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OPE Season 3 Episode 7 We Made it Extra Sloppy For Ya
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Aloha and welcome to another episode of OPE! This week we battle through Mike's internet issues to try and break down the slop fest of a loss in the Packers week 1 contest vs the Eagles. We try to talk about the good, the bad and the ugly. Also, we have another edition of our latest segment Shut the F**K up!
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Intro
Introduction and General Reflections
00:00:31
Mike __kawanomike_
Aloha and welcome to a rather down episode of the Ohana Packers Edition podcast. I'm trying to look for the right word as we're not thrilled with the news, but also it's not the total down in the dumps outcome it could have been. But Joe, we're in a rather sedated state of mind following that Friday night game. You know, it's one thing to lose the battle, but you can't lose the war at the at the outset of the season as well. and Luckily for the Packers, it looks like they've done that, but it's been a rather overall shitty weekend of football for the two of us. How are you doing today?
00:01:07
iowa_joe
Oh, it's just been a shitty weekend period. I think both of us are down because of both the Packers and our college teams. And here I was thinking I was going to come in today and be all like, at least Iowa won.
00:01:22
iowa_joe
And yeah, that didn't happen.
00:01:22
Mike __kawanomike_
Ha! Ha!
00:01:27
iowa_joe
But I don't think I'm taking it like everybody else's just because if you go back an episode or two when we were doing our our predictions for the season, this one I kept saying I tossed back and forth between win or loss and I finally settled on loss.
Game Analysis and Challenges
00:01:48
iowa_joe
And and I think most of the reasons why I was saying it was going to be a loss came true. The conditions in the international field sucked. The players were shaking off a shit ton of rust. The refs were making it the ref show instead of the Packers versus the Eagles. And I'm not just saying they were, they were killing the Packers on it. They were killing both sides with, because it just seemed like they can neither team to get through a play without a flag being thrown.
00:02:22
iowa_joe
Uh, you know, and I, I said from the start, I wish it would have been a different team. The Packers faced in week one because I knew with this being a new defense and everybody still trying to learn on things that you didn't want to face this Eagles offense. And yeah, so everything that I figured was going to happen ended ended up happening.
00:02:53
iowa_joe
I didn't figure on the love injury, but luckily it's not as bad as a lot of people feared with it. And I know the report has been he's likely to miss three weeks and Mike just dropped out again. But there is a possibility that he's he could come back sooner because they're not sure what type of You know, they're not sure what grade of MCL strain it is. Rappaport says it's between a grade one, grade two. Well, that can mean a whole lot of things. You know, a grade one injury, he could be back within a week. A grade two injury, you know, you're looking at maybe four weeks. It, it, it all just depends on, you know, I don't want to make this sound like comic books, but healing factor and, and, you know, how well, you know,
00:03:50
iowa_joe
how much of a damage it was.
Injury Concerns and Medical Issues
00:03:53
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:03:53
iowa_joe
Did it look good? Hell no, it didn't look good. I mean, you saw the knee moving around all over the place. And of course you feel the worst, fear the worst, but then you think about it.
00:04:04
iowa_joe
Well, you know, technically a knee is supposed to do that to keep you from getting severely injured because it's got to be able to have a little bit of movement in it. Otherwise you're risking severe injuries when it comes to getting hit below the belt. i I will say this and I'm not a rules expert by any means. I'm not an analyst by any means. I kind of agree with fellow Oat Network member Brian Rego that I thought they were trying to put an emphasis on the up down blocks or I mean, not blocks, up down hits. And I get that Jalen Carter was on the ground.
00:04:46
iowa_joe
But at the same time you have, I can't remember who else the other guy was that made the hit, but they were hitting at the same time. And I thought they were trying to get rid of that on a quarterback level. So you would think with all the penalties that they called already throughout the frigging game, that would be one of them. I mean, there were a lot of calls that they didn't make and it's like, well, you just called that like five minutes ago, but you're not going to call it now.
00:05:15
iowa_joe
And let's just face it, that field was shit. I don't care what kind of spin you put on anything. I think Nagler was trying to do some damage control where, well, it's the same type of turf that they already use Lambeau Field and they already use it at Lincoln.
00:05:35
iowa_joe
what What's the Eagles? It's Lincoln Financial.
00:05:37
Mike __kawanomike_
financial, Lincoln Financial.
00:05:40
iowa_joe
Yeah. Yeah. So I mean,
00:05:45
iowa_joe
But I've never seen, yeah outside of like Soldier Field, I've never seen a field be so torn up. And if it was the same conditions and the same thing that they're used to at Lambo, why did it take them so long to figure out how to play on it? And even when they did play on it, they were still struggling with it. All right, I rambled enough.
Field Conditions and Their Impact
00:06:11
Mike __kawanomike_
that's my job but no I totally agree with regards to the field I think Dara character he he sent that video out where it looked like a shot put field where in the end zone where you just had chunks of the turn the paint missing all over the place and you know that's the thing with you know when they play these international games is it's always football or soccer fields where you know they they can say all they want about oh they stitch the turf and blah blah blah and all that kind of stuff and they there's athletics that's played on it but it's a totally different spot it'd be one thing if it was a rugby field i would i would feel much better if they played on a rugby field because you've you've got the scrums and you know the field is it's graded for that kind of physical activity but you know soccer field they're running they're just running no one is supposed to hit forget
00:07:01
Mike __kawanomike_
forget you know drive into each other no one's supposed to even touch each other on a soccer field with how they play especially the international men's leagues and once you have yes exactly right
00:07:10
iowa_joe
And they are meant to slide around on that field. I mean, how many games do you watch on on a football or a soccer game where they're already sliding around on the field?
00:07:19
Mike __kawanomike_
right exactly that's their whole celebration if they skid on their knees for like 20 yards or or 15 meters to stay with the europeans but yeah so we saw it all game and i do think it i think it makes a difference i
00:07:19
iowa_joe
It's meant to be that way.
00:07:34
Mike __kawanomike_
I'm not an expert but just looking at it you can kind of tell that their grass is longer like that's how you get that kind of more sheen and slidable surface is you have just longer blades of grass and so that's one side of it and then you could see it all game where it it looked like how a fairway looks like after I'm done with it you know after I've done my work on on a golf fairway so Yeah, just not good conditions. And it just went into, like you said, that and then the referees turning it this into a ref show. It just took away any sort of flow to this game. It it was just such a choppy
Referee Decisions and Their Consequences
00:08:15
Mike __kawanomike_
experience. And you're already working through, you know, it's a Murf-tastic week one, as they call it, you know, in in in honor of Murphy's Law and how everything goes out the window in a week one.
00:08:26
Mike __kawanomike_
and and all that said the Packers had I you know some people argue the legitimacy of it but I say they left 15 points on the field in the first quarter and every above everything else that's what bit them in the ass most at the end of this game we're flying by the seat of our pants on this one a little bit because this you know it's week one and in honor of week one we're just going where by our hearts desire on how we feel like uh covering things but we'll try to get with a little more structure we'll go with our usual offense defense but you know the overall structure of how this game one this game one deserves discussion in terms of just how really you know
00:09:08
Mike __kawanomike_
The NFL can talk about outreach and wanting to see you know wanting the game to be seen by different fans and stuff, but this looked like it was played in a place where no one had inspected the field conditions, no one knew what the the amenities were like. and you know Some people were kind of giving Ed Warder shit after the game because he tweeted about the you know the process for love to get examined after the game. And then he deleted the tweet. But there was a lot of fact in what he said where it's like, at an NFL stadium, there's an x-ray machine. There's a hospital that's usually right near it. And you you know you go from x-ray, if x-rays are negative, then you kind of you know do a further determination from there.
00:09:53
Mike __kawanomike_
or depending what the x-rays do then you have a different flowchart but because this is an international game because the facilities are different than what an and your average NFL stadium has you know it's like okay you do like the you know the the physical there are the those touch feel i forget what the name of the test is but the one where they push the the upper and lower leg together. And if it moves a certain way, it's a pretty, you know, my brother, other doctors say it's like an 80% plus sign that the ACL is or isn't torn kind of thing. But it's not as clear as an MRI. And
00:10:33
Mike __kawanomike_
you know some people were kind of poo-pooing Ed for tweeting and deleting it. I think Ed, my personal opinion is Ed deleted it because there were some grammatical and spelling errors in it but I don't think he was kind of pissing on the Brazilians or anything.
00:10:42
iowa_joe
Uh oh, mic dropped again.
00:10:45
Mike __kawanomike_
I think he was just saying like in the NFL we might have a better idea of what's going on because we would have had
00:10:46
iowa_joe
Sorry folks, Mike is having internet problems, so we're doing our best to get through this episode.
00:10:52
Mike __kawanomike_
a certain battery of tests done whereas for love and the packers it was like okay shower go do some post-game press conference shit and then you're getting on the plane within an hour kind of thing and it's like now you gotta fly home and who knows if that thing's gonna balloon on you in the air so yeah yeah it's just a matter of
00:10:56
iowa_joe
Now I wish I had the Jeopardy theme playing.
00:11:10
iowa_joe
Okay, now he's back.
00:11:14
Mike __kawanomike_
you know it's a matter of hope you just hope that it went well and from what we're you know we're two days post game it sounds like the injury wasn't as bad as we thought it was and i'm assuming that the swelling wasn't as bad as it could have been based on what they're you know they're saying from a recovery standpoint and perhaps that's why they're not sure if it's a grade one or a grade two and why they're waiting to do more testing because there probably was some swelling from being on that 10 plus hour flight you got to wait for that swelling to go down before you can really get in and use the MRI to see and stuff but I think on top of it a big part of it is just going to be how comfortable love can get with the injury and what is pain tolerance is going to be so
00:11:58
Mike __kawanomike_
we'll We'll just kind of go through and see with how he's going to push himself, how the Packers are going to treat
Long-term Team Strategy and Player Performance
00:12:04
Mike __kawanomike_
it. I know the Packers are going to be pretty conservative because this is the guy that you stake your future on, you know, the next four to 10 years of your franchise on.
00:12:14
Mike __kawanomike_
So you've got to, as much as you want to compete this season, you've got to be smart with the long-term picture here. So I bet that came through.
00:12:24
iowa_joe
Well, what I'll say is this.
00:12:26
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah
00:12:28
iowa_joe
Yeah, that had Mario arrived again. so the one thing that makes me not as concerned with the injury, there's a couple of things.
00:12:39
iowa_joe
One, yeah, they helped him off the field. He was sitting down, but that was before they knew any kind of had any kind of idea of what was going on with it.
00:12:49
iowa_joe
But he walked to the locker room. He walked out of the locker room carrying his bags. He walked up the plane stairs. He walked down the plane stairs all carrying his bags. If they were worried that it was a severe injury, that kid wouldn't be walking.
00:13:06
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:13:08
iowa_joe
he would he wouldn't
00:13:09
Mike __kawanomike_
I know that, you know, we don't know what the...
00:13:10
iowa_joe
There's no way he would be walking.
00:13:13
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, exactly.
00:13:13
iowa_joe
Yeah, you dropped out again, so I was kind of talking over you.
00:13:15
Mike __kawanomike_
Fuck. Not enough.
00:13:17
Mike __kawanomike_
You're good.
00:13:19
iowa_joe
But yeah, he wouldn't be carrying his stuff. He wouldn't be walking the stairs. Uh, I know when I initially did my injury, you know, it seems like a hundred years ago when I went to the doctor, they immediately strapped on a knee brace and said, you're not moving this without this knee brace. I said, okay. Well, if that was a case with love, then, you know, there, they wouldn't have let them do as much as they did. The other thing is,
00:13:47
iowa_joe
They let them immediately get on the flight after the game. I don't know about you. I'm not a doctor. I know I'm not a doctor, but the one thing I know for sure is if you're suffering an injury like that and you've got massive swelling going on in a leg and there's any kind of concern for a major injury, they're not putting you on a flight because that altitude change is going to cause a lot of issues. And It can cause blood clots, it can cause everything in the world, and you're risking severeity severity as far as death when it comes to that.
00:14:23
iowa_joe
Well, that tells me right there they're not as concerned with it because they're not going to risk his life to put him on an airplane to get him right back to Green Bay.
00:14:26
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:14:30
Mike __kawanomike_
I think i think you know people were kind of saying about how, oh, LaFleur said we're very concerned.
00:14:31
iowa_joe
so
00:14:35
Mike __kawanomike_
It's like, that's the guy that you just tied your franchise to for you know five years to a decade kind of thing. Of course, you're going to be very concerned when any sort of twisted knee injury, twisted knee lower leg injury happens.
00:14:46
Mike __kawanomike_
So yeah. i i think And I think the whole, like, we just don't know is kind of, like I said, going towards, you know, Rappaport, Schefter not having anything word or making comments about how in a U.S. NFL stadium we would go we would know you know 5, 15, 30 minutes after because of what facilities are available at each stadium we would know what they would have done and therefore we would have an idea of okay the x-ray was negative they you know and then on top of that you would have you know
00:15:18
Mike __kawanomike_
did he go to the a Did he go to the ambulance to take him to the nearest hospital already? Do they have an MRI at the stadium? You know, there's there's just different available options and stuff, so I agree.
00:15:29
Mike __kawanomike_
I think they...
00:15:30
iowa_joe
I would, and in in my opinion, I would think with them being a professional soccer stadium, you know the didn't they host like the World Cup not too long ago?
00:15:43
Mike __kawanomike_
Something like that, yeah.
00:15:44
iowa_joe
or Or some shit like that. You would think they would have those facilities because of those reasons. you know you're having And it's not just for the NFL side of it, but if you're You're bringing in international teams for even for soccer, football, whatever the hell you want to call it. They're not going to be able to fly straight home after it at a game to be able to do it. They're going to need to do it right there. On top of that, we're still looking at it from the US perspective on medical care.
00:16:20
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah
00:16:20
iowa_joe
I'm, you know, not to get political and I try to stay political out of it, but I'm willing to bet Brazil has pretty decent medical facilities down there that I'm not too, it's not like they're in the middle ages that they're going to have to take the leg if they can't figure it out.
00:16:35
Mike __kawanomike_
yep yeah like you said main thing is that main thing is that he got on a plane for a 10 hour flight
00:16:36
iowa_joe
You know, oh I think we're good on that. the
00:16:44
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:16:45
Mike __kawanomike_
and he was allowed to go home after that so yeah that's the that's the big sign but love aside sounds like it's about his best case scenario after you know
00:16:47
iowa_joe
yeah
00:16:57
Mike __kawanomike_
can't say he you know obviously the absolute best case scenario is he doesn't get hurt but with the injury with any sort of injury it sounds like the pack readers and love dogs a massive massive bullet and you know it's the like tom pelisauer is reporting it sounds like he'll be back on the shorter end of that three to six week window even potentially shorter than that three week window so we'll see
00:17:22
iowa_joe
I was gonna say, I'm gonna make the prediction that that it's gonna be, he'll be back in two weeks.
00:17:30
Mike __kawanomike_
He pushes for that Minnesota game.
00:17:31
iowa_joe
I think he'll, well, I don't even think it's him pushing.
00:17:32
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, I think so too. I really do.
00:17:37
iowa_joe
I think they're gonna tell him, all right, stay off of it for a week. We'll reevaluate you at the end of the week. And then he'll immediately go into the injury rehab and
00:17:46
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:17:47
iowa_joe
Now that's, of course that's withstanding there, you know, they get them through and McKinsey, I think it's still Dr. McKinsey up there, takes a look at it and says, all right, well, yeah, we're pretty sure it's not as severe as we worried and all that stuff.
00:17:54
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, it is.
00:18:01
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah so Jordan get your get your Jordan get your board shorts ready you're gonna spending a lot of time in the rehab pool yeah oh
00:18:04
iowa_joe
So two weeks.
00:18:11
iowa_joe
Definitely. And I would offer you my MCLs, but they're probably even worse than
Merchandise Promotion and Game Plan Critique
00:18:15
iowa_joe
what you've got right now.
00:18:16
Mike __kawanomike_
no but so the Packers okay like we said they left a lot of points on the field it wasn't the cleanest game offensively
00:18:16
iowa_joe
so
00:18:29
Mike __kawanomike_
Again, it's one of those where I had a few critiques about how Loflor called the game. I thought his play calling was a little jagged here and there at times. I thought he was oddly reliant on the run game when it was pretty easy to tell that the run game had no traction.
00:18:39
iowa_joe
Oh no, Mike dropped out again.
00:18:46
iowa_joe
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00:18:47
Mike __kawanomike_
Love was a little out of rhythm early. and I wish that he had spent a little more time getting love back in rhythm, but, you know, kind of, oh no, have I dropped out again?
00:18:56
iowa_joe
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00:19:07
iowa_joe
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00:19:15
Mike __kawanomike_
at least a better router but yeah so but so when i got cut out we're talking about you know game plan wise it's always hard to tell and this is gonna be the i feel like this is gonna be the story of this podcast is i wasn't super thrilled with la floor's game plan i thought that you know he tried to
00:19:20
iowa_joe
Something like that.
00:19:39
Mike __kawanomike_
stick with things that weren't working early and you know to an extent he was proven right that the run game was going to gain traction but I thought that he was slow to adjust to things like you know running left a little more as the game went on and you saw more success running behind Rashid and Rashid Walker and Elton Jenkins I thought that you know they he didn't he I thought he could have done more to get love in a rhythm But yeah, I just felt like it was a little bit more banging your head against the wall than you wanted to see from the floor. But how how did you feel about the game plan this week?
00:20:17
iowa_joe
On the offensive side, well, let me preference this with this. And I know we just got done talking about the field and we got done talking about this. I think you need to throw the game film out on the on this game. Just throw it out completely because there's no way you can gauge anything because the minute they started having problems with their footing on the field, they all started playing more conservatively.
00:20:41
iowa_joe
So that meant things weren't gonna play out the way that they wanted them to play out. Jordan was throwing way weirder than he normally, you know his mechanics went out the window. But if you look at it, he kept having problems getting his footing down. So he had to adjust to a way that was gonna allow him to throw the ball.
00:21:01
iowa_joe
the receivers kept falling because they couldn't they kept sliding out of their brakes and The run game. Yeah, josh jacobs didn't look good there for the beginning How much of that is because a the linemen couldn't get their fitting and run blocking? Or footing and run blocking and b he couldn't get his footing and and running So and i'm going to say the same thing for the defensive side as many times as these people as people on twitter and other socials were calling out like Jair and all that you can't you really can't because they even the Eagles were struggling with their footing on a lot of things and you can't gauge anything off of it because it it's kind of like
00:21:50
iowa_joe
playing in the rain or playing in in the extreme cold in the snow and that, or the extreme wind or anything like that. You can't gauge anything off of it because everything that you plan for is out the window. So with that said, I really can't say the floor's game plan was horrid. Would I like to see some different things? Yeah, maybe, but, uh,
00:22:19
iowa_joe
for everything that you say against Josh Jacobs, then you look at what Emmanuel Wilson did and site, you know, which side do you look at it? Because for Jacobs, the, the run blocking didn't look good, but then you look for Emmanuel Wilson and man, he's ripping off 10, 15 yard runs on a couple of different drives.
00:22:36
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah And I think that one
00:22:38
iowa_joe
So I mean, it's, it is what it is.
00:22:42
Mike __kawanomike_
and I think that one was more a function of one guy didn't play in the preseason and one guy played in the preseason and like Wilson is in a rhythm with not all of that because he didn't play with that O-line very much but he's at least in a rhythm of seeing reps and seeing blocks develop and stuff whereas as Jacob's yeah he's got practice reps but practice reps can only take you so far like you've got to see
00:22:44
iowa_joe
Go for it.
00:22:50
iowa_joe
Right.
00:22:54
iowa_joe
Uh oh, Mike froze again.
00:23:06
Mike __kawanomike_
a defense that isn't your you know isn it your team's defense who's playing you a specific way and stuff. So I think that's part of it. and the first half you look at like seven of nine seven of the nine touches jacob's head there was someone in his face when he got the ball and so it's the same thing and you know part of those were bad blocks part of those were just guys slipping trying to get to blocks and half of and part of it too was the eagles just blitzed the shit you know they guys were like if we see run the linebackers and i do think this is a function of how
00:23:44
Mike __kawanomike_
the ad their linebacker Corey is that they basically told their guys, if you feel like it's a run, just go like it's just just go and we'll deal with the consequences of it. So, and the most encouraging thing is that Jacobs and the run game did pick it up in the second half and he turned in what overall was a pretty efficient day on the ground.
00:23:54
iowa_joe
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00:24:06
iowa_joe
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00:24:07
Mike __kawanomike_
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00:24:11
iowa_joe
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00:24:18
Mike __kawanomike_
Joe's gonna fly solo pretty soon, so... Yeah, yeah so... the run game I thought it picked up as the game went on I think kind of to what you were saying Joe is that they seem to figure things out as the game went on it's it it is just it it's like playing a bad weather game on this kind of tariff war you just can't trust what your footing is you can't trust that you know you take a three-step route you can't trust that any of those three steps are going to be good that your foot's not just going to give out on you when you try to cut so
Red Zone Struggles and Technique Analysis
00:24:51
Mike __kawanomike_
I mean, Dontavion Wicks, that was his game through like three quarters of Friday night where yeah he had one where yeah have the one drop where he's wide open but he slips coming out of the break and you know as he's trying to turn around and look for the ball, he's trying to regain his footing and just, you know,
00:25:09
Mike __kawanomike_
It's just unfortunate. it really just je in Even that one miss to Watson in the end zone where Watson, he's he's going around Gardner Johnson and his foot slips a little bit and then Love throws the ball a little wide because he's trying to make sure he clears the defender.
00:25:29
Mike __kawanomike_
and Watson doesn't have the footing to kind of jump you know to die for the ball and you know the that timing is just off and I tweeted it during the game is that Yes, it's frustrating. it's It's not what you want to see that the red zone offense isn't there, but you combine the lack of reps in preseason games with the bad field conditions. Everything about the red zone is execution, execution, execution, or someone on the opposing team making a mistake. The Eagles didn't make enough mistakes that the Packers could take advantage of. And when the Packers had plays to be made,
00:26:03
Mike __kawanomike_
they just couldn't execute. you know And to me, that's something that I, obviously it sucks for this, the context of one game, but I can live with it because it's something that I do expect will improve as the season goes on. So I'm not, there's nothing on offense that I'm overly discouraged with. Let's put it that way. And then same thing with Love's technique, like you said, he slipped like he did on that fourth down play against the Saints in Lambeau last year.
00:26:33
Mike __kawanomike_
And you could tell he just didn't trust his footing after, after that point in the game. And, you know, everyone's like, why is he throwing so back footed? Why is he doing this? I said, he just doesn't trust that he can step and drive the ball.
00:26:46
Mike __kawanomike_
And if you can't do that as a quarterback, you're going to start making concessions.
00:26:48
iowa_joe
Pretty much.
00:26:51
Mike __kawanomike_
So, yeah. it's, it's yeah.
00:26:53
iowa_joe
Well, and that's like the offensive line. If you're not going to trust your feet and you're blocking, you've got to you got to change it up a little bit. and it just you and And I know people are going to say, well, the Eagles seem to be able to figure it out.
00:27:07
iowa_joe
Yeah, but they were struggling with it too. How many of their guys slipped and fell?
00:27:09
Mike __kawanomike_
They did, too. like Yeah, exactly. And the the the way we'll put a cap on it, the thing that proved how dumb this field was is the fact that Malique will listen. I don't think he was going to throw a Hail Mary that was going to be completed. But he gets sacked on the final play of the game because he slips trying to buy time in the pocket. And that... that encapsulated the whole night and why I think all of these international games on soccer pitches are just stupid like because you have a guy who's you know not been out there the whole night he comes in for like his second play of the game and what does he do slips almost fall down gets sacked and that was the story of it so like you said
00:27:57
Mike __kawanomike_
it was you know It was frustrating that we couldn't see the whole game plan come to fruition. It was really frustrating to see. oh I'll never understand what the hell happened on what should have been the team's first touchdown of the the regular season.
00:28:11
Mike __kawanomike_
The Packers were obviously trying to run hurry up. I don't understand who came on the field and caused Green Bay to have, you almost never see 12 men on offense. That that one just.
00:28:21
iowa_joe
No, that that's where you missed it. They didn't, he wasn't running onto the field. They were trying to get Musgrave off at the same time as one of the Eagles was going off. And Musgrave just missed getting off the field at the same time as I, it was more love was trying to do it, but he wasn't aware of where his guy was compared to where the Eagles player was.
00:28:43
Mike __kawanomike_
right And all I'm saying is that that's that just it's another sign that it's like early in the season because For love to be trying to go hurry up when they're obviously changing personnel on offense the refs who were So wanting to be in the spotlight.
00:29:00
Mike __kawanomike_
What was what has been one of the
00:29:01
iowa_joe
You got no shit.
00:29:03
Mike __kawanomike_
what has been one of the recent points of emphasis is the whole like, if the offense subs, the ref comes and he stands right in front of the quarterback and is like, you cannot snap the ball. And so like, I tweeted it, there was like four different things about that play where I'm kind of like, how did this even allow to be a play that you know was a double penalty it kind of like it it that play just broke my mind in like seven different ways because of how the mechanics of it shouldn't have even have allowed the snap to get off kind of thing so yeah it it was just one of those where you're kind of just like oh so it's gonna be a dumb game like that kind of night so and so that play
00:29:41
iowa_joe
Well, this is how you can tell. This is how you can tell the refs were really deciding things. The main refs or the head refs voice went out. That right there tells you that he was talking way too damn much.
00:29:58
Mike __kawanomike_
That's absolutely true. But that that Jaden Reed touchdown that got taken off the board and Malik Willis slipping on the final Hail Mary attempt, those two plays tell the whole story of what this game was all about.
Player Highlights and Physicality Needs
00:30:11
Mike __kawanomike_
And I know there's not a whole lot of analysis. but The analysis part of this game is so Jaden Reed is still a weapon. And to kind of get into that article, I wrote about who's the Packers number one receiver.
00:30:24
Mike __kawanomike_
Friday night, Jaden Reed was the number one receiver because he was the guy with the mismatch. The Eagles didn't have a guy who after you had Dobbs, Watson, a tight end, you know, whether it was Kraft or Musgrave, Reed was the guy that it's like, we're going to stick someone on him and someone couldn't cover him. And that's the, that's the that is the the boom that LaFleur has to work with.
00:30:49
Mike __kawanomike_
And I while I do think that they have guys who could be a bona fide number one wide receiver what the Packers have that is their gold at their golden ticket is they have a bunch of these guys who are all mismatched potential mismatch opportunities and You know hope love can come back but that's the kind of thing that can make for the floor to make a easier game plan for Willis in the weeks moving forward is that you have all these different guys who can do so many different things and it's like you just have to get the ball to them and stuff so and then
00:31:27
iowa_joe
The one thing I would love for these guys to do a little bit more, and I think that's why I like Malik Heath a little bit more than some of the other ones. I mean, not that he has more talent than Reston, but the one thing that I like about Malik Heath that I'm seeing missing from the other guys is the fight. Now, yeah, Jaden Reid will fight after the catch or anything, but I can't remember who I saw on Twitter that was talking. It could have been Bukowski, and I hate saying that I agree with Bukowski on anything.
00:31:59
iowa_joe
but he was diagnosing the, uh, one play where everybody said that it should have been called pass interference against Christian Watson towards the end zone.
00:32:12
iowa_joe
And while I agree, it should have been called had Christian been a little bit more physical and tried to turn back towards the ball a little bit more and initiated more of that content.
00:32:18
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:32:21
Mike __kawanomike_
that you got You gotta, you gotta create.
00:32:24
iowa_joe
Yeah. So I,
00:32:28
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:32:28
iowa_joe
No, no, I yeah, you got to create it and That's just one thing a lot of these guys don't tend to do and I wish that was more of an emphasis With our receiving core is yeah You want them to be blockers and a lot of them are great, you know solid blockers for wide receivers but they also have to be a little bit more physical when it comes to the point of catch so had he been a little bit more physical at that point and
00:32:52
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:32:56
iowa_joe
You're damn right. I almost guarantee the flag would have been through.
00:32:59
Mike __kawanomike_
Because Mitchell has, he's got a fistful of his jersey.
00:33:01
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:33:02
Mike __kawanomike_
And as much as they're like, say, you know, yeah even Blackledge had to like pull back on it a little. He's like, oh, you know it's good coverage. And then when they show the one angle from the end zone, you hear Blackledge kind of like tailed off on his on his commentary on it.
00:33:16
Mike __kawanomike_
Because he's kind of like, oh, well, I didn't see that from the from the sideline angle kind of thing.
00:33:21
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:33:22
Mike __kawanomike_
And and I know the other play was car Brandon Carwell was saying on the the interception over the middle of the field is it's like he's like Musgrave's gotta draw a flag on that play because as much as it's a nice play by Bond to run under the route he's not looking for the ball and if you're Musgrave you've got to jump in a way that's gonna that he you've got to jump or stop your body and like you know like stick your hands out like Gumby like hey man like I can't get to the ball because I know where it is but this guy ran straight through my spine kind of thing and
00:33:58
Mike __kawanomike_
it's unfortunate because it's two guys Musgrave and Watson who we've had a lot of discussions about in that regard where it's like I don't question their heart but it is the like and I don't want to put even the word desire on it because I know they want to make the play and stuff like that but it is that that savvy to be like okay yeah I think I can catch this ball but I want to make sure that it turns positive in our favor no matter what And it's like, we've seen Jordy do it. We saw Devontae do it for years. Hell, we saw Finley draw flags where it's just like, he might not have had a chance in hell at catching the ball, but it's like he felt someone grab something and he's like, oh my God. like
00:34:42
Mike __kawanomike_
been shot in the middle of the field kind of thing and I'm not saying to like totally abandoned going for the ball but those two plays in particular are ones where it's like you had a chance and if you made a little bit more of it like you you I don't want to even say effort but you sold like you're trying so hard to get the ball but this guy is stopping me from doing it you're gonna draw the flag in that situation because I know that Eagles fans will say Mitchell looks, but I'm like, he's looking at the other sideline. He's not looking up and back for the ball. Like his head barely turns level with the with the opposite sideline at the time the ball's coming in. And Bond is running for his life. He's in, you know, he's in that Tampa two where he's trying to get depth in the middle of the field and his back is to love and that's why.
00:35:28
Mike __kawanomike_
I'm not defending it wasn't a great it wasn't a great decision by Jordan we've seen Rogers make that throw with that little bit and and on the and on the other side of it Blankenship makes a fucking hell of a play to pick that thing off the turf and make sure it doesn't bounce because it took a 10 it took a 10-point dive to make that interception happen little unfortunate on that side not the greatest decision on love's part but if if and we saw tonyan do it a few times where if musgrave just sticks two feet in the ground and jumps bon is running him over and we're getting a flag and a first down on that play so it is what it is but those are all teaching points on tape that it's like all right guys like
00:36:13
Mike __kawanomike_
you're here you're open but these are those little things that you can do that'll make you know even if you catch you don't catch the ball that it's going to turn into a positive outcome for us so it's like i said yeah
00:36:25
iowa_joe
Right. And that that's been my whole point. I love these guys. They just, and I don't want to ever question Musgrave's toughness because of him playing last year of several plays with a lacerated frigging kidney.
00:36:38
iowa_joe
But you know, but you know, it's, it's, you would love to see it.
00:36:45
Mike __kawanomike_
It's the, it's the, I think, wait yeah, it's it's that, it's that whole thing.
00:36:50
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:36:51
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah. And so.
00:36:54
iowa_joe
And the other thing is, is it's really surprising that the refs didn't flag Mitchell more for his shit because Mitchell is a rookie.
00:37:01
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:37:03
iowa_joe
And usually it's not the rookie that gets the benefit of the doubt.
00:37:06
Mike __kawanomike_
and especially when you look forward in the game that play on Mitchell doesn't get flagged and then you have those erroneous calls against Jair and Kenny Clark later in the game where it's like Oh, like and if and and the Jair play just further proves what we're saying about Christian, where it's like, if you do anything, even if you fall down, which is what Devonta Smith did because he slips on that play, they're like, oh my God, that cornerback obviously did something to him.
00:37:31
iowa_joe
Oh, Mike dropped again. So here is my third plug for our merchandise over at the store. Please make sure you check out ohanapackers.org slash store and buy your merchandise here.
00:37:39
Mike __kawanomike_
So same thing for Watson is it's like, if you do something, you're drawing a flag and I've dropped out again, goddamn.
00:37:41
iowa_joe
I even got one of the shirts on right now. May the OP with you, uh, cheeses, the wave, the Mandalorian merchandise, uh, Joan joined the ope side.
00:37:52
iowa_joe
We have Jordan love and cheese curds. Uh, what else is, Oh, we got coffee. I forgot. We even have coffee over there. Ohana Packers edition coffee. Please make sure you go over and buy some merchandise so we can make sure we have the top-notch equipment for Mike Cuano and myself to be able to bring out more of these podcasts for you to enjoy. Please go buy merchandise.
00:38:18
Mike __kawanomike_
just like the Just like the Packers and Eagles, we are struggling through week one on this episode. So the new routers on the way.
00:38:25
iowa_joe
You would think we were in different time zones.
00:38:28
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah We're on different continents. One of us isn't even on a freaking continent. But not only are the same point over and over.
00:38:39
Mike __kawanomike_
main thing going forward it's gonna be rough with Willis it's always gonna be rough with a backup quarterback when you you don't have your starter but there's a lot of things that the Packers can be pleased with how over even the course of this game the run game figured itself out Reid was able to make plays all day Dobbs made enough plays for you Wix was getting open the and I do think Watson was stressing their coverage to get other guys you know Reid is open because Watson is taking the top off the defense and they're worried about him going through and stuff so everyone else seems to have gotten out of this game healthy you just hope love can come back soon to kind of put the icing on the cake on this one so over to the other side of the ball
00:39:23
iowa_joe
Alright, let's jump to defense because we're yeah, but we're gonna beat this offensive side to death.
00:39:28
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah So and it's the same thing so kind of going to your point about how why you didn't like us playing the Eagles in this game in an international setting it's a bad matchup for a young for a first-time defensive coordinator getting a bunch of rookies into you know trying to get a bunch of rookies to be stable contributors you know you saw some good you the the interception by bikini was a great play you saw moments where we were able to stifle their run game but overall you saw you know you just saw moments where rookies were rookies you know bullard on the long aj brown touchdown he takes an angle that would have made haha clinton dicks proud
00:40:12
Mike __kawanomike_
trying to get over the top of that route and then you just had broken tackles late in the game and i thought positives for me i thought quay looked really good overall and i know that fucking shit yeah fuck
00:40:26
iowa_joe
Mike keeps freezing up soon. I'm not going to do the plug at this moment because he hasn't completely dropped out, but he's getting pretty close to it. So I'm going to continue on saying what he was going to say.
Defensive Performance and Field Impact
00:40:39
iowa_joe
You had the nice interception by McKinney, who whose vision made that interception amazing. His range was great.
00:40:51
iowa_joe
you had Devontae Wyatt with the fumble recovery off the snap and he shot in there like a dart. You had the interception by Jair later in the game. You had respectable things from this defense, but it goes completely back to what we were talking about with this field.
00:41:19
iowa_joe
They couldn't trust their footing. They were struggling. Now, I called out a couple of people to for this and they kept saying, well, Jair played like ass. Well, how many times did the reason why Jair seemed like he was playing like ass was because he slipped because or he skidded or he fell or whatever. One of the main catches by A.J. Brown was because Jair fell because of his footing.
00:41:49
iowa_joe
One of the tackles Jair missed was because he fell because of the footing. So again, I go back to the point of you can't use this game to gauge what this defense is going to be just because of who their opponent was first game of the season and the field conditions.
00:42:10
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah
00:42:10
iowa_joe
And that's plain and simple field conditions caused a lot of this. I know people are going to say, well, you can't just continue using the field conditions of as as an excuse. Well, yes, you can. Because like I said, I'm not just blaming it all on the Packers issues.
00:42:25
iowa_joe
The Eagles had a shit ton of issues because of the field too. So it's not one or the other.
00:42:29
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah. Yep.
00:42:32
iowa_joe
I will say this. I will continue to this day think that the Wilson keeping Wilson over Welch was a big mistake. I think it showed a little bit where you've got two basically of the same players in McDuffie and Wilson on the field at the same time. And it just doesn't work out well. they They're downhill runners. They can't cover. They're not sideline to sideline guys. Mike is back, but I'm going to continue talking for the moment.
00:43:07
iowa_joe
Wilson and McDuffie. McDuffie, yes, if you can have another one in there like Quay. Quay looked good in most of his stuff. Yeah, there were a couple times that he looked a little bit off, but you can't fully blame it on Quay.
00:43:28
iowa_joe
I understand the pass rush didn't look great, but that's where you got to go back to
00:43:36
iowa_joe
Right, the Eagles have one of the best offensive lines in the league. Yes, they lost, Kelsey. And you could tell that the center that took over was struggling for a lot of it. But they still have their two all-pro tackles. They still have their the same guards that they've had for years and years. They have an amazing offensive line. They were able to pressure, hurts a bit.
00:44:05
iowa_joe
the, Mike, do you know what the final tally for the sacks were for him? I know they at least got two.
00:44:12
iowa_joe
Did they give
00:44:14
iowa_joe
Right. and And you can't base everything off of one game. So now if they go against Indy next week, Tennessee after that, Minnesota, if they start doing the same shit against them, then you can start worrying about it.
Learning from Loss and Future Outlook
00:44:32
iowa_joe
But again, you go back to the...
00:44:35
iowa_joe
Right. You you go back to the fact that the Eagles are one of the top teams in the NFL right now. Everybody struggles against them for the most part. And the offense was pushing. they did our The Packers offense was pushing. But like you stated early on, you know they left easily 15, 17 points out on the field by missing touchdowns and only going and going for field goals and missing the one field goal in itself. And then I get, oh I don't know.
00:45:11
iowa_joe
I, again, nobody's happy with taking the loss on this, but because of conditions, because of everything else, you just got to push this game out of your mind.
00:45:23
iowa_joe
Later on in the season, if the Packers get through to the playoffs and the Packers come up against the Eagles, that's going to tell you a lot more than this game's going to tell you.
00:45:33
iowa_joe
Hell yeah, there was a couple of times he was covering Devonta Smith.
00:45:37
iowa_joe
Oh, call him out, Mike. It was Bukowski. I know it was, because I just went through his Twitter before we started recording. Fuck you, Pete.
00:45:45
iowa_joe
my
00:45:47
iowa_joe
No, you you you finally came back. You finally came back towards the end of that. but yeah, and yeah people also got to remember, oh, now he dropped out. People also got to remember that edge Cooper missed most of training camp because of injury. They've got to work them back slowly. They can't just throw them in there and say, all right, kid, you go for it because he's not ready for it. Now what we saw the little bits out of him during the game, he looked amazing.
00:46:14
iowa_joe
Be prepared. When he finally gets fully healthy and he's fully in the system, you're going to have two amazing linebackers running out there.
00:46:24
iowa_joe
You're going to have Cooper and you're going to have Quay running together. That's going to cause a lot of problems for people because they're going to be able to line up and come. Like I was saying, Quay was freaking covering Devontae Smith.
00:46:38
iowa_joe
Devontae Smith is a hell of a speedster for a wide receiver. And he was basically step by you know step for step with him. So you can't, again, this defense has a lot of issues and they're working through them. There were a lot of positives I saw out of it. Yeah, there were negatives, but it's the first game of the season. Let's just make sure that they don't continue to happen throughout the rest of the season.
00:47:06
iowa_joe
If they do the next couple of days, then you can start questioning things. But one of the main things that you could see is Halfly was doing was able to make adjustments. Were they working all the time? No, they weren't working all the time. But he was at least able to make adjustments out there and get his players to do what he wanted them to do.
00:47:33
iowa_joe
Again, I know I keep beating this dead horse. Had the field conditions not been like they were, I think we would have had a lot different story.
00:47:42
iowa_joe
Well, and to kind of go back to what you said about Nixon, I want to also throw the gyre thing out there. Why those two decided to run out of the end zone is I don't know what the thought process was there.
00:47:57
iowa_joe
But, you know, next time, you know, just take the knee.
00:48:02
iowa_joe
I thought Larry McCarran was going to have a heart attack on the radio broadcast.
00:48:08
iowa_joe
I think that's about it, because we've pretty much beat everything that we could with it. I mean, again, it is what it is.
Moving Forward and Fan Interactions
00:48:17
iowa_joe
Just boot the game film and move on to the next.
00:48:25
iowa_joe
Oh, did he freeze again?
00:48:28
iowa_joe
Yeah, so I'm going to go ahead and jump into my segment.
00:48:31
iowa_joe
Oh, OK, there we go. Now he's back. All right, so I'm really sh...
00:48:38
iowa_joe
I really struggled with finding stuff this week because I think everybody was in a or you know with the last few days I think everybody was in too somber of a mood to Say too much dumb stuff. Like I told Mike beforehand a lot of it was just troll accounts and it's like and it's not fun to go after those troll accounts because they're their pop-up accounts where they've got like five followers and they follow a hundred people and shit like that so that's not fun to call out but there were a few That I will not all of them are Packer wise not all of them are football wise, but I do have a couple of them. I do want to call out so the first one is Obviously a Viking fan. His name is Victor the Viking at Victor the Viking on Twitter and he tweeted at NFL I can't think of two worst fan bases to expose a new country to them the Packers and the Eagles and
00:49:36
iowa_joe
All right, buddy. So the Packers are one of the most traveled fan bases in all of the NFL. Do we have some people that probably could be dropped off the Packers wagon? Yeah, sure. Why not? But for the most part, 99% of the Packer fans are some of the greatest people you ever wanted to meet.
00:49:56
iowa_joe
they They epitomize what it means to be a true fan. They are amazing people. They travel so well. We know several of them, or we know at least a couple of them that are hacker content creators from Brazil itself. All over the world, we've talked to several people from different people. Hell, my old podcast partner was Australian. I've talked to people from Turkey.
00:50:26
iowa_joe
England Brazil Canada Mexico we've talked to all these people that have had tied, you know that are Packer fans I to call them one of one of two worst fan bases is such a shitty ass take there there's The Eagles can be argued because they are the same fans that threw but batteries at Santa Claus. So I mean that can, luckily there were no batteries thrown and there in Brazil. But to call them Packers, one of the worst fan bases is just being a troll. So Victor the Viking, shut the fuck up.
00:51:12
iowa_joe
Well, that was one of the ones that I was thinking about doing was, but so many people went after him for it.
00:51:18
iowa_joe
And I guess he did have receipts that people were kind of going after Vikings for the JJ McCarthy injury and the Kirk Cousins injury.
00:51:30
iowa_joe
So it's like, okay, fair, fair play, but that's not worth my time. So the next one I've got.
00:51:40
iowa_joe
Uh, I'm going to do this one. I've got four of them, so I'm going to try making these shortest possible. I'm going to lump this one together. I'm not just specifically calling out this person. I'm going to call out everybody who, who has put this out there into the Packerverse. We're not bringing in Ryan Tannehill.
00:52:09
iowa_joe
We're not bringing in James Winston. We're not bringing in Tyler Hontley. We're not bringing in Joe Flacco. We're not bringing in these guys unless something tremendously horrible goes wrong between Jordan, Malik, and Clifford.
00:52:28
iowa_joe
The only one that I could see them signing back to Green Bay is seventh round draft pick Matt, uh, Michael Pratt.
00:52:36
iowa_joe
That's the only one that I see them bringing back at all.
00:52:40
iowa_joe
If they ever decided to bring in another quarterback, if this was a season ending injury, sure. Why not? Would we bring in somebody, but you really want fucking James Winston and Ryan Tannehill on this team.
00:52:53
iowa_joe
Two of the worst quarterbacks there are in the league.
00:52:58
iowa_joe
You will also give the Browns fans so much shit about Deshawn Rapist, Watson over there in Cleveland, but yet you want to bring in James fucking Winston.
00:53:12
iowa_joe
The same guy who has sexually assaulted people and everything else. and you You want to bring him in, but yet you want to rip on Browns fans. So anybody who listens to this who's calling for Ryan Tannehill, James Winston, Tyler Huntley, or anybody else you can think of that is not named Pratt, Clifford, or Willis, shut the fuck up.
00:53:41
iowa_joe
Exactly.
00:53:43
iowa_joe
Yeah, I would think so. All right, so my second to the last one is actually Nothing to do with the Packers game, but this is a big fish to say, shut the fuck
Criticisms and Social Media Engagement
00:53:56
iowa_joe
up to. And that's Mr. Skip Bayless with his tweet earlier today saying, bear down Chicago Bears. It wasn't always pretty for Caleb who often played like a game one rookie, but he did what it took to win coming through from 17-0 down to pull it out 24-17. Kid is going to be good.
00:54:19
iowa_joe
Skip, did you actually watch the fucking game? Did you? did I really gotta know, did you actually watch that Bears game? It was the defense that pulled the Bears back from a 17-nothing deficit. Caleb Williams had nothing to do with it. Why do I say he had nothing to do with it?
00:54:43
iowa_joe
What was his completion rating? How many yards did he have? And how many touchdowns did he throw? You answer me those three questions. Well, actually four, because I asked you if you actually watched the game. But you answer me those four questions, and then I can i can take away my shut the fuck up. Because I guarantee you my first question of did you actually watch the game is no.
00:55:10
iowa_joe
So that means you you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just trying to do clickbait and everything else, and you want to get a rise out of people. Well, here you go. Skip Bayless. You got a rise out of somebody. And it's just me saying, shut the fuck up.
00:55:24
iowa_joe
It was. And this isn't me saying Caleb's going to be a bad quarterback. I really, you know, I eventually do hope the Bears can get a good quarterback there to make the rivalry back to where it should be.
00:55:39
iowa_joe
You know, I'm not saying they need to have an all star or, you know, an all pro at the quarterback, but at least make it interesting when the Packers play the Bears and. The only thing I didn't like about Caleb Williams is when I would watch his tape and he didn't have a good game, he like shut down.
00:55:56
iowa_joe
He he wasn't, he didn't seem like he was a leader for the most part. But I'm getting tired of the people, oh, well he paints his nails. Who the fuck cares if he paints his nails or not?
00:56:09
iowa_joe
Or what was the other thing that their bitch right and what was the other thing somebody was bitching about that he was like carrying Gucci bags or Versace bags who the fuck cares so but it's just right so no bears fans
00:56:32
iowa_joe
and And even Skip Bayless, just shut the fuck up about this game. The offense did nothing for you. The defense did everything.
00:56:43
iowa_joe
And Will Levis, being a complete idiot on some of his passes, did the rest.
00:56:51
iowa_joe
Yes.
00:56:53
iowa_joe
So, you know what? Again, Skip Bayless, just shut the fuck up. All right, my last one, and this isn't even football related, but I had to do this one just because, not because I'm necessarily standing up for this, for one person.
00:57:13
iowa_joe
I'm just saying it in general, but a friend of the show, friend of the network.
00:57:19
iowa_joe
Oh, Jan Jan Janet Wilson on Twitter. tweeted out the other day dear parents of children in school teachers do not need to respond to your messages on weekends talking about I'd like a response you'll get it 7 15 a.m. on Monday it's a good post I agree with him wholeheartedly I'm not even a teacher my boss knows unless it's a friggin emergency don't contact me when I'm not working so she's been taking a lot of flack for this And I'm going to specifically call out this one guy, even though there was hundreds of them that were responding to this. But this one is get good dad at always learn 24 seven on Twitter. Sorry, but you have the entire summer off help kids when they need it from a teacher. You know, I just said it. I don't care if it's for help. I don't care if it's what it's for.
00:58:13
iowa_joe
Don't bug somebody on their fucking day off unless it's an emergency. If it's, hey, my kid's in the hospital dying, yeah, okay, get ahold of the teacher because she's gonna have to play what's damage control Monday morning when things when kids start coming in and say, hey, what's going on?
00:58:32
iowa_joe
What's going on? Get it, fullheartedly. But is it, if and I don't know the whole situation with why this this parent contacted Janet, but if it's, hey, my kid doesn't remember what the assignment was at 11.15 at night, on a Saturday night, that's not getting a response until Monday morning.
00:58:56
iowa_joe
Again, my boss knows, don't get ahold of me for nothing unless it's an emergency when I have time off. I get two days a week off. That's my time. If I want to make a run three hours away, that's nobody's business but my own. And do not call me while I'm doing it. So, Mr. What was your name again? Get Good Dad. I don't care if you're a teacher or not. That's a horrible response. If it was an emergency,
00:59:31
iowa_joe
then leave a message i'll listen to the message i will get back to you if i deem it a sufficient emergency but get good dad shut the fuck up
00:59:44
iowa_joe
Oh, it crapped out right in the middle of it his finish.
00:59:47
iowa_joe
so He was going to say, congratulations, Katie Sutterman, for winning our latest drawing.
01:00:04
iowa_joe
Okay. So in place of my, uh, follow Ohana underscore its Packers.
01:00:15
iowa_joe
All right. So make sure you're following at Ohana underscore Packers for all kinds. When we do a giveaway, you must be following that account. Follow us on whatever stream, you know, podcast streamer that you use Spotify, Apple podcasts, whatever. Make sure you drop a like, make sure you drop us review. Check out the website. Like I said earlier, many times for the merchandise. Congrats. Congrats again to Katie Sanderman. Uh,
01:00:44
iowa_joe
Let's see, what else was I going to say? There was some else. Oh, if you have, if you find a bad take, you would like us to tell somebody to shut the fuck up on, please make sure you send it to us so we can do it on our, our next, uh, episode with the segment in it. But for my kawano, for myself, for everything else, Aloha and go pack dude.