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Season 6- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Super Final)
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It's the FINAL Fantasy Corner of the season! We are talking all things Super Rugby final and which players we are picking to do the job in the trophy decider. Don't forget those PWR picks friends and make plans to join us next season if you didn't.
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:27
jarrod_dyke
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke.
00:00:31
jarrod_dyke
We're going, it's fancy time, but we don't have that much to talk about. um We'll recap the ah Super Rugby here, and then we'll get into where Champion League standings are sitting now, and that's pretty much gonna be all we got for that.
00:00:31
Grumpy Old Prop
um'm ben glauser
00:00:37
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm Ben Glauser.
Division Movements and Wooden Spoon
00:00:49
jarrod_dyke
um Division one. Uh, been a movement, been swap places with Stu. So, all right. All right.
00:00:59
jarrod_dyke
Ben's making moves. George got the wooden spoon this week.
00:00:59
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:01:01
jarrod_dyke
Damn.
00:01:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Still going for relegation though.
00:01:04
jarrod_dyke
Yeah. You're, you you're in trouble. You, you need to somehow climb to the top after this weekend and make sure Justin stays where he is.
00:01:14
jarrod_dyke
And then it's a tie. In which case somewhere you have to do something over the summer.
00:01:14
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:01:18
Grumpy Old Prop
Eh. Like a quite a flip. Flip by coin.
00:01:21
jarrod_dyke
Um, um and Okay. And then division two, tell you one second. Oh yeah. So the order is Cobus, Mark, Ben, Stu, George, myself, Duncan, and Justin. Division two is
00:01:40
jarrod_dyke
um, party and every swap places. So as there's a little bit of movement there. Paul, who's on top had the yellow hat. So there you go. Um, Paul Franco, Barty, Abri, Luke, and Alex. And then Anton Paul in the rear because you didn't bother to put a team in lazy fucker. Um, just speaking facts over here, you know, we can update the super, the champions league standings in terms of, cause we ended super rugby, FRD, and we ended Premiere ship over the last couple of weeks here.
00:02:11
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm. Hmm.
Spelling Mishap and Super Rugby Review
00:02:16
jarrod_dyke
Jared can't spell, that shouldn't shock anybody. There we go.
00:02:22
jarrod_dyke
Premiere sip.
00:02:25
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:02:25
jarrod_dyke
I it again, damn, oh, because I copied and pasted. That's why. and Say, wait a minute, did I do that twice? No, I just copied and pasted it. So technically I did, but you know. Anyway, so we had, In Super Rugby FRD, we had George in first, Mark in second, Justin and I shared points in a semi-final losers. ah Duncan's two shared points as semifinal winners in the SACO bracket, and Coba said the one single point for for you against you there, buddy. Could've helped you.
00:02:57
jarrod_dyke
And then for division two was Anton ah in first party and second, I believe it was Alex, shared semifinal with player X who just spoils things and does nobody at any points, which sucks for everybody else.
00:02:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:03:12
jarrod_dyke
um Luke and Paul had three apiece as SACO winners, ah winners in in the semi-final and then Franco won the Zacho ball, so he yeah ah got a point on that. Premiership Superbrew, which was rearrraned was arranged a little differently, had Cobas on top and Stewart second, myself in third, George Ben, Duncan, Mark, Justin, so points are 10, eight, seven, six, four, three, two, zero, and that. And then again, we had one spoiler in division two because
00:03:12
Grumpy Old Prop
but
00:03:45
jarrod_dyke
Somebody else is in there and crashing the party. But Alex won, so we got 10 out of that. ah Paul Franco Anton, Avery Barty, Luke at the bottom.
00:03:51
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm.
00:03:54
jarrod_dyke
So the standings after all that business, or some some people from a certain region of the country might say that John.
00:04:06
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, yes. Although...
00:04:09
jarrod_dyke
There's some weird people that say it.
00:04:10
Grumpy Old Prop
I'll allow it. I'll allow it. yes
00:04:13
jarrod_dyke
One of my good coaching friends says it a lot. So, he's a piece of work.
00:04:20
Grumpy Old Prop
it's it's It's like, um if you're from Philly, it's like Smurf.
00:04:26
Grumpy Old Prop
if if you If you're old enough to remember that, where the Smurfs would would use Smurf for anything, that's good.
00:04:30
jarrod_dyke
Smurf, yeah.
00:04:31
jarrod_dyke
but
00:04:33
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, yeah.
00:04:33
Grumpy Old Prop
it's it's But it's usually referring to a thing. <unk>s It's very rarely verbing or or whatnot, but it's allowable.
00:04:43
jarrod_dyke
Yeah, they just throw it everywhere. I swear they really do.
00:04:46
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:04:47
jarrod_dyke
I was smurfing there.
00:04:50
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, Oscar.
00:04:51
jarrod_dyke
Exactly.
Division Standings and Promotion Insights
00:04:53
jarrod_dyke
Anyway, the, um, the standings in division one, George is sitting on top with Stu in second and Cobas in third. That's where that's the tightest right there. Those three. Um, but George has a good five, six point lead on either of them. So they're going to have to do some business in this coming, this coming week. ah Mark Duncan myself kind of right in that middle cluster and then it's Justin and Ben. Ben's got a chance but it's a chance.
00:05:18
jarrod_dyke
It's like shipping a chair so you got a chance type of thing.
00:05:19
Grumpy Old Prop
So you're saying there's a chance.
00:05:22
jarrod_dyke
um It looks all for money that Alex is going to be the one that's promoted. So good on Alex. for Well done buddy. He's got 41 and mathematically it's impossible for Franco to catch him. So well done Alex. He's going to be joining division one next year. Would be good to have you up there bud. Franco. Paul, Barty, Anton, Abri, Luke, round out the standings there.
00:05:23
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:05:45
jarrod_dyke
Yeah, Alex just killed it. and He got, because he got first in Premiership and then he got one of the semi-finalists in Super Rugby and that's just, yeah, that really didn't. And plus he obviously participated in the World Cup ones, which helped as well. So any, any once, oh yeah, he won two competitions so far. He's won six nations and he's won, um, Premiership, uh, Superbrew as well.
00:06:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Hmm.
00:06:08
jarrod_dyke
So. When a couple usually gives you a shot, that's for sure.
00:06:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, that'll that'll help.
00:06:14
jarrod_dyke
Yeah.
00:06:18
jarrod_dyke
so it was Same idea for George too. he He's won, he won one of the Rugby World Cups, and he won Super Rugby FRD, and he's been in contention for pretty much everything right through.
00:06:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:06:29
jarrod_dyke
Yeah, he hasn't been at the bottom of anything, so that's obviously helpful as well.
PWR Final Picks Debate
00:06:35
Grumpy Old Prop
it is sure let's do it as as they say um so my my picks um i did a split so i'm i i chose emma sing for the semis so she's out for me uh as my kicker so i went with holly aterson duh kind of process of elimination there
00:06:36
jarrod_dyke
Anyway, uh, we want to do PWR picks for the final. All right. So.
00:06:55
jarrod_dyke
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:07:01
jarrod_dyke
Is it, well, is it going to be eight years or is it going to be read?
00:07:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Well, I will have to see. um ah you know Again, this this is subject to change.
00:07:06
jarrod_dyke
Yeah.
00:07:09
Grumpy Old Prop
um Just for now, that's that's where i that's where I am.
00:07:10
jarrod_dyke
yeah Yeah.
00:07:14
Grumpy Old Prop
um And then my forwards, I went on the the Gloucester Harpery side with Alex Matthews since she didn't play. I'm not sure if she's gonna play, but that's again, so yeah, that may end up changing.
00:07:22
jarrod_dyke
I think she's hurt. That might be the answer to that. But I think she's hurt. I don't swear. I won't swear on it. But I think she's hurt.
00:07:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, right. um I'm hoping against hope that she plays anyway. um And but my, ah um my back is me event.
00:07:33
jarrod_dyke
Mm hmm.
00:07:40
jarrod_dyke
There you go. Nice. That's a good one. Yeah, I picked her in the semi worked out worked out. Okay, so I am gonna go with um so my kicker, I'm gonna say read, I think I think it's been read for a little bit now.
00:07:48
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:07:55
jarrod_dyke
So I'm gonna say read.
00:07:56
jarrod_dyke
um But again, subject change, if we find out if other information, otherwise, um I'm gonna go with
00:07:56
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:08:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:08:05
jarrod_dyke
I'm torn between Aldecroft and Beckett. It might be a game time decision, but I'm going to go with one of those two. I should have them both available because I picked the Saracens forward and the semi, so it shouldn't be a problem. And then I'm going to pick, uh, Pip Hendy for my back from, from Gloucester.
00:08:19
Grumpy Old Prop
Okay.
00:08:20
jarrod_dyke
I picked Vener one game.
00:08:21
jarrod_dyke
I'm going to pick Hendy this game. Hopefully it's a similar result.
00:08:21
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:08:26
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah
00:08:26
jarrod_dyke
All right. Now let's do a little this or that. And then we have a whole one game to pick and then we're out of here.
00:08:34
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:08:35
jarrod_dyke
This is, that would be the longest though, for sure.
00:08:36
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh.
00:08:37
jarrod_dyke
Um, okay.
00:08:38
Grumpy Old Prop
Likely.
00:08:39
jarrod_dyke
So prop in super rugby final here. It's two on the Fosse and who else? Is it Tava if he's healthy? Is it, um, anybody else? Like.
00:08:54
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, you might go Reuben. I don't know. It's hard. I think probably stick with the blues, though.
00:08:59
jarrod_dyke
Yeah.
00:09:01
jarrod_dyke
Yeah. I think the answer is tongue of Fosse and Tava if he's healthy. And if not, yeah, like pick your favorite prop. Otherwise, because it's kind of a toss up between the other three probably.
00:09:02
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:09:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:09:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. Exactly.
00:09:13
jarrod_dyke
ah If all are healthy, like Yahoo or Rick Itali.
00:09:15
Grumpy Old Prop
But. They're not. Like they're. They're. Oh, Rick, it's Hallie.
00:09:20
jarrod_dyke
Okay.
00:09:23
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, that's what well, because I know I'm pretty sure talking. I was not playing.
00:09:25
jarrod_dyke
He's not gonna play.
00:09:26
Grumpy Old Prop
um I saw a report that the chiefs are like, yeah, we we are.
00:09:27
jarrod_dyke
We'll find out. We'll find out tonight.
00:09:30
Grumpy Old Prop
They're scrambling with for their for like they're in like an emergency situation for their hookers.
00:09:33
jarrod_dyke
yeah and hold on you armura ah
00:09:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah transfer him in for just Yeah I Don't I don't have any I
00:09:42
jarrod_dyke
Oh, take, um, that was the guy that filled in fresh a little bit. Kira signs are the old free Jack's guy. You can have him. You didn't play that much. Go ahead. Play it. Play with him. Um, anyway, second row. Do we know if two Pilots is healthy? Number one.
00:10:02
jarrod_dyke
Cause if he's, if he's healthy, he's definitely in, and then probably by you, right? Especially where you don't have a salary cap.
00:10:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, um, yeah, that's basically like phi um And then maybe whoever the other lock is for the chiefs like and this might be that the chiefs if tui pelaji is not playing It might be both chiefs Yeah Although didn't aqua come off hurt too I thought he exited
00:10:21
jarrod_dyke
Might be the other guy, which was Jimmy Tupo this past weekend, I think, but maybe Akoi, if it's him, that'd be a fun, i'd I'd be okay with that.
00:10:32
jarrod_dyke
Did he? I don't know, he came off the bench.
00:10:35
jarrod_dyke
But yeah, oh yeah, he came off for an HIA. That's what it was, came off an HIA.
00:10:36
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah and then's Yeah.
00:10:39
Grumpy Old Prop
So I don't know there.
00:10:40
jarrod_dyke
So if yeah, if that's a confirmed concussion, then he's out, so.
00:10:45
Grumpy Old Prop
Right. So that's where I'm nervous about that.
00:10:46
jarrod_dyke
Huh? Yeah, no, I would be too. So the back row is definitely a 2-2 and it's a TT.
00:10:55
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:10:56
jarrod_dyke
And then it's kind of a toss up at that third spot, like Papa Lee, Jacobson, Finau, maybe Akira, like there's...
00:10:57
Grumpy Old Prop
And then.
00:11:03
Grumpy Old Prop
Akira I would I would I would look for to Akira or Papa Lee over um Jacobson or Feenow myself but Feenow could also like again that that could also be a ah um you know I mean if you know put one down in the semis didn't expect that so it's right so there you go
00:11:20
jarrod_dyke
He did.
00:11:23
jarrod_dyke
Then he got a card too, which was not helpful.
00:11:27
jarrod_dyke
That wasn't helpful.
00:11:30
jarrod_dyke
Um, is there any reason to not pick Cortez Rodimos to assuming he starts?
00:11:37
Grumpy Old Prop
No.
00:11:38
jarrod_dyke
Yeah.
00:11:38
jarrod_dyke
I think he'll be, I think he'll be but heavily selected.
00:11:39
Grumpy Old Prop
Not at all.
00:11:42
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:11:45
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm yeah, I'm kind of happy that I don't have to make that a change there.
00:11:47
jarrod_dyke
No, no, no change required there.
00:11:48
Grumpy Old Prop
That's like my yeah. Yeah.
00:11:53
jarrod_dyke
Yeah. You don't like DMACC the player, but DMACC the fantasy player.
00:11:58
Grumpy Old Prop
Absolutely. Um.
00:11:59
jarrod_dyke
I, you could argue for Harry Plummer the way he's come on and then at the end of the season here. Um, but D max been the most consistent throughout the season that that I don't think there's an argument against that.
00:12:10
Grumpy Old Prop
Right.
00:12:10
jarrod_dyke
But yeah, like, I mean, plumbers got a 22 and 18, uh, you know, a couple of 14 and a 20 in the last couple of games. So he's not awful.
00:12:19
jarrod_dyke
But without having ah a cap or a team limit, it's kind of hard to just say, no, I'm going to, I'm going to pick plumber over Mackenzie.
00:12:20
Grumpy Old Prop
Right, it's not terrible.
00:12:26
jarrod_dyke
It's really just one of those things where it's like I'm picking against the, the spread or against the, you know, against everyone else because you want to be contrarian and try and move.
00:12:26
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, no.
00:12:35
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:12:39
Grumpy Old Prop
right and i'm not gonna probably yeah yeah you kind of like throw a dart um
00:12:41
jarrod_dyke
midfield's probably the most interesting of this whole thing, because the best ones out for a long time has been out for a long time. And the yeah and the so next best one, Luke is also out. So it's ALB and maybe your favorite person after that.
00:12:58
jarrod_dyke
Yeah, Rico's not been amazing this year. So it's hard to say him. If Tupiah starts, I might pick him. Honestly, I'd like to see him start though.
00:13:08
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah, it might go both of the, um or Rona maybe if he's at wing, um which would go him.
00:13:13
jarrod_dyke
If he's at wing, that'd be a good one. Yep. I agree with that.
00:13:17
Grumpy Old Prop
So that's that's that's that, that's where I would go there.
00:13:18
jarrod_dyke
Yep. Is it as easy in the back three to just say Clark Tollea and your favorite cheese but back three player?
00:13:27
Grumpy Old Prop
yeah Yes.
00:13:27
jarrod_dyke
Okay.
00:13:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Yes.
00:13:30
jarrod_dyke
So assuming after deliberation, yeah, let me know.
00:13:31
Grumpy Old Prop
After, after, hmm, I've come to the the conclusion that yes, that's, that's where you go.
00:13:42
jarrod_dyke
No, Stevenson, no, I was kind of falling off, unfortunately. But um yeah, if Stevenson doesn't get healthy than does seems it seems it.
00:13:50
Grumpy Old Prop
i and I don't know that I would pick him anyway, cause he keeps dropping. It's like the the second time in the, like a third time in the last like four weeks of competition where he's dropped late. I don't know that I would trust him.
00:14:02
jarrod_dyke
Who's your captain?
00:14:08
Grumpy Old Prop
That's a very good question. And right now I don't know.
00:14:10
jarrod_dyke
Hmm.
00:14:18
Grumpy Old Prop
I'm leaning towards the two-two, I think.
00:14:18
jarrod_dyke
Same, same. I had Talia kind of secondary in my brain, but I think the, I think a final lends itself to a forward a little bit more.
00:14:27
jarrod_dyke
So I'm going to say coo two, two.
00:14:28
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:14:30
Grumpy Old Prop
Although I would not um would not sleep on Ratama as an outside option.
00:14:35
jarrod_dyke
No, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a fun option. I don't, I don't hate it. Honestly.
00:14:41
Grumpy Old Prop
because
Final Predictions and Closing Remarks
00:14:42
Grumpy Old Prop
he's a guy who could um just end up going off and he's going to try, like, you know, try without the the card.
00:14:43
jarrod_dyke
Yep.
00:14:50
Grumpy Old Prop
So, um yeah.
00:14:51
jarrod_dyke
that be That'd be a good idea.
00:14:53
jarrod_dyke
Yes, yes. Without the oops.
00:14:54
Grumpy Old Prop
Oh, yes.
00:14:58
jarrod_dyke
That way. No, he he's he's definitely not lagging on that one.
00:14:59
Grumpy Old Prop
And he has no problem with the must go faster part.
00:15:04
Grumpy Old Prop
He's got that part.
00:15:05
jarrod_dyke
Must go faster. Must go faster. He does look like he's ah he's got a cheetah chasing him almost every time he's carrying it though.
00:15:12
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm-hmm. Yeah I'm
00:15:13
jarrod_dyke
Once he gets into open space. Don't catch me, please.
00:15:20
jarrod_dyke
But yes, no, definitely not a problem for him with the going faster part.
00:15:24
Grumpy Old Prop
gonna go to Chiefs
00:15:26
jarrod_dyke
All right, pick him. Who wins?
00:15:37
Grumpy Old Prop
i'm gonna go with the chiefs
00:15:39
jarrod_dyke
You know, I'd like to think that last year's loss gave them some lessons that they can take into this and we'll help them win it. So I am going to give them that. I know it's against the odds because they only just won their first, first super Ruby playoff game on the road last week, but Hey, now they got the momentum.
00:15:53
Grumpy Old Prop
Yeah.
00:15:53
jarrod_dyke
Maybe they'll figure it out. So yeah, I'd like, I think it'd be great if they could fix the, the wrongs of last year and, and get this one over the line.
00:16:04
jarrod_dyke
Really do really do. Really, really do. And either way, it's a, it's a good story for both, for both teams. Really. We're in Carter coming in his first season and and doing what he did with the blues and blues obviously have had a long, long title drought as well.
00:16:05
Grumpy Old Prop
Would be nice.
00:16:13
Grumpy Old Prop
Mm hmm.
00:16:19
jarrod_dyke
So either way, there's, there's nice stories on either end of it. So, uh, but yeah, I do hope it's the chief said we're able to come over the line and prevail.
00:16:29
Grumpy Old Prop
I mean, you know, might as well, right? They beat, it's like, yeah.
00:16:32
jarrod_dyke
I said for one week to Mitchell, I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to be a liar.
00:16:39
jarrod_dyke
Not making me a liar today, at least. All right. And there you have it. Like I said, nice, nice and quick, nice and quick.
00:16:46
Grumpy Old Prop
There we go. Nice and tight. wait
00:16:49
jarrod_dyke
Wasn't a dawdling or dilly-dallying in the whole thing. ah But yeah, we will put the rankings out ah when they, when the lives come out. But other than that, enjoy the final this week, everyone. Thanks for listening to us the whole year and up until this point. And we'll catch you guys next week. Have a good one, everyone.
00:17:09
jarrod_dyke
Cheers
00:17:09
Grumpy Old Prop
Later.