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My Man Godfrey with Horrorwood
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Emma & Katie are joined by Kate and Kevin from the Horrorwood podcast to talk about the classic 1936 screwball comedy My Man Godfrey, and also the politics of killing bugs, Equity auditions, sanitization in Community Theatre, The Great Depression, Nicky and Paris Hilton, Rotten Tomatoes, RIP This Guy, and the disparity of the social classes in the 1930s.
Cut from this episode : Emma massively spoiling The Last of Us. So, dodged a bullet there.
Thanks so much to Kate & Kevin! You should listen to their podcast, and support their Patreon!
And catch us tomorrow on their show, as they tell us all about the tragic lives of William Powell and Carole Lombard, the two leads from this film!
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Transcript
Humorous Beginnings and Weather Talk
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Well, uh, yeah, I said yesterday, let's not put everyone's initials first initials together because that would be bad. Um, there's three.
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Oh no, there's three. And then an E, but like, I'm, it rhymes. There's three. And then an E, I think it works. That's like, if we had t-shirts, there's three and then an e don't ask us the letter.
00:00:27
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None of that would be, no, we're not going to do any of that. No, absolutely. Thank you for bringing it up in two different episodes, though. I appreciate that. I know. I know.
00:00:40
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I know. It's just because. Yeah. So, yeah. How's everyone's week going? Everybody surviving in this wonderful hellscape that we live in?
00:00:50
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It was a beautiful fall day today and I freaking loved it. Was it really? what's What's the weather like in Chicago right now? Today? It was like 65 today. Yeah. yeah Oh.
00:01:02
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ah I'm so jealous. It's so hot and gross here. It's disgusting. And it's like all of the, you know, it's bonkers.
00:01:14
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Okay. I just got back from England and um in England, nobody has AC and it's like, it's hot. And, but nobody has AC. And I'm just like,
00:01:27
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I don't understand. I don't get it. And then like all of their rooms, like all their houses are meant to like keep in heat. And none of the windows have windscreens on them like bug screens. So like if you open it, a bunch of bugs just come in. It's stupid.
00:01:42
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i don't like it.
Pest Problems and Neighborly Noise
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I hated that when I lived there, Emma. Like I remember, in I had this little studio flat that was right outside of an overgrown garden. And every time I would open up the window in the summertime, spiders, just everywhere. Spiders. Yeah. My worst nightmare. Your biggest fear. Screaming.
00:02:00
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Oh no. Absolutely not. Oh no. They don't tell you about the spiders in England. You guys, they do not tell you. No, there's lots of spiders. And um I had one of my husband's friends was like obsessed with saving all the spiders in his house.
00:02:15
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So like, if there was a spider, you couldn't kill it. He had to like usher it outside. Cause they love bugs. That's my boyfriend. We have to like, he gets mad. If I kill a bug, he's like, just take it outside.
00:02:29
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Let it live. Let it be in its natural environment. But what if don't want it live? I tried to get rid of the spiders. And i I tried to get them outside and be nice about it. And, you know, just, you know, try. I tried. But they just got progressively bigger to where I was like, I'm so sorry.
00:02:45
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i can't do this. Squish. Yeah. question yeah Yeah. Squish. Goodbye. I have an uneasy detente with spiders. Like, if a spider is, like... in his area doing his own thing, like, that's fine. And, like, we can ignore each other and we can live in peace. But if the spider, like, crosses the the line of of demarcation that I've created in my own mind, then it's it's capital punishment. that's That's the only recourse that I have. yeah If they don't respect personal space, I say everything's fair game. Yeah, exactly. yeah Or if they're too big. Like, if it's too big, no, it's gotta go.
00:03:25
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Yeah, you got to go. Yeah, you got go. We've been getting carpet beetles in our building. And like, it's not just our apartment, because like going down the stairs, you can see like outside the doors of all of the apartments in our building.
00:03:40
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ah We could see them like little carpet beetles. And the thing about carpet beetles. Yeah, it's not great. Go on. The thing about carpet beetles is. Is that when you see one, you think that's a cockroach, but then it's not a cockroach. So cockroaches are brown and flat and carpet beetles are black and round.
00:04:02
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um So, but, you know, on first glance, it's like a bug and it's the size of like a quarter and that's too big for a bug to be. um So it's very frightening. of But I think it's the...
00:04:16
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It's the rain is like, I think causing them to come like in, in sides. Cause it's been, um, yeah. So we don't, it's not like we see them every day and it's not like an infestation. It's just like on these days where we've had a lot of rain, like there's a beetle and I, um,
00:04:34
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I hate it. And it's like one of they're so big that like one hit won't kill it. So you've got to like hit it and then it's like twitching and you've got to hit it a second time. It's real bad. There's usually a stomp involved. You got to like really crunch crunch. Yeah.
00:04:48
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Yeah. The thing like i hit it but I hit it so hard. Like I'm definitely disturbing the neighbor downstairs. Oh God. Well, if they're dealing with the same issue that you're dealing with, they probably get They're probably like, oh that's a carpet beetle. Probably. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah Yeah. Or they just think that you're tap dancing. Anyway.
Audition Anecdotes and Guest Introduction
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Yeah.
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Yeah. mean We need a new apartment. Yeah. yeah Yeah. feel that. Bugs. Anyways, bugs. Famously not featured in today's film.
00:05:18
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No, they are not. That's right. That's right. That's right, guys. What segue. I know. Bugs. Bugs.
00:05:27
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And I feel like there's so many films with, they are, well, no, actually not a lot of rom-coms, but um like, I was just listening Not a lot of rom-coms have bugs in them. the did- certainly none that I want to watch. Yeah.
00:05:42
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Right? um But yes. Surely there's a rom-com about like an an entomologist or something. And that sounds like thing for- other people to watch. We saw the book. We saw the, when we went to the book. Yeah. There's a little rom-com book. um It was on the wall and it's about like a butterfly expert. It's like, you know, that typical rom-com book, like cover of two animated people.
00:06:05
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Like sure he's really grumpy and she loves butterflies and he does science and she loves art. And you know that they're going to get together and you know that it's going to be like an enemies to lovers. And you can just, you can tell.
00:06:17
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um But it was all about butterflies. And so, so yeah, there is a book about butterflies and love. So bugs. I love it. bug So bugs famously not featured, but not this movie. no No, no, no, no, no.
00:06:34
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um That's right guys. You guessed it. This is a go get your girl. This is the podcast where Emma, Katie, Kate, and Kevin. all decide that they're so fancy and so rich um that they go to lavish parties like Paris Hilton and they end up in a dump with their bitch of a sister. Whoa.
00:07:00
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Who wants to buy a human for a scavenger hunt.
00:07:06
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It's unhinged. That is what happens. But instead, they decide, no, this guy, I see, the he he could be a cutie. He's going to be my butler. and then they fall in love with him. He is a cutie, to be fair To be fair.
00:07:21
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Fall in love with him immediately, and then stalker-esque, just keep pining after him until we force him into marriage. Yes.
00:07:32
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That's right, guys. I'm Emma. That's right. I'm Katie. And I'm Kate. And I'm Kevin. Today we are talking about My Man Godfrey with the our special guests, Kate and Kevin from the Horrorwood podcast. Hello, hello. Welcome.
00:07:52
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Thank you. Thank you for having I'm so excited for today.
00:07:58
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It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a lot of editing on my phone. So today we are talking about, um do you do you want to like mention, do you want to talk about your podcast now or do you want to do it at the end?
00:08:11
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We'll just briefly say it now in case like it comes up later in the episode and people are like, why is she talking about death? um We, our podcast is about true crime in Tinseltown. so crime in the entertainment industry. We do like haunted theaters. We do unsolved mysteries. We do murder cases.
00:08:32
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and we, this is our first collab. So we're so excited that you guys asked us ah because it's a rom-com for you guys, but there's like tragic stuff that happens with the stars. So we'll talk about that on our episode, which I guess comes out tomorrow.
00:08:52
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um and yeah kevin do you want to add anything i don't think so that was a great summary kate yeah yeah amazing yeah and there's ties inside of this because kevin and emma used to work together we did oh my god i was thinking about that the other day were you thinking about actors equity I was. i just think about it randomly sometimes. I do too. We were audition monitors together and we started at the same time and we trained together and we saw many ah horrific, terrible, well not terrible, but horrific things that make you feel, you know what?
00:09:31
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Any clown can be an actor. yeah that's true. Yeah. Yeah.
Diving into 'My Man Godfrey'
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i um I didn't work for Equity, but I spent a lot of time at the Actors' Equity building in New York when I lived there because I worked for a theater and we would have to go to auditions there all the time.
00:09:48
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And it's amazing. like these are these These are Equity actors in New York who are like regularly getting jobs. They all have agents. They're all submitted there by one of the like the big four agencies in New York.
00:10:00
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And the people who come in for these things are sometimes just so completely delusional. It's, it's wild. so dumb My favorite, um my favorite audition I saw was someone who came in just completely stone faced and said, okay, so I'm going to be doing a scene from Valley of the Dolls. I'll be playing four characters and there is a struggle.
00:10:18
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And that is exactly what she did. Oh, that could either be great or terrible. It was not great. No. Um, Yikes.
00:10:29
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It's also like there's a standard under an expectation of what the the auditions are going to be. You know, like we asked for something. Yeah. That is not what she.
00:10:40
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was also an audition for a one woman play that was being performed by the person who wrote it. But because of equity rules, like every theater has to have auditions for every play, even if there's they're not they can't cast it. yeah So, yeah.
00:10:55
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yeah And the actors don't know that. The agents don't tell them that you know? Yeah, it's like, let's just waste your time. Prepare as much as you It was a waste of time for everyone involved. Yes, yes.
00:11:06
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Sometimes it gets a little bit better. Oh, sorry, you go. Oh, no, you're fine, Emma. I was just saying, I think one of the favorite one of my favorite auditions I worked at Equity was for a show that had a kid in it. And I had to do like a Saturday where it was a bunch of children auditioning.
00:11:21
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and Did you ever have to do that, any of those? And like- I did some chorus calls on Saturdays, but I don't think I ever did any of the ones for kids. I did some of the like Broadway ones where they would like audition in Chicago, but not any of the ones with the kids.
00:11:36
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Yeah, I did the kids ones and those were my favorite. the And not because of the kids. The kids were exceptionally well-behaved, kind little human beings walking The nicest kids.
00:11:49
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It's the parents that are insane. The stage moms, they would be like, oh, do you want some coffees? And like they'd run outside and they were all just telling each other these grand tales of their kids' auditions.
00:12:00
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yeah Insane. Hated it but loved every second of it. Yeah. Oh, no, wait. Actually, that's a lie. I did one that was at um the Joffrey and it was for, think it was Motown.
00:12:14
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And there was a kid that came in and his mom like would not stop talking to me. And it was I was in my 20s. It was a Saturday. i was hungover. i was just trying to eat my Jimmy John's.
00:12:27
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And this mom would not stop telling me about her son who was in the audition. To be fair, I think he got a callback in New York. Like he like wowed the producer. Like he did a great job. But um the mom would not stop talking to me.
00:12:39
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Yes. Yeah. It was a fun time. um
00:12:47
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Yeah. so today we are talking about ah the 1936 screwball comedy, My Man Godfrey. which I know all everyone who's listening to this podcast has seen multiple times. Yes. um But in case you haven't, um it is readily available on Amazon Prime. So you should watch it.
00:13:08
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um Yeah. And yeah, so i've got ah ah I've got quite a bit about the writers of this because all of them are interesting. Oh, I can't wait to hear this. Yes.
00:13:20
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This movie is directed by Gregory LaCava, who was a famous animator who did the Cats and Jammer Kids shorts and the Mutt and Jeff animated shorts, which were hugely popular animated um shorts in the 20s and 30s.
00:13:37
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Both of those you know have terms became shorthand for for idiots and wild ah children like throughout the most of the 20th century. They were super, super famous.
00:13:50
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um He also made a movie with W.C. Fields in 1926 called So's Your Old Man. Yeah, which that sounds like that. Which is basically that the equivalent of calling a movie Your Mom, which I kind of like. Yeah.
00:14:08
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I'm into that. yeah um yeah also made the movie He also made the movie Stage Door um right after this. And that was also a huge hit, which I i think we've probably all seen at least. The four of us being like into old movies. But rom-com lovers who listen to this may have may not have the may not have seen some of these older movies, and I think i think you should.
00:14:30
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um But yes, it is... ah So he is uncredited as the writer on the show, as on the movie as well. um But the main writer is a guy named Maury Ryskind, who...
00:14:44
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This is another in ah this is another ah induction into our um into our canon of Pulitzer Prize winners for drama who wrote a rom-com. Yes. This now the third one because Maury Ryskind won the Pulitzer for Of The I Sing, which he wrote with George Kaufman and the Gershwin Brothers. It was musical oh wow um in 1931.
00:15:09
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And he also wrote a bunch of Marx Brothers movies, and he also wrote Stage Door, which was the next movie by the same director as well. nice fan Nice. Then, in 1940, he grew disillusioned with the Communist Party and became a huge conservative, befriended Ein Rond and Ronald Reagan, appeared as a friendly witness in front of the WHO Act Committee, and was instrumental in creating the Blacklist, and then he never worked again. Great. We don't like that.
00:15:36
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Good.
00:15:39
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He is the credited screenwriter with Eric Hatch, who this this movie is based on his book. And he wrote a bunch of other comic novels and a couple of other screenplays for some of his lesser remembered books.
00:15:51
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But then there's another one. I'm almost done, I promise. How many writers there? last writer. Four. Four, okay. There's one last writer, another one uncredited, who was ah Zoe Akins, who is one of the most prominent, prolific female playwrights of the 20s and 30s. And she wrote so many plays and so many of them got turned into movies.
00:16:18
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um famous Her most famous plays were probably ah The Furies, which got turned into a movie. um And then ah the greeks have ah ah the Greeks have a word for it, which was another big play, ah Morning Glory, which got turned into a movie that won Katharine Hepburn her first Oscar.
00:16:35
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um She was the original writer for Showboat and then got fired. And then um she ah wrote, uncredited, How to Marry a Millionaire also.
00:16:47
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Oh, nice. Somebody else in this was in How to Marry a Millionaire. Yeah. Is she uncredited because- For women in Hollywood? Is she uncredited because she's a woman?
00:16:59
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Is that what happens? I don't think so. I mean, it's hard to say. There's not a ton of information about all of these things. yeah um I did- We're a no-research podcast. I know y'all are a research podcast. Yeah. We're a no-research podcast. I'm, like, asking all these questions. We're mild-research podcast. I did look into it a little.
00:17:18
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Yeah. I didn't get a lot of information on a lot of these things. um my she She wrote the plays for all of these things that got turned into movies. And my guess is that she got brought in to do a draft, and then her draft was rejected. That would be my guess.
Film Versions and Oscar Talk
00:17:32
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Probably because they were too risque, because that's what all of her plays kind of were. She was... um she was spicy she was in the like the Mae West kind of like play because Mae West wrote a lot of plays that were really popular and and sexy and stuff Mae West wrote a play called Sex which was on Broadway yeah yeah they're doing it at the community theater up the street from me they're doing Mae West's Sex they are and one of my friends from standardized patienting is in it
00:18:03
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I love that. I'm obsessed with that. It's funny that they didn't like change the name to something else, because as a community theater would do with like something risque. but you know with home they mark I mean, it was on Broadway in 1925. Surely, 100 years later, can do it at a community theater in Connecticut. could Sass.
00:18:24
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I saw a story recently where like a community theater was doing Rent, but they changed the disease to diabetes. Yes, I saw that! Oh, my God! um what isn't that insane no it's absolutely insane they were like what what happens to um to what's her face whenever she does she just take too much insulin and then she's the angel or forgets to take her insulin and then she sees angel there's like people going around with no feet like was everybody's just missing a foot by the end of it wow
00:19:01
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That's almost as bad as like um when in Greece for like high schools or middle schools, they re they make the abortion, um what is it, mono?
00:19:13
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They give her mono instead of having an abortion? What? that green junior yeah yeah like or like just greece but like the high school doesn't want to talk about abortions so they're like well what's her face um channard or um stalker channing has mono rizzo sorry rizzo I feel like it's like kids bop where you take these like very risque songs. It's kids seeing them. and It's like my neck, my back.
00:19:47
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I don't, don't know what they would change that to. Kate, change it now Tell us. i I want to know what they would change it to. My neck. My back. My lollipop is whack.
00:20:01
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no I don't know. don't know where lollipop came from. No, that's good. That's probably what would do. That's it. You nailed it first try. Yeah. I mean, there was a hot period of time when I, I think it was last time I was in Chicago and Katie and I went out and we were I just kept talking about um the KidSpot version of wap Wow.
00:20:21
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Which I don't know. i don't know if they had to do that one. Like they could have skipped that one. I think there's a du it's not for everybody. They didn't. Yeah. They didn't. They didn't.
00:20:33
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cool amazing so zoe akins also won the pulitzer prize for drama oh for the play the old maid so this she's uncredited on this but there are yeah but two writers uh in this movie are two more people we can add to our list of winners of the pulitzer prize for drama who wrote a rom-com yeah nice nice I'm filling out my letterbox list on that. Can I ask who is Alan Mosby? Because my first note is Alan Mosby is fun to say. He's in the movie. don't know Alan is. He's like listed like eight times in like the beginning credits. I was like, Alan Mosby.
00:21:13
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Alan Mosby. Alan Mosby. Alan Mosby. Oh no, did we watch the, did you, did you watch the right movie? did. My man Godfrey. Alan Mowbray? Okay, well, there's there is a remake of it.
00:21:26
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Maybe it's Alan Mowbray. He played Tommy. Oh, okay, cool. Thank you. Oh, thank God. Thank God. Okay. Okay, because like, here's the thing, because when I looked this up, the first hit was the remake in 1957, and it suddenly occurred to me that we didn't distinguish. yeah No, you can watch it for free on Prime in black and white, and then you can watch it for free on Prime with ads in color, and then there's some other options.
00:21:55
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I don't know.
00:21:57
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Wait, is it this version in color? It's not the remake? It said My Man Godfrey in color. I didn't look too much into it. Oh, wow. It must have been one of those Turner things. Because like Ted Turner in like the 80s colorized a bunch of black and white movies for TBS. So that must be what it was. yeah Yeah, it was probably that. Because it looked like it was it was our our two leads, Carol Lombard and that and Godfrey.
00:22:22
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William Powell. that william power Godfrey. And that Godfrey guy. That guy over there. That Godfrey, who everybody loves. he is a He is a handsome um man.
00:22:37
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He's a very handsome man. William Powell was the thin man. um And he was in love the like quite like six or seven different thin man movies. yeah ah He was a hot commodity back then. Yeah.
00:22:51
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He was real cool. He was... um This movie also was nominated for six Oscars, we should say. Which is bananas. It was the first. Right? it is It is kind of bananas. It's the first movie to get Oscar nominations for actor, actress, best supporting actress, and best supporting actor.
00:23:09
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And I feel like of the four of those, one of those guys is not really pulling his weight with the other three. Like... um What is his name? Carlo got nominated for Best Supporting Actor.
00:23:21
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I mean, thought he did a great job. I'm kind of obsessed with Carlo, but I was surprised that Gail Patrick didn't get nominated over the mom, over Alice Brady, because Gail Patrick as a sister...
00:23:36
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She's so good against all of their crazy because she's so like such a straight player. And I love watching her. Yeah. And she's the one that didn't get nominated. i feel like.
00:23:47
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Yep. That's insane. Yeah. But Alice Brady is so funny in this too. Like this was back in the time where. like a really good comedic performance would still get nominated for Oscars. yeah You know, like it's, I feel like Alice Brady is really funny in this. If not, if she doesn't necessarily have like a real character or a lot to do, she is like, she gets the most, she gets a lot of laughs. She says it really fast and really loud.
00:24:12
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Oh my God. They talk so fast. That's like eight of my notes. Yeah. That's screwball, baby. Yeah. Katie, I also love how you said, well, this was back in the time when a really good comedic performance would still get nominated for an Oscar.
00:24:26
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Because it does not happen. I mean, yeah. um Yeah. Absolutely not. Would you not count Emma Stone in, um ah ah ah what was the movie that was female Frankenstein? Poor Things. Poor Things.
00:24:39
Speaker
Yeah. That's kind of comedic. I mean, it is definitely a comedy drama. I think that like, but it's not like, you know Melissa McCarthy and bridesmaids getting nominated is a good example of that actually happening. Like that's just a straight up, like she's so funny in this. She deserves the ticket nominated, you know? I feel like, um, uh, Emma Stone in La La Land
00:25:09
Speaker
Well, that's hard because that movie is such a hot shit. Hate that movie. That movie can die. It's awful. It's one of the worst movies ever made.
00:25:21
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It's really, really bad. umm oh no yeah It's a guilty pleasure of mine. I really like it. The three K's are against you. Right? Sorry. sorry Outvoted. God damn it.
00:25:34
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La La Land! Also, La La Land, not a comedy at all, not a comedic performance. Like, very, very serious. Dead silence!
00:25:47
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dead silence
00:25:53
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So my man Godfrey, yeah Emma basically went over the main plot
Film's Social Themes and Characters
00:25:57
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already. Yeah. And it starts, so it's 1936. It is the the the depression, you know? um There are a lot of people who have lost their jobs, who have lost everything, who are living in camps in the dump and lots of other places. Like these, I think it's important to note the difference between Like the people who are um these unhoused people in this movie and what another movie would consider like, like but and at the time they would be called like hobos or bums or something. like
00:26:33
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Like the people in um Sullivan's Travels or something. Like oh there were a lot of movies made at this time about a lot of these people. these unhoused people who were traveling across the the country trying to find work, doing whatever they could. yeah um And that is kind of what we are dealing with in this camp here, as opposed to the um you know, millions of unhoused people today, which is a, it has a different um place in the culture, I think. Yeah, I don't see anyone in Hollywood going, you know what we should do?
00:27:10
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We should make a movie about a bunch of unhoused people and make a screwball comedy. They would not do that today, nor would they sound like that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
00:27:23
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um They should, though. they real That's the problem part of the problem with Hollywood today is that Hollywood producers don't talk like that anymore. Well, and because they don't want to humanize those people. they they They would much rather not show that and sweep it under the rug and not show that and just show pretty Hollywood.
00:27:43
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And there was like... so So part of it is that like... I don't, i I, I obviously I wasn't alive in the great depression. So I'm not a hundred percent sure about like what the, um what the, the place in society ah these, these people had, if they were,
00:28:02
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treated the way a lot of people treat unhoused people now, or if there was like a third kind of strata that they existed in. And my guess would be that that's the latter. yeah But I don't know enough about the history to know for sure.
00:28:15
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I learned a little bit from Kit, Kitteridge, American Girl doll. Of course. Wow. Yes. 1920 something.
00:28:26
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and here for And her dad lost his job and he was still treated relatively the same. Relatively. Relatively.
00:28:37
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Relatively. Sure. Relatively. Yeah. but um But yeah, I think it's the latter. Kit Kitteridge taught me that. so these horrible women come down to the city dump on a scavenger hunt trying to find a forgotten man. And we are introduced to Irene and what is her horrible sister's name?
00:29:00
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Cornelia. Yeah. That even sounds like a bitch name. Cornelia. Looking for... a forgotten a forgotten man at this big party at the um at the waldorf ritz hotel that they're going to yeah and then and so they have to explain what well um irene has to explain what a scavenger hunt is versus a treasure hunt and you have to ask yourself why would you do that versus a treasure hunt you don't get anything well
00:29:32
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she's not, um, she's not the most astute, uh, person in the world. And she describes it as a treasure hunt is a hunt for something that everybody wants. And a scavenger hunt is some, is a hunt for something that nobody wants. Yep.
00:29:45
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And that's kind of where Godfrey is placed at the beginning of this movie. yeah He, uh, agrees to go to the hotel with her mostly just to upset Cornelia because she treated him like shit. And yeah, Irene treated him a little bit better. because you tell Like not, yeah.
00:30:02
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great like she did speak to him like a human being which is more than cornelia did but like and a lot of that was because cornelia just straight up abandoned her cornelia was like she got thrown into that pile of ash by godfrey and then she was like deuces i'm out of here and she just left her sister in this camp with a bunch of men and was with like just bye And so she's trying to make the best of a situation and um sweet little but Irene is like, best friend, you want to be my best friend?
00:30:34
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And they're all wasted. like yeah they are all wasted. They are extremely wasted. yeah And I don't think they like make that clear until the next morning whenever all the shit's gone down.
00:30:44
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It's like, what is happening? There's pygmies running around the mom's room. Right. There's a horse in the library. There's a horse. Yeah. horse.
00:30:55
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The girls can hold their liquor because they did not seem that drunk, really. i And I think Cornelia smashed some windows. Yeah.
00:31:06
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She smashed a bunch of windows on Fifth Avenue and Irene stole a horse from a cab driver, rode it up the stairs and left it in the library. Left it in the library. And it's just like their poor father who just like constantly just like, oh, my daughters.
00:31:21
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Oh, what a mess. What a madhouse. Eugene Pallet. Yes. The great Eugene Pallet who plays a very similar character in one of my favorite movies, The Lady Eve. um um This...
00:31:35
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He's got this voice that you can't forget. um Sounds like ah like a fork in a garbage disposal. can we talk about some of the items on that scavenger hunt list?
00:31:47
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Yes. Oh, absolutely. A bowl of Japanese fish. Where would you get that? In New York. I mean, you're not going to Japan. New York's got everything, baby.
00:31:59
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new york yeah never New York City. York City. There's goats, there's monkeys.
00:32:07
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I mean, i have them break into the zoo. Like that's the only way that that someone can win this is to break into a zoo. Kevin and I are very rich and they can do whatever they want. Exactly. They have money so they can do anything they'd like.
00:32:22
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Kevin and I have talked about the use of animals in films before, and we'll go like into a deep dive at some point in the future, but like, we and we were He came over last night we were sitting on my couch watching this.
00:32:34
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And just like the way that they're just kind of throwing the animals to each other and like, all right, here's this baby goat. Bye. And we were horrified. We're oh my God.
00:32:48
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Poor baby goat. Yeah, I don't think the ASPCA approved this one, probably. oh it It was rough. Yeah. At least we had those monkeys in those costumes.
00:32:59
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Yeah. Yeah, i was like, when i when they said the horse, i was like, oh, man, they're going to have this horse in there. But no, it's just the sound. Yeah, just standard. What noise do horses make?
00:33:12
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um I don't know. what That was perfect. I think that was great. Thank you. Thank you. Professional actor over here. So he gets at the hotel, he gets up there like give a speech and he insults everyone, which good for him. Yeah.
00:33:29
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And she's like, Oh my god, i need what do you need? well How can I help you? And he's like, Well, I need a job. And she's like, Can you bottle? And he's like, so Yeah, probably. yeah so she hires him as their new butler but and that's the that's the premise of the film yeah basically and that's when i learned that buttle was a word can you say yeah have wait have have that have that have you seen this movie before no i had seen it when we just when we talked about it and then i watched it again with kevin last night
00:34:05
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Nice. Okay, okay. um Yeah, i've watch I've watched it a couple of times. I first saw it years and years ago for, what I think I was just watching a bunch of screwball comedies. um I really liked it um when I saw it, and I probably have about the same feeling on it now. Yeah. um i wanted us to watch it ages ago when we did it Happened One Night because of the wonderful relationship that I learned about Carol Lombard and... um uh clark gable and how in love they were and i was just like that's so sweet i want to watch something that she's in um which actually this is that's an excellent excellent segue to the first of emma's fun facts emma's fun facts um so william powell who plays godfrey suggested his ex-wife ex-wife carol lombard yeah for for the leading role um with the explanation
00:34:59
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that his real life romance with her had been much the same as it was for the characters of Godfrey and Irene, which is not a compliment when you watch this movie. and production was like not where she just buggged him into marrying Production was like, we need someone who's like super ditzy and kind of wild and just like a little bit annoying. And he's like, know the perfect person.
00:35:24
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My ex-wife. Yeah. But they were actually really good friends, even after they divorced. Yeah. But still, I mean, like, by the time that this movie ends and when we get to the ending and you know that fact, you're just like, huh.
00:35:39
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Yeah. I told Kevin that last night when we were watching it. I was like, ah so what's <unk> interesting here? Like, you're basically seeing their marriage yeah play out in this movie.
00:35:51
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Which it seems like there's only one willing participant. Yeah. It really does. Yeah. um And so I guess like, you know, that's why they didn't make a sequel. Yeah. I was going to say, I feel like the sequel would be a murder mystery instead, or not even a murder mystery. Maybe like, I don't know, a silence of the lambs type thing.
00:36:11
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would they kill? Irene. They would probably kill her. Who's like, I need to get out of this marriage. Oh God. It just, it starts from the wedding.
00:36:22
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Yeah. I mean, like he, he only said that he doesn't really go into a lot of detail as to why he loved Boston. We only know some details. We don't know all the details.
00:36:32
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Maybe it was murder. ah Son of Sam. Godfrey's a serial killer is what you're pitching. Yeah. Yeah. Godfrey's son of Sam. There you go.
00:36:44
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The Boston Strangler. Origins. Yes, Origins.
00:36:53
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So Godfrey comes in the next morning looking snatched. Yeah. And um everybody is like, who is this guy? And he's like, I'm the... I'm the the um i here to butdle. Unwanted man. but is I forgot what called him immediately. yeah The forgotten man. I'm the forgotten man from last night. And he has to like...
00:37:14
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deal with this horrible family. um The... And it's just... It's all screwball characters, yeah right? Like, the Cornelia is evil. Yep. And um Angelica is so...
00:37:29
Speaker
What is Angelica? How would you describe Angelica? What does her character tell you? Is that the mom? Mom, yeah. mom? Yeah. I said that she, I asked, I was like, oh my God, is this Kelly Bishop?
00:37:39
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Because like from the moment she opened her mouth, I was like, Kelly Bishop? Gilmore Girls? Well, I mean, ah Emily Gilmore is a lot smarter than Angelica. Emily Gilmore is more refined. Whatever her last name Yeah.
00:37:54
Speaker
But they just look a lot like Kelly Bishop. This woman is deranged. Yes. Okay. She is like, she has a protege in Carlo who is this presumably Italian man who um plays piano badly and does a gorilla impression and she just thinks he's the best. yeah Isn't he clever? Isn't he clever? She screams. Which is um actually leads me to another fun fact, Katie. I won't do the theme song because we already did it, but...
00:38:27
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um in earlier drafts of this movie carlo is identified as angelica's gigolo and the entire oh bullock family openly refers to him as such in the dialogue um if and so yeah it became a big issue when it gets to irene's part where she goes if mother can have carlo why can't i have godfrey Yeah, that that actually makes a lot of sense. That sounds like one of those Zoe Akin things that got ah cut out of the movie along with her credit in it. Yeah.
00:38:59
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And so Irene is obsessed with Godfrey. he She treats him like a pet. yeah And she's like, ever since my Pomeranian died, I need something to love. And so she's decided on Godfrey.
00:39:13
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Because that's that's healthy. That's a healthy way to start a relationship is to run replace a pet with a human being.
00:39:22
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um Cornelia hates him and is going to try to sabotage him because he was dared to be rude to her and tries a couple of different ways to um to get rid of him and implicate him yeah um the the main the main one is where she hides her pearl necklace in his bed and then claims it's been stolen and gets the cops to find it but yeah when they pull the mattress back it's not there and she's like what do you mean it's not there Yeah. And then the dad straight through it. So he wins on her. Did anybody else think, though, that Cornelia was super horny also for Godfrey?
00:39:57
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She was also super horny for Godfrey. She was like mean in a really sexy way. I could see that, Emma. Absolutely. yeah you it Kind of an on underneath. It was sort of in the eyes at times, like a sparkle. Oh, yeah.
00:40:10
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She always talked to him this far apart. Yeah. Yeah, it also surprised me that like, everybody falls in love with Godfrey. I really expected more from the maid Molly. yeah because I thought she was kind of like a tough bitch. She's like, these people are fucking crazy. Like, hate you know, whatever, had her head down in a book. And then Irene comes in. And then she's like, I love him. I love him. And then Molly's like, me too. And they start crying together.
00:40:35
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and I was like, Molly, honey. Yeah. No. You know nothing about this man. Like, what how are you in love with him? is it because he talked to you? Like, that doesn't seem healthy. Also, he shaved. Like, it was so funny with the unhoused, or not unhoused, the forgotten man thing. Like, they're all like, oh, your scruffy beard, your scruffy beard. And then he shaves and everyone's like, we love you.
00:40:57
Speaker
but who is this gorgeous man? It was a five o'clock shadow. Yeah. yeah It wasn't even that thick. Yeah. ah god well at the hotel they're like are those whiskers real someone else tried to pass someone off with false whiskers mean but did nobody have a beard in the 1930s i guess not right um you just had the little mustache and that was all yeah and that's how you were sexy
00:41:25
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But here's the thing. I mean, like, can't be with the maid. The maid actually lower class. he's not. That's the twist. that would be, you know, inappropriate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the twist. But he becomes really good friends with her. And she misreads their friendship.
00:41:40
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It happens to the best of us. Yeah. Yeah. Who among us hasn't fallen in love with a butler that the crazy family you worked with hired? I mean, for hand raised.
00:41:51
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I can't even go into someone's house if they have a butler. I just, I know myself and it wouldn't. Same. Jaw the floor. I'd be like, you want went to someone's house and a butler answered. i would I would just be like, I got to go. I'm sorry. I'm clearly in the wrong place. I can't cause any more family drama.
00:42:09
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Right. I can't break up any more families over this. I'm sorry.
00:42:18
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Oh, man. But we we do get our twist. Yeah, they all they all have their thing. Like, Irene's thing is that she's incredibly dramatic, which, same girl, I get it. um Yeah.
00:42:31
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She kisses Godfrey, and he tells her it's inappropriate, and then she goes into this elaborate, like, depressive performance thing. where She stops eating! Fainting,
00:42:43
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You won't eat. She's like, some people don't care if I live or die. And I'm like, I bet she's a cancer.
00:42:53
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She's probably getting used to getting everything that she's ever asked for and wants it. Oh, absolutely. these people like this movie is so problematic in so many ways.
00:43:09
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I mean, it is 90 years old. yeah Yeah. Oh my God. I mean, she decides because she finds out Godfrey is, um, quote unquote, has a wife and, five children that she must get engaged. And so she just decides on some random dude who just has a crush on her and he's just, he just goes along with it and nobody questions anything. They're like, no, I think she's getting engaged.
00:43:34
Speaker
Yeah, her mom, her dad asked her mom who she's getting married to. do So I don't know, Van something or other. Like that guy not involved in these people's lives at all. Yeah, but it sounds like she's done that before.
00:43:44
Speaker
yeah exactly. no, no, no. Definitely. It's it's another broken engagement, like the newspaper says, like when she goes to Europe. Yeah. yeah She goes to, it's like ah one of like a gajillion. she They're very much, i I saw them as Nikki and Paris Hilton.
00:44:02
Speaker
And I don't know who was who. But I have to assume that she was Paris. I don't know enough about them to to to be included in this conversation. I think Cornelia would be Paris. I think Irene is Nikki. Because of the Stop Being Poor shirt. That's the...
00:44:23
Speaker
That's the limit of my knowledge. Oh, you never watched The Simple Life? No, Emma, I never watched The Simple Life.
00:44:33
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Don't you know me well enough to know i didn't watch The Simple Life?
00:44:41
Speaker
But, but, it's like but. Somebody works at, have you been watching, have you been watching Love Island? I'm like, what about me makes you think I've been watching Love Island?
00:44:55
Speaker
true but they should do a remake with um well we should get a time machine go back in time and then get a younger Y2K Nikki and Paris Hilton do a remake with them and then that would be great would that be great i right Kevin would love that Paris Hilton could write a song for it or work with a producer now and then she could DJ at the Ritz ah at the dump nightclub at the end okay nightclub the dump oh it turns out to be a furniture store we use the actual dump yeah the dump to the dump or whatever have you heard that is it think that's only in chicago right is okay i feel like it is the dump furniture store yeah yeah i think that's just a chicago thing so listeners not in the midwest might not know never mind that and menards menards don't explain it they big money
00:45:53
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Don't explain Menards. Just leave it at that Have you ever gone to Menards and gone to no the food section? Emma, what about me makes you think I've ever been to Menards?
00:46:08
Speaker
Wait. Stop everything. There's a food section at Menard? There's a grocery, like a little grocery. And um we, Charlie and I used to go, i don't know. um Charlie and I used to go because that's where they had all the Sprecher flavors.
00:46:24
Speaker
Sprecher is like a ah soda brand. And they had like all the Sprecher flavors. So like we would go to Menards specifically just for Sprecher, root beer, and like cream soda. um But you walk through it and it's got big divorce dad and like energy. Like this is where dad goes to buy his groceries.
00:46:43
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Yeah. That checks out. It's a hardware store, we should say to people not in Chicago or I guess the Midwest. yeah Menards is an unlikely named hardware store.
00:46:55
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. divorce Divorced dads. Divorced dads. Divorced dads. Apparently. Yeah. where We're British men. Can we go to that section of Menards?
00:47:08
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Live episode from the soda section of Menards. live Live from Menards food section. I mean, I'm pretty sure you you might get some serial killers. Emma and I keep saying that we're going to do, we already did a Mystic Pizza episode, but we're going to go to Mystic Pizza in Mystic, yeah Connecticut, and we're going to record our Pretty Woman episode there.
00:47:25
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That's our... It's our promise to listeners. definitely is not a busy restaurant at the quietest of times.
00:47:36
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Won't be a huge problem for everyone. yeah You'll be fine. yeah
00:47:41
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And hey, the pizza kind of slaps. I'm not lie. I've eaten there like, it's every time I go to Mystic, I eat at Mystic Pizza. But there's no... um Just classic Portuguese pizza.
00:47:51
Speaker
Yeah, there's no Julia Roberts. Well, actually, it's just pizza.
00:47:57
Speaker
It's not like special Portuguese pizza like in the movie? It's just like like we get the buffalo chicken. like it's It's just like pizza.
00:48:08
Speaker
Massively disappointed. But it's pizza. Sure, whatever. and wanted the Portuguese touch. I mean, ah guess. um ah Yes. So then Tommy shows up and it's someone that Godfrey knows and Emma, why don't you explain Godfrey's whole
Godfrey's Clever Plan and Film's End
00:48:27
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deal?
00:48:27
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So Godfrey's whole deal. So Godfrey turns out because we can't have a protagonist who's poor in a Hollywood film. Heaven forbid. course not.
00:48:37
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Of course not. So spoiler and twist. Godfrey comes from an aristocratic family Boston. And they're so fancy and so rich that he they tell everyone that he's in South America because he did something to like, um to, what's it called? um Make them ashamed of him.
00:49:02
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um they He had a bad breakup. Yeah, he had a bad breakup, which we don't know. where that ended. Did it end in a body? Did it end in two parties walking away alive?
00:49:14
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We don't know. He had to go away. He did give her all his money. He said he gave her all his money. feel like it left with And he came to new New York to kill himself and then found the the encampment of people there.
00:49:29
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don't know why I laughed at that. Because it's excellent alibi.
00:49:35
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like god And the way like the way he mentions the suicide, like it's so Right? It's such a thrown away line. Oh, yeah. He's like, yeah, I saw the waves coming in. Thought just slip right in. and like And then he goes on to the next thing. i was like, oh, yeah.
00:49:52
Speaker
And then he was like, then there were some dudes there, and they were pretty chill. In all movies, it was treated pretty lightly until, I mean, I don't know, 2012, 2013, when people started like treating suicide with any degree of of respect or subtlety in in movies. Because we've watched...
00:50:09
Speaker
A lot of movies that yeah deal heavily with a lot of rom-coms that deal a lot with suicide, not in a serious way for sure. Yeah. No. I mean, like, it's such like a big, um, like plot point to it's a wonderful life.
00:50:22
Speaker
And it's just sort of like, yeah, I mean, the lost all the money. I guess I'm going to go jump off this bridge. I mean, also, I guess it was super common for rich people to kill themselves when they lost their money in the depression, too. I mean, like, there were all those people who jumped out of windows on Black Tuesday or whatever.
00:50:41
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Yeah. Do we think that that's what their dad was going to do? who um Possibly, yeah. um bla
00:50:53
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You know, I think we were fine without the sound of effect, actually, on that. Yeah.
00:51:00
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I liked it. Yeah. I mean, it's in the past. It's history. Don't worry. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. um But yeah, he was going to go commit suicide. he he got broken up with.
00:51:13
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And he's like from this fancy like aristocratic family in Boston. And his friend, who he went to Harvard with, shows up at this party that he's buttling at. And he goes, oh, hey, I know you.
00:51:27
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Godfrey. And he's just like, Godfrey. Not a common name, even in 1936. Yeah. And everyone's like, um don't you mean Godfrey Smith?
00:51:39
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And he's like, no, no, no, no. We went to Harvard together. And um everyone's like, wow, our brother has a college education? And on the fly, he's like, no, I was his valet.
00:51:52
Speaker
And boy, oh boy, did we have quite the long relationship. And it was great. And they're like, well, then why did you leave him? And why didn't you use him as a reference? And so he was like, you tell the story, Tommy.
00:52:05
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So Tommy on the fly tells everyone that it's because he has a wife and five children and he had to go back to his wife. And they say yeah eventually some, would you say racist things about his wife?
00:52:19
Speaker
That's not real. I would say. racism um Yeah, for sure. oh yeah super racing Yeah. Yeah. They're horrified. He might be, he might have some native American, um,
00:52:30
Speaker
And his family, for sure. oh I thought it was Indian, like from India.
00:52:38
Speaker
Yeah, I took it as Indian from India. Oh, maybe it's... Well, he said that he said how long that... She says, how long has your family been here? And he says, as long as... We're from here as long as far as I know. And she goes, well, certainly not Indian, right?
00:52:52
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He said, you no one never knows about their past. Maybe it's because we don't call Native Americans Indians anymore. That we assumed Indian from India. I'm sure they had a worse a racist name for that in the 20s.
00:53:08
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Probably. Probably. ne Like a professional football team style name for it. Anyways. So he meets up with his buddy and he's like, I've got a plan. And he takes him to the dump and he's like, let me tell you about this plan I have. yeah And then we cut months past by where the the Bullock girls go to to Europe to forget about Irene's engagement and they come back and she's like, Godfrey, didn't you miss me? And he's like, not really. Wait, is this before or after the shower?
00:53:45
Speaker
The engagement shower? Oh no, where he he puts her in the shower. puts her in the shower. this is this That's before the shower. where' you're You're doing great chronologically. That's towards the end. yeah that's yeah That's when she's like, I love him, I love him, I love him.
00:54:00
Speaker
She passes out and he throws her over his shoulder and runs up two flights of stairs with her over his shoulder. I'm like, heavens. Yeah. Good job. Right? Well, because she's an unbroken shot. Yeah. She, she faints because she's so in love with him and so heartbroken that like he, he doesn't really, she quote unquote faints.
00:54:22
Speaker
quote unquote faints. Yeah, she's faking it like she always is. Yeah. yeah And like it really badly because he looks in the mirror and she like opens her eyes and sits up and then he goes, h darn you, Irene.
00:54:33
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And he i was waiting for him to like take a sorry. I was waiting for him to like take a pitcher of water and just throw it in her face. Hit her with something. Like, come on, you know she's faking. Tevin goes immediately to violence. He's like, I was waiting for him to hit her with something.
00:54:50
Speaker
Why didn't he just hit her? I mean, it's the 30s. That's not Bob. He could have like, what other old movie did we watch where somebody just straight up slaps the lady? Was it It Happened One Night where he just like straight up slaps her? yeah And you're just like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's I think it happened one night. Yeah.
00:55:05
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Yeah. Well, she was being unreasonable. we yeah Jesus Christ. That must hurt. Clark Gable can slap me anytime he wants to.
00:55:20
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um Anyway. Anyway. So he does he does one better than that, than throwing water in her face. He puts her in the shower and turns the cold water on her. And she is ecstatic because he this means that he loves her because he cared enough um to ah to to fuck with her back like she's just like reading these signs and see okay so we just did 500 days of summer and like we watched these like two like another another completely unproblematic film yeah yeah and so i just kept thinking like you're reading into these signals wrong girl like he's just flat out telling you he does not love you he does not want to marry you he does not want to marry you and she's just like nah nah nah i love him
00:56:10
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I love him. That doesn't matter. It's not even that she doesn't believe that that's true. It's just that it doesn't matter because other people's um feelings and wants are not relevant to her.
00:56:22
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Exactly. i feel like anything he did to her, she would be like, she he loves me. Like she's getting a silkwood shower from him and like, you know, and she's like, and i I love you too. Right. He straight up just slaps her.
00:56:38
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Oh, he loves me. It was a love tap. It was a love tap. Like Jesus Christ, Irene. Like, don't know. Have some dignity for yourself.
00:56:49
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Maybe have some authority or I don't come down from the clouds. Like it was just so ridiculous and insane. Yeah. yeah And she doesn't.
00:57:00
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It's funny because like it she goes that way the whole time. like there's At the beginning, the beginning was like the only moment because I was struggling to see, yeah does he actually love her? like Is there something there?
00:57:12
Speaker
But I couldn't find or pinpoint a moment. And the only thing I could think of was at the beginning, they did have kind of a nice sort of quiet like conversation. Where you sort maybe could feel something but then that completely goes away is never touched upon again. All the way. level Right. And it's just like, yeah and as you watch the movie, that's just Godfrey. That's just how Godfrey treats people like he's just a nice guy.
00:57:37
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he wants to help all of these forgotten men and give them homes. Like he's just nice. ah He is a saint in this movie, for sure. Yeah, um he it is. it's It's the nature of the genre. I mean, that's what a screwball comedy is. It's like this a deranged person, usually the woman, but not not necessarily always, and a centered person.
00:58:01
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And that person like drawing something out of the other person. um And in this case, like just wearing them down, I guess.
00:58:13
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He doesn't even fight that hard at the end, guys. I think i think that he doesn't have it in he wants you the movie wants you to believe that he does actually care about her because he does say like,
00:58:24
Speaker
does When asked if he likes her, he's like, well, yes, I like you, but you know i I've given up on marriage because my previous relationship. you know i can't yeah I can't do this for another reason. He never actually says you know to um to Tommy or to um whoever the other person, don't remember who it is, um talks to him about her. He doesn't say, i don't.
00:58:46
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like her i don't love her he yeah explains it a away as something else so i think the movie thinks that but you don't really you don't really see it much in the academy award nominated performance no no it's very much like he's just like bitch be crazy If anything, I thought that he was going to fall for Cornelia.
00:59:04
Speaker
That's what thought. I thought maybe there was going to be a little flip. I thought maybe it was going to go a different way. I was like, oh, I don't love that, but I could see it. But, you know, I do love that moment in the kind of have more in common. Yeah, yeah they do.
00:59:18
Speaker
I and especially like that moment in the bar when he she's like, what do you really think of me? And he turns and he's like, I think you're a spoiled brat on Park Avenue. Yeah. Mm hmm. Well, she should change her ways.
00:59:31
Speaker
And then they fall in love. And then they do it. Yes. Is that the motion? And then they just fuck. And then they just fuck like this.
00:59:44
Speaker
Oh, no. They both have little drawn on mustaches. Yeah. Yeah. yeah I did want to, I wanted to look up who won these acting awards and what the other nominees were.
00:59:59
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And I am like, again, as someone who has seen quite a bit of movies from the 1930s, I am pretty unfamiliar with all of these movies. So 1936 might've been a bit of a weak year.
01:00:12
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I mean, if something was going to be nominated, I would say it is not, it was nominated for screenplay. I would say if I were going to like, you know nominate this movie for something, it would be screenplay before probably all of the other yeah um awards this movie was nominated for.
01:00:25
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um The story of Louis Pasteur swept the 1937 Oscars. Jesus. Okay. um Which I've never seen and never heard of, but it won Best Actor, Best Screenplay. It somehow won Best Writing and Best Screenplay. I don't know what the difference between those two things are.
01:00:45
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um The Great Ziegfeld, which I have heard of but not seen, one Best Actress, um a movie called Come and Get It, um and Mr. Deeds Goes to Town won Best Director for Frank Capra. So that's, yeah, that makes sense. yeah Okay.
01:01:02
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Yeah. Did they win the Oscars that year? I know that they were nominated because I think I saw... No, they won none. That's what I thought. and Because they were the only film to be nominated for that many awards and win absolutely none of them until 2013 and um ah American Hustle.
01:01:25
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Or 2016. Oh, a completely forgotten movie. Yeah, or whenever American Hustle was. um Another movie that deserved no Oscars. Yeah.
01:01:36
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My man Godfrey has like a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. How? I mean, like, it's great. It's good. But it's like not the best. And I'm. Well, that's what. I mean, that's what Rotten Tomatoes is. Like, it just means that 97% of the critics that wrote something about it said it was good.
01:01:54
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Not that it was, you know, 97% out of 100 for everyone. True. True. for everyone you true very true that's why rotten tomatoes is not a good um metric of of if a movie is uh it's a good metric of if a movie is is pretty good is it but not a good metric of if a movie is like yeah oh sorry american yeah american hustle was 2013 um also is rotten tomatoes the one that hates the lgbt plus community Oh, shit. Do they? Okay, so you're probably talking about the audience score, which is where, like, a lot of chuds will go in and... Because they they they have the critics score and then the audience score, and then people will, like...
01:02:35
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for Zack Snyder's Justice League, right? Like, they'll go and super, like, all these people will organize online because that's where they live. Yeah. And decide to, um to like, put their finger on the scale for the audience score to greatly over, um to to over-report it, right? So it has a huge audience score and, like, a very terrible critic score.
01:02:56
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And that's true of all of those, like, bro movies, really, that have the... um Yeah. The review bombing is what it's called. And they'll do the same thing for movies that they consider woke, where they'll go in and a bunch of people will organize on Reddit and go and and and give it negative reviews to try to lower the audience. Yeah.
01:03:13
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Katie taught me that if you ever want to see if a show has a gay storyline that pops up, go and see the audience score because it'll automatically tank in that season. And then you know, oh, there's a great LGBT friendly storyline that happens in this season.
01:03:27
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going to watch that show. That's IMDB, which is basically the same thing. Like, yeah, you go, if you look at like a TV show, like list of episodes and you see the IMDB rating, like just completely tanked.
01:03:38
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I mean, sometimes it could be that the show got really bad, but nine times out of 10, it's because something gay happened. Yeah. Wow. I feel like I saw that happen though. Like with the last of us, the episode three. Yeah.
01:03:49
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Oh, sure. Yeah. I love The Last of Us. i haven't watched it. I think this last season was so great and everybody was hating it. I only saw the first season. First season's good.
01:04:00
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I don't know how I felt about this last season. i Yeah, i but I didn't get me as... Yeah, I did too. And then i I'm not thrilled about where they're going with the third one. But I don't know. We'll see.
01:04:12
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Apparently it's like the game... don't know. I don't play video games. Based on the reception of the video games, people are about to hate it a lot more in the third season. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cool.
01:04:23
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Cool. So Godfrey's big plan was to raise a bunch of money and get jobs for all of the the people who live down by the dump yeah that he you know became friends with. And he with his friend Tommy, gets a bunch of money and builds a nightclub ah and the at the out on the dump, which makes sense because it's a, um it's Midtown East. Like it's a, it's a swanky part of of New York. Even then it's just where the dump happened to be in Manhattan, I guess, over by the Queensborough Bridge.
01:04:56
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And He stole the necklace that um Cornelia tried to plant on him, sold it, um put a bunch of money in, short shorted Eugene Pallet the eugene pallet stock um made a bunch of money, gave it back to Eugene Pallett to save him, and then also used a bunch of that money to build this nightclub and then bought another set of pearls to give to Cornelius. I'm glad that you explained did really well. Because whenever he was explaining it in the movie, i was like, oh, this seems like way too much math.
01:05:28
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It's one of those, it's an obligatory scene, right? It's like a big hand wave. It's like, and then I did some money things and made everybody's lives better. and I solved the depression. Yeah. FDR's got nothing on Godfrey.
01:05:41
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he really I really, mean, what he's doing is great because ah essentially he's giving all of these forgotten men jobs at the nightclub during the summer. But then in the winter, apparently nobody wants to go to an outdoor nightclub in the winter, which understandable.
01:05:55
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Um, So they they just have little like cabins, little bunks. And like, I'm just imagining like little storage units with like little cots in them, which I guess is better than tent.
01:06:08
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ah ten I mean, he doesn't it doesn't say that they're like that they're like that. I mean, it could be basically like an apartment building kind of thing. That's true. how I pictured it. but That's how I have thought about it, too. I think because he was talking at the end there about, you know, being able to house 50 of them.
01:06:24
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Yeah. In the winter months. Yeah. Yeah. But then, like, where is it going to Yeah. Oh, okay. I was like, but then where is it going to be on site? Like, does the site just turn into that?
01:06:35
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Like, does it convert into their homes and then converts back? Like, where are they sleep during the summer? that's that's an excellent question yeah the movie's not in the restaurant he's not really interested in any of that restaurant exactly at the piano well i mean they i i mean i guess that they have jobs and then they you'll have to get their own accommodation at some point because they is paying them you know yeah i don't know it just seems like a weird deal i don't know ubi um mutual aid um all of that
01:07:06
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Yeah. um And that is pretty much, and then she forces him into a marriage she's like, Hey, the mayor's here. go get the mayor. Don't marry us. And he's even like, um she's like, can you marry us without a license? And he goes, oh without a license?
01:07:23
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That'll get me in a lot of trouble, little lady. But for you and your family, absolutely. And then he marries them. She's like, but Mr. Mayor, you gots ta. And that's that's how she solves all her problems. Right, right. That was a little more Harley Quinn than Irene Bullock, but it's a good kind of thing.
01:07:44
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She basically, and that's my favorite part of the movie is that, um is her line where she's just like, um like but does everybody know about this marriage? And she goes, yeah, everybody, but Godfrey.
01:07:57
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And they're just like, sounds great. Let's do it. Let's do it. Credits. Right? And that's... And I do love a rock film that just wraps up and we're at credits immediately. Right. um Right. 95 minutes.
01:08:11
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Oof. Perfect. wow wow Kiss, kiss. Perfect length for a film. And that's that's my man, Godfrey. Does anybody have any thoughts, feelings, questions, opinions, any other thoughts?
01:08:22
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My first thought, as soon as it ended, was switch the gender roles and how would that have played? Because if you were to imagine like a guy trying to entrap a woman into a marriage, like it's just interesting how at that time and like that culture, like what was, what was okay? yeah Like,
01:08:44
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sure, let's just show this very rich white family in the midst of the Great Depression, and they live in a mansion, and they can do whatever they want, and they have all this money, and and even when it looks like they're going to lose everything, nope, because yep Godfrey came in to save the day, so they're not actually going to lose anything, so they're still okay. Sorry, suckers who can't even afford to see this movie, but we'll take those award nominations.
01:09:09
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Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. yeah it's a weird It's a weird movie for that time, for Great Depression, just because it doesn't exactly give ah hope to people who are really in dire straits. Yeah.
01:09:25
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It's more just telling rich people, you'll probably be fine. Yeah. You'll be fine. it doesn't but have It doesn't have the um the humanitarian like kind of undercurrent that something like um Sullivan's Travels or Capra movies or something like that has that were made around the same time. like Those movies are much more...
01:09:48
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like concerned with the actual plight of actual poor people uh i think and this movie is kind of using it as set dressing yes um it's not to say that it's not like a fun movie yeah sure yeah and i do like carol lumbar like she is delightful to watch and some of like especially when she's being subtle like she's really fun Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Godfrey couldn't get it I mean, he's a handsome man, so.
01:10:15
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Once he shaves. Before he shaves. Yeah, before he shaves. What was that? monster. What was that? Yeah. What was this ugly guy? um I did appreciate the fact that he gave some backstory to some of the other um forgotten men where and like they were all like really nice ones not like this guy was terrible and he like ran a finance firm and a bunch of and his employees also got laid off.
01:10:41
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He was like this guy wanted to make sure that all of his employees didn't lose anything so he gave them all his money. was like that's nice. That's nice. Let's give this guy a house to live in.
01:10:53
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Yeah, it's very much concerned with the the altruism of the um um the the the rich a little bit. yeah in Also, like all the forgotten men are also used to be rich men.
01:11:05
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And everybody's white. But that's the third. Not necessarily Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're not talking about, like, Carol Lombard and William Powell in this episode, right? We're going to do that right in your episode.
01:11:19
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Okay. Yeah. This is just about the tragedy. The death. There's multiple. i mean, I know about Carol. i guess I'll find out. Yeah, well there's, there is with Carol, besides her own death, like, she experienced some horrific things in her life in terms of losing people.
01:11:40
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And then William Powell, I mean, he was there when Jean Harlow. and So, i mean, that was his lady. And so he yeah he went through it. And he also had like, I think, Kevin, are you doing William?
01:11:57
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i think Kevin's covering William. Yeah. So he'll be able to tell it. But yeah, they each had their ah struggles, shall we say? God. Ugh. To be beautiful and tragic.
01:12:08
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Yeah.
01:12:12
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That's how you get remembered. That's how you get remembered. yeah Be beautiful and tragic. Alano Del Rey song just popped in the back of my head. They'd be dead. Yeah. He says, do you mind if I talk for a bit just so you can catch your breath? And she's like, uh-huh. He says, you're grateful to me because I helped you best, Cornelia. And I'm grateful to you because you helped me beat life.
01:12:33
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But that doesn't mean we have to fall in love. Which I think is... Yeah, see he doesn't love her. If they didn't get married at the end of it, that would be a good sentiment. yeah But they do fall in love, quote unquote.
01:12:45
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Or she just forces him in. I mean, can you imagine? just What is the moment after
Relationship Stories and Sequel Speculation
01:12:52
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they get married? like where Just like, what? What?
01:12:57
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I mean, and he even explains to her that he was in ah and he was in a relationship that did not end well and kind of got him into that situation. So he's obviously, and i don't know, traumatized or you know, is not ready for another relationship. he even tells her with as much.
01:13:15
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And she's still like, what? What? and Can't hear you over my beating heart. You don't have five kids? Okay, that's all I needed to know. That's needed oh i was just gonna say she was just so upset by the five kids that i mean well yeah i think that's reasonable like that's that's too many to deal with you don't want to be a stepmom to five kids i kids in the 30s but if it's god free in this economy if you've got endless money and it's god free you take liberty that's true that's true yeah
01:13:53
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um I had another line read I wanted to read. ah The police come and they ah the police are talking to Molly, the maid, and he says, you got a passion for jewelry. and she goes, yeah, and a passion for sock and cops. And he goes, where are they? And she goes, mostly and mostly in the cemetery. Hell yeah, Molly.
01:14:11
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Molly's the fucking best. I wanted more Molly. um Yeah. Because she gave no nonsense. And even when he was like accusing her of stealing, she was like, what's it to you, huh?
01:14:24
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molly ah god and then godfrey just leaves and then they'll have to get another butler i mean they could make and they'll be fine he saved the family they'll be fine i mean my man godfrey papers that says they have money right my man godfrey too could also be cornelia going back to the dump finding another forgotten man or a different dump.
01:14:52
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i think it's ah It's a nightclub now. She finds a nightclub ah waiter who falls in love with. Right. And then they teach her a thing about humility. I love it. Or I'm also thinking like he, cause he marries back into the family and goes back to the house and then everybody's still in love with him.
01:15:10
Speaker
So instead of my man Godfrey, it's our man Godfrey something. That's a weird polyamorous relationship with everybody kind of a noises off situation. I don't know.
01:15:21
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Yes. yeah Where everyone's in love with Godfrey. Everybody is married to Godfrey. Right. But then Godfrey ends Do you think that there are any My Man Godfrey fics on
Fanfiction and Film Classics
01:15:32
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AO3? Wait,
01:15:35
Speaker
and wait what's AO3? Probably not. AO3 is the fanfiction archive. ah An archive of our own is what it stands for. yeah ah Probably not, but we could certainly write one. Yeah.
01:15:50
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I mean, this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Yeah.
01:15:55
Speaker
To quote another old movie. Do you want to know something crazy? What? I have never seen Casablanca. What? Really? um Never.
01:16:07
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It's good. Yeah. Pretty good. It's good. We do another crossover. We're going to do Casablanca. It's like one of those classic films that just passed me by. And it's like one of those, like, I need to watch that. I'm going to watch that. I've never seen it.
01:16:20
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I definitely have There are several My Man Goffrey fan picks on AO3. What? 100%. Yeah. know there's one called Ice Pick a Headache, which is 3,000 words long. There's one called Memoirs of a Forgotten Man by Fuzzy Blue Stockings, which 16,000 words long.
01:16:44
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Um, there, that's it. That's it. So there's two. There's two. Which is that more than I expected, honestly. One of them was published in April of this year. Jesus, people are horny for Godfrey.
01:16:58
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okay hold on here's the tags graphic depiction of violence irene but irene bullock slash godfrey park a bunch of the other characters um yen dear yen dare death by ice pick carlo was used as a scapegoat r.i.p king no beta we die like cornelia and also molly but that's only implied t he autism is a beast
01:17:23
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What? Those are the tags. Are they implying that Molly has autism? ah They're implying that the author has autism. That the author is implying that, yes. I read that as like one one hashtag.
01:17:35
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What is the other one's hashtags? ah The other one are just normal. It's just the characters' names. um And then like notices for like romantic comedy, immaturity, hidden depths, butlers, skiing, remarriage, impersonation, backstory, nightlife, alcohol, more alcohol, not necessarily thin man levels of alcohol, but still plenty of alcohol, references to depression, and ostrich feathers.
01:18:01
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I want to read that one. yeah That was the long one too. yeah I mean long. It's 16,000 words. that's That's still a pretty short story. yeah Boy oh boy. Gotta see where that goes.
01:18:15
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It's a fantastic website.
01:18:18
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I love that. Anyways.
Podcast Promos and Paranormal Stories
01:18:23
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i guess ah So yes. You can catch us on the Horrorwood podcast. Which we post on Sundays. What days do day of the week do you post? Monday.
01:18:35
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Oh, yeah. So tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Also, Emma, can we say hello to your mom? know. Yeah. She's so excited about this.
01:18:46
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Hi, Donna. Hey, Donna.
01:18:50
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Hi from Horwood. The other day i was. She's one of your patrons. is. ah The other day, she was I was telling her, i was like, yeah, and then we're recording the crossover episode, and she goes, oh, oh did you know that Kate and Kevin, they have ads now?
01:19:04
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They have ads now. And I was like, that's so what's wild, is we've had ads for a while, but certain platforms, I'm not going to say which ones. Does anyone want to Snapple?
01:19:18
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haven't been playing them. Rude. And it's... it's Because someone else pointed that to me. They were like, yeah, I've never heard an ad on yours. I'm like, so that's why our ads are low. Because some platforms don't play them, which is very interesting.
01:19:35
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Anyway, that's just for my guests. Yeah. Well, you can bet that Donna's probably using your promo codes.
01:19:45
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We don't even have promo codes. If you get promo codes, she will use them. I love it. Wonderful. We'll make a promo code for Donna. Yes. Promo code Donna. Promo code Donna at checkout.
01:20:01
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She'll always remember it. There you so Yeah. There we go. Bless her. This is like her dream crossover. love that. Right?
01:20:13
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Yes. Hi, mom. And that was our Donna Minute. Yeah. Donna Minute. I guess that's the new theme song. Yeah. So ah we are on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Spotify at.
01:20:29
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Horrorwood podcast. ah We're on all the platforms at Horrorwood, True Crime in Tinseltown. And ah yeah, we're just talking about murders and haunted things and first thing tragedy over there. Awful stuff, entertainment, good times.
01:20:49
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Did you guys hear about the guy who died, who was handling- Okay, all. talking about- don't want to be like, yeah. No, no. So many people- I just covered Annabelle.
01:21:00
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I just covered her. I need to listen to that episode. Oh my God. absolutely. Kevin had just covered that. I've gotten so many texts. We've been getting emails from listeners. Someone from Australia wrote us this morning was like, did you hear?
01:21:18
Speaker
and i i don't know what you're talking about. So- so what One of the paranormal investigators from the New England, Kevin, do you know the full name of that? i i It escapes me right now. like It's like New England Paranormal Society. Psychic Society, yeah. um new They have been picking the Annabelle doll, like the original Annabelle Raggedy Ann doll that's supposedly haunted, taking it on tour. The Devil's on the Run tour, which stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. bed yeah They're in like all these kind of crazy, you know, kind of silly things have happened that people have talked about. And Kevin talks a little bit about it on the episode, but the lead tour guide, Dan Rivera, i believe is his name died while on tour with this doll.
01:22:07
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And so every article that's come out ah announcing his death is quickly followed by died while showcasing ah supposed demonic doll.
01:22:20
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And I said, I told him that earlier. I was like, you know, If you're a paranormal investigator and you have to go out, this is a pretty epic way to do it. i mean Right?
01:22:33
Speaker
ah That's true. You're totally Nobody knew his name before. Because Annabelle's going to be in Illinois in October on that tour that she's on. And Kate and I were like, oh, were like talking about going. And now we're like, I think we'll just stay home.
01:22:48
Speaker
Yeah, I think um I don't need to see her. I just went to the, um there's there's like ah ah a museum of oddities in Omaha, Nebraska, where it has like an entire, like there's like 500 haunted demonic dolls.
01:23:02
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And my mom and I and my sister, we went and um we're fine, but ah it's not Annabelle. Okay.
01:23:15
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Yeah, she's up to no good. Yeah. It's just so bonkers. So, so bonkers. But RIP that guy. yeah yeah Yeah.
01:23:27
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01:24:08
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