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Jurassic Park III (2001)
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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris head to Isla Sorna and discuss the 2001 film Jurassic Park III. The first movie in the series not to be based on a Michael Crichton novel and not directed by Steven Spielberg, with Joe Johnston stepping behind the camera and bringing back Sam Neill's Alan Grant. Needing cash to keep his fossil dig going, Grant reluctantly agrees to accompany Paul Kirby (William H. Macy) and his wife, Amanda (Téa Leoni), to be their guide on a flight over Isla Sorna. Grant's research assistant Billy Brennan (Alessandro Nivola) comes along as well but Grant is horrified when the plane lands on the island. Quickly attacked by a Spinosaurus, the aircraft is destroyed, and the group is stranded. The Kirbys reveal the real reason they are there is to find their son Eric (Trevor Morgan), who has been missing for eight weeks on the island. Zach and Chris discuss Chekhov's raptor larynx, how different the island looks compared to The Lost World, the utterly useless trio of mercenaries, Téa Leoni's similarities to Willie Scott, the insane tie-in books, and more.
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Podcast Introduction
00:00:03
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Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of EverythingAction.com.
00:00:18
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the podcast week of June 30th,
Host Introductions
00:00:22
Speaker
2025. I'm your host, Zach. I'm your co-host, Chris.
Jurassic Park 3 Discussion Overview
00:00:26
Speaker
And this week we're heading back to Site B and talking about Jurassic Park 3.
00:00:30
Speaker
um Because if you're hearing this Jurassic World of Rebirth is out in theaters. And ah it kind of surprisingly has a lot of similarities to Jurassic Park 3. I think the Spinosauruses are back. um the We got some Pteranodons, although I think they're Quetzalcoatlus.
00:00:46
Speaker
They're not pterodactyls, but they're like another flying dinosaur, which is have heavily featured in Jurassic Park 3. Um, there's, like, little, there's, like, kids in peril on the island that gets, like, they get, like, shipwrecked or something.
Guns and Dinosaurs
00:01:01
Speaker
Isn't there, like, also, like, way more guns involved in this one? Like, I feel like every Jurassic Park movie, every other one where it's, like, one gun, all the guns, like, know what mean? Like, they use it more, even though look no dinosaur ever gets killed by guns.
00:01:22
Speaker
That is weird. yeah i don't think yeah ugly No one is able to successfully kill a dinosaur. That's one of the details I've noticed. That's why in 3 I hoped they were going to actually shoot someone. but and don't know. Maybe this is like the next Jurassic Park movie. We have Scarlett Johansson actually like fires... I don't know. It's to be something passive.
00:01:43
Speaker
She's going to throw a canister of like oil and then shoot the container and then explode the dinosaur or Definitely
Books vs. Movies
00:01:52
Speaker
not true in the books, though. The books are, like, if especially like the first Jurassic Park ah sort Michael Cray novel.
00:01:58
Speaker
like I think it's like, um like ah what's what's his name? ah The lawyer. um like He gets like a rocket launcher and like blows up a rapture.
00:02:09
Speaker
think he Does he make it out of the book? Yeah. Oh, he's like, for some reason, like he is like the biggest like action hero in the book. like He is rescuing everybody. like He's running with a bazooka.
00:02:20
Speaker
like It's crazy. It's a totally different tone when the lawyer is like the good guy.
00:02:30
Speaker
But yeah, there's there's there's a lot of promise of ah you know like maybe there's a 50k sniper rifle that might get come into play Dress Mark 3 that does not come into play at all.
00:02:44
Speaker
But ah yeah, 2001. So was it's ah four years after Lost World.
Origins of Jurassic Park 3
00:02:51
Speaker
And it's this is the first one that was not based on Michael Crane novel. It's an an original idea. Although i think Michael Crane came in for a little bit.
00:02:59
Speaker
For like a week. And he's just like, well, we can't think of anything. Bye. It's like, you guys film too much. We can't really modify it. It's like, I think this is the only one where...
00:03:12
Speaker
There's no science explaining about things. It's just sort of like, oh, this was site... We're back like we're back to site Yep.
Site B Exploration
00:03:21
Speaker
And it looks completely different. like if you If somehow you understood the terrain of site B from Lost World, this looks like a completely different island.
00:03:30
Speaker
They're on like the other side of the island or something. But there's so much more shit that goes on in this island now. that There's a yeah' a giant canyon. There's a river. There's the birdcage. Aviation cage. yeah ah like A lab with like raptor test experiments, I guess. like Just hanging out.
00:03:51
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:03:54
Speaker
And I don't think this is a... I think they might have explained it in Lost World, but the storm was there. But this island was abandoned with everyone.
00:04:07
Speaker
So it's it's not like in that same movie of the Jurassic Park movie, there was like a whole, like okay, we need evacuate. Oh no, rappers escape. All that. It seems like from the second into the third movie, they've just been slowly taking staff off that island. and Or like from the second movie, at least. They're just like, yeah, we just totally like left everything. well We left the power on.
00:04:29
Speaker
We left equipment behind. We did everything. We didn't care. like They basically were just going pollute this island. And it's like, you never know when it comes in handy. Yeah, they had InGen abandoned everything in the on Site B and just let let the dinosaurs, you know, they thought they to die off, but then they survived, which is the whole point of like Lost World. It's like, now it's a Lost World dinosaur. you have to go We need to go document it.
00:04:50
Speaker
and then they're gonna But then the you know evil InGen was going to go and kidnap all dinosaurs and bring them to San Diego. But, like, see, in the second movie they did that was publicly, like, ousted for it.
InGen's Conspiracies
00:05:04
Speaker
uh hammond is like oh we should really just let this be a preserve but then they do such a shitty job of preventing people from just wandering too close to the island well that's that's thing like yes like dress park 3 kicks off with you get the the classic i think they always like say like you know isla sorna like 207 miles from cost like they tell you how about far it is for costa rica but then it says restricted But there's there's to be any sort of like you think there'd be like like military patrols or plane. I think think they wait for one plane to fly overhead.
00:05:37
Speaker
That's it. And then like, well, we're good. We can go parasailing now.
00:05:44
Speaker
But I mean, they they had ah they had a full like military convoy bring the T-Rex back to the East of Somerville at the end of Lost World. So like, yeah, the entire world is like well aware of what's going on this island.
00:05:58
Speaker
But ah apparently these guys as have like a very well organized... They've branded their entire parasailing company, Dinosaur. they're like a... Which is not very subtle for this illegal parasailing. to call yourself Dinosaur.
00:06:17
Speaker
It's like there should be ah another lawyer on the Indian retainer list. Or even any kind of... like group that's like, are you parents you dinosaur parasailing? Like, it's in your title.
00:06:32
Speaker
And it's like, it's not like that was their first parasailing experience, right? In the beginning act of this family. It seems like those the guys on the boat have done this like ah million times before.
00:06:45
Speaker
They're very confident for like, what's happening. So... my My concern is that, like, did InGen hope that this would happen? Like, in some secret conspiracy, it's like, we'll just keep letting this, like, go, so it gives us a reason to, like, go back to the island.
00:07:00
Speaker
And then, like, you know, like, I feel like there's a smarter movie where you find out this was all, like, kind of just InGen's plan of waiting to get, like, families stuck on that island, so it gives them an excuse to, like, return. Yeah.
00:07:14
Speaker
Yeah, like, now but can now we can, like, call the, like, and unlike the end of this movie spoilers, but, like, just call in, like, the the military and, like, invade the island and, like, claim it.
00:07:25
Speaker
Yep. Wouldn't that make more sense? It's like, there's there's American citizens in
Failures of Jurassic Park
00:07:29
Speaker
danger on this island. We have to go we have to go in. and also, let's ah take a bunch of ah stuff while we're there and some ah some secrets.
00:07:38
Speaker
Let's build a new park.
00:07:41
Speaker
And it's a little... It's a weird thing where, like, they want to get the dinosaurs, and they always want to, like, import people to, like ah like, from the dinosaurs to the next place. But the only problem about the first park and its location wasn't the weather, and it wasn't, like, the securities failed.
00:08:04
Speaker
It was just Nedry turning off the internet, ah like, the generators were like, that 10-minute mark, right? Yeah, he turned off all the power to all the fences. And then also, like, disabled the door locks. Right, right. He, like, hacked it.
00:08:19
Speaker
So, otherwise, it was a secure park. It was totally, like, functional. Everything was working. Just do that again. Like, just maybe... Which they did. I mean, however many years... Till Jurassic World.
00:08:33
Speaker
it was... Was it... ah Was it real-time? Was it, like... ah twenty years like 20 years after the first one? or Yeah, but like when that happened, it was like a functional like park. It was like open for at least a few years.
00:08:50
Speaker
And we don't see that. like ah the one is The one biggest gripe, which I know makes terrible um like entertainment, but I just want to see i want to like see what the park is without faults.
00:09:03
Speaker
like Every movie we always enter, something's wrong with the park. Yeah.
00:09:09
Speaker
And I know, I know, not interesting if it's... If it's like that.
00:09:18
Speaker
yeah I mean, you can't... The first however many minutes of Jurassic World you get to see that before the Octopus Rex breaks out. Which, that that was their own fault, too, for but trying to make, like, a, you know, a genetic monster.
Mysterious Boat Incident
00:09:34
Speaker
Um... My biggest question for REST RART 3, though, is what killed those guys in the boat in the beginning of this movie? Like, is that something that in the other movies are explained? That they modified, like, a fog monster or something? just The fog is toxic.
00:09:55
Speaker
But, I mean, there's blood, there's scratch marks. like Some sort of dinosaur killed them. But what, like, you would think that Eric and, uh, Ben Hildebrand would like see a dinosaur that like there even even because they got in the fog and they see like the boats like attacked feel like the dinosaur would still be in the area like somewhere like hunting them and and and like the pterodactyls aren't out of the cage yet so it's not them but even then they're like Ninja Turtle pterodactyls if they were able to do all that that was crazy because like they like
00:10:34
Speaker
not only killed the people, like, dragged them off the boat, like, like, yeah bought you know, they're not mauled bodies. They were just completely gone. They're gone, and then, yeah, there's a little bit blood and, like, the canopies ripped.
00:10:48
Speaker
That's always been, like, the most, like, the thing bugged me about this movie, just, like, what the hell happened
Critique of Jurassic Park 3's Opening
00:10:52
Speaker
there? Like, what dinosaur attack, because they're making it seem like a dinosaur attacked them, but it doesn't make, it none none of them make any sense.
00:11:02
Speaker
Agreed. It's confusing. It definitely like takes you out, and it's the first like thing you see.
00:11:10
Speaker
It's definitely... ah The original trilogy is definitely the weakest opening. now yeah i was the first one you had the awesome like raptor kate like ah pen while doing overseeing the raptor pen thing, and the shooter, and then like the last world had the copy attack on the little girl.
00:11:28
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard to like go down from that.
00:11:37
Speaker
but ah after yeah But after that opening, we we get The Return of Alan Grant for the the first time. Obviously, he came back with Dominion, which is... Post-Dominion, Dress Park 3 is ah very good movie. It definitely... Like I said, like i so i I saw this in theaters. I do too, yeah.
00:11:58
Speaker
I thought I was like, oh, it's going to be so good. Maybe maybe they'll find like one of their Jeeps. Maybe they'll... ah the site b is also like a tourist trap thing you know it's like uh maybe they'll they'll have like a nod to the lost world thing maybe you you they go back to where that gymnast girl kicked that raptor and that spike finally i like the other like there's like a rat a raptor skeleton with like a pole stuck in it you know what i mean i was like oh that'd be cool yeah they don't go anywhere near like the whatever that like the command center or whatever that was
00:12:34
Speaker
umm also thinking, since it's N-Gen again from the second movie, they also abandoned a whole bunch of their equipment, but they didn't. They cleaned up this time.
00:12:43
Speaker
Well, I think Eric later says, like, oh, they they left a bunch of stuff behind. That's how he's able to survive. is like He just scavenged N-Gen equipment.
New Dinosaurs Introduced
00:12:51
Speaker
I guess that does make sense, but like for how much noise they did on The Lost World, and they were there for, like, what, two nights?
00:13:01
Speaker
Two, three nights?
00:13:04
Speaker
ah the like Like, Malcolm and the whole like crew? yeah yeah. And then, like, a whole other group? It was, yeah, it was couple days, probably. ah All the new monsters that just show up, like, aren't there?
00:13:19
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah, they never, like, Malcolm and his team never ran to, like, a Spinosaurus. Yeah. I mean, was the Spinosaurus just like... But that's the thing. So, like, you see a T-Rex, and then the Spinosaurus shows up, and it's, like, introducing the Spinosaurus that, like, I think is a real dinosaur. it is, yeah.
00:13:38
Speaker
It's, like, totally, like, a hundred-year difference of when this was, so a T-Rex would never meet one. Mm-hmm. I do like that maybe the T-Rex that gets killed in this is the same T-Rex that, like, they sent back.
00:13:52
Speaker
That's what I was wondering. Is that, like, the is ah is that like the like the bull T-Rex that they spent all that money bringing back and they just, like, murdered?
00:14:02
Speaker
All that effort, all that, like, we should take care. Or maybe that's the baby that, like, grew up. Oh, maybe. You think it's been isn' been that long that, like, the baby T-Rex grew up? mean...
00:14:13
Speaker
we don't know how long it takes for them to gestate into, like, a full adult. So, for all I know, that T-Rex that gets killed is just, like, a teen. Yeah, it's ah it's not really clear how long it's been since The Lost World.
00:14:25
Speaker
I mean, i feel like enough so it's enough to, like, establish that, like, Grant and Ellie have gone separate ways. Mm-hmm. and that Grant is now still trying to prove done like traditional dinosaur study still is valuable, that you shouldn't believe the genetically modified dinosaurs.
00:14:46
Speaker
and like they're Yeah, they're not true dinosaurs. They're monsters. Yeah, and it's funny, because like in my head, I definitely was like, no, no, those are exactly what dinosaurs should look like. This movie told me so. And you realize, like even in Wong says it, in the...
00:15:00
Speaker
Jurassic World. He's like, yeah, no, this is not how like they look like. We made monsters. like we This is like totally like we mess with science.
00:15:11
Speaker
Yeah, the velociraptors, real velociraptors from prehistoric times were tiny. and And then the ones in Jurassic Park are more like Utah raptors. They like like they actually found like a bigger species of raptors after Jurassic Park came out it's like,
00:15:26
Speaker
oh these are like, like i guess there were bigger raptors, but they're not velociraptors, they're Utahraptors. And he also had feathers.
00:15:36
Speaker
Which, they kind of... they This is, like the like, the first nod to, like, scientific, um you know, and like, accuracy a little bit in this one, because they start giving, like, the raptors, like, they have, like, little, like, um head feathers, like, head things on... Like, the males raptors in this movie have, like, little, like, little bit of, like, extra feathers kind going on.
00:15:57
Speaker
They have, like, little, bohawks.
00:16:00
Speaker
Yeah, and... like I remember looking at that and thinking, like it's closer to what some books
00:16:10
Speaker
like depicted the dinosaurs, where it's like they're more prehistoric chickens in that family. Yeah. But the thing is, um they just don't look cool.
00:16:21
Speaker
like I remember how at this point, like they stopped promoting the toys. Like, even leading up to Lost World, there was an aggressive campaign for toys. Oh my god, yeah, Lost World was everywhere. Right, and then when they're like, Jurassic Park 3, and you're like, you notice, like, I mean, at this point, I'm aging out of toys. It's like, already, like, I've stopped buying toys like, I think, two or three years ago from that point.
00:16:46
Speaker
And then, it's like, even if you had an interest about like, oh, maybe I'll add something to collection, anything cool, it's like, I don't remember any toy from this era. Yeah, I don't really remember, yeah, I'm sure that I'm sure they probably made, like, you know, a Spinosaurus and, like, a T-Rex and stuff like that, but...
00:17:04
Speaker
can't remember some of the gate, like, some of the, like, like, uh, like, PC games or, like, um, there's a lot of, like, Game Boy Advance games. They kind of like, uh, because, like, Lost World had like,
00:17:21
Speaker
yeah know PlayStation, and like they like but then let's like we' we' play stuff a Game Boy Advance now. we don't wear This isn't big enough for like a yeah like a PlayStation. and like They didn't do like the marketing blitz.
00:17:34
Speaker
And I think they knew we're going to go for like a simple adventure, which, again, isn't bad, because it could be worse.
00:17:44
Speaker
was it debate number like I think the big deal is that there wasn't like a fast food promotion. oh yeah. there was not I think McDonald's was like, no thank you. think at this point, like people were kind of getting tired of dinosaurs in this 2001 era.
00:18:00
Speaker
Because around this point, like wow, this shit was about to get real in the world.
00:18:08
Speaker
But yeah, like the 90s fascination dinosaurs
Dinosaur Popularity Decline
00:18:13
Speaker
was coming to an end. Because I think the movie Dinosaurs came out in 1999.
00:18:20
Speaker
i think I think it was 2000. I think it was the year before this movie came out And that did okay.
00:18:27
Speaker
And I just remember like, yeah, I'm like, they just didn't hype up dinosaurs at any point. And then you get to like, you get to the like, the like, okay, they're not introducing any new hero. You're seeing Alan Grant again, which is great because Alan Grant definitely, you know, was the fan favorite, I think, for like a lot of people in the original Jurassic Park.
00:18:49
Speaker
ah but this time it's like he's going through like middle age and he's sad he's alone and it's like
00:18:59
Speaker
it was like really hard to market to like the kid that's in this movie because he doesn't get introduced until like the midpoint of this movie yeah so it's hard to be like yeah this movie is just like for everybody but it's more like kids love William H. Macy and Tay Leone right
00:19:21
Speaker
ah Not to on a super tangent about the kid part, but, like, this movie also has that problem where, like, you introduce too many father figures and then you killed one all. And I think there's, like, no grievance point for the guy, they but the, like, stepdad or the boyfriend dad that, like, gets killed.
00:19:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah. No one gives a shit about him. They fight his mango skeleton. yeah His death brings the family back together. Which also, like, he must have got, like, he got attacked, like, the second they got they laid in on it. Like, but because, like, he you see, like, their, like, home video of what happened to them.
00:19:59
Speaker
And then Eric drops out, like, he drops Eric to, like, the forest floor. And Eric's like, oh, the camera's still on. They must have got attacked, like, the second after they turned the camera off. Because he's still hanging from a tree. three No, he's in the tree. yeah It's like a spinosaurus or someone just chopped him. I mean, he might have he might have died from his the impact of hitting the tree.
00:20:23
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe. we have yeah no i Maybe the dinosaur fog got him. The toxic fog. The engine fog. Hmm. Because, like, I remember, like, yeah, the that the boyfriend dad is there.
00:20:38
Speaker
And then um you find out that, like, Taleone is like, oh, yeah, like, I got to find my son. Ha ha. Like, they put on such a big facade. And the first hour of the first act of this movie is just convincing Grant to go.
00:20:54
Speaker
Like, yes, it's just, hey, you're a dinosaur expert. You should go. And it's like, why? you're You're desperate for money for your research because no one's funding actual paleontology they because because dinosaurs exist in the real world now.
00:21:08
Speaker
I mean, it does... It sort of, like, reflects that, hey, like you're you're in this like outdated study and now the dinosaurs are back and we can make them whatever size and we can study their habits.
00:21:19
Speaker
Because it's like...
Dinosaur Communication
00:21:20
Speaker
okay so ah I just remembered, like, the big thing about this movie was that the dinosaurs could talk. Like, not not in English, but, like, they can communicate.
00:21:32
Speaker
Yeah, like, Velociraptors have, like, an actual, like, language. And so, that was, like, the big, oh, look at that, like, something from the past is so relevant to the future, ooh.
00:21:44
Speaker
But I'm like, wait, so you, these people grew dinosaurs for, like, years, and they just figured that out now?
00:21:53
Speaker
grant like Grant did but studying bones, like because he's studying their skull cavities, and they found like that ah like their larynx. And then they have a super early 3D printer that they can print out the 3D printed copy of the larynx.
00:22:12
Speaker
Which, thank god they did that, because that like saves them like multiple times.
00:22:18
Speaker
Which they never bring up again. Like, you never see the, like, lyric, like, flute.
00:22:26
Speaker
No, they they they use it they use it, like, like um especially at the end, because, like... No, no, I meant, like, in the series. Oh, no, yeah, they didt never... Raptors, they never, like, try to, like, talk to raptors or do anything like...
00:22:40
Speaker
Chris Pratt just has his like hand stuff. He has his hand commands. Yeah, like any kind of like animal training. He's just because of Zeke and Roy. he's like a what He's like a clicker in his hands.
00:22:54
Speaker
But you do it with like big cat animals. you do But it wouldn't have been better if he had a raptor horn.
00:23:08
Speaker
Yeah, or yeah if they if they figured out what different sounds mean, because they figure out what like they figure out what raptors, do like, if they're calling for help, there's a certain sound that they use in this movie. But they're probably going to figure out like other things they're saying and actually communicate with them.
00:23:24
Speaker
Okay, not to spell more in the series of these Jurassic Park movies, but does Grant ever mention that, where he's like, I talked to a raptor once?
Missed Sequel Opportunities
00:23:33
Speaker
No, I don't think, ah because Second Dominion, like I don't think he mentions anything about Dressabur III.
00:23:39
Speaker
That's unfortunate. Because it's like one of those cool like nods where it's like, oh, like I can make the sound and like make the dinosaurs confused, or I can summon them.
00:23:50
Speaker
like Chris Pratt does the hand thing, and then Alan Grant does the sound thing, and then together they are some super team. Yeah. Yeah. I guess we don't get that far.
00:24:01
Speaker
um I mean, okay. So let's get back to the plot.
00:24:06
Speaker
So this movie is dated because William H. Macy's like an electronic king or something. Like, isn't he like the deeper king? He, he says he's an import exports, which is a classic, like late nineties or like thousands, like fake job.
00:24:19
Speaker
But then he's really, he really runs like a hardware store in a mall.
00:24:25
Speaker
Like Kirby Paintout Plus. And like, he sank his whole fortune into this insane mission.
00:24:34
Speaker
i don't I don't know if he actually sank his fortune. I think he wrote them checks, and then they were going bounce. Everybody? The mercenaries? The mercenaries, like Grant? Yeah. His alimony.
Tech and Mercenaries
00:24:50
Speaker
He can afford a satellite like phone, though. so Which constantly comes up. Yeah, this is when I learned about satellite phones, I think. This is the first movie that was like, hey, you can just make a long-distance call with it.
00:25:03
Speaker
And the satellite phones are insanely durable. i'm I'm surprised there wasn't like a money shot of like what brand of phone it was.
00:25:14
Speaker
like i i think it's like a Samsung or like a Nokia maybe or something? Yeah. unique so which yeah which I think the ringtone that they're like, oh, it's it's dad's jingle.
00:25:26
Speaker
it's like i think I think it's like the default like ring that the phone has. They just put lyrics on
00:25:35
Speaker
it. it's like ah That's like a great running joke. cause like You hear you hear the the phone ringing and a lot of times it's like, in it that means the Spinosaurus is near because it's like there's he ate the guy that has the phone in his stomach.
00:25:49
Speaker
Yeah, I feel bad for the mercenary team, but like we had no real time to know them. you don't really you just They're just disposable guys for almost the whole time they're there. Well, when they're first introduced, they seem pretty confident. They're like in their like airplane graveyard, and they're blowing up an airplane. It's like, oh man, these guys are badass.
00:26:09
Speaker
But then, yeah, within 10 minutes of landing on Isla Sorda, two of them are dead already. Yeah.
00:26:20
Speaker
They're completely ill-equipped to face dinosaurs. Oh, yeah. like It's just the three people, three mercenaries, right? And then if you remember like any kind of 90s movie or like kind of kid stuff, like Michael Jester was the villain from like Air Bud.
00:26:42
Speaker
Oh, Michael Jeter? Yeah. peterter yeah And it's like that movie came out year before this. Yeah, it's it's it's like crazy. yeah crazy he's the He's like the last survivor of the mercenary team. Yeah, and it's like, so they teamed up with the guy from Air Bud.
00:26:57
Speaker
He's in it. All right. And then John Dale. John Dale is like, like ah recently, Zach, we watched that movie about the kid playing Arcee stuff.
00:27:08
Speaker
oh Oh, yeah. Remote. Yeah, Remote. He's also in the mercenary crew. like I grew up watching Remote, so I was like, why is the guy from like the villain from Remote, the like weird are not Home Alone movie?
00:27:23
Speaker
And he's in it, and he's the tough guy. And then you get Bruce A. Young, who plays Nash, who's the pilot, which arguably was like the most important role, because he's the only who can fly a plane if they get it again.
00:27:44
Speaker
Yeah, but isn't he he's like killed off like immediately. Well, so yeah, so. Oh no no, he's not. No, no, it's the other guy, but.
00:27:55
Speaker
I think, yeah, cooper Cooper, they leave Cooper behind. He's on the runway. They pull up, they they they try they're trying to fly away. And Spinosaurus, like, stomps onto the runway and eats Cooper. But then they smash... The Spinosaurus smashes into the Spinosaurus. And, like, I guess the Spinosaurus is so... Like, his skin's so durable. Like, it just, like, destroys the plane.
00:28:15
Speaker
And then they crash into a tree.
00:28:21
Speaker
guess there's a little bit of blood when it hits, like... It's, like, the Spinosaurus is a little bit injured. But it's... Other than that, like, yeah... causes massive damage to a small plane. I'm also thinking, like, it's it's like a really badass introduction to Spinosaurus.
00:28:37
Speaker
It's like...
00:28:41
Speaker
Even, like, being hit by, like, a little jetliner, like a twin engine thing, it gets to, like, shrug it off. Oh, yeah. They they they are selling Spinosaurus hard in this movie. Like, they had the whole fight with T-Rex where it's just like, oh, you thought T-Rex was bad?
00:28:59
Speaker
Spinosaurus is here. if it just killed the T-Rex. Yeah.
00:29:06
Speaker
which i that's Which I think that's like the first Jurassic World series, sub-series. as hey That's all I've been doing now is having like giant dinosaur fights the end of every movie. But this is the first big like dinosaur fight I think we've seen the in the franchise.
00:29:22
Speaker
Which is cool, because I feel like we were kind of expecting more of that. i don't think we've ever seen
00:29:29
Speaker
like animal fights to that degree. The rest of the time, the animals are just running away from each other. The raptors attacked T-Rex at the end of the first one, you get a little bit... like That was like a really quick, not really... It wasn't a big fight. like This is the first like big like fight fight.
00:29:47
Speaker
And obviously, Jurassic World, like the entire like last like half hour is just like a giant fight between T-Rex, Indomitus Rex, Raptors, Mosasaurus. Everyone's in on it.
00:30:02
Speaker
So... Another thing about the mercenary crew that we still can't figure out is that they're geared up. They showed up, they have all this weaponry. yeah They're locked and loaded.
00:30:13
Speaker
guess they bump into the skeletal wrecks. Spina- Spina-
00:30:21
Speaker
despite minators whatever they don't even go i don't know how far they go in the wood like the woods, because they're like forming a perimeter around the airstrip. I don't think they go that far, and they're just like, oh shit, we gotta get out of here, it's mysaurus! It's like, oh shit, dinosaurs are real, like, whatever yeah they said that they said about this. But, like, this is after Lost World, where everyone was on the news about these dinosaurs that showed up in San Diego.
00:30:50
Speaker
and they saw And they saw dinosaurs out the window of the plane, which... like Grant's trying to explain like it's like trying to be a tour guide, but then the he realizes, like oh, they're not interested in dinosaurs. They're looking for someone. Yeah, yeah. So that's another thing. That was the surprise. It's not just we want to see dinosaurs.
00:31:05
Speaker
We're now on a rescue mission, which I think like for some odd reason, Grant's assistant is just like, yeah, yeah, let's do with this. like did he Did he know that they're on a rescue mission? Because he seems very passive about this.
00:31:19
Speaker
No, i think i think he was I think he thought they were rich people, but he was like very like, we we need money. We are desperate for money. It's also very weird like to hear Alessandro Navallo like not have a Russian accent.
00:31:35
Speaker
Yeah. After his performance. He always has an accent in every movie except for this one. At least once I've seen him in. Raven? Raven? Yeah, Kraven, The Rock.
00:31:47
Speaker
and No, no, Face Off. And I think he was in The Brutalist. like He was in Kraven and The Brutalist last year. wow The two ends of the spectrum.
00:32:00
Speaker
yeah, he always has like a you a Russian or like Eastern European accent, usually. But then, yeah, he here he's just a regular dude.
00:32:10
Speaker
Well, one of the movies I like that he's in is The Art of Self-Defense. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. He plays a quiet like karate teacher in that.
00:32:23
Speaker
Which I totally like forget he is. like He's a pretty good actor where like he does blend in. And then you find out that he's like from Boston. yeah like It's just crazy.
00:32:36
Speaker
um But yeah, as Billy, I think one year we did talk about this movie for his anniversary just on the regular podcast and Like, we universally just hated Billy, because, like, it was like, he was a character almost designed to be knocked off and be the emotional crux.
00:32:53
Speaker
he yeah he He kind of has, like, poochy energy. Where he's, like, the he's like the cool is it the cool, like, yeah like you Grant was cool? Here's ah here's young, hunky, cool dr gray like he likes eyesosorss too
00:33:08
Speaker
And I think, like... He can also paraglide. He can hang glide. you He does all the stunts that Grant could have done. Like, he does in the game.
00:33:19
Speaker
Isn't it also weird that if you played the Super NES or the Genesis, like, Rampage edition of Jurassic Park, and Grant is basically just mowing down people and running and gunning? Or, uh, like, the Super Nintendo, like, Chaos Continues, where he's basically a commando?
00:33:33
Speaker
Yeah. And then just don't get that. And this, it's like, It's like, he's he's like, I retired the dinosaur hunting life.
Alan Grant's Survival Skills
00:33:45
Speaker
i do I do appreciate his like very like um like cynical attitude. He's like, well, we're all going to probably go die anyway, so let's try to make our way to the coast. Even though not if he's going to make the last island alive.
00:33:59
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty funny that he's just like, oh well, like I'll be a downer, but i I also want to see if I can survive this again for a second time.
00:34:12
Speaker
Because he's been there. Out of everyone, like he knows like it's not impossible to survive the island. It's just really hard. And most of the time, like his lucky charm is being paired with like a young person.
00:34:28
Speaker
yeah You know, it's not like his character didn't team up with kids. It's like he's always teamed up with kids, I think, in his first two appearances. I didn't see the last one, but is there a kid somewhere in his posse?
00:34:42
Speaker
i mean, you got Maisie, the cloned human. The cloned human girl. It still exists. His secret thing is that you always need like a younger companion that he can explain dinosaur science to or something.
00:34:55
Speaker
Well, I think that's the, like, Eric is already a fan of, like, he's read both of Grant's books before he gets, like, lost on the island, so that's, I guess, i guess that's the only explanation of how he's able to survive for eight weeks by himself.
00:35:06
Speaker
Those are insanely good books that pretty much tell you, like, these are the behaviors, and then you basically can trick them with, like, camouflage and living in tree tents.
00:35:17
Speaker
Yeah, because the like it's not like... don't even think... They don't even mention Eric was in the Boy Scouts. Did he camp a lot? ah guess like Like, his dad is putz.
00:35:30
Speaker
His dad is like a loser who kind of becomes... He has an arc of where he becomes more competent throughout the movie.
Character Development: Macy and Leoni
00:35:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. but the beginning like William H. Macy's character is from Fargo.
00:35:42
Speaker
Pretty much, yeah. He's one of those like conniving, not conniving, but like double faced guys that will like, yeah, I'll pay you back the money. and you're like, yeah, I guess. And then it's like, well, no, I use it to like fund my expedition to South America.
00:35:58
Speaker
i I do love like when when like the charade is like revealed and like he's like he's just like a hardware owner like store owner from Indiana wherever they're from. like he's it's just like a they They really play up his loser-ishness.
00:36:10
Speaker
like but but like One of my favorite scenes of the entire franchise is when he goes, they find like the vending machines. He's like, does anybody change? I got like a buck 25 and Billy just kicks open the vending machine.
00:36:23
Speaker
But he's trying to like find put change on these like clearly like destroyed non-functional vending machines. Yeah, he's just like a kind guy that still wants play by the rules. He can't put a backpack on.
00:36:35
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense that he has to.
00:36:40
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, he kind of he he does get kind of an arc. at like he like He comes through at the end, i guess, as a Spinosaurus. I feel like Taylor Yoni is given no favors. like She's like the Willie Scott of this movie. Oh my god, I was going to say that. It is comical.
00:36:58
Speaker
She's just loud. like As soon as they land, she they in order it's like Willie Scott at didn't get a megaphone. Like, she shows up, she's screaming, she's ignoring the things, and then as soon as, like, a dinosaur appears on a dinosaur island, it's just, like, I am gonna be a comical, like, mom. Just screaming. Just screaming. the oh That's her entire character.
00:37:20
Speaker
she just Yeah, she she has to get, like, the same, like, arc that William H. Bacy gets. Yep. Like, If anything, we're all like, didn't your boyfriend and husband go away? She like sees his body, screams, throws it, and then she's just like, okay, well, on to the next thing I could scream about.
00:37:39
Speaker
I'm not worried about him. I'm worried about our son. and i don't care about him anymore. Isn't it like a crazy line she drops? and we're just like I in theaters like kind of hearing that and just like looking at my parents and I'm like, what? because william h macy like cause She runs off after the skeleton falls out from the tree.
00:37:58
Speaker
She runs in open plane. like It's not like she ran in a building, like she ran back to a car to fly. Just get to the jungle, yeah. It's like, you know there's death like all around you. like There's probably a dinosaur being eaten like right over there.
00:38:12
Speaker
But William Chase is like, hey, I'm sorry about Billy. I'm sorry what happened to him. And she's like, well, I don't care about what happened to him. care about what happened to Eric. like Did you meet Billy last week? What like who was your... On vacation? When they were on their vacation?
00:38:27
Speaker
was like Was she at court? And then like, you know... Oh man, I forget this guy's name.
00:38:38
Speaker
The guy who play the guy guy guy plays Ben? Yeah. it's it Ben. It's like, oh no, I just met Ben like you know at like... At like a resort. Like... Yeah, like that like that like there's resort from the like the home video. And it's like, hey, can I take your son parasailing?
00:38:54
Speaker
He's like, sure. just me and your son. You stay home. You stay in the land. I'm going to bring my camera with me.
00:39:06
Speaker
It's kind of questionable. In a modern thing, they would vilify Ben. And that's why he dies. We root for that. But because there's no contact, it's just confusing.
Ben's Death Mystery
00:39:16
Speaker
Like, yeah.
00:39:17
Speaker
or You think they're going to tell Ben's family what happened? Or are they going be like... I don't know. He just disappeared. He just left one day. Yeah, he went... ah he he disappeared with us to, like, I think with, like, the most southern region from America to there. So it'd be, like, Florida. Like, they left the Florida airport and then to go to, like, South America.
00:39:46
Speaker
And then totally did not know what happened. They just came back together just was like, you had no idea what your, like, your relative went.
00:39:58
Speaker
Because feel like they didn't want to... They really desperately did not want to get help from anyone else because what they knew was being on that island is super illegal. Well, they they said they they tried to talk to the U.S. consulate or embassy and they're like, they wouldn't help them because it's a restricted island. They shouldn't have out anyway.
00:40:14
Speaker
so wow I think that's kind of like the gist of it. so like It's like, well, we got to take matters in our own hand, and we'll but trick... Well, I think i think the embassy was kind of weird of like, well, if you're going to go there, you but probably should get like someone who knows dinosaurs, who knows the island, to like guide you there. so so they That's such a weird thing for the embassy to say.
00:40:36
Speaker
I feel like that's i feel that's what they like that's why they they go to Grant, because they're like, well, they said we need a dinosaur expert, like and or someone who's been on the island before.
Site B's Geography
00:40:45
Speaker
and it that's when Billy's like, he hasn't been here before. This is like B. He's been this Eastland Nublar. And they're like, isn't this that?
00:40:54
Speaker
And they're like, oh, no. we't We didn't see the second movie.
00:41:01
Speaker
It is crazy. like Even to me, I always thought this was like another island just because it's so different. And I was just like the family where I'm like, isn't that the same? I heard all about it.
00:41:14
Speaker
Because Grant wrote a book about his experience, too. Yeah. So did Malcolm.
00:41:23
Speaker
I mean, I guess East of the Sword is just like gigantic. and We only saw like a a small portion of it in lost World. Because it has, like, a giant river, it's got a canyon system, yeah, it's got mountain that mountain range.
00:41:35
Speaker
well Other facilities. Well, Issa Nubla, I think, is like, oh, this is Issa Sor, right? Issa Sor, yeah. Issa Nubla is the actual, is the, like, Jurassic Park.
00:41:48
Speaker
Okay, not to jump in another tangent, like, in the next movie it's none of these islands it's like another island that like no you be re yeah rebirth is like site c or like i don't i don't know they said what yeah the island's called yet but or i don't think it's an island i think i think it's just like that all the dinosaurs like migrated like the equator so they're just like traveling along the equator and like different islands of different like places along the equator to fight these dinosaurs i see and somehow like the world just made new islands for them And then, yeah, Eastland New World got blown up in Fallen Kingdom because a volcano erupted and destroyed the island.
00:42:25
Speaker
You know, we say that now, and then, like, 12 years, it's just, like, the reboot where it's, like, suddenly that island came back. And now dinosaurs have elemental powers. They're fire dinosaurs.
00:42:38
Speaker
Yeah, they're just lava dinosaurs. That's what's going to amp up the movie where it's, like, we have to dip ourselves in mud because they can see our heat or something. Whatever we did to their dna caused them to be but resistant to lava. like They absorbed lava into their skin. Now they're mo they fire monsters.
00:42:57
Speaker
So, do you remember seeing some of the early drafts of Jurassic Park 3? Where it was going to go off the rails like hard? but Like the dinosaur human soldiers with the machine guns? Yeah.
00:43:12
Speaker
And I remember like years ago when we talked about this, were like, oh man, that would have been like dumb enough to work. But I do appreciate that like it's not there yet. I know eventually that's going come back.
00:43:25
Speaker
There's no way in hell they're not going to do like a dinosaur-human hybrid.
Scrapped Concepts
00:43:29
Speaker
They dropped the whole human cloning. I can't imagine all it takes is to modify the DNA just a little bit more, and now we have like raptor DNA. We've got King Koopa from the Super Mario Bros. movie.
00:43:43
Speaker
i I think Rebirth has some just like crazy, like they' they're not, they don't even look like dinosaurs anymore or like recognizable dinosaurs. They're just like straight up just like Godzilla monsters. Right.
00:43:55
Speaker
So ah another thing about this movie, they introduced the whole, ah I guess like follow the kid who's now the expert. Because as soon as like they find what's his face?
00:44:11
Speaker
Eric. Eric. Yeah, then that becomes like now it's like follow this kid adventurer who's been like ramboing the island. he's like who's Who's done like insane stuff like gather T-Rex piss.
00:44:23
Speaker
Oh, yeah. It's crazy. Like this kid has been here for like eight days. Eight weeks. Jesus.
00:44:29
Speaker
Which is funny. Like, like, there's line where Grant's like, it's like, Eric, I'm so shocked that you just tried eight weeks here by yourself. And Eric's like, it's only been eight weeks.
00:44:43
Speaker
But but yeah is I think he also has a fresh raptor claw. And he's got gas grenades. He's got his whole like camouflage outfit. like yeah he's He's become like ah like a grizzled like Rambo survivor.
00:44:57
Speaker
he's had a kill. There's no way he did not try to kill. He had to defend himself on that island. But we never get that. i How crazy would it be like of a game where you see...
00:45:11
Speaker
ah You play as Eric? Yeah, just like like running like finding hiding spots, like like stealth missioning his way. But like from a look at the line real quick, like there are kid books that describe the eight weeks in a series of books.
00:45:28
Speaker
Oh good, yeah. so the They just like they brush over that so quick. oh yeah It's weird that there are like breath like three prequel books for this.
00:45:39
Speaker
Jurassic Park Survivor, Jurassic Park Prey, and Jurassic Park Flyers.
00:45:49
Speaker
And I have not read any of them. Not yet.
00:45:56
Speaker
i don't think I don't think I've ever seen or read like the like novelization of this either. Because obviously there was a Michael Crayon book that is like is like
00:46:06
Speaker
It's here's the book the movie's on. It's like, no, we had to right ah write a new but ah new book. We're going to add a bunch of stuff into it. Well, not not to spoil much, but one of them involves a tie-in to Universal Studios theme parks where basically Alan and Eric go back and then they lure the Peridons.
00:46:28
Speaker
Peridons? Peridons. They like lead them back to Universal Studios. It's like a canonical lore in the book. like Was that for like trying to explain like the Tyrandon flyer rollercoaster?
00:46:43
Speaker
got it. I'm looking it online. and it's just Holy shit. so it's just like ah ven So it's like the first book in the Eric adventures was just him on that for the eight weeks.
00:46:55
Speaker
The second book in his adventures that him and Alan go back to the island. and then they try to get a group of teenage filmmakers who also just got there.
00:47:07
Speaker
like Who also are there doing their own thing. And then finally the last book in the series is like Eric and Alan going, okay, well, like people keep coming to this island to see these dinosaurs. We should bring them back to like America so people can visit them safely at Universal Studios.
00:47:22
Speaker
Because that worked out the last time. yeah What did they do different that NGen couldn't do? Mm-hmm.
00:47:35
Speaker
That is kind of like a big cliffhanger. Because they make such a big deal, especially say at the end of like Fallen Kingdom, of like, dinosaurs, now and now they're loose. They're in the world now. But it's like, in Rastar Mark III, there's like, Tyrandons are in the world now.
00:47:50
Speaker
and you can't really stop them. If they want to do something, you just have to let them. Because aren't they like a protected species? Probably.
00:48:02
Speaker
The whole birdcage sequence is pretty great, though. It is. I think that's like pretty much the but like this and then the boat scene is pretty much the only like tense moments in the movie. Even the scene where they're the raptor lab and then they're just running around, it's not... It's cool, but like we've seen it before.
00:48:20
Speaker
Yeah.
Raptor Intelligence
00:48:22
Speaker
Although you get some new stuff like the raptors set a trap, they like they capture Michael Jeter and like like break his back and and like leave him there to see if anyone will come try to rescue him.
00:48:35
Speaker
And then like when they figure it out, they they like snap his neck and leave. Yeah, they don't eat him for food. They're just like, alright, on to the next thing. You're useless to us now. Snap your neck.
00:48:48
Speaker
But yeah, it's it's it's cool. like you You've never seen pteranodons or flying dinosaurs really in the franchise up to that point. so ah hold That whole big sequence is great.
00:48:59
Speaker
Like, Billy billy ah bill using the hang glider and... ah Eric being attacked by the baby Thrandons, and then i love the look when, like, Billy falls in the water and, they like, attacking him, and the one, like, looks back at Alan and and ah William H. Macy, just like, you guys are next.
00:49:17
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's pretty, like, pretty fun to see, like, the the people who have no dinosaur experience just get, like, the crash course of what Jurassic, like, what being near these, like, monsters are like.
00:49:29
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:49:32
Speaker
Because this point in the movies, like we've been this is ah like you know two adventures in, if you're a big fan Jurassic Park, you don't want the same shots, but you kind of want the certain beats. Yeah, well I will give the credit. data They really tried to like introduce Spinosaurus, Tyrannodon, they tried introduce some new dinosaurs. They didn't just like lean like lean on T-Rex.
00:49:52
Speaker
i mean, the raptors are back, but you always have to have raptors because they're like the stars of the franchise. like this this is what like That's what made Jurassic Park huge, is raptors.
00:50:04
Speaker
But they try to introduce, like, just like the Lost World had, like, so like Stegosaurus and, you know, all the other dinosaurs that they introduced, the copies and stuff. Mm-hmm.
00:50:15
Speaker
Uh, wouldn't it have been cool if you thought, like, okay, you saw some more normal-looking dinosaurs, but then you saw, like, like, something genetic at the end. Just, like, surprise! It's not like the Verizon presents the, like, crazy monster, but you got something where it's like, oh, um,
00:50:33
Speaker
Here's the Godzilla we were afraid of. It mutated with a frog or an iguana.
00:50:42
Speaker
They locked this one in a bunker, but it got out. it's like but Spinosaurus was on the list. This one definitely was on the list.
Spinosaurus and Animatronics
00:50:54
Speaker
It's also... like the um it It is kind of surprising that Billy survives that terrain attack because there's like so much blood in the water when he's like floating down the river and like and pecking at him.
00:51:05
Speaker
Yeah. I definitely think the movie would have been more impactful if he died, but it's like at this point, the core crew just totally survives everything. I guess that was it was originally when they were going to kill Billy, but Alessandro Navallo was like, please don't kill me.
00:51:18
Speaker
and they're like, all right, we won't. You'll survive somehow. magically the birds that have been hunting people and eating people are just going to be like, we're fans of you. Like, you yeah, you got, you you got like ah shredded by razor sharp beaks, but yeah, somehow you made it down that river.
00:51:36
Speaker
Like, washed up on the beach, I guess, and the army found you. Oh, it's like a post, like, production insert scene. ah did Like, there should have been thing where, like, he fell over a water cliff and then it's like, assume he's dead would never know, and it's like,
00:51:53
Speaker
you know, poor Billy. But because they, like, find him safely floating in the ocean? I guess, yeah.
00:52:06
Speaker
But, yeah, I don't feel i really feel like they shot, like, that, like, quick just the amount of blood in the water, like, it definitely feels like that was, like, oh, that's his death. And then it's, like, and after that, it's, like, he was like, oh, yeah, please don't kill me. Like, maybe I don't want to die this movie. you're like, all right, wellll we'll we'll shoot this, we'll wrap you up bandages and shoot the scene. Like, you survived somehow.
00:52:31
Speaker
And then, like, you mentioned, like, the big, like, the boat, the boat sequence is also, like, pretty great. Yeah, the boat sequence definitely is, like, just, I'm afraid of, like, dark water boat things where it's, like, like, everything about that scene is horrible or, like, a phobia of, like, just,
00:52:46
Speaker
but like I think there's like ah an exact phobia, but it's like dark water you can't see you through at night, in the rain, with a monster. You locked yourself in a like cage, so there's like claustrophobia a little bit. of like You're in this cage on this boat.
00:53:01
Speaker
Yeah. And now you've got a monster that like is trying actively trying to get you. Not like, oh, it's just hanging around. like No, it's... For some weird reason, it really has a vengeful need to kill you.
00:53:13
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:53:16
Speaker
And i think I think that was the... I don't know if it still is, but I think like at the time, that was the largest animatronic ever made. Really? And it was like it was so dangerous. like I think Taylor Eona actually got like like actual like giant scratches on her back from it.
00:53:35
Speaker
I'm just like swimming next to it. Yeah, like when they were like doing the swiping editor in the water and stuff and then like I think i think the head of animatronic T-Rex and animatronic Spinosaurus and Spinosaurus actually ripped like the robotpe like the T-Rex's head off.
00:53:50
Speaker
Whoa. Because it was like so insanely powerful.
00:53:58
Speaker
And it was like, however many, it was like 250 tons or how how much it weighed. it was like this, like, just absolute beast of a machine. Yeah, I mean, like, the original T-Rex, how much, like, they had to, like, dry it between takes and then it, like, rusted and broke because Steven Spielberg has a hilarious track record of, like, animatronics failing on them.
00:54:20
Speaker
I think this time they, like, sort of improved the technology so that way they, like, put it in a river, like a fake river. It's not just going like, blow up. Yeah, because the area of trouble, like, rain in the first one with T-Rex.
00:54:35
Speaker
But yeah, now now it's in, like, an actual, like, i think that I think I read it was, like, it's the set from Creature from the Black Lagoon.
00:54:46
Speaker
It's, like, the main river sequence where the Spansaurus is, like, attacking them. It's, like, the actual, like, Creature from the Black Lagoon. Mm-hmm.
00:54:55
Speaker
That's cool. That's, like, history. But also, did you also feel, like, a little let down during this time the Spinosaurus just sort of, like, walks away? Yeah, it's a little anticlimactic.
00:55:07
Speaker
I know it's not the true final scene. Like, this feels like they should have solved this and then, like, sailed off into... and And, like, meets up with, like, a ship or something, but... It's not. like This whole movie is about family. Even the last act, the last part is just like, oh, you found your son. We want our eggs. like This next scene we're going to talk about.
00:55:29
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah yeah the Spider-Man sequence definitely feels like that's like the big climax of the movie. And then it's just like, oh, actually, we had to deal with this raptor egg thing. we still have one more scene.
00:55:42
Speaker
Because Billy decided to steal eggs and prove that dinosaurs are real? It's like, we know Billy. he was gonna well He said he was going to try to sell them on the black market, I guess, to make money for the dig, keep the dig going.
00:55:59
Speaker
But I don't know if dinosaur, like, that became a thing in Jurassic World, where there's a whole black market of dinosaurs, but don't know if that was thing this time period. See, they tied it back in, where it's like, maybe Billy came back, or like, you know, he told someone else, like, he found the buyer, or something.
00:56:21
Speaker
Or N'Gen was secretly funding Billy. but I mean, Bioson's still around, they were in the Dominion, so they' they're probably still interested dinosaurs.
00:56:35
Speaker
But yeah, they have a whole, like, the rettors hunt them down and circle them, and then they have to give them back the eggs. And then, Alan's able to use the, ah like, Deus Ex Machina 3D printed lyrics to do the help noise, and that kind like, confuses them.
00:56:53
Speaker
But then, helicopters show up, so that's what actually chases them away, and they run off with their eggs. and The lyrics thing was just more like, ha ha, that distracted them for, like, a few seconds, but think they heard the helicopters.
00:57:05
Speaker
they heard yeah they heard the helicopters coming. they like, oh, we gotta get out of here. You're lucky.
U.S. Government Intervention
00:57:10
Speaker
Won't be so lucky the next time I see you. Yeah. Which, you know, could be that Blue is from this pack. We don't know. Maybe. But I do like this this comical thing where, like, it's a kind of rehash of the first act, or the second act, where a guy shows up with a bullhorn.
00:57:30
Speaker
Starts announcing, hey, we're here, we're here. Mm-hmm.
00:57:36
Speaker
it is that It seems like weirdly theatrical for like the US government. Just like like, hey, Bill, like, go ah go in a suit. ah You're in a suit. Like, go on go on the beach first and then like just like start using a bullhorn. and Then we'll like will dramatically come in after you when do you find them.
00:57:53
Speaker
Yeah, that that seemed like a planned thing. Like a very purposeful, like comical thing. Yeah.
00:58:00
Speaker
but Let's make this just but just as dramatic as possible. Yeah. make it like like Let's give this kid a little treat. It's not just people. It's like, crap show up. like All this equipment appears.
00:58:14
Speaker
Marines, yeah, the Navy. Which I feel like there's definitely a tease. like i like they're They're teasing that we we were going to get like some sort of like army versus dinosaurs maybe at the end.
00:58:25
Speaker
But they don't they don't do that. yeah met Again, we never see a dinosaur get killed by a gun. Like, yeah, like, imagine like, the Spinosaurus, like, burst of the jungle again, they they like, the Murugans have to fight the Spinosaurus.
00:58:40
Speaker
Or at least, like, injure it to some degree, like, push it back into the jungle. Yeah.
00:58:49
Speaker
But ever yeah, everyone gets in helicopter, flies away, Billy's fine, everything's fine. That's it. You see Tyrannus flying off into the sunset. If anything, Grant should be like, I'm gonna call Ellie and tell her to leave her husband.
00:59:04
Speaker
it's so it's It's weird that, like, the U.S. government is not concerned about, like, it's like, oh, there's three there's three dinosaurs escaping the island. we do something about it? Eh, no, it's fine. and We'll let them go. they but they They surely can't cause any damage in the real world.
00:59:22
Speaker
If anything, it should, like, the next island that, like... Oh, man, okay, this goes back to Lost World 2, but, like, The, like, family whose daughter was, like, bit by the... Compies? Compies? Yeah.
00:59:37
Speaker
It's like, they're, like, vacationing again, and now it's like the prodactyl show up. fix Fix up the girl. like Carries her off. Not again! i mean, but... Just got her to come out.
00:59:54
Speaker
Like, talk about, like, an invasive species. Like, I mean... We... Like, frogs are issue. Like, know, cane toads in Australia are major issue. Like, you got, like, Tyrandons flying into, like, an Ione, like, starting, like, carrying off cows or something. Like, that's, like, no one's concerned about that.
01:00:15
Speaker
And they never mention them again. Weird, right? Because Jurassic World's like, oh, yeah, we we built we actually built a functioning theme park. it's everything Everything's fine.
01:00:27
Speaker
we had of ah we actually hi We hired a good amount of programmers and backup generators, and then like... What they didn't expect was like how many guns they needed. They only had like eight guns on that island.
01:00:40
Speaker
Yeah, like like a tainment team, whatever it was.
01:00:44
Speaker
there i think they had did they even have real good I think they had like tasers. I think they had like electricity guns. Yeah, they had like bullshit guns that tickled the dinosaur to sleep.
01:00:55
Speaker
Because they cost too much. They didn't want to kill them. like a Probably like a half a billion dollar ah project.
01:01:12
Speaker
And you're also you also so like a crazy like evil geneticist and a military war dog into your company to like make Velociraptors into like um special forces weapons.
01:01:27
Speaker
We're going to drop him into Iraq!
01:01:32
Speaker
Yeah, you shouldn't be like a guy who's just like, we haven't mastered like, I don't know, like... wolves in war. It's like, we don't send tigers into war, so like, go out back doors.
01:01:44
Speaker
Dogs kind of did, but... We barely have dogs in yeah combat, yeah. Yeah, yeah
01:01:52
Speaker
yeah. Yeah, Jurassic Park 3 is, like, over time has become a better light. it's ah It's an interesting movie for
Jurassic Park 3's Legacy
01:02:01
Speaker
other aspects. Like, I feel like if you're a kid, it's not that engaging.
01:02:06
Speaker
But if you are an adult, like, after seeing everything, like, it ranks up higher. Oh, yeah. it's it's For me, especially after seeing, like, Dominion, like, this this is, like, one of the better Jurassic Park movies.
01:02:22
Speaker
I'd probably put the first World that had this one. But, I mean, Fall Kingdom kind of falls apart, and and the Dominion is just like a giant mess.
01:02:36
Speaker
But of ah the you I think this it's definitely the weakest to the original three. Obviously, the first one is one of the greatest movies all time. Lost World, I think, is really good. Yeah, and the trilogy-wise, this is perfectly what you expect. Like, a plateau, and a fall.
01:02:52
Speaker
ah toe and a fall It doesn't over say it's welcome. It's like 90 minutes long. Dominion was i dominu was like i think like almost three hours long.
01:03:06
Speaker
Which is this new standard that we have. Which i think is like getting tired.
01:03:13
Speaker
nothing Movies don't have to be like three hours long. All of them. 90 minutes is fine. and No, three hours for your, if you're paying like $18 in the city for a movie, you want to get your money's worth.
01:03:26
Speaker
I guess.
01:03:31
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, even when I came out of this movie, I remember saying like, yeah, like I just, I, I, I watched it once in theaters and it took me like maybe two years later to watch it again when it came out on like TV or like DVD.
01:03:50
Speaker
Yeah, i but I got that, like, the was the like the original trilogy, like, Blu-ray when that came out. So, like, 2007? It was, like this like, the silver box.
01:04:01
Speaker
I think it was one of the first big Blu-ray releases of the Jurassic Park trilogy. Did they, like, convert it well, were they just on Blu-ray? I haven't haven't watched them in a while. I watch i watched Jurassic Park 3 on Peacock just because was easier. didn't want to, like, screw up with discs, but i think i think I think I remember them being okay.
01:04:22
Speaker
I should but i probably upgrade like 4K at some point.
01:04:28
Speaker
Well, depends on the TV.
01:04:31
Speaker
The quality of Dress Park 3, unless watch it on the movie is pretty dark.
01:04:38
Speaker
the movie is pretty like
01:04:43
Speaker
And there's definitely some, I mean, it's it's you know it's early 2000s. There's definitely some, like, some of the CG is not as good as, you know, it could have. I like it's some of it's step down from, like, the previous ah movies.
01:04:56
Speaker
Yeah, especially when it's, like, the flying sequences and you definitely do that, up like, ragdoll effect of the human legs. Oh yeah, when like ah but Ben and Eric are like, there's shots of them on the hang glider, looks like a TV show.
01:05:11
Speaker
but It looks like a ah cheap blue screen TV show.
01:05:18
Speaker
but yeah Anything else you want to talk about? Oh! you know yeah um I think weve forgot to mention, i don't know how we skipped it, but we gotta to mention the Velociraptor yelling Aelin.
01:05:31
Speaker
Oh my god, yeah. One of the weirdest things in the entire franchise. That is like, no one else in the series has a dinosaur dream like this. And then it comes out of like, it's like he recently saw a raptor, right? It's not like Alan was like, does every night he sees raptors or something?
01:05:52
Speaker
Well, it's weird because it's the like new, more scientifically accurate raptor with the head feathers and stuff. like He's only seen the ah like original raptors that were in first movie.
01:06:05
Speaker
So he would he have no context for these new raptors. And then he's just like dreaming about... He's on the plane saying his name. and alan
01:06:18
Speaker
I mean, granted, I like the puppeteering of it. It's stupid, because, you know, they basically were just on set and were like, hey, you want to see we can do something funny? You want to see if we can drag the puppet over here?
01:06:30
Speaker
Joe Johnson was just like, we got to have a talking dinosaur. but we have No one would expect a talking dinosaur in this movie. You got that, Joe Johnson.
01:06:41
Speaker
Speaking of which, what did Joe Johnson make before this in order be on board? I mean, he's he's always been like a you Spielberg apprentice. i mean he but But he made like Rocketeer. he made... um i think I think right before this he made October Sky was the movie right made right before this.
01:07:01
Speaker
But um he also made... i think right after this he made... What was it?
01:07:10
Speaker
Hidalgo. But ah it was Honeystruck to Kids, Rocketeer, the live-action sections of Pagemaster, Jumanji. Hmm. know, it's like an adventure movie, kid-friendly adventures.
01:07:26
Speaker
Yeah, and after Especialist Mark III, he made Hidalgo, the Wolfman, and Captain America, First Avenger.
01:07:33
Speaker
lacy He sticks the landing. I don't mind the Wolfman movie, it just doesn't pop as well, but... Man. Yeah. Crazy resume.
01:07:48
Speaker
I think he directed a bunch of ah Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, too. like I think he directed Spring Break Adventure in between like you might like ah October Sky and Jurassic Park 3, or like between Jumanji and October Sky.
01:08:03
Speaker
I feel like Jumanji was like 95. And then October Sky was like 97? Yeah. then sky was like ninety seven
01:08:13
Speaker
Yeah, I think i October 7th was like 99. Wait, the Indiana Jones show lasted that long?
01:08:24
Speaker
I think they were like... um Oh, it went to 93, but then they re-edited it into like... 99 is they started doing them as like movies. They would edit you the you it like three episodes into like one movie.
01:08:41
Speaker
Right, right.
01:08:48
Speaker
But yeah, Joe Johnson, he's been like really embedded in Lucasfilm. I think he's the guy that um with that there's like the Disney Plus documentary about Lucasfilm. He's like basically the showrunner of that, like the director of that.
01:09:02
Speaker
and he He was there. like He was ah all you aus he wass working on Star Wars. He was working on Willow. He was working on all the Lucasfilm stuff.
01:09:11
Speaker
Yeah, this movie holds up as like sort of the message of what I think Spielberg wanted to do in his movies, but movies but Yeah, it's just different.
01:09:25
Speaker
and definitely It definitely looks a lot better compared to what we got afterwards.
01:09:30
Speaker
But hopefully Rebirth is good. Neither of us have seen it yet, but hopefully Rebirth is kind of like a fun and we return to form for Jurassic franchise. Yeah, bring back the Larix whistle. Bring back Billy.
01:09:44
Speaker
yes Billy should have been part of the team, yeah. Yeah, Billy should be in there. Maybe Eric has a thing where it's like at the end of Rebirth, he leads the dinosaurs to like the next Universal Studios theme park attraction.
01:09:58
Speaker
Yeah, eric Eric should be the ultimate like Jurassic Park character because like he's arrived eight weeks on the island by himself. He should just be like a grizzled like dinosaur expert now. He should be like um Rambo where like he can't let it go.
01:10:12
Speaker
He's always dreaming about going back and seeing if he could survive again or something. He's just like an alcoholic and then like Scarptrae walks and is like, Eric, we need you. You're the only one who survived long enough to know what these dinosaurs do.
01:10:25
Speaker
It's like, alright, I'll go back.
01:10:29
Speaker
She's drinking like T-Rex piss. yeah So it it makes me feel alive.
01:10:39
Speaker
but yeah is it way His dream is like the Alan dream, the dinosaur dream, but instead of like a velociraptor, it's like the skele skeleton one.
01:10:50
Speaker
The Spinosaurus. Spinosaurus, yeah. yeah they For this whole complicated shot, they have to like build a whole like a hole like building around the Spinosaurus. Eric! just Just for one one second of the Spinosaurus saying Eric, that's it.
01:11:06
Speaker
That shot cost $20 million. Yeah. I could have fund four different independent movies, but they only did it for this one shot.
01:11:18
Speaker
But, yeah, so I think that'll do it for
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01:11:20
Speaker
Jurassic Park 3. um Come back next week, we're going from genetically engineered dinosaurs to genetically engineered alien ah human hybrids.
01:11:31
Speaker
We're talking about Species, which came out celebrating its 30th anniversary next week. So we're dive into all that.
01:11:41
Speaker
one One of the schlockcky schlocky 90s classics. Oh, yeah. like It's like an alien erotic thriller. Yes.
01:11:55
Speaker
Which, um i because like I was thinking, is that the first one that kind of popularized that? But I was like, oh, no, Life Force came out in the eighty s That was like the first one. I'm sure and it's kind of been a thing throughout all of like it's always been like yo sexy alien women coming to like kill you think the last one was the Scarlett Johansson one yeah
01:12:19
Speaker
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01:12:34
Speaker
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01:12:53
Speaker
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Speaker
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