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S1 E45 Preston Dennett - UFO Researcher, Ghost Hunter, Out-of-Body Explorer and Author
24 Plays22 days ago
This week was an absolute delight when I spoke to UFO Investigator Preston Dennett.
From being a diehard sceptic to a renowned MUFON Investigator, Preston has been investigating UFOs for 30+ years.
He talks about his many experiences, from having a UFO stop in front of his car, to missing time, to being abducted by aliens.
We spoke about verifying the credibility of witnesses in UFO cases, the Roswell incident, and how he wishes that the UFO research was Government funded.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction of Preston Dennett
00:00:12
Lee Hatfield
Hello everybody and welcome to the latest episode of SEPA Paranormal Chronicles. Tonight I am talking to an icon.
00:00:23
Lee Hatfield
I have watched this gentleman on many, many shows. I am absolutely fascinated by some of his stories. This man is Preston Dennett.
00:00:33
Lee Hatfield
He is a UFO researcher, a ghost hunter, an out-of-body explorer, the author of more than 30 books. and he has written another 100 articles on UFOs and the paranormal.
00:00:47
Lee Hatfield
Preston, welcome!
00:00:49
PRESTON DENNETT
Thanks, great to be here, I appreciate it.
00:00:53
Lee Hatfield
say There are some people in this kind of environment that I consider icons. And because I've seen so many shows with you on, in my eyes, you are an icon, my friend. You really are. like I'm fascinated by what you have to say.
00:01:14
PRESTON DENNETT
thanks very much. I have been doing this for a long time, so but I'm having fun.
00:01:19
Lee Hatfield
That's the main thing. That's the main thing.
From Skepticism to Belief
00:01:21
Lee Hatfield
Okay, question. If we can start at the very beginning of how you got involved with UFOs, and then we'll take it from there.
00:01:32
PRESTON DENNETT
Yeah, it's actually pretty interesting because I was not looking for this. i came into this field incredibly skeptical, a diehard skeptic. I was absolutely sure that UFOs were the products of hoaxes, hallucinations, misperceptions, mental illness.
00:01:51
PRESTON DENNETT
Turns out that's what our governments really want us to believe. Spent an enormous amount of time, money and the energy to put that forth. And it's not true. So I got a real wake-up call in 1986. I can pinpoint the exact date, actually, November 17.
00:02:09
PRESTON DENNETT
Did not believe in ghosts, life after death, none of it. And on the news came this report about a gentleman, a pilot, Captain Kenji Torochi, who had seen a UFO over Alaska.
00:02:23
PRESTON DENNETT
Not only him, his entire crew. He was the pilot of a Japanese commercial airliner. And it was really an incredible story. The news report was very short, very joking, Italian cheek.
00:02:37
PRESTON DENNETT
Just kind of laughed at this pilot and moved on. did show his picture, though, and I'll never forget it. I'm thinking to myself, this pilot is crazy. is and don't think he's lying. Maybe he saw a reflection off the ice cap. I'm kind of coming up with these ridiculous explanations in my own mind.
00:02:56
PRESTON DENNETT
to account for what he saw, which was two massive craft, which basically followed his airplane for almost an hour. And it was on radar. This was a good case.
00:03:09
PRESTON DENNETT
So the news report ended and I thought to myself, huh, what is going on here? i bet you he's going to get fired. i was right about that. he was grounded.
Personal and Family UFO Encounters
00:03:21
PRESTON DENNETT
but
00:03:21
Lee Hatfield
Oh,
00:03:21
PRESTON DENNETT
what was so interesting to me is it sparked a memory from my childhood. I remember when I was 13 years old, mind you, I was pretty young in 1986, 21. So not very old at all, really.
00:03:36
PRESTON DENNETT
But I remember some, you know, seven years earlier or so, I was 13, maybe 14 years old. And my brother, Mark, my older brother comes running into the house. He's claiming to have seen a UFO.
00:03:49
PRESTON DENNETT
I remember he was so excited. all I really remember him saying was it was, very low at about the height of a telephone pole. And I just kind of dismissed him. I'm like, no, Mark, you didn't see anything. UFOs don't exist.
00:04:04
PRESTON DENNETT
and we We had a pretty large family. There were six kids in our family and we all pretty much dismissed him, which, know, looking back on it was not fair and kind of sad.
00:04:15
PRESTON DENNETT
And I apologized later, but hearing hearing this report in the news, you know I went back to Mark and I'm like, you know, you think you saw a UFO? He's like, what do you mean I think I saw one? I saw one. I'm okay, well, tell me.
00:04:32
PRESTON DENNETT
And he really impressed me because now that I was willing to listen, and he described this very incredible sighting that he had with two of his friends. He was not alone. They were in the, let's see, Reseda, which is right outside of Los Angeles in Southern California.
00:04:52
PRESTON DENNETT
And driving down the road when they saw this classic flying saucer, you know, a metallic object, lights on it, a dome on top, silent, treetop level. And they chased it in their car down Reseda Boulevard for 15 minutes.
00:05:08
PRESTON DENNETT
He said it was really strange because other people were looking at it. They were passing other cars. And it would stop right above the road and wait for them. And as soon as they got close, would dart ahead.
00:05:19
PRESTON DENNETT
It did that, you know.
00:05:19
Lee Hatfield
how
00:05:21
PRESTON DENNETT
several times until it finally went off. And I'm like, wow, what? He's like, listen, if you don't believe me, talk to Phil and Greg. Those were his friends who I knew pretty well.
00:05:34
PRESTON DENNETT
So I did. And they, of course, confirmed his story. And that's what opened it for me. Boy, what a shock it was when I found out that my two future sister-in-laws had both had encounters. One had a sighting followed by encounter.
00:05:49
PRESTON DENNETT
face-to-face encounter with gray ETs. Another saw humanoids when she was a little girl. Turned out I several friends who had had encounters. One had missing time.
00:06:01
PRESTON DENNETT
Stupid me, I brought it up at the office where I worked. That's kind of the straw that broke the camel's back because two people I worked closely with had had encounters. And one, their daughter, had a face-to-face encounter of with grays and was apparently taken on board.
00:06:19
PRESTON DENNETT
The other had missing time. So I started buying all the books I could find on this subject.
Journey into UFO Research
00:06:26
PRESTON DENNETT
I found out about MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network.
00:06:30
PRESTON DENNETT
And not only did I join MUFON, I called them up. I'm like, I want all your journals going back to when you opened, 1967 or something.
00:06:38
Lee Hatfield
wow
00:06:39
PRESTON DENNETT
I mean, I was going in for this all out. And I became a MUFON field invest investigator within one year. And for the next 10 years, read every book I could find, attended every convention.
00:06:56
PRESTON DENNETT
subscribed to every UFO group. I investigated case after case after case. I started writing articles. Almost immediately started going on the radio and speaking at conventions and and going on TV, actually, which really surprised me because, you know, i'm I was a shy guy. I'm not so shy now, but I was painfully shy.
00:07:17
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:07:18
PRESTON DENNETT
And then after 10 years, of i wrote about 30 articles. I put up my first book in 1996, UFO healings, about 100 cases of people who've been healed as a result of an encounter and never looked back.
00:07:33
PRESTON DENNETT
A book every year or so on the average. And yeah, it took over my life. And real quick, when I found out this was real, it was not good news.
00:07:44
PRESTON DENNETT
I was upset. All my family and friends were lying to me. That's how I looked at it. Our government was lying. This wasn't being taught in schools. I had to re-evaluate everything I thought I knew.
00:07:58
PRESTON DENNETT
So it was a painful year. But now I look back on it with fondness. was a good time.
00:08:03
Lee Hatfield
yeah so It's actually quite funny that you mentioned that you were quite young in 1986. You and I, my friends, are the same age. i was I was working out going, hang on a minute, I was 21 in 1986 as well.
00:08:12
PRESTON DENNETT
how about that?
00:08:18
PRESTON DENNETT
Nice.
00:08:19
Lee Hatfield
It's weird how back when we were younger, when if anybody spoke about this kind of thing, it was it was always always pooh-poohed, it was never like taken seriously.
00:08:35
Lee Hatfield
But then you move forward into this day and age, it is all taken seriously. And the amount of evidence that you see in the media yeah and what people have taken with their own cell phones and cameras is absolutely phenomenal.
00:08:54
Lee Hatfield
So do you think that it It's more common now because we have the capabilities of having a camera immediately in our pockets that there's more evidence coming to light?
00:09:08
Lee Hatfield
Or do you think it's always been like that?
UFOs in Mainstream Culture
00:09:11
PRESTON DENNETT
I think it's probably a little bit of both. I think the fact that this subject has gone mainstream and is accepted helps tremendously. But back in the late it kind of caught a wave there because that's when Whitley Strieber's book, Communion, came out.
00:09:30
PRESTON DENNETT
Bud Hopkins' book, Intruders, was doing really well. Gary Kinder had written a book about Billy Meyer. So the subject was enjoying a resurgence in popularity right when I got involved.
00:09:43
PRESTON DENNETT
So i think prior to this, no, there were nobody talked about it.
00:09:49
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:09:49
PRESTON DENNETT
And it's not as uncommon as you might think. I heard a quote, this shocked me. I heard a quote from j Allen Hynek, who, as you probably know, is part of Project Blue Book, the astronomical consultant, and you know the father of modern ufology, he's been called.
00:10:06
PRESTON DENNETT
I heard a quote from him. This was right when I started researching that one in 40 people have had an onboard experience. I'm like, you got to be out of your mind.
00:10:17
PRESTON DENNETT
There's no way. That's far too common. That's millions of people. That would mean I know someone who's been taken on board, which of course, i you know, that prompted me to ask everybody.
Personal UFO Sightings and Experiences
00:10:27
PRESTON DENNETT
And I found out I did. and i didn't have to ask 40 people. So, yeah, I think it's far more common than people think. But because people don't talk about it, they and they wouldn't even tell their spouse.
00:10:41
PRESTON DENNETT
People don't tell their friends and family. So I think the evidence was there. We were just was suppressed not only by our government, but by the witnesses themselves.
00:10:53
Lee Hatfield
yeah and I do think that you've still got two different portions of UFOlogy. You've got the sightings, you've got the yeah the underwater theories, you've got yeah all these new theories coming out right now.
00:11:12
Lee Hatfield
But if somebody mentions the fact that they've been taken on board, that is still kind of the taboo, exactly, that's still kind of the taboo subject. but I understand you've had an experience of your own.
00:11:27
PRESTON DENNETT
Yes, and it's amazing. It's such a shame because, you know, Congress is talking about UFOs and even the idea that perhaps there's been crash retrievals, but they're not bringing up any contactees.
00:11:40
PRESTON DENNETT
And it's funny because that's what I've really focused my research on because I think that's the pay dirt. That's the heart of the UFO phenomena. That's where we're going to get the most information.
00:11:51
PRESTON DENNETT
I really wanted to see UFO because I was you know reading these books, which are so interesting.
00:11:53
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:11:57
PRESTON DENNETT
And then I'm talking to people who had these encounters, which is quite a bit more interesting than just reading a book because you're that much closer. And so I'm interviewing people who've just had an encounter. or not So I'm kind of circling around this UFOs, but I hadn't seen one.
00:12:15
PRESTON DENNETT
So I was getting frustrated. i was going out into the fields at night when where activity was going on trying to see one and pretty early on i started seeing unexplained lights but having found out that i'd been lied to by our government and you know people i loved and trusted i became weirdly more skeptical i really had to question everything so these were just unexplained lights to me which were probably ufos but i couldn't go there
00:12:47
PRESTON DENNETT
I really needed to see something that I could sink my teeth into. and as time progressed, I sure did. Because as you hang out with contactees and people are having these encounters, that ups your chances.
00:13:01
PRESTON DENNETT
And I was investigating a wave of sightings in Topanga Canyon right outside of LA in 1992. And there was whole all kinds of activity going on, really the entire range from sightings to landings,
00:13:16
PRESTON DENNETT
People were seeing humanoids, and people were taken on board, people's cars were being chased down the road. It was crazy. And I was at my brother's house, my brother Mark, actually, as it turns out, because he was helping me through all this. Honestly, i needed like someone to bounce ideas off of.
00:13:35
PRESTON DENNETT
And it was late July, or yeah around July 20th, thereabouts. I can't pinpoint the exact date, but it was July of 1992.
00:13:46
PRESTON DENNETT
approaching midnight when I just you know I told I have to go home I've got to work tomorrow it is a Sunday and I'm driving down their little street which is a tiny little street I'm coming around a corner and I saw what I thought was a bird swooping down towards my car at midnight that makes no sense so I'm looking up at it and I realize oh my gosh it's glowing and it's round and it came down at an arc towards my car. so I'm thinking, well, maybe it's a firecracker, fireworks, because, you know, it was late July.
00:14:22
PRESTON DENNETT
Some people still had fireworks. But then this darn thing stops right in front of my windshield, and it's an orb about the size of a golf ball or a tennis ball there in between. It stopped right in front of my face.
00:14:36
PRESTON DENNETT
So then you're thinking, okay, is that a reflection? Even though obviously it wasn't. So I'm going like that. This darn thing goes back and forth two or three times, stops again right in front of my face.
00:14:47
PRESTON DENNETT
So now I know it's intelligently controlled and darts straight up. And no, I had missing time. I forgot everything that happened.
00:14:59
PRESTON DENNETT
I don't remember driving home. I should have turned around and told my family. I was minutes away from them. I didn't remember any of it until a few months later. Like, oh my gosh, so this happened.
00:15:13
PRESTON DENNETT
And I'm sticking to this because I remember it. So that was the first one. And as the years progressed, I began having more sightings. That year was a big one. I had like four sightings that year, all anomalous lights.
00:15:27
PRESTON DENNETT
But over the years, things started ramping up. There was one time and was in my third story condo transcribing an interview from a lady who'd been taken on board and saw a graze and you know had hybrid babies and the whole deal.
00:15:43
PRESTON DENNETT
which was a lot to swallow. You know, even this was the early 1990s again, mid 94 about something. Oh my gosh, is this lady telling me the truth? She obviously believes it, but man, oh man, hybrid babies. This is, don't know.
00:16:01
PRESTON DENNETT
and I'm transcribing the interview and it's midnight, you know, 1230. And I get this message. This is so weird because I've interviewed people who've had this experience. And now it's happening to me.
00:16:12
PRESTON DENNETT
It's go onto your roof. And like, what? You know, I'm ignoring it thinking that's a crazy thought. You know, why am I thinking this? And it just was so persistent that before I even knew what I was doing, I ran three stories down to grab my eye eyeglasses out of the car because I use them only for driving.
00:16:31
PRESTON DENNETT
I'm very slightly nearsighted. So i you know, this is a secure building. That's kind of a big deal to go three stories down I'm in my units the farthest away from the parking lot of everybody.
00:16:43
Lee Hatfield
Of course, of course, yeah.
00:16:46
PRESTON DENNETT
So I grabbed my glasses and I find myself running onto the roof. Here's another thing. You're not allowed to run on the roof. Well, I'm a good guy. I'm a good boy. i don't go on the roof. It's against the rules.
00:16:59
PRESTON DENNETT
But I did because this impulse was that strong. And no sooner had I got up there when I kind of, there's a little wall, I kind of braced myself against the wall and I'm thinking to myself, what am I doing?
00:17:12
PRESTON DENNETT
This is crazy. When a UFO appeared and it was right across the street, there was a little parking lot, a little cement river.
Telepathic Communication with a UFO
00:17:20
PRESTON DENNETT
So it's maybe 200 feet away, 150. And was right above the apartment building and it was this giant fiery oval.
00:17:29
PRESTON DENNETT
So it had to be 10, 20 feet across. And as soon as I saw that darn thing, it hit me with a message. It said, hi it's us.
00:17:41
PRESTON DENNETT
We're Wendy ZTs. This is the lady I'm interviewing, right? That's not a real name. That's a pseudonym. Hi, it's us. We're Wendy ZTs. She's telling the truth. This is for real. We'll prove it to you.
00:17:52
PRESTON DENNETT
And watch this. Now, that wasn't in English. It was a boom, telepathic. They pounded me with it. I got the message. And this darn thing moved back and forth.
00:18:05
PRESTON DENNETT
And you know, non-conventional movements that nothing we have can do, maybe for 20 seconds, and then disappeared. So like, oh my gosh, and I i stood up there and for a few minutes, and I'm like, wow, okay, you know, whoa, that was amazing, and i was going to call Wendy up, but it was like 1 at this point, so I'm not going do
00:18:30
Lee Hatfield
and Yeah, no.
00:18:32
PRESTON DENNETT
I called her up the next day, i' told her, I'm like, oh my gosh, your ETs showed up, I'm pretty sure it was them, you know, they actually said, oh, this this is the message I got. She's like, oh my gosh, that's very cool.
00:18:43
PRESTON DENNETT
And she I told her, like, you know, you're in telepathic contact, right? She's like, well, yeah, I told you that. I'm like, okay, well, can you call them down? I'd like another demonstration.
00:18:54
PRESTON DENNETT
like, are you kidding? You just had one. I'm like, I know, but I wasn't ready. So she she set up an appointment with them. Honest to God, she calls me back a week or two later. She's like, okay, they told us to go this place, this location at this time, which was right off this pretty major freeway in, let's see, Pasadena near the Latuna exit. I'll never forget it.
00:19:19
PRESTON DENNETT
So we drove up there late, late at night. I took my sister-in-law, my nephew and her and we got separated. So it's just me and her reaching the top of this little hill off the freeway.
00:19:32
PRESTON DENNETT
And no sooner had we got to this little plateau and I'm surveilling the scene. I got my camera around my neck and she grabs my shoulders and spins me around. i was look, she didn't need to point. This thing was as big as a house, 20 feet away from me, 30 feet away, 10 feet off the ground, this massive, sparkling, beautiful, I mean, it was exquisite sphere.
00:19:58
PRESTON DENNETT
with all these golden lights on it, totally silent, hovered there for maybe 10 seconds, 20, and started to move away and then zipped around. And I forgot about my camera. I couldn't take my eyes off this thing.
00:20:13
PRESTON DENNETT
So, you know, more sightings like that, which finally ramped up to just recently. And this is so cool because I had been interviewing this lady by the name of Dolly Safran, who was like my favorite contactee ever.
Out-of-Body UFO Experience
00:20:27
PRESTON DENNETT
because she has had more experiences really than anyone I've ever interviewed. Showed me her medical evidence, you know, healings, implants, other stuff that I really can't talk about, but she showed me.
00:20:41
PRESTON DENNETT
Photographic evidence, she's got corroborating witnesses, she's got a sterling resume, and an amazing story of continual, fully conscious contact. So I am in bed on my birthday 2022,
00:20:55
PRESTON DENNETT
and twenty twenty two And I'm dreaming, you know, it's just a dream. Suddenly I'm awake and my dream evaporates because I'm being pulled through my wall.
00:21:07
PRESTON DENNETT
You know, it's which kind of, it's really hard to describe, but it's like the wall just evaporated and I'm pulled up through it and I am flying upwards at super high speeds.
00:21:18
PRESTON DENNETT
And this is weird because this is when i kind of like, gosh, I recognize this feeling. i have done this before. Because I did have that missing time incident. and There's been a few other things.
00:21:28
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:21:29
PRESTON DENNETT
So I'm like, oh my gosh, I know what's happening here. I am being taken. This is amazing. And I'm looking around me and there's it's the pitch black of space. And this went on for 30 seconds, which is a long time when we were going through something like this.
00:21:44
PRESTON DENNETT
And the next thing I know, i am being, and I didn't see it this happen, but I am suddenly lying on a table inside what has to be a craft.
00:21:55
PRESTON DENNETT
because it was a 40-foot-wide round room, which was had indirect lighting and all the details I've heard about so many times.
00:22:07
PRESTON DENNETT
And it's so interesting because you interview all these people and you're thinking, well, what's it like? And you're visualizing it. No, I'm here and it's happening to me. I'm like, oh my gosh. And there was little guys all around me, which I wasn't really looking at because there was this lady leaning over me who had these eyes that wrapped her around her head, really thin, white, tightly curled hair.
00:22:31
PRESTON DENNETT
She was rail thin, wearing a spotless, almost glowing white jumpsuit with no seams, very, very white skin, tiny itty-bitty nose, itty-bitty mouth.
00:22:42
PRESTON DENNETT
She was a hybrid, is what I'm trying to describe. And actually, really, you know, I didn't think she was the least bit on you unusual or should i say ugly. I'll just say, I thought she was beautiful.
00:22:53
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:22:55
PRESTON DENNETT
like, wow, look at you. And she asked me if I was all right. And I said, yes. And I tried to sit up. She's like, no, no, no, no. We need to make sure you're all right. I'm like, listen, I'm fine.
00:23:07
PRESTON DENNETT
Because going up there was very electric. It was like, and it was, I could see how someone would get disoriented from that, but I wasn't, I remembered it. So,
00:23:18
PRESTON DENNETT
I've had a lot of out-of-body experiences too, so that may have contributed to my being ready, I guess.
00:23:24
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:23:24
PRESTON DENNETT
So I kept trying to get up and they're like, no, no, no. you're Finally, I'm like, listen, I'm fine. So they're like, right, get up. And I leapt off that table because there was this tall gray standing about 10 feet away, it turns out is the tall gray that Dolly Safran, the lady I interviewed, meets regularly all the time.
00:23:47
PRESTON DENNETT
Now I'm meeting her. so I rush up to her and I'm like, oh my gosh. And she's the epitome of grace and beauty and elegance. She's a gray. She's got no hair, huge head, enormous eyes, tiny little mouth. She's just barely smiling, a little nose.
00:24:07
PRESTON DENNETT
She tilts, she's wearing a white cloak. She tilts her head and forward and to the side and looks at me and speaks telepathically. And she says, so Is this what you thought it would be like?
00:24:19
PRESTON DENNETT
And I said, no, it's much better.
00:24:23
PRESTON DENNETT
It was. I had no fear. i understand if people are afraid, but I've been interviewing people for a very long time and imagining something like this. So you know no fear at all. It was great.
00:24:37
PRESTON DENNETT
And I asked her if I could explore.
00:24:38
Lee Hatfield
oh yeah how can you How can you put that into into conscious logic?
00:24:39
PRESTON DENNETT
she said, sure.
00:24:45
Lee Hatfield
yeah so like yeah You've just explained to me that it's something that you expect to see honor on a TV show or yeah on a movie. how How can you get your brain around the fact that this actually happened to you and you you weren't hallucinating or you weren't dreaming?
00:25:07
PRESTON DENNETT
Yeah, well, being there, and you know, as it's happening, i am in a state of absolute astonishment. You know, I am like on cloud nine. I'm like, I cannot believe this is happening.
00:25:20
PRESTON DENNETT
This is so amazing. This is incredible. This is actually happening. And it wasn't a dream. That's the thing. So I was like, oh, my gosh, I really want to remember everything that's happening here.
00:25:36
PRESTON DENNETT
So that was what's spinning through my mind. I'm not thinking, oh, could this be a dream? Because no it wasn't. It was as real as I'm talking to you right now. yeah, it was something I'd so wanted for so long because I'd had like missing time and I was having dreams of having been on board, which were essentially memories, which you know I truly believe that even though,
00:25:47
Lee Hatfield
That is just amazing.
00:26:03
PRESTON DENNETT
They were dreams. I was remembering it. I was having flashbacks, but it's a different story when you're there and you're remembering as it happens. So
00:26:12
Lee Hatfield
I can imagine. yeah so like that That would pretty much blow someone's mind, I think.
00:26:18
PRESTON DENNETT
I was jumping up and down.
00:26:18
Lee Hatfield
Absolutely. How long would you that you
00:26:20
PRESTON DENNETT
They had windows all around the craft. I saw grays on the other side of the room. I'm like, whoa, look at them.
00:26:27
Lee Hatfield
were away for?
00:26:28
PRESTON DENNETT
Because they look different. They weren't very close.
00:26:32
Lee Hatfield
how long would you say that you you were away
00:26:37
PRESTON DENNETT
was about five minutes. Yeah, very brief, which is so unfortunate because, you know, if they had said, do you want to stay? I'd be like, yeah.
00:26:48
Lee Hatfield
yeah i've got I've got this checklist of things I'd like to see and do for you.
00:26:55
PRESTON DENNETT
Exactly.
00:26:55
Lee Hatfield
yeah yeah
00:26:56
PRESTON DENNETT
but you know, I looked out the window and I could see the earth down below. and that was thrilling. And for all you flat earthers, I could, good No, it was round. You know, I wasn't so far away that I could see the globe, but I could see curve of the Earth very pronounced.
00:27:16
PRESTON DENNETT
So I'm trying to figure out how high up that would be because looking at some satellite shots and stuff, think it was around 500 miles.
00:27:24
Lee Hatfield
Oh, for sure.
00:27:25
PRESTON DENNETT
I still want to dig deeper on that.
00:27:28
Lee Hatfield
oh for sure
00:27:28
PRESTON DENNETT
But then the craft dropped down to the surface of the Earth in about one second. It was funny, there was a lady standing next to me who was fully conscious because there were some people on board who were not conscious.
00:27:40
PRESTON DENNETT
They were in a daze. I tried to talk to them and they wouldn't talk to me. and was going to talk to this lady because she was like, whoa, oh my God, look. She's like me. and so i I walked up next to her and I looked out the window and I saw the earth. i'm like, oh my gosh.
00:27:55
PRESTON DENNETT
The craft drops down. It rocks slightly and it shoots back up.
00:28:01
PRESTON DENNETT
I was going to talk to her, but then I turned around because... the tall gray, she's motioning to me to come over to her. She gives me this glass tumbler of green liquid.
00:28:13
PRESTON DENNETT
Now she exudes absolute you know trust and nurturing and wisdom. I trust her. So I'm not even questioning you know when she says drink this, but i like I always sniff stuff before I drink it or eat you know I'm a snipper.
00:28:26
Lee Hatfield
Oh, yeah. OK.
00:28:29
PRESTON DENNETT
so i' like And I can't smell it. And I'm looking at it I'm like, huh? because it's thick, it's thick, almost glowing neon green. like, wow.
00:28:40
PRESTON DENNETT
And I take a sip and it's very thick, like cough syrup, kind of. And it does have a taste. It was not unpleasant. It was kind of kiwi, a little bit like a kiwi, maybe slight lime taste.
00:28:51
Lee Hatfield
okay
00:28:55
PRESTON DENNETT
And I just took a little sip and she started to take it away from me I'm like, wait, du this is mine. You said I could have this. And she's like, huh? I'm well, can I take another sip?
00:29:05
PRESTON DENNETT
She looked at me like I was crazy. She's like, well, fine. and okay. And I took another sip, and that's all I remember. I was back in bed.
00:29:14
Lee Hatfield
Was there any reason of what you can think of for them giving you that drink?
00:29:23
PRESTON DENNETT
Yes, I wrote an article in one of my books. Well, I wrote or an article and put a chapter in a book called Alien Drinks. So... This is not an unusual experience where people are taken on board. And there's all kinds of theories. One is, oh, it's to help you forget, right?
00:29:39
PRESTON DENNETT
I wasn't so sure about that. Some feel it's nurturing or medicinal in some way, which I think is probably more along the lines of what's going on here. But I ended up asking Dolly about it. And she's like, oh, yeah, well, they give that to people.
00:29:54
PRESTON DENNETT
Because when you're on board a craft and you're out there the magnet, you know, beyond the magnetosphere, you're You're getting doses of gamma radiation that could be considered damaging, and that is something that helps with that.
00:30:13
PRESTON DENNETT
So that's what it was from my understanding.
00:30:14
Lee Hatfield
make That makes perfect sense. yeah So I don't know how I can ask any questions that can't fly. After what you've just said, it's like, OK, I've got no more questions. so when you're being part of MUFON and you go on an investigation, how do you verify the credibility of witnesses or what they've seen what
Verifying UFO Sightings
00:30:40
Lee Hatfield
they've encountered?
00:30:41
Lee Hatfield
or what they've encountered
00:30:43
PRESTON DENNETT
Yeah, well, it's a process, you know, and I think anyone who's done investigations of any kind in any field would you know agree with that.
00:30:55
PRESTON DENNETT
And I certainly became better at it as time went on, because when I became a MUFON field investigator, now they give you classes. There's a whole ordeal you go through. Back then, there was nothing like that.
00:31:07
PRESTON DENNETT
They just kind of threw you into the deep end. They did require you take a test. which had some 200 questions, if I recall. It was a take-home test. I thought, well, this is going to be easy. It's a take-home test.
00:31:19
PRESTON DENNETT
there's There's no internet, though. But I got the test, and I'm zipping through it because it's so all about, you know, Betty and Barney Hill and Calvin Parker and Travis Walton and all the UFO, there was the UFO section.
00:31:32
PRESTON DENNETT
I'm like, ding, ding, ding, going down. And then there was a section on photography. I'm like, ooh, I don't know these questions. My sister was taking photography. So that helped.
00:31:44
PRESTON DENNETT
There was a question whole section on astronomy. i took astrono I was taking astronomy in college and really loved it. And I was all into science. you know I was really scientifically minded as a young man. I loved science.
00:31:59
PRESTON DENNETT
I was very rational, materialist kind of guy. So that helped. There was a section on meteorology. I was taking that in college as well, which is extraordinarily complex. You wouldn't think, but yeah there's a lot of different types of clouds and humidity and all these things.
00:32:19
PRESTON DENNETT
So there was a whole science section. I did really well. I missed two answers. I was so mad because you know i'm and I'm a little bit of a perfectionist, I guess.
00:32:25
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:32:31
PRESTON DENNETT
But then i got my little field investigators card and they started referring me cases. And it was thrilling because you get to speak to these witnesses. You have them fill out a whole form.
00:32:43
PRESTON DENNETT
I would always do a preliminary verbal interview and then I would do one that's recorded. So I could, that's my first step. Is there preliminary interview matching their and recorded interview?
00:32:57
PRESTON DENNETT
Then you ask for corroborating witnesses. Like, can I talk to your spouse? You know, do you have anybody who can vouch for you? And you just go through the whole checklist of fact checking.
00:33:09
PRESTON DENNETT
You look for corroborating witnesses who saw stuff at that time. Because there was a database that was starting to be put together. And the internet was just beginning to come out.
00:33:22
PRESTON DENNETT
that that point, it really wasn't useful. So that was difficult to do. But I had all the MUFON magazines.
00:33:33
PRESTON DENNETT
check for anyone who saw UFOs in that area at that time and this kind of thing. And I learned you can sort of gauge a person's emotions too.
00:33:44
PRESTON DENNETT
And it's funny because if someone saw UFO, it's one thing, you know, I interviewed anyone. If you saw an unexplained light for three seconds, I'm coming over. But there are people who are describing seeing humanoids, you know, being taken on board.
00:33:58
PRESTON DENNETT
And almost always they would start out with a caveat. s saying something like, i have no history of mental illness in my family. You've got to believe me.
00:34:09
PRESTON DENNETT
I don't do drugs. I've got a good job. know and so I've got a college education. They would try to find some way in, like, please just believe me.
00:34:21
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:34:21
PRESTON DENNETT
And sometimes they would seriously weep. you know They would get really emotional. I remember asking one guy, can you tell me what this figure looked like?
00:34:32
PRESTON DENNETT
And he started crying. He's like, I'm really sorry. like This is a Marine. This is a guy who's a tough guy. And he was so embarrassed. I felt so bad. and like, listen, you know, if you if you don't want to describe it, that's fine. He's like, no, I want to, I want to.
00:34:47
PRESTON DENNETT
But i it says, couldn't look at it. I was too scared, I can't give you a good description. he was describing a reptilian humanoid. So he had a really difficult encounter.
00:34:59
PRESTON DENNETT
But that is a big tell, I think, when someone's truly emotional, like, okay, we got, and there's these little details, especially back then, that were not well known.
00:35:11
PRESTON DENNETT
I call them markers or little red flags, like, oh like, you know, the interior of UFO, what it looks like, the clothes they wear, the things ETs say, the tools they use, how they behave.
00:35:25
PRESTON DENNETT
There's all these little things that even today, I still have some, which I'd know kind of keep close to my chest because i'm like oh okay i can use this but like one guy he's like you're never gonna believe me because i asked him how big was the room and he gave me this look like i don't know how to tell this guy this i'm like just know it's okay tell me i've heard it all he says well you know the room was about 20 feet across but then i asked them where they were from and he says the entire room expanded
00:35:31
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:35:56
PRESTON DENNETT
and grew in size and they displayed a holographic star chart. And he could see the solar system and way off in the distance, you know, all these stars was this little red light blinking. And they're like, that's our star.
00:36:09
PRESTON DENNETT
He says the room grew in size. It changed size. I'm like, ding, ding, ding, ding. I've heard this before. Nobody knows about this.
00:36:14
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:36:14
PRESTON DENNETT
This is amazing. He was a medic, by the way, a Navy medic. So a great witness. But yeah, there's all these things you go through And you get better at it as well, because every now and then I will get someone like, I don't think so.
00:36:30
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:36:31
PRESTON DENNETT
You're pulling the wool over my eyes. This story is not adding up.
00:36:34
Lee Hatfield
That's it. And in this day and age, you've got those people out there that make things up. Now yeah I've been in the emergency services for 25 years, so you know when people are not telling you the truth.
00:36:49
Lee Hatfield
Because then you get discrepancies in the story. If they repeat the story, there's something different every time. So that kind of raises a little bit of a red flag to say, hang on a minute, if you can't get your story straight, what are you hiding?
00:37:06
PRESTON DENNETT
Right, exactly. And that's why I love it when I have a multiple witness case. There was one time I had four people who saw UFO and it was amazing because one guy didn't really want to talk to me. He said, yeah it happened.
00:37:20
PRESTON DENNETT
Two were brothers and one guy gave a fairly good description. One guy, he's not answering my questions. I'm like, listen, what did it look like? and he's like, I was too scared.
00:37:31
PRESTON DENNETT
When I saw that thing over the house, It was so big that I ran and hid by the side of the house and I wanted to crawl under the house. One guy, you he's he loves this subject. He'd seen a UFO previously. Aldert was his name.
00:37:45
PRESTON DENNETT
He gave every darn detail. He described it to a T, but between all four of them, you could tell they were telling the truth and there were slight discrepancies in their details.
00:37:56
PRESTON DENNETT
And you learn that that's actually a clue towards the veracity of their subject, of the of the experience, because
00:38:02
Lee Hatfield
Correct.
00:38:04
PRESTON DENNETT
and Talk to five witnesses who saw a car accident. They're going to give you know slightly different details.
00:38:08
Lee Hatfield
Exactly.
00:38:10
PRESTON DENNETT
But yeah, if a person's story is boom, boom, boom, too structured, then I also get suspicious.
00:38:16
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:38:20
PRESTON DENNETT
So, you know, there's kind of a per a sweet spot where, okay, this is, and it's funny because witnesses will kind of look at you and like, how much do I trust this guy?
00:38:20
Lee Hatfield
For sure.
00:38:25
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:38:30
PRESTON DENNETT
Is he going to believe me? How much do I tell him? And only after you gain their trust do they start telling you the really juicy details. Because if they saw humanoid, again, most people don't want to talk about it because they've been gaslit. They've been ridiculed.
00:38:47
PRESTON DENNETT
They've lost friendships, you know family members over this subject.
00:38:53
Lee Hatfield
yeah and You mentioned humanoids and you mentioned greys.
Extraterrestrial Descriptions
00:39:00
Lee Hatfield
Are there any other common descriptions that people use to describe extraterrestrials?
00:39:08
PRESTON DENNETT
Oh yeah, yeah. It's really interesting to me because almost always they do describe humanoids, the humanoid form. I remember hearing that when I was a kid, I was watching In Search Of or something.
00:39:19
PRESTON DENNETT
I'm like, this is Star Trek. This is ridiculous. you know I expect ETs to have tentacles or something different, but that's just not the case. This is what we're kind of stuck with. This is what people are seeing.
00:39:33
PRESTON DENNETT
So that is one really strong commonality, which raises huge implications because some look just like us i mean they look like us so what contactees have been told is essentially we all share a common heritage which makes sense if the greys are interbreeding with us so one thing people almost always describe is the eyes you know they they focus on the eyes of these beings whether it's greys or mantids or tall whites or little blue beings or
00:40:07
PRESTON DENNETT
even the human looking ones, these ETs are very intelligent. They're very telepathic, they're very advanced. And so when they look at you, they are reading you.
00:40:18
PRESTON DENNETT
And people often are just like, their eyes, their eyes, their eyes. With greys, the descriptions vary more widely than you'd think.
00:40:31
PRESTON DENNETT
It's not just short little guys with gray skin and bald heads and dark eyes. eyes can sometimes be much smaller, rounder, human looking, but generally almond shaped and quite large and generally short.
00:40:47
PRESTON DENNETT
Though people will see six foot tall greys, they're generally five to four feet down to three foot tall. So the jumpsuits that they wear, that is another very strong commonality.
00:41:02
PRESTON DENNETT
No seams, no buttons, no zippers, no markings. tight-fitting. Some people say, well, I'm not even sure they were wearing clothes. Probably they were.
00:41:14
PRESTON DENNETT
Having interviewed a bunch of people, I think what people sometimes think are unclothed ETs are just ETs wearing very skin-tight jumpsuits.
00:41:26
PRESTON DENNETT
But yeah, commonalities in the way that UFOs look, the tools, and even what they say. Almost always, without exception, when someone meets ETs for the first time face-to-face, they will say, have no fear.
00:41:41
PRESTON DENNETT
Do not be afraid. No harm will come to you. We're not here to hurt you. You're fine. Relax. These sort of things. Because apparently we are pretty scared and react.
00:41:54
Lee Hatfield
I wonder why
00:41:55
PRESTON DENNETT
so
00:41:58
Lee Hatfield
so
00:41:58
PRESTON DENNETT
But yeah, the commonalities are amazing to me.
00:41:58
Lee Hatfield
can a yeah So we can't discuss UFOs without talking about Roswell.
The Roswell Incident's Significance
00:42:11
PRESTON DENNETT
Yes.
00:42:11
Lee Hatfield
Obviously one of the biggest UFO stories in the world, anybody that's anybody that talks about UFOs knows about Roswell.
00:42:22
PRESTON DENNETT
Yeah.
00:42:22
Lee Hatfield
so Government cover up for sure.
00:42:26
PRESTON DENNETT
hundred percent 100%. It did happen. I've got no doubt in my mind. I've spoken with Don Schmidt, one of the primary investigators. I'm very, very impressed by him because he's still finding new witnesses or the children of witnesses.
00:42:43
PRESTON DENNETT
An amazing event, 1947, July. Apparently there was more than one craft that went down. But what I like about Roswell is this is the case that keeps on giving.
00:42:54
PRESTON DENNETT
It's not a dead horse. This case is the number one and I think proves that this is real. It's not the only UFO crash by any means. It's one of probably a couple of hundred at least But what I love about Roswell is they interviewed people who saw this thing coming down, hit the mountain, scattered.
00:43:16
PRESTON DENNETT
They've got witnesses who saw it on the radar scopes. They've got witnesses whose property it landed on. They've got the witnesses that they've interviewed who guarded the craft, the witnesses who picked up the wreckage, the witnesses who drove the wreckage to the base, the witnesses who saw the wreckage coming to the base,
00:43:38
PRESTON DENNETT
The witnesses who shipped the wreckage to Wright-Patterson and various locations. Witnesses who studied the wreckage. I mean, there are hundreds of people who have verified this story.
00:43:52
PRESTON DENNETT
To say it's a weather balloon is ludicrous. You know, Jesse Marcel was the head of the intelligence outfit there at Roswell.
00:44:04
PRESTON DENNETT
He knows what a weather balloon is.
00:44:06
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:44:06
PRESTON DENNETT
And they made him basically so sad. Because I talked to his son, Jesse Marcel Jr., right sadly before he died. And he talked about this too.
00:44:17
PRESTON DENNETT
That was very, very hard on his father because he had to toe the party line. And people lost their lives over this. People were threatened. Gosh, we came so close.
00:44:28
PRESTON DENNETT
When that press release was you know made public, oh, we've got one. If they had not retracted that, we would be living in a different world. But that press release was retracted.
00:44:39
Lee Hatfield
you know
00:44:41
PRESTON DENNETT
The cover-up clamped down hard, and that case disappeared into obscurity for, what, 30 years almost? 25 years?
00:44:54
PRESTON DENNETT
I love the Roswell case. It's phenomenal.
00:44:56
Lee Hatfield
yeah Now, one thing that is quite relatable, I actually watched a very good friend of yours, Josh Gates, this morning.
00:45:09
Lee Hatfield
on a TV show talking about Roswell and they were talking about the picture of Brigadier General Roger Ramey holding up the weather balloon and they were trying to break down the document that he had in his hand and they got some tech guy trying to decipher some of the words.
00:45:34
Lee Hatfield
What's your impression on the document?
00:45:37
PRESTON DENNETT
Yeah, how amazing is that? Because little did they know, they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes, but there's a document in the picture that's visible. And through computer technology and you know with some experts, they're finding out, well, no, it's mentioning a disk right there.
00:45:54
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:45:55
PRESTON DENNETT
And I've talked to some people who've you know really studied this in depth. Amazing. you know The documentation of Roswell, people have tried to follow it. Senator Stephen Schiff, I think was his name?
00:46:10
PRESTON DENNETT
Schiff, and at any rate, of New Mexico, tried to track down what happened to all the documentation and got nowhere. And whether it's a coincidence or not, he suddenly died of a very aggressive form of cancer, which makes me wonder. But yeah, there's documentation of this.
00:46:28
PRESTON DENNETT
Some of it has leaked out in that way.
00:46:31
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:46:31
PRESTON DENNETT
And it's amazing because somewhere out there, That wreckage is in some vault. you know I suspect it's not so much in a vault, but being studied very closely.
00:46:44
PRESTON DENNETT
And there's no doubt in my mind that this technology has been reverse engineered. Colonel Philip Corso, his book, The Day After Roswell, is pretty interesting.
00:46:56
PRESTON DENNETT
His resume is unimpeachable. There are those who have tried to debunk him unsuccessfully, I think. because he flat out says that this technology was farmed out to various industries in a very sneaky way so that those who you know got it didn't know where it came from.
00:47:14
PRESTON DENNETT
And we have such things as, according to Corso, like fiber optics and the integrated circuit and night vision goggles and Kevlar and a few other things that came directly from Roswell.
00:47:28
PRESTON DENNETT
I don't know how true that is. I traced down some of these inventions thinking, Because you can go, you know, who invented Kevlar? You can look all this stuff up.
00:47:36
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, exactly.
00:47:37
PRESTON DENNETT
But yeah, it's interesting because I have spoken with some whistleblowers myself personally who were on their, you know, one guy was on his deathbed.
00:47:37
Lee Hatfield
exactly
00:47:47
PRESTON DENNETT
oh my I was just so profoundly touched by this guy because he had an amazing story to tell and he really wanted to do his part for disclosure. And I think most investigators have talked to some of these whistleblower folks.
00:48:03
PRESTON DENNETT
There's no doubt in my mind that we have this technology and to some extent have reverse engineered it.
00:48:10
Lee Hatfield
and let's say The fact that, not necessarily week by week, but as the years progress, we are getting more and more reliable evidence to say that this was not a weather balloon.
00:48:27
Lee Hatfield
There is so much out there right now.
00:48:28
PRESTON DENNETT
Oh yeah, it's funny. The Air Force is still digging in. know they they release There's about 300 books on Roswell.
00:48:37
PRESTON DENNETT
I got about 15 of them. I'm like, I'm done. But man, oh man, more books on that case, I think, than any other.
00:48:37
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:48:48
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:48
PRESTON DENNETT
Absolutely, there's mountains of evidence to support it. And frankly, mountains of evidence to support the reality of the UFO subject. It's not just eyewitness testimony. And it really chaps my eye when people say, there's no evidence. so but you I'm like, what rock are you living under?
00:49:07
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:49:07
PRESTON DENNETT
There's radar, there's landing traces, there's photographic evidence, film evidence. Eyewitness testimony is considered evidence in a court of law and can put you to jail for life, just so you know.
00:49:19
Lee Hatfield
exactly
00:49:20
PRESTON DENNETT
But angel hair, if people don't know about that. You know, this wispy substance that comes off of UFOs. metal fragments, it goes on and on. Physiological effects, healings and injuries, animal reactions, electromagnetic effects, documents from our own government. They take this seriously. You bet they take this seriously.
00:49:40
Lee Hatfield
It's quite funny how some people say that we're the only beings... yeah in the universe. it's like yeah How naive do you have to be to think that in one small ball, in one small universe, we are the only living species when you've got all these other universes and they've got millions of millions of planets.
00:50:08
Lee Hatfield
How can you say that we are the only species that lives? How naive do you have to be to believe that? It's crazy. There has to be something.
00:50:17
PRESTON DENNETT
Yeah, it's it's absolutely ludicrous. It's funny, someone once put on the internet, how come no astronomers see UFOs? I'm like, what are you talking about? I've got a list of 300 astronomers.
00:50:30
PRESTON DENNETT
Clyde Tombaugh, the discoverer of Pluto saw one.
00:50:30
Lee Hatfield
sorry.
00:50:32
PRESTON DENNETT
Frank Halstead of Darling University. There's a list of them. Lincoln LaPaz, very respected astronomer. So absolutely.
00:50:44
PRESTON DENNETT
We have a database now worldwide of more than several million documented UFO encounters.
Global UFO Database and Evidence
00:50:53
PRESTON DENNETT
MUFON, Mutual UFO Network, and NUFARC, National UFO Reporting Center, together have some two to 300,000 cases.
00:51:01
PRESTON DENNETT
But we've got APRO, the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization. CUFO, Center for UFO Studies. NICAP, the National Investigative Committee of Aerial Phenomena. This is just US, by the way.
00:51:13
PRESTON DENNETT
which is you know compared to the world, just a tiny little portion of the world.
00:51:14
Lee Hatfield
Yes.
00:51:17
PRESTON DENNETT
but All these other countries have databases as well.
00:51:19
Lee Hatfield
and
00:51:22
PRESTON DENNETT
The ETs have done their part.
00:51:23
Lee Hatfield
Exactly.
00:51:24
PRESTON DENNETT
They absolutely have disclosed.
00:51:24
Lee Hatfield
Yes. yeah and its It's really interesting how when we were both both kids, to within the last 10 to 15 years, it was always, always, always UFOs.
00:51:41
Lee Hatfield
but In the last few years, they've kind of changed it a little bit to UAPs, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, and USOs, Underwater Submersible
Terminology: UFOs, USOs, UAPs
00:51:57
Lee Hatfield
Objects. So, what's your theories on USOs?
00:52:00
Lee Hatfield
so watch your theories on uos
00:52:05
PRESTON DENNETT
On USOs?
00:52:06
Lee Hatfield
yes
00:52:08
PRESTON DENNETT
Yeah, well, they're UFOs. They're the same thing. But I can understand why the terminology has to change. UFO isn't a great word, let's face it.
00:52:20
PRESTON DENNETT
It's become synonymous with extraterrestrial craft. I think that's what we should call them. I hate the word UAP. I don't like it. I think it's diversionary. People say, oh, you're a ufologist. I'm like well, you would call me that.
00:52:32
PRESTON DENNETT
Don't call me a uapologist because That does not work for me. USO, yeah, an unidentified submersible object, that works because you really can't call it an unidentified flying object.
00:52:46
PRESTON DENNETT
But essentially, these objects, the term often used is transmedium. OK, because these objects are apparently able to travel into and a vacuum of outer space, in the atmosphere, underwater, and frankly, through solid objects.
00:53:03
PRESTON DENNETT
are cases of them going into the ground. They can turn dimensional, I suppose, is what's going on here. But USOs are interesting because they haven't gotten a lot of attention for a long time, and now there's huge resurgence in interest.
00:53:19
PRESTON DENNETT
And it's funny because when I started investigating, I started getting a lot of cases right off the bat off the coast of Southern California. And I found out that that area is one of the biggest USO producers in the world.
00:53:35
PRESTON DENNETT
Probably the biggest, I'll just go there because mile for mile, it produces more than any other area.
00:53:38
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:53:41
PRESTON DENNETT
And every single investigator that was based there has cases. you know Yvonne Smith, Barbara Lamb, Ann Druffle, Bill Hamilton, Robert Stanley, all of them have cases.
00:53:55
PRESTON DENNETT
And I've ended up writing a whole book about it because it just got to be ridiculous. I've got over 150 really solid USO cases in that area.
00:54:09
PRESTON DENNETT
it's so interesting because they can come barreling down into the water and not make a splash.
00:54:15
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. For sure.
00:54:15
PRESTON DENNETT
We don't have anything that can do that, not officially. they have you know There are sightings underwater of these craft darting from one side of the ocean to the other, just like people describe in the sky, 1,000 miles an hour.
00:54:29
PRESTON DENNETT
we We know we can't do that. Because I've talked to submariners and people in a position to know.
00:54:32
Lee Hatfield
but
00:54:36
PRESTON DENNETT
And no, we don't have anything that can do much more than not even 100 knots. There's some question of whether we can go above 50 or even up to 70.
00:54:47
PRESTON DENNETT
But no, nothing up to you know as fast as these objects are going. So they clearly have some trans-dimensional capability or some kind of force field.
00:54:59
PRESTON DENNETT
It's super interesting because I've come to realize kind of became the go-to guy for a while there for USOs. I still get a lot of reports. Our rivers have them, tiny little ponds, you know lakes across the world, our oceans.
00:55:16
PRESTON DENNETT
There's a lot of USO activity. And it's interesting because I think there's a place they can go where we can't see them or get to them very easily. So they can you know do whatever it is they're doing and not be observed or molested by government folks.
00:55:32
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:55:33
PRESTON DENNETT
But yeah, gosh, I have one case and off the Santa Catalina coast there of 200 objects coming out of the water.
00:55:43
Lee Hatfield
wow
00:55:43
PRESTON DENNETT
So there's got to be a parking lot down there of UFOs, or at one time there was. So...
00:55:49
Lee Hatfield
oh yeah but so I think I know the answer to the next question but I'm going to ask it anyway.
Advocacy for UFO Research and Transparency
00:55:57
Lee Hatfield
What would you like to see happen in the future regarding the investigation of UFOs.
00:56:04
PRESTON DENNETT
I would like it to be government funded, honestly. I would like this to have truth and transparency. The cover-up has got to end.
00:56:15
PRESTON DENNETT
It has to, to move this subject forward to where it needs to be. Will it ever end? Doubt it. I really don't think our governments, and I use that term loosely, governments, will ever be truthful or transparent with this subject, because they're not now, and they have never been.
00:56:35
PRESTON DENNETT
I think the cover-up, you can trace it to the highest levels of the military, the military-industrial complex, the intelligence agencies. Really, it's kind of a cabal of folks who are clamping a lid on this subject.
00:56:54
PRESTON DENNETT
But UFOs are real. They are here. They've been here a long time. You can't hide the truth forever. You can distort it, you can lie about it, you can cover it up, you can ignore it, but you will never destroy it.
00:57:09
PRESTON DENNETT
And sooner or later, it's gonna come out. The government coverup, we're seeing it collapse under the weight of its own lies right now. And they're being forced to make positive statements about this subject.
00:57:22
PRESTON DENNETT
Because if they don't, they will lose control of the narrative. They become irrelevant and not credible. And guess what? That's exactly what happened.
00:57:32
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:57:32
PRESTON DENNETT
We all know our government is our liars. We all know it. There's no doubt about it. And it's a big joke. It's an open conspiracy. It's ridiculous. I would love truth and transparency.
00:57:44
PRESTON DENNETT
I would love researchers to come together. Stop infighting. Stop squabbling. Let's reach a consensus of what we know. It's amazing to me because there's so dis much disinformation in this field.
00:57:59
PRESTON DENNETT
bad actors, people who are call themselves UFO researchers, and they're government agents. There's no doubt in my mind.
Challenging the Fear of ETs
00:58:07
PRESTON DENNETT
And I'm not gonna name them because some are still living and they're very active in this field and it's infuriating.
00:58:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:58:15
PRESTON DENNETT
And some, content quote, contactees were pushing this fear-based narrative, like ETs are here to harm us. Well, hold on a second.
00:58:26
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:58:26
PRESTON DENNETT
Are you talking about the ETs that have been around since prehistory? Those guys? Those guys, every major researcher out there who focuses on onboard experiences has multiple healing cases.
00:58:40
PRESTON DENNETT
I've documented over 300. I put out a new book, The Healing Power of UFOs, because Barbara Lamb has cases. Bud Hopkins, David Jacobs, John Mack, Tim Beckley, Timothy Good, Brad Steiger, Jacques Vallée,
00:58:56
PRESTON DENNETT
All of them, Edith Fiore, Ray Hernandez, I could go on and on. They all have healing cases. Don't tell me for one second they're here to hurt us. Because when someone's taken on board, the message they get over and over again is, why are you messing around with nuclear power?
00:59:10
PRESTON DENNETT
What's wrong with you? You're on a pathway to self-destruction. Stop chopping down the forests. You're polluting your planet. War and aggression and greed and corruption is choking your society.
00:59:22
PRESTON DENNETT
Over and over again, the messages are very much... trying to help us. Yes, it's scary for people. Yes, there's a lot of confusion surrounding the subject. And certainly an encounter can cause trauma for people. I'm not going to gaslight anybody.
00:59:38
PRESTON DENNETT
It's their encounter.
00:59:38
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:59:39
PRESTON DENNETT
i am not here to say, oh, that didn't happen to you. I understand. But no, I don't think the evidence supports them coming here to hurt people or scare them or take over in any way.
Bringing UFO Information to the Mainstream
00:59:55
Lee Hatfield
I absolutely love that answer. It absolutely puts it into perspective for everybody. so question I hate to say this, but this is unfortunately coming to an end. i could talk to you all night, but I don't think my wife would let me.
01:00:14
Lee Hatfield
We've probably got other things to do as well. So what's next on the agenda Preston Denet?
01:00:21
PRESTON DENNETT
Well, I'm always working on this subject. You know, I'm a dog with a bone. I'm not going to let it go until the subject goes mainstream and it cover up classes.
01:00:32
PRESTON DENNETT
I'm going to keep at it. I'm working on another book, number 33, think it is, a sequel to my book Symmetry about Dolly Safran.
01:00:43
PRESTON DENNETT
I'm working on another book about UFO encounters. I've got my YouTube channel where I'm putting out information as fast as I can a very objective, facts only, not cherry picking or shoe fitting or pushing a narrative way, just releasing the information, the facts as we know it.
01:01:04
PRESTON DENNETT
So yeah, I'm pretty active. I've got several irons in the fire, so to speak. I think this subject is so important. Just think, you know people say we have an energy crisis. oh No, we don't really, that's manufactured.
01:01:18
PRESTON DENNETT
We've got sources.
01:01:18
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
01:01:20
PRESTON DENNETT
People say we have an economic crisis. I'm like, well, I don't think so because we're funneling so much money into this. If you look into it, if you follow the dollar the money, it's crazy.
01:01:31
PRESTON DENNETT
you know an environmental crisis, well, yeah. And the ETs have been warning us about it for a very long time and we don't need fossil fuels. All of this could be solved. This subject is so important.
01:01:42
PRESTON DENNETT
We all deserve to know the truth. I'm so glad you're doing this work because every one of us plays a role. It's very important. So thank you for giving me the opportunity. I'm very passionate about this, as you can tell.
01:01:54
Lee Hatfield
i I kind of got that just a little bit.
01:01:57
PRESTON DENNETT
Okay, good.
01:01:58
Lee Hatfield
but But Preston, it's been an absolute pleasure. Like I said, I could talk to you all night. Keep up the good work. And I look forward to seeing you on the on your next TV show.
01:02:10
Lee Hatfield
I'm going to try to read some of your books. I know there's a lot of them. I will try to read some. But for now, thank you very much. It's been an absolute pleasure talking to you. You have a great rest of the evening.
01:02:21
PRESTON DENNETT
I sure will. Thank you.
01:02:23
Lee Hatfield
Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye.