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27 Dresses
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It's our first Heigl! Emma and Katie chat all things weddings with this 2008 Rom Com hit. Heigl's character Jane has got closets full of bridesmaid dresses and zero boundaries....in New York City?! Emma and Katie share different views on if this film was enjoyable or not. Tune in to find out how and why!
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Midweek Banter and Indie Film Talk
00:00:02
Speaker
You know going to start this, Katie? Oh, God. It's a Wednesday, so it's hump day. Happy hump day, Katie.
00:00:14
Speaker
All right. As soon I was waiting for you to enter the room, I was like, hell yeah, I'm going to start this with happy hump day. Katie's going to hate that.
00:00:27
Speaker
You know, there is a movie called Hump Day. it a rom-com? I think it's like, think it's like an indie, like mumblecore movie.
00:00:38
Speaker
It's, it's got one of the Duplass brothers in Oh. But I don't think, I don't think they direct it. Yeah. I mean, we'll definitely get to some, we'll definitely get to some Duplass at some point.
00:00:51
Speaker
Oh yeah. Um, let's see. It's like about a threesome, maybe? Are you sure it's not drinking buddies? Um... No, it's a different one.
00:01:04
Speaker
Um... Yeah, to two college buddies reunite after a decade apart. Um... They decide to enter a movie in the upcoming amateur porn festival.
00:01:16
Speaker
Oh. Oh, it's about straight boys making a gay porn together. Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. Happy Pride Month.
00:01:26
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it's definitely July when this movie comes out. Why will that link to Wikipedia? Why is it like this? Remember when Google worked? Yeah. No.
00:01:38
Speaker
Yeah. What a time. Remember when there was Ask Jeeves?
Lynn Shelton Tribute and Political Updates
00:01:42
Speaker
Yeah. oh it's a Lynn Shelton movie. Yeah. Written and directed by Lynn Shelton. R.I.P. Oh, I don't really know Lynn Shelton.
00:01:49
Speaker
Oh, she was an indie um filmmaker. um She, she, mumblecore movies like, like that. She was, um she did, ah oh, what's the other one that she did? um i laggies with Keira Knightley and Sam Rockwell. um Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:10
Speaker
She made a bunch of a bunch of those. And then she like she was dating Marc Maron and then ah died suddenly at age 50 or something. Jesus.
00:02:22
Speaker
Yeah, she had some kind of cancer and just like suddenly died. It was really sad, yeah. Oh my God. Well, RIP. Yeah. Goodness. Well, anyways, what's new?
00:02:37
Speaker
ah yeah Just a depressing story right off the bat. Right off the bat. Every time you say happy hump day, I'm going to bring it and bring the bring it down. It's my payment for hump day is the fact that it's going to come with a really depressing fact.
00:02:54
Speaker
Yeah. um Yeah, I don't know. i'm just hanging out. Yeah, just hanging out. Just living life. Yeah. Yeah. Here we are. date this episode, Zoran Mamdani won the Democratic primary in the New York City mayoral election last night. Yay! Two people who do not live in New York City.
00:03:18
Speaker
Yay! I did have a dream about New York City last night, though. Yeah. Maybe it's a sign.
Dreams, Misunderstandings, and Sports Talk
00:03:24
Speaker
um I had a dream that I was house hunting and um just on a whim, Charlie and I went to New York and we got off ah the train and there was a house for sale and it was this whimsical little house and we walked in and it was like this like three story, but like I kept going down with like a spiral staircase, like a little like metal, like, you know, the like garden. It was very cottagecore. Yeah.
00:03:49
Speaker
It's very Royal, Royal Tenenbaums what it sounds Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And it, um, it was like an indoor garden and it was beautiful. And the family that lived there was like, yeah, totally. Like we feel like totally safe. This place is great. It was like right by Penn station, which is not the transition we go into.
00:04:08
Speaker
ah That is also like, listen, New York is a very, New York is a very safe city. um and you know, one of the safest cities in the world, probably, but yeah right by Penn Station is not where you want to fucking live.
00:04:22
Speaker
It was right by Penn Station, but it was also right by where the Mets play in New Jersey. um And so like there was a whole road that was like blocked off. the mets play The Mets play in Queens, Emma.
00:04:33
Speaker
Oh, sorry. I thought they played in New Jersey. Maybe they used to play in New Jersey. Because I went to New Jersey to watch them play when I was in middle school. I mean, they may have been like, i mean, sometimes teams play in other places. Like the Atlanta Braves are playing at the at the Bristol motor Motor Speedway in August. My mom is trying to convince me to come to Tennessee to see the Braves game with her.
00:04:53
Speaker
yeah Oh, boy. Sports. Oh, speaking of sports. on, hold on. Hold on, Emma. What sport do you think the Mets play? Real quick. They play basketball. Okay, okay, good, good, good, good.
00:05:06
Speaker
I've seen them play and they lost. It was 2001 and they lost. It's when they were still really bad and the joke of New York. um yeah And I was like, we couldn't have gone. It was like one of my middle school friends, her dad took her and me to a Mets game.
00:05:22
Speaker
And i was like, we couldn't have gone and seen the Yankees.
00:05:29
Speaker
But not really it's not really what it's about. Yeah. That's really what that's about. um And also, don't much sports. I've never been to a baseball game. You've never been to a baseball game? I've never been to a professional baseball game, no.
00:05:43
Speaker
When I was in high school, my dad, so my dad was the um ah president of the Optimist Club, which is like a and love that yeah social, you know, um like service organization or whatever. It's kind of like the Rotary Club. Everyone's an optimist.
00:06:00
Speaker
Yeah, it's like the Rotary Club or something like that. And so he had all kinds of like shit he had to do. Yeah. And one thing they sponsored the Dizzy Dean Baseball League, which is like college age baseball, I think.
00:06:16
Speaker
Yeah. um and ah so he made me work concessions uh at a bunch of those baseball games so there it's like it's like little league and then whatever's after little league and then dizzy dean is after that and then there's like and then there's like something and then then then then you're in like the minor leagues right like that's yeah yeah progression or whatever Yeah, totally.
00:06:44
Speaker
So I've been to a ton of Dizzy Dean League baseball games, but never... And it was also against my will, I should say. I did get paid. I mean, that's great.
00:06:54
Speaker
I've been to many baseball games, and you're not going to like where this is going.
00:07:00
Speaker
Yeah. Two completely different experiences growing up. um i I attended ah yearly Cubs game. Yeah.
00:07:13
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yeah My dad would bring us because he worked for Walgreens corporate and um back when Walgreens was still good. and Walgreens not good?
00:07:25
Speaker
ah They went down the tube and he'll constantly say, it's not the Walgreens I worked for for 20 years. Was he the one in charge of locking up every available thing that you can't, so you can't buy anything without asking for fucking key? Exactly. That was before my dad's, or that was way after my dad's time.
00:07:43
Speaker
Um, Yeah, Walgreens sucks now. Sorry. Unless you want to sponsor us Walgreens, then we'll take the money. um there's like There's good Walgreens and bad Walgreens. That's the thing. Exactly. The Walgreens by our house on... Well, i'm not going to say where our house is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:58
Speaker
The Walgreens by our apartment fucking sucks. It's the worst Walgreens in the city. It's awful. yeah. But there's like good Walgreens too. like Yeah, yeah. So load up on Poppy.
00:08:09
Speaker
Yeah, to Poppy. Well, we just had to switch from Walgreens to CVS because Walgreens couldn't get our prescriptions in on time. Like they had massive. Oh, yeah. I don't get. No, I don't get prescriptions from Walgreens. I get prescriptions from Mariano's now.
00:08:24
Speaker
Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. But yeah. So anyways, Walgreens, man, super relevant. Yeah. But yeah, so because um he worked for Walgreens, we would go to the Walgreens box.
00:08:40
Speaker
And oh, of course, of course, we'd watch a Cubs game every year from the box. um Not that I cared about it, um but I did care about the the dessert cart that came around.
00:08:54
Speaker
i was allowed one item off of the dessert cart, the dessert cart. Yeah. Very different experiences.
00:09:04
Speaker
it was It was a good time, but I have no appreciation for baseball. The only thing I have appreciation for is dessert carts. I have appreciation for baseball movies. And like, I mean, we had this discussion during Boulder. I'm like, I want to believe that there's romance in it. You know, like I have you seen The Natural with Robert Redford?
00:09:24
Speaker
No, why would I have seen that? Because it's a good movie. It's about magic. um is it ah Is it about baseball? Yes, it's about a baseball player. I will repeat this a thousand times. The only baseball movie I will repeatedly watch is A League of Their Own.
00:09:40
Speaker
End of story. And that's because that's about sisterhood.
Entertainment Dive: 'A League of Their Own' and More
00:09:43
Speaker
League of Their Own is really good, but the TV show is better. The TV show is better. But the movie is fucking solid.
00:09:51
Speaker
It is, yeah. League of Their Own is really good. um It's a shame the TV show got ah renewed and then canceled. Yeah, I hate that. I hate that. Yeah. um None of this has anything to do with what we're talking about. So that's a about on track for us. yeah Yep, yep. That's about on track for us. Oh, one last thing about sports before we go into the polar opposites of sports.
00:10:14
Speaker
I mean, that's very gender normative. I hate that. I'm going to take that Well, you know what else is very gender normative? This movie. Yeah. um But yeah, I just found out this morning. So um I got duped into, we're leaving for England this evening and um we are going for our friend Kyle and Laura's wedding, which is going to be a fantastic, wonderful trip. But then of course we are seeing friends and family and all of that.
00:10:42
Speaker
And part of that's going to be, the wedding is around Brighton. Then we're going over to Bristol. And then in Bristol, we are seeing a fantastic queer sci-fi play um at the old vic and then i wanted to go on a ghost tour to which charlie was like me i don't think we've got time uh and then he was like oh emma emma can we can we sneak in a a cheeky cheeky cricket match oh there's time for a cricket match huh Yeah, there's time for a cricket match.
00:11:14
Speaker
And um he's going probably- Interesting. He's upstairs. He's probably going to be texting so many corrections be like, the cricket match was before we decided that we didn't have time for the ghost tour. Interesting how there's time for a cricket match, but not a ghost tour. Because cricket matches famously take all fucking day. And a ghost tour is like a couple of hours. yeah Well, the last cricket match i went I was forced to go to was only 90 minutes.
00:11:39
Speaker
because it was like a short one and i assumed this was also going to only be 90 minutes and so i was like yeah fine whatever i'll bring a book i'll drink a bunch of gin tonics it'll be grand um and uh i was informed this morning he was like oh yeah it's only going to take three hours i'm sorry what three hours You can go and anything. But there's a break in the middle.
00:12:05
Speaker
You don't have to go. Oh, yeah. They they' break for tea during cricket. Yeah. It's extremely British. Yeah. But then I'm a bad wife. And then, like, I, like, lose out on, like, hanging out. And, like, I could go do whatever I want. Like, I could probably. If I get bored, I'll probably leave.
00:12:19
Speaker
and You could go on the ghost tour by yourself. I could. um But I think this is during the day and that's at night. But. um Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, like. I don't think that makes you bad wife.
00:12:31
Speaker
I don't think that makes you bad tolerate it a little bit because I forced him to go on ghost tours everywhere we go. f Well, like also, I don't know. Well, you don't want me to get into like. Ghost tours are way fun. Oh no, love ghost tours. No, no. I was talking about Charlie not doing things with you. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:12:50
Speaker
Yeah. Right, Charles. But he's catching up so whenever on his episode. So when he gets to this. I know. He sends me things from, he's just sends responses. He texts me responses to things that I like said two months ago at this point. I'm like, Oh yeah. Okay. He he did that to me. was like, i mean i I'm happy you're catching up Charlie. Yeah.
00:13:10
Speaker
He was just like, Emma, there, there was an, there was a forest preserve over by the hot dog place we went to Like that was just the text. And I was like, what?
00:13:22
Speaker
Oh, we're talking about hot dogs. Context for this, Charlie. Oh yeah. Yeah. There was a forest preserve over there. Yeah. RIP hot dogs. Hot dogs is done.
00:13:34
Speaker
Hot dogs closed in like 2016. I want to say. Oh, maybe it's not hot dogs. It's um the drive-in one that's over by... Superdog. Superdog, sorry. was talking about Superdog.
00:13:46
Speaker
was about to say, I don't think there's a forest preserve near where Hot Dogs was. But yeah, Superdog had a... There's a forest preserve right there, yeah. Yeah, Superdog is great. um Anyways, super relevant. um That's right, guys.
00:14:00
Speaker
This is Go Get Your Girl, ah the podcast where Emma and Katie are always a bridesmaid, never a bride. But you know what? They are the best bridesmaids because they low-key hate themselves.
00:14:16
Speaker
And um want to prove that they can be the best friends in a moral blackmailing, like self blackmailing that they their friends will be there then for them.
00:14:29
Speaker
But I think it's just so that they have friends. Anyways, that's getting into the moral compass of this. em i in this In this podcast, Emma and Katie have 27 close women friends. Yes. have it 27. That's, that's where I'm going to get into it.
00:14:43
Speaker
I don't think that they're crazy. I don't, I don't think that they're, they're close. I think anyways, Emma and Katie have been bridesmaids 27 times and they kept miraculously all of those ugly. In a New York City apartment.
00:14:57
Speaker
In a New York City apartment. And then they're um their party girl sister comes to town and falls in love with their boss, who they also are in love with.
00:15:10
Speaker
And by lying to them. And ah the only thing that's left for us to do is to ruin that relationship. All while falling in love with a crisscross from 30 Rock.
00:15:21
Speaker
ah That's right, guys. Crisscross from 30 Rock is how you describe James Marsden. Yeah, James Marsden. Crisscross from 30 Rock or um or Prince Cyclops.
00:15:33
Speaker
He's Cyclops. Yeah, Cyclops. Or the prince from Enchanted. From Enchanted, yes. He was in That Thing You Do, right? ah No.
00:15:44
Speaker
Ah, it's the guy that looks like him. Jonathan Shake.
00:15:51
Speaker
yeah I always thought it James Marsden. was never James Marsden. Anyways, that's right, guys. I'm suddenly panicked that James Marsden was in That Thing You Do. oh no tom everett scott is the one who looks like james marsyn yeah i mean he doesn't really but in maybe in that movie he did a in that movie he looks like james marsyn he's um he's also um the what's his name kooky connor kooky whatever from hairspray anyways yes he is um yes corny collins
00:16:25
Speaker
Corny Collins, yes. Where did that come from? Oh my God, that came from the depths of my theater kid's soul. yeah I honestly could not grasp anything that was that character. And then out of nowhere, I vomited Corny Collins.
00:16:39
Speaker
It's a Corny Collins show, yeah. And I'm Link. Anyways, that's irrelevant. Good movie. Good movie. We will probably do it on this podcast.
00:16:51
Speaker
ah Anyways. most off-hinged one of you. know what's You know what's not a good movie?
00:17:02
Speaker
um That's right, guys. I'm Emma. And I'm Katie. And today we're talking about 27 Dresses. Yeah, buddy.
00:17:13
Speaker
Directed by annen Fletcher, who we have done a movie of hers before. Ann Fletcher directed The Proposal. Okay, this is all tracking. Yeah, and Step Up And Hocus Pocus 2.
00:17:27
Speaker
And some other things. Yeah. I'm sorry. What? And what? Step Up. And Hocus Pocus 2. And some other things.
00:17:38
Speaker
Oh my. Okay. Yeah, Hocus Pocus 2 not directed by Kenny Ortega. Instead directed by this lady. and Which is why it felt real weird. It was bad. It's not good movie. It was bad. It was not good.
00:17:50
Speaker
It was bad. and Sorry. I mean, i haven't seen Step Up in a long time. ah And The Proposal, I remember thinking was a good movie. But on rewatch, we were like, this is pretty cringe.
00:18:00
Speaker
Yeah. I think The Proposal is a better movie than this. But I don't know if any of these movies are good, actually. No, no, no. I think that she she has a loose grasp as to what jokes are appropriate for for a visual medium to go out to um the American network.
00:18:18
Speaker
Yes, yes. ah This movie is written by, i'm not i don't know how to pronounce this name. I think that it's Aline.
Rom-Com Analysis: '27 Dresses' and Beyond
00:18:28
Speaker
Okay. Rosh McKenna.
00:18:29
Speaker
A-L-I-N-E. She's a famous rom-com writer. She wrote The Devil Wears Prada. But it's A-L-I-N-E. You think that's Eileen still? Eileen.
00:18:41
Speaker
Yeah, Eileen is what I'm guessing. Eileen. Yeah. Something in there. I don't know. um We're just going to keep repeating it. Yeah. um she She wrote The Devil Wears Prada. um She wrote Morning Glory, which I think is good.
00:18:54
Speaker
um And she wrote We Bought a Zoo. Yep. Cool. Which... Which maybe we'll get to just because I've never i've never seen We Bought a Zoo.
00:19:05
Speaker
I've never seen a Zoo. But it's a punchline of a movie. I get that confused with The Zookeeper's Wife a lot. And they're two completely different movies. Well, I believe The Zookeeper's Wife is about Nazis, right? It is!
00:19:19
Speaker
Yeah. My first thought with We Bought a Zoo was, oh yeah, that's the one about World War II, right? Yeah. No, We Bought a Zoo is the one where they buy a zoo. um And it's Matt Damon.
00:19:31
Speaker
And then his wife is about... about the Nazis. It's about Chastain trying to protect people from Nazis. Yeah, yeah. um it is ah the We Bought a Zoo is the movie that was so bad it killed Cameron Crowe's career.
00:19:48
Speaker
Yes! Yes. Yeah. It was a one it was that and Aloha back to back that killed Cameron Crowe's career. Yeah. the Aloha was bad. I have not seen it. I've seen Aloha.
00:19:59
Speaker
Oh, I sat through it. Emma Stone plays an Asian woman, right? Yeah. And that wasn't even the worst part. Like, you know, there might be like... some sort of weird ass backward defense of that. If the movie was good and there was reasoning, but like there was no reasoning. The movie wasn't good. It felt like it was based on a book and they just left out giant chapters because they just skipped from a disease like a thousand times and just assume that we put like all of this context together. Like it was just very bizarre and confusing and stupid and we hated it.
00:20:36
Speaker
It's not based on a book. Yeah, I know. I looked it up. And I was just like, it's got to have. I remember talking to Charlie afterwards and we were like, why was this so bad? I was like, it's got to have been based on a book and they just let it out giant chunks.
00:20:47
Speaker
Rachel McAdams and Emma Stone. Yeah. Yeah. And Rachel McAdams is barely in it. Yeah. And you know how I feel about Bradley Cooper. Like I love Bradley Cooper. So yeah it's, um but that movie, I could tell from the trailer that movie was bad enough that I didn't need to see it. Yeah.
00:21:04
Speaker
Yeah, they really appropriated um Hawaiian culture for white people. ah in a way that's not In a way that's not cool anymore. Like, he was right on the cusp.
00:21:15
Speaker
Like, before that, it was fine to do that in movies. And then that was, like, the last year you could do it. Yeah, and it was not fine. It was really not fine. Um, there's a really good book, uh, called, um, unfamiliar fishes, uh, uh, the history of Hawaii by Sarah Vowell.
00:21:35
Speaker
do you know Sarah Vowell? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, that I think, I don't think she's written the books. She hasn't written the book in like 10 years. It's a shame. I really love all of her books. Um, but her book about Hawaii is, is really interesting about the history of the occupation and the, um,
00:21:51
Speaker
you know the american like imperialism and everything and it's uh but it's also like a like a fun quirky little book about all that stuff i love that i'm gonna put that on my goodreads right now unfamiliar fishes what else have i read by sarah bell i know that i've read something else by her um well she's a big npr person um so she has like a lot of yeah essays and stuff so you might not have read a whole book but she's got know she's got like five or six books and they're all they're all pretty good yeah Oh, I have another one on my want to read that I think you might have told me about. Did you tell me about State by State, a panoramic portrait of America?
00:22:28
Speaker
No, I don't know that. Maybe that's a new book. and She like read, she wrote it with someone in 2008. Oh, so no.
00:22:40
Speaker
Huh. ah Oh, maybe I was trying to put unfamiliar fishes on my want to read and I accidentally put that one on. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know that book. Yeah. oopsie daisies um yeah she hasn't written book since 2015 about when she wrote a book about Lafayette yeah yeah she's probably um just like the rest of us and um politically burnt out yeah I mean sometimes she just kind of live yeah yeah boy oh hope you're doing well Sarah Vowell hope you're doing well please we need another book from you but like only when you're ready
00:23:15
Speaker
or I don't know maybe she sucks like David Sedaris and uh who knows yeah I don't know. man um I know. Anyways, 27 dresses. 27 dresses. um Yes. So this stars Katherine Heigl, who at the time was a thing.
00:23:33
Speaker
Grey's Anatomy was the biggest show on TV, which I guess maybe Grey's Anatomy is still the biggest show on TV, but she's not on it anymore. yeah I don't think Grey's Anatomy is the biggest show on TV anymore but it's still going which is crazy and which is insane which is absolutely it's like at general hospital level right now yeah I watched like five seasons of Grey's Anatomy and just kind of like okay well I think I've seen everything this show needs that like has to say yeah and stopped watching it in like 2010 maybe
00:24:04
Speaker
Yeah, i I did not watch Grey's Anatomy. I didn't get into Shondaland until Scandal. um But then I was just, Scandal was was my vibe until Scandal. Get into Shondaland. You opened the gates of Shondaland. I opened the gates to Shondaland.
00:24:21
Speaker
um and And Scandal was my jam. I have never seen it. um It's so good.
00:24:32
Speaker
until it's in it Until it's not. it's not. Until it jumps the shark like all Shondaland shows do. and Until it fucking jumps the shark. but um But yeah, so this is Katherine Heigl. This is right after Knocked Up. She had a huge hit in 2007 with Knocked Up, which we'll get to eventually.
00:24:50
Speaker
Of course And then this was her follow-up rom-com. And this movie is... Very bad. um But it's a cult classic. It is a cult classic.
00:25:00
Speaker
It's not a cult classic. It was a huge hit. but It was a huge hit. I think in the rom-com circuit, it is a cult classic. It is in that same sort of like girls night, like itinerary of films. Like you've got legally blonde, mean girls in 27 dresses.
00:25:16
Speaker
Like it is... Oh no. But those movies are good. It's canon. it's candid ah yeah but it's rom-com You cannot argue that Dresses is rom-com It is rom-com canon, but it is like, it's it's it's the beginning of the end of of rom-coms. Like, this movie and Failure to Launch, when did Failure to Launch come out? This is like, this is these are the death knells of rom-coms.
00:25:44
Speaker
The death nails. um You know how sometimes you get death nails? Yeah. The death nails of- The death nails of- Rom-coms, Failure to Launch, is 2006. So again, you're still having big hit rom-coms, but they're they're so bad.
00:26:04
Speaker
They're toxic. Okay, I'm going on the defensive for 27 Dresses. I'm not going defend it completely because, yes, there are very cringe, like, stupid things that happen in this movie.
00:26:19
Speaker
But I don't think it's a bad watch. I don't think it's a hard watch. I think it was hard for me to watch it last night. Yeah. I think that there's, like, really – think it's, like, a, you know, a good, like, popcorn movie that, like, just sort of watch – you got to watch it and and have a good time. Listen, – This whole podcast is about popcorn movies. Like, we're not talking about, like, great art here, you know? Yeah, but this is easier to watch than Failure to Launch.
00:26:46
Speaker
This is so much easier to watch than Failure i think I like Failure to Launch better. Are you serious? I think that... Here's the thing. This movie was not fun for me. This movie has an absence of charm and charisma and i just don't like i don't like any of the main characters like the three the three main characters in this movie i think are unlikable and obnoxious hangs like the only person i like is ed burns
00:27:22
Speaker
is that the dad No, it's the it's the it's the boss. It's George. Oh. I mean, he's kind of annoying as well. But, like, the thing is that they have their flaws and they have their, like, nice moments. Like, they're flawed, but I think that that's part of the charm is that they're all flawed. I mean, her sister fucking sucks.
00:27:42
Speaker
Maylan, Oh, my God. She sucks so much. But but Katherine Heigl and James Marsden, I think, are flawed in a way that's like perfectly normal.
00:27:53
Speaker
I mean, for like on an elevated scale. But like, I think that it's part of the time that they're so flawed. I don't like either of them. And like, here's the thing. i don't like Katherine Heigl.
00:28:04
Speaker
Like most of America. ah Like everyone's like, Katherine Heigl's like, I'm going to be in a bunch of movies. And America was like, no, thank you. yeah we See, I don't mind her.
00:28:16
Speaker
I don't mind. We've seen enough of that. um She just has one of those. She is like, she can't help this. And i yeah I have nothing against Catherine. I'm sure Catherine Heigl is a nice person.
00:28:32
Speaker
yes She got a lot of shit for talking about things that were 100% true. you know yes like yeah bi yeah she She may have tanked her own career because she was like, hey, Hollywood is super ah sexist and I'm not having a good time. And everyone's like, shut the fuck up.
00:28:51
Speaker
And like... pretend to be nice and she's like yeah yeah I don't want to do that and ah that kind of like got her lost her a lot of jobs and like she got branded as difficult or whatever but actors who worked with her said that that's not true that she's just you know it's kind of like the thing where like she was new she was new to Hollywood and was like is this how things work and everyone else is like yeah this is how things work she goes that sucks and again this is all before 2017 Yeah.
00:29:20
Speaker
You know, all before me too. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I'm sure she was right, but I, the thing about Katherine Heigl that I don't like and she can't help is that she looks like a mean girl from high school.
00:29:35
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Does she look like the mean girl from your high school? um No, I'm just thinking my high school didn't have that mean of girls. Like okay the the the, the, the, like super pretty, like rich popular girls in my high school were all pretty nice.
00:29:51
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Like I can't think there's one girl, there's a couple of girls who were like just horrible bitches. One of whom is a famous YouTube celebrity now. um But they weren't, but they weren't pretty or popular.
00:30:05
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Yeah. oh Okay. Because it's just like, I don't see that and I don't get that. Because she seems very... like She's pretty, but she's like pretty in an accessible way, if that makes sense. I hate these terms. As an actress, I hate these fucking terms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. like Pretty in an accessible She's not like Malin...
00:30:24
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and Oh my god how do you pronounce her name? Mullen Ackerman is how you say her Mullen Ackerman. She's not like Mullen Ackerman which is why it's like perfect that she plays her sister who is drop dead gorgeous. Who looks like a model. yeah yeah. Who looks like a model. And it's like my note was oh she's a model that makes sense yeah.
00:30:38
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Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And but like she and she I think she's a good actor. I think she's a good rom-com actor. There's a sneer to her.
00:30:50
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And again, I don't think she can help this. And I don't want to like, you know, blame her for this. But it's there's a there's it's the nose and mouth thing. There's a sneer to her that I i just don't like.
00:31:02
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um And also, I think this character is poorly written. um I do. I also think this character is poorly written. It's so regressive. Like this movie is like so like, women like this, you know, like...
00:31:18
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she's like, I just want to get married. I'm like, God. This actually leads me into a really excellent point. So the movie is about Katherine Heigl, who I cannot remember her character's name.
00:31:32
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um Jane. But Jane, who ah works as an executive assistant for this like health company magazine. called It's called Urban Everest.
00:31:47
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Urban Everest, which is a terrible name, a terrible fucking name. Which I assumed to be like Patagonia or yeah something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they make, I think they make like outdoor clothing and supplies and stuff. Yeah, that makes sense.
00:32:03
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um But she works she works for this company. But like her main thing in life is to be the best bridesmaid there could ever Well, no. Her main thing in life is that she wants to get married. Which, like, but yeah I know that there are women who are very, like, romance-oriented. And, like, I'm very romance-oriented.
00:32:23
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But, like, and it's fine to do that. It's not anti-feminist to, like, want to get married. But like that is literally her whole life. Her job, she doesn't care about her job. The only reason she's there is because she's in love with her boss for i mean years.
00:32:39
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Yeah, she's in love with her boss. And like, I don't think that like it's that she wants to ah like her marriage is her main goal. I think that she is just very marriage oriented because she is in love with her boss and she wants that to happen.
00:32:52
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what What are some interests of hers other than marriage? Reading. Reading. we see her read in this movie? No. She reads the newspaper. no, no. She reads the newspaper.
00:33:05
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She reads the wedding announcements. she skipped She literally skips everything and goes to the wedding the the wedding announcements in the newspaper. Because this is before like really good rom-com books. So what is the girl supposed to do? But like live out her like fantasies, live vicariously through like these women. Or she could have or she could have any interest in her life outside of of men.
00:33:32
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She likes dogs.
00:33:36
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Does she? She likes George's dog because she's in love with him.
00:33:42
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she likes She likes helping people. um my God. Okay.
00:33:50
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So, yeah. she somehow has a million friends who are all getting – she's 30 is how old
Wedding Culture and Personal Stories
00:34:00
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she is. And also we should say Malin Ackerman and Katherine Heigl are the same age. I think Malin Ackerman is a few months older than Katherine Heigl. Yeah, but she plays two years younger.
00:34:08
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yeah we're not quite sure how much younger she is. But, yeah, she's she plays two younger sister in this. Yeah. Um, and she, which is, you know, when you're 30 is a time when a lot of your friends are getting married and like, Hey, do you know how many, how many weddings have you been in? Do you know?
00:34:22
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How many weddings have I been in? I've been in, let's see. one
00:34:27
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two, three, four, five,
00:34:36
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seven,
00:34:41
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I want to say like six or seven. Yeah. I think I've been in seven. my friend, I've been in my friend Chandler's wedding. Oh no, no, no, no. I've been in, I've been in eight.
00:34:53
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Yeah. Counting both my sisters. i've been my People love people. We are older than 30. Yeah. Counting both of my sisters. I've, I've been in eight weddings and like,
00:35:08
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And that's like most of my friends. I mean, I'm go definitely going, there's at least two more like friends that I have that are, that are not married, that are going to get married but in in a few years, I would say. and I will definitely be in those weddings.
00:35:20
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Yeah. And I've been in one friend's wedding twice. Um, uh, those weddings. I'm counting both. ah Chandler. Chandler listens to this show occasionally. Hey, Chandler.
00:35:33
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Hi, Chandler. Chandler has been married to a man and a woman, and I've been in both of those weddings. Oh, okay. So two different dresses. Yes. Yes.
00:35:44
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So, okay. So if you were to have a closet. Yeah, I guess that. Correct. I was going to say, if it's the same dress twice, doesn't count. No, no, no, no, no. um I have not.
00:35:55
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Have you ever worn bridesmaids dress again? Have you shortened it and worn it later? Yeah. i actually i actually just did with my friend Sarah's. There go. And it's really fucking cute. It's really fucking cute.
00:36:07
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Did you wear it to another wedding or did you wear it just as a dress? I actually haven't worn it yet. I was going to wear it to the closing. um But I think I'm going – you know what? Just because I'm going to pack and I'm going to wear it to an event.
00:36:21
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um There you go. In England. There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There go. I have, ah yeah, I, yeah, i've I will definitely, I'll definitely wear.
00:36:34
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um Yeah. I've also taken apart bridesmaids dresses and used the fabric. You can do that. Yeah, yeah, you can do that. You did rip apart your brother's wedding dress, though.
00:36:45
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No, of course not. God, no. My mom's wedding dress is is cleaned and preserved in a special box. And ah she is, if anyone has met my mother, hi Donna.
00:36:57
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She is a size double zero. Really? oh my God. That's annoying.
00:37:08
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So I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever in a million years. i mean, when she got married, she was probably like a two or a four. But ah ah never in a million years would I ever fit. Our bodies are just built different.
00:37:18
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ah Her dress was gorgeous. And like she had like this gorgeous hat um that had a veil. It was like oh absolutely stunning. um and The 80s. Buttons down the back. Yeah. ah Yeah. 79. So The Oh, that's when my parents got married. It was 79. Oh, look at that.
00:37:36
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Twinsies. And Caitlin's parents were also married in 79. I bet the wedding pictures look very similar. Yeah. I bet they do. My dad and his groomsmen wore light blue tuxedos with ruffles.
00:37:47
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Oh! Oh, I love that. My dad, I think they just wore, they either wore like brown suits or. Brown suits. Yeah. the the The bridesmaids dresses were brown.
00:37:59
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They were brown. The bridesmaids dresses were brown. oh my God. I think my, but I think my mom's bridesmaids dresses were brown too, actually. And they had hats. They had big hats. My mom was the only one with a hat.
00:38:12
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Oh my God. Yeah. I think my, I think my, brother I think my mom, my God. but That's crazy. Yeah. Right. Um, ah my mom had, wedding dress wasn't that bad though. Like it it was long sleeved.
00:38:25
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Uh, it was mine. with like but they were completely lace um and it was very it was very traditional actually um yeah she had a uh there's she had a painting done of her in the um in the wedding dress that's in my love that yeah oh my god i want a painting done of me in my wedding dress like my mom had she your grandma painted herself Like a self-portrait?
00:38:50
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Wow. That's very impressive. Yeah. It's in my picture. It's gorgeous. My mom had like coal black, straight as a pin hair down to her waist when she got married. Oh my God. god but She sounds like the love witch.
00:39:07
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um Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:11
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I've never. probably do on this pod. i don't know. We'll see. I'll have a lot to say about the love witch. I've never seen the love witch. Well, i the the writer and director is a TERF, so.
00:39:24
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Oh. Why you gotta to ruin the love witch, man? Why people gotta be from England, you know? I don't know Anyways, back to this movie.
00:39:36
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England's greatest export, transphobia.
00:39:42
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suck it, transphobia.
00:39:46
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um ah Yeah, 27... Oh, my God, 40 minutes in. We haven't even started of talking about this fucking movie. um Yeah, there's... Listen, there's some moments in this movie that I think are cute.
00:39:57
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Yes. But, like, if you had told me this before I watched it, that this movie was written by the same person who wrote Devil Wears Prada, like... I mean, if you... I i knew before. If you had told me afterward that this person was written... This was written by the same person wrote Devil Wears Prada, I'm like, what the fuck? Like, there's... Yeah.
00:40:12
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There's no... like overlap in the i think there's there's a toxic character brings down the protect the boy suck it has no redeeming value I mean, but I mean, problem is, is James Marsden plays it way more charismatically. And so you kind of really love James well yeah, because James Marsden is super cute and charismatic and Adrian Grenier is not.
00:40:41
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Yeah. And he's just a sad emo boy. um And so you're like- It's not a rom-com, but we will get, yeah we will watch it. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's, it's rom-com canon. And it fucking rules.
00:40:52
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Yeah, and it fucking rules. I fucking love Devil Wears Prada. Did I tell you about the first time Charlie ever watched the Devil Wears Prada? He constantly- Oh, God. it going to make me sad?
00:41:05
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he watched it he loves to watch these movies when i'm out of town and i'm not with it and i'm like are you fucking kidding me like that's wild come on and maybe it's probably because he misses you yeah i'm i'm sure that's why which is very sweet yeah but he uh he constantly was like polite he because they reference it in the office and so he's constantly pretending to be miranda priestly for like a hot 24 hours he was pretending to be miranda priestly I like that actually.
00:41:36
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Like in a joking way. it's it Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he would like walk in and he'll be like, get me Gucci on the phone. oh my God. That's pretty cute.
00:41:48
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I like that. It's very adorable. He probably doesn't. I was thinking he would, I was thinking you were going to say like, he was like, you don't and even understand the importance of cricket. You think cricket has no impact on your life, but really.
00:41:59
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but really don't understand everything you chose to do today is based on because of cricket based on cricket no it's not i reference devil wears product all the time at work but um anyways this movie which is about weddings i do not reference at work ah Yeah, i would imagine not.
00:42:23
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um So, yes, she has been a bridesmaid 27 times. There's narration at the beginning and end, and not at all in the middle, there's always the hallmark which is always the hallmark of a movie that had panicked edits, I think.
00:42:36
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Yeah. um Weird voiceover is my note. Yeah. Yeah. um Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. There are movie i there are some movies with some great narration. Those movies almost always have narration throughout.
00:42:50
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Like if there's narration at the beginning and at the end and not at all in the middle, that's usually a sign that it was added later in post. Not always, but I think that's usually a bad sign. Yeah. Yeah. We've got ah Judy Greer as the best friend who has like eight lines.
00:43:05
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ah Extremely underutilized. ah Right. Excellent actress. She's so great in this. She's so, so great in this. I mean, her character is she's horny as hell and she is ready to partay.
00:43:21
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She's a more interesting character than um Katherine Heigl's, I think. Yeah, and she stands up for Katherine Heigl all the time. And she goes, that's bullshit all the time, which is great. in the In the three scenes that she's in, yes. yeah um We've got James Marsden. This is the year after Enchanted. um ah and he is like,
00:43:41
Speaker
Again, he brings as much as he can to this, but unfortunately, i think the plot requires you to, like, just why does she like him? Like, he is, he does something so horrible to him. Yeah, but it's a rom-com. Everybody's hot. Like, that's the thing about- He's not nice.
00:44:00
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They have a good time together. time together. That scene where they're like trying on dresses and stuff like that. will Yeah. Where he's manipulating her and and and and like committing a crime. We'll get to There's a spark.
00:44:15
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At the beginning, we see that she has two weddings simultaneously. Yeah. Which is insane. Absolutely insane. Yeah. Have you ever been to a um what um um how do I phrase this? a A wedding of a culture that is not your own?
00:44:34
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Does British count? No, British does not count. Then Have you been to like a Jewish wedding or um a Hindi wedding or or something like that? Oh, yeah I'm going to a Jewish wedding.
00:44:46
Speaker
Yeah? It's a Jewish-British wedding, but yeah. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Um... The closest thing I've got is Catholic, um which... Oh, see, my wedding was Catholic.
00:44:58
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Oh, God. Was it three hours long? It was not three hours long, but it was 90 minutes. It was short version. Oh, that's way too Oh, my It was so fun, though. I was like, I love the pomp and circumstance of everything. And, like, the, like, it was also, it could be in my childhood church where I had my first communion, which is beautiful.
00:45:18
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It was for the aesthetic, Katie. It was like everything else I do in my fucking life. It was for the aesthetic. No other reason than appreciate the aesthetic. I love the aesthetic. Don't get me wrong.
00:45:28
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But it's interminable. I wanted it to smell like incense. Yeah. i You also got married in December, and my college roommate, Megan, got married in August.
00:45:39
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So um the it's it's a different vibe. Yeah, different vibe. but extremely long, um just so boring ah wedding. And I love matt Megan. Megan, if you're listening to this, I'm sorry.
00:45:54
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I love you. You're a good person. And yeah your kids are adorable. But your wedding was so long. That's what Charlie says about our wedding. So it's fine.
00:46:04
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That it was too long? Yeah. That it was too Yeah, you're he's right. 90 minutes is too long for wedding. Wedding ceremony should be like 15 minutes. and then We spiced it up. we had We had readings. We had like scripture. We had songs.
00:46:18
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We had so many fucking songs. We had my friend Martha singing a Doctor Who song that made me cry. ah Doctor Who song? Was she up there going... No,
00:46:32
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she... So we wanted... um We had, um you know, the Amy and Rory theme where it's like...
00:46:44
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Like it's like really like melodic And like Thomas behind you just like Perked completely up when you did that He goes what? I was gonna say like are you looking at this little lion Over here at him Producer Thomas doing his job yeah he's so cute Buddy So really she just went up there and like Vocalized an instrumental song ah No, it there's vocals in it.
00:47:08
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um oh okay, okay. And I got her the sheet music. And she sang a bunch of really beautiful songs, and i cried. it was It was amazing because she's a really talented singer. Yeah. It was a good time. we um Yeah, we had some, ah like, our wedding, we got married outside under a waterfall. Humble Humble brag.
00:47:25
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Yeah. and But like, and also, you know, it's interesting, like the the the number of people who were in our wedding ah that we're no longer friends with is odd, you know?
00:47:40
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Yeah. Like it was just a time in our lives that was kind of unique, you know? Yeah. um Because a lot of my closest- you over ah We should. a lot of our A lot of our closest friends were not at or in our wedding because yeah you know we moved to Chicago afterward and then like had a whole new circle of friends and stuff. and like um like For example, like if you or I got married you know today, i feel like we would probably be bridesmaids in each other's wedding. Of course. Absolutely 1,000%. How funny would it be if I was like, ooh.
00:48:15
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Didn't make the cut, Katie. um don't know about you but uh i've got a thousand friends no 27 other friends that are gonna that are gonna miss that um can you imagine if you were going to katherine heigl's friends who didn't make the cut on her bridesmaids at the end of this movie yeah right but like here's my thing here's my thing about the amount of bridesmaids right okay so let's skip to the end of this movie yeah But it also has to do with the beginning because she during the voiceover, as she's talking about this, I was like, I'm pretty sure that she is a sociopath and she's just doing this to make, she makes friends purely so that she can become a bridesmaid. Like she yeah goes, she's reading the, um, the wedding announcement section so she can hunt for friends so that she can find friends. Yeah.
00:49:10
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And then she can like then manipulate them into thinking she is their best friend and she's going to do everything for them so that she can be a bridesmaid and she can feel some sense of importance.
00:49:21
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So like she's some sort of. The only thing she cares about in her life is weddings. Yes. Yeah, but I don't think it's weddings. I think it's the the feeling of feeling valued because her mom died whenever they were young and she had her sister look after.
00:49:35
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It's that sense of she wants to feel appreciated and valued and she wants to be thanked. And um i think that's the core of her character. But we don't get any of that psychology. they don't There's no discussion of that.
00:49:46
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Well, if you think enough about it. like Maybe they cut it out. I don't know. I think it's pretty obvious. um there is a um There is a bit where ah in the... Yeah, so she's got two weddings on the same night. She's got this taxi driver driving her between these two weddings. And it seems like nobody knows.
00:50:07
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but Yeah. Which is like crazy. Like, how would you time that well enough to be present for the speeches? Like, you don't really know when they're going to stop for a speech. Like, that's not... I mean, maybe I guess she planned it.
00:50:18
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So maybe it is down to the minute. Yeah. Yeah. And because you can imagine someone like, and then thank you, Jane. Where the hell is Jane? Why is Jane not here? You know? Yeah. Why is Jane not here?
00:50:30
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Jesus motherfucking Christ. So, um yes. So she's got, um yeah, she's got those two weddings on the same night. She's, ah but, and she's, yeah, she puts all this responsibility on herself. Like she's running the show.
00:50:44
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I don't know if she's the maid of honor in either of those, but she's the de facto. don't think she Yeah. Because she's she's holding the bride's dress while she pees. And I feel like that's maid of honor duty, you know? Yeah, but unless like your maid of honor is your sister who's off getting fucked by a groomsman.
00:51:00
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That's fair. Yeah, that's fair.
00:51:05
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Oh, sorry. what Down comes the prince. Oh, you just like stopped and and looked up. Because Charlie was walking downstairs. um Right on getting fucked by a groomsman. Right. Getting fucked by a groomsman. And there's my husband.
00:51:20
Speaker
Yeah. um Have you ever hooked up at a wedding? extremely long i don't think so right i think i've been married for most of the weddings i mean again like you and got married really young so oh he just walked in for that but he didn't hear your question um but uh but yeah i i think that i mean does having sex with your husband count no no it does not oh he said don't mention that cut it out
00:51:50
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But like the, but it's, it's like a, it's like ah a trope, right? Like the, um, the bridesmaids and the, uh, and the groomsmen hook up. Or if you're just like yeah at a wedding, like hooking up with somebody, with some stranger from the other family at a wedding is like thing. happened at our wedding. Like crazy. People hooked up. Yeah. Oh boy.
00:52:10
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um god i don't think anybody hooked up at our wedding that's sad mean maybe they did they just didn't tell us i mean our wedding was a party it was a hardcore party yeah so was ours so was ours ours was like at a at a bed and breakfast kind of out of the way though and so like the wedding party was staying there and but nobody else was so I think because like the chunk of our friends were in the wedding party. So everyone was at the hotel.
00:52:36
Speaker
So like there was like a party before there's a party after like it was just it was a good time. Everyone had a great time. Everyone continually comes up to me and says how much fun they had at our wedding, which was my same. Same.
00:52:47
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We had a really good wedding. That was also our goal. Yeah. Yeah. um but uh yes so um yeah so she's a sociopath yeah path we learn about she gets knocked unconscious at the bouquet toss and she meets uh which is like bad if you get knocked unconscious you should go to the hospital like getting knocked unconscious is really bad yeah yeah um And she meets James Marsden there.
00:53:18
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ah He has like seen her a couple of times. He's noticed that she's leaving to go to another wedding. And he's like, hey, I'm Kevin. Yep. I'm Kevin. I don't like the name Kevin.
00:53:30
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The only Kevin there should be is Kevin McAllister. Yes, exactly. No offense to Kevin's, I guess. Right? Yeah. And, uh, and he takes, he takes her home in a cab, uh, or rather he rides with her in the cab that she had already hired.
00:53:49
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And like, he is talking to her about, like, I think he went to two weddings and stuff and she's like, that's crazy. And she goes home and she leaves her paper planner in the cab.
00:54:03
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Which is like. That's the time, baby. I mean, was it? is two thousand and seven two thousand and eight It was a paper planner for years. I mean, I have a paper planner now, actually.
00:54:15
Speaker
Maybe you're just like Jane. Jane. But it's like intentional, like did like having it on my phone is not helpful. So I need to write it down and have it physically. It's like an ADHD thing. like Maybe Jane has ADHD and that's why she can't make friends.
00:54:30
Speaker
She's got something. And he's talking about how he doesn't like weddings. And because, of course, that's what it's about. And he finds her. He's super jaded. He finds her planner and that is like when his evil plan comes together.
00:54:45
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yep He finds out that she has been a bridesmaid 27 times. He found, because apparently this wedding planner goes back multiple years. It's hard to say. hasn't found out that that it's 27 at that point. He doesn't find out until he goes to her apartment and sees the dresses.
00:54:59
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He, he sees the planner, sees that every single wedding for all of the summer is, or every single weekend for the rest of her summer is, is, Yeah, she is in a wedding and like, yeah, or doing wedding events or like she's doing a wedding event and then going to a wedding in the evening.
00:55:15
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And so he's like, this is a she's got he takes it to his boss, who's not 27 at this point, because there's at least two more weddings that she's in in the movie. So like the movies, at the movies very beginning, she's only been in like 23 weddings.
00:55:29
Speaker
Oh yeah, so, you know, a little bit more attainable. ah But he takes it to his boss, who's Jen from the office, or Jan from the office. Melora Hardin, yes. And he's just like, look at look at how crazy this planner is for this chick that was in two weddings in one And she's like, okay, cool. And he's like, no, no, no, but like look at how crazy this is.
00:55:47
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like I think this is a story. I don't want to write about weddings anymore. And she was like, you write for the style section. The stupidest thing in the world. right something is a He writes for the New York Journal, which i guess is supposed to be... The New York Which is supposed to be the New York Times. Yeah. The club that we give it makes me feel like it's the New York Times. Yeah.
00:56:08
Speaker
Garbage newspaper, by the way. um ah They... um He writes for the wedding. He writes the commitments section. So he writes the little articles about, like, these two people did such and blah, blah, blah, blah. blah And which which Jane is obsessed with and reads yeah religiously, but doesn't know that it's him because he uses a different name for his byline.
00:56:30
Speaker
A Noom Plume. Yeah. um And Noom. he But here's the stupidest thing. He's like, I want to write about serious wedding journalism. Like, not even...
00:56:47
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and It's not even like he wants, it's always like in a rom-com. It's like, you have made me write these dumb articles and I want to write about serious journalism, but he wants to write like, he wants to write a hit piece on this random woman.
00:57:01
Speaker
Basically the point of his article is look how sad this woman is. like Even the New York times would not, I don't think publish an article like that.
00:57:11
Speaker
I don't, I just don't think in if that that's slow news week. First of all, first of all, um without her consent, like that's just straight up illegal. Like that's not, there's, he posted all those photos of her that he took under false pretenses. That's a, that's, that's a, that's a likeness rights issue. Like she could sue them and win.
00:57:32
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Yeah. I mean, don't know what, what the legality was in 2006 though. Like where were we in an image, image copyright law? Pretty sure you still had to sign a release for your photo to be in the newspaper.
00:57:46
Speaker
I don't know. You could shoot on any street in New York City. Illegally, yes. You still had to get a permit.
00:57:58
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But I think that he doesn't think that it's look at how sad this woman is. I think he genuinely thinks it's a fun personality piece. I think that he thinks that it's a fun human interest story. Well, then why he feel bad about it? And why does he out? Because he realizes how shitty it is. He realizes how shitty it is because he kind of passive-aggressively doesn't like her at the beginning. And so he like passive-aggressively writes the article.
00:58:23
Speaker
and doesn't like her because she's unlikable. And then he falls in love with her and he changes his mind, but he can't change the article because he's already sent the draft to his boss um and she published it without his consent.
00:58:36
Speaker
Yeah. We're getting way ahead of it, but yes. That doesn't matter. he is, it is one of those rom-coms and this happens a lot where the person meets somebody under false pretenses and is using them throughout without their knowledge and then that person forgives them and ends up with him at the end anyway which is like always a really tough line to thread and in this one I just don't think it works like why would she forgive him she has no reason to like because they're in love oh wow um
00:59:10
Speaker
on What else? Kristen Ritter has like three lines in this movie. Yeah, Kristen Ritter's great. She has a goth wedding, which rules. a This must have been right before Breaking Bad.
00:59:23
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I wonder if this is what got her on Breaking Bad, actually. Maybe. Because she's this i mean she's kind of goth in that, too. Um... And then we have ed Burns, who plays George, another yeah um boring name.
00:59:39
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Yep. Another boring guy. He is her boss that she's in love with. But here's the thing. like He is the only good person out of the the main cast of this movie. That's kind of debatable, though.
00:59:51
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he Okay. um Because he's just like... yeah I don't know. I just don't like him. i just don't like him. He's kind of like, cause he takes advantage of Jane. He takes advantage of her kindness and everything that she does for him and is like blinded to it. Her sister. Yes.
01:00:14
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He doesn't notice that she's in love with him, which is yeah not a crime. but But she like goes above and beyond. Anyone who's a sane person would know that the stuff that Jane does for him is above and beyond the duties of an executive assessor. Sure.
01:00:30
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But is that his fault or is that her fault? And also, it seems like she gets paid really well based on her apartment in Manhattan. He have like... He could have like, he could have like ah given her a promotion.
01:00:43
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i feel like a thousand times because she's been in this job for like, what, six years, 10 years? A promotion to what? Like, i isn't she at the highest level? don't know. I feel like he could give her a better job.
01:00:57
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She probably turned it down because that would mean less time with him because she's obsessed with him. ah I just feel like there's just something about him that just feels off. There's something about him that screams red flag.
01:01:10
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Okay. I didn't get that. i um I thought that he was like a perfectly nice boy who um is written. Just dumb guy. He's just very underwritten, you know? um Like a lot of this movie.
01:01:24
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Yeah, I mean like he's fine, but like he's just like, he's dumb in like and like, obviously. But he do better than Tess. Like he doesn't deserve Tess. Tess is like so blatantly like just walking all over him and like just manipulating him and he's just like so blinded to it it's just sort of like i don't know he's just dumb laughing laughing Yeah, yeah, fair enough. me like, again, I didn't want her to end up with him either. But like, yeah, he's not as bad. I think that he's more likable than James Morrison in this movie, basically.
01:02:00
Speaker
So he yeah, okay, a little bit, but like actively working to humiliate her, which is what James Morrison is. No, he just naturally does it by being her boss and not giving her promotion.
01:02:14
Speaker
The promotion thing is something that you've invented. Like that's not in this movie.
'27 Dresses' Critique and Character Dynamics
01:02:21
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But he should give her a promotion. It's not like she's like, ah I don't make enough money. Or like, oh, I really wish I could get a promotion. Or like, I want to do something else. She has no desires. She has nothing in her life except for getting married.
01:02:34
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She could do better. And if he just gave her the opportunity. She should totally be doing something better. She should have some kind of passion for something like a hobby or a job or anything other than getting married in her life.
01:02:48
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I think I'm just mad at the fact that she's so underwritten that she has none of those things that I'm putting it on George. Yeah, okay, so you're blaming the man for it, which is i'm reasonable, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry, George. You're a very kind man who has a, ah very who's very close to um your brother from the Little Brothers and Sisters, and you have an adorable Yeah, Pedro.
01:03:09
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And you do great things for He has a Bernese Mountain Dog, which is adorable. Absolutely adorable. Love a Bernese Mountain Dog, yeah. Yes. um Big Goofus is what a Bernese Mountain Dog is.
01:03:21
Speaker
Oh, big buddy. Yeah. Yeah, there's a Bernese Mountain Dog in our building named Glen Coco. Oh, Glen Coco! You go, Glen Coco! Which is the same reason why my mom named our hamster Forrest when I was a kid. So when he got on the wheel, she could say and Run, Forrest, run.
01:03:44
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And so when g when coco goes when Glen Coco goes to the bathroom, her owner says, you go, Glen Coco. Yeah. That's kind of why I named our last car Betty. um So that I could go that my Betty. Oh, Betty.
01:03:57
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b e oh black e e yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that because she was a black Hyundai. And so you go black
01:04:09
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I don't know any of the words. That is how the song goes. there i don't I don't think there are words. I think it's bam, a lamb, a lamb, a lamb, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Black Betty. I'm not joking. I think i think i don't really think it is. that that i'm i'm I'm being sincere. yeah It's Black Betty had a something, bam and lam. Black Betty went wild, blam, lam.
01:04:27
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It sounds like it might be a racist song. I'm very sorry. no. Black Betty by Ram Jam rock tradition. The name of the band is Ram Jam 1977. The song is a rock edition of a traditional folk song with ambiguous origins and interpretations.
01:04:43
Speaker
Oh, one of which is a, it's ah it's a transport van. It's a prison transport wagon. Oh, yeah. Well, the song's super catchy, and I thought it was fun funny to name the car Betty and go, Black Betty, bam, bam, bam,
01:05:03
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So, yes. ah Speaking of 70s music, they, um so he is, oh my God, we haven't even gotten to this. So, Malin Ackerman is her younger sister who sucks and is a model in Italy who has come back to New York just for a little bit and is staying with her, meets George Ed Burns, her boss that Katherine Heigl's in love with,
01:05:25
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instantly forms a connection with him there's a montage i'm not really sure how much time is supposed to pass not much i have no idea also i don't know i don't think she's a model i think that she's just a euro trash like hopping around europe sleeping with dudes working for whatever company she can oh i got that she was a model but i know she she says later on she goes i'm not really perfect i got fired from my job because i couldn't do anything
01:05:56
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um ah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Okay. yeah um But ah she is there and she instantly like starts dating ed Burns and then she lies about every aspect of herself to get him to like her.
01:06:09
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She says she's vegan or vegetarian. Yeah. Which, like, first of all, don't lie about being vegetarian. know Don't do it. But secondly, like, who hasn't done a little bit of that in the past? But you don't marry that person, you marry that person. And she does it with a specific, like, she at it in such, like, malicious ways where she's just, like, they're at dinner with their dad or brunch with their dad. And he's just like, oh, how long are you staying?
01:06:37
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ah What's her sister's name? Tess. Tess. what's how long are staying tess and she goes oh you know i think like you know two weeks or maybe longer if some things pan out wink wink and yeah jane is like what do you mean some things he goes um just some things and it is the fact that she's manipulating george so that she can like move in and marry him so that she has a place to live and a rich husband Yes, exactly. And she like, um she interviews Katherine Heigl about him and finds out all the stuff about him so she can like lie and create this personality.
01:07:13
Speaker
Like how did the sweet father of two daughters create two sociopaths? Yeah, yeah. And like, but like their mom died when she was young and like Jane raised Tess. But like, I apparently really poorly. Yeah, ah apparently in her sociopathic ways.
01:07:32
Speaker
I guess so. um So yeah, so she is hurt by this. um they ah They get engaged and decide to get married in three weeks because the Central Park Boathouse is available then.
01:07:46
Speaker
It has a cancellation. but Somebody canceled. Honestly, like i have um I have a wedding I couldn't make it to, but I did have a friend get married at the Central Park Boathouse. Yeah, I know. But I watch out there i would it would I mean, they did get divorced, but um it I could I don't remember why, because I wasn't I mean wasn't living in New York anymore. But I don't know. There was some something must have I must have had a show or something and I couldn't make it to that way. So.
01:08:13
Speaker
And not going lie, lately in the crazy post-COVID wedding industry years, last-minute cancellations and pushing your wedding up because you get a spot at your venue from last-minute cancellations is very common.
01:08:32
Speaker
The amount of times yeah I've had brides come in and been like, yeah, so I know that I said that my wedding was 2026, but really my wedding is going to be November of 2025. And I'm like, girl, that is when all gowns are being delivered today. I mean, that's that's still not like three weeks though. Like three weeks is yeah crazy, but it's a movie. You got to, you know, it's also not uncommon. we We had someone come in who said their wedding was next Oh my God, they didn't have a dress and it was next week.
01:09:04
Speaker
That's yeah fucking nuts. um So i mean my parents met and got married in three months, actually. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Charlie and I got married, but we and we eloped and then we did the big wedding and we like planned. You also like.
01:09:18
Speaker
got married so he could move to America. Right. Right. Well, it was so that I can move to England, but then England started to suck and wouldn't let in immigrants. And so. Right, right, right, right, right.
01:09:29
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I forgot where I was going. Anyways, 27 dresses. Oh, there yeah. so there So he is like, hey, I'm Malcolm, whatever. I'm the guy who writes things. Like, you're the the guy who and he says, like, oh, I have your book. He gives it back to her. And then he but he like steals pages and is trying to like blackmail her for a date.
01:09:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's really fucked up. Like he harasses No, he harasses her.
01:09:56
Speaker
And tries you tries to blackmail her her into a date and is secretly also just trying to write an article about how pathetic she is. Yeah, but I think he also, there's like something there. Like there's a spark.
01:10:11
Speaker
Eventually, yes. Bro, what's the fuck? Yeah. He is pretending to write an article about her sister's wedding, which also pisses her off. She's getting married in the place where where she wanted to get married. She gets their mother's wedding dress, which she wanted to wear. yeah She's stealing her wedding. And she's but and and she's being like like, does she even love this guy? like We don't really know. She's just manipulating him.
01:10:34
Speaker
yeah stupid circumstances and she's just doing it all and like taking it in stride and not even thinking of her sister in any way shape or form of like the fact that this is everything that her sister has ever wanted and like talked about her entire life yes and yes um she's just like oh great yeah okay i'm gonna do it and now i'm gonna take this dress to um saleh and um saleh is going to tear it up and make this hideous empire waste dress that feels very 2006 yeah yeah um
01:11:05
Speaker
And so James Marsden is like involved in part of the wedding planning because he's supposedly writing this article about it. Again, this is back in 2008 where it took you two months to write one newspaper article. Yeah.
01:11:16
Speaker
It was a different time. You got paid like it was a job. Yeah. Yeah. yeah um And he is ah going with, they're they're going out to Rhinebeck to get linens or something. And there's a storm and they're fighting in the car and she runs off the road and the car gets stuck. So they go to a bar.
01:11:36
Speaker
And this is another extremely cringe moment in this movie. Earlier in the movie, somebody asks her, I think it's George, where he asks her, what's your favorite part of the wedding? And she's like, everybody looks at the bride. i like to look at the groom and see him as he sees her.
01:11:53
Speaker
I'm like, yeah, everybody does that. That's the most cliche. Because of this movie. No, no, no. Because of this movie. The groom's first look at the bride is like, that's everybody's favorite part of a wedding. That's ridiculous.
01:12:09
Speaker
And then they go to this bar and then she asks him, she goes, well, what's one thing you like about a wedding? And he's like, well, you know, when the bride comes in and everyone looks at her. It's like, yeah, of course it is.
01:12:20
Speaker
Because that's, that's a famous like thing. because of this movie and she's like oh my god i can't believe no one's ever said that before it's not like the photographer takes a specific picture of that at every wedding because of this movie i don't buy that i don't think that's true there's a picture from my parents wedding of my dad's like first look at the bride that's because photographers have to get all all like angles i'm i'm walking back my statement too And then they are, and then Benny and the Jets is playing and yeah they don't know the words to Benny and the Jets because no one knows the words to Benny and the Jets.
01:12:55
Speaker
And they start a big sing along in the bar. And I guess that's cute. And they, they start singing on the bar. And this is, this is the one part that really bugged me was the fact that Catherine, Catherine Heigl gets on the bar with her bare ass feet and is dancing around in bare feet on the bar. That's gross. She's five 10 too. Like that's a tall ceiling in that bar then. Yeah.
01:13:17
Speaker
gross put on some damn shoes don't want your bare feet where i'm gonna be like eating food she was probably wearing like sandals or wedges or something yeah and they were muddy from the uh rain yeah whatever then don't get on the fucking bar and uh so then they fuck in the car in yeah a field in the middle of nowhere um which is terrifying um
01:13:45
Speaker
But also super sexy. There's a real like, no, it's not. It's not. It's scary. I could never in a million years because the only thing I could think about would be that urban legend of like the hook, you know, where the hook guy.
01:13:58
Speaker
yeah Yeah. But like, you just got to think this. It's just you and me, baby. huh. Yeah. Until the hook guy kills you and I wake up the next morning and your body's dangling above the, the, um, the car. Also very uncomfortable. Yeah.
01:14:16
Speaker
Uh, yeah. I mean, yeah for sure. Um, we've talked about having sex in cars before. Yeah. yeah Especially as she's also very tall. Yes. Tall women. She's taller than him. next Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:14:29
Speaker
yeah yeah Um, the, uh, so yeah, then the next morning they're at this diner and, um, they find out that the article was published, even though he tried to convince Melora Harden to hold it. Um, she published it anyway, and he has humiliated her on the front page of the wedding section in the New York times, yeah which is an unforgivable act.
01:14:51
Speaker
There are things about rom-coms, like, and like we talked about this in Anyone But You, where there's a line you can't cross where in the like enemies to lovers thing, where if you do something that's too mean, you do something that's too far, like you it's hard to come back from that.
01:15:07
Speaker
And I feel like that happens lot in of these rom-coms. I don't think this is a line too far. I think he can walk it back. He can walk it back. He didn't give his consent.
01:15:18
Speaker
He didn't... like he can She didn't give her consent. That like he wrote it what before he really got to know her. um And he can write a retraction piece.
01:15:29
Speaker
but every A retraction piece in the in the weddings section? yeah okay Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially like their, I feel like their wedding announcement is the retraction piece.
01:15:43
Speaker
Okay. Okay. I'm going to keep defending this fucking movie, man. i wrote, this isn't funny or cute. She's unpleasant and he sucks.
01:15:56
Speaker
i'm ah Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That selfish whore. i'm like, yes. Was that talking about Tess? Yeah, because she calls her a selfish. Yeah, she calls her sister a selfish whore. Yeah, you're right. She's 100%. Yeah.
01:16:12
Speaker
um But then so so that happens. And then they come back from that. She's just like cut off James Marsden. And she goes to like meet with her sister at her dress fitting, which is Adam Saleh, which is a wedding designer.
01:16:27
Speaker
um And she sees the dress that is Tess's wedding dress. And she goes, I thought you were wearing mom's dress. She's like, this is mom's wedding dress.
01:16:38
Speaker
Well, parts of it. I saved other parts for you. just this part just the lace um and the rest of it's brand new and um here's the rest of the scraps for when you get married and obviously still in style then right and obviously katherine heigl is heartbroken because she wanted to wear her mom's wedding dress as is um which just like it's just it heartbroken like that that's the moment when you're just like Tess fucking sucks.
01:17:09
Speaker
She needs to die. um And ah then we like cut to the rehearsal dinner where Tess has written up her sister of the bride maid of honor speech for Katherine Heigl.
01:17:22
Speaker
Because she's like, just read these things because the article that came out about you was humiliating for me. Oh yeah, it's all about her. yeah yeah it's all about her. she's And we need some good press.
01:17:34
Speaker
ah And so she's just like, here's here's what we wrote. And um I thought it would be really cute if we did like a slideshow of George and me. um And so Katherine Heigl takes that and now she's...
01:17:46
Speaker
i She thinks of Tess as just that bitch who ripped up her mom's wedding dress. She is dead to her. And, ah but she pretends it's all okay for the rehearsal dinner so that she can give this presentation of this up, this new and improved slideshow, which still includes childhood photos of George, but also photos of Tess and,
01:18:12
Speaker
in all of her lies as she really is yeah yeah she's eating slack ribs slack of ribs a stack of ribs i don't know slate of ribs um and she has she has her engagement ring so it's a recent photo yeah yep she has her engagement ring on she is like running away from a dog she is um holding a cat by its back legs yep ah holding a cat by its back legs being super um slutty at a club with some euro trash dudes um and just basically proving the fact that she lied about everything and so
01:18:49
Speaker
George is like, da fuck? And Tess is like, hold on, I can explain. And George is like, okay, what, what? And she's like, I can't explain, actually. No, that's all.
01:19:00
Speaker
Oh, God. and um And everyone is super mad at Katherine Heigl for doing this. but And like it keeps cutting to their dad and he's like, I'm so disappointed. And I'm like, really?
01:19:13
Speaker
Like, this is like, no, she's right. This is what happens. She is right. Like, I don't think what she did. mean, what she did wasn't great. But don't think was didn't need publicly, sure. She didn't need to do it publicly.
01:19:24
Speaker
She didn't need to do it in front of everybody at the, but is it the rehearsal dinner? It's the rehearsal dinner, yeah. At the rehearsal dinner. But like, she she she definitely should have told George, you can't you can't let that happen. Like, you can't do that.
01:19:36
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. That was a little bit much. But for the sake of drama, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah, like yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then... I honestly can't remember what happens after the rehearsal dinner. um ah she ah like she She throws out all her dresses, which she should have done a long time ago. She's kept all of these dresses, which is insane. All of these dresses from hideous weddings.
01:19:59
Speaker
From all of them. like They have this like little montage earlier where he is manipulating her in order to humiliate her in the New York Times. but they're just having a really sweet moment. That's how it seems. Like in another rom-com, it would be a cute moment where he's taking pictures of her in all the dresses, where which is also manufacturing a false consent for have these photos to be published in the newspaper, which is definitely illegal.
01:20:21
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And...
01:20:24
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um He, i yeah, so she wears all of them and kind of explains all of them. There's that Gone with the Wind wedding, which like, yeah red flag. problematic. Red flag. Also, there's no black people in this movie, we should say. This movie is oh yeah extremely white.
01:20:40
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um I mean, the only people of color is um James Marsden's co-worker who ends up hooking up. Malik Panchali, who is Jonathan from 30 Rock.
01:20:53
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Yeah. And um the cab driver.
01:20:59
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no I think he's white. His name is Ziggy, isn't it?
01:21:04
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Yeah, I think it's just Jonathan from 30 Rock. Yeah, it's pretty, it's it's extremely white movie. um Oh, no, wait. um She was in an Asian wedding and they make a really like problematic joke it. Oh, where she's wearing a kimono and stuff. But here's the thing, like, I mean, like, if you're in an Indian wedding, like, you do wear a sari. Like, that's not, it's not cultural appropriation if you are in a wedding of that culture and they have invited you to do it.
01:21:31
Speaker
No, it is cultural appropriation if they make a joke out of the fact that everybody in the wedding is short and you're super tall. Yes. like That's just a racist joke. That's just racist. It's just racist joke. Yeah. Yeah. That's just racist.
01:21:44
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Yeah. And also, these are friends that she doesn't see or speak about in the movie ever again. That she is only friends with so she can be in their wedding so that they will be in her wedding.
01:21:56
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egg Oh, that's the other thing. She says, like, at some, you know, they'll all be, they'll all show up for me when I finally get married, because that's the only thing she cares about. I wrote, it's like the person who made this movie hated this character and wanted to humiliate her.
01:22:08
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um She's so pathetic. She's not that pathetic. She's just, she's a rom-com protagonist. Things are happening to her. She can't control her feelings.
01:22:21
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Right, right, right, right. um So they she is quitting her job ye and is with George. He's called off the wedding. Yeah, of course, obviously. And she's like, you know, the only reason I worked at this job for so long is because I had a big crush on you. And he's like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know. And then they kiss and it's like, oh, I didn't feel anything. And he's like, me neither. It's like, okay, cool. yeah And then and done that year he doesn't give...
01:22:46
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He doesn't give her a go get your girl speech. They don't talk about James Marsden at all, but she suddenly gets this like revelation that she should forgive him. Because she felt something in the kiss.
01:22:57
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Because she felt something when kissing James Marsden, but she didn't feel anything when kissing George, her dream man. I get that. So she has to go after. but I'm just saying there's no go get your girl speech in this movie. Okay.
01:23:09
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Yes. So she has to drive across town and find him. He's, he's at a wedding um because that's what he does. Yeah. And she again, humiliates herself ah by giving him this speech.
01:23:25
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yeah Well, the bride recognizes her and like gets her up on the stage. Yeah. I'm like, she, she jumps in heels onto a boat, which is impressive.
01:23:36
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Yeah. um ah And it's framed in the way that it's the actress who did it. So good for her. um
01:23:44
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It's ah fighting with you is the best thing that's ever happened to me. Really? I feel like there were like better moments. Maybe like, and then I just wrote, was so um and he says, get over here, which is yeah no, you had me at hello. Like that is get over here is, but it's done so charismatically. I'd do it.
01:24:09
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James Marsden turned to you and went, get over here, you'd go over there and make out with him. It depends on whether or not he humiliated me and the pages of the New York Times.
01:24:20
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No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. It does not matter. It does not matter. It is James Martin. He is charismatic. He has built a full-fledged character out of a paper doll.
01:24:33
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I don't know if I would go that far. um They kiss, and then we cut to the wedding a year later. They're getting married. Everyone has to hook up now. George and Tess, like, are getting back together. Why?
01:24:46
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Not really. They just see each other for the first time. And they like, feel like the implication time is like, Hey, Hey, Hey. Oh yeah. Also we shouldn't totally not forget that. Um, Tess, um, takes advantage of Pedro.
01:25:04
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And, like, gets him to, like, clean the other guy's apartment. And, like, oh, my God, it's awful. So, like, some of the ruining at the um rehearsal dinner is not done by Katherine Heigl. It's not done by Jane. That's true. Because she didn't manufacture that. that's I just, yeah, in in his speech, she's just like, I just really want to, Jane's pretty cool, or Tess is pretty cool. um She's helping me start my own, um she encouraged me to start my own cleaning business.
01:25:30
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Yeah. Because she lets me clean. And she's racist. Yeah. Yeah. um And then, of course, the last shot is ah we pull back and we see that all of the 27 people who got married are wearing their own bridesmaids dresses to her wedding.
01:25:47
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Yep. Yep. To which at first I was like, is this just like some sort of hallucination or like, you know, artistic, like, you know, this actually isn't there. They're like spiritually with her, you know, yeah um and there's no one there.
01:26:01
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um But then during the credits, we see like little like newspaper article um headlines. And one of them is the bridesmaids outnumbered the guests.
01:26:13
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it It also says that there were 27 bridesmaids, and that that's not true. There were 29 bridesmaids because Judy Greer and Malin Ackerman are also bridesmaids. So, like, yeah maybe you should double check check your numbers.
01:26:26
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yeah Where's your fact checker? ah Graphics team that put together the closing credits. um
01:26:36
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Um, there is a little bit of a Charlie's corner for this movie. So we've got Charlie's corner, Charlie's corner, Charlie's corner. I got up.
01:26:47
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Oh, that was really cute. um Charlie was very concerned that whenever um Jane and George were kissing, that the it was going to flip the script and she was going to end up with George, that George was like end game.
01:27:02
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ah I guess because he also thought George was the best guy. Yeah. um I mean, he is better than James Marsden. And so he was just like, he was worried because he was like, I really hope that that's not the way that this is going to go. Cause they've obviously like, she has more chemistry with James Marsden. And so I was concerned that it was going to end like that.
01:27:21
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And I was like, Oh, nice. Cool. He also thought that, um, Tess was the worst. um and There's no way anybody could watch this movie and not think that Tess is the worst. Yeah. it's She is very strategically and just intensely written to be the worst.
01:27:39
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Absolutely. 100%. Yeah. um So, yeah. um Don't watch this movie. um listen Or watch it. you just Form your own opinion.
01:27:51
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Form your own opinion.
01:27:58
Speaker
Yeah. ah What movie are we watching next week, Katie? Next week, we are going to continue the wedding
Podcast Wrap-Up and Future Plans
01:28:05
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theme. ah ah Again, and we are going to watch Plus One.
01:28:10
Speaker
I wanted to watch this! Yeah, it's cute. It's yeah from like 2023 or something. It's more recent, yeah. Oh, fabulous. I can't wait. Yeah.
01:28:20
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I love Jack Quaid. She's going to go to England for two weeks. So there'll be a gap in our recording, but not in yeah um not in your listening, of course. Yeah, but I'll come back with lots of stories about cricket.
01:28:35
Speaker
um We can just, you know, you don't need to. this yeah know Stories about other things. And I won't tell you stories about the ghost tour in Brighton. Or sorry, Bristol. Whatever.
01:28:48
Speaker
Anyway, shall we outro? Let's outro. so angry i got really worked up in this episode you did yeah yeah because i disagree it's okay it's okay it's okay it's okay and this isn't even la la land you just wait katie is that yeah i'm gonna say yeah i mean one day we're gonna record a movie that that you hate and i love but i i don't know what that would be that we already did that oh yeah yeah yeah bull durham yeah we did bull durham i was about to say bo burnham
01:29:22
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no he's a sweetheart is a sweetheart but i thought that the name of the movie was bo burnum bo burnham i was like no that's the comedian it's bull durham yeah yeah anyways here we go okay i keep seeing one one real quick thing i keep seeing like like i'm like caitlin's home and then and then like because she gets off so much earlier than me sometimes and then i'll come home and i'll see like netflix is open and like i'll notice she's watched bo burnham's inside like twice this month i'm like honey yeah hey like yeah need to talk about charlie and i do that a lot sometimes when you feel really how you doing it's really good to put that on not great yeah not great yeah
01:30:04
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It's like that in the air store. It is great, but it's a depression watch for sure. It's a depression watch. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
01:30:19
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01:30:34
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01:30:46
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Asking it to love us.