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OPE Season 3 Episode 8 Cheeseheads vs. Horseshoes
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Aloha and Welcome to another episode of OPE! On this episode we preview the Week 2 matchup between the Colts and the Packers. We look at how the 2 teams match up from offense to defense with a sprinkling of special teams!
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Intro
Welcome to the 'Ohana Packers Edition Podcast'
00:00:31
Mike __kawanomike_
Aloha and welcome back to the Ohana Packers Edition Podcast, the podcast where everything is going second take this week. I've had camera failure. We're hoping for better internet.
Malik Willis' Downfield Throwing
00:00:43
Mike __kawanomike_
The Packers are hoping Malik Willis can throw the ball down the field. And Joe is wondering if he's going to have to talk to himself this this episode. Joe, let's cross our fingers and let's see how this
Jordan Love's Practice Status
00:00:54
Mike __kawanomike_
one's going to go. But hopefully better than week one did for the Packers. and I mean, obviously, Jordan Love is the elephant in the room, but it's always good to see that 53 others practice today. so it's looking and And they have not shut the
Has the Team Given Up on Love?
00:01:10
Mike __kawanomike_
door. But the question for us is, have we shut the door on Love Playing this week?
Comparing to Aaron Rodgers' Injury
00:01:15
iowa_joe
I know people keep bringing up the Aaron Rodgers one where Aaron Rodgers tweaked it and they were talking about how he was going to be out for extended period of time, but he was back that next week. I think it was friend of shows ah ah Dawn and and Matt from Hey We Like Your Pod. We're talking about how Aaron Jones had the same issue. where And so I think this, I'm really set. I know I predicted it on last episode. I'm really set that it's going to be a two week thing. I think right now they're just playing the mind games of, you know, well, are we going to start this guy or are we going to start that guy or whatever?
00:02:02
iowa_joe
But who knows, we could all be wrong too and you know they throw a brace on it and say, all right, go out and play.
00:02:04
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:02:07
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, I do. You know, the and it's hard to tell because Leflore is obviously going to play it straight down the middle. And the team is doing the right thing where he's
Malik Willis' Mental Reps
00:02:17
Mike __kawanomike_
not even there.
00:02:18
Mike __kawanomike_
Like, he's not riding the bike. He's not, you know, walking around kind of thing. Love, he being love. So like, yeah.
00:02:23
iowa_joe
right i think they said Malik or Malik said that he was there he just wasn't during the reporter portion
00:02:28
Mike __kawanomike_
Right. media portion exactly yeah so i think i think malik was saying how he's getting uh love is getting a lot of uh mental reps and they're prepping you know he the way he worded it was interesting because of course la floor is playing it straight down the middle like we're giving it you know he's doing a lot of good work we're gonna see where he's at at the end of the week blah blah blah Malik's was kind of more like, I'm going to be ready just in case. like And you know it's hard to take that at more than face value, but it is interesting that you know it wasn't the the the scripted, you know we hope he comes back quickly, but I'm going to do everything I can for the team until then. got of thing It is interesting that Malik, even the the guy who's prepping to be the starter,
00:03:16
Mike __kawanomike_
you know if love you know if love misses a few a couple to a few weeks as we're expecting it is interesting that Willis and to a lesser extent Clifford are both kind of like oh yeah you know we're prepping but know we're kind of keeping the seat warm kind of thing so it is it is interesting to see how it's gonna go but I'm with you I'm expecting that Willis is gonna start and Personally, the really nerdy, that the the game plan weirdo that I am is kind of intrigued by Willis starting because I do want to see what Leflore does to kind of pull the stops out to get a win against an unfamiliar opponent. So that that that side of it is intriguing.
00:04:04
iowa_joe
It is and it's also interesting this because, you know, in Clements we trust, you know, obviously he's done wonders with Rogers.
00:04:11
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:04:14
iowa_joe
He's done so far. It seems like he's done wonders with love. And I know it's only been a short amount of time, but there must have been something there that they liked and Willis that they thought that they could fix on him.
00:04:29
iowa_joe
And it's, it it'll be interesting to see if Obviously he's not going to be a completely new quarterback, but it'll be interesting to see if he's taken the next step.
00:04:42
iowa_joe
If they've worked with him and said, all right, this is what you got to do. And if, cause you know, it has been what, three weeks since the trade that he has had a little bit of time to get in there and they have been getting a little bit of work with him.
00:04:49
Mike __kawanomike_
Yep.
00:04:55
iowa_joe
Obviously that's ramped up now that, you know, Jordan's not taking any snaps during practice, but You know, you go back to what Willis was in the draft and he was a dual threat quarterback that had a big arm, but he had his issues and there, and they were multiple because, you know, obviously he went to a small school compared to most draft picks. And there's a reason why a lot of the talking heads had him as a first round, but he fell all the way to the third round. There's a reason for that too. I was trying to think, was that the,
00:05:31
Mike __kawanomike_
picket year no i think lock was the year i think lock is older than love hold on let's let's look this up yes he's a 2019 lucky or lock is a 2019 draft pick yeah 21 yeah 21 is the rough quarterback year
00:05:33
iowa_joe
But was that also Drew Locke?
00:05:45
iowa_joe
Because for some reason... Okay. And Willis was a 21. Okay.
00:05:58
iowa_joe
Yeah. for so Well, that's why I was thinking Locke was in there for some reason, because for some reason it kept just sticking in my heart and my mind, Locke and Willis.
00:06:09
iowa_joe
And you know, that was the year that only one quarterback was taken in the first round and that, but it's picket.
00:06:13
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah. and
00:06:16
iowa_joe
So no, I just, I, so I was going to say that, you know,
00:06:21
Mike __kawanomike_
Or sorry, but yeah, it was Pickett and then, well I think, I don't think there was a quarterback take in between Pickett and Willis.
00:06:30
iowa_joe
That's what I was wanting to say too.
00:06:32
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah i can't i always get the whole like it's two years ago but you count the year kind of things so i always get i always throw that one off so yeah but yeah it was that was a such a weird quarterback class okay and you can probably throw out weird and put terrible but but we're hoping that some some work with uh some work with
00:06:38
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:06:55
Mike __kawanomike_
Clements and Lafleur is getting Willis a little bit more to the guy that you hope to see than the guy that he's been so far in his career. But yeah. We'll see.
00:07:06
Mike __kawanomike_
But other than that, Edge Cooper was a full participant. And then Limited were Valentine, Kenny Clark, Josh Jacobs, and Marshawn Lloyd. I get the feeling that Lloyd is getting closer because they did release the Michael Piran from the practice squad and didn't replace him with another running back.
00:07:26
Mike __kawanomike_
I know Meriwether is still there. And the guy they, yes, or?
00:07:31
iowa_joe
Martin? Chris Martin? Is that his name?
00:07:35
Mike __kawanomike_
Chris something but totally blanking. But the one the one they signed right before the game last week. So they I get the feeling that Jacob Jacob's he's being listed because you have to list him.
00:07:47
Mike __kawanomike_
And then I do think Marshawn is getting close to, you know, his debut. And I get the feeling that he will play this week, even if just in like a couple snaps here and there kind of thing.
00:07:59
Mike __kawanomike_
And, you know,
00:08:00
iowa_joe
He was in pads. That's promising.
00:08:02
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah and expect the i think today was the shells day yeah brooks so we'll keep it you know we'll but our twitter account will our individuals and then obviously we'll retweet it with the the podcast twitter account but we'll be monitoring the practice situation but we're recording this on wednesday so obviously the official practice report has not come out this week by the time that we're recording this but
00:08:04
iowa_joe
Chris Brooks. Brooks.
00:08:28
Mike __kawanomike_
Everything is honestly looking as positive as it can be, and that's including the Jordan Love side of it. But that's enough for the Packers. Getting into the c Colts, who are also coming off of a week one loss. The Packers lost a conference game. The Colts lost a division game. So that's an even bigger bigger loss for them. But Anthony Richardson, that is the that's the the hot item for the Colts offense and you know he is the like stereotypical project quarterback big tall athletic cannon arm he had
00:09:07
Mike __kawanomike_
I don't know if you saw it, Joe, but it was an absolutely ridiculous play where he like dodged two guys, broke a tackle in the pocket, and then just zinged the ball of like 60 yards in the air effortlessly. But then, you know, at the same time, he only completed 47% of his passes. So still a work in progress. This is a guy who I think he only played like five games last year, but As much as you said last week, you didn't care for the fact that we're playing the Eagles so early in the season.
00:09:38
Mike __kawanomike_
I do think we're catching the Colts at a good time because of where Richardson is in terms of his development.
00:09:45
iowa_joe
I'd much rather play the Colts week one than the Eagles.
00:09:47
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:09:47
iowa_joe
So that, that right there, but yeah, Richards and then the other side of Richardson is, is he can move, you know, he's a, he's a dual threat.
00:09:54
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:09:58
iowa_joe
They do have some pieces over there. It's interesting that of the 212 yards that Richardson threw, Alec Pierce had 125 of them.
00:10:10
iowa_joe
oh That is an interesting aspect. you know they They do have the running back room. Jonathan Taylor, he really didn't do much, but they also went against a tough Texans team.
00:10:24
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:10:25
iowa_joe
so
00:10:26
Mike __kawanomike_
and And kind of touching on what you were talking about a little earlier on Richardson's mobility. I still don't think this is good. You know, people were disappointed in the Packers pass rush against the Eagles.
00:10:37
Mike __kawanomike_
We covered that in the the recap episode. The field sucked Kenny Clark. has been blasting it every day since the game and you you kind of saw it and it they definitely went in with a contain the pocket don't let hurts run for 150 yards like he did two years ago and then the field conditions they're like yeah we're toning this thing down from an eight to a five we're playing smart and you just hold them in the park so you hope that in the friendly confines of Lambo that the Packers are gonna
00:11:10
Mike __kawanomike_
not go for broke on it but you know send Richard like we said Richardson is young he hasn't seen he hasn't been around the block a whole lot of times so you you don't bum rush him because if you miss a gap you're gonna get burned but at the same time you got to show him some different looks because you might be able to catch him in a bad spot kind of thing right
00:11:30
iowa_joe
right and now but if you go by what nagler said you know they they have the same field type that that's down in sao paulo so you know we could have the same problems all over again this week
00:11:45
Mike __kawanomike_
if if lambo If Lambo's end zones look like a shot put range, we have a whole lot of issues with Lambo. So I know, i saw that I saw that comment. And I was like, I'm not buying that. Like like we we talked about on um Sundays, that when we recorded on Sunday, there's a different like, yes, they might stitch the turf together. It might be the same kind of grass and yada, yada, yada. but
00:12:11
iowa_joe
It's conditioned different.
00:12:12
Mike __kawanomike_
It's conditioned different. It's for guys just running and sliding. Like you said. I'm pretty sure the blades of grass are longer on a soccer field than they are on an American football field. Because, like you said, sliding, you know, all the trick kicks and stuff like that, and then the celebrations afterward. Whereas football, you've got two 300-pound guys who have to mash into each other, and you don't want that ground to give and stuff. And it's very obvious. Like I said, it looked like a fair way after I'm done with it, so.
00:12:44
iowa_joe
but I like I said I would have rather played this game week one even if it was in Brazil but
00:12:49
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:12:54
iowa_joe
You have to figure that edge Cooper after the performance he kind of had is going to get a little bit more snap rotation. The pass rush is going to be a lot better. I know a lot of people are blasting.
00:13:05
iowa_joe
Uh, uh, Rashawn Gary, you know, why are we paying him all this money when he didn't do anything? And, you know, Lucas van Ness is just a one trick pony. And I even saw somebody may get smart ass that, uh, they, uh, one of the,
00:13:20
Mike __kawanomike_
hasn't learned to He hasn't learned anything other than a bull rush. What is he doing?
00:13:24
iowa_joe
Well, not just that one, but it was somebody was being smart asked about Kenny Clark when they listed him as being as a limited participant.
00:13:24
Mike __kawanomike_
kind of
00:13:32
iowa_joe
And oh, he must be just on doing his passing downs because he doesn't even show up on rushing downs. So are on run protect down. So it.
00:13:42
iowa_joe
It's going to be a complete.
00:13:42
Mike __kawanomike_
Everyone's got an opinion. Yeah.
00:13:44
iowa_joe
right and it's going to be a completely different game i i even seen people blasting quay and we both thought quay did a heck of a job but it was
00:13:52
Mike __kawanomike_
and And what's nice is a lot of people have come back and said, like, no, like, this might have been one of Koei's best games. And a lot of the plays where there were a few where he was definite he definitely should have been better. But most of the plays where everyone's like, what's he doing? It's like, no, no, there's a reason for what happened here. And it sucks that it ended up being like this. But there's there's a reason kind of thing. So.
00:14:16
iowa_joe
And even though I hate PFF, didn't they give him a positive grade?
00:14:20
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah so and i don't mind pff grades for non-linemen i i just have never cared for their lineman grades because especially offensive linemen but even defensive linemen they don't we won't go down the rabbit hole but they they don't know as much about the game as they think they do and i'll just leave it at that
00:14:44
iowa_joe
And I will be full transparency after they gave Rogers a negative grade after a after one of his...
00:14:49
Mike __kawanomike_
but but That 2015 Monday Night Game, yeah.
00:14:54
iowa_joe
Yeah, after they gave him a negative grade, I was like, fuck you guys. I don't know what you guys are looking at, but especially when... I think they did the same thing that Jordan loved last year.
00:15:06
iowa_joe
I think they gave him a negative grade for a game and it was like he had positive stats.
00:15:10
Mike __kawanomike_
I think and I think what made it even worse is it was like it was the whole oh it's what they were trying to be like outside the box where it was one of his not great statistical games kind like it was a good but not great but they're like oh because he did all the right things and everyone you know it's not his fault the plays didn't work kind of thing and it's like you guys are you guys are trying way too hard with this but this isn't a PFF rat we're we're talking
00:15:24
iowa_joe
yeah
00:15:33
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:15:38
iowa_joe
no I could go on a long one with PFF.
00:15:40
Mike __kawanomike_
I know, we both could, we both could, but you, you.
00:15:43
iowa_joe
But that also points out to me where QB ratings. I don't understand the whole QB rating thing because you look at Anthony Richards last game, 9 for 19, 47.4 completion, 212 yards, two TDs, one interception, two sacks, but he had a 101.2 rating.
00:15:50
Mike __kawanomike_
The, yeah.
00:16:02
Mike __kawanomike_
that one okay so at least that one i i don't know who made the formula but i know it is purely like a This goes here, this goes there, this goes there, and it spits out the number.
00:16:15
Mike __kawanomike_
The one that's really stupid is ESPN's QBR because it has some dumb, I know they'll say it's all statistics, but I think it's a subjective stats because of how they try to use it to weigh your performance in the key moments of the game kind of thing and stuff.
00:16:31
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:16:32
Mike __kawanomike_
and so and so like Rogers would always be like a 60-something. And granted, I know we could nitpick how Rogers did in the key moments of certain important games, but when you look at it and then you have like freaking Bailey Zappies at like an 89 or something, you're like, okay, get over yourselves. But but
00:16:54
iowa_joe
Yeah, going back to this, Anthony Richardson obviously being, I'm not so worried about his arm because yes, it's a cannon of an arm, but he is the prototypical that if you can get any kind of pressure on him, his accuracy goes out the window.
00:17:09
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah. He's still figuring his footwork out. There's a lot of good stuff around Twitter. I think Brett Coleman has some good stuff. Nate Tice has some good breakdowns. Ben Fennell. Oh, shucks. The Raiders' athletic writer is escaping my my brain right now. But they've all done good ones where it's like, you can see the progress he's made. but And that's why I said, this will be a fun game to watch Halfly system because especially if he gets edge a little more involved if Kway is turned loose a little bit more on blitzes they could simulate and send some zone pressures at him that might you know you get that throw it to right into a defensive lineman's chest kind of thing or like there's a wide open dig but he shorts it by five yards and stuff so that's the kind of action and especially because as I kind of have in the notes
00:17:59
Mike __kawanomike_
The Colts have spent a bunch of decent draft picks on this line, but I still don't think outside of Quinton Nelson, it's that good. And Nelson is starting to show his age a little bit.
00:18:11
Mike __kawanomike_
I know he had a rough year, two years ago. I think he did kind of bounce back last year, but he's not quite the like gold standard guard he was like three to four years ago.
00:18:23
Mike __kawanomike_
And their left tackle is a guy in Bernard Raymond that I
00:18:26
iowa_joe
Which is weird, he's only 28.
00:18:28
Mike __kawanomike_
right and it just goes to show how like as dominant as a like if you're as good of a player as Quinton Nelson is you're but one man on a five man unit and if the guys around you aren't that great your overall play is going to be limited because you can only do so much and stuffs, or I think with Nelson his problem two years ago he tried to put too much on his plate and tried to overcompensate for the guys around him kind of thing so
00:18:59
iowa_joe
And I really don't know what their starting line is. I mean, they've got a good mix of old and young throughout all their things, but.
00:19:05
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah. There are two tackles, like our two guys that were on Packers like draft wish lists for certain people.
00:19:12
iowa_joe
Raymond.
00:19:13
Mike __kawanomike_
and i And I never cared for either of them. Raymond, is he's he's a he's Jason Spriggs.
00:19:19
iowa_joe
Old prospect.
00:19:20
Mike __kawanomike_
He's an old Jason Spriggs to be coming out of college. always worry about guys who need to add functional strength in the pros. And then, oh, shucks.
00:19:31
iowa_joe
They drafted Bordellini out of Wisconsin and Tucker out of Marshall for guard positions.
00:19:33
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:19:36
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah
00:19:38
iowa_joe
So I mean, they've got a good mix. I mean, Ryan Kelly is probably the most likely they're starting center.
00:19:42
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:19:45
iowa_joe
Like I said, I don't know what the starting line is and he's got nine years in the league. So I mean, he's got experience.
00:19:51
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:19:52
iowa_joe
So it'll be a good test.
00:19:56
Mike __kawanomike_
It'll be a good chance for a bounce back for the outside, the the edge guys.
00:19:56
iowa_joe
Just.
00:19:59
iowa_joe
Right.
00:20:00
Mike __kawanomike_
And...
00:20:00
iowa_joe
And in with, like I said, with Edge Cooper looking pretty decent in his limited snaps and Quay, you know, they're both going to get opportunities to rush. And I would imagine at least one of them is going to be spying most of the game.
00:20:17
iowa_joe
So that'll give them opportunities. And and you got to believe if they can get the pressure on Richardson, that's going to allow the the defensive backs to feast.
00:20:27
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah And it's going to be another decent test for the secondary again because pittman Michael Pittman Jr. and Alec Pierce are two height, weight, speed wide receivers. Adadai Mitchell adds the same kind of mix.
00:20:40
Mike __kawanomike_
and so You know, we're going to see how much, and I do agree with you. I think the field contributed a lot to the issues last week. And Devonta Smith and AJ Brown are just on a note ah few more tiers ahead of these two guys.
00:20:56
Mike __kawanomike_
So it's a good pairing, but what the Packers face, both in terms of their opponent and the field itself, this is going to be a night and day approach from them.
00:21:06
Mike __kawanomike_
So I'm expecting a much better performance from the secondary.
00:21:09
iowa_joe
And it looks like all they got to do is shut down Pierce and the whole offense goes to shit
00:21:14
Mike __kawanomike_
So but I know john and Jonathan Taylor had an inefficient week but can't let him get rolling this week because That's he's still a super talented running back and you just can't give him any creases because he will take advantage of them Anything else you're looking at it that Colts offense that sticks out to you, but already
Analyzing the Colts' Offense
00:21:36
iowa_joe
i'm trying to look through and to know i really don't see it not really i think that covers it
00:21:39
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah
00:21:45
Mike __kawanomike_
like Delani Woods would have been highlighted but he's on IR the their uber athletic tight end he's just not been able to stay healthy in the pros he's a guy i wanted a couple years ago yeah i think yeah he's a he's a just a oversized ex-receiver that's what he is he he's not really a tight end he's just there because
00:21:58
iowa_joe
I don't even know what. Oh, they still got Ali Cox as a tight end.
00:22:08
iowa_joe
Yeah. They got some guys there, but really, like I said, it's shutting down the two main received outlets for Richardson in Pierce and Pittman. I mean, it does look like he's tried to spread the ball around and is limited.
00:22:28
iowa_joe
amount he targeted Pierce three times. So Pierce got his chunk of yards out off just three catches. oh Pittman was targeted eight times. Mitchell was targeted five times. And then he had one completion to do Ashton Doolan. So it it I mean, like I said, I think if they can shut down Pierce and they shut down Pittman,
00:22:57
iowa_joe
which you would figure with the bounce back game from Jair and I think Stokes had a pretty decent game last week.
00:23:02
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah the the my biggest complaint for stokes last week was that missed tackle and that's partly the field too so you know yeah so like i said we're gonna find a lot more about this defense this week uh than we did last week and honestly just excited to see what that's gonna look like so
00:23:10
iowa_joe
Yeah.
00:23:21
Mike __kawanomike_
Going from our defense against the Colts offense to our offense against the Colts defense and it is again up front where the the meat of this unit lies. Colts defensive front it has a pretty nice starting unit.
00:23:35
iowa_joe
However, I'm going to cut in front of you because you have, you don't have it in the notes. Buckner and pay did not practice. So they were listed as DNP.
00:23:45
iowa_joe
So I don't know how bad their injuries are if we're just giving them rest. Cause it just says unspecified for game status and it doesn't give anything for the injury.
00:23:53
Mike __kawanomike_
right yeah and out of all of those you'd only think um think um what's it called you'd only think that Buckner would kind of be uh yeah he's okay here i found their practice report
00:23:54
iowa_joe
So I don't know if it was just rest or what, but they were D and Julian Blackmon was a DNP also.
00:24:19
Mike __kawanomike_
Blackman was a shoulder, Buckner was back. Pei is a hamstring. And then their kicker has a, ooh, that's not great for a kicker, hernia. And then Josh Downs an ankle. So that's their injury report. So that will be worth monitoring as well because two of those guys, Quiddie Pei and DeForest Buckner are at the forefront of what I was gonna talk about with his defensive friend. Buckner, Packers fans all remember him from his run with the 49ers.
00:24:47
Mike __kawanomike_
the Niners still have not properly replaced them on on their defensive front.
00:24:51
iowa_joe
That one will become go down as one of the biggest head-scratching trades ever
00:24:56
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah like yeah and so and all all Buckner has done is continue to remain a just a a force on the interior of the coach defensive line uh special though he went to we Buckner de Forest and I went to the same high school but he is quite a few years younger um um and Cudi Pei uh Wolverine and so the two of them
00:25:20
iowa_joe
and the michigan news
00:25:22
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah So the two of them combined for two and a half sacks in week one. So that would be a lot of production going out the door if the two of the if either or both of them are not able to suit up. and would honestly be a boon because that takes this matchup from a a tough matchup two weeks in a row for this offensive line to really facing a less than experienced unit because if just based on how the Colts have their depth chart you go from Kudipay to their first-round pick Liatu Latu who had a good I think he
00:25:57
Mike __kawanomike_
had pressures on like 30 39 of his snaps and he didn't play though he didn't play that many that's still an impressive uh number and then arbor uh one of my draft crushes from last year are are from um Northwestern the backup listed as the backup to Buckner at nose tackle Grover Stewart is still a solid player and then Taekwon Lewis is kind of a Jag, but he plays up because the other guys on that line draw attention.
00:26:28
iowa_joe
And did they just sign Rayquan Davis this year?
00:26:34
iowa_joe
So he's a big nose to.
00:26:34
Mike __kawanomike_
I Think you think you yeah, yeah, so
00:26:36
iowa_joe
with. um um Washington, I think.
00:26:41
iowa_joe
Or was it Tennessee?
00:26:43
Mike __kawanomike_
I think it might have been Tennessee for some reason. Maybe that's why you were thinking of Tennessee before the game. Oh, no.
00:26:50
iowa_joe
Yeah, he signed. Well, no, Miami, Miami, we were both wrong.
00:26:52
Mike __kawanomike_
Miami.
00:26:55
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:26:57
iowa_joe
But yeah, he signed this year on March 15th. So, and he's a big boy.
00:26:59
Mike __kawanomike_
ye
00:27:01
iowa_joe
I mean, six, seven, three 25.
00:27:02
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:27:04
iowa_joe
So, you know, he's going to be a solid guy up the middle, stopping the run. but yeah, if Buckner and pay both don't play, that's going to be a massive hit for him.
00:27:16
iowa_joe
And then you throw in the back end. If Blackmon doesn't play, he, he would be a major loss in that secondary also.
00:27:22
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah so we'll kind of we'll actually just jump there because not much to say about their linebackers they've lost a lot the last couple years But yeah, Julian Blackman and Kenny Moore are the two lynchpins of that secondary. believe each has an interception of Rogers, or at least one of them does. I can't remember which one does from that game back in 2020. But they're both excellent covermen. And they just have a bunch of athletic younger guys at all the positions. but
00:27:55
Mike __kawanomike_
if black man's not back there he's the guy that they use as that swiss army knife player in their secondary he plays he'll show up one place pre-snap end up another post-snap they use him deep they use him in the box use him uh in some man coverage on tight ends and backs and he's just a really versatile high IQ player so losing him would be a blow especially because Look, they don't even have, I know they have more than safeties, but they don't even have a guy listed after him.
00:28:24
Mike __kawanomike_
So I'm not sure who would double down to strong safety if he's not able to go on on Sunday. So like I said, we'll keep an eye on it.
00:28:32
iowa_joe
the
00:28:46
Mike __kawanomike_
and he's the starter at yeah crosses the starter at free safety so crosses a solid guy i remember him playing at maryland so but yeah it it's gonna be another man this is gonna go back to that whole who is wide receiver one for the packers
00:29:02
iowa_joe
And they've got Ronnie Harrison Jr. on their practice squad. So he might, if Blackmon can't go, he probably gets a call up.
00:29:09
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So lots to keep an eye on. And especially if Black Men can't play, this is a game where Tucker was solid in week one. Musgraves got a bounce back after just being a total no-show, including not doing nearly enough on that interception over the middle of the field. It wasn't, like we said, it wasn't a great decision by Love. But Musgrave, that's one of the things that we said he had to improve on from last year is just being more physical at the catch point. and doing something to, you know, inherit a flag or to make a play on the ball.
00:29:43
Mike __kawanomike_
So need to see the tightness come through.
00:29:44
iowa_joe
And if if if it's Willis starting you know and they're missing Blackmon, Buckner, and Pei, you gotta think that that helps him out tremendously.
00:29:55
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, so Yeah, it it would be an excellent advantage to have. And then, like I said, I don't know anything about these linebackers for the Colts. The two guys that I remember them having are escaping me.
00:30:13
iowa_joe
EJ speed was third in tackles for them against the Texans. So maybe he's one of the starters.
00:30:19
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, but they have a... Shoot, what was that all-pro guy that they had?
00:30:25
iowa_joe
Darius Leonard.
00:30:26
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah Darius Leonard who like yeah just fell off the face of the earth and played for the Eagles last year so had him and then they had another linebacker who I'm also just blanking on but yeah like they um they yeah they've just lost a lot at that position so Again, like I said, if the game plan is to utilize Willis' mobility, you know get a little bit of read zone read in there and stuff, especially- - Yeah.
00:30:58
iowa_joe
I said this kind of jokingly in another show's chat. I think it was on ah on the Freezer podcast. But this is where you dig deep into the playbook.
00:31:10
iowa_joe
Jet sweeps, wildcat, triple option, whatever you got to do to get in just to make plays.
00:31:13
Mike __kawanomike_
ye Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because if you can score 24 points this week, I think you've got a good shot of winning this game. So, and especially because I do expect it's going to be a lot of ground impound and like just control the clock, milk like shorten this game as much as you can.
00:31:33
Mike __kawanomike_
and The thing with it is LaFleur has this in the back pocket because he was Mariota's coach when he was when they were both with the Titans. So he's got a bunch of this stuff in the back pocket.
00:31:45
Mike __kawanomike_
And we saw him run some of it with Jordan Love. so And to a lesser extent, even with Rodgers, you saw some of the zone read pulls and stuff like that, mostly on like key fourth downs and two-point conversion kind of plays and stuff.
00:31:59
Mike __kawanomike_
But you hope to see him more of that.
00:32:00
iowa_joe
I want to say, don't didn't they say Willis is a really good RPO quarterback?
00:32:05
Mike __kawanomike_
Yes. Yeah, he's really good at making those reads. And not just making the reads, but he's really good at what they call writing the play out, where you like leave the ball exposed to the running back as long as you can. And then you yank it at the last second to force commitments from the defenders and stuff. So like you said, throw the kitchen sink out there. It's an uncommon opponent. And you've got it's a race to 24 points this week. That's that's what I think it it's going to be. but And then it's kind of pointing in the mirror with the special teams.
00:32:42
Mike __kawanomike_
brook butgo be Rigoberto, oh shucks out, he has so many friggin' Rodrigo.
00:32:46
iowa_joe
the
00:32:48
Mike __kawanomike_
Oh no, Rigoberto was the kicker.
00:32:50
iowa_joe
the
00:32:51
Mike __kawanomike_
Oh no, Rigoberto is the punter, Sanchez. Yeah, Rodrigo was the kicker, the one that looks like Jimmy Christensen.
00:32:57
iowa_joe
yeah
00:33:00
Mike __kawanomike_
That was our joke on our our in one chat.
00:33:05
Mike __kawanomike_
But Sanchez is a solid punter, but they're breaking the Colts are breaking in their own rookie kicker, and their return game, I have no idea who their returners are, so...
00:33:19
iowa_joe
I got it here Anthony Gould.
00:33:21
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah, so...
00:33:24
iowa_joe
And he's a rookie.
00:33:26
Mike __kawanomike_
Yep, so... And like I have in the notes here, Kishan, you're awesome, but you gotta know the game situation, you gotta know when you gotta to just take a knee.
00:33:39
Mike __kawanomike_
I know on film review you're gonna say that you came close to breaking that one at the end of the game, but we needed the yards, we needed the time, so... Sachi's gotta be able to rein that in a little bit and stuff, so...
00:33:49
iowa_joe
Yeah. This is when you wish they would start doing like the old score, even like high school stuff where, you know, I go back to the movie, remember the Titans, you drop the football, you run a mile, you do this, you run a mile. ah ah That would be my practices. If, if I'm, if you're getting paid millions of dollars to play this sport and you pull a boneheaded stunt like that, you're running a mile. If you're doing this, you're running a mile.
00:34:19
Mike __kawanomike_
The only problem is I think Kishan's the kind of sicko that would just be like, cool, I'll do it. You know, the goofy meme and I'll do it again. But...
00:34:29
iowa_joe
but I mean, that I think that's got to make ah its way back into coaching staff where you've you've got to do something to make it seem like, okay, well, it's just not a pass.
00:34:33
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:34:40
Mike __kawanomike_
Yup.
00:34:41
iowa_joe
We're not going to cut you. But if you do something like this, your ass is mine.
00:34:45
Mike __kawanomike_
you gotta be smarter about it yeah exactly you got you gotta be smarter about it so but hopefully it won't come down to that you know like i said hopefully our defense will be able to confuse richard shitsam and keep stewart at bay and we'll be able to get to 24 points first and stay ahead of it but over unders joe what you got for us this week
Over/Under Predictions for Malik Willis
00:35:07
iowa_joe
This one is a combined passing and and rushing since Willis is kind of a dual threat. So one and a half touchdowns for Malik Willis.
00:35:17
Mike __kawanomike_
I'm going over because he has to. If Green Bay's gonna win, he has to.
00:35:24
iowa_joe
I'm going to say, I'm going to go under because I'm hoping that the floor will pull out all the stops and we'll get some jet sweeps and stuff like that kind of like we did against the Eagles where Reed is going to have maybe another rushing or Christian Watson has a rushing or somebody has a rushing on top of it.
00:35:48
iowa_joe
And it's not a touch pass. It's an actual jet sweep.
00:35:51
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:35:52
iowa_joe
So I want to go under in hopes that other facets of the game will step up to score the points and not put all the pressure right and not put all the pressure on Willis beings that he is short amount of time in the in this system.
00:35:58
Mike __kawanomike_
Could be a big Jacobs game, yeah.
00:36:10
iowa_joe
Two and a half sacks for the Packers defense I'm gonna go for three so I'll take the over I was so close last week with it that I i had the same number out there and I think it was just
00:36:15
Mike __kawanomike_
I'm going to go... I'm going under, but not because they're not going to get pressure. I think that they're going to pressure Richardson into mistakes, that's why. So i'm good I've got them at two sacks.
00:36:40
iowa_joe
barely miss getting the third one on there so i'm gonna go over just because i have a feeling it's gonna be the same type of thing that he's gonna get outside the pocket or he's gonna tried doing something yeah so Yeah, so I think it's going to be something like that, where it's not going to be a straightforward sack, where it's just some guy rushing up the middle and knock and taking him out or coming off the end.
00:36:49
Mike __kawanomike_
that Nick Finn stack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like the or like the one the one Lucas almost had where he almost tracked Kurtz down and stuff. So yeah, something like that.
00:37:08
iowa_joe
It's going to be some combination of it. So 63 and a half yards for Jacobs, and we'll cut it down to rushing.
00:37:17
Mike __kawanomike_
I'm going over again like the touchdowns cuz he has to
00:37:24
iowa_joe
I'm going to, I want to take the over also, but I have a feeling we're going to see a few more carries out of Emmanuel Wilson. And if Lloyd does play, you're obviously he going to get some carries out of him. So unless the Packers go big time up, it's going to be hard to spread the ball around between the three of them too much. So I guess I'm going to take the under, but I'm going to go slightly under.
00:37:52
iowa_joe
Last one is half an interception for McKinley. So either you're gonna he's gonna get one or he's gonna get McKinney not McKinley He's either gonna get one or he's gonna get I'm going to go over so I'm gonna say he does get the one and
00:38:03
Mike __kawanomike_
My grandma's high school, but no.
00:38:07
Mike __kawanomike_
um I'm going under purely because I think someone else is going to get the interception this week.
00:38:20
iowa_joe
I'm going to hate myself for making this prediction, but I really think this is going to happen just because of the the strength of schedule that the Packers have right now. McKinney is going to get super hot the first few weeks of the season, and then it's going to kind of disappear because other people are going to start either stepping up or they're going to.
00:38:41
Mike __kawanomike_
start getting picked on.
00:38:42
iowa_joe
They're going to.
00:38:43
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah Yeah, that's what I mean by other people are getting picked on.
00:38:43
iowa_joe
Yeah, yeah, or they're going to realize where McKinney's at and they're going to avoid that side of the field.
00:38:51
Mike __kawanomike_
So yeah.
00:38:52
iowa_joe
Yeah. So I'm going to say he's going to get at least one. So I take the over on that. And, and like I said, I have a feeling he's going to be super hot for the first couple of weeks of the season.
00:39:02
iowa_joe
And then it's just going to kind of tail off after that.
00:39:05
Mike __kawanomike_
Yeah.
00:39:06
iowa_joe
Not that he's going to be bad. Just, I think other factors are going to be in there.
00:39:08
Mike __kawanomike_
yeah yeah yeah it's he's the he's the shiny new toy and like you said other teams might not find the rookies that fast so yeah totally agree with you there anything else for us tonight joe or we're gonna keep this as short and sweet as we hope to
00:39:24
iowa_joe
I think we just keep it short and sweet because I still got to edit this and get it out for for Thursday. so
00:39:30
Mike __kawanomike_
sounds good so that's gonna do it for us tonight thank you for joining us on another opponent preview of the ohana packers edition podcast thank goodness we're gonna also we're gonna get out of here before my internet decides that it's not better than it was on sunday so we're gonna make a sauntering escape to stage left but please check out the website ohana packers.org posts are going up left and right our writers are doing hard good hard work out there streams of all of our shows all of cheese talk shows are on there check out our merch merch merch merch
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00:40:11
iowa_joe
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00:40:15
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00:40:46
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