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10lbs of Candy

The American Craftsman Podcast
The American Craftsman Podcast

66 plays · May 19, 2023

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Speaker: Welcome back to the show. And good morning. Yeah. It's a six 51 AM coffee and podcast. Yeah. I figured, um, but usually the most part you've been doing it on Wednesdays lately. Yeah. Today's Thursday. Um, we had a late, late delivery yesterday, which kind of just, you know, figured,

Speaker: just pushed the podcast to Thursday. Worked out better for me too with my tasks, the timing of it. Yeah. Yeah. It, uh, it, a lot of times it's, it's rough in the afternoon to just cut out early. And cause you get on a roll a lot of times there. Usually you're in the middle of something. Yeah. Cause I got to stop like three, three PM. Um, but yeah. Uh, I want to thank our sponsor. Hey, Flo.

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Speaker: Yeah. And, uh, it's catered. Yeah. Beautiful showroom, um, in the, it's what, the Flatiron district. Yep. Real close to the building. Yeah. 10 block 11 block walk from Penn station. You know, it'd be springtime. Yeah. Nice time to be in the city. Yeah. We should try and go to the one is a Wednesday, June 7th. All right. Which is the day before Hunter's birthday and graduation.

Speaker: Yeah, I was going to ask you because you told me about the graduation and I told the wife and she's like, oh, yeah, let's go. And then I'm like, what day was that? Yeah, Thursday, the eighth. So anyone interested, they want to come to my son's graduation, preschool graduation. Do not show up. That would be weird. Call the police. That would be that would be weird. Unless I know you personally.

Speaker: Yeah. Well, big development this week was, uh, ironing out the compressor. Yeah. That was what Monday? Yep. Yep. Spent all weekend, uh, tossing it over in my mind. We had to get a soft starter for the compressor.

Speaker: Yep. Yeah. So I think last week that was, you know, one of the main topics of conversation is just trying to get that all figured out because Friday, uh, was it Friday? Yeah. Friday you were messing around with it. Yeah. So Friday we get the, um, the soft starter in the mail.

Speaker: And it just all it came with was a schematic. And no mention of like really how to apply it to a compressor. Right. So, you know, I have limited electrical schematic reading knowledge. I mean, I could kind of trace it.

Speaker: Yeah. I mean, cause it's not a compressor specific soft start. It's just a soft start. Right. And the compressor has that switch, that pressure switch. Yeah. So that had to be, you know, aside from getting power to the soft start, we had a wire in that switch that tells the compressor when to come on. Right. Yeah. Because there's no like, yeah, it's not like a regular machine where it turns on when you, when you turn it on, this turns on when the pressure switch says, Hey, we need air.

Speaker: And so we go to the internet, of course, and most of the the thorough videos were all from other countries. Yeah, a lot of Eastern Europe and Africa.

Speaker: Yeah. Where I guess they, they probably need it for the same reasons we do, you know, these, these power spikes, you know, they probably have less power in these places. Yeah. Less developed places. Um, so we were thinking about maybe putting something together because there was so little information out there. Yeah. Um, but if any of that in a free time. Yeah.

Speaker: If anybody, anybody runs across the same problem, they could certainly reach out. It's, it's not that complicated once you know where the wires go. Yeah. It's another one of those things where it's like, I got an idea about how to do this, but I just don't want to screw anything up. But you know, it came to the rescue really in the end. Yeah. So I mean another, another, uh,

Speaker: I don't know what the word I'm looking for here is. Another time Brian comes in in the clutch and helps us out. So we shoot Brian from RT a text and say, you know, any chance that you could put us in touch with your electrician? Because he has an industrial electrician who does

Speaker: You know, he'll go to a manufacturing plant and set up a whole suite of machines for RT. You know what I mean? Like he's that's what he does. You know, tear him down. We've seen most electricians, electricians have no clue about any of this stuff. They claim to be a master. I'm a master electrician. It's like, well, you don't know anything about this. I can vouch for that. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. So, you know, thankfully Brian was able to get us linked up with Dan and, and, uh, you have got on what a phone call with them. Yeah. Yeah. Because we first thing we did was we contacted Quincy, the compressor. They were no help. Then we contacted, um, Galco where we bought the soft starter and they were a little bit of help.

Speaker: but not enough. They didn't know how to hook it up to a compressor. And then finally, Dan, the electrician. I mean, he sort of, you know, just tied together those last few threads that made everything work. And plus gave me some confidence, you know? Yeah. You know, you don't want to because it was a Monday morning that there was that pop.

Speaker: Yeah. 22 went off 10 feet away. That was, that was disheartening. I was like, Oh, there goes a soft start. Cause you know, we, we had to get to a point where we were just touching wires to see what would happen. And, uh,

Speaker: But thankfully it's been, you know, you did a bunch of edge banding and the compressor has been cycling on and off. So everything seems to be cool. Yeah. I mean that, like when you're banding, I've been running it on there. So the edge bander has got two speeds and I've been running it with

Speaker: everything on aside from corner rounding because I just don't need it on the process that I'm doing so it's it's using max air like literally max air corner rounding I guess would use maybe a tiny bit more just yeah there must be one little actuator in there but

Speaker: Yeah, runs that motor that goes in a circle. Yeah, actually, the corner rounding seems like it's got a lot. It has like four regulators, so it must do a bunch of stuff with air. But anyway, it's pretty close to max air consumption, and we haven't had any issues. But surprisingly, like the compressor kicks on relatively often. Yeah, a lot more than I thought. Yeah. I don't know how that little black compressor even ran anything.

Speaker: That thing's a champ. I know. Yeah. I mean, we really, between the salt sellers and, and the, and that night, that day and night running it with the edge band. That's going to a new home. Guy's going to use it. Um, forget his name. I talked to him on Instagram. He's up, uh, like north of the Driscoll. Um, he's going to use it as like a job site compressor because it's on wheels. It weighs 150 pounds, but

Speaker: you know, it's tall enough where you could actually like wheel it out of a van, you know, just like wheel it off the step, I feel like.

Speaker: But yeah, that's cool. I mean, the thing's only a year old, you know, I mean, we ran it hard, but it's got plenty of life. I'm sure. Oh yeah. I mean, uh, Chicago pneumatic, it's, I mean, this one's made in China, but, um, it makes some pretty good compressors. It's not like, you know, top of the line, but it's, it's definitely a commercial grade compressor. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if we just got lucky and got, got a jam or if they're all that reliable. Yeah.

Speaker: Um, but, uh, I'd vouch for it. Yeah. Dual voltage, which is cool. You know, you can run on one 20 or two 40 or whatever one 10 and two 20, one 15 and two 30. Can we get some consistency here? Yeah. What happened to it's like beta max and, uh, and VCR.

Speaker: I don't think there's any 110 left. Do we use it all off? There's more than 110 coming into every single line now. Let's just get rid of the 110 thing.

Speaker: So yeah, got that, the compressor all figured out, thank God. Lives in a birdhouse though, that little thing. Yes, yes, squirrel house. Right. The one thing that we did glean from the instructions was it needs a 10 by 12 by eight enclosure minimum. Yeah. And the unit is probably what? Three by six by four or something like that. Yeah. Probably even like maybe only two inches wide.

Speaker: Yeah. So it requires a lot of space. Yeah. So we got, yeah, we got a, we got a squirrel house tacked to the side of the compressor. Yeah. So that was Monday, Tuesday. Um, let's see, Tuesday I was jamming on that. Um, actually I finished that reception desk. So I started that Monday, Monday afternoon. I built the cabinets. We went somewhere on Monday.

Speaker: Um, yeah, we did. Was that when we went to brick last week? Costco. Oh yeah. And, um, UPS. Yeah. So we, um, we took those little nightstands that I built over to UPS and shipped those out to park city, Utah. They, um, probably be getting there tomorrow. Um,

Speaker: Yeah. 300 bucks. They weighed 48 pounds between two of them. And they packed it up. I mean, we, we wrapped them, but they packed it up. Yeah. They charged 35 for, um,

Speaker: for packing. Yeah. And when she said, do you want to ensure them? I said, yes, she said the value. I said 3000. And she looked at me like, what the hell? Yeah. I guess most people like three. Yeah. I mean, they weren't 3000. They were a little bit less than that, but I figured, you know,

Speaker: If something happens, I want to cover the shipping costs, the time to go bring it over there, the packing material, everything. So, you know, shipper for or insure it for more than it's it's actually worth. Definitely. Plus, I don't want to make them again.

Speaker: did a good job on those. Cause that, uh, that front, um, molding detail or face frame, that's finicky stuff. Yeah. You know, getting it all flush with, cause that that's the thing working with hardwood and plywood together. You really have to get those, uh, joints level. Yeah. Yeah. You can't sand and scrape like, uh, you might want to on with all solid wood.

Speaker: Yeah. And there, you know, I did. I mean, I blended it, but you can. It's not like if you close your eyes and feel it, you can feel that there. I mean, you've got to remember the price point of the things that are like $1 ,000 each. Yeah. Which sounds like, oh man, $1 ,000 nights. Oh, it takes a lot of time. So.

Speaker: Yeah. Anytime, anytime you you're making one of anything, I don't know if people, if not people, maybe who listen to us on a regular basis, but like lay people will call customers, clients, if they understand the, the cost and the process involved in making one of something as opposed to a, a plant that's set up to churn something out.

Speaker: Um, yeah, if we could, uh, you know, invest, just say even $50 ,000 into a, uh, a line to build these things, then we can pump them out for 200 bucks or less. Yeah. 50 bucks cost and sell them for 200.

Speaker: Yeah. And if you have, you know, uh, hourly wage employees running machinery and things like that, once you ramp up to that spot, that's, that's when the costs get really driven down. Yeah. So yeah, we shipped those out. Um, then we went over to Costco. We had to pick up two giant five pound bags of candy for the Memorial Day parade on Sunday. Let's hope it doesn't rain. Yeah. I wonder what it says now.

Speaker: Hunter was so excited for the parade and then yesterday I said, oh, you know what Sunday is? What? The parade. And then like he was like, not about it. He's like, I wanted to watch the parade, not I'm like, I'm like.

Speaker: I'm like, you're not watching them. Like, I don't know who you think you're going to be watching with. I'm like, I'm going to be in the van. So that's where you're going to be. He thought he was going to be catching candy instead of throwing. Yeah. Well, he's got like, you know, unfettered access to the candy while we're in the van. Yeah. Um, so yeah, we got, uh, two big bags of candy, which is like, man, way cheaper than the BS that I bought the first time. Yeah. I got those, um,

Speaker: Where are they? I think they were three pounds each. It was like a mix of of like because it was for St. Patty's Day. It was like gold coins, green Hershey's Kisses.

Speaker: It wasn't really like the the name brand candy that we got now. No, no, but I thought it would be, you know, apropos for St. Patty's Day. Maybe it was like green coins, gold coins, green Hershey's Kisses and silver Hershey's Kisses or something. And it was like three pounds and it was like twenty fifteen or twenty bucks each.

Speaker: So we went to Costco and got two different things. One was 20 and one was 15. Yeah. It was like a, one was like a chocolatey mix and one was, uh, yeah, I mean, it's got.

Speaker: peanut M &Ms, Reese's, peanut butter cups, Snickers, a hundred grand. It's like, it's the cast of characters. And then the other ones got like all more fruit, you know, I don't know about Skittles, but like stuff like that, Skittles and Starburst and. Yeah. The kids are going to turn the van over. Yeah. So yeah. So now we got like, you know, 11 pounds of candy this time around. Yeah. That's cool.

Speaker: We ran out on that last leg on St. Patty's Day. I haven't gotten the email yet. The mayor is supposed to send out an email with the instructions. It will lead the parade this time. Yeah. We don't want to be behind. What were we behind last time? Good fellows. I feel like Memorial Day Parade is less of a drinking parade.

Speaker: Making some coffee slurp noises. I don't know if Keith's going to be able to take it. Yeah. Sorry, Keith. I wonder where he is this morning.

Speaker: Yeah, that's a good question. He was on a boat yesterday. I don't know what he was doing, but he was, I was texting him. He's like, sorry, it's hard to text on a boat. I'm like, maybe you took this ferry into New York. I thought maybe it was fishing. Oh, it was windy though. So, you know, the ferry would have been even, you know, the ferry is big and it's a catamaran. So it cuts through pretty good. But yeah, if it's real windy and there's a lot of chop. Yeah. I mean, that thing is smooth.

Speaker: Are we going to take the ferry into Haefla this time? Let's see what we can afford. Come on, kitchen. Maybe we can build that to Haefla. It's a marketing excursion.

Speaker: Hey, we got our candy. And then, yeah, so I started working on that reception desk that we're building. I'm not sure if we talked about that yet, but building a reception desk for building up a playing field with a couple of new designers and a developer.

Speaker: I guess, uh, yeah, I won't talk about all the BS, but, um, so it's basically just for base 22 and a half. So that's desk height. So they finished at 30, um, in like a U shape and in the center, the bases are spread out. So you got a spot for your legs to go, you know? Um, so it's just a pre -fin boxes with edge banding, no doors, no shelves, nothing. And then it's just got black.

Speaker: panels and panels, countertops. And in the front, there's like a 40 inch by seven foot by six inch facade, basically, just to give it some. It's almost like a new wall. Yeah.

Speaker: So that was pretty simple. Got the cabinets built on Monday and then wrapped up the rest of it by, you know, two o 'clock on Tuesday, which was good. I sent out an email. I was like, all right, it's done. Then can we bring it? And they're like, man, they're like, you really got that done fast because we only got paid on it on Friday. Um,

Speaker: And I told him, I said, I'll order material on Monday, but I was actually able. It was early enough where I called Fez ordered the melamine called Edgeco ordered the edge banding. Both of them showed up on Monday. We had the plywood. So I was cutting that on Monday before that stuff even showed up. Edgeco ships fast too.

Speaker: Yeah, so if you guys buy edge banding, Edgeco in Long Island is like, apparently it's like the leading source of edge banding, according to their website. But they stock like a billion different colors and sizes and I think they have pre -glued, they have automatic, obviously, different thicknesses and widths. And so that got this, it's PVC, but it's like a foam multiply.

Speaker: pattern. So when you look at the edge, it looks like nice multiply. Yeah. Like the old Baltic birch used to be. Um, I think they have one that's real wood.

Speaker: I know while Willie said he was going to reach out to them and ask about that, that would be nice on like something that's a little more high end. This is just, you know, commercial, super utilitarian. And, you know, they were trying to keep the cost down. So. Yeah, we bringing that up there at some point. They haven't said when they're I guess now they're probably not ready for it. But we're we're discussing with them this.

Speaker: modular sofa thing that, that looks like we're going to build. So she wants to do some redraws on that. I'm waiting to hear back from her. Yeah. They, the quote was sort of based on these conceptual sketches. She came, probably came across them on Pinterest or something. Yeah.

Speaker: What else? You've been working on that barn door. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we did do some some maintenance on the on the shop Was out there getting the suntan the other day. Oh, yeah Yeah, so Monday we realized oh man, we don't have we don't have a v -groove bit anymore Because you had the v -groove those yeah

Speaker: which i think i think where it went is when keith was seeing seeing the bezels for us i have this recollection of saying here take this and try that i'm like we're never going to need this again but it was one of those and we searched everywhere for the bit yeah is you know all the places like it could have been maybe not have been

Speaker: Yeah. So Monday, I ordered it from tools today and it shipped out, you know, same day, which they're great with that. And usually we get it the next day from UPS, but for some reason it made it to our UPS hub where our, you know, where our truck, uh, fixed up. Yeah. Um,

Speaker: at 4 22 AM, which was the same time as the Edgeco package. The Edgeco one made it on the truck, but the tools today one didn't. Oh wait, no. Edgeco came on Monday. There's something else. It was another thing. It got here though. What the hell was it? Hmm, man. I don't remember. Was it something you ordered? Uh,

Speaker: All right, does Alan go to Tinton Falls? Is that where he picks up his truck in the morning? Yeah, Hope Road. That's like the hub. Oh, so he goes down there and actually gets the stuff. So yeah, the truck, you know, he just picks up the truck. That's cool.

Speaker: Yeah. So yeah, whatever it was, for some reason, it didn't make it on the truck. I don't know if that maybe the truck was full or whatever. I don't know. It was a thinnest little package that could have just freaking trucked it in there. But yeah, so we should have had that on on Tuesday, but it ended up coming on Wednesday. So.

Speaker: You were out there on Tuesday, scraping and painting. The door jam on the window. Yeah. Our new window. Yeah. Our new old window. We took the boarding off of the window in the front. You know, they had to board it up because

Speaker: When a building's vacant, I mean, it's much more likely to be broken into because obviously there's nobody watching it. So, yeah, we had a little double hung window that that was covered up. Yeah. We got all this natural light in the office now. Yeah, it's bizarre. Yeah, it's a little bit off putting at first. And I cleaned up the bathroom windows. We have those. I don't know what you call that old style of casement where

Speaker: Yeah. It's like a louvered, louvered casement, but there's no, it's literally just louvers. There's no anything, you know, it's completely like uninsulated. You used to see those a lot in like Florida and places like that. Yeah. These are a pretty industrial kind of a version. I feel like it's all like galvanized.

Speaker: Yeah. We got a little bit extra light in there. Clean those up. It's nice to open them up and get a little, get a little fresh air in there.

Speaker: And with that bright white paint on there, you could see how bad the water is. It really, really is bad. We could fill all that stuff and give it one more coat. Well, like all the little profiles are all messed up. But yeah, I mean, it was like peeling green, dark green paint and it was real flaky. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: It kind of looks like somebody lives here now. Yeah. You know, we're trying to, you know, do our, do our, uh, keep our responsibility of, you know, making sure the building doesn't look like total, total shit.

Speaker: And we were out back, uh, doing some weed whacking. Oh, it was crazy out there with the hedge trimmer, which worked great. Yeah. Um, but it's, you can't, you can't get ahead of those things. Yeah. We have the, I think we may have talked about the Japanese knot weed, which is just some insanely fast growing, you know, uh, creeper rhizome bamboo esque kind of thing.

Speaker: I mean, it grows like a foot a week. Yeah. I think, you know, if you keep cutting it, the thing is you got to they pop leaves like super fast, like unlike bamboo. Bamboo doesn't get leaves until it goes all the way up. Right. So if you keep cutting bamboo before it before it puts out leaves, you can kill it because obviously it needs to put out leaves to get the energy. Mm hmm.

Speaker: What the hell they call that? Photosynthesis. So this like these things pop out leaves when they're like two inches tall. Yeah. So you can't kill it. And the leaves are pretty broad for the size of the, of the little sprout.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. They're like, uh, like a four inch kind of like spade shaped leaf. Um, but yeah, it's like bamboo, but it's like real soft. Yeah. But it has that, that segmented sort of, uh, yeah. The hedge, I got these ego hedge tremors and it goes right through them. Um,

Speaker: But it's a pretty big area and then it doesn't do anything, you know, long term. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I think what we have to do maybe is is I don't know. You'd have to like level it out to the point where you could plant grass seed and then just mow it. Oh, yeah. Because then if you're mowing it every week, you're just like literally cutting the tops off of these things and they might not die, but at least it'll keep it

Speaker: Yeah. So we need to get in there with some kind of machinery and like a dredge up all the roots and everything.

Speaker: Yeah, I will more just like grade it all out. Um, cause there's some that are old and like real, real stumpy. Yep. But yeah, that's the thing. Like you can never run a lawnmower through there cause it's so though the dry stuff is like, it's more like bamboo than, than the green stuff. Yeah. There's one big stumped. It's almost like a tree in this back. Yeah. Yeah. There's also like a bunch of concrete in there. Yeah. Um,

Speaker: Yeah. It's, that's what I was kind of thinking. Like, is there something that we could plant? That's, that's nice. That could overpower, but I can't think of anything. I don't think so. That stuff's so tenacious. I keep wanting to call it hogweed, but what it's not weed, not weed, Japanese, not weed. Now I, you know, see it elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: So what could we do as far as like, what could we get in there to level that thing? We need like a little mini bobcat or something. Yeah. Probably tear up the grass that, you know, getting in there and driving around on it. Yeah. Cause there's really a nice section of lawn right next to it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is our grass technically, but yeah. Our neighbor kindly cuts it for us.

Speaker: Yeah. Cause this, it's probably about, I don't know what, like three feet wide, this swath of, uh, yeah, it's like 80, 80 linear feet. So that's what 240 square feet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't be bad if, if this actually like, if you did had to do this like twice a year.

Speaker: Yeah, I'm going to do it every two weeks. I mean, in the wintertime, it doesn't doesn't grow. What you have to do is use glyphosate in fall. They say like cut it and then pour the glyphosate down the stem. Oh, geez. But there's how many individual stems are there's got to be a thousand. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe more. You have to come in there with like a sprayer of some sort, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker: What is glyphosate? Is that like Roundup or something? Yeah, that's Roundup. Oh man. All I see is bad commercials for that. Yeah. So if any, we got any gardeners that are listening, you know, send us some tips. Yeah. I'm telling you, you get a couple of goats. Apparently people eat the stuff. It's like it has antioxidants.

Speaker: Can't be any worse than kale. I actually like kale. Mature shoots are much tougher and need to be peeled before eating and can be eaten raw, grilled, sauteed, pickled, and more. Not wheat can also be used in pies, soups, aspects, sauces, jams, and chutneys, as many high -end restaurants are doing as they embrace the trend for foraged food.

Speaker: Maybe we can just invite foragers. No, just try eating it. Early spring shoots and leaves are edible and have been described as a cross between asparagus and rhubarb. Roots contain the highest known concentrations of resveratrol in plants. Same powerful antioxidant found in red grape skin and red wine.

Speaker: But your shoe man read that it's sour flavor is often compared to rhubarb and could be substituted in recipes Japanese not weed and the phenolic compound that is especially found in the plants roots resveratrol is of interest for the for its antioxidant activity and for its effect on the human immune system and possible usefulness against the bacteria that causes Lyme disease. Oh shit.

Speaker: Wow, that's topical. Yeah. Proceed with caution, however. Do not harvest knotweed from anywhere you find it as it is often sprayed with herbicides in attempts to combat it. Only harvest from an area you know has not been sprayed and from soil that is not contaminated. I think our soil is definitely contaminated. Knotweed may cause gastrointestinal issues for some, especially when more than a small amount is consumed. This can be testified to some folks we know.

Speaker: The blossoms are beloved by many insects such as butterflies, beetles, wasps, and bees. In fact, knotweed is valued by some beekeepers as an important source of nectar for honeybees at a time of year when little else is flowering. Producing a mild flavored version of buckwheat honey, knotweed and buckwheat are in the same family, knotweed stalks can be cut and dried to make mason bee hotels.

Speaker: Veritrol extractive from Japanese knotweed is also now being used as an organic bioungicide spray. That helps a variety of crop plants resist a range of fungal and bacterial diseases. So maybe we should just embrace the knotweed.

Speaker: I don't know about that. Learn to love the knotweed. Yeah. I mean, let it grow, you know, to be whatever. A couple of feet high before we cut it. Yeah. Cause it's not any harder to cut down. No. It'd just be less cutting. Yeah. It's, it's easier to, to harvest too, the longer. Yep. Longer pieces.

Speaker: Yeah, we could probably get one of those plug -in. We really have a 120 outlet that that's that close to that though. You know, get one of those plug -in hedge trimmers. Just go back there and anytime we got 10 minutes, just go freaking mow it down. We need one of those DR. Remember those infomercials? DR, Russian, whatever they were called. Russian hedge? I don't know.

Speaker: I guess, I guess they're not selling those anymore. Yeah. Uh, I wonder if they're, they still exist as a company or if they just quit doing the info Marshall. Brush mower, dr pro max 34 inch field and brush mower, $4 ,000. Wow. Your field and brush mowers walk behind professional series. They got Barry powered once with that.

Speaker: I mean, if, if steel's making battery powered stuff, you can see the future coming. Yeah. Yeah, man. That was like a classic infomercial back in the day. Yeah. That was on all the time. I guess nobody cuts their own grass anymore. So it's true. I mean, uh, I remember living out in California. That was like a,

Speaker: Well, in Southern California is particularly that was like a full blown industry. And this was like back in the, in the nineties, like at 6 AM, the trucks just, uh, the landscaping. Yeah. Just are piling out like they, like the school buses do around here. Yeah. Well, like, you know, 15 guys in the back. Yeah.

Speaker: and they would just go into because they have all those communities with golf courses and everything and it's just an army of landscapers down there. Oh yeah, it's huge out here too. Yeah, I'm seeing more and more of it. I need to get my

Speaker: My front hud hedges or whatever those things are those are provide ease. I need to get those replaced. Yeah, I asked my Grass cutter. I can't quite call them landscapers. I asked them they could do it and It always takes like two weeks for the information to filter through to the English speakers

Speaker: You know, they're very nice, but we have limited communication skills between us. Arbol, new Arbol, please. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I ask. I ask.

Speaker: I wonder how, what was the name, Hector? Oh yeah, Hector. I wonder how he's doing. Now we got a new guy, Hugo. I used to work with a guy, his name was Hugo Chavez. Oh wow. Yeah, that's like working with a George Washington. I don't think he was Venezuelan. Wait, was Hugo Chavez Venezuelan?

Speaker: Um, I don't know. Um, that's a good, or was he, uh, it's funny because, uh, in, uh, San Francisco, one of the main drags was army and they renamed it Hugo Chavez. Yeah. Venezuela. Former president of the Republic of Venezuela. Yeah. Although, yeah. So he was a president from 99 until 2013. So this guy was,

Speaker: Hugo Chavez, before Hugo Chavez was Hugo Chavez. This is going back. This is Dennis Foy. That's probably like pre -2010. He was in his 30s or 40s, so not like he was named after Hugo Chavez.

Speaker: Oh, excuse me. Oh yeah. Um, we were talking about shop organization kind of stuff yesterday. You know, did some, you did some machine maintenance on the table saws and stuff. Yeah. The fences were a little bit too loose when we moved and

Speaker: and getting those getting the indicators a little bit more like dialed in like because you know that was another thing they were a little bit not quite uh the Unisaw especially that was really the one yeah i'd just been using a measuring tape that's what you know it's like rips are rips aren't that uh

Speaker: But I wanted to at least get some sense of where I was. Yeah. Um, it's one of those things you always go, I'm going to get to that. I'm going to get to that. Um, and you never do. So you just keep using your tape.

Speaker: Yeah. So I started building a new, uh, shop cabinet for like all the finishing supplies. Cause we have this table. That's like, it's like a 30 inch deep cabinet. It's a mess inside. Yeah. It's, it's literally the absolute worst. Um, so I built like a, uh,

Speaker: six foot, six drawer base, you know, three, three rows of two drawers. I just got the drawers three sides assembled. I just got to cut bottoms, get those in, notch them.

Speaker: The black melamine looks nice as a shop cabinet. It really, it really comes off well, um, as opposed to like raw plywood or something, be the next, you know, that would have been my, uh, like go to in the, in the past.

Speaker: the melamine is cheaper. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. And you know, with the edge banner, it's so easy just to cut it, edge band it. Like I made the time. Yeah. I made the countertop yesterday and like literally 10 minutes start to finish. Just, you know, cut it on the slider, edge banded it and put it on. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I got the drawers. Uh, you know, I'll be done with those before midday. Probably if I got,

Speaker: The gumption, I'll make the drawer fronts, I guess. Might as well just get it done. We have to get some more of those handles. Yeah, buck. Yeah. From Hayfla Solid Brass. Their oil rub bronze. Yeah, I mean, they're weighty. They just must have been discontinued or something, I guess.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. They have, I mean, on their clearance, they get a lot of stuff. That's just like insanely cheap. You know, either have too much in stock or what? Yeah. Same thing discontinued. Um, so yeah, solid brass holes. I think they had, they had a couple of different colors. I think $1. Yeah. It doesn't come with screws, but big deal. They're like those bar pulls, but they're not hollow. Yeah. I mean, they're, they weigh,

Speaker: you know, third of a pound each. They're, they're, they're solid. They feel good. Yeah. Feel good in the hand. Yeah. And grab some more of those or, or something similar. Yeah. What, what do you, you got the, uh, the one material you got for the drawer face. We still got that, uh, she's the daring forest. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. It'll be all matching along that wall. Yeah. We just don't have any of that, uh, thick edge banding. Uh,

Speaker: Yeah. The, the complimentary color edge banding is nice. Here's the, gives the door reveals a little bit of a accent. I have to use probably that multiply again, which it's, you know, I prefer something thicker just for durability, but I don't think I have enough black, one millimeter black to do all those doors a lot. Yeah. Cause that's a two, four.

Speaker: to basically six, 12, 18, 24, 24 linear feet. And then three, six, nine, 12, 15, 18, 24 plus 18. So 42, 52, 52 linear feet. Maybe.

Speaker: Yeah. I mean, it's surprising how much those little rolls are when you stretch them out. Yeah. The one millimeter comes in 300 foot rolls. So that would be nice. Yeah. And we ought to start having some on hand, some stock on hand. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. Charge every job. You know, if you need one role, charge them for two and just get a double. It's nice to have stuff laying around, just do whatever you use for shop stuff or, you know, like on the cabinets for this reception desk.

Speaker: Like all the, all the panels and everything, everything's edge banded four sides. Yeah. Just because when you bought them together, I mean, first of all, it protects the melamine because you hit, you, you knock an edge on, on edge banded, you're done. The piece is gone. Yeah. Garbage. Um, so, you know, I'd rather a 300 foot roll of, um, let me see if I think the one millimeter was, let's see. Let's go, let's go, let's go.

Speaker: Coast sales team. And that's small. You know it's small if you say it. 3950 for 300 feet of one millimeter black PVC edge banning. Wow. 40 divided by 300. That's 13 cents a foot.

Speaker: I'm not losing sleep over 30 cents of edge banding to edge band the bottom. You know, I know some people who, who are, you know, to edge band the bottom edge of a cabinet, it keeps it sealed, you know? So if they mop the floor, it's not going to suck in there. It keeps it protected. Um, it's just better. Yeah. I mean, it takes, takes an additional what?

Speaker: 30 seconds is being crazy on estimating time, an extra 30 seconds to edge band the bottom edge. Yeah. It'll be a generous and call it a minute. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know where I was going with this. I lost my train of thought.

Speaker: Well, you were just describing, uh, you know, how the panels are coming together and you edge man in four sides. Yeah. It makes a cleaner joint. I think too, because yeah, there's intention there in the joint instead of, I mean, cause you're going to see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if things aren't perfectly flush, you know, you see that the ins, the core material and the Melanie, which you don't want to see. Um, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I was going somewhere with it, but I can't

Speaker: Got lost along the way. Yeah. But yeah, you know, 13 cents a foot. That's, that's cheap. I like it. Yeah. I do want to get, uh, you know, put something up about edge banding service. I have to figure out what a good price is. Um, maybe I know the, the CNC guy up in Connecticut charges a dollar a foot. Good starting point. Yeah.

Speaker: You know, probably have to have like a minimum. Yeah. Minimum minimum footage. Yeah. Cause let's say you got 20 cents a foot material in the banding and then I don't know, but I don't know how the glue breaks out. I mean, we've run.

Speaker: at least a thousand feet of banding so far. Yeah. The glue goes a long, long way. I just put a little bit more in yesterday, like half a quart and that bag is a 50 pound bags or I think maybe 20 kilos. So what's that?

Speaker: whatever, 44 pounds, something like that. Yeah. It's like 30 inches high. Yeah. So I mean, you know, you're talking thousands and thousands and thousands of feet where it's a banding in that bag. And I think the bags are about 200 bucks. The chemicals we don't know yet. We haven't like the release agent and the cleaner. They don't really look like they've dropped. Yeah.

Speaker: If they have, it's minimal because I've been looking at them. It's like they showed up like half empty and they're still there. But I think maybe that's just how, you know, it's one of those things where they only they only come with with so much in them. But yeah, so we have that that anti stick spray and the infeed and the cleaning spray and the outfeed. I want to bump up the the cleaning spray a bit and lower the buffers a little bit. We're getting a little bit of glue residue on the on seems like on the bottom side.

Speaker: which you can't really see until you get dust and then the dust sticks to it. That might also be a symptom of running it on second speed. Maybe on speed one, it's got a little more time to buff.

Speaker: Yeah. Spent a little extra time between those wheels. Yeah. Um, so yeah, we had to do a calculation and, and you know, we do, we, let's say we land on a dollar and we didn't do a couple and it's, doesn't seem like it's enough. You can always raise that up. Yeah. No big deal. Um, but yeah, we'll see. That might be a good way to fill, you know,

Speaker: Yeah. It's always, there's always downtime in between tasks and stuff, waiting for something to dry, you know, or, um, waiting for something to arrive. It's, I mean, we, we try to keep pretty busy. I always think of the old, uh, restaurant thing too. Time to lean, time to clean. You got time to lean, you got time to clean. So

Speaker: The dust, not like the sawdust dust, but the dirt dust, it never goes away. It's like I keep sweeping and I still see that dark brown dust. It must be just like embedded into the floor. I guess. Yeah, I don't know. It's years of dust that, I mean, it's sat for so long that

Speaker: got to figure that the dust is just accumulating. Yeah. I mean, really what we got to do probably is, is get one of those, uh, scrub brushes on a pole and a bucket of hot water and go around section by section and just scrub. Yeah. And mop it, you know, again, get a mop, mop it up. Yeah. Maybe a hose and like a power, you know, the thing is we got all the stuff in the shop now. Um,

Speaker: you know, we didn't have hot water. I don't think where we moved in or. Yeah. I think that was one of the, excuse me. That was one of the last things we got was that hot water heater hooked up. Yeah. We had it on an extension cord for a long time. Forgot about that. Yeah. Now we got 25 holes in the ceiling. Moving on with three inches. Thanks a lot, Dave.

Speaker: The best was how he couldn't accept the drill. He was trying to drill a hole with a spade bit, right? Yeah. It was like on like hammer. It's on hammer or like, you know, the clutch.

Speaker: Put it in first gear. It will break your wrist before it stalls out. Literally. You'll snap the handle off the drill. Yeah. So he's up on top of the, of the, the bathroom ceiling, you know, which is lower than the ceiling in the shop. I think originally he was trying to do with like a 12 volt drill. Yeah.

Speaker: And we're all down, you know, laughing and telling and screaming directions at him, you know, but it was, it was too, it's too funny. Oh man. Master electricians. Helper. You sure about that? You sure about that? You sure about that?

Speaker: This so this guy that that sound bites from it's named Tim Robinson or something. He's a comedian. He was on a show called Detroiters and I think a couple others. But so he's got a new show out on Netflix, like a sketch comedy show, which I I've I love sketch comedy. Oh, shit, that vibrated all the way through my microphone. Yeah, that's the wife. Oh, you know, it probably vibrated through yours and picking it up on the monitoring.

Speaker: So I put it on last night with the wife. I'm like, yeah, there's this new show I want to check out because I don't know. He put out like a lot of reels on Instagram and stuff as kind of guerrilla marketing, I think. And they're funny clips. But then, I don't know, I watched the show and we watched two episodes and my wife is like, you know, the show sucks, right? And I'm like, yeah. I was totally disappointed because I thought it was going to be funny.

Speaker: Yeah. There's no good sketch comedy shows right now. You know, I used to have key and P used to have mad TV first of all, which is like when I was growing up, I love mad TV. You had key and peel crawl show. What else? I mean, like kids in the hall. That was classic.

Speaker: And I'm sure there's a bunch of other ones that I'm forgetting. Did you was in living color your time period too? Was that before? That's before, but I did watch it occasionally growing up because my dad was a big fan. Jim Carrey's got some funny ones. Yeah. The Seinfeld one where they're. That was a good show. Yeah. I mean, a lot of, a lot of people came out of that show. Yeah. Jim Carrey, Jennifer Lopez. Uh, I mean the Waynes brothers, I think that's kind of like where they got their story, right?

Speaker: Yeah. I mean, they were sort of like not, I don't want to say B movie actors and stuff like that, but they were, yeah, they were, their career wasn't mainstream. They kind of disappeared. Yeah. Yeah. Probably, um, probably by choice. You know, um, yeah, that's, it's a, do you ever spend any time out in LA?

Speaker: No, I'd never been, Vegas was the only time I was west of West Virginia. Yeah, it's a brutal kind of thing. And you know, I wasn't even involved in that aspect of business, but everywhere you go, everybody's trying to break into the business.

Speaker: You know, I'm just waiting tables while I work on my screenplay. Waiting in line at the grocery store. I mean, it's, it's just, it's everywhere. You can't, you can't get away from it. Well, now at the internet, you know, everybody's got a platform to try to put their thing out. So maybe it's not as bad now. That's true. It's true. You don't have to go to LA. You can just do it from wherever.

Speaker: Yeah. Yeah. But the auditions, I wonder, I want to have that. Well, and now too, you know, the film industry has really gotten, it's, it's in a lot of different places now.

Speaker: Toronto. Yeah, there's a lot in Canada. My wife and I were watching that show Night Agent and it's supposed to take place in DC. We're watching and they're like in the woods. I'm like, that's West Coast woods. And I was filmed in British Columbia. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Um, I, you know, that show monk. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, that's set in San Francisco, but that's filmed in Canada too. I think, um, they, George has got a big film industry now. New Jersey's, you know, they're doing a lot of TV shows stuff here. Netflix is moving into Fort Monmouth, allegedly. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. So they'll shoot all these like, um, what do you call on site things where like they have to get, you know, the actual location. They'll do like some little clips of San Francisco or New York or something, but the bulk of it's all filmed. That's like, uh, you know, like, uh, was it Batman is supposed to take place in, you know, it's based on what Chicago? Gotham city. I thought.

Speaker: Yeah. But isn't Gotham city like supposed to be Chicago or is it New York? I'm not sure. I'm not that big on comics. Me neither. But I think it's supposed to be like, Oh, you know, based on a real city, but they film it in like some, you know, not that city. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not into the whole Marvel DC. I'm I think. Yeah. I usually watch them when they come out on TV.

Speaker: Yeah, I feel like they're just bad movies. People love them, but they're just bad. They're super predictable. Well, yeah, yeah. I don't see the allure in the predictable movie. I want an unpredictable movie. That's right.

Speaker: Um, but to circle back, I know you're saying about trying new shows and you know, so you, you're there with the wife and you you're given at that time. And then you both look over and like, this is, this is thumbs down, right? Yeah.

Speaker: Cause we watch a lot of mystery shows and you know, we're at the point where like we'll circle back and watch a series that we watched years ago and watch it again. And it's like, come on, let's, let's try this new show. This looks like it could be a good one. You got about 15 minutes in, you're like, man, this ain't cutting it.

Speaker: I mean, I could have stuck it out with this show. It's called, um, I think, I think you should leave because it had like little moments that were funny. And I mean, it wasn't like, I don't know, it wasn't horrible. There's much worse things. I mean, but it's just stupid humor. Um, like I could stick it out and watch it just for those little glints of, of funny, but yeah, whatever. Yeah. Um,

Speaker: I did get a new quote on that face frame for the angled door. Yeah. It wasn't included in the, uh, what I want for the face frame. I didn't open it up, but it was pretty inexpensive. The door was pretty inexpensive. So.

Speaker: And it looks like, uh, be given, they offer us a 10 % discount on the kitchen. Yeah. It's pretty good. Yeah. We could just pass that, pass that on. Yeah. I'll figure all that out. Yeah. Give Meridian a, yeah. I'll, uh, I'll text the guy once it hits eight o 'clock. See if, um,

Speaker: we could just send over. Maybe we could just send over the Conestoga. Yeah, why not? Save me a time of typing it. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, they, you know, listen, you want to play ball, play ball. Yeah. You take this, plug it into your system, see, see what comes out. That's right. And they'll have the numbers. So if they want to beat it, beat it. Right. You know, listen, we haven't bought from Conestoga. We haven't bought from you. Who, who, who are we going to pick? Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, that's a, we'll give them the 10%, you know, we'll say, and they also said that it gives 10 % off this. Yeah. Yeah. And also what's your lead time.

Speaker: And you know what else they gave me, Conestoga gave me that square foot price. And I figured out, I went through it yesterday with the calculator and figured out exactly the square foot. And when I was talking to her on the phone, I got the impression that they, that the price was less than what I figured out. Like their price. So I'm going to ask her for a direct quote. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah. The, the kitchen job, the clients are, you know, debating painted or stained. So cooking up some different numbers and stuff. You know, to see where, where they're going to land. Yeah. Everybody, everybody wants everything, but they, you know, budget is always. Yeah. Budget is the, the great equalizer, the driving force. Yeah.

Speaker: Well, on that note, we just ticked over the hour mark. We're rapidly approaching 8 a .m. Most of you are still not even at work.

Speaker: Yeah. We're like the army over here. Yeah. I was talking to Lindsay about that. Oh, so we're good to go tomorrow for install eight o 'clock. The first job for those shells. She's, I said, Oh, how's Friday? She's like, yeah, let me check. What time I said, how's eight? I said, we're at the shop at six 30. So anytime after that,

Speaker: Yeah. People, my wife was again like, why you got to get up so early? Like, well, you know, there's, there's nobody around at that time of the morning. I need that time. So she's been pretty cool about it. She's, you know, it's the other morning she got up, you know, messed up my whole routine.

Speaker: You've been telling, you got to get yourself set up in the shop with like a couch and a TV and just go out there and just avoid any potential interactions. Well, we'll see you guys next week. Everybody have a great day.

Speaker: As always, Rob and I, thank you for tuning in and we'll see you next week. If you want to help support the podcast, you can leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Again, we appreciate your support. Thanks for tuning in.

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