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jarrod_dyke: Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm Ben Glauser.
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Grumpy Old Prop: I can't wait till, well, yeah, we're not going to playoffs. So now I can't wait till my rugby season's over just so I can have like a beer on our off nights while we do this. Cause I, I am.
jarrod_dyke: cook
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. These nights are, so again, we record this on a Tuesday. Um, Mike, my guys, because we're a men's club team on a university with really only one field.
jarrod_dyke: Cooked.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, yeah, it's,
jarrod_dyke: Can't confirm. Well, you have a second one, but you nobody's allowed to touch it unless you play field hockey.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, exactly. the The women's team got to play on it for preseason and they were like, OK, cool, I guess.
jarrod_dyke: No shit.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Anyway, ah so we have practice on Mondays from nine to eleven. So at this point, it's eight p .m. the next day and i got I'm running on like. It was also I had overnight last night, so I got to get up at like two in the morning to.
Grumpy Old Prop: Feed and soothe and whatnot. That was fun. So, yeah, I'm a little cooks.
jarrod_dyke: Upside, upside. I have a kid that eats and sleeps well for a little bit.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I will not be drinking all that to say I will not be drinking beer because yeah, give me a few weeks.
jarrod_dyke: Um, make sure you that you are buying our good friend, George, the fancy rugby geek, a coffee or beer, busy boy out there, especially those either playing the two current competitions going.
Grumpy Old Prop: I am.
jarrod_dyke: Do we know if speaking of competitions are going do we know if they're gonna be doing the that automations game that they've done in non -world cup years I Hope so, I liked it It was fun.
Grumpy Old Prop: I don't know. I would hope so.
jarrod_dyke: I know it's similar to official six nations, but still it gives us something and it gives us it It's it's so many more players too that you can throw in there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: So that's fun All right um
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh.
jarrod_dyke: There is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. Uh, here in the U S we have a certain region that likes to get hammered by hurricanes. And so of course, naturally we're first off, I have, and I have people that are down there that are, um, uh, and once one's had to make a move for Milton to get out of the way of the current one Milton, but then there's the most recent one, um, Helena Helene, whatever the
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm. Me too. Oh.
jarrod_dyke: hell the damn name was, doesn't matter, destroyed the shit out of a lot of things.
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, it's coming. Oh, the new one.
jarrod_dyke: But yeah, well, bringing to the point, you know, climate change and greed and all that shit, and it's like, I think people need to understand, this used to be like a once a season hurricane type of thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: This used to be a once a decade hurricane.
jarrod_dyke: Right, and so even more so.
Grumpy Old Prop: They never used to be this strong. They also never used to form in the Gulf. They would come across the Atlantic.
jarrod_dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Here they're they keep forming in the Gulf, which is not... um Good.
jarrod_dyke: The norm.
Grumpy Old Prop: And we've like, Hey, you remember that Gulf when it was on fire for like days? We have fucked with that.
jarrod_dyke: That too.
Grumpy Old Prop: The water's so warm there. Um, yeah, this isn't good. Like we, we really do need to do something about it.
jarrod_dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Unfortunately, we can't vote for it.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yay.
jarrod_dyke: No, not yet. At least, um,
Grumpy Old Prop: No, but maybe that'll, I mean, maybe when, you know, this, if people get get like fucking sick of sick of it enough. But unfortunately in our culture today, for so many Americans, and it's like access to everything that's going on in the world is just one of the, it's like gore porn for them.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, like, oh, look at, oh, look at that devastation in Florida. Like I'm glad that wasn't me, but it's like, um, you know, we don't get disaster movies anymore. We just get disaster reality. Like this shit used to be movies, like people trying to survive something like this.
Grumpy Old Prop: And now it's like, Oh, cool. We get to watch it in real life. This is fun. Not, Hey, we should, we should stop this.
jarrod_dyke: Nope.
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause we can.
jarrod_dyke: ah You should find a way to not make it happen. That'd be great.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah Hi.
jarrod_dyke: While it is. I know. I'm speaking of wild things over here apparently.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: but it's yeah like And it really comes down to like the greed and you know ah certain certain people portraying some scripture as man can do no wrong and can take whatever they want, which is unfortunately the fact.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, right.
jarrod_dyke: it's I wish that was like the most bogus bullshit I'm pulling out my butt, but it's also true.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, yeah, i you know, this is about no discrimination and I'm not discriminating against people who believe this.
Grumpy Old Prop: for their whatever their religious beliefs might be. I'm I'm saying this because it's fucking stupid. And just because it says in a book that the deity promised a dude that he would never destroy the earth again. That's a it's a book written by like goat herders.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's got some good stories and I'm not knocking it. Cause it, you know, some of it actually has, you know, good advice when it's not being completely contradicted. Um, and used for nefarious reasons.
jarrod_dyke: yeah No shit, right?
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, but it's like, that's, it's just, it's a book, you know, take it for what it is.
jarrod_dyke: It's a book written a long goddamn time ago with that.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah Yeah. Like, yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Science works, I promise.
Grumpy Old Prop: right And the guy who made that promise has kind of broken other promises but throughout the book too. So maybe you don't take him at his word either.
jarrod_dyke: did a lot of that yeah did a lot of that out there just just an idea just an idea anywho make sure that you grab our patreon um we uh like i did do the boom bust and i will do it again this week so that'll give everyone something some content to read And as soon as I have all the results, which might be in a moment, might be um tomorrow sometime. As soon as I have the results of PWR, I'm going to put that out there on the Patreon as well. So everyone can find that. There'll be a nice little docket um document out there with everyone scores, who they picked, so on and so forth. Don't worry, I have the master document so you can't fuck with it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, no, I'm just making sure I gave you all the ones that I got. and I'm pretty sure I did.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. um Anyway, speaking of PWR, let's talk game of the week. So fortune fortune favors us over here that have that do have TRN+. Also, I do like that TRN has been making one of the prime games free this year.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: So that's that's it that's a good move.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's that's classy.
jarrod_dyke: That's a good move.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that's a good move.
jarrod_dyke: And I know, ah yeah, and you know that's probably the best solution right now without being able to guarantee that Fox won't do that again.
Grumpy Old Prop: bet Much better than the the Fox Sports Partnership of last year.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: So for now, you know, and I, yeah, I told all my players, I'm like, Hey, listen, this game's on all you need is an account. It's free. Go watch it. um And I know, I know at least a few of them do so.
Grumpy Old Prop: Good, I should remind my players of that, too. I I just found out this weekend and it was a little late, so.
jarrod_dyke: Yep. That's right. So as long as we're all there, we can all get there in the end, but. Those that are on TRM plus get a PWR game of the week. And this week, ours was a duty cluster, Harper and Lester.
Grumpy Old Prop: Boring, boring.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Who knew?
Grumpy Old Prop: Where's the defense?
jarrod_dyke: Oh man.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, this was this was like just good old fashioned fun. I mean, well there's one of the scores that surprises me more than the other in the in the final.
jarrod_dyke: The 29.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's the 29.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Because they they made it a game for a while too.
jarrod_dyke: They did. They did. I think, I think that speak and there's, there's still players missing for both, but, um, I think there's still, and there's definitely still players missing for Lester. So it speaks well of where they could be this season.
jarrod_dyke: They won't live at even towards the end of last season.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mmhmm.
jarrod_dyke: They were, they were not an easy play by any means whatsoever. And this year they're gonna, they're obviously, you know, putting their hand up and saying, no, you will not just shove us aside.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: You're, you will have to play us hard.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mmhmm.
jarrod_dyke: So deal with it. So I'm i'm um happy despite the fact that there it's quite a lopsided score line, but it doesn't describe it doesn't tell the whole tale.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: i can I can tell you how much right now you and I were both watching it and like, ooh, this is interesting.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I think it was one of those that it um they kind of pulled away. Second half, it became unwieldy, like probably about a half what, starting about a half hour in.
jarrod_dyke: Yes, I did.
jarrod_dyke: Mm -hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: um If I'm not mistaken, oh, well, they did score right after half, but.
Grumpy Old Prop: That was kind of it. No, it was right at half when when
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, right before and then after it looks like these, uh, Gloucester scored three in the row from the 34th minute through to the, Oh no, all the way through to halftime. It was 40 plus plus two.
jarrod_dyke: Yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: So yeah, it was that little bit that, uh, kind of put the game away, but still 30 minutes. And it was like real good. And then, but it also took some fucking amazing tries.
Grumpy Old Prop: It wasn't like it was, they were just rolling through them.
jarrod_dyke: Emma Singh. Think she wants to she want an England contract?
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, that thought crossed my mind right about the time she was grabbing the ball and running between the two Lester players who somehow didn't go for it quickly enough.
jarrod_dyke: ah Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: yeah they Yeah, they got caught in the yours, mine, yours, mine, and Emma said, no, mine, no, no, no, mine, mine, don't worry.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. like but my I got it. Ladies, ladies, just chill.
jarrod_dyke: Just gonna take this.
Grumpy Old Prop: I got this.
Grumpy Old Prop: Don't you guys worry about it. I'll I'm on top of it.
jarrod_dyke: I will take care of this and just put, I'm gonna put it right over here underneath this, these posts.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, it looks happy there, I think.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Fucking hell. She was, she was amazing.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, she really was.
jarrod_dyke: I, I, you can't say, you can't say enough about her and, and and Charlie wouldn't have made it made a midlife hard on, on the other team as well. And that's Jesus. That's terrifying. Cause they aren't there.
jarrod_dyke: They have like, they have like nobody right now and.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: If she's just another weapon to add to their arsenal, it's fucking terrifying. Like, you know, there's no herd.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: There's no Mo. There's no George. There's yeah. Yeah. That's not fair. That's not nice.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. That's not nice at all. Anywho, but I, yeah. And then ah we.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it really was that Lester didn't have like, ultimately, and that's that kind of was kind of the difference is Gloucester Harbor, he had ah um more ammunition in the end.
jarrod_dyke: They did.
Grumpy Old Prop: Lester kind of ran out somewhat early, but at the same time, still, they they've got it now. They just have to build it a little bit. This is this. Yeah, this would have been ugly.
Grumpy Old Prop: What, two years ago, probably a little bit last year, Gloucester were good.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, definitely last year.
jarrod_dyke: I think we do need to give special mention mention to Zainab Eliba, the loose head for Lester, first woman to score while wearing her heat job, which is awesome.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, that was that was pretty cool.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, so good on her. Really awesome. So progress in many ways shape and shapes and forms. So go go go on Lester.
Grumpy Old Prop: It it takes a prop.
jarrod_dyke: Well done. Takes a prop to do the job, man.
jarrod_dyke: Especially with balls eating.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: And scoring tries.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. ah From from afo but a We have a friend that's very good at that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, hey,
jarrod_dyke: Scores like scores from ah half a meter at a time.
Grumpy Old Prop: i I don't know who you're talking about.
jarrod_dyke: You absolutely know what that is.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah Mr. Ewers. Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: No, no, ah you and I have a friend that does that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, yeah, we do.
jarrod_dyke: He does a certain dance and his name is Bill.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, he's fun when he scores and ah you know I still remember it for the longest time.
jarrod_dyke: Yup.
Grumpy Old Prop: He'd never scored one, though.
jarrod_dyke: Right, and then he scored like five in a row.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Wild stuff. Anyway, ah let's jump over to Friday night in the prem. Northampton and Quinn's. um
jarrod_dyke: You know, I'm, I'm sensing there's a problem when the twins have to play Jared Evans at 10.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I mean, I guess they really don't have anybody else.
jarrod_dyke: No, i they better not. I mean, no, I know it was like, they could slot Nick David back there if they wanted to.
Grumpy Old Prop: Because they can they because they they have no one else other than Marcus at 15. So he's got to go there. I don't know that they have anybody else who could possibly run that.
jarrod_dyke: And then he hasn't,
Grumpy Old Prop: They could.
jarrod_dyke: He hasn't played it for a long time, but still, I think he, I think, ah I think a week of training up, he'd, he'd be fine, honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, back in his Worcester days, he did.
jarrod_dyke: And that might be the better move. And I wouldn't be shocked if that's what they did this week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I would do that. That's a good call. I'd forgotten about that. That was so long ago.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, it's been a minute, but yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: That was back in the TRM days.
jarrod_dyke: Right. Right. Uh, but. i You gotta give credit to Northampton. They could've easily just said, ah, fuck, this game's on fire, and let you know just laid it down, and they did not, and they ah knew better.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, they didn't. They, they, they punched back and that's,
Grumpy Old Prop: Good, you know, they they haven't shown. An edge to them, really, they've shown, I mean, they've theyve what they.
jarrod_dyke: Northampton did, yes.
Grumpy Old Prop: They lost a bath, right week one. No, yeah, they lost a bath. They got kind of. Yeah, they got kind of thumpered and then the they they beat Exeter, but it should have been.
Grumpy Old Prop: Better.
jarrod_dyke: Yep. Agreed.
Grumpy Old Prop: um As we'll get into a little bit later in this episode.
jarrod_dyke: I think most people would agree with that.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Grumpy Old Prop: But yeah, like letting Harlequins get get a good lead on them and then fighting back, that's that's something that they hadn't shown yet this year.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's like, oh, look who's awake. And that's kind of scary.
jarrod_dyke: Look who woke up. Yeah. penalty. Try to Nick David, uh, and then, uh, then then the Graham try just kind of let things off slate scored.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: And then that was kind of the end. And I know.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm.
jarrod_dyke: I know Porter make it made it kind of surprise squeaky bum time, but really it was no.
Grumpy Old Prop: right it wasn't really i mean it was but it it was one of those like because because it's harlequin it could happen but let me it's still a fucking like better chance of getting hit by lighting i would take them over a lot of midfields
jarrod_dyke: Something like that. So yeah, and we you and I were talking about it the other day, like, you know, there's, There's issues in the midfield, although Anyanwu and Joseph isn't a terrible pairing by any means whatsoever.
jarrod_dyke: That's that's a good.
jarrod_dyke: Keniam is just a guy right now.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
jarrod_dyke: He he had potential, but he's he's just a guy right now.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: The locks aren't anything special though. If they were able to, I might put Launchbury and Lamb in there over the other two, honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Yeah, yes, Lambs, I don't know why is is he is he hurt?
jarrod_dyke: Maybe not the beast, but definitely your herbs. like
jarrod_dyke: You know, I think you put I thought he played this game or at least he was in the lineup Swore
Grumpy Old Prop: I just I just had I don't even I don't think I recognize that he'd come into the game.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, well Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, he was, okay. Yeah, he came on for Levis.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, he came in 55. Yeah, gee I mean we we know James Chisholm is famous for his his three cheeks, but like
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: At the same time, they're always going to be better off when James Chisholm's not the backup back row, if they can help it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Like, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: And against a team that recently, that just won the title, like this is not going to be a cakewalk.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Like again, and it's gonna come up again later. like just the where Harlequins are injury wise. I mean, like you said, if CCS is your your six and Dom brands the eight, just that alone.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Very different story.
jarrod_dyke: Makes a You said some okay games and he said some suspect games.
Grumpy Old Prop: And if Merle is available, so you're not starting Oscar fucking beard at 11. You kidding me? Like, that's the other problem is the Nick David's actually pretty good in space. Obviously, Marcus is too.
Grumpy Old Prop: But
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, Oscar Bearden is like to me, though, the worst of these backs. And you put him at one of the key attacking positions. You know, I. Like, look at the cross, the cross from him.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, but I think his best games have been at center and even them haven't been like, whoo.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's just been like, OK, hey, nice, nicely done.
jarrod_dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: As opposed to where the fuck were you like he kind of was this game.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, definitely. definite definitely
Grumpy Old Prop: So like, yeah, if if that if they just have Marley or Don Brandt in this game, very different story.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: But it is what it is. And honestly, good on the same things played well, like I said, shown some um showing some class that that back row is kind of scary to me.
jarrod_dyke: Well, the fact that truck's not even involved in this whole thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: And. Right.
jarrod_dyke: And we're still looking at a really good back row is like, and the, uh, the pollock kid looks like he's going to be a stud.
Grumpy Old Prop: That too.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm. Yeah, that's not fair.
jarrod_dyke: He really does. And they've been, they've been touting him for a wee bit and ah he looked, he looks the part thus far.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, I mean, it's fair. Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: I know he's got a lot more to prove, but thus far I test passed. So we'll see. Anywho, the other game Friday night up to the AJ Bell.
jarrod_dyke: I, I think there's, despite the fact that those, you know, maybe it wasn't the prettiest game in the world, but it was a good game nonetheless. 3127 solid scores from both teams.
jarrod_dyke: Um, I think it's good for both teams, honestly, to see, see this Gloucester still showing they can play even in in a really tough place to go. Or don't tell me that AJ Bell, it's not tough to go on a Friday night.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm No Yeah, you go if you told Gloucester again, what's one of those things if you told Gloucester before the season, you know if you kind of went down there Their record there, you know, they're there
jarrod_dyke: Nobody wants to go there on a Friday night.
jarrod_dyke: but list.
Grumpy Old Prop: their schedule so far, their season so far, and you got to this game and you said, you know what, you're gonna get two points away to sale. I think they'd be like, yeah, fuck yeah, okay, I'm good, I'll take it.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, it could be worse. It seems to come away with a lot less.
Grumpy Old Prop: A lot less, you know, some teams went away with zero this weekend. um So they're they're doing what they need to do to be in the position they need to be in, and sale, I'm still not terribly impressed, it's one of those like,
Grumpy Old Prop: You should have walked away with this one. And, you know, you they, they, they obviously got a good lead in. Um, Gloucester scored, you know, they, yeah they scored their last try to make it like late. Same thing as the, as the Quince, late squeaky bomb time.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, late squeaky bomb time, but not quite.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not quite. Um, still the fact that you let them, I mean, this team. I don't know if you're going to really rest on your, on your defense. You got to make sure that Gloucester don't score that, you know, they don't score twice late. You, you know, it's a point you used to be a point of pride. You know, when I was growing up, sale sharks made it a point of pride not to give up 27 points at home.
jarrod_dyke: Alexander's to me at a point of ride, not to give up 27 points at home.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. So I'm very, he's confusing me. I gotta say.
jarrod_dyke: I, yeah, I don't know. um
Grumpy Old Prop: I thought he would, I thought he would be bad. I thought he would have this team better than this. And look, you know, it's, you scored 31 points in a win and that's like 31 points for sales sales actually pretty good. I'll give him that.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, with with Bobby dupes and Sam Betlow in the lineup, Bobby dupes at 10 and Betlow at 12.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Somehow it was good enough. So good on you.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: um Gus Ward's try was actually kind of cool. Fuck.
jarrod_dyke: Words that really rarely ever escape.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
jarrod_dyke: um
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: I think there's a couple of players that we haven't talked about enough and I did actually give one of them a shot of them later on. Williams and and Llewellyn especially, I think are are have been exceptional.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm. Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: We talked about Barton already have who's also been pretty good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: um but max alone, like a center, but making life hard for teams on the wing.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, yes.
jarrod_dyke: So I give him credit. Um, that's yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's like an anti -beard. He doesn't matter where you put him, he's just gonna make plays.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. So he's, he's looking like he's going to be hard to remove from that, that Gloucester lineup. And there's going to be some, some bodies coming back soon too. So it's going to be interesting to see what decisions are made by skips here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: I'm very interested to see what's going on with that.
jarrod_dyke: um Saturday. Down to the wreck. The big one for these boys. Wow. I color me impressed by the bears.
jarrod_dyke: Really? Like going out there going to go into the wreck.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: You grab a bonus point and you deny them a losing bonus point on top of that like Yeah, I wouldn't I did not have that on my bingo board.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm. Yep.
jarrod_dyke: Nope. not not Not a chance.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Not a
Grumpy Old Prop: Again, same the same thing as you talk about with Gloucester, if you gave Bristol this season, even this, the what they lost to Gloucester at home.
Grumpy Old Prop: But. There were punching a well above their weight, as they did here. um
Grumpy Old Prop: it's And it's amazing um to actually, you know, it's cool to see Santiago Grandona in the prem. um Where's he been the last like, why? I mean, that's cool that they they finally signed him to, you know, into the prem.
jarrod_dyke: He was hurt last year. We know that. We know that.
Grumpy Old Prop: Wait, where was he last year?
jarrod_dyke: He was, he was with Bristol. He was hurt the previous years. He spent wasting away on the books of Exeter.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, oh, so some of those salary cap things.
jarrod_dyke: Must be over fucking Dave, yours.
Grumpy Old Prop: like they They couldn't find a place for him on the field. I see i see how it goes. because You need to see more day viewers than that. What we just saw against Beth.
jarrod_dyke: My fat ass. ah Oh, yeah, bloody hell. and And he was very good for the Pumas as well during the rugby championship. So, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's scary. if If Bristol got another... and it Well, no there's no, it doesn't seem like there's an if about it. Bristol have yet another weapon in their... um and Right.
jarrod_dyke: Well, and they have his they have his kid brother too.
Grumpy Old Prop: i mean and they still Then they still have Mata to come like when he gets healthy.
jarrod_dyke: Silly.
jarrod_dyke: Yes, they do.
Grumpy Old Prop: like
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: this is Now it's time to start like considering if if Bristol are making a run for it.
jarrod_dyke: I'd like to think so. I mean, the way they play, they're they're gonna, they're gonna make it fun, number one. I'd say the one thing that's gonna hold them back is they need McGinty healthy the whole time.
Grumpy Old Prop: True, although I still think they might be able to do it with Williams, but he's not healthy so
jarrod_dyke: ah I think that's where the wheels come off. No, yeah, now that that that's also now a double problem. I don't love Williams is 10. So what I've seen of him do there.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, not I mean, I don't love him, but he can he can like he can do the job of distribution. And when you've got.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, they're gonna have to make some games ugly if he's playing 10. That's all I know.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah Likely, but as long as he's he's dealing a little bit, there's they just have playmakers in so many spots.
jarrod_dyke: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: So.
jarrod_dyke: Bet. Johnson, Ben Renzberg. You must have heard me talking last week because I did not.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: I was not terribly impressed with him. um On the other side.
jarrod_dyke: Introducing Sam Harris.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm hi Sam Yeah, a little bit Yeah
jarrod_dyke: Hell of an introduction, kid. I think I think you're going to be around for a while. You keep doing crap like that.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. pretty I was like, well, number one, it was terrible. I was like, this is right down this kid's gullet. All he's got to do is turn and run. And he found a hole and like they were talking about it on the broadcast.
jarrod_dyke: like Nobody could play him. All the Bristol players were offsides. Like, yeah, like yeah I can't touch them.
Grumpy Old Prop: and
jarrod_dyke: And upside of that law being and the being reinforced now and no longer having that loophole.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And put it this way. we you If you've listened to us before, you know that um we have a healthy respect for ah Tom to Glanville as a as a runner.
Grumpy Old Prop: And when I was watching this, I had it on the small screen. First off, um I was relegated to that because my my wife dictated so.
Grumpy Old Prop: um And yeah.
jarrod_dyke: That happens.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I had the volume down a little bit too, because I don't really need to listen to the comms. I thought it was De Glanville running that kickback. chris for us First off, the hair is is excellent too. um Love the lettuce flowing in the and the breeze as you're cutting back and forth to the defense.
Grumpy Old Prop: And then I was like, oh shit, no, that's the newbie newbie.
jarrod_dyke: Mr. Pup, that's the better.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's the puppy. Yeah. All right. That's cool. That's even better. Although I was not happy because one of the reasons that I wanted it to be Tom De Glanville was because I started him this week. So.
jarrod_dyke: Same.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah
jarrod_dyke: Same. It's like, well, silver lining, it was pretty awesome.
Grumpy Old Prop: there's There's a little bit of personal, you know, want, yeah, yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Silver lining, it was, it was pretty awesome.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right, I got to see a really cool play. I just, I don't get any points for it, motherfucker. Cause it's also, he's wearing 15.
jarrod_dyke: Lame.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's like, I just, for some reason I knew Dick Glenville was starting, but I just forgot that he was at 14.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. um
jarrod_dyke: I'm um concerned that nobody from Bath really showed up for this match. Bar like two guys.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm concerned with the decision to go for a six, two split.
jarrod_dyke: I'm always concerned with that. I fucking hate that Saracens have been doing it lately.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: um
Grumpy Old Prop: But this against Bristol, like, you know, that like, again, do some, did I don't know how much scouting is actually done in this league. Um.
jarrod_dyke: Sometimes you wonder.
Grumpy Old Prop: Because like, what are you thinking? They're gonna want to run on you. And I don't think and think in any way, Bath really like physically kind wasn't wasn't like, you know, when you want to like, when you go to a team like sale, and you're like, you know, we got to we got to beef up a little bit, because they're packed, we know they're gonna mall, we know what they're gonna like, be extremely me physical, like, you would think that
jarrod_dyke: Hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: If you're going to go six to his bath, you want to create that kind of situation. But instead, you've got like.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, look, Hill, Reed and Pepper can all hit hard, but that's different from being like the mauling, brutish, physical, you know, they're better runners.
jarrod_dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's like you're you're kind of trying to have it both ways. You want to be a running team, but you also want to be a six to you want to be a forward based team. And they didn't do that very well.
jarrod_dyke: No.
jarrod_dyke: and lot And you know, last week they got bit, but like you really can't say.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: That that was what bit like, you can't say that not having enough forward was a bit of actually, I'm pretty sure it was not having enough back to a little bit them.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: because they had, what, two backs, three backs drop almost immediately.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, right. Well.
jarrod_dyke: Neither of them was Spencer.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm sorry.
jarrod_dyke: not And neither one of them was Spencer, so having a backup nine didn't really do them that much good.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's again, McConaughey and Harris both, you know, well, the kind of, he came off at 70 minutes, but either way, he's coming off at 70 minutes for Louis Schruder. You're taking off like, and you know, red path is a good player.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I kind of get that switch, but it's still, it's your fullback. I'm guessing that was injury. I i don't remember at this point, but yep.
jarrod_dyke: I think they, I think they, I think they wanted to protect Harris and just like keep them feeling good.
Grumpy Old Prop: and Okay. But it's, then it's, then have a third sub that's a back.
jarrod_dyke: Uh -huh. Yep. Not arguing.
Grumpy Old Prop: like Did you know did cozia dude, you know, did he swore did he swore a try?
jarrod_dyke: Not arguing.
jarrod_dyke: No, Maloney did.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay But it's like yeah I think it was last week he scored one but either way like I don't know. Do you really need him?
Grumpy Old Prop: Like Maloney for Quinn Roo Like right Maloney makes sense on the bench.
jarrod_dyke: I think you don't need both him and under Hill and Maloney on the bench.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm good with that. Underhill makes sense. Well, I as nuts as this talented back row is. Yeah, Underhill makes sense on the bench and coming in for Guy Pepper. And then it's like, Reed and Hill can him last the game if you're gonna take Pepper out.
Grumpy Old Prop: So you're good. You've got guys who can run all to 80.
jarrod_dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Have ah have a bat another back sub because they really needed it.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, that's but unfortunately, that's Van Grond's ML these days is going for that 6 .2 split when it's not always necessary.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. No.
jarrod_dyke: Anyway, let's go up to Kingston real quick. We don't need to spend a ton of time up here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Did you learn anything from this match?
jarrod_dyke: No, I learned that Newcastle continuously find ways to shoot themselves in the foot. And that's, yeah, Lester or have good players and they did what good players do.
jarrod_dyke: Ollie Justin was actually very good in this match.
Grumpy Old Prop: who Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Um, good to see him back. Uh, really. And, uh, I'm, I'm still a big fan of Illiana. So, you know, love seeing when he gets out there. So, but really how much honestly, it gives, I will say that they did.
Grumpy Old Prop: He played well, had himself a try.
jarrod_dyke: Lester did some smart things by getting Joe Woodward in there, who's, you know, this was his debut, he's getting some time.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: I don't know how the juice on hold just saying guys, but he's very old. So got him some some minutes, wand, same thing.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm. Yep.
jarrod_dyke: You know, so I will say, I really tear my hair out when I see we, you know, Newcastle or crap, like the we truly know it.
jarrod_dyke: Just as 23. So we truly know that Newcastle is crap, and they'll bite something that sends them the binge juice one day, not won't be ah won't be a first.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm. Maybe I don't know. I think like I said, there's I still think they're going to beat the shit out of themselves. Like I still think Sammy Arnold is going to be like dog meat by um December.
jarrod_dyke: He might be. Yeah, they better trade him out when they get to those challenge cup matches, honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: And Gordon's. Right. And Gordon's looked good, but I know.
jarrod_dyke: He's got no help.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I think he got way overmatched this game. He was like all alone.
jarrod_dyke: Well, that back row was not fun to go against, so.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: No, that's not when I would sign up for.
Grumpy Old Prop: And when he also, you all you have is Vanderbilt and who he did something stupid and I can't remember what it was, but he said something completely stupid.
jarrod_dyke: Check.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, and then Callum chick who I don't, I don't get it.
jarrod_dyke: He's a Newcastle boy, that's all I keep saying and I don't know if that's enough to keep him in the lineup Yeah,
Grumpy Old Prop: Don't, don't get it.
Grumpy Old Prop: and It's like, if he's a new castle type player, you guys need to aspire to better players. Let's put it that way. Or being, being better at rugby.
jarrod_dyke: yeah I think you I think you need to find if you need to find a space for him in the lineup I think he needs to go to sex I Think or lock or lock but you know sex is acceptable for me.
jarrod_dyke: I And then you need to find yourself a proper number eight because I don't think he's it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Anywho, I think there was another match.
jarrod_dyke: There was one and it was on Sunday and um, my kid was looking at me wondering what the fuck I was doing half the match because a lot of it involved getting up and down and pumping my fists.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah Yeah, I think we were were texting before the match because it was like. I mean, this is all this was. Exeter versus Exeter, I'm not sorry, Saracens versus Saracens, really, if if Saracens like were in their own head. And playing it tight. um They could have lost this match. And if they decide, you know, what we're going to throw it around, we're going to have a little fun. Once again, Exeter cannot match that they just can't.
Grumpy Old Prop: And we saw pretty early that though, Saris were going to go for it. They were going to, they were going to play it, you know, with width and and really attack this team. And at that point I was like, okay, cool. We can enjoy today.
Grumpy Old Prop: We can enjoy today's game.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: This is this going to be a fun one.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Well, there was really for me a rewind to Saracen's team of like legend where they, yes, they kicked the leather off the ball sometimes, but what they did was they fought for the little scraps.
jarrod_dyke: And when they won those little scraps, they did some magical shit with the ball. And that is what made Saracen very, very good, you know, four or five years ago.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: And that's what made people fucking hate Saracen's because
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: They, you know, they made life hard on you, obviously, defense, forget it, like Jesus Christ defense is defenses back. um but really, you know, yes, they spun the ball around and they played it with it, but also when they won the one, they won the scraps.
jarrod_dyke: They did the same thing. They, they knew the advantages to take. They knew either. All right. Kicking behind and make these guys work hard or the spaces wide. Just shoot that ball wide and let's go.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: And they, they, they read it so well for the majority of this game and just made life really hard on exit or bar the fricking, you know, the two moments that got them the two tries from Hodge.
jarrod_dyke: Like I, don't know ah how good I would feel if I was an Exeter fan. And I mean that as the most sincere way without any malice or hate.
jarrod_dyke: Yes, I fucking hate this team for a lot of reasons. But looking at that objectively, I don't know how good I would feel after this match if I was an Exeter fan.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's like, well, yeah, they can't even be proper villains at this point.
jarrod_dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: um
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I mean, look, when, so here's, here's my question off of this is, is Baxter, is Baxter cooked?
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: And the reason that I asked that, and and and by by that, I mean, is, is he may be on the hot seat and maybe it's not,
jarrod_dyke: No, because Tony Rowe loves him, but he should be.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm not saying now, I'm not saying right now, it's more like, is he on watch? Like is there, if there are a chance where if if this doesn't get better by the end of the season, his ass is out.
jarrod_dyke: Maybe that's the way to go with it.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's not gonna be a mid -season, he's not gonna get fired mid -season.
jarrod_dyke: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: They would never do that. Or would, I mean, at the very least, maybe the the decision is made not to renew his contract whenever that that may be.
jarrod_dyke: Whenever that comes up, yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's like you're playing out the string kid, or old man. um Because, and the reason I say that is, usually coaches like him, with his kind of record. And you see it in the NFL a lot.
jarrod_dyke: Mmhmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's much more obvious in the NFL. um They have a lot of juice with like the comms guys, because you know, and they they see you see them all the time. They've they've been there for you know, how long has Baxter been there like
jarrod_dyke: Way too long.
Grumpy Old Prop: way too long. So, you know, Austin Healy knows him. They're not like, I would assume they're on good terms, especially because Healy's usually like praising him and and kind of given his perspective on things.
Grumpy Old Prop: And in this game, Healy was like, well, wait, they were looking at the breakdown and they're like, okay, so they've, you know, they've made something like, I don't remember what it was. It was like 50 carries for 70 meters or something like that from the, the Exeter pack.
Grumpy Old Prop: It was something like stupid like that.
jarrod_dyke: Silly.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm not, ah I really don't think I'm exaggerating by much. But I might be who knows.
jarrod_dyke: Nope. I'll do you either.
Grumpy Old Prop: But the point being, I think because I think it was like less than it was certainly like it was a yard and a meter and a half a carry or something like that. And he's like, well, maybe it's just that they're really burning through their forwards. They're just making them run at brick walls.
Grumpy Old Prop: They're not really using them in space or, or attacking with any sort of width that I'm like, I'm this whole time I'm listening. I'm like, like, dude, either it took you like 10 years to notice or yeah, like the guy who
jarrod_dyke: You saying the quiet part out loud big guy.
Grumpy Old Prop: You know, maybe you had, had tried to help make it into a genius. You're kind of, that's the like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not with that anymore. Um, yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, expiration date is hit.
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause when even Austin Healy's saying like this guy, this, this game plan sucks. Like that's, that's a red flag.
jarrod_dyke: Should be a red flag.
Grumpy Old Prop: So I'm just saying that flag is up for me.
jarrod_dyke: ah Baxter's been with the club since 2009.
Grumpy Old Prop: and I don't make sure to see where it goes. Fuck.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. I think this was his first coaching job.
jarrod_dyke: So, and they've, they've come up through.
jarrod_dyke: the championship, and so on and so forth. And I have a point to make about Baxter, but I'll make it later.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, well, you know spoiler alert
jarrod_dyke: um
jarrod_dyke: yeah But to your point about the forwards, like, I don't know if I'd put any of these forwards in space, bar, capstick, or fissile.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, even roots fucking blows.
jarrod_dyke: Roots is a moron. What the fuck he's doing in the England team, I have no idea.
Grumpy Old Prop: He's so he's he's not good. great And chunza. I remember when there was potential. I remember when it was like, wow, this guy could be say what like,
jarrod_dyke: I'm used to get the fuck away from there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, like in a Zeke way is he could be, he could have, I mean, maybe not that like he's huge. Um, maybe even a Theo though, you could, ah you could, he could have been like one of those, you could play a lock, you could play loose, you could just be damaging all around the field.
Grumpy Old Prop: And he's kind of like turned into an Ethan roots or a vermule. He's turned into just a, uh, like a railroad spike, like what?
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. When they said, uh, we, we, they need for me a little, like, that's not really the answer.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, it's really not.
jarrod_dyke: They need guys really isn't, I think.
Grumpy Old Prop: You see, that's the kind of thing that that's like, that's, um that's Rob Baxter talking through the comms, when they say shit like that, that you know, is just like, what the fuck?
jarrod_dyke: Hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's not comms saying that that's, that's, you know, in a pre pregame, like interview, whatever, he's like, Yeah, you know, we really, we really do this for a meal or something like that.
jarrod_dyke: Hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, don't say it. But you know, that didn't come from me. But You know, that's ah that, you know, can use that as a point, but it's like, no, you don't, you need, do you need to coach your team better?
jarrod_dyke: No. Uh -huh.
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause they don't, they can't play in space.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: They couldn't, how many times did Fayo Oboso touch you touch the ball?
jarrod_dyke: Well, here's the thing. um Did Saracens expose their only their only possible game plan right now, which is lead on Feiwoboso and hope for the best.
Grumpy Old Prop: Uh -huh.
jarrod_dyke: Because if we just answered, all right, make someone else beat us, you know Hodge could, and he did twice, but that's all he did.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, he did twice. Right.
jarrod_dyke: He did twice and that was the that was it. nobody else could Nobody else on this team can create shit. And I'm sorry, Slade ain't gonna be the answer either.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. No, he's not.
jarrod_dyke: So what do we do? What do we like what is gonna be your answer, guys? like I think there's a huge deficiency in the team overall.
jarrod_dyke: And again, I want to get into it a little bit later, but like to say that at the very least, I think is probably being honest.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And it stopped.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, because as we said earlier, it's not it's not the players because they've got players who can play. I think Will Hayden would could be a hell of a 10.
jarrod_dyke: Feel bad for him.
Grumpy Old Prop: if if he was in a good situation, if they were in a had a real like attacking structure and plan, other than, okay, we're gonna run two forward crashes, and then if that doesn't get us on the front foot quickly, then we're gonna just boot the ball away.
jarrod_dyke: He got lost.
Grumpy Old Prop: We're gonna do a nice, slow box kick.
jarrod_dyke: yeah Yeah, here's the thing Yeah, like you don't even want to do anything at that ruck cuz you're just like whatever like Monder doesn't have anything Karen's doesn't have anything None of these guys have anything
Grumpy Old Prop: Everybody knows that now, so they're not even gonna, you're just gonna give them the ball back? Oh, hell yeah, all right, we can play this game.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. um
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Because, you know, and that it's when they force it wide, when they try to just throw shit at the wall, that's when you get the turnover. Everybody knows like it's it's too.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's too with way too one dimensional, not even two, let alone three.
jarrod_dyke: Mm hmm. Good. Yeah, it's probably nice, honestly.
Grumpy Old Prop: So, yeah.
jarrod_dyke: All right. Power rankings, 10 Newcastle.
Grumpy Old Prop: Newcastle.
jarrod_dyke: out Nine Exeter.
Grumpy Old Prop: Exeter.
jarrod_dyke: I think it's I think it's all I think it's really obvious at this point until they pull their collective heads out of their collective asses.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Um, we had Gloucester eight last week. Did they move up?
Grumpy Old Prop: They did move up.
jarrod_dyke: Okay. So Lester's down to seven or Lester down to eight or somebody else down there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Lester is not moved, um so I guess so sale and gloss are flip flopped.
jarrod_dyke: Okay.
jarrod_dyke: Oh, interesting.
Grumpy Old Prop: Again, this is because it was sale at home. should It should have been a ah bigger blowout. Gloucester are showing some fight. They're scared. They're they're like and not the best or the worst team, but they might be the most dangerous.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's like six kind of in the middle, because you never know. like You flip a coin, you don't know what you're getting. It could be and you know kind of an easier win, but it could be a, oh, fuck.
jarrod_dyke: Mm -hmm Yeah Quinn Yeah Quinn's in Saints flip -flop I assume If they weren't already Quinn's at five.
Grumpy Old Prop: We've got to pull our heads out, because I can't sleep against them. Sail, you can play a certain style and exploit.
Grumpy Old Prop: I have quins at five.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, I think I think oh, yeah. Okay. Never mind. Nope.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I think they stay the same.
jarrod_dyke: I Think I think I originally had them that way and then we went the other way. Anywho, um, just pass fall three Two, okay
Grumpy Old Prop: Two.
jarrod_dyke: So that means Bristol still remain three.
Grumpy Old Prop: Bristol are at four for me. Northampton, Rose. Northampton are like, oh.
jarrod_dyke: Northampton Rose impressive. Okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: um um do They have my attention now. And again, because you have, it's yeah.
jarrod_dyke: You have my attention.
Grumpy Old Prop: They did some okay things last year. So, um, if they start showing that kind of resolve and, and attacking intent, yeah, they could, that, that defense, you can fix the defense as the season goes on Bristol.
jarrod_dyke: and
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like. If they keep doing what they're doing, it's going to be hard to keep them lower than that, but that's just the, you know, Saracens are one because fuck, they're the only doing top team, not pissing points away.
Grumpy Old Prop: They're like, no, let's take five. We'll take five. We'll take five. Like.
jarrod_dyke: right i I would break your arm off if you just told me that we were going to have 15 out of 15 off the bat.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Right. And it's it's beyond now it's beyond. um And it's also to to kind of um bugaboo teams with ah sale and exit or who nipped them, you know, one late one early last year.
jarrod_dyke: Mm hmm. Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: And Sarah's like, you know what? Fuck this. Why are we wrestling with a pig? Let's just outclass them. And that that is what.
Grumpy Old Prop: To me, gets them it excites me, but it also gets them up to one.
jarrod_dyke: So we pick
Grumpy Old Prop: Cause it's like, if they're going to play that way, if they're going to play every match that way, they're going to come away with the one seed. Like they'll lose some, of course, cause some, you know, some of these teams might be better than them on a day, but they're going to win enough to, to, to get number one.
jarrod_dyke: Not bad so far. Let me clave hard, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: ah Those that outdid themselves this week. Any nominations?
Grumpy Old Prop: You, you kind of linked to it or ah alluded to it earlier, but for me, it was the Gloucester nine, 10, 15 axis.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, Thomas Williams, for sure. We talked about Barton already.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
jarrod_dyke: And Anscombe's not doing anything special, but he's not fucking things up, so.
Grumpy Old Prop: You scoring tries.
jarrod_dyke: He did score one the other week that we kind of glossed over accidentally and that was, that I hit myself later on.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, which was.
jarrod_dyke: I was like, damn it, we should have talked about that try because it was, it was a bit of class from the both of those guys.
Grumpy Old Prop: It was so, I mean, they're, they're, it's working. Williams is like, yeah, Williams and, and Anscombe are working well together.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: So.
jarrod_dyke: Williams, I think he's showing that he is at least better than Varney and not to say that we don't like Steven Varney, but you know, you know, there's other.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Hell I like ankle field too, but.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, there's other guys that could be at this nine position that probably should have taken another step and didn't and that's that was that has been holding Gloucester back a little bit at least.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: I think most people would agree.
jarrod_dyke: Non -premiership nomination. Shay McCarthy for Munster. Eight seconds into the game.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: I was watching this game. I was like, oh, I guess I don't need to go get a beer.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. ah
jarrod_dyke: I was about to, and that happened. I was like, holy shit. I mean, it was a total flop job from the phrase, but like, yeah hey, Johnny on the spot, right place, right time, good things happen.
Grumpy Old Prop: yeah
jarrod_dyke: So that that's like, Ookie.
Grumpy Old Prop: i the To me, the funnier thing is is whose record he broke.
jarrod_dyke: Was it Zeebuzz?
Grumpy Old Prop: No, it's Dougie Fife.
jarrod_dyke: Oh God.
jarrod_dyke: That's right.
Grumpy Old Prop: So it's just like, wait, Dougie, Dougie had that record like when that's wild.
jarrod_dyke: Teach me how to Dougie.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, right. Absolutely nuts. We've acknowledged Thomas Williams. Any other nominations?
Grumpy Old Prop: I know I just had those three.
jarrod_dyke: Just those three. um I want to throw Roebuck a shout. I know he's had a rough start to the year, but obviously got himself a pair this weekend, so well done.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Vicki Lafflin, Ealing Trail Finders.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, OK, yep.
jarrod_dyke: Making life hard on the Saracens women.
Grumpy Old Prop: That I'd say the whole Trail Finders team shit.
jarrod_dyke: Really, but I mean, the backline in particular and and in particular, Vicki Lafflin.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: So well done to her. Um, shot the bed.
Grumpy Old Prop: Greg Fissello.
jarrod_dyke: Did not pass his nominate his audition for, he should be in the England team over roads too.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, I was I was being like, OK, I really wanted it.
jarrod_dyke: So it's like, I did too.
Grumpy Old Prop: I really wanted to see something from even though it was against Saris. I'm like, OK, cool. Like they have capstick and. um And fissile like maybe they'll try some, no, no, of course not.
jarrod_dyke: No, I mean, well,
Grumpy Old Prop: No, we're going to feature Ethan roots instead because that's what you do.
jarrod_dyke: belan um
jarrod_dyke: Can someone please find out who the impostor is that's wearing that blue scrum cap and wearing number eight for Gloucester because it's sure as fuck is not Zack Mercer. Like where the fuck did this guy go?
Grumpy Old Prop: i I think he's already back to France in his head.
jarrod_dyke: may I possibly, possibly.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think he's just fucked this place. i'll like i'll um I don't think his heart is in it right now.
jarrod_dyke: you So in that case, you may not be shocked to see a movement season.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I hope that's not the case. I hope he he shows up because that makes them even more dangerous. but
jarrod_dyke: Right. Um, Billy Millard, Quinn's coach, you know, rolling Marcus out at 15. I know you got to do what you get to do some time, but you also have to know when to pull the record and be like, ah Jared, this is kind of shoot shooting us in the foot right now.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: We probably need to get, probably need to make some changes here.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Whatever those changes are, make them, make them.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'd also.
jarrod_dyke: Um, yeah, honestly, if, if they're that desperate for back three players, make a loan call, call someone up.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: That's that's got a spare outside back that is not seeing a lot of time, but can do the job and get them in.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: You know, I know it's, I know injury cover is not ideal when you have to make that call, but you gotta do it.
Grumpy Old Prop: Fucking isn't good around throw him over there. I'd love it. I would don't don't care get him over No, no Alex good Yeah, I don't care yeah I Know I'm just fucking No Um, yeah my My other shot the bed is young van grand
jarrod_dyke: Oh God. Um, Oh ours. No mine. Also don't go, he's not going to that team. Not going to that team.
jarrod_dyke: No, no, no, not that I, not that that's the team I hate, but still that they're not going to send him to that team. Um, I had bath back row.
jarrod_dyke: So sounds like bath had a, had a tough day.
Grumpy Old Prop: Fair enough. But that's, that's rough. Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Sounds like bath had a tough day. Just the same. Um, so ref coach, young player of the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. My ref is oddly enough, Matt Carley.
jarrod_dyke: Same, same, I thought he did a wonderful job. And he's become, I know, ah last week we did not.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's weird that we've agreed on these, like, I think all, all every week so far.
jarrod_dyke: I had Pierce again and you had CMK.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay. Oh. Yeah, that's right. And only because I didn't want to give it a pierce every week.
jarrod_dyke: But two out of three. Yeah, two out of three. But ah you know, and I've been a big critic of Matt Carley, but he's honestly made himself a better referee. You know, I think that's just, that's very clear.
jarrod_dyke: It's one of the things that we crave when we watch a referee come into the league and just like, found her around a little bit and when they reach international honors, we want them to be worthy of it.
jarrod_dyke: Was he 100 % worthy of it? Eh, maybe, maybe not. Has he become worthy of it? Yes, absolutely.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, I'd say so.
jarrod_dyke: Hands down. So, um good on him.
Grumpy Old Prop: And because it used to be like, he'd come in making a call, which was like, bass act words wrong. And just with that same like stern, like I saw no, no, no, no, like i that that look on his face.
jarrod_dyke: Oh, totally. It's like nothing pisses you off more when a guy's a dickhead and he's wrong.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. And And now he's making these, he's kind of doing the, he has the same demeanor, the demeanor hasn't changed, but he's making much better calls.
jarrod_dyke: No. Mm -hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: Um, or at least, um, he's, he's being consistent throughout the game, which is much more important.
jarrod_dyke: At the minimum.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's, it's almost as important as making good calls.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: So when he comes in and it's like, you have that, you know, especially when you're, um, a neutral, it's like, oh yeah, he made that right. Okay. Yeah. He can, he can go a little bit.
jarrod_dyke: Mm -hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's a good call. Good job. Like, and yeah, he's kind of earning that grimace.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, especially when you look at it, you're like, I need to see this again, did he get this right?
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: And you see it again, you're like, fuck, you got it right, all right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Had it right?
jarrod_dyke: Keep on moving then.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yep.
jarrod_dyke: um I think so.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I think he had a good, didn't he have a good um progression on ah on a ah head hit? I think there was there was like some something where he really got it right and it was like, I think was it like incidental or I can't remember.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, it was the one where um
jarrod_dyke: Dude.
Grumpy Old Prop: There was the late, it was on, fuck, who was the wing?
jarrod_dyke: david
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, it was on Nick David, that's right. Cause somebody stepped like right back into him.
jarrod_dyke: say at home. Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Yep.
Grumpy Old Prop: And so I was like, yeah, that's a high tackle.
jarrod_dyke: That's what it was.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: That was the penalty try.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: That was the penalty try. Didn't, didn't send him off off, but knew it was a card, especially for the reason of, especially for the reason of he stopped to try.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, or maybe it was another, yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: So Nope,
Grumpy Old Prop: I was thinking of a different one, but um probably just not from this match.
jarrod_dyke: probably not. Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: sort the Whatever ref made a really good um yellow card or no card, I think, assessment at one point. um I liked that. and I can't remember which game it was or which ref.
Grumpy Old Prop: So.
jarrod_dyke: It'll come to you.
Grumpy Old Prop: No, well, um I'm past it already.
jarrod_dyke: Uh, coach.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mark McCall. He's letting the boys be the boys. And um I think he's almost letting Fergus Burke be like, you know, bring what you brought with, you know, bring the Crusaders with you.
Grumpy Old Prop: Like, we need some of that kind of style here.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I think there was no accident that they signed him um because that's the style they're playing.
jarrod_dyke: Well, something will be good.
Grumpy Old Prop: And it's that's I like it. And it's going to win him a lot of games.
jarrod_dyke: Yep. Adapting to his, to his strengths.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: That's what you should do as a good team.
jarrod_dyke: Uh, I went Pat Lamb.
Grumpy Old Prop: Also a quality candidate.
jarrod_dyke: Going to, going to bath and and having your boys put in that type of performance after the week before where it was so fucking disappointing on the way they lost. Just bouncing back against your archribals. You've got him, he got him up, he got him focused and you got him a big old dub down in bath. So good on him. Young player.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah We talked about a little bit, Sam Harris.
jarrod_dyke: Same. Same. Introduced himself to everybody this weekend. My name is Sam Harris. I play fullback and wing for Bath, and you're going to see me for a little while probably.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's like, and yes, you do. And yes, we will.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. Try the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Emma Singh.
jarrod_dyke: Same.
Grumpy Old Prop: It was, yeah.
jarrod_dyke: We talked about it at the beginning of the pod. Girls, just stay put. I got this. No worries.
Grumpy Old Prop: Don't stress yourself.
jarrod_dyke: but I'll take care of this thing and I'll give it back to you later.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: Uh, shit. Um, player of the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Santi Grondona.
jarrod_dyke: I went, I went for someone, same team.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, great.
jarrod_dyke: um want gay bo right I I really, and so without getting too deep into the England squad, I really wish they would like find space for him in the England squad because.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. I mean, he had a, he played well.
jarrod_dyke: For you know the Australia World Cup coming up, you're not gonna bring both George and LCD.
Grumpy Old Prop: No.
jarrod_dyke: I think if Jinx makes it that far, he'll be lucky if we're honest.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: So you need a a younger stable. you know You're not gonna take Tom Dunn. You're probably not gonna take Blomire. You might take Jack Walker. But I think in terms of what Agree offers over somebody like Walker, it's the it's not you can't match it.
Grumpy Old Prop: A lot. Significantly.
jarrod_dyke: You can't match it. So I hope, I hope he gets, I hope he gets to do soon. Honestly. Dick of the week.
Grumpy Old Prop: Rob Baxter.
jarrod_dyke: Same.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah No, it's just
jarrod_dyke: All right. Here's the thing. He wasn't a dick this week in particular. but he's getting it because let's be honest, he's done a dog shit job of preparing for this team for when they had the team before that was very good.
jarrod_dyke: And trust me, that's coming out of my mouth.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: It doesn't taste very good, but they were very good. There's no way around it. Uh, but he's done a dog shit job in preparing them for, uh, for a life afterwards. Like you're telling me you were leaning on Ian Whitten this whole fucking time.
jarrod_dyke: Like you can't tell me that Joe Simmons and and Sam Simmons.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Yes. All right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Yep. You know, and really he didn't, I don't think he advocated very well for his players to Eddie, but grant Eddie's an idiot. So that's a different story for a different day. Um,
Grumpy Old Prop: Well, I mean, he's doing something because I don't, I still don't get how roots gets, I don't get it, but well, that there's
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. I think both those guys head up his ass. That's a different, you have a higher opinion of both with than I do.
Grumpy Old Prop: that.
jarrod_dyke: So that's another thing. Um, yeah, like, um, you know, they they were comparing the two, the two rebuilds on TV.
jarrod_dyke: Really? You look at what we lost. We lost the better polis. We lost the wings, which I, you know, I love Sean Maitland, but thank God.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: And Lewington same thing. Thank God I'm okay with letting them go, like letting them be gone.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm. Right.
jarrod_dyke: Um, I, all this time I thought we're Timmy Shagan should have been playing way more and he got a little bit more time last year and now he's getting the job says, um, and then we lost.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, the job says. And Tobias Elliott seems to be like, here's the that's the other thing is like when they lost those guys and they didn't really sign a winger.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: I mean, we know they have got Sinti still coming too. but you're like, well, what the fuck are they gonna do? And it's like, well, oh, they have Tobias Elliott.
Grumpy Old Prop: There you go. Have you know have have have a steaming hot load of him.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: Whereas with Exeter, you were you were playing Stuart Hogg at his like, stueart hogggie last least Stuart Hoggie ever.
jarrod_dyke: Worse.
Grumpy Old Prop: ah you sign you You're gonna whine about the salary cap, overpay that hump when he he was really no good for you anymore.
jarrod_dyke: Thinking he was going to be good. and Nope.
Grumpy Old Prop: And you had Josh Hodge sitting there. You knew he was coming in your system. Like who don't know. You don't get, no, I'm sorry.
jarrod_dyke: And some of these other younglings that they've obviously unearthed with like Fuevo Boso and this brown Bampo kid, like, like, he's making bad.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: um bumpo Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: They've got talent.
jarrod_dyke: He's at this point, he's just making shitty decisions.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: You know, he made them a long time ago and he's paying for it now. And, you know, everyone's saying, Oh, he had a good year last year.
Grumpy Old Prop: And again.
jarrod_dyke: I was like, I don't think it's a good year from with Newcastle being the bottom and a bad Gloucester team being the ninth theme.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: No.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right.
jarrod_dyke: Like, I don't know how we get there if we're honest.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. And again, you see guys who leave Exeter being good, like Grondona.
jarrod_dyke: so So, and really you look at the other time, you look at the other side of the match this week and
Grumpy Old Prop: It's like it's just a perfect shitstorm of of dick of the week for for that sort of just surrounding Rob Baxter. It's like a Hurricane Milton of dick.
jarrod_dyke: See what you will. They've put together stocks for, you know, for what what was going down.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm.
jarrod_dyke: They, you know, we grabbed Caray and a bunch of guys that can scrum over Macco and let a couple other guys walk.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm. Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: And that's okay.
Grumpy Old Prop: How good was Reese carry this game, too?
jarrod_dyke: It was wonderful.
Grumpy Old Prop: We didn't mention that. That's not fair.
jarrod_dyke: No, we didn't.
Grumpy Old Prop: Sorry, Reese.
jarrod_dyke: Wild Welsh ginger man.
Grumpy Old Prop: You deserved much better than that.
jarrod_dyke: ah um But we knew we knew one of Macko's weaknesses was his scrumaging and it got really exposed last year.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.
jarrod_dyke: Like ball carrying absolute phenomenal would not trade him for the world. But that and then Billy was just crap. Like every time Billy touched the ball, things went bad, you know.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah. Yep.
jarrod_dyke: And so we were it was well known life was going to be OK after that. Farrell was a completely different story, but there're they have surrounded, we just talked to has touched on it. Fergus Burke is doing wonders only because they're playing to his strengths and not making his life hard when he's on the pitch. He's just asked to do the jobs that he's used to doing. Playing simple. That's pretty easy coaching if you look at it.
jarrod_dyke: so yeah while they had this one well while eter had this wonderful class, they just leaned on it way too hard and weren't ready for what was coming.
jarrod_dyke: Do they have another one in the in the locker? I doubt it. you know don't I don't see it in in the pack. I don't see it in the back line.
jarrod_dyke: you know Maybe I'll eat my words later, but especially at the nine and 10 spot. like you get You're playing Harvey Scanner who doesn't belong there.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm -hmm.
jarrod_dyke: and Doesn't belong in wearing that 10 shirt for a premiership team really.
Grumpy Old Prop: Oh, but he might be a ten for England. No.
jarrod_dyke: Oh Man, I can't I can't believe I heard those words not a chance um They got Hayden wood and my my concern immediately when they signed him was they're not going to use them and unfortunately, that was the truth and that really sucks for him because we saw a lot of bright things going on with him at Newcastle and at wasp and I thought this is this
Grumpy Old Prop: No, what the f...
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: who Whoever is going to grab him could have a wonderful situation. And I was sad it was extra because they I think it's fair to say they hang on to guys and and play them probably a little too long.
jarrod_dyke: They're not as guilt. They're not less guilt. They're more probably more guilty than some but not others of that.
Grumpy Old Prop: But they like the the people that they give this these opportunities to, sorry, I know we're extending this too long, but the people were that that they're giving chances to, and they couldn't keep the Simmons brothers.
jarrod_dyke: Almost there.
jarrod_dyke: Right.
Grumpy Old Prop: It's like, you couldn't wait to get rid of them, it felt like.
jarrod_dyke: To a point I'd say.
Grumpy Old Prop: And yet you're like, yeah, we're going to keep putting vermulin out there. And you were, I bet if you cut both of them or didn't resign both of them, you could just give their salaries to, you know, Sam Simmons and don't sign anybody new, just build through your system and you, you would have been just fine. But instead you had to keep, you know, a bunch of humps instead of good players.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah. So I think, again, it's not this weekend, it's the job he's done overall that he probably should have done better with. And you know, they want to people are clamoring about the exit away.
Grumpy Old Prop: What way is that?
jarrod_dyke: Extra ways looking pretty dogshit at the moment.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: I think and I don't think that's unfair.
Grumpy Old Prop: That's not a direction I want to go.
jarrod_dyke: No. No, no, I think they, I think if they look in the mirror hard, they'll realize we kind of balled this ourselves.
Grumpy Old Prop: I want to go the other way.
jarrod_dyke: And I think that I do think, unfortunately he's gonna, they're going to give him probably a little too long than they should.
Grumpy Old Prop: Mm hmm.
jarrod_dyke: And that's just how it is. Cause Rowan, he are like BFFs and I'm sure there's a lot more going on there that I want, don't want to know about. but Any, uh, let's go to pick them Friday night, sale Newcastle.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
Grumpy Old Prop: Hmm.
jarrod_dyke: ah Not Newcastle.
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah, not Newcastle, so be so.
jarrod_dyke: Uh, Exeter Bristol.
Grumpy Old Prop: Bristol.
jarrod_dyke: Bristol.
jarrod_dyke: Gloucester Bath. This is now tasty. This is now tasty. I'm taking a bath.
Grumpy Old Prop: I'm taking Gloucester.
jarrod_dyke: Okay. All right, here we go.
Grumpy Old Prop: i'm i'm I'm kind of, I think the shed might, um, be cooking up something for, for Finn after, after last year, the shushing, the great shushing.
jarrod_dyke: Gonna have some separation finally.
jarrod_dyke: Maybe. Yeah. so yeah
Grumpy Old Prop: Yeah.
jarrod_dyke: The Great Shushing. ah another Another big one. Midland Starby.
Grumpy Old Prop: I got the away team on this one.
jarrod_dyke: Less during Northampton. I do too. they They showed some grit. And I know, and this is, this is going to be a good old fashioned Midlands. This is not going to be for the week of hard by any means.
Grumpy Old Prop: You'll be some slobber knockery.
jarrod_dyke: Yes. I don't think this is going to be one that you, this might be one you watch with your eyes closed. Let's be honest. Please don't do it again. ah So that might be what we got here.
Grumpy Old Prop: ever watched footage of crash test dummies? like
jarrod_dyke: All right. Uh, Quinn series.
Grumpy Old Prop: Okay. I said this to you. I'm going to say it here.
Grumpy Old Prop: This is, there's no, not going to be any better opportunity this weekend than this weekend for Saracens to beat Quinn's, um, at Quinn's because as we've talked about, there's just so that the Harlequins have been depleted.
Grumpy Old Prop: They can still, of course, they can still ball. We saw that this past weekend.
jarrod_dyke: There's no guys that can totally rock it on this team. No doubt.
Grumpy Old Prop: Right. um It would frighten me more like I would I would not be making this pick if there were like three to four other guys that are injured currently for for Harlequins.
jarrod_dyke: Same. Same.
Grumpy Old Prop: And that's why I'm picking Saracens because they're healthy.
jarrod_dyke: I agree with that.
Grumpy Old Prop: They're pretty well rocked up in there. They're they're ah looking like a well oiled machine and Harlequins just aren't.
jarrod_dyke: Mm hmm.
Grumpy Old Prop: And I i think that that the margins are going to be close enough in this one because of especially with the injuries that the home field is not going to help.
jarrod_dyke: Yeah, not quite where they'd want to be at this moment. Okay. Cool. All right. That did it. Hey, see, we didn't do too bad.
Grumpy Old Prop: Not bad We had a lot to bitch about Rob Baxter I want It's right I Had to go back a couple pages of like wait, how why do I wait?
jarrod_dyke: Not bad at all. Even with that long yawn, yawn festival that we put out there. Sorry, guys. Anyway, um, we are going to head over to the, we did.
jarrod_dyke: That's been bottled up. but Believe it or not, as much as we winched about that guy, that's still been bottled up for a little while. Trust me.
Grumpy Old Prop: What are other reasons? He's ways. He's annoyed me in the past. Let's go Oh
jarrod_dyke: that Long list. Long list of them. Anyway, um we're going to head over to the fantasy corner. We hope you join us over there. If you're not gonna join us over there, we will be back sometime on Friday for you all to watch our terrible advice with the start sit sheet.
jarrod_dyke: Until then, we appreciate you all for listening to us. Thank you very much, everyone. Enjoy the rugby. Have a good one.
Grumpy Old Prop: Later.
jarrod_dyke: Cheers.
