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Everything Action Commentary: The Rocketeer
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For the latest Everything Action Commentary, Zach and Chris paid homage to the late Alan Arkin by watching the pulpy Disney classic, The Rocketeer.
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Tribute to Ellen Arkin & 'The Rocketeer' Discussion
00:00:34
Speaker
Hello and welcome to another Evanexy commentary. It's our commentary for July, 2023. I'm your host, Zach. I'm your co-host, Chris. And yeah, this month we are paying homage to the late, great Ellen Arkin, who at the time of this recording recently passed away. Just like, yeah, a true, iconic legend of some of the roles, some of the different movies and like,
00:01:02
Speaker
Broadway periods like using a huge Broadway career, but like so many different like appearances. But the one we were highlighting today is I think a favorite of both of ours, Chris. The Rocketeer. Yep. The 1991 Disney classic. And also, I guess, as a continuation of last month, because last month we did Young Ian Jones and the Mystery of the Blues. And this is also in that, like, you know, retro, like pulpy throwback style.
00:01:30
Speaker
Yeah, we got a theme so far. Well, this whole era was like, this was like post Dick Tracy. And then after that was like the floodgates were open. It was like the Phantom and the shadow and Zorro and all these other like movies were coming out like, yeah, all the radio serial heroes. Let's get them back. Those rights are cheap. They were cheap, but I'm not sure they did well. I know a lot of blowback came from this.
00:01:57
Speaker
Everyone was making those and trying to be like the next Batman and then it didn't work. None of them. Yeah, none of them worked.
90s Retro Movies & 'The Rocketeer' Overview
00:02:05
Speaker
Well, I think Zorro was like a huge success. Yeah. I think we both loved the Phantom, but the Phantom was probably not. I don't think that was a box office success. The Shadow was like, I don't think success.
00:02:22
Speaker
And then the Rocketeer, I think, was... I think it did well, but it didn't live up to the expectations of Disney, but I think today it's a beloved classic. And it also kind of ties into, it's July, it's Independence Day, Americana, this is a very patriotic, throwback America movie, all about stopping the Nazis and...
00:02:51
Speaker
the mafia who are so patriotic, they'll like help fight Nazis. Yeah, there is something patriotic that is where it's like, oh, we have a common enemy. Probably one of the most iconic shots of the whole movie is like the rocketeer, like from American flag.
00:03:13
Speaker
But yeah, we will. We'll dive into all of that. So we're on. It's on Disney Plus, obviously, because this is a Disney movie, so we are paused at zero. So if you want to get over to Disney Plus and get your get it synced up to 00 on the timeline, or if you have a DVD or Blu-ray of it, sync it up that
Syncing 'The Rocketeer' Commentary & Film Opening
00:03:30
Speaker
way. It's basically right before the Walt Disney presents, pictures presents, text comes up.
00:03:39
Speaker
Alright, so I will give a countdown. We'll get started here. So 54321 play. Just yeah, no, it's weird. I feel like like there's no like Castle or like production logos. It's like where's in where's in it? They made like their other.
00:04:07
Speaker
like rockheimer and um this was like a like a well i guess because it's like you know it's not touchstone or anything but it feels like a touchstone intro right yeah also joe josston who uh i feel like i feel like that was like if you couldn't like he was like the stevens gilbert protege and it's like oh we we can't we can't get stevens gilbert let's get uh joe josston here
00:04:34
Speaker
and he's definitely like very much in that like pulpy like throwback uh vein because he actually like actually directed an episode of young idiot jones he directed like obviously kept american the
'The Rocketeer' Aviation and Characters
00:04:47
Speaker
first avenger so i think his style definitely comes through between this and kept america just part three he did dress apart part three yep hey dalgo the wolfman
00:05:04
Speaker
Jumanji. So apparently this plane was so dangerous that they can only like like flight and landed like like limited the mer times. Yeah, they don't want too far off the ground. Yeah.
00:05:30
Speaker
Was it just like bad fiberglassing or legit that they used an original plane? I think just the style. I think especially that apparently the landing gear, it's insanely hard to land a plane with that kind of landing gear. Makes sense. They probably use an original plane then. And they're just like, this thing is not FAA certified anymore.
00:05:57
Speaker
Does the landing gear pull back or it's just like, you just had to like land it and then like ride it. Yeah. I think that's like before the landing gear was retracting. It was just like, all right, like, good luck on slamming that down. And then hopefully, um, your wheel doesn't just pop off.
00:06:23
Speaker
Also, who are the rest of this crew that like just we don't see for the rest of the movie? Yeah, aren't they? Yeah, they're like this first scene and then there's like not there anymore.
00:06:40
Speaker
Oh, not yet. Also, I think it just went bad a little ago. But like, Dave Stevens, who's like the artist for the original rocket to your comics is like a second producer. Apparently, he basically just gave them all he basically gave them every single like drawing and like, like everything you possibly had from like the rocket your comics is and then they basically just built everything based on his like actual like drawings and stuff. That's cool. I mean, you know, you didn't really see that back in the day. This sort of comic original artists to movie faithful annotation.
00:07:17
Speaker
Well, they did actually change that like in the comics, like Cliff's girlfriend was basically Benny Page. And they just couldn't secure that to the one I don't know, Jeff Colley. Well, the actual Benny Page is like, no, I don't want my name. I'm not going to have to write my name or like appearance.
00:08:09
Speaker
Was that like Vish? Did you play Campbell in front of a screen or something? They wouldn't send him up in the plane by himself, I don't think. You got to buzz the tower? Yeah.
00:08:38
Speaker
You know, I'll take Tracy's. That actor, I always forget his name, but the fact that like, I remember him from the Death Wish movies and he plays the same character and everything. There is a resilient that guy.
00:09:09
Speaker
kind of with that guy. I'm sure it's definitely like a character actor, but like, I kind of get like Oscar winning character actor, but there's like tons of other guys. I do like that gangster, even though that he knows what a plane is, he knows the FBI doesn't have like a side plane or something.
00:09:56
Speaker
Yeah man, old planes suck where you had to punch out your window.
00:10:09
Speaker
OK, like a polymer. So is Cliff like secretly a Superman
Plot Inconsistencies and Historical Analysis
00:10:16
Speaker
because he just punched out probably some like crazy resistant like tempered glass? Well, I mean, we'll get to it, but apparently he would like to stand like extremely high temperatures on his legs. It's like the Japan's not provide any sort of protection for your like like legs or body. Oh, yeah, he doesn't wear like a leather thing or this is like pilot outfit.
00:10:44
Speaker
Plus the G force it would take to do all this. So besides the helmets, like, no, like all your organs. You do appreciate, like, you know, this is a, like, a guy just got quietly cut down. Within the first 10 minutes, there was like a shootout with actual consequences. Yeah.
00:11:19
Speaker
Yep, this is why you shouldn't have a fixed ridge landing gear.
00:12:32
Speaker
Thank you for just catching up with me.
00:12:46
Speaker
It was even crazier. It's like this guy just told a test pilot that like get a real job. It's like he wasn't doing anything that was out of the ordinary. It was legit like a test pilot. Well, I think I think they they're like they're they're they're they're going to like air races. That's like how they would get money. Oh. So these air race like later on, at least in like the like the Super Nintendo game is like the first like three levels are just like
00:13:16
Speaker
Yeah, it's an air race. You got a race. Gotcha. They don't mention that he's an air racer pilot, which is a thing. In the 1930s, I guess.
00:13:45
Speaker
I decided to give that spruce goose. I said hop in. You know, it's funny now if you think about how like they basically model this as Howard Stark like they it's Howard Hughes, yes.
00:14:14
Speaker
Oh, well, apparently, apparently in the comic, um, like, like director is the same universe as like Doc Savage, Doc Savage trade the rocket back. Really? Didn't know that. I didn't know there was a crossover between him. I think a lot of those like golden, like that sort of like, I don't know, whatever like the error that is, or like, there's like the whole like, why come like, crossed over. They've been cross over with like recent years.
00:15:01
Speaker
You only made one, right? Yeah, the prototype. I mean, they'll get into, I mean, they'll get to later, but like, I don't understand, I don't get how like the rocket pack would be like this, like,
00:15:14
Speaker
Like we're gonna send guys a rocket packs onto the battlefield. It's like it's like this aircraft guns still it's like other things. Yeah, it is fuel. I mean you have flight yet. They can't fly across like the ocean to get like a carrier system to get a host.
00:15:37
Speaker
There's a jet on a plane and then at that point, why don't you say paratroopers? Yeah, paratroopers. Well, I mean, you can dodge with at least the rocket. Yeah, I guess you have more control if you get down faster, but. Again, yeah, there's obvious flaws with the rocketeer. As long as you're the only one with the rocket and then you're the only one fighting against regular people who can't move around a lot, you're good.
00:16:04
Speaker
I guess, spoiler, you'll see a lot of that. You see the right tier fight people who aren't running around.
00:16:34
Speaker
The seat was a wicker basket. Yeah. Also, how did you not notice this bag? You slam your ass on it. This is a different plane. No, but still, you try to sit on this, and then that's pretty big under a seat. Yeah.
00:17:03
Speaker
If I slam my ass on this, I would remember. Like, look how sharp this is.
Themes of Heroism and Patriotism
00:17:11
Speaker
I still remember as a kid seeing this and like, that's such a cool ass rocket thing. Oh, pretty cool, but probably super impractical because it was designed like the rocketeer with like the rocket back and then the helmet is just like, so goddamn iconic.
00:17:31
Speaker
You're right, look at this giant fire that comes out beneath you. You would burn your legs. Yeah, it's a massive flame. And all how like, you know, like burn the back of your legs up. What's that chairman of where that didn't catch fire? Asbestos.
00:18:04
Speaker
Wait, how did you know it runs on alcohol? It's cold? Maybe the smell? Yeah, I don't know. Dear God. Yeah, you can't enter this in a race. Like, if you show up for like a jet, like a flying race and some dude shows up in a rocket pack, it's like, you're disqualified.
00:18:50
Speaker
Also, are the feet the most vulnerable part of a statue that if you just saw off the like the toe part, you can just get the whole statue? It's like it's like less to cut than like the middle, I guess. Timothy Dalton. This is like five years after the living daylights.
00:19:20
Speaker
This is that was this is like big the first thing he did after like not being bought you all. I think it might be a TV show or something before he did this. But I think the American audience I believe so. This is like what 1993? Like one is when this came out. So yeah, it's like living daylights was like 86. Well, yeah, let's just kill the nine and then yeah, this is this is probably the next thing you did after this after that.
00:19:49
Speaker
Post post Bond. Bill and. Wait, no, I'm also thinking to me. Dothan also some flashy Gordon. That was way before that I was like 84 or 80. Yeah, that's but that's pre bonds.
00:20:18
Speaker
I'm glad that the team has gotten this like, you know, recently, like this kind of recent like last decade or two, he's gotten like this like resurgence. Yeah, it was cool to see him in other roles. And was he in, was he in like, yeah, and then a Toy Story, Mr. Prickle Pants, like all that stuff. You would have made a good cracking up too.
00:20:45
Speaker
I get that rocket and then I'm going to be in this movie called by breakout role. You guys are a real actor in this movie. I think he's supposed to be like Errol Flynn. Because they will get to it a little bit like he's in a movie where he's doing like this, like it's like a very like Errol Flynn like sword fighting like that was like a classic Errol Flynn thing. Yes, like it's weird that he is a
00:21:14
Speaker
a Nazi spy actor spoilers we're not really at this point but yeah because even at this point we didn't know that if I didn't just reveal that in this commentary for the first time it's weird that this actor also was like a mechanical villain it's like it's like bossy around the mob
00:21:39
Speaker
And he lives in like an Egyptian, what is this room? Yeah, he lives in like Egyptian theaters. But the like, like, this is the 30s. Like what? Who designed this like puzzle room? Oh, someone's listening to opera. That's not a good sign.
00:22:13
Speaker
Meanwhile, back in their Frankenstein science experiment.
00:22:50
Speaker
Yeah, look how close that flame is to the thighs. Yeah. And then it's just like the wind could fuck up your flame too and just burn the vulnerable parts of your legs.
Actors' Performances and Character Arcs
00:23:06
Speaker
The more I look at it, rockets are terrible. Oh, it's a completely practical, terrible idea. Jetpacks have come a long way where it's propulsion and it could be low,
00:23:20
Speaker
retrorockets, but that's a giant one full flame. I remember a style of like, it's coming out of like your extremities. You're not like burning like your body.
00:23:46
Speaker
Okay, another weird science thing. How did the rocket know how to guide itself to these angles? Like... Yeah, it went straight up. Like, it somehow loops around and came back. Yeah. And is it the weight of the statue that did this, or is the rocket a lie? I know when they, like, when they...
00:24:09
Speaker
In a little bit, they're going to like figure out that they're like, oh, you need to wear the helmet so you can directly direct where you're going. The helmet is like your rudder, basically.
00:24:48
Speaker
But did that happen from the crash or that like in a side story, some families horribly massacred by this like rocket statue. But his girlfriend's still like in like finishing school.
00:25:19
Speaker
Or is it, it might be like a, you know, they had like boarding houses for like, just, just for women or something. Yeah, she's another character actress. Mrs. Pie. Seen her in other things.
00:26:04
Speaker
This is like the hour that all the boyfriends are picking the girls up. She's like more guys. So why the guys outside? Yeah. Yeah. Like you see like more guys are just wandering into the scene. See like there's more couples showing up. That's like, Oh, it's just the cup. That's the pickup hour.
00:26:55
Speaker
Oh, oh no. It's Hitler. So yeah, the 90s doesn't even show like World War II footage. Wait, didn't the Hindenburg happen in the 20s? I don't know if it's actually the Hindenburg.
00:27:21
Speaker
See, they mentioned hydrogen gas. That was the Hindenburg. So Hindenburg was like the 20s. That's multiple zeppelins. Oh, but this is the Hindenburg and at this point. Yeah, here's the insane thing. That thing full of hydrogen gas, all they do in order to destroy this Nazi balloon that could travel to America is just one bullet shot to the, you know, like it's not, the Israel told you the vulnerability. Yeah.
00:27:51
Speaker
But that was like the way to travel across the ocean for a short time. I guess. Like you saw in the last crusade, it was very luxurious in a zeppelin before it
Set Design and Continuity Issues
00:28:05
Speaker
blew up. I think that, but it's like the same thing. It's weird that it's like, oh no, it's really easy to blow up a helium-filled zeppelin. That's not like a giant threat. Meanwhile, this...
00:28:20
Speaker
Dick Tracy Billard, yeah. Oh, yeah, pleasure.
00:28:59
Speaker
It is terrible doing chain back in the 30s. Like this was fun for them. They have keys. Oh.
00:29:30
Speaker
I love the weird shuffle. It's like not clean, you know what I mean? Like he's doing tiny steps to get to out of frame. And you still scale that like building as a giant, like seven foot tall man.
00:30:01
Speaker
Oh, he's actually in, was in Night of the Living Dead or Return of the Living Dead. Yeah, I think Margaret Martindale is like the owner of the diner. Oh, you're right. Holy crap.
00:30:26
Speaker
The sea is full of light, right? There are so many recognizables. If every character entered Hollywood. Ugh, dirty grease like monkey hands and then it's like in your soup. I haven't find the taste.
00:31:03
Speaker
You know, it's even crazy. He he he names like famous restaurants of the era, but there were other places between them, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, there's probably like a similar diner in like Los Angeles or something. This is like the top of the line, like club. See what I mean? Like.
00:31:35
Speaker
Why would you come here and eat with these people who are going to reveal you every fucking like real truth? Yeah.
00:32:29
Speaker
Is he mad that his inspiring actress is still inspiring? That's kind of terrible. You know where she lives, just go to her place. Yeah, if you have like this era, Jennifer Connelly, like,
00:32:55
Speaker
Do whatever you need to do. Go chase her and put a ring on her. What are you doing, Cliff? Don't finish her sandwich. Go back. Like, did you seek for opportunities, Cliff? Like... They live together?
00:33:27
Speaker
I mean, that wasn't that related. Like, it's just like, it's just like a, like Doc Brown. At least they're kind of within reason. Cliff's an adult, or a young adult, and Cal is, um, PV is, yeah. Cool older mechanic guy. Yeah. But he looks like Geppetto.
00:33:52
Speaker
Oh God, was it? Was it Tom? Like there's some line from like the top, like last year, Tom Hanks was like.
Technological Portrayal & Plot Dynamics
00:33:59
Speaker
It was like a better Geppetto than the Tom Hanks Geppetto. Yeah. Oh, I think it was like the topics was like, Holy Smokyo, Pinocchio. Oh my God, that was a line. Yeah, there's a new song that you put out saying it's like one of the lines was Holy Smokyo, Pinocchio. Holy Smokyo, Racketeerio. Yeah.
00:34:23
Speaker
Also, what is he making the helmet out of? It's like a... I don't know, like... Radiator? Maybe? Like a radio? Like... Whatever it was, he was able to hacksaw it, so it's not exactly the most sturdy metal.
00:34:52
Speaker
pee pee pee pee me there in one night
00:35:25
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's supposed to be like a parody or something of like, you know, like Errol Finn, like Robin Hood or something.
00:36:26
Speaker
You ruined the scene.
00:36:38
Speaker
Fucking bandit. Also, 1938, you just walk onto like a closed moving status. No one stops them, no credentials. Okay, yeah, you look like you belong in this medieval.
00:37:05
Speaker
Yeah, alright on the leather bound flight pilot that shows up in this movie pilots. I feel like editing wise they could have done a better thing. Like you have to do this exact same scene like 1000 times.
00:37:58
Speaker
So at this point he became evil after the head injury.
00:38:44
Speaker
Also, no, like her being banned a lot like didn't make him get stabbed. Yeah. The other dude. I think what he's describing is just a kite. You know, it's like he thinks he's listening on a rocket and it's like, I don't know.
00:39:21
Speaker
And thus, Cliff became Catman. Well, don't they both get kicked out, then? Yeah. Yeah, it's a good say way, like...
00:39:49
Speaker
let's just gonna wander around backstage for like a while. He's gonna just destroy shit on the way out. He's gonna destroy another like like movie set. Anyway, how are you not noticing this to me? Dothan like rambling behind you. Out of my way! Rock! Rock! I was bud!
00:40:28
Speaker
All right, time to put on the extra. Yeah, full bond mode time.
Hero and Villain Dynamics
00:41:08
Speaker
Yeah, this isn't Bond. Like, this is just a straight up Bond scene. Yep. But it is weird to see Bond look like this. This crazy wig, yeah. Do we adopt him with curly long hair from like, Montanio and Toga from like, right?
00:41:36
Speaker
Yes, the air racing. So it was close plan just to like strap on that rocket and just enter the race.
00:42:46
Speaker
It's the next day. Yeah.
00:43:00
Speaker
All right, I'm close. If I'm here, who's there? He's a drunken idiot.
00:43:29
Speaker
He's the town drunk. And he drifted into the race lane. Also, was Cliff supposed to be a clown? I guess. Yeah.
00:44:01
Speaker
He was like a kind of a cheerleader then. Like that was this job is to be the cheerleader. I think you're supposed to do like stunt flying or something. Oh, it's fine. The free wood is free.
00:44:30
Speaker
Like, did you see like all those microphones get shattered? It's okay, audience. You didn't need those people. Apparently that drunk clown was just doing the laps outside. That's the point of this like audience screaming in the background.
00:45:34
Speaker
It's like some kind of rocketeer.
00:45:59
Speaker
Why did you make your mask so it was kind of scary? I get it. Like protection, but you gave like the helmet, like teeth. Yeah. It's very, it's very like Japanese, like ultra man, like, yeah. Yeah. I'm a writer. Like, I like the oval eyes. Yeah. Like human eyes, like almost it's a
00:46:35
Speaker
I did the flying. You could definitely see the visuals, but this parts are cool. Like, this is a real guy. Like, it's your outfit. Having a fight. On a plate, yeah. My God. It's the worst. It's a good guess to just blow it up. That was $9.00. How much more does this guy last?
Action Sequences & Visual Effects
00:47:13
Speaker
This is the greatest stunt if ever believing what the stunt show says that this was part of the act. Yeah. These people are trying to like come to the press of like how amazing the show is. We got to tell everybody about this.
00:47:52
Speaker
a magic show or some sort of like monster jam like an air show an air show right and then you see a rocket man show up for us we're like oh cool they have a rocket thing i i just think we're so used to it but back then this fucking showed up and i'm like oh no like rocket man showed out of nowhere don't leave the fucking scene like uh promoter our rocket man exists no no strings it's
00:48:01
Speaker
He's a fucking man. He's a fucking man. He's a fucking man. He's a fucking man. He's a fucking man. He's a fucking man. He's a fucking man. He's a fucking man. He's a fucking man.
00:48:49
Speaker
Cliff, you dead?
00:49:50
Speaker
We've been calling Alan. Huh? Well, it's those PV. I should be calling out this whole time.
00:50:44
Speaker
Wow That's like family guy Literally he's wearing the same outfit, right? Yeah Yeah
00:51:28
Speaker
Just so he sleeps the door open. Yeah, nothing suspicious about this. Nope, standard office. How did you not notice the body?
00:52:01
Speaker
Yo, this is like more gruesome than I remember it being. People being like pretzels and then shot. This guy cut down the first five minutes and then this guy like, this guy cut a full half.
Music & Secondary Characters
00:52:14
Speaker
The guy in the house got like strangled and like hung to death. It's PT or PV he's been calling him. It's PV.
00:52:37
Speaker
Oh, I like his evening Geppetto outfits. Same one from the other scene. Inslee comes home from his mechanic gear. He gets on his English cut. Yes. Now, PB's the racketeer.
00:53:16
Speaker
Holy shit, it's the Quaker Oak Band, just piss.
00:53:54
Speaker
Yeah, he's like full job woo. I don't know, dual, dual buretas. And. He's like spray the house. This is like, you know, keep shooting everything, you know.
00:54:35
Speaker
This is what justice is. I do miss that like jazz clubs don't look like this anymore.
00:55:03
Speaker
Like, you know, you can't go to a fancy ball and you see this. Yeah. Like a dinner club. Oh, that was Clark Gable. Yeah. Holy crap. It's a little harder. Yeah, it's a little hard. I didn't know she was in this. Everyone's in it. I also know she played like actresses like a good thing, you know, like.
00:55:35
Speaker
James in this. I think it was pretty wasn't it like a couple years at like dark city was like a few years after this. Yep, maybe actually. Yeah. I think I think they dumped over Jeff. Jeff didn't actually sing. I think there's there's track where she gets sing, but they cover like someone else's. Gotcha. All right, cool, Disney like.
00:56:05
Speaker
Like if you watch like, which I think something we need to watch at some point is like the Three Musketeers, like 90's one. And Rebecca W. Monet's cleavage is like out of control in that movie. I also heard in real life, this actor was a scumbag. This is just like a girl drowning in the back.
00:56:32
Speaker
I thought that's a mermaid, not just some girl. Is this the same day? Because his jacket is different colors. He had like a purple suit. This is a gray suit. This is his eating like I'm a club owner suit.
00:57:12
Speaker
Is yeah, like a red purple suit. This is not that. He always that he's number three box office. You use ranking. I'm top three, it's fine.
00:57:42
Speaker
meet my owner, like apocalypse fault shelter. Well, this is the restaurant storage thing. It doesn't make sense, but it looks like an apocalyptic and like store shelter.
00:58:41
Speaker
I mean, you guys look suspicious as fuck, as you are hiding in the storage place, and then everyone's common boss is dead. You look like the rocketeer from this whole outfit. Change your coat, Elise Cliff. Like, do something. Change your pants. He wears the same pants and the giant, like,
00:59:06
Speaker
Like pilot boots. At least the rocket covers your torso with the straps, but your pants and your boots are just your pants and your boots.
01:00:14
Speaker
You know the the obvious guy in this whole group. Now they're ground they.
01:01:41
Speaker
Wait, what? Why is Jenny's like, it's like a weird like bathroom. Did Cliff do that? Did Cliff fucking just give away her like vulnerability point? For a good time called Jenny. Is that the, where like the song came from? It's except after your nine.
01:02:22
Speaker
Wait, wait, wait. So, like, the boss knows that Devil's Clear is at the Destiny's Club with Jenny. Yeah. But then they said the goons is there. And the goons didn't know that Jenny was there.
Historical Accuracy in Scenes & Costumes
01:02:34
Speaker
Like, they're like, oh! Like, oh yeah, that girl that I bought. Like, our boss is boss. Yeah, they put two to two together. Like, it's a girl from the photo. And then, like, I feel like this is edited out of place, right? This should have been, like, pre, like, before we saw them go to the Sophie's Club or something. Because he's just, like, right here for no reason.
01:02:52
Speaker
Yeah, now they just are, but they sort of hang out, but yeah, could it just move this out of the way?
01:03:22
Speaker
Do you think he knows what Jenny looks like? Yeah, we don't know what Jenny looks like.
01:04:12
Speaker
I mean, their relationship so far is not exactly the healthiest. That was like, just like so dismissive. It was just like, you're like a background actress. I know. That's why it's like, I feel like she just started her career. She just, if she's not the main actress, it's like, you still have to make it, you know, it takes time.
01:04:44
Speaker
Also, PV, you just literally fixed this like, you're better. See, it's the different night. He's got like a different jacket on.
01:05:09
Speaker
There was like multiple dates at the South Seas Club. Is there a second date here? I mean, Jay is in the same dress, so I think it's just like a continuity error or something. There is a giant continuity error. What about the woman that was singing like 20 minutes before? Yeah, where's Jay in?
01:05:39
Speaker
In another part of Hollywood. Wait, where did everyone go? Yeah. It's number three. We've started the world. Wait, when did the band get there? That is just there's appeared.
01:06:07
Speaker
There's a lot of continuity errors here because nothing's supposed to go on. Just silently watching them dance to nothing.
01:06:37
Speaker
It's not a private dance. All these people were just like, yeah, let's sneak into this. It's like, hey, guys, I guess we're dancing now. I do like the right interior's vulnerability is that we have to go indoors. You can't just be the right interior. I mean, if I could wear it, I guess it would be super cumbersome.
01:07:07
Speaker
But I mean, you can't really use the rocket indoors as well as. Yeah. And he. Yeah. And then he's not exactly like a fighter, like a boxer. He's not. You're like Bronson energy. I'm just I'm not like you're like a haymaker. Every punch is a haymaker. Like I don't know how to like counter. I don't feel like he just gets hit and then he'll just like I throw a harder punch in the next time.
01:07:57
Speaker
See, different jacket than that mob meeting, that the mob is also part of this club. And here's Jan, she's back again.
Character Development & Plot Twists
01:08:19
Speaker
Did you not enjoy our selection dance?
01:09:48
Speaker
I mind the bulging leather suit that's under the top.
01:10:19
Speaker
It's either soup, it's different greens. This is like champagne this time, right? Yeah.
01:11:04
Speaker
Right. So has it only been like, it's been like a day since he like did his like era rescue. Cause like, did you read the paper this morning? Like now I've been working and by working and I've been going to dinner with like, I've been here since 9 AM.
01:11:35
Speaker
I don't see my date. It's like, Oh, she's making out under with the bus boy. You know, I feel like it would have been a fun thing if like, just, I don't know who we'd play, but just if it's like, but we showed up. He was Howard Hughes. Like Tesla, like it's like a precursor to the prestige.
01:12:04
Speaker
I had to send a super dad at this point. He's just like one of the owners of like General Electric. Or he's like the band leader or something. That makes way more sense. That's why he goes out to this special lady right there. He starts playing Magic Dance.
01:12:49
Speaker
Like they know what he looks like. Cause he saw him at the club. Like, you know, like those guys are the same people that were in the diner. It's like they didn't know who Cliff was, but they didn't know who Jenny was. But then he realized Jenny wasn't until they went to like the diner and got like her number on the wall, but they had a picture. But that's been any kind of journey.
01:13:27
Speaker
I just the laundry room have like a steel door. Yeah. Couldn't be dead at that point, but yeah, you shouldn't.
01:14:10
Speaker
All those people you flew over would be on fire too. His flame is so intense it spontaneously combusts tables. He's a maniac! He's burning this place down. It's the ending for me glorious bastards.
01:14:40
Speaker
Guys, it's okay. It's just my jealous ex-boyfriend. He's just doing this to get attention. He told her that he's the racketeer, so.
01:15:31
Speaker
Did no one see Jenny do that? I can't see anything. Stand helmet.
01:15:47
Speaker
You can still shoot. Up until it starts raining glass on you. That is the smallest, like, flora form, like, faw. That's about how all the whole Sinclair dates ends.
01:16:22
Speaker
You haven't had the full devil and so you had this and just covers her mouth that is like hanky. Meanwhile, an escape room. Like this looks like the kind of setting from dark city.
01:16:56
Speaker
At least they didn't change your dress because that would just be like doubly creepy. I addressed you while you were unconscious. That's cool, right? I hope you don't mind I changed your dress. And you have a secret bookcase in this creepy house? Yeah. That's an easy, exploitable security flaw.
01:17:39
Speaker
It's after my nightly urban and staring at a woman ritual.
Villain's Motivations & Historical Context
01:18:08
Speaker
Here, get drunk if I drug you. Coriform, some smelling salts, booze.
01:18:52
Speaker
It is strange that he's trying to pull this narrative, but. Gaslighting error. Yeah, gaslighting error. Where's it going? Oh, we're both victims. Like how? Does like, uh, does Perry Mason have like incriminating photos or something?
01:19:20
Speaker
Was it like in the first episode was the guy like that had like that weird like sex eating like fetish thing? Yeah, yeah. He was a famous actor though. Yeah. Was that like, like, like Laurel or Hardy? One of those guys? Yeah, one of those guys. I like how she's a movie nerd that she knows like this quote from this actor. He's like, you can't trick me with your shitty acting.
01:19:51
Speaker
I don't know what women want, dresses. I took your measurements while you were conscious. I think this one will fit. Will this help you convince what we need? Or these clothes you don't own that I just have in my closet?
01:20:20
Speaker
Alright, get some Disney. I'm really trying to introduce some crazy shit. That's not really like a dress, that's just... Yeah.
01:20:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's devil time. What's with the lighting? Put on the 30s equivalent of like porn music. Bird.
01:21:35
Speaker
See, like they really make it seem nose and glare is just like an actor, right? Like he's not a supervillain the way he is doing this plan. Those houses just like maniacal villain house. Like it's literally like a bad player.
01:22:01
Speaker
Then he has like a living henchman that hangs out. He's like a full-on Bond villain, which is ironic. It's October 15th, by the way. Of what year? 1938. Because I'm part of the calendar. I thought calendars always had the year.
01:22:56
Speaker
You know, if you heard on the end of female voice that spoke English, you wouldn't think, you know, you're like, Oh, don't answer.
01:23:33
Speaker
And she's torn into two. If you were okay to really pay attention, you would just think, oh, she's dead. Like this giant man. Like he's done it before. That's his MO. Or he has dual pistols.
01:24:23
Speaker
She leaving the diner? I'm orphaned.
01:24:51
Speaker
You spelled okay. I thought you spelled Griffith like really all messed up.
01:26:00
Speaker
Not really. Sorry for what? A minute?
01:26:52
Speaker
Like, they ripped his toy off like Iron Man 2, too. I was like, I failed, I failed Iron Man's. That's the thing, like, this is, should be considered an Iron Man 3 film. Yeah. Wow! I guess, I think I just needed like, incinerated, like, he was like, on fire, but they were trying to put him out.
Final Action Sequence & Character Resolution
01:27:19
Speaker
Man, he bought this, I've died. Yes.
01:27:26
Speaker
Wait, the Nazis made a cartoon propaganda based on this thing that wasn't working yet? That is actually crisp animation. So there's enough fuel to fly across the ocean. It feels like we're going to trap the date.
01:27:55
Speaker
So you have an army of rocket men, but like we have, America has like, anti-aircraft guns and like, like, track aircraft. It's not like a nuclear bomb. I was saying like, the vulnerability is still, they're vulnerable to guns. Unless you like, make them iron men. As long as they have pets. Yeah. Let's say, yeah, unless you make them iron men.
01:29:07
Speaker
I'm a three box office star. Just paymaker to the chin.
01:29:45
Speaker
You put a human man under it. We see a giant man throw it down the runway. Give it a running start. He made a styrofoam. I got Paul Savita dressed up like he's going to the thing opera or something for this late night crime meeting.
01:30:14
Speaker
prime meeting change. God, that was clear as it's preached.
01:30:47
Speaker
What's stopping you from just shooting him? Yeah. Like honor? Oh shit, it's Cliff. It's the C chord.
01:31:20
Speaker
It would have been different if it was like a dummy or something. Like, doesn't matter who the man is behind the rocket. It's the drunk clown. I'm Cliff Seacord. I'm Cliff Seacord.
01:32:43
Speaker
Why does the secret room matter? Because there's Nazi stuff in it. I know, I'd be saying like, tell them about the secret room. Tell them about your secret room. The shoe here, so the movie, the mob.
01:33:17
Speaker
in the like California area or the coast. They've been here. I'm confused too. Like why hire the mob when you have your own German Nazi army? Yeah. I guess you don't want to like inform yourself as Nazi like immediately.
01:34:19
Speaker
Oh. That signal. Everyone's here also. How do they quietly bring up? Like the Bob, yeah, the Nazis.
01:34:52
Speaker
A girl we didn't believe was real.
01:35:49
Speaker
I do like this guy does look like a guy from Breeze Law. I feel like they're like families, like he's the little brother and the older guy got the Raiders job.
01:36:19
Speaker
Here we go. The money shot. It's coming up. Fuck yeah, man. This person make a flag.
01:37:14
Speaker
Why would they paint like the Nazi symbol so giant on this balloon that like you want to be stealthy?
01:37:23
Speaker
I mean, I think for like the Hindenburg had like, I'm not like, it's like, I mean, 1938, so they weren't at war with them yet. And they were like, not like, like, start yet. So it was like, they're just government of, of, of Germany right now.
Legacy, Cultural Impact, & Speculation on Sequels
01:38:03
Speaker
You know, he could fly away, right? Like he could just jump off and fly. You're like in Racketeer's like, element. Yeah. Oh, I guess like, they don't want to use a gun because it's like, Naples? No, it's not a good idea. Dusting down there.
01:38:50
Speaker
Grassland, Germany! I thought that was like a big extended like a new intro. It's probably just like, it's almost about discipline. Yeah.
01:39:53
Speaker
As a full on German accent now. So he was a he was a German acting as an English actor.
01:40:33
Speaker
Hey, why is it wet? Good, because he like, he like. No, no, but it's all the things where he's taking it, but it's like, obviously, it'll be going fluid. Yeah. And have a sequence again. Cross and punch, cross and punch.
01:41:31
Speaker
I'm going to smash every goodness cockpit. Why they're losing altitude is the air. I think it's like because it's the path full of fire to get it. I mean, now they're just killing. She made it from bad to worse, but yeah.
01:42:14
Speaker
Because I'm the actor. I'm America's third best actor, but I'm Jeremy's number one actor.
01:42:44
Speaker
I'm surprised he still had skin up until that point. Did the bracket kill him or did the Hollywoodland kill him? Because he was able to be on fire and conscious for a while while burning like a supernova.
01:43:29
Speaker
Oh, it's a humanity! How are you showing up in this fucking, like, cheese pod play? It's like a gyrocopter plane?
01:44:34
Speaker
Well, back in Florida. Say deferred.
01:45:03
Speaker
This is the next day, right? After the newspaper came and wrote all those articles. Are you still wearing the racketeer outfit? Yeah. Has that changed out for the entire movie?
01:45:36
Speaker
character is an amazing pilot. He landed in like the street and now she did here. The better talking. I know. Do I just wait here? What do I do?
01:46:15
Speaker
Don't know about the plane or the woman now. I mean, have you seen Jennifer Cavalier? I mean. Oh, those pictures of Jenny.
01:47:22
Speaker
Isn't that just a giant plan for the rocket like right in front of everyone? All these people know that he's a rocketeer, right? Like the town would know. Anyone want to hear my plans for the rocketry too?
01:47:51
Speaker
It sounded like World War II. That's coming up. So they're in World War II already, right? Yeah. Wait, no. Do they enter in 1940? I think it was, I mean, yeah, like early 40s, like 42 probably. I think we were in World War II. Holy shit. So you mean World War II is going on and America is just being an asshole with like this rocketeer business?
01:48:18
Speaker
This is the thing with the Indiana Jones movies. He was like, technically we weren't, we weren't in, like World War II hadn't started yet. Or it started like, America hadn't been in there yet. So like, and he's like, I don't, we're not, America's not fighting that, I don't care. Yeah, 1939 has been started then. I think what like, yeah, the U.S. entered it like 1940, like 1942 or something, maybe, or 1941. Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, the fact that America's like, oh no, we have like, Nazi,
01:48:46
Speaker
like eight sleeper cells here, you know, they should definitely be like, we should go to war. And they waited this long. Oh, Rick Baker made the Lothar makeup. All right, it looks nice. Yeah, it was very, I mean, it was clearly obviously like very Dick Tracy, like, like prune face or something.
01:49:50
Speaker
So did you ever go to Disney and see the MGM back slot studio tour? Um, during that era. I mean, maybe it was like super little, but I don't really remember it if I did. So this was like immediately put in that boneyard of just like playing and like the dog.
01:50:13
Speaker
like the dog shop thing. And it's just like, Oh, cause like the rocket here did okay, but it didn't do gangbusters and nowhere near did it get the cult following. Did it did now? I mean, does he put so like, they, it was, they wanted to be like the like event of like 991, like it said, you know, it had like the games, the like all tie ins, like the McDonald's, was it, was it like the, like, uh, is this for like 10 years and like probably some sort of like tie in, like,
01:50:43
Speaker
game or something or like. But yeah, I just remember this didn't do awesome and they're just like no. Like we're burying this thing. I think over the years people like rediscovered it and that's why it's. Back to this level again or a little bit more, you know? Yeah. I mean, for us, our biggest concern was the walkie editing. Of like one or two scenes where it's like, where is this happening?
01:51:13
Speaker
How long is this date? Like there's so many other things just going on and it's just choppy editing. But plot wise, you know, I still think it holds up. It makes sense of what happens and the level of like escalation in the two days is pretty. Like the original score of songs just by random things.
01:51:45
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think like it's like, you know, it's a real, real, real actual songs by then, but you know, in any modern day reinterpretation of it, there would be a weird insert of a modern song. Like a, like a sort of weird, like credit, credit song, like a cover of it or something. Like a big band song. But this is straight up from the beginning to end is just like the error music. Yeah. Like if that credit.
01:52:14
Speaker
Yeah, they do a great job of having that 1930s feel. I also like how this is not like the Rocketeer of a return. It just goes, I hope you enjoy, bye from Disney. I mean, if it did gangbusters like they wanted it to, I'm sure they would have done like a Rocketeer 2 or something, but... Yeah. I mean, as a kid, I did enjoy it. I mean, it still holds up to me, just in this factor.
Closing Tribute to Ellen Arkin
01:52:40
Speaker
Um, when you debate about logistics of why and rocketeer would be like around and deadly, like, not really. No, this is definitely like one of my favorites of like that, like the weird like pulp, the pulp, the pulp trend of like, get all these like radio serial, uh, like, yeah.
01:53:05
Speaker
To me, I think The Shadow is my favorite, like Pulpy kind of come to life, and it shouldn't be kids friendly, but they try to make it kids friendly. This one, I think, leans into both, and that's why I think it's more vivid, because, yeah, I think, what, the first 10 minutes is a dead guy, shootout, Nazis, like, it's a lot. Yeah, you never forget, like, that there's, like, a giant man, like, horribly burglary people.
01:53:30
Speaker
that's just like a guy he's not even um like a super villain that's just a man that exists in this world yeah and it's something he doesn't like dying horribly like a fiery fireball like i wonder if they did a sequel would they say that he didn't die he became like another villain he became the human torch yeah what would they do but they send a cliff to world war two or something you're like
01:53:56
Speaker
It probably like I don't know someone trying to steal the rocket tear tech But if you're not cliff like it goes wrong, you know, like it cooks the only one Well because he had the helmet I think like everyone wants to wear without the helmet But you know me like I think Timmy Dalton's flaw was besides the oil leakage was he wasn't wearing the helmet because that's how you steer and Think about this for a man who just strapped down a rocket for the first time with no practice He flew it pretty well up until exploded
01:54:28
Speaker
Yeah, I've read a bunch of the comics. I just I don't remember like what else happens like in the comics. Nazis keep kind of steal it. I think he barely just saves problems around the coast. It's not a complicated war with the rockets here. Yeah, I think you just fought gangsters a lot. That's like the meat and potatoes of the rocket. He fought regular people that just happened to be in his area. He didn't fight Nazis a lot. But when he did, it's like
01:54:58
Speaker
Alright, like are you going to go to the front? Yeah, I like to believe that this is the same error as like the Kingsman and like Iron Man and I can't like like like they were like developing. They're like development super solo serum at the same time as the rest. It's like they just start formulating it. They said hey. Here's someone I want to do like a digital insert of the rocketeer lore into the Marvel thing. It would be hilarious.
01:55:28
Speaker
Where it's like a world's fair scene, you're in the back, you're like, rocketeer technology. Yeah, this is pretty good. Like, I feel like it's still fun and poppy and we just can't get the fact that Jennifer Connolly is just underrated in this movie. And I mean, and then the rocketeer, if nothing else, like the rocketeers, like, look is just like instantly, yeah, it's recognizable. Like you see, like the second you see it, you're like, oh, it's the rocketeer.
01:55:58
Speaker
I mean, granted, Cliff just wore almost everything but the rocket and helmet, but he's essentially the same one. Change your goddamn jacket, Cliff. Yeah, I wonder if the comic, the original comic, did he change clothes, or just seriously, he would only make a difference with the helmet and the rocket pack. Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like, everything's exactly the same, except, like, you're not wearing the helmet, but it can be you.
01:56:24
Speaker
Who else in that town dresses like that? Like a pilot, like, like, like, like knee-high boots and, like, hand pants, like a, like, super distinctive leather jacket. Yeah, yeah, it's, he's dressing like he's going on a hunt, like a ground hunt, and the, from the bottom up to his torso, then on the top right, he's dressing like a flame handler, like rocket
01:56:48
Speaker
pilot, you know, like it's just like, where, where are you going that you're wearing this? It's California, by the way, where it's super hot out and humid. I think that wraps it up for us. Yeah. And then, yeah, I mean, I see RIP to Anark and he was creating this movie, great in all every movie he was in. So a true, a true like character, actor, legend.
01:57:17
Speaker
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01:57:48
Speaker
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