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OPE Season 3 Episode 26 Packers Welcome a Familiar Foe

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Aloha and welcome to another episode of OPE! On this episode we preview the upcoming game against rival 49ers at Lambeau! we look at offense, defense, give some over and under predictions and even tell someone to STFU!

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Intro

00:00:20
Speaker
Aloha

Preview: Packers vs. 49ers Showdown

00:00:21
Speaker
and welcome back to the AHANA Packers Edition podcast. today' but yeah Today's opponent preview is for the San Fran 49ers. packers
00:00:32
Speaker
ah The Packers, like I said, not their overall season, but they saved whatever chances they have to win the division by by a fingertip on Sunday as if by knocking off the Bears. And

49ers' Challenges: Injuries and Desperation

00:00:46
Speaker
this week it's another big game in terms of playoff seeding because basically at this point, I mean, they basically only have NFC games at this point. You know, you play the Dolphins next week, but you really can't afford to lose any more of these NFC games just because you've already lost three of them and you're chasing teams ahead of you at this point. so
00:01:07
Speaker
Green Bay's got to stay in the running and you're facing a desperate, desperate 49ers team, you know, the The easiest way to put where this 49ers team is, is this they are the epitome of the Super Bowl lot the super bowl loser hangover. They've been decimated by injuries, we'll get into that. you know Green Bay <unk>se still isn't playing anywhere close to A plus, forget A plus, they're not even playing B plus football at this point. And um and honestly, getting B plus football should be enough to beat what is a wounded duck 49ers team.
00:01:43
Speaker
and And again, just starting off as we usually do, we'll go over the injuries. You know, the big one today is that Jair was a DNP with the knee injury. No real update on that. We'll see how he trends the rest of the week. But honestly, at this point, I'm kind of thinking he's probably not going to play on Sunday. then you just have a whole lot of limiteds. one that's not The one that doesn't count is Elton. he was He's an old, so he got rest today. But otherwise, just a carryover of injuries from the previous weeks. And on the 49ers side, you've got a bunch of DMPs. The big one being that Nick Bosa is, I think, ruled out at this point. George Kittle said that he's going to play. Yeah.
00:02:32
Speaker
Yeah,

Rivalry Revisited: Packers vs. 49ers History

00:02:32
Speaker
I think they said that he's going to probably miss a few games. Yeah, they said that basically he feels worse this week than he did last week. and On top of that, interesting that Trent Williams is listed as a DNP with an ankle as opposed to just like old.
00:02:50
Speaker
Chavarius Ward, their best corner, missed practice with a personal matter. Christian McCaffrey got rest because they like do not have a running back rotation at this point. But Joe, I know it's not a division game and the Niners aren't, you know it's not the measuring stick it's been in the past, but I know we've been saying it almost every week for the last like month and a half, but big game for the Packers coming Sunday, right? Right. And you know, the 49ers are pretty well, uh, uh, rivalry. I mean, even going back to the nineties, you can call it a rivalry. And, you know, I, I'm sure a lot of people have still remember the, the rice did he fumble, did he not fumble, uh,
00:03:39
Speaker
and Thorell Owens and all that shit going on. So it is a big game because it would help get a little bit of the monkey off their back when it comes to San Francisco. Plus, a debt it is at Lambo. So you want to have a good showing at Lambo. And then, you know, go into the short week, because like you said, next week's game against Miami is again is on Turkey Day. So it's going to be a short turnaround for these guys.
00:04:09
Speaker
But yeah, just looking, I, I, they were saying that Purdy and McCaffrey probably have the best shot at playing. Yeah. But Purdy's dealing with the right shoulder issue, which is, you know, is throwing arm. And, you know, McCaffrey is coming back from the Achilles injury.
00:04:31
Speaker
But yeah, it's a long list of of thing of guys on their but ours isn't much better the one that surprises me with the Packers is the edger and Cooper hamstring because wasn't his more of a hip problem earlier in the season? Yeah, the hamstring was actually what he dealt with first first in training camp, I think, and then the hip came up later in either in preseason or earlier or later in or at the beginning of the regular season. So, yeah, not great. But you got to just do make do with what you got and
00:05:07
Speaker
Yeah, you know, the biggest thing for the Packers this week is it doesn't really matter who lines up for San Fran. It doesn't matter who you do or don't have on the Packers side of the ball. You've just got to execute cleanly and a they. They.
00:05:21
Speaker
You know, we we covered it in the the the game review. they They did a better job avoiding penalties this past Sunday, but still couldn't avoid a turnover and still are just struggling mighty in the mightily in the red zone. And

Packers' Red Zone Woes: A Persistent Problem

00:05:36
Speaker
their opponent this week is the team that is 0.06% better at scoring touchdowns in the red zone than they are. The the Packers are 27th and the Niners are 26th in the league in red zone efficiency. so
00:05:52
Speaker
just can't leave opportunities on the field. You know, as much as everyone talks about the under's miss and love throwing a bad interception on the final possession, it really comes down to, you know, you only score six points on your first three red zone possessions in the game, in the playoff game last year. And you just can't, you know, and it's it's a problem that has continue to hound the team coming in you know through the first 10 games of this season. They just have not been efficient scoring touchdowns in the red zone. And you've just got to convert against this team. San Fran, they're not by record a good team and they're not as dominant in their stats as they have been in the past. But this is still a dangerous team. And like I said, they're a desperate team because they
00:06:41
Speaker
You know, similar to Green Bay, they had a relatively must-win division game last week and they blew it and they've blown a couple of those. They blew last week's game against Seattle, but then they've blown one to each of the Rams and the the Cardinals and so they're in a very similar position to Green Bay and Green Bay's really just got to come out and put the hammer down on these guys and it all starts on attacking the San Fran offense and you know something we talked about is on the game review is Halfley's his
00:07:19
Speaker
Tendency to use soft coverage is a binky if Jair isn't playing and that that just can't fly this week. You've got to get up and challenge these 49ers receivers. know Brandon Ayuk is on IR.
00:07:31
Speaker
And Deebo has been not nearly as good as he's been in the past this season. And Johan Jennings, who I do like, has not been the same guy since having to step into that wide receiver two role as he was as their like third wide receiver win. you know he He was the one that basically made all the clutch plays on that game-winning drive for San Fran last year. once, Joe is the one with the visitor today.
00:08:00
Speaker
Oh, no, yeah like I told Mike before we started recording, I don't have my normal dog watchers because they decided to take vacation at the same time. So she's been spending a lot of time in the house by herself. And now she gets clingy. So adorable, though. But yeah, so the pack, you know, Halfly is going to have to change things up this week. I understand, you know, wanting to play it safe without your best corner, but you saw what this pass rush did on Sunday when the game was put on the shoulders of Caleb Williams. They got back-to-back sacks when, you know, Halfly pressed up and basically was like, okay, you're going to have to throw the ball with pressure.
00:08:47
Speaker
Every other time, you know, people are saying like, why doesn't he blitz or how come that blitz didn't work and stuff? It's because there was always a relief valve for Caleb to hit. And the whole part with blitzing is that you've got to give take some to give or give some to take some and You know, your gam you know it's it's it's a gamble that you're trying to hedge your bets on, and Halfly's just got to be a little more aggressive. I know the options that he has at his disposal aren't ideal, but I mean, I feel like you're in the same boat, Joe, that we both would like to see just more aggressive coverage and kind of dam the torpedoes approach that, like, you know, if you're going to get beat, like, just don't let this team slow bleed you to death because they will just bludgeon your face in if you allow the 49ers to.
00:09:34
Speaker
Well, this is where I'm sitting at. I agree with what you're saying, but this is where I'm sitting at. We need to stop seeing 99% of the snaps played by Keyshawn Nixon and more than I lost his name. More than 6% and 1% for Eric Stokes and Cory Valentine. We both talked about this on the the Bears review that why he just sticks with the same core guys out there when there are other ones riding the bench that, okay, they may not be the best in the world, but yeah you've got to do so something because Keyshawn is definitely not the answer. And I like Keyshawn. I like his attitude. I like what he brings, but he's definitely not a boundary corner. And for him to play 99% of the snaps over Eric Stokes is six. Corey Ballantyne is 1%.
00:10:29
Speaker
Uh, even Carrington Valentine, only he's played 72% of the snaps. I think I read, and so no, he played 89%. So, I mean, that just, you, I don't get the, I get that Halfly was big about, Oh, well, I love what I see out of niche Nixon. When he first, when Halfly first signed on as the defensive coordinator, but he's not showing it.
00:10:59
Speaker
and I don't and I've said this before I don't give a rat's ass about what PFF says I don't give a rat's ass about what analytics say He see he's not passing the eye test so Something's got to change on that whether they activate Rochelle this week they bring up one of the corners from or what's his name Hayden from the practice squad

Halfley's Defense: Too Conservative?

00:11:22
Speaker
and And and this is another thing that we should talk about real quick. I know I said earlier that we need to make a quick episode, but I'm going to go on. Why did they bring Alex Magoo back? No idea.
00:11:37
Speaker
I know they had the open spot on the practice squad, but you're going to bring a 28 year old guy converting to wide receiver for the first time in his life and has limited athletic ability when you could have easily brought in some young guy at corner that has potential and you could work, you know, you could, what's the word for it? You could, just take a flyer. Yeah. I mean, shit, if you're wearing a flyer and, and, and, and build them up.
00:12:09
Speaker
Yeah, or shit. Even if you're worried about like familiarity and how long it takes you can bring back on David Long, who was on the like playoff roster last year. He was on the practice squad for the playoffs last year. Wasn't he on? Isn't he on a practice squad though? Is he Miami's or something? No, I think you're thinking of the linebacker. I'm talking about the corner. No, no, I know what one you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure he is also on a practice squad.
00:12:37
Speaker
Let's see. That would be good to know. Oh, you're right. Looks like he's with the Colts. Yep. So there you go. But yeah, I knew something that Mike didn't know. So suck it. Fuck. There's your shut the fuck up moment for the week. But like, yeah, it, it, it. It doesn't make a lot of sense. Other ones out there that they could have that probably has the same familiarity that, you know, at least in the system, you know, you got Robert Sala in there as your, uh, advisor. Isn't, isn't there surely somebody that he's worked with that he could have said, Hey, you might want to bring this guy in. He, he's, he looks like he could be legit.
00:13:29
Speaker
but you bring Alex fucking Magoo back in. Yeah. And especially this week, you've just got to be more aggressive and make Purdy make some tight window throws because the the whole reason that he sat, not sat out, but that he was like, apparently he participated in like the conditioning part of practice, but he did not throw the ball much, if at all today is because they're like concerned. He has dead arm in the middle of the season, which is really bad for a guy who doesn't have the greatest arm to start with. And,
00:13:59
Speaker
has basically had Tommy John surgery, you know, he had a UCL injury a couple years ago in the playoffs. And like, if he's having so wait what did they listed? it It makes you wonder because he had the unconventional Tommy John surgery. He didn't have the legit surgery. He had that cage or whatever, that mesh cage that they put on it. And that's the thing is like, so it's like you said, it's the shoulder they're listing, but is it one of those, you know, we always talk about how like with leg injuries, it's just like overcompensating and you know, like soft tissue injuries tend to travel up the trunk of the leg kind of thing.
00:14:38
Speaker
Is this an issue where like because his elbow you know he might be his I don't know but if he's changed his throwing motion to protect the elbow is that extra mode that's put on his shoulder or is it just that it's you know he's got him crunched a few times in the last few weeks but either way don't let him get comfortable with warm-up throws out there tighten up the coverage trust you know okay I don't even want to say trust you guys but like give your past Russia a chance. And if you don't get it because the corners get deep, so be it. And that's the thing is it's like,
00:15:14
Speaker
You're not going to win a physical match with the Niners. you're just not Your team's not built that way. No matter how much toughness and dragging people out to deep water, Salah could have given your team in a month. You're just not built to be that team like the Niners are built to be that team. So like don't play the long game. you know Cobra Kai, it's strike first, strike hard, no surrender. and No mercy. No mercy.
00:15:42
Speaker
and The good thing is that Lafleur has had better success against the Niners under under Shanahan at home. I know we've only played him like three times two or three times in Lambeau with Shanahan. and of granted yeah The Packers have also had better times against them in season than it is during the postseason. Yeah. so And so like, but like I said, the thing it keeps going back to is force the issue on defense because don't let a team that's desperate to get back in the playoff race, you know, get comfortable and, you know, dictate terms.
00:16:22
Speaker
Green Bay has to look at this as not only their opportunity to keep pace with Detroit, Minnesota, but also this could potentially be a game that, you know, obviously there's still six games to go after this, but this could be a game that would be the straw that broke the camel's back and potentially is one of the reasons San Fran doesn't make the playoffs this season. And you've got to really approach it that way. And LeFlore, you know, he always beats up on McVeigh.
00:16:52
Speaker
start beating up on this fucking Shanahan and with the freaking fraud of a father and shit like that. I can't stand that family. Goddamn, 97, 98 Broncos and the most overrated coach at NFL history, but a side up.
00:17:10
Speaker
i

Shanahan Family: Overrated?

00:17:10
Speaker
just think he's a I just think he's an overrated sham, and I think that his son is a choker, but that's neither here nor there. I lost a lot of respect for Mike Shanahan after how he handled the Robert Griffin III. Oh, that was terrible. That was horrible. like Watching him play that playoff game was sad. like that That was sad. and Especially even with the knee brace on, you could see the knee completely buckling on him no matter what he did. Yup.
00:17:40
Speaker
but The other side of this too is that, and I'm not sure how injured he is or isn't, but Trent Williams was a DNP today with an ankle injury. And if he is any kind of limited, that San Fran O-line goes down a really dark path because he is alone the reason that they have a quote unquote good offensive line. The rest of those guys are nothing to write home about.
00:18:08
Speaker
And you just, if he is at all compromised, it gets really hard for them to do anything on offense. So, it all ties back into, control the line of scrimmage, but you also, by like, you can't, you know, game up front if you're just gonna leak easy yards on the back end, so.
00:18:33
Speaker
Halfly's got to show, because like I said, I'm going in with the expectation that Jaws not going to go this week. And I need Halfly to show us something that it's like, okay, like, I see that, you know, against, even against bad offense, Chicago's, Jacksonville's, you know, this sort of like, ah ah like, let it play out approach. It hasn't worked very well.
00:18:55
Speaker
got to put you know you've got to put the You've got to put the pedal down and force the issue against this Niner's offense. I say it all the time, no matter how well Purdy plays in this offense where Shanahan is spoon-feeding him big plays, you see it a few times a game that, and we saw it, and Green Bay dropped every freaking one of them in the playoff game, but the guy that he was at Iowa State that was just a bonehead at different times in games, he is still in there, and you've got a,
00:19:30
Speaker
apply pressure and tighten the windows on him to and and then take advantage of those opportunities, which I do think Green Bay has a much better secondary, especially at the safety level in terms of that side of it than they did last year. So

Eric Stokes: Underutilized Talent?

00:19:46
Speaker
you've got to take care of opportunities, but you also have to apply pressure to create them and ah ah really hope we see something a little different. Like you said, starting from, like you brought up, starting from a personnel side of it,
00:20:00
Speaker
I agree with you. Kishan's a great dude. Love the attitude he tries to bring to the team and all, but it's time to try something else at corner. Like he's, he shouldn't be playing corner next year. I don't really think he should be playing it at much more this year. Just go with, so I brought it up. Like if you're not going to play Stokes down the stretch here, just cut him already. Like it's doing neither side any good. And like, just chip them off for like a player for player trade before the deadline kind of like the josh jackson for isaac yada like yada wasn't a good player either but it's like you're obviously not gonna play jackson and stokes is kind of falling into the same doghouse as jackson has and it's like you're not bringing him back next year so if you're not willing to pay play him
00:20:52
Speaker
the back half of this season, you're not bringing him back next year. So either play him or, you know, shit, or get off the can kind of thing. So yeah. Like I said, Corey Ballantyne, cause Corey Ballantyne was just over 65% on special teams too. So he wasn't even playing.
00:21:12
Speaker
1% on defense, 67% on special teams. And I do think that's guess because I think, I think that's more because he doesn't play all the special teams. I think he's definitely on punt. I want to say he's on punt return, but he's obviously not on like field goal and P A T's and stuff like that. So, right but that just goes to show that he's not getting the playing time any more than anybody, you know, anymore that stokes is.
00:21:40
Speaker
And he was a guy that they relied on heavily last year when Jair was down and yeah, and Carrington was down and all that was going on. Then you've got the two guys on the practice squad in, uh, uh, Kaitlyn King and Kamal Hayden, you know,
00:22:00
Speaker
king I know you can't go off preseason too much, but you know he was the preseason darling so There's got to be something to it. I just I don't get and This isn't to say halfly system is bad because we've seen halfly system work tremendously But his decision-making right now on sticking with stuff that doesn't work You know, isn't that one of the first signs of insanity? Yep. It is doing the same thing over and over again and hoping that a different result happens. Yep. So I mean, it just it boggles my mind. You you rotate your friggin edge rushers like there's no tomorrow, but you won't do the same thing for your fucking cornerbacks. I don't get it.
00:22:52
Speaker
Yep, so it's hopefully, you know, we've seen Rashawn start to heat up a little bit the last couple of games. You want to see that continue to go. Davante has been a little quiet since he's come back, but you want to see if he can step his game up a little bit as well. And yeah, like it's it's right there for you. And you just got to go and take care of opportunities here. And like I said,
00:23:19
Speaker
This is a big one for Green Bay. And as much as we talk about the defense and stuff, I said it during the review show, it's on this offense to get it shit together. Jordan, you know, like I said, outside of that miss throw, I thought Jordan had a really good game against the Bears, but you cannot have red zone, you know, you can't have red zone turners against bad teams like the Bears. You really cannot have them against a good, you know, I know their record doesn't show it, but this is still a dangerous, better team in the 49ers and you cannot be turning the ball over in the red zone like that.
00:23:55
Speaker
And, you know, the Niners, they've lost a lot of talent, you know, like Eric Armstead, he's playing for, he's playing for the Jaguars now.
00:24:07
Speaker
Jevon Hargrave is on IR right now. I think Green Law has been kind of in and out of the lineup and so they're just dealing with a lot of stuff. up I think Reserve Cup is what I saw. Oh, yes. Yeah, he hasn't been activated yet. And then I think Hafunga is still on IR too. So it's you know not saying that it's going to be a walk in the park or anything like that, but you've just really got to take advantage of this and
00:24:36
Speaker
You know, there's 49ers defense. They're

49ers' Defensive Woes: Packers' Opportunity

00:24:38
Speaker
still aggressive. They still play with a mean streak. Green Bay has the kind of talent that you can get these guys, especially if Bolsa is out. And it starts with taking care of the ball. And Lafleur just has to not lose his mind at crucial points in the game like he did against the Bears. and love has to play within himself. And I do think we saw signs of that, you know, the the drive where they turned it over on downs in the red zone, know, on third down on and on face value, you're kind of like, oh, like, why didn't he try to throw the ball? Why did he take a sack, you know, running out of bounds for a no gain as a sack on a passing play? So, you know, but
00:25:25
Speaker
It's because it's like, don't throw the ball late over the middle. Don't throw the ball as you're running out of bounds and stuff like that. So it's like, okay, he's learning a little bit. and But yeah, you just gotta take care of the football and take advantage of everything. But what's the big thing you're looking for from the offense this week? Pretty much the same thing, no turnovers, keep the penalties to minimum.
00:25:52
Speaker
You know, hopefully we can get a little bit more at not saying I don't, I'm not happy to see Christian Watts and get his, his targets, but hopefully we can get back to spreading the ball around a little bit more, uh, you know, Dobbs and, and all those guys and get the tight ends involved a little bit more. And the decision-making again, going back to the decision-making Matla floor, making the play calls, you know, no more of this fucking handoff at the middle when you're,
00:26:22
Speaker
on a two point conversion or try to run an RPO on a four down conversion in the red zone and shit like that. you know Make sure you're calling the right place for the right situations.
00:26:37
Speaker
But you know really, i would love to see I would love to see a turnaround with Rashawn Gary. And I know you said the offense, but i Overall, you covered everything with the offense. So the defa with what really looking forward to this game is a turnaround with Gary, seeing that maybe, hey, I had my sack on a bull rush. Let's start doing the bull rush. And I think if even if Trent Williams plays, if he's got a bum ankle and Rashawn can put him on skates with the bull rush, he's going to feast all game.
00:27:19
Speaker
I know Trent Williams is one of the best in the league, but if he's on a bad wheel, a bull rush is going to end it. So you know I'd love to see that. But offensive wise, you pretty much covered it all. there you know Cut the penalties, cut the mistakes, brush the ball a little bit more. you know maybe I love seeing Josh Jacobs get a little bit more. and I mean, having ah ah the amount of carries he has,
00:27:48
Speaker
but maybe start running the dual, what they call the package when they put Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon in there. Yeah. Yeah. The pony package. Maybe do that a little bit more with like, you know, Brooks and Jacobs or Brooks and Wilson and, and get that going a little bit more. And just, this is the type of game.
00:28:13
Speaker
that I this week and next week I would say are the two games that I would pull out all the stops. You know, just just let it go, and that's not because the these are amazing, you know, amazing opponents and you know all that. It's just. Jordan's healthy. We need to see what this offense can do fully before we have to go against the Vikings and the Lions and the Bears again.
00:28:43
Speaker
So pull out all the stops, full bore into the in the the playbook and just let it rip. Yep, totally agree with you. And you're right. This is an opponent that you would have, you know, like in college, they call it a July drive where it's like, you've you've got a bunch of plays that you've been working on for months for a team. And I do think the Niners are that kind of opponent where it's like,
00:29:09
Speaker
Yeah. um You know, the floor is like, I've got some stuff in the bag for you. and
00:29:17
Speaker
Just execute. Roll it up on the sideline again. Yeah. That one play with Malik Willis was drawn right there on the frigging sideline. Do that a couple of times a game. Yep.
00:29:28
Speaker
Yeah. And like to add to your point about being a little more unpredictable, put Willis in the game on the goal line, like do some funky ass shit. Like I don't think you're going to hurt Jordan's feelings if you give Malik a couple of snaps here and there in red zone situations and. would
00:29:46
Speaker
Wildcat style where you line Jordan up wide, you know, extra wide and let Malik run it from the middle. And you could even do a couple of fucking plays like that, you know,
00:29:56
Speaker
down in the red zone, let Jordan run a friggin' router, let Malik run a route. What's it gonna hurt? Just don't get hurt, that's all. but Yeah, just don't get hurt. but i mean you see The Philly Special, what was that? You'd line up in the friggin' Wildcat formation, you'd run the quarterback out into the end zone, and it it was a given.
00:30:23
Speaker
so I could see that going on, but this these next two weeks is where I say just try whatever you can so you can prepare better for the teams that you have to go against the following weeks.
00:30:36
Speaker
Yeah, especially because that Lions game comes the Thursday right after the Thanksgiving game. So yeah, just try and get as many guys back on track. You know you brought up that Christian had the big game last week. And that's the thing is like, OK, so in terms of target balance, it might have felt like he got a lot of them, but Jordan only threw the ball like 17 times last week. And that that kind of goes back to my point about not letting San Fran just slow bleed you on de you while the Packers are on defenses because you know you let you let a bad team in Chicago do that to you last week and you only touch the ball six times on offense and it just limits the amount of times especially for a team that hasn't been operating efficiently on either end of the ball this year. You just need more bites at the apple and
00:31:29
Speaker
I just really want to see the floor, you know, whether it's playing with a little more tempo, playing with a little more urgency. Halfly just, you know, you that's the thing, you know, what was one of the things that we got on Barry for is it's like, just not adjusting to anything. And granted, his was when he had all of his, you know, good, his pieces on the field. I said, I understand why Halfly is calling his defense a certain way, but You can't just let guys have easy completions when they, you know, because they know like, Oh, you're going to play a soft cover too. So I've got whatever I want underneath. Got to change it up. You've got to, you know, like I said, take a stand and force the action in some regards. So,
00:32:14
Speaker
just don't, don't play on your heels this week. Be the aggressor, be, be out in front with it and we'll see what happens. I think, you know, Green Bay has the chance to, ah ah so you know, just really make a statement this week and they have the talent to do it. We've said it all year, you know, they're, not there are three losses aren't as bad as they look. There's been a lot of feet shot off. just with all the mental and physical mistakes they've made. And

Offensive Play Calls: A Key to Success?

00:32:44
Speaker
like I said, I'm not even asking for an A game. I'm asking for a B plus game because I do think with how wounded the 49ers are and how relatively healthy the packers are, you play a B plus game, you're going to win this game this weekend. So,
00:33:02
Speaker
Anything else you've got to look at for this one or you want to go into over unders? Well, we'll go into over unders here in a second, but, uh, to go back to what you were saying about, well, he only threw 17 times. He still didn't spread the ball around as well, because if you look at the targets, Josh Jacobs had five Watson had four, and then you go Dobbs to Brooks to Tucker one Wicks one read two. So, I mean.
00:33:29
Speaker
You know, I know that's a spread out with as little as he throw, he threw that game, but it's still, you want to see more diversity. Like he didn't throw anything to Wilson. and He didn't throw anything to either one of his tight ends. Really? I mean, he had the one target on k craft that ended up as an interception, but there's, there's just so much more that he could do.
00:33:56
Speaker
And I think that also goes back to like the conservative play calls that LeFlore was doing during the Bears game. So again, I know I'm sounding like a broken record. Just pull out all the stops. You know, I know they have like a two inch thick. Well, I guess it's not a playbook anymore. It's on a tablet, but motherfucker, I'd drop one of them dictionary size playbooks down and say, this is what we're doing this week. And, um you know, and.
00:34:25
Speaker
just go with that. so Same thing with Halfly. Stop with the conservative. Get a little bit more aggressive with it. Use all the personnel you have on on hand and and go from there. so but yeah We can do over-unders real quick. This is another week where I didn't plan for anything.
00:34:47
Speaker
but oh but I think when we can still go with the same ones over and over again and be all right with it. But we'll kind of change it up a little bit. With Watson's kind of breakout this past week, let's go ahead and set his over under at 75 and a half. I'm going.
00:35:10
Speaker
under just because I don't think he's going to get those same kind of target share like I think he'll still get targeted like four or five times but I don't think there'll be that kind of plays like he got last week I'm going to send him a little bit over and I think what's going to happen on one of them and this is me getting the prognostication going and you know the crystal ball out and the Swami hat going, I think he's going to end up catching one short and he's going to get yak afterwards. And then the rest of them are going to be about midre mid range catches. So he's going to hit about 80, 82 yards, but it'll be just a little bit over the 75 and a half. And honestly, it's possible what's it?
00:35:58
Speaker
This 49 are secondary, they're physical, they're tough, but they're not the greatest athletes in the world. So if you get Watson into any kind of space, it could be very interesting. Well, and like you were saying with the injury wise, they're even down a lot on their corners too. Uh, I was looking at that Dara Lutter Jr. Ambry Thompson or Thomas, uh, safety, Hufanga.
00:36:28
Speaker
they' be sort talking down a lot They don't have uh, yeah, they don't have their preferred starting safeties this season. So yeah, um It's an interesting one for them So yeah, I I can see him breaking one. So let's go Let's throw this one out there and maybe karma will make it happen Uh, we'll go rishon gary over under one and a half sacks Fuck it over
00:36:59
Speaker
I'll go with it. Cause like I said, if, if Trent Williams is debt is actually dealing with an ankle injury and it's not one of them Phantom things, that's just giving him a, you know, a, a veteran rest day. I think if Gary continues with the bull rush, Trent Williams is going to have a hard time planting the foot that he's got the ankle problem on and Gary is going to win the situation.
00:37:26
Speaker
Yeah, so just for reference, can't really take Williams' is his his practice his practice availability because he didn't practice at all last week and he started. so That won't be the good tell. It'll be you know what he's listed at on friday come Friday and know what teas how he's doing. So yeah, we'll see how that goes. But Roshan has actually had some success against the Niners. I know he hasn't always rushed against Williams, but he has some interesting plays against them. And he has I think he's gotten a sack or two off of Trent. So would be good to see him you know continue this upswing that he's had the last few weeks.
00:38:12
Speaker
Let's see.
00:38:14
Speaker
this one Let's do this one just because we're not sure what Purdy's ah ah situation is. And I know you're smiling because you're going to think I'm going to do the McKinney over under half an interception. But I'm going to one up you on this and say, we're just going to go the defense as a whole over under one and a half interceptions.
00:38:37
Speaker
I don't even know who their backup is right now. Uh, yeah, I'm not sure either. I know Josh Dobbs is one of them, but he wasn't the one that was active last week.
00:38:48
Speaker
But yeah, I'll go over, you know what? Yeah. Just cause they just need Halfly to be more aggressive. Well, it's either going to be Dobbs or Brandon Allen.
00:39:00
Speaker
Oh God, Brandon Allen, one of the Allens. Uh, good Lord for being in the league for eight years. He's already 32 years old cause he was in college for forever. So I'm going to say, I'm going to go over to, especially if Purdy's not in there.
00:39:20
Speaker
Even if he's in there, he's kind of compromised. And like I said, this is why half these got to press literally and figuratively press the issue. Press them. That's the that's the operative word this week. Press, press the the receivers.
00:39:36
Speaker
I mean, I agree. I think you know, two interceptions operate himself, but I think it the Percentage of chance goes up even more if they have to go to the backup. Yes, so And I think that's about all I got for over enders this week Yeah, so I do technically have a shut the fuck up moment, but I got to get The quote itself I Completely butchered that name Oh
00:40:07
Speaker
But basically um, I can't find it right now. I should have been a little bit more prepared, but it's basically Pat McAfee when he came out and said that, or he, he railed against Brian Goudekouns for not being a smart GM and how Joe Douglas was this amazing smart GM for making the moves he did to bring in Aaron Rodgers and the guys Aaron Rodgers wanted to be brought in.
00:40:35
Speaker
But

Gutekunst vs. Douglas: Who's the Better GM?

00:40:35
Speaker
guess who got fired this week? It sure wasn't Brian Gudekindst. And guess whose team is not in the gutter right now? It sure isn't Brian Gudekindst. And I will be the first one to admit I can't stand pack Pat McAfee for nothing. If he's on my TV, I turn it off. If he shows up at my feet, I immediately ignore it.
00:41:02
Speaker
I, not that I follow a lot of wrestling anymore anyway, but anytime he's on commentary, I shut it off. Uh, I can't stand the guy, but for him to be such a. well Blunt about it. It's such a Dick rider for Aaron Rodgers and blame everything on Brian Goudekinst and call Goudia basically a bad GM for cutting ties with Aaron Rodgers. Who's in the better situation right now?
00:41:32
Speaker
Jets or the Packers? it's not even close not even just saying that he's a bad gm he basically called him dumb like right you remember if he used the exact words but he for all intents and purposes said that you know joe douglas like you said he's a great gm he's a genius and go to consist dumb for you know whatever way he framed it, you know, whether he framed it as letting the Rogers situation get to where it was or getting taken to town and stuff. And it's also funny seeing Jets fans like try to, you know, apply heavy amounts of copium to the whole situation because they're like, oh, well, it came out as a wash because, you know, the Packers, all they got was Van Ness. I forget who they tried to say the second round pick was and
00:42:22
Speaker
and a kicker that you just don't read. Yeah, so it it just it just gets funnier and funnier, but yeah. it they can think whatever they want and it is what it is but like the Packers don't have to deal with that headache they don't have to deal with the cap hell for you know they're carrying the dead money this season and then next year there's no more dead money and stuff like that so right and it's so well that i was reading something today that the Packers will have enough money to sign another
00:42:57
Speaker
ah ah Xavier McKinney like contract next year without having to do any restructures or Releases or anything like that and one knock against good because it does come because The 21 draft was not great and the 2020 draft as well But I mean the 2020 draft you've got your quarterback of the future And fuck all the idiots who are saying, like, was it a mistake and all that kind of crap? Like, good shut up with all the Jordan love talk. It's it's going to be fine. It's going to work out really well. Let's, you know, let's see him play not injured before we make s scathing, stupid snap snap ah snap reaction type of takes on his contract extension. And
00:43:44
Speaker
You know, you've got money, like you said, to sign some kind of free agent and you're going to have to extend the Zactom, extend, know, we'll start working on a Rashid Walker extension and stuff like that. But you have the flexibility to do that. You don't have to say, oh. The big decisions on the wide receivers next year too, so. Yeah. But at least you're not like,
00:44:08
Speaker
At least it's, a okay, we cant we'll get one and it's not like, uh-oh, we have to pick the right one. But but if we pick the wrong one and we we'll lose the other one and we'll get outbid for that one too. So we end up with nothing kind of thing. At least it's we're definitely getting one kind of thing. And I know this will sound outlandish.
00:44:30
Speaker
those two are the ones that you definitely got to keep one of those guys and I'll let other people debate about you know I'll let other people debate which one is the more important one to keep between Watson and Dobbs but of that class and and the 2023 class you've got to keep one of those two guys because they're the pace setters for this offense. And honestly, if you could somehow keep both of them, that would be the most ideal outcome. And that's what not having Roger's dead money on your cap allows you to do as good. And so, yeah, who's the idiot now? Yeah. And it was an interview with Ian Rappaport Rappaport said something about, you know, judicants being a genius, uh,
00:45:22
Speaker
GM and McAfee McAfee was cross armed and really genius, you know Shit like that. So basically what we're saying Pat McAfee you probably are never gonna hear this I don't care if you do or not. Shut the fuck up. You are wrong quit riding Roger's dick Yep, so If
00:45:47
Speaker
I can only laugh at that situation it's just so funny because like obviously I didn't wish the injury on Rogers last year but the way it's played out you know outside of the injury oh god there goes Marisol's giving me away yeah Maricel's giving me away. I do not have a voodoo doll in the house, but outside of the injury, it is just hilarious how this this whole situation in New York has just devolved pretty much by the playbook that everyone in Green Bay expected it to, where that team's not nearly as good as everyone, you know, all the mainstream media thought or wanted it to be, and
00:46:26
Speaker
It is just a flaming wreck. And

Packers' Playoff Prospects: Still Alive

00:46:28
Speaker
the only question is, you know, whether that that flaming plane is crashed into the ground or if it's still somewhere descending out of the air at this point. But back to Packers News on right there. Yes, yeah no, no, that's a bad fun. yeah No, I'm a dad so I can make them.
00:46:52
Speaker
But circling back to our Packers. Like I said, it's just like last year, but they're obviously in a much better position than they were last year. They're still in position to deter, you know, they they control their destiny as a far as like making the playoffs and, you know, obviously the division is not in their hands because they blew the two games against the Vikings and the Lions, but making the playoffs, if they, you know, expecting them to win out is very tough, but if you win,
00:47:23
Speaker
if you win five of these games you should make the playoffs especially if they're all nfc games at this point and all division games as well so continue to take care of business and like i said you shouldn't need extra motion motivation for this game but if you do the packers can look at this as a potential like i said it's not a lock but you put the niners at four and seven at this point of the season They're at least three feet in the ground with maybe one limb sticking out of the coffin kind of thing. And you know your own playoff hopes and potentially ending and your opponents, that should be more than enough motivation to put your best foot forward this Sunday. But that's going to do it for us. We will have our
00:48:11
Speaker
our recap as usual. We'll record that on Sunday, release that on Tuesday. but Most likely we'll be doing the live stream postgame too. thank you i Me and Brian should. Yeah.
00:48:24
Speaker
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00:48:52
Speaker
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00:49:27
Speaker
Packers look to take themselves to eight wins on the season and what would what could be a season defining victory for and the floor looks to get another pelt on the wall um and you know just the beat old friends in old places I guess because Shanahan's been there for a while now at San Fran but just put this team out of its misery. they're you know Like I said, the Niners are suffering heavily from Super Bowl loser hangover. Put them out of their misery. And like I said, get yourself that much closer to the playoffs. But that's Iowa, Joe. I'm Mike. As we always say, gopa Go Pack Go and Aloha.

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