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Round 2—Still the Bears: Packers Preview Show
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The rivalry is back—and somehow, it’s still the Bears. 🐻⬇️
The guys preview Round 2 of Packers vs Bears, breaking down the keys to another Green Bay win, the biggest matchups to watch, and how the Packers can keep control of the NFC North rivalry. We dig into injuries, game plans, and what must go right this time around, plus predictions and a little respectful (okay, maybe not respectful) Bears trash talk.
It’s Packers vs Bears, take two—let’s make it hurt again. 🧀
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Transcript
Packers vs. Bears: Key Match Preview
00:00:02
Speaker
Aloha and welcome back to another episode of the Ohana Packers Edition podcast. Today, Joe and I are going over the opponent preview for the second head-to-head matchup with the Chicago Bears as the Packers look to wrestle back the NFC North lead.
00:00:17
Speaker
This, you know, they're all they're all important. You only got three league games left in the season, but this is really the last, like, big game on the Packers' regular season schedule. We don't know what the Ravens are going to be by the time the Packers play them in another week. And then the Vikings are just, they've just put two key contributors on IR, who and they won't be able to you know, in Metellus and Grenard on IR. So that just...
00:00:40
Speaker
further complicates things for the Vikings, no matter how much better they're looking in the recent time. But that's for another week. This week, it's all about the Packers and the Bears one more time. Soon to be Indiana Bears, potentially. I don't know. I'm liking the Des Moines Bears. That would be freaking hilarious, dude. Like change the orange to corn yellow.
00:01:06
Speaker
Well, you just do it like like the do like a mix of Hawkeye Cyclone colors. Yeah. So have like maybe the Scarlet and Gold or or golden or Black and Scarlet. That would that would actually look pretty dope, Black and Scarlet together. Yeah.
00:01:27
Speaker
But...
Injury Impact: Micah Parsons Out for Season
00:01:29
Speaker
You know, it was I was pretty dour and down after the Packers game on Sunday. You know, it was unfortunate they lost the game, but really it was what they lost in the game more than the game itself. And obviously, you know, the news was expected on Micah Parsons. He did tear his ACL. The Packers did just put him on IR today. We're recording this Wednesday night.
00:01:52
Speaker
And he's out for the rest of the 2025 season. You know, that's going to complicate things for the Packers. But the very good news out of Sunday's game is that the other injuries don't look to be nearly as bad as, you know, initially potentially prognosticated. Ironically, the worst for wear out of that is Evan Williams with a m an MCL sprain.
00:02:19
Speaker
I know he's saying that it's not as bad as the one he suffered in college, but an MCL sprain is still an MCL sprain. I do think he's going to miss at least this week, potentially next week against the Ravens.
00:02:30
Speaker
for you know And I just put that as a guy who, you know, he's an instinctive player. He's a field player, but he's not a plus athlete when he's healthy. And we've seen him have some issues getting over the top of coverage from deep half.
00:02:43
Speaker
And I just don't see the need to you know have him out there at a compromised level of athleticism when he already has his limitations and range. And you don't want him hesitating or second guessing when he comes up to support the run and potentially worsening that injury. you know i do so i do subscribe to Jacob Westendorf. If you're cleared to play, you're cleared to play. But I just don't think he'll be
Evan Williams' Injury: Updates and Concerns
00:03:06
Speaker
cleared, cleared. It would be more of like a I can fight through it kind of thing. I guess it depends on how severe it is. I know they said it's an MCL. I didn't hear what the severity is of it, but... All he said is that it's not as bad as the one in college, and that's not a great barometer because he tore it in college, basically. So it's like...
00:03:31
Speaker
Yeah, but even on like a grade one, it's still like a one to two slash two to three, depending on like how tender it And that's what I was kind of getting at is is we don't know the severity. And most of the time they're like three week injuries up to, you know, you're going to deal with it all season of long. But how is your pain tolerance going to handle it? And, you know, like Jordan did last year, we got to throw a knee brace on there. So how are you going to handle the knee brace?
00:03:58
Speaker
But i don't know.
Offensive Line Adjustments and Player Returns
00:03:59
Speaker
I... the packers are very conservative when it comes to injuries anyway so it it'll be it's going to be up in the air anyway yeah zach thomas sort of in the same thing he his comments after the game were kind of similar to evans where he said like i thought it was really bad when i did it but turns out it's not you know it's and he was more he the team and him seem more open to the possibility of him playing you know LaFleur it it's not a oh it'll be hard for him to go it was more of a we're leaving the door open we'll see where he's at but we do have contingency plans working a little more on that as we get into the injury report and then the big one is that Christian Watson participated and
00:04:49
Speaker
He all but said he plans to play on Saturday, which, you know, it's just honestly the irony of it is like his going down is what sort of started the cascade of that game going off the rails. But it is just really good that, you know, he's looking like he's going to be able to play as soon as this Saturday night.
00:05:10
Speaker
And, you know, in a you know you like I said, maybe you don't see Tom next week. The good thing for the Packers is that these next two games are against teams with not great pass rushes. So like, you know, I know some people are kind of down on Kennard, but I'm like, he came off cold off the bench. I know he's playing in the 6-0 line set, but he's there to run block and maybe kind of tag a guy as a helper and pass pro in the few plays, the pass plays they run out of that set. So he's coming off the bench cold in Denver, hostile environment, against the best pass, you know, sack production, pass rush in the league.
00:05:46
Speaker
And I thought he played better than Rasheed Walker. And I know that's not a high bar to to get over, but it's like, you know, people are saying like, oh, does Morgan need to prep? I think Morgan's prepping because they're one more, and you know, they're one more like step in a hole kind of thing from, especially at Soldier Field, from Morgan needing to play.
00:06:06
Speaker
I do think this kind of puts a damper on like him being able to step in at left tackle if Rashid struggles, but who knows? like they don't They got to win this game. you got to you know like I know that they don't have to win the division to get in, but it'd be really nice to have that in your back pocket. Second seed is still very much on the table. Unless...
00:06:26
Speaker
and done less You subscribe the history as a, what they call it, history as a flat circle or whatever. And you are you do subscribe to this being an exact replica of the 2010 season.
00:06:41
Speaker
And the Packers sneak in make their run, beat the Bears in the in the championship game and make and go to the Super Bowl. So... While it could be, but also with there being seven teams, it's just really hard to win four games on the road.
00:06:58
Speaker
Like four straight games on the road. Five if you count the week 18 game kind of thing. So, you know... There's still things in their control. And i I know that the Packers got kicked in the dick last week, but let's see how you bounce back kind of thing. But the rest of the injury report, so Tuesday was a walkthrough. so the irony is like this is like prepping for a Thursday night game, but we're actually getting like real quote unquote practices, unlike in a Thursday night scenario where it's like simulated and walkthrough and simulated walkthrough kind of thing. so It was good that, you know, there were a bunch of DNPs on Tuesday's walkthrough, but most of those were not a surprise.
00:07:41
Speaker
The DNPs is on Tuesday were Josh Jacobs, who is undoubtedly just getting rested. He did kind of shine some light that, like, yeah, he dinged his knee up a little bit when Hafunga concussed jo Josh Wiley on that early third down play.
00:07:56
Speaker
But, you know, he had his best run of the season at the beginning of the second half of the game. and i think LeFleur is just going to keep it on limited snaps.
00:08:07
Speaker
Unfortunately, Marshawn Lloyd, the so they did the thing where he took Parsons roster spot today, but that just allows them to put him back on IR without it being seasons like door shut season ending IR.
00:08:25
Speaker
So what that creates the possibility for is if the Packers make it to the second round of the playoffs, he could play. in the second round of the playoffs because he would be eligible to come off IR at that point.
00:08:38
Speaker
It's a very narrow thing. you know It's just a bummer. It's just a darn shame that you know he has been so injury prone. He can't shake this issue, even when there was such promise that you know he was back at practice and stuff.
00:08:50
Speaker
Honestly, this just feels like a punt to next year. try and re-strengthen, re-figure this thing out. And, you know, he's kind of playing for his NFL career at that point. But I think that does close the book on Lloyd for this season.
00:09:05
Speaker
Parsons was an obvious DNP. But then on Tuesday, you had Zach Tom, Lucas, Christian, Josh Wiley, Dontavian, and Evan Williams were DNPs.
00:09:16
Speaker
And, Flash
Defense Strategies Without Parsons
00:09:18
Speaker
forward to Wednesday. So like I said, Parsons goes on IR, so he's kind of off the list. But of those DNPs, you have Dontavian, Christian, Lucas all get upgraded to limited participants.
00:09:32
Speaker
Jaden Reed did get downgraded, but it was a you know personal family matter. i shouldn't say family matter. I don't know what the personal matter was, but he was, you know, he mispracticed. The team seemed to know about it kind of thing and stuff. No like issue there.
00:09:46
Speaker
And the other bit of good news is that John Williams, our rookie seventh round draft pick, had his 21 day open. Other bits of good news, Chris Brooks, well, that's not good Chris Brooks was a limited participant both days. Kennard was a limited participant.
00:10:03
Speaker
I feel like that's sort of a first, you know, he hadn't played that many snaps in a while kind of thing. And so the body's a little more sore on coming back the next week. Colin Oliver remains a limited participant.
00:10:17
Speaker
And Savion has been a limited participant this week. So good to see some guys either progressing during the week or in Savion's case that he's back to practice. And then in the full participant realm, Brenton Cox remains a full participant. Big news with... Parsons going on IR. Same with Oliver, honestly, because Oliver is more of that type of speed rusher that Parsons is and that they continue to progress and continue to and or continue to practice.
00:10:45
Speaker
Really good seeing Golden is listed as a full participant. Jordan is a full participant and one name not listed, especially with Brooks being a limited and... What's Jacobs being I do think he'll play but it's sort of like a they'll massage him through the week. It's good to see that Emmanuel Wilson is no longer listed with an illness at this point. So, you know, like you did mention Pierre Strong is out of elevations.
00:11:12
Speaker
Oh, great radio. Hold on. And that's the only running back on. Yeah, i was going to say that's the only running back on the practice squad. So, you know, they do have the option of signing him to the active roster. I don't think that would be the case, but never leave it out of the realm of possibility. Especially if it's just to nurse you through a week, but I think they'll be okay i'm getting through this week.
00:11:35
Speaker
And,
00:11:38
Speaker
Yeah. The other one is Josh Wiley. It does not look like he's going to get through concussion protocol if he hasn't participated in practice at all this week so far. So he'll likely be out.
00:11:48
Speaker
On the Bears side of things, the two big ones to watch are Romo Dunze and Luther Burden. Both were back-to-back DNPs to start the week.
00:11:59
Speaker
And... That's a big, big issue for them if both are not able to play because the Bears were already without Odunzi the first time the Packers played and Burden had a solid game against the Packers. So losing another weapon would be kind of a bummer, especially because DJ Moore is just so much of an afterthought in this offense right now. Yeah.
00:12:22
Speaker
Otherwise, not too many. The only other name of note on their injury report is that Tremaine Edmonds is... has his 21 day window open. I'm not sure what the likelihood of him playing is. I know that when we played the Bears the first time, Edwards was activated or was had his 21 day open off IR and then he did come and play the Packers that Sunday.
00:12:48
Speaker
I don't know if Edmonds is in the same boat. Oh, I lied. One downgrade for the Bears is DeAndre Swift popped up with a groin issue on Wednesday. So that'll be one... you know I know Manungay is like... They're more...
00:13:05
Speaker
I don't know if dangerous is the right word, but the way he runs is more effective against the Packers because he's the inside pounder type, whereas Swift is more of like a slasher, but he is their starting running back.
00:13:16
Speaker
And he and Manungai are one of those quote unquote thunder and lightning duos. And so losing him would potentially take some steam out of their offense as well. But The big thing for the Packers is how they're going to approach attacking Caleb Williams and this Bears offense without Parsons this time.
00:13:37
Speaker
And we've seen that from this team. We've basically seen this same Packers defense face the Bears twice last season with Caleb Williams. Actually, really only once because the second game, a bunch of starters didn't play or didn't play most of that game in Week 18.
00:13:55
Speaker
Sure. Yeah. Joe also did not participate in that game very much. The the literal fever dream game for Joe. But in all honesty, i think on defense, the Packers,
00:14:10
Speaker
I think this is one where it's going to drive a lot of people nuts, but you're going to see, especially if Lucas can play, Lucas, Rashawn, Inaugbore, it's going to be contain the pocket, and then you send one of Kuehre, Edge in there to just light him up and try and get him down and stuff. And the the way Caleb got most of his success is...
00:14:32
Speaker
You know, someone often, Michael, would get pressure, but they'd lose pocket integrity and Caleb would run out, roll out to a side and create a play downfield. And while in the end it did benefit you because he like still can't make reads, he can't go through his progressions quick and he doesn't make the right reads at times.
00:14:53
Speaker
But you don't want him living outside the pocket. You want to make him stay in the pocket, have to go through those reads, make him have to sift through your defense and prove that he can do, quote unquote, quarterbacking things.
00:15:05
Speaker
And obviously, you don't want him to just sit back there all day. But at the same time, you do want him in the pocket. so Really curious to see how the Packers play it.
00:15:16
Speaker
But as it was in two weeks ago, this is again a situation where it's like, go score Packers, go score on offense. You can't have what happened. You have to do like you did against the Bears a couple of weeks ago. You can't have a repeat where you get down to the red zone or the near red zone so many times and you're settling for field goals because you have mental mistakes, physical errors, penalties, whatever.
00:15:41
Speaker
That has to go. You have to score touchdowns. You have to put Chicago in a hole and take their run game away from them and force them to have to pass to get back in this game. i wonder I wonder if they may play more of a four linebacker set at times.
00:16:03
Speaker
that way they could they could rush one of quay or edger and with like a mcduffie while having either hopper or welch out there with quay you know, do it that way. Because, yeah, without Micah, you've lost your main pass rush that's going to move around. I mean, you're still going to get a little bit of pass rush from Rashawn, no matter what people are saying. He still does generate somewhat of a pass rush. it not It hasn't been great. It hasn't been amazing. And of course, it's not going to look anything like Micah's.
00:16:40
Speaker
But it's still generating enough push. Britton Cox, I fully believe Cox will play this week. he's He's been full participant or listed as full participant the last two days. Unless there's a major setback, I do see him.
00:16:56
Speaker
He's probably going to take the spot that opens up when Lloyd officially goes to IR. But the four linebacker set, I think, would help them out a little bit in...
00:17:08
Speaker
it It doesn't cause both Quay and Edge to be the main rusher and then you lose contain on like a linebacker or not a linebacker, a tight end or a, you know, Caleb getting out into the wild.
00:17:24
Speaker
But it also allows you to generate a little bit more of the A-gap blitzes that Micah was doing there for a bit. So that's where I'm sitting. I'm wondering, and you know, Halfley with his sly ways said, you know, well, we have we have plans on what to do without Micah. And I'm wondering if he might slip in some four linebacker sets. yeah i'm thats Yeah, I'm really curious to see if it's like a like you said, if it's a... Personnel change.
00:17:55
Speaker
do just think you're going to see a lot more of the stuff he did last year where it's a lot more of the sim pressures. Honestly, you know, and I know people are like, well, he had Micah, but I didn't like that he went away from those so often during the season when you had Micah because it's like, why...
00:18:12
Speaker
Why settle, I guess, is the way I would put it. Like, yeah, you have Micah, but you can utilize him in ways outside of just like, just go get the quarterback kind of thing. And it's worked a bunch this season. And, you know, I,
00:18:29
Speaker
They're not going to be better because you don't lose a Hall of Fame caliber player and get better on a side of the ball. But I do think Halfley is better when he's not complacent as a designer and a scheme designer and play caller. And the most effective this Packers defense was is it wasn't even that he was like all out blitzing or anything like that. It was just that, especially against a quarterback who doesn't process well and doesn't think quick, you know, get through reads quickly like Caleb. This is the kind of thing where you screw around with his eye discipline, you screw around with his pre-snap reads, and you can run him into pressure, run him into mistakes. And, you know,
00:19:09
Speaker
that That Denver game was a repeat of so many instances, not scoring touchdowns in the red zone, not converting interceptions like the Giants game from a few weeks. You get your opportunities this week. You can't let them slip through your hands. like it Any one of those interceptions changes the complexion of that game on so many levels. so And according to stats, this Bears team is not – hard to score on according to pro pro football reference they're 21st out of out of 32 teams so they're going to give up points so you've got to take them where you can get them
00:19:47
Speaker
Yep, exactly. that's That's really where I'm looking at this game is like, you just got to take advantage of opportunities and score. that's That was, even with Parsons, that was the best defense this team was going to have was to go and put points on the board because...
00:20:03
Speaker
Without Micah, you need to score to protect your defense. You don't want this defense to have to play in a back and forth kind of game. But with Micah, that was our frustration is it's like go score so Micah doesn't have to play the run. We've seen that he definitely can play the run all season, but why force it if you don't have to? And even more so now, you know, just like I said with in terms of like how many games, what games do they need to win? Should they win? All that kind of shit. It's like you run, you've you've lost All of your leeway at this point of the season, you lost your leeway in terms of like your team record because you lost stupid games to the Browns into the Panthers.
00:20:43
Speaker
You lost your leeway on defense because you lost your best player on that side of the ball by far to injury. so this team and i'm not saying they need to be like incredibly desperate but there needs to be a level of
Playoff Prospects and Strategic Focus
00:20:58
Speaker
urgency that we need to see out of them this week like i said you don't have to run around like your pants are on fire or anything like that you do need to keep a level head kingsley nixon like keep your head on your shoulders but also at the same time like
00:21:14
Speaker
You know, we you've already proved your better t you're the better team. i so Like you said, they're still the better team even without Micah, especially if Watson is able to go And even if Tom can't go, like i still think it it like I said, it does help that this week and next week against Baltimore, you're playing two teams that cannot rush the passer without blitzing. And even when they blitz, they're not that good at rushing the passer. So you've got to just, like you said, take advantage of your opportunities and make things happen. The one the one thing I'm really curious about is
00:21:50
Speaker
on offense they have found something with that 6-0 line look and i'm really curious how they go about still utilizing that unit with canard having to start and i know you threw out like does monk get the snaps my thought is like do you leave canard as the sixth offensive lineman and have uh morgan going at right tackle for those snaps kind of thing i know it's a lot of moving of deck chairs but it's like It's just an option because... or does Morgan play the tackle? I don't know what they'll do. I'm just really curious to see how they'll approach it because they've had some really good things with Kennard on the outside. And have no idea what Morgan's practicing during the week and stuff, but I really doubt they have a backup 6-0 lineman in regular practice. So it's like...
00:22:42
Speaker
What is the easier way to approach it? Is it easier to cross-train a second guy at that? Or is it just when you play, it's like in college when they do the linemen over shit and like your right tackle goes and plays left tackle, bumps the left tackle out and stuff. So really curious to see how they do it. knowing my Knowing my luck with questioning these kind of things, they're just not going to play 6-0 line this weekend. It's a moot point, but... They've they've got some...
00:23:08
Speaker
leeway with things because, I mean, you still got Donovan Jennings on on active roster. You still have Monk on active roster. i get what you're saying with with do you know do they slide Kennard over to play the six and let Jordan take... But I don't think they'll do that just because if by chance they have to replace Walker, then...
00:23:35
Speaker
you know, let's not confuse Morgan any more than he already is on some things. But i think there's guys that they could throw out there. And honestly, with Wiley out, I have a feeling that they're going to use a call-up on one of the tight ends they have on the practice squad.
00:23:58
Speaker
And which one was it that was... Was it Dabney? I think it's only Dabney at this point. It's only Dabney. Dabney's the only tight end at this point.
00:24:11
Speaker
No, you got that McCastles guy. or he's gone. McCallan Castles. Oh, I lied. You're right. He is still there. maybe I'm looking right at it, Quano.
00:24:23
Speaker
Right there.
00:24:26
Speaker
His fucking made-up double names. i couldt My brain just eliminated it from my eyesight. but I think when everybody looked at him and we were looking at him he seemed to be more of a Musgraves type, whereas Dabney was more of your in-line blocker type. So I wonder if maybe he gets a call-up and then he could play that sixth offensive lineman similar to what they did with Mercedes Lewis. so oh Honestly, there's a chance that both of them are up. Like, there there is a decent possibility that that both of them are elevated. But yeah, we'll see.
00:25:07
Speaker
i don't know I don't have much more. i you know the There's a reason that even like before we knew how bad or not bad those four injuries, you know the the Parsons, Watson, Tom, and Williams injuries were, there's a reason this game opened with the Packers favored 1.5 or 2.5, whichever it was. The fact that the Packers were favored shows like, yeah, the Packers are still the better team, even if they're down like four of their top five players on their roster.
00:25:36
Speaker
this overall roster talent is still better. And Jordan is that much better of a quarterback that it's like he tilts the game in the Packers favor enough. So I don't have too much more on that side of it. i'm I'm ready for over-unders if you are.
00:25:54
Speaker
oh Yeah, I guess the only thing that I'll add is, is you know, LeFleur is definitely going to have to trust Jordan in the game. i know that the early indications is they're supposed to be like 40 mile an hour wind gusts for Saturday. So they may have to lean on the run a little bit more. But, you know, also don't be afraid to throw it. Just be smart with how you do throw it.
00:26:24
Speaker
Now, i don't I'm not a weatherman, although I could probably play one with as accurate as they are sometimes. But yeah, supposedly that they were there's like a wind advisory set up for Saturday in the Chicagoland area. So you just got to be smart with how you do it.
00:26:41
Speaker
Obviously, you don't want to rely on the crippled leg of of McManus. So, you know, score touchdowns when you can score them.
00:26:50
Speaker
and And, you know, overall, just be smart about things. Don't be afraid to adjust. Yep. That's what I've got on the docket, too. Never tell me the odds.
00:27:05
Speaker
Take us away. Okay. So I again forgot to do these before recording because for some reason it didn't feel like it today was Wednesday.
00:27:19
Speaker
So my first one and I've got some of these set a little bit low just because of the uncertainty. Yeah.
00:27:28
Speaker
and Uncertainty and. And on top of that, the names that are being brought up that are coming back. So the possibilities are there. So the first one I got is Christian Watson over under 45 and a half receiving.
00:27:46
Speaker
I'm going yes. And I'm just because over under Mike, how slow are you? I'm looking at the last one again. That's why.
00:27:58
Speaker
Oh, God. I'm going over it just because even if his ribs are a little sore, Watson is just such a terrible matchup for them, especially because Kyler Gordon is on IR.
00:28:09
Speaker
And Jalen Johnson is great, but Watson can run away from him. So I'm going 65. I'm
00:28:18
Speaker
going to say under, but it's going to be at that 45 mark. I'm hoping... that lefleur kind of stands by the fact that he said that we got to get matthew golden involved a little bit more and and that'll help out and then like i said you know we went through the injury reports have savvion savvion is limited so maybe he's starting to come back from his injuries you know jayden reid's back he's looking pretty good You know, I'm hoping that the ball can again be spread around a little bit more to open things up.
Game Plan Adjustments and Player Involvement
00:28:55
Speaker
You know, with the uncertainty of what's going to happen with the defense, the playbook on the offense is going to have to open up no matter what the weather conditions are. So hopefully the ball can get spread around a little bit more on that.
00:29:09
Speaker
So, yeah, I'm going to go at 45. Next one is Josh Jacobs over under 55 and a half rushing. I'm going under just because I think that they're going to try and limit his snaps. Wilson's off the injury report. I know Brooks is kind of on there, but we did see Brooks get utilized as a rush or more. And if Sabian comes back, he's probably going to get some carries to take some load off of Josh. I just think that kind of like the receiving game because of Josh's injury status, LaFleur is going to limit his snaps and try to like spread the ball around in the rushing game.
00:29:48
Speaker
And see, I'm going to go over because even though they said that they had him on limited snaps last week, he still put up like, what, 73 yards?
00:30:02
Speaker
Yep. On the ground. was going to look at it real quick just so I wasn't sounding like an idiot when I said it.
00:30:10
Speaker
I think it was 73. But... Right. So... but right so Even with that, i think that it there's,
00:30:23
Speaker
I think we talked about this two weeks ago when they first played. The their the Bears' run defense isn't the greatest in the world. So if they can attack that, if and it seems like Josh got angrier when he got injured.
00:30:38
Speaker
And the angrier he was, the better he was in his quote-unquote limited snaps last week. So I think he's going to go over. I think he'll hit at least 65, maybe 73 again.
00:30:50
Speaker
maybe seventy three again oh This one's kind of hoping just because I'm hoping he can shut that Packers, Ike Packers or whatever his name is up over under half a sack for Lucas.
00:31:07
Speaker
I think if he if you plays and it seems like he's tracking too, I think yes, because I think Lucas will get the interior snaps. So he's going to have his chances.
00:31:18
Speaker
And I say yes to, like I said, I'm really hoping that he can come back, play well. And I'm getting tired of these guys that are, a lot of it is clickbaity. There's no doubt about it. It's clickbaity. They know they're going to get, it they're going to get interactions because of the shit stuff that they say.
00:31:42
Speaker
so so i I'm tired of hearing, oh, well, Rashawn's a bust. Lucas is a bust. This one's a bust. Well, no, they're not.
00:31:55
Speaker
Lucas even came back at the guy and said, you know, I played a handful of snaps for the first time in five games.
00:32:05
Speaker
Yep. So, all right. Am I at my last one? Yeah, I'm at my last one. This one's the obvious one thrown back on here again. Does Matthew Golden get his first touchdown this week?
00:32:19
Speaker
Do I need to start saying yes since I've been saying no and it hasn't helped? it hasn't been helping. and Yes. I'm going to go yes because, i like I said, i I've got to track with the kid. And I do think that they are seeing that, yeah, we got to get this guy involved more because he's special. And I know guys like Brian Moffey and that roll their eyes at that stuff, but the kid is special. He's got athletic ability.
00:32:53
Speaker
He's got football ability. The only thing he doesn't have is the six foot two frame. And Muffy did say that he's one of the few guys that he had as a potential to be a number one wide receiver out of this draft class. I think he had him and shoot, I think Tett were the two that he was like, yeah, I can see those guys becoming a number, a true like number one wide receiver out of this group. So,
00:33:19
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you know, Dusty's done a lot of good work on like, you can tell there's moments where he's definitely running the wrong route or he doesn't quite have the spacing and stuff. But even in those moments, he's open.
00:33:30
Speaker
Like it's the ultimate catch 22 where it's like. Well, it reminds me of backyard football. You know, when you're out there with your friends and you say, hey, go run this route.
00:33:41
Speaker
And they don't run the route, but they still manage to get to the spot where you make the play on it. And I and i jokingly responded to one of Dusty's... because and dusty And the one I responded Dusty, saying, like, he gets separation, he back shoulders out of a fade. This is a really good you know this is really good play, no matter who the receiver is, but especially out of a rookie who's missed a bunch of time as well. like The skills are there, the hands are strong, all that kind of stuff. The athleticism is dynamic.
00:34:09
Speaker
And... I did joke that I said, well, it's a good thing this quarterback will just huck it to whoever and isn't going to do the, yeah I don't care that he's open. He's not supposed to be there and like ice him out kind of thing. And, yeah,
00:34:23
Speaker
like jordan is it Jordan is honestly at... I just need someone to throw the ball to, please. like i don't think I don't want to say Jordan doesn't care because you know you do all the... like He does throw with anticipation. He does understand his playbook. He's pre-snap adjusting, all that kind of stuff. And he's expecting certain people to be in certain places.
00:34:43
Speaker
But you can tell that he trusts the kid already. like He's just putting jump balls up to him. He put two jump balls up to him against the Broncos and... one connected for the big slot fade and one was a big DPI. And yes, Broncos fans are anti Green Bay fans. It was DPI. You know, I don't. Well, I was going to ask you we have some Broncos fans that went over on our our YouTube oh feed when I put up the short of you ripping apart the Broncos for their stupidity and their assholeness. Do you want to call them out and have your say or you just want to let it roll?
00:35:21
Speaker
All I'm going to say is like those two things that they said. Well, there's a third one. So here, let me read them all. Okay. So the first main one is obviously that was a deserved shove. You run that close to me and through the middle of my conversation with a teammate on purpose. I'm going to return that disrespect back with a shove and a comment. And that's from a Caleb Sloan 8531.
00:35:48
Speaker
Then there's the Denver one from Denver one, w O n from ductless plush back. And then the newest one is from Zaya heat in M says, cry, cry, cry. Cause y'all lost.
00:36:06
Speaker
Yeah. So whatever. and Like, the for the ones that Denver won, like, okay, cool. It doesn't excuse the fact that your team is a bunch of dumb shits.
00:36:19
Speaker
And then for the first guy, again, what the fuck are they doing on the packer sideline and for the you choose to run through rashaan wasn't the first one to run through like or i don't think he was and even if he was it's the packer's sideline the teams always run right off the sideline on the field to their sideline when they come out of the tunnel And, like, it's not like Rashawn bumped the guy. And, yeah, to say, like, oh, we were having a conversation. You were clearly standing like freaking, like, banner holders on opposite sides of a finish line at a marathon. not to It's not like Rashawn, like, knifed between, like, shouldered the two of you apart or anything like that. So, you know what?
00:37:05
Speaker
Like, they can enjoy their 11-game win streak. They can, you know, yeah, you're right. You won. You get to talk shit and all that kind of stuff. But, Just don't cry to anyone else when someone does smack the shit out of one of your dumbasses for doing stupid shit like that. Like, that shit's on tape.
00:37:23
Speaker
And if those same two guys try to do stupid shit like that on another game, one of them is probably coming off with their helmet in crooked. So, whatever. Like I said... And, you know, what's annoying about that is it's probably AI or some kind of bot, but even if it's not, it's like you only listen to the parts you wanted to hear. Because I did say from the Packers point of view, you can't fall for that shit.
00:37:48
Speaker
Like, and death there were definitively Packers players who got too revved up. Like I said, Kingsley and Nagbarre, you cannot get pent up by shit like that and have strike three dumbass penalty moments during a game.
00:38:03
Speaker
Keyshawn Nixon cannot have his, he's already got his head running too hot for his own good. And you cannot give yourself extra reasons to go doing stupid shit in the game. So,
00:38:16
Speaker
Like, I think it's cheap and stupid, but at the same time, my bigger point was the Packers, you can't fall for that shit. And that's the only part that I'm kind of irritated at is I'm like...
00:38:27
Speaker
You missed the whole point of it. Like, yeah, I did call you out because I think it's stupid. And I think it was really dumb that those two ding-dongs were standing by our sideline and no, that reasoning from Caleb doesn't make any fucking sense.
00:38:41
Speaker
But at the same time, the bigger point I had was the Packers, you can't fall for stupid stuff like that. don't Don't stoop. Don't be idiots too. But whatever.
Community Reactions and Critiques
00:38:51
Speaker
And we didn't blame anybody but the Packers for losing. yup So it's not like we sit here and whined about Denver did this, Denver did that, and that's why the Packers lost. No, the Packers shot themselves in the foot. All I said about that is, like, I'm not surprised that a Sean Payton team went to Goon University again. kind of just who he is. Well, you did use some expletives and added. I do think that if he was the fat one, he would be the one taking shit, not McCarthy. I literally think that he gets off scot-free because McCarthy is like kind of a...
00:39:27
Speaker
dopey chubby guy like you know if you stand the two of them next to each other mccarthy's the dopey looking chubby guy and peyton you know peyton's older but you know he's the like more like he was the whiz kid all that kind of stuff when he was the offensive savant but it's like you look at who's actually had more like career success as a coach it's Obviously, it sucks because McCarthy didn't make it back to a Super Bowl either, but who actually made it to more championship games? Who outperformed expectations and stuff?
00:39:59
Speaker
It was McCarthy, honestly. so you know And McCarthy never got suspended for a season because he let his players get away with a bounty gate. Yeah. So that's all I was saying about your coach is that, yeah, he's still the same douchebag that I've always thought he was. Yeah.
00:40:16
Speaker
That said, like you know there's there's a song that I'm hoping we're getting to be able to sing come Saturday night. Probably sing it regardless of whatever happens in the game. But hey, like just go like I said, the goal for the Packers this week is get up off the mat, win this game, take back your lead in the NFC North, and just try to get the number two seed in the conference. like The one seed it's going to take Basically, you need sat you need seattle and almost said st louis you need Seattle and the Rams to lose two games in three weeks. So one of them is going to lose this week, and then you got to root for other stuff.
00:40:57
Speaker
It's kind of out of like it's out of the realm of possibility. I'm not even worried about seeding. Just get in the playoffs and be smart about how you play. I do just want as many home games, the the potential for as many home games as you can get, especially because...
00:41:12
Speaker
who would be coming to lambo potentially in those scenarios and all that kind of stuff so but i get that but their last super bowl run came on all away games so maybe that'll give them uh give them more hype if they do that again yeah main thing just No more injuries. like they're They're at the point, like I know there was a lot of, like you said, there was definitely an over-conflation of like how cooked the season is and stuff. My reaction to that was if they've lost all four of those guys, they are fucked. like They are just flat out screwed because that is too much talent.
00:41:50
Speaker
As long as you can, like you said, as long as you can get into the dance and the three guys who are not on IR are back, by the end of the I would prefer by the end of the season so you're in rhythm and all that kind of shit. But as long as they're back at some point for the playoffs and healthy, this team still has enough talent.
League Challenges and Defensive Adjustments
00:42:08
Speaker
And like I said, half of why I was so like down after the game was because of the injuries and it's just like you're so close to being there and you get hurt at the one yard line kind of thing. But the other side of it is this league is so inconsistent. Everyone is so hot and cold up and down this season.
00:42:24
Speaker
Even the Rams, Devontae is out with a hamstring injury this week and like... That's going to dog him for another couple weeks and stuff. So like, what's that? What's the there? Darnold hasn't looked. I know they just played, but that's how much of that is playing Atlanta. the The two games before that where he played some real defense, he did not look very good.
00:42:43
Speaker
So yeah, like we'll see. Or Atlanta was in the middle, the Colts on and then the Vikings of all teams. He didn't look very good against the two games around that. So it's like,
00:42:56
Speaker
just get in with your opportunity and like you said, just make the most of it. So yeah, just get in the dance, like you said, but I do want to see them take control of their situation and make the most of their opportunities.
00:43:13
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I'm in agreement. I, I, uh, Like, yeah, get in the dance. And that's all they need is that shot. And, you know, maybe they need a and I was going to call him McCarthy. Jesus. Thanks a lot, Quano. LaFleur said that or no, was it LaFleur or was it Halfley said that Micah was going to be around the building?
00:43:40
Speaker
for the rest of the season and you know maybe he needs to pull the old win one for the gipper type speech really get these going he just needs to be in like lucas i know was gonna say lucas and but no why it's on ir so he just needs to be in lucas's ear and like I think Lucas is at that point where it's like, he just needs people to remind him like, you're really good. Like you're really talented kind of thing. The technique, the, the, the skill level has been up. You can tell he's being coached up much better. He's being utilized to his strengths a lot better this season. and
00:44:13
Speaker
And I think Micah is one of those guys that he can just kind of like, kind of like flavor, flavor you up kind of thing and stuff. So, and, and,
00:44:23
Speaker
and There is one thing that I'm keeping an eye on is like, do Rashawn and Lucas get turned loose a little more? Like, were they being like within the pass rush scheme? Was it like funnel as much stuff to Micah as possible or like wall off for Micah?
00:44:41
Speaker
Because after Micah got injured, you did see Rashawn and Lucas kind of just like go for broke with like, you know, more like relentless pass rush moves more than we've seen either of them. Even when like Lucas, before he got help before he got injured, they kind of just went for broke with some pass rush moves in the end of that Denver game than they had at other points of the season. So I'm kind of curious to see how that looks.
00:45:06
Speaker
And like I said, Halfley's going to have to get creative again. And, you know, he was being a little more creative as the season went on. But right now, you know, you can't just expose the whole playbook, but he's got to go back to who he was last year and what this team was last year. And because, you like I said, you didn't he shouldn't have leaned on that luxury like he did all season, but now you don't have it.
00:45:30
Speaker
So, like, what are you going to do? I don't know if he leaned on the luxury as much as the luxury helped him. you know It's a chicken and egg thing. yeah Yeah. Because it's hard not to scheme things up for a guy that's constantly wrecking offensive lines and and that. So...
00:45:52
Speaker
uh but yeah it it is and i i do think and i also think it helps that lucas is getting a little bit more healthy as each week goes through and that's how why he can turn things up a little bit more yeah uh i do think even though they haven't been playing the greatest the the d tackles have been you know helping out in a way because they're not undersized they are actual d tackle guys in there so Yeah, it'll be interesting. I'm prone for a loop that it's a Saturday again. mentioned that, I am curious if like Riley or Bohanna starts this week because last week it was still, it was Brooks and Wooden.
00:46:36
Speaker
I'm really curious if they start one of the two big guys at nose tackle this game because you know chicago started to get some movement on the ground on inside runs late in the game they're still more of an outside zone team but i do wonder if halfley kind of says like no no we're we're going with beef to start the game and we're going to just shut that shit down from the start but we won't keep you guys here any longer We'll just put a bow on it. We'll do the recap show after the fact. And hopefully, like I said, we'll be singing the night away with a certain specific song. But, yeah, just, you know, we're going to do the, the post game show. please check us out on the website, Ohana Packers.org, us through the shop.
00:47:19
Speaker
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