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Ep 140 - Listener UFO Experience Stories

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Ep 140 - Listener UFO Experience Stories

This week we here from two experiencers who have both had unusual UFO incidents. First up is Richard, who joins me to share a number of his UFO experiences from when he was a child in the 1980's up until more recently, including a fascinating story involving the family's pet dog Prince!

Then we hear from Lucifer, who had a very personal encounter whilst camping with his family back in 2012.

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Introduction to Paranormal Stories

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Speaker
Welcome to the worst nightmare of all Reality Explore the lesser known stories of our unknown world Join the pursuit of the paranormal
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Speaker
This week we have two experiencer stories coming both in the same region of

Animal Sightings and Childhood Incident

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the UK actually. First up we have Richard and an interesting case involving animals and a couple other of his sightings over in Hull. Then we have Lucifer who had the absolutely fascinating incident, something that I'd never heard of before, an absolutely incredible experience he had at a campsite in Whitby.
00:00:47
Speaker
So both of these from kind of the East Yorkshire area. These are two interviews I did a couple of years ago but they're not really being heard or seen so I hope you enjoy. Hello everybody. I'll just let you go ahead and tell us your story.
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Well, there's a few, but there's the two that I was going to mention. One has a video link, which I'll go into later, which I sent you before. But the first one was one that's always stuck with me, which was back in the late 80s. I would have been around maybe six or seven, between six and eight, that kind of era. I remember being in the house and I was watching television.
00:01:25
Speaker
and all of a sudden my dog at the time had got off the chair that he used to sit in and he'd gone and sort of out of the corner of my eye he'd gone and sat down and then never thought anything of it but 10 minutes later as I started watching the screen he was still sat in the corner where he was peering right at the corner of the room like he was just
00:01:45
Speaker
concentrate almost like he was the statue just like intensely looking at the corner and then all of a sudden and i went over to him tried to you know see what was going on and i was his name was prince and i was saying prince prince what's wrong with you okay prince prince and then he i was getting upset because he wasn't talking you know obviously dogs don't talk obviously but as a dog lover we all know dogs can communicate to a level
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Speaker
with his master and i was sort of like getting it to do things all of a sudden it started growling and really sort of snarling and i was getting really worried now i'm screaming to my mom asking me for help you know i want to get i want to find out what's going on i thought the dog was having a stroke or something
00:02:25
Speaker
And then all of a sudden it just wouldn't stop moving. When I tried to grab hold of it, it was physically still like a statue. Anyway, my mum went upstairs because she thought somebody was breaking into the house because we have a flat roof. And the idea was that all the houses had flat roofs. So one person could jump on a house at one corner, run straight across, get into the bathroom window and so on.
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As she went upstairs, she said, oh my God, go upstairs, look at this, look at this. And we went upstairs, and when we looked, there was a big red light in the sky. Like, I don't know, maybe the size of what you see the moon from a distance, but bright red, like the sun would be. And this would have been

Speculation and Reflection on UFOs

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around probably 10 o'clock time, because it would have been probably school days, I think it was like on a weekend time, so it would have been going into the Monday, some Sunday nights, sort of Monday time.
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and it was late and looked outside and there was a big red light in the sky and it wouldn't move. It just didn't move. And the dog was obviously looking in that direction from the house into the corner. As that, we watched it for about five to ten minutes. As we went back downstairs to see what the dog was doing, it was still doing the same thing. And then the engine went back up. It had gone. The light had gone. So we rang the police and said we've seen something in the sky and so on.
00:03:43
Speaker
Police brought down quite a few number of units. They brought down like two vans, you know, right vans, and then a few squad cars, and they had dogs with them and stuff. They checked around for the area. They said to my family privately that even though people laugh at this subject, should we take this very seriously?
00:04:01
Speaker
At that point, I didn't know what to think. I'm a child, I didn't know what was going on. But when I came to think about years later, it always makes me think, well, it probably was something
00:04:15
Speaker
government, top secret kind of thing. But wow, it's a dog. Yeah, the way it did. I've always been interested to see how UFO stories match up because obviously people never mentioned stuff to do with animals and how they react. Or sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't. But on this occasion, this was a really interesting, interesting situation. I thought I'd share with people to see if anyone else has had this situation happen. That was pretty fascinating. Yeah. I mean, obviously, please comment quite
00:04:43
Speaker
Not here that very often where they actually come out with a team. Looking back, if I had to put money on it, I'd say it was probably some kind of top secret. They've got some sort of special forces team in the area. The rule is to drop in, go into the area, and then the police try and find out where they are.
00:05:03
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see what their testing abilities are in case, because during the Cold War, the height of the Cold War in the 80s, the threat of nuclear annihilation was quite big then. The dog incident makes me wonder if any sort of ex-military people could come out there and say,
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Speaker
you know we've got evidence to prove that we can talk or control animals with technology frequencies and stuff like that because if it's a nickel tesla mona hero to say uh energy frequency and vibration with the three main corporate things of the university you construct those three things together
00:05:39
Speaker
If you look into the film Meno Stare at Goats with George Clooney, that's based on the principle of being able to stare at a goat. I think we're trying to make his heart stop or lower or something. Same thing. I would bet money that it would probably have something to do with that. If it's not, then you go into the realm of extraterrestrial and so on. But I tend to sort of focus on the military aspect, but it may well be something of an extraterrestrial.

Cultural References and Recent Sightings

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Who knows?
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Did you ever hear anything back from your family from the police? Did you ever do a follow-up? What did you say? We didn't get any kind of follow-up story or ask just to come back. I don't even remember reading about it in the paper either. I don't think it was in the newspaper or even on the news. My family would be trying to see if the BBC at the time would mention it but there was nothing on the TV or the radio.
00:06:31
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But I mean someone might be able to go back and look at that. It would have been in the Stone Ferry region of Hope, where I live. So it would have been in the Stone Ferry area. And you can see it from our house window. It was in the corner. It was a big round circle, perfectly circle, like a 10 pence piece. I'd say it looked like, if you didn't know what it was, you might say it was the moon, but red. It was a red moon, which was the moon. So the moon was over there, a different sign. This was in the corner.
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it was just stationary just there and very interested what year was that probably in the late 80s i can't say specifically but you're talking like 87 to 88 maybe 89 but before before the cold war ended
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I guess that was quite scary for a kid of that age to be seen with the dog and with the police coming and all that. My biggest worry was the fact that I saw a film years ago where a dog, it was an American movie and the dog went crazy and started barking all the time and the guy who owned it had to get a shotgun and shoot it and I always thought in the back of my mind that's what's going to happen to our dog.
00:07:39
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And I said to my mum, why does the guy shut the dog for me? And she said, well, that's what happens. Dogs go crazy sometimes. You have to put them to sleep. And I always assumed that someone would come along and go. So I always tried to keep the dog calm because I always worried that the dog was going to get taken off. So that was my worry. But we don't have that in the UK, thankfully. But still, that was my worry as a child that I keep the dog from being crazy.
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Speaker
Yeah, definitely. So obviously being a young age when you saw that, has that led to your interest in the subject of UFOs or unusual things in the sky? Funnily enough, when people come close to what they call the UFO, they tend to have temporary amnesia. So for a number of years, I've never even thought of it.
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until all of a sudden something came on TV again and it kind of retriggies the memory. Yeah, yeah. And all I have to do is go downstairs and say, oh, mum, remember that light? Oh, we don't live there anymore. It was an old previous house we used to live at. I said, remember the light we saw over the old house? And she'll just go, oh, yeah, remember that? She'll talk about it. This was yesterday.
00:08:43
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But funnily enough, we kind of all just forgot about it. But over the years, my dad has been a huge UFO apologist, and I've focused mainly on history, 20th century history and stuff like that. World War II in particular.
00:08:59
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generalised as well. Most of this has been the last, say, 10-15 years I've gone into it more seriously, but prior to that it was kind of like lukewarm. I watched the films, always been a Star Wars fan and a Star Trek fan, but now I've kind of looked into it more seriously and I'm happy to debate with people and discuss things at length. Yeah, so it's a very, very interesting time to live in.
00:09:24
Speaker
The biggest thing is what we're doing right now. People weren't doing this back in the 80s. So if we saw something back in the 80s that I did, I couldn't go on the internet and say, have you just seen this? And everybody else come down and say, I just saw the same thing. But now people can do that. And also they can film it as well. So. So you sent me a video as well of a more recent sighting that you had. Yes. So go ahead. Tell me about that one.
00:09:48
Speaker
Well, me, a friend, and then a friend and his girlfriend, we'd all gone out to Benton, which is just off the coast of Bridlington, East Yorkshire, and we'd gone out looking for UFOs because we'd gone to a meeting where people were smoking about it, and someone had detailed, quite detailed,
00:10:13
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information on Benton being a hotspot for UFOs it's linked to um well it's not linked to it but it's got a link to it the um skinwalker ranch skinwalker ranch in america is where Native Americans used to be sold off as slaves and so on well in Benton in the area it's an old RAF base and what the link is is there's something going on
00:10:35
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on the planet where there's like a line that goes around. The Skinwalker Ranch line for America goes right across the Atlantic, right across to Britain, and I think it goes through to Denmark and parts of Europe. That link has all those places have similar issues to Skinwalker Ranch. And Benton has alleged to have had an issue where animals were being mutilated, which had been found. We went up there that night looking for sort of different things. On the first night we went, it was a perfect sky.
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I have to quickly mention my friend has Mind Melting Mysteries on YouTube. He's posted the video because he filmed it. I tried to film it on my phone, on my video camera, on my photos, but it all came out dark so I couldn't get the video myself. But the video link is to his video because he has the videos that he does.
00:11:24
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but he was with us and he videoed it and what we saw was we were looking out towards the sea and his girlfriend saw a light behind us I saw a light in front of us there's a big light on the coast which is the light that goes out around the sea that's always going out so it's not to be mistaken with that but there was two lights
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behind us, wonderful,

Military and Government Involvement in UFOs

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and there was a third light over there, and it was clearly moving in unison with each other and moving about. And because of that, we started filming. We were actually going to go home because we got through, it was out for about two hours, nothing was happening. It was pretty dark. It was a really good sky, so we were looking at the stars. But what we wanted to see was obviously UFOs. And then on that particular night, about 12 o'clock, the audience went boom. And then all of a sudden, they started flashing up and moving and so on. We were quite intrigued by it. When we went home,
00:12:19
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my friend edited the video because he was able to slow it down and he saw that footage and sent it to us and we were like wow this is amazing we posted it on the Facebook UFO website people could see it in great detail and you know it's a real video we haven't faked it the only thing is it's been slowed down so that you can see it because the camera was kind of coming down as it was going in so you miss a little bit but yeah it's a very good video but once again we don't know what it is so
00:12:48
Speaker
people need to make their own minds up. There's definitely more to it than just you know people seeing lights in the sky. I mean sometimes about 95% of all the things in the sky are probably explainable but there's that really you know small 5% which which make up the you know make up the UFO. The 5% we live for.
00:13:12
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Yeah, that's the one my people want to know about. Just going to another topic, I made a note of different things. There was another incident which wasn't UFO related, but just to give people a guidance, because sometimes you hear things and people don't know how to interpret stuff. It was a really good time. Me and my friend was playing in the house on a PlayStation.
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And all of a sudden, the house started shaking really bad. And I thought, was that an earthquake? Because we never had an earthquake before, so we didn't know what to expect. But the house was shaking. Anyway, so I ran through to the other room.
00:13:46
Speaker
ironically the same bedroom which I first saw the UFO about 20 years previously as that the house was shaking as I looked up as I looked through the window I saw this big giant light come over the house like this and I was stunned I was literally gobsmacked I couldn't speak I was like oh my god and there was no mobile phones I couldn't get a phone and start filming it but it was moving over the house was still shaking it was moving across like this and to me it looked like a big giant like
00:14:14
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octopus you know like it had like a light over or something as you started to get further and further away i was rubbing my eyes i couldn't believe what i was seeing it was actually i forget if it was five or six fighter jets all on the line so one engine and all together they made a huge like ball of light and then individually there was balls of light individually and then one big ball and they went over the house really low if you'd have been stood on your roof
00:14:39
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being blown off because that's how low they was they were literally probably 20 feet above the house the whole house was shaking and that was because of that but just to give you an idea i mean i was literally i want to say frozen with fear but i was just literally dumbfounded by the fact that i didn't know what i was looking at because i could see through it but you could clearly see like a pinky reddish over it and that was just like the heat of the engines so some people might get mistaken by things like that
00:15:04
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I wanted to mention that because obviously I like to debate, so I give both sides of the debate. So on that occasion I was like, oh my god, that's like a UFO. No one's going to believe me. It's clearly an alien spacecraft. And as it flew over, I was like, oh, it's five or six languages. But it had to be a distance away before I saw it. When it was right over me,
00:15:24
Speaker
i was like this is a spacecraft there's nothing more i didn't know what to i could see through it it's so amazing to see it's like looking at that bottle i can see you through it but i can also see the something there and this this is reminding me of like um like say of an octopus or a squid or jellyfish where you can see through it but you can also see yeah and it was just moving across the sky like that and i realized oh my god it's actually um
00:15:51
Speaker
you know something real like a spacecraft but as it got further away I could start to make out the engines in the back of the plane and it was all in a row like five or six of them and the heat of the engine was causing like a light like this and all those lights together made a really big one so just to give people like a bit of a grounding you know to say oh wow actually could actually be something yeah definitely
00:16:17
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As investigators, the amount of different sources we have to check because it could just be so many different things that you just don't usually think about. When you realise, oh yeah, that's pretty simple. I've heard pilots, fighter pilots, say things like, more of American ones than British ones, but I've heard them say things like they fly over a certain camping area in America with pitch black, no lights.
00:16:44
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And as soon as they turn their engine off, so they glide in. So they go really fast, turn their engine off, and then glide across. And as soon as they get near to someone, they go the engine and fire it up. And all they see is a light. And they think, oh, it's just spacecraft. They'll show off really quickly and stuff like that. Yeah, it will, though, because it's doing faster than sound. But it's still an aircraft, you know? I think it's on the Joe Rogan's podcast over here, a pilot telling that story.
00:17:10
Speaker
As the pilot said, let's give someone a full sighting. That's right, I think that's what I'm saying. You do the maneuvers. That's a great episode. I think that's the one with Commander David Traver about the tip-top. That's right. The gimbal videos. What did you make of that video? I think it's the best we've got in terms of anything over the past 50 years.
00:17:38
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I think, I mean, it's gone from the military, they've said they don't know what it is. But look at your footage, you've got the panelists testing on, you've got the radar operators. I just think, in terms of the uvology, I think that's probably the best thing. Well, the interesting things that I think about in terms of military over the years is,
00:17:59
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The Air Force commander, the chief of the air in the United States, came out and said that when the Space Force was created, he started mentioning, I want some of those weapons, you know, your space weapons you've got, because I need to make sure the Air Force is safe. And the people at the top said, no, you're not getting it.

Lucifer's Profound UFO Encounters

00:18:15
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That's for the Space Force. And he says, well, I want to be protected, and you're not allowed to get it. So it just shows you that the Air Force doesn't have the equipment it needs.
00:18:25
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I also had other stuff I've seen over the years that you know the one in America we saw was like a little tiny silver light was all driving down Arizona I used to live in the States that's why I've got American flag on my walk I used to live there but it was driving down to Arizona and we saw the silver light in the sky move real quickly and go around and go slowly and move real quick and go slowly and move real quick
00:18:46
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My friends at the town, which were from Sweden, they said it was probably a UFO, but I was like, it's probably just a fighter jet watching it go slow, because it's moving slowly as it turns around, then goes really quickly, and then slows down as it goes around.
00:19:00
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But there's a lot of things that I've seen over the years, but generally speaking, the two big ones are the video that we've got, and then the one that I mentioned with my dog, because I very rarely hear people mention animals in UFO stuff. And that's why I mentioned it, because, you know, if it wasn't for the dog, I'd just say it was probably a military craft, you know, doing some sort of mission. But because the dog reacted in the way that it did,
00:19:25
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And my dog was never vicious or growl. He would never growl or be aggressive. So to do what he did, he was really snarling, really fat. Like almost, like he was snarling at something in the corner of the room.
00:19:40
Speaker
Perhaps he was snarling at me because I was trying to move him. I don't know. But my good instinct was he was snarling at something that he could sense. Obviously he couldn't see it because there's a wall above him. Probably couldn't smell it because the distance was so fast. He had to have heard it. So he must have heard a frequency, he must have heard a sound that was so aggressive that it made him go the way he did. Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:07
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Well, thank you very much for these stories. Definitely a lot to dive into. Yeah, thanks so much for joining us. Oh, you're welcome. It's super fascinating. And like if anybody has anything similar, especially with the animal aspect, get in touch. I'd love to hear your story.
00:20:23
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Yeah, I'd be interested to see if anyone from the military had done an experiment on trying to talk to a dog and make it sit and roll over from a distance via that technology. Because that would answer that question. Yeah. Different frequency, different wavelengths.
00:20:47
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Yeah, exactly, yeah. That's all it is. We only see, what, 0.5% of all light. So there's a small bandwidth that we see. So there could be all sorts. Well, there is all sorts. The UV light, for example. Infrared, night vision. These are all forms of light that we can't see. So there's all sorts of things that could be going on. Dogs can hear at high frequency at a weekend. So it's quite possible the dog was picking up a frequency that we was oblivious to.
00:21:11
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So, which you probably was, that's my gut instinct. Whether it was man-made or not, it's to question people and ask people, what do you think it is? Leave the debate open. Yeah, that's it. So, always lots to be learning and looking into. Like, there's always something that you don't know. I mean, just try and find out. Okay, thank you.
00:21:39
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Well, it happened quite a few years ago now. I think it was around about 2012. And it was the August Bank holiday. We have bank holidays here in the UK, as I'm sure you're aware, Ash, just in case some of your viewers are from abroad. What it is, it's basically a day off of work. And it's a national bank holiday for our England, Wales and Scotland.
00:22:07
Speaker
And so what we decided to do, my wife at the time, I'm now divorced from her, we decided we were going to go camping to Whitby, which is a seaside town. So we packed all the car up nice and early in the morning with a tent and camping equipment and we set off.
00:22:29
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When we got down there, most of the campsites were all fully booked. It was a last minute decision on the Saturday to go. And like I say, unfortunately, they were all fully booked. So what we decided to do was to drive around Whitby and see if we could find
00:22:54
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another campsite. We drove around, kept driving around to different ones, they were all full, so we then thought we'd drive maybe out of the town towards Yorkshire way because that's not far from Whitby and as we were driving out the town into more the countryside I noticed at the sides of the road there was a sign saying camping here ยฃ5 per night.
00:23:18
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happy day sounds like a parking so pulled in and the farmer come out from one of the buildings and he said yeah can i help you i said yeah i'm interested in camping here for a couple of nights the saturday night and the and the sunday night um if that's okay and he said yeah as the sign says it's five pounds per night and i said is it okay to have a campfire he said yeah certainly that's no problem at all i said i've got
00:23:46
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I've got a dog as well. Is that okay? He said, yeah, that's okay. He said, I've got two fields here. He said, I've got one over the far side where there's a big marquee and 10, which is full of youngsters. I think it's a 21st party thing that they're having. Or he said, you can go on this first field. He said, I've got another, a couple halfway down the field. So I said, I'll go on the same field as the couple. I said, but we'll go right down the bottom if that's all right. He said, yeah, no problem. So went all the way down.
00:24:15
Speaker
and set up all the tent and whatnot. By the time we set all the tent up, because it's a big old tent we had, I think it was like a six man tent or something, by the time we'd set that up, it was starting to get dark. So I set off on my own with the dog and gathered some wood for the fire, come back and got the fire going in there. And then we got some chairs out and me and the missus and my
00:24:43
Speaker
my four-year-old daughter at the time, I think she was four. We sat around the campfire and it was dark now, so we had a couple of beers and just sitting there chatting about what we were going to do the following day. And my daughter said, could I borrow your phone, Dad, and do the app on there, which tells you what all the stars are. I think it's called Starwalk or something. Don't quote me on that.
00:25:11
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But yeah, what it is, it's so you can hold your phone up and it's actually live and it tells you as you point it at the star, the name of the star.
00:25:19
Speaker
It picks up satellites, tells you the name of the satellites and when they were launched and all that sort of information. It's a really good app, actually. What my daughter likes about it is the stars, you know, like for cancer, it will show the stars and it will form the shape of a crab. So it's easier for the children to be able to recognize the stars in the sky. Anyway, she was, you know, enjoying it and pointing at what stars were what.
00:25:44
Speaker
And then she said to me, dad, dad, this star is not showing up. And she said, I noticed it at the beginning. It's the one right above us. So I said, yeah, let me have a look. So I had a look at the app, holding it up to what we thought was a star. And sure enough, it wasn't showing up on the app. And it was quite a bright star. So the missus says, well, let me have a look. So she had a look and sure enough,
00:26:15
Speaker
wasn't showing up for her either. I said, well, maybe there's something wrong. So I shut down all the other apps on the phone like you do, tried it again, still wasn't showing up. So I said, well, what I'll do, I'll turn the phone off and turn it on again. So I've done that. I then opened the app back up, held it up to the star. And as I did so, what we thought was a star
00:26:39
Speaker
shone a really bright light down on us and when I say a bright light it was impossible to actually look at the light because it would hurt your eyes so we were all sort of like this you know trying to look up with our hands but it was just too bright. I looked over
00:27:01
Speaker
And my daughter was sat next to me and then my missus to the other side of her. So my daughter was in the middle between us. And I looked over at both of them and they looked really, really white, really ill. My wife was trying to talk to me, but I just couldn't hear her. I couldn't hear her anything. It was completely silent, as if I'd gone deaf. So all I could hear was like this.
00:27:30
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you know, mouthing, and I couldn't work out what she was trying to say to me. And not only that, I noticed that she was moving in slow motion. It was...
00:27:40
Speaker
It was a very weird thing. And I started to feel sick. I felt sick, sort of nauseous and really not well. And then I looked to my left and I noticed all around me, apart from being in the light, was complete solid blackness. Could not see nothing outside. So what I'd done, I put my arm out of the beam of light and my arm just disappeared into solid blackness. There was nothing there.
00:28:10
Speaker
It was very, very... That's insane. Yeah, it was very, very strange because you'd think you'd be able to see the fields and that around us, but there was nothing. It was solid blackness. And then all of a sudden, the light went out and it went back to being a bright star again. So we all looked up at it. And then it started to move across the sky very, very slowly like this.
00:28:38
Speaker
And then all of a sudden, it just shot off at a phenomenal speed that I don't think there's anything on this planet that would move at that speed. But the whole time, you couldn't hear any change. There was no noise. There was no change in temperature. There was no wind. There was nothing. It was just completely steel, completely silent.
00:29:05
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And also what froze me a little bit about this is the fact that if that was some sort of craft, then how come the stars all the way around that light were still showing up on the app as stars? It was if, you know, I can't explain, it was just as if like everything else was there.
00:29:33
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It's unexplainable as to what it was. Anyway, you know, afterwards, I said to the wife, I said, you know, are you all right? She said, no, I feel really rough. I feel sick. I feel a bit dizzy. I said, yeah, so do I. And Antonio said, what was that? Antonio is my daughter. And I said to her, oh, I think it was a helicopter, Antonio, because obviously I didn't want to worry her.
00:29:57
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And I said, look, I think it's probably best we go to bed. And, you know, the missus said, yes. When Littlen had fallen asleep, I spoke to the missus and I said to her, I said, that one from this planet, that definitely wasn't from this planet. She went, no. And she said, you were moving in slow motion. And, you know, I was shouting at you and you just couldn't hear what I was saying. I said, it was just the whole thing is just unexplainable.
00:30:26
Speaker
Anyway, we went to sleep and we agreed not to talk about any more in front of Antonia because we didn't think it was a good idea at the time. And the following morning I got up, the farm has got showers that people, if you camp there, you can use their showers.
00:30:46
Speaker
So I walked up with my towel and as I walked past the other couple's tent, the gentleman came out and he said to me, are you all right, mate? And I said, I'm OK. He said, what was all that that light about last night? I said, oh, did you see it? He said, he said, yeah.
00:31:03
Speaker
He said it was a proper beam, like a spotlight, the searchlight that they used to use during World War II, but it was a million times brighter. It was just a pure beam of white light on you. And he said, you guys were moving at 100 miles an hour if you were raving. It was the oddest thing I've ever seen. And I said, no, we weren't moving fast, mate. I said, we were moving slow.
00:31:31
Speaker
He said, no, I'm telling you, your arms and that were all flying around. And I don't remember doing any of that. And he said, I said, I'm glad it only lasted like a couple of minutes. He said, no, that didn't last a couple of minutes, mate. He said, that lasted a good 20 minutes.
00:31:50
Speaker
and my face just dropped. I felt really, really ill when he said that to me. I said, are you sure? He said, absolutely. He said, it was a good 20 minutes. He said, I was going to come over, but he said, I've never seen nothing like it. And there was no sound. He said, I couldn't see where the light was coming from. He said, it was just come out the night sky. And he said, are you sure you're all right, mate? He said, you look ever so white. I said, yeah. I said, I think I have a shower.
00:32:18
Speaker
I said, I think maybe we should go to a doctor. I said, I'll be all right. And I walked off and had the shower. And when I come back down, he wasn't out. He was in the tent. I went back to our tent and I spoke to the missus. I said, look, this is what this guy said. And she said, oh, something ain't right here, is it? I said, no. I said, I don't know what's happened. I said, but we've lost like 25 minutes of time somewhere. And it's really strange.
00:32:47
Speaker
You know, we went off into the town that day. When we come back in the evening, that couple had gone, their tent had gone.

Personal Reflection and Exploration of Experiences

00:32:55
Speaker
I didn't speak to the farmer about it. When we left on the Sunday, I just paid him and we left. He didn't talk to me about it. I don't know if he'd seen it from his farmhouse or what, but no one. I didn't speak to anybody else about it until we came back.
00:33:16
Speaker
I've only spoke to family and friends about this. Most people are a bit skeptical that, you know, they're not too sure. They think I'm a little bit crazy. But one thing that I have had, like I mentioned on the UFO channel when I wrote on there, is that I have had a couple of health conditions and that was that I've now got tumors on my adrenal glands.
00:33:44
Speaker
Now, I don't know if this has come from that, but basically my body now doesn't produce testosterone naturally. So I'm on hormone replacement therapy, which really for someone at that time of age shouldn't really have those sort of problems.
00:34:08
Speaker
Now I watched several videos on YouTube regarding UFOs and so forth and I've heard a couple of people mention that I don't know if this is true or not but people that have been abducted
00:34:30
Speaker
They've said that whatever abducted them has tried to eat the adrenal gland. Now, don't know, don't quote me on this, but I have heard that a couple of times before, but I haven't made mine eaten. I've just got tumors on mine, but it makes you wonder, I don't believe there are. You know, I've always throughout my life, I don't think there are coincidences.
00:34:58
Speaker
But that's a health problem that I've got. Apart from that, I'm perfectly healthy. So that was that particular case. It is a bit out there. It really is.
00:35:12
Speaker
But yeah, I'm quite happy to answer any questions on that. Yeah, so that happened on the first night, the whole incident. Yes. So when you were staying for the second night, did you feel anxious or worried that something could happen again? Did you feel like you wanted to stay or leave? Did you just want to just not think about it? No, my daughter didn't want to go back. We did talk about going back.
00:35:37
Speaker
My daughter didn't want to because it was seaside town and that there's so much to do there. So we decided we would stay. Yeah, we did. We did use the app again. But obviously that star wasn't that star wasn't there. I don't know if I'm glad it wasn't there or not. You know, to be honest, it would have been it may be it would have been nice to it to have come back because.
00:36:07
Speaker
you know, it's just, it's a very strange experience. So, yeah. Yeah, I suppose it happens again, you know, you're not just imagined it like that first time or you're like a shared hallucination or something like that. If I can understand, yeah, you think I'm not crazy, like this has happened to me. So yeah, I can understand that I was sort of wanting it to happen again, just to sort of justify it to yourself, maybe.
00:36:35
Speaker
yes yeah my daughter was uh six i think i might have said she was four but i believe she must be six she was born in 2006 and it happened in 2012 yeah so she was six years old um you know i've spoken to my my daughter about it since then and she says she does remember um
00:36:56
Speaker
But she doesn't remember how she felt. That's the only thing. She remembers the bright light and that was about it. But I've said to her since then that I believe it was an unidentified flying object. And she believes it was as well. Obviously at the time, like I said, we told her that it was a military helicopter or something, even though there was no sound, there was no wind.
00:37:24
Speaker
I don't know if the military have anything like this. You never know, do you? But for something to move as fast as what that did was incredible. I don't believe there's anything on this earth that can move at that speed. It was literally like that. One minute it was there. That doesn't sound like it. Yeah. Yeah. And normally if it was a craft that we had built with engines, you'd have sound. It would make a noise when it was moving away.
00:37:52
Speaker
especially if it's that close yeah for sure absolutely yeah but before this experience have you had any like did you believe in UFOs or anything absolutely absolutely i've always believed that there's something out there and if you want my honest opinion i don't feel that i'm from this planet i feel like i'm from i don't fit in here um you know but then
00:38:17
Speaker
It's just some people feel like that, you know, I just I've never felt like I've fitted in. I dress differently to everyone. Anyways, you can see I've got bright green hair. You know, but that's who I am. I don't I don't I'm not a sheep, you know. But yeah, I've never had any other UFO experiences. Paranormal activity. Yeah. I've had quite a few of experiences from from those, you know, ghosts as most people call them. Had a lot of experience with those.
00:38:48
Speaker
But yeah, this is a totally different thing. This is really unexplainable, you know. So when you look back, like now, a couple of years later, you when you think about what happened in your mind, that's aliens, that's something off this planet. And you feel at peace with that happened to you.
00:39:14
Speaker
You know what? Afterwards, I've always felt that they're going to come back for me one day. I've had an inner feeling that they're going to come back for me. And I've always said that. And about a year ago, they did. There was a craft outside the house. It was a Saturday evening. We'd just been out and done the shopping. It was in October.
00:39:45
Speaker
So it was dark early. I was just unloading the car with the shopping. And it was a clear sky with a few clouds. It's a bit overcast, as you say. And I was just taking, coming back out the second time to get some bags out of the boot of my car. And I don't know, I just happened to look up and in the sky was a circle of white lights.
00:40:12
Speaker
covered by cloud, but you could see white lights and they were flashing on and off in a circle. Didn't seem that quite high up either. But again, there was no noise, nothing at all. So I straight away shouted out to my missus and my boys, they come out here, come out here, look, there's some lights in the sights at UFO and they came out and we all looked up at it.
00:40:37
Speaker
And I said to the missions, go and get your phone. Get your phone. Just take a photo. Took photos. But it was nothing to come out. It was just blackness. It's just nothing at all. And then all of a sudden, they disappeared. And all the electricity in the house went out. All the lights went out. Everything. As if like, you know, when a trip, the fuse trips. There was no power in the house whatsoever. And when we come back in, they all come back on again. A couple seconds later, they come back on again.
00:41:07
Speaker
And then the following night, um, I was taking them putting out the recycling to the recycling bin. Just happened to look up again and it was back. It was there again in the night sky. So I called out to the missus again. She come out. We both stood at the back door and we stood up and we looked at it. It was flashing again on and off the lights and then it disappeared. And then all the electric went off again, you know? So it was, um,
00:41:37
Speaker
it was weird you know very strange it's unexplainable i just wait i just don't know what's going on but like i said to you i i get i get a feeling that they want something from me i don't know i i can't explain it um i'm very fortunate the woman that i'm with now
00:42:02
Speaker
We've been together nearly three years. She's very understandable and she has an open mind the same as what I do. You know, we're both believers because she saw it as well. That's always good to have your family. Believe you, that's the main thing especially dealing with it alone. You can talk to someone about it. It's pretty important. Absolutely.
00:42:30
Speaker
But that is my honest opinion. I actually do feel that there is a chance they'll revisit me again. So watch this space. Yeah, you know, what I've thought about doing is going to someone that can hypnotize me and take me back to that night and maybe they can find out what happened to the missing 20 minutes.
00:42:57
Speaker
you know, I'm really keen on doing that, because apparently hypnosis allows you to do that. And you can actually let people, when you're hypnotised, you can tell them what you're seeing. And it would be really interesting. So that might be my next chapter, what I might do. And if I do do that, I certainly will let you know, because no doubt you'll be interested. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people. Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
00:43:26
Speaker
Yeah, so I will definitely let you know if I do choose to do that because it would be interesting. Yeah, cool. Well, I appreciate you taking the time to come and tell your story. And I hope you and your family are staying safe. Thank you, Ash. I appreciate that. And you're more than welcome, mate. I thoroughly enjoyed being on here. And like I say, if I do choose to do that hypnosis thing, I'll let you know.
00:43:57
Speaker
pursued the paranormal.