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Session 51 - CyHawk Dual and Black Knight Invite Recap
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Another session, now with video! We discuss the numerous outcomes from the Iowa v Iowa-State dual and the Black Knight Invite where several Penn St wrestlers competed. We also discuss just how far up the rankings Gable Steveson can pull the Minnesota Golden Gophers.
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Weekend Sports Highlights
00:00:08
Speaker
football this weekend, huh? Yeah, it was awesome. Did you like what you saw? rock I loved it. I realized a bit, except for, well, I didn't even watch the Indiana game. So also boomer. Dude. Okay. Yeah. So I, I was at a wrestling tournament. I didn't get the chance to watch the Indiana game, but I, I kept up with it and was happy and then sad and then progressively even sadder, but Me too. That's okay. That's okay. Um, they, they got knocked down to like, I think like 10th or 11th in the AP poll. But Alabama lost to Oklahoma, Texas A and&M lost to Auburn. Um, Ole Miss lost to Florida. Uh, BYU lost to Arizona state. Dude, Penn State almost lost. There were,
00:01:04
Speaker
Colorado lost to K Colorado lost to KU rock chalk, baby. There was There were there were a lot of upsets First time in history a first time in history this weekend Done by the KU and Jayhawks in NCAA history NCAA history that a losing that a losing team beat three top ranked top ten ranked teams in like in a row 25 trying find Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know why in my mind, I was like, surely after beating three ranked teams, they'll at least put them 25. But no, that doesn't make any sense. They did. They still have a losing record. I think Florida just got ranked. Maybe know that they're not ranked. Are they ranked? No. Army's 25th in Missouri is 24. You can order is ranked in the end of power. They're not. Who's that Florida? Florida is in the 25th in the power index. We're like 28 in the power index.
Wrestling Highlights & Predictions
00:02:03
Speaker
That's pretty good for a five and 16. Yeah. Well, Auburn is yeah also five and six and they're like right by us too. They had a pretty insane game. Four over times. I like college over time. That's fun to watch. I do too, yeah.
00:02:24
Speaker
Well, anyway, yeah. Welcome back to the barn session, everybody. We should, if everything goes the right way, we should have video. So we're doing that. We're doing video after 50 episodes. We're doing video. Yeah. Reese, you're being recorded right now. Oh, this is a terrible day for video. Why? I didn't get my beauty sleep. That's okay. Not acceptable. You're, you're turning the lights off. I didn't, yeah, I didn't fully fall asleep though. I'm just going to shut the lights off. No, give me a second guys. I'm just kidding. Okay. I really did not know where you're, I didn't know if you were going to or not.
00:03:05
Speaker
I didn't know where you're going with that. Uh, yeah. So football happens, but wrestling also happened as it always does every weekend. And there's a good, there's a good amount of upsets and and notable results. We had, we had the Psyhawk duel. We had some other really entertaining duels. Um, the, the Navy classic, which was kind of the Penn state wrestle off, see what things look like situation. Um,
00:03:35
Speaker
And I also have a proposal to you guys, and Ryan and I already kind of got into it a little bit about a team that I think has has put themselves as a top five team, maybe maybe a trophy team. So we can we can look at that. Later on in the episode, ah I mean, where do you guys wanna even get started? Let me just jump right into the- Sihawk, obviously. Sihawk, okay. ah Yeah, where to begin with this?
00:04:05
Speaker
I don't even know. Did anybody actually watch the duel? I watched snippets. I did not. I did not get the chance to was busy at the moment at the moment time, but Iowa beat Iowa State. um They won the duel 23 to nine. I think it a little bit worse than people were expecting it to be, but they were.
00:04:31
Speaker
I mean. 23 to Wasn't it? 23 to 15. 23 to nine. The only one, two, men no, that's wrong. I can't be right. I was stating. Oh, no no, no, no, no, no, no. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. youre My apologies. Hang on. Didn't I always say have 15? Yeah. I have the wrong. 21 to 21 to 15. My bad. I had the wrong tool pulled up. um Nothing felt like it went by the book, really.
00:05:01
Speaker
Uh, starting it off. Adrian Maza took out Kale Peterson. I think everybody was kind of expecting to see Tarekina and they would have, you know, Tarekina beating Kale Peterson. That makes sense. Um, but yeah, that's Maza's pass as well. I mean, obviously, right. Um, he had some, he had some wins in high school. Didn't he be Bassett in high school in Jack's Forest or one or the other? I don't know. He's got some wins. I have no idea.
00:05:33
Speaker
I mean, yeah, good good for him. And that was the right start to the duel that the Iowa state needed, no no matter who they put out there. um And then they had a chance to put away 33 as well. Evan Frost was was beating Drake Ayala going into the third period. But then Drake Ayala put on that Iowa pace and ah took took that match 11 to seven. And I think I don't know. How do you how do you feel how do you feel about Drake Ayala at 133 in the grand scheme of things? Well, that makes me think of him as a top six guy at least.
00:06:17
Speaker
um'm I'm really only interested in him being a title contender. Well, we didn't know where he was, you know, yeah going into this duel. Yeah. and And I kind of, you know, things were, I was obviously down on him a little bit because he just, he lost a tire Knox. Um, and Knox is good, but I wouldn't have, you know, put him in, in talk about beating guys like Nasir Bailey and, and, uh, Crookum, but I don't think he can crack the top two. I think a match with him. And I think Bailey is a good match for him. I'm interested in that Crookum. I don't know about Crookum.
00:06:57
Speaker
Yeah. What about Birdman? Birdman's a good word. I don't know. Do they duel each other? They'll see each other eventually. Almost certainly. ah Illinois, Iowa on January 17th. So we'll have our answer then.
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um
00:07:22
Speaker
Yeah, but I good win for Ayala. ah 141, this was, I don't know, I don't know if I want to call it a toss up, but za Zach Redding's been, he's been good for, and he's been good on the college team for a while. We still don't know. We're finding out match by match where writer block lands among the 141 landscape, but also kind of same situation with Zach Redding because.
00:07:49
Speaker
He was 133. So we'll see what this looks with, you know, the season looks like for both of them, but Reading has the advantage. The where things get really hairy and out of control is at the next match at 149. So. Uh, Parco wins four to three. Etchem NDS scored three points on a takedown. Parco had scored and a and an escape.
00:08:18
Speaker
and Was that it? Two escapes, right? Two escapes. Two escapes. A penalty point for for an illegal mat return and a a technical violation for locked hands. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So illegal mat return, what did he do? Leave his face or something? I think the arm was trapped on the mat return, I believe, is what the deal was. um Yeah.
00:08:45
Speaker
Echimendia. Echimendia didn't pick bottom. Right. And I think that's probably the right thing for him to do. Yeah, because he would have got toned. He would have gotten what? Toned. Toned? Yeah. No, not toned. Toned. Toned.
00:09:08
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, maybe, or just written out and just a period wasted. i I think the plan playing for for next time, if there is a next time against Parko, take him down, let him go. Catch and release. Cuz if he does that in this match, he's probably gonna win it. I think he i think he is defensive on his feet, defensively so sound enough to stop Parko. And maybe not anybody better than Parko.
00:09:43
Speaker
I think I would be able to I think i it's ah easier to I don't know not seeing not having seen the match Really have no idea how much better he was than parko with their feet He just got his he got to the body and he's strong when he gets to the body Mm-hmm. Yeah, I wonder though that parko ever get close to it like his attacks or I Again, I didn't see it but I I'd have my doubts um But thinking about the the greater scheme at 149, I think Echamandia is gonna have a hard time with Caleb Henson, Ridge Lovett, Shane Van Ness, even Ty Waters. I think those are, maybe not Ty, maybe he just blows through Ty Waters. I don't know. He's a bad matchup for Caleb Henson, in my opinion. Kent Henson, I will. He's not gonna get dogged by Henson. No, I think so. I don't think so. No. kind of dog Kind of hard to dog a Cuban.
00:10:43
Speaker
OK, I think. I wouldn't put it past the hit man, as they call him. But I just I mean, I think that in my mind, it's like Caleb Henson's in a tier up here. And I think he's right below that. I think that's the. So you would say Parko is a tier below that, too. Caleb Henson. Maybe maybe I am in Venice. Kyle Parko.
00:11:13
Speaker
Caleb Henson. We love it. in This and also. Yeah. Yeah. Next after that. Dude. All right. This is crazy. That's why is that crazy? I killed Henson. I mean, these are all just the islands. Are these are these all separate islands? Caleb Henson got drinking. Yeah. Caleb Henson beat. We just love it.
00:11:39
Speaker
Right. And Parker was in that tournament. He was like, oh, I'll be huge. Love it. He did. Mm hmm. Who beat Parker at NCAAs last year? Uh, Waters on the backside. And then on the front, Parker, Parker beat Waters, I thought, or yeah. Oh, you're right. they say Case
00:12:04
Speaker
K sack beat love it and then he beat waters third, right? So waters their fourth, right? And then yes waters beat parko To get into the third and fourth place match parko beat ridge love it for fifth and sixth Ridge love it lost a case in in the semis Or Caleb Benson Park on the front side Gomez Gomez beat him and then tie waters beat him on the backside And then he he beat rich parko beat ridge love it in fifth place. Yes OK, I would not put Parko above Henson.
00:12:41
Speaker
my I mean, maybe it's maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, but I think Caleb Henson is going to be an even better version of a guy who won a national title last year. I don't think anyone's beating Shane Venice. Period.
00:13:00
Speaker
That so that that can be true in what I said can also be true still, right? You don't think ridge love it is I feel like ridge love it That's a hard time seeing him get like decisively beaten by Van Ness or really anybody at this wave I see it I Don't know. Yeah van Ness isn't gonna get ridden Yeah, this is this has got the one of the most most interesting top tiers. I Out of all the weight classes. I think there's so much so many interesting matchups at this weight Get ready second semester gomez is going to come back with another year of eligibility. Yeah, shut up Who's he wrestled for? Campbell records Cable he said i'm i'm saving this school Yeah, good match
00:13:53
Speaker
Well, actually no. i I don't know what to think about 149. Is Campbell like a military school? I don't think so. I thought this. I thought it was. And I believe I was told. I believe I was told no. I was also told no. It's a private university. Private Christian University in Buies Creek, North Carolina. Interesting.
00:14:21
Speaker
OK. Very interesting. Keeping, keeping, keeping on track with this duel. One fifty seven to Corey Teamer has to injury default to Panera Johnson. What was what was the status of this match before that?
00:14:36
Speaker
Zero zero. Yeah, I mean, OK. I don't I guess there's probably not a lot we can we can figure out from all of it. Corey was injured as hamstring.
00:14:50
Speaker
and was seen on crutches. But Ryan said, you know, maybe that's a precautionary issue or just a precautionary measure. And and so we'll see. We'll see if we see him later on this year and and how late he comes back and how severe everything is and all that. There's no way of telling until we see it all. So he'll be back. Yeah.
00:15:10
Speaker
One sixty five. Probably a little bit of a surprise here. Michael Caliendo beats Connor. You nothing crazy about that. But it was a twelve seven decision. And I guess it was surprising. It was a ah tough, tough match. Right.
00:15:23
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um Yeah, it's kind of kind of impressive. Right. i Maybe Caliendo wasn't feeling so good that day. Maybe so. Caliendo. probably just feeling Maybe he's feeling a little sick.
00:15:40
Speaker
think ah I mean, youton he's, you know, one of his practice partners in the room is David Carr. So he's he's got good training partners along with everybody else on the on the roster. So moving on.
00:15:55
Speaker
Okay. 174, Aidan Riggins gets the tech fall. Aidan Riggins gets tech falled by Patrick Kennedy. Former teammate. and it is so So this was something I was wondering about. Did, was it like, oh yeah, Nelson Branson, he does be Aidan Riggins, but does Patrick Kennedy beat Aidan Riggins? Is that what's going on here? Yes. Okay.
00:16:15
Speaker
Exactly. That's exactly what I thought. I was like, Nelson can like, yeah, you you know, get a decision, maybe a major, but we know Patrick's going to just destroy it. You think Aiden was like out there on the mat and he saw he saw Patrick Kennedy run out. Is it? Oh, no. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Maybe. Yes. It was it. I mean, I think I think Kennedy had to you know He had to use every single second in the match to get the tech, but still, that's a good look. got it ah And yeah, 184, Angelo Ferrari makes his varsity debut. Richard's not pulled, but he goes out there and he wrestles, and he, I mean. two but again a what He wins 8-2, and I was kind of surprised by that. Because Bachman's good. I don't know if I would necessarily,
00:17:11
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know where I was surprised. I mean, I was surprised to see I was interested to see I was initially interested. Okay, what does Gabe Arnold Evan Bachman look like? You know, is Gabe Arnold able to get bonus? Spock been able to keep it close. And then Angela Ferrari goes out there. and I'm like, Okay, I feel like this might be a situation where, you know, a a very green college wrestler, you know, takes some lumps and maybe learns a lesson ah in one way or another.
00:17:38
Speaker
and in this match, but now he goes out there and he wins a two and it looked good. So no, Bachman got Carver. So did Aiden Reagans. And, and, and as well as Christian Carroll, he gets majored 10-0 by Steven Buchanan. That, that was bad. Um, I mean, I don't know what people think of when, when they look at Christian Carroll, I want to put them.
00:18:09
Speaker
I was like around a 12, low AA guy, but maybe that's too much. I don't know. Steven, he can do that to good guys. he I mean, if you look at how he did at the NCAA tournament, he spanked some of those guys. Who placed? Yeah, last year at NCAA is he majored Steven Little, ah majored Michael Beer, beat Tanner Sloan, 6'2", beat Jacob Cardenas, 9'4". So yeah, he definitely definitely can.
00:18:38
Speaker
Dude, he got pinned by Brooks last year. Brooks is good. Yeah, yeah, you're right. But man. That's crazy.
Iowa vs Iowa State Rivalry
00:18:50
Speaker
OK. And then finally, ah younger Bistida beats Ben Keter seven to two. And yeah, it's good to see younger back out on the mat and it's a good win to get under his belt, so.
00:19:06
Speaker
I'm excited to see that guy for the rest of the season. So, um, yeah, I think, I think if, uh, so what the, again, the final dual result is 21 to 15, but that's, that's really, pointing straight if Parco, if edge, Mindia beats Parco. And if somehow, if somehow some way Aiden Riggins just decides to not get tech fault in the final moments of the match.
00:19:34
Speaker
Iowa state wins that duel. So it was definitely something that was possible, especially with the eight. I mean, it took, it took to Corey team or injury defaulting in a match where he probably would have won. So that's, that's a nine point swing. Spotted six points. Still couldn't get the job done. Yeah. At this point, it's just insulting. It's just adding insult to injury. Yeah.
00:19:56
Speaker
yeah All right. Poor guy, poor dresser. I was in dresser gets on his little press conference dresser gets on his presser and he's like Oh, yeah, they've really built a good team. I don't know just throwing jabs It's like dude, you got transfers on your team do more other Hey, you know, I feel for dresser in this situation. I know what it's like to you know root for a team who can't seem to get over the hump of their rival
00:20:27
Speaker
You know, K-State, 16 straight games over KU. Similar to Iowa, Iowa State. So I feel for the guy. I mean, that's not, that's tough. Needs a sour taste in your mouth. It's really been that long. Yeah. I mean, and it's probably, how long has it been for Iowa State? Like 20 years? 20 years old. whenever Last time they did that, I was 16 years old. I remember it.
00:20:54
Speaker
and remember I remember listening to it on the radio. Are you talking like KU? Yeah. I'm sorry, I went to like 2009 or something. When when what happened? When KU beat K-State in football.
00:21:11
Speaker
And then so has it been 20 years or it has it been 20 duels since Iowa, Iowa state? And to do they only do it once a year? I don't know. I think it's, it's had to have been like, at least like 2007 or six is probably the last time I was state beat them in dual, right? At least Anderson in the lineup. Maybe. Yeah. Wow. Cause they definitely, weren't beat them they beat him after that too.
00:21:36
Speaker
know how state beast I Don't know if kale ever did beat Look it up. Yeah, im i'm looking up iowa Iowa state wrestling history. This ice cream is tearing me apart Relaxed histories did I just sometimes when I asked from late at night. It just does not agree with my tummy Okay, or it's something that that little toy did to my ice cream. I The last time that Iowa city or Iowa city, Iowa state be Iowa was in 2004, December 5th, 2004. They won 19 to 16 20 years. Yes.
00:22:21
Speaker
Well, 19 years. Who's on that team? 20? I don't know. I don't know. All I all I have is this is the dual result. How is that? No, 2004, 2004. I read the next one. Right. I don't have anything for you on on who is on that duel or what that looked like or anything. They didn't start doing recap until 2006. Jamie, look it up. Jamie, look that one up. OK. That's that duel.
00:22:50
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um
00:22:53
Speaker
Some other notable results over the weekend. In the Iowa or not, Iowa, in the Illinois, Missouri duel, Aiden Sinclair took out ah Zach Bronigal 16 to 10. Oh. um Didn't see that one coming. Yeah. And I believe, but I still believe Illinois won that duel. They did. Both protocols lost, though, right?
00:23:22
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, Keegan, I think Keegan might've gotten a major on, on Danny Bronigal, but the consensus was it's not fun wrestling Danny Bronigal, which personally, like I can vouch for. Ask her to wrestling academy is to know against Bronigal's in one goal. Elaborate on the unfun. They seem like a pleasant. They're losers, man. Pleasant, but they're losers. It's hard to tell. All right. The Illinois being deserved 23 to 14.
00:23:52
Speaker
Did you stop? You're funny, but come on. I'm not even being funny, bro. I'm being serious. What are you really being serious? Yeah. There's no way you're being serious. You don't look like, I don't know. Did you think that run? Did you think they were, I didn't think they were stand out. I don't think they're like aggressively stood out any more than the, the Bronicles.
00:24:17
Speaker
They're bruisers. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Compared to the average division one guy, are they any worse? I wouldn't think they were. I mean, it's kind of their style, I would say.
00:24:32
Speaker
Personally, I have not had fun. It reminds me of the Dardanes. Interesting. I think, see, I think of the Dardanes as much scarier.
00:24:44
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. i I don't know what to say about on that. But I mean, yeah, I personally after the match that I wrestled from against Danny Bronigold in college did not feel great afterwards after six minutes of it. It just dude, hard, hard hand fight ah grinding through every position. What? I think he pinned him. No, he attacked me at the end, right? He said six minutes. You said this was in high school?
00:25:12
Speaker
This was, no, this was freestyle at U 23 trials and in like 2021. I want to say yeah you wrestled him at Fargo too. Oh yeah. I, I checked him at Fargo, but that was when I was a sophomore, he was a freshman. So way back in the day. Um, he probably, that's probably why he was mean to you. Yeah. He's like, I've been waiting for years.
00:25:37
Speaker
Yeah, you know, he was you he definitely had a picture of you on his mirror and he just he said from six fighter You go down that was a terrible and try that again um go for it. Nope What's give me the best quote from that movie I just did from rocky 4 I Nope. Wrong. Right. Try again. Yeah. I don't know. Come on. how to Change. You can change. No change. Actually, that's a good one that's that's a good one. But for me, it's it's there is no tomorrow.
Wrestling Tournament Results
00:26:26
Speaker
Who says that Apollo Apollo, Apollo Creed before he goes out and dies in the ring. That wasn't good. Good.
00:26:35
Speaker
Good one, but that was not not as like iconic as the other one. What you just did? Yeah. ah Go ahead, Rhys, what are you talking about? Mr. Mr. Mackey? He does that. He doesn't, you know, whatever. He probably never seen the episode. No, I haven't. But yeah, back back to what we were talking about. Illinois takes out Missouri 23 to 14. Great duel. Who won between Steed and Skulls?
00:27:03
Speaker
I believe, yeah, Skulls won it via injury. oh umer i don't know what the I don't know what the match looked like before that, but yeah. ah Yeah, Keegan O'Toole, Major Danny Bronigold, Edmund Ruth took out. Oh, ah logan Logan Cole. I don't know who that is. Aiden Sinclair beat Zach Bronigold. Luke Luffman took out Kansas native Seth Nitzel. Good match. It's good to see.
00:27:30
Speaker
Seth Nitzel getting that opportunity to start and wrestle and he's, he's been ranked. So he's there only having to see in their, in their lineup. Really? What about Jared Stoner and Cole grip? Well, they must've just got added. Last time I looked, uh, he just Jamie your ass hard. Yeah. Thanks Jamie. He pulled that up so fast.
00:27:58
Speaker
that's That's what my job is at this point, so. That's what we paid. Yeah, definitely. um Along with that, another one, Rutgers and Virginia Tech, they dueled each other. I'm trying to pull up the duel result right now, but probably the most notable result individual matchup wise is Rutgers' Shane Cartagena Walsh taking out TJ Stewart five to one.
00:28:29
Speaker
Stewart ah seemingly choosing to have a slow start to the season. Yeah, I agree. after um After looking really good at NCAA's in my opinion. Right. yeah so Yeah, so Virginia Tech won this duel 26 to 11. We didn't see ah Dean Peterson, Eddie Ventresca took out Aiden Smith.
00:28:54
Speaker
um but Man, who is, oh, no, no. Who's Virginia Tech's 33 pounder? Last year, oh, it was Latona. So it's not... Cooper Flynn. No, he's gone. No, Flynn's flinns at Minnesota now. Connor McGonagall. Oh, it is, right? It's who? Okay. Connor McGonagall. Yeah, he's there 33. So we he didn't wrestle. Dylan Shabir wrestled their back up.
00:29:22
Speaker
Um, Latona beat Joey Olivieri, but also Latona lost to, uh, later on this week, he lost to Evan Magu, Maguallian? Mo, Mo, Magallian. Five to one. So Latona having his regular season losses, I guess. Um,
00:29:45
Speaker
Lenny Wolock took out Jackson Turley. Andy Smith took out John Poznanski, Slavikowski beats jim Jimmy Mullen and in sub victory. So I think we're starting to see ah who the the tier two, maybe tier three guys are. Probably, I guess we gotta say like tier one is Gable Steveson, tier two is Hendrickson, Kirk, and Schultz maybe? And then tier three is so many other people. I got a confession to make. Go ahead. I gotta i gotta use the bathroom.
00:30:17
Speaker
All right. See you soon. You suck is bad.
00:30:25
Speaker
I don't need to know. I don't need to know the severity, but whatever. In the meantime, let me just run through some of these results. ah Zach Ryder today took out Brian Saldano. This is what we're going to see from from Brian Saldano, I think all year long. He's going to have surprising wins, have surprising losses, be up and down throughout the rankings the entire time. It's just what we're going to see.
00:30:52
Speaker
um We talked about Ferrari taking out Bachman, Hayden Drury beat, he's from Utah Valley, he beat Chiarini, 5-0. That looks, that's a pretty good result. Antonio Lorenzo of Oklahoma taking out Jory Volk, 3-2. Yesterday, Danny Wask at the Navy Classic takes out Lenny Pinto, 10-5. That's a good win.
00:31:20
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um
00:31:23
Speaker
What's up, Brian? Nothing. I was just for you. I'm waiting for you. All right. Good to know. Good to know. um
00:31:33
Speaker
Santaniello from Pitt takes up Malink Heinz, which at this point for me, that's this is this is the last sign that I need to put Stanich in. um I don't know what the what the thought is, what the what people in the Lehigh wrestling room, what their their what's determining. Hey, I want to do this. I want to do that. I want to do the other thing. But man.
00:31:54
Speaker
I think that's, I think Standitch at this point is becoming like a 10, 12, maybe 15 point increase and in how you do it in CAAs. So I think it might be worth it, but I don't know. Ryan, what do you think? Yeah, I think especially with Nathan Taylor, like being injured, it might be, you know, something worth looking at, at least, you know what I'm saying?
00:32:19
Speaker
Right. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the Nate Taylor injury sucks. It's interesting and I guess good for them that they got Owen Treffin in somehow. I would love, I would love for somebody to explain to me both how Treffin did what he did with this whole NC state to Lehigh thing and how Gable Stevenson is able to wrestle first semester. Well, I'll explain Gable Stevenson right now.
00:32:44
Speaker
Ready? Go, go for it. Go for it. 2019 he wrestles. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. Good. Good. Good. Second place. Right. Okay. Okay. That's one year. 2020 he wrestles. That's another year. 2021 free year. Okay. Yes. 2022 he wrestles. Yes. All right. 2023 he does not. He red shirts.
00:33:16
Speaker
2024 he does not he olympic red shirts correct so 2025 senior year correct but i thought you had to be enrolled he is enrolled so when did he so he must have enrolled and have late start classes interesting don't you it so so is there no there's no concern about like time to grab like on track to graduate, a number of credits he's taken. or So they must have just had all of these boxes checked off somehow. Yep, it gets as good as mine, Sam. Interesting. Okay. All right. A duel I want to I want to go over quickly. I think this one happened. Yeah, this one happened today. ah South Dakota State, Northern Iowa, this
00:34:10
Speaker
This one might have been duel of the, um, duel of the weekend, possibly. I don't know. I mean, he's the Scihawk duel. yeah It's hard to get over the fanfare of that, but, but I mean, so this was a 15, 15 duel that I believe Northern Iowa won on criteria.
00:34:29
Speaker
um Tanner Jordan wins in sudden victory. ah Corey Land takes out Derek Cardinal, 9-7. Kayl Hapel beats Julian Tag. Colin Dupill beats Adam Allard. And then Ryder Downey is wrestling Kobe Seabreck. Wins that one eight to one. ah Drake Rhodes takes out Jack Thompson, 12-7. Kaye DeVos and Jared Simba, great match. ah DeVos wins it seven to six. ah Parker Kekkeisen and Bennett Berge, that's a phenomenal matchup. Kekkeisen wins it eight three, but that's, I mean,
00:35:01
Speaker
If you wanna talk about just two guys that are great at wrestling and being able to watch them wrestle each other, that's a great matchup right there. Zack Glaser takes out Wyatt Volker, 4-3, and Lance Runyon beats Luke Rasmussen, 7-2. So this, I mean, back and forth, two very energetic And ah I think very fun teams, very very energetic fan bases. So I'm sure that this was a ah great duel and one that the fans enjoyed. Pittsburgh actually beat Lehigh today. would you think Wow. I mean, I figured Lehigh would have won, but looking at it now, I mean,
00:35:48
Speaker
Yeah, there were, there were three upsets 41, 49 and 57 all upsets. Um, yeah. And I guess, I'm guessing we won't see trefin until next semester. Yeah. that That is what I read as well. Yeah. Okay.
00:36:10
Speaker
All right. But I mean, yeah, Santaniello beating Heinz, Finn Solomon beating Kelvin Griffin and Dylan Evans beating Logan Rosinski at 41 49 and 57 respectively. That, that completely turns everything around. Um, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess, I guess, I mean, it's still an upset, but this Pittsburgh team, they're salty. So that's good. You don't think they're very peppery.
00:36:37
Speaker
Maybe a little peppery, peppered, maybe, a little bit. I don't know. I think that is all I have for those results. We can talk quickly about the,
00:36:55
Speaker
not the Navy classic, but the Black Knight invite that happened today. A lot of people, you know, their main focus on what happens in this duel is, or that not this duel, this tournament is the Penn State wrestlers that are there and how they will do against their own teammates. So to go through that, Luke Liladol took out Kurt McHenry eight to two in the semis, Liladol goes on to win it, and McHenry goes on to take third. At 133, Ethan Bergen from Army wins the tournament ae pretty pretty solidly.
00:37:30
Speaker
but a good performance out of Tekio Davis from Gardner Web, taking out Gary Steen and Tristan Luhan, so. Good, uh, good matches there. Uh, Bo Bartlett, he had a tough match, uh, in round two in the quarters against Joe Fungaro from Rutgers won that one four to one, but, uh, in sudden victory, uh, after that gets a tech fall and a, uh, pin in the finals and wins one 41.
00:38:05
Speaker
149 Shane van Ness gets tech fall, major decision. Whoa. Sorry. Tech fall, major decision, decision. And then tech fall in the finals. Uh, for Rutgers, Andrew Clark took out Michael Chetta. Good little roster battle going on there. I'm sure dude, wait a minute. Andrew Clark at 149. I wrestled him two years ago, three years ago. He's cut down. Wow.
00:38:34
Speaker
That's kind of crazy. Um, one 57. This was, this was the, the weight that a lot of people were looking at. Tyler K SAC and Alex. condo They both make the finals. K SAC gets the only take down and he wins five to two kind of just looks like the guy. Um, I know there was reports about the Russell off and how it went, but with K SAC winning at the all-star classic and then winning this matchup here, I'm guessing we'll be seeing him making the starting lineup.
00:39:04
Speaker
I think they'll keep him in red shirt.
00:39:10
Speaker
Maybe, wait, can they can they? I don't think they can even do that anymore. Why? Because he's wrestling. He's wrestling it's like he's he's w restling attached. He's not a freshman anymore. You can't can't do that. How do you know he's wrestling attached? Because it it says Penn State. It doesn't say Penn State unattached. And he's wrestling in a Penn State singlet.
00:39:31
Speaker
um um um And and and what I put the things that I have heard is that he is a guy who wants to go He wants to he believes he can win this year. He wants to go and wrestle so if facunddo beats him again the later ah Then then Fukundo is gonna be the guy and and you know, it's Sucks sucks for for k-sac. He thought he could be the guy and he maybe he's right. Maybe he's wrong so Only one way to find out One way or another we're gonna find out Where's Reese? Um, I'm guessing he's fighting demons right now. Uh, one 65 Mitchell mes and brink getting four tech falls. Uh, only one match went to the third period. Yeah, that's a scary dude.
00:40:24
Speaker
That's a scary dude. Levi Haynes makes the finals, ah does not wrestle his teammate Matt Lee in the finals. They call it good after that. Same at 184. Carter Storachi and Zach Wright make the finals, and then they call it good. I think you can kind of determine from both of those who is going to be the guy. Meanwhile, 197, Lucas Cochran.
00:40:45
Speaker
Uh, he's got Josh Barr in the finals. Josh Barr had to take out teammate Connermere soul in the semis. Uh, and then Barr in the finals takes out Lucas Cochran 10 to one. So very decisively putting himself as the almost certain to be the starter. My question is, is, is this Cochran's last year? Uh, no, I believe he's only a junior. If he's only a junior, what are the chances we see him transfer next year?
00:41:16
Speaker
Uh, probably likely. Where do you think he would go? Where's he from? Um, I think he's an in-state PA guy. I think he's, he might even be from like Lehigh Valley. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you had to guess where he's from, where would you say he's from? Nebraska. Michigan. Utah.
00:41:42
Speaker
Hmm. Utah Valley. Yep. Lucas Cochran. Yeah. He might just go right back to Utah. Don't know. Time will tell. Or he'll go to Okey State. Or he'll go to Okey State. That one? Maybe. I don't think so, but maybe. And then at heavyweight, KirkVleet takes out or makes his way to the finals and then no contest between him and Cole Mirasola.
00:42:14
Speaker
Um, yeah, those were the results, but I have one thing. One last thing I want to mention. Uh, I think Minnesota is a top five team. I think they might even be trophy contenders. I think that they can, they have a, you know, pretty solid shot at competing, uh, with in duels with guys like Iowa and Oklahoma state. I want to hear if maybe I'm kind of crazy for the first saying that.
00:42:43
Speaker
grace you first ah So I think um Before Gable came back. I had a bunch of their guys On the fringe in like round 12 getting rounded 12 points So I only had them winning or earning 15 points or 10 points so with Gable back I gave them 25 extra points. It's a 35 points 35 total but I mean so like that's with like Flynn, Wells, Vombar, Whiting, and McInally all either finishing in the round of 12 or round of 16. Where do you have Salazar? Oh, yeah, Salazar. I think, yeah, I don't even have him in there. OK. Because I didn't realize he was back. I guess I forgot to add him in there. But yeah I don't know where I put him. It's 97, so he could be anywhere from third or round of 24.
00:43:43
Speaker
I think, man, I don't know. say Saying all those guys being round to 12, I don't know. Wells and Bombard, those guys, I don't feel like can
Wrestling Evolution & Dynamics
00:43:55
Speaker
AA again, or Bombard AA. I don't, Wells, did he make the round 12? Is that what Wells did? I think Wells was around a round to 12 guy last year. Let me get confirmation on that. Yeah, round to 12 last year. He lost to Frost, to one.
00:44:11
Speaker
I'm not sure that they will be able to repeat repeat that maybe we'll see Okay. Okay, but then whiting it back and I think those dudes are I think those guys could be really good Dude,
00:44:27
Speaker
hundred did wells loose to in the round tweth i dude honestly, it's in the past. It's all I know. Okay um Yeah, I I would be, I'm probably the most excited to see where Max McNelly can can ah place himself amongst the top level competition at 184. I think he could probably pretty easily put himself in that All-American contention.
00:44:53
Speaker
ah McNelly 184 pounder. ah I don't know too much really about what it's gonna look like for Tommy Askey or Clayton Whiting. I know they're both transfers from app state in Missouri. ah Sparks has been man, it feels like things he like started out super high. At the beginning of his college career, and then it just feels like things have been up and down ever since then, going literally going up and down in weight classes, he's had injuries, he's been all over the place, if he can put things together this year.
00:45:24
Speaker
um Maybe, maybe he's an all American guy, but not wrong with the idea that a lot of these guys are around 12 guys. And I think they're going to need, uh, like probably at least three, but probably four A's to yeah do a trophy. Yeah. I think, I mean, so as much as I hate to say, I was drinking the Gable Kool-Aid Sammy.
00:45:53
Speaker
I said this before they even made the announcement. I texted you guys about this before they made the announcement about Gables. tea I was like, dude, they have, they had 10 guys ranked. I'm like, this is, a this is a solid team and they have guys who can, who have room to move up in their, in their weight classes. And that can still be the case.
00:46:10
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back
00:46:14
Speaker
I'm just kidding. I'm sorry. that could that could That could still be the case for for guys like Cooper Flynn, um Andrew Sparks, McAnally, and I mean, they have Salazar at ninth right now. I don't really know. Why do they have him at ninth? He took sixth last year. I guess this is Russell's stats, so I don't know what to... Well, I mean, think about it. Where was the end ninety seven he I mean, Ferrari's back. No, he was at 84 last year. He was at 84 last year, so that must be good.
00:46:44
Speaker
Ferrari's uh Yeah, Ferrari's back. Let's be real 97, you know Crap shoot It is a crapshoot. So so the 97 right now from on the wrestlestack rankings It's Buchanan Cardenas Elam Ferrari beard little Munoz Bronigal Salazar Glaser Sounds I was gonna fit right in with the rest of those guys. He felt like a 97 pounder even when he was at 184 I Right. i I was kind of, I was messing myself up reading 84 and. I didn't realize i yeah if you would have asked me, I would have probably said that he's been 97 this whole time. He looks like what? Yeah. I mean, russ I think, I think, you know, until we see Rocky Elam, I'm a little worried about his health. Uh, Trey Munoz, I can't tell if he's going to be really good at 97 or if he's just going to be too small. Don't know what to think about that. And then another guy.
00:47:40
Speaker
who I don't know how to I don't know how to gauge him is the crap. What's his name? um The Camden McDaniel for Nebraska. Yeah, I don't know where to put him. He's a he's a U-17 world team member, I believe. And I think he made a U-20 team, didn't he? It was it was one or the other. I cannot remember. But he
00:48:13
Speaker
Justin? I think he's injured.
00:48:20
Speaker
Okay, I didn't know. I was just wondering. He hasn't wrestled yet. i Well, he had the, didn't he have the whole hand thing at Worlds? Or was that Singleton two years ago? I I can't remember now. That might have been Singleton. um think I think Rademacher might be, maybe maybe we'll see him second semester, I don't know.
00:48:43
Speaker
Um, but no, I mean, I, I think, I think Minnesota and, and is there some Gable Kool-Aid with it? Sure. You can say that, but I think I just, I don't know, man. Um, it's, I want somebody, to see them yeah yes, it would be cool. Yeah. Just to but put new life into this top five area.
00:49:06
Speaker
When I started getting into college wrestling in the early 2010s, Minnesota was a pretty like, I mean, obviously they were like a perennial powerhouse kind of team. I mean, they almost won a couple of titles in those years. That year, basically the year where Penn State took took off and and like they they were like, well well, whoever wins this year, we'll give it to them.
00:49:28
Speaker
um And like the title content, the title contenders were Ohio State, Missouri, um, and Minnesota. Like that, that was one of that, that has to be one of my more favorite NCAAs just from the experience of, you know, keeping track and, and, and, you know, every, so it felt like so many of the matches mattered, um, with that context in mind. I remember those days. Those were the good old days back before, uh,
00:49:58
Speaker
Big Daddy Kale. Penn State bought Boardwalk and Park Place and put hotels down and decided that everybody's just going to have to pay way too much rent. Nobody gets to have fun on Monopoly anymore. We're in the end game. You know, it's you know yeah that's kind of rude to Monopoly. Monopoly is a lot more fun than the current game status.
00:50:21
Speaker
It do you think so? It because like, but as far as the team race goes, it just sucks, man. Yeah, it does. It sucks. I mean. Because it doesn't even feel like anything can be done about the top three. But maybe that's wrong. I mean, I think I think things can change between Iowa and Ohio or Oklahoma State and.
00:50:49
Speaker
Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Ohio State's the number four team. I feel like, I don't know. We'll see how they. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like with Penn State, it's the only team where you really feel like even with some crazy changes, like potential injuries and stuff, it feels like um it's inevitable. Right. Yeah.
00:51:12
Speaker
Yeah. ah So I'm looking at wrestle stat and they have Ohio state there at third, but they also have like, they have Carson Hartula placing on one 74 and Sammy Sasser taking second at one 65. What? Those are going to be some stretches. Why? I guess. So he's number two on what on internet?
00:51:35
Speaker
wresselstat ah wrestle which is like, I don't really know how they do their stuff. I mean, I'm guessing it's all calculated. It's all math. Um, but I don't know how the math necessarily suggests Sammy Sasso second. I don't know how you would do that. Well, I mean, makes sense. Meanwhile, some um some more relatively accurate rankings ah from Intermat Penn State at 121 and a half points.
00:52:05
Speaker
Without bonus. Or how they do they do they calculate with bonus? I can't remember. I don't think Intermat calculates bonus. Iowa at second was 76 and a half. And then shortly thereafter, Nebraska at third with 70 and a half. Oklahoma State at 16 and a half. So Nebraska is up in there. Minnesota is now up in the top five area. Virginia Tech is in sixth. South Dakota State in seventh. so You know, that's, that's good to see Michigan and Ohio state are down at 11 and 12. You know, they've, they've always been up there for the, for the last couple of years. And so it's, you know, for them to kind of drop back a little bit, some, some other guys to to come into that top 10 area. That's nice. Where, where's NC states at 20th? I guess they are having, they're having a little bit of a conundrum. and So it feels like Virginia Tech has taken over right now in the ACC.
00:53:03
Speaker
I don't think they're going to win the duel though. I feel like somehow it's going to still win. Yeah. I mean, it's easy. It has a good dual team, but so did the attack. Let's see. Let's see what the, uh, what? Oh, no. What? You don't want to see what, what wrestle stats guy going on? Oh, what are you, what, what do you mean? I thought you were going to go down the lineups and well, so I mean, you can do dual comparison on wrestle stat race. That's cool.
00:53:32
Speaker
Yeah. NC state, Virginia tech. Let's take a look here real quick. Um, final results. They have Virginia tech winning 19 to 13. So that's, that's a, that's a one match swing. Yeah. Um, but they, I mean, it's this is the thing about restaurants that they got Jimmy Mullen taking out Isaac Trumbull. I don't know about that. Um, and at this point, I don't know about TJ Stewart taking out Dylan Fishback.
00:53:59
Speaker
Um, Lenny Wolak over Matt Singleton. That makes sense. Mac Church, Derek Fields. Where is... Oh, no, no, no. No, that's right. That's right. Okay. Uh, Ed Scott, Rafael Hippolito. That's a good match. This is going to be such a... Koi Biskins and Caleb Henson. This is going to be a good duel. I'm excited about this one. Kyrenia and Sam Latona up at 141. Uh, if...
00:54:25
Speaker
If, now this is kind of a big if, if Jacob Camacho is up at 133 and healthy, which he was, he did bump up in what ah to 133 this weekend, but he had an injury default and I think he needed help getting off the mat. Um, but him, Camacho and McGonagall, that's a really good match. Vincent Robinson and Eddie Ventresca. That's a banger of a duel. Banger.
00:54:46
Speaker
I, the ACC has probably got like the best, like in conference competition for the size that they are. There's only 16 there. I guess there's more now Stanford's in there, right? Correct. So there's seven, seven, eight teams now, or is it only seven in wrestling? I don't know either way. That's some good stuff in C state, Virginia tech, North Carolina, Duke, Stanford.
00:55:17
Speaker
Virginia. Virginia. Come on. Six. Nope. Nope. Pit. Pit. Pit. I always forget pit. You always forget about the pit, man. It's because they're kind of like far away except for, you know, now Stanford is super far away, but that's because Stanford's like an outlier. Pit's like, you know, far away, but like not like super far. You know what I'm saying?
00:55:43
Speaker
Yeah, that's Pitt's hidden. Stanford's so far away that it's obvious, but Pittsburgh's just far enough away for it to be like, wait, there's another team, but what is it? I get what you're saying, right? All right. Uh, Ryan is checked out and on his phone. re I'm sorry.
Sports Banter & Closing Remarks
00:56:02
Speaker
I was checking fantasy. I am ah absolutely destroying Zach Hensley right now in fantasy. Ah,
00:56:09
Speaker
Great. 131, 120. That's nine points, man. yeah That doesn't seem like it is you're destroying him. Well, I have Zae Flowers left. I'm projected 153. He's projected 127. OK. Zae Flowers won today. Are you happy about that? Of course. Who wouldn't? Man, somehow the Bears snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against the the Vikings of all teams. That would have been a good win for them, but. Nope.
00:56:39
Speaker
I guess they decided they didn't want to do that. What about Carolina? The Panthers? Yeah, they almost beat the Chiefs, dude. They took them to overtime. They didn't go to overtime, I don't think. Did it? Yeah. No, no, no. Didn't go to overtime. Nope. Nope, wrong. I thought Carly told me it went to overtime. I was driving, so I didn't get it. Carly, well, Carly was wrong, so.
00:57:03
Speaker
Uh, no, it was 30 to 27. Good to see the chiefs deciding to score a lot of points, but just don't give up so many next time. Yeah. What the heck, Steve? I have your defense on both my fantasy teams and you only scored me two effing points. Steve Spagnola. I was trying to figure out who you were talking about. Steve. Steve. Dude, did you guys watch the Thursday night football game?
00:57:28
Speaker
No, no. Two things, two things. one it So it started out as like a light snow, like a little, little gust, little breeze of some of that powder. I saw the interviews on the social media. The James Winston interview? Yes, all of them. Dude, I love that guy. He's great. I didn't know about him until I remember seeing something about him when he was with, I think it was the Saints, right? He used to be with the Saints? Yes. All right.
00:57:58
Speaker
Uh, but then when, when, uh, Deshaun Watson got injured and he got brought on, he, man, it's kind of hard to root against him personally, but maybe there's something I don't know. I think it's awesome. Even though I kind of, I kind of like to cheer for the Steelers, then beating the Steelers 24 to 19. Good for the Browns. It was good to see that happen. Who would ever root for the Browns?
00:58:24
Speaker
Probably people that live in Ohio. not maybe right Not even people who live in Ohio. Oh, for James Winston. I like James. Yeah. Why not, Reese? Because brown is a smelly color.
00:58:42
Speaker
Okay. Just like Cleveland smelly. Brian, you still checking your fantasy team. What's going on? over that I have two teams, brother. Put that, put that phone out. You've been on that thing for 15 minutes. Yeah. I was, I was looking deep into the numbers. you your fra Next week. I'm a dude i'm always going to, I'm trying to win two championships this season and I have a shot at doing it. I have two good teams. All right, man. Good for you.
00:59:10
Speaker
I'm amazing at this stuff. I'm genuinely happy that you're there. It is really good at fantasy football. You can't deny that. What's your screen time on your fantasy football app? Go F yourself, Sammy Cogley. All right. All right. All right. That makes sense. Okay. Final closing thoughts. Anything?
00:59:35
Speaker
Yeah, worked down I hate race kids who work at Dairy Queen great um wrote down the duel for iowa versus minnesota can you read mouse you read this no dude We've never been able to read that whiteboard and we never will I thought you guilty to this i Just need to get a ah real camera. This is what I need Yeah, that'll fix it. All right
01:00:05
Speaker
Peterson vs Flynn, who wins? Why are we doing this? Just tell me. Just entertain him. You entertain him. You're the only one who needs you. I say Flynn. Why? Because Sammy's already done it. Sammy says Flynn. All right, Reese? Flynn. OK, me too. Ayala Wells. Sammy? I'm going to say Ayala. Ayala. Yes, OK, me too. Block, Von Barr.
01:00:34
Speaker
bombard Bombard.
01:00:39
Speaker
Ooh, hesitation. I'm saying bombard as well. Yeah. But I mean, I do think by then that block. By the time the duel happens, block does have a better shot at beating him than he does right now. Does that make sense? Yeah, this. So this duel is scheduled for February 14th. And yeah, if writer block has something that he's just got to figure out and he's able to figure it out by then, this is a really good match. I think walk has a really high ceiling. So he does. I just he's got to find it, I guess. re What did you say? Block or bomb bar? No bar. OK. OK. Parker Roberts. I'm going Parker.
01:01:19
Speaker
Pretty easily. Probably. There's good chance for bonus in that match. Teamer asking. Teamer this. I. There's so a lot of time passes, obviously, right? If this duel happened next week, you're probably going to assume that Teamer doesn't wrestle, right? But if Teamer is healthy and he goes out there and he wrestles, he's going to win this match. Is he going to win it by bonus? I don't know necessarily. If he's totally fine, there's there's a chance he can do that for sure.
01:01:47
Speaker
I'm going to go with Teamer because it makes the most sense. If he's out there and he's wrestling, he's probably going to be able to win a match against Tommy Askey. So. Yeah. Teamer. There you go. Caliendo Sparks.
01:02:04
Speaker
Caliendo. So these these guys have wrestled three times in the past and it has been a Caliendo has won all three of them, two to one, five to two, eleven to ten. Like I said before, if Caliendo can get back to that that ceiling that he's found before, maybe it looks competitive, but probably not. Caliendo. You're talking about sparks. your sparks can Sparks. Yeah, if sparks can get to that ceiling that he's found before, then yes, but probably not. Caliendo is going to be the guy that wins. Caliendo.
01:02:39
Speaker
All right. And so for 74, 84, we're going Kennedy Ferrari mainly because they're the last two that wrestled. I don't I still don't follow that. I mean, for me at 174, it doesn't matter. You put out you put out Kennedy, you put out Nelson or they're both they're both 74. Gabe could go 74. Sure. You put out all three of those guys. They're all probably going to be Clayton Whiting. I'll get I'll say that clean stuff, though.
01:03:09
Speaker
Clayton's tough. It's not going to be ah a pushover this year. Who did he beat? He beat someone tough this year. Yeah. I can't remember who his one was. Uh, he's beaten. Oh, Lenny Wolek. He got pinned by Lenny Wolek. And then he lost 11 to nine to Miles Takats. He has not gotten a good win this year. Then I'm thinking of the Missouri kid. I get them confused sometimes.
01:03:33
Speaker
Okay. Uh, but yeah, whoever Iowa wins 174 probably Ferrari. I would go to Magnelly. I'm going to fry. You cannon Salazar. Can't be too sure of this one on this one. You cannon just can't how?
01:03:57
Speaker
future sure What do you mean? What is Salzard on a 197? Salzard, well, give him time. Good goodness. It's the beginning of the season. um And I'll tell you what he hasn't done. He hasn't gotten taken down by Munoz yet. So.
01:04:15
Speaker
There's that, uh, it's yeah probably going to be Buchanan, but this is a good match. And I think it's one, this in 74 that this in 33 are the matches where you got to look and you got to say, we Minnesota needs to win this match. Peter Steve's. Uh, Steve's in bonus, possibly tech. Oh no.
01:04:44
Speaker
You think just really tight can Dolly, I think, I think there's major bound about tech fall. I think there's two guys that Steve's in might not tech this year.
01:04:59
Speaker
Maybe three, maybe with Schultz too. I think Peter, I think Peter can hold his own. How does that against Muslim? I mean, I'm not saying he can beat the guy or, you know, can't hold it to decision, but I definitely don't think he'll get tech fault.
01:05:16
Speaker
So, but anyway, I have it seven, three Iowa and you guys have it six for Iowa. Yeah. So one of those matches flips and Steve's and gets his bonus point win. That's a, that's a win from Minnesota, which nobody had penciled down, but also Gable's thesis wasn't in the conversation. So that's the only reason that any of this is possible. And I see that I fully get it. I understand. Iowa would definitely get bonus points at 49 probably.
01:05:48
Speaker
probably that's that there and or 65 are the places you look for it 74 Kennedy I don't think it I don't I don't think it's that much of a I think it's more likely to see it at 49 and or 65 than it is 74 I agree what I'm saying 74 can do it he just did it Yeah, but that was different levels of competition. Aiden Riggins and Clayton Whiting, I would not put in the same tier. Not even close. Clayton Whiting's already been pinned by. He's already, you know, he's already- Yeah, pinned by Lenny Wolek. We know Lenny Wolek is able to do to hit feet to back type. Kennedy would destroy Lenny Wolek.
01:06:30
Speaker
I don't know if I agree with that, but- Yes, you would. I mean, we might not we might not ever see. Okay. All right. um
01:06:40
Speaker
We good. We want to wrap it up. I'm going to get out of here. Oh, let's Ricky wrap it up. Yeah, let me rephrase my my earlier statement about Dairy Queen. Dairy Queen, just stop hiring kids. That's, you got to stop hiring these 15 year old kids and leaving them completely and totally unsupervised late nights at your restaurants. Just no more, no more of that because you don't know what these kids are doing. They can't be trusted. Let me offer you account like let let me offer you a counterpoint, Reese.
01:07:11
Speaker
Don't go to Dairy Queen late at night. I want ice cream, and the only time you eat ice cream is late at night. So I don't know what to tell you there. yeah know And I don't plan ahead, Sammy. OK. I just go by what I'm feeling. Sonic? Sonic, yeah, they're just ice cream is just not that good. OK. All right. And it's also just kids there, I'm assuming. Probably. And you definitely don't know what's going on in those kitchens.
01:07:40
Speaker
You can't see nothing going on in those kitchens. Please, Dairy Queen, please stop hiring teenagers to work in your stores. I hate them. They make my stomach hurt. Dude, okay, I'm just gonna say this right now. I have never had, I can't think of a time Ice Cream has ever done what it just did to me.
01:08:00
Speaker
So I don't know. It's really quite go at the coincidence. What if it was whatever you ate earlier today? I don't know. ah Well, the ice cream just obviously was the tipping point. OK, I don't know. This is not a very common. It's a pretty rare thing for me to have a reaction like that.
01:08:25
Speaker
i can Okay, I can't remember another time my dream is fuck me. I'm so bad before No, I didn't say that right come on language language did yeah language my bad Family friendly here messed me up so bad has messed me up so bad
01:08:43
Speaker
All right, the end. Yep. The end, right? We're good. Okay. Thank you everybody for listening to the podcast as long as everything goes well and goes the way it should. You might you'd be seeing our faces this episode. Um, and if you do, cool. Um, yeah. All right, let's get out of here. Thanks for listening. Have a good day.