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S2 E20 Curtis Riersgard - Purgatory Adventures Saskatchewan
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This week i am delighted to talk too Curtis Riersgard from Purgatory Adventures, Saskatchewan.
From hearing hissing and growls, Curtis had an interest in the paranormal since he was 12 years old. He also experienced his first attachment.
Purgatory Adventures was created when Curtis was 20, and from having rocks thrown at him to hearing ghostly voices
We then discussed various types of paranormal equipment including the SLS (Structured Light Sensor) Camera.
We finally discussed how difficult or easy it was to investigate buildings in Saskatchewan and Ontario, and there was also a quick mention of the local Saskatchewan cryptid the Rougarou.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction to SEPA Paranormal Chronicles with Curtis Ryersgaard
00:00:12
Lee Hatfield
Hello, everybody, and welcome to the latest episode of SEPA Paranormal Chronicles. Today, i have got a Canadian who's, if you drive, is probably about two days away, maybe, is in a place called Saskatchewan.
00:00:28
Lee Hatfield
His name's Curtis Ryersgaard. I know I said it wrong. And he's he's from Purgatory Adventures.
00:00:33
Curtis.Riersgard
No, that's right.
00:00:36
Lee Hatfield
Curtis, welcome, my friend, and thank you for joining
Curtis's First Paranormal Experience
00:00:39
Lee Hatfield
me.
00:00:39
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah, no problem. I'm excited to be here.
00:00:42
Lee Hatfield
good See, i I knew that I was going to get Ryersgaard wrong. because So where is Ryersgaard from? is it Is it Canadian or is it from? Do you know where it's from?
00:00:52
Curtis.Riersgard
I'm from Estevan, Saskatchewan.
00:00:55
Curtis.Riersgard
That's where I'm from.
00:00:55
Lee Hatfield
Okay.
00:00:56
Lee Hatfield
what about What about your last name? Is that is that Canadian last name? or
00:01:00
Curtis.Riersgard
I'm not exactly sure, to be honest with you, where it where it originates from. i have to i have to ask my family. I don't know.
00:01:09
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, it's like, I'll be right back.
00:01:11
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah, I'll be right back. Just call.
00:01:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Okay. So you are the lead with Purgatory Adventures.
00:01:17
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes, I am the the creator, the founder, if you will, of Purgatory Adventures. And, you know, we've been...
00:01:23
Lee Hatfield
Okay. So before we start talking about that,
Encounter with a Spirit Attachment
00:01:27
Curtis.Riersgard
okay
00:01:28
Lee Hatfield
just let me, just give me a little bit of like information about yourself and how did you first get into the paranormal?
00:01:34
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay. Well, I got started probably when I was 12 years old. My uncle took me on my very first paranormal investigation to a place in Manitoba called the Criddle Vein Homestead.
00:01:48
Curtis.Riersgard
And there was a lot of creepy things that were going on at this place. We had hissing noises and growls and stuff. I even got attacked for the first time.
00:01:58
Curtis.Riersgard
And this was my very first ever experience with the paranormal.
00:01:59
Lee Hatfield
Oh, wow.
00:02:03
Curtis.Riersgard
And, you know, that that first initial experience sort of opened my mind to to that there is something else out here. But the the thing that really got me hooked and the thing that almost made me quit before I even started was what happened a year after that investigation when I investigated a place that my friend told me he had some experiences at.
00:02:26
Curtis.Riersgard
And, you know, at the time he wasn't living there. He was actually living across the street and he invited me to come and investigate this house that was empty. it had no furniture. There was nothing in there. And the very first day we went into that house, the front door to the house started opening and closing.
00:02:45
Curtis.Riersgard
And we walked up to the door and it stopped dead in its tracks.
00:02:50
Curtis.Riersgard
And that was just our first initial time in there. You know, we we spent the night in there and we had things flying across the room. And when you see something fly and you there's nothing attached to it, it just like it just makes you want...
00:02:50
Lee Hatfield
I believe.
00:03:05
Curtis.Riersgard
like it just i can't even do I can't even put it into words. It was just it was a crazy experience. and And that's what opened my mind. That's what got me hooked on it.
The Role of Religion in Paranormal Investigations
00:03:13
Curtis.Riersgard
But I will tell you, it almost made me quit because it was a really, really scary experience. And you know I had my first attachment from that place. I had something follow me home and torment me in my house. And that's when it gets serious is when there's something going on in your house that you can't control. Yeah.
00:03:35
Lee Hatfield
I don't know where to go on from there. so
00:03:37
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:03:38
Lee Hatfield
but So when when you say that you got your attachment and you was on the verge of quitting, at what point did you realize that you'd got an attachment? And then how did you deal with it to the point where you then got rid of it?
00:03:56
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, I realized I had it when there was stuff going on in my house I couldn't explain.
00:03:58
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:04:02
Curtis.Riersgard
I remember one distinct moment where heard a man and a woman fighting in my bedroom. And you go into the room and you can hear them like talking, like yelling at each other, but there's nothing there.
00:04:16
Curtis.Riersgard
There's no stereo. There's no TV. There's no neighbor's home. There's nobody around, no people in the house. And there's like yelling. And it's so clear. And it was it it was terrifying.
00:04:27
Curtis.Riersgard
And you wake up in the middle of the night and it feels like you got eyes just staring at you. The room is freezing cold. And i know that there was something there. And that's when I pull out the Bible and I start reading from it.
00:04:40
Curtis.Riersgard
And I read it probably every night for probably three months straight. I'd wake up and start reading from it. And I would tell it to go away, leave me alone. And, you know, after so long, it finally disappeared of of just reading the Bible and just telling it to to go away. And yeah, it was, it was just a, it was a wild experience.
00:05:03
Lee Hatfield
And how old were you when this happened?
00:05:05
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, I was probably only 13, 13 or when this happened.
00:05:10
Lee Hatfield
Okay. Are you still that religious as you were then? Are you still that religious now as what as what you were then? or
00:05:19
Curtis.Riersgard
I feel like if if you're doing this type of work, if you're in the paranormal field, you have to be
Growth of Purgatory Adventures Team
00:05:25
Curtis.Riersgard
religious. You have to believe in in something to protect yourself from getting these attachments because there are evil energies that can attach themselves to you. And the only way to get rid of them is to have some sort of religion to defend yourself against that. Yeah.
00:05:42
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because it it's really weird because when I was in the UK, because i I only moved to Canada when I was in my mid 40s, was the biggest skeptic for the longest time.
00:05:54
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:05:56
Lee Hatfield
And even if something happens now, my first train of thought will be, how can I debunk this?
00:06:06
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:06:07
Lee Hatfield
And I think sometimes I've even gone to the point where something happened, but I'm going to debunk it anyway. And I think up of of of a rational explanation that even may even may not be able to connect to it, but I'll say, oh, that was a trick of the light or that was my mind playing games.
00:06:22
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:06:26
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:06:27
Lee Hatfield
But yeah, you are completely right about the fact that there's a lot of people that are religious. I don't class myself as being a religious person.
00:06:35
Curtis.Riersgard
and I don't classify myself as being a religious person, but when it comes to doing this and and having these things follow you home, you tend to pick up a religion to to defend yourself.
00:06:37
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:06:46
Lee Hatfield
yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah.
00:06:48
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:06:49
Lee Hatfield
So did you actually speak to any yeah religious people when this
Filming Challenges for Paranormal Evidence
00:06:56
Lee Hatfield
happened or did you just read the Bible?
00:06:57
Curtis.Riersgard
No, no, I was, I just read the Bible.
00:06:59
Lee Hatfield
Yes.
00:06:59
Curtis.Riersgard
I was, I was really young. Like I was only 13 at the time. And it's like, I didn't, like I didn't know who to go to. My parents are non-believers. And so it's like, i grew up, actually everyone in my house was a non-believer when this was happening, happening to me. The only people that I could talk to about it was my uncles that got me started in this. And,
00:07:18
Curtis.Riersgard
you know I'd tell my mother about but all this stuff that was going on and she would just be like, it's all in your head. It's it's just you. and I'd be like, no, this is real. This is happening. and she would just yeah she just she just does not believe in it at all
00:07:32
Lee Hatfield
So how long had your uncle been doing it before he start he took you out with him?
00:07:37
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, years, years before me, probably before 2009. So yeah, I don't, i don't even know really how long he's been doing it for quite some time going to Crittle Vane Homestead in Manitoba. That's where he always went. And he had some, some wild experiences there with possession and everything out there, front door opening by itself. And, He had the Bible and he threw it on the front doorstep and it started flipping pages.
00:08:07
Curtis.Riersgard
And it landed on a page that said, you all shall die. And there was other creepy stuff that went on at that house. So.
00:08:15
Lee Hatfield
I think I'm living in the wrong in the wrong province because we don't get that kind of stuff in in Ontario. that's it
00:08:20
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:08:21
Lee Hatfield
Obviously, though we have much more respectable spirits and ghosts in Ontario than what you guys do in Saskatchewan.
00:08:23
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:08:26
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, that's actually Manitoba. Manitoba's got some crazy haunts.
00:08:29
Lee Hatfield
Okay, okay.
00:08:30
Curtis.Riersgard
But the thing was about this house that where all this stuff was happening, there was rituals that went on inside of it. And there was actually a yeah pentagram that was drawn on the floor.
00:08:40
Curtis.Riersgard
And there was rituals and everything that that went on in that house. That's what invited the evil energy into the into the space. so
00:08:50
Lee Hatfield
OK, so after this happened and you knew that the paranormal was real, what was what what then kind of got you down the road that you're that you're going down now?
00:09:02
Curtis.Riersgard
that got me, that got Purgatory Adventures started, that started my channel.
00:09:06
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:09:07
Curtis.Riersgard
It was shortly after, shortly before, well, maybe after I graduated high school in 2020, we were sitting around the fire and my grandma, we just come back from a paranormal investigation at the cemetery. Me and my uncle were were doing, you know, just for fun. Right. And my grandma was like, you guys should film your investigations and and show people what happens to you guys on your investigations. And,
00:09:33
Curtis.Riersgard
I was like, no, I'm not going to do that. that's That's a horrible idea. i'm not I don't know how to film any of this or know how to do anything. And then I don't know. I just later on, I decided, okay, let's do this.
00:09:44
Curtis.Riersgard
So then I went out. We went to our local cemetery. We shot our first investigation. The video did horrible. It flopped, as you would imagine.
00:09:52
Lee Hatfield
a
00:09:54
Curtis.Riersgard
But on the second investigation that we did, we did a location called the Bekevard Church here in Saskatchewan. There's a lot of paranormal stuff tied to that church.
00:10:05
Curtis.Riersgard
And we did it, and then the video ended up kind of blowing up, a little blowing up in a sense for Saskatchewan terms, right? And then I'm like, okay, so this is possible. well We can do something with this. And then we went to all these big class locations here in Saskatchewan and our video started doing better and better. and Now they're doing really good. And it just, that's, that's kind of how we got started, but.
00:10:30
Lee Hatfield
So how how many people do you have in your team?
00:10:32
Curtis.Riersgard
There is five of us now.
Techniques and Equipment in Paranormal Investigations
00:10:35
Curtis.Riersgard
We just brought on a brand new member. So there's a five, and I think we're going to keep it with just five. i think that's a perfect number.
00:10:44
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And yeah, we've got eight in our team, but we started off with core of three of us and we're all kind of co-leads.
00:10:52
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, yeah.
00:10:53
Lee Hatfield
on, Sai.
00:10:54
Curtis.Riersgard
Well...
00:10:55
Lee Hatfield
but the go onai
00:10:56
Curtis.Riersgard
Sorry. no I was just going to say we started out with just two of us, just me and my uncle doing this, going to all these places. And we realized that as our channel is has grown and people are you know watching us more, we needed to bring more people on to help us film because there's there's such large videos to do. And like it takes me over a month to edit just one video. Yeah.
00:11:19
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, and and that's the thing, because yeah i remember going going on my first investigation, and yeah I did remember to take the lens cap off, but I did not remember to turn the microphone on.
00:11:34
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:11:35
Lee Hatfield
And it's like, oh, my God. yeah and i'm think We've all been there where we've we start recording.
00:11:37
Curtis.Riersgard
oh Yep.
00:11:41
Lee Hatfield
It's like like, it's a bit black. Oh, and you haven't taken the lens cap off. And it's like, yeah, everyone's a trial and error. But I know what you mean with regard to how long it can take to edit.
00:11:48
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:11:52
Lee Hatfield
Because we've got one guy who's like one of our co-leads. He's actually in the industry. So he does all the editing.
00:12:01
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay.
00:12:02
Lee Hatfield
he's He's been to university and he knows how to do that.
00:12:04
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, OK.
00:12:05
Lee Hatfield
And it it takes so long to to edit. So how how long is the average video for your investigations?
00:12:18
Curtis.Riersgard
usually about 30 to 40 minutes per video. That's, and that's usually i have probably almost 12 hours of footage and i condense it down into about a 30, 30 to 40 minute video, depending on how much stuff we captured during the investigation.
00:12:35
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:12:37
Lee Hatfield
So how do you, like, say, for example, we was at an investigation Saturday night. There was five of us. We have an NBR that's got six cameras.
00:12:49
Lee Hatfield
but we always have one person sat at the base station so that if he sees something happening in one of the six cameras, he writes it all down.
00:12:57
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay. Okay.
00:12:59
Lee Hatfield
and then and then that helps us with the editing because you can go, ok in this segment, there was something happened at 9.24 or something happened, that kind of thing.
00:13:05
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:13:09
Curtis.Riersgard
okay
00:13:11
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:13:11
Lee Hatfield
So do you do something similar or do you go through your 12 hours in real time and then pick up as you're going along?
00:13:18
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, I go through, well, we actually have about five cameras now. No, five. Yeah, about five cameras that we that run at the same time. And i have to go through...
00:13:31
Curtis.Riersgard
each individual one that has 12 hours of footage on on all of them, or on some of them. And it can take... That's why it takes me over a month to edit these videos because I got to go through all of that evidence. And I'm the only one that that can do the editing portion. There's there's nobody that knows...
00:13:50
Curtis.Riersgard
how to edit, how to edit around, like none none of my team members know how, right? How to edit for YouTube. And it it's taken, like when I started, I had zero experience on editing and just like over the course of six years now of doing my channel, I managed to figure it out and get better and just watch YouTube tutorials on how to use Premiere Pro and and stuff like that. yeah,
00:14:17
Lee Hatfield
hey And that that yeah that's the thing, because like say, yeah my buddy Logan, he will he will take forever, but he's also a perfectionist as well, where if he doesn't like it, he will like keep doing it until he gets it right.
00:14:27
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep, I am too.
00:14:31
Curtis.Riersgard
you
00:14:33
Lee Hatfield
But you're right with what you say. It's not something that you can literally click your fingers and somebody else can learn.
00:14:40
Curtis.Riersgard
who
00:14:41
Lee Hatfield
it It is so time consuming to actually teach somebody how to edit because it's not something you can do in like one night.
00:14:47
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah, exactly.
00:14:51
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah, you can't you got to be a good storyteller too, and you got to be able to present your story in in a in a way that's going to keep somebody entertained, and it's hard to learn how to do that. like I'm still not good at at storytelling, and that's that's what videos do, and that's what – even with your investigations that you do, they tell a story to somebody. When somebody watches it, it's supposed to tell a story, and you know you start out with – your introduction and then you move into your investment. It's all formatted right in in a certain way to keep that person entertained and also show them the paranormal. right
00:15:26
Curtis.Riersgard
and you can't You can't teach that. It's hard to teach that to somebody and how to do the editing. so
00:15:33
Lee Hatfield
That's it. And even if you've got somebody new looking at the some of the cameras, they're still not going to know what to look for.
00:15:40
Curtis.Riersgard
Exactly. That too. Yes.
00:15:42
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So let's go into some of your locations that you've been. And the first one that comes to come straight up is the Duck Lake Museum.
00:15:47
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay.
00:15:52
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay, yeah, that one that one went super crazy viral on my... on my YouTube channel. i I don't even know what happened with that one. I uploaded it. It sat about 300 views for six, seven months. And then I opened my YouTube one day and it's like, holy, it's 3000 now. And then now it's, I think it's over 8,000 views now.
00:16:13
Curtis.Riersgard
It's, which is one of our most popular videos. I don't, I don't even know how it happened, but yeah, that, that investigation was awesome. I liked that one. we didn't really catch a whole, like as much as I would want to on that one. Like I know we had some SLS camera, uh, activity, Yeah, that's all I can really remember. I'm having problems remembering that because I haven't watched that video in so long. like i don't I don't like watching my own, because especially the older ones, because they make me cringe at right?
00:16:13
Lee Hatfield
That's crazy.
00:16:47
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:51
Lee Hatfield
hey Hey, I'm doing a podcast.
00:16:52
Curtis.Riersgard
so sickness
00:16:53
Lee Hatfield
I can't, and this is my second season going back to some of the first few that I did.
00:16:54
Curtis.Riersgard
and
00:16:57
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:16:58
Lee Hatfield
And it's like, oh my God, you were such a rookie.
00:17:01
Curtis.Riersgard
yep but that that is part of the youtube journey is is putting out content and then you go back and look at your old stuff and if you don't cringe at it if you feel like this is amazing then you're not growing on youtube so you're not learning anything exactly yeah
00:17:15
Lee Hatfield
Exactly. You're not learning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay then. So I've got i've got your your channel in front of me. And obviously there's a lot.
00:17:27
Lee Hatfield
Do you have any favorite locations that you've been to?
00:17:30
Curtis.Riersgard
cool Where do i begin?
00:17:33
Lee Hatfield
That's always a really bad question to ask a paranormal investigator.
00:17:36
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah there's so many I could talk about.
Compelling Investigation Stories
00:17:40
Curtis.Riersgard
i know one thing your viewers will will want to know is what is the most haunted location we have ever been to?
00:17:45
Curtis.Riersgard
That is a question I get all the time. So I'll just start with our most haunted then. And that would be our Weyburn Barn.
00:17:51
Lee Hatfield
Yep.
00:17:55
Curtis.Riersgard
The Weyburn. Yeah, the Weyburn barn, basically. So what it was, for those of you that don't know, it was once a part. So in Weyburn, there was a massive mental hospital there.
00:18:07
Curtis.Riersgard
And the barn is the last one of the last remaining remnants of that hospital. And if you think that a barn isn't haunted, you are wrong.
00:18:18
Curtis.Riersgard
It was probably one of the worst scariest locations we've ever been to for our YouTube channel. about a week before we were about to investigate we show up at the location and a week before we were there somebody tried committing suicide from one of the rafters in the building somebody found the woman in there with the rope ready to jump from the rafters and And, you know, that was sort of our introductory to that location. And, you know, we went there.
00:18:48
Curtis.Riersgard
i Like, the the investigation portion was was insane. We had rocks getting thrown at us. I think one of the craziest things, though, of the night is we left our cameras run inside the building. We went outside and we're taking a break.
00:19:03
Curtis.Riersgard
And we caught scream come through the camera. And it said murder. Like, really loud, really creepy. And Later on, like like a week after i put out the video or whatever, we put two and two together. that we We had a psychic medium come through at the beginning of that investigation. And she can sense, you know, she can pick up on on the energies and stuff there. And she picked up on somebody that got murdered in that building, someone that got shot and and killed in there.
00:19:34
Curtis.Riersgard
And then, you know, later on the investigation, we catch the word murder come through loud, clear, like a scream. so yeah, that was one of the things there was, there was so much going on in there.
00:19:47
Curtis.Riersgard
my one investigator, he was brand new at the time. We brought him in and, was ready to go home. He was like, I'm done. This place is, is, is, is too bad. And then, after the investigation, we had weird, strange things happen to all of us.
00:20:04
Curtis.Riersgard
First off, my relationship with almost everybody that was involved with that investigation, our relationships kind of crumbled and fell apart a little bit. Some people I don't even talk to anymore from that one.
00:20:16
Curtis.Riersgard
My uncle, our relationship crumbled. He actually ended up quitting the team after that investigation. The new investigator has had car problems, women problems, everything.
00:20:29
Curtis.Riersgard
was just all this weird stuff started happening after this particular investigation. And it was just it was just a lot. That one was one of our worst ones we've ever we've ever been to. And of course, like if people want to see all the activity that we captured, because there was much more than what I'm telling you that happened there, they can go check out the video.
00:20:51
Lee Hatfield
So apart from the fact that somebody got murdered there, is there any other history with that building that would have what you know of?
00:20:55
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:21:00
Curtis.Riersgard
No, no, there's there's not much that I could find on it, just from what our psychic medium told us and stuff. i and And just from it being part of the mental hospital and and and stuff like that.
00:21:11
Curtis.Riersgard
And there's nothing much I could find. And even the murder is not, it's not guaranteed. It's not documented. It's just what she picked up, so.
00:21:21
Lee Hatfield
Right.
00:21:23
Lee Hatfield
OK, so you've mentioned that one.
00:21:25
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:21:26
Lee Hatfield
You say that there's so many more to mention. you've got You've obviously got more than one favourite.
00:21:32
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes.
00:21:33
Lee Hatfield
So give me another one.
00:21:35
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay. Another one. let me let me Let me just think about that for a minute.
00:21:42
Lee Hatfield
OK, OK.
00:21:42
Curtis.Riersgard
There's like there's like four I could tell you that are my favorite. I'm probably going to have to say the Moosehead Inn. That one will have to be a favorite because i wanted I've always wanted to investigate that building.
00:21:49
Lee Hatfield
Okay.
00:21:54
Curtis.Riersgard
even When I was a little kid and I went in there and I found out it was haunted, I wanted to investigate it when I first started out. and I'm like, there's no way I'll ever get into this building. and then Sure enough,
00:22:06
Curtis.Riersgard
years ago now, we investigated it. And the crazy thing is, is a week after i published my video on that building, it burned to the ground and there was nothing left of the building.
00:22:20
Curtis.Riersgard
And i am so happy every day that I got to investigate it before it was gone. And I fulfilled my childhood dream because I don't know what would have happened if I never got to, I would have, I would have been so sad.
00:22:34
Lee Hatfield
So and that's actually quite funny because I i was about to say, is it still operational as as an in? But you've told me that it burned down. So I'm guessing not.
00:22:42
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah. it's it's actually, sorry, go ahead.
00:22:43
Lee Hatfield
So what kind of activity? Yeah. So what kind of activity did you get there?
00:22:52
Curtis.Riersgard
uh, we, Oh, we captured, we had the owner come by and he was sitting in the room. There was three of us there and we were, we had our spirit box on the table and it was running and,
00:23:07
Curtis.Riersgard
earlier Earlier in the investigation, we captured a light turned on by itself, and we had spirit box going. We asked who turned on the light from earlier, and we had a voice come through and said Archibald.
00:23:23
Curtis.Riersgard
Now, Archibald Granison was the the person that owned and operated that place for a long time, and And we had the current owner there with us, Dale. And he's like, whoa, that just said Archibald.
00:23:35
Curtis.Riersgard
And we're like, wait, that did say Archibald. And it was the clearest voice I've ever captured come through that box. And that's still one of my favorite pieces of of evidence that we captured was that was that voice. And it's such a unique name, Archibald, to come through and say it. And there was no denying that's what it was.
00:23:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. as a team, are you a team that uses a lot of the, let's let's go there, the toys and gadgets, or are you quite strict in what you use when you do an investigation?
00:24:11
Curtis.Riersgard
we're not strict we use whatever we can afford equipment is is very expensive paranormal equipment can be extremely expensive and you know we're non-profit we make no money from this we do this all out of our own pockets so we just use whatever we can afford and My favorite piece of equipment is the is the spirit box. We also have like K2 meters and and different EMF meters, EVP recorder. I think one of the most unique pieces of equipment that we have is a I call it the stick, but basically what it is, is it's it's a live EVP recorder. so basically what it is, is we taped a recorder,
00:24:52
Curtis.Riersgard
to the end of of a long stick. and we put on headphones and we can actually listen to the digital recorder live. And I've captured some creepy stuff come through that.
00:25:03
Curtis.Riersgard
i had I was walking in a building. This is not for the channel or anything, but this was just like a private one that we were doing off camera.
00:25:08
Lee Hatfield
Thank
00:25:11
Curtis.Riersgard
and I was walking in a building and i heard someone say, hey, through it. I went, hey. And I was like, whoa, someone just said, hey. through this thing and we've reviewed the recorder and sure enough.
00:25:25
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because it's like, because we have, like, we're the scientific investigation of paranormal activity, and we have scientific in the name, one thing that we kind of insist on is like baseline observations. So, yeah, I'm not a fan of the K2, but I do have a Trifield.
00:25:46
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay.
00:25:47
Lee Hatfield
so simply because it's much more of an accurate device plus it's actually used in construction.
00:25:52
Curtis.Riersgard
well
00:25:55
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay.
00:25:56
Lee Hatfield
like radio masks and stuff like that. So i do i do i do love that.
00:25:58
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:26:00
Lee Hatfield
And, yeah, we even have, like, black mould detectors. We have radiation detectors. Yeah, we even have, like, the detectors for stu yeah for checking stud walls and built in in in walls.
00:26:07
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, wow.
00:26:12
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:14
Lee Hatfield
So we always try to rule out the natural
00:26:20
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:26:21
Lee Hatfield
Before we look at the supernatural.
00:26:22
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay.
00:26:23
Lee Hatfield
and yeah And I'm a firm believer in, yeah let's not go to a a location and you see and you sense that there's a lot of activity just to find out that it's got really old wiring and and yet EMF readers going off the charts.
00:26:37
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:26:41
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:26:42
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, yeah.
00:26:42
Lee Hatfield
So I'm always like a firm believer in, okay, let's roll out all the obvious first.
00:26:45
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:26:49
Lee Hatfield
And then that' that's that saves a lot of work in the long run.
00:26:52
Curtis.Riersgard
Sorry, just going back to your your EMF meter going off. We always try to look for specific responses. Like, for instance, we used our K2 meter at a place called the Heritage Village and in Weyburn.
00:27:07
Curtis.Riersgard
And... there was a gentleman that passed away in the living room and we asked, are you here with us? And we had the lights. I mean, we said, if you're here with us, can you set the lights off?
00:27:20
Curtis.Riersgard
And the lights went up and then stopped. Right. And we we look for reactions to our questions that come through. Can you set the, make it blink twice?
00:27:31
Curtis.Riersgard
And then we see it go twice. And then, you know, if we ask a question and there's no response at all, like there's no lights at all, then, you know, how do you explain that? Right.
00:27:31
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:27:41
Curtis.Riersgard
You're not moving.
00:27:41
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:27:41
Lee Hatfield
and
00:27:42
Curtis.Riersgard
You're staying in the same spot.
00:27:44
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And yeah you're absolutely right. Yeah. We we do have K2s, and we do use them for that kind of like experiment.
00:27:53
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:27:54
Lee Hatfield
But for for doing my baseline observations, because you because you've got like a needle and it saves and it records the numbers, yeah, I do prefer to that because we went to a location a couple of years ago and the owner was going, oh, if you if you sit at this table, like people have a lot of activity with their devices.
00:27:57
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh yeah.
00:28:00
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:28:05
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:28:15
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:28:18
Lee Hatfield
So I've got the tri-field on the table. And it's it's quite quite active. And I'm thinking, in hang on a minute, something wrong here.
00:28:24
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:28:27
Lee Hatfield
So we was on the third floor of an old house. So I said, what's below?
00:28:31
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:28:34
Lee Hatfield
And she went, oh, it's it's an identical apartment to the one that you're in. OK. So as soon as she left, I put the trifield on the floor. And it went even more crazy.
00:28:45
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, yeah. See, that's how you rule out the difference between paranormal and and electrical.
00:28:46
Lee Hatfield
so
00:28:50
Lee Hatfield
Exactly. Yeah. And then she was saying that there was some activity in the in the lounge.
00:28:50
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:28:56
Lee Hatfield
So again, I went around with the Trifield and but she said, oh, this one sofa, that you get a lot of activity with your equipment.
00:28:58
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:29:04
Lee Hatfield
Put the Trifield on the wall. And again, it was going crazy. So I walked around into the kitchen, big power box.
00:29:10
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:29:11
Lee Hatfield
on the wall So, yeah, it's stuff like that that we we can rule out. And if we if we draw a map of a location, we can basically put a cross in that area. Don't trust anything there.
00:29:20
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:29:22
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:29:22
Lee Hatfield
don't trust it yet but So, yeah,
00:29:25
Lee Hatfield
it makes it easier for us to investigate if we know what areas playing up.
00:29:28
Curtis.Riersgard
oh
00:29:31
Lee Hatfield
And we actually had a an electric fan. this location didn't have any air conditioning. And just by unplugging and plugging in the electric fan, it was quite a big one.
00:29:44
Lee Hatfield
It was setting the REM pod off.
00:29:46
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, wow.
00:29:47
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because we did it the first time. and I thought, hang on a minute, the REM pod went off.
00:29:51
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:29:51
Lee Hatfield
Plug it back in again. So we did.
00:29:52
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:29:53
Lee Hatfield
REM pod went off. And we did that like six or seven
Challenges in Paranormal Investigations
00:29:55
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:29:55
Lee Hatfield
times.
00:29:56
Lee Hatfield
And every time we did it, and it's like because of that surge of power, it was it was causing the REM pod to go off.
00:29:59
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:30:01
Curtis.Riersgard
Another thing with the Rampod, actually, is walkie-talkies set them off, too.
00:30:06
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, absolutely.
00:30:06
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah. yeah When I started doing the YouTube channel, I didn't know that. And we were using walkie-talkies. And we're like, oh, the REM pod's going off and stuff like that. That's so cool. And then we soon figured out that it was our walkies that that was that was setting it off. so
00:30:23
Lee Hatfield
That's it. And you've you've got to be able to admit that modern technology can set these devices off.
00:30:32
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:30:33
Lee Hatfield
Because yes, yes in my but yeah you can't see it, but I've got like cases and cases here. Yes, I have walkie-talkies, but we don't use them in an investigation because we know that it can set off pieces of equipment.
00:30:48
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:30:50
Lee Hatfield
Before we start, all our cell phones will go to airplane mode for exactly the same reason.
00:30:51
Curtis.Riersgard
in Yep. Yep.
00:30:56
Lee Hatfield
But you get quite a few of these TV shows that where you see them talking on the walkie-talkies all the time and just like that's it yeah it's like please please stop no no just just just don't do that so what kind of other equipment do you have because like say we have a lot of
00:31:03
Curtis.Riersgard
And the REM pod's going off and you're just shaking your head. Yeah.
00:31:12
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:31:21
Lee Hatfield
stuff that you can use in construction because you have to wall out the natural.
00:31:23
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:31:24
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:31:24
Lee Hatfield
But then we do have our own gadgets.
00:31:26
Lee Hatfield
We've got like Rempods and K2s and the bears and and stuff like that.
00:31:30
Curtis.Riersgard
Well...
00:31:31
Lee Hatfield
so
00:31:32
Curtis.Riersgard
I'm going to be honest, we don't have a lot of of paranormal equipment at at the moment. We're trying to get more. We actually have a guy on on our team that that builds our equipment and stuff like that, builds them from scratch.
00:31:44
Curtis.Riersgard
And he's he's currently working on some REM pods and and some other stuff for us. So he builds a lot of them for us. mainly because it's cheaper to have him build it, to get the parts and put it together yourself.
00:31:56
Curtis.Riersgard
It's a lot cheaper than going out and buying it for that's already built. like it's just The price difference is crazy, but you know sometimes there's there's glitches with his equipment, right?
00:32:06
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:32:09
Curtis.Riersgard
so
00:32:10
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because I actually teach an equipment course. There's a company that live in are based the East Coast.
00:32:21
Lee Hatfield
the east on the east coast And they do quite few different paranormal courses like ghosts and spirits, poltergeist, demonology.
00:32:27
Curtis.Riersgard
who
00:32:30
Lee Hatfield
And they asked me to do an equipment equipment course. So I actually tell people, yeah, yeah, yeah. This works. However, you have to be careful of A, B, C and D.
00:32:42
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:32:42
Lee Hatfield
And i I kind of go through cameras and audios on the first week. The second week I go through construction slash scientific equipment.
00:32:53
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:32:54
Lee Hatfield
The third week I go through all the gadgets with the bells and whistles, Urem Pod, Jukade, all those kinds stuff.
00:32:59
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:33:00
Lee Hatfield
And then the fourth week I go i go into the the old school of Ouija boards, pendulums, dowsing rods and stuff like that.
00:33:05
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:33:08
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:33:09
Lee Hatfield
and And I'm really honest with people. It's like, yeah, this is good for being a door wedge, but it's not very good. for But you mentioned about the equipment and it being expensive.
00:33:18
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:33:21
Lee Hatfield
If you see stuff that has the word ghost or spirit in the title, you can guarantee that it's going to be more expensive than something that does not.
00:33:25
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:33:27
Curtis.Riersgard
if there were The Ovilus, though, that's the one I want. That one doesn't have that in it. And it's like almost $1,000 one. So... Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. so
00:33:38
Lee Hatfield
yeah Yeah, we've got an Ovilus 5. I've wanted an Ovilus 3 forever and ever, but when t they then they're about as extinct as unicorns.
00:33:45
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:33:51
Lee Hatfield
yeah yeah and like and I don't think you can even buy them anymore, and people don't want to get rid of them, but they were such an adaptable device that could be used for many different like scenarios.
00:33:56
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:34:03
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes.
00:34:04
Lee Hatfield
It was great.
00:34:05
Curtis.Riersgard
I love them. I've always wanted one. I keep looking on, there's a website where you can get paranormal equipment from called ghost stop. Now we'll look on there and I'm just like drooling over all the equipment I want to buy.
00:34:14
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:34:17
Curtis.Riersgard
like Some of it's like almost a thousand dollars or almost there to a thousand. And it's just like, I can't, I can't do that.
00:34:24
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, i i'm i'm quite quite lucky to have a generous wife and she'll go, you haven't got one of these here.
00:34:25
Curtis.Riersgard
So,
00:34:32
Curtis.Riersgard
great Wow.
00:34:35
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And she's ignoring me now. But yeah. and She's waving. But but yeah, but my next I do fancy either an XLS or an SLS.
00:34:48
Lee Hatfield
But yeah obviously, we can't really get them in Canada. We can get them in the US. But I want to see one.
00:34:54
Lee Hatfield
I want to have one. And then we'll I want to put it to the test to see what its what its limitations are and yeah
00:35:00
Curtis.Riersgard
i I actually have one. Would your viewers be interested in seeing it?
00:35:07
Lee Hatfield
Sure.
00:35:07
Curtis.Riersgard
If you give me a minute, I can show it. And I actually have it. It's sitting in my in my room there.
00:35:13
Lee Hatfield
Okay, let me put this on pause and I'll... Okay, and we're back
00:35:14
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay. sure maybe Turn on a light.
00:35:21
Curtis.Riersgard
So this is mine.
00:35:23
Curtis.Riersgard
It's homemade.
00:35:23
Lee Hatfield
back.
00:35:25
Lee Hatfield
So can you describe exactly what you've got attached to it and how it works for for the people?
00:35:29
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes. Yeah, sure. So this is just, this part here is an Xbox 360 Kinect camera and it connects into a Windows tablet. has to be a Windows tablet and you just plug everything in and it projects out. So this, this part here projects out a laser grid and anything that walks into it will project it as a humanoid figure.
00:35:55
Curtis.Riersgard
we've used this on a few investigations and we've had some great luck with it. Actually, we had at the one place, uh, we had something touch my hand and we seen it on the camera and we watched it reach out and touch my hand. And at the same time on the camera that it touched my hand, I felt it.
00:36:16
Curtis.Riersgard
And, uh, we had a spirit wave to us. We asked it if, if, can you wave? And on the camera, it It started waving to us, so.
00:36:27
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And one thing that I do find funny, I just for shits and giggles and no other reason, I have a an app on my phone.
00:36:38
Lee Hatfield
that is supposed to be like an SLS.
00:36:41
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, yes.
00:36:41
Lee Hatfield
And we live in an apartment block. And I took the recycling down. And on the door it's in the underground garage. And it has a little disk on the door that says, open slowly, moving vehicles, because you're going in back out into the garage.
00:36:53
Curtis.Riersgard
in Yeah.
00:36:57
Lee Hatfield
And there was an electrical fault with the door. And the door was trying to open against the mechanism. So just thought, just for a giggle, I kind of got the app. and opened it, and sure enough, I could see a stick figure.
00:37:12
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:37:12
Lee Hatfield
And I started laughing to myself because the app on the phone, which I'm not a fan of apps, but I just have it just for, yeah, it actually it picked the disk of the sticker up
00:37:17
Curtis.Riersgard
I'm not a fan either. Yeah.
00:37:25
Lee Hatfield
treated it as a head, and then created the stick figure to yeah to but as the rest of the body. So i thought, oh, great. I've actually got a stick figure in the in the yeah the recycling room of our of our apartment block.
00:37:39
Lee Hatfield
But it wasn't. It was just picking up this disk, this sticker.
00:37:41
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah. That's why, yeah So the problem with those is it it picks up humanoid figures. So anything that's in the shape of a person, it'll put out.
00:37:50
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:37:50
Curtis.Riersgard
But what you're looking for is if you ask it to do something for you and it like starts waving like it did for us, or if you put out your hand and ask it to touch your hand and it actually reaches out and touches your hand, that's how, that's what you're looking for with it.
00:38:05
Curtis.Riersgard
You're not looking for just random figures, whatever, because it'll do that.
00:38:08
Lee Hatfield
No, tough that's right.
00:38:08
Curtis.Riersgard
It'll just put out a random figure.
00:38:11
Lee Hatfield
And if you've got like like a coat rack or yeah a mop and bucket, it's going to try to put it into a a humanoid figure.
00:38:16
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:38:21
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:38:22
Lee Hatfield
But you've got to have that that amount of common sense to go, hang on, I've got a coat rack in front of me.
00:38:28
Curtis.Riersgard
you Yep.
00:38:28
Lee Hatfield
It's trying is trying to pick it up. So you mentioned about by being touched.
00:38:31
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:38:35
Lee Hatfield
And just before Christmas, I felt like I had my my hand held at a location.
00:38:40
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:38:42
Lee Hatfield
But what I always tell people and what yeah some people go, oh, well, it doesn't happen. If you have something like that happen to you, It's all a personal experience.
00:38:55
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:38:56
Lee Hatfield
I can't call you a liar because it didn't happen to me.
00:38:58
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:39:00
Lee Hatfield
It happened to you. And that's what I have to explain to us.
00:39:01
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:39:04
Lee Hatfield
So many people, it's like, yeah, it happened to me just because it didn't happen to you. doesn't mean that I'm lying. It just means that you didn't experience the same thing that I did.
00:39:13
Curtis.Riersgard
yeah
00:39:14
Lee Hatfield
So when you said that you got, you got touched, what, what kind of happened on on that occasion?
00:39:20
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, we were we were using our our SLS camera and we were walking around with it. at We were at a location called the Alameda District Museum and we were walking around with it and we seen a figure pop up on the camera and We asked it, can you wave to us? It waved, right? And then I stuck out my hand and I'm like, can you reach for my hand? Can you grab my hand?
00:39:45
Curtis.Riersgard
And just as I did that, we seen the hand come out or the the stick figure come out and and actually it touched my hand. And when it did that, I felt it. I felt like a little, it was a little touch like that.
00:39:59
Curtis.Riersgard
And it was just, it was the coolest thing I've ever captured. And it it proved to me that this device, It is accurate. It's actually it's a valid tool.
00:40:10
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes.
00:40:12
Lee Hatfield
So you say that you you built that from scratch.
00:40:15
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes.
00:40:17
Lee Hatfield
And these things are not cheap at the best of times.
00:40:19
Curtis.Riersgard
yes
00:40:20
Lee Hatfield
So did you already have any of the pieces of equipment to to build? Or did you actually just buy everything separately?
00:40:28
Curtis.Riersgard
I had to buy everything separately. There was a little bit of wiring. I actually watched a YouTube video on how to do it, on how to build one. And this device probably costed me about $100 to do.
00:40:40
Curtis.Riersgard
can yeah The most expensive part, I already had the Kinect camera, so that wasn't a problem. But if you don't have the Kinect camera, then it might be a little more. But just for like all the the the components and stuff, it was really it was really cheap. It was cheaper than buying an actual one.
00:40:40
Lee Hatfield
Oh, wow.
00:40:58
Lee Hatfield
what What about for the the actual program itself for the for the tablet
00:41:03
Curtis.Riersgard
you have to, it has to be a windows 10 tablet it has to be a windows tablet. That is a must. it's a There's a few programs you have to download. I can't remember exactly what the programs are, but it's a Kinect program. And then there's another program that talks to the Kinect camera that tells it to put it on the tablet. And then basically how I record it is I have a...
00:41:31
Curtis.Riersgard
a handlebar mount for a GoPro and it just shoots the screen. But the the program, I can't remember exactly what the program is. I know it's a Kinect software, but there's multiple different softwares you have to get to get it to run on the tablet.
00:41:46
Curtis.Riersgard
And the video that that I watch will tell you how to do that. It'll tell you, it'll step-by-step on how to build this and how to install the programs and everything. so
00:41:58
Lee Hatfield
Oh, that's pretty cool. I'm going to have to look into that. If that's a cheaper option, then i think it's definitely a route to go down because I think the six six to 800 US the last time I looked, a little bit extortionate to say the least.
00:42:04
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes.
00:42:07
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh.
00:42:11
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, just a little bit of electrical work, and that's all you got to do to wire the – because you got to wire the power pack to the Kinect camera, so you got to do some wire stripping and stuff like that, so
00:42:24
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, but this this person, I used to fix bodies. like I don't do DIY. don't do do y i don't do a gardening. I don't do electrical.
00:42:34
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, this is a cheaper option, and I actually recommend, because I've always wanted an SLS camera, but I couldn't afford the $800, but this was a cheap alternative.
00:42:43
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:42:45
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, and the tablet will be expensive, too. You've got to find a Windows 10 tablet. That could run you up some money, so...
00:42:52
Lee Hatfield
Well, I do have a an iPad already, but...
00:42:55
Curtis.Riersgard
iPad will not work. It has to be Windows 10.
00:43:00
Curtis.Riersgard
It has to have Windows on it. iPad will not work. Chromebook will not work. It has to be a specific one, right? Because this is a Microsoft device, right?
00:43:00
Lee Hatfield
interesting.
00:43:11
Curtis.Riersgard
and this the but This is Microsoft, so it can only talk to a Microsoft operating system like Windows. Okay.
00:43:12
Lee Hatfield
right, okay.
00:43:20
Lee Hatfield
Okay, you've just upset me, so you can go now.
00:43:25
Lee Hatfield
So one thing that I find, especially in Ontario, it's really difficult to to get into some locations because they're city-owned yeah and and such like.
00:43:29
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:43:39
Lee Hatfield
So how easy or difficult is it to get to these locations in Saskatchewan?
00:43:46
Curtis.Riersgard
depending on where it is, if it's a provincially owned location, it's, it's almost next to impossible to get into. if it's, we we find that larger cities are way more difficult to get into because it's just hard finding the right person.
00:44:00
Curtis.Riersgard
If it's in a smaller town,
00:44:01
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:44:03
Curtis.Riersgard
it's it's easy. It's so easy to get into. You call up the town office and you ask, hey, who owns this property? And sometimes they will give you an email or a name or something. And then you just kind of go from there.
00:44:16
Curtis.Riersgard
Or they'll tell you, sorry, I can't give you any information. And then that's it, right? You just move on and you try to figure out who owns it and stuff like that. It can be it's a little bit of like detective work you got to do to try and get into some of these places.
00:44:29
Curtis.Riersgard
But
00:44:30
Lee Hatfield
Oh yeah. And, and that's, it yeah, it's kind of part of the fun,
Future Plans and Local Legends
00:44:35
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah. It can be, yeah Especially when people don't understand what you're doing. Like, there's a lot of people here in Saskatchewan that that don't quite understand what it is we want to do and stuff. And they're a little bit hesitant to let us in. and that's kind of the problem that we've run into.
00:44:35
Lee Hatfield
but it's also the frustrating part of it as well.
00:44:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, we're we're actually quite lucky because, like I said earlier, I'm on the Comic-Con network. We actually have a booth at one of our Comic Cons.
00:45:06
Lee Hatfield
So that gives us like a ay profile. Yeah, people see is out there. So if we do approach them, we oh, yeah, use up the Comic Con kind of thing. So that kind of helps us a little bit.
00:45:19
Lee Hatfield
But yeah, it's because you've got a lot of city buildings here, especially being in the in the National Capital Region.
00:45:19
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:45:22
Curtis.Riersgard
f
00:45:26
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, so it's like to say, it's nigh on impossible to to get into some of them.
00:45:31
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah. There's been a few locations where we had to pay money to get in. There was some that we had to turn down because they wanted, the one location wanted $5,000 to spend a night there and the staff was not allowed to participate at all.
00:45:43
Lee Hatfield
Holy shit.
00:45:47
Curtis.Riersgard
And I had to turn that down because I can't, I can't do $5,000 for one night.
00:45:54
Curtis.Riersgard
So that is, yes, that is a ridiculous amount of money.
00:45:54
Lee Hatfield
That is ridiculous amount of money.
00:45:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:45:58
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:45:59
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. I think, I think the most we've spent is probably 150 each. Yeah. Depending on how many of us go, but even then it's still, it still gets expensive.
00:46:06
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, yeah.
00:46:11
Curtis.Riersgard
It does. The most expensive one was... well there's been a few. I think the one was $300. Or no, it was like $600, I think, for a night.
00:46:21
Curtis.Riersgard
But me and another investigator, we split the cost. So it was about $300 and some a piece or whatever. Yeah.
00:46:27
Lee Hatfield
So how far away you from the US border?
00:46:31
Curtis.Riersgard
I'm about maybe 15 minutes, 15, 20 minutes from the U.S.
00:46:35
Lee Hatfield
Okay.
00:46:35
Curtis.Riersgard
border.
00:46:36
Lee Hatfield
Have you ever managed to do any investigations over the border?
00:46:39
Curtis.Riersgard
No, no, no, I have not been able to.
00:46:42
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. We went to a location in New York State last summer. And it was a really oldie-worldie building, which was a really beautiful building.
00:46:55
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:46:55
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:46:55
Lee Hatfield
It's it's a restaurant hotel.
00:46:58
Lee Hatfield
And we rented the the two most haunted bedrooms. There was three of us that went. And they had four poster beds. And on the second night, we was there.
00:47:11
Lee Hatfield
It's got blankets on rather than duvets. And i just got into bed, like, 2 o'clock in the morning. I moved, I felt the blankets settle, and and then I felt a really heavy sensation of somebody sitting on the bed.
00:47:19
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, yeah.
00:47:26
Lee Hatfield
Thinking it was one of the other guys, I opened my eyes and as as I saw this white apparition go past.
00:47:34
Curtis.Riersgard
Oh, wow.
00:47:34
Lee Hatfield
And of course, i had no cameras on at that time because we'd just called it and cold it a night.
00:47:36
Curtis.Riersgard
Of course. Yep, that's usually how it goes. It's like they know when you're going to record.
00:47:41
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. That's it. And it's, yeah, that that kind of taught us to as soon as we arrive at a location, at least one person needs to have a camera going from the get from the get-go.
00:47:53
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep. I actually tell them when we get to a location, I always tell my investigators, do not interact with the spirits at all yet because we don't have a camera running. Right. So no asking it to do something. No, you know, pulling out yeah EMF meters or equipment. We just keep it away because we don't want anything to happen yet. Right.
00:48:11
Curtis.Riersgard
And then once we get time to start our investigation, we always have a couple cameras that will run literally from the time we start our investigation until the time we leave the next day. So there's probably about like 10 hours of footage on each of those cameras. so
00:48:25
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because we all have personal cameras, and it's like, say, five of us. Plus, we then we have six NVR cameras, plus we have another three to four standalone cameras.
00:48:39
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm.
00:48:40
Lee Hatfield
And that's a lot of footage to go through. And but and people that don't know, yeah because you've got the ghost hunters and you've got the paranormal investigators, the ghost hunters don't really care about all this unless they see it.
00:48:41
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes.
00:48:51
Lee Hatfield
right in front of them, whereas the paranormal investigators will sit through all this footage in real time.
00:48:52
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:48:58
Lee Hatfield
And it like you said earlier, it takes months to actually go through it all.
00:49:01
Curtis.Riersgard
Take one sip.
00:49:04
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep. and And it's also, it also takes me a little longer to do it because I have a full-time job. So, and a girlfriend that I have to, you know, see and stuff. And it can be difficult to go through all that and with all the life stuff on top of that.
00:49:20
Curtis.Riersgard
so
00:49:20
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, i I always tell people that my my full-time job gets in the way of my paranormal investigating and my podcasting.
00:49:28
Curtis.Riersgard
Mm-hmm. it It does, yeah. For me too.
00:49:31
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So what's next on the agenda for Purgatory adventure Adventures?
00:49:38
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, at the actually, we just finished up an investigation at the Hopkins Dining Parlor. it's our It was our return. We haven't been there in probably three years. And that's what I'm currently working on right now.
00:49:50
Curtis.Riersgard
In the case of our next location, i have i don't know where we're going quite yet. We've got a lot in the works that are just waiting to get confirmed or we're waiting for summer to come around so we can get into the location because we can't get in there. because of the cold, right? so we're kind of just waiting. i can't yeah I can't say where yet because it's still it's unconfirmed yet. but We got lots in the works, and Hopkins Dining Parlor will be the next video on the channel.
00:50:20
Lee Hatfield
Cool. So unfortunately, we are coming towards the end. So now's your five minutes of fame. Tell us about all your social media platforms and where people can find you.
00:50:31
Curtis.Riersgard
Well, we have a Facebook group, Purgatory Adventures. We got 1.1K people on there. We got our YouTube channel, of course. We're almost 2,000 YouTube. Our goal is to get to I'm excited to hate I never thought I would get that far with it. But yeah. And I think that's all my social media that I want to promote. No, no.
00:51:02
Lee Hatfield
Awesome. So Curtis, it's been an absolute pleasure. See, it wasn't terrorizing for you.
00:51:07
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah.
00:51:08
Lee Hatfield
It it wasn't an interrogation.
00:51:10
Curtis.Riersgard
no no
00:51:12
Lee Hatfield
But I'm glad that my wife found your Facebook page because she was the one that suggested I reach out to you. One question before we go, though.
00:51:20
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:51:22
Lee Hatfield
In the US, you get a lot of Bigfoot, Mothman, Dogman, That kind of stuff.
00:51:32
Lee Hatfield
Is there any kind of decent cryptid stories from Saskatchewan that you can tell us before you go?
00:51:38
Curtis.Riersgard
yes Yes, there is actually. in In Roch Percy, not too far from where I live, there's something called rugaroo. And it's a mythical creature that's supposed to be down there. of Basically, when the settlers came over to Canada, and coyotes come out of the mines and they mated with the settlers and created these like inbred...
00:52:06
Curtis.Riersgard
creatures apparently that are supposed to roam. I don't know how accurate the story is, but they say if you hear like chains rattling, it's supposed to be the ruggeroos coming. But yeah, it's, there's a whole thing on it, but that, that's our cryptid, I guess here, or whatever you want to call it here in Saskatchewan.
00:52:23
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, cause because we have Wendigos apparently just outside of town. but
00:52:28
Curtis.Riersgard
Okay. Okay.
00:52:29
Lee Hatfield
yeah Anyway, Curtis, as as I said, it's been an absolute pleasure. I've thoroughly enjoyed talking to you. And for now, my friend, I wish you a great evening because you're two hours behind me.
00:52:42
Curtis.Riersgard
Yep.
00:52:42
Lee Hatfield
And hopefully we'll stay in touch and maybe we can get you back on again.
00:52:46
Curtis.Riersgard
Yeah, that'd be cool. I'd be happy to come back. This was awesome.
00:52:50
Lee Hatfield
Awesome. Thanks a lot, my friend. You take care.
00:52:51
Curtis.Riersgard
Yes, you too.
00:52:53
Lee Hatfield
Okay, bye-bye.