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Cheeze Talk S1 Episode 3 Cheeze n Starz
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Talking everything Packers and Cowboys with @cowboy_regg. Believe ot or not, he has mad respect for the Packers. Always a good time with Regg. Thanks again!
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Introduction and Giveaway Announcement
00:00:42
Speaker
All right, hello and welcome to cheese talk podcast. I am your host Brian and in this show I'll be talking Packers and Cowboys with Cowboys reg cowboy, red cowboy, red. And before I get to my guests, I'd like to give you a huge shout out to the Ohana Packers edition for giving me the chance to express my opinions.
00:01:04
Speaker
Special giveaway. Once their Twitter account hits 523 followers, we are giving away a Jair Alexander autographed 8x10 picture.
Cowboys Legends and Memories
00:01:15
Speaker
Alright, you ready for the first question? Alright, bring it on. Do you still own a VCR? No, because we got YouTube now. We got YouTube. HD?
00:01:29
Speaker
Yeah, we go. Hey, I don't know the difference anyways. I'm old. So I got to wear glasses anyway. So yeah. Um, who is your favorite cowboy of all time? Um, growing up in the seventies and eighties, uh, Roger Staubach was my hero, my childhood hero. Um, I think, you know, I could do a whole episode on him, his accomplishments from the military through
00:01:56
Speaker
The NFL, he was my guy. Tony Dorsett's a close second. The teams of the 90s were outstanding, but you always go back to when you were a kid. And when I was a kid, it was Stawback, Dorsett. Those guys, Harvey Martin, Randy White, those are my childhood heroes. So those are some of my favorites, and I would say Stawback is number one in my book.
00:02:18
Speaker
OK, yeah, it's a good choice. I remember back when I was a kid and Cowboys, it was Michael Ervin and Troy Aikman and Elvin Harper and we got what we on Latin. Nate, you know, we got I mean, there it is. You see in the background. Yeah, maneuver it there. I got a autographed Troy Aikman jersey on the wall. Awesome. Yeah, love those guys too.
Packers vs. Bears: A Game to Remember
00:02:40
Speaker
Love them. And you know, but it's always going back to when we were kids. And when I was a kid, it was Stawback.
00:02:46
Speaker
Yeah. Well, when I was, I was born in 82. So like when I was 10, 11, 12, it was this one, you know, got Brett fire and, and then Reggie white and Craig Newsom, Doug Evans, Leora Butler, Robert Brooks, you know, all those guys. Those are, those are some great teams. Yeah. If they wouldn't have had to get through Dallas and the NFC, I think there was a couple.
00:03:12
Speaker
NFC championships there between Dallas and San Fran. That was, that was a tough road for Packers as great as they were. They just to get out of there with one championships, a shame because that team was great. I'm a big Brett fire fan. Love that team. Yeah. You know, I, I wouldn't give them a second one at our expense, but I think that they deserve a second Superbowl, but it just didn't work out. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you think of your childhood and, and
00:03:41
Speaker
that kind of, that's what got me in the football is like the five and the Reggie white and all that. So it was just fun to kind of correlate that back to your childhood and bring up memories, you know? Yeah, I got to see them live in Chicago. I was living in the Chicago area and it gave me various Packers tickets and it was Jim Harbaugh versus Brett Favre.
00:04:00
Speaker
Yeah, I should have did some research before the show. And I believe there was three pick sixes in that game between the two quarterbacks. It was it was a pick six party. Let me guess, two were bright fire. I I think it was. I think you're right. And I think that the Packers won twenty one fourteen and the Bears fourteen points were all on were both on pick sixes, if I remember correctly.
00:04:28
Speaker
That's crazy. That would have probably been 93, 94, somewhere around there, 95 maybe. Yeah. Yeah, we have to check that out. But that was kind of a cool game. I got to see a young Brett Favre slinging it. And he was slinging it to the wrong team. But he was still slinging it. I still left there a fan. I like Brett. And my wife's family are all Packers fans. So I've been watching the Packers play for a long time. Doesn't mean I was cheering for him, but I was watching.
Cowboys Playoff Woes: Dak Prescott's Performance
00:04:54
Speaker
That brings me to my next question, Reg.
00:04:58
Speaker
Last year, the Cowboys. This the way they played all year. It was like I thought they were going to get thumped in the playoffs. Like what are your thoughts on how the Packers approached that game and just came in and just pretty much. By the midway through the second quarter, that game was over with like the game was over when when Dak threw the pick six and it made it 20 to nothing. I think you all missed the extra point. Yeah, that that ended the game. I mean,
00:05:28
Speaker
You know, we we can go into that pretty deep with with Dak. But at that point when you're down 14 nothing, I think you're you're you start going into panic mode and you know this is a playoff. This is do or die and you start throwing the ball where you shouldn't be throwing it and it just escalated from there. But. Yeah, I mean I will. I'll tell you what it was not. Shocking it was surprising, but not shocking because.
00:05:57
Speaker
We've seen this movie before. It's a rerun of this current team's playoff performances, not 100%. I know Dak is 2 and 5 in the playoffs, which is completely unacceptable. But I think sometimes we forget that he has got it done a couple of times, which makes it more puzzling if you've got over the hump a couple of times and why are you so nervous coming in or excited or whatever happens
00:06:27
Speaker
for him to, to overthrow or, you know, to, to throw the ball too quickly and not go through his reads, whatever's going on. It's definitely happening in the playoffs. It's not, you know, it's like, uh, like a role reversal, like Samuel, Mike McCarthy, you
The Significance of Dallas' Run Game
00:06:44
Speaker
know, I mean, he got us one championship. Cool. As it seems like since he just
00:06:51
Speaker
something about, there's just, I don't know if it's like his play calling or yeah. Like you said, they came out so fast in that game. The script that you had, you had to throw out the window, like immediately. Then it's like, you're trying to, you're trying to figure out the rest of the game and what you're going to do. And if it's not working, then you just ultra panic mode, you know? Yeah. And you know, you, you look at the history of the playoffs and the super bowl and you got to have a run game and
00:07:20
Speaker
Dallas didn't have a run game. It's Dak. I mean, he, he's second in MVP voting this year because they're throwing the ball all the time. They're, they're throwing the ball over the field and, you know, CDs got big numbers and the tight end Jake Ferguson actually had three touchdowns against the Packers. He was the one, not the, not the only guy to show up, but he was one guy that really showed up. So we're excited about his future, but yeah, you got to be able to run the ball. The Packers could run the ball.
00:07:48
Speaker
And Dallas could not. And that's part of the reason why Tony Pollard is in Tennessee. They lost complete faith in Pollard throughout the season. And the playoffs just put that explanation point on it that they're not gonna pay him. They don't trust him anymore, not to blame anything on Pollard. I'm a fan and he came back from a broken ankle, I believe.
00:08:12
Speaker
In the playoffs last year, he broke his ankle against San Fran and he was on the field week one, which is an amazing story. But he just didn't have, you know, I think it was a 4.1 yards per carry. He finished a season with that's just not good enough in today's NFL. We gotta we gotta push out up near five. Yeah.
00:08:33
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Do you think Dak is
Is Dak Prescott the Future of the Cowboys?
00:08:34
Speaker
the answer? I mean, he's been there for some time now, but you think down the road, do you think they'll be getting a quarterback in the draft or? No, I think that. He's not. Probably the long term answer if he gets extended here before the season starts, I wouldn't be shocked. It would be a salary cap decision. I might be one of the few.
00:09:00
Speaker
Cowboys fans that will tell you, I believe the organization has lost faith in them. I believe that's why you're not seeing a long-term deal. That's why they brought in Trey Lance. I mean, they gave up a fourth round draft pick for Trey Lance. Yeah. What are they doing with Trey Lance? He just sitting there and he's watching and he's learning. And, you know, I think you might see him on the field in the next couple of years. This year is a do or die year for Dak. I think it's all setting up to,
00:09:27
Speaker
You know, this is your last year that you're locked in on your contract. Dallas can release them after this year. They'll pay a little bit of a cap hit, but we're not talking about a Russell Wilson cap hit. I think I've been staying for a while that
00:09:47
Speaker
Justin Fields by mid-season will be the starting quarterback in Pittsburgh. 100% believe you. The Bears organization has been a dumpster of fire for years and they drafted an awesome quarterback from college, had an arm, he had receivers, he could have had one of the best receivers in a while coming in and Marvin Harrison Jr., DJ Moore,
00:10:12
Speaker
They had a good, what did Cole commit? Tight end. Yeah, he's great. And they got rid of them to go with somebody, presumably Caleb Williams that they haven't even seen play at the pro level yet. Yeah. I mean, I just fire the coaches. Don't get rid of the players. Yeah. You know, I mentioned to you earlier that, you know, I was in the Chicagoland area, Northern Indiana to be exact, but
00:10:39
Speaker
within 40 miles of Chicago for 20 plus years. Yeah. So, you know, the Bears games were on and the Bears talk shows were on the radio and, you know, got to hear a lot about the Bears. And one thing I'll tell you that they haven't had a quarterback. They, you know, Jay Cutler is probably the closest thing they've had to a franchise quarterback. You want to count Jim McMahon in 85, you can, but that team was winning. I think it probably wins the Super Bowl with me at center behind center. I mean, they were that good. So,
00:11:08
Speaker
Yeah, they need a franchise quarterback, and I guess they're going to put all their eggs in one basket. They think Caleb Williams is the answer. I have my feelings about that. The jury's still out for me. I'm not going to say Caleb Williams is going to be a bust. I'm not going to be that guy with a bold prediction, but I wouldn't have went that direction. I would have kept the quarterback in fields. I would have kept him, and I would have drafted Harrison at receiver and roll them out there.
00:11:36
Speaker
But they're going to start over, which I think is good news for you. Well, do you think a move like that shakes up the locker room? DJ Moore was pumped to come play with him. Yeah. He had a decent year last year, and all of a sudden they're getting rid of the guy who's throwing him the ball, which is making him money. I don't understand it. I didn't think that, I mean, you probably know firsthand, but
00:12:00
Speaker
you know, the Packers make the Bears look bad, but I didn't think Justin Fields was a poor quarterback. Oh, I hate to point against him just because I knew what he was like in college. He's dangerous. He could beat you in the legs. He can beat you in the arm. And he's big. That team has not been good for a long time. So for them to just dump their pick that, you know, they didn't even renew it. Right. He was still on his rookie contract, I think. So right. That was puzzling to me. But I understand what they're doing.
00:12:28
Speaker
They believe Kayla Williams is a one in a million and they're going to, you know, that's going to be their Peyton Manning. That's going to be their Tom Brady. And they're going to put all their eggs in that basket and roll them out there and see what happens. I get it. They're rolling the dice, but I don't have a good feeling for it personally for them. Right. I don't, I don't think it's going to end well, but you know, I've been wrong before. We'll see what happens. It's funny. You mentioned Jay Cutler. I'm waiting for the day where the Packers retire. Who's not burning the ring of honor.
00:12:58
Speaker
for all the, for all the punch challenge you threw us. Yeah. Oh, smoking J. He wasn't going to move out of that pocket. So if you're about to hit him, he's going to throw it up in the air, you know, Charles Woodson inside a pass. It's the same old J. He's going to throw us a ball regardless. I remember that NFC championship green Bay. I believe it was green Bay in Chicago where he didn't come out of the, he didn't come out in play in the second half. They went, he went to the locker room and he came back to, oh, he's,
00:13:28
Speaker
He's hurt. And he still had his uniform on. He's still walking around. And I'm like, man, this NFC Championship, Jay, you got to get out there. When Tony Romo had that career ending injury, basically, he came back, but his job wasn't there. They had to hide his helmet. They took his helmet. He couldn't find it. He's going to go back in the game. I never understood that about Cutler. And not that I was a big Cutler fan,
00:13:56
Speaker
that kind of was like, well, I'm done with him now because you got to come out. You got to play, man. I'm old school. You got to play. If you can walk, you can play. If it's an NFC championship. Now, if it's week one or week three or something, yeah, get him out of there and rehab him. But how many shots do you have to get to the Super Bowl? I mean, that's that was their shot right there with Jay Cutler. That was it. Yeah, that was crazy. Mike McCarthy or Barry Switzer?
00:14:24
Speaker
which
Barry Switzer's Super Bowl Legacy
00:14:25
Speaker
one do you want? I mean McCarthy seems to be familiar with with Green Bay so you can have him. Oh you meant who do I prefer? Oh yeah well yeah I mean Barry Switzer I never hated the guy because he was thrown into a he's just thrown in a bad situation it's like you know Michael Jordan retires and then you know you're the next point guard it's like you can never live up to that you can never live up to what
00:14:53
Speaker
Jimmie Johnson and Tom Landry did. Barry got one, but I would contend that Troy Aikman coached that team that they won that third Super Bowl with in the 90s. That was Troy Aikman coaching because Barry had not, he never had to locker room. He, you know, he came in, I think he was starstruck. I think he came in and, you know, here are these guys, two times Super Bowl champions and I'm going to coach them. I think,
00:15:18
Speaker
He was probably asking him for autographs more than coaching him. So yeah, he's a bad situation for him. It was the wrong man for the job. But having said all that, they did win a Super Bowl with him, you know? So he didn't screw it up that bad. If he would have screwed it up too bad, they wouldn't want another one. Right. People forget that they didn't win a Super Bowl with Barry Switzer immediately. They lost the NFC Championship to San Fran various first year.
00:15:48
Speaker
And he came back the second year and got over the hump. Beat your Packers, I believe. Yeah. In the NFC championship. Because y'all upset the Niners. He upset the Niners with Steve Young. And then all of a sudden, Green Bay's coming into Dallas. And the rest was history. Barry Switzer got a ring. But it was all downhill after that. Without that talent surrounding him in their prime, Switzer was not the guy to get it done. Right. Packers questions now.
00:16:17
Speaker
Cool, Dad. Yeah, love it. Thoughts on Jordan Love. Oh, here's the thing, man. Jordan Love, he's a baller. I'm a fan. But Jordan Love going back to Trey Lance, that's what we will hope that Trey Lance can become. If you sit behind a veteran quarterback, take notes, run the offense in the preseason, come in in garbage time, maybe play when the guy's injured.
00:16:45
Speaker
And then you're handed the keys one day. And if you're able to do what Jordan Love did, you get the keys and you drive that car. Right. And I'm a fan. I like it. And it kind of, hey, I don't want to sound like people are going to think I'm crazy. I'm not going to sit here and say, Trey Lance is the answer. Trey Lance is the answer. But I think if you look at how they develop Jordan Love, as opposed to what the Bears are about to do, throwing their guy out, you know he's going to be on the field week one as
Packers' Quarterback Development: The Jordan Love Story
00:17:13
Speaker
a starter. I think that's a mistake.
00:17:15
Speaker
The Packers have done it twice. They did it with Aaron Rodgers, and now they did it with Jordan Love. Aaron Love, whatever. It's all good. Nothing but love. So let them develop and let them learn. There's so much that goes to being a quarterback that's not physical. It's reading the defense, knowing your receivers and how they make their cuts or run their routes. And hey, if you hold the clipboard for a couple of years,
00:17:43
Speaker
and play in the preseason. And like I said, come out there now and then and get the nerves out in garbage time. You might develop a quarterback that's going to be a winner. And that's what Jordan Love is. He's a winner. He proved it. And it's going to be interesting to see if he has that sophomore slump. Now, most of the time we refer to that sophomore slump. It's because they were a rookie and they had a good year. And then they kind of stop working as hard or that goes to their head and then they don't play as well.
00:18:12
Speaker
I would say Jordan probably not going to have a sophomore slump because he's not a, he wasn't a rookie. He was the fourth year, fifth year, fourth year. Yeah. Yeah. He's a veteran now, man. He's a veteran. Yeah. It's just crazy how green Bay has developed, you know, if Jordan turns all like Aaron 35 plus years, 40 years of hall of fame quarterbacks, like back to back to back, you know, it's great. And there was a, there was a, um,
00:18:41
Speaker
pattern there in the in the pattern is they had a good quarterback when they got there as a rookie, you know, good quarterback when you got there as a rookie and you learn from them, you know, and then poor bears, I mean, they don't have that. So, you know, I don't know what's going to happen over there with Williams, you know, that's, that's why I'm, I'm not excited, but I kind of look at what's happening in Dallas and think, Hmm, maybe Jerry brought Trey in for a reason, right? I mean,
00:19:09
Speaker
you don't trade away or your fourth round pick fourth round picks pretty valuable pick. Dak Prescott was drafted in the fourth round. So you got to think too, though, Mike McCarthy was in San Francisco when the Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers and he wanted to draft Aaron Rodgers and they drafted Alex Smith. Yeah. And then McCarthy became the head coach in Green Bay, but I'm pretty sure he was a quarterback's coach and he knows he sees it when he sees it. And if,
00:19:37
Speaker
I'm sure that has something new behind it too, you know. Yeah, and I think Mike believes in Dak. But I think he's probably just as shocked as everyone else when he saw the playoff performance. Right. But I think he's all in with Dak, but I don't think if this happens again or if it's even worse, if they don't make the playoffs at all. Well, at some point,
00:20:05
Speaker
You got a $60 million quarterback that you're getting six, seven, eight wins. I'm just saying like Aaron Rogers, his last year in green Bay, you know, eight, seven, eight wins.
00:20:17
Speaker
Then he comes out and says, he's played with a broken thumb all year long. We'll give, give Jordan Love a shot. Yeah. Well, now we know why he didn't want to. He didn't want to. Cause he might've lost his job. Like it could have been a Tony role, but at the point to where you're getting 60 million a year for mediocre results, of course. And they're not going to want you around. Yeah. It's just crazy. The quarter, the money, the quarterbacks are getting because each new contract that comes up goes a little bit higher.
Dak Prescott's Contract and Cowboys' Financial Strategy
00:20:44
Speaker
We're like,
00:20:45
Speaker
How is Daniel Jones getting $160 million two years ago? We're like, that's crazy. Now that's a cheap contract, $40 million a year. Oh, man, that's a discount. Yeah. So I don't even know what is a bad contract anymore when it comes to quarterbacks. It's like you open your checkbook, apparently, no matter what. It's crazy to think about, too.
00:21:08
Speaker
that, that money that he was getting was, was altering our accelerate cap. Like we couldn't, we couldn't go out and sign the people that, you know, for instance, Josh Jacobs this year, Xavier McKinney, because the quarterback that wasn't giving us the results at a $60 million quarterback should be getting you was getting you seven wins. Yeah. That's what's happening right now with, with Dallas. I mean, it's funny to watch the fans on social media.
00:21:36
Speaker
you know, continually post over and over again, how stupid Jerry Jones is because he didn't pick up this guy or that guy or this guy. Well, what are you going to, where are you going to pay him? You're almost at the maximum salary cap right now. And if you, you know, if you extend DAC and spread that money out, you can send those guys, but now you're committed to DAC. So I think what we're seeing now is, uh,
00:22:04
Speaker
the old last dance. This is it. And yeah, my, my co-host, uh, we have a podcast called sons of the star. Sure. And he's, he's actually my son. Um, so we have two generations of Cowboys fans that we kind of talk things through. And it's interesting to hear the younger generation talk about, you know, we need this, we need that, but the seller cap prohibits that. And if, if you want to create room on a salary cap, you have to extend people.
00:22:32
Speaker
And extending people doesn't make the contract cheap. It makes it more expensive in the last year. So you push all that money to the last year and all of a sudden the quarterback's plane is last year, like Dak is this year, and you're talking $50 million on your salary cap.
00:22:46
Speaker
where last year it was like 22 or something like that. It was minimal. But that's because all that contract's pushed to the end. So just people out there, you should sign this guy. You should sign that guy. You can do that. But now you're committing to guys that look at Russell Wilson, like we mentioned. They had to commit to him in Denver. And then when they found out he wasn't the guy, what do you do? They tried to trade him. Nobody wanted him. And then they just dumped him. And now they're eating all that money.
00:23:16
Speaker
Hey, if Jerry, if this ends up being a bad year and Dak's gone and we start fresh, Jerry's going to look pretty smart. People say he's an idiot, but he might end up looking smart if that happens. Now, if they do really well this year and go deeper in the playoffs, now Dak and his agent are going to be like, show me the money, Jerry. And now Jerry's going to look like an idiot because they're going to have to pay him even more because he got it done. So it's all a guessing game. It's all a gamble.
00:23:45
Speaker
If you look at it that way and you sometimes you just need a little luck and we haven't had that luck. I mean, I don't want to say it's luck, but you guys got a little bit of luck over there. Like you said, you keep getting franchise quarterbacks that just kind of fall in your lap when one leaves the other one's already there. And the media made a big deal about Aaron Rodgers not getting a first strong court or a wide receiver and draft year after year after year. Look what Jordan loved it last year with.
00:24:12
Speaker
you know, second, third, fourth, fifth round receivers. I mean, it's, it's crazy. Some of the stuff that goes on in social media. Yeah, exactly. And we, you know, those GMs, I would assume they don't even read it. And, you know, we got people in our fan base talking about, we're going to boycott the Cowboys. What are you going to boycott?
00:24:34
Speaker
You're not going to go to the game. You probably weren't going to the game anyways. You're not going to the game. Somebody else is. That stadium is going to be full. If they play Green Bay in Dallas and the Cowboys fans want a boycott, well, then the whole stadium will be filled with Packers fans. They're going to sell out. Everybody wants to go to Jerry World. So there's no boycott. I mean, you could stop watching all you want, but it's not going to stop the machine.
00:25:02
Speaker
What, what are we 8.9 billion or $10 billion franchise? I mean, a couple of guys not buying jerseys this year is not going to change that. Right. That's like 30 minutes of interest, you know, not even 30 seconds of interest in, in the account of the Cowboys, you know, it's not. Yeah, exactly. And then like I said, somebody else will be going to the game in your place. And that, that guy going to the game.
00:25:26
Speaker
who doesn't normally go to the game, all of a sudden he's probably buying more merchandise while he was there. So the boycott idea is silly. I don't know what, you know, again, it's not, it's all social media, but hey, that's us too, right? We're out there on social media. We give our opinions. Everybody has a right to their opinion. All right. I think it's crazy that Packers have more playoff wins in Jerry world than the Cowboys do. Yeah, that, that stadium has not brought us any good fortune. I mean,
00:25:56
Speaker
Nice stadium. They did beat Detroit in a playoff game there with with Romo. Dak got his playoff win at home against Seattle there. And then his second playoff win was in Tampa, which, you know, I don't believe he gets enough credit for.
NFL Kicker Challenges and Packers' Perspective
00:26:17
Speaker
but he went into Tampa and he retired Tom Brady on the road in a playoff game and he threw four touchdowns and no interceptions. Unfortunately, our field goal or place kicker decided he wasn't going to make any more extra points that year. He missed three or four extra points in that game. And then when we went into San Francisco the following week, he immediately missed the very first extra point and then they never kicked again. They going for it on every fourth down and I remember
00:26:43
Speaker
Yeah, we weren't going anywhere. I mean, you cannot, I mean, you talk about a position you cannot live without, and that's your place kicker. If you can't make a field goal at your point, you're not getting through the playoffs. So that was a bad situation, man. We're cursed, I guess. We're cursed. Well, Packer fans want to get rid of Anders Carlsen, our kicker. He's a rookie.
00:27:05
Speaker
Yeah, I went back. I've said this on other podcasts. I went back and did him and Crosby side by side, the rookie year. And he has a better make percentage and cry Crosby had his rookie year. And look at how good Crosby was for us. And his career in the green Bay, they're so quick. They want to give up on somebody. They brought in Greg Joseph to give competition to Carlson in training camp, probably hoping it's going to make them better.
00:27:31
Speaker
Yeah. But, and people that are just so quick to want to get rid of somebody and it's crazy, you know? Yeah. Kickers, they get, I know the only positions that you, you will lose your job on the field. Like you, you see kicker misses a kick at the end of the game and he gets cut and they don't even have anybody to replace them. They bring in guys on Monday morning to compete for the job. Imagine that if that was a case in quarterback or something. Hey, Dak, I'm sorry. You threw a couple of interceptions today. We're cutting you.
00:27:58
Speaker
And we're going to have an open tryout Monday. Come on out to the stadium. Let's see who could throw the ball. That's what they do with kickers. It's crazy. Yeah. They like the scapegoat for everything else going wrong. And if you look at each year, if you break down a stat to points scored, the kickers are at the top. They score more points than anybody. Mason Crosby is the leading scorer in Packer history. There you go. But he gets cut, right?
00:28:27
Speaker
It's like that would never happen. Tom Brady throws five interceptions. I got Tom had a bad day. He'll be all right next week. A guy misses five field goals. He'll never work in the NFL again. Oh, the guy that missed five field goals five years ago. No, we're not interested. Right. What, what do you think about the Josh Jacobs and Xavier McKinney pickups for green Bay?
Impact of Packers' New Acquisitions
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I don't know exactly what happened with the Aaron Jones deal was at financial or whatever, but
00:28:57
Speaker
To me, Jacobs, Jones, both outstanding backs. And I don't see you guys getting Jacobs. And then your running game goes up a level. I think you get Jacobs and you maintain a high level. You're already a high level with your running attack. So I think that was a good move. To me, it's just six and one and half dozen and the other, both good backs.
00:29:22
Speaker
You know, yeah, it's a okay. There you go. Three years. Jacob's is three years younger than Aaron Jones. Yeah. And McKinney's outstanding. I think, you know, I don't know your complete roster who's left and who's came in, but you know, from what I could tell it, it seems like you guys have made a 5% upgrade, maybe 10% upgrade overall.
00:29:44
Speaker
Right. Which puts you competing for the, you know, a Superbowl next year. You put you in the NFC championship, put you right there in the mix. So yeah, I mean, our defense, we got Kenny Clark, we got Jair, Eric Stokes, we'll be coming back a hundred percent healthy. McKinney at safety. You lost Devondri Campbell to the Niners. Well, he signed, you don't want to come back. So if I'd be drafting linebackers in the draft and
00:30:12
Speaker
defensive line. We got, you know, we're Sean Gary and Preston Smith. I mean, we have pretty solid defense. So hopefully, hopefully McKinney and he's got nine, nine picks 24 years old. Yeah. I don't know what the giants are even thinking why they didn't Daniel Jones, 160 million dollars.
00:30:32
Speaker
Yeah. And he's, and he's, you want to hear a great stat. Daniel Jones is Owen six against Dak Prescott. So I hope they extend Daniel Jones. Cause those are two by weeks we can use every year. Right. Yeah. It's the crazy business. I'm glad I'm not involved financially. I'd be pulling my hair out left and right. But you know, Daniel Jones might be a guy that they dump and he goes somewhere as a backup. And two years later, all of a sudden you see him on TV throwing three or four touchdowns and they're like,
00:31:03
Speaker
Daniel Jones is back. He probably just needs a change of scenery. I mean, it's not like the Giants are good in other areas. It's just Daniel Jones, like you said, the quarterback becomes a scapegoat, the kicker becomes a scapegoat. So let's blame Daniel Jones. But he is a turnover machine, though. He likes to fumble and throw picks. So that's an issue. If you talk to their fan base, they'll tell you the guy turns the ball over too much. It seems like every time he's
00:31:33
Speaker
hit from the blind side or tackle from behind, there goes the ball. Ball goes loose. It seems like it happens too much. Right. Yeah. I remember that one game I was watching, he tripped in the wide open field. Nobody was even around. I remember that play. He coughed that ball up, man. He coughed that ball up immediately. It was the old ghost. The ghost got him. Somebody, the ghost stuck his hand in there, and that ball went out. Yeah. Right. What are your thoughts on Lambeau Field?
Lambeau Field: A Fan's Pilgrimage
00:32:01
Speaker
Have you been to Lambeau?
00:32:02
Speaker
No, um, I want to go. Um, I don't want to go watch the Cowboys play there, but I'd like to go watch the Packers play. Um, I believe if I'm not mistaken, my Notre Dame fighting Irish, that's my college team is playing there this year or next year. They're going to be playing a game there. And my son and I have talked about coming up for that, you know, up to Lambo, getting a tour, checking it out. We got, I got a.
00:32:32
Speaker
Got a good friend that lives in Green Bay. I mean, he actually lives in in the city limits or whatever Green Bay. So I got a place I can stay or hang a guy can hang out with. So I'm going to get there. But no, it's it's one of those things that I kind of missed out on when I lived in the Midwest was getting up there. I've been I've been to Green Bay, but I have not been to the stadium. Well, I live 10 minutes from Lambeau Field, so.
00:32:57
Speaker
There we go. And you'll have to let me know when you come up. I did plan on bringing a Des Bryant jersey and burying it under that end zone where that play occurred. Or he didn't catch it? Yeah, break the curse. Break the curse. Yeah, right where he caught it. No, but in the end zone part, where he would have been on the next play.
00:33:23
Speaker
I was going to ask you that question, but I skipped over it. I was going back and forth on whether I should ask you if you still own a VCR or not because, you know, the championship tapes.
00:33:39
Speaker
When people say that, you know, you got to get a VCR to watch the Cowboys Super Bowls. I remind them, I'm 53 years old, which means I've been alive for all five Super Bowl wins. So, you know, you don't need it. It's, it's right here, Ben. It's right here. And now I've been alive for two of the Packers. So that's more than some people can say. So don't even have one. It's been 14 years since Green Bay won a Super Bowl, blah, blah, blah. You say, Hey man, it's right here. I saw.
00:34:07
Speaker
You can't take that away. You cannot take those memories away. I'm kind of a historian if you see some of my posts on Twitter. I like to go into the history of the game.
00:34:21
Speaker
to honor those players of the past and all that. So, you know, I don't think it's an insult if somebody says, oh, you know, they haven't won in 30 years. Yeah, but I saw it, so. Yeah, it did happen. It did happen. And I saw it, so I know it happened. So, I mean, if it's on,
00:34:42
Speaker
ESPN or NFL Network likes to play the Super Bowl week. They play all the Super Bowls. It's my favorite time of the year. You get all those Super Bowls from Super Bowl one on. I could just turn the TV on and watch it at any point, whoever, doesn't matter who's playing, have those memories. So yeah, it's awesome. I was going to ask you, I think you answered my question, Favre, Rodgers or Bart Starr?
Favorite Packers Quarterbacks
00:35:08
Speaker
Well, now you throw Bart Starr in because, you know,
00:35:12
Speaker
I prefer Farriv over Rogers, but my father-in-law, rest in peace, my wife's father was a huge Bart Starr fan. And he was born in 1920. He's been passed for a while. So he got to watch those years where Starr was, where he was a Starr, right? So it was funny. I used to, we watched Packers games together and Brett Farriv, whatever he did, whether it was good or bad, he'd say,
00:35:42
Speaker
Bart Starr, come on, Bart Starr. He always called Brett Favre Bart Starr. And I was like, man, that's a real easy slip up. If you were around to watch Bart Starr, I could see where you would slip up and call Brett Favre Bart Starr. He did it all the time. So in honor of Wayne, I'm going to go with Bart Starr as my favorite quarterback of all time, for Green Bay. For Green Bay, OK? For Green Bay, that's my favorite. But Favre is a close second.
00:36:11
Speaker
Which one of those three would you like to go hang out with at the bar? It would be Brett Favre. Yeah, there's stories that go around Green Bay about him and his playing days. I bet. There is one clip, Halloween, him, Frank Winters, and I can't think of who the other person, I think Don Beebe.
00:36:37
Speaker
showed up to Mike Holmgren's house trick-or-treating with like costumes on and they had no idea that it was. Oh I could see that. Those were yeah those are you know pre-social media days where you didn't have to worry about anybody with a cell phone camera catching you. Yeah but it was it was on video though. Oh really? It was on video yep that's the only reason why I knew about it is because they showed a clip on that it's it's out there somewhere you have to
00:37:06
Speaker
Look for it. But yeah, it's hilarious though. So you have a show in 20 minutes, huh? It's not my show. There's another podcast that, uh, right. That, that asked me to come on and it coincidentally is some, some Packers, some Packers guys, uh, football, fun football pod, I believe it was called and shots from the sideline. Yeah. And, uh, another,
00:37:32
Speaker
Uh, on the, on a panel, if you want to call it, there's another Cowboys fan that's going to be there. And I don't know what to expect. They may not be as friendly as you, but, uh, you know, I'm, I'm usually the oldest guy in the room. So I can usually, you know, uh, come back with some good, good history lessons for them saying, you know, well, this is actually what happened 20 years ago, if you want to talk about that. So, you know, I'm sure they'll be friendly. I've had a really good relationship with my.
00:37:58
Speaker
Packers colleagues and try to keep it professional and friendly. And, you know, it's the off season. It's the off season. We shouldn't be going at each other and talking trash too much because it's, we're all zero and zero right now. Not, not yet. At least. Yeah. We're all, we're all, oh no. Week one, man, what somebody's going to be wanting to know when they're going to be talking trash, you know, right? Okay. That's what it's all about. Yeah.
00:38:24
Speaker
Well, I was going to wrap it up here pretty soon, but I was going to ask if you had any questions for me before I came to the conclusion. Yeah, no, Brian, you know, you've been my friend on X on Twitter for a while. And, you know, you're one of the guys I call the goat. You're always helping. You're helping people grow and you're connecting people together. And I just want to tell you, keep doing what you're doing, brother. You're making a difference in people's lives when you do that. We all need.
00:38:54
Speaker
to network, you know, I'm big on mental health and that's a, that's a cause that, that really hits home for me. Sure. You know, keep doing what you're doing, man. I could feel the love just like Jordan love from you, man. Keep doing what you're doing.
Guest Social Media and Contributions
00:39:08
Speaker
Yeah. I love it. Keep doing on the podcast is great. And, uh, maybe, you know, after the draft, we can get together again. Sure. Yeah. We'll discuss the, uh, the picks and, uh, go from there. Where can people find you on social media?
00:39:22
Speaker
So, uh, on my main, my main source of information I put out is on Twitter or X it's a cowboy underscore reg and the reg is a double G. You got to have the double G. And our podcast is sons of star. Yeah. X it's, it's sons of the star, but the handle is sons of star pod, sons of star pod. And, um, I also write for we like sports. Um, I put out a.
00:39:52
Speaker
Somewhat of a weekly article in I'm the Notre Dame fighting Irish writer and the Gauss cowboy writer. So this morning, my last article came out this morning. Um, it's on the Cowboys ring of honor. There's 24 names, uh, in the ring around the stadium. And, uh, I did a little article on who those 24 guys are and why they're on that ring. So even if you're not a Cowboys fan, go check out that article is posted on my Twitter account.
00:40:20
Speaker
And, uh, you learn a little history. Yeah. I was actually at Brett Favre's Jersey retired or number retirement at Lambo. That was quite the thing was just jam packed full of people and all standing ovations. And it was pretty, pretty moving event. Yeah. I knew both of us need to do a little research and it just kind of hit me while we were talking to Dak Prescott's number four and Brett Favre was number four. I wonder if, uh,
00:40:47
Speaker
I wonder if Farv was Dak's hero. I know that Farv was Tony Romo's hero, coincidentally. He's a Wisconsin native. I think there might be a tie in there with Dak. If I can remember correctly, I'm pretty sure in how we talk about whatever. I'm pretty sure that was brought up at one time during the game. Yeah, because number four is not a real common. You see it a little more. Derek Carr, I think, wears it as well, but not a real common number for quarterback in history.
00:41:17
Speaker
Um, so when I think of number four, I always think of Brett far, but you know, maybe Dak, uh, paying a little tribute to far, but when we go off the air, we'll do a little research and I'll get back to you and we'll find out if that's true
Podcast Closing and Host Social Media
00:41:29
Speaker
or not. Sure. I want to thank you and you can find me at cheese talk podcast and YouTube, uh, cheese talk underscore pod on Twitter. Um, Reggie, thank you. You got it, brother. Nice talking to you. Yeah. We'll see you around again.
00:41:47
Speaker
All right, sounds good. Yeah, take care. Yeah, bye.