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S2 E7 - Kevin Otte - Producer and Investigator, Haunted Discoveries
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From watching Unsolved Mysteries on TV, and reading the Time Life Mystic Places books, Kevin has always been interested in the paranormal.
His first investigation was the McCune College in Louisiana, Missouri, and this is where he got his first EVP, and as a deputy on the road, seeing a UFO, he was totally hooked on the paranormal.
After meeting Brandon Alvis in 2009, this started a friendship that accumulated in the creation of Haunted Discoveries
The Haunted Discoveries team are proud in the fact that everything is done in-house, the pre and post production, reviewing of the footage, location finding, everything. All the evidence you see is 100% legit
A few of the outstanding cases he remembers was Hall Place, bed and breakfast in Kentucky, when they used a Tripwire and encountered direct communication, another was the shadow up the staircase in the Louisville Bourbon Inn and caught that shadow walking up that staircase, and finally Harriman Hospital in Tennessee, where unexplained lights appeared from behind locked doors.
Kevin also enlightened me on what the future holds for Haunted Discoveries.
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Transcript
Intro
00:00:12
Kevin Otte
Yeah.
Introduction to Kevin Oddy
00:00:12
Lee Hatfield
Hello, everybody, and welcome to the latest episode of Super Paranormal Chronicles. Tonight, I've got somebody special. I have got Kevin Oddy. We've just been speaking about i saying that correctly.
00:00:26
Lee Hatfield
For you people that are out there, you might know Kevin from a small little TV show called Haunted Discoveries, where he is a producer and an investigator. And then we'll get into what the rest of it does a little bit later. Kevin, thank you for your time, and thank you for joining me.
00:00:43
Kevin Otte
Thanks for having me on.
00:00:45
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, I kind of got the impression that you you were kind of told, sort of like, just just answer this guy. Answer this guy's email, will you? sir
00:00:54
Kevin Otte
They're like, you want to do this? was like, yeah, I'll do it.
00:00:56
Lee Hatfield
yeah Yeah.
00:00:57
Kevin Otte
was like a good time.
00:00:58
Lee Hatfield
Well, and that's how it all starts, isn't it? That's how you get your connections and sort of like... yeah but But just because, like, Brandon sent you, it don't it doesn't mean that he's off the hook.
00:01:09
Lee Hatfield
Brandon, if you watch this, you're not off the hook, dude.
00:01:13
Lee Hatfield
Okay, so...
Journey into the Paranormal
00:01:15
Lee Hatfield
What I normally get people to do is to start at the very beginning.
00:01:17
Kevin Otte
you
00:01:19
Lee Hatfield
I know that we've we've just been talking about you spent time as as a deputy and you and you've served in a jail on on on the correct side of the bars, not on the wrong side.
00:01:30
Lee Hatfield
But if you want to tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got into the paranormal world, and then we'll take it from there.
00:01:37
Kevin Otte
Oh, gosh. So, yeah, I grew up in southeast Missouri. And so i remember when I was little, we spent a lot of time, you know, just driving gravel roads, telling ghost stories, stuff like that. So it's always kind but kind of been an interest to me.
00:01:50
Kevin Otte
And I think one of the TV shows that kind of really got me into a lot of the unexplained stuff was the original Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack. That and the Time Life Mystic Places books.
00:02:04
Kevin Otte
Like those commercials, I actually still have some of them books. So I really got kind of got into stuff then.
00:02:07
Lee Hatfield
Oh, cool.
00:02:09
Kevin Otte
And it was always like, you know, let's go around. Let's just look, see what we can find. Let's hit gravel roads, tell ghost stories. to that with mom and dad sitting in the backseat. We just go driving around gravel and stuff. And then when I was working for the sheriff's department, I started doing some side work for a private investigator in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. And him and his wife had a team there.
00:02:28
Kevin Otte
And we got to talking about it one day and he's like, well, don't you come to one of our meetings? So did that. he's like, well, we're going to go to my, this house my brother has up in Louisiana, Missouri, which is, think it was just north of St. Louis. He's going to go spend the weekend up there. You should come along.
00:02:45
Kevin Otte
Let's go. i'm I'm ready. We'll go. So we go up and we spend the weekend in this house and the house was built in 1864-ish maybe. sixty four i maybe It's called the, it was originally, I believe called the McCoon, McCoon college. It was the first co-ed college West of the Mississippi.
00:03:06
Lee Hatfield
it.
00:03:06
Kevin Otte
And so we spent the weekend in that house and, you know, that's when I called my first EVP and I was just kind of hooked on everything after that. So I'd kind of joined their group. We started going around to different places in Missouri, Illinois, stuff like that.
00:03:19
Kevin Otte
And then in 20, 2009, when i moved to Los Angeles, I was looking for teams out there and I talked to a few people and I hit up Brandon, which we didn't really connect at first because he lived, believe we've been sure, which was a couple hours from LA. And so we talked online a little bit.
00:03:38
Kevin Otte
Then actually got to meet him at an event at Linda Vista hospital in l LA. And we just kind of stayed friends ever since we hit a couple investigations together.
00:03:46
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:03:47
Kevin Otte
we hit the queen Mary and stuff like that. And then, 2018, when I moved to Kentucky, I did some movies here and then i was talking to the people I work with and then it's like, Hey, you know, got this guy does some documentary stuff.
Producing Haunted Discoveries
00:04:02
Kevin Otte
So, you know, you guys are kind of into the paranormal. don't you let us put together a series? And it kind of all took off from there.
00:04:10
Lee Hatfield
And it it really sounds like it was just like everything kind of fell at your feet. And it's sort of like here. And it it's so rare for that to happen because yeah nowadays there's so many paranormal teams. So they literally like police officers hiding. They all come up like out of nowhere.
00:04:28
Lee Hatfield
so and And there's so many of them. And everybody wants to be on TV. But. That's all good and well. However, yeah, a lot of the stuff you get, it's okay. Yeah. Great having having a TV show because you, you guys show things the right way of how to do stuff.
00:04:47
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:04:48
Kevin Otte
And I think the biggest the biggest thing that I really like and appreciate about our show is between myself, Brandon, Mustafa, and Craig, everything from pre-production through post is done in-house kind of through the four of us.
00:05:04
Kevin Otte
You have a lot of the other shows where you have your talent that comes in, they film, they leave, the show goes off to somebody else to edit, somebody else to story produce. Ours isn't like that. We do everything. So before we start, even a couple months in advance, we're reaching out to locations, even where we can lock in. I'm building a schedule.
00:05:21
Kevin Otte
You know, Mustafa's kind of writing in the, it's non-scripted, but we'll do like a Zoom call with all the locations we lock in ahead of time, just kind of get the story of the place. You know, what's the hotspots, what's the stories, what's, you know, going on there and that kind of stuff. And we'll just kind of make bullet points based off of that, kind of what we want to hit. And a lot of times that'll all change once we get to a location.
00:05:42
Kevin Otte
You know, you may talk about this and this and this on a Zoom, and then you get there and you're like, oh, yeah, we forgot about this here. And then it opens up a whole other can of worms that takes you a whole different direction.
00:05:50
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:05:50
Kevin Otte
But with Brandon also being the editor, you know, and being there and kind of show running everything, he already has in his mind when he gets to the edit how things are going fall into place and kind of what we have and stuff like that.
00:06:03
Kevin Otte
And so it makes it a lot easier to put together and we put together how we want people to see it, not how somebody that doesn't really care about the project and is just doing it for a paycheck wants to put it out.
00:06:14
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Yeah. And wait it is so similar how your team is and how we are, because
Challenges in Reviewing and Editing
00:06:22
Lee Hatfield
we've got a guy who is in the film and industry in Ottawa here.
00:06:28
Lee Hatfield
So yeah, he's our editor. So he's the one that actually puts everything together. And he says it takes so long to do to do all that.
00:06:38
Kevin Otte
e
00:06:39
Lee Hatfield
People think that yeah it's like clicking your fingers if it's done. But for like 15 minutes can take a good two or three or four hours of editing to get it just right.
00:06:49
Kevin Otte
Oh, yeah.
00:06:52
Lee Hatfield
So are you actually involved in that as well, the editing part of it?
00:06:52
Kevin Otte
And like, whoop's for then
00:06:55
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:06:55
Kevin Otte
no, Brandon does the editing. The only thing I do on the post side, really, besides like wrapping out, because I handle all the financials. I handle the expense reports. I handle all the tracking. I handle the budget and stuff like that.
00:07:07
Kevin Otte
But I'll also sit and go through every piece of footage from each control camera from each location. And then I'll make notes off of those for Brandon for the edit.
00:07:17
Lee Hatfield
And that's...
00:07:17
Kevin Otte
I'll go through each one. I'll be like, oh, this here's the here's the the time code for when this happens. Or you know nobody's nobody's in this room at this time or in this house. OK, think we picked up a voice here.
00:07:28
Kevin Otte
What do you think? And I'll send him the time codes for everything on that clip. That way, when he uploads it, he can just go through and see what there is and see how that cuts in together.
00:07:36
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And, like, yeah, that that part of reviewing can be so tedious at times.
00:07:43
Kevin Otte
And so time consuming.
00:07:43
Lee Hatfield
Like, could you... yeah exactly You've got to do it like real time, second by second. And a lot of people don't understand that. We've got loads of evidence going back for the last year that we still haven't reviewed because there's so much of it.
00:07:59
Lee Hatfield
And you can only do, there's only so much before you lose your mind, right?
00:07:59
Kevin Otte
Yeah.
00:08:03
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:08:04
Kevin Otte
Will you figure, you know, of four or five hour investigation times a minimum of three, four, five cameras times 12 locations. That's a lot of hours of footage just to sit there and watch a screen.
00:08:17
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, it's sort of like...
00:08:18
Kevin Otte
But we do, we go go through every single, every single one. Cause you know, I don't want to miss anything. And you know, if we have something, we want to make sure it gets out there and.
00:08:27
Lee Hatfield
So
Film School and Unexplained UFO
00:08:28
Lee Hatfield
when you started doing the filming, because obviously you you've got that that that film career behind you as a second assistant director, is that correct?
00:08:39
Kevin Otte
I did, well, when I was in LA, I graduated film school in LA in 2011. And I started getting work, like, before I graduated, like just a couple months into film school, I started getting work.
00:08:51
Kevin Otte
And I started out as a production assistant, like most people, and then worked up to a coordinator, production manager, line producer. i did a couple movies where I was a second, second assistant director. But I did mostly, most of my stuff fell in the production manager and line producer roles.
00:09:07
Lee Hatfield
So before you really got involved with Brandon and Haunted Discoveries, especially when you as a deputy, did you actually have anything that you could not explain on the road?
00:09:24
Kevin Otte
The only thing I've really seen once, it you know, i I don't want to say it was a UFO, but it's one I couldn't explain because I was just sitting there late one night watching traffic.
00:09:35
Kevin Otte
Well, there wasn't no traffic. I was just sitting there late one night on the side of the road. And it was this it was a small county that I worked for, which was good in a way. And I was just watching this light go across the sky, and i was like, it looks like a plane.
00:09:50
Kevin Otte
But then it just stops. sits there for a minute and then shoots back at a 45 degree angle kind of away into, into space. And I just sat there for a minute.
00:10:01
Kevin Otte
Like I just seen that.
00:10:04
Kevin Otte
What was that?
00:10:07
Lee Hatfield
yeah and it's sort of like i am not going back to the station i am not telling these people because because like yeah we both know that we've both been in like emergency services so if we if we'd come out with something like that back at the back at the station you would have got ridiculed something so it'd be
00:10:27
Kevin Otte
Now, there was a retirement home that was in town that i know the city police got called there a couple times because they would residents would call and say, hey, I looked out the window.
00:10:36
Kevin Otte
This kid was out there playing with the wind chimes in the tree, and when I opened the door, nobody was there. we've got that call they They got that call a couple times from different people at different times, and you know they didn't know the other one's story.
00:10:44
Lee Hatfield
Wow.
00:10:49
Kevin Otte
So you know to me, it's like, okay, what what did what they see?
00:10:53
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, that's a good point. And the I've told this this a few times, but the only time that I've really had anything paranormal when I was a paramedic, I was doing a cardiac arrest and I was working with a new guy and he literally said that the spirit of the patient is stood behind me telling me to stop. It's like, I'm sorry, what?
00:11:13
Lee Hatfield
but Okay, okay. But yeah, it like like that was that kind
00:11:15
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
Haunted Scuba Diving Sites
00:11:18
Lee Hatfield
of really opened my eyes up to it.
00:11:21
Lee Hatfield
So before we go into haunted discoveries, like I say, yeah you've been a road deputy, which you just mentioned. You're also a certified advanced scuba diver with dry suit qualified as well.
00:11:40
Lee Hatfield
Have you ever had anything happen when you've been diving that you can't explain?
00:11:47
Kevin Otte
Not yet. We were actually me and my friend went down to Florida a couple years ago and we had did a dive with this place called Jenny Springs.
00:11:48
Lee Hatfield
and correct
00:11:55
Kevin Otte
And while we were standing there, you know, kind of in line waiting to get our tanks and stuff like that, I was just looking at this place online. And it's like, Oh, yeah, this is one of like, the top nine most haunted dive sites. I was like, Wait, wait what? what okay And so I definitely want to go back. We we got there a little late because we i think we had another dive of that morning.
00:12:17
Kevin Otte
And so we got there wasn't too long. I think we had like an hour by the time we got our tanks till it like closed. So we didn't have a lot of time to go mess around there. definitely a place I want to go back to.
00:12:29
Kevin Otte
But I would love to go look more into that. you know paranormal stuff people say that you know get by some of these shipwrecks and you can see like what looks like somebody else swimming then you go around like nobody's there and so i mean we have some gopros that are modified to full spectrum i mean what's that going to look like underwater if you would see something you know how's that going to show up and i get a waterproof infrared illuminator you know that's that will stay working when you're 60 70 80 feet underwater
00:12:48
Lee Hatfield
Oh, man. Yeah, that would be that would be pretty That sounds like a new project.
00:13:04
Kevin Otte
That I like looking into USOs because you get a lot of stories about USOs now even more and more.
00:13:08
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Yeah. So I expect results. like You've got a project. Let's get this moving. I expect to see results pretty soon.
00:13:20
Kevin Otte
That's a goal.
00:13:21
Lee Hatfield
There we go. So, obviously, you're here because of haunted discoveries. It started 2022, 2023, and you were there from very beginning. and you were there from the very beginning
00:13:33
Kevin Otte
Right.
00:13:34
Lee Hatfield
so What was it like being on the set, you doing a a paranormal investigation, yeah episode one, scene one kind of thing.
00:13:46
Lee Hatfield
You're now this side of the camera rather than being behind the camera. So how is that entire experience for you being being one of the investigators and then actually searching for something of a paranormal nature?
00:14:03
Kevin Otte
I
Transition to On-Camera Investigator
00:14:03
Kevin Otte
mean, when I lived out in l L.A., I got with a group out there, and we did a lot of investigating, but we do all the recording ourselves and stuff like that. And, you know, because of my law enforcement background, I was also cast in a couple different shows for Investigation Discovery out there playing a cop.
00:14:18
Kevin Otte
And so I've been on the other side of the camera a few times, so that wasn't anything that was, like, new to me.
00:14:22
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:14:23
Kevin Otte
But, yeah, it was – I think – I feel like I fell into it pretty fast. And, you know, when youre you're doing it with some people that you've investigated with before, it kind of makes it a little bit easier.
00:14:37
Kevin Otte
And, you know, it's not like we were just all brought there. Nobody knew who anybody was. You know, we all kind of knew each other.
00:14:42
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:14:43
Kevin Otte
And so that kind of made it a little bit easier as well to get the ball rolling on things.
00:14:48
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because i I remember a TV show in the UK back in the 90s called almost the same as yours. It's like Most Haunted, this was called. And it had a presenter with a film crew, but it didn't have any of the infrared or yeah those kind of things like we have now.
00:15:11
Lee Hatfield
It was literally a camera crew going into. And the only way that I can really describe it was like a screen fest because you would you would get the random stones being thrown, but obviously you couldn't see where they're coming from, probably from behind the cameraman kind of thing.
00:15:19
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:15:27
Lee Hatfield
and Yes, it brought the paranormal world onto TV, but you did not get that impression that it was being taken as seriously as what it should be.
00:15:41
Lee Hatfield
Because from then to now, it's taken a lot more serious now than what it was in the late 90s, for example.
00:15:51
Kevin Otte
Yeah. And with ours, one thing I can you know say that I can cross my heart, put my hand on the Bible, whatever you want to say, everything you see in our episodes is 100% legit.
00:16:02
Kevin Otte
As you see it is how it happened. Nothing's manipulated, nothing's put in. As you see you see it, how it unfolded.
00:16:11
Lee Hatfield
And that's a good thing. And we kind of abide by that kind of rule as well, because it only takes one time for you to make something up and your reputation goes out the window completely.
00:16:21
Kevin Otte
mm-hmm
00:16:27
Kevin Otte
okay
00:16:28
Lee Hatfield
And but I was at an investigation before Christmas and we've got the similar site kind of thing. We've got multiple cameras and I literally felt like I'd got my hand held.
00:16:40
Lee Hatfield
which was a weird sensation. My immediate thought was it's got to be a cobweb. But my hand was hanging out my pant pocket. My elbow was sticking out. i yeah So if it was a spider web or anything like that, would have been taken out by my shoulder or my elbow. It wouldn't have it wouldn't have hit my hand. But only I experienced that.
00:17:05
Lee Hatfield
And yeah nobody can say it didn't happen because I felt that sensation. So have you ever had anything like that happen to you that you can't really explain?
00:17:16
Kevin Otte
We were actually, actually twice. There was one time we were at the old Lincoln Heights jail, downtown LA. And, you know, it has high high ceilings in it. And we're walking down this,
00:17:28
Kevin Otte
think it was a hallway upstairs. and And I felt like the spiderweb thing on my head. And then when I thought about it for a second, because I turned around and looked and I didn't see anything, but I was like, wait a minute, I was walking forward. But in that feeling, it came from back to front, not front to back, like I had walked into it.
00:17:46
Kevin Otte
So it came like, it came over this way. And then the second time was at the Goldfield High School in Goldfield, Nevada. And we standing and then I just had my arms kind of crossed like this and it just felt like something just kind of come up and rub my hand like that.
00:18:02
Lee Hatfield
And it's like, yeah, Yeah, we both experience that, and our natural reaction is to go, did that just happen?
00:18:11
Kevin Otte
Mm hmm.
00:18:12
Lee Hatfield
And then you have to try, before you say it to anybody else that it's happened, you have to try to explain it to yourself what you've just experienced and like, hang on, did I really feel that?
00:18:25
Lee Hatfield
and And for those few seconds, it's a weird sensation to go,
00:18:26
Kevin Otte
I
00:18:30
Lee Hatfield
Right, wait a minute. I just felt this. Did I really feel it? You know you did.
00:18:36
Kevin Otte
okay
00:18:37
Lee Hatfield
But then you have to like get your brain around it to think, yeah, I've just been stroked or I've just been touched. And it's like, OK.
00:18:46
Lee Hatfield
i didn' So let's go to obviously and back into hunt.
00:18:49
Kevin Otte
think somebody snuck on the floor.
00:18:51
Kevin Otte
think somebody just knocked on my door.
00:18:53
Lee Hatfield
we Are we good? though
00:18:56
Kevin Otte
Yeah, we'll we'll go ahead. i catch up in a few minutes.
00:18:58
Lee Hatfield
Okay, yeah. So obviously you've done, i think it's three seasons of Haunted Discoveries now.
00:19:07
Kevin Otte
We have, there's four seasons out, but we've actually filmed seven.
00:19:11
Lee Hatfield
Oh, wow.
00:19:12
Kevin Otte
So we're still actually working on the edit for season five. But yeah, we did four seasons of Haunted Discoveries. That's how we've done four seasons of Haunted Discoveries Family Spirits, which is our spinoff series.
00:19:24
Lee Hatfield
Yes. Yeah, so I know that we were a bit behind in Canada. I think it was like a year later after it had been in the US before Canada released it. But yeah, it used to be the Friday night ritual.
00:19:37
Lee Hatfield
Okay, it's coming up to 9pm. Haunted Discovery Zone. Yeah, let's get everything comfortable and then just watch the show. So I'm going to ask you a really difficult question now.
Significant Investigations and Authenticity
00:19:50
Lee Hatfield
Out of all the locations you've been to, And you've been to a lot now. yeah I've just found out that you've recorded a lot more than what we actually know about.
00:20:02
Lee Hatfield
Do any of them really stand out? And if so, why?
00:20:07
Kevin Otte
I'll tell you what, one really interesting one. It was actually a two-parter. want to say it was in season four, which I believe they have season four on Haunt TV's YouTube page.
00:20:22
Lee Hatfield
OK.
00:20:22
Kevin Otte
you that, you should be able to pull it up. I think they have single episodes, and then they have – I know they have one that's got, like, the complete season on it. But we did a little Utopian Society in Tennessee. It was in Rugby, Tennessee.
00:20:37
Kevin Otte
And that's a place where –
00:20:42
Kevin Otte
We started asking about someone that hasn't really been mentioned there before. And over a couple of days of being there, it seemed like we actually had direct communication with this person, both in the house and some really interesting stuff by his grave in the cemetery.
00:21:02
Kevin Otte
If you get a chance to watch that one, that's that one kind of threw us for a loop a little bit because not a lot of people talked about him. No one's ever tried to reach out to him. They didn't really know about the story a lot.
00:21:12
Lee Hatfield
Oh, wow.
00:21:13
Kevin Otte
We kind of unfolded a lot of that when we got there. And that's when we did all this research. And then we learned this kind of when we get there and things kind of shoot off to a different direction.
00:21:22
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. I know one that really stood out for me, and I think you've been back to the code the location more than once. I can't remember what building was, but you'd got, and I'm going to call them wrong now,
00:21:35
Lee Hatfield
your, the long length of lights, the the name escapes.
00:21:38
Kevin Otte
The tripwire?
00:21:40
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. trip That's it. trip The name completely escaped me. And you were communicating with a lady from the property. And then there was like next season where you actually went back.
00:21:47
Kevin Otte
So that was Hall Place. Hall Place bed and breakfast.
00:21:51
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Yeah. That.
00:21:54
Kevin Otte
That was interesting. You know, we' even had her, one of her relatives on, you know, that first episode as well.
00:22:03
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:22:03
Kevin Otte
And, you know, when that episode came out, they were all they were all blown away by it. But, yeah, that one was that was a very heartfelt episode. That was in season one, and we went back in season two.
00:22:16
Lee Hatfield
That's right, yeah yeah. And it's like like you said at the beginning, like yeah nothing that you guys do is fake. and It's all genuine.
00:22:25
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:22:25
Lee Hatfield
For somebody that doesn't know the ins and outs of paranormal investigation, to see that, it's just going to mind-blowing to see that yeah the interaction between that entity, your devices that we're using, and you people as individuals,
00:22:46
Kevin Otte
isn it
00:22:48
Lee Hatfield
and
00:22:48
Kevin Otte
and it's uh it's it's completely different when you're there and when you're watching on tv which i'm sure you know as well Because watching it on TV, you don't get you don't get the chill bumps, you don't get that surge of energy that comes through with it.
00:23:03
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah. and And it's weird like that because you can go to the most haunted location that people say is haunted and get nothing.
00:23:15
Kevin Otte
hmm.
00:23:15
Lee Hatfield
And then you can go to a place that, you it could be a roadside cafe or something. And then you pick up on something that you least expect it. and And that's the good thing about doing what we do.
00:23:27
Lee Hatfield
know, you never know what to expect. And, know, as I say, you expect the unexpected.
00:23:34
Kevin Otte
I mean, one of the most interesting catches we've had was in season one, episode two, when we did the Louisville Bourbon Inn and caught that shadow walking up that staircase.
00:23:45
Lee Hatfield
Yes.
00:23:46
Kevin Otte
I mean, that one, we didn't even know we had that till like a couple days later. We had no idea because at that time crew had already left to go back to the hotel.
00:23:57
Kevin Otte
It was just myself, Brandon, Mustafa, and another guy, Zach, that was there overnight. And that was one of the stories there. And Angelique, who we interviewed in that episode, you know she had that story for a long time. She said, yeah, I've seen the shadow walk up that staircase before.
00:24:15
Kevin Otte
And then when she's seen that to validate what she had seen, because she had questioned herself for all these years, and that actually validated it. Because it's like, whenever we catch something like that, and i go to review evidence, that's when kind of my law enforcement background kicks in. And I look at things like I'm trying to put together a court case.
00:24:34
Kevin Otte
So it's like, okay, if a defense attorney watched this, what would they say to try to ruin my credibility? They'd be like, oh well, that's just, that was somebody walking up the stairs.
00:24:44
Kevin Otte
No, this is what it looks like with somebody walking up the stairs. Well, you backlit somebody and that was their shadow going up the stairs. Okay, but to do that, I would have to have a matching staircase on the other side.
00:24:55
Kevin Otte
And when you see the shadow, it is actually between the banister and the wall. It's actually on the steps. So yeah, that's that's not gonna work either.
00:25:03
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, and I
Debunking Myths at Waverly
00:25:06
Lee Hatfield
100% agree. last Last June, July, we went to a small hotel in New York State, Braylock Inn, in a small place called Casanovia.
00:25:18
Lee Hatfield
And it's a, yeah, I highly recommend you go because it's so active for many different reasons. But in one of the bedrooms that we was in, we had a a cabinet in a corner with a TV on.
00:25:32
Lee Hatfield
And as we're setting up the tripods, the door just creaks open. Nobody's near it. And we just, all three of us just stopped and went, like, yeah, the obvious, that door just creaked open.
00:25:45
Lee Hatfield
But then we stopped what we were doing and for the next hour, 30 40 minutes we're trying to reenact what we've just experienced and it was a it was a wooden latch on the door and we tried to get it like the minuscule amount of connection was banging the sides we're jumping on the floor and we could not get it to reopen no matter what we did
00:25:55
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:26:09
Lee Hatfield
So the fact that people actually, yeah you try to debunk it by trying to replicate it and you can't, you then go, hang on a minute. i i can't I can't debunk this like I wanted to. So then you have to put yeah your paranormal head on to go, well, maybe, just maybe, that was somebody trying to let us know that we were there.
00:26:33
Kevin Otte
yeah Our other probably biggest one that I have zero explanation for and it still drives me nuts to this day. i think it was season three.
00:26:44
Kevin Otte
I can't think of the episode number when we went to Harriman Hospital in Tennessee. i think the episode is Angel hell of Death.
00:26:48
Lee Hatfield
The lights. Yeah.
00:26:51
Kevin Otte
That I have no idea. Unfortunately, I wasn't downstairs when that happened. I was on the fourth fourth floor by myself. But I was down there whenever she unlocked that door and went through there because that door was bicycle chain shut because there's black mold and stuff in there, so they don't let anybody in there.
00:27:10
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:27:11
Kevin Otte
But the way that shot through, and think what gets to me the most about it is you don't see it as much on the screen, but when you look at the handheld monitor that Brandon's holding, right before that happens, you actually see a shadow cross the frame and shoot down the hallway.
00:27:28
Lee Hatfield
Wow. Yeah.
00:27:28
Kevin Otte
And then at the time that it would go through that door is when that light comes through on the other side. And with the doors, you know, you have the two doors there, you have the windows in each side, but where that shoots through at, it's got that circle right there, that circle of light.
00:27:42
Kevin Otte
And it's like, what in the hell is that?
00:27:45
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:27:46
Kevin Otte
It's a solid door. Where is this circle of light coming from on this side when the light's imitating from this side?
00:27:53
Lee Hatfield
yeah because
00:27:53
Kevin Otte
And that's, you know, I have zero explanation for that. I have,
00:27:58
Lee Hatfield
as soon as that episode finished, i actually, I actually, yeah, not tweeted now, but I tweeted Brandon and went, my God, dude, those lights. And he I know, right. so But it's stuff like that that,
00:28:12
Lee Hatfield
is our bread and butter. That's what we we look for. that's what we If we can't explain something, it's absolutely great because it means what we're doing is the right thing.
00:28:23
Kevin Otte
evening
00:28:25
Lee Hatfield
but And I always explain to people that no matter if we get an EVP or we get a shadow or you you feel like you're being touched, we never say that is a ghost. We always say we cannot explain that.
00:28:41
Kevin Otte
unexplained
00:28:41
Lee Hatfield
But of that's it. But unfortunately, that unexplained pile just getting just getting bigger and bigger.
00:28:48
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:28:49
Lee Hatfield
And one of the things, you could no doubt you'll be able to tell me exactly which episode.
00:28:55
Kevin Otte
I
00:28:56
Lee Hatfield
Brandon and Mustafa were talking about infrasound and the train went past and Mustafa said, yeah a bet a train's going to come past in a minute.
00:29:06
Kevin Otte
was at Grand Victorian Inn.
00:29:08
Lee Hatfield
There you go. i knew you'd be able to do it.
00:29:10
Kevin Otte
when I think Mustafa bet somebody five bucks. and like
00:29:14
Lee Hatfield
Yes, that's right. Yeah. But that's another thing. yeah The fact that you're talking about something that a lot of people don't understand with infrasound and a perfect example of what it does and what happens happened right on camera.
00:29:22
Kevin Otte
that
00:29:32
Kevin Otte
There's been several places we've been to where the the location sits right next to a train track or right next to a river or a combination of both. And it seems like that always seems to amp up activity a lot.
00:29:46
Kevin Otte
especially you got to train, you got to water running at the same time, especially if you have a storm there as well. We've had a couple, of shit ill just about the first three quarters of season four, it stormed almost every day.
00:30:00
Kevin Otte
and season five, we had some massive thunderstorms.
00:30:01
Lee Hatfield
Wow.
00:30:03
Kevin Otte
I mean, you're talking thunderstorms, tornado watches, everything like that. And it really sets the aesthetic because we film right through it all. You know, thunder, lightning and
00:30:16
Lee Hatfield
That's crazy.
00:30:16
Kevin Otte
It's it thanks for a lot of fun.
00:30:16
Lee Hatfield
So like, oh, it's a tornado watch, but we're okay. Yeah, we're good.
00:30:22
Kevin Otte
Yeah. Walk it off.
00:30:23
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, Exactly. So for all these locations, do you kind of have like a a set period of time on site?
00:30:33
Lee Hatfield
Like, is it every location you do three days or five days? How how long do you actually stay on site for each episode?
00:30:42
Kevin Otte
So it it kind of depends. a lot of the locations we'll get there, we'll spend a day doing the interviews and B-roll and stuff like that. And the second day is when we'll do kind of the the cast interviews and the investigation. But like when we did rugby, since we did, I think, four locations there, we were locked down there for, I think, six or seven days. We were in the same locations because we flopped around to so many different houses in that area.
00:31:06
Kevin Otte
And it's it's a small place. You could actually walk to all the locations. But we all, cast and crew all spent the night in these haunted locations because there's a bunch of like Airbnbs there. So you can you can rent these out and actually go stay there, which is, you know, really cool.
00:31:19
Lee Hatfield
Oh, cool.
00:31:21
Kevin Otte
And that's kind of what we tried to do when we started this this series is we tried to pick places that weren't as well known in the paranormal world. I mean, we didn't even hit Waverly till season three.
00:31:33
Kevin Otte
And that's right here in Kentucky with us. But we did mostly.
00:31:36
Lee Hatfield
Right on your doorstep. Right on your doorstep, dude.
00:31:40
Kevin Otte
Yeah, but we and we didn't hit that still season three, but we do a lot did a lot of places that just weren't as known, weren't as investigated and it really benefited as well, I think.
00:31:48
Lee Hatfield
Now, yeah.
00:31:53
Lee Hatfield
And you mentioned Waverly and some of the kind of the expectations of of Waverly and like Eloise is another one that there's so much that people experience.
00:32:01
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:32:04
Lee Hatfield
The expectation is there from the get go. So do you kind of have the same feeling if you if you go to a location and you've heard loads of stories? Or is it because Waverly and Eloise, for example, are so notorious and so well known that you kind of approach in a different way and you get a different sensation when you first turn up?
00:32:31
Kevin Otte
I mean, the place is kind of intimidating when you first see it anyway.
00:32:37
Kevin Otte
But with going into like the history of it and stuff like that, we tried to focus a little bit more on some of the stories that weren't as well known there and not as much as what you hear on every single episode. You know, there's been some locations that we've been to that have been on other shows where we went in and we're able to debunk a lot of the myths that some of the other shows had put out about them.
00:32:58
Kevin Otte
And that's from doing the historical research and actually, you know, referencing like the Sanborn fire maps and stuff like that. And, you know, trying to really dig into the actual stories of the place.
00:33:10
Kevin Otte
But I mean, Waverly, cause we filmed
00:33:17
Kevin Otte
season three and four of family spirits there as well. So we spent a significant amount of time at that place. And when we were done, you know, was, think that last night, everybody had left and I was there. I was the last one out.
00:33:31
Kevin Otte
Just me and the security guard, but he was like down at their building.
Experiences at Waverly Hills
00:33:33
Kevin Otte
And I just went and walked through the whole building, every floor, kind of doing a trash sweep by myself, just to make sure we didn't leave any trash behind or any equipment. And it was actually comfortable.
00:33:44
Kevin Otte
I didn't feel bad at all just walking, walking the hallways with a flashlight, you know, just looking for trash and stuff like that. i mean, every now and then you'd feel like somebody's in a room watching you.
00:33:55
Kevin Otte
But I never felt any negativity walking through the whole place by myself.
00:34:01
Lee Hatfield
do you believe in the theory that the longer you stay at the location the more activity there is do you think that's a true fact
00:34:09
Kevin Otte
I feel like based on some of the locations we've been, the longer we're there, the more the spirits kind of watch and realize that you're there to tell a story and you're not there to, you know, run around like a bunch of chickens with your head cut off and just make up stuff and run around screaming and stuff like that. I think they can sense that.
00:34:30
Kevin Otte
You know, and a lot of times when we go to places and when the owner leaves, they'll be like, hey, so my friends are coming in, you know, talk to him, be nice, treat him good. And it seems like the spirits kind of respond to that as well.
00:34:41
Lee Hatfield
And i couldn't have said that much better because if I go on investigation, I always like to to kind of go away by myself and have a bit of a wonder.
00:34:54
Lee Hatfield
And I'm so courteous and so polite when I'm speaking to somebody. And then you get other people coming in, yeah oh, I'm going to intimidate the spirit. And it's sort of like, oh, I never got anything. why what I wonder why.
00:35:09
Kevin Otte
Usually if they're going to do that, they'll make up what they got.
00:35:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So you kind of touched on it a few minutes ago. Have you ever been to any of these locations? yeah You've got a law enforcement background. So, yeah, you've seen a lot like I've seen. But did you ever feel like you did not want to be in a location?
00:35:32
Lee Hatfield
Did it feel that bad?
00:35:34
Kevin Otte
The only
00:35:38
Kevin Otte
So there's one place that I kind of felt like I got pushed out of once, and that was before i started with the series. I actually still lived in l L.A., and that was at Yuma Prison in Arizona.
00:35:50
Kevin Otte
Going into the dark cell, I felt like I just hit this wall, and I could not penetrate it. And then I backed out, waited a few minutes, and then I was just able to walk in. But as of the series, the only place where I feel like I got semi-affected by something...
00:36:07
Kevin Otte
was epiar season three. I can't think of the episode number, but it was at a place called the Carrick Parks House in Perryville, Kentucky, which operated partially as a field hospital after the Civil War, after after the Battle of Perryville during the Civil War.
00:36:25
Kevin Otte
And that's one where I was in there and all of a sudden I just felt like dizzy. I was just kind of out of my head a little bit. And Malia, she's the one I caught in. She's like, hey, let's let's step outside for a minute.
00:36:40
Kevin Otte
But that's one place where I've i've actually felt you know a little bit affected by anything that was there. Yeah.
00:36:47
Lee Hatfield
And it's quite amusing, not in in a good way, but that people, just because you get goosebumps on your arms, yeah it's not necessarily a bad thing. You you may be feeling something, yeah the energy that's there, but it doesn't necessarily mean that something's malevolent and it's going to affect you.
00:37:12
Kevin Otte
Right.
00:37:12
Lee Hatfield
But yeah some of these locations, if there is bad energy, like you just said, turn around, walk out and yeah like regroup and then give it another shot.
00:37:27
Kevin Otte
I've never been never been scratched.
00:37:33
Kevin Otte
I think there may only have been one time when I lived in L.A. that something may have followed me home, but it didn't it didn't stay long. you know It was enough to where I woke up and thought my roommate was walking around in the room and I actually sat up and you know nobody was in there.
00:37:48
Kevin Otte
and I was just like, will you stop? I got to be up early. and Then it was like quiet the rest of the night. I woke up twice because I heard something walking around in there and I thought it was her.
00:37:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:37:58
Kevin Otte
No.
00:37:59
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. It's funny you should make you mentioned that because her in October, we did a an event with the radio local radio station. And for all intents and purpose, they were going to stay overnight. They'd got the inflatable mattresses there. They were going to stay.
00:38:18
Lee Hatfield
And then we did a few hours investigating with them. Some of the devices that we have actually went off and Yeah, it was evident that some kind of energy was there. And after the two hours investigating, was like, nope, nope, deflate the bed. We're out of here. We're not staying the night at all.
00:38:39
Kevin Otte
player.
00:38:41
Lee Hatfield
yeah, exactly. Yeah, take one for the team. So we've mentioned, you know, the places where you felt that you don't want to be.
00:38:53
Lee Hatfield
Out of all the episodes, I don't think asked you way. Do you have a favorite a place that you'd go back time and time again?
00:39:05
Kevin Otte
That's hard to narrow down.
00:39:08
Lee Hatfield
So many.
00:39:10
Kevin Otte
Well, and there's just so much more that I feel like can be learned from these locations. You know, after Brandon purchased the Polk House in Perryville, which used to be a doctor's house and apothecary, and also served as a Civil War hospital after the Battle of Perryville. we You're going to see that coming up in season five, six, and seven.
00:39:34
Kevin Otte
And we've uncovered a lot of stuff there. always a place that's good to go back to. I would honestly, there's not a place that I wouldn't go back to, I don't think. And I mean, you know, just as much as anyone that sometimes you'll go to a place and you'll have activities. Sometimes you won't. Sometimes you go back several times and you'll pick up something different each time or sometimes you may not get anything.
00:39:59
Kevin Otte
I remember the first time we did the Washoe Club in Virginia City, Nevada, we were there for three days. The first two days we had absolutely nothing. Then the third day it was like, okay, everything's, like you said earlier, comfortable with us now.
00:40:11
Kevin Otte
We've been there for a while. And then it's like they decided to come out and play.
00:40:11
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:40:15
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:40:16
Kevin Otte
But, yeah, there's there's nowhere that we've been to that I would not go back to again. I've had a blast at every location. Still so much more to learn about these places, so much more to look into.
00:40:29
Kevin Otte
And, you know, just because you don't catch something one time doesn't mean you're not going to the next.
00:40:34
Lee Hatfield
That's right. Like say, and yeah if if there's residual energy, yeah It may only happen certain times of the year anyway.
00:40:44
Lee Hatfield
So like say, there's no guarantee that, yeah as I like to tell people, yeah the entities and spirits are not entertaining monkeys.
00:40:44
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:40:53
Lee Hatfield
You can't just clip your fingers and then you get a ghost tap dancing in front of the camera. That's not how it works.
00:40:59
Kevin Otte
Right.
00:41:00
Lee Hatfield
But they expect that. that's that yeah they You go on these haunted walks and and these public events, and that's what they expect. It's sort of like, okay, is everybody ready? Right, okay, the public are going to come through in five, four, three, two, okay, go.
00:41:14
Lee Hatfield
like that's No, that's not how it works at all.
00:41:17
Kevin Otte
Like, show yourself. Who are you to tell me to show myself? Get out of here.
00:41:20
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, exactly. yeah yeah, yeah. You wouldn't do that to her to a like a living person. Right, Kevin, I want you to light spin around on the spot.
00:41:31
Lee Hatfield
It's like, no, I'm not doing it. but Okay. It's the same kind of principle. But we have a couple of jails that are close by, and one of them I actually got a stroke on the face. And I love going back to jails because of the notoriety of – Is that right word?
00:41:51
Lee Hatfield
Notority? Of of what what happened there.
00:41:54
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:41:54
Lee Hatfield
And one of my very first EVPs was in one particular jail, and it's called the Hell's Angel Wing. And i I'm going around. I've got my camera and my audio.
00:42:08
Lee Hatfield
Didn't hear anything at the time. And then I literally said, you know, if you can make a noise, make a sound. I would very much appreciate that. But on review, I heard a double breath straight after I finished speaking.
00:42:21
Lee Hatfield
And people are going, well, it was you breathing. It's like, dude, I've been a paramedic for 13 years. I know what people breathe like. And for me to stop a sentence and then go... straight it's It's not me.
00:42:34
Lee Hatfield
And I'm lucky enough to have a couple of different people that I can send evidence to. And one guy will actually break it down into voice waves. And he'll go, OK, this is you. yeah This is the noise.
00:42:47
Lee Hatfield
And they're two completely different like results. So do you guys do that if you get an EVP as well?
Using Technology in Paranormal Investigations
00:42:55
Kevin Otte
So we've, when we did, that private property in Harlan, the end of season four, that's one where we actually downloaded some stuff into the voice analysis and took a look at what we caught and how to analyze and stuff like that, which was really interesting.
00:43:11
Kevin Otte
But another thing that I found super interesting is say you pick up an EVP or something like that, and we're we're usually double mic'd. We'll have the mic that goes to our sound guy, and then we'll have a backup mic as well.
00:43:22
Kevin Otte
That way, if we get separated from him or we're a place where we lose you know connection, we still have a recording. So between the two mics and the boom, and if there's a control camera in the room, that's got audio. So you figure four mics in there.
00:43:34
Kevin Otte
You pick up an EVP, but only one mic picks it up.
00:43:38
Kevin Otte
it's like, okay, so that tells me that was no, nobody said that because nothing else. I mean, these mics are super sensitive. Nothing else picked it up. This one specific mic did.
00:43:47
Kevin Otte
And there's been a few times where we've actually heard stuff, you know, with our ears and it's also picked up on the cameras as well.
00:43:47
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:43:47
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:43:52
Kevin Otte
Yeah.
00:43:53
Lee Hatfield
yeah And yeah I've actually got yeah evidence of both kind of examples that you that you've had. And I love it when you talk to somebody Oh, yeah, what did you do at weekend? i i went yeah I went and sat in the dark for eight hours talking to myself.
00:44:09
Lee Hatfield
And then they go, why? because you're paranormal investigator. And then they go, oh, oh yeah, that's all BS. Well, why is it all BS? It doesn't exist. Well, how do you know? Have you got the evidence?
00:44:19
Lee Hatfield
Well, no.
00:44:20
Kevin Otte
And they've never went out and investigated it before in their life.
00:44:22
Lee Hatfield
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So i i go, okay, I've got some EVPs on my phone. Have a listen to these, and I want 100% explanation. but They go, well, it's you breathing.
00:44:34
Lee Hatfield
Well, no, it's not. And then there was another one in the same location. And it's like, well, what was that? Well, it must have been a car. Dude, you're in a concrete building.
00:44:44
Lee Hatfield
The nearest road's like 100 metres away. It's not a car. So what is it? Well, I don't know. Well, there you go. That's the objective of the exercise, to get to your next plane.
00:44:55
Kevin Otte
Somebody whispered behind the camera.
00:44:55
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:44:56
Kevin Otte
Yeah, nobody was behind the camera.
00:44:59
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:44:59
Kevin Otte
But it's like a lot of people that have that big an opinion have never been on investigation.
00:44:59
Lee Hatfield
and
00:45:05
Kevin Otte
They don't know anything about it. But the first time that they go and actually experience something, then it kind of – it changes you.
00:45:17
Lee Hatfield
For sure. And yeah the experiences I've probably had over the last 18 months, yeah for so for people to say it doesn't exist, I've got enough unexplained evidence to go, well, actually, this is evidence I've got that I can't explain.
00:45:38
Lee Hatfield
And the more you go out and the more frequently you go to the locations like we've mentioned, yeah potentially the more evidence
Purpose of Gathering Unexplained Evidence
00:45:45
Lee Hatfield
you're going to get. So yeah the pile is going to get bigger and bigger of stuff that you can't can't explain. And and that's that's the fun reason of why we do this, I think.
00:45:57
Kevin Otte
It's like, what can I capture that I, there's no way I can explain it.
00:45:57
Lee Hatfield
So... of
00:46:02
Kevin Otte
go with to, you know, the people, none of them can explain it. You know, that's, that's what you want to get.
00:46:06
Lee Hatfield
That's it. And i know I know Brandon will probably, like,
00:46:12
Lee Hatfield
rolling his sleep when I tell him this next bit, but we actually tested a Ouija board. But what we did, because like you guys, you guys will test stuff.
00:46:18
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:46:21
Lee Hatfield
We actually had the operators blindfolded to see what would happen. And then we had a couple of people doing the Estus method at the same time. Nothing really happened on the Ouija board apart from one of the guys, there was three guys doing it, became extremely emotional.
00:46:41
Lee Hatfield
for no apparent reason. And then one of the then one of the other girls sat behind him, started to cry. But yeah was it because of the the the the words that they were hearing? Well, not the guy that was doing the Ouija board.
00:46:57
Lee Hatfield
We can't explain why he got extremely emotional. But for the girl, yes, she was hearing the ghost box going. But then,
00:47:09
Lee Hatfield
she couldn't explain any reason why she got emotional. So, yeah, would you say that that was paranormal or was it just the the energy that was in the room at the time?
00:47:21
Lee Hatfield
You you you can't say for definite what it was, but it goes on that pile again.
00:47:24
Kevin Otte
Right. Right.
00:47:28
Kevin Otte
Now, once the next couple of seasons of Family Spirits comes out, that's when you should really watch because we when we're interviewing the people we actually monitor the environment and it turned out some pretty interesting results but that's one thing we try to do with some of our equipment is we try to get a lot of things that's not necessarily made for paranormal investigating we have the emccd camera as far as our environmental data loggers their kestrel devices that i actually contacted the national weather service and it's what they recommended and so we're using stuff that like they use out in the field and so it's
00:48:04
Kevin Otte
You know, I don't want stuff that's what some people would refer to, I guess, as garage tech.
00:48:11
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:48:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:48:12
Kevin Otte
Now, the tripwire on the Paralite and stuff like that, we've actually that stuff seems to be
00:48:19
Kevin Otte
pretty credible, I would say, when you can compare it to or when you can get a lot of the same readings on different different things at the same time.
00:48:29
Kevin Otte
one thing I like about the tripwires each one of those little lights is on its own individual sensor.
00:48:35
Kevin Otte
And then, you know, know with the pair of light, I know walkie can set it off, which anytime that's ever happened, we always mark it was like, you know, that was a walkie we did we did that that's nothing paranormal. Yes, it went off that that was from the walkie.
00:48:47
Kevin Otte
But we're very mindful of that type of stuff when we're investigating.
00:48:49
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I know Brandon's going to cringe again, but we we use cat balls, but we don't use them in the way that normal people do. We actually have a vibration device that yeah you put it on a table, you bang it, and it lights up.
00:49:08
Lee Hatfield
So we put a cat ball on top of it so that if you bang the table, both of them should light up. But if only one lights up, either it be the top or the bottom one and the other one doesn't, then you've got something to to investigate rather than just yeah put a cat ball on the floor and kick it down the corridor and you just get the the pretty lights going down the corridor, which I've seen happen.
00:49:36
Lee Hatfield
So the stuff that we use, like say, we actually try to... use it in the correct in the correct way. A lot of my my stuff is stuff that is used in construction.
00:49:49
Lee Hatfield
Like I've got like a stud wall for checking for cables.
00:49:50
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:49:54
Lee Hatfield
you I use a tri-field. I've got a carbon monoxide detector. I've got a green mole. I've got a black mole detector. So we go through all all those kind of things.
00:50:06
Lee Hatfield
Obviously, yeah when you go into a public building, it's a little bit more sensitive if you, oh, by the way, your public building's got blackmail. yeah They don't like that kind of thing. But we try to rule out everything of a natural phenomena that we can before we actually go down the, well, is this paranormal?
00:50:28
Kevin Otte
Now, on our episode of Waverly, we actually caught a light anomaly on the EMCCD camera. And you watch in the hallway and it actually trips the, think it might have been a Paralight or the EDI Plus we had sitting there.
00:50:44
Kevin Otte
It hit EMF on that. And then the environmental data logger was sitting beside it. And it also threw that magnetic compass off like 10 degrees. So all three of those things happened at the same time.
00:50:57
Kevin Otte
And you actually watched the ball on screen. which is, i thought was pretty interesting.
00:51:00
Lee Hatfield
that yeah And that's a good thing to get multiple devices picking up at different things as well.
00:51:09
Kevin Otte
Mm-hmm.
00:51:09
Lee Hatfield
And and that' that's the objective of the exercise. yeah Oh, right, that went off. But it went off in isolation. But if you've got two or three devices, yeah and there's plenty of these bells and whistle devices out there that people think are the most wonderful thing on the planet, let's not get involved.
00:51:30
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, you like like I mentioned about the vibration device and the yeah and the cat ball, you're using multiple devices to get to the same objective. And if something does happen, like i say, it's something to to investigate further.
00:51:45
Kevin Otte
and We did have a guy, an engineer, Curtis Maloney, he built us an APL, which he calls the atmospheric phenomenon logger. And it measures temperature, humidity, pressure, EMF, vibration, and motion. And it it graphs it live on the screen as well.
00:52:04
Kevin Otte
And you can actually Bluetooth it to your monitor. And you can monitor it live time as well while you have it sitting like on a tripod in a hallway. You can sit back and monitor it from a nerve center and watch the watch the graphs. And it records it to to a card that you can download and analyze as well.
00:52:22
Lee Hatfield
That's pretty cool. My birthday's in June, so if you want to start saving to get me one, go right ahead. So we are unfortunately coming towards the
Future Projects and International Prospects
00:52:32
Lee Hatfield
end. It's almost been an hour. You won't think so.
00:52:36
Kevin Otte
Time flies.
00:52:36
Lee Hatfield
It does, doesn't it? So without telling me too much, because I know working in your business, you can't tell me everything, what's next for you guys?
00:52:48
Kevin Otte
Right now it's a lot of just catch up. You know, we still have season five to complete the edit on. We saw season six and seven. And so there's right now it's it's playing catch up.
00:53:01
Lee Hatfield
so
00:53:02
Kevin Otte
Because we filmed season four
00:53:06
Kevin Otte
No, we filmed season five early last year. And once we finished that, we had to finish editing Family Spirits. And once that edit was done, we started on five, but then went on the road to film season six and seven. And so it was a busy year last year. So now it's like, give us a minute. We got to catch our breath. We got a lot of catch up to do.
00:53:25
Lee Hatfield
So I think you should have a team meeting tomorrow to say that there's been an offer for an international location. And then come over the border.
00:53:35
Kevin Otte
Ready.
00:53:36
Lee Hatfield
no Yeah, let's do this.
00:53:36
Kevin Otte
I'm ready.
00:53:37
Lee Hatfield
Just, to just in fact, call him right now.
00:53:38
Kevin Otte
I've never been up there, so I'm ready for the trip.
00:53:41
Lee Hatfield
It's like, Brandon, yeah, Lee said. I'm sure he'd love it. Kevin, it's been an absolute pleasure. I've thoroughly enjoyed talking to you. You've given us a great insight into haunted discoveries.
00:53:55
Lee Hatfield
And like I've said, Brandon's not off the hook. Please feel free to tell him. But for now, I thank you for your time. It's been an absolute pleasure, like I've said.
00:54:04
Kevin Otte
ready.
00:54:05
Lee Hatfield
And don't be a stranger. And hopefully we'll talk again soon.
00:54:09
Kevin Otte
Absolutely. It's been fun. Appreciate you having me on. And, you know, anybody that's watching, keep documenting.
00:54:18
Lee Hatfield
that's the That's the key. Thanks, my friend. You take care.
00:54:21
Kevin Otte
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