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Season 7- Episode 9- Sorting Out Those Ribs (Champions Cup Round 1)
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We are back again friends! On this episode with those American rugby dopes, we are talking ALL things Ilona Maher as we discuss her signing with at The Gate and her impact across the sport & beyond. Then we jump in, with both feet, to the opening round of Champions Cup, good, the bad, the problems, the fun, the weather and so much more. All this, so much more friends, so kick back, get a cold drink and enjoy!
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Intro
Introduction & Personal Updates
00:00:29
Jarrod Dyke
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Roby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:33
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm Ben Glauser.
00:00:34
Jarrod Dyke
We're back into the saddle this week. Had a few hiccups last week and we're even a day late today.
00:00:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:00:41
Jarrod Dyke
That's how she goes.
00:00:43
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm in like, you know, when the best time to get a puppy is when you have a nine month old.
00:00:50
Jarrod Dyke
yeah I mean, you've done worse, but at the same time, yeah I think you've also had smarter decisions in your life, just saying.
00:00:52
Grumpy Old Prop
ah I mean, look, she'll be great. She's she's already like, She's house trained. It's just that and she's like the puppy, not the baby, ah but the puppy.
00:01:08
Grumpy Old Prop
um No.
00:01:08
Jarrod Dyke
Baby's not potty trained yet. I'd be amazed if she was.
00:01:12
Grumpy Old Prop
But the puppy is um like she gets that she's supposed to pee outside. She just can't hold it like she doesn't have the capacity. She's a puppy. um
00:01:21
Jarrod Dyke
So we got to let her out like 10 times a day.
00:01:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. um So that's fun. And then she also doesn't like crates, which is sucks because Rocky loves crates.
00:01:31
Jarrod Dyke
Her crate, so.
00:01:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but no, no crates, which means she gets fucking, she screams at night if she's in a thing that then she's in an enclosure that's too small.
00:01:33
Jarrod Dyke
Oops.
00:01:41
Grumpy Old Prop
So we got to still keep her from peeing everywhere. So it's fun.
00:01:44
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, God.
00:01:45
Grumpy Old Prop
It's more about like just a little bit extra work and it'll go away soon. Once she like, you know, just a couple of weeks, then she'll be all right.
00:01:52
Jarrod Dyke
Good luck with that.
00:01:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Thanks.
00:01:57
Jarrod Dyke
Don't ask me twice.
Listener Engagement & Feedback
00:01:59
Jarrod Dyke
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00:02:00
Grumpy Old Prop
This is going to go well.
00:02:04
Jarrod Dyke
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00:02:08
Jarrod Dyke
View back always welcome per usual.
00:02:11
Grumpy Old Prop
It is nice having a wife who will just bring you beer though.
00:02:11
Jarrod Dyke
Make sure that
00:02:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Like as in she came home, she was like, Oh, I went to the store to and they got some, some wines. I figured I'd get you some beer. And it's like, damn that I make good choices.
00:02:20
Jarrod Dyke
Thank you. but
00:02:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Anyway, it's really not my worst.
00:02:26
Jarrod Dyke
One of your better choices, at least. ah Anyway, ah make sure that you buy a good friend, George, the fancy, roby geeky coffee or beer, especially if you're very busy, like many of us are with this whole spirit period going on.
00:02:41
Jarrod Dyke
And man, we'll surely appreciate that if you do that for him.
Police Misconduct Discussion
00:02:47
Jarrod Dyke
There is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. um we had our We had our pick of the lot here, but we went, there is.
00:02:55
Grumpy Old Prop
There's a lot going on we because we missed time.
00:02:58
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, that also didn't help.
00:02:59
Grumpy Old Prop
so like it's We're still on time if we wanted to talk about um the claims adjuster, um the the gentleman who who shot the UnitedHealthcare CEO.
00:03:05
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:03:10
Grumpy Old Prop
um but ultimately like This story is more important than it's about massive institutional rot that is our you know police in this country, which more brings us back to the roots of when we started this, um especially this particular cop.
00:03:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, that's true.
00:03:27
Grumpy Old Prop
So what I'm going to say right now is this is from, there's a thread on on Blue Sky, the good place. um And he may have put it out into the bad place too, but I'm not going to promote that.
00:03:39
Grumpy Old Prop
So um go to the good place, Blue Sky. um if you know where the bad place is. Find Michael Harriot. H-A-R-R-I-O-T. um If you're not following him you and you like us, you should probably should follow him. He's fascinating. Anywho, he had a story on December 2nd at 1.02 p.m. This is Eastern time, so you know New York time, Boston time. So if you're at a different time, adjust for that. 1.02 p.m. our time. Talking about how for five decades a police officer roger ah galllobsky
00:04:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um and sexually assaulted black women and forced them to give testimony that he used to send black men to prison while he ran a sex trafficking ring and drug cartel in Kansas City, Kansas.
00:04:26
Jarrod Dyke
Good in Kansas City anyway
00:04:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Cops.
00:04:28
Grumpy Old Prop
right Cops fucking like this is the shit they pull. This is what our tax dollars go to support, um which is fascinating. You know, it got again in conjunction with the, um, you know, the, um,
00:04:41
Grumpy Old Prop
the the CEO being killed because it's like we could spend our tax money on making people healthy, but instead we give it to cops and, you know, and while health care executives get, for health insurance executive executives get like obscenely wealthy.
00:04:58
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Meanwhile, cops are doing this shit.
00:04:58
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:05:00
Grumpy Old Prop
And they're like, there's there's a lot it's a long story about it, but um like he did some fucked up stuff and like I don't want to put it out there but right it does it gets it like that that's the that's scratching the surface if we like yeah and I don't want to um yeah it's like
00:05:10
Jarrod Dyke
You've already said some pretty fucked up stuff. So if if if it goes deeper than that, which it does. um Yeah. Right.
00:05:30
Grumpy Old Prop
he He forced women to testify against innocent people innocent men. um Otherwise he was they would take their ah children because for like neglect or something like that he would just make something up like fuck you, you're gonna do this for me.
00:05:41
Jarrod Dyke
me so yep
00:05:43
Grumpy Old Prop
And, like, to that level, it's bad. um And of course he's doing it to to um to black men and women, um other vulnerable members of society.
00:05:53
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's like, that's the whole point of the police is to protect the vulnerable, one would think, but that's not how it actually works. they They're they predators.
00:06:00
Jarrod Dyke
how It's been working
00:06:02
Grumpy Old Prop
um They're not um they're like shepherds. like they're theyre They think they are, they try to pretend they are and want everybody to believe. This is you know this is like, It's fucked up like you'd expect it in a movie, but it's also like, yeah, it's, it's, this is the stuff that goes on in real life and it's completely, it's completely fucked.
00:06:23
Grumpy Old Prop
So, um, ultimately police are a tool of white supremacy, which is like, they shouldn't be, they're not supposed to be, but that's how they are functionally.
00:06:24
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:06:33
Jarrod Dyke
Nope.
00:06:35
Grumpy Old Prop
So we need to recognize that and like,
00:06:35
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:06:41
Grumpy Old Prop
You know, something's got to change. So anyway, thank you for listening.
Alona Maher & Bristol Bears Impact
00:06:46
Jarrod Dyke
Thank you and goodbye.
00:06:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Or fast forwarding through that either way understood, but at the same time, like read that fucking thread and read the the article.
00:06:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, if you did it, then I guess we don't blame you but at the same time. but Shit. Yeah, there you go.
00:06:56
Grumpy Old Prop
It's yeah.
00:06:58
Jarrod Dyke
That's really it.
00:06:59
Grumpy Old Prop
You'll understand why I'm going off a little bit.
00:07:02
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, totally. Or at least we hope. Anywho, we got some stuff to take care of otherwise. um Yeah, make sure that you grab our Patreon. I'm going to put a little document document in there that'll tell you who's worth a goddamn in this tournament and who's not literally because it's going to be all about points in how much you're pay literally paying for each one per player.
00:07:24
Jarrod Dyke
So it'll be, it'll be, uh, it'll help you. I think, I think it certainly, that's how I found Hanukkahm last year. When I was going through that, that's how I found can cam, cam Hanukkahm.
00:07:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:35
Jarrod Dyke
He's not as pretty ah of a price, but this year, but, uh, still quality.
00:07:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:07:41
Jarrod Dyke
And there's plenty of those out there now.
00:07:42
Grumpy Old Prop
I certainly are.
00:07:46
Jarrod Dyke
Well, another thing that didn't lose its steam while we were away is the biggest signing in England for a long time, I would say.
00:07:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm
00:07:56
Jarrod Dyke
Alona Maher has signed for Bristol Bears and she's already selling shit out for them too.
00:08:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Up the Bears Yeah, they're already like that so it's funny just mentioned it to me she's like yeah, they they moved their shirt they moved the game um like to to the you know the the large stadium and all that she's like and that's just just cuz she signed she hasn't played yet I'm like no no that's not just that she hasn't played yet that's for the first game that she's eligible to like she's not guaranteed to play that game so so like yeah to the point that's right but it's like this is the first time she'd be eligible to play and
00:08:23
Jarrod Dyke
No, she's not.
00:08:29
Jarrod Dyke
i'd say I'd say best case scenario, she's coming off the bench.
00:08:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. But still, like, i there are some who will say it's overhyped and that like, they don't really like that she's doing it. But I'm obviously I'm a fan of if you want to play play um um for it like, even if you know, you're going the other way, like, um
00:08:47
Jarrod Dyke
who
00:08:51
Grumpy Old Prop
in the Washington and Waukee and others in the Aussie leagues who are like, you know what, fuck this, I'm going to go play league instead of union. In this case, everybody's fascinated by what Mark can do.
00:09:02
Grumpy Old Prop
What can she do? There's a lot like she can, especially if she's going to play center or wing. Her skills from sevens translate very well to that.
00:09:12
Jarrod Dyke
yep Yep, I think I think she'll start at like 14 and I'm sure the hope for the US is that she could eventually get into the centers and
00:09:13
Grumpy Old Prop
And probably.
00:09:24
Jarrod Dyke
be a pretty dastardly center pairing if it was like her and Kelter.
00:09:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, because I mean, ah that's the culture to me is the the the predecessor of this, right? She was a seven star and then was like, Yeah, I'm going to try to play 15s. And I think the same people were saying the same thing back then.
00:09:39
Grumpy Old Prop
um Others like like me, I've learned, I've learned my lesson and say, you know what, that's, I understand sevens a little bit better.
00:09:40
Jarrod Dyke
Right. I agree. I believe so as well.
00:09:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Now, um I've watched much more of it, I understand it better. And it's like, no, I Yeah, there's, there's, there's going to be subtleties to learn and it's going to take a little bit of time and to to understand what you're seeing on the pitch.
00:09:59
Grumpy Old Prop
Cause there's less space, but I mean, her skills are, I'm just going to get you a little off balance and run you over. Like that's, that's easily translatable and she's smart in contact.
00:10:08
Jarrod Dyke
I think if there, I think that if there are any professional players currently in England that are not into this, it's more that, I think it's more that they feel threatened than anything.
00:10:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Like I think she'll do fine.
00:10:20
Grumpy Old Prop
A little bit.
00:10:21
Jarrod Dyke
Cause there's not a real downside to her being in this league. Like it's already, i and I think people need to understand that Bristol play are,
00:10:32
Jarrod Dyke
looking at Ashton gate gate also host host the men obviously also host um a football team as well.
00:10:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:10:38
Jarrod Dyke
So they, so that's why they've moved the game to a different day. Cause I think the football team's home that day, um, that it was originally planned on.
00:10:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:10:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Gotcha.
00:10:45
Jarrod Dyke
So that's why they're not going to play it then. and Um, so yeah, but they're still, you know, all right, cool. You got to move it a day, but you're also going to possibly sell the damn thing. out I don't know if the bears have ever sold that out the men.
00:10:58
Jarrod Dyke
I don't think they've ever sold that place out. And they they've had some good days where it was really, really jammed and it was awesome to watch.
00:11:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:11:04
Jarrod Dyke
But if they sell this biatch out, you I hope everybody just eats the words and says, nevermind.
00:11:05
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:11:08
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, that's the, but that's the other thing is that like, you can't, now it's kind of undeniable that no people, there's demand out there. She's growing the game. Like, that's why, you know, there was that whole thing about, is she rugby's biggest star? Like some, because I think rugby pass or somebody put out and said that like, oh, rugby, rugby is big, biggest star. And it's like, yes, objectively, it's true. She's rugby's biggest star right now, because you look at someone like a Sia Khaleesi,
00:11:38
Grumpy Old Prop
or a Marcus Smith, or, um you know, fuck, that's the best. Like you can just go down and, you know, a DuPont, like, if you know Rugby, you know them.
00:11:50
Grumpy Old Prop
And if you know Rugby, you know the name Alona Mar, right?
00:11:53
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:11:54
Grumpy Old Prop
It's, it they kind of, there she's on that level of of awareness of from of people who are in Rugby.
00:12:01
Jarrod Dyke
I think it's, I think she's pushing beyond those limits.
00:12:02
Grumpy Old Prop
But,
00:12:04
Jarrod Dyke
And that's the difference right now.
00:12:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, millions, millions of people out there who don't know or give a fuck who Anton DuPont is know who Alana Mara is.
00:12:12
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, you say her name to a lot of people now. And they're like, Yeah, I know who she is. She's awesome.
00:12:18
Jarrod Dyke
And it doesn't matter if you're talking about a rugby person or not more often than not.
00:12:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, exactly.
00:12:22
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:12:23
Jarrod Dyke
Cause even if I say, if I say the name, I can, you know, I'll mention Dancing with the Stars and you know, she did that for her publicity and I don't blame her a damn bit for that.
00:12:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:12:31
Jarrod Dyke
Cause now people will remember, Oh yeah, she was, the she was the gallon Dancing with the Stars.
00:12:36
Jarrod Dyke
I remember her. Okay.
00:12:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:12:37
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. She's amazing. Yes, she is.
00:12:37
Grumpy Old Prop
And, and she's fun to watch to play rugby.
00:12:41
Jarrod Dyke
Also of that.
00:12:42
Grumpy Old Prop
So it's like that there's, there's both of those things. It's like, wow, she's awesome. much There's engagement. i I get it. I like, I, I get her as a, as a human being. Also the few times I've got to actually watch her, she's been a lot of fun and that game has been a lot of fun.
00:12:55
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's how you grow the sport. That's how you grow the sport.
00:13:01
Jarrod Dyke
It is indeed.
00:13:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Like.
00:13:04
Grumpy Old Prop
you You bring people in who wouldn't normally like the people who wouldn't normally watch rugby are gonna watch her play.
00:13:05
Jarrod Dyke
No down.
00:13:10
Grumpy Old Prop
So get on with it, go on.
00:13:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, no downside here.
Saturday Rugby Matches Review
00:13:16
Jarrod Dyke
Speaking of PWR sadly, ah the game of the week did get postponed which sucks because that was going to be actually Bristol against Exeter, which I was looking forward to watching that one.
00:13:24
Grumpy Old Prop
I was, yes, I was too. um And wind, um I mean, must've been some, I mean, we saw, mm-hmm.
00:13:30
Jarrod Dyke
There were other things that got canceled in postpone too. So, you we know, we we saw it all over Europe this weekend.
00:13:35
Jarrod Dyke
as we always We're going to go through here what the impact was. So they had their reasons and I don't blame them. um keeping Keeping, you know, the players are usually going to be okay.
00:13:35
Grumpy Old Prop
true yeah and there's danger with people like walking to the yeah it makes sense right fair fine if it's gonna keep someone alive
00:13:46
Jarrod Dyke
It's the fans that usually end up being the real thing that you need to be concerned about. And we don't we don't need someone dying on the way to this because we were dumb. So I get it.
00:13:57
Jarrod Dyke
I get it. It sucks, but I get it.
00:14:01
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, let's let's not have anyway died, yeah you know, just yet.
00:14:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And i yeah, and I honestly don't think that's overstating, like that's, you know, overstating it. Like, you know, that those are some, some heavy winds.
00:14:10
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:14:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Just stay home. Let's all just snuggle up.
00:14:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I wasn't mad about being over this this way this weekend, watching some of this stuff over there.
00:14:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:14:22
Jarrod Dyke
Speaking of, let's talk about some stuff we watched. um We're gonna try and keep this as tight as we can, friends. We get time limits on it and everything.
00:14:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:14:29
Jarrod Dyke
um So ah we'll start at the rec, Bath and La Rochelle. Weather did not help this game. And unfortunately, the team that was slightly more prepared for that type of game was La Rochelle.
00:14:43
Jarrod Dyke
So that's why the result went the way it did.
00:14:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:14:46
Jarrod Dyke
um It wasn't. It wasn't that Bath couldn't have handled it more. They obviously showed up better better in the second half, which was huge for their own for their own sake and and made
00:14:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Was.
00:15:00
Jarrod Dyke
something of it and got a got at least a point out of it.
00:15:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:15:02
Jarrod Dyke
ah But yeah, you know, it's it's we know the you know, a guy like when you have a guy like Will Skelton, he's gonna just get greasy. And he's also gonna be a ah really annoying guy to tackle.
00:15:14
Grumpy Old Prop
He really is.
00:15:14
Jarrod Dyke
So it's like, ah why?
00:15:18
Jarrod Dyke
What did I do?
00:15:18
Grumpy Old Prop
and and And the worst part is, he's tougher to tackle, but his tackles don't get any, like, easier to break the other way.
00:15:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, he will just still just hammer the fuck out of you. And it's like, but this isn't fair, because now I'm like, if I'm trying to tackle you, it sucks. And then when I'm ten like, we don't, this isn't reciprocated. It's all just you are, you're kicking my ass and I don't like that.
00:15:37
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:15:40
Grumpy Old Prop
oh
00:15:41
Jarrod Dyke
I don't like it one bit.
00:15:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And then you're telling me about it, which makes me want to smack you, which then, you know, have the little bit of the, the, the pushing and the shoving.
00:15:51
Jarrod Dyke
Damn it Will.
00:15:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, but yeah, I mean, like my Rochelle are, are like, there's obviously such a fucking class club. I thought bath showed well.
00:16:02
Jarrod Dyke
who
00:16:05
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, I think they're just going up against, uh, a better team to be blunt and not that bath or a bad team, but
00:16:14
Jarrod Dyke
No. And obviously, and Finn Russell's skill set is just something that can change a game no matter who the opponent is.
00:16:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:16:20
Jarrod Dyke
And it's not, it's just neutralized when you're in the middle of shit like that.
00:16:24
Jarrod Dyke
And there's nothing you can do about it. You know, he, he did the best to manage the game to the point where his team could be in it, which they were there. This was a one point game. ah um right up until or right up until like midway through the second half.
00:16:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:16:37
Jarrod Dyke
So um just yeah, tough, tough conditions.
00:16:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:16:41
Jarrod Dyke
And by the time we hit that midway point when I think West hit the penalty, I was like, I just never felt like Bathroom to get the fuck out of their own way either.
00:16:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:16:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:16:53
Jarrod Dyke
You know, they kept having chance after chance. They kept totally chucking it away. It's like, well, guys, you have a chance to win this thing.
00:16:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:17:01
Jarrod Dyke
And, you know, why not? It was obviously just a huge problem because of the wind and it's like, oh, good Lord, what are we doing here?
00:17:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:17:06
Jarrod Dyke
So I don't know.
00:17:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but honestly, though, the first that like they they didn't understand the assignment straight out of the gate either.
00:17:12
Grumpy Old Prop
The the the kicking a pen move up too many penalty, they kicked two penalties, one of them after LaRochelle had scored two tries already.
00:17:13
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, true.
00:17:18
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:17:21
Grumpy Old Prop
And I'm like, yeah okay, I don't care. Like yeah this, even if back, like, come back and make the, you know, furious, like get it, get it close. Like you don't, they don't deserve to win because they're just the post kicking. This is not, once again, everybody for, for, for everyone out there.
00:17:40
Grumpy Old Prop
EPC, EPCR Europe is not a point scoring. It's not a kicking competition. It's a try scoring competition.
00:17:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:17:49
Grumpy Old Prop
and they came with, you know, pea shooters and then they lost. So but that's to me the story of it.
00:17:54
Jarrod Dyke
I did.
00:17:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Like if, especially the second one, if Finn goes to the corner, which he should have, um maybe it's a different game.
00:18:00
Jarrod Dyke
Right. Yep. Let's go, let's move to Saturday. We'll go to the, we'll try and do this kind of by window. The good news is we don't have to talk about one game too much and the other game even not really that much either, but
00:18:13
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
Sunday Rugby Matches Review
00:18:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:18:13
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:18:14
Jarrod Dyke
that I'll just touch on Claremont Benetton because I watched it, quite a bit of it. Benetton probably deserved more than they got because they looked like they were trying to go fast and be quick about everything, but they woostered the shit out of a lot of things.
00:18:15
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, mm-hmm.
00:18:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Uh-huh.
00:18:30
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, yep, in the 22 and knock on. I was like, oh, guys, guys, what are we doing?
00:18:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:18:36
Jarrod Dyke
You know, Patelliato being deployed as a second row is mean, Claremont, just plain mean. I remember what I'd do as a fucking back rower and just killing people.
00:18:47
Jarrod Dyke
It's just not fun. So sorry for Claremont. I liked a lot of what Claremont prevented. on for bat and liked a lot of what they were doing.
00:18:53
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:18:54
Jarrod Dyke
Just, you know, just, you know, too many knock-ons.
00:18:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Not no didn't finish yeah Yeah, it was And these guys can't really play rugby so
00:18:58
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, too many knock-ons. Speaking I can't finish.
00:19:06
Jarrod Dyke
I, and we can just go right to the end when, because the Sharks just absolutely own this game. um I know, I think Exeter scored first, but that was kind of the last point where they were ever really in it.
00:19:18
Jarrod Dyke
Because the Sharks remembered, oh yeah, we're actually a really good team and fuck these guys.
00:19:25
Jarrod Dyke
No, no.
00:19:26
Grumpy Old Prop
We can do one ups. Anyway.
00:19:32
Jarrod Dyke
And when you can't score against 12...
00:19:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:19:35
Jarrod Dyke
Are you fucking kidding me, Exeter?
00:19:37
Jarrod Dyke
Like...
00:19:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:19:41
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's late in the game, too.
00:19:41
Jarrod Dyke
If...
00:19:42
Grumpy Old Prop
It's not even that it's that it's, you know, they scored it.
00:19:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:19:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, they scored against 13. But like, yeah, then then they didn't. They had the the entire level. You know, Evan. Yeah, both locks, both locks are out, too.
00:19:56
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. So this is, that's like the place where they love to attack right there.
00:20:00
Jarrod Dyke
So it's like, you still find a way to screw it up.
00:20:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Right, like that you should be doing your best and no.
00:20:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, Faywa Boseau got loose like I think it was like a kick or something like that.
00:20:05
Jarrod Dyke
just
00:20:08
Grumpy Old Prop
And of course, yeah, you give him that much more space. He'll score on you. But if I have that correct, man, a lot of the games bleed together. So um I can't recall his tribe specifically.
00:20:16
Jarrod Dyke
That's right.
00:20:17
Grumpy Old Prop
But I remember it being like, ah yeah, of course, he put him in the loose um that the um for some reason I'm considering it a video kick, but probably was just, you know, a pass or something like that.
00:20:27
Grumpy Old Prop
and
00:20:29
Jarrod Dyke
Might have been them actually moving it wide, who knows?
00:20:32
Jarrod Dyke
But yeah, it's, yeah, if Baxter and Tony Rowe weren't like, you know, Siamese twins and attached to their butts, like, the he would not, if I was the chairman, I would not want him, I would not have him back right now.
00:20:42
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:20:47
Jarrod Dyke
Last in the prem and can't come away with a point even after playing against 12 for the last like what, three, four minutes. all you need to do is knock over one try.
00:20:56
Grumpy Old Prop
although Yeah.
00:20:57
Jarrod Dyke
And it's not like they didn't have their chance. They were down there too.
00:21:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:21:00
Jarrod Dyke
It was a really stupid thing. They were down there. Oh, like I'd absolutely be losing my shit if I was the owner. Like I know teams aren't prioritizing champions cups sometimes, but like, Oh, you make the knockouts by some hook or crook way.
00:21:17
Jarrod Dyke
You get extra money. Why wouldn't you be going for it?
00:21:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm Like you're in it you're like what you're so it's one of those you've you have already committed to being in it it's like otherwise like if you if you're Like you're you're kind of you're paying to be a part of it literally, right?
00:21:20
Jarrod Dyke
Like I don't, I'm at a loss.
00:21:34
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, you know for choosing all this need to be professional club in this at this regard this level In the competition like this like why not just go for it?
00:21:36
Jarrod Dyke
Uh-huh.
00:21:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Why are you pissing it away? But also this is as good as exit or are so
00:21:48
Jarrod Dyke
It is. I agree. Yeah. And last year it was a bit of a fluke.
00:21:50
Grumpy Old Prop
like yeah right because like they've sucked in most of the competitions lately so maybe consider that like that and the other thing is you're not winning shit in the prem like at this point they need to to worry about relegation in the prem so at some point wouldn't you want to at least say hey we went out
00:21:58
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Yeah.
00:22:11
Grumpy Old Prop
with a, you know, if you if you are a good club, if you were actually good and not, and you just fluke that you're at the bottom of the table now, then you want to make a statement in Europe.
00:22:23
Grumpy Old Prop
And they they did make a statement.
00:22:26
Jarrod Dyke
They're not very good.
00:22:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
Rugby Matches In-Depth Analysis
00:22:28
Jarrod Dyke
um Yeah, so let's move to the to the second window of the day.
00:22:28
Grumpy Old Prop
No, you suck.
00:22:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:22:34
Jarrod Dyke
Northampton in Cass wasn't a shock. Cass was super, super depowered and Northampton didn't fuck around. So shocker of the day, Northampton just cruised.
00:22:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Nope. Yeah.
00:22:46
Jarrod Dyke
The big one was Toulon and Stormers and Toulon storming the castle. Like, wow. i Not sure I had that one on my bingo board, but hey, all right.
00:22:57
Jarrod Dyke
So this is maybe Talon announcing that they're actually going to fucking be a part of the whole thing this year.
00:23:03
Jarrod Dyke
Like I remember last year, they, they kind of screwed up the first two games.
00:23:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:23:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Mhm.
00:23:06
Jarrod Dyke
One of them wasn't really their fault, but, and then just mailed it in after that. So I'm, I'm at a strong too long team in Europe is strong Europe. really, like, and think back to the days when they won three in a row, like, and I know they had some fucking outrageous lineups in those days, but still, um, no, there's some, some wonderful players in there.
00:23:27
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean this isn't this isn't a half bad lineup Though like that's not I'm not gonna sell this one short. Look, I mean some some that Oh ribbons Ludlum like You know Yes, he had a he had a match
00:23:33
Jarrod Dyke
That pack is mean I'm a huge for kind of, he's a pan fan, Bob, any,
00:23:44
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:23:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yup, Saron and Bigger as your 9 and 10 is a quality option.
00:23:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm a little bit Yeah, it's true Any self-viliary who who had who put one down like I feel bad for many had uh, he was treated improperly this you You like
00:23:49
Jarrod Dyke
With, you know, Ben White's not healthy right now. Like, shit. Not bad.
00:23:59
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, the rib shot he gave. I was like, ooh, you're dead. You dead.
00:24:09
Jarrod Dyke
Oh. Well, and then the fucking knucklehead that I mean, it was a no brainer for Dixon. I was like, that's a red. Like I was watching this with people and they're like, is that bad?
00:24:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:24:20
Jarrod Dyke
I'm like, that's bad.
00:24:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it's not.
00:24:23
Jarrod Dyke
I was watching this at the gym and they were just like, is that bad?
00:24:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Not good.
00:24:27
Jarrod Dyke
I'm like, that's really bad. Like that is a dirty red. And this is also why it's a long conversation. We're not going to get really into why I don't want the bullshit 20 minute red card. I don't want to be debating about whether or not this is a permanent red or 20 minute red.
00:24:39
Jarrod Dyke
We argu argue bullshit about yellow versus red.
00:24:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:24:42
Jarrod Dyke
I don't want to have to argue it twice. Like, let's just say it's red and this is 100% of fucking red as red can be.
00:24:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:24:49
Jarrod Dyke
That was nasty. And I hope this guy get, I don't know what the band, this guy picked up, but it should be fairly lengthy. That was gross.
00:24:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Because like, so to me, it's it's at that, um like college football thing where it used to just be number one plays number two, and you're arguing about who's number two or number three.
00:25:03
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:25:07
Grumpy Old Prop
And now they've put a playoff in and it was like eight, I think it's even going to like 12 and shit it's going like but now I guess I'd much rather rather argue who's the 12 versus 13 best team because at that point, it's actually And, but the same, the same point, it doesn't fucking matter because they're going to get smashed by the number one team.
00:25:24
Jarrod Dyke
Uh-huh.
00:25:24
Grumpy Old Prop
So it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
00:25:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Like they're still not in that, that class. Um, and like that's kind of relating that to like the red card, like, come on. I'd rather argue about whether something like, I mean, there's really no argument about something like this.
00:25:39
Jarrod Dyke
No, it shouldn't be.
00:25:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, but yeah, I don't want to argue versus, oh, is this a number two or a number one?
00:25:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Like that's a stupid art. No, they should both. You're you qualify, you go but for a, for a full game.
00:25:48
Jarrod Dyke
You're off. Take a bye and goodbye.
00:25:51
Grumpy Old Prop
You know, like, the it yeah, it's a shit system. Anyway, we're off off time.
00:25:58
Jarrod Dyke
Let's, yeah, let's go to the next one. um Next window, Munster, Stade Francais, Saracens, and Bulls.
00:26:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Sorry.
00:26:05
Jarrod Dyke
Munster, Stade Francais, fuck you, Flo, thank you very much for only letting me watch one half.
00:26:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm.
00:26:09
Jarrod Dyke
um But it was the most interesting half, I will say that, because frickin' Stade Francais decided to do the whole hold my beer thing and just completely fuck it up.
00:26:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yeah. yeah
00:26:20
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, um watched it I'm watching, and I also, i watch i was I watched this on Monday, and I was at the gym working out, so I had on the TV, and They were like, people were like, that didn't look good.
00:26:32
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, no, it's not. Particularly the, the suplex of Craig Casey.
00:26:36
Grumpy Old Prop
oh
00:26:37
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, I was like, you are going bye-bye.
00:26:40
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah yeah that was i was like well is it did he could he have no because he stood up but i oh but i guess the point i guess to me
00:26:40
Jarrod Dyke
Like that is the end. I'm so glad Luke Pierce didn't fuck around with that and just said, no, no, no, no, you, you done. Bye-bye. Go home.
00:26:51
Jarrod Dyke
You picked the guy up and didn't do anything other than drop him like I don't care where he landed. That's not Fucking hell.
00:27:01
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't care how it got that way because at the, yeah, was there a little bit of a jump by KES? Um, and I, there's, it's still, you still have a duty of care. You still can't just be like, Oh, he did that thing. Oh, I'll just stand up. but fucking flo Like, what?
00:27:20
Jarrod Dyke
Oh I was like, where the fuck you going, dude?
00:27:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Um, yeah, it took me a second to be like, Oh no, that's yeah.
00:27:27
Jarrod Dyke
I was
00:27:30
Jarrod Dyke
like, you are done, bro.
00:27:30
Grumpy Old Prop
I was like, I, cause I, again, I saw Craig jump a little bit, but the stand up, you just can't, once you stand up, you can't argue it at all.
00:27:37
Jarrod Dyke
Well, little guys like that, I know they're they're fairly strong, but all you got to do is just like drive them into the ground and they're going to go down because you have the size advantage, my friend.
00:27:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:27:45
Jarrod Dyke
Just basically put your weight into them and fall on them and they will go down real easy.
00:27:49
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:27:49
Jarrod Dyke
You don't need to get that really nasty aggressiveness. So I imagine one at least one, if not both these guys are going to be missing time too. But Monster took care of business otherwise, so good on them. um that was a good Those are pretty solid game from then overall, I'd say.
00:28:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:28:04
Jarrod Dyke
i
00:28:04
Grumpy Old Prop
It was, and that, yeah.
00:28:06
Jarrod Dyke
Abrams was ah was not a huge shout when he when he signed with Munster.
00:28:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:28:12
Jarrod Dyke
Probably should have been a bigger one though, cuz I remember him playing for Leon and looking really freaking good. And I was like, that's a good signing. like Leon should not have let him go if they could have helped it.
00:28:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Now.
00:28:20
Jarrod Dyke
But I sometimes, the call he wants I think he wanted to play Champions Cup and Leon didn't qualify. So he was like, later guys, so I'm out.
00:28:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Bye.
00:28:29
Jarrod Dyke
Okay, bye. Other side of the ditch.
00:28:34
Jarrod Dyke
This is what infuriated me so like you and I were talking about the day of it's what bugs the shit out of us so badly when they play so poorly against a team like Newcastle that they front up and put it in the Saracens put in this type of performance against a really good team like just really just bent these guys over and that's not say I'm not saying that saying because like balls are bad and you know we just had our way like
00:28:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:28:57
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:28:59
Jarrod Dyke
That's a really solid score line against a really freaking good team and the Saracens just took it to them.
00:29:04
Jarrod Dyke
I don't think there's another way to put it.
00:29:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:29:06
Grumpy Old Prop
The Saracens to me made, you know, we talked about this, I talked about the statement from from the Chiefs. I, to me, I thought the Saracens made a made massive statement here.
00:29:18
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm just saying, look, we're gonna, we, they, they shoved around the bowls. Like, I think I saw like Hennacombe had the most, um, defenders beaten or something like that in this round.
00:29:28
Grumpy Old Prop
And I'm like, it might be true, but he didn't really go anywhere.
00:29:28
Jarrod Dyke
might be true.
00:29:31
Jarrod Dyke
north No, I mean, he was he was um somewhat of a pass, but
00:29:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Like they were maybe going sideways. He was doing like a lot of, yeah. I remember him beating like five guys on one, on one play, but like, he just went laterally. They're like, all right, well, look, I might miss a tackle, but And okay, he might visit that, but eventually you're just going to get tackled because one of us will like, you know, get the timing just right and you're going to go down, but you haven't gained any meters.
00:29:52
Grumpy Old Prop
So like, I thought they bottle them pretty well. Um, you know, yeah, that's how many line breaks, how many line breaks?
00:29:56
Jarrod Dyke
had seven defenders beaten, but 41 meters only. So, and he had 11 carries, so not a ton. What's up?
00:30:05
Jarrod Dyke
Um, they don't have line breaks on here. It looks like, oh wait, they do. None.
00:30:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Not that, yeah, yeah seven, wait, seven carries, 41 meters, heard of seven broke, seven tackle busts, 41 meters, zero line breaks.
00:30:10
Jarrod Dyke
None. So there you go.
00:30:14
Jarrod Dyke
11 carries. Yep. That's the one.
00:30:20
Grumpy Old Prop
You have you have seven seven defenders beaten, in zero line breaks. Yeah, you're you're just kind of running sideways. So, um and that's all they gave them.
00:30:27
Jarrod Dyke
A little bit.
00:30:29
Grumpy Old Prop
And then the know the wind, that was, you know, i that to me looked like a 20 point wind and yet Sarries were winning at half, like,
00:30:36
Jarrod Dyke
Uh, Tully.
00:30:37
Grumpy Old Prop
to me that's just defensive dominance and and just working themselves. They're like, we'll get our opportunities. Kind of the opposite of Benetton. It was like, we're gonna be patient. We're just gonna contain them and we'll get our opportunities and we'll take advantage. And that's that's what they did. Like every time they had and and and ah the the opportunity, it just felt like forever that they they didn't get many opportunities it felt like.
00:31:00
Jarrod Dyke
but they took they took the ones that they got. So it's, you know, efficient.
00:31:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. And got a bonus point, boom. Like mission accomplished.
00:31:05
Jarrod Dyke
ah Yeah. Five point win again, especially considering the result last year down in a lot this first felt like I am running away with that one for sure.
00:31:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:14
Jarrod Dyke
Just be like, thank you. Goodbye.
00:31:16
Grumpy Old Prop
See ya.
00:31:17
Jarrod Dyke
See you later. Um, and then the final window of Saturday was Two games that really didn't turn out to be much. Like, sale didn't really send their best team, and Glasgow put up their best team, and the score showed it, unquestionably.
00:31:26
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:31:30
Grumpy Old Prop
It did.
00:31:34
Jarrod Dyke
I don't know if we have something for a hat-trick plus a card, but George Horton did it.
00:31:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:31:38
Jarrod Dyke
It's not quite a Gordie Howe hat-trick, but it's the same idea.
00:31:45
Jarrod Dyke
But you managed it, but anyway, yeah, so not much to be done over there. This, you know, it was the horn and Jones and two people that do show over there plus plus plus plus.
00:31:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. It certainly was. Yeah, yeah.
00:31:56
Jarrod Dyke
And I'm really like. Rossing. I don't know. See, I thought that a lot of the funnels was that back up and running.
00:32:07
Jarrod Dyke
So the fact that they were playing this where they were was kind of annoying to me, but maybe I have that wrong, in which case, sorry.
00:32:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:32:13
Jarrod Dyke
OK. um
00:32:15
Grumpy Old Prop
I honestly think they did, I don't know. you
00:32:17
Jarrod Dyke
They may have done it on purpose. Wouldn't put it past them.
00:32:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, I mean, the thing is, like, they couldn't have known it was going to rain because that field, that pitch just fell the fuck apart.
00:32:28
Jarrod Dyke
But did.
00:32:29
Grumpy Old Prop
It was awful. And like, okay, we finally figured out how to stop Marcus Smith. Don't let him get any kind of footing. Just give him, give him turf.
00:32:36
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:32:36
Grumpy Old Prop
that well This doesn't, doesn't grip at all.
00:32:39
Jarrod Dyke
Well, he put on a show last year when they were inside and maybe they were thinking otherwise, they're like, yeah, maybe we don't want him to have that this year.
00:32:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. So then we're going to have that again.
00:32:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. It also looked like ah the the um the grass was long too.
00:32:47
Jarrod Dyke
And might've
00:32:50
Grumpy Old Prop
so like they had like like they They definitely doctored that pitch for to to take down the quins a little bit.
00:32:51
Jarrod Dyke
been a little long, yep.
00:32:59
Grumpy Old Prop
and I'm just saying. um
00:33:01
Jarrod Dyke
and and and they have And just like with La Rochelle, like they have the monsters in the pack to just make life hard on you when you need to be able to you know just hit guys and go backwards.
00:33:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:33:12
Jarrod Dyke
and You know, you pile into a sofa on top of that. It's just, it's not fun.
00:33:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I'd like it's one of those.
00:33:20
Jarrod Dyke
It really isn't.
00:33:21
Grumpy Old Prop
It's one of those. This match sucks to watch. And I'm not learning anything from like, you know, from from the Saracens match and even the that the Glasgow match, they're like, those two teams actually look like contenders.
00:33:26
Jarrod Dyke
who
00:33:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Like I, you know, maybe we'll see, <unk> we'll we'll learn a little bit more, um depending on who they play, like equals, there's a, it's always weird when there's the South Africa to Europe travel or either way, like, you know, the team's gonna suffer a little bit.
00:33:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, but I don't know that the bulls were in South Africa the week before. So, um, yeah.
00:33:52
Jarrod Dyke
they weren't the, so they were talking about it on the broadcast. Like they actually got kind of a practice for this because the weather wasn't a whole lot different the weekend before and they were in Connick and they're in Connick also has a 4G pitch, a plastic pitch.
00:34:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:34:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:34:04
Jarrod Dyke
So they kind of had a trial run at this. And I don't know, I don't remember what they said the result was, but they, they kind of knew what they were getting into when they came to Saracen.
00:34:12
Jarrod Dyke
So, and that, that was pretty much a full unit that they brought.
00:34:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:34:15
Grumpy Old Prop
It was.
00:34:15
Jarrod Dyke
I don't know if there was anything more they could have brought. So sans like one or two guys,
00:34:19
Grumpy Old Prop
So again, yeah. So, so then there we can learn from, from, like, you know, Saracens. Yeah. They're contenders this year. Rassing, Quinn's like, maybe they're good.
00:34:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Like, I don't know.
00:34:32
Jarrod Dyke
We don't know.
00:34:34
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, like they just, so I've been, you know, good for rassing one.
00:34:35
Jarrod Dyke
Nope.
00:34:38
Grumpy Old Prop
You know, that's obviously much better for their chances.
00:34:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
00:34:41
Grumpy Old Prop
I just want to, I would have.
00:34:44
Grumpy Old Prop
um You know, we'll get to a match that I would have liked to see under different circumstances. This one I would like to see on a better pitch.
00:34:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yep.
Rugby Predictions & Strategies
00:34:53
Jarrod Dyke
Agreed. Um, let's go to Sunday morning, Bordeaux and Lester. You know, if I was a Tigers fan, Despite the scoreline, I'd be pretty proud of the way that the Tigers played.
00:35:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I'm bored or just, you know, Lester aren't they're not a bad team. Obviously, they there's a there's a lot of good stuff there.
00:35:14
Jarrod Dyke
No.
00:35:15
Grumpy Old Prop
They're just not a great team yet. um Or this year. And like, but they're going in the right direction. Like, um you know, we've talked about um bath not understanding the assignment, Lester understood the assignment, check out made sure that they understand these they were going for tries, they just didn't quite connect in the last bit, like, or or throw a pass into touch a couple, you know, just
00:35:24
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:35:30
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, they did.
00:35:41
Grumpy Old Prop
They're just not, they're not fully baked yet. um But man, you're right. They put on the show, they they really tried to take it to Bordeaux and yet, giving look who's on the other side there.
00:35:53
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, the other side is just really hard to be like. You can't be mad about what happened. like you you know you look at yeah Just look at the freaking 1 through 15 to start with is stacked.
00:35:59
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:36:06
Jarrod Dyke
Most of those guys, if they're not superstars or stars, like even at the international stage, they're solid, solid club guys that you would take all day long.
00:36:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:36:16
Jarrod Dyke
like Pete Samba was a great number eight.
00:36:18
Jarrod Dyke
like we We know about him from from Super Rugby.
00:36:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:36:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:36:20
Jarrod Dyke
and you know, Diabi's a solid player, like Rizziรจre, we know his time from his time over at La Rochelle, like Johnny Gray, yep, we're Johnny Gray fans here, like, and then Taveeta Tatafu and Tap White are, you know, solid guys coming off the bench, although I was waiting for Swinton and Coleman to get a red because they were walking cards, so I was like, I was like, this might be a card, didn't happen, but I was, so, sorry, Lester, I thought that was gonna come to fruition.
00:36:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. I'm trying to raise okay.
00:36:31
Grumpy Old Prop
Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh.
00:36:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm. I do Joey Carbury on the bench. Jesus.
00:36:48
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, right, exactly, exactly, so.
00:36:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:36:51
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. While, while it, the school is not pretty, like just be, I would be very pleased with the way the Tigers played.
00:36:53
Grumpy Old Prop
And then here's the thing, like, it's yeah okay, it looks bad, but really, it's 42 28.
00:37:00
Jarrod Dyke
If I was, ah if I was their fan, you know,
00:37:07
Grumpy Old Prop
It's a 14 point game.
00:37:10
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, that's
00:37:11
Jarrod Dyke
We scored 28 of them second a half.
00:37:14
Jarrod Dyke
but
00:37:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, but like at the same time, um you know, they've they've got guys who can score tries, like for fun, like, you know, believe it or not.
00:37:22
Jarrod Dyke
BLBR, oh my god, oh my god.
00:37:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:37:25
Jarrod Dyke
Just, I'm watching, this is not, it's it happened a couple weeks ago and frickin' the international's on this watching him and i'm just like, this like you can just see it physically separate as he's going and he's just like, he doesn't even look like he's fuckin' runnin' that fast either.
00:37:39
Jarrod Dyke
It's like, geez, that's just, you can't teach that.
00:37:39
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:37:43
Jarrod Dyke
like You can get guys faster, you can't do that though.
00:37:43
Grumpy Old Prop
it's a shit
00:37:46
Jarrod Dyke
like That comes from mom and dad right there.
00:37:47
Grumpy Old Prop
No, I mean like Yeah, it's like ah that guy who now is on the NFL roster used to play for whales and In Gloucester And yeah, I don't know he's lost But yeah, he used to be like it's just another year like you see someone who you know is fast running after the ball and you're like, alright cool that
00:37:58
Jarrod Dyke
Nobody knows. what Nobody knows who he is or where he is right now. Promise you, bro.
00:38:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Nine times out of ten they get this and then the only time it's the other one is when Lewis resam it was running them down and it's like No, he's running like some ridiculous pace faster than him and it doesn't it looks like he's cruising and Billy Barre is the same way.
00:38:24
Grumpy Old Prop
It's like No, the other guys got the angle but it doesn't matter because he's fast.
00:38:26
Jarrod Dyke
Right.
00:38:29
Jarrod Dyke
Doesn't matter.
00:38:29
Grumpy Old Prop
He's that much faster Dick
00:38:31
Jarrod Dyke
He's going to outrun that angle. It does not matter, my friends. It really doesn't. Another game that we don't need to spend too much time on. Toulouse Ulster.
00:38:42
Jarrod Dyke
Ulster are really banged up.
00:38:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm Yeah, I would have liked to see him with that but also Well, it doesn't matter cuz the thing is DuPont just puts the ball where it needs to be This doesn't like
00:38:45
Jarrod Dyke
Definitely did not have all the guys they would want in this game. And Toulouse are... They're missing guys and they still have a stacked lineup.
00:38:56
Jarrod Dyke
Like, get the fuck out of here.
00:39:05
Jarrod Dyke
Right, he really does. like I'm watching him. i'm almost like I was like, that's a try assist, that's a try assist. like And he does that from the front to the back. He just doesn't do it down by the goal line.
00:39:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:39:14
Jarrod Dyke
So it's like, that's why he's...
00:39:15
Grumpy Old Prop
No. I mean that little that that kick pass. ah to I can't remember like this.
00:39:22
Jarrod Dyke
I used to kabut so.
00:39:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes, just fuck you. Fuck you.
00:39:26
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, mm.
00:39:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Fuck. God.
00:39:29
Jarrod Dyke
Uh-huh. Okay. Well, it's going to be one of those days. You, you feel for ulcer because they they did, they fronted up a little bit and, and, you know, had some pride and they and put a few over.
00:39:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. I think they weren't, weren't they under yellow at that point too?
00:39:39
Jarrod Dyke
So I give this a possibility.
00:39:41
Grumpy Old Prop
It was just like, yeah, they, they, there was, there was too much space and that's just going to happen.
00:39:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:39:46
Grumpy Old Prop
And again, I, again, learn more about to lose than about ulster, I think in this one to loser.
00:39:46
Jarrod Dyke
Way too much space. Um.
00:39:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Hey, we wouldn't. be
00:39:57
Jarrod Dyke
And if, if things weren't like wild enough for France already, there's another intimate coming through and came on.
00:40:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:40:04
Jarrod Dyke
He came on in this game and he's a little bigger than, than older brother, but probably just as talented because dad was pretty fucking good in his day.
00:40:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:40:14
Jarrod Dyke
So yeah, it's 22.
00:40:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:40:20
Jarrod Dyke
He's six, he's six, four, two 43. He's, he's a happy and he's, and he's not like a loose two 43 that is.
00:40:26
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah toit
00:40:27
Jarrod Dyke
There's bricks right there.
00:40:28
Grumpy Old Prop
wow
00:40:28
Jarrod Dyke
That's a lot of bricks.
00:40:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:40:31
Jarrod Dyke
Excuse me. So yeah, have fun with that. I'm so glad we're not to lose this pool.
00:40:39
Grumpy Old Prop
right
00:40:39
Jarrod Dyke
All right, last one. Had a big bill and going into it and really disappointing because this is where Bristol are at the disadvantage right now.
00:40:51
Jarrod Dyke
They don't have someone to back up AJ properly.
00:40:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:40:54
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:40:55
Jarrod Dyke
Bernard did an admirable job, but that's not his thing. like They don't have anybody else to step in, and yeah this is why this is kind of where you know letting she walk kind of sucks for them, because I think he would have come in and at least brought the level a little higher than they did.
00:41:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:41:07
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:41:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:41:13
Jarrod Dyke
Maybe not to AJ's level, but a little higher. And it sucks.
00:41:18
Grumpy Old Prop
it does. And that's the problem.
00:41:19
Jarrod Dyke
Not a tough team to play against, anyway.
00:41:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Like this is, this is what I was referencing from from earlier. Like I would have liked to see this match with AJ staying healthy. Because it was, you know, I think it was a match up until then.
00:41:33
Grumpy Old Prop
And then at that point,
00:41:35
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, it's only the first four minutes.
00:41:37
Grumpy Old Prop
It was only the first four minutes. um um I recognize that, but at least it was like, I think Bearsworth were were actually, you know, what I was seeing was good. It was like, okay, you're matching them, at least for now.
00:41:49
Grumpy Old Prop
And and I know it's Leinster, so that could have just been them feeling it out.
00:41:49
Jarrod Dyke
and
00:41:54
Grumpy Old Prop
But I think it says a lot that it was second it didn't really open up until the second half. You know, 52 minutes.
00:42:00
Jarrod Dyke
No, because it was 77.
00:42:01
Grumpy Old Prop
It was that 10 minutes in the second half.
00:42:04
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:42:05
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's really all it takes. Um, in, in, in any small, pretty much in any level of rugby.
00:42:11
Jarrod Dyke
Well.
00:42:12
Grumpy Old Prop
So why should it be a different professional? Like they would, you know, you just switch off or you've worked so freaking hard, um, for so long and you're not really getting much out of it.
00:42:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Cause you don't, your attack is just missing gears.
00:42:25
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:42:27
Grumpy Old Prop
And, uh,
00:42:29
Jarrod Dyke
Couple nuts and bolts out of place.
00:42:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Right, and eventually they're gonna find ways to, you know, you're gonna go to sleep or just, yeah. Just fuck, literally fuck off for 10 minutes, cause you're like, I'm i' done.
00:42:36
Jarrod Dyke
i
00:42:38
Grumpy Old Prop
I need a breather. yes
00:42:41
Jarrod Dyke
and You know, there was ah there was these guys coming off the Leinster bench. I don't know.
00:42:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Fuck. No, it's it's it's a hard tea, it's barrette.
00:42:48
Jarrod Dyke
Snimain and Beret. I don't know who they are, but they look pretty good, too.
00:42:56
Jarrod Dyke
but
00:43:01
Jarrod Dyke
but Yeah, I mean fuck when you have the snowman and Barrett and Doris and Porter and even Gus McCarthy has proven proven his worth like it's like fuck you guys hate you all I Yeah there I think there's a lot of good things going on with them not having mail-ins is another huge problem for them as well
00:43:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And yeah, right. Meanwhile, I look on the other side, then they're bringing on Joe Jenkins.
00:43:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it's just, that yeah.
00:43:26
Jarrod Dyke
um You know, that was, I like him a lot.
00:43:30
Jarrod Dyke
um Jenkins is man meh, meh.
00:43:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:43:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. And massive.
00:43:35
Jarrod Dyke
And you know, and they don't have badly right now. That's he's, he is a loss. I don't, I think people need to understand like he is a massive loss for this team. Big ball carrier, big line out guy, like gets it done in all the places that you need a lock to get it done.
00:43:48
Jarrod Dyke
And sadly he's, you know, he's missing through injury right now and that really sucks.
00:43:50
Grumpy Old Prop
But now you lose him now you lose him and you got to put Joe Owen in and it's like Yeah Yeah Right Meanwhile, yeah young guy yeah young guy mistakes against James Ryan and Joe McCarthy.
00:43:55
Jarrod Dyke
Joe Owen had a good game the other week. I was, so I would have, if we had potted, I was going to talk about him quite a bit, but um he's still a young guy. So, you know, he's going to, he's going to make those young guy mistakes and he definitely made them here.
00:44:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, it's, it's disappointing, but that's not going to help you at all.
00:44:14
Grumpy Old Prop
I Like, come on.
00:44:15
Jarrod Dyke
Even as much as I don't like James Ryan, it's yeah, you still can't make mistakes against this guy because he's a professional.
00:44:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:44:20
Jarrod Dyke
He's been around the block for, you know, a few years now. He's going to take advantage of it.
00:44:26
Grumpy Old Prop
And um last last bit of, um if you weren't aware, from a few weeks ago, Sam Prendergast is fun to watch.
00:44:35
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, yep, yep, yep. Ah, speaking of things that are fun to watch watch and talk about. um
00:44:44
Jarrod Dyke
let's Let's talk about some some things here. um Okay, so I'm sure it's a decent list, but chuck them out there while we got them. Folks that outdid themselves, officials and and coaches and indoor players otherwise.
00:45:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, you know, I thought she'll cock out to himself to be perfectly blunt. I know it's a, um, yeah.
00:45:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, he was good. and I had a couple of Lester plays in my brain, but he was um he was one of the ones on my head in my head there.
00:45:15
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, yes, that's a pretty say.
00:45:16
Jarrod Dyke
Parisรฉ as well on that same note. Fucking hell, he was he was a nuisance. I was like, that's, yeah, he's annoying. I'm glad we only have to play Lester one more time this year.
00:45:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Um, trying to go back through the, through the matches and, and, have a consideration. um
00:45:37
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, printing, you said printing gas. I had him on my list.
00:45:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Pendergrass, yeah.
00:45:39
Jarrod Dyke
Tom Willis, Tom Willis, of Saracens.
00:45:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, Tom Willis had an excellent match. Yeah.
00:45:43
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. He's, he's a monster. Give a shout to Luke Pierce as, as, as, as one does. Cause he's always solid. And I'm glad he, like I said, I'm glad he didn't fuck around with those two reds.
00:45:53
Jarrod Dyke
Like not those, those don't have any place in the game. Send those fuckers off and make sure they get a ban.
00:46:01
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it's just like, because there's a lot of matches where it was like, there wasn't too much of a, not too much of a competition. You know, like monster style, like, you know, I can't really say too much about who I did themselves.
00:46:09
Jarrod Dyke
Nope, yeah.
00:46:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, Oh, George Horn.
00:46:15
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, yep, good one. Talked about him already.
00:46:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:46:19
Jarrod Dyke
Fosse from the Sharks as well.
00:46:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:46:22
Jarrod Dyke
Very good, very good on the day. And then the entire, like that to to put 60 up in Europe is not a small feat, so to lose, and Matisse LaBelle in particular just still impresses me every every time I watch him.
00:46:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:46:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's one of those like He's one of those guys where it's like, you know, he's here.
00:46:37
Jarrod Dyke
Apart from the guys we know.
00:46:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Is he good? I don't and then you're watching him I like to discuss amazing and then later you're like, oh was he that good? I don't know for some reason I have those guys I think we've talked about them in the past Lavelle he may have even been one of them that I've discussed in the past so
00:46:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. That's a possibility as well. um Shot the bet a bit.
00:47:03
Grumpy Old Prop
That's a good question. Who shot the bed?
00:47:04
Jarrod Dyke
Sale.
00:47:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Say I'll shot the bed. Exeter.
00:47:07
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:47:08
Grumpy Old Prop
But that's...
00:47:08
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I put Baxter in particular, like just,
00:47:09
Grumpy Old Prop
that Yeah.
00:47:12
Jarrod Dyke
I'm sorry, dude, your your your style is a has been at this point, either adapt or quit.
00:47:18
Jarrod Dyke
Those are your choices at this point.
00:47:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:47:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, or just keep going because fuck you, Exeter.
00:47:21
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, um I yeah say that's true.
00:47:22
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm i'm fine with i'm fine with that.
00:47:23
Jarrod Dyke
I'll give you that. I'll give you that. i'll I'll let them drown and continue to just suck it.
00:47:27
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, the the, um, oh, the, the, the star, France shot the bed, especially those two red cards.
00:47:32
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, the whole the whole lot of them.
00:47:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:47:34
Jarrod Dyke
Yep, the whole lot of them. I agree. I put yo yo on this list, the fucking idiot from too long.
00:47:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Yup. Yup. Yeah. He was, he was close to my deck of the week, but we'll get to that.
00:47:41
Jarrod Dyke
And Andrew, yeah, yeah, he was close to mine too. um And Andrew Brace, blah.
00:47:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm.
00:47:49
Jarrod Dyke
There are many referees that that participated in this weekend that are fooling people into thinking they're good referees.
00:47:54
Jarrod Dyke
He's one of them. Like the whole, when Noel ran into freaking, oh, it's just, ran to the glib, oh, it's just, you know, it's just a coming together. I was like, Noel knew exactly what he was doing and he was doing it on purpose.
00:47:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:48:02
Grumpy Old Prop
no yes that's that's an international player like you have to start like I know he sucks we all know he sucks now he didn't always
00:48:05
Jarrod Dyke
That's a card. Like, get the fuck out of here, you stupid fuck.
00:48:13
Jarrod Dyke
He does.
00:48:15
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:48:16
Jarrod Dyke
Once upon a time and you can rewind the tape. We we had thing nice things to say ah about normal on point.
00:48:18
Grumpy Old Prop
We gave him his, right, gave him his props, but he's like five years past his sell by date. That's just, it's life, right?
00:48:24
Jarrod Dyke
so
00:48:26
Grumpy Old Prop
i I'm not going out there playing around and be myself anymore, and there's a reason. I find it embarrassing.
00:48:32
Grumpy Old Prop
It's like...
00:48:33
Jarrod Dyke
We'll drag you out there when you go 50 and we can get you over the line again.
00:48:33
Grumpy Old Prop
um Yeah, exactly.
00:48:41
Grumpy Old Prop
Damn. And the whole time I'll be like, I should not be out here, I should not be out here, I should not be out here.
00:48:50
Grumpy Old Prop
What the fuck was I thinking? hey Get me off, get me off, get me off, I'm good, I'm done, I'm done.
00:48:51
Jarrod Dyke
No idea. You tell me, Chief. Sub. Shit.
00:49:00
Jarrod Dyke
um
00:49:00
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, no um coach, are we on the coach here or?
00:49:05
Jarrod Dyke
ah Yeah, let's go. Let's go coach young players and ref.
00:49:08
Grumpy Old Prop
um Well, you already said loop here, I think we're we're good there. Ref, certainly, at least on my end.
00:49:13
Jarrod Dyke
I thought Mr. Kaley actually was was someone that stood up for me.
00:49:15
Grumpy Old Prop
ah Which match did he have again?
00:49:17
Jarrod Dyke
So I wanted to give him a little props. He had the Bordeaux Lester match.
00:49:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay. Yes. That, I liked everything about that match. That was, yeah.
00:49:24
Jarrod Dyke
for For him, and we talked about standards. His standard is a little bit lower than normal.
00:49:28
Jarrod Dyke
I thought that was an admirable job he did. And I'm sure Lester will be super happy about me saying that, but you know, I don't think it was that bad.
00:49:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:49:34
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:49:35
Jarrod Dyke
So give him some props when it's there.
00:49:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, but that's also check it, check it would be on my coach of the week list. Cause he's still, they're punching above their weight in both competitions.
00:49:44
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:49:44
Jarrod Dyke
Um, he hasn't, yeah, he hasn't had a ton of time to make his mark on this team either.
00:49:45
Grumpy Old Prop
And it's, it's actually great to see.
00:49:50
Jarrod Dyke
So it's impressive with the ways you will do. Um, I went home super Homer and went with McCall.
00:49:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:49:56
Grumpy Old Prop
That's that was he's on my list because like he navigated a tough opponent in really tough conditions that like kind of favor the the but visiting team in a lot of ways and wow Yeah Yeah I
00:50:04
Jarrod Dyke
Mm-hmm.
00:50:07
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, you kicked it sideways and it went five meters backwards. Like, but I mean, at least they, and they adapted. They were just like, we're doing tap and goes now. Fuck it. We don't have a choice.
00:50:18
Jarrod Dyke
Let's just go balling in. And I think it did them some favors too, but different story for today.
00:50:21
Grumpy Old Prop
It did too it forced there it like it was one of those things where I think if McCall had his full way, and this is why I kind of tried away from it, is I think if they could have played the way McCall wanted wanted them to play and, and, and, you know, done a lot of more kicking and all that, it would have cost them because again, their kick, they kept kick. It was a win. It was your end of the win. And like, if it was just a little bit less and it wasn't doing that, he would have just had him do it. And I don't think that would have helped him.
00:50:47
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, whereas like to to force them to run it a little bit and you know, not eating anything for touch, just like our, especially was middle of the field. It's like, just gotta just run.
00:50:56
Jarrod Dyke
Just gotta tap and go. Let's go.
00:50:57
Jarrod Dyke
They got the bulk hairs.
00:50:57
Grumpy Old Prop
And like, ah they they, they actually do well playing rugby like that.
00:51:01
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's our, our, one of our biggest problems with Nicole. So I was like, eh, he kind of, he kind of fell back in the old ways, but at the same time, I think he was like, I think he was saved a little bit by the, by the wind.
00:51:12
Jarrod Dyke
possibly. Yeah. Yup. Uh, young player.
00:51:15
Grumpy Old Prop
himself. um It's tough for me because there's so many um players who I just don't know. And I'm like, Oh, well, they look young and all that.
00:51:26
Grumpy Old Prop
So I'm gonna refrain from naming a young player and the go ahead.
00:51:28
Jarrod Dyke
Oh, I got mine. and Henry Pollock was an absolute monster for Northampton this weekend and you know, truck sign is signing elsewhere.
00:51:34
Grumpy Old Prop
He was okay. No, he was amazing. That's it. Yeah, he was.
00:51:42
Jarrod Dyke
He's why.
00:51:43
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:51:43
Jarrod Dyke
Because they're very confident with what they have with him. Now, having him and Pearson and Pollock in the back row is terrifying. Like, if Saints can pull their shit together in the prem, that's a force to be reckoned with.
00:51:59
Jarrod Dyke
Have fun.
00:52:00
Grumpy Old Prop
And they still have um oh Which which of the Aussies in there in the mix to like yeah um Who's not bad?
00:52:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yes, why? No. Yep, they have him too. There's some good players.
00:52:10
Grumpy Old Prop
It's just like oh, yeah fuck
00:52:10
Jarrod Dyke
Sam Graham, if when he when he gets healthy, so get he'll be healthy in like a month or two, I think. He did his like pretty bad. um Anyway, ah try the week.
00:52:21
Grumpy Old Prop
I think I gotta go with that Billy B.R.A. Try out the kick.
00:52:24
Jarrod Dyke
It's a good one.
00:52:25
Jarrod Dyke
i also I also went French. I went with... um Sarah, the one after Villiers lit up lip hoc.
00:52:25
Grumpy Old Prop
um
00:52:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:52:33
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, that's awesome.
00:52:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yes.
00:52:36
Jarrod Dyke
That's that's everything in road being one shot right there.
00:52:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:52:38
Jarrod Dyke
ah
00:52:41
Grumpy Old Prop
physical wing just destroying attend what the fuck um that doesn't make sense but okay it happened um and then yeah sort of but you love to see it it's like when my puppy thinks she's a human my back thinks he's a forward no but he actually don't he sorry i'm not doing that he he that was awesome and he deserves props for it not we're not scoring for not being a forward anyway
00:52:46
Jarrod Dyke
Lovely. Beautiful stuff. Point of the week.
00:52:57
Jarrod Dyke
yeah They do that sometimes. Oh, he takes these people.
00:53:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:53:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um And then dick of the week I had, um, we've talked about it enough, but Baptiste presenti, um, for that.
00:53:22
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:53:24
Grumpy Old Prop
Fuck, what are you doing?
00:53:26
Jarrod Dyke
my My dick of the week is flow rugby because they're totally they're doing it again They're completely fucking this thing up for everyone And I know people over in the uk sounds like they have their own issues with their own tv prior so maybe bcr needs to maybe just reconsider who they are giving these contracts to because Maybe they're going for like the highest bidder But also like are they going for the one that's going to give them the best exposure at the same time like flow has no ties to Any major networks here in the united states so they can't get it on tv
00:53:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:53:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:53:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:53:55
Jarrod Dyke
You have to have the app, you have to pay for the app.
00:53:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:53:58
Jarrod Dyke
as well. So, and also while you pay for the app, by the way, you get slideshow rugby, Quinn's and Ross English slideshow review for the first 10, 15 minutes.
00:53:59
Grumpy Old Prop
And that's the thing.
00:54:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm. It was.
00:54:06
Jarrod Dyke
And then you get only a half on your replay, which as I mentioned before, monster and stop from sake. Thank you. Thankfully it wasn't that competitive of the match. So not a big deal, but still you can't have that shit happen.
00:54:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:54:16
Jarrod Dyke
Was was it last year or two years ago when flow had it and the round to 16, they cocked up like three or four of the games. And I was like, dude, that's half the fucking, It's half the knockout round that you just told of this for this weekend that you just totally messed up like either not having the replays available or having or having only half of them available or just not having the string available at all.
00:54:37
Jarrod Dyke
like the So yeah, fuck you flow.
00:54:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah You guys you gotta get to think of you know, I Mean, I guess you gotta go to the highest bidder but at the same time like I
00:54:40
Jarrod Dyke
I hate you.
00:54:50
Jarrod Dyke
Is the next highest bidder that much lower than this?
00:54:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. But because yeah, as you said, like we, we, we personally know people because we, we we chat with, um, with the, the overseas folks, the funny talkers sometimes, um, who are like, we're not going to buy this service. It's too expensive.
00:55:09
Jarrod Dyke
It's just, or it's one too many, and which is annoying as hell.
00:55:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Exactly.
00:55:11
Jarrod Dyke
and And I get it.
00:55:12
Grumpy Old Prop
That too. It's like, it's, we got to kind of unify it so much easier.
00:55:12
Jarrod Dyke
I get that.
00:55:16
Grumpy Old Prop
Like. and better for the sport. Again, it's about more exposure. Exposure will bring more money. you get like The TV deals are good, but like you're going to get better advertising revenue if more people see it. You've got to weigh one against the other. I don't think that's being done. I think they're just like, oh, this is more. but It's more upfront, but what about in the back end?
00:55:39
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, yeah, I figured that out. Did we do play of the week?
00:55:45
Grumpy Old Prop
No. Who you got?
00:55:48
Jarrod Dyke
See you, Khaleesi. Played his old position and rocked it for the shocks.
00:55:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, um, Kent. Yeah. And I got, I, I'm coming with George horn. hello He, ah he amused me if nothing else.
00:56:01
Jarrod Dyke
Hey, I like it.
00:56:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Um, you know, and obviously like he played, he had a hell of a match and the yellow card, all that they give the, as you said, kind of a Gordie how, right.
00:56:10
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, he did indeed. Gordie, how s cat trick s type of thing going on with that one.
00:56:21
Grumpy Old Prop
We got to figure out a name for that. All right, not a name for the equivalent for it.
00:56:24
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah. If anybody doesn't know what it is, it's a nice hockey term. You get, it's a, you get a goal. You can assist and get into a fight.
00:56:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:56:33
Jarrod Dyke
So someone to help us out with that one. All right. Um, we have pickums to do here.
00:56:41
Grumpy Old Prop
We do.
00:56:42
Jarrod Dyke
All right, so we got two Friday games. I'll start with sale and Rossing at home to sale.
00:56:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Rossing.
00:56:49
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, I just, we didn't learn much, but I also, ah but I'm also pretty sure Rossing will have at least one more player back, maybe two, and then I'll help them.
00:56:52
Grumpy Old Prop
I have a lot of.
00:56:57
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, I I have I I have a lot of away teams playing or winning should say Yeah monster No, I
00:57:04
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, ah I do too. um Cast Munster. So yeah, cast a look like they're about this right now. um Bulls, Northampton.
00:57:17
Grumpy Old Prop
Have bulls
00:57:18
Jarrod Dyke
I do too. I know Northampton is going to go down there and probably get a point, but Bulls have to win this. Otherwise they're definitely out of this competition. They're more or less out of this competition. They certainly aren't going to be hosting.
00:57:28
Jarrod Dyke
They're going to be traveling.
00:57:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:57:30
Jarrod Dyke
They don't want that.
00:57:33
Jarrod Dyke
Ulster Bordeaux.
00:57:36
Grumpy Old Prop
bordeaux Bordeaux.
00:57:37
Jarrod Dyke
sort Porto. Lester Clamont.
00:57:40
Grumpy Old Prop
Lancer.
00:57:41
Jarrod Dyke
Lester.
00:57:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:57:42
Jarrod Dyke
Yep. Yep. Lester and Shocks.
00:57:46
Grumpy Old Prop
I have the shocks.
00:57:48
Jarrod Dyke
You do? I'm going to go, I'm going to go Tigers.
00:57:51
Jarrod Dyke
Cause I don't, I don't, I don't believe that the sharks are going to send a strong team.
00:57:51
Grumpy Old Prop
I just.
00:57:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, that's a good point. They might not.
00:57:57
Jarrod Dyke
That's my only concern. Like if they send a full noise team, then yeah, sharks are probably going to want it.
00:58:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. All right.
00:58:02
Jarrod Dyke
But for now, i'mnna I'm going to, I'm going to hold it at Lester for now.
00:58:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Fair enough.
00:58:06
Jarrod Dyke
Um, La Rochelle and Bristol.
00:58:10
Grumpy Old Prop
La Rochelle.
00:58:11
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, sorry bears.
00:58:12
Grumpy Old Prop
They're at home. I, who knows if, if AJ's not playing, I don't know what it was.
00:58:15
Jarrod Dyke
I mean, they're probably still rearranging his rib cage. Let's be honest, like Ringrose went right through him pretty much.
00:58:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:58:22
Jarrod Dyke
I was like, oh, it was totally clean too.
00:58:24
Jarrod Dyke
That was the most beautiful thing about it. It was like, that's super clean and it just hurts a lot. He's not young anymore.
00:58:24
Grumpy Old Prop
It was, it was.
00:58:31
Jarrod Dyke
It doesn't help him.
00:58:31
Grumpy Old Prop
It's like I it's funny because I just saw a video of um if if even if you watched like any like highlights of the NFL you've seen um the Sheldon Brown on um Shit, who was that running Reggie Bush?
00:58:44
Grumpy Old Prop
Hit where he just like cleans it straight through. it I saw a clip of Reggie Bush watching that for the first time um which hu I think with Matt Leonard or something like that.
00:58:55
Grumpy Old Prop
It was hilarious because he's like
00:58:55
Jarrod Dyke
You must have been like, Oh, no, what does that hurt?
00:58:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. like He's like, I thought he killed me. He's like, I thought I was dying right there. Like I thought I was dead. And then I was just, I was taking my last breaths for trying to and it was like, he's like, but suddenly it felt okay.
00:59:05
Jarrod Dyke
That's funny. Oof.
00:59:10
Grumpy Old Prop
It was weird.
00:59:11
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm.
00:59:13
Grumpy Old Prop
But yeah, anyway, it was ah some similar to that.
00:59:13
Jarrod Dyke
That's so.
00:59:16
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
00:59:17
Grumpy Old Prop
of
00:59:18
Jarrod Dyke
Ouch. Quims and Stormers.
00:59:23
Grumpy Old Prop
I got the Harlequins. I think they're going to be a little angry.
00:59:24
Jarrod Dyke
I do too.
00:59:27
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, and Stormers didn't win the last game.
00:59:28
Grumpy Old Prop
And stormers are aware.
00:59:29
Jarrod Dyke
I don't know if I can send a full noise team here.
00:59:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:59:31
Jarrod Dyke
Libox clearly gonna miss this one as well.
00:59:32
Grumpy Old Prop
Exactly.
00:59:33
Jarrod Dyke
And they're banged up too. Another team's very banged up as well.
00:59:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:59:36
Jarrod Dyke
Not helpful at all. So yeah.
00:59:37
Grumpy Old Prop
Not at all.
00:59:38
Jarrod Dyke
And as long as the queens don't deploy Lee half-penny at full back, stop doing that please.
00:59:42
Grumpy Old Prop
What the fuck was that? What was that?
00:59:43
Jarrod Dyke
um Anybody not Lee half not Lee half-penny.
00:59:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah. Come on.
00:59:48
Jarrod Dyke
We'll do better. Even if green's not healthy.
00:59:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Just cause again, it's like that Jack no thing. Like just cause he's a name. I get it. His name is Lee half penny. And you know, five years ago, that really meant a lot. Um, yeah, we read that.
01:00:02
Jarrod Dyke
Might be generous five years.
01:00:04
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that's true. Seven years ago, that might've meant something bath Saracens.
01:00:06
Jarrod Dyke
Um, yeah, there you go. Uh, better than in path. I am too.
01:00:15
Jarrod Dyke
I'm going with dot, um, starting Saracens. Yep.
01:00:23
Grumpy Old Prop
I don't know that starter.
01:00:23
Jarrod Dyke
Boys are going to, I don't know if they're at this and again, another team, they're going to be missing two guys for sure.
01:00:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:00:29
Jarrod Dyke
Um, Yeah. And I don't know who knows if they're taking this competition seriously or not.
01:00:29
Grumpy Old Prop
Yep.
01:00:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Exactly. I don't I don't think they are. I don't i've I don't have I have the ah um
01:00:41
Grumpy Old Prop
i I just get the impression first or you know, I associate them with just not taking champions come seriously so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pick them until they actually show it to me because I Don't think this is their first time just saying fuck it.
01:00:47
Jarrod Dyke
Mm hmm. Great.
01:00:53
Grumpy Old Prop
We don't want to be a part of this Yeah, that's like them in cast I've just done like no neither of them want to be here and
01:00:54
Jarrod Dyke
No, and and they did it for like. three out of four weeks, a couple of years ago, and they end up qualifying for the knockouts and they got smushed. So, you know.
01:01:07
Jarrod Dyke
No, it feels like it at least.
01:01:09
Grumpy Old Prop
And Claremont, I think, if I have that right.
01:01:11
Jarrod Dyke
No, Claremont are definitely gonna, this is like, they are forever
01:01:12
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
01:01:17
Jarrod Dyke
the bridesmaid in this competition.
01:01:18
Jarrod Dyke
They want them and Rossy want this thing bad. Even if their seasons in the league are not going well, they want this fucking thing so bad.
01:01:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
01:01:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Gotcha.
01:01:27
Jarrod Dyke
So yeah.
01:01:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay. Then maybe it was in one of the other French teams that is no longer in this competition, thankfully.
01:01:32
Jarrod Dyke
Probably bam.
01:01:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
01:01:35
Jarrod Dyke
No. Yeah, they might take seriously and they so they still pants sex or when they when they play them, which was awesome.
01:01:42
Grumpy Old Prop
ah
01:01:44
Jarrod Dyke
Too long and Glasgow.
01:01:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Not too long Mm-hmm Right, right Yeah ah Yeah That's gonna be like that.
01:01:47
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, at home. This was in Glasgow. I did them a shout, but it's in France. So, sorry guys. I like you a lot, but yeah maybe not that much. I mean, if they do it, they're announcing everyone to the in this competition. Do not sleep on us.
01:02:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah that shocked me and I was not familiar with your game left to excuse me like I Have to apologize now.
01:02:07
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah, definitely.
01:02:09
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean I am familiar with their game.
01:02:09
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
01:02:10
Grumpy Old Prop
I just don't know if it's good enough
01:02:12
Jarrod Dyke
Yeah.
Champions Discussion & Humor
01:02:13
Jarrod Dyke
ah Fuck sticks and to lose.
01:02:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Man I have no idea in this one. It's good. It's Their neck and neck. I mean the exit or a recent champions come champions themselves Yeah, exactly No, it's it's to lose all day
01:02:19
Jarrod Dyke
with How big are the necks? but
01:02:29
Jarrod Dyke
It is. It is, it is.
Fantasy Corner & Listener Invitation
01:02:32
Jarrod Dyke
All right. Okay, so that's that. We're going to head over to the fantasy corner. um If you're going to join us there, we'll see you over there. If not, we appreciate you very much for listening to us babble
Gratitude & Future Events
01:02:43
Jarrod Dyke
for a little bit. Happy to be back.
01:02:45
Jarrod Dyke
Join round two of Champions Cup if you your're if you're into that type of thing. Otherwise, we'll catch you guys next week. Thanks a lot, everyone. Have a good one.
01:02:52
Grumpy Old Prop
Later.
01:02:53
Jarrod Dyke
Cheers.