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New Year, New Shop.
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Happy New Year! We have a lot to catch you all up on. Tune in and see what we've been up to for the last month.
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Introduction and New Year Greetings
00:00:21
Speaker
loyal listeners welcome back to the show yeah thank you for sticking with us first show of the new year oh yeah you're right what what's today's date the fifth
00:00:35
Speaker
Holy cow. It's been a blur. So we, uh, we were absent last week playing hooky, moving the new shop, playing hooky as an ally. I would describe it. Um, you may notice a bit of an echo. I can, I can hear it myself. We'll see how good the mics and the filters are to filter it out. But, um, this is the first episode from the new shop.
00:01:04
Speaker
Yeah, well, welcome. Yeah, we've got one, two, three moving blankets, a carpet, and this room is still heinously echoey. Yeah, it's about as cold and hard of a room as it gets. Concrete block, concrete floor. Yeah, concrete ceiling. That's right. It's basically a concrete box. It looks like something out of a Saw movie.
00:01:33
Speaker
That's right, I was about to say, this is like where you bring somebody and hold them captive. Yeah, and make them cut their own leg off.
Sponsor Shoutouts: Hayfla and LNN Electric
00:01:42
Speaker
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00:02:00
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Ensure that every project you create is built to last. Learn more at hayflood.com. Check them out. I think we got somebody to give a shout out to also. Oh yeah, LNN Electric, licensed electrical contractor here in New Jersey. Home Dell, Hazlett, Middletown. But he travels all across the tri-state. Yeah.
00:02:22
Speaker
That's Nick, our electrician, who did all the work here in the shop. He did an amazing job, ran everything in conduit. I think he's been calling himself the mastermind. Humble as ever.
00:02:43
Speaker
Yeah, well, you know, Nick's a licensed electrician. Give him a shout at 732-592-0075. And you could also find him at lnelectricpro at gmail.com. If you call, tell him you want Dave to come do the work at your house. It's half the price, but it takes him twice as long.
00:03:13
Speaker
Uh, Nick's actually coming by, I believe come
Internet Woes in the New Shop
00:03:17
Speaker
by tonight. I'm going to talk about, uh, Nick and his wife, Laura, talk about the, um, the attic job where we're doing for them. So that'll be good. Um, so what do we got on the, on the docket today? A lot's happened. Yeah. So the last, last episode was.
00:03:43
Speaker
Was that the Christmas extravaganza? It must have been because it was Christmas then New Year's was the next week that we didn't have a Podcast we did the the Review, you know where we sent out the Manny episode, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was like yeah last week. Let me see Man this the block is horrible for the internet
00:04:08
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I wonder those cameras don't work. Yeah. We have to get some a mesh network or extenders or something because like, you know, we're only 50 feet from the router and I can't get this freaking website to load. That's going to be a problem. We're going to cement room. Yeah. Even when you came in here earlier when you were streaming the music. Oh, yeah. Stop playing. Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:39
Speaker
Anyway, it's not working. But yeah, so last week was a replay of season one episode 11 with Manny fan favorite Yeah, hopefully everybody listened if you hadn't listened already because it's a really good episode We've got to have Manny back on soon And the episode before that yeah, it was the the Christmas foods
00:05:03
Speaker
He's still recovering. Yeah. God. I weighed 214 pounds yesterday morning. I was like, holy crap. I'm like, how'd that happen? Sneaks up on you. Um, so yes, we haven't recorded an episode and it's gotta be a month now.
The Dust Collector Dilemma
00:05:22
Speaker
Yeah. Cause we did. We did three. We did three and had a week off with the retro. So that's a month. You're right.
00:05:34
Speaker
So yeah, I mean a lot's been going on since then. I guess we'll start with what we remember, and then we might remember some other stuff. Yeah, that's part of the memory. So last week, which was the last week of the month,
00:05:51
Speaker
You know, we started to move some stuff over here to the new shop on, uh, I guess, what was that? It was like a Tuesday. So Monday we were just working and then Tuesday and Wednesday we started to move some stuff over here. Just Rob and I, you know, anything that we could
00:06:10
Speaker
move ourselves. We move the drill press, the the planer, the dust collector, which we'll talk about. Yeah, the cyclone. What else? The Harvey dust collector. Actually, that had been here for a while. Yeah.
00:06:30
Speaker
All right. Let's see. So we move. Oh, a couple of the big rolling toolbox, the tables, like a big sanding table and a finishing table. Oh, you know, on wheels, we move those over here. I forget what else we moved. Anyway, we moved a bunch of stuff. The the dust collector is. I mean, it's right over here. It's what? Talk in size.
00:07:01
Speaker
Yeah, it's got to be eight feet or taller. Yeah. It's probably just under eight feet so that you can have it in an eight foot ceiling. Right. Because remember how much taller it was than the door. Yeah. So maybe it is nine feet tall. And it was in
00:07:20
Speaker
a little room like a shed. There's a four by eight bump out attached to the, yeah, the shop. But when, when the shop was built, I had this bright idea. I say, can you just like tack on a four by eight room and I'd stick the dust collector and the compressor out there. Yeah. Like a, an outdoor closet. Um,
00:07:40
Speaker
So yeah, trying to get that thing out was brutal and insanely heavy. We've been running it without the indoor filter on it. Like, you know, so direct vent right outside. And I mean, it was mean and lean, but there was some residual dust that collected in that room. And it when we
00:08:05
Speaker
Well, he opened the door to say to take the desk collector down. We've both just kind of looked at it It was not only daunting in the in the size and shape of it, but it was so dirty in there. Yeah, I Don't know if the cough I have is still from that or what but
00:08:25
Speaker
it was very dusty and it's all that fine dust. Oh man. It goes to the filter. You get, you sort of like step into a job like that a little gingerly and then you reach that point where you're just disgustingly dirty and you just
00:08:42
Speaker
you know you give up trying to stay clean you just want to get it out yeah and we had already moved a bunch of stuff yeah so it was like late in the day you know yeah we it was after lunch I think yeah we what we moved one stuff we stopped we got lunch and then we then we got into that and it was you know I think it was a late lunch too you know we weren't too enthusiastic at first no
00:09:06
Speaker
So yeah, like the conundrum with that is it's eight feet tall and it's got this five horsepower motor at the top, which weighs, you know, whatever 125 pounds probably. Um, and it's attached to the impeller.
00:09:19
Speaker
Right, which is bolted to the top of the cyclone. And it's all taller than the door and the room isn't deep enough to tip the thing over and just pull it out sideways. I have no idea how you got that thing in there. I must have blocked it out of my mind. But you see, that's when you're young and you're just insane.
00:09:49
Speaker
And there was nobody around to help. You weren't that young though. No, you're right. I was about 40. I was probably about 40. And I think I put it in there and built, I must have built the stand around, I must have assembled the stand around it. Because there's no way I could have lifted the cyclone into the stand by myself.
00:10:20
Speaker
So how'd you get the cycle up in the air? Um, say I got in there and just lifted it up, you know, like hugged it and put it up on the, on the stand. I don't know about that. It didn't have the motor on it. We have some commotion outside.
00:10:49
Speaker
Yeah, take a peek out that window. School kids getting out. Just a bunch of stupid kids. Yeah, I definitely put it on there without the motor. But then how'd you get the motor up into it?
00:11:11
Speaker
I must have had to just lift up the motor like we did. Just on a ladder. Yeah. Yeah. And then maybe you drove, dragged it over. Yeah. Because where it was, it was too close to the wall to put a ladder inside. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. I, I was in there and then moved it because remember there was another hole in the wall too.
00:11:33
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, but that was for the old cyclone Yeah, the old cyclone was it just had a three horsepower motor and which died So who knows we don't know how yeah it was aliens how did they build Puma Punko
00:11:54
Speaker
so we are initially we unbolted the cyclone from the legs thinking that we could just like get the cyclone and the motor down off of the legs but that proved to be extremely sketchy oh yeah then the thing is like teetering around we're trying to get back on the legs and it's like falling yeah
00:12:18
Speaker
Yeah, that was it. You know, it's like, what do you what would happen if we did this? I don't know. Let's try it. And then you did it. And you're like, no, no, no, go back. Go back. Now I have visions of like getting my hand crushed between. This is just what I need.
00:12:34
Speaker
Right. We can't work if we'd get hurt. Yeah. Moving to this new shop with all this overhead and then all of a sudden can't work. Yeah. So what we ended up doing, we got it back on the legs and bolted temporarily. We unbolted the motor and the impeller and ratchet strapped it out of the
00:12:54
Speaker
of the cyclone, you know, like loop the ratchet strap. Luckily, the able to get over the rafters because it's a corrugated metal roof. Excuse me. So we ratchet strapped it out, took out the the cyclone in the legs, which was also pretty hard. Mm hmm. Just because the geometry and everything and the weight. I mean, things frickin heavy.
00:13:22
Speaker
Yeah. And it was kind of jammed up there. We had it tilted with the legs half sticking out the door, but the top of the unit was hitting the back wall. Yeah. And then the impeller was grabbing on the inside of the cyclone because, you know, the motor is so heavy that, and it's, you know, weighted in a certain way where we had it strapped that it was turning, you know, it was just wanting to like flop over.
00:13:48
Speaker
Yeah, and you're up there like with your foot on that on a spider man Yeah, I forgot about that Because it's a it's a pole bar and so there's that strapping, you know, yeah, so you're honest sideways on a 2x4 but It's not exposed. You know, there's this there's the wall on the outside of it So you really just have an inch and a half to put your foot on. I Forgot all about that part
00:14:15
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, in a corner. Yeah. And I'm facing, you know, the opposite corner, but working into my right. Well, we got it out. We blew it out with the ego dust, not dust, leaf blower. Yeah, not sponsored. There was a cloud of dust.
00:14:41
Speaker
Yeah, it was like, you know West but I did like they have those dust storms That's what it looked like. Yeah, it was like the mom was that movie the mummy Mm-hmm where it's like you see it coming across the somebody was probably getting out of their car food town and got like a nice mouthful of walnut dust Yeah, I mean it was thick like you couldn't even see through it. Yeah, it was
00:15:08
Speaker
So yeah, we got the cyclone. You know, you forget. I already forgot that until you brought it up, like it's in place now. Yeah. And you just, you let those things go. But of course we brought it over. We got, you know, the forklift is over here. These chairs are not as comfortable as other ones. The forklift's over here. So, you know, it's easy to
00:15:35
Speaker
You know, put it together, lift the motor up with the forklift, drop it in. It makes it so much easier. But then we get it in place and then it's like the outlets are exactly where the inlet for the dust collection is. I mean, what's the chance of that? Because we were just like, oh yeah, just put it like right about here. And then it turns out it's exactly in the wrong spot. But we want to raise the thing up anyway. So we get a bigger barrel underneath.
00:16:03
Speaker
Right, right now we just got the 33 or 35, what are they? Yeah, probably 30, 35. So yeah, we're going to raise it up, put a bigger barrel and then that'll clear the outlets. Yeah. But the remote control works good here. Yeah, I was having a hard time turning it off before. Oh, damn. It's those cheap Chinese remotes.
00:16:33
Speaker
kicks right on. Yeah. I have to see, uh, I don't know if Oneida sells replacement drums. Oh yeah. Yeah. They probably, Oneida's they're very expensive. Yeah. Especially for the peripheral, you know, accessories. Actually it's not bad. 279 bucks for 55 gallon heavy duty five horsepower.
00:17:02
Speaker
Come on, 10 inch inlet, large heavy duty waste container kit for use with Cyclone dust collectors such as our five horsepower Dust Gorilla Pro and seven and a half horsepower direct drive, reinforced 55 gallon steel drum includes 10 inch diameter hose connection for attaching to the bottom discharge port of the Cyclone. I wonder if it's the same diameter. What comes with everything?
00:17:32
Speaker
Yeah. If we had, and we could put a little dolly under there. Yeah. What would be nice is to make a thing so that the forklift can pick it up. Oh yeah. And then we could just like be heavy, like, like put it on like a pivot and then lift it up by that pivot. And then when you get over to the thing, you just go, I mean, I suppose go underneath the forks, but just go underneath the forks and just lift up the back and it'll dump in. Yeah.
00:17:59
Speaker
Yeah, because you can't lift up a 55 gallon drum. No, because even that 30 gallon one, when it's full to the top is, it's pretty heavy, heavy enough. And this, now we have to hoist it into the dumpster. So it's like four feet high. I mean, I guess you could just like drag it onto a pallet and stand on the pallet and lift it up and then just like, push it over. But
00:18:34
Speaker
the hell was I saying? Oh, yeah. I mean, you want to make it as quick as possible because it always is full at the most inopportune time. That's why I emptied the Delta was, it was about half full, but I said, you know, I got, I got 10 minutes. Let me empty it now. Cause I want to be doing something, you know, like when you're, when you start out, you don't want to stop. Yeah. You know, and that's when you're taking off the most.
00:18:52
Speaker
You know, Nick said 4.30.
00:19:01
Speaker
Yeah, we got those bags you're supposed to just replace, right? I think so. I don't know. I just tie them up and throw them away. And then we'll have to see about getting, I've been, I've been empty and it seems pretty sturdy. Does collector bag. So then, uh, that was Tuesday and Wednesday.
Journey to the Hamptons: Work and Road Challenges
00:19:28
Speaker
Thursday when we do Thursday didn't we we took a car ride. Oh, yeah Wow Holy cow, we went out to the Hamptons on Thursday. Yeah, we could go today Yeah, we I mean it was that's a multi-layered trip. Yeah went out to a job site out there in Bridge Hampton and
00:19:52
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. So we, um, Wednesday we packed up, uh, yeah. Wednesday we packed up the two vanities and that was it, right? Yeah. Just the van. Yeah. We brought a molding sample. Oh yeah. Packed up the two vanities and then Thursday morning we left about five 30.
00:20:13
Speaker
in the morning and got out there at about eight, eight 30. Yeah. I mean the two vanities are four separate cabinets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a, it was two thirds of the van. Um, yeah, I got out there about eight 30 because we stopped for to go to the bathroom and grab, we need a wiper fluid. So that was a little bit of an aside, but, um, yeah, so just about two and a half, three hours to get out there and, uh,
00:20:42
Speaker
Yeah, except when we were on the on the Verrazano. Oh, yeah. You know, it's saying, you know, up here, get on the Bell Parkway. I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, can we go on the Bell Parkway? Yeah. You know, for those that don't know, in New York, we have this thing called the Parkway system and no commercial plates on the Parkway system.
00:21:09
Speaker
So the Belt Parkway is part of that and that's the most direct route from the Verzano out to Long Island. From Staten Island over to Brooklyn. Yeah, through Queens past JFK and then you get on like the
00:21:27
Speaker
I don't know, the sunrise highway or whatever it was that we got on, you know, that we didn't get on. But that's how you would have gotten here because, um, quick aside, Rob and Corey got out here and what'd they say, an hour and a half.
00:21:42
Speaker
Uh, yeah, I think so. Yeah. Their ride home was not, not quite so easy from what I understand. So back to the Marisano bridge. Yeah. So realize we can't get on the belt Parkway. So we had to take the BQE, the Brooklyn Queens expressway. And it's, you know, it goes across the top of Brooklyn and then through the top of Queens. Right. Whereas the belt is on the bottom.
00:22:09
Speaker
Yeah. And then you get on the LA long Island expressway for 95. Yeah. So, you know, it's like, I don't know if it's peak rush hour, but it's like, you know, six 30, six 45 in the morning, which is like, that's a heavy traffic time in the city, all the, you know, commercial vehicles and.
00:22:31
Speaker
Right, so every commercial vehicle has to go that way. Right, and they're all going at that time because they've got to get to the job at seven or whatever.
00:22:40
Speaker
So it was like jammed up, totally jammed up. And it leads you to all the river crossings to get into Manhattan. So everybody is converging into that one spot from Queens and Long Island and Brooklyn and even Staten Island into that one little area where you got the river crossings to get into Manhattan. I understand why they don't have commercial vehicles on the expressways, but
00:23:10
Speaker
or on the parkways, but, you know, New York is a major. It's an epicenter of business. Yeah. I mean, how many commercial vehicles are going into the city every day? A million, hundreds of thousands. Like, get a better road. Yeah. It was crazy. Getting out there. Not so much, but coming home. Oh yeah. So we go out there.
00:23:39
Speaker
And, you know, we get the grand tour of the house, beautiful house. Then we, you know, we're talking about the different pieces, you know, cause we're doing, aside from the two vanities we brought, we're building a freestanding piece for the foyer, two wall units for the great room, a fireplace around for the great room, and a big countertop for the kitchen. Um,
00:24:06
Speaker
we're talking about all that stuff meanwhile you know next thing you know we're there for three hours yeah so that was about 11 I mean the morning flew by yeah about 11 o'clock we finally left and we took a ride down where I guess up well east northeast to
00:24:29
Speaker
Atcha. Oh no, we went to East Hampton first. Was it East Hampton? Yeah. Yeah. Took a ride out to East Hampton just to see it because the client said that, you know, it was worth taking a look at. It was pretty cool.
00:24:41
Speaker
you know, it was like another added like 30 minutes to our trip, but 15 there and 15 back. But then, um, we headed West, met up with Corey and Rob over at Corey's shop. CT Woodwork. Yeah, that was a great trip. Yeah, that was cool. I was glad that we were able to meet up with them. Corey's got a cool shop. Yeah. It's like a woodworking shop. All that wood, you know, wood floors, wood walls. Yep.
00:25:10
Speaker
I didn't ask him because he took it over from a guy that purpose built it to be a wood shop. I didn't know how long he had it operating. Oh did that guy do woodworking? I thought he did something else. Yeah.
00:25:26
Speaker
Yeah, he left like all that plywood and stuff like that, that he left them there. And, um, it's pretty cool. Yeah. It's, you know, setback off the road. And I mean, we didn't see a lot of Patrogue, but I mean, we saw like the downtown, but you know, I mean, fairly suburban kind of area, but then you pull down this long driveway and tucked way back as Corey shop. So it was cool. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. It's all by itself back there.
00:25:57
Speaker
and Rob DeMarco came and... What was the name of the place we had lunch? Bobby Q or something like that? Yes, yes, I think you're right. I don't know who Bobby is.
00:26:08
Speaker
Yeah, because they had like a Bobby Berger. Yeah, B-O-B-B-I-Q. Yeah, 70 West Main Street Patchogue. There's like a little bit of a renaissance going on in Patchogue downtown. A lot of restaurants, a lot of eclectic restaurants. I didn't see any chains. You know, they were all like one-off places.
00:26:34
Speaker
Established in June 2006, Bobby Q prides itself on serving the best southern barbecue on Long Island. Come find us in the heart of Patchogue.
00:26:44
Speaker
Yeah. That's a, that's a big, that's a bold statement. Yeah. It wasn't bad by any means, but it didn't like my socks off. I mean, and I've had, I haven't had a ton of barbecue, but I've had enough. Yeah. I've had, I've had some good barbecue, especially in Texas. Oh yeah. Oh my God. I mean, it was good. I don't want to make it sound like it wasn't good because it was good.
00:27:06
Speaker
Yeah, and there was this place in San Francisco in the area town they called the Fillmore, which it's probably all gentrified now, but that was like barbecue heaven there.
00:27:26
Speaker
you know, they serve it with right on the, you get it in brown paper and it's just slathered and you want to eat the paper after you, that's how good it was. They just give you like a stack of white bread. Oh man, it was so good. Yeah.
00:27:49
Speaker
Yes, we grabbed some lunch. We had a server with a very interesting voice. Maybe not. Hopefully she's not listening. Just like, I don't know. Maybe it was her real voice. I don't see how people don't have a real voice like that.
00:28:08
Speaker
What was the name of that actress? Jennifer Tilly. Yeah. Only accentuated, you know, sort of like that, except Whispier. Yeah. That was pretty unusual. Yeah, and she wasn't a great server. She wasn't selling it.
00:28:33
Speaker
No. No. The voice isn't cutting it. I don't care what your voice sounds like.
00:28:42
Speaker
Yeah, so then Waze, you know, I have a gripe with Waze. There's no way to plug in commercial vehicle. Yeah. Like Rob was saying that, uh, when he worked at Roberts, I guess somebody, they had something, but I don't know. I haven't been able to find anything because the same thing happened to us. You guys might remember on the Palisades Parkway, New Jersey, where, you know, we, we drove on it. Like, man, that UPS guy took that corner tight. Um,
00:29:11
Speaker
We drove on it like three times before we realized that no commercial vehicles were allowed. Right. And we had driven past cops and stuff, too. So they must, you know, kind of give people a pass. Yeah. And we have a, you know, a big, wrapped van. So it's clear that we're not like, does that have commercial plates? Like, that's definitely a commercial vehicle.
00:29:37
Speaker
Oh, so yeah, so we had lunch. We sat and shot the ship for a while. Then we left must have been 130. Yeah, originally, we were supposed to get home at 430. Is that what it said? Yeah. Well, we got home at six, right? Well, yeah, or for 430, maybe a little after four. But it kept going up and up and up.
00:30:07
Speaker
Yes, we got out onto the Sunrise Highway and then onto the Long Island Expressway. And it's just like bumper to bumper traffic. And we're like only like a half hour out of Patchogue, which is only halfway out on Long Island. And we got to drive the whole thing.
00:30:26
Speaker
And Waze just keeps saying, you know, in a mile, exit to so-and-so expressway. Parkway. Yeah, Parkway. Drive past that because we can't go on it. And then he adds more time. Yeah, and then 10 minutes later, take exit 25 to go to this Parkway. We can't take that.
00:30:47
Speaker
Yeah. So it just kept going on and on and on like that. Every road we couldn't take and the time just kept getting later and later. So then finally we made it all the way to Queens. We went through the midtown Queens tunnel. We drove all the way across town in Manhattan and went through what the Lincoln tunnel, right? Yeah.
00:31:14
Speaker
Then we got out of the Lincoln Tunnel and it was bumper to bumper traffic on the turnpike. It was miserable. So yeah, we ended up getting back about six. So that was a, you know, or maybe it was six 30. I don't know. It was a solid 13 hour day. Yeah. Cause we stopped here at the shop. What did, what did we need to stop for? We dropped the sinks off. Oh yeah. Yeah. We had the sink for the kitchen and for the laundry room. Yeah.
Moving Day: Friends, Tools, and New Beginnings
00:31:42
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after all that we didn't want to but I said I think we should drop the sink so yeah because because Friday so now we're finally Friday Friday it was moving day mm-hmm so you know got to the shop early about seven started breaking down the table saws and then
00:32:06
Speaker
I mean, we can't thank all these guys enough. All these guys showed up to help. Rob and Corey showed up first. Um, then Keith and then Matt. Yeah. Matthew Sario. And then even John Peters came by. So yeah, it was nice. We had a lot of help all unsolicited, which was Keith's truck was, that was the champion.
00:32:33
Speaker
I mean, it's really saved the whole experience. Yeah. It would have been rough getting everything into the van. Just, just the lifting, you know, I don't know how we would, we would have had to use the engine hoist to pick those things up. And it's not easy because
00:32:52
Speaker
because of how it lifts things. It's made to lift things that are more narrow than the legs. Shaped like an engine. Right. Everything that we have is wider than... Not ideally suited. Even the bandsaw, which is like the smallest of the tools.
00:33:08
Speaker
Maybe the drill press we could have picked up with that but I mean no attachment points Yeah, we just put on a hand truck and hand trucked it into the that drill presses is ungodly heavy it is it is it must weigh 250 pounds because the the shaft the tall shaft is solid the base is heavy and that motor
00:33:30
Speaker
It's basically like a cast iron housing. Like it's a it's the Voyager Nova Voyager DVR. So it's not like a traditional AC motor. It's some kind of I don't know what the hell it is. Right. I still don't know what the hell it is because I just swapped the plugs on it and it instantly knew to take 220. Right. It it's not like a traditional motor. So the whole top is just like this cast iron
00:34:00
Speaker
Case basically which has all the I don't know what it is Infinitely variable speed. Yeah, I don't know. What kind of motor is it though? Is it gonna have to look it up? Yeah Because people always ask me to and I'm like, yeah, I really don't know Yeah, why why are you looking that up? I'm gonna give a shout out to our dentist. Dr. Michael Keller
00:34:30
Speaker
prices went up on the Voyager yeah he was he was doing some heavy-duty work on me yesterday after work yeah I thought you weren't gonna be able to talk yeah you know I wasn't even bleeding that much it's cuz I'm getting I had some like gum surgery and got prepped for an implant on my lower right one tooth so the tooth that was
00:35:00
Speaker
that's going to have the implant had to be removed. And then they had to put some sutures and the gums and things like that. And there's like packed it with this stuff. He said, you look in there, it's going to look like silly putty. And I can kind of feel it with my tongue. But yeah, it was like an hour in the chair at least. You never start on time. No, especially over there.
00:35:30
Speaker
No, and you never get out fast. So just changing the plug took it from 1.75 horsepower to 2 horsepower. Oh, cool. It just says world's first smart drill press combines the best features of drill presses with state of the art technology to make your project work more. Direct drive motor DVR digital variable reluctance.
00:36:00
Speaker
Direct drive motor powered by Stryatec. That's not a real thing. Yeah.
Exploring New Shop Equipment
00:36:13
Speaker
Is a made up word speed 50 to 3000 RPM. There's an option in the settings to increase the speed to 5,500 RPM. So 50 to 5,500. Wow.
00:36:28
Speaker
Slow start pilot hole function, tapping assist function, digital speed readout, electronic braking, load readout, self-starting, digital quill depth readout, forward reverse, six inches of quill travel and two revolutions of the handle. I mean, it's a nice stroke press. It is. I love it. Yeah, it's, you know, you didn't, you didn't
00:36:51
Speaker
think that you needed a nice drill press until you use one and you're like, oh, this is nice. And it's it pars. Yeah, it's super quiet. Yeah.
00:37:04
Speaker
It's, you know, we never change the speed on the old drill press ever because it's belts. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. And then, you know, I mean, I don't know the right speed for every drilling situation. I don't I don't think I know the right speed. I mean, now I know some of the numbers because using this thing with this, you just pull up the menu, you pick what type of bit you're going to use, what size it is and what you're drilling. And it just says.
00:37:29
Speaker
All right. You're drilling an eighth inch hole in hardwood with a brad point. That's, uh, you know, 3000 RPMs. Yeah. What's amazing is the slow speeds. Yeah. Yeah. 50 RPMs like using the big Forstner bits. That's less than one rotation a second. Yeah. It's, it's very cool.
00:37:50
Speaker
Yeah, so you can use like a three inch Forzner bit and it's throwing these like beautiful curls off. Whereas if you try to do that on a regular drill press, you'll probably just be slipping the belt, you know, at a thousand RPM or whatever you have it set to 1500 RPM. Yeah. And the whole system where the weight of the motor tensions the belt, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. On those machines. I'm not a big fan of that.
00:38:19
Speaker
Yeah, that or you you shift it back. Yeah, this doesn't have any belts. It's just like it's more like a gets more like a drill like a cordless drill. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think those are direct drive either though. Um, gears. Yeah, they have gears. Like the
00:38:45
Speaker
What was it called? The armature? Yeah. It's spinning, but then I think that spins a gear and then that gear goes to another thing and then that spins the chuck. On this, it's like... The motor, it's like... The motor is directly connected to the morse tape. Like the impeller on the dust collector goes right to the motor. Right. Or like a grinder or something simple like that. Yeah.
00:39:11
Speaker
I don't know how we got so deep into this drill press thing. We're talking about moving. It was heavy. Yeah. So all those guys came and helped us move. It was pretty amazing. I mean, I was totally humbled by the amount of help we got.
00:39:31
Speaker
Yeah, Matthew brought us gifts. Yeah. Oh my God. Not, not a little trinkets either. These awesome mugs from the CW or no, no, not CW. Um, what the hell was that guy's name? I can't remember that. I mean hand thrown mugs. Yeah. It's like, it's almost too nice to use. I've been using it. It's my everyday now. Sorry, man. Yeah. The IKAG mug got the bump.
00:40:00
Speaker
I mean, it is nice. I have mine up on the table. You know, it's sort of like it's it's showpiece status right now. I mean, they're really nice. And this a handmade card from this woman. I think I think it was a woman. Yeah, I think so too. I'm sorry. I don't know these names. Yeah. Well, that was like bat bat something. Let me see. I'll be able to find it because I want to give him a shout out.
00:40:28
Speaker
Yeah, before we realized what everything was, I was taking it out. I'm like, look at the paper on this card. Like, I didn't know that it was a handmade thing at first. Well, I mean, you could kind of tell, but I didn't know the depth of it, I'll say. Right. Had like a flower pressed on to it. And it was it was really, really nice and special. Oh,
00:40:58
Speaker
Just coughs, I got a cramp in my face. Let's see, because I know Keith had posted about the card. Wow, the internet in here is horrible. Yeah. Well, I'll try and find it, but it's that block wall. Yeah.
00:41:25
Speaker
So yeah, so, um, we probably finished moving about what noon? Yeah. Grab some pizzas. Roma right down the block. Yep. Batflower press is the card. Yes. We hung out, had some pizza.
00:41:50
Speaker
Lou came by. Yeah, that was cool. Lou came to finally check out the shop. Brought a couple bottles of wine with him. He's always got a bottle of wine in tow, doesn't he? I drank some of that wine on New Year's Eve. It was good.
00:42:05
Speaker
Yeah. Um, Lou brought me a bottle of wine once, probably about a year ago now. And he's like, this is going to be a good bottle of wine, you know, blah, blah, blah. And he's, you know, a real aficionado. I'm not, but my wife loved it. So now like on three or four occasions, he's dug one out. He's like, Oh, I found another one of those bottles. And, uh, it's pretty funny cause he was talking. He's like,
00:42:34
Speaker
Yeah. You know, when I was inventorying my wine cellar, I'm like, uh, take a minute to reflect on that last sentence. I don't remember. I don't think I saw a lose wine collection when we went to his house. Yeah. Where is it? I don't know. I don't know. I've never been in there. No, no. I've never been in the wine room.
00:43:03
Speaker
Oh, yeah. But you've been a loose house. Yeah. Somebody still offended that they weren't invited to that barbecue. Somewhere down probably around Sarasota way. And now we know why. We're a little late to the party. Where is Lou's wine cellar? Cause he doesn't have a basement.
00:43:28
Speaker
No, he's got crawl space. Maybe I wonder if he has it upstairs. Oh, wait. Yeah. Upstairs. Yeah. That's right. It doesn't seem like a big enough space for all now. Cause he has like cases. Yeah. It's all blur. I mean, it's been a while. Yeah. That was, that's five years ago. I was telling him we, the three of us have to get together and go out. Yeah.
00:44:00
Speaker
You know, bring the wives along. Oh, that might be a deal breaker. Yeah. All right. The three of us have got to get together and go out. Yeah. No, we shall go to that place. Uh, what else is it called? Patricia's or whatever? Is that right? Yeah. He likes that place. Yeah. And then they know them there. So they'll treat us right. Yeah. Better.
00:44:31
Speaker
Yeah, and Lou worked on our edge band for a while.
00:44:38
Speaker
definitely helped, um, improve its functionality, but it's still not working right. Yeah. Um, Corey said he worked, he worked in a shop that had one of those exact machines and said some days it worked great. Some days it was infuriating. It's not a good side. Um, you know, we, we need to, uh, at some point in the future, get one of those know it all texts in here. Yeah.
00:45:07
Speaker
Yeah, so I guess flash forward to this week. I don't think, I don't think we're going to be able to do two episodes. We're not going to have another, another hours worth of stuff to talk about. So yeah, now this is the first week in the shop. Monday we came, we, we moved some stuff, residual stuff over for the first couple of hours. Just, you know, random crap that was still laying around at the shop. It was a lot more stuff than I imagined.
00:45:36
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, we took stuff out of the old shed in the back because Keith kept saying he's like, all right, everybody's here. He's like, what else you want to move? We're like, no, I think that's everything. But then, of course, you know, like, oh, shit, we need this. We need that. Um.
00:45:53
Speaker
So yeah, Monday we moved a bunch of that stuff and started, you know, trying to put everything back together. And what's today, Thursday? So I think Tuesday, while you were building that those cabinets, I put away a lot of the residual stuff. That was yesterday. Was that yesterday? I started cutting that up yesterday. What happened on Tuesday? Tuesday, we were still just trying to put everything back together.
00:46:20
Speaker
Yeah. So Monday, Tuesday, we, we, you know, we're getting everything back, put back together, everything put, you know, where it needs to go. Oh yeah. We had to put the table saws together. Yep. Set up all the machines, get some dust collection going. Yeah. Tuesday morning, I went to get the plugs. Mm-hmm. That's right. Cause we needed a couple of plugs. Um,
00:46:47
Speaker
And so then it was yesterday that was trying to find, you know, there's a lot of the little things don't have a home here. You know, it's like emptying out pails and stuff like, all right, where am I going to stick this? The loft came in handy. Yeah.
00:47:07
Speaker
And some elves were working in the middle of the night, I guess, to set up the podcast studio. Came in this morning. This carpet was down, the tables were here. It was really something.
00:47:26
Speaker
better to just get it here, you know, then have to schlep over to my house and it's just, you know, more time, more time away from, from
Projects and Adjustments in New Shop
00:47:36
Speaker
the work. We got a lot of work. So.
00:47:40
Speaker
and a little time to get there, as they say, and, um, uh, smoking the band. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, you made good progress on the wall units, be able to cut up the cabinets and, and then, uh, the face frames and everything, start putting those, putting finish on all that stuff. Um, probably Monday afternoon.
00:48:00
Speaker
Yeah, the doors, I wound up using a bunch of the off cuts from the countertops, which turned out better than the stuff I had earmarked for. It's one of those things when you're laying there in bed and you're going,
00:48:19
Speaker
Hmm I could use the ends of those boards and then you got a nice, you know color matching throughout the whole piece. Yeah But I wanted to say it came out better than I originally thought as I was you know Going through it yesterday. I was kind of like grousing to myself. Yeah, this is okay. This is good. I
00:48:42
Speaker
But it's a good match, not book matchy kind of thing, but at least we got some good tonal matches. It's not crazy. I hate it when you can't match up the woods when you're doing those glue ups.
00:49:03
Speaker
Yeah, luckily, we have a lot of walnuts. So we have the luxury of sort of picking shoes. We just got 350 board feet. Yeah. Whatever it was two weeks ago. Yeah. Was that two weeks ago? Oh, my God. Was that last Wednesday? I think it was last week.
00:49:29
Speaker
What was the day? Because you went somewhere and then I came here. I had to pick Ali up. Okay. So for surgery. Right. And then you came and we put, you got it in on with the forklift. We put it on the dolly. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause again, it was a 12 foot pack of wood and the door's only 10 feet wide. Need a bigger shop. Yeah. I mean, we've been jockeying stuff around because I mean, it's insane how fast it fills up. It's insane.
00:49:59
Speaker
The craziest part is to think we had, except for the edge bander and the sliding table saw, we had all this stuff over at the other shop. Yeah, I don't know how. Well, I mean, you could touch, you could be at one machine and touch another machine. Yeah. Doing a lot more walking. How many steps I got today? I can never figure out how to use this stupid thing.
00:50:29
Speaker
Corey said we would be doing a lot of walking. Yeah, only 7,500. Doesn't seem like that much. 3.66 miles. You're telling me I only hit 76% of my move thing, Apple Watch? So we're going to be walking like four or five miles a day. Yeah.
00:50:55
Speaker
Good thing I got these new boots. They have been treating my feet. Okay. Yeah. These standards aren't the most comfortable. Mine are Dan is too. I got like those light hiking style boots. These are a little more hard on the bottom.
00:51:14
Speaker
Yeah, these... I used to wear those Keens. Yeah, I don't like them. And they're pretty comfortable right out of the box, but I had a problem with them lasting. I had the same problem with Meryl's because I like Meryl's and they have a couple of hiking boots that have a flat. Those have a flat sole? No. Well, partial. It's got a lot of grippy stuff because, you know, they're meant to go trailing. Yeah.
00:51:42
Speaker
Like those people are walking through like, you know, they're walking on some freaking trail. They walk walking on the side of the mountain. Yeah, which is paved with their, you know, Patagonia got a $600 jacket on going hiking on a on a manmade trail. Yeah, I wish it was a little more, you know, flat. Yeah, that's what I have to have flat boots and shoes. I don't like.
00:52:12
Speaker
having a, you know, whatever. Yeah. March. These have been pretty good. I think I threw the box away. I haven't thrown the box away yet for these, although they're past the point of ever being returnable. Yeah. But I like... What the hell was that? Something fell in the shop.
00:52:41
Speaker
Sound like a golf ball. Oh, was it the time clock? No. What the hell was I saying? We were talking about these Danner's and the Merrill's. I don't remember. I lost it.
00:53:02
Speaker
and your boots are past the point of returning them. Yeah. Maybe I was going to say, yeah, I have been meaning to get rid of the box, but it's just sitting there and I'm like, yeah, I got enough of my plate to bring this box to the porch. Just can't handle it. Oh, man.
00:53:30
Speaker
So it's been a whirlwind. Oh, I know what I was gonna say. Yeah, I was gonna say I was like in the slip-ons. Oh Yeah, I my feet I don't like my feet moving around too much yeah, they don't really move they don't know I Don't think I ever had a pair of slip-ons. Yeah, those rock roosters. Oh was those slip-ons. Yeah, they're in my basement
00:53:56
Speaker
Mine are in the closet. I don't think I got rid of them yet. Those are about the worst boots I ever... Well, what are they compared to the indestructibles? Those are here somewhere. I gotta go. Yeah, they're in the office. Put a free sign on them, just leave them outside. Those won't last more than an hour and a half out on the sidewalk. Yeah. I mean, I only put on one of them.
00:54:25
Speaker
Those were like wearing like a tissue box. A tissue box that can stomp out a nail. Yeah, tissue box that you can hit with a hammer. The funny thing is they messaged me on my personal account, Crew Green Street, and then I'm like, whatever, I guess, you know, they're going to send these things out. I'll take them.
00:54:51
Speaker
because I forget what they asked for. Maybe it was just a post. So I just put up some stupid post, you know, whatever. Yeah. Now I'm going to give them away. Somebody, some less fortunate person is going to get a free pair of shoes. Then they messaged Green Street like a couple of weeks ago and I was like, yeah, I'm like, I'm not interested. No, thanks. I was hoping Brunt would get me another pair of shorts.
00:55:21
Speaker
Yeah, I, you know, I was looking at their slip on boots, but I really like the way they look. They have like a really bulky like top part. Like this is like all cushy and like, yeah, they're like a little bit taller that and it's just like everybody wears them. I just, I really don't want to wear them because of that. I understand. I want to be a conformist. Rebel.
00:55:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's just when things get to a certain level of popularity, it's like they start to lose credibility. That's right. I can't remember how old I was. You know, I was still fairly young as things go. I used to have four earrings. And then it was like you start seeing like kids with their moms with four earrings. I'm like,
00:56:17
Speaker
this just doesn't mean the same thing as it did when I got my ears pierced and so I took them out yeah well it goes from the subculture to the main culture yeah not everything but some things yeah so
00:56:37
Speaker
I mean, tattoos are somewhat normalized now. I mean, they used to be a real, real rebellious. Yeah. They were illegal in New York city until like the late eighties or something. Yeah. Yeah. And that little tattoo I have on my shoulder, I had to come to the New Jersey to get it.
00:56:57
Speaker
this and I mean I have no idea what town I was in or anything because I you know it was a bunch of us after work. Let's go get a tattoo. That sounds like a good idea. Yeah I had to go to New Jersey to get them. Yeah man I haven't been tattooed in two years maybe.
00:57:24
Speaker
Yeah, what was the last thing? Was the chisel or? Well, the plane and the saw. Yeah, that's some good work. Yeah, Chris is great. That was right before we went to Vegas. So that was...
00:57:47
Speaker
January of 2020. Yeah, that was right before the lockdown and everything. And then I went to Atlanta in February of that year for WorkbenchCon. It's amazing how fast the lockdown occurred because we were reading about it
00:58:10
Speaker
in January, like there's something going on over in China. And then in March, it was a lockdown. Yeah. Yeah. We did an install the Friday before lockdown. The confessionals. Yeah.
Pandemic Reflections: A Rapid Shift
00:58:27
Speaker
So it was March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy.
00:58:43
Speaker
How's the echo sounding now? So we just used to it? It's pretty echoey. So we are talking about this week.
00:58:55
Speaker
Oh yeah, so Monday, Tuesday, we were putting everything back together. Wednesday was yesterday. I started cutting up this little chicken job, which is a kid's store. Not a restaurant. Yeah, a kid's store over in Atlantic Highlands, a couple towns, towns over from here, next town over from where we live, which is just a white melamine cabinets with a Korean top.
00:59:24
Speaker
So I started cutting that probably about 7 o'clock yesterday and then when I left at like 4 45 All the cabinets were done. Well everything but the The boxes the boxes were done
00:59:44
Speaker
And the toe. Yeah. So today then I built the toe and I built the back panels and, um, and right before we did this, we cut up the Corian, got the seam glued. So into Mark, do the buildup and sand that up. And that'll be that it's going to actually, it's going to come down on a wire cause we have to deliver that on Monday. Yeah. Cause that's how long is that stuff got dry?
01:00:11
Speaker
only an hour, I think. And you can work it? Yeah. And what do you think about the Seabright? Yeah, we got that job going with the closet with the dressers on the side. Probably, you know,
01:00:36
Speaker
Should we put that before or after Nancy? Can we? Kind of got to be simultaneously I think. Yeah. So maybe Monday when we get back from the little chicken install, I can start cutting up that final cabinet for that as well as the Walnut for Nancy. Now we can't put that cabinet together while we put together with those lamello things.
01:01:00
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't even, it only needs those in certain spots. The rest of it could just be screwed through the side. It's got finished, finished M panels. So we bring it up, up to the second floor, put it together in the bedroom. Screw the M panels on from the inside, I guess. Yeah. And then that's that. Yep. Bob's your uncle, as they say. Yeah. Yeah. So a couple of spots we'll use the, the, uh, what do they call it? Clam X.
01:01:32
Speaker
That's the funniest. I think you're like Clamado whatever they say. Clamex. It's like I couldn't they call it Clampex or something. Yeah, it's like a food product. Clamex. Probably like Clamex. Yeah, and we're just saying it wrong. Clamex, yeah. Yeah, we met the one of the lamello guys at the Haefla thing. He I don't know. He didn't seem too keen on a green tree joinery. No.
01:01:58
Speaker
He's like, oh, yeah, you guys are on Instagram. He's like, yeah, yeah, we work with Keith Johnson. I'm like, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. That guy. Yeah, we weren't too keen on him after that. Anyway, I wasn't too keen on him before that. I don't know. I've heard he's a nice guy, but, you know, he's just another guy getting free stuff, but it's easy to make, you know,
01:02:28
Speaker
I don't know. It's easy to make stuff when you don't have to rely on making the stuff for your living. We have to make this stuff and sell it. He just makes the stuff and gets paid just to make it. Right. We have to design and build for sale.
01:02:48
Speaker
Yeah. I should put that differently. He's not getting paid to make the stuff. He's getting paid for the content he creates while making the stuff. So the thing in the end doesn't really matter. Right. Doesn't have any value almost. And again, I'm generalizing. I don't know this guy personally. I don't really know anything about what he does because I don't follow him. But that's my general feeling about those kind of people. Yeah. Don't sugarcoat it.
01:03:19
Speaker
Except guys like John. Because John is a real deal. He is. And that's the way it is in every trade, in every business, in every line of work. You have your hacks, you have your pretenders, and you have people who go to work earnestly every day and strive.
01:03:49
Speaker
Whether you're a dentist or a woodworker, plumber, lawyer. That's my bit of philosophical meandering for the day. We better get off our soapbox before we lose more listeners. I just heard ten more people turn off their...
01:04:18
Speaker
Well, whatever they're listening. That's that's all we got for you this week, folks. All right. Everybody take care. Yeah. We'll we'll talk to you next week.
01:04:29
Speaker
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01:05:07
Speaker
Ain't no shame, but there's been a chain