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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris are blowing stuff up with Bob Odenkirk and discussing 2021's Nobody as Nobody 2 arrives in theaters this weekend.

Odenkirk plays Hutch Mansell, a former "auditor" for various government agencies who retired and lives a mundane, boring life in the suburbs.  After a home invasion, he lets his old skills slip as he tries to find the thieves and inadvertently starts a war with the Russian mob, led by the ruthless Yulian (Aleksei Serebryakov).  Zach and Chris discuss how the giant collection of money, the Obshchak, is a real thing, the similarities to John Wick and Taken, what Michael Ironside's manufacturing facility makes, how everything might have been different if Hutch had a car, and more.

You can watch Nobody on Prime Video and rent/buy it on Fandango at Home and Apple TV.  Next week, we're defending Earthrealm and discussing 1995's Mortal Kombat for its 30th anniversary.

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Introduction and Hosts

00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of EverythingAction.com.
00:00:18
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the podcast week of August 11th, 2025. I'm your host, Zach. your co-host, Chris.

Overview of 'Nobody' Film

00:00:26
Speaker
And this week we are blowing stuff up with Bob Odenkirk and talking about Nobody.
00:00:30
Speaker
Because if you're hearing this, Nobody 2 is in theaters right now. And I think getting really good reviews or solid reviews. I was saying it's like a super fun and ah second entry in the franchise.
00:00:41
Speaker
But ah we're going we're going back to 2021, talking about the first movie. Which, yeah, the's the the crazy unlikeliness of yeah Bob Odenkirk becoming an action star.
00:00:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's the... um found the tradition of something like Taken where it's like you take an older actor pretty sure we're not really known for action packed roles and then you you add the John Wick formula to it.
00:01:08
Speaker
Yeah. Well it's kind of two separate trends. It was like The Taken trend, where yeah we'll we'll find like you know acclaimed dramatic actors or people who aren't really action stars make them action stars.
00:01:19
Speaker
And the John Wick, highly choreographed stylized action. And then they this one kind of combined both those things.
00:01:29
Speaker
Yeah. It's a winning

Influences and Comparisons with 'John Wick' and 'Taken'

00:01:31
Speaker
formula. um Because like it became like a genre-defining entry, where we saw we stopped getting Die Hard movies And now we've gotten the, like, taken John Wick thing.
00:01:46
Speaker
um And it's funny because, like, the more I watch this movie, the more I'm like, oh, it is sort of like taken. But then it's like, then it becomes John Wick. It flip-flops between certain parts. Only when the family's involved.
00:01:59
Speaker
but Well, pretty much i'm pretty much, like, most of the... A lot of the John Wick team is involved. Like, Derek Kolstad wrote it. ah David Leach produced it. So, definitely... it's It's in... It's more John Wick than in a lot of the other, like, John Wick, ah like, knockoffs or attempts.
00:02:17
Speaker
Yeah. It has the guys behind it.
00:02:22
Speaker
It definitely is a, like... a better...

Bob Odenkirk's Diverse Career

00:02:26
Speaker
Okay, not to say better, because each iteration they've made since the John Wick 1, since I think it's just the John Wick 1 team, not like the overall team, right?
00:02:36
Speaker
Because I think each John Wick, it's like, they always change some of the people. Well, David Leach has directed all of them. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, no, no. Chance Zahelski has directed all of them. David Leach directed the first one, and he went on to do, like, Deadpool 2 and ah Bullet Train and stuff.
00:02:54
Speaker
Oh. Yeah, because I think he likes more comedy in his action, where Chadwick doesn't. Chad Stahowski, yeah. Yeah, Chad Stahowski. He's very like serious, and it's like, the story needs to be dramatic action.
00:03:09
Speaker
Which is fine. like It's a different flavor. But with with this, it's definitely more comedy fighting. It's sort of like violent Jackie Chan scenes where...
00:03:20
Speaker
you use your environment to fight. Which, if you see the whole movie, I'm surprised Bob Odenker wasn't fighting with like a ladder an airhouse crane.
00:03:36
Speaker
I thought like certain things in the beat of it would be similar. Because like it opens with the golf club thing. or like okay not like One of the bigger...
00:03:48
Speaker
things that happen is that like, you know, Bob Oetker wheels a golf club and that, well, not really, but he has it. So it's like, it shows you that he's more like a guy who grabs whatever's around him.
00:04:01
Speaker
ah So I thought that that motif was going to be like more common, but you don't really see that until like the last part, the last act of the movie where it's like a whole environment thing.
00:04:13
Speaker
But yeah, like it turns out that like for Bob Odenkirt, he perfectly plays the like everyday man role.
00:04:24
Speaker
you know like it was one of those like surprise, like Bob Odenkirt got in really good shape. He got like this like famous comedian and sometimes like ah like like just like brilliant writer can now be in a John Wick movie if you train hard enough.
00:04:42
Speaker
Well, this came out and then it was... ah I think the next year was the last season of Better Call Saul. So he was, like, firmly in Better Call Saul, you know, ah time, getting Emmy nominations, like, becoming, like, one of the greatest actors, dramatic actors on television.
00:05:00
Speaker
Yeah, the guy from Mr. Show. make I think, did you also, like, supervise right for The Simpsons? I don't, I don't think so. I always confuse him, and there's another guy named Bob something that looks very much like photocurt.
00:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, I yeah mean, obviously I'll do Mr. Show stuff, and then um i think you hit like i think he wrote i think he wrote some stuff Serenite Live, maybe, too.
00:05:31
Speaker
I mean, I'm not going to disagree with you. I feel like that's true, because there's no way... He was a consultant on Tim and Eric Ops' show.
00:05:42
Speaker
Yeah, he has some skits. That's what I'm saying. He's got comedy chops, so... Well, that was the that was the crazy evolution, because it was like yeah, full full comedy, like, Mr. Show, like, just a comedic actor.
00:05:52
Speaker
Then Breaking Bad, like, he was, like, the comedic part of this dramatic show. And then Beck O'Sull, he's like, he's the lead dramatic actor. And then nobody's like, now he's an action star.
00:06:06
Speaker
ah So, like, he did start in Saturday Night Live. Like, that's one of his, like, writing roles. Yeah. And then he just said hey, I'll make Mr. Show after a few years of just getting a rhythm from that.
00:06:22
Speaker
and I kind of always thought he wrote for The Simpsons, just because some of the jokes and the deadpan things works for him. Mm-hmm.
00:06:35
Speaker
There's, um... tried the co like There's, like, David X. Cohen. That was, like... He went into the Futurama. I don't know, but... I don't know. Simpsons has, like, so many writers. Like, Conan was on there for a while, so... Yeah, I know Conan always brags about it or mentioned it in the past, but... know. It's those things where, like, I just assume he was, and I'm like, yeah, that makes sense for a guy like that.
00:07:01
Speaker
I mean, I always love his, uh, his appearance in I think i you should leave now. I think you should leave, yeah. Yeah, he's good in that. So, him in this is like a total 180 of I don't think he's ever done any action movie and if he has or if he's in a things with action he's the guy getting hit or like You know, he looks at the kind of character actor that, like, is always, like, he betrays someone at some sort of, like, deal and gets shot.
00:07:35
Speaker
yeah he Yeah, he was not involved anything even closer to, like, related like, action Breaking Bad or Break-off-Sell. Like, he was, like, either cowering in a corner or miles and miles and miles away from, like, whatever's happening his office. Like, he stayed far away from, like, whatever, like, shootouts or action was happening.
00:07:55
Speaker
Well, he He got kidnapped. So... Yeah. That was like the only big action sequence. lisa get a gun He had a gun to his head, but he never held a gun. and That's true.
00:08:07
Speaker
But yeah, he trained for two years to um for this movie. He did most of his own stunts, all his fight scenes, or most of his fight scenes. um He actually trained with Daniel Bernhardt, who is one of the like goons on the bus in the first like really big action sequence of the movie.
00:08:24
Speaker
You know it's funny? like Whenever i see Daniel Bernhardt in the last 10 years, he's a guy that usually like is going to get horrifically like injured or killed.
00:08:36
Speaker
It's a guarantee. In a movie or TV show, like he's never just a guy who just is around for more than a scene. she I think recently he's chosen for like one big, awesome fight scene, and then I guess like the that main action star, and then he gets killed by them.
00:08:54
Speaker
But it's like the best it's like one of the best fights in the movie. Like, Atomic Blonde, obviously, that that was like the best in that movie. Or arguably the best scene in that movie. He was actually he he's in Bail Arena this year, had a big fight with the And Armus.
00:09:09
Speaker
you Yeah, he was around longer than you think, but still gets the same treatment. And I... I kind of was like, is he the same guy from, like, the first John Wick?
00:09:20
Speaker
Because it's set in the same universe, and I'm like, nope, new guy, i guess. But least give him, like, way more distinct things. Give him a beard or something. Someone give him, like, a different haircut, because I think it's, like, the same haircut. he looks he looks the same but yeah he looks to same in every movie, it's this kind of, like, confusing, like,
00:09:38
Speaker
I mean, it's Stanley Burkhardt, but like is he the same character? like Give him like a scar or a different hair or something? thing but so he's like maybe Maybe he lived from the first events of John Wick, but we will never know.
00:09:50
Speaker
Maybe.
00:09:56
Speaker
But, uh... Yeah, but to start in Nobody,

Plot Introduction and Key Events

00:10:01
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so... and nobody so Bob Odenkirk is Hutch Manzel, who like like is like in ah major rut. I love the opening montage. It shows every day. it's just the exact same thing happens every single day every week. It's living goddamn hell of watching the same repetitive routine.
00:10:23
Speaker
Jesus.
00:10:25
Speaker
Which is actually not bad, because some people do live like that. Mm-hmm.
00:10:30
Speaker
buts like yeah he He always misses the garbage. like He always like makes breakfast, but then everyone everyone everyone leaves. like and it's like his his like His son is like doesn't like respect him, and his his wife is like super distant.
00:10:46
Speaker
But then their their house gets broken into and he has a chance to be one of like kind of hit one the the robbers of the golf club, but which I think you alluded to our earlier, Chris. But then he chooses not to,
00:11:01
Speaker
And then every kind of makes it even lose more respect for everyone's just like, man, you should have hit him. like Like, I would have hit him.
00:11:11
Speaker
But then you obviously find out that he analyzes the entire situation because he's this badass assassin. like He knew the gun was empty, he knew the gun was old. He didn't want to cause more attention to come onto him.
00:11:24
Speaker
Yeah, it made sense, because then it's like, don't think he's going to kill these people. And then it's like, They're going to find out. But you figured for a guy who was so like feared in the military in the underworld, they would be like, hey, you got to break in. Are you okay? like Someone should check in with this guy because he was such a like famous agent, infamous agent.
00:11:50
Speaker
You know what I mean? like No one cares that this guy is just loose in the wild. Yeah, because I don't think he... like faked his own death or right anything. i think He just like he said, like I'm leaving.
00:12:03
Speaker
And they're like, alright. You You should keep an eye on an asset like that. Yeah. Because I think RZA said he he faked he did he faked his own death to get out of whatever he was doing.
00:12:22
Speaker
um But yeah i yeah, it seems like Hutch just let him retire. that And then i think it later on the movie he says like he overcorrected. like He became too normal and mundane and boring.
00:12:34
Speaker
And that caused like like you know his family to like not like lose lose respect for him. And like not like and then like his father-in-law and his brother-in-law don't respect him. And he's yeah but they you like a zombie.
00:12:47
Speaker
I feel like they were not going to respect him regardless I don't know what he did different, because he was just like a normal nice guy. Yeah. It's not like he's constantly getting bullied by everyone.
00:12:59
Speaker
It didn't seem that way, right? I mean, his brother-in-law is a dick, but it's like, you can't yell your brother-in-law when your father-in-law is your boss, so I get that. You know, like, that's a reasonable, like, yeah, you can't you can't stand up against, like, the workplace bully.
00:13:16
Speaker
Even though he had a gun and everything waved in his face. But, um Yeah, just like the thing that broke is broke the whole, like, hey, the house invasion, that sucks.
00:13:30
Speaker
But he was smart about it. Like, honestly, like his wife knew what he was doing. Like, do you need to explain to his wife, like, why he did this? Well, that's that's kind of the crazy twist is that, like, Kai Nielsen knows his past or like some at least some of his past.
00:13:47
Speaker
i don't I don't know if he felt like he told her, like, oh, I was, like, an assassin for this like, every government agency. but like she like, she at least knows that he was, like, you know, doing so like something not not normal in the military. Yeah.
00:14:02
Speaker
I mean, you probably don't want to keep talking it up as, like, a normal conversation of, like, all the kills he did. You know, not going to be a great marriage. But, if it's one of those things like, yeah, I've got the training, I've got the experience, but like, I'm trying to move past that.
00:14:18
Speaker
And she understood that. And then, whatever reason, she was just like, I actually like the violent you. Like, it, you know, it's such a like, crazy message, because um the violence helped their marriage.
00:14:32
Speaker
But, like, you knew that. You knew he he did this. Yeah, him stomping it down and hiding it, like, but like driving it deep inside, like, his, like, rage and, like, his killing instincts, like, putting them, like, deep inside of himself, like, like, caused his life to get worse.
00:14:50
Speaker
Yeah, it's kind of weird, because I feel like in a John Wick premise, this is, like, the goal was to do that, to silence those urges and, like, the need.
00:15:01
Speaker
Yeah, because because cause hutch is basically yeah but Hutch is basically living what John Wick wanted. like He wanted to get out and have a life with this beautiful wife is and maybe have kids. i don't know if John wanted kids or not, but Hutch basically has like the life that John wanted. Yeah, and it's like not as funny. But now Hutch is like, he's like so run down by it and like like he's but like so like but get so boring and normal. You know you know what I think also happened was he decided to not have a car.
00:15:32
Speaker
um You know what I mean? like yeah um A lot of this movie could have been avoided if Hutch just had his own car.
00:15:40
Speaker
Probably. Because, think about it. The house invasion happens because of a pizza box for a garage that he doesn't really use because he doesn't have a car.
00:15:51
Speaker
He doesn't drive the car to work. So most likely it was the wife who didn't know about the pizza box. that's is It's a super strong pizza box that'll hold the garage door open.
00:16:03
Speaker
Or a shitty garage door sensor, though. just like Usually if it detects a thing like that, it just goes back It opens the way back yeah. It doesn't just like, I guess I'll stay here. That's a bad garage door.
00:16:15
Speaker
like That's how like people died in the 70s when garage doors didn't have like that like retract sensor and would just like kill people. but That's a thing.
00:16:26
Speaker
yeah like That happened a lot. More than you think. um Okay, so... Then, if he didn't have the car... If he did have a car, he would avoided the whole bus thing.
00:16:42
Speaker
So... car is what could have fixed this whole movie. Maybe.
00:16:50
Speaker
If he had, like, a sweet muscle car like his neighbor, that he eventually steals.

Setting and Significance of the Factory

00:16:54
Speaker
You didn't quite need the muscle car, but you just needed a car. Hmm. Unless the wife's just like, no, you don't deserve a car.
00:17:01
Speaker
We don't know. We only got like a glimmer of their marriage. Yeah, because she seems like a very successful like realtor. And then Hutch works as like the accountant for ah his father-in-law, Michael Ironside.
00:17:15
Speaker
it's always It's always great to see Michael Ironside.
00:17:20
Speaker
their... think it's Is it like a steel manufacturing plant? Or some sort of... So yeah, I was going to ask that. was like, what do they manufacture?
00:17:31
Speaker
Because it's all over the place.
00:17:36
Speaker
There's like rebar. There's, yeah, it's like, it seems they manufacture iron or steel or some sort of like metal there. It's like a metal manufacturing plant. But later in the movie, the big, the big like action climax involves what I can assume is bulletproof glass.
00:17:58
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Who made that? Yeah.
00:18:03
Speaker
It's like, I get in the beginning movie, they do like a Chekhov's gun thing where it's like, hey, we made this new stronger glass. and it's like, okay, we'll put it over on the floor. We'll deal with it later.
00:18:14
Speaker
or it's like, maybe someone stops by in the office and be like, I make really great glass. Here's this free sample of this bulletproof pane. Like, do what you want to it. or is or is that or Or is that like, is that like a like a you need like a shield for whatever manufacturing they're making? and Like, you need like some sometimes you need like ah something to protect yourself from the heats? or i dont Maybe. I don't know. But that was enough but that's they're not working in a molten like steel mill.
00:18:42
Speaker
No. So you don't need that glass. And and and i was like you know yeah and that that was a full-on like riot shield, too. That was not like a... like so Did Bob Odenker make that?
00:18:53
Speaker
Maybe. did Hutch just like throw together like frames and then make... make glass like when he was when he's like rigging up all the other other traps yeah see i just said he bought it and then just like reinforced it or did something as like just in case you know like whatever but i thought oh see like that's where i'm like the motif of he's good at using his environment but what environment just has like riot shield glass that i'm pretty sure a riot shield doesn't look like that like it's no very particular it's a very particular like panel of glass
00:19:31
Speaker
So what?
00:19:34
Speaker
yeah again it I imagine if the movie were different, like maybe the brother-in-law bought it as like a joke or like Michael Ironside was thinking about getting into the riot shield making glass or like bomb, like, you know, like 3M has like really great, like thick glass and it holds like a lot of like other things. Like they make really good plastic polymer glass that like is basically like bomb proof, bulletproof.
00:20:01
Speaker
certain thing or um not quite bulletproof but like anti like shatter from like the fragment so it's like okay because it's i mean that glass thing was magical by the end like when we get into it more i have notes about that that like wait what that's i forgot how it ends like that but yeah like but if the factory's making that like the hell's going on with this business because like um even bob was like oh you want to retire like And then even my car side was like, yeah, not yet.
00:20:33
Speaker
You know, we're doing okay. We're not selling yet. I need a really good offer, and that your offer's not a good offer. Because Hutch is constantly as like trying to buy the plant.
00:20:44
Speaker
Yeah. Which, I mean, it's a mystery factory. They're making who knows what. Yeah. But yeah, and the factory like is a... It definitely is like a nice like hint set piece because like if you didn't see the trailer, i think it's a nice surprise that they come back to it as like a shootout scene. But otherwise, it's just the mundane factory working in this mystery town that they're in.
00:21:13
Speaker
Because i I don't think the movie ever states what city they're in. I don't think so, no. he's Yeah, just like urban urban Urbanville, USA. usa Well, one part's urban, the other part's industrial.
00:21:26
Speaker
All I know is that their public transportation kicks ass because you can go up and down like everywhere from just the bus line. but's see It's implied that he's able to walk to a bus line. Yeah, from his house in the suburbs.
00:21:39
Speaker
Yeah. So, like, what? Like, I live in the suburbs.

Suburban Setting and Logistics

00:21:42
Speaker
Like, for me to get to the bus line that takes me to the city, I need to transfer, like, three different buses. Yeah.
00:21:51
Speaker
And it's, like, not an easy journey. That's why I'm, like, cars. yeah Jersey has notoriously terrible public transportation when it comes to, like, buses. Trains are fine, but you still need you might need to take two buses to get to the train.
00:22:06
Speaker
But, anyway, that's my transportation rant. And it's it's also a city where the, like, Russian mob is operating out of. Yeah, so, like, it must be, like, flowing with, like,
00:22:19
Speaker
money and drugs. The mob, the Russian mob. like ah like It's not even the local mob. It's definitely imported gangsters that came there. the but they They have their ah the ob shack, which is like all of their money.
00:22:36
Speaker
the entire Russian mob's entire treasury is in the city. This mysterious city that we still can't figure out. Also, why would you keep all of your money in one location?
00:22:52
Speaker
It's not like his money. It's like whatever collected family of Russian mobsters is money. Yeah, yeah all all the different like families and organizations pitch in and then it's it's it's used to kind of like settle like, oh, you're mad at this guy? We'll pay you this but amount of money from the ob shack to like settle it.
00:23:13
Speaker
Is that implied? Is that something that like they say? Or is that what an ob shack is? but Well, ah yeah, the Ob Shack is like an actual thing. Like, it's like an actual, like, Russian mob, like, KG, like, it's like, yeah.
00:23:25
Speaker
Oh, I did not, see, that's the thing. I don't know what the hell an Ob Shack was. I didn't look it up. I just was, like, assuming it was just some sort of, like, you know, just, like, word for account.
00:23:40
Speaker
you know You know, like, Ob Shack. was like, all right. Yeah, I don't know if they do the thing that they do in this movie where like ah like one person kind of like oversees it for a certain amount of time, then next person oversees it.
00:23:51
Speaker
But it is a collective um amount of money that like everyone kind of pays into and ah like takes money out of the settled things is a real thing, apparently.
00:24:09
Speaker
But before Hutch finds out about the Upshack and all that stuff, the big exciting incident is that his daughter's kitty cat bracelet goes missing. And then he he he believes that the robbers that broke his house stole like the the bracelets. that he like That's like his like straw that breaks his cat's back and he goes, like i mean I gotta find these people.
00:24:32
Speaker
like They took my daughter's bracelet. like That's it. I'm done. I'm gonna go find them and fuck them up.
00:24:41
Speaker
And then he, like, he knows, either he knows like, a tattoo on one of them, so then he's, like, going around to different tattoo parlors, which that one, the last scene is great, where, like, the guy, like, recognizes, like, Hutch's tattoo, which is, like and this just like, locks himself in that room.
00:24:55
Speaker
That's, like, a there's a very, like, John Wick thing, of like, they're, like like, it's, like, oh, shit, it's, like, the Baba Yaga, like, basically.
00:25:05
Speaker
ah you can tell, like, that the same like person that like ah wrote John Wick wrote this. Yeah.
00:25:12
Speaker
It's definitely like trying to build more of the allure. They really do a good job of that with the tattoo scene like in the tattoo parlor. But I feel like that could have been done earlier because like that's like 40 minutes into the movie.
00:25:33
Speaker
Yeah, it did it it does take it it does take a little bit to get going um to like or like really like get into yeah action and like revealing like
00:25:43
Speaker
like who Hutch actually
00:25:47
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like it's just more of the like playing the story by numbers that I feel like it it it has an 80s movie thing where honestly like if Bob Odenkirt wasn't the badass this is the thing where he encounters Like another guy that he like befriends and it becomes like a buddy cop comedy thing where it's like Bob Odenker is the everyday man and then the real like nobody is his friend, like reluctant friend, who is like, yeah, I'll help you.
00:26:27
Speaker
And then like it's dragged along in this adventure to avoid the mob and stuff. like he Like, he would show up at the tattoo parlor, but he's not. like but like again He would, like, flash the cash, but then he doesn't know what he's doing, and then the actual, like, the real guy comes in and saves him. Like, don't don't do that again. like Yeah, like, I'll help you.
00:26:45
Speaker
Why? It's like, eh, I just need a place to, like, crash for the night or whatever. And it's like, you seem like a nice guy. And then, like, that's like an 80s movie. I feel like that's where, like, this movie diverges.

Everyman Hero Trend in Action Films

00:27:00
Speaker
because, like, you could do the bus sequence, and Bob Odenker is the guy that gets off the bus, and then on the bus is the nobody who just beats everyone. You know what would be funny? is This movie actually is like a weird fight club thing where you think it's Bob Odenker doing it, but the term in actuality, it's not.
00:27:18
Speaker
Like, it's it's the guy we don't think he sees. Like, he pretends to be the badass, but then, like, there's an actual friend who's doing all the action in all this.
00:27:30
Speaker
That'd be a fun twist. It's like Dave Bautista or something. Yeah. Like, was saying, another thing I was i was writing down where there's the, like, hiding in plain sight badass yeah genre of movies, which I don't really know what the term is, but it's, like, the best I came up with hiding in plain sight, where um History of Violence, The Man from Nowhere, the Korean movie, Taken, like,
00:27:58
Speaker
they all evolve the guy who like usually has to get pulled into the action. Right. He gets like dragged back into the world. He walked away from. Yep. But before that genre, there was the, like the guy who didn't want any trouble.
00:28:15
Speaker
And then he meets a person who either helps him get out of trouble or like drags them into trouble. So, you know, now I'm thinking about it. Um,
00:28:28
Speaker
with Christopher Lloyd in this movie, it does remind me almost of the same plot as... What's that movie of Christopher Lloyd and Hulk Hogan?
00:28:40
Speaker
Oh! ah so Is it Suburban Commando? Suburban Commando. Yeah. Bob Obenker is Suburban Commando. Right? Like, if you rename this movie instead nobody and called it Suburban Commando, it still works.
00:28:55
Speaker
Mm-hmm. right? Because he's a suburban dad who takes the bus, is secretly like everything. He's a commando, right? like he yeah Yeah. Commando assassin.
00:29:06
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, that's what a commando is. It's supposed to be like a one-man army. Mm-hmm.
00:29:13
Speaker
Suburban commando. This movie should be called Suburban Commando. Or The Auditor.
00:29:21
Speaker
Yeah, that could have worked too, but I think nobody... That's too close that's too close to the account which came out like five years before this one. No. The account came out like 2018?
00:29:32
Speaker
This came out in 2021? The first account was 2016. the first account was twenty sixteen holy shit, really? Yeah. Then the new one just came out just this year. It was like almost 10 years between accountant movies.
00:29:45
Speaker
Damn, I did not know that. i felt like I thought the accountant came out in 2018 because one, I never saw the accountant in theaters. I saw it on a plane. Which is like, which not the right way to see it.
00:29:55
Speaker
no Like most movies, like any action movie, like it was heavily censored. I was like, god damn it.
00:30:07
Speaker
But, like, actually, little side tangent. if you watch more If you watch movies now on planes, like, they just give you the full movie. It's up to you to, like, not flash, like, the violent scenes or whatever to, like, your neighbor or, like, anyone behind.
00:30:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's up to you if you want to be the weirdo who's watching like some crazy R-rated movie. Well, nowadays it's not so much, especially if you go for a long continental flight. um Because I went to San Diego Comic-Con, the movie just says, we did not format this, so it's just the original, enjoy, and because nowadays they don't give you the screen, so you have to watch it on your phone.
00:30:39
Speaker
So it's up to you to like protect your phone view from your baby. But... Anyway. So... so Yeah, so the auditor works, but because I think it's Bob Odenker and it's like they really want to punch up like the playfulness. i remember the trailer of this movie did not really show you the plot. It just showed you more like action sequence and then him screaming, give him give me back the kitty bracelet.
00:31:09
Speaker
That was like the joke. And then that was like, hey, do you want to see what this movie is about? like Come see it. Yeah, the whole yeah whole thing is just like, isn't it crazy that Bob Odenkirk is like a badass action star now?
00:31:22
Speaker
Yeah, that was like the whole premise. But it kind of wears off after knowing that, and especially in the sequel, where it's like, yeah, yeah, okay, he's still a badass, but why? What's he doing? That's why in this version, in the Nobody 2, these go, oh, you've uncovered some sort of criminal underground, like you're in danger, blah, blah, blah.
00:31:40
Speaker
They give you a plot.
00:31:44
Speaker
i don't remember the plot at all in the trailer of Nobody. No, I don't think they got into like the Russian gangsters or the Opshack or anything like that. I think they showed the bus fight and just yeah just like random scenes of him just like fighting people.
00:31:58
Speaker
Also, the bus fight is like near the end of the second act. Or maybe the start of the second act. Yeah, because it's the whole opening and building up to that. True, true.
00:32:11
Speaker
But I just remember, like, it... And it's, like, this movie's, like, a tight one, like, hour, 90 minutes. Like, it's a minutes. It's, like, a 90-minute movie. So, it like, it moves fast.
00:32:24
Speaker
But speaking of the bus fight, that bus driver is super stupid. I just... I get it. like Unless that city has a mandate that's like, you must pick up any passenger that demands like um transportation.
00:32:43
Speaker
well did Well, I think... Did did they stop because of like they usually got into an act like the SUV hit them? so it was basically oh isn it No, the the car was drunk driving into a pole next to the bus.
00:32:55
Speaker
The bus wasn't stopped at a light or anything. I don't know if they stopped at a bus stop, but the bus driver had no obligation to like bring the people in the bus. Let alone, you saw like five clearly intoxicated people.
00:33:09
Speaker
And that bus driver was just like... okay, like, you're not getting paid per customer. I don't... i i i I don't think they paid it and they just, like, walked down and were like, this is our bus now.
00:33:21
Speaker
So not that's the thing. As a bus driver, you fail to get payment for, like, your bus, and then, like, you you brought this, like, lawsuit on yourself by, like, opening door. You know i mean like Like, the door wasn't open. They didn't run in.
00:33:35
Speaker
They basically were like, hey, hey, let us in. Let us in. And she's just like, it's the bus driver's code. I have to let them on.
00:33:45
Speaker
So it's like, you all witnessed a car crash and like, technically a crime because they're drunk driving. And like, I get like the people on the bus are just like, whatever, like life isn't going great. It's like 11 at night. Like we're on a bus, you know,
00:34:06
Speaker
probably weekday. It's not like a weekend thing where it's like party city. It's like, okay, hey, let's get these drunk people home. You literally were just like, well, we're in a sketchy part of town.
00:34:19
Speaker
That happened. And the bus driver's just like, okay, it'd be great for my TikToks. Like, get on the bus. World star. Yeah. Uh, and then even like a scary looking dude of the bus got off.
00:34:34
Speaker
I don't, you know what? Like I'm done. Yeah. He was like, I'm, I'm a bad-ass, but like, this is too weird. And what got? Maybe he's got kids at home too. Mm-hmm.
00:34:48
Speaker
um But I like that Bob Odenkirk was like, or like, Hutch was like, hell yeah. This is... Well, well because he... but When he went to find the the people that broke into his house, he finds that like they were doing it because they have like a sick daughter and like he can't like justifiably like kill them or like beat them so savagely because he understands why they did it but he needs some outlet for his rage because he he built this whole thing up like I'm gonna get these guys and kill them or like at least horribly beat them up and then these guys five guys threw up at the bus he's like oh yes here we go I can finally unleash the rage
00:35:31
Speaker
and he definitely does Although, you know what I like is appreciate how Hutch is not slick like John Wick. He's very sloppy. Yeah, well, I mean, he's... At least at least start with, like, the start the fight, he's very sloppy, and kind of, like, when he, like, fully clicks into, like, ah assassin mode, then he's, like, more um more, like, quick and deadly, like, with the knife and stuff.
00:35:54
Speaker
Yeah. But at the beginning of the fight, like, he's, like, maybe because he's rusty, you're, like, it's just, like, he's trying to hide how good he is, maybe, but, like, it's very sloppy to begin with, and he's, like, getting his ass kicked as much as that he's kicking their asses.
00:36:12
Speaker
Oh, also, one of the other guys besides Daniel Bernhardt is Elaine Moosey is one of the guys on the bus. For Kickboxer, For Kickboxer, yeah, the new Kickboxer movies. Which is, I think, like, by the time this came out, he already was in, like, two Kickboxer movies, so it's like, hey, you want be in this nobody? He's like, hell yeah.
00:36:29
Speaker
Yeah, they they both came out. Oh, and Jiu-Jitsu came out, too, before this. the crazy Nicolas Cage movie that he was in with, like, it was, like, him and Tony Jaa and Frank Rillo. Yeah, so he's, like, a certified, like, action star, so it's funny that he's, like, henchman guy.
00:36:49
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:36:52
Speaker
He must also, like, know, like, David Leitch or something, and, like, or, like, Derek Holstead or something, and, like, was, like, sure, I'll i'll show up. but
00:37:06
Speaker
um i don't think you mentioned...

Director Ilya Naishuller's Style and Works

00:37:09
Speaker
So, like, the director is Ilya Neishuler, who directed Hardcore Henry. okay. Did you ever see that, Chris?
00:37:18
Speaker
I have not. I've seen clips. Oh, man. ready but is it like I also feel like it's not one of those... Whatchamacallit?
00:37:30
Speaker
Like, movies that I need to, like... ah You can't just be like motion sickness beforehand. It's going to get worse. Oh, no, yeah. If you're prone motion sickness, or like yeah it's like it's it's like relentless. It's nonstop. It's from the first it's like all from first-person POV, so it's like... You can't have to be ready for it. I was in the mood prior. i always always had like and I'd be like drinking, or like, hey, I just came back from like a con or something, so I'm like tired. And was like, how about a motion sickness movie?
00:38:00
Speaker
And I'm like, oh, God. Imagine if they did a VR experience of Archie Henry. Oh, Jesus. Watch it through, like, meta.
00:38:10
Speaker
But that was that was definitely... That's what put him on the map, but then he got this one. And then yeah then he directed... ah This year, he directed Heads of State, the Idris Elba, John Cena movie. Still need to see that. I need to see that, too. I've heard it's actually pretty good.
00:38:23
Speaker
Oh. You know, I just looked up real quick while we were talking. So... Bill Odenkirk, Bob Odenkirk's brother, is a writer for Simpsons. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. yeah thats like I thought an Odenkirk did Simpsons. And I'm like, nope, Bill Odenkirk, his older brother.
00:38:39
Speaker
Or younger brother? think younger brother.
00:38:45
Speaker
You know you know what's know what makes it even more confusing? is that There's a ah Steve Odenkirk. There's Steve Odenkirk, not Odenkirk, but Odenkirk. who is also like a comedy guy. like He did like all like the like the Thumb movies.
00:38:58
Speaker
You remember those back in the Oh, yeah, yeah. He did... a kung Like Thumb Wars and yeah a Kung Pao. Yeah, he just kind of like disappeared. Imagine you put them all together in a movie. Yeah.
00:39:16
Speaker
But like yeah, it's like his that his name sounds similar, but he's not related to them at all, and then they're all in a comedy. It's it's confusing. the Odakirk clan.
00:39:31
Speaker
But yeah, the bus scene is fantastic. like that it's It's super brutal. ah he'd like and I mean, he he basically... i don't I don't know how many... It it kills a couple of them. like like so like Daniel Burghardt is like in the in the hospital.
00:39:46
Speaker
ah the main The main guy, Teddy, who we find out is the main villain's brother... ah gets, like, the, like, ah pipe, like, Hutch rips, like, a a railing off the bus, like, hits him in the throat with it, and then gives him, like, a, what is that, what is that, like, a trichotomy? Yep. But then he dies.
00:40:10
Speaker
so that that kind of like, sets Hutch in the path of Yulian, who's the main bad guy.
00:40:19
Speaker
Which, it's like, It's weird because like apparently like it's told through everyone else that Yulian was not close with his brother, or that his brother was actually like a huge asshole.
00:40:32
Speaker
it's like, eh. What's the principle the thing? Yeah, yeah. That was the principle.
00:40:40
Speaker
It's funny too, because think they they kind of make it like... see like um kind of a thing where it's like, he's similar to Hutch where he like he kind of wants to get out of like his life. ah he because he he's He's in like the Russian mafia, but he he kind of doesn't like you ask like, he wants to be more like a club owner and like a singer. like He doesn't really want to be overseeing his money and doing all this mob stuff.
00:41:05
Speaker
but But then it's like, well, they kill my brother. there's like like The money might be threatened. I gotta like actually like dode i gotta deal with this.
00:41:18
Speaker
But so it's also great, too, where, like, Hutch could not care less about... they think They think everything's happening because of, like, their money, and it's, it's like, Hutch could care less about the money. oh yeah. so But they're all like, oh, it's about... They're after the Obra Shack. We gotta, to like, protect the Obra Shack. Like, someone's coming after us because of that.
00:41:39
Speaker
Well, I like that it's, like, a paranoia. And it makes sense when they have that much money in this nightclub, or whatever, like, place they were hiding it. Yeah.
00:41:49
Speaker
also I also love the scene where Yulian's hacker like bribes the guy at the Pentagon to get Hutch's files, and then she looks at and she's like, well, I'm out of here. Bye. don't need to get paid.
00:42:01
Speaker
Which is like also like a very John Wick thing. I'm just seeing how insanely badass Hutch is, and just like, i you're on your own. Bye. I'm out of here. like This guy's going to kill all of you.

Supporting Characters and Humor

00:42:17
Speaker
And then we ah we we also get... um it's I mean, there's not there's not the same like world building as like John Wick, but we get a little bit of kind of like a similar thing where Hutchinson has to go to the barber shop and and see the barber. It's played by Colin Salmon. It used to be his handler, and then theyre like he kind of like downloads him and he's like, well, here's who you pissed off, so deal with it.
00:42:47
Speaker
It's like, you you you're messing with the Russian mafia now.
00:42:56
Speaker
Yeah, it's funny to think that, like, the mobs don't have, like, a Baba Yaga to send, so it's like, they have to deal with it themselves.
00:43:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's kind of, it's interesting, there's not really, there's not, like, a um, like, um um like ah a final, but like, Yulian, like, is kind of taking care of himself?
00:43:19
Speaker
There's not, like, there yeah there's not, like, a guy that's, like we like, send us, like, the guy from, like, the killer from Russia who's gonna, like, like, who's gonna kill Hutch because he's like, like the, uh, our main assassin guy. Guess we gotta to get the, like, this legendary assassin the company to come and try to kill him.
00:43:38
Speaker
Which, like, a lot of times when, like, like, you go through, like, the first, like, group of guys, and it's like, oh, he killed all these guys, we gotta get, like, the specialists in now. Yeah, well, they kind of hinted with, like, this black Russian guy.
00:43:53
Speaker
Yeah, Pavel, yeah. and then I thought that would be, like, a bigger thing. But I think that's the, but like, surprise, the unconventional take, is that any and kind of, like, John Wick formula up until this point, that guy would have been the, like, quiet killer, whatever, the, like, the opposing force, or i forgot the French word for it, where it's, like, the, like, the, like,
00:44:20
Speaker
opposite of the Bob Odenkirk of Hutch, where it's like, you know, he's young, this this other guy is younger, he's in the mob, and, you know, he's looking to prove himself, where Hutch is, like, older, and he's looking to get out of it, and he's he's like, hey, like, I don't want anything to do with, like, you guys, so, like, I thought that would be what would happen the first time I saw this movie, but Turns out it's not. It's like a hilarious one-off character.
00:44:52
Speaker
It's like they brought him on just to make two jokes. Well, yeah, he's he's part of the running joke, which is great, where Hutch tries to explain his backstory to people that he's, like, horrifically injured and they die before he can finish telling what happened.
00:45:07
Speaker
like he's like explaining Like, he's, like, telling them a story and he looks over and is like, oh, you're dead. Okay. Yeah, that's a rule of three, which they don't do. three which they don't you They only do it twice, so... I thought, like, maybe the villain, he'll try to do it again.
00:45:26
Speaker
And then that fails, and then he's oh shit, I got to tell my story, but, like, the villain doesn't care. And then maybe do the bulletproof glass. But... Yeah, yeah, because, like, there's no...
00:45:41
Speaker
There's no um big like bad on the Russian side. It's really just like Yuli. Yuli is handling himself. like he's he's He's like the ah bad guy from Rogue Nation.
00:45:56
Speaker
basically have no Richmond. Ghost pro but Protocol. yeah it like I do everything myself. I don't always start saying anything.
00:46:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's, ah it's, it makes sense why he was able to have the Obstruct, because, like, he was able to, like, sing he's a singer, he's a partier, he's a club owner, and he's a, like, he knows how to, like, handle himself.
00:46:25
Speaker
The only thing he didn't know was, like, that he happened to be the best guy in his whole team. You know, like, he didn't train anyone else. He doesn't have, like, a new guy to bring on. It's just, like, you have all this money. You figure to hire better security than, like, your club guys. And then, I guess the, the, um, the, I forgot what his name was.
00:46:50
Speaker
He's, like, the Black Russian. Yeah, Pavel. Pavel. I thought Pavel was his protege. He's not even broken up that Pavel's dead. No. That's why i was like, oh, he's a throwaway character.
00:47:02
Speaker
It's fun because I thought they'd explore it more, but that's the joke of it, I guess, is that like you don't get that. But you still need a big foil for Hutch, besides like countless dudes.
00:47:18
Speaker
Which I don't mind countless dudes, but I always thought like you always need like a head goon or a lieutenant character to fight. That isn't just some guy in a black hat or something.
00:47:32
Speaker
and But here's the thing. At least this movie has the stunt team show their face. In John Wick, they're all wearing like ski masks. Well, they created the high-table armor guys starting two. Three. Three. So that's how they can hide people.
00:47:50
Speaker
three three and then that's what that's why how they can like hide people But they don't do that here. I think almost everyone, you see all their faces. Yeah, everyone's just in, like, suits.
00:48:01
Speaker
yeah know Like, Russian suits.
00:48:07
Speaker
But there's, um... I did find it funny, like, there is... It kind of is almost like the same, like, whole invasion scene. um or The second home invasion, but so it's almost like the same scene from John Wick. like The first like the first like big scene from like actually from John Wick when they break into his house.
00:48:23
Speaker
like it's It's almost like the same thing in this movie where they break into Hutchins' house and he kills them all with like his like you know household things or fights them in his house.
00:48:32
Speaker
But the big thing is that they actually succeed. Yeah, it is that that's the kind of twist. like They actually manage to tase him and like capture him for like a little bit.

Comparisons with 'The Equalizer' and Final Scenes

00:48:45
Speaker
But then, unlucky for them, he like wakes up in the trunk and manages to get of the trunk and so pulls this whole MacGyver thing of, I'm gonna dig into like the side, pull a fire extinguisher out, and like spray you guys, and like flip the car.
00:48:59
Speaker
And walk away. Yeah, and they take him back to like the shady side of the city that like everything happens in.
00:49:10
Speaker
it's like I think it's also the same area they had that bus accident.
00:49:15
Speaker
It'd be funny if they go back... Pretty close, yeah, probably. It'd be funny if, like, where they crash next to the car that crashed, like, the next to the bus. Yeah. just Pile of vehicles up next to it.
00:49:29
Speaker
like There's, like, a pile of vehicles in that street. Yeah, it's just, like, where car accidents happen
00:49:38
Speaker
all the time. I do also like Hotchkos full Joker and, like, burns the Elber Shack... I mean, no, he he did that to his own home, so he's definitely going to burn the Overshampton's, like, cash just to prove. And also, there's, like, rules of engagement that I guess, like, even the Auditor in the Underworld should respect, but the Russian mob was just like... or like, at least Yulian was just, like, breaking that code of conduct, I guess.
00:50:07
Speaker
Which, yeah I mean, if he... Okay, so... There should have been a scene where he sends the squad to kill the father. And that's where the other Russian mobster should have been like, we have no part in this.
00:50:20
Speaker
You watch our money, but like you are on your own. So that explains why he has no support from everyone else. So if he has to get help, it has to be from outside consultants or he has to in-house it.
00:50:33
Speaker
least give me that. Don't, don't, this movie doesn't do that just because it's like, it's, I think this movie takes place over like three nights, maybe two nights. It's pretty, yeah, it's pretty short time for it. Once, when Hutch goes to like find the people that work in his house and then, yeah, it's like, from that to like the end is probably like, yeah, like a couple, like a day or two.
00:51:00
Speaker
Because I think because i think like the like the Russians attack his house like the next night after the the bus attack, and then then it's taste like the rest of that night like he goes out and like ah burns the Obershack, kills all but because all the guys, brings up like his... Then I think the next day he brings out his like John Wick cache of gold that he yeah just had and buys the factory from Michael Ironside.
00:51:23
Speaker
yeah yeah. So but that was cool, but I feel like... Did we see the scene where... um like He drags it across town. He just ends up in the office and just dumps it.
00:51:34
Speaker
just ah but Yeah, but this giant bag full of gold.
00:51:39
Speaker
Which, I guess he took the bus? Oh no, he took the neighbor's car. He stole the guy's car and then... yeah then
00:51:48
Speaker
i don't i was that Was that after or the big like car chase or before the... The car chase is after because yeah like... cause that Then he's like, alright, because he knows that basically his plan only works if he can bait the Russians into the... Into like his kill box.
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah, which, that reminded me a lot of the end of the first Equalizer movie with Denzel, where he was, like, the Home Depot. taking you like an pickle box Speaking of a movie, again, about a badass hiding in plain sight, yeah it's a it rips off the Equalizer's final fight, but only in, like, setting.
00:52:23
Speaker
The rest of it, it's just like... Actually, no, same thing. Equalizer had also, like, a Russian mob that he pissed off by killing, like, a brother. Yep, mm-hmm.
00:52:37
Speaker
and So if we we ever do like a movie marathon of like movies where like the Russian mob is like trying to seek revenge, it should be like John Wick, Equalizer, Nobody.
00:52:52
Speaker
feel like there's two more.
00:52:55
Speaker
I don't know. trying to remember if in Equalizer, if they also thought that it was all is like more something was else was going on besides just a random guy killed a random guy. They did. They thought it was a mob war.
00:53:06
Speaker
And that's they go after the Irish mob. Yep. So very similar.
00:53:15
Speaker
And I think the Equalizer series is like two in before nobody came out.
00:53:23
Speaker
Yeah, there were there were two there were two in to the series. Supervisor 2 was 20... Also came out in 2018. Oh. oh
00:53:32
Speaker
And then 3 was ah two years ago.
00:53:39
Speaker
But yeah, it is it is yeah it funny how like it's almost the exact same. like like the main The main hero rigs up a industrial kind of tool-based area and like with all these like he' like traps, Home Alone style.
00:54:00
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely is like a fun surprise ah of like, oh, he was able to jerry-rig a whole Rambo Home Alone attack box that basically um i guess he always been planning just in case there was an incident like this because it's a very like thought out plan it wasn't like rush it just run in and make it like he goes all right i have to get the factory this is the perfect place so i know where everything is to make like all these traps i got yeah i got stock and i have like grenades and claymores which i think like he just had in his home right like he didn't
00:54:43
Speaker
Yeah, i think i think it's someplace yeah think I think he had like the arsenal stashed his house and then he took that to the factory and then rigged everything up.
00:54:53
Speaker
And then then he goes and burns the over shack and ah kills everybody and then but there's a great scene where goes to the club and he's sitting right in front of the stage where he's singing and they have their big like heat kind of face-off.
00:55:10
Speaker
And Hutch is like one chance to like, like it's like, we can both rebuild. Like, we'll just end here.
00:55:20
Speaker
And then obviously Yulian's like, nah, we're not we're gonna do that. And then the car chase is great. I love like the car chase. I love Hutch is laying down, shooting, driving in like the muscle So it shows off. He also has like awesome driving skills.
00:55:38
Speaker
Along with like all his other skills.
00:55:45
Speaker
and then we And then we get the the big ah kind of like ah reveal that Christopher Lloyd and RZA are there to help him. who Up to this point, we've only heard like the RZA on the radio. He hasn't shown up in like person.
00:56:05
Speaker
But he's got his like big sniper rifle like shooting people, and then Christopher Lloyd's got like like five shotguns. Which, okay. The...
00:56:14
Speaker
the The point where Christopher Lloyd shows up was another surprise. Like, I don't remember him in the trailer either. So when he was there, i'm like, oh, shit, it's Christopher Lloyd.
00:56:26
Speaker
And then you find out, like, hintingly through the dialogue and then from the sequence that, like, he's also a badass. Yeah, he used to be an FBI agent.
00:56:39
Speaker
but doesn't make him like a walking arsenal. Like it doesn't make sense to be like a paranoid weapon, like expert because like, he had to have those shotguns like in his house or something. it is Retirement home. Yep.
00:56:56
Speaker
And then, um, I kind of want like a prequel movie where it's like, it's called somebody. Yeah. And it's a like digital DH Christopher Lloyd. i mean, you he probably can't do that because he's pushing 90, but he's got a buckle-like.
00:57:14
Speaker
It'd be like the Irishman, where they DH De Niro, but you can still tell it's old man De Niro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of want like a version where like they just find like a younger, kind of someone with the same kind of nose, at least, and then just do the nobody.
00:57:29
Speaker
Like the somebody's. like hit like hit Like him is still as an FBI agent, but like him training his sons to be like assassins.
00:57:41
Speaker
settle and don't think we find out, like, I don't know if if we like, because I don't think he trained, like, I don't know if he trained them or like, there's not, there's not like, we don't really know like how Hutch got into like,
00:57:53
Speaker
to be an auditor and then we also like don't know was RZA also an auditor or he was just was like an assassin like an assassin or like something like we really you didn't know what RZA was doing
00:58:06
Speaker
he just is

Character Insights: RZA and Hutch's Family

00:58:07
Speaker
he's just like we just know he like faked his own death and like he also has like he's he basically has the same skills that Hutch has but I don't know if he was like also you know in the nobody program whatever that was I mean he well you know he knows Colin Samuels I guess maybe he was also an auditor Yeah, so I imagine like they they both were in the same field, because there's no way that when a dad like Christopher Lloyd, who's like a badass, that's just like, one guy's only like the auditor, and the other one is like like a mobster or something, you know? like It doesn't make sense.
00:58:43
Speaker
A contract killer, like, yeah for money. Yeah, yeah.
00:58:52
Speaker
But lots of fun, crazy kills and action in the fun and the finale. like People are getting impaled rebar and grenades are going off industrial presses and mines are going off and
00:59:09
Speaker
I like, there's like the awesome part where the RZA is like fighting you guys with his sniper rifle and they pull off the suppressor and he's like, you think his sniper rifle is like a melee weapon? It's like a bo staff, basically.
00:59:20
Speaker
So that that's like a another thing is that it's like the only time we see the RZA do like, gunkata. Like a sniper rifle gunkata. Ever since I've seen him in the Man Iron Fist, don't you wish that he could do something with like, his fists in this? Like he...
00:59:37
Speaker
He kind of, like, does a throwback thing where... some, like, martial arts? Yeah, some sort of punching or, or like... you're you're You're in a factory, like, bend the rebar into, like, a brass knuckle.
00:59:51
Speaker
And then just start punching them. know, like, oh, man. Do a nod of that. I haven't seen John Wick do that. Let alone John Wick hasn't fought in a factory yet. So, that would have been cool if...
01:00:03
Speaker
If he just like pulled off one of those, like he also is kind of quick on his feet to make weapons. But I don't mind though. The Rizzo was like a nice little, Hey, third act. He finally appears instead of his radio chats.
01:00:17
Speaker
And then I'm sure, I'm sure he'll probably maybe have more to do in the second one. Cause he's, but cause he's back. Everyone's back to the second one. Yeah. so Maybe, maybe not like everyone everyone's established. They'll like, they'll like everyone will have more to do in the second one.
01:00:29
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:33
Speaker
It's also, like, how did they know, how did Christopher Lloyd and Rizzo like, they just know Hutch so well they knew what traps he was going set? Because, like, there's, like, tripwires, there's all kinds, like, but like how did they navigate the factory without, like, killing themselves?
01:00:49
Speaker
Yeah, they could have accidentally, like, fallen and the claymore could have went off their face. Yeah, or step on, like, think, I think there's, like, ah like, an office pen is, like, a detonating switch for one of things. like It's, like, on the stairs. It's, like, you need to kind of know where that is.
01:01:05
Speaker
yeah they just they just know him so well they knew like what he's gonna do it's like well if we ah if we were in the factory this is what we would have so we know what he did
01:01:20
Speaker
and yeah so they they they managed to they kill everyone except for yulian and put them around the ammo, and then, like you like like, we've been talking about, like, Hodge finds the bulletproof shield wherever that wherever whoever made that, or what wherever why that was there, and then he puts a claymore on the front of it, and then runs it, Yolian, like, blows it up, and then he flies back, and then, because it's a claymore, like, all the most of the impact goes out on the front of it, so Yolian gets, like, horribly killed, then Hodge is fine.
01:01:52
Speaker
So, I think, like, I don't know if Bob Odenkirr was holding that by the sides or there was a handle because... There was like two handles. It actually had like two handles. So it was like a it was like a full like riot shield that had handles you could hold to like hold on to it.
01:02:08
Speaker
See, that makes it more confusing of why that was there. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:18
Speaker
I mean, i'm sure I'm sure maybe someone would be like, oh yeah, that's like what you use this for. And like when you're manufacturing steel, like you have to like you use it for this. Like you press it against this oven or something or this like barrel. like
01:02:33
Speaker
But it is it is so like so like a riot shield that like military would use, kind of.
01:02:43
Speaker
But it it is is a cool it is a cool like ah you know final kill. and it it horrifically kills julian like he's just like uh like ah looks like a two-face like his whole like body's burnt or crisp but if he's not like fully dead there's still a chance i mean in this fantasy world because then science brings him back in the third movie yeah
01:03:12
Speaker
I mean, if there's a Darkman, if they can bring back what's-his-face in the third Darkman movie, they could bring him back.
01:03:21
Speaker
I think he was most recently... Like, Alexei Serebakov, who plays at Julian, I think he was most recently in Onora. He was like Onora's father-in-law.
01:03:36
Speaker
That was that drama that came out, right? Yeah. but Best Picture winner her last year. Did not see it. Only because the movie didn't appeal to me.
01:03:47
Speaker
But yeah, once you it's funny that that was the villain from... Nobody. Now he's in his Oscar-nominated Oscar-winning movie.
01:04:01
Speaker
He's not in it a lot, but he only shows like at the like the end when like it's like the parents show up are like, what is going on here? ah you saw Nora? I saw Nora, yeah.
01:04:13
Speaker
and funny if it's like that he plays russian in that movie too yeah because it's like like the the norah marries like the the russian guy the rich russian guy but then it's like oh all his money is with his parents and his parents show up and they're like what what the hell's happening here like why do you why'd you marry the stripper gotcha gotcha and then maybe it leads into the events of nobody maybe He's like, listen, I need this money to protect my son. it's funny This money is from the Obershack.
01:04:42
Speaker
You see all the Obershack money.
01:04:47
Speaker
yeah other mobsters here come and ask where the money is.
01:04:58
Speaker
But, uh, yeah, so they killed yeah kill the Russians, and then Christopher Lloyd, the Rizzo, like, like kind of sneak off because they can't be seen, I guess, at the scene of this, like, crazy massacre.
01:05:12
Speaker
Hutch takes all the, all the, like, blowback from it, but then I'm assuming Colin Sandman calls the cops and is like, hey, let him go. Like, he's, like, way way beyond your pay grade.
01:05:25
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, because it's it's the show that basically like the government wants him out of this. And honestly, they should have been like on this... They dropped the ball, like keeping an eye on what's going on in this like city.
01:05:39
Speaker
Yeah, there's there's very little cop ah activity. like michel but show They respond to the house invasion at the beginning, but it's only patrolmen. And then detectives don't show up to the end what the after they you respond to this like giant crazy massacre.
01:05:57
Speaker
But like no one no one shows up for like the set like the house exploding. We don't see him show up for a house exploding. but like Hutch blows up his house or um anything related to the bus or the car the car flipping over. think it might be and i think there's a news report about the car where like three mysterious bodies were found. or like we don't know who but like few people were killed. We don't know who they are this car accident.
01:06:28
Speaker
But yeah, like the the bus thing, you'd think there'd be some sort of a follow-up for the cops, like, oh, this crazy fight that happened on this bus, who was involved? We gotta find this guy that followed these guys.
01:06:41
Speaker
And there's nothing.
01:06:44
Speaker
Yeah. that't like even like Isn't like that government agent guy? um The barber? The barber, like, he should be, like, aware.
01:06:56
Speaker
And he's like, hey, like I should probably send help or, like, get you out of the city.
01:07:05
Speaker
i well i feel I feel like he was just kind of like, well, if you're gonna if you're involved now, you'll get rid of some Russian mobsters for us, so have at it. she goes Yeah, maybe we should arm you, or, like, give you more intelligence of what's going on. Because he's like, oh, Yuli, alright.
01:07:21
Speaker
Like, I think he just gives them like the bare minimum that like, yeah, he gives like a dossier. Like, here's, here's who pissed off, but he doesn't tell them like, stop or ah like, where we're going to stop you. Or like, like, it's just like, here, here, here's, here's information.
01:07:40
Speaker
Do what you will. Yeah. yeah
01:07:48
Speaker
It's very, it's very, uh, whatever government, whatever agency Hutch worked for is very like, uh, laissez-faire. Like there's like, you want to retire? Fine. Yeah. You want to go, want to kill these Russian guys? Fine. we don't care. Cause normally like if, if an asset went rogue, they'd be like, well, we gotta, we gotta kill him now.
01:08:10
Speaker
got to send our, our cleaners to go kill him. Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:15
Speaker
The entire premise the movie would be like... But, like, there's a lot of loose ends. Like, not only did you get, like, Hutch involved, you got, like, his rogue brother and then his father.
01:08:28
Speaker
Like, I'm pretty sure he left those dead bodies, like, at the retirement home. Mm-hmm.

Unresolved Elements and Sequel Potential

01:08:35
Speaker
And also his entire family, like, his like if whatever Connie Nielsen knew, like, she knows even more now, and then also his kids know everything now.
01:08:42
Speaker
They know their father's, like, a crazy assassin. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's a lot of loose ends he just opened up. And if you're a government agency, you'd just be like...
01:08:55
Speaker
But then the end the the ending kind of seems like either Hutch is like active again, like he's taking jobs again, or he gets like a courtesy call of like, hey, something else is coming for you.
01:09:07
Speaker
cause he gets They're looking at that new house, and then he gets a call, he's just like, yep, alright, okay. mean, it makes sense that like... You're probably on some Russian, like, most, like, want it list.
01:09:23
Speaker
But isn't everyone who, like, knew he was involved dead?
01:09:28
Speaker
Except for, like, we never really see, like, what i happened to Daniel Bernhardt. Like, he was just in the hospital. So I guess he recovered and maybe he could, like, go back to, like, the bus and like, it was this guy. i mean, granted, like, everyone on that bus, it's, like, four of those guys.
01:09:41
Speaker
The brother's dead, but, like, everyone else is, like, around. couple yeah A couple of them made it out.
01:09:48
Speaker
think all of them did, because they only got like injured. and then Only that guy... like Which is crazy, because Hutch is really... like Once he like really like locks in for like the last stage of that fight, like he's like stabbing them like horrifically and like bashing them with metal pipes. and It seems like he's switched to kill mode.
01:10:08
Speaker
Yeah. yeah But like I guess there aren't life-threatening injuries. They hurt. Yeah.
01:10:20
Speaker
And then I guess ah Christopher Lloyd and Arisa are like off to do, they're doing their own missions or like they're doing something because drive a camper full of guns across the border.
01:10:32
Speaker
I wonder where they're going over because they don't, I mean, now we kind of know in the follow-up, but.
01:10:41
Speaker
It's going to weird if they just don't do anything with that yet. The next movie, they're just like, whatever. Yeah, hopefully yeah hopefully hopeful they show up with like the camera full of guns as a connection in the second one.
01:10:55
Speaker
Which, yeah, we recorded, we haven't seen the second one yet, but I'm definitely going to try to see it this weekend or next early next week sometime.
01:11:06
Speaker
And... um also I'm also super excited because the second one is directed by Timo Tijanto, who did The Night Comes for Us and The Shadow Strays and like some of the best sequences from VHS.
01:11:26
Speaker
So, I mean, yeah, he has not had a a bad action movie yet. and That's why i'd like Nobody 2 is doing so well.
01:11:35
Speaker
Well, I don't think we don't really know about the box office, but reviews-wise, critics-wise, it's super fun, crazy.
01:11:47
Speaker
like i read It's like both the humor and the action are both ramped up from the first one. So if you like if you like those elements of the first one, that they're like ramped up even more for the second one.
01:12:07
Speaker
But ah yeah, anything else about Nobody, Chris? ah You wonder later on, this would be a Legacy sequel, and then The Sun would be like a Nobody, like an Auditor.
01:12:17
Speaker
Yeah.
01:12:21
Speaker
I guess we'll have to see how the second one does, and then see if they're going to keep going. Yeah.

Unique Position of 'Nobody' in Action Genre

01:12:31
Speaker
But yeah, obviously... ah yeah ah you know of Of all these like kind of like Taken or you know John Wick, kind of like everything that came after those two, this is definitely a like towards toward the upper tier of those kind of ah either one of those genres of movies.
01:12:49
Speaker
And it's it's it's just awesome how well like Bob O'Kirk works as like ah an action hero, like badass. Yeah. Because it's so it's like so unexpected like based on what he did before. And it's like, oh, he can actually do yeah he yeah he's actually like believable like as this guy who could like kill a bunch all these guys.
01:13:09
Speaker
Yeah, because he knows how to play the common guy who's just like, hey guys, like you wanted this? I'll give it to you You're not going to like it and then it's It's definitely like a convincing like everyday man.
01:13:24
Speaker
And he still he still has a lot of like the like Saul-isms or like the better calls like or like Bob O'Kirk kind of like ah he's like like he like humorous kind of like comments or like when he's talking to people like kind of there's like a little bit like the Saul elements to it still.
01:13:42
Speaker
um So yeah, just nobody great movie. Hopefully, hopefully nobody too is is is ah also great. um that'll do it for this week. Come back next week, we're going defending Earthrealm and talking about Mortal Kombat because celebrating its... I think it's the 30th anniversary. Yeah, 30th anniversary. About 1995 next week.
01:14:06
Speaker
I saw that in theaters. Yeah. what of One of our favorites, we're going to be diving into... I think i think we did a commentary on that movie, but that was like years ago. So ah we'll do a fresh ah fresh take on Mortal Kombat.
01:14:20
Speaker
Probably the same jokes we made. Probably. Probably. from like 10 years ago. And also, and also kind of I mean, it's it's still a couple months away, but like, you know, obviously Mortal Kombat 2 for the new reboot series is coming out later this year. So it's still, it's still, you know, it's it's Mortal Kombat on everyone's mind again.
01:14:39
Speaker
So we'll date we'll dig dig into all that of one of the best video game movies next week. And head over to all of our usual stuff. We got news, reviews, trailers.
01:14:49
Speaker
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Speaker
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