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Packers Victory Breakdown: Analyzing the Win Over the Lions
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In this episode, we're breaking down all the action from the Green Bay Packers' impressive victory over their rivals, the Detroit Lions, with a final score of 27 - 13. Join us as we analyze key plays, standout performances, and what this win means for the Packers' season as we delve into the exciting world of NFL football.
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Celebrating the Packers' Victory
00:00:00
Speaker
Aloha and welcome in to week one recap of the Ohana Packers Edition podcast. The podcast where Iowa Joe and I are celebrating the Packers going 1-0 over the division rival Detroit Lions. And Joe, that went about as well as I think it could have in terms of what you know what we talked about pregame in terms of our hopes and expectations. And let's just jump in from there. How are you feeling about that one?
00:00:28
Speaker
It was... It went better than I was feeling it was going to go. i figured it was going to be a a full out slugfest and the Packers just made it look like it was easier than easy could be. So i there are some things that need to be cleaned up. There are some things that need to be worked on.
00:00:51
Speaker
by All in all, it for a week one game, for the first game the season, for however you want to put it, I think it went better than what you could expect out of it.
Concerns and Positives for the Packers
00:01:03
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, like the most negative things you can say are – there's a couple injuries that we're a little concerned about coming out of this game, you know, especially given the short turnaround to week two.
00:01:14
Speaker
And I know we'll get into it when we get into our segments, but Love did have a CTE sequence. But other than that, like, I don't want to say you're picking k nits about this one, but the good heavily outweighed the bad from this game in in my estimation. And I know that's what you're kind of alluding to as well. But before we spill the beans on everything, Let's just dive in. you want to do a game recap or do you want to just go into our three segments?
00:01:42
Speaker
I've forgotten how to do this show already. We'll just do a quick game recap. And there go we go.
00:01:51
Speaker
So, yeah. So the Packers jump on the Lions early. I mean, that's the that's the best way that we can say it. Take the ball on their first drive.
00:02:00
Speaker
Yeah. convert a bunch of third downs, you know, something that they struggled to do last season. And honestly, for me, the most important thing they did is they got into the red zone and they scored a touchdown, you know, like last year's game against the Lions, last year's game, you know, last year's game against the Lions. You're,
00:02:21
Speaker
going, you know, you're trying to match their first touchdown, go into the red zone, get stalled for a field goal, against the Vikings in the Lambeau game last year, same situation, go down, miss the field goal. So,
00:02:33
Speaker
it's good to see them convert opportunities. You know, we had the whole gold zone in 2020, the red zone. I feel it. Yeah. I'd have to look up the stats. I haven't yet, but it feels like it's been a struggle under the love, you know, with love at the quarterback. Yeah. It feels like they've left a lot of opportunities on,
00:02:52
Speaker
They've just blown a lot of opportunities in that regard.
Offensive Highlights and Love's Performance
00:02:55
Speaker
So it was really good to see the team take advantage of this first drive, set the tone, and then defense comes out, forces a three and out, and the offense goes right back down the field and scores another field goal.
00:03:09
Speaker
And i do think that, you know, obviously it's important to get up to a two score lead. But I think even more importantly than that is Detroit goes, takes 16 plays, nine and a half minutes to score field goal to cut it to 10-3.
00:03:23
Speaker
And what does Green Bay do? Comes right back and responds to play touchdown drive, which Like we said, a lot of how we're going to frame our reviews of this team to open this season are in reference to last year's team, 2023's team, because, you know, it's it's the progression of a team under Jordan Love as its quarterback.
00:03:46
Speaker
Obviously, you know, we'll get into the Micah Parsons and the improved Halfley defense of it all. But just in terms of the offensive side of the ball, you've seen this team take the the step that Honestly, I think a lot of us hoped they would take last year in terms of love finished 2023 on a heater, you know, had the sour ending to the San Fran playoff game, but it felt like 2024 was going to be a launching pad kind of season. And then you go and get hurt on the, on the slop drop, as you call it down in Brazil.
00:04:14
Speaker
yeah. I don't want to say it derailed the season, but it really did get it off on the wrong foot. you know Pun totally intended there. and they were playing ke you know For all intents and purposes, they were playing catch-up from that point out. Yeah.
00:04:28
Speaker
like I said, that that's my initial takeaway is that it's just so good to see this team get out, establish itself, get on the board first, put up touchdowns in the red zone.
00:04:38
Speaker
know, they ended up going, I believe three for five in the red zone. and honestly the last one, it's kind of like, Oh, no, they did not get to the red zone on their last field goal drive. So, yeah, so they are three for four on red zone trips today, which is a really good start to the season. and Three for four touchdowns, four for four scoring, which is really good on both ends of that.
00:05:02
Speaker
And... it Yeah, I keep circling back to I liked how they responded in the first half. Second half, they got a little bit conservative.
00:05:12
Speaker
And even after the interception, it felt like LeFleur played it, you know, the percentages instead of going for a kill shot after the the Evan Williams interception.
00:05:22
Speaker
But i do think that he was kind of playing the long game a little bit. And overall, I really am happy with how this team came out and played today.
00:05:33
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's where my line is, and it'll get part of our segments, too, where it was more the play calling in the second half than it was anything that was mind-boggling.
00:05:47
Speaker
um um Overall, i was happy with how things went. happy with how, you know, Jordan outside of a couple of things with Jordan, I was happy with some of his decisions.
00:06:00
Speaker
His throws look great. His, oh I kind of mentioned this, that you would be happy with how his deep passes look because they were accurate and well thrown.
00:06:16
Speaker
I mean, he had one little little wobbler, but it was still accurate and where it needed to go. but Drops weren't a thing. Passes were on time.
00:06:28
Speaker
Line was holding up, was giving Jordan time to look over things.
Discipline and Efficiency on the Field
00:06:34
Speaker
There's not much you can really complain. I mean, there are some things, like you said, that you can nitpick. But other than that, it really it went well. Yeah, and you know, some people are gonna say like, oh like you said, you know, there's little things to be concerned about with some of the second half play calling, some sequencing, things like that. But when you really, you know, when you're going far,
00:06:58
Speaker
nuanced detail in terms of like you're getting into like oh my god why did lafleur do that sequence in the second half why did we you know go a little conservative it's better to be having that conversation than you know some of the concerns after like pre-season week one where it's like oh my god this team does not look like it's on the same page they're very undisciplined there's so many pre-snap penalties you know all that kind of stuff It was just really good to see them have a you know relatively clean game outside of a handful of plays, really, where you know things kind of got away from them at times. But otherwise, like four penalties for 40 yards.
00:07:38
Speaker
We'll get into one of them later on. But for week one game, not bad at all for the Packers. like it It always... You know, you want to be in the handful or less.
00:07:50
Speaker
And for the team to be four for 40 week one, that's a really good number to be at to start off the season. And you're efficient on offense. You know, you end the game at... 5.7 yards per play, 8.5 yards per pass. Rushing was not as efficient as you'd like it to be. But honestly, this was one of those games where you kind of had to throw to set up the run just because Detroit didn't want you to have the easy yardage from just you know being able to line it up and run the ball at them. So...
00:08:21
Speaker
I thought the encouraging part on that side of it was, you know, you end the game averaging 3.1, but you take that with the caveat of like, they were barely breaking two or just under two yards a carry in the first half.
00:08:34
Speaker
And then, up through Jacob's touchdown run, you start to see them break a few more runs. And then after that, the game was getting put on ice at that point. So, you know, you'd still like them to be, you know, at that four yards per carry efficiency.
00:08:49
Speaker
But when you take the context of how this game flow went, it wasn't the worst thing in terms of how it how it all worked out. So, yeah, overall, I'm i'm very pleased with how this how this game worked out.
00:09:03
Speaker
And, You know, there's a lot to build off of. That's the most important thing is nothing is unfixable that we saw today, but there were so many positives and all the things that we can critique, they're fixable. They're very fixable things for this team. So that's...
00:09:20
Speaker
You know, it's week one. There's 16 more games to go in the regular season, but it's a really good spot to be in as opposed to like, oh, God, like, how are they going to, you know, what are they going to do there? what are they What are they going to do about this and that? It's much better that they're, you know, they're... concerns are like, oh, like that wasn't as clean as it we'd like it to be. That was a little mu mushed up, you know, this and that. But none of the like, oh, God, they're screwed. If you know when this happens again, they are in big trouble kind of thing. So it was really good to see that sort of a feedback from the team.
00:09:56
Speaker
For sure. So why don't we go ahead and just jump in to the our stuff here. Mm, cheese. You want to lead it off? Yeah. So, I mean, oh like I said, i think my my first one is going to be Jordan Love. Like I've already talked about a little bit.
00:10:15
Speaker
Decision making was for the most part good. His passes were on point. I laughed about this during our post game that the one touchdown pass to oh Jaden Reed looked like Jordan was trying to stick it into his face mask because he was like, you're going to catch this one way or the other, whether I got to stick it into your face mask or you you catch it with your hands.
00:10:42
Speaker
There were a couple of decisions. I think there were a couple of times. I don't think he took a sack, but there were a couple of times when he got pressured that it's like, run it.
00:10:55
Speaker
Yeah, run it. the the one the one we're The one before the callback interception, that's one where it's like, just throw it away or take off kind of thing. I know he'll say that he was throwing it away, but it's like, that's not that's not a way enough ah ah ted you you know that a linebacker almost had the easiest interception of his career kind of thing. So yeah, I agree with you.
00:11:18
Speaker
outside of that, I think he did well. Didn't look like he had any issues handing off the ball. so i i think he's doing all right i guess there was the one scare where he did kind of scamper and it looked like he was trying to get down to slide but his his cleat either caught or i think he was i don't think he was trying to slide i think he was trying to cut and his cleat didn't catch so yeah he kind of went down like he's he saw the heat coming in and he went to go down but it just
00:11:51
Speaker
He wasn't like it it looked awkward like that. That's the thing is it looks so awkward that we can't even agree what he was trying to do. So, right. Yeah. But what was funny, it was it reminded me of the trick play that they tried to run where he went goofy legged because that was the same kind of legs that he had on that where just went goofy and then he went down.
00:12:15
Speaker
and I know there was a little bit concern there just because Like we've been saying, you know did he catch his cleat? Did you know something did he tweak something? But all things that I've seen, he's doing all right. yeah There's no issues. He went back in and played. like Yeah, and that was on the – I believe that was on the Jacobs touchdown drive. So he came out for another series another scoring series after that. So, yeah, it's not like they were like, oh, let's just pull him. You know, there wasn't even the precautionary, the game's over, let's get him out of there kind of thing. They they kept him in after that. So, yeah, I agree. Like it like you said, it was –
00:12:56
Speaker
B plus, A minus game from Love just because... the Obviously, on his two touchdown throws, great throws. Those two throws needed to be thrown in a certain way, the the first one more than the second one.
00:13:09
Speaker
But like you said, he put that thing to where Jaden had no choice but to catch the ball on the second one. And then on the first one, he puts that ball to Kraft over the linebacker before the two safeties. And he just puts that... And there's even...
00:13:24
Speaker
and honestly wasn't the greatest route combination because i forget who the receiver was but there's someone who was kind of like encroaching in uh tucker's area as well so it it wasn't like it was a wide open picture for love to throw into so good to see him make those kind of throws like you mentioned on the post game he just missed the throat of the dobs before they kicked the field goal to go up 10 zip i I commented, i thought Dobbs was a little too concerned with getting his feet down because I think he recognized like he was hugging the sideline and he's like, if I jump too high, I'm going to sail out of bounds kind of thing. So he tried to do the thing where he's like if I jump...
00:14:04
Speaker
at just the right moment, I'll get just enough air to catch the ball, but I'll still be able to keep my toes like in tapping range and not be out of bounds. You could see it on the replay where he's like looking up, looking down, looking up, looking down kind of thing. And I know that Romo's, and he did kind of preface it, like it's easy for me to say, but you know it looked like Tucker was coming open.
00:14:27
Speaker
It would have been one of those where if he comes down to Tucker late, it's going to be a bang-bang play because Brian Branch sees Tucker breaking away from the linebacker, and you see Branch break on that crossing route. So I think Tucker would make that play, but it's potentially one of those, like,
00:14:45
Speaker
ball gets popped up in the air kind of things and you're in the danger zone kind of thing. So I kind of, there's a part of me that, yeah, sure. Go get the first down. But also kind of did like that. He was like, ah, screw it. Go get the touchdown.
00:14:57
Speaker
And then like you said, I think we're all just going have to live with every once in a while. He's going to have those Farvian out of body. Oh, God.
00:15:08
Speaker
Like what happened there? Even the interception return. It's one of those where, no, I don't think he saw the flag thrown. And I don't ever like it when quarterbacks rely on a flag being thrown. and um But I think he came off of, because he's like reading, he Dobbs is where the ball is intended to go on that play.
00:15:28
Speaker
And when Dobbs isn't where he's supposed to be, he's like, okay, let me come check down. And that's one where you've got to just sail that thing out of bounds. Like I get trying to make it a catchable play, but because the safety can undercut that route like Branch did for what would have been an amazing interception, you've got to just sail that thing high and outside. And like if,
00:15:49
Speaker
I forget if it was Dobbs or Wicks on that route, but if one of them catches that, great. But like you've got to put that thing in such a safe spot that it's like it's it's your it's truly in your guy or nobody territory and stuff. And I like that he's trying to toe that line as much as possible, but that's one where it's like...
00:16:09
Speaker
The percentage outcome of a good outcome for Green Bay is like five. And everything else is like the next best thing is like a batted ball. And then it's interception kind of thing and stuff. And so and agree with you. Love, though, definitely overall gets to go in the good category.
00:16:27
Speaker
Has the big throws on the first drive. Obviously, the two-play touchdown drive where he hits Dobbs on the skinny post. Perfect throw. Get it over his man corner.
00:16:38
Speaker
and gets it there before the safety can rotate over to get make a play on the ball. And that's the one that it looked like it was just a pitch and catch because Dobbs was just stopped. Yeah. And like had his hands just right there.
00:16:51
Speaker
Yep. And I appreciate that Dobbs went up and attacked the ball on that one. Don't, like, give a chance for Arnold to catch up or for the safety to come and pop in and make a play on it. So good job getting that play.
00:17:03
Speaker
And then I think – and everywhere else, I thought he just did a good job controlling the game. You know, I know he's only 16-22 for 188 yards, but it was a very efficient – a very efficient pass day at the office.
00:17:17
Speaker
You know, that's – eight and a half yards per throw. That's a really good number.
Defensive Strengths and Key Players
00:17:24
Speaker
Anything above that, you're an MVP conversation. So eight and a half per throw is ah ah is a great day at the office.
00:17:31
Speaker
my my My best of the day is just the defense. And I know that's cheating, but in particular, the run defense. like we'll I know we'll talk about the pass rush, but you had questions You had questions and concerns. I had more questions on how it would look because this was a top 10 run defense by DVOA at the end of last season.
00:17:54
Speaker
And it was a sum of the part. you know The whole is greater than the sum of the parts operation. So you know as much as some people were like, oh, Kenny, all that kind of stuff, I was like, no, this should still be a solid, good to solid run defense.
00:18:09
Speaker
And shout out to Kobe Wooden. Kobe Wooden, you know, I kind of half jokingly tweeted after the game that Kobe Wooden should get his contract extension now. But in all honesty, he performed in a way that You know, the team talked him up so much, but we've heard them talk guys up before.
00:18:30
Speaker
i did not have that on my bingo card that he would absolutely own the point of attack pretty much this whole game. I don't know how like PFF is going to grade him today and stuff, but I thought he had a absolutely stellar game.
00:18:45
Speaker
manning both A-gaps. He used his quickness to get in the backfield. the The play, you know, to open their long scoring drive, he almost gets a tackle for loss where he swims the he swims across the A-gaps and he just can't make the tackle in the backfield. And he was just doing that all day. And...
00:19:07
Speaker
If that's how Halfley's going to have this defense operate, but like the only concern but concern I have is if teams try to take advantage of that activity up front, sort of the whole conversation of like, is Aaron Donald a detriment to his own defense because he's like so aggressive that it opens up?
00:19:24
Speaker
But I thought overall, the just the front seven as a whole was so in sync. You had... from point of attack with the nose tackles and, you know, Wooden was the star, but I thought Brooks had some good reps as the nose tackle.
00:19:42
Speaker
Wyatt had some good reps in run stop. And then behind it, Quay and Edge Cooper were just engaged all day and let fully leveraged their athleticism.
00:19:55
Speaker
I thought Edge had a rough start to the game. There were like two or three plays that I know he'd love to have back where, you know, he... He had one where he just whiffed on a tackle in the backfield. He had the one where he runs right by David Montgomery. As you know it it looks you're kind of like as you're watching it on the broadcast, you're like oh, that's a tackle for loss or a no gain.
00:20:14
Speaker
And then it's like, oh, never mind. It was two shivers in the night kind of thing. And then like it started to turn around for Edge when he had that play where he like tries to swing Gibbs down and loses his grip on him.
00:20:28
Speaker
But luckily for Edge, Gibbs goes like three more yards backwards, and then everybody is able to converge on the ball, and Edge does help finish off the tackle for a loss. And we've heard for years that the Packers are trying to upgrade their speed on defense, upgrade their speed on defense.
00:20:46
Speaker
They have everywhere but linebacker, and they finally have found two guys who can truly run sideline to sideline. And I think Edge has really unlocked Kuei because I think Kuei, and I can't say for certain, but it almost looked like he was compensating for Wilson and McDuffie and also trying to learn the new scheme.
00:21:13
Speaker
But now that he knows that the guy next to him is might be faster than him, he's like, if I think I see it, I'm going for it. And that guy's going to clean it up. Or if he shoots, I'm cleaning it up for him kind of thing. And it creates this really good symbiotic relationship between the two of them. and it Like I said, we'll see how when they play a team, any other team that wants to run the ball, you know they're going to play the Eagles later.
00:21:37
Speaker
They're going to play the Ravens. those are yeah know And it's good that they have time until those matchups. But this was a really good test week one. when no one plays in preseason anymore, run fits are always a little dicey early in the season, and they answered the bell on that about as well as they possibly could throughout this game. I mean, we know what Detroit wants to do, and you hold them under 50 yards rushing and 2.1 yards per carry and no rushing touchdowns, that's a hell of a day at the offense for Halfley's defensive unit.
00:22:07
Speaker
For sure. And I think even this Thursday's game against the Commanders is going to because they've got a mobile quarterback. So that'll be ah ah another true test for them. i think Quay did have that one where he came off the edge and. Oh, he got w blocked pretty good. Yeah, that was the play right after it was it one of those like, oh, moments, because that was literally the play after Edge ran right by Montgomery.
00:22:35
Speaker
So. Yeah. Yeah. It was a little unfortunate, but other than that, doubt that and then the only other play I kind of was like, oh, dang it, Quay on, was the fourth down on Detroit's final drive where... almost interception?
00:22:49
Speaker
No, no, no, not that. that one i like That one, he's bailing to the half, so I can't even get upset at that. I'm talking about the one where Jameson Williams catches the ball in the middle of the field.
00:23:00
Speaker
He has the first down. He gives up the first down, and then Quay just like, he's kind of out of position to make the tackle. But you are a a linebacker on a receiver, and you do want him to, like, pull Jamison Williams back, like, to stop him short of the first down.
00:23:17
Speaker
And he kind of does the thing where, you're like, because he's out of position, he sort of, like, slingshots him across the line of scrimmage or across the first down marker. And those were the only two plays where I'm kind of like, dang it. But...
00:23:29
Speaker
You know, that's that's in game over. Detroit is in desperation mode. Green Bay, you're just trying not to give up anything big. So it's like, obviously, it would be great to not let them score one more time. But honestly, at that point, you're just in like, don't overexert yourself and get hurt and don't give up the big play mode kind of thing. So like, it's it it was one of those, like, it would have been good for the highlight, but like, it's fine kind of moment.
00:23:56
Speaker
Well, I just think that the almost interception is just par for his career because that always seems to happen where it just gets that much over what he can but i think he kind of did it himself on that on that play because when i watched it he like hooked his arms up like he was gonna basket catch it if he would have just went straight up with his hands i think he would have had it i think he sucked himself out on it where
00:24:24
Speaker
I think he he psyched himself out because he's like, am I going to get this? It was the whole, like, am I going to get there? Am I going to run under it kind of thing? And he's a linebacker. He's not a tight end. So, like, it's one of those.
00:24:37
Speaker
I sat there and I watched and I was like, why are you trying to basket catch that thing? Just get your arms up. You know, at least he could have batted it down. I mean, he did get a finger on it, but at least it would have, like,
00:24:48
Speaker
popped it down or whatever, and it would have looked a little bit better. But now you're looking like you whiffed completely. Yeah. I'll piggyback a little bit on yours because this has got to be brought up one way or the other. But got to give, you know, freshness to Micah Parsons.
00:25:08
Speaker
Just coming in with only a week to prepare, you know, the whole story about his back. everything like that, not knowing the system too well, comes in and has a dominant performance like he did today in limited snaps.
00:25:25
Speaker
I think what they say in the first half, he only had like 11 snaps. What do you have for the second half? Did you hear? must have ended up with 18 because he played 29 overall.
00:25:36
Speaker
Okay. So, you know, only having that many snaps and and causing the havoc that he did, I mean, you've got to, you got to give it to him.
00:25:50
Speaker
I mean, it it it kind of reminds you in and a roundabout way of Malik Willis last year, only having been in the system for, you know, ah ah cup of tea and then, hey guess what you're playing. And he, he,
00:26:05
Speaker
and so he he I know we were laughing in our little group chat with Mafi and all those guys that Mafi had just said that how much you want to bet these people are going to be complaining because he's Micah Parsons isn't showing up on the stat line. And then right then he gets a sack.
00:26:29
Speaker
But outside of that, he didn't need to be in the stat line. he He really, he was disruptive. Evan Williams wouldn't got his interception had it not been for the Micah Parsons factor.
00:26:43
Speaker
Uh, what was the other one? Was it, was it Lucas's sack or was it Rashawn sack that he, he was disruptive and basically ran golf into the other one.
00:27:00
Speaker
oh i think but Lucas' is one, he took the he took the attention of the whole right side of the offensive line. like yeah the Domovsky's forever posting those play dots things.
00:27:14
Speaker
And like when you see the dots, Parsons rushes wide and the right tackle and guard both follow him behind the pocket. And so, like, you know, it it allows Lucas to just dump truck the left guard into his lap and he can't bail out the backside of the pocket. So...
00:27:33
Speaker
Yeah, like the impact was felt immensely and immediately. it kind of lets you just laugh at all the people who are like, well, he wasn't that important to the Dallas defense. You know, like all the backpedaling and the copium, as the kids say, like there was so much of it where so many people were trying to say like, oh, no, no, no, no. Like, it's not all him. Like, he's just the guy who, he's just the janitor. He just cleans up a lot of stats and stuff like that. Or just so many excuses for why he's so good as opposed to just acknowledging that he is an elite Hall of Fame track kind of player. And you so and my favorite one is Wes Hodd.
00:28:16
Speaker
reposting his sack, the video of his sack and Wes Hod's he looks like a monster from a horror movie. Like I don't have the right, quite the but he's like, this is like a horror movie when the monster or the killer is coming after the the protagonist in the foreground kind of, and it it made me laugh because that's really what it looked like because it's like are like, it is the whole, like in a horror movie, like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
00:28:44
Speaker
And in that instance, I was like, he's got it He's going to get like, he's going to get him kind of thing. And, you know, it's the it's the Jeff Goldblum line from Jurassic Park in and Independence Day.
00:28:57
Speaker
Must go faster. And Parsons did go faster and got him. So it just it. We've seen him play against the Packers. And it's weird to say that it feels different watching him on your team kind of thing. And I think what that goes to say is LaFleur has done a really good job in the couple of games that they've played against Dallas of like taking him out of the game relatively.
00:29:26
Speaker
And to the playoff game where... He had, like, a couple pressures and quarterback hits kind of thing, but I don't believe he sacked Love in the playoff game. But you just see the way that he screws up the blocking scheme.
00:29:39
Speaker
And and I think what really... just fortifies how big of a move this is for Green Bay is Rashawn and Lucas getting sacks on the day because that's something that Parsons didn't have in Dallas.
00:29:58
Speaker
I know he played with Demarcus Lawrence for a couple years and, you know, there was like Robert. No, he didn't. put But there's like Dante Fowler. But there was no one.
00:30:09
Speaker
And I know that people are like, oh, Rashawn's been underwhelming. Lucas is underwhelming. But they
00:30:17
Speaker
Parsons has not played with two guys of that caliber across or next to him. And I think that those three are going to create hell for opposing offenses.
Wide Receivers' Contribution
00:30:28
Speaker
And the three of them might have 40 sacks between them when this season is over and said and done. Well, not just those guys, but then add in like Devontae Wyatt and and Kobe Wooden, they're going to get theirs too because of the Micah Parsons project. So...
00:30:45
Speaker
oh Yeah, so I definitely got to give it to him. Do you got any more for your freshness? I think one more thing just to acknowledge again, we kind of touched on it when we talked about Jordan is a clean game from the wide receivers.
00:31:01
Speaker
I know we only threw it 22 times, but to go 16 for 22 on good efficiency and only really one drop. And even that drop, it wasn't like the most blatant one in the world kind of thing. Like it wasn't an easy play for Jaden, but that is one where it's like, you want to be wide receiver one, you got to make that play kind of play.
00:31:22
Speaker
But otherwise, like, Dontavian Wicks caught the ball clean. Romeo Dobbs caught the ball clean. Spreading it around to, what is it? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Ten different receivers.
00:31:36
Speaker
I know the Savion one is a little bit cheating because it was like is the jet sweep push pass one. But, hey. But if we were looking at it last year, he would have dropped the damn thing.
00:31:46
Speaker
Yeah. and because Yeah, I told you. I was just going to say that's how the things went last year was he would have dropped that one too. So yeah, it was a clean game.
00:31:59
Speaker
i even have to give Romeo props. I know Romeo was a yeah was known for his route running in that. But man, he was running some crisp routes today.
00:32:11
Speaker
Yeah, it just was crazy. It's and. and That's one of, you know, I said it in our group chat. That's one of the reasons that I loved him as a prospect coming out of Nevada is like, I know he came from like a spread run and shoot kind of scheme where everyone's like, oh, do those guys really translate to the pros and stuff? But he had some and advanced route running capabilities. And that's why I've always stated like,
00:32:35
Speaker
You know, people got to understand the difference between like the number one read on a route and like a wide receiver one. He's not going to be like a wide receiver one in the traditional sense, but he's the guy that's going to come in and do the traditional route running wide receiver things. He'll snap off those clean dig routes.
00:32:53
Speaker
He can run double move posts and stuff. And part of it is because... Golden maybe isn't quite ready to do all of those things. Watson's not healthy.
00:33:04
Speaker
But also, Dobbs is big. Like, I don't think he gets enough credit for being a pretty, like, blocky 6'2 target out there. he's He's kind of got that James Jones build where it's like he's just a stocky, sturdy guy. And he's not the best athlete, but he has good speed.
00:33:23
Speaker
And it's... It's just good to see him get his opportunity. You know, there's the whole like, he's never had a 40-yard reception in his career and all that kind of stuff. Nice to see him check that off that box off today.
00:33:36
Speaker
And I like the balance. You know, no one had, you know, Reid led the team with five targets. Everyone caught more, caught half or more of their targets today.
00:33:46
Speaker
So it was just a good day at the office for everyone involved. For sure. And, and... Yeah, I just because there was the one route.
00:33:57
Speaker
God, I can't even think of what play it was, but he was running like a in route and it was an up and in kind of like a slam. And I just watched him like smooth go up and just transition. i was like, he's been working.
00:34:15
Speaker
And like, you just go and watch his highlights and he has one of those routes every year. Like the one that stands out last year in this regard is against the Bears in Chicago. He has the route where he he he runs like a it's like a deep whip route where he breaks in and then cuts flat out to the sideline.
00:34:33
Speaker
And Tyreek Stevenson is left in his, du he's just left in his baffles on that play. And he has those routes, but it's always, you know, People are like, oh, we don't see him do that. I'm like, that's the thing is like the intent of every route is obviously to get open, but you're not always supposed to be the most open, if that makes sense. you're A lot of route combinations are there's a certain route you are trying to get open with all of your other receivers, and that's the preferred target on a given play.
00:35:05
Speaker
And... and You know, and honestly, don't even know if the post that that ah ah Love hit him on is necessarily the route they're looking for.
00:35:15
Speaker
I think it's just that the safety was down. He cooked Terran Arnold to the point where Love's like, screw it. We're going hard play action. I'm taking this shot and I, you know, that's the one thing that, know, so many people are always like, we can do better than Dobbs, we can do, and I do think they've drafted, they've tried to draft guys who are like, you know, Wicks is a little bit better as a route runner.
00:35:38
Speaker
Golden is the guy who should be able to do a lot more things with his separation skills, his agility, his explosiveness. But it can't be understated that Dobbs is the guy that it's like when Love needs a play, Dobbs is one of, is like one or one A of like, I'm looking for this guy. right And like, there's no way to quantify how much that's worth for an offense, but he is that guy. And it it's not something to be undersold on like the importance of that.
00:36:13
Speaker
But we could we could We could lavish on how good of a game this was for hours, but to keep the program moving on, let's go to our next category, the stale item. What's the stale shit?
00:36:29
Speaker
So you got one that's leading off for you, or? Yeah, I'm going to put it as... No, I'm not going to do that one. oh My stale, because this is the one spot that I was kind of miffed at,
00:36:44
Speaker
we did not get the deep route throw to Matthew Golden.
00:36:49
Speaker
I thought for everything in the world that they would take that one shot like they did with Watson his rookie year. Down the field with his 4.29 speed, we talked about it on our preview where the safeties are good on Detroit, but the DBs sure aren't showing much of anything.
00:37:12
Speaker
it would have been the perfect time to do it. First play of the drive for the Packers one shot down and they just, they didn't do it. So that's, that's a stale for me. And yeah, like his, his, first reception as an NFL receiver is on kind of like a, don't know if it was a broken player or a intended rollout, but love hits him on a kind of secondary reaction ish play on a third down big conversion on the opening drive. And,
00:37:42
Speaker
I agree, though. I did think they would have a little bit more in him, more in the game plan for him. I do like that they were more balanced this week. I think that sets up better for the coming weeks.
00:37:55
Speaker
But I am a little surprised that no one really took a heavier chunk of the target share of this game. My still for the game, hmm.
00:38:10
Speaker
It's hard to think of stale ones because stale yeah by stale, we mean it's like an in-between that it's not bad, but it's not great. Yeah. I guess it'll just kind of be a little bit of the like sort of pseudo-complacency coming out of halftime on offense.
00:38:25
Speaker
I get it. You haven't touched the ball a lot because like Detroit took a long drive going into the half.
Criticism of Conservative Play Calling
00:38:31
Speaker
I know that we got the interception, but like I said, LaFleur played it a little safe after the Evan Williams interception, because I think he was just like, we're still in our own territory. There's not that much time. I know we have some timeouts, but it's like the worst thing we can do is just give the ball right back to Detroit and,
00:38:48
Speaker
you know, then then it's like, ugh, like, now we're kind of like, we just, we stopped them, but we helped them back out kind of thing. But I think i would have preferred to see, like, a shot play on that opening drive of the second half, you know, especially after Detroit takes, what did they take? They took, where did the play-by-play So Detroit comes out of the half, goes nine plays, 59 yards, five minutes and 20 seconds, and kicks a field goal.
00:39:18
Speaker
So, you know, Green Bay in the last almost quarter of time has touched the ball for three plays. And in between, you have halftime break as well. And it's like your quarterback's hot.
00:39:33
Speaker
Try to take a shot play. Like, let's keep it going kind of thing. The third down play, and so it's like, it's one of those where I wish they took the shot play on second down.
00:39:42
Speaker
The third down play, I don't have as much of a problem with it as a lot of people do. Yes, like... Try something a little more... If you want to run it, try something a little more extravagant than just a run up the middle kind of thing.
00:39:58
Speaker
But also, my problem with that play is like Jacobs has to follow the intended route of that play. He's not going to bounce plays out the back door very often. And I thought he gave up on it. i think he saw Anzalone coming downhill, but Elton saw him too.
00:40:15
Speaker
And Elton knocked him out of the way and... It looked like a lot of traffic, but you only needed one yard. And the Packers actually had it blocked up pretty good on that play. And so, like you said, it's... My stale is more just, like, kind of hemming and hawing at some of the, like, are those week one things or are those, like, continuing trends from last year and stuff? So it's hard to say for sure which way those things are going.
00:40:43
Speaker
But, yeah, like, that's kind of it for stale. Like... Tackling overall was good. Effort on defense overall was good. You know, people are going to say, like, what about the run blocking? I thought it was fine early on. I think it's more that Detroit really just wanted to take it away and force Green Bay to prove that they could beat them over the top, and Green Bay did.
00:41:04
Speaker
like Green Bay did the whole first half. So I like that LaFleur kind of said, like, if that's what you're giving me, then fine. We're going to take advantage of it. My quarterback is healthy this season.
00:41:16
Speaker
yeah, I would have just liked to see a little more ingenuity to open the second half to, like, kind of take advantage of where the Packers had been going into halftime.
00:41:30
Speaker
I think my only other stale that I can go with is oh Luke Musgrave. He needs to learn how to stay on his feet because no matter what happens, anytime the ball gets in his hand, it doesn't matter if the guy is standing up on the ground a yard away, five yards away.
00:41:50
Speaker
he cannot stay on his feet i don't know if he's just yeah too tall for his own body and he's just that clumsy or what but yeah learn go for some ballet lessons or something buddy My thing with him is if I was his coach, I would just tell him, don't try to juke anyone out.
00:42:11
Speaker
just Just run. but Like, you're fast. You know, I would just, like, I would go, i would lean totally into the, like, almost gaslighting him and be like, you're so fast, you're so big, just run in a straight line. And, like, sure, you can dip your shoulder if you see someone coming at you kind of thing. But, like, don't try to juke.
00:42:28
Speaker
That's not what you're good at. Like, I would totally lean into that side of it. And, like, you know, it's it's like... like Like I said, it's gaslighting because it's like you're talking him up on the things he's good at.
00:42:40
Speaker
But it's like, you're not a jukeart. You're not Barry Sanders. Don't try that shit. Like, it's never worked for you. And it only brings out the things you're worse than. you get comfortable doing it. Yeah.
00:42:51
Speaker
And I don't know if he just needs to, like, do more core exercises if that's his problem. But... Maybe he needs more hot yoga or something. But yeah, he just, you could see it too.
00:43:03
Speaker
Like, i was like, oh good, the safety fell down. and I was like, oh God, he almost fell down too. It was. I just couldn't believe it. It was the lamest Spider-Man pointing meme of all time. And was like, damn it.
00:43:20
Speaker
But yeah, he just, he's got to do something. don't know, ballet lessons or something. Alright.
00:43:29
Speaker
And on to our... it's emodi cheese I'm to try not to talk over the sound bites one of these days. Moldy, let's get the elephant out of the room. The NFL's new taunting rules are dumb as shit.
00:43:42
Speaker
so Like... Well, like I said during the post-game show, you can always tell when a rule is going to be overcalled and over-exaggerated when they say they're going to put an emphasis on this.
00:43:55
Speaker
you put an emphasis on this. And the the example I used was a few years back with Clay Matthews when they said they were going to put an emphasis on calling roughing the passer.
00:44:06
Speaker
And every week it seemed like Clay was getting nailed for some BS roughing the passer ah ah moment. And today's game was no different with the taunting.
00:44:20
Speaker
You have like Xavier McKinney, hit the guy, stood over him, flexed, whatever, didn't sue so stomp him, didn't, you know, jump on him and start pounding his head in the dirt or whatever.
00:44:37
Speaker
And he gets a taunting. But like Brian pointed out during the post game, you had Amon Ross St. Brown head butting people.
00:44:47
Speaker
Where's or was it Jamison Williams either or they were head butting people. How is that not taunting compared to just standing over a guy? Or even on the play that you called Xavier taunting on, it's still unnecessary roughness for the receiver to headbutt Xavier when he stands up. like yeah yeah it's It's like when you like when I tell my kids, OK, sure, that other kid might have pushed you, but that doesn't you know you can't go and push them back kind of thing. like
00:45:17
Speaker
you know Oh, not me. I'd tell them. You punched that person right in the mouth.
00:45:23
Speaker
But, yeah, I'm like, okay, like, unless you can tell me that ah ah Xavier McKinney said something so vile to that receiver that it excuses a blatant headbutt, like, what are we doing here?
00:45:39
Speaker
like it yeah Like, it makes no sense. And like you said, You call that one and then it's like, oh, we filled our quota for the day.
00:45:51
Speaker
Like, so yeah. Well, because on top of that, that makes it, they call it an unsportsmanlike and that goes one against being ejected from the game.
00:46:02
Speaker
Right. So that means now you've got to play the whole game not scared but a little bit more passive because you got to worry that they're going to give you another one to throw you out right yeah if the first one was that you know i'm sure in some level uh x is like what did i say or do and then you're like oh god like what's the line do do they know what the line is kind of thing right yeah i i agree what's yours uh
00:46:30
Speaker
Well, you used it for your stale, but I'm going to put it on my my my moldy cheese and go with the play calling coming out of the first half.
00:46:42
Speaker
I don't know how many times we hear it where it's all gas, no fucking break, shit like that, and then you come out flat. There should have been no reason that there were three straight handoffs. get you want to get the run game going, but your pass game is winning.
00:47:00
Speaker
This is a team that you've lost a lot of games to in the last few years. You want to make an example. You want to come out to that. This also is the first home game in, what, seven years to start the week or start the season.
00:47:19
Speaker
Why not make an example out of it? You're manhandling this team. You're doing whatever the hell you want to them.
00:47:30
Speaker
put that foot on the throat squeeze it and go
00:47:34
Speaker
yeah and like i said i get it's always so hard because it's like oh do we play the long game do we play but yeah like i said especially after jacobs has a good run on first down i wanted to see a shot for those of you that are listening and Kiwano's daughter is boss of the house right now and she's making it known.
00:48:00
Speaker
Yeah. the The two of them are jousting on the side over there. So.
00:48:08
Speaker
And my son just Flynn ridered himself off of the couch.
00:48:16
Speaker
but But anyway, yeah. What were you saying? No, I was just going to say that it's yeah. I'm... It's one of those... Like I said, if Jacobs runs that third down play like he should and, you know, follows his blocking, trusts his blocking on that play, it's like, oh, you got that that first first down is always the hardest to get on any drive. You hear it all the time when, like, teams are trying to make, know, last last last possession rally kind of plays in and stuff.
00:48:50
Speaker
Hey!
00:48:54
Speaker
and you know like roger said it about you know the 2017 game in dallas where it's like that first first down is always the the most important one and stuff like that but yeah a little more creative you get six yards on first down take a shot play they were working all first half take that shot play be aggressive And like you said, I know where you're coming from is like, this is mostly stinky if it's like, this is a continuing trend kind of thing.
00:49:26
Speaker
You know, maybe it's just a one-off, but, you know, we'd prefer to see the go the other way. Well, disagree with you on that one. It technically is an ongoing thing because how many times in the past under LaFleur have we seen the same thing?
00:49:39
Speaker
where they go up on a team and and then it just seems like, okay, well, we got to let them get back into the game. You know, we we can't make them look this bad. So it just, it is an ongoing thing.
00:49:53
Speaker
And this is from a guy who we've said has been quoted as saying, all gas, no fucking break, wake up with your piss hot, you know, whatever other sound bites that you want to throw out there.
00:50:07
Speaker
And he doesn't show it.
00:50:10
Speaker
Yeah, and...
00:50:13
Speaker
You're muted.
00:50:16
Speaker
ah ah The problem with having kids and trying to record at the same time. This is why we usually record in the pitch black of dark here. But... What's it called?
00:50:27
Speaker
Like... And that's where, as much as I understand what LeFleur was trying to do after the interception, ah ah do kind of wish they were a little more aggressive. You know, he's trying to, like, play the time field position, but also, like, try and get Detroit to call their timeouts kind of thing.
00:50:46
Speaker
So it's kind of like, and in both situations, both that drive after the interception and the one coming out of half hinge on players stripping over themselves or making weird decisions. Because the but one before halftime, it's Musgrave falling down and not getting a first down when you know he should have had a lane to do so.
00:51:07
Speaker
The one coming out of half, it's Jacob's cutting back when he should just stay the course and stuff. So yeah, I agree with you though. I'm approaching it where like I try to take each season as its own entity, but you're right that in the grand scheme of things, this is a trend from LaFleur that you want to see him do differently.
00:51:30
Speaker
For sure. My only other stinky, moldy, whatever you want to call it is probably
00:51:38
Speaker
How do I want to...
00:51:40
Speaker
the I know I'm i'm dead air because I'm trying to phrase it because it wasn't really bad, but it seemed like there for a minute, the defense reverted back to not wanting to stop the run, letting them pass all over the place.
00:51:58
Speaker
I mean, if you if you look at the two stat lines... Between them all, between the quarterbacks, you would think Jordan was the one with Goff's stat line and Goff was the one with Jordan's stat line, you know, considering because Goff went 31 of 39 for 225 and Jordan went 16 of 22 for 188.
00:52:23
Speaker
And I get that Goff was trying to come back, so of course they were throwing more. But it just seemed like there were moments there that oh
00:52:35
Speaker
Then it was like, oh oh, here comes the old Packers team. Here comes the old Packers team. let's Let's nip this in the bud real quick. and i And this is where i was kind of getting with the play calling, where it's like I do try to treat things as you know different seasons as their own entity. Because how many times have we seen Ben don't break, Ben don't break, and they break every time?
00:52:57
Speaker
And they even kind of dip under athlete last year a little bit. And so you know there is the concern that it's like, the like you know is this the same thing with a different season?
00:53:10
Speaker
And this is like one of the weirdest stat boxes you're going to see because there was a point where it seemed like Detroit was out of the type of positioning the Packers by like 12 minutes or something like it They put the graphic up and I swear it was like Detroit was at like 20 minutes and or 24 minutes and Green Bay was at like 11 or something like that. Yeah.
00:53:36
Speaker
It ended up being nine and a half minutes. in you know Detroit's at like 34 and 34, 25 34. Yeah, 35, 25. And Green Bay's at 24, 35. So you're time of possession like 11 minutes. But Green them by 20 yards. And 18 fewer plays. you're out time of possession by like eleven minutes but green bay outgained them by twenty yards and india eighteen fewer plays so you know you don't want to be running that fewer plays over the course of a season because your defense just isn't gonna hold up but at the same time it's like they're doing all of this work where and it's that whole like it's almost like detroit because they could only dink and dunk except for the one drive out at halftime where they got a couple chunk plays
00:54:20
Speaker
They were almost running the clock out for the Packers because like much having so much trouble moving the ball that it was like, okay, like they're gaining first downs, but it's like four yards at a time, three yards at a time, five yards at a time kind of thing. And I agree.
00:54:37
Speaker
You don't want this to be a three and out or long field goal, touchdown drive defense. Like you you've got, you can't live on the extremes like that. Like you, when, when it comes to playoff time, when you play the good teams, that's not going to be a ah ah recipe for success, but you know, week one, they're still moving pieces. Parsons isn't fully integrated. He's not playing 70% of the snaps. Like he should once he's fully in, in scheme and up to speed conditioning wise.
00:55:05
Speaker
So I agree. i I struggled with where I wanted to put that and I kind of just left it off because I didn't know how to qualify it. But now that we're talking about it, that was one of those, and don't want to say it's a total red flag, but you are kind of like, hmm, like,
00:55:20
Speaker
That is the one that we're going to earmark like, okay, how often is this team able to like get off the field if it's not a three and out, you know, can they force third downs and get off the field kind of thing.
Challenges and Future Considerations
00:55:31
Speaker
And that's one of the frustrating things with Goff is he's kind of Brady-like in that sense where it's like, okay.
00:55:37
Speaker
And I know everyone's like, oh my God, the Packers corners. I think... Honestly, the fact that you weren't seeing chunk plays, that's good for the corners and that they were giving up just the like check down ish routes and the like, you know everything was a horizontal or coming back to golf kind of route.
00:55:54
Speaker
It's frustrating to watch in real time. But when you look at the box score, like I said, it's like, okay, yeah, you're gaining, you're gaining. almost two yards per play better than your opponent.
00:56:07
Speaker
You know, you held Detroit at 3.8 yards per play. And Like I said, that's where it barely equates out to converting third downs over the course of a game.
00:56:20
Speaker
But also, you're making them have to be perfect to score. And they either, the game mattered, they were kicking field goals or getting intercepted in the red zone. So it's obnoxious to watch at times, but it is quote-unquote winning football.
00:56:39
Speaker
So yeah, like you said... We need to see how that plays out as the season goes along. But for week one, I'll take you it. For sure. I mean, I get it. But it just, like i said, it it got frustrating. It brings up a lot of bad Joe Barry memories. So I totally understand. Other other than that, I don't think I really have any more.
00:57:07
Speaker
do we I mean, you could throw a ah ah stale in there, Nate Hobbs injury. I know it's not his fault, but, you know, it's funny that they get rid of Jair because of quote unquote injury issues, but they bring in, you know, Nate Hobbs with his expensive contract and we're dealing with the same shit. But I mean, other than that, I think I'm, I'm good.
00:57:33
Speaker
And it sounds like you're you're getting yelled at by your daughter, so we we better cut it pretty quick. Do you have anything for your favorite segment of the week? No, not at the moment, because it'll probably be for the preview if I find anything, because we'll see what the talking heads all have to say about the game and what happened and all that stuff.
00:57:56
Speaker
Okay, I guess I do have one stale out of this game. My one stale would be... What's it called? We're on the short week, and you've got two. You're coming out of this game with a big win, and it's this makes this win so much more important is that you have Aaron Banks, who got injured on the Jacobs touchdown run, and what's it called? And Zach Tom, who got hurt on the pick six. That was it. That was nullified by the defensive hold.
00:58:25
Speaker
And you know you only have a few days in between games. Hard to say, you know, how precautionary they were with holding those guys out, you know, because of how quick the turnaround is. You know, like, it's the whole... Kind of like kind of like with... What's it? What's it called?
00:58:44
Speaker
Like, like, love's thumb. It's like, would those guys have been in the game trying to play if this was a more back and forth competition? Or were they just like, they're out, out kind of thing? But, you know, you know, was Green Bay playing it safe and they could have played? Or, oh, no, like, they were not coming back. And I guess it helps that neither was like, that guy's out.
00:59:04
Speaker
Like, you know, they were both like, just questionable to return. But it's not the greatest thing going into a short week. And then also Brenton Cox got hurt on you know in the second quarter.
00:59:16
Speaker
So, know, stale in the sense that it's like, oh we're here already kind of thing. So we'll see where that goes for the team. Yeah, I guess I got a stale one too. I know I said we need to wrap up because you've got a jungle going on over there. But...
00:59:32
Speaker
I brought it up during our post game and I'm not sure how I feel about it. And that's the rotation they had at punt return. ah ah you know, they, they had one punt return by golden and then they threw Jaden Reed out there.
00:59:49
Speaker
Now they had save you on doing the kick returns and he was purely, that was, he was the only one doing kick returns, but I, I struggle with how to bring it up because There should really be no problem with rotating them in and out.
01:00:08
Speaker
But you want to get a guy comfortable back there. Yes. and I agree. you be comfortable back there, then you've you've got somebody worrying too much. I agree with you. it's It goes into the...
01:00:21
Speaker
Like you said, I don't want to put it in stale because it like worked out well. like And i I had a tweet where I joked that Golden caught the first punt, took it back. you know what What did he get on the return? He got a pretty good return on it.
01:00:35
Speaker
Yeah. like First off, he caught the punt. 11 yard return. So first off, caught the ball. Didn't let it bounce, didn't let it do weird shit. And you know you know as they always say, they create that quote unquote hidden yardage and all that kind of stuff.
01:00:52
Speaker
Second of all, what's it? And then I joked that, oh, Jaden Reed saw Matthew Golden field the punt.
01:01:00
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And he went and was like, I'm going to field punts too. Like, you know, like last year, that was one of the things that you and I were really frustrated with is it's like he's letting balls bounce that are creating an extra 10 yards of field position kind of thing and stuff.
01:01:15
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And so it's like, o you know, yeah half the job is catching the ball. And I know that one, another guy who is an Iowa fan kind of joked that like, oh, like when I, when we drafted Michael Hyde, I was like, oh good. I know he's a good punt returner.
01:01:32
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and My friend Jeff was like, oh, but he fair catches a lot of them. But I'm like, that's honestly really important. And I know that Hyde had this reputation for being a little too safe coming out of college when it came to returning punts.
01:01:44
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But half the battle is saving that 5, 10, 15 yards of bouncing football. And so, yeah, but I agree with you. I don't know how to feel about the fact that they didn't settle on one.
01:01:57
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Like, is it –
01:02:01
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Is it good or bad that, i what's it called? That like Golden had to take one? Is it a matter of, like I joked in the the post game thread.
01:02:11
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Is it, they weren't, they didn't like how, they didn't like where jaden reed's foot injection or whatever however he took his painkiller they didn't like how it was going so far at the first punt of the game like they they wanted it to progress a little more so that's one of those like you said it it goes into the we'll file that under the we'll see how it goes the rest of the season but yeah it It was interesting to say the least. Like, yeah, I was shocked when Jaden went out for the next punt return after Golden had such a good first one.
01:02:45
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Yeah, he took it for 11 yards. Yeah. And Reed ends up averaging 10 and a half yards on his two returns. So, like, it was a good productive day on special teams, honestly. And like I said in the postgame, I understand where people don't want to have Golden as the punt returner because, you know, he's slotted as the number one receiver on the team, first-round pick, blah, blah, blah.
01:03:11
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But he's an athletic person. He's got 4'2", 9 speed. You want him to be taking some of this stuff because you want him on the field. If he could play like Travis Hunter and be a corner and a wide receiver at the same time,
01:03:25
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I'd do it in a heartbeat just because that's his athletic profile. But i just i don't want to get into these guys' is' head that, well, you know, I can't rest because now I've got to go take a punt return.
01:03:39
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But this is going on. or you know I don't want want them to worry get that in their head and worry about it. So it it's not a moldy yet, but it is certainly a stale.
01:03:51
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I agree with you, but like I said, we could go on. I know there's some Detroit fans who are copiuming it in many different ways. Some of them like, oh my God, it's they're treating it like it's their super bowl. And I appreciate the fans that are making the Packers fans making the, how would you know, you've never been to one jokes.
01:04:11
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and like, there's going to be a lot of that this season for the Packers, like be prepared for the goalposts to be moved a lot. I'll say this again. and i heard this referenced on one of those.
01:04:25
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I do think that Love is possibly either the first or second under most pressure following the Parsons acquisition because it's like, okay, like this is an all-in move, kind of move. like You got to make it happen.
01:04:41
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At the same time, Love is both under the one of the most two most pressure on the team, but also this is a feather in his cap that Gutekunst is like, general you know, he said it all in the post-Parsons acquisition presser. Like, you know how much we value these picks.
01:05:01
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You know how hard it is for us to part with a guy like Kenny Clark. yeah He did... All of that to acquire a player of Parsons talent, yes. But also because unlike the Bears who were like, Mr. Biscay, is he going to do it?
01:05:16
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They're like, Jordan Love, this this guy who wears number 10, that's the guy. And he's going to get it done for us this season. Like, there's no bigger, to me, there's no bigger vote of confidence that Gutekunst could have given him than to be like,
01:05:31
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You know, because some people are like, oh, how much, you know, they're going to do the how much help does Jordan Love need? He didn't get him a receiver. He didn't get him a lineman with this acquisition. He got a pass rush. He got a guy who plays on the opposite side of the ball.
01:05:44
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And to me, from my point of view, that is your general manager saying that, all right, dude, this offense is going to go as you go. And I'm going to shore up the other side of the ball because I think that you are going to take us to the heights on offense that you will you should.
01:05:59
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and we're going to improve this defense to give us a chance on the other side of the ball. So, I know this a long-winded way to say, like, I'm really happy with how this season opened for the Packers.
01:06:11
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There's going to be a lot of expectation resetting going around this season, but they got their first test and they passed it with an A. And we'll see how they do with the short week in Washington, but really good to see them come out swinging and knock off a team that's been the boogeyman for them for the past four years.
01:06:30
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For sure. For sure.
01:06:34
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All right. Well, oh, I realized, sorry. One more thing we should do. As we are, as you know, I said that that I try to look at how the team does in a year-to-year thing.
01:06:46
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We are, we too at Ohana Packers are going to turn over a new leaf and we are going to go over, we are going to go over our over-unders.
01:06:57
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So, Parsons, 20 and a half snaps. We both took the over. You said clearly over. I said barely. So both technically got it right. But if we're going with a fine comb, you got it more correct than I did.
01:07:12
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Second one was Rashawn. I said others would get him correct on that part. But you were right that he ended up with one. And I tweeted this. I said it in the postgame of the the live stream.
01:07:25
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I'm the biggest, what I am one of, if it's not me, it's Jacob Westendorf who the biggest Rashawn Gary defenders and stands in the Packers fandom. I think he should have ended with just one.
01:07:38
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Lucas deserved a whole sack for what he did on that play where he dumped Christian Mahogany into Goff's lap. Like, Rashawn touched him on the way down, but Lucas is the one who dragged him down on that play.
01:07:53
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Love, two and a half touchdowns. I said over, all passing. You said under because Jacobs exists. By the hair of your chinny-chin-chin, you were right. Yeah.
01:08:07
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Josh Jacobs rushing yards, 50 and a half. He had... 66 rushing yards. And we both were over. Because he had more than the whole Lions team combined. Yep.
01:08:24
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And souls taken, I'm going to give you the over. Like you said, not... And I was half right when I said not because of Detroit isn't that team to get stiff-armed by him like that.
01:08:36
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But he clocked some dudes in pass protection today. on I think it was Dobbs'... is' deep shot the the deep post play and i think one other one where he just stoned a couple guys in pass protection and i agree with you that that should count as taking souls so we well i don't know how else you would do it because i mean other than the stiff arm but i mean he leveled that guy yeah i couldn't believe it because as soon as i saw it i was like
01:09:08
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Me and Kawano is going to have an argument because that was stealing a soul. I have no argument. I completely agree with you. So,
01:09:18
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Everything's coming up roses for the Packers. There are... You know, they're off to a good start. We'll see how they do going into the short week. Like i said, we're going to have to track some of those injuries.
01:09:32
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01:09:43
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01:09:55
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01:11:01
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And Packers are 1-0 with a resounding win over the Lions. It's one toe-tap Isaac Tesla touchdown from being a laugher.
01:11:13
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So like we said, i think I give it an A, but they have room to go get that A-plus as the season goes along. But you don't want to be peaking this early. It's good that you get this good win to get the vibes off to a good rolling start.
01:11:27
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But there's a lot of things that can be coached up and ironed out as the season goes along. But for Iowa would Joe, that week, and I'm Mike, go pack go and aloha.