couple of plays where Kraft kind of tapped himself out and stuff like that. But otherwise, you know, you're kind of wondering because I don't know if you get ESPN alerts, but I got the one where it was like,
00:10:31
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last night it was saying Musgrave was going to test it out pre-game and kind of determine if he was going to give it a go. Then he was active but then basically once the first quarter ended I was like okay he is the 46th guy on the active roster today because he has not like they didn't we didn't even really see him get panned by on camera on the sideline I don't think and you just never saw him even like you know I don't think he went out for like a field goal or anything like that so no big concern it's one of those where
00:11:06
Speaker
you're not putting him on IR and you just have too many other guys that are more in their they're injured. He's more on the hurt side of the fence than the injured fence, but it's the why put him out there if he could make it worse and it's not good to go kind of thing. Because like we said, different roles like Kraft has a bum shoulder, but he's still going to run through you kind of thing. Musgrave, his thing is being tall and fast. And if he can't be tall and fast, it's like You know, it's kind of like what we said about Watson is it's like, okay, you can use him as a decoy, but how good of a decoy is he if he's not fast and explosive when he's out there? So yeah, that's kind of what my takeaway from Musgrave not seeing Snaps was today.
Jordan Love's Resilience
00:11:48
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but What's your good so for this game? So my good is
00:11:55
Speaker
Jordan him love being that guy like Ty Dunn had a good tweet about it how it's like he had the bad from him but you also so why this team organization believes in him so much he has like I said a play that is first show like it is the poster child for do not do this on quarterback teach film and after that is honestly pretty lights out the rest of the game and you know really to that point that he threw the pick the pick six I don't even know what i
00:12:30
Speaker
the Snafu, the Murphy's Law play, whatever you whatever label you want to call the Pick Six. Up until that point, if you want to be totally honest, he has the Throw to Read, which is honestly a hairy play. If you take but If you take the corner back to that side out of their play, it's a perfect throw. Like Reed, it's in the perfect spot for Reed to run under it. It's away enough from the safety that's trailing Reed. But it's a bad decision because that cornerback is sinking under that throw. And if he plays that ball at
00:13:09
Speaker
10% better that's a fast breakup or an interception already and early in the game but from that pick six to the rest of the game I thought love was excellent and that's that 55% of the game that's my good for the game is that you saw again you see love make a mistake grow from it, move forward, and that's the guy the Packers need. Now you want to see a whole game, obviously, but it was good to see it. And the other good from Jordan Love, he took off for their first, third their I think their only third down conversion of the game. Lee looked healthy, didn't look like he was at all afraid to get hit, lowered his shoulder and stuff. So, yeah, Jordan Love is back.
00:13:53
Speaker
Yeah, I wish we would see a little bit more Uh, I, I know we're talking about the good at this moment, but I, you can still see he's having a little bit of trouble with this deep ball accuracy. I'm the one to read to that was beautiful. yeah I couldn't, that was just a beautiful pass, but.
00:14:19
Speaker
like you were talking about the one to Wix was a little you know under thrown had he been a little bit deeper with it who knows what would have happened so i have know you're gonna correct me
00:14:33
Speaker
I have my thoughts on that. Dusty did a really good write up on it. But it could you're right, it could be better. Everything else could be better. And at the same time, there's like three or four bad drops in this game to the read one right after the first touchdown. We'll get to that here. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. And so that's why like, like I said, I'm mostly pointing out the pick six and on because the stuff before that was in and out of his control kind of thing so that but like i said i i'm just counting it as good because you saw the bounce back you saw him come back and like yeah we're in this thing i thought that two minute drive before the half was another good because you had to come back and get something on the board good to see braiden nervous and make a kick and uh you know not a long kick but a decently long kick and he
00:15:22
Speaker
He wasn't fading right on anything today. That was above all else. That was the good for me today is that stuff was aimed down the middle and all. So yeah, so that encapsulates my good for the game. Yeah. And I liked, I liked Josh Jacobs and his, what he was doing because he looked, you know, even though he still only had 73 yards.
00:15:49
Speaker
You know, he did get his, his first Packer touchdown. Uh, and I thought he was really running well. Yeah. And, and, you know, even a little bit with Wilson now, we'll, we'll get into it a little bit later with the bad part of it, but just the good side of it was Josh Jacobs was moving. Well, he looked like he was running well, uh, read.
00:16:16
Speaker
You can't, i we'll get into a little bit of him too, but that, that 53 yard, 56 yard or whatever it was, was beauty. You know, Jordan threw it to him. He was basically triple covered and he found the perfect window and, and Reed, uh, uh, you know, nailed it. And I know he tweeted later on and somebody else, I think, was it somebody else said it?
00:16:45
Speaker
But I'm pretty sure Jayden tweeted it. I want to pull up the tweets. He definitely tweeted it because I retweeted it. Fuck it, Jayden down there somewhere. Yeah. Sorry, because I know because I retweeted Jayden's tweet and said this is being socially aware in the positive frame. So but but I also think Collinsworth said it, not Collinsworth, Romo said it.
00:17:11
Speaker
uh during the broadcast that well reads down there somewhere yeah so you know i i know the whole argument has been you know wide receiver one right wide receiver this If you want to get down to brass tacks, Jaden Reed is probably elevating himself to buy a pure stand wide receiver. It is hands down Jaden Reed. like there's duke From a pure production standpoint, you you can't you can' there's no argument to be made right there. I know that Watson's got you know an injury that's not really in his control. Dobbs, that situation, we'll see how that works itself out over the next week or so. We'll talk about that here in
Jaden Reed: Key Receiver
00:17:58
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a minute.
00:17:59
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but Like, you you can't chat can't you can't say much against the what's produced on the field from Reed. Like, most of the big passing plays on the season are Jaden Reed's. And I know that Love or Willis have delivered good catchable balls and stuff, but it's Reed on a lot of, you know, as much as it is a good throw, like, today's one, Reed is the one who ran under that thing perfectly and caught it, like, with heavy traffic in front of him.
00:18:26
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and That's the kind of playmaking. and It wasn't a body catch. yeah What was that? It wasn't a, it was a hand. in what yeah it could It was a hands catch. It wasn't a body. Yeah. So well you you know how a lot of them anymore are, you know, pulling it directly into him. He like reached out yeah and caught that son of a bitch. yeah So I mean, it was a good all around play from the past all the way to the, cause We know Jordan threw it up there. He was basically triple covered. And,
00:19:03
Speaker
so Jordan had to put it in the right spot. Reed had to be in the right spot to make the place. So yeah.
00:19:12
Speaker
Yeah, it was a little bit. Honestly, it was a lit that play not the same same thing, but it was kind of like that fourth down throw love made to that love made to Dobbs in the Chiefs game last season. It was kind of that kind of situation where, know,
00:19:29
Speaker
When you look at the coverage around it, maybe not the best decision by love, but in terms of where that throw had to go, it went to about the only place it could go for there to be a completion on that play. And you know that's why I liken it to that Dobbs play from the Chiefs game last year. so That's my good. And then not directly Packer-related, but I thought Nance was really good on the play-by-play today. Like some of the nuggets he was bringing up, the whole tie-in with, know, they they were saying, you know, they they were showing highlights from Super Bowl I because that was at LA Coliseum. And, you know, he's like, hey, after the craft touchdown, after the Tucker k Craft touchdown, it's like there was a guy with 85 in the Super Bowl I highlights. And now there's a guy wearing 85 with,
00:20:14
Speaker
a pair of touchdowns today. And then he circled back and did the like the Packers are the first team with 30,000 points and stuff. So just, you know, those like filling in the dead space commentary was really good by Nance today. And he's always so good. He's one of the better play by place for my money. Well, and didn't he point something else at about? Yeah. Didn't he point something else out about Tucker where the field that Tucker played on was named after so-and-so player that also caught touchdowns. and Yeah. Well, he was pointing out that... love merlinno no Merlin No, love played at Merlin Olsen Field because that's Utah State's field name. Love. yeah Love. so yeah merle yeah okay Yeah. I knew he said something like that. I was like, yeah okay, that's really interesting. But I also thought that
00:21:11
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I will fully admit I'm very spoiled because I've listened to too many radio broadcasts and I get Larry and Wayne. And those are two of the best guys that you can ever have for any kind of broadcast. So when we have to listen to the national broadcast team, I get very annoyed because it's like, no, I want Larry and Wayne back. When Tony Romo first started, he used to annoy the shit out of me because he got too analytical with his stuff.
00:21:40
Speaker
And listening today, I thought it was a very good broadcast and from both of them. You know, Romo wasn't as in depth with a lot of his stuff. He was more general and, and they showed true bias throughout. And, and so I thought it was a good broadcast. Yep. All right.
Packers' Defensive Struggles
00:21:59
Speaker
All right. I suppose we should talk about the bad. So you want to go first. So you want me to go first.
00:22:07
Speaker
either or. Alright, for my bad, it was it was not a good day for the pass rush and I'm really struggling on what the the the source of this is because these are all guys on this defensive line who to one degree or another have shown to be good one on one pass rushers And I don't know if, and you know and the the whole thing we were sold on with Halfly's defense is this is supposed to be a very like one gap and attack kind of scheme that the whole premise is, you know, there's less reading in react than there was in Barry's scheme. So guys should just be pinning their ears back, you know, not just going wild, but like you have one responsibility and you do whatever you have to do to win that responsibility. And.
00:22:56
Speaker
you know you see plays where like Kenny Clark is just winning off the line of scrimmage on run plays and then you know some people say like oh he missed tackle but I'm like he's winning his gap and if the run goes in a different gap it's like okay like someone else has to win kind of thing but when you watch this team pass rush it's kind of like Does anyone want to get anywhere kind of thing? And Roshan's on, you know, like, and so on one hand, these guys have got to win when it's on them to win a one-on-one matchup. And at the same time, I think Halfly has now, he's approaching that point of where he's trying to do too many things to help generate pass rush because, you know, the the the looping stunts that he sends,
00:23:42
Speaker
edge Cooper on those are great when he sends way up the the A gap, those work really well. But when you do all these like double twists or the kind where you get an end, you get Lucas looping three gaps over kind of thing and stuff.
00:23:57
Speaker
The reason, and I saw it today, was and was it wasn't working today because what did McVeigh do? He knows his O-line is compromised and he's like, we're just, we're getting the ball out quick today. we're We're taking one step on a lot of plays and we're getting the ball out. And so you run these wide loops and it's like,
00:24:14
Speaker
that's never going to get there because by the time Lucas or Brooks or whoever is stunting over that ball's out already and it's like you hopefully get your hand up and then the other problem is the end on the other side he's got to contain because the whole point is that that that twist is that twist action is supposed to win and your other end contains so that the quarterback can't just run away out the other side and so I do think that's part of it, but also, like I said, at the core of it, why is Halfly going to a lot of this? I know some of it is his scheme, but the other part of it is guys just gotta win when they have one-on-one situations. And like I said, for whatever reason, it's just not happening like it was the first two-thirds of the season last year. And that's why it's in my bad for now. And I agree with it.
00:25:06
Speaker
i I know I'm going to sound completely biased saying this. I hate the fact I wish you would have said it more than me, but. There's a big problem when one side of the line seems to be the only one getting into the pocket. And that side of the line has been usually Lucas. Yeah. And that other side of the line has not been getting any. I mean, they get a little bit of push, but.
00:25:36
Speaker
There's not. Rashawn just doesn't. And it's, and I know where you're going. And the thing is, and I was trying to watch that. They still don't play a lot together. Like I don't, I don't even think I counted a handful of snaps where the two of them were on the field together, but the overall point you're making is absolutely correct is you're not seeing this D line have multiple guys, guys win a rep.
00:26:00
Speaker
until like it's late in a game and like whatever like that kind of situation like you know the the Preston the sack where like Preston and Burke split it and Edge also kind of got in there too but like on a down-to-down basis like you know you've got a couple snaps where Lucas is winning you've got a couple where Kenny breaks through or even had the one where Slayton broke through at one point and stuff but it's only ever one guy and it kind of goes back to what I was saying where it's like If there's just a five man protecting, you know, just the O-line is blocking, only one guy's getting double teamed. every Or the center or whoever is a free man, as they call it. Everyone else is getting single blocked. And we're just not winning enough in that type of scenario. And the problem is, is that most of the guys, the only guy who's really not supposed to win is Slayton.
00:26:53
Speaker
Everyone else is supposed to be a better pass rusher than they are a run defender. You can debate, you know, where Lucas is in his development, you know, by, by development standards, he might be a better run defender than he is a pass rusher, but everyone else is supposed to be a better pass rusher than run defender at this point. And they're just not winning enough. and yeah. right And, and it seems like, and like I said, this could be complete bias or whatever.
00:27:21
Speaker
And I know people are going to call it bias and everything else, but it seems like Lucas is the one getting the most double teams when he's out there. And and because I saw it a little bit today where when you would see him have to get pushed all the way around to get back into the pocket.
00:27:38
Speaker
There was usually two blockers right there that he was trying to get around and it's like, okay, well, if he's continuously able to get back there, why isn't the other side getting, whether it's Preston or an Igboray or Rashawn or whoever's on that opposite side.
00:27:57
Speaker
They should be able with the talent, the strength, the power and everything that they have. They should be meeting right there at the quarterback and you're only getting the one side. And this isn't 2014 Stafford where you're worried he might run for 30 yards kind of thing on a given play. Like this is 30 years. Stafford was never a running quarterback anyway. When he was younger though, he would get out and kind of move and scoot a little bit at least. Like he was like, he couldn't move, but it was like a Rogers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was more like Jordan where it's like, Oh, like when he gets up to speed, he is a big guy running with the football kind of thing and stuff. But yeah.
00:28:34
Speaker
i So, like I said, I'm still trying to figure out, you know, I don't have a direct theory of what's really going on with this. And the only thing I can do every week is just cross my fingers and be it like, will this please be the week that they figure their shit out and get it going kind of thing and, you know,
00:28:52
Speaker
You don't know how long Devontae Wyatt is going to be out. And he was one of the guys who was winning a lot of his reps and stuff. And so you've got to... Honestly, Burks is a guy who's kind of disappointed me so far this season because I thought he had really started to establish himself down the stretch of last season. And he's kind of been stuck in the mud a little bit to start this season too. So, um um yeah.
00:29:18
Speaker
Maybe today was his coming out party. Hopefully, I'm hoping so because we did see a lot more of the explosive, decisive play out of him today that you saw last season that you just really weren't getting out of him to start the year so far. What's your bad for the day? And I'm going to... oh Well, I'm going to pile on with you and go with the run defense.
00:29:40
Speaker
They gave up 102 yard rusher in Kyron Williams, which we kind of talked about in the preview that you were going to have to stop him. And and I don't think this is their first hundred yard rusher they gave up. No, but it just seemed like just seemed like no matter what they did, he was still going to get his yards no matter what. Now, I don't know if that was by scheme. I don't know what that was about, but it just seemed like and no matter what they did, especially when it got down to like the third and shorts, no matter what happened.
00:30:17
Speaker
All they had to do was give it to Williams and he was getting his, getting the first down. So yeah, what we kind of pointed out in the preview episode is like Kyra, he's a good player, but he had been really inefficient thus far on the season. I think he came in averaging like three and a half yards per carry. And I put that more on like the Rams O-line situation than on him because he is a talented player. And at the same time,
00:30:40
Speaker
You saw where he's like, his, his ability to create space as a runner came into effect, like the play where it looks like Colby Woodham has a dead to rights in the backfield, and he just shakes him and picks up before that fourth down conversion.
00:30:55
Speaker
know obviously you'd like wooden to be able to make that play but that is a defensive tackle playing in relative space against a court a running back who likes to jump cut and that is a mismatch you know some people don't want to hear it but that is a mismatch i and but i tweeted it and i kind of like called on you know one of those uh cod dead screens you know the tracer rounds work both ways kind of thing and you know, we talk about how important pre-snap motion is for Lafleur's offense, all the things it does to create indecision with the second level defenders. Well, McVeigh is the guy who, you know, he and Lafleur come from the same coaching tree and McVeigh is like, well, I can do some of that too kind of thing. And so that was creating a lot of issues for the Packers defense today. And
00:31:46
Speaker
This is one of those where I'm not concerned about that side of it because Halfly's scheme involves a lot of pre-snaps. You know, they shift a lot. If you look even without the opponent motioning, we do shift a lot right before the snap. You got you see the defensive ends talking to each other. do You see the linebackers pointing things out and stuff like that.
00:32:06
Speaker
so It's not great how it worked today, but but it's like it's something I'm earmarking for later in the season where it's like you play, you know, when we play the 49ers later in the season, we're still having all this issue where like pre-snap motion is creating a lot of natural creases against us or has halfly kind of ironed out a bunch of that. And, you know,
00:32:28
Speaker
you can't just blame it all on the rookies because these guys on the front seven most of those guys are the veteran guys and you know edge got taken advantage a couple times and some of those but for the most part it's a lot of the guys that have been on this roster for two three or more years that were like yeah like can we do something a little more and stuff so yeah not great and my other bad i just have one more is i didn't care for la floor's first half game plan i thought We talked about it on the preview show.
LeFleur's Strategy Critique
00:32:59
Speaker
I said, this Rams team is, you know, depending on who plays first, they're the worst or second worst run defense in the league. And Romo, Romo kept talking about it for so much of the first half of this game. And, you know, Romo was basically begging LeFlore, run stretch zone, run stretch zone, run, put,
00:33:18
Speaker
push any run that runs outside the tackle to test the Rams. Because in opposition to Green Bay, the Rams front seven is where all their youth is. And it's you know the couple of plays where Jacobs creased them early. It was like one guy got out of position. Even on the final the the ah ah clock burning drive, what happened on the first play, one guy jumped the gap over and Jacobs is like, I'll take that cutback lane. Thank you very much. kind of thing and so From my point of view, I said it in the preview, I was like, do the Colts game plan. Like obviously you're not going to do the Malik Willis running part of it, but shove it down their throat and make them stop you from doing it. And that that was the part that I was like, I get that you got to get love in the flow of the game, but at the same time, I'm like, you got to win this game too kind of thing. So I was a little at odds with the game plan early on. I wonder.
00:34:13
Speaker
And you're more the analyst than I am on things, but I wonder if it was to push Jordan a little bit to say, all right, Jordan, this is your second game back from the injury. You need to step up, get your confidence going. Let's let's get you some momentum out there. Yeah. And like I said, that's even more so where I'm kind of like,
00:34:37
Speaker
I get it, your quarterback situation, love coming back, the game he had last week and all that kind of stuff. But even more so it's like, you can do that, but you can also make it easier for Jordan to do that by blitzing the Rams with your run game and excuse me, and That's especially true when like we kind of talked about where where was all the veteran talent on this Rams defense. It's in their secondary. you Most of the names in that secondary, you're like, I know who that is. i I know he's not who he was, but Tradavius White is still a solid player. you know And you can kind of list the names and say, OK, some of these guys are pretty good. And so like I said, that's where it kind of was a give and take for me. But like I said, i'm not it wasn't an ugly for me, but it was like,
00:35:30
Speaker
kind of irritating me through the first half of the game where I was like, Jacob should have 15 carries at halftime of this game. Sure. And I think I just, I think it frustrated everybody. I just wonder if that's what the thought process was is try to carry over from last game where it seemed like Jordan started getting his confidence later in the game to, okay, let's let's go ahead and build on that, Jordan. We need to get you comfortable because we got to go on a stretch run here.
00:35:57
Speaker
I don't know. Like I said, you're more of the analysis than I am on this stuff. But I wonder if that could have something to do with it. I do think... Another...
Halfly's Defensive Tactics
00:36:06
Speaker
I do think to tie it, then there's a... LeFlore does get a little too like over smart. He out smarts himself a little bit. I think, you know, instead of just bringing a baseball bat to this game, he was like, let's try be a little fancy with it. And it maybe almost burnt them a little bit. But luckily they were able to, you know, like I said, love was able to pull out of the nosedive and get back on track.
00:36:31
Speaker
ah ah one of the other bads that I have and luckily this week it's just a bad it's not an ugly long snapping oh you got to wonder if all the issues that we're having with any kind of kicking has to do with the long snapping and that was almost yeah that was so close in the good he okay i won't because that last punt he had was me punting but it was still a fucking mile into the sky at 28 yards or whatever the hell it was but i know the play wouldn't have counted because the refs couldn't figure out what the fuck they were doing but when he snagged that snap with one hand and like
00:37:12
Speaker
I don't, people need to understand, like, a long snap is one of the weirdest things to field in football because footballs all have a downward trajectory when you're catching it. Just by, you know, by the the laws of physics, the only person who has to catch a football that's going upwards is the is whoever's catching a long snap. So please kick the place kick holder and a punter. And trust me, that long snap that Whelan caught with his one hand in the back of the end zone,
00:37:42
Speaker
That ball starts off under your chin and it takes off on you like this in an instant. And for him, like I said, it's even more impressive that he didn't know the play didn't count. That he still went up, reached up, grabbed that bad boy and pulled it in. So, good on Wieland. He continues to do all the things really well that we say he does. But you're right. Orzit, what the
Special Teams Criticism
00:38:05
Speaker
fuck, dude? Like, Jesus Christ. Well, yeah.
00:38:09
Speaker
that play could have been really dangerous because that could have cost them two points and possession. yeah And on top of that, that makes you go through and wonder if most of the issues were have, I don't know about Narvison. Narvison I think is just Narvison, but any of the past problems we've had with kicking, you wonder if it starts right there at the long, and we've questioned that for the last two years, whether it's the long snapper or not. That throws in, okay,
00:38:39
Speaker
can we trust Basaccia now? Because if he's allowing this long snapper to continue go to go out there and idiot fans like us are seeing how bad this longn long snapper is, how is it that this guy who's the highest paid special teams coordinator, how is it this guy that's the assistant head coach can't see that there's an issue with the long snapper? So, and the only reason it's not the ugly part is because Narveson didn't miss anything today.
00:39:12
Speaker
oh Chicken meat egg. So yep. And talking about those ugly. And then... Oh, did you have one more bad? Go ahead. All right. No, I think I'm making an ugly. And talking about ugly, there is one thing that stands above it all for the ugly. Everyone is just going to point to the the end result of it, but we've got to set up the whole thing. So the Packers have third and long because of some pre-snap penalties again have been just
00:39:48
Speaker
and what's really bad about the pre-snap penalties is we're getting them on the stupidest fucking ways we're getting we're we're having wide receivers false starting that should never happen that's coming from someone who played wide receiver and never got called for a false start and he's never had to do up downs for a false start ahla um but so you you're in third and 12 because you know you you have some negative plays uh wicks drops i think he had a drop in there and stuff and then so you have third and 12 you're on your own eight yard line and so
00:40:26
Speaker
I have to watch it again, but I'm pretty sure what LaFleur called was that that rollout throwback screen that we hit on the Bears last year in week one that Jones took up the sideline. I think they were setting up for something like that because you see Jacobs help out to block a little bit and then he starts to go off the bottom of the screen because love is going up relative to the broadcast angle. And Walker,
00:40:54
Speaker
you know he's The way he blocks it, he's kind of like, Jacob's got enough of him. you know like you He follow Byron Young or Jared Vers after the initial action on that play. He kind of like shadows him because he's like he's like, okay, Jacob's got him for a couple seconds. And you can see Rashid kind of looking at him like, that should be good enough kind of thing.
00:41:20
Speaker
And then so Jordan is running away from it and you see him kind of start to turn like he's going to throw that rollback screen. And that's when he goes, oh shit. And then, you know, verse bumps him because he doesn't want to get called for like a roughing the passer penalty. Love bounces off of him. And Jordan said it after the game that at that point he should have just thrown it way over, tucker you know, set his feet and thrown it over Tucker's head or whatever kind of thing. but You're in their own end zone. Your heart is racing at that point. The adrenaline is bursting pipes in your brain. And so Jordan's like, um I can see Tucker. I know Tucker's over there. And so he's just like, I'm just going to huck it over there. Tucker is obviously not expecting the ball. Why I also think it's a screen.
00:42:06
Speaker
And the DB that he can that that Jordan can't see just steps out from behind Tucker and is like, oh, thank you very much. and just And what made it weirder in my point of view is, I don't know if you could hear this, but I thought that play was blown dead because there was something on the broadcast that sounded like a whistle being repeatedly blown during the play.
00:42:31
Speaker
I don't know if it was just on my head, but yeah, it was that whole play just looked so weird. And then the end result made it abominantly ugly. I can't tell you whether or not, because there's half the time that I'll hear whistles and it's like, okay, but they're still playing. What the hell's going on? I don't know if it's all the hits that I've taken to my head. Same here.
00:42:56
Speaker
But that play from just, but yeah, I'll, I'll hear a whistle and I don't know. So yeah, I get you. Um, so I've got a couple of uglies and like I said, Orzic luckily didn't get put into Orzic or whatever the fuck his name is.
Dontavian Wicks' Challenges
00:43:17
Speaker
the first ugly, and I know I'm probably going to get some hate for this, but Dontavian Wicks again.
00:43:24
Speaker
Seven targets, two receptions. And I won't put it all on him, but there are several of them that hit him where he needed it. yeah And it just, there's there's no reason for that. And this makes me go back to preseason when we're all asking, why did he only have one snap the whole preseason?
00:43:53
Speaker
This is why he needed more snaps. Whether he's playing with Jordan, whether he's playing with Pratt, whether he's playing with with Clifford, it doesn't matter. This is why we're seeing I'm going to put it all on him. Now, I did see a tweet earlier that. Somebody posted that, well, and of course, it's a per PFF, which PFF, you know, go screw yourself. I don't really like you too much, but They said that he had a 23.1% drop rate in college and nobody else in that draft class had over a 20% drop rate. So if you knew he had an issue with drops, which if you ask Packer fans based on last year, he didn't have an issue with drops. He was the most dependable guy that you could ever have out there.
00:44:52
Speaker
If he has his own issues with drops, what's the best way to do something with him? Work him, get him the routes, get him the targets, not during regular season, but when you're out there practicing, when you're out there in games that don't matter. So again, seven targets, two catches, that's way too ugly for me.
00:45:20
Speaker
It's rough, it's rough. and yeah like The only thing I can really say for it is you can't, and I know you're not, and I know you're not, but it's at it's frustrating as all hell. Everyone's going to make the Devontae Adams comps and stuff, but I will always take the guy that can get himself open and needs to get better at, you know, more consistent catching the ball than the guy where everything is a contested catch. And maybe he has the greatest hands in the world, but he's just never truly open kind of thing. And like, honestly, yeah you know, everyone's calling out like the deep ball that love through, know, Dusty already did his Zapruder film breakdown of it. I also agree that
00:46:08
Speaker
whether Wix keeps running or if you know how he turned to play it at high point, it's there. You've got to catch that thing, dude. But the one that was worse for me is the one the drive before, where it's second and 12 or 13 again. And then he drops a play. He drops that pass that would have gotten at least half the yardage back.
00:46:29
Speaker
And it's like, that's the one to me that's more important. like yeah the the The deep one would have been great. like That would have obviously set the team up. you You wouldn't necessarily win the game at that point, but you're in really good position to run the clock out on offense kind of thing. But that one on the previous drive where you're trying to eat up clock, eat up clock, keep moving the ball, get yourself in position to kick another field goal or fuck it go for it on fourth down kind of thing that's the one where it's like you gotta convert that play because who knows what happens it goes in the same bin as the one that he dropped on the first drive against Minnesota where it's like you know it's not the perfect throw from love but it's like if he catches that ball it's a first down and probably a touchdown kind of thing and those are the ones that I'm like you know everyone points to clutch time and what you do on the final drive
00:47:20
Speaker
What about the plays that are clutch that keep you out of having to make a last minute play kind of thing and stuff. So like they're all important is what I'm trying to say. And you're right. Like it's got to get better and you just hope it's one of those. It's not one of those. It's got to get worse before it gets worse. You hope that we're in the worst part and it's going to start getting better already kind of thing. But the Dob situation Watson's injury, they're going to need him and they're going to keep throwing love.
00:47:47
Speaker
as he should made it clear, like they trust him and they're going to keep throwing to him. So yeah, it's, it's on Wix to do better. I, I'm going to counter your Devontae argument with Marquez Valdez Scantling. The guy could get open, but he couldn't catch a cold.
00:48:06
Speaker
so more in the the devante one is more in how they get open because ques was just running the fuck by everybody kind of thing and stuff and i know but he still could and even on that front despite all the hair ringing in the regular season ques did show up in the playoffs He did it, you know he was one of the few guys who showed up in that game against the Bucks, and as much as a lot of Packer fans clowned him well he's with the Chiefs, he made a bunch of really clutch plays and stuff, and all that circling back to be like, it's frustrating with Wix, but
00:48:47
Speaker
We've also seen him, you know, his touchdown against the Cowboys, some of the other plays he made over the course of last season. These last two weeks have been really, really rough, but, yeah, like there's time, there's time, but it's, it is frustrating as all hell and it is a fugly situation. So I've got two more uglies.
Packers' Secondary vs Rams
00:49:08
Speaker
The next one is, Packer secondary.
00:49:12
Speaker
Now I don't know if it's as a whole, because obviously McKinney has made our good side of things, but the reason I'm putting it as the ugly, Jordan Whittington, sixth round rookie, had his career day to day with seven receptions on ti targets for 89 yards. They made him look like a, maybe not like a top five receiver,
00:49:40
Speaker
But definitely like a top 10 receiver with the stuff that he was doing. Now, luckily he didn't get the touchdown that went to Robinson, but sixth round rookie. I know they do happen to kind pop out of things. You have the whole Puka thing, but come on guys. Carrington was back, even though he's still kind of hobbling around.
00:50:03
Speaker
Stokes, I really thought Stokes had been playing well so far this year. yeah a He had his moments, but he still played well. What about the rest of them? And I think this is where you kind of noted it already, like your down gyre, Carrington's not a hundred percent, Stokes is These are you know the guys that the Rams have. They're not guys that are necessarily good match-ups for him because Stokes is also a linear speed, vertical player kind of thing. you know He's not a change of direction guy. You saw that on the touchdown that he gave up. And so europe you know you're down one and a half corners at this point. And yes, the Rams are down their top two receivers, but they're still putting three, four receivers on the field. and
00:50:52
Speaker
you know their whatever if guy going forward is still better than our fourth or fifth guy going backwards and it's kind of just how the positions play out and stuff like that so yeah you just hope that them hedging their bets on Jair is going to play out in the long run and i do think they're making the right decision because you know the worst thing you can do is with a quad not so much the quad but the groin is to aggravate that early in the season and then he's out half the year kind of thing and stuff so
00:51:23
Speaker
I think they're making the right move you know and everyone was bitching last year when Jair was trying to play through the back injury and like I said he looked like someone with a back brace trying to like move a refrigerator kind of thing and so I think they're making the pretty move but there's gonna be somebody and especially like I said McVeigh is really good at scheming up these quick pass combinations and stuff and a lot of the slicing days was on that but As you said, you got to put up more resistance and what the secondary outside of McKinney did today. I thought the two rookie safeties played really well today, I thought Bullard. There was a play late on the the Rams last touchdown drive where they threw the crosser, I think it was to Whittington.
00:52:04
Speaker
Bullard is chasing the crosser going the opposite. So, Willington is this guy coming this way. Bullard is coming over the top chasing this other guy across the field and he doubles back and tackles Willington dead in his tracks, which is like one of the hardest plays to make on a football field.
00:52:22
Speaker
And then Williams makes the breakup on the final play of the game. And I thought he had a couple other moments where he acquitted himself. Like he had that one pass breakup on 2-2 at well. So I thought the two of them were bright spots for the secondary today. The safeties were solid, too good. i i just likes i know they were without Right. I know they were without I know Carrington is having his own issues. And Rochelle got her two. Yeah. So seven receptions on 10 targets for Whittington for 89 yards with a 31 long, six receptions, 10 targets for Atwell, 13 targets, seven receptions for park and Parkinson. That's so weird to say because of Parkinson's disease. And then DeMarcus Robinson had five targets five targets with three receptions for 28 and the one touchdown. Now, while that doesn't sound like a tongue,
00:53:19
Speaker
It's the group of players that they are, you know, if this was like last week against the Vikings and you were stopping, you know, Addison and, and Jefferson and Naylor and those guys to where you were holding that to that level, then you could say, okay, well, our, our, so our our backup secondary did their job.
00:53:47
Speaker
But this is basically backup versus backup. And their backups beat out our backups. And that's where it does. everything is Everything is connected. That is where the lack of pass rush is hurting them too. like the This secondary is supposed to be helped by what's, in theory, a very good pass rush. saul But it's still ugly. it's still where The results on the field are still ugly. You said you had one more for ugly.
00:54:15
Speaker
I do. And it's a non game one. And I think you're going to know where I'm going with this one.
Romeo Dobbs' Mysterious Absence
00:54:21
Speaker
It's the whole job situation. Now, granted, we have no clue what's going on. The way it was being portrayed as sounding. Doesn't seem the shoe doesn't right very well. Right. Yeah. Right. But then there's a common and I think it was in the Huber article that They went and checked on, you know, did a wellness check on him. Yeah. Well, that doesn't sound like he's, he's mad about his, whatever his situation. That sounds more like a mental health thing than anything. You know, is he battling something? You know, do we need to be worried about him? Because, you know, we don't want these situations to happen. Right.
00:55:13
Speaker
And even though we want to know what's going on, we don't need to know what's going on. If he's having these issues, give him what he needs. Yeah. Whether it's a team ah ah of mental health providers, whether it's space, whether whatever it is, get it to him, help him out. Now, if it's the other end and Huber and all them are right, where he's pissed off about his role on the team, which none of us are quite understanding because, you know, he's been Jordan loves favorite target since day one. You know, he's what third on the team in reception and and all this other stuff. So that doesn't make sense. Yeah. So it doesn't make sense for that. But then, like I said, that one comment where they had to send somebody over there for a wellness check.
00:56:13
Speaker
That's the concerning part of it. And that's what makes it ugly is this whole situation. Yeah. And I do think the team is handling it the right way. Like da the thing that I keep coming back to is I feel like if it was truly just about like role and disgruntledness and blah, blah, blah, like even LeFlore I think would have been more irritated. And he was kind of like, it was very, you know, he was very like,
00:56:40
Speaker
quiet in his commentary on it, you know, like it it was still the like, we hope he'll be back soon kind of thing and stuff like that. Whereas like, you know, like with, shit, Kylan Hill, LaFleur basically said like, and uh, Mari Rogers kind of to a similar extent, like they haven't, they haven't done the things we expect them to do kind of thing, you know, like he, LaFleur has he's not throwing guys under the bus but he has no problem telling you how it is kind of thing whereas with this Dobbs one which like you said it kind of makes it murkier and I do think Huber is trying to like
00:57:13
Speaker
because you know he's hearing it from a source but he's also trying to like be respectful of the fact that he doesn't for sure know you know exactly what's going on kind of thing and so the thing I'll point to is Ty Dunn I think in the playoffs last year he wrote an article about how Dobbs his whole combine situation was really weird. And for the longest time, you know, it was like, oh, he missed it because he was hurt or he missed, you know, he. And then, but you read the Taidan article. So Dobbs, he says he got some kind of stomach virus or something like that. And he was just so ill that he like slept through all his alarms on the first day, missed a bunch of the like measurements and testing.
00:57:56
Speaker
And then because it's like a medical thing, his agent was like, oh, like, don't tell him, like, just tell him, like, you're you know, like, apologize, blah, blah, blah. But because he was so, like, fucked up from the illness and out of it, like, he missed callbacks, he missed, like, check ins and stuff like that. And so he was kind of labeled as, like, unreliable.
00:58:18
Speaker
know a flake all those kind of things like are there drugs involved, you know, like is he hiding things? is yeah And and The article doesn't go like down this super dark alley. It was more jobs like saying like it was really weird It wasn't at all who I am But like it shows you it teaches you real fast that like this business won't wait for you kind of thing and stuff and it's another one where it like I said it it it just really confuses me as to like the whole what is going on here because if it is a over roll and all that kind of stuff it's like okay like maybe Dobbs is just different than the guy we all thought he was and Bukowski who I know is
00:59:02
Speaker
You know all that, because but Bukowski interviewed Dobbs and Dobbs was the one saying like we all understand what this situation is. We're all good football players. We all understand that there's only one football and we're you know, there's a lot of targets that are getting spread around and stuff and.
00:59:18
Speaker
even Bukovsky kind of said like Dobbs had sort of taken on the identity of being the leader of the receiver room and like hey guys like all for one and one for all kind of things so even more it's kind of like where is this coming from and it's just a it's just a weird situation and so that's why on the like role side of it yes Reed has been the most productive player Watson is maybe the most talented player Dobbs is the trusted guy and you know, that has its, you know, that's the kind of label where it's like, oh, you're kind of the teacher's pet or something like that. But it's like, you know, and so but it's like,
00:59:56
Speaker
he had a de defined role, you know, the the Wix play at the end of the game, everyone's like, if that's Dobbs, Dobbs catches that ball, kind of, you know, and stuff like that. And so it's on the role side, I kind of like mentioned it on Twitter, I was like, it wouldn't be the first time that a player was told one thing by this front office, and it's kind of like, uh, but I'm like, and even that, I don't want to play that card because I don't know what's going on. And like I said, everything that's been said by all these receivers, including Dobbs himself up to this point, doesn't track with that either. So yeah, it's...
01:00:35
Speaker
I put it more in unfortunate, weird, confusing than ugly, but on some level it is ugly because it just came out of nowhere and it really just threw the fanbase for a loop. And of course it's led to a lot of the like stupid parts of the fanbase telling Dobbs, you know, doing all the, he's the least talented, who does he think he is, all that kind of crap and stuff.
01:01:01
Speaker
And then during the game today, right after the love pick six, it's like, oh, maybe Romeo was right. You know, like you saw a lot of those kind of snarky tweets come out and stuff, but yeah, it's, it's just such an odd situation. And like you said, the most important thing is if the stuff that Hubert noted about like them going to check on him and seeing, you know, it's a wellness thing and stuff. And like I said, that's where the tie done thing kind of comes in because, you know, like.
01:01:29
Speaker
Is he so in his head about something that you know he just needs help processing or whatever kind of thing? Like you said, get him that help, but we'll see. you know Like I said, this week, if he's back at practice this week, that's going to answer, not answer questions, but you know it's going to show that the situation is not in as dark a place as a lot of people went to off the bat when they read the the Huber article kind of thing. So you know all eyes on practice on Wednesday and we'll see where it goes from there.
Media's Role in Dobbs' Narrative
01:02:00
Speaker
Well, and there's a couple of points that I want to reach on and and then we can kind of wrap it up. But I, somebody pointed out that, you know, how they always have photos of the players when they're deboarding the plane and, and, and stuff like that. I can't remember which player was, but was wearing a mental health awareness type sweatshirt. Yeah. When I say it was Brooks. And that really put the, yeah. Yeah. That really pushed the rumor mill.
01:02:29
Speaker
on it and that makes you wonder a little bit about it too. But what kind of moves us to ugly for me? And it's kind of the issue that I have with any press organization type writer, you know, all that is they all have to vie to be the first one to put it out. And Huber immediately put it out with that wording with that stuff. Knowing he had to know.
01:02:59
Speaker
that that's what the fan base would turn to. Oh, well, now he's being a diva player. Now he's doing this. Now he's doing that. Instead of saying, Hey, there's an issue going on with Dobbs. We don't know the full extent of it. He's not with the team. This is what's going on. He had to be the first one out. Well, you know, Romeo is, is not happy with the situation. We don't know what's going on. Did you talk to Romeo?
01:03:27
Speaker
Well, obviously not because nobody's talked to Romeo. Oh, I mean, that's what puts it as ugly for me. And the problem is, is that's when you start getting the Antonio Browns of the situation yeah is because the, that starts pushing these players to do these weird ass things because of pressure because of Riders turning fan bases against players and you know, they don't attention. A lot of them don't intentionally push fans away, but but wording it in certain ways pushes that part of fan bases against players. Like you said, you had a lot of them that, Oh, well he's a Devo. Well, what the hell's going on with this? Oh, you know, we don't need him anyway. Oh, you're not that good anyway.
01:04:22
Speaker
What do you think that player see if he's having a mental health issue right now and he's seeing half the fan base destroying him on social medias? What do you think that do that does for him? Nothing good. So that's what puts it. Yeah, that's what puts it as ugly for me is just the rush to try getting a story out. Demonize the whole situation.
01:04:48
Speaker
And if he's having a mental health thing, the worst thing you can do is demonize it. And, and that's where I put Bill Huber at fault is get your information straight. Don't come out with a hit piece. And it's not an intentional hit piece, but a hit piece saying, Oh, well, he's not happy with this. You don't know that you don't know the whole situation. Your source doesn't know the whole situation. Nobody knows the whole situation except for.
01:05:18
Speaker
Romeo Dobbs. Yep, so... Okay, I think I can get off my soapbox. Yeah, like I said, we're gonna find out a lot about where this situation stands, what kind of waters it's in with. If Dobbs is back at practice on Wednesday, if he's back at practice on Wednesday, you know, not that everything is perfect or fixed or anything, but like I said, that'll be a sign that things were, you know, worked out to some degree and not as bad as it was, you know, you know, not as bad as the worst places your mind took you when you read the Huber article went and stuff. So well, you know, i'll all eyes on Wednesday. So we'll see what happens with
Episode Wrap-up & Promotions
01:05:59
Speaker
that. But most important, the Packers won. As much as we spend a lot of time on the bad and the ugly, the Packers did win this game.
01:06:09
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I don't even want to say they did enough. I think they did a lot of good things today. They just had to dig themselves out of a hole that they put themselves in. And it wasn't just the like, oh, they barely scored 24 points kind of thing. Like they, they actually were in control of this game midway through the fourth quarter. And then they kind of were like, oh, I think that's good enough and that it wasn't good enough and stuff. So,
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01:08:39
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Packers are coming off a win. I know some will say it otherwise, but Packers are three and two right back in the race for the playoffs. And it's time for them to just keep making steps in the positive direction. We'll be back on Thursday with our preview of the Cardinals. Go Pack Go and Aloha.