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Season 7- Episode 3- That's Not How You Duggie (PWR Preview & Premiership Round 2)
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It is more fun from those American (rugby) Idiots. On this episode we are talking about the upcoming PWR season, player movement, darkhorses, and just who in the world can knock Gloucester-Hartpury off of the pedestal. Of course, we do the whip around of the Prem including the ding donger on Friday night at The Gate. Plus it's our new segments with things like Try of The Week, Young Player of The Week and Yes, Dickhead of the Week too. All this, so much more, get yourself a glass of something to drink and enjoy fam!
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a It is yeah the fantasy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody's handled that collusion.
00:00:29
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What's going on, everyone? It is the fantasy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyke. Let's go. We got loves to do. Loves to talk about. I mean, there's so much we're skipping over to. It's like really annoying, but like we're trying to keep this to an hour. We really are. We're really going to try hard this year. So. Not much to be done. Not much to be done in that um in that case, unfortunately.
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I am. There we go. That's the one I was supposed to Find your favorite podcast to have down the review. Yes. I am back to full health. Thank God. Yeah. Actually like Wednesday or Thursday, I actually started feeling a a ton better ah last week. So we drinking some of my mainly brethren and Bissell brothers.
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Well, you've gone from like A to B. and That's about it. Probably.
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Yeah. Yep. Feedback. Always welcome. What's that? All right. But yeah, buy our good friend, George. That's where we get your coffee or beer.
00:01:56
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make sure that you are very generous to that man, especially if you did well in these past weekends and because he's awesome. Also, that's what besides the point, but you know, besides the point, um,
00:02:14
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There is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. Um, our general theme on this one is don't start world war three because there's like a few situations that are bubbling that could potentially turn into that. And it's really, i I laugh only because I'm, I have no other way to react because it's really, really fucking scary. And yeah, let's not do that, please.
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Right, please.
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Big idea.
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Yeah, please, please, Justin, the camera, um, no shit, like just there's, and there's all, yeah, it's, it's not one corner. It's many, which is the terrifying thing. Like there, okay. We could resolve this conflict. Then there's like, there's still two other conflicts, but like at minimum that we can potentially have another problem with. It's like, Jesus, Mary and Joseph guys, what are we doing? Can we not, can we not do that? Like, can we not do that?
00:03:52
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Please, I'm pretty pleased with sugar on top. Can we please not do that? Thank you. Good night. Anyway, good talk to you out there. Make sure that you grab our Patreon. Of course, um as Ben said, he's gonna be a little bit on that, although um' I've found time to pick up a little bit of slack and get some of the data points in there.
00:04:19
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i banged out I banged out of ah the first two weeks of data last week. So we won't have as long to wait once Ben's, you know, unfucked to schedule. But in the meantime, I did get boom bust up last week. So those of you that got that, I hope you enjoyed that and found it useful in any way, shape or form. And I'll, you know, child naps bearing. I will attempt to do the same this week.
00:04:50
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You got a grown up shop now.
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That's where that's where it bumps into problems. This is where we get into problems. Mm.
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Yep.
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I mean, there's, um so we have all of October, but the last week in October is the last one until November tests are over.
00:05:55
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yeah Yep. Yep. And that'll be plenty of data at that point too, to kind of get a bearing. All ah all those good things. In the meanwhile, I will continue to put out as much content as I can on there. And we appreciate everyone that subscribes anyway and and gives us the support.
00:06:13
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Um, also also I will do my, I will be so much better about publishing the PWR standings on Patreon this year. I really didn't do it at all last year. If I did, if I did it once, I did never like, uh,
00:06:31
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No, I mean, nobody that saw it for on the paid, but I did, but you know, I can do, I can, I can be a free thing. That's not a big deal. What, what, and what information are we hoarding on that side? Please. Uh, but anyway, um, there's that. So yeah, that's kind of a preview of what's coming on later on in the fancy corner show. Anyhow, as we get PWR, let's,
00:06:58
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talk about number one, we're going to have a special guest next week. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Yep. That's okay. I think, I think when you get a minute to wrap your brain about it, you figure out who it is. Exactly. See, didn't you need to tell you. Anyway, but let's talk about the league the second year as the permission of women's rugby league, not just, you know,
00:07:29
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whatever cockamamie lee, they decided to sign to it. Allianz. That's the one I think I remember last. Yes, it's an actual league. Obviously lots of excitement. The obviously also this year, everything's gonna be everyone's gonna be a little depleted because everyone's playing w x v one and so on and and two and so on. So there's that little caveat to throw in there. But There's still some pretty quality players that are going to be playing in these games. So don't take anything away from it.
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Yep.
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Oh yeah. We'll get to that. We'll get to that later.
00:08:40
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Hooray. Um, yes, that slows that. Let me, I was just going back through that one. Um, anyway, so big weekend, obviously you can come up. It does.
00:08:55
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No, this they're rolling right into it. 99% sure. Yep.
00:09:04
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October 5th and 6th. Yeah. We got series trail finders at nine, light, lightning and bears at 10, Quinn's and chief's at 10. And then Sunday, it's a bright and early kickoff. Although, Ooh, that's one to get the sport. I wonder if that's the one we're going to get. That'll be interesting. Gloucester Harper against tigers. I'd be, I'd be all for a cup of Joe here. And, um, By the way, those are all Eastern times in the US. Those are not UK times, so chill the fuck out if you're listening to this. I'm like, that doesn't make sense. You're right, it doesn't. You're absolutely right, it doesn't. um Anywho, I don't know who stops Gloucester Heart Prairie.
00:09:52
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I think this is like the window to take advantage of them because they do have many, many players a away on international duty. But like, holy shitballs, what do you do to stop that team?
00:10:09
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Mm hmm. No, probably not.
00:10:22
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Probably not. Yeah. And, and I mean, there's so much, there's so much, good so many good things that are going on with the England team. And there's so many good players that are away right now for Gloucester heartbreak in particular, but still like, what do you, how, how, how are you going to take down this, this juggernaut ah for lack of a better term?
00:10:53
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Mm-hmm.
00:11:06
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Now she's with Wales. Mm-hmm.
00:11:29
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Mm hmm.
00:11:44
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Mm hmm. They I mean, they have such a great thing with. Mm hmm. Yeah, that's mean. That's just mean. That's just mean. ah outbra We not to discount anyway that they lost. Like the only one I see, maybe Roach, maybe Delgado, that they lost. That's it. Like everybody else, I'm like, all right, cool. You know.
00:12:24
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And to add, yeah, yeah, to add, you know, Ellie green, it's a alone is like, damn it. but How'd that happen?
00:12:41
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No, it's ah really for me, like the team that lost probably the most and just let me double check my work here. Um, in terms of volume and talent kind of outgoing was Quinn's. You know, there was so, and you know, a few of them retired, you know, Emily Scott retired, Shauna Brown retired, Mu retired, you know, Flo Robinson left, Emily Robinson left, like, that's not awesome for them. They they got some good things in.
00:13:18
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You know, they got, they got their daughter from cluster heartbreak. She'll bring a good mentality. They got Harriet Miller mills in sugar to get what Alex calendar is not, that is not talked about enough. In my opinion, that really isn't, um, there and Kaylee power, like early carton too. We can, I think we can manage that. So whoever jumped up the Chris Harris one, we can probably drum that one up too.
00:13:44
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You know, so about as quality from, uh, we've seen what the Canadians are doing right now. They're fucking tearing it up, you know, but still, I just, yeah you see the experience leaving that team between the top three names right there on that, on, on your list, Brown, Burford, and Scott, like. Shit. Sit there and tell me that you're better off without them. Like, please try, please try. I don't believe you.
00:14:13
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Right.
00:14:30
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Yeah, no reason to... Right. Yeah, it is. as It is, it is.
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um
00:14:48
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yeah Really for me and Ben and I both have a pretty strong ah opinion on this person like sale did a little bit of addition by subtraction by getting rid of hung a towel like this there's others that they probably could have held on to like McLaughlin and tenu see but like that's additions by subtraction. She just she's a penalty waiting to happen for the most part and she's Now, you love players that love to carry, but yeah at the same time, she's a bit of a bog. And, you know, it's like, uh, listen, you're not going to break it from your own goal line. Like just, you know, find a half ga get, get what you can and get the hell to the deck. Like, don't be silly. Don't be silly. She got more playing time up there for sure.
00:15:41
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For her. She, yeah. And.
00:15:46
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likely. yeah um and Anyway, i listen to this pod when Ortiz first came on the scene, but we'll know I had so much stuff to negative things to say about her. And at this point, I dare say she's our best nine for the United States. So um
00:16:18
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Or she held the ball too long, which made me shit myself a little bit. That might be true.
00:16:32
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Right. That's probably true. Sort yourself out.
00:16:51
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Right. Yeah. The. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:10
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And have it go sideways. Yeah. Ain't that the truth?
00:17:19
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um We can't dismiss everything without talking about the Saracens.
00:17:26
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um Supersonic loved her, but happy retirement, Gal. and you enjoy your Enjoy your time. You've earned it, but stay there. um Grace Moore, on the other hand, that's an annoyance for me. I was happy about having her, and I'm really annoyed that she got away. but She yeah it's also, you know, it's a tough team to break through in and get a solid spot. So I don't blame her for finding, you know, her feet elsewhere. Trail finders are going to do great for them. um
00:18:05
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Mm hmm. Yep.
00:18:17
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Yeah. The Canucks are invading. The Canucks are invading. this so I mean, Bermudez and Corrigan are great additions, obviously. And then the Academy promotions. Love to see it. Love to see it. Like that's what that's what it's about, really. You know, that really is what's up. That's what we want for every time, every time, all the time, every time. Yeah, I don't see.
00:19:00
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Okay, it's probably Yeah
00:19:26
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Yeah. Um, I think for the sake of the idiots down in Devon, um, I'm not sure. And I'm probably missing, missing it here. Who is replacing Wilkins at 10? Because let's be honest, Gabby is, as a 10 is not her best position. She's better off as a center.
00:19:58
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And I know she can play 10. So that's the plan. Okay. But like, really, if you want to challenge your best option is probably to find someone to wear the 10 shirt. That's not Gabby cantorna. Cause yeah, she has, she's had a lot of bad days as a 10 more than you'd want. If you're talking about someone that plays it for international level.
00:20:32
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Lots of bitching. ah
00:20:40
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We'll see. I don't, I don't think that I don't either. I don't either. And I know they do, they, they will. And they do, but I don't, I don't. Facts. Somewhere in there.
00:21:01
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Yeah, get one of those in order, please. Get one of those in order, please. um
00:21:10
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Top four. Series Bristol, lots of heartbreak and. I know Exeter got there last year, I'm wondering if maybe. Yeah, it might be done by default, i hope I don't think it will be, I think there'll be a dark course that comes out of nowhere.
00:21:33
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I do think there'll be someone that comes out, a teen that comes out of nowhere and and takes that, that fourth one, that fourth spot. So we'll see, but it's, it's another fun and exciting PWR year. We're looking forward to it. And, um, yeah, make sure that you tune into a fancy corner because we're going to talk about some fun things over there.
00:22:01
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All right. Let's go to round two of the prem. um ah Friday with a doozy. Bristol and Gloucester and Bristol almost pulled it off.
00:22:22
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but That's right. I'm sure you can manage yourself. we can That might be more more helpful when we talk about power rankings.
00:22:40
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Yeah.
00:23:00
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Yeah.
00:23:19
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Mmm. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. think I think that was a sard.
00:23:35
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No, I, yeah, it's one of those things you've, if this was like a few years ago, even under like Yoan Akerman, you'd believe otherwise, but with skibs, it's like,
00:23:48
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Need to see a big guy. I really do. I mean. Yep.
00:24:16
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Yep.
00:24:23
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Mm hmm.
00:24:29
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No shit, right? Yeah, they, you know, they they got two bonus points out of the whole deal, which is not wildly awesome when you think about the grand scheme of things. But if you look at that match and say, all right, you got two bonus points out of that, that's that's a lot. Really? Could you have gotten more? Absolutely. But, you know, if you was 15, 20 and a half time, that's not really something I'm planning on getting.
00:24:54
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Two points out of really, um, I might be hoping for a win, but I'm not getting, I'm not hoping for. Much really.
00:25:15
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Yep. Yeah. Uh, no.
00:25:27
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Yeah. How about Genji and Fisagban?
00:25:36
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ha ha ha ha ha I mean, you see i was ah the young players that are coming through for England, they they just won the U20 championships. like this is And they've they've you know they their their tails are up in there, and they're very confident in themselves right now. and You know, I'd say they're already to back themselves and, and you know, test their mettle against players of the high end quality. And, you know, it was nice to see Genji and him having a chat afterwards and just like, and I'm, I'm sure, you know, Genji is very aware that if good things go, if things go well for, for Sogbon, he may well be his teammate very soon.
00:26:20
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Yep. So he may be playing next to him in that front row and yeah. get Get on with each other a little bit at least. Yeah.
00:26:47
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Haskell. I'm up it.
00:26:55
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Marla or less so. Marla or less so. Haskell, absolutely. Total bellend.
00:27:13
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but
00:27:18
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but all i'm thinking of All I'm thinking of is Joe Marla tickling out and the scene from Get Him to the Greek where he cra grabs his his his package. Release the emperor!
00:27:34
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i saw That's where my brain went.
00:27:44
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I think Alan went and enjoyed it because he didn't testify against him in any of the hearings, so he got off. Phrasing. Boom.
00:28:07
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Right. Right.
00:28:14
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Yeah. Let's go to Saturday. Quinn's new castle.
00:28:22
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Doo-shree. Yeah. Which will, which will be good. Let's go to Saturday. Uh, we'll start with Quinn's new castle. There's not much there. There is a lot to be said, but there's not much to be said. Um, I mean, they got four and they kind of took the foot off the gas. I don't think anyway would say otherwise.
00:28:48
Speaker
Hmm. I mean, they they started off giving up seven right off the bat. I was like, Oh, hello. what's What's, what's going on here? Guys? Like, are anybody paying attention? Anybody? Anybody?
00:29:03
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Yeah. Absolute hump. Yeah. If you had that, if you had that prop, that please send me evidence. Cause I don't believe you.
00:29:23
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Yep. That he is. That he is. You did. Good old fashioned fashion. Good stuff right there.
00:29:47
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Same.
00:30:01
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Yes. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
00:30:17
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Yeah.
00:30:30
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Yeah, they'll be in, they'll be in good shape. Um, for there, there.
00:30:41
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No. Right. Yep. Hey, scored.
00:30:59
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No, it wasn't, it was, no. He did, you peed up pretty good. No, he did get up, but yeah, you looked like he was taking a couple of dings there. You must be.
00:31:24
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Guy is not built to play 80.
00:31:30
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Yeah. And you used them all right now.
00:31:40
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You started. Yeah. ah Yeah. Nope. No, you look very unhappy with that one. Um, a lot of, a lot of youth playing well in this game and Sammy Arnold. Where the fuck you been, dude?
00:32:02
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Run like a man possessed? A little bit. Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:32:09
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Well, I mean, run, run, run the same way you've been running, but run at gaps in space. Don't run at bodies. Don't run into double tackles the way you've been, my boy, and you'll be fine. And good things like actually might happen for this team. You know, and I'll say this for Newcastle's sake. Both games the last two weeks.
00:32:32
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would have got out of hand last year and probably the year before.
00:32:48
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Yep. Yeah, Tom Gordon's playing really well right now.
00:33:14
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Those two. Yeah. Yeah. The season really, but.
00:33:44
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Yeah. No.
00:33:53
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Yeah. All right, let's go to let's go to the stone X. So for everyone that saw the bullshit, that's fucking what's his button myself or having that I was not satisfied with with Saracens up to this point up till 60 minutes in this match. Cause I was like, what the fuck? Oh, trust me. My, my wife will back me. I was like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, this is absolute horseshit. This is trash. Like, and it it was, it was not good stuff. Like why, like continuously going for penalties and missing a few of them on top of it. It's like, oh, rump guys, what the fuck are we doing? Like, yeah.
00:34:39
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um percent 100%, 100%.
00:34:45
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Amazing, right?
00:35:07
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20 minutes or so. No, no.
00:35:20
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more often than for 80 minutes.
00:35:28
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It's, it's a good, it's a good thing to have scored 40 odd this week in whatever we got last week, 30 odd. Um, and really still kind of being a little clunky. I think most people would agree that we're a little clunky.
00:35:46
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And yes, we'll lose guys once. Um, and they'll probably get rest once, uh, November happens and.
00:36:06
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Yep.
00:36:17
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Yeah, he was immense.
00:36:24
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Yeah. And what is it? yeah Yeah. Yeah, players. What does it say about them removing moral, I see in quotes, tactically at 41 minutes and really,
00:36:41
Speaker
Nothing bad happened. I mean, it's not to doubt Maro's ability. i think I don't think anybody would. He's still one of the best second rows in the world. um But it does speak to, one, everyone knows their job in this team, or at least most people know their job in this team. And two, like the talent drop off is very minimal when you go from starter to you know even enforce fourth choice second row.
00:37:09
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Mm-hmm.
00:37:17
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Yeah. 50, uh, 50 appearances for the boy. Good for him. Good for him. Good for him. Yep. Um,
00:37:31
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yeah. Yep. Uh, a word on for me on sale. I, I'm not trying to wish someone get hurt or anything like that, but I also don't have a ton of sympathy when you play this super combative style of rugby. Like it's going to offer up moments like this where you have games where guys drop like flies. And also the fact that I'm not celebrating for getting hurt. I promise. But like, it's just appropriate that he gets hurt kicking for goal. Right. Like it's not poetic, whatever the opposite of that is, but just like, fuck, like,
00:38:12
Speaker
Only in that moment for Ford would he get hurt kicking f for goal. Yeah, I know. Right.
00:38:35
Speaker
In the final against Lester, but they don't have Freddie burns. So that's their loss.
00:38:44
Speaker
ah yeah Yeah, I mean And he was banged up fuck up have anybody really think put on for him They went six too. I mean they were there. I think they were just fucked all around doesn't matter how they did it. Yeah, now no Yeah, that's true. Actually. Yeah hate to say Yeah, but they had already pulled bed low on in Addison for nine clay boots. So I mean, he found the gaps. We left the gaps and he, and that's the style of which he, he plays where he's a very much a straight line, hard runner, easy.
00:39:50
Speaker
would be a good idea.
00:40:00
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where do you go from ah
00:40:13
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Yeah. Yeah. Uh, let's go to the gardens. Um, Uh, I, again, I, I did. It was, it was in doubt, but only at the very end and really wasn't that much in doubt because I had a hard time believing that exit. We're going to find another way to score. Like the fact that they got three kind of astounded me and, um, I'll chalk a lot of that up to Hollywood burn and the fucking horse that he is. Um,
00:40:49
Speaker
create to him out there was zoo because he played pretty phenomenally. um Adam, Adam Leal is absolute trash.
00:41:02
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Yeah. Luscious, luscious. um Yeah. And just, you know, the, the manner in which Yeah, and Exeter were kind of just stuck in their own way, which not shouldn't be a shock to anybody ah for about 65 minutes and until they scored their second try. Yes, because they got one on the first. Say, wait a minute, I know the answer to this.
00:41:29
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um
00:41:52
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I think their, I think their game playing kind of was shit, which isn't, isn't a surprise for anyone. Yeah. They only fucking got and really got it going 65 minutes in particular team. Yeah. No.
00:42:31
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I think Northampton let them let them back in a little bit, because I don't think, yeah, I don't see how Exeter really did a whole lot different from what they were doing before, you know, they were making some pretty poor decisions. ah You know, we talk about styles and just like, you know, Exeter getting in their own way and basically just, you know, handing the ball to Northampton more often than not. And then Northampton doing some real, hot like, if you haven't watched the huts try, class.
00:42:59
Speaker
glass double double kick, double cross kick, one then the other and like hot just like waltz in he didn't even they didn't have a shot stopping him. They really didn't. I was like, Okay, that tells you a lot about that. And you know, when Northampton decided that they were going to do the things that make them good. Exeter didn't have a shot and they look they look they look downright stupid on that play in particular.
00:43:27
Speaker
And when they didn't then, okay, exit are in this. Like it's almost like they just can't remember. They, they've forgotten that they're champions that they, that they have this wonderful style of playing. And yeah, maybe they've gone reverted back to the North Hampton of two, three years ago where they're bleeding points, but there's still this wonderful team to watch. And yeah, you want to talk about putting bums in seats. I would, I'd go to the gardens all day long to watch that team play. And if you don't, please give me your ticket because I will fucking do it.
00:44:01
Speaker
Now watch that the stupid is still fucking worth it. It's still worth it. All day long. All day long. Yeah. Understatement. Understatement. Uh, let's go. Let's go to Wellford road. Um,
00:44:19
Speaker
again, and but another team that like,
00:44:24
Speaker
Lustre couldn't get out of their own fucking way sometimes. And Bath were another team that took a lot of injuries and this was and this was just really rotten luck and in a lot of ways. um Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:46
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Yeah. Uh-huh. Exactly. And it's...
00:44:57
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Yeah, it it was just, it it was, again, a little clunky, a little bit, a little bit, you know, disheveled. All he has to call is knocking on your shirt for I try is not helpful at all. ah He won't let that one down for a little bit.
00:45:12
Speaker
he Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no. Ali, you need to need to put those down. And I don't remember who I think it was Google or whatever it was was talking about. That's why you dive on a dive on the ball when you're running in.
00:45:26
Speaker
ah And I, and I had one kid that did what he tried to do and put the ball down. I was like, no, just, just like either two hands or you dive on like no between, no between. Okay. Got it. ah I usually do too. That's right. If I, if I have the open field, that's what I go for. However, very few times I did that.
00:45:52
Speaker
Yep. And he would, and he would have. would have had a plenty of crowd to acknowledge. ah
00:46:08
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Right. Yeah, it's all right. Nice and tight, tight, tight. Um, I mean,
00:46:24
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We talked about Guy Pepper not being not finding a place in this team.
00:46:31
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Maybe, maybe not. Maybe not. It keeps doing that. I know it was another one, but he had a great, he had a good game. You had a good game. You know, that's, that's a hell of a luxury right there to have him and, you know, and Josh Bayless, who I also thought had a good game and especially where he got Pitner.
00:46:52
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position that he's not supposed to be playing. Poor fella. Um, yeah, I thought Guy Pepper had a really good game. You know, he had fucking guy had 12 tackles on top of everything else he did on on offense. So yeah, that, that to me is a proper back rower. Like, fuck yeah. Give me that all day long. Had a line, had a line break. Um, a couple of, no, i no offloads. And he, he, no, I need to, I need clarification is turnovers, like,
00:47:22
Speaker
geed the ball away or yeah, I think it is too. So yeah, he turned he he got, he nicked the ball three times. Right. Maybe that's what, and maybe that's what it is. Okay. Or handling Harris. Yep. So yeah, he had three, he had three steals of various sorts. So yeah, the only, and
00:47:52
Speaker
Uh-huh. No, he's been, he's broken. Shock of the day. Uh-uh. Yeah. And the only back row that had more than him. Yeah. The only starting back row that had more than him was Cracknell. Who as we know is still, is still probably carrying a pretty heavy heart. That sucks. Go bad for him. Um, but yeah, and then, you know,
00:48:24
Speaker
The need for me, Lester, need to. Encourage JVP to be himself more and more, the more he is able to find space and exploit the space in around the rock and or, you know, find those offloads and whatnot, where he's, you know, he is the guy in the middle. You know, we think of um Alex Mitchell and Cobus Reinach from Northampton, Ben Spencer, who was on the opposite side of this event sale place for Saracens, Corky, who's not healthy right now, care.
00:48:54
Speaker
um port or even to an extent these days. um those are that's the That's how the modern knight needs to play and just don't discourage it. and
00:49:27
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think ball of ball is very good.
00:49:41
Speaker
Yeah, that's Northampton.
00:50:03
Speaker
Dummy.
00:50:19
Speaker
Yep. All right, let's go to the rest of the wee bit. We'll try and wrap this up in 10, 15 minutes here. um Real quick, power rankings. Does Newcastle move off the bottom? No.
00:50:33
Speaker
Um, Gloucester was, uh, eight last week. Do they stay there? Does Exeter state? And I think the Exeter stays at nine. They didn't play very well. So yeah, it's a gloss to go up above Lester above sale. Okay. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Sales States.
00:51:03
Speaker
Sale state six. No reason to move them up. Quinn, stay the same or go above saints or Bristol? Okay. Yeah. So Beth, Saris, Bristol, saints. One, two, three, four.
00:51:28
Speaker
Okay. Should know, yeah.
00:51:37
Speaker
Yep. Bath's still one. Yeah. Tough one. Tough one. Yep.
00:51:57
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, 60 seconds. Yep.
00:52:08
Speaker
Right there. Yep. Um, 60 seconds or less. Any 60 seconds or less. Jesus Christ. Um, any elite trends you want to acknowledge?
00:52:35
Speaker
Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Um, before we get into our, um, by the, the players that outdid themselves or coaches or officials, uh, shouts, big shouts to, um, a guy I glossed over last week by accident and I shouldn't have. And I'm not going to pass up this week. Evanette's the Beth James slipper, both becoming the most caps cap players for their country and for the men's teams. Um, slipper to me is just a little bit more of an acknowledgement, like as a fucking prop.
00:53:08
Speaker
Like, and yes, he rolls himself out there half put together sometimes, but also scrums from both sides at international level. Like I, I, there's not, there's not a lot of negatives to say about James Slipper. And then.
00:53:30
Speaker
Applaud and just gush on. Yeah. One of the best ever without a note.
00:53:43
Speaker
yeah
00:53:59
Speaker
In space that man is a menace.
00:54:10
Speaker
And actually does damage and instead of just falling over in one feet away. Yep. Yeah. I mean, I think he's going to, he, someone already said he could be the first player to play one 50 and I wouldn't be shocked. Um,
00:54:30
Speaker
I mean, he'll be one of those things where he, he'll be one of those things where he hits a cliff and he's just got a nosedive unfortunately. Cause he's been so good for so long. Um, But without a doubt, going down is one of like a world 15 lock all time, unquestionably. um Yeah, two World Cup titles, like, has he won he is he he's won a play of the year, hasn't he? Am I losing my mind here? that's That's wrong. That's wrong in so many ways.
00:55:05
Speaker
All right, we'll fix that before he's done. We got to fix that before he's done. Let's put it that way. Anyway.
00:55:14
Speaker
Yeah. I already get, I already pipped him. That was hard. Yeah. I wasn't sad about our, our deserves the recognition just as much as Evan does. Honestly. Um, different server, different data. Uh, I hope it does. I hope it does. Someone else out there than the sales this week, player coach official.
00:55:40
Speaker
Okay.
00:55:58
Speaker
Um, yeah, I'm going to throw bail us out there, having to play at a position that he's not supposed to be playing and didn't do so badly and eventually got subbed off, but that's okay.
00:56:10
Speaker
Um, I'm going to throw a shout to tis. Obviously we talked about him getting number 50. That's wonderful on him. Wade. Yeah. Wade, Wade hat trick. Absolutely. A menace and a man near and dear to me. TJ. Just congratulations. Big guy. That is.
00:56:38
Speaker
a send off of all send offs at the place that he made his, you know, made his bread for sure. And yeah, I, I don't know the last time I watched a hurricanes match that TJ Paranar wasn't at least talked about. I know he took, he ah took took some time off and also had the, had the, had the injury as well. But like, yeah, don't think about the hurricanes in the modern day without thinking about TJ Paranar. So, um, you know,
00:57:07
Speaker
as a hurricanes fan, he's definitely one of my favorite players that has ever touched the pitch and, uh, the game was better with him than without him. And it's going to certainly miss him. And I'm glad he got some sort of send off, although we'll talk about the, we're going to find, we're going to find out. I mean, nugget did a good job when it was his job, but yeah.
00:57:35
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Who knows?
00:57:57
Speaker
Why? Why, man? Why? I could use you not doing that like now or ever.
00:58:11
Speaker
Yep. I need that back there, dude. Trust me. ah any others Any others to give shouts to?
00:58:27
Speaker
but Well, get we'll get there. We'll get there. Shit the bed.
00:58:42
Speaker
but Yeah. Who gets two yellows? Come on, man. I did not acknowledge the class of Alex Good in that too. that I should have mentioned that. I meant to put him in my.
00:58:54
Speaker
um
00:59:14
Speaker
Uh-huh.
00:59:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, my shit, my, I had to, I had to, for, I had to, well, I had two things that shit the bed. Flow. Flow.
00:59:44
Speaker
flow fucking. Yeah. Four minutes into the match, they started that all black replay and it was like.
00:59:59
Speaker
Yeah, four minutes into the match flow just completely. Spit the bet because they started their replay for the lobbies and all blacks match formats into it. That's just ridiculous.
01:00:15
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know how the fuck you do that. So, and it missed the Haka, the MSTJ's last Haka, or at least last I saw. So not awesome flow, not awesome. So my, my other person that shit the bed was Adam Leal this week. Um, I know you watched the game, but, or at least much of the, that game, but like,
01:00:41
Speaker
Textbook. He was already pissing me off. So yes. ah Textbook example of hands to floor before ball. And of course, it's fucking that Muppet Ethan roots on top of it. So it's like, dude, really? Like, how did you and he's looking right at it? It's in the actual fuck. Did you see? Please explain this to me. Like, oh, yeah. And there was no I'm looking around. I'm like, is there another penalty that he possibly could have like just said, you know what? That's good enough because this person's also illegal. So fuck it. There was nothing else there.
01:01:11
Speaker
Roots put hands to floor and then went to the ball. It's like, yeah, it's one thing when it's like, all right, I grazed the floor and I'm balanced. It's fine. You know, now his hands hit the floor like you would balance himself on it and then went to the ball. I was like, you know, so yeah, what do you have a meal? But that leads us to our. Our our coach, our ref, our young player and then our players and our actual players a week.
01:01:40
Speaker
So for the first three, I i stayed in the, in the prime, but the other ones I didn't, I went all, I was only able to watch a few, would like almost all the prime matches, everything else. Oh, I, I didn't watch much else, but, but, but there's something I wanted to acknowledge. So that's why I did it. Sure. Fair enough. Um, so coach, I'll give it to skips. He, his boys did it away from home. Yep. So that that's, and going down to Bristol is not, not a fun thing to do.
01:02:09
Speaker
winning there. He coached the hell out of the bounce of that ball. yeah Listen, there are ways to still screw that up. They almost did. I know. um yeah no i He was my coach of the week too. Saving his own ass, or at least his ass is being saved. so His ass is being saved. and then um For me, I gave it to Luke Pierce again only because He was upholding. and Number one, he wanted to keep the game moving. But when it was a head injury, he was not having it. He's like, nope, it's a head injury. You're off, dude. Like, go go get yourself checked. Like, yeah, because they have those those high tech mouth guards. So they tell them tells them, like, listen, mass doctor says you're going to get an H.I.A. And your story, you're not staying on the field. Right. At the same time, like, you know, all right, you're trying to get your laces under you, trying to catch your breath. Let's fucking move on, guys. Come on. Not in the way. And you're not crucial to the play. Get on with it. Yeah. So I appreciate that.
01:03:03
Speaker
Um, and like I said, I went with CMK. I thought he was the best. Okay. Yeah. No, that's, that that's fair. You know, say Pierce every week. So it's yeah no, and I'm sure I'll say, just well I just wanted to kind of acknowledge that part. Yeah. No, he did. That was a, that was a, yeah. Good shot. And then young player for me was, and I'm sorry, he came off, but like Cassius Cleves from Quinn's. I had same. The deal. The deal. And there were others too. Jibilu looked great. Um,
01:03:32
Speaker
Brett Shaw looks like he's going to be the real deal for Newcastle as well. So, um, but yeah, Cleves is definitely the real deal. Yeah. Um, so yeah. Yeah. So, um, what are we up to next? Try the week. Yep. Try the week. My try the week is is that Freddie Thomas masterpiece. Oh yeah. That piece throughout like, I didn't realize that there was a, there was even a tackle in a phase within that. Um, it was just so much fun ball movement and,
01:04:02
Speaker
Like you look at the number of players who touched the ball in that and how many touched it twice in the in the last two phases of that try. Trouble guys, yeah. And yeah, it was like.
01:04:14
Speaker
You ever see like a baseball, like, so they score baseball in this, like, there's the number way. Yeah. There's a number like, yeah. It's pitchers, one catchers, two kind of thing. And and so sometimes there's recording out if there's like a rundown. So you got a player in between yeah like two bases um and and and they recorded now. I hate keeping the book when those happened. Oh, I know. Cause it's like,
01:04:37
Speaker
nine, or no, one, three, five, four, six, four, six, four. And those that don't know, when you're in a lower league, in youth leagues and high school leagues, someone has to keep the book. Someone has to keep the book. So it has to record everybody who touched the ball before the out was recorded. So that's always fun.
01:05:00
Speaker
But that's kind of how that try was because it was like, I mean Zach Mercer was like the second receiver and then passed it on and then got it back and then passed on to someone else and there was a quick tackle and recycle and then like three different guys touched the ball like twice and then and Thomas ended up scoring like that. Yeah. Yeah. so Amazing. ah Anyway, um yeah, my try of the week was actually much as I give them shit and half pennies st try off that came off cleaves. That was pretty sweet. So it was a pretty nice little bit of play there. So I gave them that. And I also with a slay acknowledgement to to the giblet to try. That was pretty sweet too. ah Player of the week. Again, I wanted to acknowledge this because it was such a huge moment and world in in rugby in general.
01:05:46
Speaker
um My play of the week is AOP wafer from Irish women's team. They beat the black ferns, yeah defending world champions. And black ferns are in a little bit of trouble. I think most people know that at this point. um She had a sweet try if I'm not sure. Yeah, she had two. She had two on the weekend. She had some of the most meters carry. She had 47. I think she had the most on the Irish team. um Had 20 carries. Yeah. um Nine tackles, missed one.
01:06:15
Speaker
Three offloads. Missed a tackle, come on now. Five defenders beaten, like couple turnovers won, like yeah, she was a monster. But she still missed a tackle, huh? Yeah, it was not too bad for all she did. What does she do? What does she even bother with? Yeah, so yeah, no, she was, she was immense to say the least and good on, and she's been one of the better back rowers in women's rugby, if not in the world.
01:06:39
Speaker
um for a while now, just not acknowledged enough because let's be honest, the Irish team was playing pretty much like ship for a couple of years. Yeah. But this, this county year has been a much better year for the Irish and this is the combination of it right here.
01:06:58
Speaker
yeah on know um My player of the week is Christian made with the hat trick. I mean, can't argue with it. He had fun. He had, he had himself a lot of fun in that game. Yep.
01:07:10
Speaker
on the from the gamble to the bounce and yeah and the other one too. Yeah. ah Yeah. So, and then dick for me, it's dicks of the week. All media persons moaning about the WXV crowds. Shut up. If you're not there, shut up. and You want to get better, be part of the solution, not the problem. Right. You know, rugby, has as we talked about last week, people in rugby love to moan about the problems in rugby.
01:07:42
Speaker
Let's not make this one of those things. Yeah. let me too We don't do that. But especially on social medias though, like that is where people love to have a moan and a whinge about. like ah Let's not start with this shit, please. Like if you're not going to be part of the solution, then shut the fuck up. All right.
01:08:01
Speaker
Honestly, because I mean, the solution is just to keep getting more eyes on it. And I think I do think it kind of hurts because of the, you know, the time differences yeah um that makes it difficult. So it's hard to keep up. And so it's a lot easier for, like you, as you said, um people to wine. And then also, you know, it's a relatively new thing. People aren't sure what they're seeing.
01:08:23
Speaker
Right? You're like, okay, is this a friendly? Does this matter? Like, what is this matter? Like, it's still something that... This is a big deal. Yeah. This is a big deal. I think people understand that. and It is, but like at the same time, casual fans aren't going to know. No. So, because it's just not, it's not established yet. So it's, get it'll get there. It's going to take a couple of years. So if what if I live, if this was in the Northeast United States, I'd be there.
01:08:44
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Wholeheartedly. But that's what I'm saying. It's it's hard. Like, you you'd want the the people who were invested in rugby after certainly after the um Olympics.
01:08:58
Speaker
But they'd be like, Oh, I'll watch rugby. But it's like, I'm not gonna get up at 3am to do it. Like, it's It's one of those, if it's on like in the middle of the day, like the sevens was, it'd be a huge, you know, there would be a lot more interested in it. Interesting. And that you can say that for like the UK crowd, because it's what early morning for them. Sometimes it's just a weird time. Yeah. um Or late. Right. It's it's hard to capitalize on on on that just yet. Yeah. But wait, give it time. Yep. There's no reason to like, yeah, but I guess what I'm ultimately saying is there's no reason to panic.
01:09:32
Speaker
yeah or Nope. Nope. And there's are certainly no reason to be a dick on social media. No, no. Your dick of the week. We already kind of discussed it. Yeah. Dougie. Yeah. Do not show me how to Dougie. Right. Like he was lucky not to get a yell. I read. I thought if I remember correctly, it wasn't that a high tackle that that got them sent off or a high shot of some sort for the first one? Yes. Yeah. And then.
01:09:59
Speaker
you know, getting a second yell. out I think it was even was like, wait, that's right. This is the guy I carded before, isn't it? Oh, yeah. I see this asshole button in and tell him, yeah, we'll talk about a good referee. But, you know, well, yeah, he has moments as we can. But yeah, no, TMO got covered his ass. He's like, that's his second yellow there. Woody. He's like, oh, like oh, right. I seem to recall him pissing me off on the second one. Yeah. Didn't think you'd be stupid enough to do that.
01:10:25
Speaker
No. But you were. Yeah, I can't do that. I got a note, because it's like, obviously, he he probably forgot he had a yellow, because it was a really stupid penalty that he said, and yellow that he took. It wasn't like a good one. Yeah. ah If this were, honestly, ah there is no, there's no law or standard for when you get a second yellow in a match, being a match band. He probably should have one, though.
01:10:50
Speaker
Yeah. But different story for a different day. Right. All right. Let's go pick them. Saints wins. Hosts. Yeah. Sail Gloucester. Hosts. Yeah. But, but in my, so. I will jump up and down and Gloucester win. But. Because, yeah, it's like, because this is like, I actually want to beat you this year. Yeah. Or at least have a shot at beating you. I can't pick Gloucester, even though I can pick Gloucester. I think they can. I think they they have a shot and I want them to. I know. um I'm not sure they're ready yet. Those keep me scarred home. I've owned Ben and Pickham for a couple of years. Beth and Bristol. It always comes down to like, that that's the margin is I'll pick a stupid thing like, oh, Gloucester on the road. Cause they'll do it. And like nine times and then they won't. Anyway, um I have Beth versus Bristol. Again, hosts. Yeah.
01:11:47
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Newcastle, Lester. Lester.
01:11:54
Speaker
This one. This one is on my calendar. i Like, everyone says Quinn's, ah, this one. This one is on my calendar. Because they... series exter If they even give a care, they can just walk away with it.
01:12:08
Speaker
So I, I'm going to say Saracens. I don't, I think that they have a solid squad right now. and I'll back our boys. yeah Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that exit or are ready to go. You know, they have some young, young kids and all that and that's great. I'm not sure they're, you know, I'm sure this team, cause last year they was like early in the year, but it was in Sandy park. Yeah. And I seem to recall they got, they got repaid. When we cover this match, no matter the result, I do want to cover like,
01:12:37
Speaker
do a little bit of like recapping on like why they got off to such a good start last year. Yeah. But anyway, now we'll, we'll, we know we'll hang that out there for now. she aren't Aren't ready to hang with the Saracens team. Nope. Nope. Nope. All right. Awesome. Cool. So We are gonna head over to Fancy Cornerland. Lots to talk about there including PWR, Fancy. Yes, yes, yes. i'm Still waiting on some news on that, but still, yeah we're gonna talk about that over there. Other than that, and we do appreciate everyone that hangs out and listens to us babble for a little bit. We'll catch you guys next week. Enjoy the matches this weekend. and Have a good one, everyone. Later.
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