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Krull (1983)
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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris wield The Glaive and discuss the 1983 fantasy cult classic Krull, which was recently released on 4K for the first time.
Set on the planet Krull, an evil alien force led by The Beast (Trevor Martin) invades, and the planet's two kingdoms hope to ally against them by having Princess Lyssa (Lysette Anthony) and Prince Colwyn (Ken Marshall) wed to combine their armies. While Lyssa and Colwyn fall immediately in love, their wedding is crashed by The Beast's forces, the Slayers, and Lyssa is kidnapped. Colwyn sets out on a quest to rescue her, which includes recovering the ancient weapon known as The Glaive and gathering a group of companions, which consists of a band of thieves, a cyclops, and an inept magician. Zach and Chris discuss Colwyn's exclusive use of The Glaive in the final battle, early appearances by Liam Neeson and Robbie Coltrane, the workings of the Widow of the Webs' magic sand, the battle between sci-fi and fantasy armies, and more.
You can check out the new 4K of Krull or stream it on Tubi. Next week, we're heading into the new DCU and talking about one of the year's biggest movies, Superman, as it's now streaming on HBO Max and will be on Blu-ray/4K on Tuesday.
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Introduction and 'Krull' 4K Release
00:00:03
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Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of EverythingAction.com.
00:00:18
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast podcast week of September 15th, 2025. I'm your host Zach. I'm your co-host Chris. And this week we are wheeling the glaive and talking about Krull.
00:00:29
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the 1983 fantasy classic, I mean cult classic I guess, um which just came out this week on four k for the first time. so you can watch it in probably the highest quality it's ever been in You can see all the all the crazy, surreal nightmare locations and ah questionable green screen in the best possible quality.
Genre Blending in 'Krull'
00:00:55
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I mean, there are sweeping landscape shops, because that is, like, 10% of this movie is establishing shots. Yeah. yeah some of those Some look fantastic, and other times there's some, like, oh, there's a green screen, or a blue screen, I guess, because it was the eighty s like Yeah, yeah.
00:01:12
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Just because, like, this movie does use a good amount of practical effects, just because wherever they were filming, they just wouldn't. Yeah, this could either be a sci-fi opera, or it could be a medieval classic.
00:01:24
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you know And they're like, why not both? Yeah, it's like Conan, the Barbarian, Star Wars, smash them together.
00:01:33
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yeah i guess it's s is more like Lord the Rings maybe or something because it's like there's like an evil, there's an ancient evil that they have to go find. or And there's a band of people that join on this quest to save the land. Yeah, I was going to say was close to Dune, but it is Lord the Rings meets Dune.
Influence and Legacy of 'Krull'
00:01:52
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it's got It's got a little bit of, like, a lot of things in it. Yeah. Even though we were talking beforehand, like, it's it's crazy that, like, this is, like, early 80s. It's 83. Because it feels like there's, like, elements of, like, things that came after it.
00:02:05
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Like, we're talking about, like, like Dune is the the year after this. so And then, like, stuff like, don't know, like, Labyrinth and, like, all the other, like, Barbarian movies and...
00:02:19
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legend and stuff like that like all all that's like after this movie that's wild because this feels so uh like at the tail end yes but yeah it's like very early on in the uh warm-up of how wacky the like experimental like these movies were du like coming
00:02:47
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Well, it's like fantasy was like, like i such a huge genre in the
Impact of 'Conan the Barbarian'
00:02:51
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eighties. Like, like after Conan the Barbarian came it was just like, everyone had to make their own like sword and sandal, like fantasy movie.
00:03:02
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That's true. Uh, the, as soon as Conan showed up, it was, it might as well have been like a lightsaber, like unleashing, you know, in cinema, it was just like this muscle bound dude. And then because they didn't find enough Arnold lookalikes, um,
00:03:16
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they went, all right, how can we take the concept of like classic Arthurian tales and then just like make it hip for this like new Coke generation?
00:03:32
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If a crow put lasers in it. on And then laser effects for no reason. And then aliens? You know, there's a lot going on.
Sci-fi and Medieval Worlds in 'Krull'
00:03:41
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Like, the more you list it out.
00:03:43
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Do you want to try? Well, I mean, it's it's sort of like, I mean, it's like the it's like if the Empire from Star Wars, like, attacked, like, like, Lord of the Rings or something.
00:03:55
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Like, they ended up in, like, Middle-Earth and, like, they started, like, Star Troopers, like, i started marching across Middle-Earth with blazer laser guns. You know, that must have happened in the Star Wars, like, stories.
00:04:07
Speaker
At one point, the Galactic Empire had to go to a planet where their weaponry wasn't sophisticated, so they just had, like, sticks and bows. Well, I mean, that Return of the Jedi, but that was it was also after this.
00:04:19
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Yeah, again, and then is funny because kind of forget it, but in the first act, it just seemed like a classic medieval story where maybe one army invented plastic too soon. You know what I mean? Royal Garb had stormtrooper armor, but it was...
00:04:39
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smooth. That's what I love about the opening, like the opening act is it's very like they set up, it's very like medieval, it's all knights in armor, like horseback swords, and then this crazy like sci-fi army shows up with laser guns starts blasting everybody.
00:05:01
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like there but opening attack scene on the the wedding is just like insane.
00:05:09
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where it's just like, where everyone, like, it's just like people are getting blasted lasers and like explosions happening.
Plot Analysis: Kingdoms Unite and the Invaders' Motives
00:05:15
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and there Like the Slayers, which is like the the main army, villain army, and they're doing like that Dune, kind of like zero G, cro like flying at the wall stuff too.
00:05:25
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I was going to say, like that, that opening act kind of looks like an invasion from a different genre of a movie that has just been, just dropped in And i kind of want to see more of that in in things where it's like,
00:05:38
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you imagine watching ah like a horror movie where there's ghosts and then out of nowhere there's just, like I don't know, like a cyber demon or something shows up and you're like, wait, what? like I thought the ghost was the main problem. like No, it isn't. like This is now.
00:05:55
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Come on, ghosts. We've got to fight the cyber demon now. We've got to go into the internet.
00:06:00
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It's literally like that. this This movie seemed already that whatever kingdom they were going to fight must have been like a third humanoid kingdom that's in the land. And it's it's sort of like if we unite these two kingdoms, we could take on the third kingdom.
00:06:17
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yeah But the third kingdom is just some galactic being that like it totally doesn't make sense for them be there. You know, it's like...
The Beast and Prophecy Discussion
00:06:26
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they They flew their giant ah space castle through the through the universe, landed on the planet Krull, and now they they're basically taking it over with their superior weaponry.
00:06:37
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But it's not like they're harvesting anything. Yeah, i don't I don't think we have any idea what the hell they even want or why they're like conquering the planet. Yeah. That's also another part where, like, I thought during this movie, there's going to show a scene where they have, like, they're controlling a mine, or their they're, like, drinking water, you know?
00:06:59
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Or they're sucking the air, or or maybe... Yes, they need somethings like they need something from Krull. That's why they came here to, like... take it over. Yeah, maybe they're harvesting horses, because this planet has a shitload of them.
00:07:13
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um Maybe they're taking on the Cyclopses. I don't know, because like this there's just like there's so many like back pieces that you think they're going to resolve, and it doesn't get that.
00:07:26
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mean Maybe they're here for, like I'm not even kidding you, maybe they're here for like Magic Sand, because that's like a thing in this movie. Nope, they don't want that. Well, there's an ancient prophecy about like our two main characters, or like ah Lissa and Colwyn, which is like, they're gonna they they' they'll rule the Kroll king and queen, but then their son will rule the entire galaxy.
00:07:52
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But it has nothing to do with you know conquering the beast, which is like the the the emperor, basically. He's like the leader of the slayers. um It's not like they'll defeat him and bring peace to the galaxy or like there's some secret that they need to uncover it's like nope they'll get married and their kid will take over the galaxy oh but then this ancient evil showed up ah and threw like a wrench in the works so then they gotta deal with this ancient evil now who uh for all intents purposes who kidnaps like lissa for reasons he wants he wants to marry her for some for some reason
00:08:31
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I guess because like he showed this ancient evil shows up crashes his wedding. He honestly has like just like he didn't know that the wedding was happening. Right. It didn't seem like it doesn't seem like the the the beast has any magic.
00:08:52
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I mean, it kind of does, but it's like it's only designed for him. hmm. Like. So, it wasn't like he strategically needs them all there so he can kill, like, the um opposition.
00:09:06
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It was just like, oh, you're having a wedding? We're just gonna take the bride and leave. Oh, shit, we forgot to kill, like, one person. Yeah, we're gonna the princess, and also we just happen to be able to, like, kill the entire, you tire like a opposing army as well.
Highlighting the Chaotic Wedding Scene
00:09:21
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Because, like, it's like the combined forces of both kingdoms are there for this wedding and they get wiped out. Yeah, I mean, yeah wipe it gets wiped out by just, like, a handful of people.
00:09:32
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it wasn't seen It didn't seem like the full fortress force got, like, dropped. That fortress had so much people left by the third act, but like and and then in between, that it didn't make sense for them not to send all almost all of their men or so to this castle party.
00:09:56
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Unless they didn't think that the prince and, like, the... ah Caldwell and his family were going to be there. Mm-hmm. So it just seemed like... I wonder if they're, like, pursuing Calwin and his father, because they mentioned, like, on the way to, like, Lysa's kingdom, they lost, like, 300 men.
00:10:14
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Did they they? See what I mean? Like, it's a lot of, like, just tell you real quick, but then this movie is so dense that you forget certain parts. Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:24
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Huh. So they were being pursued during this wedding. Maybe. maybe that's the they say On the way there, they like lost 300 men. Because Colin's father is like so pissed off about it. He's like, we we had to come over here at this wedding and we lost 300 men on the way here. This better be worth it.
00:10:39
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Did they lose him to the swamp? What route did they take? There's like other creatures that we don't see that just like ate them. just This world sucks. That's why I'm like, wait a minute. is is like Because we only see just like maybe three or four territories of this whole planet.
00:10:59
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Yeah. And we and there's little this planet itself has so many wacky things going on. Where... like there's so there Their swords are laser like proof? Or the laser making? Because like every time they attack, they have like a laser, like a very crude lightsaber outline.
00:11:18
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i don't I don't know if like like the like native Kroll people have lasers. theyre No, they do. They do? Okay. Yeah, you if you go back and... Okay, well, at least whatever they whack against, it sometimes makes the laser out loud. Yeah, sparks or something. Maybe it's maybe there's like some sort of like weird shielding or like energy around like the slayers that that's sparking off something.
Practical Effects and 80s Style
00:11:42
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Maybe that's what it is. I know any time they get killed, like there's like a there's like a lot of red, and then then they like scream, and then a worm comes out of their head
00:11:52
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I mean, but we'll never know. ah But then, okay, so I did mention that the the space aliens sort of have, like, tech or some sort of, like, kinetic power, because then they can do, like, view screens of what's going on through, like, a camera, like ah a magic ball.
00:12:14
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Yes. Mm-hmm. But it can't, like, and then they have, like, the scene where, like, the the beast, like, remotely kills one of his, ah like, servants.
00:12:27
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Yeah.
00:12:30
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So that's i'm like, is that magic or is that just, like, technology? which And then the castle castle also teleports each day to a different location.
00:12:41
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that you can't predict, but you need, that's why I need magic to figure out where it's going to be like the next day. yeah and yeah And you, and you have like that that, you have like one day to get there before it moves again, and which is like the whole, kind of the whole challenge of the movie is like like, or the whole like drive of like the, first the middle part of the movie is like, we have to find where the, the dark fortress is going to be and get there.
00:13:03
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but the, like but could it is really simple where it's like, this planet it doesn't have radar? Like,
00:13:17
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I don't understand the advancement of this planet. Well, it's very, it's it yeah, it's a very medieval planet. It's very medieval, but then they have, ah like, they have magic because at at like, the wedding, there's, like, this whole ceremony where, like, ah they can like can pull fire out of the water and then, like, just hold fire and then, like, transfer to each other.
00:13:40
Speaker
It's like the power of love. So when you make an oath, you can you have fire powers.
00:13:47
Speaker
But I don't know if that's because of royalty or is that only for married people on this planet.
00:13:56
Speaker
Like when you're married, you get the firepower, but then when you're not married, you lose it. Yeah. Don't get divorced. It makes sense because like both the fathers don't have the wives, so they don't have firepower.
00:14:10
Speaker
And then it seems like the only married people who actually have like a bond through marriage is the Caldwin and Lyssa. Yeah.
00:14:22
Speaker
Who... I think i think we we're supposed to believe they've just made each other like that day for the first time. Yeah. Because it makes sense where maybe the two kingdoms are so far apart that the journey to, like, Caldwin's army to Lissa's army, they lost 300 men.
00:14:40
Speaker
Which, I don't know, sometimes the the the fight, the, like, skill level is is different. Because some people, like, get killed instantly and some people kind of, like, are fighting with sticks and then they make it it to the almost at the end the movie. Yeah.
00:14:55
Speaker
With no armor, mind you. Yeah. Because I forgot that by the end, it's like, wait, did didn't this universe establish that a lot of them have like fancy armor and like maybe metal armor? like it If you took certain scenes from Kroll by the end, third act, it looked like a bunch of time travelers got teleported to like a Doctor Who episode.
00:15:21
Speaker
Or like a Ren Faire broke out at like a sci-fi convention. Yeah, yep.
00:15:28
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It's like a bunch of pirates are fighting ah robots. Or like ah the David Lynch, like, leftover character, like, costumes from Dune.
00:15:41
Speaker
Yeah. Like, the Slayer's like Harkonnens, basically. They really are. I mean, their suits almost are like ah like, whatever they call them. like Still suits?
00:15:53
Speaker
Still suits. And... Their helmets aren't bad. Like, the design of that army isn't bad for the time. The only time it gets kind of out of hand is when they die and they scream or they're doing this, like, reverse shot, like, disappearance act that just looks terrible sometimes.
00:16:13
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There's a shot in this movie where i guess one of the the the slayers gets killed and he, like, reverse shoots back into the sand.
00:16:23
Speaker
It's like really early on in the swamp scene. Yeah, I think it's um like it seems their true nature is that they're like a weird bug creature. That's like like I don't think like they're controlling like the suit if it's like a bio-organic suit and that's just like and then the suit dies. on the Yeah, or something else or it's they're possessing like a dead body or something. it But yeah, whenever they get whenever they get quote unquote kill like a little like bug thing like springs of their head and like like runs away which I guess means like they're not actually dead they're but so maybe they could like somehow come back like just like get a new body and come back but then they need the suit because I think that's what keeps them maybe like sustained yeah they're aliens basically so it kind of makes sense why they need like explorer suits yeah they can't they can't live on like the Kroll's atmosphere
00:17:17
Speaker
Kind of makes sense, but we'll never know. it movie the movie doesn't tell you that. Maybe in the planned sequel or something. You know, there's a lot of...
The Iconic Glaive: Role and Marketing
00:17:28
Speaker
but Okay, so before we like get really into it, there's a lot of interesting concepts in this universe that I think if someone ever fleshed it out and made it a little more organized, it it could be like a fun story. Mm-hmm.
00:17:46
Speaker
um but Like if someone made like a prestige television version of it that's like eight episodes. Oh my god, yeah. They like Westworld this. Mm-hmm. When we break down the original Westworld to the TV show, it's like night and day.
00:18:00
Speaker
Yeah. Using the but like essentially like robots you can entertain. Like using park robots, right? Yeah, because the original Westworld is basically Terminator. Right, right. but and And basically like in like year 10 of that theme park.
00:18:15
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Meanwhile, in this story... and this proll story like you kind of want It's one of those things where like I thought Kroll was the glaive. Kroll is like the main character, or the Kroll is like the bad villain. or yeah it's like I always thought Kroll was either the glaive or the bad guy. And it turns out it's neither, it's the planet. And you're like, what?
00:18:41
Speaker
yeah So it just needs a clean up. They just said, hey, this is the world of Kroll, where it's sci-fi medieval fantasy. and maybe you let that flesh out a bit before you introduce just like galactic aliens, you know, just like, Hey, you already got used to the planet. Cause you, you, in this movie, you basically have 10 minutes to get used to the idea of this is an earth.
00:19:07
Speaker
And then this is a, um, like it's not even grounded in like willow, It's like another kind of like yeah fantasy movie that is just purely like sword and sorcery thing where they don't have to call it Earth, but you just get an idea of the land.
00:19:30
Speaker
They don't even do that because we have no concept of what's going on outside that like castle. And then we don't see anything besides magic. so Or costume design, which is great because like Like I said, it's practical sets, props, maybe a little shoddy editing, because it turns out that the, like, Lyssa actress, played by Lindsay... Lysette Anthony, yeah.
00:19:58
Speaker
Yeah, she's dubbed. Yeah, I think Robbie Coltrane's dubbed, too, which is weird, but... I think that's because they just want a different tone. This this is like a UK movie.
00:20:09
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Yes. i thought this was an American-made movie, but it turns out I think like the only American actor is just the
00:20:20
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Colin. Yeah. yeah he's just the I think he is like one of ah three actors who are just American, and then they put on that mid-Atlantic accent to sound like Errol Flynn in this.
00:20:36
Speaker
And they shot it at like Pinewood Studios in England, where they shoot 007 and Star Wars all that stuff. so It does look like... I guess with how they shot this, it was very technical like sound, and you could tell that at least the cinematography...
00:20:58
Speaker
it's on par with the error. It wasn't experimental because, I mean, it was only during that swamp sequence. Then it feels like a different director stepped in and then just did like FX shots to see if they could.
00:21:13
Speaker
And it's weird because that's what ages the movie more.
00:21:19
Speaker
Yeah, like and especially like i mean we'll get like when they're riding the firehorses later, like I got like huge Megaforce vibes from that. You remember Megaforce the end? where he's riding the hover cycle?
00:21:33
Speaker
yep Yeah. that's one i just it just Just stick with the horses then. like The beginning looks good because it's just like guys in in armor riding horses, and you're like, I get this world.
00:21:46
Speaker
That's cool. What are they doing? Going to a wedding? What?
00:21:51
Speaker
And then, ah yeah, just like... the The concepts are ahead of the time. And this is dressed up like story we've kind of seen parts of.
00:22:05
Speaker
so Well, yeah, it's classic. It's classic, you know it's classically like, fantasy, like, Little Rings fantasy. Like, yeah yeah they build, they like, Colin is, like, building up his like his fellowship. like he Like, every scene, they add a new person, basically.
00:22:19
Speaker
oh yeah. ah And then this movie was, like, I think some people thought this movie was for kids, because I saw this as a kid. This is not a kid's movie. Oh, there's some, some of the deaths are, like, horrific.
00:22:31
Speaker
I think I think Liza's father gets stabbed in the throat. and Oh, yeah. and
00:22:42
Speaker
And it's weird, because like now I think about it's like, this was PG? think Krull's rated PG. Yeah, well, because the P13 hadn't been invented yet. That was like a couple of more years.
00:22:53
Speaker
But they should update it now.
00:22:57
Speaker
i think it's the thing like where, yeah, it's like it's it's it's rate whatever rating it got. They don't re-rate stuff. That is bizarre. There's some movies that clearly should be like, rate that are like, oh, well, what it's not as bad, so it's PG.
00:23:12
Speaker
oh my god, this movie was made before Dune. Yeah. And some of the actors later on were in Dune.
00:23:21
Speaker
The widow enchantress lady, the spider lady.
00:23:26
Speaker
Yeah, is she like the, like, ah Reverend Mother? Yep. yeah
00:23:32
Speaker
What's also funny too, because like Liam Neeson, this is like one of his like earliest roles, he was in Excalibur, which like came out before this, which a lot of people were like pointing out like, oh, this is like Excalibur ripoff.
00:23:47
Speaker
Critics of the time were like kind basically saying, if they met mash up Excalibur or Star Wars...
00:23:59
Speaker
And i think i think and we to talk about like the ah the movie's like it's biggest selling point, or the thing that I think they thought was going to be the thing of this movie, which is the glaive.
00:24:13
Speaker
And it was not. Well, it's crazy you're watching it, like, how soon Kalwin gets the glaive. Because because it feel it feels like that should be, like, the like culmination right before, like, the final battle. It's like, i finally found the glaive. I have it now.
00:24:27
Speaker
But, like, he gets it within, like, the first, like, 30 minutes. And then his, like, his Obi-Wan, Ynir, who's, like, sorcerer, like, elderly sorcerer guy, like, oh, you got it. Don't use it, though. can only use it at the proper time.
00:24:45
Speaker
So he just, like, Kawa just, like, puts it in his, like like, belt, and it's, like, they never use until the end of the movie. I think you're skipping on the fact that ah this movie, like, the glaive is just sitting in lava.
00:25:01
Speaker
And there's no guardian, there's no like test of will, or um like you know prove your worth, or you're the chosen one from a prophecy.
00:25:13
Speaker
It just seemed like as long as you found it in this hole, you're good.
00:25:20
Speaker
yeah Yeah, it is yeah it' it's shockingly easy they get the glaive. You climb a mountain, and then yeah reach into like some magma, which I guess is magical magma, because it won't won burn you or as it doesn't burn the chosen one I guess maybe but then yeah you just reach in grab it you got it so but but yeah like if it's not like he read a riddle it's not like he he was like the lava's magic we don't even know that he it's no one no one talks for this portion yeah But this movie has a very classic trope where they start a conversation about the glaive or they start so a conversation about a subject and then they continue the subject.
00:26:01
Speaker
What feels like hours later because it's at a different location and then they keep talking about it. So I guess like they didn't talk about it for a while or it's not brought, you know, im like it's not a natural transition.
00:26:14
Speaker
Because the glaive is like the royal symbol of Kalwin's kingdom, I guess. He has a necklace that he gets on his father. Like, Ynir takes it from his father's like neck and gets to the Kalwin, like, you're the king now.
00:26:26
Speaker
and But it's a symbol of the glaive. And he's like, you have to go get the glaive. And Kalwin's like, that's just a legend. that It doesn't exist. He's like, yeah, it's it's real. Yeah, let me let me take you to there, but you gotta to go get it.
00:26:40
Speaker
Uh... Okay, but going back to that transition scene for sec. So, it's implied that basically, because, like, the Obi-Wan was like, we gotta get the glaive. And then Colwyn's like, the glaive's like a myth.
00:26:54
Speaker
And then it's like, okay, no, the glaive is real, but, like, they talk about it at the new location. So, and it's not, like, outside of the castle, right? It's not like they're picking up like in a natural thing.
00:27:07
Speaker
They literally talk about it as if they had continued that thought on a like a two hour journey of a mountain. And then they're like, anyway, the glade, we're here. Like, go get the glade. Like what?
00:27:18
Speaker
Yeah. You have to travel to the highest mountain Krull, I guess. And then there's a cave at the top of it where the glade is hidden. and
00:27:27
Speaker
But it definitely definitely feels like i should't there should have been Like, all the challenges of the movie should have been built. Like, each of them should have been a piece to, like, you the glaive. Like, you need to like collect, like...
00:27:38
Speaker
three amulets or something, or, like, you need to, approved prove that you prove yourself in these three challenges, then you're worthy of the glaive. That would have been the middle act, was not only was we need to find where the fortress will be and ah at a random time and location, we need to know, like, in order to, like, have a weapon strong enough to take on the be the beast, we need the glaive, because it's, like, our planet's powerful weapon.
00:28:09
Speaker
Which kind of makes sense why this planet's great for an alien force to show up and just conquer it, because if your best weapon is a... Is a weapon that you can just pick up in a mountain.
00:28:21
Speaker
ah A throwing star booberang with blades on it. I'm pretty sure glaives don't come back to you once you throw it. No. It operates on... He basically kindhen like basically uses like the force at the end when he's using it to control it.
00:28:36
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control it
00:28:39
Speaker
It doesn't even operate in Captain America logic, where you it it comes back like a boomerang. he He's just constantly holding it out, like spinning it
00:28:50
Speaker
I also saw the fact that like he picks it up and it seems like he almost like slices his hand open because the blades pop out. like it I'm sure he he didn't expect blades to pop out of it. but like the way He's never he's never like practice thrown it either.
00:29:04
Speaker
Yeah. I get like the Obi-Wan was like, hey, you'll know when you're ready to use it, but you should probably practice it so you know how to use it when it happens.
00:29:15
Speaker
it's it's too It's too overpowered and it will remove any drama from any fight scene, so you can't use it until the end. But even then, ah it's not like...
00:29:29
Speaker
It's not like the the mentor voice does the thing where it's like he remembers his mentor's words, or like he's like, oh, what should I do, you know, force ghosts?
00:29:41
Speaker
Use the glaive now, Colin. It is time. It doesn't even do that. It just seemed like Colin was just like, oh shit, I'm out of options. It's glaive time. Yeah. Yeah, it's also hilarious too because like when he decides to finally use it, he just uses it like an insane person. like He's just constantly using it.
00:29:58
Speaker
there's like there's like no There's no like particular like point of like, now is the perfect... You get one chance to use the glaive. He decides to start using it the end and is just throwing it around like a like a crazy person.
00:30:09
Speaker
He's using like a chainsaw to like open up the like the like chamber. like yeah Yeah, it's like a multi-tool. Yeah. And that's where like it gets kind of like, are you kidding me moment for us. Because you you do the thing, this movie does the thing where, you know, it's marketed very heavily, like we mentioned.
00:30:28
Speaker
um It's iconic to just this movie. It's not like another franchise was like, blades are fucking hot. We should use them. I think it's like, it feels like someone saw a ninja star and was like, how can we make this like European?
00:30:49
Speaker
Yeah, because I think that because the ninja craze is also happening around this time, too. Because, like enter Enter the Ninja was 81, so we were, like, in, like, prime ninja time. So, yeah, I'm sure they're probably, like, how can you make, like, a fantasy ninja weapon? Yeah.
00:31:03
Speaker
I, like, if you look up glaives, it's more like a pole weapon. Yeah. it's It's a big, like, halibut. um And then I don't know why they're just like, oh, man, let's call this a glaive so everyone gets confused when they look this up later.
00:31:18
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And then, um yeah, it just it's very, like... It's it's like... but like yeah They could... You you have a... it's Okay, if this was just purely a sword and sorcery movie where they don't introduce sci-fi, like deep sci-fi,
00:31:38
Speaker
They have with the glaive. Oh man, it's this unstoppable glaive. Once you unleash it, the power of magic in the glaive, you can decimate an army or something, or a squad of people like unarmed, because you can just throw it and then command it with your mind.
00:31:53
Speaker
but Like Yondu's arrow from Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah. That could have been glaive. It could have been a goddamn arrow for all we care. But because...
00:32:05
Speaker
it It sort of is a MacGuffin like weapon that it almost can do the same job as like a laser rifle, which is also featured in this movie. yeah It gets nullified.
00:32:22
Speaker
Because it's not like the enemy has a counterweapon or something on equal footing. It's not like the big the beast has his own glaive they have like a glaive battle.
00:32:35
Speaker
He doesn't heavy weapons, he just like has like his like magical powers. Yeah. that's unlike So then his thing is space magic, so I'm like, great. This is weird, because as long as you make him bleed through whatever means, like the glaive is just a secondary thing. That just happens to be like the legendary weapon, but it's on the same power level as a slingshot.
00:33:00
Speaker
Or not a slingshot, to admit ja make it more dramatic, we could say a bow and arrow to the monster's head.
00:33:10
Speaker
Yeah, because it seems like... mean, it doesn't seem like there's anything particularly about the glaive that... It seems like anything could stab the beast if you get close enough. You could just stab him with the swords. I don't know. It makes the glaive even more... Just use all the time. not special.
00:33:28
Speaker
I mean, the effects might have been like a costly thing, but they could have just done the thing where... i mean, take a cue from Ninja movies where you just pretend to throw the glaive, and then whatever you're trying to hit, just have it stuck in the thing.
00:33:43
Speaker
And then you save you save your production time to have to show like it flying through the air whatever.
00:33:51
Speaker
Or just be like, make a rubber glaive and throw it around. Yeah, they made they made like they made, like, one glaive. It's like, we can't throw it. we can't do anything. We break it. with with It's done.
00:34:05
Speaker
This is the whole movie. Our whole budget went into making, like, ah ah like a four-carat gold-plated glaive with, like, jewels and stuff. You know, it's like, wow, the Russian team went hard on, like, fabricating this thing. It's like, oh, yeah, no, this is, um, this is actually, like, priceless now.
00:34:24
Speaker
Yeah, it's like it's like the crown jewels.
00:34:28
Speaker
So, it just seemed crazy to not use the glaive more. I get it in Star Wars, like, Luke only uses lightsaber none in the first movie.
00:34:41
Speaker
but the But the equivalent of that would be, like, if Obi-Wan gave Luke lightsaber the beginning, and and then, like, it's like, this is the most powerful weapon in the galaxy, you can't use it, though, until the proper time. then like And the movie, like, Luke is just, like, killing, like, hundreds of sword troopers with a lightsaber.
00:34:53
Speaker
I mean, that would have been cool. The more I think about it, because nowadays in a modern Star Wars thing, like, as soon as, like, episodes... Like, after episode four, like, lightsabers in every goddamn movie doing things.
00:35:08
Speaker
Mm-hmm. But in three... I mean, four... um Yeah, I think like it's just Obi-Wan and then Luke just practicing. And then you never see it from the final. It's not like Luke opens up his X-Wing and just drops it on the Death Star.
00:35:22
Speaker
yeah Open turns it on and then throws it at the core of the Death Star. That would have been as equivalent to what was happening in this movie. But like the glaive doesn't kill, really, the beast.
00:35:38
Speaker
It just sort of like injures him. Yeah. but So it's not even, like, the ultimate weapon that the movie, like, promised it would would be.
00:35:47
Speaker
is kind of weird. But it's, like, their whole that's their whole, like, marketing and, like, the logo. Everything is the glaive. I thought that was the Krull, too. Yeah.
00:36:00
Speaker
And then, um, yeah, it it just, it's... It has like so much potential. and and like After seeing so many movies and examples, you just wish they went they knew how to control that better.
00:36:16
Speaker
um But they wanted a more Arthurian tale. It's kind of like Excalibur. Once you pull Excalibur, it kind of just becomes a regular sword for a while. yeah like in the In the Arthurian legends.
00:36:28
Speaker
it's just not It's not like he had a feel like lasers. It's not like um he wielded and it like cut down like um like a fire wall or something. like It has some sort of cool-ass D&D spell The glaive is cool because you kind of need to find it through like a mountain.
00:36:52
Speaker
But then once it's like, oh, no, we only use it for like, you know, like overwhelming odds because it's like unfair if we don't use it. Like if we use it during like regular encounters. Yeah. Like, is there rules with it? Like.
00:37:05
Speaker
No, it's just like, yeah, it is like you can only use it the proper time. Don't ask more questions. Yeah. But it's like, when is the proper time?
00:37:16
Speaker
like, you'll know. It's like, was it the swamp? Was it during the time? Swamp, like, one of our members got killed by slayers. The glaive probably could have killed them all without anyone dying.
00:37:27
Speaker
Oh my god, it would have solved a lot of problems. you Did you not use it during the time he almost got the when that, like, temptress changeling showed up?
00:37:38
Speaker
You could have killed it, and you didn't have to tell everyone that you used the glaive.
00:37:44
Speaker
but if i You probably could use the glaive as a handheld weapon, too. Just, like, slash with it. It's got five <unk>s got five knives on it. you yeah yeah You only need, like, two parts. Like, just to hold it, and then just, like, the pointy end.
00:37:56
Speaker
Yeah, you could have used it to do a bunch of things. They should have had it broken up into, like, two or three pieces, and that and that's he has to find the pieces throughout the whole thing, and then you combine them at the end, and it's just like, THE GLAVE!
00:38:11
Speaker
Actually, that's not bad. like it He kind of only uses the one thing or whatever like as like close quarters weapons, but then it's like, oh no, in order to get like the true potential, you need to find the other parts, and then he assembles it into the ultimate weapon, which is now you can throw this weapon.
00:38:28
Speaker
Or it's like, as stupid as this is going to sound, the glaive could have been a top weapon. you spin it and then you throw the top or something it's a beyblade it's essentially beyblade yeah uh but it's dumb because like nowadays if you hit reuse the clave and you kind of do like oh you basically just made like a beyblade weapon and i kind of want to see that just like this ultimate thing where it's like
00:39:01
Speaker
I've assembled this weapon that like once it's like spun, it's hard to stop. It can wipe out whatever it bumps into.
00:39:12
Speaker
But... Yeah, just just because... like As a weapon person, you know as like action moviegoers like us... When we see like impractical weapons, it's like it looks cool, but it needs like function at least. Or if it's functional, like make it look cool.
00:39:26
Speaker
This is like... It looks okay... It's very not functional.
00:39:34
Speaker
And then the last thing um about the Glaive is, I think I didn't think about Glaives until um there was a game that came out, and one of the one of the weaponry in the game was like like um definitely inspired by this Glaive.
00:39:49
Speaker
Well, the one recently, it was probably like Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon, because you get the Kill Star, which is basically the Glaive at the end. That is recent, too. That's like from 10 years ago.
00:40:01
Speaker
I was thinking of, um, it came from the developers who made Warframe. Yeah. Dark Sector. Dark Sector. Yeah. It's funny because Dark Sector is like, that's the same engine that Warframe is built on.
00:40:16
Speaker
I like Dark Sector. It was, it was interesting. Um, but yeah, I think it was like, I think there is, i think there is a glaive in Warframe too. i think like, I don't, I'm not sure if Dark Sector and, in and Warframe are in the same universe, but, um,
00:40:30
Speaker
it's the same development team, so who knows? But, yeah, like, they like glaives. I think they they even state it in one of their, like, things, like, uh, obviously the glaive is inspired by Kroll, cause, or, like, whatever throwing star that they have, cause it's, like, I think that weapon is not a, called a glaive, right? Like, like, I think the, I think i mentioned earlier where, like, glaives are really more classed as haliburts, but,
00:41:01
Speaker
That weapon is closer to...
00:41:07
Speaker
think, like... It's like It's kind of like a dagger, right? It's classified as, like, daggers. Or a type of sword that he has.
00:41:21
Speaker
Very practical. It's all, like, decorative you see them. No one in recorded history uses that in, like, real warfare after, like... I don't know, like, the, like, 10th century.
00:41:32
Speaker
When you have, like, a full broadsword. oh yeah. ah like i Or, like, a yeah like ah ah polar armor. Like, an actual, like, useful weapon. and think, like, as soon as as soon as, like, you take on... Because it's not, like, a multiple, like, attack weapon.
00:41:48
Speaker
It's a weapon that, basically, you you toss in, like, a battle. And then you're like, well, maybe I find it, maybe I won't. But, like, as soon as you toss it, you have to go to, like, a different weapon. That can't be your only weapon.
00:42:01
Speaker
um But it's funny because that's what happens to a bunch of these characters. Everyone who is part of the highwaymen that Cowan encounters, ah they only specialize in one type of weaponry.
00:42:16
Speaker
Yeah. Like, there's Robbie Coltrane, who was just known, one who just has, like, his axes, I think? Mm-hmm. And then there's, um like, these two whip guys, where they're only weapons. Oh my god, yeah.
00:42:30
Speaker
Yep. Mm-hmm. and I think, forgot about Liam Neeson's power like is, like, his weapon. Does he just use, like, a, they just use, like, a sword, right? guess. And then, like, Torquil, like, the leader, he has, like, a, kind of like a,
00:42:43
Speaker
axe. It kind of reminds me of the axe that Nicolas Cage makes in Mandy. Yeah, yeah. But it's like battle axe. Or it's a halibut?
00:42:56
Speaker
and Wait, did it have a edge double-sided edge? If it doesn't, then it's a halibut.
00:43:06
Speaker
I think he had it kind of had like an axe head on the top of it, and then it was but it was all all like one solid piece.
00:43:13
Speaker
So i think I think it might be kind of like a Halbert. Because Halbert has like a spear and an axe comes together. But I think if it's just a straight axe axe, then it's just a battle axe.
00:43:27
Speaker
But either way, that's practical, because they're like peasant level warriors. they They don't have armor, they they don't look like they have homes. Well, apparently Liam Neeson just like travels around and just like marries people because he has like several wives in different villages.
00:43:47
Speaker
He's like, oh, is it it's like one your wives lives here, right? He's like, oh, yeah, let's go get some food.
00:43:56
Speaker
But yeah, this this whole fellow the whole fellowship is is like, yeah, it's these band of thieves. There's Ergo with the Magnificent, who is a magician who can only turn himself into different animals.
00:44:09
Speaker
Not anyone else. Himself. um Himself, yes. He's like very cocky about it. Who is like, like obviously, he's the east the east kind of relief of the movie.
00:44:20
Speaker
um because david david batley is like a ah they like a pretty like famous like british uh comedian was willy wonka in the chocolate factory that's that's the only other place i i know him from that and this that's the only two movies i know him from yeah i'm just like wait a minute yeah then it's funny to think that like he looks younger in this than he does in willy wonka in the chocolate factory which was like like like but like in the 70s
00:44:49
Speaker
This is like a crazy cast, just because it's got um a lot of like people in the 70s and 80s, and then like people later on who then explode in ah like just fame.
00:45:09
Speaker
Yeah, it is it's... Yeah, like, Leonidas and Darby Coltrane, obviously, are probably like the two biggest names in this movie, but they were, like, like the smallest people, like, but just starting out with this when they were casting this.
00:45:20
Speaker
So they're, like, barely, they're, like, in, like, 10th build or whatever they are.
00:45:27
Speaker
And then Ken Marshall, like the like, is kind of, like, he's retired now, but he kind of, like, went into, like, ah TV stuff. Like, he was in, like, D-States 9 for a while.
00:45:37
Speaker
Yeah. I just feel like this this movie didn't really help him.
00:45:43
Speaker
Yeah, I think this is like like this is like his only big like lead role in a movie. And he isn't bad in it. No, I got like... Did you get like Bobo Patrick Swayze vibe from him?
00:45:56
Speaker
Kinda, yeah. When he does like romance like scenes or trying to do that like, like hey guys, thanks for like joining me in this thing. We have to do this for the good greater good.
00:46:08
Speaker
and just like well just Just like his look too. like like He's got like the you know the feathered hair and like the scrt the beard. guy kind of is He's got a Swayze look. Swayze look, but that's just like the 80s, though.
00:46:21
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, you could have been like, this also would have been like the like prototype Mel Gibson look, too.
00:46:28
Speaker
It's just that he doesn't have like, he doesn't have a distinct accent. You know, like if you had like a southern drawl or if you had a Texan thing going on or maybe even a, um,
00:46:44
Speaker
base as and space accent accents you don't even get that but like it's weird because the default accent for every medieval sword and sorcery thing and thing is it's like british yep like uk um even french sometimes even though like it's weird because now you mentioned that um what it like Ergo the Magnificent.
00:47:11
Speaker
He has like a Cockney like accent. So like where he must have come, it must have been like a slangy village. Because compared to like the the castle, he's the one who has that accent.
00:47:26
Speaker
I think they say he's like a hill person or something. See?
00:47:31
Speaker
So they're just like whatever territory of like South UK he's from, they're just like, oh, those are hill people accents.
00:47:41
Speaker
Oh, we gotta also mention, uh, Rael the Cyclops. Which I think is probably, besides the glaive, I think is probably the most famous thing for this movie. Just like, the but the the way, like, the Cyclops looks.
00:47:53
Speaker
Which I think they used, I think they used the same mold, or like, they copied the same look for, uh, Your Majesty. Or Your your Highness. Like, the Danny McBride movie. Oh, really?
00:48:05
Speaker
Like, I think it was specifically like, the Kroll Cyclops that they used that movie. I liked Your Majesty. Oh no, Your Highness.
00:48:17
Speaker
But yeah, Rel is great. um I like he and ah Ergo's like they're like the like their friendship arc where like Ergo's just like like, oh, this ugly monster at the beginning. By the end, they're like friends.
00:48:31
Speaker
And then his whole thing about Cyclops, the legend of the Cyclops, is that they they sold their ah like they sold their their second eye to the beast to be able to see the future, but the beast like betrayed them and they can only see their death.
00:48:45
Speaker
That's the future they can see.
00:48:49
Speaker
So the one eye sees death all the time? they they they're born they're They're born knowing when they're going to die exactly. that's kind of like their like their whole like life. It's like, I know when I'm going to and how.
00:49:02
Speaker
But it's weird because, like, Rel, like, he helps he helps them ah capture, like, the fire mares after they find out where the Black Fortress is.
00:49:13
Speaker
Then he's like, well, this is where I'm supposed to die See ya. But then he kind they shows up afterwards like, oh, I guess I wasn't going to die there. um I'm here now to help you guys again.
00:49:26
Speaker
But then it's like, psych, I guess it was um I was only like maybe 10 miles difference between this top and then this. Yeah, well I was a couple yeah it was couple a couple of hours off of like when i was when i was actually going to die. And my death was like insanely more horrific than I thought it was going to be.
00:49:45
Speaker
oh my god, yeah
00:49:49
Speaker
yeah. I guess before we get to that, we should probably talk about like you like the scene with like like like the the crystal spider. Which is a totally different part of the movie. Because that has nothing to do with the beast whatsoever.
00:50:03
Speaker
Well, there's a whole thing, like, they go and see, like, there's a blind seer, the emerald seer, but who tries to get them the location of the Black Fortress, and he's like, the beast like breaks his crystal ball remotely.
00:50:15
Speaker
then the seer's like, we have to go into this swamp where the beast can't use his powers. And then we'll like find this, like like a shrine or something, Emerald Shrine. And I'll be able to like find the but location there.
00:50:28
Speaker
But then he gets turned to a chain, like he gets killed and a changeling takes his place, tries to kill Kalwin. And they they kill him. which That's ah also another like horrific, crazy death where it's deteriorating into the ground and it's rotting.
00:50:46
Speaker
You just see his skeleton start coming out and everything. That was cool. But that was perfected after there's a scene where like one of the Slayers does similar kind of effect, but just does not look as good.
00:50:59
Speaker
Yeah. but i otherwise I wonder if it's just because they they were using a human yeah humanoid thing, so they could like make it like... They know what a skeleton looks like everything, so they could really play up like the like rotting skin and all that stuff.
00:51:15
Speaker
Because the other thing is just like ah a weird bug monster. And then they're in that swamp for like... I mean...
00:51:29
Speaker
a third of the movie. it's It's like a ah huge chunk of the movie in that swamp.
00:51:35
Speaker
Where it's just like various adventures happen where like quicksand, there's a slayer attack, there's a changeling, and they finally get out of it. um After Ynir go, because so they lost to see her, so then Ynir has to go like, well, I know one other person who might be able to find and the Black Fortress, but I gotta go see her alone.
00:51:56
Speaker
And it's it's the the widow of the webs who lives in a giant spider web. but
00:52:05
Speaker
So, this is where I say it's like a different movie, just because...
00:52:11
Speaker
This does have like a Star Wars thing where there's something way more of a backstory about what's going on with the world before the Beast. Even though the Beast has been there enough to like mess up the Cyclops, so I don't understand like how long the Beast has been here for.
00:52:28
Speaker
Well, it's weird because they say like the Cyclops came from another planet. that encountered the beast. So that they're like ancient enemies. But then Rel just happened to be on Krull somehow? So the Cyclops can also travel between planets, I guess?
00:52:42
Speaker
So they have space travel somehow? its Yeah, they have space travel or teleport or something.
00:52:50
Speaker
Because Ynir is telling the legend of the Cyclops, and it's like that was like a different planet that the beast traveled to before.
00:52:58
Speaker
Oh. I think. Maybe. i don't know. At this point, I'm just trying to remember a movie I just seen today. Yeah. um Okay.
00:53:11
Speaker
but the But the Widow of the Web is Ynir's... They used to be ah married, and then the Widow killed their son, and so Ynir's disowned her, like're like, we're done.
00:53:24
Speaker
But then you he kind of forgives her at this point. At this point.
00:53:31
Speaker
and then We don't know why she killed her child, right? It's just like, oh, I killed him. like Oh, okay, yeah. That's sad. but sting like But it's weird because like she's the wind of the web, but she's not a spider. She's not a spider creature. She's not like Shelob or anything. There happens to be a spider that hangs out near her.
00:53:54
Speaker
Well, I think the rule is that wherever you live, you just become that title of You know, like, so you live in this swamp, so it's not like you're the widow of the swamp, I guess. Yeah. It's not like the spider lady, because then there is a lure of the ring spider that's cocooning this thing. And eating people that try to go. who um Who's even trying to go visit the window of the web?
00:54:20
Speaker
i think i think other people are trying to just because they seek her out or they hear the legend. Yeah, they think she can, like, use her magical powers for them or something, maybe. Maybe, because I guess in this world, like, ah magic future people are hard to come by, because it seemed like the seer kept him to himself, and I think he was getting an apprentice to train, so, like, so there could be more magic people, but I don't know if magic is just, like, taught, or you need to be born to it.
00:54:52
Speaker
No idea. Wait, before we get too further, ah do you subscribe to the philosophy that like you have to be born magical or that you can learn magic, like arcane magic? I think well i think I prefer like that you can learn it.
00:55:08
Speaker
Because then it's like you can... It's like you know it's it's ever and anyone can do it. Yeah, and then that kind of explains why it's like, okay, it's a hard thing to do, but you just got to keep practicing.
00:55:23
Speaker
Because then that makes sense where it's like... You can just pick someone and you look like you have the ah will to spend hours studying ancient texts and then like
00:55:37
Speaker
practicing until you perfect it. Because if not, like maybe the magic explodes. Because if you see Ergo, Magnificent, but he's a magician. And in rankings, magicians are like low-level wizards.
00:55:50
Speaker
And it makes sense why... like he only knows spells that basically work on him, and they're all like mostly useless. Yeah, I think he turns himself a ah goose, like a puppy, a pig, but then he eventually, like like guess he if he has like the one useful one, he turns himself into like a tiger. Yeah, but like nothing's weak against tigers, he just turns into a tiger.
00:56:20
Speaker
And yeah, you see, it's like, is that a laser-proof tiger? You still get shot by a laser.
00:56:27
Speaker
like, oh no, that's the beast's one weakness was a lion's bite. Oh god, a tiger! Which but also, it doesn't make sense that all these like Earth creatures exist on Krull.
00:56:43
Speaker
He just has either knowledge Earth, either like knowledge of earth or those animals exist on Krull somewhere. we just don't see them ever. It's like when he turns into them.
00:56:56
Speaker
Got me.
00:57:01
Speaker
Like, you should transform, like, like space creatures. Like, like weird, like, Krull space creatures. But that's, like, costly to try to figure out.
00:57:13
Speaker
But I can definitely see them go, like, okay, what animals do we have at the Pinewood studio?
00:57:21
Speaker
Do you think they actually had like that that like but little kid who played Titch stand next to a tiger?
00:57:27
Speaker
the right money? Probably. That seems like crazy... like Even if it's like a trained tiger, that seems like insanely dangerous. mean, it's worth it for fame.
00:57:44
Speaker
But anyway, yeah but back to respect to the with the web. So like... ah Yeah, there's this whole there's this whole like super dramatic scene where they yeah you know they're like they're like reminiscing about their like relationship, but then they forgive each other.
00:57:56
Speaker
and then the widow gives Yenir the sand. She has an hourglass that can like keep the spider at bay as long as like the sands are going. But then she breaks it and gives him the sand.
00:58:08
Speaker
And he has, as long as the sand is in his hand, to live. But then he also like gets the location of like the Black Fortress. Well, she tells him. Yeah, she can say, it's going to be like here tomorrow morning, you have to get there, it's going to move again.
00:58:26
Speaker
and But you also you also have, like, the sand's running out, like, if the sand runs out, then you're dead.
00:58:34
Speaker
you though we still don't understand how, I guess,
00:58:41
Speaker
ah like the, like, rules would be, where if it's, uh, If you hold the sand, could he have put it in a bottle? Could he have like just asked to take the sand glass with him?
00:58:57
Speaker
Yeah. You had to hold it in your hand? and that's your And it wasn't like he was... He wasn't dying, right? like As soon as he held it, it was like, now it's killing me.
00:59:10
Speaker
that's That's your life force, though. that's thats like Your life is the sand, though. I get it. It's very sacrificial, but it didn't quite make sense where she needed to break the glass in order to see the future, maybe.
00:59:24
Speaker
Like, right? But then they had to be like, the pack was the sacrifice. The price was we both had to risk our life. Yeah, because I think she says, I give my life to list the other the younger Lissa, because they have the same name. Well, she gives her life because, like, now the spider's going to try to kill her.
00:59:41
Speaker
Yeah. So I get that. But don't get Yarby's, like... Yaneer, yeah. Yaneer's, like, cost. Because he's just like, oh, shit, what? Like, I would have been like, wait, whoa, whoa, like...
00:59:57
Speaker
And then, yeah, he has to climb this, like, narrow web, but one-handed now, because he can't, he can't like like, spare any sand or like before he, like, gets back to Kalman and tells him where the the the fortress is.
01:00:09
Speaker
he has to, like, awkwardly climb this spider web now with, like, one hand with, like, sand dripping out of it. And then a grain of sand that, like, drops is, like, making weaker and weaker.
01:00:20
Speaker
i'd be a little mad, because it's, like, there there has to be, like, a modern telling of this, where any kind of, ah like like the person would comment, like, oh, you could told this like as soon as I like got on the web or something, so I got like a head start. because You can't just do that and just be like, what? and I gotta one-hand this? Or...
01:00:42
Speaker
Well, she also just so turns the hourglass over um right when he's like at the beginning of the web, and it takes him so long to climb over there. yeah like He barely gets back into like her like inner chamber before like the like spider like is like going to attack him again, because the spider only waits until the sand runs out, and and it's game on.
01:01:03
Speaker
So i'm I'm assuming the but hourglass, she has to keep doing that so the spider stays away. he's away
01:01:13
Speaker
it's's it's so weird so weird that she's the widow of the web and she doesn't control the spider the spider's just like i'll let you live here as long as the sands go have like this weird tangible agreement yeah
01:01:29
Speaker
i feel like yeah i feel like it would have made a little more sense if she because of like how horrific the crime she made of like killing her own child if she got turned into a spider what monster or something That's close to, like, Lord of the Rings.
01:01:40
Speaker
Yeah. but then But then he, like, forgives her and she turns back into, like, you know like the version that we see in the movie where it's, like, her beautiful young self. Which I get
01:01:55
Speaker
get. But yeah, sometimes he somehow manages to get get out, like, with little bit sand left. He's able to tell everyone, like, where the fortress is going to be, but he dies. And then that's when they get the fire bears, which can like travel a league in a day. they can travel thousands of miles in a day.
01:02:14
Speaker
to whatever part of the planet that the fortress can be in. Because that's just like a bonus that they found cool hovercrafts, but... yeah could yeah honestly Honestly, the fortress could have just been something. It was like an extra step just to find the Enchantress, because it's not like where the fortress was was any strategic um value.
01:02:37
Speaker
Or it's not like it was, again, harvesting resources. It wasn't trying to like to strengthen the fortress. It was just moving just to move. Yeah, just randomly just randomly travels around the planet...
01:02:53
Speaker
i mean just say I think they said it could appear in the middle of the ocean and or something. or like just like on a mountain, in the desert, in the ocean. Okay, but like that could have happened too. like They could have appeared in the mount like and in the ocean and then they're like, oh, great.
01:03:09
Speaker
Do we know another seer or another enchantress somewhere that would tell us where it's going to be like tomorrow? Yeah. Well, if you still the fire horses, they could like fly there, I guess, because of the horses those horses could fly. That's true.
01:03:23
Speaker
we also mean I love the movie so ah want to go into that. like This movie had two script doctors fixing it. Because apparently the first draft was just very plot-hole-y.
01:03:36
Speaker
And then someone came in was like, alright, let's try to patchwork this. And like, this is something they like included. It's like, if you look at Wikipedia, it's like another person came in and tried to like fix this. So imagine they were like, okay, how do we extend this? Or how do we, I bet you there was another like thing that they had to cut in order to make this flow better.
01:03:58
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Mm-hmm.
01:04:02
Speaker
Which is weird because there's a lot, like, I feel like, I think we were talking about there's, like, definitely could have been some, like, cuts to, like, edit it, like, to edit it bit more. Like, i feel like there's definitely scenes that linger on way too long. Which is like, alright, we get it. Cut you cut here now.
01:04:17
Speaker
Like, it just it like just stays on a shot for, like, a couple extra seconds. Yeah. It's just like establishing shots, but like, I think at certain points are like, this movie should be like two hours. So might as well leave this in in order to make like a two hour long runtime.
01:04:36
Speaker
Or we like we like a bunch of scenes where like Lissa's just like wandering around like the insane interior of the Black Fortress. Like her labyrinth journey that she's in. Mm-hmm. It's funny to think, I think this is before Labyrinth?
01:04:50
Speaker
it did It is, yeah. And it has scenes that Labyrinth did rip off, where it's like this young girl trapped in a maze with this creature that definitely wants her.
01:05:01
Speaker
and yeah it And it's all just like crazy. like it's it's ah It's almost like organic inside. and like it's it's It's almost like a balcony. It's like the beast's like mouth. It's just like claws or teeth or something.
01:05:14
Speaker
So is the fortress organic? it kind of feels It kind of seems like it feels like it's it feels like it's like all it's the beast or something. beast is the fortress.
01:05:25
Speaker
Because it's like there's like a she's in a room where it's like it's like it looks like an eye and there's like a like a balcony or like a room. It's just like crazy like teeth or like claws coming off of it.
01:05:36
Speaker
It looks like it's it's like his hand or his mouth or something.
01:05:42
Speaker
it's I mean, I don't mind that. That's very sci-fi. it's It's visually like but's it's like nothing else in the movie. it's like it's like That's like a visually distinctive part of the movie. is like the The Black Forge is just like the crazy surreal imagery of it.
01:05:56
Speaker
Yeah. Which, again, not bad.
01:06:04
Speaker
And it gets even crazier when it's like the final battle is happening in there. It's just like you see like all the traps that are happening and what else it can do. Like floors can just open up and drop you into like pits.
01:06:16
Speaker
And it can like shift around.
01:06:23
Speaker
and it And then which which leads to like some of them like but think we really he did up like some of the most horrific deaths in the movie. it like the final battle it's It's just a saw trap every other scene. but Like, rels Rel's death, where he gets crushed by a door, is horrifying.
01:06:40
Speaker
Especially because, like, he's, like, the most likable, like, lovable character. Like, he's so, like, like honorable and, like, like it is like just like wants to help everyone. And then he just, like, gets crushed by a door.
01:06:53
Speaker
and it's, like, you see, you like, his, like, face and, like, his arm just, like, ah collapsing. He's like, hey guys, oh oh god. This is my death. I misread my death.
01:07:05
Speaker
i thought I was gonna lie down in like a horse pasture or die. now I'm crushed by a door.
01:07:13
Speaker
and then like, i think, Rory Coltrane and Lee needs to just like get like blasted by lasers and they die.
01:07:21
Speaker
and then yeah. And then they have like ah like a goodbye speech. Yep.
01:07:28
Speaker
Well, not with a big speech, but it's like, hey, it's been an honor to like do this adventure with you guys. My traveling days are over.
01:07:37
Speaker
i to My watch is over. yeah
01:07:41
Speaker
I need to move on to like whatever Liam Neeson was doing in like the 80s.
01:07:50
Speaker
Rob Roy?
01:07:52
Speaker
that 1992? Oh, I think he he was his next movie after this was like The Bounty. The Union of the Bounty ah movie. With Mel Gibson.
01:08:04
Speaker
oh And Anthony Hopkins.
01:08:07
Speaker
Wow. Mel Gibson, Anthony Hopkins, Liam Neeson, and Daniel Day-Lewis were in that movie. And Laurence Olivier. Talk about a freaking all-star cast.
01:08:17
Speaker
Was that movie one of those cram as many actors as possible that was a yes? Or was that like a... Let's go for an award.
01:08:30
Speaker
I think it was... I don't know i don't know if they got like a lot of awards but nominations, but it got like critical acclaim. Okay. I haven't seen that. I've heard about it, but it's like I've never had the urge to watch The Bounty.
01:08:44
Speaker
Um...
01:08:47
Speaker
um And then, oh, there's the... I'm going to go to, like, the horrific deaths. It's... I don't know which, like, which ah thief it is, but, like, there's one of the... Like, Torkil, and then, the ah like, the young kid, then another guy end up in, like, a spike pit, like a classic, like, Indiana Jones-style, like, the spikes are closing in on you, Pit.
01:09:09
Speaker
And then he like, the guy, the one guy guy, like, goes for, like, his knife that he dropped, and he's he's, like, stabbed to the chest, like, multiple stabs to, like, his head and, like, his chest and stuff. Oh my, and they linger on that shot.
01:09:20
Speaker
Yeah. like since there It's not played by anyone world-renowned, but it's sort of like they really stare at his face. Yeah, as the spikes just like slowly like drive themselves into him. It's not like a quick like snap, stab. It's like slowly, like as as slow as possible, just drag this out like your death, make it as horrific as possible.
01:09:47
Speaker
But ah yeah all those all the sacrifices are worth it because Colin gets to where Alyssa is. And then, we as we mentioned, like he uses the glaive as like a chainsaw or like a multi-tooled brick into like this chamber she's being held in Which, man, it takes forever for the glaives to break into that chamber. He's just spit... It's like he's carving hole in a blowtorch. He's carving hole in the like a blow torquech she's kind like like carve like the whole hole in like the chamber But then it's like I think it just explodes. It cuts a hole in it.
01:10:21
Speaker
And then ah it's like the final battle with the Beast. Which, i don't think we mentioned but the Beast is like a ah an actual just like giant monster. like He's he's like ah he's like ah huge like monster man.
01:10:37
Speaker
ah you see You see it like once when the he offers Lysa the like marriage. He's like, marry me, and I'll call off my army. So it's not like super surprise that he's monster man. But i mean, at this point in the movie, you're pretty much like all all in for just like whatever the movie is going to throw at you now.
01:10:55
Speaker
Yeah. He's also the poster, like the face, of like there's like, like, like the beast is like the main, like the face of the poster is like, it's like him. He's like the biggest, like ah part of the poster. Yeah. He's in the background.
01:11:11
Speaker
And then, and then, yeah, and then Colin, he's actually, he finally uses the glaive, like hes he kills a bunch of like slayers, and he's, they just disintegrate when they hit him with the glaive, it's not even that they get stabbed, it's just like, the glaive is so powerful, it just like disintegrates them.
01:11:26
Speaker
it's like, again, like, why didn't you use that earlier? like, take out some slayers.
01:11:35
Speaker
And then he, he like, he manages to stab the beast in the like the chest of the glaive and he goes down. But then... It's it's kind of funny because, like, Cullen's trying to get like he sounded like force pull it back to him.
01:11:48
Speaker
It's kind kind of it's like that, like, it's like the Holy Grail from Indiana Jones where he's like, I and need to get the glaive back. I need it.
01:11:56
Speaker
I guess it's like it's so cool that he can wield it, and it's like he needs to maintain it, because it's like the legacy. this like you know like I guess like they build like a religion over over hit this weapon.
01:12:09
Speaker
Yeah. but's like and like it At that point, he thinks to like he thinks like the beast is dead. he's got He rescued Lissa. They're going to get out. and But he's like, I gotta get the glaive. I need it. gotta pull it out of his chest. And then he like goes in to the room where the beast fell down and is like trying to manually take it out and then the beast is like haha not dead yet psych
01:12:34
Speaker
which it was like um I mean they don't know that the job is done either because they have to like escape but then once like the once like <unk> like the beast having a self detonation thing in his like yeah yeah it's alright, we need like a Death Star escape.
01:12:57
Speaker
Just because. It can't make sense if, like you were saying, like if like the Black Fortress is like part of him. Like, it's all, like, the beast is like like, it's all part of his, like, whatever like body or his energy or whatever. Like, if he he dies, like, the Black Fortress collapses.
01:13:18
Speaker
But but he's he's killed by not the Glaive, but, like, the the fire magic that we saw at the beginning of the movie, where, during the wedding, where, like, Lissa is able to, like, she gives Calvin, like, fire from water, and like, and then, like, he he's he basically like is able to, like, turn his hand to a flamethrower and, like, burns the beast to to death.
01:13:37
Speaker
They could have just done that in the beginning, but then they just went, alright, well, the glaive doesn't work, i don't have any, like, long-range weapons, time to use the power of love. Yeah, that that also would have been like extremely useful if that had been a thing to the whole movie. also like burn i can like launch flames on my hands.
01:13:54
Speaker
But I think that only happens when you have your partner near you. cause Yeah, because she can manifest it and give it to him, and then he can like wield it to like as a flamethrower.
01:14:10
Speaker
Which is it is, it is crazy that just, like, the beast like, he just goes down by, like, burning him. It's like, is's it's kind of like like oh a lackluster, just like, that's his weakness, fire?
01:14:21
Speaker
they should have been, like, staring at his hand, like, huh.
01:14:26
Speaker
Like, he's basically, he's basically like Satan. Like, he should just be, like, immune to fire.
01:14:31
Speaker
Well, it's weird because you figure like you're from space. Like I know fire is a lot of people's weakness, it organic things. But what are the chances that magic fire works on like space monsters?
01:14:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's just like it's just like it's never it's never come up. He's never been on a planet with like fire on it or like no one's tried to like burn him.
01:14:57
Speaker
It's like the wi but Wicked Witch from, like, Wizard of Oz. Like, no one ever got, like, water near her until that point.
01:15:04
Speaker
It's like, Steve Deft, he's like Frankenstein. He's like, keep that fire away from me Fire bad. Yeah, would have been funny if it just, like, the fire thing shows up and the beast is just like, oh, no shit, no one told me they had fire. Yeah.
01:15:17
Speaker
They should have set the glaive on fire and like had, like, a ah fire glaive and that should have had the death kill. that have been cool. impute it with like the fire magic.
01:15:33
Speaker
but ah yeah But yeah, they kill the beast, used to get out, the it's a classic, like ah the roof is collapsing, like we gotta to get everyone out, like um anyone who survived, get out of the castle.
01:15:44
Speaker
And then they they repeat the prophecy of like, and by the way, remember their son is going to take over the galaxy one day. keep that in mind. Don't you love this world and creatures and universe? And again, you're just like, so like bombarded with plot that the pacing, you just like are like, just happy to see the end.
01:16:09
Speaker
Wouldn't hilarious if like the prophecy is like, oh, their son's going to take over the galaxy, but he was an evil dictator? He's like the emperor. It's like oh, shit. that's We he misinterpreted the prophecy. like he wasn't going to rule the galaxy. to rule the galaxy as like an evil like overlord.
01:16:28
Speaker
we thought You thought he was going to save people? like No. it turns out it was... It should have been... um He's the new beast. No, no.
01:16:39
Speaker
It's like... It would have been... ah like The seer's apprentice. He's actually the one. That'd actually be a nice twist. you think this like but the far the The husband and wife, they're actually good, but their kid is evil.
01:16:57
Speaker
So then the real hero is the seer's apprentice that they kept alive. That'd be a sequel. Yeah, in the sequel, it's like, wow... Titch versus whatever whatever, like, listen, how it sounds going to be named.
01:17:12
Speaker
Rel. Rel 2. sign up like Whatever, like, the they they honor the name.
01:17:21
Speaker
They a different glaive. It's like, there was a second glaive. Yeah, oh my god. See, that's the sequel to Kroll. It's like, it's the Magician's Apprentice versus the, or not Magician, you know, the Seer's Apprentice versus his royal blood who is now corrupted by, like, the Glaive. Because, like, you saw how crazy Caldwell was. He was like, the Glaive is awesome!
01:17:44
Speaker
It's power! yeah we Yeah, you went, like, full Bilbo on it. It's like, why should why should I have all the power? It's so powerful, I need it. I could conquer the whole galaxy with it.
01:17:56
Speaker
So as I'm saying, like doesn't that make more sense? And then you get a whole new adventure where society gets rebuilt, but it's like totalitarian, where um this like fanatical group of glaive people, and it's like, well, turns out that the symbol of the glaive is not that glaive.
01:18:15
Speaker
It's like another glaive. It's a good glaive.
01:18:21
Speaker
There you go. We we fixed it. we We made ah s se yeah Pitch a s sequel. Pitch a sequel. And then you do the, like, the aliens come back, but then it's like, there's also, like, another alien sect that comes in, and they're, like, instead of this time of conquerors, they're peacekeepers.
01:18:40
Speaker
And they're introducing, like, basic laser weapons to the society. it It just goes it goes like full sci-fi. like This is like fantasy with a little bit of sci-fi in it. Now it's like sci-fi with a little bit of fantasy.
01:18:53
Speaker
Oh yeah, like you think this movie's going to take place with horses and shit. It's like, no, no, that's the first five minutes, and then like they get into a rocket ship. yeah They get into a launch pad, and like, what? Or, oh my god, this is the perfect time if this 4K sells really well, and then someone has the bright idea to
Pitching a Sci-fi Cinematic Universe Idea
01:19:10
Speaker
do a... um but like a movie that's sort of like it's a sci-fi movie then they go onto the planet and it's like what's the and then end of the movie it reveals it's Kroll planet and you're like whoa and then it's like cinematic universe like a glass yeah a glass where it's like oh shit it's it's the Miracle universe yeah yeah and the guy's like well we're here for this one weapon what is it?
01:19:36
Speaker
ah gla got the cut the credits
01:19:42
Speaker
And then people are just like, was this like a rom-com or something? what When the heck did they go to this space?
01:19:50
Speaker
Oh, man. These are the parts where i'm like, of want be a writer just to pitch these dumb movies and see how far I get.
'Krull's' Box Office Failure and Cultural Impact
01:19:58
Speaker
I don't even care if it gets made. I just want to pitch this to an executive and then just have them be like, hey, you guys run the movie Crawl? It's like, yeah. It's like, all right, cool. That's half of the conversation.
01:20:08
Speaker
Yeah, unfortunately, Krull bombed horribly. but yeah So so so i don't think other i don't think there was ever talk about a sequel. Until now. Until now, yeah.
01:20:21
Speaker
even though it's it's Even though it's kind of, you know, it's it's it's it's been a cult classic. kind of has, like, the glaive and some of this other stuff has kind of, like, lingered in pop culture. But, like, I feel like this is, like, definitely, like,
01:20:35
Speaker
B tier of 80's fantasy like it's not like but like the memorable like Labyrinth ah Conan like Dark Crystal that kind of thing like it's oh this is a very odd cut it's a deep cut reference and then I think maybe like Venture Brothers like had Kroll reference once and that's it that's the last one I remember Yeah, I feel like if anything references... Family Guy?
01:21:04
Speaker
Family Guy definitely did, yeah. I feel like if if you're referencing anything, it's always, like, people just, like, reference, like, it's like someone just has the glaive that's only reference to Coral. Yeah.
01:21:15
Speaker
Unless you just feature a cyclops and, like, something, you know? like you just can't Like, those are just concepts alone. You need, like, everything else.
Availability of 'Krull' in 4K
01:21:25
Speaker
But what ties it together is the dumb glaive. Mm-hmm.
01:21:31
Speaker
But yeah, if youve if you listen to this and you want to watch Krull, it's on 4K now, so you can check that out. Or and believe it's on Tubi, which is where I watched it. ah i think Actually, I think it's for like two more weeks, and then it's going to be probably somewhere else maybe. So if you want to watch it now on Tubi. I'm not sure if it's anywhere else. and maybe ah Usually if it's on Tubi, it's usually on Prime Video or something too, but it's definitely on Tubi.
01:22:00
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So, ah yeah, so that'll do it for this
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