Introduction to the Episode
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Zack
What is up? Welcome to the Next Guy Up podcast. We are here on a Thursday getting ready to preview a huge week of football. I am here with the boys, Mason and Tins. We are excited about an episode today.
Preview of College Football and NFL Games
00:00:25
Zack
We got week three college football, week two of NFL, and we have a very special segment today. If you were dialed in to our last Monday episode, Mason had a hot take about a movie That would be Transformers.
00:00:42
Zack
He made the claim that it is a top 10 movie of all time. And so Tenz and I called him out, and Mason will be and starting off the show here in just
Mason's Top 10 Movies Teaser
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Zack
a second, giving us his top 10 movies of all time.
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Zack
Mason, how are you feeling about this exercise we're going to do today?
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Mason
I texted the guys earlier today and was talking about how elite this list is, how I have so much confidence and my research, I feel great about it.
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Mason
I wouldn't change a thing.
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Mason
The only thing is, is I could not
00:01:14
Mason
Well, I was, you know, just diving in.
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Mason
I want to give like reasons why. So I was like given reasons why on the, yeah.
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Mason
But I'm, I'm, I'm primed and ready to go on this list.
00:01:27
Mason
The only thing is, is I had 11 and one had to get kicked to the curb.
00:01:32
Zack
I mean, that's fine.
00:01:34
nextguyup
There's no rules.
00:01:34
Mason
It's the top 10. Uh, it's okay.
00:01:36
nextguyup
Who says everything has to be?
00:01:37
nextguyup
ah Yeah, why do we do everything in top tens?
00:01:40
Mason
You know what? Yeah, let's do, let's do it. Yeah. Let's do top 11 movies.
00:01:43
Zack
20 mason mason's top 100 movies of all time two hour pod solo pod that's mason's solo pod punishment that would be electric what if he had to lose off his 200 he would not be able to even not get to 200 movies mason could you list off 200 movies you've seen
00:01:46
Mason
Mason's top 11 starting now. That's that's the podcast.
00:01:56
Mason
We did talk about that one time.
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nextguyup
ah punishment for the
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Mason
No one would listen.
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Mason
Probably an eight hour marathon.
00:02:09
Mason
Oh my goodness, probably not. It'd probably be...
00:02:13
Zack
You have 25 MCU movies and then 25 Disney movies, 25 Pixar movies, eight Harry Potter movies.
00:02:16
Mason
Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe.
00:02:21
Mason
Okay, so it's 75 right there. I could get to 150. There you go. Yeah, did ah you guys are gonna do your predictions, aren't you?
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nextguyup
Lord of the Rings go over I feel pretty confident over there
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Mason
Yeah, there you go. Listening off some stuff.
00:02:32
Zack
Okay, so yeah tens and I wanted to uh, mason's been hyping up his list. It's the greatest list of all time. He says Uh tens and I wanted to take a shot at guessing some of the picks on this list before we get there. So um tens Over under three and a half marvel movies on the list Over three and a half, okay Um
00:03:02
Zack
Okay, I think there's definitely a couple. What about over under one and a half Pixar movies?
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nextguyup
I'll go over there as well.
00:03:15
Zack
Yeah, we already know one of the spots is Transformers, so we've got that covered.
00:03:19
nextguyup
Right. But how many Transformers?
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Zack
That's something to think about. um There's also a multiple, ah cause is Fast and Furious going to get on there?
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Zack
parts of the caribbean i think it will uh could be if it were me making this list i would put like one movie from each of those properties i don't know if mason will do that though no because we
00:03:34
nextguyup
I don't know if pirates is gonna make it. I think pirates is number 11. I think pirates is at 11.
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nextguyup
Yeah. Not Marvel.
Revealing Mason's Movie List
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Zack
know two of them there's gotta to be on there from the from the jump yeah so
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nextguyup
One and two right there.
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nextguyup
But I want it, but I want to know if there's like a there's got to be at least one wild card that we don't see coming. That's like.
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nextguyup
Like a rom com.
00:04:12
Zack
What was that movie really recently that Mason was super high? Oh, Dune 2. I think Dune 2 is going to show up on the list.
00:04:20
nextguyup
Oh, it might. That might be the wild card thing, because that doesn't really.
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Zack
He really hyped it up.
00:04:27
nextguyup
It's not really a Mason movie.
00:04:31
Mason
Not saying a thing.
00:04:31
nextguyup
I I still feel like I think one rom com makes its way on there.
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nextguyup
Or a comedy movie, maybe of some sort, like a.
00:04:38
Zack
Strange multiverse of madness Deadpool
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nextguyup
Well, I was gonna say, I was gonna say a Will Ferrell project, but he doesn't, he's kind of a hater of Mr.
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Zack
He's he doesn't like comedies not enough action Not enough explosions How many Michael Bay movies
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nextguyup
Hates laughter.
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nextguyup
The other guys though, the other guys is funny.
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Zack
Because that includes Transformers, but it also has some other ones on there.
00:05:08
nextguyup
I don't know all of Michael Bayes. All I know him for is short formers, I think.
00:05:13
Zack
Yeah. Now let's click on the job.
00:05:17
nextguyup
That was that was very specific like like maybe you've read done some research about it in last couple of hours The famous battleship
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Mason
That's not on my list.
00:05:26
Zack
Okay. So as, as we listen to Mason's list, just let's, I think we should reflect on his picks. Maybe we should cross check it with IMDB's like top like rate rankings and see how he how he compares to the world.
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Zack
um Mason Famous for his taste in movies. Let's just let's reveal what we think is his his ah peak movie experiences and see how many of these fit the category.
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Zack
High action. um Low You're a big like a family friendly person. You don't like a lot of vulgarities.
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Mason
Okay. Yep. It's pretty good.
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Zack
You know, you like to you like a PG-13, not an R.
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nextguyup
But death and explosions is okay, yeah, yeah Hmm
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Zack
So I think that factors into it. No Titanic, probably.
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nextguyup
maybe the notebook I Wouldn't see if I got a reaction out of him there
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Mason
I was just seeing how many PG-13 movies I have on my list.
00:06:34
Zack
I would say, I mean, I think there's some Pixar, so that'll be rated GPG. I would say eight of 10. I would say eight of the 11 or PG-13. I would say zero rated R movies, 3G slash PG.
00:06:51
nextguyup
But doing to isn't doing to are Okay, oh Well, I think it's on the list cuz Mason just went to go see if it was what was rated So I saw him look on his list when I asked that question You you look somewhere specifically on the list I saw you look down and go I
00:07:05
Zack
Doesn't get doesn't get called by me. Okay. Well, we've already got four of the pigs.
00:07:07
Mason
I'm just I'm just looking at the list So I do want to give hats off to you guys you've been ah basically
00:07:09
Zack
It just depends on where they're at he was looking for Okay, Mason, I think it's time let's start at number 11
00:07:29
Mason
friends with me for over 10 years, so you kind of you you nailed some of those. We'll find out which ones you nailed. Let's kick off 11 just because I feel like I would have regrets leaving off this series altogether.
00:07:44
Mason
and Number 11 is going to be Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Ring.
00:07:50
Mason
Had to go with that one, a 2001 film.
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Zack
Have you watched all of them before?
Debate on Mason's Movie Choices
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Mason
Yeah. So the Hobbit took the longest for me to watch.
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Mason
Those are like three plus hours and they're very slow.
00:08:04
Mason
I will say that these took, uh, these are a lot quicker to watch. It's been a minute since I've seen this one, but I, yeah, it's iconic.
00:08:12
Zack
Hmm. That's critically acclaimed. Yeah, that's a good movie.
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Mason
And if you're doing the IMBD, uh, DB, whatever it is, 8.9 out of 10, there you go.
00:08:22
Zack
Yeah, 8.9. That's it. That's pretty good. OK, number 10. This is the real list now.
00:08:31
Mason
number 10 pirates of the caribbean on stranger's tides number four johnny depp plananelope cruz uh black beard ian mcshane but this one so ever i just wasn't a fan of like
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Mason
Uh, I forget her name, but Elizabeth and the Orlando bloom characters a little bit. I liked where they kind of went off of this one. Better action for me.
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Mason
Uh, this one, the fountain of youth.
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Mason
So this one's my top 10.
00:09:08
Zack
That's a 6.6 IMDB. That's a take. I think the first one is pretty good. Actually, I i like like the first one.
00:09:16
Mason
First one's good. Yeah.
00:09:19
Zack
I don't know about the fourth one.
00:09:19
Mason
Okay. Oh Zach you need to see it.
00:09:20
Zack
I'm not sure I've actually seen the fourth one. you have to if that one Okay.
00:09:23
Mason
All right movie night Okay This one well when we do the movie night, this is the first one we'll watch Everybody ready for this Fast five From the fast and furious movies.
00:09:27
Zack
Let's watch it. Let me live tweet it. Okay. Yup.
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Mason
ah This is the first one with the Wayne Wade Dwayne Roger
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Mason
ah tur Dwayne The Rock Johnson. It's got The Rock in it. 2011 film. So far we're all on the PG-13. What's wrong with everybody?
00:10:00
nextguyup
No, nothing. no You're good. You're good.
00:10:00
Mason
Everybody looks confused.
00:10:02
Mason
okay Yeah, I said the wrong person.
00:10:02
nextguyup
that's ah I was just confused about Duane Wade.
00:10:05
nextguyup
I don't think he's made a movie yet.
00:10:08
Mason
ah This one is Listen action action packed from the very beginning. They're like in Mexico or something and they do a heist so they robbed this ginormous um Part of the bank that has all the money in it At the very end, they're being chased.
00:10:27
Mason
They pull this guy. This guy, I'm a little rattled for some reason. I think I'm just nervous. So this guy is like a drug lord and he has all this like dirty money and they take the, um, the money from him, but they are taking this on by two cars and they're being chased.
00:10:45
Mason
Well, they end up having the vault left on the bridge, but then they switched it out while they were being chased.
00:10:51
Zack
I was going to watch this.
00:10:53
Mason
oh Dang it. I just I literally just spoiled it for you and the entire world Fast five.
00:10:57
Zack
This is fast five, right?
00:10:59
Mason
Yeah, I Did not that's a good year right there.
00:10:59
Zack
You just pick two movies in a row that are from 2011.
00:11:03
nextguyup
Big year for movies for Mason.
00:11:05
Mason
Yeah, I was in I wasn't I was a junior in high school.
00:11:07
Zack
Junior in high school.
00:11:09
Mason
Yeah Paul Walker Vin Diesel the rock Yeah
00:11:10
Zack
Hmm. OK. Fast five, seven point three IMDB.
00:11:19
nextguyup
this is This is when the Fast Five ah franchise, or the Fast and Furious franchise starts being ridiculous.
Conclusion of Movie List Discussion
00:11:28
Mason
Oh, I thought you meant like took off.
00:11:30
nextguyup
No, like this is when
00:11:30
Zack
The first one's like street racing and then it just escalates.
00:11:33
Mason
It's got the, it's got the woman that is in, uh, that's, uh, not super woman.
00:11:33
nextguyup
to them being superheroes with cars.
00:11:44
Mason
Wonder woman. Yeah. Thank you.
00:11:47
nextguyup
I know I didn't say her name right, but.
00:11:49
Mason
Close enough. Ludacris. It's a good movie. Okay.
00:11:55
Mason
How are we feeling, everybody?
00:11:57
Zack
This is exactly what I was expecting.
00:12:01
Zack
You have um the fifth movie and fourth movie in various properties.
00:12:09
Mason
Okay, so my next movie is this number eight.
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Mason
Number eight is the first movie, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
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Mason
nothing beats the first of bringing this whole series in it's very it's very innocent you can um well it's more innocent than until the well you know what i mean it's more it's not as dark as they tend to get but uh this one
00:12:27
nextguyup
It's very innocent.
00:12:32
Zack
until Harry murders the guy with his hands at the end.
00:12:42
nextguyup
ah Once again, Harry murders a guy.
00:12:43
Zack
Like I was ah smartt growing on the back of a guy's head.
00:12:49
Mason
Listen this one is not a holiday movie, but I feel like you could watch them during either Halloween or Christmas Well, yeah, they have a 20-minute like Halloween section in there and a Christmas section ah So it's a it's it's a good movie Well, I enjoy this movie this is my list I
00:12:55
Zack
It's essentially a Christmas movie, yeah.
00:13:07
Zack
Great. So, so far you're just going with big IP is, is really your list.
00:13:13
nextguyup
Not surprising.
00:13:14
Zack
All four, all four of them. Okay. It's your list. I'm just saying all four of them, part of large franchises, IP.
00:13:20
nextguyup
No small budget films out here.
00:13:23
Mason
So this one, speaking of a small budget film, the next one is Star Wars Episode 3, Revenge of the Sith. This is the top tier of all the Star Wars movies.
00:13:35
Mason
I don't care what anybody else has to say.
00:13:38
Mason
This one is the best when it comes to some of the more famous scenes. I have the higher ground. ah I hate you! Some of those things, you know, Anakin, and turning into Vader, thank you.
00:13:48
Zack
Mm-hmm. Good voice work.
00:13:52
Mason
I really got that for my soul, so there we go.
00:13:55
Zack
I said a text to the group earlier, and I said, Mason, how many of your picks are sequels? So far, we're five for five, I think.
00:14:04
Mason
Also, p g third PG I'm pretty sure, I don't think Sorcerer's Stone is PG-13.
00:14:04
Zack
Yeah, well, there's a first one.
00:14:08
Zack
I think you're five for five as well. No, Sorcerer's Stone's not. You're right.
00:14:13
Mason
Yeah, four for five.
00:14:13
Zack
It's PG. Some of the past or the more later movies are definitely PG-13.
00:14:20
nextguyup
umm I'm kind of surprised. I didn't think you'd have a Star Wars on here, honestly.
00:14:26
Mason
Uh, so my brother was more of the Star Wars. I did not care a whole lot. And then once I started rewatching them, I was like, you know what? This one's the best one and I like this one a lot. So.
00:14:36
nextguyup
I agree. I agree with that. I think number three is the best one.
00:14:40
Mason
Would this be in your top 10?
00:14:43
nextguyup
Uh, yeah, it would be mine.
00:14:46
Mason
Wow. Okay. So number, number six, are we ready?
00:14:52
Mason
I think everybody can agree on this one. ah We've talked about this movie in the past. I think it will be in both of your top 10 and that is 2008, The Dark Knight.
00:15:04
Zack
That's in my top 10 for sure.
00:15:05
nextguyup
Yeah, for sure.
00:15:06
Mason
This one crushed it on like nine out of 10 on IMDB 94 Rotten Tomatoes.
00:15:13
Mason
I think it won a lot of awards as well. ah Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, um Morgan Freeman,
00:15:23
Mason
Silly Murphy? Cecilia Murphy? Forget about Scarecrow a little bit.
00:15:28
Mason
Is that not how you say his name?
00:15:33
nextguyup
Sicilian so east for precisely I'm gonna
00:15:35
Zack
He is from Sicily. Sicilian Murphy. That's such a different.
00:15:43
Zack
That would be funny. I think it's just yeah. Oppenheimer.
00:15:49
Mason
Oppenheimer, correct.
00:15:49
Zack
There's a lot more on your list.
00:15:52
Mason
no it is not it is not on my list we're halfway through the list can you believe it everybody this is
00:15:53
Zack
Oh, OK, so big IP continues part of a trilogy and Batman movie. Are we going to 11? Let's make a prediction now before. What number are you on?
00:16:07
Zack
Are we going to think we're going to be 100 percent IP movies like.
00:16:13
Zack
Is there going to be any standalone projects on this list?
00:16:16
nextguyup
we We haven't even got any Pixar yet so.
00:16:19
Mason
Speaking of standalone project number five is Transformers the 2007 the best transformers out of any it's not a standalone project.
00:16:29
Zack
how's that stand button Okay.
00:16:29
Mason
I was I was making a joke It's the best one I don't care what that horrible ah The ah trailer for this new transformers one it's incorrect Yeah, and they didn't believe me and I had to take a picture of it because it was on during the Monday night football game
00:16:41
Zack
Best Transformers. It said it.
00:16:48
Zack
It has to be true. They said it.
00:16:51
nextguyup
can't say things that aren't true on TV.
00:16:52
Mason
Not true Another pg-13 movie by the way charlotte buff megan fox It's ah i'm not kidding Watch it and you will say where has cgi gone from here.
00:17:06
Mason
It's gotten worse This was the prime this and one more movie i'm about to mention.
00:17:10
Mason
It was the prime of cgi Was I missing oh
00:17:12
nextguyup
Did you not want to name off more people from the Transformers movies?
00:17:18
nextguyup
I don't know. I don't know. I just want to I just like when you start reading off cast members Yeah, I think I'm gonna Photoshop him in like some Italian garb and just eating pasta
00:17:23
Zack
That you don't know. Cecilia Murphy.
00:17:30
Zack
He needs spaghetti, yeah.
00:17:37
Mason
Okay. That was number five. So I put it not just in my top 10, but my top five.
00:17:39
Zack
Great take, Mason. Top four. We know two of them, so...
00:17:43
Mason
I don't know what you're talking about. Okay. Number four, speaking of some of the best CGI and effects, it's going to have to be avatar.
00:17:56
Zack
I thought you didn't like this movie is it 10 doesn't like ever sorry Oh,
00:17:58
Mason
No, I like it. I never,
00:18:01
nextguyup
It's all I don't like is I'm over it.
00:18:04
Zack
he's over it Okay, okay
00:18:04
nextguyup
I'm over the 12 year wait period.
00:18:04
Mason
I didn't watch Way of Water. Yeah, I just kind of forgot that Way of the Water was a thing. i never I've not even seen it yet. But I think what happened was is because we had such this big gap, then expectations were set so high for something that just wasn't going to reach it.
00:18:20
Mason
Just like Marvel after the greatest movies of all time happened, they've just not been able to reach that again.
00:18:27
Mason
I don't know what you guys are shaking your head for, but number four, how are we doing on my list, everybody? Listeners, are we liking this?
00:18:33
nextguyup
I thought there'd be even more Pixar, honestly.
00:18:36
Zack
You're asking the listeners for feedback?
00:18:39
Zack
really He said, listeners, are we liking this?
00:18:39
nextguyup
is We don't have a lot of chat, brother.
00:18:42
Zack
Put it in the chat. How do you think I'm doing?
00:18:47
Mason
So... Let's talk about listeners. Give me some feedback. Y'all in your car right now if I'm doing a good job.
00:18:52
nextguyup
like it They can join the Discord and say how much they like or dislike it.
00:18:56
Zack
That's true. you should Everyone, join the Discord. Call out, Mason.
00:19:01
Mason
Or hype me up, whatever one you choose.
00:19:01
Zack
OK, I love you guys, Mason. You're doing great work so far.
00:19:04
Mason
Thank you. Okay, I had to pick this movie. And you guys know me so well.
00:19:10
Mason
92% on Rotten Tomatoes. It's a more maybe recency bias. I'm not sure, but I love best action scenes out of any, oh no, my internet.
00:19:23
nextguyup
We're good, just keep going.
00:19:26
Mason
Part one was such a setup. It was so slow.
00:19:30
Mason
I was like falling asleep and they had to build up the plot.
00:19:34
Mason
Very little action. This one, not even kidding. Like, just go watch it. The action scenes, some of the non-action is just kind of, just go watch it.
00:19:41
nextguyup
Just go watch it.
00:19:44
Mason
You'll know what I'm talking about. It's so good.
00:19:46
nextguyup
This little gym, Dune 2. I know you guys out there probably haven't seen it, but just go give it a chance.
00:19:50
Zack
little of an independent movie.
00:19:54
nextguyup
Everyone in America has seen it.
00:19:57
Mason
Timothy Chalamet, Florence Pugh, Austin Butler, Zendaya.
00:20:00
nextguyup
Her name's Adya.
00:20:04
Zack
I just like all your names off all the people off IMDP's website. just see Just go see the cast and just start listing your names.
00:20:17
Mason
Christopher walking in. I forgot about that guy.
00:20:29
Mason
So this, that was top, that was three. So we're down to the final two.
00:20:34
Mason
Yeah. I know this is, we've, we've enjoyed it so much.
00:20:35
Zack
Okay, which is number one.
00:20:37
Mason
You guys didn't realize how we're getting to the end of the list here already. It's sad moment for everybody. Maybe I should do a top and top 20.
00:20:45
Zack
I would be shocked if these two aren't what we all think they are.
00:20:49
Mason
Okay. So, and we, I have switched back and forth on this probably ever since these movies have came out.
00:20:50
Zack
Shocked the world mason.
00:20:56
Mason
I'm not even kidding. And i've so I woke up one time like three o'clock in the morning just like, is this one better than the other? I'm not sure. Then I had to turn it on. I was like, this one's better.
00:21:05
nextguyup
These are live squid right here.
00:21:09
Mason
Number two is Avengers Infinity War by a slim margin.
00:21:16
Mason
It breaks my heart. But I just have to, one of the best movies of it actually ends not in a happy, every movie always has, most of them at least, has a happy ending.
00:21:18
Zack
What what it take a of the movies you watched, too.
00:21:29
Mason
This one I was like, wait, that can't be it. Yeah, usually. But this one was like, that can't just be all of it. And that was how it ended. But number one, and the only reason is just because of the war scene is one of the most iconic and best war scenes or best action scenes of any movie ever.
00:21:49
Mason
And that is Avengers Endgame.
00:21:54
Mason
The Avengers Assemble, them coming out of the portals, the battle, Iron Man, just, yeah, mary there we are.
00:22:06
Mason
It's sad that this list has already ended. I don't have a purpose in life anymore. With like, what's my purpose now?
00:22:14
Mason
Should we do a top 100?
00:22:16
Zack
So you were 11 for 11, big IP.
00:22:22
nextguyup
There's a hundred percent. Sure.
00:22:24
Zack
which Which of your picks is not IP?
00:22:29
Mason
You're right. Yep, 11 for 11, you're right. but
00:22:35
Mason
Tough. Well, no, it's not a tough break. You know what?
00:22:39
Mason
I picked a list that everybody at least heard and knew of. Not a, I didn't pick, I didn't pick something that someone's like, you know what?
00:22:43
Zack
That's true. I've seen all of them. Now, parts of the Caribbean.
00:22:48
Mason
I've never heard of that movie in my life. Yeah. You gotta see, you gotta go see strangers tied.
00:22:52
Zack
I'm actually not sure if I've seen Fast Five either, to be honest with you.
00:22:56
nextguyup
I know I have it.
00:22:58
Mason
Tense. No, it's good. Literally all the way from start to the finish.
00:23:05
Zack
Actually, I haven't seen Doom 2 either. I should probably watch that.
00:23:09
nextguyup
You know, I think Mason should have to watch all these movies in order.
00:23:15
Mason
Like from 11 down to one.
00:23:17
Zack
In one day, the punishment
00:23:17
Mason
I'll do this in a heartbeat.
00:23:19
nextguyup
As his March Madness punishment.
00:23:21
Zack
Like you can't stop.
00:23:22
Zack
You can't get off the couch until all 11 movies are done. You can't leave your house.
00:23:28
nextguyup
Yep, can't can't sleep.
00:23:28
Mason
I was gonna say what happens if I had to use the bathroom.
00:23:31
Zack
It's like 24. It's like that would probably be like 30 hours.
00:23:33
Mason
But these are all like the best movies ever created on planet earth.
00:23:37
Zack
And game in favor of like six hours, just them two.
00:23:38
Mason
So yeah, I'd be okay with that.
00:23:43
Mason
How do, how do we get this as proof though?
00:23:46
Zack
A live feed of your house with you and living or watching it.
00:23:50
nextguyup
Yeah, you got to go live from our YouTube.
00:23:56
nextguyup
Be Electric Factory.
00:24:01
nextguyup
We've got to punish this guy.
00:24:01
Mason
it's kind of Can we give like an overall grade of my top 11?
00:24:08
Mason
I wanna see how I did. Okay, go ahead everybody. Everybody listening, give your grade right now. Go ahead and shot it.
00:24:14
nextguyup
Just say it in your cars.
00:24:17
nextguyup
Leave it as a review on Spotify.
00:24:20
Zack
Put it in the chat. um
00:24:31
Mason
This is good. Nice pause in there for.
00:24:34
Zack
I'm trying to think of a rank. How do I rank this? I think I give you a. Chalk out of 10.
00:24:42
Zack
You just picked all of the biggest franchises of all time and just picked one movie from each one and put it in your list.
00:24:49
Mason
But here's the thing.
00:24:50
Zack
11 biggest franchises that are out there in movies and then just picked one movie from each one or two for Avengers Sure oh Sure making me a favorite movies I'm just saying that it was
00:24:56
Mason
So there was no like rules on this. I picked what I enjoy the most. These are movies that I have, all that I've seen and I could, some of them I can even tell you line by line in game. Uh, yeah. Chalk, very chalky. Yeah.
00:25:14
Zack
It was just, I mean, and it's a good strategy because I mean, they're the most popular movies um of all time for a reason. That's because a lot of people have watched them and they're good.
00:25:22
Mason
Fast Five was not chalk.
00:25:23
Zack
Like none of them are bad movies.
00:25:25
nextguyup
I give you a C-plus.
00:25:27
Zack
I predicted you were going to pick a Fast and Furious movie.
00:25:31
nextguyup
I think you picked the wrong Fast Five, or Fast, I keep wanting to say Fast Five. The wrong Fast and Furious movie.
00:25:38
Mason
Was it the first one?
00:25:38
Zack
I you picked the wrong Harry Potter movie for sure.
00:25:41
nextguyup
And the wrong Harry Potter, yeah.
00:25:43
Zack
I think Goblet of Fire is the best part of me, but that's me.
00:25:47
nextguyup
Other parts are Caribbean, I think. i think ah
00:25:50
Zack
I think one is my favorite.
00:25:52
nextguyup
Yeah, one or three.
00:25:56
Zack
Yeah, another Crust of the Black Pearl.
00:26:00
Mason
That one's the second one is deadman's chest.
00:26:00
Zack
What? That's like your introduction to Jack Sparrow and um Star Wars is there.
00:26:08
Zack
You could have some people argue with you that, but it's fine.
00:26:13
Zack
Um, transformers are just, if there was one I was going to throw out immediately, it would be transformers.
00:26:21
nextguyup
Yeah, it doesn't make my top 10. It is good though. I mean, it's definitely a Mason movie.
00:26:24
Zack
It's fine. Yeah, it's fine.
00:26:28
Mason
But is it the best transformers out of any of them?
00:26:31
Mason
Yes. 100%. Even this future cartoon one.
00:26:34
Zack
Is that the question? Is that like the
00:26:41
Mason
That just got me so fired up. And the person was, what was it?
00:26:45
Mason
It was like some website that I could have created in 15 minutes and just said, best transformers movie of all time.
00:26:52
nextguyup
I got a lot of content on there. I think i don't think you can make it in 15 minutes.
00:26:56
Zack
I think fellowship of the ring is good, but I think return of the king is probably the best of those and um What was the other you had another But I like having that on the list though I like having if I think Lord of the Rings deserves a spawn a list on my list I
00:27:13
Mason
I think, I think if some of them had like a slight, I was wanting to just go with the original because I was like, well, that's where it all started. But I was also thinking I would see that a hundred times.
00:27:26
Mason
Like I would be up to watching that right now. That's the, that's the question I asked myself.
00:27:31
Mason
I was like, if I had to just watch this all the time, like if it just was like no question about it, if it just got thrown on the TV, would I just sit there and watch it?
00:27:39
Zack
I think Dark Knight's a good pick as well.
00:27:46
Zack
OK, great work, Mason.
00:27:48
Mason
Appreciate it, everybody.
00:27:49
Zack
Great list. Look, you you're staying true to you. I respect it. That's your list.
00:27:58
nextguyup
No one else will have that same list.
00:27:58
Zack
Respect. No one in the world.
00:28:05
Zack
That's what makes it special. OK, we have football this
College Football System Games Analysis
00:28:11
Zack
weekend, fellas. A lot of football.
00:28:14
nextguyup
Lots of football Yeah He was running around
00:28:17
Zack
Um, if you missed our reactions to last week's last weekend's football, you can check out Monday's pod. We did a full reaction to all things. NFL and college tens was sad. Me and Mason were sad. Everyone was sad. So if you want to see sad tens, check out that pod. Um, we're all coming back though. It's fine.
00:28:46
Zack
This week, we have some pretty big matchups in college. I think that's where we're going to kick this conversation off. ah We are going to talk some college football. Now, this see this ah ah this week three is traditionally a little bit of a softer schedule.
00:29:01
Zack
um The fact that game day is going to be at LSU at South Carolina, a little bit of an indictment on the week that we have ahead of us, I will say what is not soft, the system.
00:29:15
Zack
ah the system Let's just get this out of the way now. The system was 3-0 last week. It was hot.
00:29:21
nextguyup
Big time three.
00:29:22
Zack
on some So that's on spreads, but two of them were money i hit the money lines. This week, we have a whopping eight system games coming at you.
00:29:34
Zack
Holy cow. So that's eight of the 25 ranked teams are on the road against unranked teams. This is what we have classified as a system game. Let me list them for you with their respective spreads and we're going to talk about a few of them here in a second Oklahoma state at tulsa minus 18 and a half lsu at south carolina minus seven That's the most interesting one in my opinion Alabama at wisconsin minus 16 oregon at oregon state minus 16 and a half
00:30:08
Zack
Notre Dame at Purdue, minus 10. That line's way smaller than it would have been a week ago. Utah at Utah State, minus 20. Ole Miss at Wake Forest, minus 22 and a half. And Georgia at Kentucky. My pick for the money line there. Just kidding. That is not my pick. Minus 24. Kentucky is terrible at football, it turns out. Who knew? Not me.
00:30:36
Zack
I hope you didn't listen to my picks last week. So we have eight system games to look at. um I will be taking all of them, just for the record, for the spreads. And so we've got some, it's a big week for the system 10s. You see any games there on that spread that or that list that you think are pretty interesting, you think could go the full way and get the upset?
00:31:03
nextguyup
I don't South Carolina I think I think South Carolina is interesting to me just because How they looked last week now granted it might speak Kentucky just might be bad But South Carolina's is feisty and they've got a quarterback who can make plays with his feet and that's always a dangerous element When you got a guy who can run around a little bit?
00:31:04
Zack
There's some big spreads. Yeah.
00:31:12
Zack
Very interesting. Very well could be.
00:31:29
Zack
That defensive lineman as well for South Carolina is ah a man.
00:31:33
Zack
I don't know if you know his name.
00:31:34
Zack
He's a freshman. He's a menace to society.
00:31:37
Zack
He was getting like triple teamed.
00:31:39
nextguyup
And that's. Yeah, and that's the thing. My big thing for College football is if you can have a difference maker on your defensive line in a quarterback who can make plays with his feet and his arm.
00:31:51
nextguyup
You're pretty much, you know, that's two big ingredients to me, because those are like game changing positions so. They're probably my like my favorite to kind of think, well, maybe they do have a chance at the upset.
00:32:04
nextguyup
The rest of them, some of those lines are pretty big. um I know I'm a very big believer in the system, but there's a couple of spots where I'm like, ooh, Vegas might have vegas my be tempting us to take the system and we might need to stay away.
00:32:21
Zack
Which one are you talking about?
00:32:23
nextguyup
um That Tulsa game,
00:32:26
nextguyup
I think Oklahoma State is really good. I think they kind of got caught.
00:32:31
nextguyup
Like thinking they had an easy matchup with Arkansas and then Arkansas came out firing. They do have a very good player that running back his last names Williams is like JJ Williams.
00:32:43
nextguyup
He is a big playmaker, but once they kind of figured him out, you saw what happened. They, they came back 21 points and then ended up covering, but I think Oklahoma state's a very good team. Uh, I think, I think that might've been a little bit of a wake up call and Gundy's gonna have the boys fired up to go put on a show in Tulsa.
00:33:06
Zack
It could be. I think Bama, Wisconsin is very interesting. I think ah personally, I believe this is going to be a get right game for Alabama here after last week.
00:33:15
Zack
They had a very tough matchup. I guess a very honestly a pretty good team in USF. I think um I think Alabama plays much better this week.
00:33:26
Zack
I think Millrow kind of gets back to his to his game.
00:33:29
Zack
I think Wisconsin is just not a very good team overall. I think um I think Alabama should have their way with the Wisconsin. I think they can, I think they're going to cover that 16 point spread.
00:33:41
Zack
Oregon at Oregon State is another one that you start, that's a rivalry game. Um, I think they call it the civil war actually there in Oregon.
00:33:49
nextguyup
They used to, they're not allowed to anymore.
00:33:51
Zack
Oh, oops. Does she just canceled?
00:33:54
nextguyup
Not very politically correct.
00:33:57
Zack
Okay. Chat, tell us if we're canceled or not. Um, so Oregon at Oregon state, I think is another get right potential. I thought that week two for Oregon as well.
00:34:08
Zack
Oregon is now had two pretty big duds of games to start the season.
00:34:11
Zack
I think the big question mark there is, are they going to continue to get better throughout the season? Is their team going to continue to gel and they're going to become better overall product or are they going to continue to struggle against lesser competition?
00:34:25
Zack
And then when they meet in Ohio state or Michigan, are they going to crumble under that? I don't know. I personally think what Oregon probably wins this pretty big, but it's a rivalry game on the road and the system. And so we all know how that goes. I think that's a very dangerous spot for Oregon.
00:34:42
nextguyup
I think, so I don't know, I don't know pretty much anything about Oregon State. I was pretty plugged into them last year.
00:34:48
nextguyup
I had taken some futures. Anyway, they didn't leave. They're still part of the Pac-12. They've been in Washington State, haven't found a home yet. I couldn't even tell you who the head coach is. The head coach from last year took the job at Michigan State, took everyone with him, including the five-star quarterback he had recruited who is playing well at Michigan State so far. I don't know what to think about this team, but what is the spread? Is it like,
00:35:18
Zack
It is 16 and a half.
00:35:21
nextguyup
I just think that the way Oregon has looked, that i don't i don't think they I don't think they're gonna get it right. I think Oregon State has so much pride in the fact that they didn't leave the Big 12.
00:35:33
nextguyup
And these players feel disrespected that everyone felt like they had to go to a different conference to
00:35:40
nextguyup
gain any kind of no, art no, I'm not gonna try that one anymore. You know what I'm trying to say. ah So I think they're gonna keep it on the ground and control the clock and just kind of ground and pound like what Oregon State has done in the past. And this, I think this will be a close game.
00:35:59
nextguyup
early game up in Oregon, the fans are going to be fired up and Oregon just hasn't looked good yet. Like Dylan Gabriel has not looked like the Heisman favorite that he was going into the season.
00:36:15
Zack
Yeah, I agree. And the question is, is there going to be a point in the season where he turns corner and it's like, oh, we're better than this. We're going to start playing. It's the question mark. I don't know. The last game with a pretty tight spread here is the Notre Dame at Purdue. Notre Dame obviously lost last weekend to a team they should not have lost to. Now they're returning back to their schedule, knowing they have to be perfect, essentially, if they would like a playoff spot.
00:36:45
Zack
Um, this is a literally can't lose game or basically your season's over. 10 points on the road at Purdue is pretty soft for a team that was ranked to number five last week.
00:36:58
Zack
So it's, it's a pretty interesting one to look at. Um, I think Notre Dame wins this one. I don't think they lose two in a row here. Um, but it's 10 points is not a ton.
00:37:14
nextguyup
ah But i don't I don't know how much Purdue's crowd really has ever been. I don't know how much of a home field advantage there they have.
00:37:24
Zack
There's a question. Yeah.
00:37:27
Zack
I mean, I think whether they'll show out for Notre Dame, I think is the question. I think there there will be bigger than average for sure.
00:37:36
nextguyup
I mean, they have a solid, like,
00:37:37
Zack
I don't know if it'll be enough to change the landscape of the game or not.
00:37:41
nextguyup
right. I mean, they've got a solid quarterback. He was the starter last year. i Hudson Card, he had transferred from Texas. I mean, it was a big time recruit. He started off, they've only played one game so far, but, and it was against somebody very bad, but he went 24 for 25 for 273 yards and four touchdowns, so.
00:38:03
nextguyup
I don't know, this Notre Dame team is kind of soft in my opinion.
00:38:07
Zack
Some people are saying.
00:38:09
nextguyup
So I think 10's a lot of points, 10 and a half is like, and that's the magical number too, because I do get the hook there.
00:38:18
nextguyup
So I might jump on Purdue, but I don't know, I'm on the fence right there. because Notre Dame has to bounce back, right?
00:38:30
nextguyup
And in theory, this would be the game where they'd like, the whole world is going to be on Purdue because of what just happened. And so what's going to happen naturally is Notre Dame is going to win by 60.
00:38:43
nextguyup
Right. I mean, that's like, that's what happens. And then yeah ESPN or DraftKings tweets out the thing, like 96% of all the bets were on Purdue plus 10 and then Notre Dame smashes them. Like that's just, like, that's where my head goes.
00:38:58
Zack
Yeah, it does happen most of the time. I think a similar situation with Alabama was con it's like.
00:39:05
Zack
But I just don't see. I see Bama getting locked in. I've been pretty vocal by the fact that I think Alabama is is much less of a team than they were last year or in previous years.
00:39:19
Zack
I don't think they're bad enough to make this competitive with Wisconsin. That's my tip.
00:39:23
Zack
You're always going to play better. So that's where we're at there. We have a couple of other interesting games around the league. I think we're just going to briefly talk about here. Um, one.
00:39:35
Zack
is kind of a game in the dredges of the SEC at this point in the season. A and&M is traveling to Florida. The line is A and&M minus four.
00:39:53
Zack
what do you What do you think about that line?
00:39:54
nextguyup
So, okay, so this is where I'm at with Florida is, is that Billy is going to do the thing. He's going to start the freshman quarterback who, and yep.
00:40:06
Zack
He's been on the record saying he's going to play both quarterbacks.
00:40:10
nextguyup
Yeah. He's going to say that. And what's going to happen is the alternate series and lagway will score a touchdown and Mertz will turn, turn the ball over and then it will be a lagway from there out.
00:40:23
nextguyup
And Lataway is a good player. She's very athletic.
00:40:28
nextguyup
i I, and in this Texas A&M team, I want nothing to do with. I honestly, I wasn't high on them coming into the year. I, in my opinion, you don't go and hire an old defensive coordinator to be your head coach in the SEC. It's a big reason I'm not a big fan of ah Oklahoma's head coach. i You gotta get an offensive guy in there, someone creative, someone to bring in recruits.
00:40:54
nextguyup
um So I don't love that higher anyway. um So I'm pretty low on A&M.
00:41:01
Zack
Yeah, Wegman has just not looked great so far.
00:41:09
Zack
I will go on record saying I'm not betting on this game because I will never bet on Florida ever again. After week one, what happened? I will say that. This is a game, I think.
00:41:22
Zack
See, I'm saying it again is why I'm not betting is because I'm delusional. On paper, you think the swamp is going to get if they get a couple of scores, the swamps going to get loud to make it a hard environment.
00:41:34
Zack
um A fun fact for you guys, maybe you've heard the stats this week.
00:41:38
Zack
Do you know how many away games that Texas A&M has lost? True road games. Texas A&M has lost in a row.
00:41:48
nextguyup
Let's go with seven.
00:41:50
Zack
It's 10. They've not won a true road game since 2021.
00:41:55
Zack
Two full seasons where the road games lost.
00:42:00
nextguyup
Don't like that stat.
00:42:00
Zack
They're not good on the road. The Swamp, it it despite how disappointing it's been so far for Florida fans, it's a big match up. The fans are going to want to see Lagway. If Lagway gets hot, they are going it's the same way last year where every time Nico got the ball in Newland Stadium, everyone freaked out and it was pandemonium.
00:42:22
Zack
This starting lagway this year is the equivalent of hypo playing nico last year if he had started nico If we lost a big game early and it was like, okay, let's just make a change It's the equivalent situation and the fans are gonna want to see lagway and if he gets in and he looks good They're gonna get their hope back And they're gonna get jacked up and it's gonna be a really tough environment to play in for a team who i'm still in just
00:42:49
Zack
A team that just lost an Notre Dame and the Notre Dame win lost the next week.
00:42:55
Zack
And so it's like what? How good is this team actually? Unknown.
00:43:01
nextguyup
Uh, I think bad, I think.
00:43:03
Zack
Is Miami actually just really good team potentially?
00:43:07
nextguyup
Miami might be pretty good. They, they blew somebody out, like embarrassed them by 50.
00:43:13
Zack
So that's the that's it. I'm not touchy. I'm just going to go on record and say I'm not betting on this game. I kind of like Florida to to make a big statement here and get just use their home field advantage. This is not a system game because A&M is not ranked. I'm going on record saying it's I don't like this spread.
00:43:34
nextguyup
i I think Florida finds its way on my card come Saturday.
00:43:40
Zack
It's an interesting bit. If they hadn't burned me so bad in week one, I would definitely consider it.
00:43:44
nextguyup
Yeah, but i do I do think that if if it goes bad Saturday, i don't know how but I don't know how he makes it past the Monday press conference.
00:43:54
Zack
Yeah, I think it's if they get smacked on on saturday in neeland or in the swamp.
00:43:56
nextguyup
it It's gotta be done.
00:44:00
Zack
It's going to be tough agree Um, okay, so The only game we haven't mentioned yet. That's that's a Ranked it's one of the only ranked on ranked.
00:44:10
Zack
I just I don't have a lot to say but these teens tens, but we can mention it at least uh, kansas state, arizona friday night game Uh, number 20, Arizona, number 14, Kansas state, Kansas state, darn near lost to Tulane last week. Uh, and so this is a pretty interesting, uh, matchup here. Do you have any thoughts about Arizona, Kansas state?
00:44:36
nextguyup
I like Arizona Fisk, who took the Washington job, was Arizona's coach last year, right? He had built a good program.
00:44:45
nextguyup
Had ah this quarterback, I can't say he's got one of these really fun last names, can't say.
00:44:51
nextguyup
um He really thought he was gonna get all these guys to transfer to Washington with him and they didn't, they stayed. Arizona still has a pretty solid team.
00:45:02
nextguyup
I like Arizona. um I think they have playmakers at all levels. And I think Kansas State, I think they got a, Rank a number next to their name before the season for some reason and it's just kind of just still there but I Just don't think they're very I just don't think they're a very good team So I think I think they're on upset alert once again I know it's kind of it's hard to pick one of these teams like Kansas State that plays in a big conference It's ranked to say oh, they're gonna lose two in a row because that just doesn't really happen that much in college football But I think Arizona
00:45:36
nextguyup
has everything they can to to give them that upset. So I like Arizona here. They're definitely gonna be on the card.
00:45:44
Zack
Okay, I like it. I will say just to wrap up this college section, the theme of the week that you can watch for is definitely going to be ranked teams playing on the road um this week. I think we're going to see at least one or two big time upsets in the system plays. I'm not going to say we're going to go A for eight and money line upsets. It's just not going to happen. But if you're looking for
00:46:11
Zack
some Some upsets there. I think it's typically our system play is you take the spread and then you take like half a unit or a quarter of a unit on money line because if it hits and it's ah a 16-point underdog that wins, it's a pretty big payout.
00:46:25
Zack
So that's where we're going to be on the system.
00:46:29
Zack
That's how the system works here. I foresee us being in the positives. We're already three and two. I think we went at least five of these. So I think it we're we're predicting a big week for this for the system.
00:46:43
Zack
Okay, 10s, you anything else college wise before we pass it off to the NFL?
00:46:47
nextguyup
No, that's I think I think that was a good cherry on top.
00:46:50
nextguyup
Make sure you're in the discord so you can keep up with all the system plays for college football.
00:46:56
nextguyup
I think the college card is going to be a little bit hot and heavier than the NFL card this weekend for me personally.
00:47:03
Zack
Hmm. There you go. Okay.
NFL Game Previews and Betting Strategies
00:47:09
nextguyup
Alright, so we're gonna kind of do what we did last week.
00:47:09
Zack
Love it. Great work.
00:47:13
nextguyup
We're not going to break down every game like we've talked about with NFL. There's just me and Mason like to follow the storylines and kind of talk about the news and things that's happening around the league and then make sure you are in the discord for our picks.
00:47:29
nextguyup
and NFL lines move so much that in my opinion if you're not If you're not going to take them with us when we give them, they're probably not worth, I mean, they just move so much. I mean, we saw some where I gave some out ah for the weekend on Thursday night and they had moved like multiple yards. So it's just, you got to make sure you're in there to follow our picks. Now granted, you wouldn't have wanted been there last week for my NFL picks. Cause it was not, I started off good. It started off three and one and then a disaster happened.
00:48:00
nextguyup
So ah Mason, where where let's let's kick off NFL um this weekend. I know we've got a game. If you listen to this on Thursday morning, there's a game tonight. The nature of The Beast is you're probably not gonna hear us talking too much about the Thursday night games and the Monday night games.
00:48:17
nextguyup
It's just part of it, because the we can only preview so much. So um if if you wanna hear or see any picks we have for that, that's what the Discord is for.
00:48:26
nextguyup
But looking at Sunday's slate, it's a very weird slate. like I'm looking through the matchups. There's a lot of teams. I'm like, oh, I'm not used to those. like Those two teams don't play each other. like what It's a weird schedule this week.
00:48:45
nextguyup
Now you guys just.
00:48:45
Mason
Were you asked, were you asking what games I was looking at that are kind of weird like that?
00:48:48
nextguyup
Yeah, I was gonna say so. Yeah, i like well that and just the where are you? What are you kind of looking forward to this weekend? Like what's ah what's popping up is the main storylines to you.
00:48:58
Mason
So for me and i and I'll definitely go over some of those like weird matchups that you're talking about. I did and I know we looked at last week, but I did want to throw out something that we didn't mention, which I will not expect this to happen, ah like ah going forward, which is NFL favorites went 13 and three straight up on the money line.
00:49:20
Mason
We were trying to figure out what the biggest upsets were and Tinsley had to go. You had to go to college, right? And I didn't and I didn't really pick a
00:49:28
Mason
Yeah, and i had and I had trouble picking an upset because there wasn't much of one um and the favorites.
00:49:32
nextguyup
I think the only one was the Steelers, right? or And the Bengals, yeah.
00:49:36
Mason
Yeah, ah so the Bengals was the the the Patriots got, ah they upset the Bengals. so um And when it came to the spread, the favorites were 9 and 7. However, for the favorites also started 4-0 straight up and against the spread during the night game. So just something to keep in mind there.
00:49:58
Mason
um this This is tied for the best straight up record for week one favorites since the realignment in 2002. So I just wanted to ah figure out if that was like, is this going to be an overreaction or not for some of the the straight up.
00:50:16
Mason
Now was the Jags, were they favorite? No, they were, they were, they were underdog.
00:50:21
nextguyup
Yeah, we're we covered three and a half.
00:50:23
nextguyup
Um, I I saw stat I'm a butchered a little bit because I should have written it down but um Last year was the most profitable year to bet on favorites since like 2004.
00:50:37
nextguyup
And then it's always been a thing where like the next year you'd bet on like underdogs, you make more money just in general because plus money, right? But it wasn't even close last year.
00:50:47
nextguyup
Like the the favorites dominated the book so hard. and And what they're talking about is how Vegas is really over years and years now of data and just getting better at this, that there's the the margins are so slim. ah Because there's only 32 NFL games. There's only 16 matchups a week until you get bi-weeks and all that good stuff. With college, there's a little bit more wiggle room because there's legitimately so much more to keep up with that the the books will not like not have the most accurate lines. NFL, the lines are super sharp.
00:51:22
nextguyup
And so I do think that I'm starting to really realize that like NFL like player props is the way to go for betting, but betting favorites might be the move.
00:51:35
Mason
Mm-hmm Okay. Well speaking of betting and I agree with you on that speaking of betting. Did you bet any? ah quarterback to throw over their player prop like their passing yards or anything last Okay Okay, so I did find this stat and this is just an overview of last week going into this week as well and then we can look at some matchups and In week one, there were a total of 34 passing touchdowns between all 32 teams.
00:51:48
nextguyup
Yeah, one and it didn't go well.
00:52:05
Mason
That's three fewer than last year. And to bring this in perspective, in 2021, there are 61 passing touchdowns in week one.
00:52:14
Mason
So if you're wanting to bet anytime touchdown favorites, do you want to go more like running backs instead of like wide receivers and tight ends and go more running backs or rushing quarterback?
00:52:27
Mason
ah Touchdown so something to think about ah there were also 24 QBs that had one or fewer passing touchdowns ah Then with 20 passing attempts and week one ah since the merger ah So that was something I did one throw out speaking of like little ah ah Speaking of little throwing, Caleb Williams was the 19th quarterback since the merger to go number one overall and start in week one of his draft year. ah Those quarterbacks were four, 14 and one straight up and six and 13 against the spread. ah Williams first start didn't go well. In fact, 11 QBs had 25 passing attempts and fewer yards.
00:53:11
Mason
in their first career start. ah start ah Do you want to guess the others that there's three others that have like not reached that many yards?
00:53:26
nextguyup
oh Tommy DeVito Fun fact about Tommy DeVito he was not a rookie last year He had been on the practice squad the whole year before so I don't know why we count him as a rookie But that's not here or there No
00:53:27
Mason
Tommy DeVito, Desmond Ritter, and Brett Hunley. Not a good company.
00:53:40
Mason
I think it was just saying like their first star ah with 25 passing attempts, but less than 100 passing yards.
00:53:47
nextguyup
Listen to a show that was like we got to give him time. He's a rookie No, he's been on an NFL practice squad for a whole year. Shut up about Tommy DeVito and his cutlet sandwich Um
00:53:56
Mason
Okay, that's my random stuff for last ah ah last week. Let's look at this week real quick. Did you have any matchups that you wanted to focus on?
00:54:09
nextguyup
Yes, yes and no um The Jets and Titans this is not a Titans podcast is not a Jaguars podcast But this is so the Jets the Jets are in a spot where they've got to They got to figure it out quick because I feel like if Aaron Rodgers is unhappy it's gonna be firing time for that that that's that whole squad over there and on the flip side and
00:54:38
nextguyup
If if will levis has another game like he just had where he gave away the win Titans fans are just like It's we're done. It's throwing mason root off and we're gonna draft a rookie I don't know that they're gonna be able to handle like Will Nevis throwing game ceiling pick sixes and doing a surrender cobra on the field, which that was funny. He just drops to his knees. and ah That was that was such a such a funny meme. I saw a lot of those. But ah that's that's definitely one matchup that I'm interested in, because it's it feels like two teams that it's early in the season. but
00:55:17
nextguyup
They both need to win like they both need to come out and look good.
00:55:19
Mason
For sure. Man, that pick was so bad.
00:55:21
nextguyup
And then my other. Another one is. Chargers and Panthers, ah the Chargers under Jim Harbaugh, is this who they're going to be?
00:55:31
nextguyup
Are they going to have multiple or they have a 100 yard rusher every game, play really good defense and just dominate teams? And are the Panthers really going to look this bad all year?
00:55:45
nextguyup
i I really hope not. I really hope not for the Panthers for their own sake because that means Bryce Young is probably done. um So I'm definitely interested to see that because that is a not a rookie head coach because he has coached an NFL before but The dischargers team he's taking it over and has he already flipped the switch a lot faster than people thought he could and are the Panthers truly this bad Because if they can't look the way they did last week against the Saints again, that would that's just tough.
00:56:18
Mason
Yeah, for sure. No, I agree with you. That's a good matchup. I had two here.
00:56:25
Mason
These were two teams that you felt like could have won the game last week and they barely lost it. And that would be the Rams in overtime to the Lions and the Cardinals to the Bills.
00:56:38
Mason
It was a single digit. ah Both of these teams, one of them is going to start at 0 and 2. And I'm curious to see what your thoughts are because I know you were high on basically both of these.
00:56:51
Mason
but McVeigh is known as one of the ah coaches to start out hot ah early on, starting his career 17 and 4 straight up in September. um And with Kyler Murray going on the road, let's see, Kyler Murray, he's had one of his best ah ah records traveling ah So on the road, so I'm 17 and 6 playing either Eastern or Central time covering that spread.
00:57:22
Mason
So I'm curious to see Well, is it not in LA?
00:57:27
nextguyup
It's Cardinals at home. No, it's Cardinals at home.
00:57:28
Mason
Cardinals at home. Okay.
00:57:30
Mason
Sorry about that. So ah maybe that was ah for next week, but I was looking at that stat already, but ah I'm curious to see what's gonna happen with that game.
00:57:40
nextguyup
Yeah, this this probably could have fell into that same category where I was talking about the Titans and Jets where there's two teams that both need to win, especially this earlier divisional game.
00:57:51
nextguyup
Both these teams feel like they could have gotten one last week. um Cardinals gave up a big lead to Josh Allen and the Bills and the Rams played a really ugly game against the Lions and lost overtime.
00:58:04
nextguyup
um ah I felt like the.
00:58:06
Mason
Close spread, by the way, one point.
00:58:08
nextguyup
Yeah, at one point it's it's flat back and forth between the favorite like who's favorite to win. So that makes sense. um I just, I would lean Cardinals here because they're the healthier of the two.
00:58:20
nextguyup
ah The Rams really got beat up in that Sunday night game. They lost Pook and Akua for at least four weeks. um Starting left tackle and left guard both went on IR today um for the next four games.
00:58:33
nextguyup
So you're just talking about a lot of injuries building up.
00:58:35
Mason
Mm-hmm Yeah My last one i'm just gonna be short and sweet to the point is are the bangles gonna start out?
00:58:37
nextguyup
um So that makes me lean Cardinals, but at the same time, I just don't see a Matthew Stafford and Sean McVeigh team starting. Oh, and to.
00:58:54
Mason
Oh and two with them having a tough matchup against the chiefs So that's something that you don't really want to start out with, but we'll find out in that game.
Bengals' Challenges and NFL Player Performance
00:59:03
Mason
It's always been a good game between those two teams.
00:59:08
nextguyup
Yeah, I just I know I talked about it on Monday about the Bengals slow start like they always start out slow. This feels a little different. This feels like a team that's just not on the same page right now. I think they have so much drama going and on. I mean, T Higgins has this hamstring injury that All of a sudden popped up right before the season started and I know he's playing on a franchise tag and he has a lot of incentive to not get hurt during the year because he's going to be a free agent. So is he going to milk this to preserve himself for free agency? Jamar Chase has taken shots at the head coach saying, I don't know, you're going to ask him why only got six targets.
00:59:50
nextguyup
ah And Joe Burrow continues to get beat up. Like, this Patriots defensive line was missing Judon and Christian, ah Christian Bazemore. So it's not like they had their best players. I know they traded Judon, but ah Christian's out with injury. So they're missing their top two guys going into the year. This isn't an elite defensive line and they still consistently got pressure on Joe the whole time. Now you're going to get so defensive line with,
01:00:19
nextguyup
Uh, Chris Jones and Carl office and a defensive coordinator in Spagnola who knows how to cook up some, some exotic blitzes. So this is not the team to try and get right against. Um, that'll be the fun narrative because Joe burrow is one of only two quarterbacks to beat Patrick, my homes in the playoffs, but.
01:00:40
nextguyup
i Just don't think it matters right now. I think this this bingles team is gonna go into and They're gonna have to do some soul searching pretty quick if they're going to be competitive this year um ah but but Oh Yes The I think the game of the week commanders Giants
01:00:51
Mason
Yeah. All right. There you go. Did you have any thing else to wrap up the NFL segment?
01:01:10
nextguyup
it's the last time Is this the last time we see Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback of the Giants? Dude looks bad. he
01:01:19
Mason
That was even a true or false question I had and you all called it on possibly.
01:01:23
nextguyup
i don't I don't know that he can make it after this game.
01:01:27
nextguyup
ah So after this game, Drew Locke is supposed to be healthy. they They didn't put him on short-term IR because he they thought he'd be good to go after a week two. It might be the Drew Locke show pretty soon.
01:01:39
nextguyup
daniel joe ah I know Bryce Young didn't look great. i've I've watched a lot of bad quarterback play in my life. Blaine Gabbard, I watched on purpose for years as a starting NFL quarterback. Daniel Jones.
01:01:57
nextguyup
Like he's broken, he's he it's done. And now he's got the fans, they were already kind of turned on him, but the fans were waiting an hour after the game for him to exit, like the player entrance area, and they just booed him all the way to his car.
01:02:14
nextguyup
Like at this point, like the dude's just like, you know what, I just want to be done. Like there comes a point where he's like, just bench me and I can't do it anymore. So that's another game I'm kind of looking for because the commanders with a rookie quarterback, if they come out and Jane Daniels looked like he did pretty good. the The Bucks are a hard team to go up against as a rookie because ah that that head coach, I'm blanking on his name. That's really annoying. ah The Bucks head coach has been defensive coordinator for a long time. he's His record against rookies is crazy. ah So, but yeah, no, that's,
01:02:51
nextguyup
I think this might be Daniel Jones last game. That was my last, my last little thing.
01:02:57
nextguyup
Todd Bowles. Yes, Todd Bowles. So Jane Daniels looked good, ah rushed for a lot of yards, but it is tough for your first game to be against Todd Bowles who had a whole summer to prepare for you.
01:03:08
nextguyup
He's one of the better defensive coaches in the whole league.
01:03:10
nextguyup
so um But he still, Daniel still played pretty well. So I look for the commanders to kind of put on a show this weekend and have that final stake to the heart of Daniel Jones.
01:03:25
Mason
All right, well, it was nice knowing you, Daniel. Now let's go on, move on to our, so we talked about this before the podcast ah started and we were figuring out, ah we have a best bet and a leg for the parlay, the famous next guy up parlay, we need to get right with this parlay and I think this is the way to do it.
01:03:46
Mason
We were asking ourselves, I actually asked the question and everybody was like, you know what, why aren't we doing that? If we have a best bet, why are we not using that best bet for the leg for the parlay?
01:03:58
Mason
So we can throw out other bets, but I think our yeah, I think our best bet needs to be like what we ride and die on, which is the next guy up parlay.
01:04:01
Zack
It's a good question
01:04:12
nextguyup
I think, so this this is this is where this is what I'm gonna throw out real quick.
01:04:17
nextguyup
I think for the parlay, throw out something that's a little wild, a little crazy. That's what a parlay's for, right? Is to get rich quick. I think we need to take the training wheels off the parlay.
01:04:29
nextguyup
If it's gonna lose, let it lose in a blaze of glory. Let's not take lines down, let's let's let's make it crazy.
01:04:37
nextguyup
And then keep your best bet, your best bet.
01:04:40
Mason
Are you changing this on us?
01:04:41
Mason
I thought you agreed with us on a best bet needs to, you know.
01:04:44
nextguyup
I've been chewing. No, I've just been chewing. I think best bets are just that's what it is. That's that's the best bet.
01:04:48
Zack
It's an actual bet parlays are meant to be a little wild I like it
01:04:52
nextguyup
Yeah. Because because the thing about a guy like me is a plus 300 parlay don't really get the the blood pumping.
01:04:55
Mason
Well, now this changes everything.
01:05:02
Mason
So we just do something crazy instead of just.
01:05:03
nextguyup
I'm not crazy, but.
01:05:05
Zack
Not crazy, but just you don't neuter it we've been trying to neuter the next guy up pocket or parlay Since
01:05:10
nextguyup
Right. We've been we've been taking the legs down like close to minus 200 stuff. And it's like, man.
01:05:18
Zack
is all and nothing kind of guy
01:05:20
nextguyup
Who? are Who are we fooling here? If I'm taking apart like at because you know how you are when you're building a parlay, when you're truly looking at it, what's one more leg going to hurt?
01:05:29
nextguyup
Let's get up to plus fifteen hundred. So.
01:05:32
Zack
That's not what I do for the record, but.
01:05:34
Mason
You guys are gonna hate my uh what i'm doing then just wanted to tell you just give me your heads up How'd you know all right, well let's keep this thing off then are we gonna do uh the parlay or the best bet first It's like we weren't prepared or something
01:05:38
Zack
Daniel Jones, four plus sessions.
01:05:50
nextguyup
You know, that's the question, right?
01:05:55
Zack
OK, I'll I'll give my parlay like I'm not going to change it too much, but I'll change it here. um This is going to sound like an interesting take, but I think it's smart. I'm taking South Carolina plus three and a half first half.
01:06:12
Zack
um I think what we've seen with the system is the first half is highly, highly influenced by the system. South Carolina's home field advantage is going to shine through there. I see um South Carolina maybe even taking a halftime lead. I think LSU comes back and wins the game. But I think South Carolina will keep it close at halftime plus three and a half points.
01:06:39
Zack
but That's my parlay pick.
01:06:41
Mason
Oh, we're doing parlay picks. Okay. Or doing both.
01:06:47
Mason
Okay. Well, if we're going for it, uh, my leg for the parlay is going to be a Colts tease of the line up, not down to minus six and a half.
01:07:02
Mason
It's not insane. It's not like minus 20 or anything. It's a touchdown at plus one 59.
01:07:10
Mason
Malik Willis starting quarterback. I'm not a believer as a Titans fan. I've seen him play and break my heart too many times.
01:07:17
Zack
I kind of think it'd be funny if Malik Wells had a career day.
01:07:20
nextguyup
I, at this point, listen, we, I know, I know, I know, I know all of you aren't in the group text with this, but Mason is all in on, he's, he's hedging his future finances on Lake Willis having a career bad day.
01:07:21
Mason
It's a parlay. We don't care. Apparently it's not the best bet, so.
01:07:34
Mason
Yeah, I dropped two parlays on like c Colt's ah defense touchdowns, which means a pick six or fumble recovery or a kickoff return.
01:07:46
Mason
It don't matter. Whatever it is parlayed with like teasing it up to like minus 17 and a half. So blowout central. I'm ready for it.
01:07:56
nextguyup
I'm not rooting for it, but it would just be a shame if Malik Willis comes out and throws for 300 yards.
01:08:00
Zack
It would be a shame.
01:08:03
Mason
Well, you can't root for it because it's in the parlay. So there you go.
01:08:07
Mason
Nah, it's a parlay.
01:08:08
nextguyup
not if za Not if Zach loses on the first leg.
01:08:09
Mason
We don't care anymore.
01:08:14
Mason
I took a bet if anybody wants to take it with me. Colt's two touchdown defensive touchdowns and Colt's minus $17, $5 to pay out $655.
01:08:24
Zack
There you go. That's a mason parlay fiber stalling.
01:08:26
Mason
That's right. Okay. So that's my part. We got is someone cooking this together. That's my parlay leg and then I'll do my, but my best bet.
01:08:31
nextguyup
Yeah, yeah. Right now we're at plus three ninety eight.
01:08:35
Mason
All right. And we haven't added your leg yet. Look at that.
01:08:38
nextguyup
That's right. All right. If we're if we're doing it, if we're truly going to go crazy here.
01:08:45
Mason
We're not going crazy. Remember you just said that.
01:08:47
nextguyup
No, you're right. um
01:08:52
nextguyup
Yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do No, I don't wanna make you guys suffer with me on that. All right, we're gonna do, we're gonna take bucks, lions, and we're gonna teaser on up the over to over 52 and a half to give it, make it plus 105.
01:09:18
nextguyup
So just to do the do what we've got cooked up here, we've got South Carolina first half plus three and a half, c Colts minus six and a half, and then Lions, Buccaneers over 52 and a half is plus, where did it go?
01:09:42
nextguyup
That's that time.
01:09:43
Zack
OK, my best bet quickly, I'm taking Alabama at minus. 16 over Wisconsin. I think I think they went big.
01:09:55
Mason
Okay. It's my turn.
01:09:59
Zack
Yep, my my my my turn.
01:10:00
nextguyup
Yes, yes, my turn.
01:10:02
Mason
My turn. ah Guys, Kirk Cousins may still be hurt. I don't know if anybody was watching that game. I was just because I'm all in on Justin Fields and the Steelers, but the fact that he just did not lick himself and did the Falcons draft Michael Pangos Jr. for a reason, like for this for this actual season, or am I overreacting? It might just be that I'm overreacting, but listen. Hurts Is uh The he plays the best against the spread when he plays career or prime time or night games He has 10 career starts at home prime time or night games and he is eight one and one against the spread It's a high spread don't get me wrong But i've already taken the colts minus six and a half. I might as well take the eagles minus six and a half against the struggling falcons Best bet put it in the books
01:11:00
nextguyup
All right, so my best bet, it's a little bit of a homer pick, but I do have some backing up with it. I'm gonna go Browns under 17 and a half team total.
01:11:11
nextguyup
It is plus 120.
Focus on Cleveland Browns and Jaguars' Defense
01:11:14
nextguyup
If you saw the Cleveland Browns last week, they scored 13 points. One of their touchdowns came at the end of the game with 29 seconds left of garbage time.
01:11:23
nextguyup
um against the Cowboys, very good defense. Deshaun Watson is bad. Deshaun Watson is going to lose his job as soon as he can, even though he has one of the worst contracts in NFL history. The Jaguars defense held the Miami Dolphins to 13 points until one busted coverage by Tyrick Hill for 80 yards happened.
01:11:50
nextguyup
That happens. I can live with a defense that gave up 20 points to one of the top five offenses of the NFL last year. um That the Browns offensive line got more beat up They're already missing their their left and right tackle their center and right guard got hurt um In the game against the Cowboys.
01:12:10
nextguyup
So you're just looking at a bad situation with the quarterback who? um Was holding the ball too long getting pressured making bad decisions his offensive line got more hurt his one of his top targets and ah tied in David and joke who's out for the game and
01:12:27
nextguyup
I just think this is going to snowball. The Browns are going to look even worse. So give me under 17 and a half plus 120.
01:12:36
Mason
Unless Jamis Winston plays the game, then they're going to score 35 points.
01:12:41
nextguyup
So we're we're at the point where Deshaun's not going to get benched yet. um They have to let him play because of the money. But if this whole new allegation thing comes through for me, then.
01:12:54
Mason
Comes through for you. Yeah.
01:12:55
nextguyup
um comes through against me, then yeah, that wouldn't be great.
01:12:59
nextguyup
But we're it's already, it's Thursday.
01:13:03
nextguyup
I don't think I have to worry about it too much.
01:13:03
Mason
Owen, if they start like Owen five or own six and that's still like looming around them, then yeah, I can see them pulling them at that point.
01:13:12
nextguyup
Yeah, but that is my best bet. I'm also gonna take all of your guys' best bets and parlay them, because I'm insane. But
Closing and Social Media Engagement
01:13:20
nextguyup
that's that's free.
01:13:21
nextguyup
that's That's just extra for the for all the people out there.
01:13:25
Mason
All right, guys. Well. Don't forget to follow us in the discord and all of our social media because we're adding this is not the end of our bets we add ah throughout the week and on saturday morning we drop a tinsley drops like five or six bets that he just hit every single one of last time and zach does too so we we throw him in there on the day of game day so please make sure you follow if you're not and sure how to sign up for discord go on our is it on instagram too or just on twitter
01:13:56
nextguyup
Yeah, so the so the thing about discord the link expires after seven days. So the link tree is not up to date Make sure you're following me on twitter or mason on twitter or or the next guy up twitter page as well that too And I will send you that and then whenever I tweet out about pix I add the link to it as well.
01:14:09
Zack
Or just DM us and be like, hey, can you zoom in to Discord and invite?
01:14:19
nextguyup
So but yeah, just dms for it that's going to be easier because it expires every seven days on the link tree and
01:14:24
Mason
Okay. Sweet. And we'll make sure we share them and so check social media first, if you can't find it DMS, but, uh, guys, it was a great episode.
01:14:26
nextguyup
but pain to update.
01:14:33
Mason
We hope you all enjoyed it. Uh, make, like I said, make sure you check us out on socials. Have a good weekend and we'll catch you on Monday.