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The Parent Trap
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In this episode, Emma & Katie head off to camp to discuss 1998's The Parent Trap, which introduced both Lindsay Lohan to the world, and Nancy Meyers in her directing debut. We go deep on camp stories, ocean liners, rich people problems, the Disney Channel in the 90s, gay subtext, mischief, spiders, but mostly how truly terrible these parents would have ot be to put these poor girls through this ordeal.
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Introduction and Song Reference
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Let's get together, yeah, yeah. Why don't you and I combine? Let's get together, yeah, yeah.
00:00:12
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um Not in this movie. Nope, but in the original. Save for she kind of hums it to herself for a second. Yep, they had to drop that in there. ah Because it was ah famous with the original movie.
00:00:27
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Yeah, um we're jumping right into it, I guess, huh? I mean, let's get together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:00:36
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I'm going to have to knock your audio down so many decibels.
00:00:42
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I think I just heard Charlie close his door. Yeah.
Personal Anecdotes and Bridal Store Experience
00:00:46
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Oh, can I tell you about the wonderful day I had yesterday? Please do. It is the most dreamy, wonderful day off anyone could ever. um Can you be quieter or move room is a text mic I just got from Charles.
00:01:03
Speaker
Move room? I've had to jump on a call? Question mark?
00:01:10
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Okay. I'll be quieter. You don't want to move room. i know, right? Goodness. I will be quieter. I'm sorry. I will be quieter.
00:01:26
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We... I'm already set up.
00:01:33
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Anyways, him here we are. so So yesterday. Okay, so my amazing day yesterday. So I...
00:01:44
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um Well, like, the pretense of this is that, like, my boss at the bridal store, her and her husband's labradoodle is, like, they found out he has bone cancer and he's, like, their baby.
00:02:00
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God. I know, it's really sad, and I love Ziggy, and Ziggy and I are best friends, and it's just, like, it's really heartbreaking. um They're taking him to an oncologist on Wednesday, but the cancer spread really fast, really quickly.
00:02:13
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Jesus. I am going to be at the bridal store like ah shit ton until we go to England. to sort of like help out and take as many appointments and like take as much off of Megan's plate as I possibly can.
00:02:28
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um And so I have today and yesterday off um and then I don't have any days off until England. And ah so I was like, you know what? I'm going to just like take advantage of this day.
00:02:45
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going to be lazy. I'm going to have the best day ever. So i you know lounged about in my pajamas, watched the TV, went to the gym. um Charlie did the grocery shopping. I didn't have to do the grocery shopping.
00:02:58
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Charlie did. With a car. With the car by himself because he is a new licensed driver. Pew, pew. Pew, pew, pew.
Health Talk and Mucinex Cough Drops
00:03:09
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um it's very exciting it's it's a complete game changer katie um and then i came back and ah took a shower and then charlie was like do you want to have a fire outside i was like oh my gosh yes i would love to have a fire so i had a little gin and tonic we had a little fire in our fire pit um hot outside No, it's like, it was like 70 degrees.
00:03:31
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Oh, nice. Yeah, it's like really nice. It's supposed to get blistering hot later in the week, but right now it's yeah same really nice. Yeah, same Yeah. So we had a little fire, read my book. We listened to some Lana Del Rey.
00:03:44
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was great. then we had some dinner. We started watching Parent Trap and then Charlie was like, I'm going to drive us to get some ice cream. So we drove. We got some ice cream at Carval. We came back.
00:03:56
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we ate our carvel we finished um the parent trap and then i went to bed early it was like such a lovely dream of a day that's nice yeah it was really nice i got sick at work on saturday and went home early no oh I don't know. And it's mostly gone. I like I have found these amazing cough drops and like shout out to Miranda at work who gave me these. um Time for an unsolicited ad.
00:04:28
Speaker
Yeah. um Unsolicited ads with go get your girl. um These are the Mucinex cough like drops. OK, so they're not like regular cough drops. So like regular cough drops aren't cough syrup.
00:04:41
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These are cough syrup. So like what you're supposed to do is you take one when it's done, you take another one immediately and then you have to wait four hours before you can take another one.
00:04:51
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But it's, it's, it's dextro. It's the stuff that's in coughs, like the good so cough syrup stuff. Oh shit. Yeah. Um, my god and they work so well. And I have like, I almost never get sick without some kind of like nose situation.
00:05:06
Speaker
Um, I got a lot of, I got lot sinus involvement usually. But this is like just a cough. And I had a slight fever, but my only throat doesn't hurt. It's not all red, like strep throat or anything. And like, oh it's so weird just a cough. Like it's a deep, like lung cough, like a COVID cough. So I took a COVID test, but it's negative.
00:05:26
Speaker
And then um I had a very small fever and yes yeah yesterday. And then since kind of last night, I've been pretty much okay. Like I i will cough if I don't take the cough drops, but like, yeah hey kind of over i was i yeah so I took off yesterday and then I'm actually off today. So I've had two and a half days off, which is pretty nice.
00:05:46
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ham Relax. Let your body do all the work. Let your body heal
'Go Get Your Girl' Podcast Introduction
00:05:53
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itself. Yeah, it keeps the score and I'm losing.
00:05:58
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I feel that for sure. Yeah. Boy, oh boy. um But yeah, ah here we are. Coughs famously not featured in today's film.
00:06:11
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No, not really. Not really. um ah i was going to say something about how your water spill might be involved because pranks, but it wasn't a prank. It was an accident.
00:06:21
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oh Yeah. Yeah. We did a late recording because I spilled my glass of water all over the dining room table and all over everything. Just so much paper completely soaked in water. Yeah. Oh.
00:06:35
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So that's fun. Yeah. okay Yeah.
Deep Dive into 'Parent Trap' Films
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hooray anyways this is go get your girl this is the podcast where emma and katie both go to summer camp and you know they're just living their best lives being themselves and they run into each other while fencing and realize um my god we look exactly alike oh my god is your mom my mom is my dad your dad this is so weird it's crazy.
00:07:05
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Let's get our parents back together because this arrangement is insane. And so then we, we proceed to try and get our parents back together, but then, oh, wrench in the plan.
00:07:17
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Dad's engaged to a 26 year old publicist from San Francisco and things are, she's, she hates us. She, but to be fair, we're kind of the worst to her.
00:07:30
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um She deserves it. this is the most like This is the most appropriate like ah movie we've ever done for you to do this with. because I know, it really is. Because there's two people. yeah There's two protagonists.
00:07:44
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um Yeah, that's right, guys. I'm Emma. And I'm Katie. And today we are talking, of course, about the 1998 masterpiece. I did not realize it was that old.
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1998 masterpiece. Nancy Meyers' masterpiece, The Parent Trap. Written Nancy Meyers, her husband at the time, Charles Shire, and some guy named David Swift.
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Cool. um Nancy Meyers and Charles Shire were a married couple that made a bunch of movies that you've probably seen, like The Father of the Bride and The Father of the Bride Part 2. Yep.
00:08:22
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Private Benjamin, um a bunch of stuff. Oh! And then... so they wrote them together and he directed them and this was her directorial debut and a year after this they got divorced and then she went on to make a bunch of movies by herself which were great great because she is yes of course name in rom-com cinema nancy myers of course um we've the only nancy myers movie we've done so far is the holiday really yeah what other movies did she do um Something's Gotta Give. Yeah. um see um
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It's Complicated. um and there's another one. but yeah. stuff like that yeah rich people in their kitchens or what her movies are about um Hallie not Hallie my Hallie Myers is her daughter Hallie Myers Shire who yes um one of the girls in this is named after so they have two daughters Hallie and Annie and so she named the the children in this movie after her own daughters Hallie their their own daughters Hallie and Annie both of them wrote this movie together oh I didn't know that and both of them have little uh cameos in them too
00:09:35
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Do they really? Where are they? So I read um Hallie is someone named Amanda, who was one of the camp friends. Yeah. And Annie is is a towel girl at the hotel. I think she was like 17 or so when this movie came out. so You know what?
00:09:51
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I think I know which one she is.
Hayley Mills' Acting Career
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There was one specific towel girl
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This was such like an actor moment where i was just like, that poor girl had auditioned with a hundred other girls for these two lines. um Where it's after um Dennis Quaid walks into the pool when he sees yeah Elizabeth James and um he hits his head and Elizabeth James goes, do you have a first aid kit?
00:10:22
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And she goes, absolutely. then she goes back and she goes, here you go. That's her. Oh man. um She's the daughter of the filmmaker. She didn't have to audition for that. Yeah, she didn't. She was given that. Good job.
00:10:33
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yeah Good job. Nepotism. Yeah, you'll notice at the end of this movie it says for Hallie. um that is Not for Annie? Well, that is because Private Benjamin, um which is a movie from like a long time ago, i guess when she was a baby, is for Annie at the end of that. that's so sweet.
00:10:52
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See, that actually corrects something in my brain because I thought that it was for Hallie because, but actually that doesn't make sense because it's Hayley Mills. Oh, see, I just thought Hayley Mills spelled her name different and I thought it was for Hayley.
00:11:09
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um no hayley mills calls her h-a-y yeah um speaking of hayley mills should we talk about our experience our our familiarity with the original movie i'm guessing that you may have had some experience with it like i did A little bit.
00:11:26
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Of course we did. um My mom introduced me to Hayley Mills in one summer, and I spent an entire summer watching all the Hayley Mills movies and watched Parent Trap. I watched the one where she's Greece.
00:11:42
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um I don't remember what that one was called, but that one is so vivid. She did Pollyanna. Pollyanna. I don't remember the Grease one. don't know what that is. The Grease is like when she's older. She's like on the cusp of like aging out of her type.
00:11:57
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And there's like, I remember it because she like goes swimming. yeah. Is that Tiger Bay? Yeah. I think it's Tiger Bay. Yeah. yeah maybe oh get trouble with that nano cast Yeah. That darn cat. The OG, that darn cat.
00:12:11
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I love the remake of that darn cat as well. Um, it's not Tiger Bay. She was even younger in that. Oh, okay. Which one was Okay.
Nostalgia: Disney Channel Classics
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Let's see. to do Tiger Bay is her first film.
00:12:25
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um parent is pollyanna is 1960 parent trap is 61 she oh she was in whistle down the wind um she was in whistle down the wind the musical mr forbush and the penguin summer magic i remember that one um oh my god she's in a ton of movies yeah she's in so many movies she like works like crazy her teens into her 20s and then like yeah in search of the castaways summer magic was it now of course i watched the parent trap 2 which came out on the disney channel in what says 1986 but i and i couldn't have seen it then so um it must have been just in heavy rotation on the disney channel in the 90s what um have you not seen the parent trap 2
00:13:17
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Oh, I've never seen The Parent Trap 2. Oh my god, yeah, it's her and Tom Skerritt. um Tom Skerritt. i From, yeah, 1986. It is about um they, two best friends, plot to get their single parents together to stop one of them from moving to New York City.
00:13:39
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So I'm not sure which of the two twins is involved in the in the rom-com, but the other one is there too, and And it was a Disney Channel original movie from 1986. Huh.
00:13:50
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So she's an adult, obviously. Yeah, I was going to say, she's she's an adult in that then. Yeah, and it's the it's one of her, it's her daughter and then her daughter's friend are trying to do it. um And then, of course, there's The pepperp the Parent Trap 3 from 1989 with Barry Bostwick.
00:14:07
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What? Yeah, that was another Disney Channel original movie. I remember all of these. I do not remember two and three. i remember the OG. oh and I found the, I found the, the Greece one. So it's, it was called a movie called the moon spinners.
00:14:22
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um And that was my favorite one that she was in. And it takes place. um It's a young English woman named Nikki Ferris and her aunt Frances, a folk musicologist traveled to the village of Luanda on the Island of Crete.
00:14:35
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um and they and it's like a mystery romance mystery um and it was done by buena vista and walt disney but it's like she's like kind of a teen it's like a little bit darker but it's like yeah you know it's like what year um 1964 okay so four years after the first she would have been like 19 yeah yeah 18 or sorry sorry 16 16 sorry sixteen sixteen um yeah it's great it was my favorite one nope i can't do math oh she would have been 18 18 18 yeah the moon spinners she's 79 right now um she shows up in m night sharmelon's movie trap which i don't know if you've seen it but does she really she's the f she's the head of the fbi squad trying to catch him in that movie
00:15:29
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And Caitlin and I were both like, why is Hayley Mills in this movie? Why is 80 year old Hayley Mills? And then weeks later, it occurred to me because it's a parent trap.
00:15:40
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Like that movie is about a parent trap. And so he cast Hayley Mills, which is proof that M. Night Shyamalan knows that that movie is campy and silly. And he's in on the joke.
00:15:55
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um Trap is so fun. You should totally watch it. It's absurd. Okay. is that Is that the one that I have to watch all the other ones watch it? Oh, God, no. No, no. This is the one with Josh Hartnett.
00:16:07
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Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's been on my list. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, at the concert, and he's a serial killer. da Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been my list, but, like, every time I go to watch it, I'm just like, I don't know.
00:16:20
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Like, the last time I was going to watch it, I was between that and um um this, like, Something Lake, and I ended up watching the Something Lake movie.
00:16:31
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Something Lake is not a very good name for a movie. Yeah. It's not something like, it's like, I can't remember the name of the lake is what it is. Is it Caddo Lake? It's Caddo Lake. Caddo Lake. watched Caddo Lake, which was fun and dumb. i haven't seen it.
00:16:44
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Yeah, it was okay. I mean, kept me entertained. um But yeah, ah I think I'll watch Trap this weekend. Yeah. Yeah. It's got Hayley Mills in it.
00:16:55
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Yeah, we love Hayley Mills. yeah i i guess like they were all in on hayley mills reprise because look they did another one in the in the 80s there was a parent trap hawaiian honeymoon or something like they the disney channel needed content you see yes um so they were making a bunch of like garbage stuff um the 80s was a sad time for the disney channel oh yeah yeah yeah i think it had just launched maybe i don't remember um But I had the Disney Channel for exactly one year when we lived in North Carolina and I was in second grade. So it would have been like the mid 90s.
00:17:29
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Yeah. um And I watched all of the shit constantly because that was the first time I had a TV in my room. Yeah. Oh, nice.
Camp Stories and Cultural Experiences
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um And um yeah, there was also this movie about Alan Thicke builds a robot son and they made like four or five of those movies.
00:17:48
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um I mean it's not surprising Yeah it's really not surprising You think about because like I didn't get the Disney Channel Until like the early 2000s When we lived in Connecticut and I was like 10, 11, 12 And so All of my memory with this Disney Channel Is just like Y2K Disney Channel so it's like You know Halloween Town, Halloween Town 2 Halloween Town 3 Halloween Town 3 The oh um ah the um Yeah, because it was a premium channel. it was like It was like HBO or something, and you had to pay for it separately. And like I don't know why we had it in North Carolina. That one year we lived in Greenville, North Carolina, for whatever reason.
00:18:31
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um Didn't have it before or since. I guess. Because you were in North Carolina and you were fancy. um Apparently. But um yeah, so I was obsessed with Parent Trap.
00:18:43
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yeah And I read the book. Have you read the book? I didn't even know it was based on a book. lisa and lottie which is a german book that here i got a picture of it because like i think showing you a picture of it is gonna like show you exactly what we're talking about here yeah but like not necessarily that you remember this book but you remember this like this like publisher you know what mean i can't see who the publisher is oh it's um avon camelot but there's i had a million books that were like that exact like graphic design oh yeah um it is very different it is german first of all do they kill their parents they do not kill their parents
00:19:33
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But it's like they get their... like Basically, theyre the original plan works in in this movie. like There's no complications. like they When they meet each other, they're like, oh, we love each other. And then that's the end of the book. Yeah.
00:19:47
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So as for kids, it's like 10 pages long. And it's from like the 40s, I think, or something. I don't remember. yeah um But in that... This arrangement has been canon for years. Yeah.
00:20:01
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Yeah, but in that, and i and again, it's been a while since I've seen the original Hayley Mills Parent Trap, and I believe in that one as well. One of them is not rich, right? Yeah, one of them is not rich.
00:20:13
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Yeah. And in this movie, it's Nancy Meyers. So she's like, I can't write about somebody who's not rich. No, she can't write about poor people. Everybody's rich. Everyone's fucking loaded. Everyone is so loaded.
Nancy Meyers' Film Themes
00:20:24
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My first note on this movie is that boat ride the on the QE2 where we get that little prologue of how they get married.
00:20:36
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With the hand models? With the hand models. And that entire, like, sequence is what I thought, I thought it was the epitome of class for years and years and years.
00:20:48
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I thought that that was the classiest fucking thing I could ever hope to accomplish was to get married on a boat and be, you know, served wine at a table and dance around looking beautiful in a gorgeous 90s dress, even though it's supposed to be 86, and have people take my picture with old-timey cameras.
00:21:11
Speaker
ah Yeah, the QE2, which, do they still do that? I mean, that's like, it's an ocean liner. Oh, no. yeah It's not a cruise ship. like It's not a cruise ship. It's an ocean liner.
00:21:22
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Because a cruise ship, it would make sense, right? But like you know this is like Titanic vibes. Yeah, it's for rich people. It's so classy.
00:21:33
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Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you need to go to London, but you they can wait for, like yeah six days for you to take a boat across the Atlantic. And people who are afraid to fly. That's what it's for. Yeah. yeah I know that they do do ocean liners um they um because I've seen...
00:21:50
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There was, well, there was a period of time where I was really pushing Charlie to move back to the UK. And, um, and, and, um, I was like, well, obviously we can't take our cats on,
00:22:06
Speaker
a seven eight hour long flight to England um I was like I don't want to be without my babies or have to deal with them for that long uh on a on a plane and so I started looking at and I was like also like we have so much stuff I was like well what if we what if we took a boat can you take a boat you can you can totally take a boat from new york to london or southampton or wherever but like you can charter well not charter but like it's it's an ocean liner so it's like kind of like a cruise but it's not a cruise um and you get a cabin and yeah live your best life
00:22:46
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The QE2, a British ocean liner and later a cruise ship, built for the Cunard line, operated from 1969 to 2008 primarily as a transatlantic liner and then later as a cruise ship. Since 2018, the QE2 has been converted into a floating hotel in Dubai. Of course it has. Of course it has.
00:23:03
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So we can all go and have a parent trap weekend and stay on said boat. um Yeah, I'm sure there is a um succeeded by the Queen Mary to 2004.
00:23:20
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ah Yes, she is the flagship of the Cunard line and still is in service between Southampton and New York City. Yeah. In addition to an annual world voyage. Can you imagine what the tickets to that are?
00:23:31
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Annual world voyage. Like, is this like, does this look nice or does this look like you're going to be at a holiday inn for like Oh, no, no, no. I mean, I think it's like really, I think it's, it's very nice. I think like- remember looking at prices and being like, Jesus, this is so expensive.
00:23:48
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Yeah, yeah. Um, too wide to use the Panama Canal. Um, yeah. <unk> Oh yeah, this is absurd. I'm looking at photos here. like it is just like ah It's like a really nice cruise ship, except you know not quite as it's not as big as a cruise ship because it's like actually got to go across the ocean.
00:24:07
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Yeah, it's actually got to go across across the ocean. And it goes from point A to point B. It doesn't go ABA. Right, correct, yes. Yeah. So you got to buy a round trip if ah you want to go back to your starting location. I guess so, yeah. Yeah.
00:24:24
Speaker
So yeah, then that's about right. I mean, I thought we were going to get into the movie for quickly, but now it's been 24 minutes and we're at the first five seconds of the screen time. I mean, but it's such a memorable beginning, like the entire time, like that old timey, um, the L is far away. You look. And then just like all of the shots, none of them being Dennis Quaid or Natasha Richardson, um,
00:24:48
Speaker
The woman has the most beautiful hands I've ever seen. i don't know who she is. The most beautiful hands. It always reminded me of my mom's hands on her wedding day because she had a very similar manicure. ah yeah. And I was like, gorgeous.
00:24:59
Speaker
Amazing. um Everyone just looks like they are dripping with money. and And it's just the epitome of class. And they see like fireworks and all of this. And it's just like, wow.
00:25:11
Speaker
Wowza, wowza. What a life it must be to be an adult. Wowza. This movie also made me believe that when you grew up, you didn't have to worry about money.
00:25:22
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Well, they don't. People in Nancy Meyers' movies don't have to worry about money because she only makes movies about super rich people and their problems. Right. um And their problems are minor. ah ah
Moral Implications in 'Parent Trap'
00:25:38
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mean... And so all of this is predicated on an extremely cruel... um kind of solution these people came up to came up with which I don't know I mean it I guess if they both agree to it a court can't stop them but it seems pretty like horrible intense and insane I like almost cried at the end because i don't think that the gravity oh I cried twice Yeah.
00:26:04
Speaker
Well, the gravity of, like, what this arrangement was did not really actually hit me until this watch of this movie. And I've seen this movie hundreds of times. Thousands of times, probably. i This was a staple in my household because I also went to girls camp. It reminded me a lot of camp.
00:26:20
Speaker
You went to all girls camp. I went to all girls camp. It was, like, scary, scarily very similar to their camp. So, like, anytime I watch it, I'm like, oh, this reminds me of Red Pine Camp for girls.
00:26:32
Speaker
Aww. I went to a co-ed camp. Oh, yeah, no. i I went to an all-girls camp where we had to wear white on Sundays. Oh, was it a religious all-girls camp for rich people? For rich kids?
00:26:45
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It wasn't that religious. if You could go to mass if you wanted to. They only had Catholic mass on Sundays. And you could go if you wanted to. Not that many people went. I went, like, once because I thought it would make my parents proud.
00:26:58
Speaker
And I was like, never again. And was, like... it it was like ah Also kind of an etiquette camp. um You were taught proper table manners and you had to pass to the right always.
00:27:14
Speaker
You couldn't pass to the left. so like Oh my God. It was like a whole thing. So yes, it was a really it was ah a religious bougie all girls camp for rich kids. But it wasn't it wasn't that religious in that like they didn't like push the religion. we were just off on Sundays and had to wear white.
00:27:30
Speaker
Nobody talked about Jesus. Okay. Okay. Yeah. um Sounds terrible. I went to a co-ed environmental science camp, which was like, oh I mean, I guess all camps are environmental science camps. It's just like when I tell people about it, it seems odd.
00:27:48
Speaker
But like, it was the only camp around. So everybody went there. It wasn't like a weird niche little camp. It was just like, it was the camp where you went. Yeah. In my hometown.
00:27:58
Speaker
um But like we went caving and like we went cave diving. We went like. oh um We did like a lot of stuff with animals, um like animal rehabilitation, like learn how to like set up birds broken wing and like dissected owl pellets and stuff like that. like You know what I did a camp?
00:28:18
Speaker
What? Cocaine? Cocaine? do cocaine. didn't do any of that.
00:28:29
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I horseback riding and tennis and swimming and sailing and arts and crafts. Definitely no sailing or horseback riding. You could also do wind sailing, um which you had to be a certain level of swim swimmer to do. and And I just like could not nail the butterfly that they would not let me pass.
00:28:54
Speaker
They make each you do the butterfly. They made me do the butterfly. I got tested. Why? That's so stupid. so stupid. were in a light if like you fall out of a boat, you're not going to do the butterfly to save yourself.
00:29:07
Speaker
That was the rules. That was the rules. and then there was also capture the flag once a year. And then there was... Okay, capture the flag is the best, yeah. Absolutely the fucking best.
00:29:18
Speaker
But um at my camp, every single cabin was named after a different type of tree. And when you became like a teenager, you made it into the musketeer cabins. So there was musk one, musk two, and musk three.
00:29:30
Speaker
And the musk cabins, once you were in them, you had to go through muskawama, which was a um in appropriative of some uh some a native american um probably stuff yeah it was most camps did that yeah but it was like an initiation into like a secret society because you were in a musk cabin so like you were part of the sisterhood and so like there was a bunch of you got like hazed and like you had to um yeah it was the whole thing how long was your camp
00:30:03
Speaker
You could go for two, four, six, or eight weeks. I went for four weeks. Yeah. I would have loved to have gone to camp for eight weeks. No, this camp, my camp was two weeks.
00:30:14
Speaker
um Oh, nice. And I think that's, I think you could go for less than that, but I certainly don't think you could go for longer. um There's no way my my parents would have let me go to camp for that long. um my My parents were like, get out of here.
00:30:27
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Yeah. um i Yeah, I loved, I loved camp. um It was probably expensive, too. um Yeah. But, ah yeah, I don't remember the cabin names or or anything. I remember all of my cabins.
00:30:40
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Well, you were, like, you went every year, and you went for, like, into your teens, probably. Yeah. um I went twice in fourth grade and fifth grade, so it was a little, yeah. a little different.
00:30:52
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Yeah. No, no, no, no. It was fifth grade and sixth grade, actually.
00:30:56
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I went when I was 10, 11, 12, 13. can And I think the last year i went, I was 14. Yeah. that's that's more That's normal. Yeah. um That camp, Cedar Creek, the camp I went to is not not around anymore. and I'm not sure when they went out of business, but I noticed a while ago that they're not around anymore.
00:31:17
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That's sad. Red Pine is definitely still around, and I follow them i on Instagram. Of course you do. Camp kids. My god. Um...
00:31:30
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I'm at some of my, like, I mean, I'm really sad because, like, my best friend in middle school, she and I, because she and I were the weirdos. um we We were so, so close, and I'm sad that we're not in touch anymore.
00:31:43
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um But, like, she lived in New Jersey, and um I eventually lived in Connecticut, and, like, we would fly to the Midwest to go to this camp in upstate Wisconsin. And ah it was just, it was a wild and fun time.
00:32:00
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You went to a camp in Wisconsin when you lived in Connecticut? Yeah, because I had already been there once and it was my camp. Oh, you went there when you lived in Illinois? Yeah, yeah.
00:32:12
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And then you continued. Okay, okay. And then I continued all the way through the last year I was in Houston. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. um Yeah. Yeah, I don't have that many memories or anything ah um from it. i remember going there and remember thinking it was great, but never ran into any long lost sisters, unfortunately. Yeah, I never did either, but I kept hoping I would.
00:32:35
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Unlike Hallie Parker this movie. And Elizabeth and Annie James. And Annie James, who we've got to get to the movie. Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan and Lohan in this movie yeah who is incredible i multiple times forget that it's one person playing both of these parts like she's so good at little subtle differences between the two of them and everything like it's it's no wonder like they they this movie was such a hit like and this is her first movie this was what made her first movie it's introducing 11 years old
00:33:15
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Yeah. hu It's absolutely insane. um There's a, ah she, Lindsay Lohan at one point in the 2010s did a reality show. And I remember watching a clip of it and it was her grandma talking to her and her grandma being like, you should have gotten an Oscar nomination for pirate trap.
00:33:33
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And like, honestly, true. Was her mother, british grandmother British and in her nineties? Her grandma was like in her nineties, but she wasn't British. Okay. Okay. I about to say, it sounded like your impression of Charles, almost.
00:33:47
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I mean, they're all the same.
00:33:51
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Grandparents and your husband? And my husband. Yeah.
00:33:57
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So, yes, they are both at this camp. i um And they meet. Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's like the the first thing. There's a little boy. it can't there's There's a little boy. All girls can't.
00:34:11
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Who is actually this is the first of Emma's fun facts. Emma's fun facts. He is played by Lindsay Lohan's actual little brother. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. It's really cute. And um by the end of the camp, I love the fact that he's just like, he makes best friends with all the girls.
00:34:28
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Yes. Yeah. the they They let him stay there. um It's very good. whole other movie going on with that kid at camp. Right. I'd love to see that spinoff. um Yeah. I mean, I mean, this girl, like this is a camp in Maine.
00:34:40
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So they went there from California and London to go to this camp in Maine for some reason. So it must be a good camp. I mean, when there's a good camp, you'll fly cross country for it.
00:34:52
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If you got the money for it. And they do. um And they do. Because the first time that we see Annie James, she is being dropped off by her butler.
00:35:04
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Not her mom. Her butler.
Twin Switcheroo and Comedy
00:35:07
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There's a running running theme in this. These parents do not care about these children. Really very much at all. no They just hire people.
00:35:17
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so take care of their children. both of them are just missing a daughter their entire life and don't seem to care that much. Exactly why I got so emotional. Because, like, the first time that Elizabeth sees and realizes that Hallie or Annie is Hallie, like, the emotion that she must have felt of, like, ah the last time I held my daughter was when she was a baby and I have not seen her for 11 years.
00:35:42
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This person... She plays that for exactly that one scene. And after that, it seems like she doesn't give a shit at all. Like... Nancy Myers was probably like, reel it in, Natasha. We gotta keep this up and light. We gotta keep this light and fluffy.
00:35:58
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um We should say Natasha Richardson, R.I.P. i And Dennis Quaid, i piece of shit. ah Jack Quaid's dad. R.I.P.
00:36:11
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being a decent person. I don't know. Um... He gave us Jack Quaid. ah Yeah. Yeah. and and then you've got And then we've got Lisa Ann Walter as Chessie.
00:36:24
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Yeah. Chessie. Lesbian icon. Lesbian icon. And Simon Coons as ah Martin. and Elaine Hendricks as Meredith Blake. That's pretty much all the characters we're dealing with here.
00:36:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, buddy. um And also, i should point out that Halle in this movie is a huge lesbian. ah Yeah, 100%. Halle and her entire circle of friends at that camp all grown up to be in the LGBTQIA plus community.
00:36:57
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Happy Pride.
00:37:00
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I'm pretty sure it's July by now, but ah yes. The first thing she said, like she meets this friend by, this girl walks by, she goes, that's my kind of woman. Yeah, she goes, that's my kind of woman. It's Tie-Dye Girl. And Tie-Dye Girl is a lesbian icon. She is a lesbian icon. She gets Hallie's duffel out with no problem. She goes, oh, that? No problem.
00:37:23
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Bam. So she's good with her hands. She gives her a piggyback ride later. Yeah, they're in love. She calls her babe. Yeah, they're in love. They're in love. um There's also like, I also noticed that her in when they're in the um in the solitary cabin, she's got like a collage and Leonardo DiCaprio is there, but everybody else is like a beautiful woman. That is her bulletin board collage.
00:37:52
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good for Hallie you know I'd love to see Hallie and Annie all grown up see what they're doing you know well maybe a freakier Friday is a success they'll make yeah parent trap trap to trapped again trapped again yeah
00:38:08
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um you know but they can't because Natasha Richardson is dead well they don't have to include the parents it could just be about ah they're the parents now Yeah, Annie and Hallie. And then they can just talk about their parents. They can just, like, have, like, a phone call where we don't see the other person.
00:38:23
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Yeah, so Annie is, like, gonna marry the wrong man. And Hallie and her, you know... Girlfriend. Girlfriend or wife um have twins. And those twins have to, like, help the... Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:38:39
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Aunt Annie. And Chessie will show up. So will Martin. But the parents, because they don't give a fuck, won't be there. they won't They won't come to their own daughter's wedding because it's the wrong one.
00:38:51
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And then the they'll run into Elizabeth Blake like at, ah ah like I don't know, Bergdorf's. Meredith Blake. I'm sorry, Meredith Blake. um At like Bergdorf's or something because they all live in New York City.
00:39:05
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um Of course. We've already written this movie. That's true, yeah. And all we need is like $100 million dollars to make it. Let's do it. Which is crazy. This movie cost $15 million. dollars And it looks like a lot more than that.
00:39:17
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I mean, I know it was the but still. It looks so timeless. and Like, it doesn't look like a 90s movie. With the exception of, like, the soundtrack at times. And, like, some of the fashion.
00:39:28
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But, like, I constantly forgot that it was the 90s. But it's also, like, I've grown up with this movie. It's a part of my DNA. I just, like, don't recognize it. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what it was. It's like of.
00:39:39
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technology in this movie outside of like a cordless phone at one point exactly um so yes they each have um so yeah they meet each other they realize that hey we look exactly like they start they pull some pranks on one another for a bit they get in trouble they get sent to the solitary cabin where they realize that they're sisters because their parents have done an incredibly cruel um trick on them where don't think it's a trick hey It's a trick on themselves.
00:40:09
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um Where they they divorced and each took one twin yeah opposite sides of the world yeah and never told them about- were twin Never told them they were a twin. Never told them they had a sister. Never told them anything about their mother's or father's life.
00:40:30
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Yeah. Which is like, we got we have to have more backstory on this. Like, right why on earth would you do that to anyone? like- Like it's child abuse.
00:40:42
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Yeah. There are certain times when I try to like rationale it, like they're talking about because she's in London and he's in Napa. And so, um, they're like trying to talk about how they'll arrange it because now that the girls have met each other.
00:40:53
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And, um, they're like, so you'll take, so I'll take the girls for half the year and then you'll take them for the other half. And then Chessie's like, no, they can't go to two different schools. And then,
00:41:04
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Nobody asked you, Chessie. I mean, she's the voice of reason there. And then ah Elizabeth is like, well, then I'll take both girls. Right? I'll take the girls for all of the year, and then you take them for the next year.
00:41:16
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And Chessie's like, girl, what are you talking about? And it's just like, that is so complicated. Like, I guess the best situation is just give one twin twin to each parent. And so I was talking to Charlie about this and he was like, no why? And I was like, because they both want to be parents. And he was like, well, then they have to make some sort of sacrifice and work together.
00:41:36
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Such deeply selfish people. i her their parents The parents in this movie suck so bad. They are so self-involved. I mean, like the mother doesn't even go and pick up her daughter from the airport.
00:41:49
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They have the butler do it. have the butler do it they have the butler do everything like what these people are horrible um and like there's no and it doesn't seem like there's like animosity either it's like oh it just didn't work out and like there For them to to to hate this other person so much that like they they prevent their child from knowing they exist, there has to be some kind of like wound there that we don't get, but don't that doesn't exist in this movie.
00:42:22
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It's sort of hinted at a few times where um they're like talking about it and um Nick goes to, ah mentions that Elizabeth threw a phone at his head.
00:42:36
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It's a hairdryer. Oh, sorry, a hairdryer. going to jail for that. Yep. and um And then she said that, she says, well, you know, I left and you didn't come after me.
00:42:49
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And it's just like, well, then that was it. And then he never saw his daughter again. and doesn't seem doesn't seem that worried about it. Like, i can never get over that. And that's just like, yeah so in the book, it's like post-Nazi Germany.
00:43:13
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And that is kind of the only way that this could make sense in real life. if You know what i mean? play yeah World War II... is the thing that could make this a reasonable um situation. And only that, yeah really. like Because both parents had to escape.
00:43:33
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and ah or Or like amnesia. Like if both the parents had amnesia somehow. or or Or both parents were dead and they were adopted, but they were adopted separately.
00:43:47
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Yeah, that's what you would do now. Yes. That's what you would do now, is you would make it to where they were adopted, but they couldn't go as a pair. Yes. And they just never found out.
00:43:58
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Which is weird, but more plausible than this nonsense. Yes, more plausible than this nonsense. Which I should say, like, I love this movie. Like, i I saw this movie when I was a kid. Like, I've seen this movie a million times. It's delightful. It's like, it's a four-star movie. But like, at the heart of it is like, if you start thinking about anything, and if you start thinking about anything too long, you're like, what the fuck is happening?
00:44:20
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Right? Right? It's just like, oh, God. and then And then their solution is to continue with said arrangement, except now they get to switch at holidays.
00:44:34
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They got it. Well, they're going to... Oh, they're going to visit each other at holidays. Well, well we we'll get to that. um So they meet and decide they're going to trap their parents, right? Yes. It's going to be a parent trap situation, but they can't call it... It's a parent trap!
00:44:48
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Any other movie, they would call it a parent trap because this yeah is one of the like best known movies in American culture. ah um Everybody knows what a parent trap is.
00:44:59
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Yep, everybody knows. Every sitcom... gotta trick divorced parents into falling back in love. Every sitcom has done like ah an episode with like a parent trap situation. um Yep.
00:45:10
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Yep. Yep. It's one of the reasons Charlie was excited to watch this movie. And i I did. I texted you um what he said. And he was just like, I'm so excited to finally watch parent trap so that i I can finally get the episode of new girl.
00:45:23
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I was shocked. He'd never seen the parent. I don't understand how you grow up and not see the parent trap. I don't know. I don't, he hasn't seen so many movies. It's basically like watching every time I watch like a classic movie with this man, it is like as if I had married like an alien from outer space and outer space.
00:45:42
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And like, he doesn't know what human culture is. What did he do when he was a kid? Like he didn't watch movies when he was a kid. He watched movies, just weird ones. a Like basketball.
00:45:55
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like basketball i like i don't know i'm like i have no idea he watched i don't even know if he watched that much tv actually he did a lot of cricket gross so um they decide that they're gonna switch which is classic um and annie annie goes to california to meet her dad for the first time it's quade and hallie goes to london um and like
00:46:26
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Learns how to do a British accent really quickly. they They learn to do... Also, it should be said, so they have to change their appearance because all because of Hallie. not Nothing that Annie did. Because Hallie has short hair and Hallie has pierced ears.
00:46:39
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um This movie taught me to pierce my own ears. Did you ever do the parent trap method? did yeah Well, yes, I did. But you pierced your own ears? Yeah. Oh, wow. No, i've know i pierced a friend's ear. Yeah.
00:46:53
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I didn't do my main ones. My main ones I had professionally done. But in high school, I was angsty and I wanted more holes in my ears. Ah, I see. I did my second and ones and my third ones and then my cartilage.
00:47:04
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um And I did it. like ah You pierced your own cartilage? Yeah. It's closed up now. was about to say, that's like crazy danger. I didn't realize it as I was doing it, how dangerous it was, but it worked out well. Yeah.
00:47:18
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And I did it i did it parent trap style. I remember With the apple. up With the ice the apple. Yeah. I took some ice, numbed it up, and then got an works. Yeah.
00:47:30
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Call it a day. Yeah, I pierced a friend's ear and chose... It's a disaster. Just blood everywhere. I'm sure like that little girl's ears would have gotten so infected. so infected.
00:47:48
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So infected. Like I had like rubbing alcohol and like Neosporin and like other things that children did not have. even then, like when you get to yours pierced, you got to clean them with like a Q-tip and like that stuff for like weeks after afterward. like I think I just used rubbing alcohol.
00:48:05
Speaker
yeah I mean, i don't work, I guess. yeah um so got my anyway Still got my ears. Yeah. She pierces her ears. ah Classic comedy. There's so much like just fun kid stuff in this movie. yeah like When they're teaching each other showing each other the maps of their houses telling each other about like how you're going to... That's such like perfect 90s kid fun.
00:48:28
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yeah like yeah It's so fun to see shit like that in movies. Yeah. Yeah. they she but How did Annie get their their bunk beds on the roof? Not explained. I asked that question too. um But you know, we're not gonna wallow on that.
00:48:43
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yeah Hallie uses so mit much camp food supplies to prank their cabin. Like, wastes gallons of chocolate sauce and honey island yeah oh man oh man charlie thought that they were getting kicked out whenever they got caught um for the pranks and he goes wait what they're getting kicked out because um marva should have honestly yeah goes pack your bags and then i was like no no no it's the isolation cabin the isolation cabin which is also child abuse
00:49:14
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um Like that's a long way for those kids to be alone. And I'm pretty sure the ah ah camp is liable for their safety.
00:49:24
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It's the 90s. Clearly. um So yeah. And they become best friends. And then they each go to the other's home. And like yeah pretty pretty flawlessly takes their space.
00:49:37
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Their parents never notice. Because why would they? They don't know nothing about them. They know nothing about their children. Jesse, Hallie's cook, notices that Annie is a little too proper.
00:49:52
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And their grandfather notices that and that Hallie is is is there and and eventually she she gives up. they both They both admit it yeah um to those characters.
00:50:04
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Annie doesn't do as good of a job as Hallie does at pretending to be the other one because she she just keeps using her own lingo like a horrid habit and lovely girl.
00:50:18
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um And then at one point to when she finds out that- Yeah. And then at one point, oh, and then the, she's got a dog, Sammy, who immediately smells that it's not Hallie.
00:50:29
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And, um, and she like, doesn't care. She's like, oh, I'm gonna smell a camp. Oh, well, where any other child, it would, you know, if your dog, you came home and your dog all of a sudden hated you, you would be horrified and heartbroken.
00:50:43
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But, and then she also starts screaming in French um when she finds out that her dad's being engaged. Yeah. So she does a bad job.
00:50:57
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She doesn't, she doesn't do a great job. Yeah. um But it's, it's, it's hard. Like the American, the British accent, American accent thing, it's like a lot of vocabulary is different. Like it would be very hard to do that in real life. Like I, as I think we've discussed on this, I've been watching a lot of Mythbusters.
00:51:12
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And the narrator, and i never I noticed this, but I never noticed it before. And I can't really seem to find anybody talking about it on the internet. But the narrator for Mythbusters is a British person doing an American accent.
00:51:28
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Oh. Because there's little things like that, like little little things that creep in. Because generally the American accent is fairly good. But he'll say things like, Adam and Jamie have been walking through this store for like- Nope.
00:51:42
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Or like um saying, um and when he came round to the, and i was like, nope. Yep. Nope. Nope. Nope. He's driving a motorbike. It's like, absolutely not.
00:51:56
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When he arrived at the car park. Yeah, it's very much that shit. Yeah. A lot of agains and beans. um And beans. Yeah.
00:52:09
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ah So yeah, i feel like especially your family would notice if you were doing a fake British ex. And I mean, they kind of like... move into it a little bit with Hallie as Annie in the scene where they're having dinner and they're having some wine and she goes, might I have a sip? And they go, oh, don't think you're going like it. And then all of a sudden she's a smallie. Yeah. Yeah. Cause her dad owns a vineyard.
00:52:33
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um We should say Dennis Quaid owns a vineyard yeah and Natasha um um Richardson. I was going to say, were you about to say Benningfield?
00:52:44
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i was going to say Henstridge. Oh.
00:52:49
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um natasha uh richardson
Reuniting Parents: Challenges and Emotions
00:52:53
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designs wedding gowns yep
00:52:58
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go i imagine you have a lot to say about the wedding gowns in this movie um i will say that a lot of what is popular in this movie that you see in the wedding gowns has become popular again uh because it's 1998 and that's where we're at And people bring it up all the time that they feel so, they forget the whole plot of, um, the parent trap.
00:53:19
Speaker
And they only remember highlights they go, oh I feel like I'm in the parent trap. And then but with the top hat, with the veil on top of it, which I'll make a joke of like, Oh yeah. yeah Top hat. And Charlie was so confused. He's like, well, wouldn't the veil still cover up the back of the dress?
00:53:32
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And i was like, no, hi. You give it a little height. It's fine. Just let it be. Just let them do their work. Just let them do their work. Um, but Are they talking about the dress that that Natasha Richardson wears at the end?
00:53:46
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No, no, no, no. um At the photo shoot. So that one, just without the top hat and veil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They're always talking about that one. And then um sometimes they'll go, I feel like Meredith Blake.
00:53:59
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So Meredith Blake. i go No, no, no, no. No, Meredith doesn't get married. No, she doesn't. she's She married never has a wedding dress on in this. And she's the villain of the piece. yeah Yes. No.
00:54:11
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No, no, no um But like people bring it up all the time. um But I will say, as someone who works in bridal, ah that when you are a wedding dress designer, especially when you are of the caliber to have your own storefront in London, in a very nice part of central London, you...
00:54:31
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you don't do anything but design the dresses um and then like some of the like logistics stuff like being at the photo shoot that that makes sense of like we just can't figure this out we want to make sure that like especially if she's like newer and she doesn't have people do that um but she will not make the wedding dresses um and it is that's just that's just what fashion is like i mean like exactly you're allowed to believe that maybe when you first start out dresses Yeah. i like Kate Spade made purses in her bedroom like at first, you know, but not a year later. She wasn't.
00:55:08
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no no, no. But like the way that when Meredith is talking to Elizabeth James at the bar and she's just like, your your store said that you would be you were out of the country and like you couldn't make my wedding. dress Like if it is something that she's already designed, you can buy that.
00:55:22
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Yeah, you can buy that. You just go to the store and you get your measurements taken and you purchase it. They have manufacturers that will be making that. You don't need the designer to make that dress. I mean, they're so rich that she probably is getting, you know, a um a custom a custom, a custom, but still the the person who designed it isn't making it herself.
00:55:41
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exactly exactly so that that bothered me um unless it was the fact of like she liked the dress she saw in vogue and wanted elizabeth james to design her wedding dress in which case she would need elizabeth james but yeah whatever it's hard to say because um the only person worse than the parents in this movie is um meredith meredith blake Meredith Blake.
00:56:05
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Which, um this is the next of Emma's Fun Facts, Emma's Fun Facts. um Did you know this movie features not just one, but two Meredith Blakes.
00:56:20
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What?
00:56:23
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ah This is a fun fact that I have known since this movie came out because I watched a behind-the-scenes on probably probably entertainment. entertainment tonight or something oh sure yeah uh the original evil girlfriend i don't know if her name was meredith blake in the original movie but the original yeah girlfriend the actress who played her plays meredith blake's mom vicky sure yeah i felt like yeah it was one of those things where it's like you know the camera it's like in a marvel movie
00:56:57
Speaker
where the camera is lingering on someone and you're like, I'm supposed to know who that is. You know what i mean? That's how I felt about that. thats Well, that is her. kind of surprised Hayley Mills wasn't in it. I know. I'm kind of surprised Hayley Mills wasn't as well.
00:57:10
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They did feature the song a little bit as, you know, one of them is walking to the elevator. They sing, let's get together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was also in the Entertainment Tonight thing that I saw where they were like, we had to feature from the original.
00:57:24
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Yeah. It's interesting because Hayley Mills is a lot older than Lindsay Lohan in The Parent Trap. Hayley Mills is like 16 in the original Parent Trap. And Lindsay Lohan was 11, which is how old the character is. yeah They had to make it more kid-friendly.
00:57:38
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Yeah. um I mean, I guess. The Parent Trap was pretty kid-friendly. Well, I mean, I feel like you would forgive a lot more when it's like an 11 year old versus a 16 year old. If a 16 year old is pulling the shit that they're pulling, like it's a little bit different. Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:54
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They know a little bit better. They do. the um Also, the question I had was like, listen, I'm glad that Lindsay Lohan did this and she's great in it, but why didn't they just cast twins? It would have been so much easier to make. Right?
00:58:06
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Right? right it's not like it's not like they cast an established actress that had name recognition and that's why they didn't cast twins like you're casting an unknown you may as well cast twins my god right maybe they just like couldn't find anyone with that same charisma maybe maybe i mean yeah she was right obviously but it's like what a pain in the ass this must have been to make in 1998 like it's not like they have modern like um army hammer technology where they can just like Put somebody's face on the other person. Yeah. Right.
00:58:38
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No, but I mean, um another one of Emma's fun facts, Emma's fun facts. Um, so while they were filming this two things about the doubles. So one, uh, they had a double, I forget what her name is, but she is now a Broadway actress and she's fabulous.
00:58:56
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Um, and then the way that they would film those scenes is they would have an earpiece in Lindsay Lohan's ear. So she would be being fed the, um, lines that the other twin was saying, but like in her voice,
00:59:10
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so that she could like react off of it so um they did everything they could at least it wasn't like you know what the original parrot trap where they had to splice the film yeah where they're and they're always like at a weird angle and everything yeah like this feels quite not quite right yeah yeah
00:59:32
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um so yeah so they get found out yeah by both Both granddad, grandfather, ah and grandfather. Oh, that's what I going to say. So Annie, while she's being a, Haley as Annie, being a sommelier, sees a, Martin is giving her sort of like a little message that someone sent her fax, which is a dog saying 911 and she falls out of her chair while she's seeing it.
01:00:03
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And then she goes, oh, so sorry. Oh, I had a sip too many. She had one sip. yeah I must have gotten a little woozy. um And the grandfather goes, woozy. Eh?
01:00:15
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And she runs and she goes to a phone booth very far away. And... Yeah, just runs into Central London on her own. An 11-year-old girl. yeah Yeah, exactly.
01:00:26
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And and um calls Annie as Hallie. And that's when she finds out that her dad is engaged to a Meredith Blake. To a Meredith Blake.
01:00:37
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The Meredith Blake. To a Meredith yeah. Yep. And ah grandfather catches her out. Chessie's already figured it out. ah And so they have arranged to have, like, a prenuptial sort of rendezvous at the... um at the hotel at a hotel in san francisco that nick and um meredith are looking at for their wedding and holly has told her mom that they're going and that she also says that her dad totally knows that they're coming and is totally cool with it and don't worry about a thing it's gonna be great and he's really excited to see you in like a fun way uh
01:01:24
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And her mom is like, so like, they have this really emotional moment and everything. But then her mom is like, all right, let's switch you back. I got to get the up my other kid. Like, yeah my daughter, i haven't seen eleven my daughter i haven't seen in 11 years. Like, okay, whatever.
01:01:38
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Go on. Let's get this done. And she's like suddenly swooning over her ex-husband. And like she's, again, she's so selfish. Like all she can think about is how she wants to get back together with him. And I'm like, well, what happened?
01:01:52
Speaker
Like what is the past history here? like they're Like we know i learned nothing. Like why did break And it even comes up when they're on this like um this date that their daughters set them on that they have Chessie and Martin be their butlers for.
01:02:08
Speaker
They're trying to recreate their the night that they met. um And ah Dennis Quaid turns to Natasha Richardson and goes, you know... What happened?
01:02:19
Speaker
Like, I can't remember what happened. What happened between us? And you think, oh man, this is the moment. This is when we're going to find out exactly what happened between the two of them. Nope.
01:02:30
Speaker
Nothing. it it There's more, and like, ambiguous language and nonsense and just, oh, that she left and he didn't go after her. That's it.
01:02:41
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they do that They decide not to go there, which, like, this movie is already two hours and nine minutes, so, like, I can understand that they needed to cut some stuff out, but But we need that.
Parents' Reunion and Dynamics
01:02:49
Speaker
It's a pretty big part. Yeah. Yeah. The motivation for the whole thing is kind of important sometimes. Right. And so they come up with an arrangement of like, oh, well, and then so um ah Natasha Richardson shows up.
01:03:06
Speaker
We have the fabulous scene where she's in Curler smoking a cigarette, packing her bag, and she asks Martin to go with her. and not Not as their butler. Not as their butler, but as a friend.
01:03:16
Speaker
You know I think so you're more than a butler. So he gets his sunglasses and his leather jacket. Martin, who is also so gay. So gay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's a butler in English. Like, they're all gay. That's kind of how it works.
01:03:31
Speaker
But he's also super gay. For American films. He's a leather daddy. Yeah. I don't know why they chose to have him in leather. It's very much like... I think dichotomy of, like, he's, like, this very buttoned up, like, butler as his job. But when he's on his days off, he's, like, he's he's a bad boy.
01:03:50
Speaker
Yeah. um ah He is familiar. He's in stuff. Like he's um he's in Four Weddings and a Funeral. He's in he's in stuff.
01:04:02
Speaker
um Captain America, maybe. Yeah. um some british tv some american tv that he he goes swimming when they're at the hotel the first thing he does is he goes swimming and he walks out in his swimming costume or as um charlie has called it he'll yell at me for or not yell at me but he'll say um emma i didn't i didn't come up with this phrase but it's where i heard it first in his budgie smugglers I don't care for that at all. um I mean, that's not much better than a banana hammock, which is what we call it in America.
01:04:39
Speaker
budgie is a small bird. Yeah, I know what a budgie is. The listeners might not know what a budgie is. that We have budgies in America.
01:04:54
Speaker
um They're parakeets. That's what budgies are. Yeah. yeah um But yeah, so they they they go to San Francisco. Elizabeth James, who hates flying, flies across the country to flip her daughters back.
01:05:06
Speaker
um And she gets drunk on the plane. um Which is wild for a Disney movie. I know. This woman smokes and drinks in this movie.
01:05:17
Speaker
I know. Also, did you see why it's rated PG? Charlie saw it and it made me laugh. Is it for smoking? ah Well, it's for um implied tobacco use, but also mischief.
01:05:30
Speaker
Mischief. That's good. Yeah, that's a classic. That's a classic MPA nonsense thing. um Yeah, I mean, smoking will get you a P. I mean, honestly, smoking will probably get you a PG-13 now.
01:05:41
Speaker
Really? You can't smoke in movies. Yeah.
01:05:45
Speaker
Oh. Because it's bad and it kills you. Yeah. And we shouldn't be- yeah But the problem is, it looks cool. It looks so cool. looks And it's also, it's it's such a great prop.
01:05:56
Speaker
But- um Yeah. Yeah. yeah its Yeah. Anyways. So they they make it to the hotel and everybody goes up to the room except for Elizabeth James, who's still like a drunky McDruck face.
01:06:09
Speaker
And she sees- um ah Dennis Quaid in the elevator with Meredith Blake's arms all around him and he sees her they make eye contact and they're like wait what are you doing here and so Elizabeth Blake Elizabeth James goes upstairs and is like guys you lied to me one of you lied to me I don't know which one because you're twins and I've never seen you in the same place except for when you were born mm-hmm but one of you lied to me. Your father doesn't know that I'm here, that I was coming. He looked very shocked.
01:06:45
Speaker
And, uh, all in all that she eventually runs into him and they discuss, you know, they go on ah dinner date, which ends up to be just the two of them. They talk about why they broke up, but they don't talk about why they broke up.
01:07:00
Speaker
And, um, They decide to just, you know, go back, switch the girls back and then go back to their lives um because this has been some fun little nonsense. Good to see them. They now know about each other. But um but yeah, we got we got to get back to our lives.
01:07:19
Speaker
Yeah, I can't have two daughters. Like, I have one daughter. don't give a shit about my other daughter that I haven't seen in 11 years. I feel like at the very least, it's a problem for the mom, you know? Yeah.
01:07:32
Speaker
The dad i can kind of see, like, yeah maybe not having. but like She carried them. Inside of you. She created these two babies.
01:07:42
Speaker
And hasn't seen your daughter 11 before. yeah Knowing she's a twin and with the other, like, hat and just, like, unconcerned. Right? yeah Knowing she's out there, knowing that you can't have contact with her.
01:07:55
Speaker
Like, yeah absolutely insane. how do you not have, like, a scene of her, like, just kind of, like, yeah, or, like, Like, talking more about it or having something.
Camping Trip and Meredith's True Colors
01:08:09
Speaker
There's just... Did she have amnesia for 11 years?
01:08:12
Speaker
Yeah. Like, that's the only... That's the only thing that would make sense. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah, Martin it fucking cries when he finds out about it. Right?
01:08:23
Speaker
Goodness gracious. And Martin did not carry those children. him. um ah They brought the dog yeah to the hotel. Love that. um There's some hijinks. Yeah.
01:08:34
Speaker
They basically come up with this this pretty good plan, honestly. Yeah. And they they're like, hey, guess what? You can't tell us apart. Yeah. now we're both going to do American accents for the rest of the movie because don't want to do it anymore. Yeah. As Lindsay Lohan.
01:08:48
Speaker
And... You can't tell which of us is Annie and which of us is Hallie. So you have to do whatever we say, or maybe we'll put the wrong one on the plane, which is like, yeah they got them.
01:09:00
Speaker
That's pretty good. abuse. Um, neither of them got a scar in 11 years, though. There's gotta be some way to tell them apart. Right? And, like, for a second there, I was just like, oh, for sure. this the There's the scene where Chessie's talking about the scar on, um her foot.
01:09:16
Speaker
And then I remember, oh, no, wait, that's the other twin movie. That's It Takes Two. That is, yes. Um, also, they don't look that much alike.
01:09:27
Speaker
Um... The, um... Yeah, because like, well, one of them is going to have really infected ears. So that would be the way you'd be able to pull apart in real life. yeah Yeah.
01:09:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. um I guess. Absolutely insane. But ah so then the plan is they come up with an ultimatum where they're like, here's the deal. We're going to spend what we're all going to go on this fun little family camping trip.
01:09:53
Speaker
And at the end, we'll tell you who's who. But we all have to go and we all have to you have a good time. This is their last ditch effort to sort of get their parents together.
01:10:05
Speaker
Uh, so they're all ready to go on the camping trip ah and Meredith Blake shows up and she goes, I'm sorry, wait, what, what is happening here? Which, you know, it is a little weird. Natasha Richardson is like, yeah, I get it. It's a little weird.
01:10:18
Speaker
I get that too. You know what? You take my place. I don't like camping. You take my place. Which like, that's not the deal. Like the the low hands just kind of go along with this for no reason really.
01:10:29
Speaker
Cause they don't get the plan until a little bit later that they're going to like show him how terrible she is. Yeah. Well, as they just do it in the moment. um Yeah. So they they go on the iconic hiking trip to the lake where um they put rocks in Meredith's backpack.
01:10:47
Speaker
hmm. The lizard on her. And the lizard terrifying goes in her mouth. Which it would never do that in a million years. Why would a lizard go in her mouth? That's crazy. Because she's screaming and it's giant hole. Lizard's not going to go in your mouth.
01:11:00
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Lizard's not going to go in your mouth. um Lizard's real cute. um Doesn't bother anybody. um Wouldn't go in your mouth. That's the whole thing about that. Like so you swallow spiders myth. Like a spider's not going to go in your mouth. You know what? One thing a spider doesn't want to be in is in your mouth.
01:11:16
Speaker
Really? Why? It's dark and wet. Spiders don't like that. Spiders don't want to be in ah in a wet place. Spiders like my shower dry. Okay.
01:11:31
Speaker
Water kills spiders. um If a spider went into your mouth, it would die.
01:11:38
Speaker
i mean, i'm not arguing your methodology. but
01:11:48
Speaker
Your shower is not as wet as your mouth. I don't like that. Yeah. You don't like that? Yeah. No. Well, you made me say it. I know.
01:11:59
Speaker
Why? Why? ah Yeah, so they go on. So a lizard gets in her mouth. And then they... ah But also Meredith's an idiot because she still accepts stuff from the twins, like like advice and um insect repellent, which is just sugar water.
01:12:19
Speaker
So she's being eaten alive by mosquitoes. And then she like is like clapping sticks together to keep the mountain lions away. Which I'm pretty sure there's mountain lions in California. um Big time.
01:12:30
Speaker
i mean, maybe not in Northern California, I guess, but I'm pretty sure mountain lions are like pretty all over California, especially in the mountains. Mountain lions, Northern California.
01:12:47
Speaker
They're rare. Okay. They're rare in Northern California. That's fair. It's colder there. Yeah. That's fair. um um yeah And then they do the best trick, which is where she takes a sleeping pill. So she's sleeping very heavily and yeah they drag her onto a raft and push her out into the lake, yeah which would likely be attempted murder in most states.
01:13:13
Speaker
But it's totally cool in Disney and dis yeah methodology. Yeah. She wakes up and stands up immediately. There's an adorable bird on her chest, which is like, oh my God, what a miracle. And this beautiful bird has landed on her and she freaks She thinks that it's, um, she thinks that it's Nick trying to have sex with her
01:13:33
Speaker
And she stands up, she falls in. Uh-huh. And then she, uh, she breaks her little, um, her little character where she tells, she yells at Nick. So if those little brats are going to Switzerland, it's either them or me. I'm like,
01:13:46
Speaker
How stupid can you be? like Yeah. Well, she's only 26. That's true. But, like, a person is never going to pick you over their kids. Ever. No one. and Not ah even Dennis Quaid. even He cares about one of those kids, if not both.
01:14:01
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was going to say, not even Nicholas Parker, who has ignored one of his two daughters for 11 years. Yeah. Yeah. yeah um Yeah, he cares about one of them. He's not sure which one, but one of them he cares about. and And only one.
01:14:20
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I have to choose that one. um So she's
Rainy Farewell and Concord Discussion
01:14:24
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out of the picture. ah and then they then they arrange... like the date for them um and it like doesn't quite work out and then they're gonna leave the next day yeah and it's raining both in northern california and in london it's just crazy which is crazy and so they're all sad and elizabeth and annie go home and they're they go to see grandfather and they go we're home we're home
01:14:52
Speaker
And they go into grandfather's office and lo and behold, it's Hallie. And they're like, how'd you get here so fast? And then free ad for the Concord. Yeah. She's like, oh, we took the Concord.
01:15:03
Speaker
Fair enough. Get to here in half the time. They don't do the Concord anymore. Can't would have come up with another way to do that now. Yeah. of
01:15:15
Speaker
Why don't they do the Concord anymore? I think it was too expensive and nobody like not enough people could afford it. You know? Oh, so it was a rich person. Well, of course the Concorde was a rich person.
01:15:32
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And now people who are that rich aren't going to, aren't going to take a public flight in any mean, no matter what. um i'm just say It's just, flight private yeah. I don't want to have to like touch a person, you know? Yeah, of course not.
01:15:43
Speaker
um disgusting peons the um and then they like well we should just get married and like but just think so they still haven't solved any problems like who's moving to London and who's moving to California like what's happening here exactly like i imagine they would have to move to california for the because like he can run his vineyard from london and just have other people running a vineyard from from from being far away is is a little bit more difficult than designing guess i would imagine and like she could open a store in california he couldn't open a vineyard in london
01:16:22
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it's her personality she's so british ah They're both terrible and don't deserve happiness. um But yet I love them. Oh, no, I love this movie. This movie's great. I love them so much.
01:16:36
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Yeah.
01:16:38
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Yeah, she literally says, like, she can't wait to switch the two of them back. She's like, I can't wait to switch the two of you back and never see my other daughter again.
01:16:48
Speaker
The parents don't barely notice. They barely notice the daughter switching clothes really, really fast. Because therere's it's the other one. like Right? Because they're just like, weren't you? Nice outfit. But weren't you wearing someone else like two seconds ago when I saw you upstairs?
01:17:01
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It's crazy.
01:17:06
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So they go back to the QE2 to get married again. and um the name yeah they that's the end of the movie. Get out of there. End of movie.
Charlie's Corner Introduction
01:17:16
Speaker
That's right, guys. That was the parent trap. um I mean, i i don't know if this is worth a Charlie's Corner, but but I'm going to do it anyway for the theme song. Charlie's Corner.
01:17:27
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Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner. Come on
01:17:34
Speaker
up. but You should say that I lip sync it every time. will let him know. And the listeners know. case you're wondering if Emma's just laughing at herself every time.
01:17:46
Speaker
No, it's because Katie lip syncs to it. ah Because it's that catchy. We'll be dropping it on iTunes. Someday. so we won't.
01:17:58
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Extended remix. Charlie's Connor. Unst, unst, unst, unst. I, governor, I, governor, I, governor, I, governor. Waka, waka. Uh-huh.
01:18:10
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Yeah, just like that.
01:18:14
Speaker
We don't even need to do it now. We can just like take that audio out. Yeah. There you go. And then that's your Charlie's Corner. ah What's your DJ name again, Emma? i DJ Tanner.
01:18:29
Speaker
Yeah, of course.
Name Games and 'Full House' Trivia
01:18:30
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Of course.
01:18:34
Speaker
That just flew right off my tongue. Improv, baby. Yeah, it's good. It's good. That's what I wanted. Yeah. Yeah. Did we ever find out in Full House what DJ is short for?
01:18:47
Speaker
um Dorothea James. I don't know. Dorothea Janet.
01:18:56
Speaker
Demetria? Donna Jo Margaret Tanner. Ugh, that's worse. Yeah, well, what's even worse is Candace Cameron Burr. Yeah, that's true.
01:19:08
Speaker
That's actually, that's fair play.
Reflections on 'Parent Trap' and Directorial Touches
01:19:10
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Very fair play. ah So yeah, so Charlie thought the movie was was a fun time, but ah like we all did, he thought that it was terrible arrangement.
01:19:25
Speaker
terrible ah arrangement yeah it's ah it's obscene like again like you should tell him that the book takes place just post world war ii and that really like clears up a lot of that i think yeah yeah yeah because you know world war yeah is the nazis they flee to austria in the in the book Oh, which is like, wasn't Austria? a i I don't know. its a Don't they have to like flee again?
01:19:53
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It's post World War Two. Like it's it's because I get because they're they're 10 the book is like from the early 50s. So I guess maybe it was. I don't know.
01:20:04
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I don't know. don't know. don't know. I read this book a long time ago. So I never read it.
01:20:12
Speaker
so yeah so any other thoughts feelings opinions um there's I think I have a couple things in here I took so many notes I take a ridiculous amount of notes like you can read these notes I take no notes anymore and get like an entire synopsis of the movie like scene by scene why am I like this um I did say that there's this scene where she says I hope she likes me I hope she likes me I know heartbreaking And then there's the bit where she's looking at her mother's dresser and like touching her things like her necklace and touching her perfume and stuff. And that's the kind of thing that I just don't think a male director would have done. Yeah.
01:20:52
Speaker
Oh, for sure. You know, like that like would not. The meaning ah behind like meeting your mom and trying to get your, to know your mom for the first time. Like, yeah. Like not to say that there isn't something about like getting to know your dad, but like, I don't know, this woman like,
01:21:09
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carried you yeah for nine months yeah yeah for sure um so there's um there's little bits like that i think this movie is i mean again like she had worked in hollywood for almost 20 years at this point writing and producing and stuff but this is her her first movie that she's directed and it's really really well directed especially considering all of the like tech tech stuff they had to do with doubling yeah lohan and everything and it was 98 yeah Yeah, really, really impressive. um Yeah. we We love Nancy Meyers. We make fun of her a lot because she's um in her own special bubble. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
01:21:47
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But we love
Next Movie: '27 Dresses' and Farewell
01:21:48
Speaker
it. We do, yeah. Yeah. so what are we watching next week am yeah so we are in the middle of wedding season my friend i i went to a wedding few weeks last weekend i'm going to another wedding next week um and all summer it's just weddings weddings weddings so you know what movie i thought we would do that uh feels appropriate for this time of year That's right, guys.
01:22:16
Speaker
We're going to do 27 dresses. 27 dresses. I'm going to say, because we could do a whole, we could definitely do a wedding month. Oh, for sure. Every year for for this podcast, for sure. Absolutely. It have to be June, and that's Pride Month, you know? know. So we're not going to take Pride Month away, because we want to showcase those films much more than showcase. Because we're not Home Depot. Or Target. Yeah.
01:22:40
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Yeah.
01:22:42
Speaker
27 dresses. Notable bad movie. ah I can't wait. I'm so excited. Hell yeah. All right. Shall we outro?
01:22:55
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01:23:07
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