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Session 53 - CKLV Recap
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We cover all the highs and lows of the Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational. As the biggest regular season event of the year, a lot of questions are answered heading into second semester.
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Transcript
Personal Reflections and Indiana Football
00:00:10
Speaker
Here we are. Pull myself out of this depression that I have just been put in. Just don't even think about it, dude. That's what I do. Just don't even think about it. Just not think about it. do you Well, do you want to distract yourself by talking about how good of a position Indiana football is in for this? I got to ask, what makes you think that Indiana is in a good position? Yeah, because Penn State has probably the best spot, right? Right.
Indiana's Strategic Matches
00:00:38
Speaker
Hang on, let me pull up the bracket so that I know what I'm talking about. Um, but ah so what I know is Indiana has Notre Dame, uh, I guess they don't have to go that far. That's that's what I just, I know. And I feel pretty good about that matchup. I feel pretty good about it just because, and then they have Georgia who's starting quarterback, uh, basically lost yeah functionality of his right arm. He's not even that great anyway.
00:01:04
Speaker
Right. But so if they're if they're a, uh, an injured they have a to their backup is a five star QB. Yeah.
Oregon's Challenges and Team Preferences
00:01:13
Speaker
But you got to think about the team chemistry. I'm just saying, Oh, you know, what they're saying, did you watch that game that literally the, the Oregon, if I'm Oregon, I'm pissed. Why? Oh, cause they got the hardest quarter. You got to play either Ohio state or Tennessee. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah.
00:01:33
Speaker
Bummer. I mean, yeah, well, you know, you could have lost and probably ended up in a better spot. Depends. Yeah, yeah then you'd be playing SMU and Boise State. Yeah, maybe weird.
00:01:50
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know if I love the layout of the bracket. Yeah, but when when that backup quarterback came out for Georgia, they scored their first touchdown in the game. Right. Right. I know.
00:02:01
Speaker
um just I'm just, I've just, I feel like, cause if we were going up against any, but any, ah anybody between Texas, Tennessee, Ohio state, uh, even Penn state, I mean, I don't like any of those match-ups. Yeah. I think Penn state, I think you guys would be could beat Penn state. I think it's like, that's a 50 50. That'll win a lot of big games.
00:02:26
Speaker
Uh, so, well, so what would you rather have? Would you rather in your first round match, would you rather go against Notre Dame or Ohio state? Notre Dame, for sure. Notre Dame.
Notre Dame's Ranking and Surprise Contenders
00:02:34
Speaker
Notre Dame. Right. And then, I mean, maybe Clemson would be a better matchup. Yeah, maybe I think so. I don't know. They've lost a lot. That's true. But I mean, that's the 12 seed. I should be looking at like,
00:02:50
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Penn State, Tennessee. I definitely don't want to play Tennessee. I don't know. It's obviously not going to be easy anyway, but I'm excited for the Hoosiers. Yeah, it's exciting. Very exciting. See what happens. They could, they can lose to Notre Dame and people will be like making the semis against Boise State, but they can't do anything to stop Ashton G. So a Boise State takes out Penn State. In fact, nobody can. I'm taking Boise State to win it all. I don't, I don't like that for some reason.
00:03:21
Speaker
i'm Taking it.
Wrestling Programs and Potential Match-ups
00:03:22
Speaker
I'm sorry. I know I hate it too because they dropped wrestling All right, you just big ass and gente guy take I will admit all happens. I'll pick any Go heavens if he doesn't get the Heisman We can do That's be said yeah know ah prepare the Heisman committee and I'll be sad Yeah x Um, I will take any team that has a wrestling program. So Indiana, Penn State, Ohio state, uh, and ASU. I'll take any, I'll take any of those to win. I think ASU would probably be like after Indiana, that would be the the next team I would cheer for. Yeah. They're a, they're a little bit of a, a little bit of a story. Yeah. Okay. But.
00:04:17
Speaker
I do kind of want to take ASU versus Boise State. That would be kind of cool. That would be sick. Because I would just show all the big 10, mainly the SEC haters. Or the SEC. Yeah. You know, wieners, suckers. I'll call it wieners. What are they? Wieners, suckers. Wieners, wieners.
00:04:41
Speaker
Yeah. I saw a clip the other day about, uh, I can remember what coach is coach of ah of some program. And he was like, probably have all of these teams and their, I think it was, he's like all of these teams that are in the lead of their conferences. And none of them are the historically, you know, great wrestling or great football programs. Um, yeah. And they were like, Oh, what does that tell you these teams would, these teams would be 500 in the sec shut up.
00:05:10
Speaker
Texas, yeah Texas. I still don't understand how you give Clemson the seed below SMU. I don't know. No, no, no. Sorry. I was confused. I confused myself there for a second. That's not what I was thinking about books. Yeah. Cause I, so well, Clemson is ranked behind SMU. So that's why they got, that's why they're behind. I know. I know. I know. I know.
Clemson's Seeding and Cultural Critiques
00:05:31
Speaker
That's not what I was thinking about.
00:05:35
Speaker
i Just don't I don't know. I don't know why Tennessee is so low. I'm like as I think about it I feel like Tennessee should should have probably been the seven What are they they also they lose to they also Arkansas another that and they're the nine a Georgia Yeah, who's got the worst loss in here? These are the words gotta be Notre Dame, right? Oh, yeah probably name Got beat by Northern, Illinois. Yes, probably know today And so there are seven seed dudes. That's what I'm saying. Like they should be I think Notre Dame probably should have been the nine. Dude, that's why I'm kind of happy. They have smoked everybody. They've smoked them. And they've played some good teams. That's true. You're right. No, you're right. They have. They have smoked them. That's a bad loss. Yeah. Who smoked who? I really don't think
00:06:31
Speaker
And I really don't think Bama would have got I really think I know they're like Bama was the next team or whatever but like why why might why not Miami? Throw Miami should be in there anyway You really I don't know some reason I don't want Miami in there. I Like Miami I don't really like Miami They had that kid who's in his like Seventh or eighth year don't they or ninth year whatever it is.
00:06:57
Speaker
Uh, yeah, he's like a lineman or something. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. He's an alignment. I'm thinking of somebody else. Uh, it's a tight end. Kim, Kim Ward. He's a tight end. No, he's a QB. He's I don't know. Uh, it's cam something then the tight end for Miami. He used to play for Oregon and then he transferred to Miami. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:25
Speaker
See I was I liked him too. That's kind of a Cinderella story. I was kind of that's why I wanted Miami to get in not gonna lie Miami, you know if that was if there was one place on earth or at least in the US that you could say, you know, that's the that's where That's that's the entrance to the hell Can McCormick I think so. Yeah, that's Miami just a just a cesspool Of the body not San Francisco San Francisco, I guess you make that's valid. I don't know. Cam McCormick. Cam McCormick. I heard you say thank you. Miami's just a little cooler than Hadon, I guess. San Francisco, you're just like, eh. I love Miami. What are you doing? I'm not going to lie to you. I love Florida. i Florida gets a lot of hate. I love it.
00:08:16
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. Florida is cool. It's a cool it's a great state. I, I, you know, I like the the scenery. It's cool. I'm not to lie. Would you consider Orlando like, and not would would you consider that a nice place to live? Hell no. Orlando? No way. No, but it's a cool place to vacation. Yeah. Okay. So you would want to visit Florida, but not, not live there.
00:08:45
Speaker
ah I would live in like Brandon and good spots Yeah, I mean Miami would be stay was quite glass I Stayed with the cart glass one summer for like a week in Brandon, Florida. Just near it's near Tampa Bay Yes, it's kind of cool. It was cool. I and i enjoyed it. Yeah, man, Florida's home I'm just hating on Miami because it's full of influencers and youtubers and shit, you know, just terrible people That's true. Good point Terrible, terrible. Awful. Scum of the Earth. What are we doing? I don't know about Scum of the Earth. The Scum of the Earth is CEOs of companies and... Yeah, all the pharma people. Yeah. Just the worst. Can't be a good person if you come from there. Pretty much. and Oh my goodness, all right.
00:09:40
Speaker
All right.
Wrestling Tournament Highlights
00:09:41
Speaker
and Let's get into some wrestling everybody. Welcome back to the barn session. Uh, we had a big weekend, the big regular, the biggest regular season, uh, event of the year. CKLV wrapped up yesterday and there's a lot to dig into here.
00:09:58
Speaker
ah High level thing or high level notes, the placement at the end of it first went to Oklahoma state, second, Nebraska, third, Ohio state, fourth, Virginia tech and fifth, Iowa state, Oklahoma state nearly doubled. Uh, second place point wise, they scored 192, Nebraska scored 115. Um, the, the Cowboys had two first place. I don't know if that's, I don't know if you can call that nearly Sammy.
00:10:28
Speaker
I mean, it's, it's 38 points away. Yeah. That's not, I mean, that's like, it's quite a few points, Sammy. Okay. All right. They, uh, wrong. forward sam They outscored Nebraska by nearly 80 points by nearly 80 points. There you go. Um, they had two champs, uh, two runner-ups.
00:10:52
Speaker
three runner-ups, uh, one, two, three third place finishes a fourth and a fifth. Um, nobody underperformed. Nobody performed below their seat. Yeah. Yeah. This was, this was some slow starts, but some great finishes. So it starts great finishes. Uh, how do you guys want to, how do you guys want to go about this? You should want to go weight by weight and figure it out from there. Yeah.
00:11:20
Speaker
All right. So at one 25, you have Matt Ramos beating Eddie Ventresca in the finals, uh, and Troy Spratly taking out Caleb Smith for third place, uh, Brandon McCrone maximum or fifth place, Brandon McCrone, six maximum rent area, seven tanner Jordan and eighth to Marcelo Milani. Ooh. Who's that last one? my so moanni Where's he from? Cornell, Cornell backup.
00:11:47
Speaker
Ah, not not. I don't. Yeah, I don't think he's like. Or these is he going to be the starter? Yeah, I don't know if this if this starts to raise the potential of a roster battle at 125 for Cornell. He he kind of I'm going to say he kind of snuck in a little bit, though. He in the blood round, he would have wrestled Vince Robinson, but he medically forfeited in the quarters. You know what sounds about.
00:12:14
Speaker
Mm hmm. I didn't hear anything from from anybody. I don't really know what was going on. Most likely a legitimate injury as or, you know, when you compared to a lot of the other ones that I was wondering if it was that or a weight issue. But I guess I think I think you would have finished out the day even if it was a weight issue. True. Yeah. Right. Because that was there was one more round for the day. Then they wrestled through the quarters on day one. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:44
Speaker
Um, sure. Yeah. So, I mean, maybe if you watch the his match, his match in the round of 16 against Didrick Navarro, maybe you see him tweak something, but I don't think he he doesn't take injury time at all. So since you stay, I don't know a lot of injuries. Well, they got ah they got ah some I guess some holes to plug. Yeah. ah bi But, uh.
00:13:10
Speaker
Mike Ramos looked pretty good through throughout this entire tournament. He hand handedly beat Troy Spratly. Same thing with Ventresca handedly. So it was the only take the match. I didn't see that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he so he he didn't give up any takedowns and just kind of was winning every position.
00:13:33
Speaker
um So probably the guy that you should look at to be the, the front runner at this weight right now. Um, if we see Figueroa get healthy, that he comes back into the conversation, but if he's not right now, then Matt Ramos is the man. Um, I don't know.
00:13:53
Speaker
I don't know who can challenge him. Maybe Caleb Smith. Cause he seems to be kind of the benchmark guy for, if you can, if you could take down Caleb Smith, then you are a guy who's, uh, kind of jumping into that, that higher tier where you're an all, you're an all American contender. Um, if you can't take them down, it's going to be, obviously it's going to be a, uh, a very close match, but, um, one that.
00:14:19
Speaker
could go either way, like Ventresca won on writing time and write outs. So yeah, I think ah that would be an interesting matchup. We'll see it obviously with Smith and Ramos being in the big 10. It sucks that we didn't get to see Vince Robinson and Matt Ramos wrestle. I think that would have been, that's, that would have been the match. I don't know. Do you think that would have been his biggest test? Spratly and Ventresca are obviously really good, but No, I guess we need to know more about Robinson. Not ready to say Vincent. Vince Robinson can test him any better than those guys. Right. Yeah. He's just got that style where, you know, it's good to slow you down. Yeah, he's he's tough. to he's He's so tough to finish shots on. he's He's very tricky and dangerous. If you get stuffed underneath, you can end up in a lot of trouble there.
00:15:16
Speaker
Uh, but so aside from Ramos, it's good to see Ventress get back to form after being injured last year. So I'm, I'm happy to see that. And I think there were a lot of question marks around his health and his ability this year. And it's kind of quieted those down with the runner up performance here. So yeah, it's better than ever back in better. Um, joyful. Other notes. Uh, there's another guy who I think could challenge Ramos, but he's been ah apparently he's injured.
00:15:46
Speaker
Really? Because he would have wrestled in this tournament. Right. That's right. Yeah. Well, so he lost to ah Oklahoma, right? He lost to, yeah. Is that where, what's his name is from? ah Anthony Lorenzo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But maybe that was an interesting thing. Yeah, maybe. um The last note I have on this weight, Nick Treister,
00:16:16
Speaker
uh kind of was in position to win a match against uh Tanner Jordan and for those of you who don't know Nick Treaster this is this is a Kansas native so we yeah i like to spotlight them a little bit um but yeah he he looked really good against Tanner Jordan just kind of was starting to get outmanned by the end of the match um But if you're able to do that against an all American level guy, somebody to keep an eye on throughout the year. So all you Kansas people out there, there's your, uh, there's your little slice to take it to keep an eye on. So yeah, just a freshman, right? This freshman year, just a freshman. Yeah. He did his prep year last year and probably, probably see him in the lineup. Um, I think they have another good option at one 25, so we'll see.
00:17:01
Speaker
um one thirty three 133, just, I don't even know, I don't even know where to begin at this weight. I guess we'll start at the top. Uh, Zeth Romney, uh, kind of comes out of, comes out of nowhere as the five seed, but, but still not really somebody that people were considering to be the champ, uh, comes out and wins, takes out Evan Frost in the finals. Nick Buzakis takes third, uh, Reese Whitcraft at fourth, Tyler Knox fifth, Jacob Van D six, Derek Cardmill seventh, and Dylan Ragison all the way down at eighth. Um,
00:17:34
Speaker
Yeah, so Seth Romney took out Derek Cardinale, Nick Buzakis, Jacob Van D and Evan Frost. ah And yeah, his closest match was Buzakis 6-5 match.
00:17:51
Speaker
ah Other things to note here. Oh, Evan Frost probably should not have been in the finals. Come on, just give it to him. Very impressive what he did against Julian Clabove in the quarters. Clabove was not pinned. Yeah, that was a bad call. Nope. Yep. But don't get tilt. Don't get taken down and then tilted, you know, when you're up yeah to the two. Right. that I mean, he must have been so tired. Yeah. cross snap yet Even after he got pinned. roll through to
00:18:24
Speaker
Yeah, even after he got pinned he was just on the mat just you could see him breathing. It's like yeah Apparently glad I'm not him right now. Did did you I was listening to Bosch today and I guess They were they were talking about him being because Willie I guess Willie is related to him somehow clay both Is it and he? said Extremely devastated after that match Yeah, I mean. And then, yeah, yeah. Yeah, then on the backside, Clebo gets majored 15 to six. I'm guessing this was just. Sad boy hours. Maybe some sad boy hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of want to say the same thing for Ragison. I just did not. He did not seem like ah he was ready to go out there and and really wrestle. um Front front side, sad boy hours. Is that what you're saying? No, and no, no, no, no. After he lost to Vandy when he was wrest on the backside against Buzakis and then
00:19:17
Speaker
And then Cardinali just did not look like, just did not look like they did the Ragison that is going to go out there and try and contend for a national title. so ah Backside Boozy was yeah ah out and about, but also Backside Whitcraft who got pinned in.
00:19:37
Speaker
Dude. Yeah, there it is. So he had, he had Troy Homan, uh, in round one gets reversed. He gets reversed and on the reversal, he is in danger of getting up, ending up on his back, but then gets out of that. And then Homan just kind of drives into lock up a cradle and then in pins him with that sticks him. Um, I think Homan goes on to lose his next two matches, but wet craft.
00:20:04
Speaker
Comes all the way out the backside to make it into the third place match where he loses to Buzak is 13 to 10. That's a fun match. So yeah. Um, just a lot of chaos. What craft is he, is he an all American contender?
00:20:21
Speaker
Not sure. I think he can be. I don't want to put him there though. I think he needs to pull the weight up. I'm, I'm pulling it up right now.
00:20:34
Speaker
Give me one second, though. So what did you think about, I mean, you have either you guys have any thoughts about Ragison's match against Vandy? I think.
00:20:49
Speaker
I think we need to keep an eye on. Wow, I didn't realize that witchcraft is a senior this year. I think we need to keep an eye on Vandy throughout the year. Uh, he could, he could be really, really good, but I, because after he beat Ragus and I was like, okay, Vandy is going to win this bracket. Uh, and then he loses to Romney and I'm like, okay, what's going on here? And Romney wins it. I think this weight's kind of in a little bit of chaos. I think we're going to see a lot of cannibalized results throughout the year where there's just a.
00:21:18
Speaker
ah a circus. You're just not going to see consistency. So you're telling me, yes, he has a shot at the boat and he's a contender for the All-American status. I think I want to say yes to that because I mean, his only losses are Troy Holman and Nick Buzakis. He took out Case Mauger and Stockton O'Brien in two duels earlier this year and he took out Jacob Van D, Derek Cardinal and Uh, those are some good wins. Obviously he was in a, in a match of 13 to 10 matching against Nick Bizakis. So yeah, I think he can place. Do I want to put him as, as an all American contender guy? No, I think if I were to put 10 for all American status. ah Okay. No, if I were to put, I don't think I would put him as a top eight guy right now. I think I would put him like, I think he would, I would see him finishing around a 12 right now. bubble boy He's a bubble boy.
00:22:13
Speaker
Who can't be that you think can make the top 12? I don't know who can't he be. Who can he be that way? Who are top eight? I mean, yeah, let's see. I think there's somebody probably can't be like Ryan. What's his name? Yeah, Crookham, Crookham, Bailey. I don't think he beats Bailey.
00:22:35
Speaker
Bailey, what what do we think about Brady Davis birds kind of a bad match? Yeah, Davis, I don't know. That's a tough one. I think he could probably be Davis. but I don't know. He's probably too solid. What craft would drink it all could be Iola McGonagall. The problem with Reese is he just I think he could beat McGonagall. He just makes too many mistakes. He's you know, he which you know, I respect the way he wrestles, but he's fun to watch. Now he's got now he's got the guy who's helping him clean up those mistakes.
00:23:05
Speaker
That's true. He could reach his central guys in there. He's got Gil. Yeah. Gilman. Gilman. If he, RBY. If he peaks the way he can and the way he should. Yeah. I think, I think you need to, if you're, you should be happy as an Oklahoma state fan to, to have him rest on one 33 at the end of the year, but it's a long season. So got to have things go in the right way.
00:23:28
Speaker
Are we going to see some magic man magic at the end of the year? Are we going to, you know, as one of the Oakland, Oakland mistake guys that we're not expecting to really do anything going to do something and surprise us? Yes. The stock is up. The stock is definitely up on the Cowboys. I think this was kind of, this was their, their, their, their, you know, their proof where they, they showed up and they, they showed out. So did Caleb fish solidify himself as the 57 or I don't think think Travis could still compete. I think, man, I would sp i have to think that he's.
00:24:05
Speaker
Oh, oh, oh, he was even at 57. Talk about surprise that hour he was behind.
00:24:14
Speaker
lost you there race We lost you there for a second. Oh, it's because I was on a different page. Probably. I was on some rankings. Anyway, I, I'm surprised to see him at 57. I'm in, I'm surprised that he is behind take Travis being a 57. Cause I would think that he's better than, well, do you think he is anymore though? No, I would have always thought I, I think he's better than take Travis. Do you think there were so much, that's my question though is like,
00:24:43
Speaker
Did he solidify it? Or do you think there will be there will be more? I don't think the team Travis is stomping Panera Johnson. That's for sure.
00:24:54
Speaker
Yeah, so I started paying attention to fish when he was dress in salatee in in the blood round. He kind of I don't know if it's like a previous like last. They used to be teammates, so it was kind of a big brother thing. ah But he won that he majored in 13 to five. That was a really good look majors, you know, having zero.
00:25:12
Speaker
But stuff the yeah the unfortunate thing is Joey Blaze took a little bit of ah took a little bit of ah an injury against Ryder Downey. So a Fish gets a medical forfeit there. And then ah Gallagher, Patti Gallagher wins his consi-semi match and then medically forfeits for third. So we don't get to see Fish against those guys, which sucks. I didn't know and didn't know if Patti Gallagher forfeited. I heard a pretty yeah crazy stat about the forfeits.
00:25:40
Speaker
If you take out the the finals, all the final matches, 10 out of 30 placement matches were forfeits. Yep. That's insane. Yep. Now, I think there were some some so like actual legitimate injuries and in there. um Feldman, Blaze, ah some other ones that I can't think of right now. But those... What happened to Feldman?
00:26:07
Speaker
Feldman, I think he jacked up his rib or something. He high fire. I thought that's why I seriously think that's what it was. I think he went for that high fire and maybe Hendrickson trying to high fire. Why Hendrickson? His show in it almost got it. He almost got it. We put Wyatt on his back and then Wyatt somehow bounced him off and ended up on top. of us So did when when Wyatt came down on him, you think that's when it when he messed. I think his head might have cracked his head or his shoulder. Yeah.
00:26:36
Speaker
Yeah or ah yeah shoulder ribs shoulder. um No oh yeah point in time why it was straight up and down. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if if maybe Feldman also might have hurt his shoulder. There's something that's not okay with him though because he was on the mat afterwards just like that sucks. I don't think that's a guy who's who's like gonna let a little injury affect him a lot so.
00:27:02
Speaker
But hopefully it's something that he just needs to take some time and he'll be good, so. There's one more thing I wanted to mention about 133, and that is Corey Land, who looked really good um up until the point in his quarters match where Tyler Knox, Corey Land is on top after a takedown, Tyler Knox is trying to stop him from slipping in a boot, he's got the foot, and it's kind of putting pressure on Corey Land's knee, something goes pop,
00:27:30
Speaker
Uh, probably ah a position, a situation where refs need to be ready to stop the match quickly or on their feet. No, no, no, no. So he's a land is on top. Yeah. And he's trying to slip in a boot and Knox is in his base, but he's got he's got his foot up or his foot and he's got it elevated because he's trying to stop it from going between his legs. And that pressure is just going on the knee. And you see so you visibly see something go pop and he has to roll back. I don't know how you would stop that, though, as an official.
00:28:05
Speaker
ah I don't know, because I see that and I think about the same type of pressure, the same thing that happened to Storachi last year, that same type of knee injury happened to to an Indiana kid a couple of years ago, too. ah So I don't know, I just I think that there needs to be some sort of a ah ah addressing of that because it's been a repetitive
00:28:28
Speaker
a repetitive situation where pressure does this the interest oh yeah you pressure in when the knees are all tangled or the legs are all tangled up. You just get pressure into each other. You can have double ACLs blown out if you do that. would Maybe we should just not throw boots in so liberally. But it's my not even a leg riding hater. it's It's all sorts of stuff. There's a lot of sorts of positions. Yeah, I don't know.
00:28:56
Speaker
I like read the shit out of you. recently I've never seen you. with You refuse to ride like most of the matches I saw in your, you know, in your twilight years. And then when I did ride, I was a Lager. I didn't, I didn't know that, I guess. I would destroy you with the legs. Well, that's why I hate them. The legs is what got me, uh, got me past my blood round match. And Juco Nationals, freshman year.
00:29:26
Speaker
bats and power half baby and just you're like i can be here all freakin day official's not goingnna say sh shit he's not even gonna i turned him back left him over you fucking
00:29:40
Speaker
power half the shit out of head dude it mark perrys stylele I remember at going to um yeah Juko, when you were at Iowa Central and I was sitting with Saul Ortiz and he was like, he told me openly, he's like, yeah, you can basically like, you can just get like a chicken wing or a bar or something and just like stay parallel and just wait for the official to start racking up stall calls on bottom guy. Unless I knew it.
00:30:08
Speaker
Dude, the worst, the worst is the Blair ride. Yeah. i There's, there's little to anything that you can do unless you were just outright way stronger than the guy on top of you. If you're on bottom and somebody's got a Blair right on you, you're pretty much stuck there. You're stuck there.
00:30:23
Speaker
Pretty much. Yeah, that's all Cassiope you did. That was so hard to watch. The thigh pry? Well, that and the double thigh pry, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean, back to the point, it sucks that that happened to Corey Land. I was really looking forward to seeing him wrestle through this tournament. I don't know when I became a Corey Land fan. Maybe it's because I live in Alabama now.
00:30:46
Speaker
but You just want and I just you just want to see like a guy who was really good in high school have some success success success Especially when they're out of school like Northern Iowa did Yeah, I also I also just like watching the the panther train roll. Yeah, so It's a really fun thing
00:31:05
Speaker
Uh, okay. Anything else at one 33 or we want to move on up to one 41 move along. Move it on. Oh, one 41 champion here. Jesse Mendez. I think we all kind of, we all said that, right? Yeah. I kind of want to Jesse Mendez takes rock hardy, but I didn't.
00:31:24
Speaker
Yeah. Jesse Mendez takes out, uh, taking Jamison in the finals, Brock Hardy for third, Josh Coderhant for fourth, who we should, we should talk about Jacob Frost fifth, same Latona sixth, Sergio Lemley seventh, and Cale Hapel eighth. That's your, actually, no, Ryan, I think, I think Ryan took Hapel to win it. Oh, finals. No, Ryan took Hapel for the finals. I think also, no, I didn't. What'd you have to third over, over, I don't know. You had, I remember you saying something about Cale Hapel. I had Mendez. Oh, I did have Hapel in the finals. Right.
00:31:55
Speaker
i Thought I thought I'd have I had Jameson over Hardy I thought I picked Mendez Jameson Apple Hardy, but I had Mendez Apple Jameson Hardy. That's what I had There you go, okay Because remember i I almost went with I almost went with yes and Gary For fourth and Hardy at third and then I remember Jameson was in there and I was like Jameson third and you're like david taylor oh yeah Was I wrong no Was I wrong? No. In fact, I I fucking I should have had him higher. You look so crazy. I can't see your mouth at all, bro. It's just black. It is. It's just because of that beard, baby. Beard and great lighting.
00:32:43
Speaker
uh yeah jesse mendez looked really good the the match where if you're a jesse mendez fan and you're a little scared it's his semis against josh coderhant who Willy Saylor mentioned it before. i mean I mean, he mentioned it, I think, in in his pre-season. In an article? Article. Like, this is a guy that people need to pay attention to. And he mentioned it for the CKLV. And I think people will pay attention now. He took out Sergio Lemley in the quarters, two to one, um and then had an eight to six match with Jesse Mendez.
00:33:16
Speaker
um Yeah, I mean, this guy. We all, I mean, you know, what do you think he's, you think he'll be able to beat? You think you'll be able to crack into like the top three or four? I don't think so. I don't know. It's a good question. Well, OK, I I have to I think his match against Brock Hardy. Yeah, he got ah he got who he got pinned in 41 seconds by Brock Hardy. So I think he's a guy that people need to pay attention to. Keep an eye on um his match.
00:33:53
Speaker
in the quarters against Sergio. That is one match I did watch and extremely frustrating to watch. ah This happened a few times. I watched like guys in the ultimate tiebreakers or the right outs. One guy would get the you know right out in the first 30 seconds. The other guy would pick neutral and try to get a takedown, take like one attack, one shot. And then just like Sergio literally took a shot And like 50, he took like maybe 15 fakes and like one or two shots out of all those fakes and Kutterhand literally did not bite on a single fake. I'm like, I'm just like, dude, I don't know. It's just hard to watch. And Panera Johnson did the same thing against, uh, who are you listening to? Patty, Patty Gallagher.
00:34:43
Speaker
He literally took one shot and then he was like, you know what? No, I'm just going to try to push him out of bounds for a stall point. Like you're yeah that's crazy. I mean, that is not a fun position to be in. I think, uh, I think we should, uh, change our overtime rules. I think, I think guys should just stop being so afraid of like attacking, dude. What are you got nothing to lose? They've got everything to lose. Well, they're already losing something to lose. Yeah.
00:35:11
Speaker
It's incredibly, ay like it's almost easier to score off a re-attack than it is to score off an initial attack. I know. 100% is. I know that. 100%. OK. Well, then there you go. there That answers everything for you right there. Whether they when you whether they so take you down or not, you are losing.
00:35:30
Speaker
So you might as well yeah commit. Otherwise, you are sink you are going to lose, sir.
Wrestling Rule Changes and Controversies
00:35:36
Speaker
fake A fake is not going to get you what you need, especially after the first three fakes. the first three If he doesn't bite on the first three fakes, then, you know, start shooting. no Yeah. Or something.
00:35:49
Speaker
it's it's yeah you you know It's that drill where you're partner A and you're down by one and you got 30 seconds and a lab go and you got a score. Just got to figure it out. You're going to fake what it's goingnna look like hit a bunch of fakes. You try to push the guy around. No. You're going to throw everything you got out of i'm gonna give it all that point to match. You don't have a whole lot left. You got to channel your inner Iranian. Those guys. Honestly, we should just do unlimited on your feet over time. Whoever scores first wins. I mean, I'm cool with that. Just wouldn't work very well in a tourmentment tournament tournament format, would it? No. No, it would mess up timing on stuff.
00:36:27
Speaker
It would destroy timing on stuff. Are you kidding? You would never see wrestling on TV ever again. Period. I'm serious. That's for the Olympics. OK. Well, you know what I mean, though. What about criteria that we just get rid of over time and make it criteria? Give them that tier. No. Yeah. I also disapprove of criteria. I like OT. I think we could find a happy medium.
00:37:00
Speaker
I don't know what that means. I think I think you could tweak the rules in overtime to make them better. And I think criteria because I don't think criteria is perfect is what I'm trying to say. I think like yeah something like like last point scored. I think that's a stupid time breaker. Right, because that because criteria then at that point for folk star wrestling would just be who gets it's a coin flip, you know, who gets to pick what when. Yeah.
00:37:28
Speaker
um OK, we'll figure out the rules later. We'll get that sorted out and we'll we'll let we'll let everybody know what what we're going to make the rules be moving forward. ah Sam Latona had some highs and lows here, I think. ah I think, dude, he. Have you do you guys know how tall he is? He looked really big against Jesse. man He's like he's like your height, Sammy. No he might way taller than me. Do you think he's as tall as you, Sammy?
00:37:59
Speaker
Dude, he's so he' so long. Yeah, but man i would guess he's like I would guess he's like maybe an inch taller than me. How did he ever wrestle 125? I don't know. His height is probably on Virginia Tech's. No, he's he's definitely gotten taller since he's gotten to college. yeah hes He's still growing for sure.
00:38:22
Speaker
Growing boy, at his height. Uh, is it on here? No, no, they just have the weight. He wrestles 141. He's physical freak. Yeah. He looked good. Look, did you just look up Sam Latona to see if maybe Google knows it?
00:38:43
Speaker
Yeah. Same Latona height. Do it. I mean, sometimes. Latona height. Nope. Nothing. You gave up two too fast. Okay, I'm sorry. ah On the 2024 men's soccer roster at Cornell University, Sam Latona is 5'8", 175. I could be our guy. Run with that. Run with that. Jacob Frost, another person who I think impressed a good number of people, unseated, coming out and taking- So how did Sam Latona do? I don't, I didn't- Sam Latona, he finished out at sixth, he- You gotta be by Frost, Jacob Frost.
00:39:20
Speaker
Well, he medically forfeited. That's a loss. Yeah, no, it's a loss. It's a loss, but we're not happy about forfeits and and metal matches. Actually, it's not a loss. It's a loss in our hearts. It is a loss. It's the first one's a loss. ahh The first medical forfeit is a loss. Does that count at regular season tournaments or is that only at open or are only at conferences?
00:39:49
Speaker
I thought it was just, it counts as a loss on your record. Well, now I have to look and see. It's what I, it's what I heard this morning. See that's okay. Cause I, what I, what I'm confused, I'm just confused cause like, how does it work for duels then? You know what I mean? how does it Yeah. Cause it doesn't really, right? Yeah. I don't know. That's a weird one. Yeah. but Everyone on your roster. That's out of that way. Get a loss. You know what I mean? Yeah.
00:40:18
Speaker
Well, you know, duels, they really, truly, really, and truly don't matter. I know. But if you did it that way, do you think it would matter then? A little bit more. It definitely would a little more.
00:40:35
Speaker
All right. let duels Your wins and losses and duels count for every everyone. in that weight class. So if you went into a duel, everybody shares the win. And they also share the loss. I talked about this idea where like you aren't looking at your record as an individual. You are looking at it as that that school's weight class representation. So it's a cumulative of all of the varsity matches that happen at that weight class for that team.
00:41:04
Speaker
um I don't know about all that, but that's, it's, it's, it's not a great idea, but it's, see, you've complicated it. I've made it simple. Why did I complicate it? I don't know, but I did. I've made it simple. Okay. it is yeah quite Let's, let's move on and move up to one 49 where we got the hit man.
00:41:26
Speaker
Taking out everybody. He, Caleb Henson wins. He beats Ridge Lovett in the finals. Jayden Abbess takes third. Anthony Etchemendia takes fourth. Carter Young fifth. Sammy Alvarez sixth. Colin Reelbudo seventh. And Ethan Fernandez eighth. Looks like the number one guy at the weight. did He did the thing. He did he took he took down Ridge Lovett twice. What was the score? Six to three.
00:41:51
Speaker
so So at the end of the first period, Caleb Henson gets a takedown and Ridge Lovett basically immediately gets a reversal. ah So it's three to two after the first. Ridge Lovett takes bottom. Caleb Henson picks neutral. It's three to three in the third. Henson gets the takedown.
00:42:08
Speaker
yeah And seems like he's got on top of this, on top of all this, Ichimendia should have beaten Ridge Lovett. Yeah. I mean, I don't know about should have. Why should have?
00:42:20
Speaker
OK, all right. So he gets that takedown and then cuts him like he his coaches were telling him to do. What's the score? Six to two, six to three. The score is is six to three. OK, so Ridge is one takedown away from tying it up. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm leaning echimendia on the takedown game there. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
00:42:43
Speaker
But it's brutal to get reversed and then stuck on your back for the remainder of the period. The remainder of the match. He didn't really even have a chance to cut him. Did he? No. I guess you're right. Because it was like a- Rich reached for his leg. Yeah. It was almost like a Metzger. Immediately grabbed his leg and was like, I'm not letting go of this until I get on top of it. You don't really know how to Russell folk style. You didn't know I could just do this. Yeah. I mean, look.
00:43:12
Speaker
and The biggest, the person I was worried about the most for Etchemendia to be able to beat was, uh, Ridge Lovett at this top tier of people. And he showed that he, I, after that match, I think Etchemendia can beat Ridge Lovett. Um, so I'm ready to say that he is a person who can pull off upsets over guys at that tier. Too bad you won't ever see it again.
00:43:37
Speaker
Oh, because he's going 41. Going to keep him at 49. I like him at 49. He's so much better. Looks pretty good. Yeah, this just makes the weight more fun. Yeah. I want to see him against Henson. I feel like he would definitely, he would be my favorite. But they need Panero at 49 and Chidim at 57. Yeah, well, they're not getting it. They're not getting a trophy. They're stronger. They're stronger that way. Chidim, Chidim wrestled and lost at Cleveland State.
00:44:07
Speaker
Who beat him? I don't I don't think they're going to trophy this year, even with their like optimized lineup. He lost to Brandon Cannon 10 to six.
00:44:18
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, no, I think I think the Brandon Cannon is good. Is that a loss in Nevada guy? Nope. Colorado. Oh, yeah. He ah he's solid, but Dude, I don't know. i think I think Iowa State should rock with the with the lineup that they have right now. um Because Jacob Frost showed that he's solid at 141 too. Right? Yeah. So i i think I think Iowa State should stick with what they have. Yeah, stop trying to make it work and just you know do what you know. Quit trying to tell Dresser what to do. all Don't make it work and work with what you got, Dresser. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, what Sammy just said. Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:06
Speaker
Uh, what else did you talk about? There he goes. We've lost him. He's gone. Uh, anything else of note at this weight from the brothers? Uh, not really. Nope. We said, we said, Sammy Alvarez impressed, right? Yeah. Um,
00:45:34
Speaker
Callin' real budo. Yeah, not bad. du Northern Iowa's gonna have a good good ah good squad this year. Northern Iowa is always tough. I know. You're right. All right, 157. The champ, Trelli. Entrell Taylor. Takes our writer down in the finals. ah Caleb Fish, third. Patty Gallagher, fourth. Jared Hill, fifth. Joey Blaze, sixth. Panero Johnson, seventh. And Rafael Hippolito.
00:46:05
Speaker
eighth place Now tell me this riddle me this How the F Did write it down and not get back points on that roll through don't at least two probably three. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I agree I agree. He probably had near fall on on a child Taylor. I think not probably 100 percent two and had near fall two points, maybe even three Yep. Yeah. You're probably right. Uh, especially with the fact that immediately after that, he gets reversed and they give on trail near fall. Yeah. And he was on his back for like literally just as long, maybe even less time, maybe even less time. Yeah. Uh, and then they reviewed it and still decided it was like, that's the, you gotta have, you gotta to have someone in there to review. You can't have people reviewing their own calls. If you're going to have people reviewing their own calls, don't even have the review.
00:46:58
Speaker
Right, just, yeah. Yeah, that... Downey has a case to be the champ there. ah Especially, did you guys see his semi match against Joey Blaze? Downey? Yes. I did not. it Dude.
00:47:18
Speaker
I've I it's so much fun to watch those two scramble. It was I think they spent the last minute and a half of regulation um holding on to each other's ankles and ah you you like that? um Rolling, ah rolling across every square foot of the some people hate that, but I like it.
00:47:39
Speaker
Well, they I mean, there was a change of who is who is about to score like four or five times. And then the way that it finishes out is writer down. He gets a ball and chain tilt in rolls through to to get the takedown. I ended up in a ball and chain tilt one time in a scramble. I had no idea what happened. And that's the fun thing about it. You're like, how did we end up here? That was a lot of fun. Joy Blaze looks really good, which I hate to admit, but I hope he gets healthy and, and can continue to compete at this weight for the rest of the year. Um, Chase, I'll date the him and Peyton Keller, both losing the quarters, uh, and then.
00:48:23
Speaker
Uh, so that they got, got, got majored in the blood around bite by his old teammate, Caleb fish. And Peyton Keller gets majored by Raphael. Hippolyto 12 to four, dude. That's who does. Uh, Keller. Yeah. Oh, which we know. Hippolyto is going to be good, but that's a tough one there. Uh, Panera Johnson had a really tough one in the blood round with, uh, Chilakian from Stanford, which that, uh,
00:48:51
Speaker
I think that shows boats. Well, for, for Stanford, they're going to have, uh, they're not really worried about, Oh, is Cholakian going to be able to wrestle at this weight while Cardenas is redshirting. I think it's pretty obvious. I think he can. So, um, then again, though, he was dude, he got, he was getting smashed. He was down 13 to zero to Jimmy Harrington picked neutral in the third period. and Really? Wow. And what, what did he do? How?
00:49:20
Speaker
I don't know. I didn't see it, but I'm just looking at the scoreboard right now. Who is Jimmy Hendrickson? Just Harrington. This is the Harvard kid. He beat Ed Scott earlier this year. Jimi Hendrix. Jimi Hendrix. Who is this Jimi Hendrix? Why does he have a guitar in his hand? I cannot load the match right now, but I mean, he's a Greco guy, so he got some upper body tie and put him on his head and pinned him. This was a this was a fun way. I think we I think we have, I think Oklahoma State has their guy at 157. I think Patty Gallagher looks really good. ah This is the first time that we've seen that promise that we saw at the high school level. Didn't really feel like he had shown um what he's really capable of in college until really this weekend is what I think. So that's good for Ohio State. But at the end of the day, Antrell Taylor came out on top in this tournament.
00:50:15
Speaker
Um, controversy or not. He's a champ. So take it home. trelly Take it home back to the house. All right, 165, couple of things to talk about here. We'll start with placements, Peyton Hall, champ, Cameron and Mean second, Terrell Barrowclaw, third, Bubba Wilson, fourth, Drake Rhodes, fifth, Hunter Garvin, sixth, Brock Mantonona, seventh, Kyle Mosher, eighth from Hofstra. Hofstra getting a place or putting somebody on the podium. It's a good look.
00:50:50
Speaker
um Good luck. but but bla
00:50:55
Speaker
That. Yes, that what was that. um
00:51:00
Speaker
Dude, I don't even know where to begin here. I want to begin with saying Sammy Sasso, not a 165 pounder. He's not. You're right. That's a that's a I mean, all right. So can he not beat Patty at 57 then?
00:51:15
Speaker
Dude, gosh, it would be hard to believe that he couldn't beat Paddy Gallagher, but maybe. Well, if I'm yeah umm just saying, dude, I just feel like Sammy's that kind of guy, like once you figure him out, you're going to beat him. unless he bring Unless he decides to change. It's crazy. Why? Why? Because I've just I've seen him beat guys consistently. And it it feels like he it feels like he figures guys out better than the the other way around. Yeah, but come on.
00:51:45
Speaker
coming off coming off a major injury, like it's coming off of, and then like, he's just not gonna be the same guy anymore. Well, maybe someday.
00:51:54
Speaker
Not at 165. Probably not at 165. No, he's small for 165. I don't know if there's any complications with him cutting weight, if that poses a problem for him. um I just think about also the, what sorry, what Jesse Mendez said when he, they I watched an interview of his where he was like, yeah,
00:52:16
Speaker
Um, when I first got to Ohio state, it took me, um, like, it took me like a month to take down Logan Steber. Uh, and I never took down Sammy Sasso in my first season. And that made me, that just made me, I don't know. I was just like, Dan, he's really that guy. Yeah. He's that guy. Yeah. But I think, yeah. If I'm Sammy Sasso at one point, like at that time, like I'm never getting taken down by anybody.
00:52:46
Speaker
Yeah, this is a different yeah this is a different situation just because you're gonna you're coming up against guys Especially if you're giving up a little bit of weight, you're coming up with guys who are just going to be able to hoss through positions Yeah, he just did not look strong enough He's just and I mean yeah He had some complications with his nerves. Didn't you after he got
Wrestling Performance Discussions
00:53:05
Speaker
shot? Like his is he's just not gonna be the same Well, you know what Ryan you're you sound like a freaking like one of those Doctors like one of those freaking medical Scientists who are like, yeah, I'm saying I'm repeating what I've what I've read online like never be that and me um never watch again Literally what people are saying that like he's like, yeah He's gonna be able to compete again, but he's just not gonna be the same guy. You don't bully well Jesse Mendo said he was back to 100% so
00:53:34
Speaker
Okay, that's a teammate. That's a teammate. I mean who are these guys that you're he looked like he was back to a hundred percent reason No people you see things you see on Twitter after the accident happened And then you were keeping up with it more and more and they're telling you about all the complications that are with it And I mean, you know, he was struggling to walk for a while right like some I yes Ryan, but have some faith dude. He's went from struggling to walk to Wrestling he's wrestling competitive. Okay I know, I know, I know, I know, but it was, it still was only like two years or yeah, two years ago that it happened. So give him some time. Give him a little more time. He's got more time. It's a couple of months, Reese. Come on. I think, I think we can see a.
00:54:21
Speaker
an improvement. Yes. Is it going to be a remarkable improvement where he goes from where he's at right now to a title contender, which is what he was before he got shot? Probably not. I think if he gets 57, he is immediately an all American like contender. Yes. 57 is not as deep as 65. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it's 65. I don't think even if he was at a hundred percent, like 165 is too big for him.
00:54:49
Speaker
I think, yeah. So he seems out of his percent. He's definitely an all American tender at one 65. Yeah, maybe. But he still he's still a hundred percent of he's still to pre shot 100 percent. He's still too small for one 65 is my point. Yeah. Yeah. Because like, I mean, Bubba Wilson. right So this is in the quarters, Sammy Sasso lost to Bubba Wilson, right? Bubba Wilson last year was a 74 pounder. yeah hey look He's probably he's probably way stronger than most of the people that Sammy Sasso has wrestled.
00:55:17
Speaker
Right. So that difference is, is not going to be an an easy thing to adjust to. and And maybe you can navigate situations. I mean, and that, that was a one take down match too. Right. Yeah. But it was also a match where Bubba figured out, he's like, Oh, this is how, like, he's going to let me get to his leg. I just need to get to my finish quicker at the very end of the match. And then I'll be able he got to take down. Okay.
00:55:41
Speaker
That's that's being tactical as well. I know you're you're saying like he can't like Sammy can't Mike's him couldn't win that match I'm saying it's gonna be easier for guys to figure Sammy out That is what I've been saying since we started this I get what you're saying. I don't I disagree. get I disagree Well, I just proved I mean bevel Wilson proved it I But not really. He doesn't. Well, I think yeah I think we need the match. I mean, all right. OK, Caleb Henson proved it when he was still at forty nine. How about that? Against two. Sam Sasso. Caleb Sami Sasso, Caleb Henson, Sami Sasso. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, they did wrestle each other. I forgot that they wrestled each other. Oh, yeah. Yeah. OK.
00:56:32
Speaker
Because if he figured it out, he's like, oh, Sammy's just going to let me keep getting to his legs. All right, well, I just got to finish quicker. All right, well, I'm sure that's easier said than done. Examples of the opposite, too.
00:56:45
Speaker
It's I, ah so another thing. ah So another match to bring up for Sammy Sasso is his match against Terrell Barrowclaw who won five to zero, wrote him out, got away, took him down. Um, I, I think if he, if, if Sammy Sasso wants a chance to perform his best, it's not going to be at 165. I think he'll figure some things out and he'll improve if he can, if he continues to wrestle 165, but he will not be a guy who you can guarantee places on the podium.
00:57:11
Speaker
He will not be a guy that is an All-American or has a title contender. He's probably a round of 12. Maybe he slips in as All-American. That's where he's at right now. But also the thing to note is the two people that he lost to in this tournament took third and fourth. So, you know, take both of those facts for what you will.
00:57:34
Speaker
ah i do I do believe also though, Reece, that you said that You thought Sammy Sasso might be able to wrestle with Mitchell Wissenberg. I did. Then I saw how small he was compared to Bubba Wilson. and I was asking. I was going to ask. I just didn't follow the question it was going to be if you still felt that way. I was more hopeful. I was more hopeful that he was like at the right size for 165. I don't know. He didn't look like it at least. I am. I am interested. though I still am interested in that matchup.
00:58:09
Speaker
Cuz that's a guy who who has a high volume of of offensive output, so he shoots a lot, right? So he'll you'll probably figure some things out. But it wouldn't surprise me if Sami Sasse also figure some things out because Mitchell Mesinbrink is not a massive 65 pounder. And I don't think he's crazy strong either. So I'm interested, and maybe it is a blowout, but it's still- That gas tank will be issues for Sami.
00:58:31
Speaker
Probably. has it As it is issues for many people. if I mean, that gas tank is an issue for a guy like Mikey Caliendo. That gas tank's going to be an issue for Sammy Sasso. You're probably right.
00:58:44
Speaker
Okay, back to the bracket. I mentioned Terrell Bearclaw. He's the new backside warrior after last year's backside boozy. He lost round one to Jack Thompson. It was a 10-5 decision. It was a super strange match. um Just Jack Thompson took him down three times and didn't make it seem like it was a one-off thing.
00:59:10
Speaker
ah After that bear claw runs to the backside takes third. Jack Thompson loses in the, uh, blood round to Manta Nona. This was kind of a weird bracket, the way it ended up playing out because the blood round on the top side was Kyle Mosher, getting a medical forfeit over MJ Gaitan and the Drake roads beating Nico Ruiz. And I don't think many people, if any have Drake roads on their radar at all. Drake, what school does he wrestle for? He used to be, it was at Iowa before he was at SDSU.
00:59:42
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he wrestled in a couple of duels for Iowa. Yeah. he So he he ends up getting up to the concert semis. He's scrappy. I figured he was related to Patrick Rhodes. Is there any relation there? I have no idea. No. Where's he from? Great roads. I have no idea. Oh, well, there you go. He but he he beat I think I'm going to say his best when it's probably Hunter Garvin.
01:00:11
Speaker
It's a pretty good one for for the weekend. Um, yeah. And ah let's not forget to mention the fact Peyton Hall looked pretty good. Um, I don't think any of us all look amazing. Yeah.
01:00:25
Speaker
Camamine, I think Camamine had a sort of a return to form and his form unfortunately is this very stingy wrestler. ah It was very frustrating watching him and Bubba Wilson wrestle. Bubba Wilson's a Kansas kid. We always like to cheer him on. and Dude, he was in position to score on takedowns a couple of times. One time it was at the end of the period and ah the rest of the times Camamine either fought it off or found ways to counter it and it was just Yeah. Good for the Oklahoma state and the Cowboys to have that and what 65, but, um, man, Bubba Wilson could win that match. Uh, one 74, this I think had a handful of surprises as well. Um, but I don't think it's much of a surprise for us to say Dean Hamady comes out on top.
01:01:16
Speaker
In this bracket, he takes out Lorenzo Norman in the finals. Garrett Thompson at third. Simon Ruiz at fourth. Revan Cassell fifth. Danny Waske. Danny Waske sixth.
01:01:28
Speaker
Jared Sima seventh and Cade Davos at eighth. Yeah, I think that eighth place finish is the one that probably is going to put most people. Who was it? wast On their heels. Cade. Cade Davos. Ooh. Yeah. Jared Sima had some great wins this weekend. Shout out Jared Sima.
01:01:45
Speaker
Another Kansas kid, shout out Jared Sima. Yeah, he did. So he lost to Garrett Thompson. And so when that match happened, it was an 8-1 shutout. That's not a shutout. Oh, man. i hope No, but I mean, offensively, it was.
01:02:00
Speaker
um And so that that put Thompson on the on the radar for me, because I remember him having some results last year, but I was like, okay, this this is this is promising. It takes out the Voss 10-7, loses to Lorenzo Norman in a 10-6 match. that I think that one could go either way.
01:02:17
Speaker
But I mentioned this and he was a four seed coming into the into the bracket but Lorenzo Norman is gonna be a guy to pay attention to. I think he's ah offensively somebody who can ah take down the top level guys that's going to be O'Toole and Haynes and Hamity. But he's gonna need to be able to figure out how to reduce his opponent's offense.
01:02:40
Speaker
so um But yeah, Dean Hamadi looked pretty much unstoppable. I mean, the finals was a four to three match. um But what happened there? I don't know. Hey, reese did you reach? Did you pick Lorenzo Norman to make the finals, Sammy? I didn't pick he did who applied him. Who picks who picks Lorenzo Norman to make the finals? I don't know if I said who my finalist was going to be, but I mean, I mentioned like, watch out for Lorenzo Norman.
01:03:10
Speaker
Okay. You had no, you can take credit for it. Neither of you guys, neither of you guys picked him. I did. In fact, one of you, I don't remember which one, but one of you called me crazy.
01:03:21
Speaker
I feel like it was Sammy, but I'm not sure. No, I have been saying this whole time about how I was like, this was one of the guys that I wanted to pay attention to this weekend. Maybe it was then. Maybe it was you, Race. Maybe you did tell me I was crazy for picking. I don't know why I didn't say that. One of you judged me for picking Norman to make the finals. And then I was like, how is that a bad pick? He beat Shane Griffin last year. I'll go back to Griffin. I'll listen to it. Griffin.
01:03:50
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ah Yeah, I don't know. i He's good. he's So the finals played out. Norman got the takedown. He got the opening takedown, but he got reversed at the end of the period, gave up an escape, and then got written out in the third period. Bum, bum, bum. Bum, bum, bum. So ah other things to think about. Yes, let's go to the backside here.
01:04:16
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Uh, we were talking about Jared Sima. He takes out Lenny Pinto in the, in the blood around 14 to eight. Yep. Pinto didn't even place in this bracket. I don't know. I don't know how I'm feeling about him down at 74 anymore. Yeah. I had Pinto placing.
01:04:31
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Third, right. Uh, Brevin Cassella takes out Jared Sima in the consi fort. Uh, wasp takes out Davos 11 to seven. And then let me see. Yeah. Jared Sima took out Davos 11 to nine for seventh place. That's a great match. If you want to go back and look at some, look at some film, probably going to see a lot of great wrestling there.
01:04:53
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Uh, Simon Ruiz, I, uh, as a freshman came out here and, and, and took forth for Cornell. That was their, their best result of the weekend and looked pretty good in all of his matches. Uh, he got hammered by Hammity, but I think he's in that range where he can find himself on the podium at the end of the year, but, uh, you're gonna have to figure some things out, make some adjustments.
01:05:18
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Um, I think, uh, Pinto is a good, is good evidence for the fact that just because you move down a weight does not mean you're going to have more success and vice no vice versa.
01:05:36
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Well, it's almost, it's you, it's, you definitely, you, you see more success going one way than the other for sure. going up away For sure. Which are a lot, but a lot of people, I feel like ding guys will say guys aren't proven when they go up versus when they go down and they're like, Oh, are we going to see, are we going to see this guy have more success because he's bigger than the guys he's wrestling? I think in the nineties and early two thousands and maybe even like up to about 2010, 11, 12 ish.
01:06:16
Speaker
That yeah, the, it was probably statistically, uh, you're more successful to move down than it was to go up, but that has just changed. You know what I'm saying? I do. Because I don't know the sport changes, right? Obviously. So I think if people started figuring out that like, Hey, you know, I don't necessarily have to cut weight to be stronger. I can just lift to be stronger.
01:06:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And I think you get cutting weight doesn't always. Yeah. Cutting weight doesn't always equal more strength either. In fact, it it takes away muscle sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you do it the wrong way and a lot of people are going to be prone to doing it the wrong way because it's hard to do it the right way. Uh, that's about it at this weight for me. Uh, Matt Singleton looked pretty good, but, uh,
01:07:14
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Did not quite make it onto the top eight. Lost in the blood round to Davos.
01:07:20
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So bump it up to 184.
Surprising Wrestlers and Future Prospects
01:07:25
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Where we have the man himself, Parker Keck-Eisen, taking out Dustin Platt in the finals eight to three. Bennett Berge takes third. Seth Schumate at fourth. Isaac Dean at fifth. Evan Bachman at sixth. Dennis Robin at seven. Dennis Rodman. Eighth is Jaden Bullock.
01:07:44
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So we all, I mean, this was, this was one of the, one of the easier champs to, to put down on paper, Parker Keckeisen. Uh, he's navigated this field before and he, he did it pretty much in the same fashion this year. Flawlessly. Some people to pay attention to though. Isaac Dean took out Bennett Berge, four to three, and then held plot to a 2-0 match.
01:08:13
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He could be pretty good for Ryder. Ryder? Ryder, yep. Ryder's got him and Alvarez, too. And then they almost had AJ Ferrari. That would have been that have been a sneaky good team.
01:08:25
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ah But yeah, ah Seth Schumay also rounding into form for Ohio State, because he's, I mean, this is his third year in college, shuma right? Right? I don't know. He's like hot as age, right? So he should be. it's Older than that. She made I was kidding. She made is this is his third year. He was a redshirt in twenty three redshirt freshman last year. He's a sophomore this year. Six and three so far ah got majored by Michael Beard. Yeah, he I think he was a year younger than Kyle Hossries. Makes sense. Or at least a grade. Yeah, dude, he did tech fault Isaac Dean earlier this year or no, not really this year at this tournament. Interesting. OK.
01:09:10
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ah But yeah, his losses are Bergy, Kekeisen, and Beard. So solid losses, solid wins. He'll be fun for the for the Buckeyes this year. I thought, so is Rogatsky redshirting?
01:09:30
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spin Isn't he 84? Maybe he's hurt. Let's see here. See if I can find anything. Uh, no, I mean, wrestle stat still has him listed as the starter. So I don't know. We'll see. He's only wrestled one match this year. We'll have to pay attention to that. Probably bang that. Probably a little bit. Dennis Robin for West Virginia. Dennis Rodman. Dennis Rodman. Uh, pretty good for him to be able to come out, come out in place and, um, taking out Jaden Bullock for seventh. That's a good win.
01:10:07
Speaker
Good for them. Okay. Anything else here? 97. Let's see it. Let's see it. 97. Dude, oh my gosh. 97 Jacob Cardenas ran through the field. This was a... The bracket fell apart kind of too. A little bit for sure, but I mean, dude. All right. let all What's going on here? what what do we What's happening here with Jacob Cardenas?
01:10:33
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Uh, we'll talk, we'll talk about it. Cardenas takes first. He takes out Evan Bates in the finals. Luke Serber took third. Joey Novak took fourth. Andy Smith is, uh, Andy Smith and Trey Munoz double forfeited in fifth and sixth. Wyatt Volcker at seventh and Christian Carroll all the way down to eighth. So is Andy Smith, the guy then, is it not going to be sunny? I don't think it's going to be Sasso. This is like Andy, Andy's beth best, best, uh, like year so far. Mm-hmm.
01:10:59
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Yeah, but Sasso had a pretty good start to the season too. Yeah, I don't think it's determined yet. We'll see. We'll see what happens as as we go forward. um Yeah, Suss was undefeated. he's As a matter of fact, he's pinned. One of them needs to come down and relieve TJ Stewart of his duties because TJ is wrestling. and Did he wrestle? i it sat Yeah, he went 0-2. It saddens me. Damn. Yeah, he did. He went 0-2. And it saddens me because I drafted him on my fantasy team last last in CAA's and he did really well for me. And I was hoping, you know, to maybe get him back on my team this year, but not now. Not after this. Dude.
01:11:39
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He lost to Ulin Hop of UTV, of Utah Valley. And then he lost to, he got major 10 to zero by Dashlee Lamer. Dash, Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. Dashlee. The Incredibles. Dashlee. Dash Yeah, bro. You never seen The Incredibles. Oh, yeah. I never thought about that. Dash Lamer. There you go. I didn't think about that. Honestly, that's Dash's full name is Dash. Oh, yeah. Because now I'm imagining mom. Dash. Oh, what were their last names? Just like that, too. What were their last names? Was it the Incredibles? Was it incredible? Yeah, it was incredible. I didn't seem very. It was, what was it? It was Bob.
01:12:34
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01:12:52
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little bit of a ventreska start to his sophomore year yeah and you know what if if it is if it is the case where he needs to take the year off and be red shirted or whatever. Get it done. Get it done now. Well, it's too late now. Yeah. Okay. Uh, uh, back to, no, you well you can medically red shirt. We can, we can cave his kneecap in. Don't they have that? Okay. Sure dude, isn't he there still or no?
01:13:19
Speaker
Sam Fisher graduated. I thought he was, I thought he got hurt. And then you, I thought maybe you took her medical or something. Maybe not. Maybe. had sure Sam Fisher is at 184. Yeah. He's a senior five and three so far this year. He has losses to not much better. Uh, Colin Fegley, James Brown and Dylan Newsome. I don't know any of these kids. Nope. Bring Sonny, bring Sonny or Andy down to 84. Dude. I don't think you can do that though. Cause they're both big. They're both huge halls.
01:13:49
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Yeah, like, I don't think that's going to work. I think you're just out of luck.
01:13:56
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Okay. Back up to one. Anyway, Jacob. aanus So he, uh, gets tech fall in the first minute and a half tech fall in four minutes. And then, so he's got Christian Carroll in the quarters and it's like, okay, here's your, here's your first test. ah Text him in two minutes, two and a half minutes.
01:14:15
Speaker
Broke him. mate Broke. Majors Andy major's andy Smith, 12-0, and then pins Evan Bates in the finals in a crossroads tilt. In a tilt. So he's mastered the tilt fully. so he's He's grandmaster. you Have you seen his arms? That's all he hit. That's literally all he he hit. Yeah. ah So he got diverse with his leg attacks. He he had an ankle pick on Christian Carroll. I've never seen him hit an ankle pick ever. I've only ever seen the blast double.
01:14:41
Speaker
um But if if you've seen his arms, I don't know how anybody would ever get their wrist back once he grabs it. I mean, he's scary. He's scary looking, and he must be scary. He is scary looking. He is very well. Well, let's see him bump up and wrestle Wyatt Hendrickson. Give me that Super 32 rematch that I've always wanted. Seriously, Super 32? Yes. Cardenas got quite the lead, and then Hendrickson started chipping away and coming back. He almost beat him. get there Yeah.
01:15:11
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um Uh, some people to think about it this way. Zach Glazier couldn't, couldn't get the job done. Couldn't move from Iowa to SDSU has not been great for Glazier. Like it has been for Drake roads. No, he doesn't seem to be doing it very well either. Or see Rick. Yes. See Rick. Who did he lose to on the backside? I was surprised. Um,
01:15:39
Speaker
Can't kick that gambling addiction, I don't think. No, he he medically forfeited. Weak, weak, man. Guys are the worst. Just brutal. God, who did he... Yes, I thought they pinned him on the front side, then he medically forfeited after that. He said, I'm in Vegas. I'm gonna go spend my time where I want to. See, he joined right in with us. He judged us, Reese, and then he joined right in with us. Well, when it's there,
01:16:09
Speaker
All right. Nick's demo. Also Nick's demo also didn't place. I'm sorry. I'm just looking at these backside results. And then, yeah, we had our medical forfeits server stomach. Who did he hit me by in the blood around blood around was to Luke server. Yeah. Somebody lost to like someone not that good on the front side. Or at least not. It was to Joey Novak who took a took fourth.
01:16:37
Speaker
Yeah, Joey's tough. So he lost to the guys who took third and fourth. I mean, do we think Nick Stem is is that good? No, he's not that good. But he could play. He's around a 12 guy.
01:16:48
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He could sneak in. I don't think so. 97? 97? 97? He could sneak into the blood route at 97. I would not lump him in with the rest of the 97 contenders, with the rest of the 20 other 97 guys. We've seen worse guys sneak in there. I'm just saying. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But 9 through 12 at 197 is Trey Munoz, Luke Geog, Andy Smith, and Luke Server.
01:17:17
Speaker
Can he? I don't think he could beat a guy like Luke Gio. Maybe, but then also, okay, so the rest, after that, it's Zach Bronigold, John Posnanski, Max Stout, Wyatt Volker, Joey Novak, Luke Stout, Levi Hopkins, Christian Carroll, and then Nick Stemit. That's a lot to overcome for a guy like Nick Stemit. You just never know what happens. You could do happens he could do it. you and And that's the thing is, you never know what happens.
01:17:39
Speaker
ah I would make a I would place a wager with either one of you right now that next time it is not AA. I'm not calling it. I'm not calling it. OK, I'm with you. and say lying I was saying that he would sneak into the right at 12. I'm telling you right now. I know that there's certain guys that I'm like, oh, they'll qualify. I'm like, oh, they'll qualify. Go one and two, probably go into. But like, stem is a guy I'm like, I could see him probably doing that or I could see him, you know, maybe even sneaking into the.
01:18:07
Speaker
I've never seen, I don't know, but there's even no indication that he can do that. Well, he just, he just likes, he's just really funny. ands That's, that's his, it's happened in the past. He just is just kind of funny. He says funny stuff. Anyways, heavy weight. Let's get it. Yeah, let's get up to heavy weight.
01:18:27
Speaker
Uh, all right. Wyatt Hendrickson, uh, wins the wins this weight, takes out Isaac Trumbull in the finals. Colton Schultz at third, Jimmy Mullen fourth, David Maurer at fifth, Nick Feldman sixth, Lance Runyon seventh, and Harvey Andrews eighth. That's Brett Maurer. Uh, David in parentheses, Brett Maurer. Brett Maurer, NJCA champ for Iowa Western and 197. It's tough. The place yeah took, uh, took fifth. Um,
01:18:54
Speaker
Why Henderson, I think he pinned and tech his way through this bracket. Yes. Not really. Yes. And including and not including Nick Feldman. Uh, he, who had an injury default because of something, man, you, you watch him and it really does. It really gives you hope. It gives me hope. It gives me real hope. but now I'll always have hope. I'll have faith. I'll believe.
01:19:21
Speaker
I think he looks better. I think he looks... Is there more to say? That sentence rhyme? There is. You have more to say. I can tell. I just don't know if it's going to happen, man. I want it to happen so bad. I want it to happen so bad.
01:19:35
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ah But the man is so good. Yeah. Yeah. i think he's I think he's the number two guy right now. Bare minimum. I think he looks like he will be... gay ah Not Gable. Perk.
01:19:50
Speaker
Kirk, Greg Kirkley, I think he will beat him. Could he beat Gable? I have no idea. I don't know what that's going to look like. He'd have to catch him sleepy on his back. Pin him. Dude, if he pins Gable Stevenson, that's is literally the only way he's going to be able to do it. We as a state, we have to throw a parade. I don't you do it in Newton, Kansas. I'm not even opposed to, you know, maybe doing some extracurriculars to get him to where he needs to be.
01:20:19
Speaker
So are you talking Ouija board, Rhys? Yeah, Ouija board. Or science. You could use science, too. Well, then it's not a legitimate result, Rhys. All right, Rhys. You go science. I'll go Ouija board, OK? All right. We'll hit them on all fronts. yeah we'll get Yeah, we'll get it one way or the other. Yeah. So yeah, Wyatt Henderson looks crazy, crazy, crazy good. The ah time in the Oklahoma State Room with the new coaching staff doing magical, wonderful things for him.
Coaching Insights and Tournament Reflections
01:20:50
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Isaac Trumbull, also looking... ah What? da Okay. Isaac Trumbull, also looking really good. He majored Colton Schultz nine to zero. Tech fault Lance Runyon. Pretty good. He wanted that. He wanted that Colton Schultz result back so bad. He got it. He said, I gotta get my get back and he got it for sure.
01:21:15
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um Jimmy, Jimmy Mullen is a guy that people need to pay attention to moving forward. He, he's gonna be pretty good. Um, Harley Andrews, I didn't really think much of him. I was like, why is he the 12 seat? But goes out in places, takes out, takes out Trevor Tinker. This was a fun match. 16 to 13. Um, check Trevor Tinker's a Cal, Cal Poly kid. He, uh, he's someone who is improving as well. So.
01:21:45
Speaker
Cal Poly on the rise. Coach Cerritos. Shout out. Yes. And is Chewy a coach there? Chionuma? Is he still there? I don't know. I don't know. I think he is. I just know Cerritos is the head coach. Right. Cal Poly athletics wrestling roster.
01:22:10
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Load for me, please.
01:22:13
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um Yes, he is the associate head coach. With John Cerritos, Ethan Rotundo, and ah one Evan Wick. Okay.
01:22:29
Speaker
Is that all we have for this tournament? so I have time for all together. Okay, so you don't wanna, but give me your surprise of the tournament.
01:22:45
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Surprise of the tournament. I don't know, I guess. Okie state putting all 10 guys in the top five, that was a surprise for me.
01:23:00
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OK, I mean, isn't it is in the top and the top five? Yeah, yeah, I'd say so at a tournament like this. Has that ever been done before? I don't know. They didn't break the scoring record. I know that much they didn't.
01:23:15
Speaker
What's the, who has the scoring record? Yeah. I don't know. Whoa. But it's not them. That's scary. Wow. Okay. Uh, Reese, what is your surprise of the tournament? Whether at a thing, a wrestler, a match, a result? I'm never surprised. Never ever. Shut your mouth and you give me something.
01:23:37
Speaker
I don't know. I guess Lorenzo lorenzo Norman making the finals. I told Ryan he was a stupid idiot for making that making that pick. Did you really tell me that? No, maybe. Oh, OK. I think you did. I I could have. I think you judged me hard for the Lorenzo Norman pick. Stupid. Why would he ever take second place?
01:24:05
Speaker
I almost won the damn thing. Yeah, that that was okay. That was that actually was really surprising how he went four to three with Dean and didn't get give up a takedown. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, I guess most of the match was not most of it, I guess probably. I don't know. I am. I'm caught. I'm caught between ah Josh Coderhands.
01:24:32
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What?
01:24:35
Speaker
I'm stuck between Josh Coderhant and Ryder Downey. I think I want to say Ryder Downey, though, because he basically, for all intents and purposes, he he won. um Dude, you are just just big time. You're just like... Ryder Downey was the fourth seed at NCAA last year, and it's a surprise to you that he made the finals of this tournament. Okay, I'll just go with Josh Coderhant then. I'm sorry.
01:24:59
Speaker
I'm just say it anyway. It's a surprise to me that that's a surprise to you. Josh Coderman. I mean, didn't he All-American last year? No, he's around a 12. No, the Army guy. It's Jesse Mendez. The Army guy that All-American last year was at 74. Coderhands Navy. Oh, the Navy guy that All-American was David Key. Pazook was an Army All-American last year. Pazook was the Army.
01:25:29
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who He did not on did he really all-american David key I'm pretty sure it was him Navy Army and Air Force all three had an all-american last year, right? Yep. Yep. Let me pull the breath. Yes. I'm pretty sure it was David key for I guess that would make maybe Give me a moment He's pretty much the only one I can think of on that team. I sure that would have got key took eighth place at 184.
01:25:58
Speaker
and Ben Pezuk took eighth at 174 even though he should have been in the top six. No. Yes. White Henderson took third. You just want challenging results, dude. Look at Reese. I'm not mad. I'm a rich man. He's a paid out man. take your Take your result out of it, Reese, and then how do you feel?
01:26:22
Speaker
Take my result, what do you mean take my result out of it? Take your bias out of the result. Take the fantasy wrestling out of it. um Yeah, I don't know. i can't I can't take my bias out, I guess. I can't do it. It was a weird, weird situation. When has that ever happened? It really was. Never. It was fucked up as well. It was pretty messed up, actually. I mean, really, like, OK, he was on his back by the time his foot hit the chair. So who cares? Yeah, he was pinned.
01:26:54
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it's kind of okay awesome though fucking lie
01:26:59
Speaker
it was deucly as if ga li cells Yeah, did you just look over at Sammy and just say this is fate Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did and I was like, yeah, well If it's fate, it's fate when he's just sitting there laughing at a huge fit after that. I bet he did and was so mad He went for Andrew Milsap
01:27:23
Speaker
Grab your hair and coughed on you. Yeah. Yeah. And then he was walking back to the car and I ah jumped on his back and choked him out. Yep. That's right. Yep.
Episode Wrap-up and Goodbyes
01:27:36
Speaker
I'm glad we're reliving this. OK. Good guy. Yeah, screw you, race. That's a good guy. Final hold. You were a terrible person to have in my corner during that. Oh, what about Zach and Tanner? They didn't do anything either.
01:27:49
Speaker
Yeah, they're but they're not blood. They're not blood. They didn't do anything afterwards either. At least I, when not I was in shock for one, I was completely and totally shocked at what I was seeing. And then when you went, when you dropped, I was like, I freaked out on Andrew. I was like, what, what did you, I, I screamed at him. I was like, are you out of your fucking mind, dude?
01:28:13
Speaker
I mean, I should have kicked him in the fucking face is what he should have done. Yeah, he's kind of scary. He especially he was especially scary that day. No, you're right. He was losing his mind. Yeah, I remember I was there for the coughing incident in the stands. I was not there for the chokeout, but yeah, I'm glad we were we are reliving this. This is great. that Take it out of the podcast. I don't even want it in there. It's fine. All right.
01:28:40
Speaker
Alright guys, I have to go. I'll just say that. Okay. Good guy. Alright. Hope everybody enjoyed the episode.