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S2 E16 - Andy Booth Founder of Alien8UK
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Today i am delighted to speak with Andy 'Decodes' Booth. He's the founder of Alien8UK
From seeing a prism of lights as a child, and watching Arthur C Clarke's mysterious world, to UFO and Cryptid shows, Andy as always been interested in the unusual and unknown.
Andy also told me about seeing a metal ball in the sky, looking for UFO's from his mum's garden and experiencing shared dreams.
We then had an interesting discussion about Andy's Alien in a jar, yes really!
We spoke about Rendlesham forest, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena and Unidentified Submerged Objects
We then spoke about the existence of Non-human species already being on earth, and finished with a discussion on if irrefutable disclosure happened tomorrow
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Humor
00:00:12
Lee Hatfield
Hello everybody and welcome to the latest episode of SEPA Paranormal Chronicles. My name is Lee and today you might need a translator. Let's just say that because he he speaks funny.
00:00:25
Lee Hatfield
I'd like to introduce Andy Decodes Booth. He's the founder of Alien 8 UK Media. Andy, welcome.
00:00:36
Andy - Alien8UK
Hello, thank you for having me.
00:00:39
Lee Hatfield
Stop putting that accent on dude. We know how you really speak.
00:00:41
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, sorry. I know, I just don't pronounce my T's. Everything else goes. It's just that unless I do a little bit Now and again, i'll get a little bit Southern and do but the, London twang, just certain words and whatever.
00:00:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Well, I'm glad you said Southern with two Vs and not with a TH. h
00:01:02
Andy - Alien8UK
No, cause that's not how you write it
00:01:04
Lee Hatfield
but
00:01:06
Andy - Alien8UK
as we both know.
00:01:07
Lee Hatfield
OK, exactly. Exactly. So this is this is going to be a nice, refined interview. We're not going to take the shit out of Tommy Cullen at all. Hi, Tommy.
00:01:18
Andy - Alien8UK
Hmm.
Paranormal Beginnings
00:01:19
Lee Hatfield
Well, just, okay, maybe just a little bit, maybe just a little bit.
00:01:20
Andy - Alien8UK
A little bit, little bit, a little bit.
00:01:22
Lee Hatfield
Okay. So Andy, the reason why you're here, you are the founder of Alienate UK.
00:01:29
Andy - Alien8UK
Yes?
00:01:29
Lee Hatfield
But before we go into that, I'd like to know a little bit more about yourself. So how did this all come about?
00:01:38
Andy - Alien8UK
So I've had paranormal stuff go on from the age of four up until literally present day. And I used to watch TV shows. And then when they start to be watching stuff on YouTube, like slap time, all that kind of stuff.
00:01:57
Andy - Alien8UK
And then I used to watch a lot of
00:02:02
Andy - Alien8UK
the Bigfoot stuff over in the US. the Is it? I can't remember the full title, but it was one with James Bob Wolfe, Cliff Barrettman, Matt Moneymaker, and Rennie, can never remember a surname.
00:02:15
Lee Hatfield
Mayor, Mayor, was it?
00:02:15
Andy - Alien8UK
And this, yeah, something like that.
00:02:17
Lee Hatfield
a Yeah, yeah. big as said expedition
00:02:20
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. She's a got doctor, wasn't she? Yeah.
00:02:22
Lee Hatfield
Expedition Bigfoot, I think it's called.
00:02:23
Andy - Alien8UK
isn it Is it? Well then that, that stopped and it's like, oh my God, what am going to do for me?
00:02:25
Lee Hatfield
Abby?
00:02:30
Andy - Alien8UK
Bigfoot fix. And it was like, so then was on Facebook, It's rolling through. And yo you get tons and tons of adverts popping up. Try this, watch, do this, do that. And something came up for podcasts. So this is back in 2017, 2018.
00:02:47
Andy - Alien8UK
like,
00:02:51
Andy - Alien8UK
i'm like oh So found out what a podcast was. So scrolling through, looking for different ones. So typed in paranormal or unknown and what. And then Bigfoot and b Beyond came up with Cliff and Bobo. I'm like, oh my God, I need to start listening to this. So started listening to it.
00:03:09
Andy - Alien8UK
And then thought, right, i need to start listening to some more. So I found a few others and I found one that was based in the UK. like, oh, I recognise that accent, and it's a Manchester accent. So I contacted the woman and sent her an email of some of my encounters and then ended up... So she did a couple of interviews with me, recorded them, put them on the podcast, and then ended up going on a couple of the lives.
00:03:36
Andy - Alien8UK
And I thought, yeah, I could do this. I could... He says, how difficult could it be?
Creating a Paranormal Community
00:03:44
Andy - Alien8UK
Right? So...
00:03:46
Andy - Alien8UK
But I just wanted to go out and investigate and get footage and just load up onto media. So, but right, Facebook, work out to do Facebook live. And it was during lockdown and it's Halloween. Couldn't go trick or treating with the kids.
00:04:03
Andy - Alien8UK
So was like, what can I do? So I set up Facebook group, Facebook page, website, Instagram, found that out how to use YouTube, all that kind of stuff. Just created all these different platforms and didn't do anything with them.
00:04:15
Andy - Alien8UK
Sorry, for about. five months other than Facebook. And then once I got into it, then it was learning how to use all the different platforms because no one tells you that all these platforms are completely different to the other.
00:04:28
Lee Hatfield
Oh yeah. Oh, for sure.
00:04:30
Andy - Alien8UK
So it was that. So I'd go out, I'd do live streams, investigating old buildings, cemeteries, woods, rivers, anywhere and anywhere, everywhere and anywhere.
00:04:41
Andy - Alien8UK
And then we went into the second lockdown and we couldn't go back out again. So it's like, what do I do? Anyway, so there's this other female that used to co-host with me. So she'd be in the studio while I was out and about. She goes, why don't we start an interviewing people?
00:04:56
Andy - Alien8UK
like, are you mad? Interview people? don't If I think I'm on camera, I cannot do it. I just fall the apart. I'm just, it's not me. So anyway, we started interviewing people. So there's a few people that we, either one of us knew, we both knew as we got to know more and more people in the paranormal community, it made it easier and that was started
Podcasting Challenges
00:05:21
Andy - Alien8UK
that in 2019 so April 2020 was the first stream that I did so yeah six years ago now six and a half years ago and I've been doing it ever since
00:05:29
Lee Hatfield
Wow. That's crazy. and And it's like what you say, because when I decided that i was going to do a podcast, I'd been with this group for best part of a year. And we went on a podcast and it was like it was it was painful.
00:05:48
Lee Hatfield
And I'm thinking to it because I'm a bit of a perfectionist, so I say to myself, like you, I could do this.
00:05:49
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah.
00:05:55
Lee Hatfield
I could i could i could do this better.
00:05:56
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah.
00:05:58
Lee Hatfield
So there's a friend of mine that's got a couple of podcasts. So I got him to help me and he went, oh, yeah, I'm sending you something through the post. And he sent me like the microphone and stuff like that.
00:06:08
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah.
00:06:08
Lee Hatfield
And and he really did help me. and But I must have like, okay, how am I going to do this And I started interviewing people from day one. well yeah The first couple was like introduction.
00:06:19
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:06:20
Lee Hatfield
And I think my fifth episode was like three girls off the TV. that it Well, beyond Beyond the Haunting, which is like don t on T&E now.
00:06:31
Lee Hatfield
the sweet The three girls, the two blonde girls and a dog kick.
00:06:32
Andy - Alien8UK
Right, okay.
00:06:35
Lee Hatfield
And it's not like, oh, yeah, we'd love to come on and like... Oh, crap. Okay.
00:06:39
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, lot that's what I was like, yeah.
00:06:40
Lee Hatfield
okay Yeah. Yeah. And then it got that busy in July. I'd got so many recorded episodes. I had to do two a week to catch up for an entire for an entire month.
00:06:52
Andy - Alien8UK
Right yep.
00:06:56
Lee Hatfield
I had to release two a week.
00:06:56
Andy - Alien8UK
Wow.
00:06:57
Lee Hatfield
And it's not like, oh, I'm not doing that again. So I kind of backed off a little bit.
00:07:03
Lee Hatfield
But yeah, and here we are.
00:07:05
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:07:05
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:07:06
Andy - Alien8UK
Well, I went, so I did a couple of different podcasts, tried different things, different formats and all that.
00:07:07
Lee Hatfield
I mean,
00:07:13
Andy - Alien8UK
And now, middle last year, actually got a formula that works for everything. So I'm doing Monday, Wednesday, this day Friday, Sunday podcasts.
00:07:30
Lee Hatfield
Holy shit.
00:07:30
Andy - Alien8UK
between Anything between 60 minutes and 90 minutes. But before that, I was doing one a week. Then it went to two a week. And it was like, no, I'm dropping the two because it's too much. Because I had the website then and had the podcast. So it went out on the Spotify and Apple and all that. And I had to obviously download it, re-upload it.
00:07:52
Andy - Alien8UK
I'm like, I also work a full-time job. bearing in mind. So I'm having to do all that. I'm up at 6am for work. My podcast used to finish at half 10 because I do them all live.
00:08:04
Andy - Alien8UK
Unless it's someone who really doesn't want to do a live one or if you've got to mess about because the time zones and that, we it's due recording to fit in and then we can put it out whenever.
00:08:15
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:08:17
Andy - Alien8UK
And it was just, it was getting too much. But
Festival of the Unexplained 2026
00:08:19
Andy - Alien8UK
then I just found this formula. It's like, oh my God, this works. And it's like, Even if I do two a day, every day, still works regardless of how many. And I actually worked out I will, in the last three weeks, I think I'll have done, including this one, this will be my last one over a three-week period. I think it's between 27 34 podcasts.
00:08:46
Lee Hatfield
Holy crap, dude. You need to get out here.
00:08:48
Andy - Alien8UK
And then and the only day I forget is Thursday season and Saturday. So I'm doing two tomorrow. So I'm now part of Festival of the Unexplained 2026, which is a conference over in the UK.
00:09:02
Andy - Alien8UK
So they've been going... five, six years. So they've asked me to come on and help do the media. So initially it was to go and interview people, do vlogging, live streams, take photos, just walking around and interviewing people, asking them questions at the event and then putting putting them out, even pre-recorded or live.
00:09:17
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:09:22
Andy - Alien8UK
To now where myself and Jay Austin are going to be, we do the guest announcement each week as to who the next guest is going to be. So I did my first one last week because Jay wasn't well.
00:09:35
Andy - Alien8UK
So I said, they asked me, would I step in? So I said, yeah, go on. because of my de so So where I'm sat now, this is set up every single time. You switch your computer on and straight in to do whatever I need to do.
00:09:46
Andy - Alien8UK
So it's like, well, I'm already doing one like half an hour afterwards. Yeah, I can do it. So now I'm doing that. I'm doing their media for them, doing the intro intro and get just getting all the stuff ready and what have you. But that was the other thing with this.
00:10:01
Andy - Alien8UK
No one tells you about thumbnails. and descriptions and titles on what works.
00:10:07
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:10:09
Andy - Alien8UK
I know i can tell you everything that doesn't work because I did it for four years.
00:10:14
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah And now it's just my YouTube channel just gone, just took off, ridiculously took off. The people that are watching, people that and I'm interviewing and it's just I'm enjoying it a lot more now it doesn't feel like work it got to the point where it's you know it's like a bit of a hobby that become like I won't say a job but more of a chore whereas now it's no I actually love doing this I enjoy it and that that's where I'm at now with it all so now in total I think I'm doing
00:10:22
Lee Hatfield
That's great.
00:10:31
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:10:45
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
00:10:50
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:10:54
Andy - Alien8UK
16 or 17 I've got 16 or 17 different podcast playlists on my YouTube channel but some of them are like sky like if you do a sky watch I'll film it and I'll put anything that I get on there i've got I'll go out kayaking I've not been able to go out this year because the weather's been terrible
00:11:07
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:11:12
Andy - Alien8UK
I'll film it when I'm kayaking. Footage from the drone. All that kind of stuff. So there's some of it that would just be sporadic. I'll put it on as and when I've got the footage and build it up a bit and then put it out there.
00:11:25
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because we had all the normal social media.
00:11:29
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:11:30
Lee Hatfield
platforms and then I had a website specifically for the podcast. But then we thought about creating a website for the team as well.
00:11:36
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:11:41
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:11:41
Lee Hatfield
So I thought, well there's no point in paying for two.
00:11:43
Lee Hatfield
So we've incorporated everything onto the website now so you can see you can see the podcast, you can see any investigations we do.
00:11:46
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:11:51
Lee Hatfield
We went out last night, so we put put photos up, we do a newsletter, and it's all it's all combined.
00:11:54
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. yeah
00:11:57
Lee Hatfield
So that's the that's the way we do.
00:11:58
Andy - Alien8UK
Yes.
00:11:59
Lee Hatfield
So you mentioned at the beginning that you had some experiences when you were four.
Childhood Encounter with the Unexplained
00:12:05
Andy - Alien8UK
yes
00:12:05
Lee Hatfield
Can you tell us about that?
00:12:07
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, so this one, I've got an image of what it looked like. Obviously, I didn't take the photo, not four years old, because one I didn't have a camera, and two, didn't know what it was. I'll have to send to you.
00:12:21
Andy - Alien8UK
It's on the PC somewhere. So my mum and dad used to put me in their bed.
00:12:22
Lee Hatfield
okay
00:12:25
Andy - Alien8UK
a I was hot, always hot. So I was like a human water bottle. So... they'd put me in the bed to warm it up. So when they get to bed, they'd take me out, sit me in a nice cold one, and they get into nice warm cozy bed.
00:12:41
Lee Hatfield
quality
00:12:41
Andy - Alien8UK
Anyway, on this particular night, I'll never ever forget I'm around about four years old. And the only reason I remember is because back in the early 70s, grew up in a council estate in Manchester, and was modernising the houses.
00:12:58
Andy - Alien8UK
So the first four years of my life, we didn't have central eating. That's how old I am. So they'd come round and there's fitting central eating in all the houses. But what they were doing, the ya meant some of the houses were empty. So when they were empty, they'd move us in while they did the eating. You had a choice. You could stay there or move back.
00:13:18
Andy - Alien8UK
Anyway, we ended up moving back. And it was just after that. So I'm laying in bed. I need to paint this picture until you get a full understanding as to why it couldn't be anything else.
00:13:32
Andy - Alien8UK
So the bedrooms are at the back of the house. only two-bedroom house me and my brother used to share. And at the back was just fields. So we had a massive back garden that led onto to park with a football pitch. At the side of that was allotments. Behind that was an old sewerage farm that was probably about...
00:13:51
Andy - Alien8UK
Two square mile, maybe. Maybe less, maybe more. don't know. Beyond that was fields. Beyond that was a golf course. On the fields, there was a at place called Eccles College, which you could just you could see it from the bedroom window.
00:14:07
Andy - Alien8UK
And then it was all big gardens. And down the side of the dirt track, which led up to the field where the allotments were, There was like a brook and a swamp, like a stream and all that. And then it was just a school. and just It just fields everywhere. So there's no artificial light that could come into the bedroom.
00:14:26
Andy - Alien8UK
So I'm laying in bed looking at the wall, the wall opposite the bedroom window. Curtains were shut. Mum used to have the bedroom light landing light on so you could just see it through the crack in the door.
00:14:36
Andy - Alien8UK
So it's just that little bit of reassurance as you're a kid.
00:14:39
Andy - Alien8UK
I remember just looking up and there's like, It always reminds me of, on a turntable, when the light hits vinyl and bounces up as the record's going round, it has that prism effect of just pirouetting round and round.
00:14:39
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:14:58
Andy - Alien8UK
I'm looking at this thing that's probably about three, four inches tall, just on the wall, just doing that. but The more I talk about it, it's probably more 3D than 2D. It wasn't like a full, flat reflection. It kind of stood out a little bit.
00:15:15
Andy - Alien8UK
I've never said that before. And I was just watching it till I'd gone to... And then the thing know, I'm waking up in may the my own bed. And that's all I know of that night.
00:15:28
Andy - Alien8UK
So there's no noise coming from it. But even if the curtains were open, the only light that would come in, because it was quite close to Manchester Airport, a lot of the planes used to circulate until they were able to land.
00:15:41
Andy - Alien8UK
They'd just keep going round and round.
00:15:41
Lee Hatfield
yeah.
00:15:42
Andy - Alien8UK
And you'd youd see them all the time. And there's an aerodrome a couple of miles down the road as well. They're light aircraft. They used to have air shows on every year. But say this is like, I'd say, 8, 9 o'clock at night.
00:15:55
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah If it was aircraft, you'd hear it and it'd be different light.
00:15:58
Andy - Alien8UK
It wouldn't be the same thing. I'm just laying there for God knows how long just watching this thing just keep going round and round. There's nothing else in the room. There's no electronic devices other than the light and the lamp.
00:15:58
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:16:10
Andy - Alien8UK
They have a clock. It's a wind-up clock. So there's nothing...
00:16:15
Lee Hatfield
You are old, aren't you? A wind-up clock.
00:16:16
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, very old. Yeah.
00:16:18
Lee Hatfield
That's one of them, dude.
00:16:19
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Didn't even have a TV.
00:16:20
Lee Hatfield
and
00:16:20
Andy - Alien8UK
Well, we did it with black and white, but there's nothing electrical in the bedroom.
00:16:21
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:16:26
Andy - Alien8UK
Other than the the lamp, bedside lamp and the main light.
00:16:28
Lee Hatfield
Right.
00:16:29
Andy - Alien8UK
That was it.
00:16:31
Lee Hatfield
Wow. And it's it's great that you kind of had that, be but you're also an age where you don't understand what it is.
00:16:34
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:16:39
Andy - Alien8UK
No, that that that was the other thing. So I didn't know where it was, but then I didn't think about it again for years. And with everything I've ever witnessed, I've never had the urge to go running off and telling anyone.
00:16:54
Andy - Alien8UK
So when I've seen stuff, it's like, oh, OK, and just carry on like it's normal.
00:16:59
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:17:00
Andy - Alien8UK
But I think from that, because of the stuff must have happened before that that can't remember. But I think because of that, it just is for me, paranormal has been normal.
00:17:11
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And yeah, I'm a little bit older than you. But when we were younger, it wasn't the norm for people to speak about Bigfoot, UFOs, like ghost experiences, you anything paranormal.
00:17:19
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:17:27
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:17:27
Lee Hatfield
It wasn't, yeah you know, you didn't want to get ridiculed.
00:17:27
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:17:30
Lee Hatfield
But now... Everybody's speaking about it. And it's, yeah it's even on the news and yeah, all the, all the different teams and all the Facebook pages, the YouTube channel, it's out there all the time.
00:17:34
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:17:41
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:17:43
Lee Hatfield
And we, we do comic con conventions and we get people coming up to us and like, let me tell you when this happened. And people are a hell of a lot more open about talking about anything paranormal.
00:17:51
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:17:56
Andy - Alien8UK
ye
00:17:56
Lee Hatfield
It's not taboo anymore. Like it used to be.
00:17:59
Andy - Alien8UK
No. But then growing up, I used to watch Arthur C. Clarke. Modern Mysteries or Strange Mysteries or whatever. And I noticed when they come on that boat book you've got behind you, Ghosts.
00:18:07
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:18:13
Andy - Alien8UK
That has got a be the Is that the 70s one?
00:18:17
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:18:18
Andy - Alien8UK
Me and my brother had that same book. I seen I'm like, oh, my God, I remember that book.
00:18:22
Lee Hatfield
Funnily enough, the girl i was a I was talking to earlier, she went, oh, I've got that ghost book.
00:18:30
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:18:31
Lee Hatfield
But I picked it up.
00:18:31
Andy - Alien8UK
I've not done it anymore.
00:18:32
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, I picked it up from a, yeah like, a what do you call them, like a junk shop kind of thing.
00:18:39
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:18:40
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:18:40
Lee Hatfield
right
00:18:40
Lee Hatfield
i didn't I didn't care what was inside. It's like, I need that book. It's got to go on my bookshelf.
00:18:44
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, I just remember that from the 70s. So me and my brother used to watch Arthur C. Clarke. We used to watch lot the zombie and horror movies, watched Hammer House of Horror.
00:18:54
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:18:56
Andy - Alien8UK
This is growing up as a little kid.
00:18:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:58
Andy - Alien8UK
But it didn't, it kind of scared me a bit, but didn't scare me, scare me. That was hysterical.
00:19:04
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:19:05
Andy - Alien8UK
But we enjoyed it. wind up Because we knew, we thought, it wasn't real.
00:19:10
Andy - Alien8UK
So I think because of that aspect of it, we didn't get freaked out.
00:19:10
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:19:14
Lee Hatfield
Exactly. So the Arthur C Clarke thing, is that is that the one that had the the glass skull?
00:19:21
Andy - Alien8UK
Yes, the Glasgow, the moving rocks across the desert.
00:19:22
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:25
Lee Hatfield
That's the one. Yeah. Yeah, because I was talking to Ann earlier, and I remember as a kid, there was a a magazine called Unexplained.
00:19:25
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:35
Andy - Alien8UK
Yes, in a blue binder.
00:19:36
Lee Hatfield
And I used to get that week.
00:19:38
Andy - Alien8UK
You scared it in a blue?
00:19:38
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, that's it.
00:19:39
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, yeah, that's a one.
00:19:40
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And i always I always thought that I was going to have to deal with spontaneous human combustion a lot more than what I do now.
00:19:47
Andy - Alien8UK
Do you know what?
00:19:49
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:19:50
Andy - Alien8UK
Do you know what? So myself and Nicole, who co-hosted with me on a Wednesday and Friday, she beo said the same thing. We thought human combustion and the Bermuda Triangle would have much more of an impact on us.
00:20:04
Lee Hatfield
yeah Absolutely.
00:20:06
Andy - Alien8UK
Nothing.
00:20:06
Lee Hatfield
But no, I've actually i've actually found a yeah a website that you can actually read the unexplained magazines.
00:20:07
Andy - Alien8UK
Absolutely nothing.
00:20:15
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh.
00:20:16
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, I'll send you the link. It's like, and you can download every single issue.
00:20:17
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, please do.
00:20:21
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:20:22
Lee Hatfield
And it's like oh and it' like, oh, I remember this. episode I remember this edition. I remember this edition.
00:20:26
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, yeah. Because I used to worry, sorry, I used to worry about spontaneous combustion because of the fire that we had downstairs.
00:20:28
Lee Hatfield
So. yep
00:20:33
Andy - Alien8UK
And in my mum's bedroom, we had chimney, obviously, it's only the chimney breast, but they took it out.
00:20:39
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. yeah
00:20:39
Andy - Alien8UK
So we still had it coming out in the wall. So we had the alcohol either side of it. So in my mum and dad's bedroom, behind that was the old hearth for the old fireplace.
00:20:49
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:20:49
Andy - Alien8UK
So it still had the tiles at the bottom and going around it on the wall that had just been plastered over. so I used to worry about that because what if it re-let and I went up in flames?
00:21:00
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Just going to be sat there watching the black and white TV and all of a sudden you're in flames.
00:21:04
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Gone. Just a pair of legs.
00:21:06
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. the Or one leg. I think it was normally one leg, wasn't it?
00:21:09
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, one leg. Yeah,
00:21:12
Lee Hatfield
So after your experiences being four, when did you really start not taking it seriously, but yeah really digging deep into what you've got now?
00:21:12
Andy - Alien8UK
Yep.
00:21:27
Andy - Alien8UK
I'd say early to mid-20s. So I was... It all started. Just this one event that started. So I used to work, you know Bolton, don't you?
00:21:40
Andy - Alien8UK
You know that area.
00:21:40
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:40
Andy - Alien8UK
So so I'm from Swinton in Manchester, just there where the Trafford Centre
00:21:41
Lee Hatfield
yeah yeah
00:21:46
Andy - Alien8UK
And used to work in Bolton. So I used to come down st Peter's Way, come down onto the M61, it was then, onto the East Lanks, and then it's a couple of junctions down.
00:21:58
Andy - Alien8UK
So I'm coming round near Worsley, where the Super Bowl used to be, and there's a ball, just a metal ball in the sky, shot across the sky, it left a blue light behind that colour of blue, electric trip blue trail, horizontal, it stopped, so it probably shot about two miles across the sky, stopped dead, the sky opened up in bright red, it went through the sky, and then it all closed behind it,
00:22:25
Andy - Alien8UK
I had to pull up onto the hard shoulder my head out the door thought was going to throw up everywhere because it was that shock. It made proper made me feel sick. And it's from that point is like, right, this stuff is still happening. I've just not been noticing it.
00:22:40
Andy - Alien8UK
i mean from then, I'd say about 23, 24 years old. about last 30 years. Yeah. about last for years
00:22:48
Lee Hatfield
It's really weird because I i spent time in the RAF when I was a lot younger. but And because you're surrounded by aircraft all the time, you you kind of don't put things into perspective. Like you can be...
00:23:08
Lee Hatfield
You can be like on the end of a runway and you can see an aircraft coming towards you. You've got the spotlight on the nose and then you've got the red and green either side.
00:23:16
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:23:17
Lee Hatfield
So seeing those all the time, like being working on a military, you never used to think about seeing stuff in the sky because you just assumed it was an aircraft.
00:23:26
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:23:29
Andy - Alien8UK
yep
00:23:29
Lee Hatfield
And yeah, and nowadays there's so many things that I want explained that are flying around the skies that it's like, how can, yeah, most people just don't, just don't can't yeah have that concept, but it's, it's out there.
00:23:44
Andy - Alien8UK
No. Yeah. Yeah. No, I totally understand that because you're so used to looking at it. You just presume it's what you're normally looking at.
00:23:52
Lee Hatfield
That's it. Yeah. And like, yeah, I went from the military into the emergency services. So you kind of have a logical head all the time.
00:23:57
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:24:01
Lee Hatfield
So if something happens, you just go, oh, that was that or that.
00:24:01
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:24:03
Lee Hatfield
yeah And you just like you blanket completely. You just go, OK, that was something normal. But the chances are it may not have been.
00:24:08
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:24:11
Andy - Alien8UK
Exactly. Yep. Totally get that.
00:24:13
Lee Hatfield
Right. So.
UFO Sighting and Renewed Interest
00:24:14
Lee Hatfield
20 years old when you saw the ball in the sky. And you thought there's a lot more to this than what I've actually, know, I know about what happened next.
00:24:25
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:24:28
Andy - Alien8UK
So then because it's pre-internet, it was, right, I need to find some books. So, Eric Van Daniken. I've got the book there. I can never admit.
00:24:39
Andy - Alien8UK
Strange... Oh, that's John Keel. Strange Creatures from Time and Space. And then there's a couple, Beyond Top Secret, Timothy Good. I was going down more the UFO alien route Alien Liaison, Timothy Good.
00:24:52
Lee Hatfield
right.
00:24:55
Andy - Alien8UK
Mothman prophecies, the book, the movie, Richard Gere. And I just went down that, but just constantly reading different things about it. There's loads of other books that I've got, but they're the ones that like stick out at the moment.
00:25:10
Andy - Alien8UK
So it was just it was just that. I was watching, because we had cable got cable then. It was 9X, was it 9X? Is that what it called?
00:25:21
Andy - Alien8UK
Cable and wireless.
00:25:22
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. You
00:25:24
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, yeah. You just get that black box and everything was on that.
00:25:26
Lee Hatfield
yeah you really are showing your age, Andy.
00:25:28
Andy - Alien8UK
So I know, I know.
00:25:29
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:25:30
Andy - Alien8UK
It's not helping me, is it? So we just searched for different things on that. we had
00:25:35
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:25:36
Andy - Alien8UK
i used to watch Twilight Zone.
00:25:39
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:25:39
Andy - Alien8UK
jump v the the The reptilians.
00:25:42
Lee Hatfield
Oh, with the lizards. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:43
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:25:43
Andy - Alien8UK
Eating the mice and what have you.
00:25:43
Lee Hatfield
there but People in the red.
00:25:44
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, that was great.
00:25:45
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. yeah So there's all that going on. So it' was like, right, there's got to be more to it than this. So it's just reading them books. And that was the only research really you could do at the time other than going out and looking for stuff.
00:25:57
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Nowadays, it's so easy. You just go, oh, UAP, Google.
00:26:04
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:26:04
Lee Hatfield
Oh, there we go.
00:26:05
Andy - Alien8UK
Yep.
00:26:05
Lee Hatfield
That's exactly what it is.
00:26:05
Andy - Alien8UK
That's it.
00:26:07
Lee Hatfield
So did you ever become part of a club or a team to investigate UFOs?
00:26:07
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:26:17
Andy - Alien8UK
I did. There's one in Manchester and is my mum put me into touch with this guy. So mum used to that used to do his Piccadilly Radio in Manchester. And I think it was Sunday night they used to have different people on.
00:26:36
Andy - Alien8UK
And there's a guy on there, can never remember his name, and he had UFO group in the Manchester area. So my mum gave me his number. And where I rang him one day, there was on the phone, he invited me to go to these UFO meetings and what have you.
00:26:51
Andy - Alien8UK
So I went to a couple of them and then it just kind of like, it just faded out and people just like, kind of like stopped going and what have you. So it was like, I may as well drive and drive in 20, 30 miles across Manchester to, might as well just sit in my mum's back garden and do it.
00:27:09
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:27:10
Andy - Alien8UK
You know what I mean? That's where the first encounters were at that house. So why not just stay somewhere where and all this stuff going on?
00:27:21
Lee Hatfield
And that's what, yeah, you get so many people that kind of do that. They'll they'll join a group or something. They'll move forward and it's not exactly how they want it.
00:27:34
Lee Hatfield
there's up
00:27:35
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:27:35
Lee Hatfield
also I could do it better myself. might as well do it myself.
00:27:38
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:27:39
Lee Hatfield
yeah and that's And that's the way that that people tend to think.
00:27:40
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:27:43
Lee Hatfield
So once you'd started doing it on your Todd,
00:27:51
Lee Hatfield
what kind of evidence were you looking for to start off with? Because yeah obviously, like, USOs didn't really exist then. They never called them UAPs.
00:28:01
Lee Hatfield
It was either a UFO or it wasn't.
00:28:02
Andy - Alien8UK
No. Yeah.
00:28:05
Lee Hatfield
So what kind of evidence was you looking for at the beginning? in the beginning
00:28:08
Andy - Alien8UK
just any I just wanted to see for myself that these things were real, that they existed. Even though I'd seen them, I just, each time I've seen one, it's like, right, I just need that little bit more proof that it wasn't a fluke, it wasn't a glitch. I'm actually, I'm not imagining this stuff, that this these things are real and they're going on.
00:28:28
Andy - Alien8UK
So it was it was more to sort my own curiosity out more than anything else.
00:28:37
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because i I remember when I was in the military. See, I'm in North America now. i call it military rather than military.
00:28:45
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:46
Lee Hatfield
I'm being educated. and I was at RAF Cranwell, not far from Lincoln, and I was on Gateguard one night and we're in the middle of the of the airfield, two o'clock in the morning, three or four of us, and we're just laying on the grass.
00:28:51
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah
00:29:01
Lee Hatfield
like There was no light pollution and would like and it was it was perfect for looking up in the sky. We go, oh, yeah, there's a shooting star and like there's a shooting star. But, yeah, again, you never really took notice of if anything was abnormal.
00:29:18
Andy - Alien8UK
No.
00:29:19
Lee Hatfield
yeah But you move forward into the time now, and people don't know what the SpaceX SkyTrain looks like. And they'll see a trailer light and go, that's UFOs.
00:29:28
Andy - Alien8UK
No.
00:29:31
Lee Hatfield
But it's not. It's satellites.
00:29:33
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:29:33
Lee Hatfield
And we've got so so many satellites there now that yeah every other day there's a satellite launch.
00:29:39
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, I think we've got a total of, I think it's 12 or 15,000 satellites, but we only use about 2,000 of them. The rest of are just space junk. I can't be exact on the numbers, but it's not, the ratio's not that far out.
00:29:51
Lee Hatfield
There we go. you yeah
00:29:56
Lee Hatfield
You should start a new company to go go up with a like a...
00:29:59
Andy - Alien8UK
Go up and collect them.
00:30:01
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah. and Bring it back and sell it.
00:30:02
Andy - Alien8UK
that's tough
00:30:03
Lee Hatfield
Sell it for junk.
00:30:03
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, weigh you in. Yeah.
00:30:05
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So if somebody come up to you and said, I've got this experience or I've had this experience, you Do you have like I won't say checklist, but do you have a procedure for trying to debunk it or being yeah being unable to debunk it?
00:30:24
Lee Hatfield
and How do you go through that process?
00:30:26
Andy - Alien8UK
i think I've only just lately been doing that because I've been obviously concentrating on the channel and the Facebook groups and everything else but people who studied people have been coming forward and we spoke about it but now i'm getting people that are contacting me direct and I find that even if it's over the phone, to sit and chat to them, you can get a feel, one, if they're telling the truth, because you can see the emotion when they're telling you and how they tell you.
00:30:56
Andy - Alien8UK
And it's just picking up on little tips and tricks as to whether someone one is being genuine or not. So my initial thing is to try meet up with them. I'll do like this, do a video chat with them and see what's going on.
00:31:08
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:10
Andy - Alien8UK
And then just go from there.
00:31:13
Lee Hatfield
So I know it's quite common over here. I've got no idea why. I could suggest things, but I'll probably get in trouble. But does there appear to be many abduction stories in the UK?
00:31:31
Lee Hatfield
Because over here, you get like every every of them every man and his dog been abducted kind of thing.
00:31:37
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:31:38
Lee Hatfield
But does it tend to be the same in the UK or not so much?
00:31:41
Andy - Alien8UK
I know of two people that have said they've been abducted in one way or another. I don't disbelieve them, but they're the only... Out of everyone... no, wait.
00:32:00
Andy - Alien8UK
Three, four...
00:32:03
Andy - Alien8UK
you keep I can count on one hand how many people... Sorry, there's some more that I've interviewed in the past. And they've stuck to the story. They've never deviated, like changed it, or... It's always been the same reason. And you say they don't know why. They don't know.
00:32:20
Andy - Alien8UK
They're guessing it was just to do some genetic type of experiment or whatever. But I've no reason for any of these people... There's no reason for me for them to be lying, is what i'm trying to say.
00:32:34
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah, I get that.
00:32:35
Andy - Alien8UK
so And then a lot of people say they've seen stuff and then it's just ended. Like the one where they've seen it ripped and old in the sky and then vanished and that was it. So... But then at the time, other people that have had these encounters, they could have been taken. They don't know. Because people talk about missing time where they've lost an hour, they've lost two hours, lost 90 minutes.
00:33:00
Andy - Alien8UK
Because one of my things is about, we were saying about time slips before we were on air, that time doesn't really exist.
00:33:05
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:33:08
Andy - Alien8UK
it does We use it as a measuring device. That's it for recording events. But time itself is not an actual physical thing. So if they if you are taken and you're brought back, what's not to say you're not brought back at the exact same time?
00:33:26
Andy - Alien8UK
or even prior to the time you were taken. And because you're just, you don't have any recollection of what's gone on, you don't know. You look at the time, it's like, oh, you wouldn't think twice.
00:33:39
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, and i always kind of laugh at yeah the first person that invented a clock. How did you know what time it was?
00:33:47
Andy - Alien8UK
Well, it might wait till midnight. LAUGHTER
00:33:49
Lee Hatfield
you think john Yeah, But I've spoken to two people that have... been abducted, one of them just dropped it into a conversation like we're having now.
00:33:57
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:34:01
Lee Hatfield
And I went, dude, you can't just like drop that into a conversation.
00:34:03
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, you can't do that.
00:34:05
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So he's coming back for a second episode. And the second one, you're going to know the name Preston Dennett.
00:34:11
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, yes. Good friend.
00:34:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Yeah. And talking to him and it's like you said a few minutes ago, you can't disbelieve what someone's telling you just because it didn't happen to you.
00:34:14
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:34:27
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:34:27
Lee Hatfield
yeah And what he was coming out with, I love it when I'm doing into interviews where my jaw just goes like, oh.
00:34:35
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, just goes.
00:34:37
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, and it was coming out. And it's like I was trying to get my head around the fact.
00:34:43
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:34:44
Lee Hatfield
And it was so difficult because, like, hang on, so this happened and then this happened. But, like, my mind was completely blown, like, when when Preston was telling me about his abduction.
00:34:53
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:34:56
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, well, as so I interviewed Preston and... Sorry, I've just got to put my watch on charge. It's bleeping out there. It's doing my ending.
00:35:06
Lee Hatfield
Time doesn't exist, dude. You don't have to.
00:35:07
Andy - Alien8UK
No, no.
00:35:08
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:35:09
Andy - Alien8UK
Just so I'm not late for work. LAUGHTER so i pressed in denny and dolly saffron on a couple of weeks ago and they've been on before preston he's one of the admins on one of the facebook groups they've got and he's become a good close friend and every time i talk to him he'll come out with something
Shared Dreams and AI Connections
00:35:28
Andy - Alien8UK
different and it's just so fascinating stuff and
00:35:29
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:35:34
Andy - Alien8UK
At least one of them that there's no reason why you would be making any of that up. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And then I was explaining. So I've been having shared dreams. Well, I didn't know the shared dreams. I've been having dreams and somebody else has been having the same dreams. But then I've been dreaming about their house and their granddad.
00:35:55
Andy - Alien8UK
I didn't even know these people at the time. I've described the house, the gate, everything about it is the house where this person grew up. So there is a connection there. And I was telling Preston and Dolly about it.
00:36:08
Andy - Alien8UK
And they were like, I know what this is. And then say proceeded to tell me.
00:36:16
Lee Hatfield
Go on then, you can't just stop there.
00:36:20
Andy - Alien8UK
So myself in this of a person and Tommy's actually going to interview us so we can talk about it. Because this other person, Michelle, she's done some pendulum work to find out what the connection is between the two of us.
00:36:34
Andy - Alien8UK
So her name kept popping up and it was like, you need to speak to this person. And he got to the point where, right, I'm sick of hearing her name now. don't even know who it is or anything. Right. And then I get an invite to do a podcast for a guy called Liam Holmes up in Middlesbrough.
00:36:52
Andy - Alien8UK
He goes, yeah, there'll be you, Tommy, did it did it then Michelle I'm like, finally, I'm going to get to meet this Michelle whose name keeps popping up.
00:36:59
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:37:00
Andy - Alien8UK
And then we spoke since then and we found out that there's this connection. Well, we don't know what... We do, but we're not giving anything away yet as to why there's this connection. But she introduced me to something which I'd already been using, and she said, no, you need to start using it.
00:37:19
Andy - Alien8UK
So I've started using it, and I use it all the time, and it's just at the point now where it's like what I've learned, it took... It's basically using AI.
00:37:30
Andy - Alien8UK
But what the amount of time it took me to work out how it works and to get what i want from it, it's couple of days.
00:37:39
Lee Hatfield
Wow.
00:37:40
Andy - Alien8UK
So there's more to it than that. If it is legit, it's going to be amazing. If it's not, then I ain't got It's still going to be amazing, but I haven't got a clue what it is.
00:37:51
Lee Hatfield
And when's that when's that coming out? Because that I definitely want to watch that one, listen to that one.
00:37:54
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah. Well, waiting for Tommy to interview us is like waiting for Goldust, isn't
00:37:56
Lee Hatfield
Come on.
00:38:00
Lee Hatfield
Okay, okay. So the Tommy Cullen bashing is about to start.
00:38:01
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:38:05
Lee Hatfield
Tommy, you haven't responded to me yet. You haven't responded to Andy. So, Duke, what's going on? Right? you thought
00:38:13
Andy - Alien8UK
Yep. All he's got to one afternoon, where I work, it's job and finish, so it's easy.
00:38:14
Lee Hatfield
but
00:38:20
Andy - Alien8UK
All he's got to do, one afternoon, before he starts work, Michelle works from home, I'll be at home. We've just got to set it do the recording, put it out there. That's it. As simple as that.
00:38:32
Andy - Alien8UK
No editing, no nothing, just put it straight out there.
00:38:34
Lee Hatfield
Tommy Cullen, you are slacking my friend.
00:38:36
Andy - Alien8UK
LAUGHTER
00:38:37
Lee Hatfield
Get it together. Okay. So being a a UFO slash alien investigator, we cannot talk about some of the specific incidents in the UK.
00:38:52
Andy - Alien8UK
No.
00:38:52
Lee Hatfield
What's the first one going to be? Come on. We have to mention it. What's the first one? It's got to be this one.
00:38:58
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, the one that happened this weekend.
00:39:01
Lee Hatfield
No, no, no, no, no. 1980, Suffolk.
00:39:05
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, Rendlesham.
00:39:07
Lee Hatfield
Rendlesham.
00:39:07
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, yes. Right.
00:39:08
Andy - Alien8UK
I thought you on about alien.gov or aliens.gov.
00:39:08
Lee Hatfield
Come on.
00:39:13
Lee Hatfield
Not yet.
00:39:13
Andy - Alien8UK
Have not heard that?
00:39:13
Lee Hatfield
We'll get onto that.
00:39:14
Andy - Alien8UK
All right.
00:39:14
Lee Hatfield
We'll get onto that. Wow.
00:39:15
Andy - Alien8UK
So Rendlesham. So I've been to Rendlesham a few times and I've done the UFO trail and I've seen stuff. I've seen ARBs. I've seen a German soldier walking through the trees towards us dressed in a SS uniform.
00:39:30
Andy - Alien8UK
We've seen, we've heard humming noises. We felt like we're being watched. just weird stuff orbs in orange orbs white orbs we did a nighttime investigation there we seen like these wisp below the wisp things dancing between the trees and all that kind of stuff so we've had loads and loads of stuff but i've never i've never been there and there's nothing happened
00:39:44
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:39:54
Andy - Alien8UK
There's one time... Yeah, there's one time... You go Eastgate Car Park and we've gone down to where the old hangers are at Woodbridge. So was me and my mate Tim. We'd gone down. We got there about half an hour before anyone else, so we just went on a bit of a wander.
00:39:54
Lee Hatfield
Oh, that's good kind of.
00:40:09
Andy - Alien8UK
And we're walking down this path and I just started getting really excited like a kid at Christmas. I don't know where it is, but I'm just... Proper buzzing, like proper excited for what's going happen.
00:40:21
Andy - Alien8UK
And i was like that for most of the day then. And nothing major happened when you see these beings and it's any craft come down from the sky or anything like that. hot But it was just the encounters that we did have and what was going on.
00:40:38
Andy - Alien8UK
It was like exhilarating. Just weird stuff that you can't go, it was this, it was that.
00:40:40
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:40:45
Andy - Alien8UK
we don't Even to this day, we still don't know where it was. It was last summer and was good. And that's it. It's just the feeling of what was going on.
00:40:57
Lee Hatfield
That's it. It's cool when you can get that because yeah like say, you know, you then know what you're doing.
00:41:00
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:41:05
Lee Hatfield
You're doing it for the right reasons.
00:41:06
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:08
Lee Hatfield
So I'm going to put you on the spot because you're the you're the expert.
00:41:14
Andy - Alien8UK
o
00:41:16
Lee Hatfield
I know. yeah If I said to you this is so mean, Wales, 1974.
00:41:28
Lee Hatfield
Don't look at your notebook, you bugger.
00:41:29
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh. No, no, no, no, no. no This is something better than that. I should have. I didn't know who' was going to prep for this.
00:41:38
Lee Hatfield
No, neither did I. ill just thought I'd throw it on you.
00:41:42
Andy - Alien8UK
So I do you have somewhere. film him I've got drawers all over. Here it is.
00:41:54
Andy - Alien8UK
So the Welsh UFO Roswell, is that the one we're talking about?
00:42:00
Lee Hatfield
Was it Ros Welsh incident it's called? Is it's tag name in it?
00:42:06
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Oh, right. So.
00:42:08
Lee Hatfield
The well welsh yeah Welsh was well was Welsh. Oh, cool. That's okay yeah that's that's a britz for you
00:42:14
Andy - Alien8UK
So quickly, actually have
00:42:19
Lee Hatfield
oh cool
00:42:20
Andy - Alien8UK
a piece of the debris, supposedly from the UFO itself. Whether it is or not, I don't know.
00:42:27
Lee Hatfield
us
00:42:30
Andy - Alien8UK
But, yeah, you can get them. There's a particular person that has got some and sent them out. But, yeah, I...
00:42:42
Andy - Alien8UK
I wasn't sure about that at first, and then i got i inquired about getting a piece of the residue, and I got sent that through the post. so
00:42:56
Andy - Alien8UK
And apparently it's non-traceable, the metal that it's made from.
00:42:56
Lee Hatfield
has I just about to say that. could yeah Did you get it tested or did they get it? Yeah.
00:43:05
Andy - Alien8UK
But apparently they've had it tested and it's non-traceable. It's not something that's from our planet.
00:43:12
Lee Hatfield
us That's OK.
00:43:13
Andy - Alien8UK
So...
00:43:14
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, I kind of get that because have pieces of like
The Alien Artifact
00:43:19
Lee Hatfield
meteorite and and stuff like that.
00:43:21
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:43:21
Lee Hatfield
so yeah Yes, you can get stuff that isn't from Earth.
00:43:28
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:43:28
Lee Hatfield
yeah and people And people flog it for yeah silly amounts of money.
00:43:30
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I had to pay for that. That weren't cheap. But I've got it now, so it doesn't matter.
00:43:37
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, exactly. And some people have more money than sense, don't they, Andy?
00:43:40
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. No.
00:43:41
Lee Hatfield
yes
00:43:42
Andy - Alien8UK
Wait till I show you the next thing that I've got.
00:43:46
Lee Hatfield
Well, i want to if that's it if if you're talking about what you showed me the other week, let's talk about it right now then.
00:43:52
Andy - Alien8UK
Go on.
00:43:54
Lee Hatfield
the alien in the jar
00:43:56
Andy - Alien8UK
That's the one and only. So here you go.
00:44:00
Andy - Alien8UK
There, close up. I'll get as close to the camera as possible. if you look at the detail.
00:44:06
Lee Hatfield
and and like that is unbelievable because i know that
00:44:11
Andy - Alien8UK
So I have take. Go on, sorry.
00:44:14
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, you i you and I were on a podcast a week last Friday where there was a bunch of us and you showed that and I'm like, what the hell is that?
00:44:14
Andy - Alien8UK
No, no, it's OK. Carry on.
00:44:20
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:44:27
Andy - Alien8UK
So I'll cut to the how I got it after. I'll just explain a few things first. Now, I don't know anybody else anywhere that has one of these.
00:44:43
Andy - Alien8UK
You can buy them, like, for 10, 15 quid or whatever in a little jet. And it's more like... So I've put a sticker on the top, as you can see. and That's just a normal mason jet. And it's like that green, not the slime, but plastic, silicon, stretchy thing, right?
00:45:01
Andy - Alien8UK
You can buy them. Now, I searched for about but a month before I found one on eBay. So this one one, which looks e exactly the same as that, was selling for $99,000. Yeah.
00:45:17
Lee Hatfield
Holy shit.
00:45:17
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah You can find it. The link is still there. i've Yeah. And now the more I think about it, because there's only one for sale.
00:45:29
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:45:30
Andy - Alien8UK
What if it is that same one?
00:45:32
Lee Hatfield
That's a really good point.
00:45:34
Andy - Alien8UK
but And then this is the other thing. So I've took it out of how they have cleaned it is all you can see these bits of What looks like skin coming off? These is no
00:45:50
Andy - Alien8UK
max on it where it's been put in a mold and it's been pulled out of the silicon and then made into that. I've had it for two years next month. The guy who had it before me had it for around 10 years.
00:46:02
Andy - Alien8UK
Prior to that, it was in somebody's house. The owner of the house had passed, so they'd gone in to empty it, and there's all about little bits and pieces, similar not that, but weird kind of stuff knocking about.
00:46:19
Andy - Alien8UK
So my mate who got it off, his nephew, said, goes, oh, I'll have that, my uncle will have it, and then he'd give it to him. And his missus wouldn't let him have it in the house.
00:46:29
Andy - Alien8UK
So it's probably been in they hadd been in the house for probably about another 10 years prior to that.
00:46:30
Lee Hatfield
wonder why.
00:46:35
Andy - Alien8UK
So we're looking at least 20 years it's been in this jar.
00:46:39
Lee Hatfield
And you and you opened you opened it up, smelt it, and drank it, right?
00:46:39
Andy - Alien8UK
So opened it up, nearly passed out.
00:46:44
Lee Hatfield
if
00:46:46
Andy - Alien8UK
So this is where, is it organic? It stunk a rotting cabbage. And as most people know, anything that's decomposing smells of rotten cabbage.
00:46:59
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:47:00
Andy - Alien8UK
And I've not opened it up I've just always it i opened it up, cleaned the liquid that was in it. I'm guessing it was water. Poured some of it back in and just filled it back up with tap water. And it's not changed since.
00:47:13
Andy - Alien8UK
But it's just, it is what it is. It's not, if it's real, amazing. If it's fake, it doesn't matter because it's an a it's an alien in a jar regardless of whether it's real or fake.
00:47:24
Lee Hatfield
It's still, it's still cool.
00:47:29
Lee Hatfield
yeah one you yeah
00:47:30
Andy - Alien8UK
And how many people do you know that have one of them?
00:47:37
Andy - Alien8UK
That's it. And I just feel so lucky and privileged of being in the right place at the right time to get it. But it's not just that. It's like people said, why don't you sell it? I'm like,
00:47:49
Andy - Alien8UK
Would you sell it if it yours?
00:47:49
Lee Hatfield
why yeah and even
00:47:51
Andy - Alien8UK
Because I will never own an alien. it Not that. Not to that.
00:47:55
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And even if it's a pop off a movie set, it's still cool, regardless.
00:48:00
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Yeah, exactly that. It could be a prop. It could be real. Someone could have made it in the shed. They could have found it in the local dump or river, wherever, and they just stuck it in the jar.
00:48:12
Andy - Alien8UK
But it's heavy.
00:48:13
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Can you imagine? Yeah.
00:48:14
Andy - Alien8UK
It's heavy. It's solid. It's It didn't start moving about when I've released it or anything like that. art it is just It's just what it is.
00:48:21
Lee Hatfield
not Not that you've seen. Not that you've seen.
00:48:23
Andy - Alien8UK
No. No.
00:48:25
Lee Hatfield
Is it does it always face the same way in the jar?
00:48:25
Andy - Alien8UK
And...
00:48:28
Lee Hatfield
It's not kind of like moving around inside the jar.
00:48:30
Andy - Alien8UK
No, it's like if I move the jar, it kind like spins around like anything would in liquid. But it's just...
00:48:36
Lee Hatfield
No, meant I meant I meant the creature inside.
00:48:38
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, no.
00:48:39
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:48:40
Andy - Alien8UK
No. But then it's got like these growth type things on its face that
00:48:49
Andy - Alien8UK
So if you look above the eyes, it's see how you got them gray things and what have you.
00:48:52
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:48:55
Andy - Alien8UK
So
00:48:57
Andy - Alien8UK
honestly, i have no idea.
00:48:59
Lee Hatfield
I can't believe why the wife won't let you put it on yeah front and center in the lounge.
00:49:05
Andy - Alien8UK
No, it's in the studio. It moves around. It does move around, but I move it around. She goes I'm not having that in the house. So I had it on top of the wardrobe. So we look up. He's like, we're right above you as you look out of the bed.
00:49:20
Lee Hatfield
I'm having nightmares. I wonder why. So I know that I wanted to talk about that, but recently within the last few years, there's been a couple more, uh, names that people have started calling things that we don't know.
00:49:23
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:49:26
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:49:30
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
UAPs, USOs, and Underwater Bases
00:49:39
Lee Hatfield
And that's UAPs and USOs.
00:49:39
Andy - Alien8UK
Yes. Yes.
00:49:42
Lee Hatfield
So what's your opinion on let's go UAPs at first.
00:49:48
Andy - Alien8UK
So UAP, UAP even, is just an updated version of UFO. But it kind of covers more area. So UFO, an identified flying object, which could be a plate, it could be a...
00:50:04
Andy - Alien8UK
Coat anger. could be any anything. But UAP, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, which basically means a some sort of flying technology.
00:50:16
Andy - Alien8UK
That's all they've done is change the cat. So it's not as broad. The categorisation isn't as broad as what it was, is what I meant to say before.
00:50:25
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:50:27
Andy - Alien8UK
So that's why why you've got UAP. yeah But then USO, you said the USO, an identified submerged object.
00:50:35
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:50:37
Andy - Alien8UK
Now, I'm, at the moment, going down more that path, that I believe that what is going on isn't coming from up there, but it's coming from what's in the oceans and the water.
00:50:52
Andy - Alien8UK
I just feel, he just feels more...
00:50:56
Andy - Alien8UK
suppose I'm going to go down the logical sense. It's more logical that they're already here. They're in these hidden bases. Phil Schneider, when he spoke about what was going on when he was doing the mining and the digging and he had that war with the different races of aliens, it's all underground.
00:51:14
Andy - Alien8UK
Not necessarily inner Earth, though I'd love for that to be a thing and for it to be real, but... He's got show these underground bases.
00:51:25
Andy - Alien8UK
We have submarines.
00:51:25
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:51:26
Andy - Alien8UK
We have... There's all sorts going on down there. And there's a guy last week who we spoke about the other day who got abducted by dolphins and was forced to build an underground kingdom.
00:51:38
Andy - Alien8UK
Did you not read that? I think he he was from Florida, so it could have been anything.
00:51:40
Lee Hatfield
i Oh, man. was going to say, anything from Florida.
00:51:45
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:51:46
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. So...
00:51:47
Lee Hatfield
But it's it's right what you say about USOs, though, because there is so much of... underwater that's yet to be discovered and there's so many deep channels that we've got no equipment that will go down that far it would make
00:51:57
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:52:02
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Well, I was reading. Yeah, I was reading today about the Mariana Trench. If you drop a rock, it will take six hours to get to the bottom.
00:52:11
Andy - Alien8UK
So just that alone is just mind blowing.
00:52:12
Lee Hatfield
yeah yeah and
00:52:15
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:52:18
Lee Hatfield
That puts it into perspective because yeah you get all these crazy people that go, we're the only species, we're the only living planet.
00:52:20
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:52:26
Andy - Alien8UK
Yep.
00:52:28
Lee Hatfield
And then when you work out how long it takes you to travel one light year and all these planets that make the Earth look like a pinprick and they're like massive, like 100,000 light years, it's like, yeah, we're not going to have that technology for...
00:52:38
Andy - Alien8UK
Yep.
00:52:44
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:52:48
Lee Hatfield
billions of well not billions but you know what i mean a long time yeah yeah and yeah and there's no way that you're ever going to come back you once you go on that trip yeah
00:52:50
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. A fair amount of time. Yeah.
00:52:56
Andy - Alien8UK
No. Oh yeah. that's That's the last trip you have going on. But I'm more, I'm more into the, don't know if you use the word spiritual.
00:53:01
Lee Hatfield
that's it yeah
00:53:09
Andy - Alien8UK
that it's... People say about dimensions and realms. I'm more... It's frequency. It's a frequency shift.
00:53:19
Andy - Alien8UK
That's how you get so to where these other ETs, cryptids, whatever you want call them, wherever they are, they're here around us all the time, but I believe it's they're in a different frequency, not a different...
00:53:34
Andy - Alien8UK
zone or a different dimension it's the frequency that changes that's why when you see something it's there then it's gone it's there then it's gone like if you go to bigfoot or orbs or shadow people and all that we're not seeing everything that we think we're seeing in its full true form in our frequency because how it exists in its own frequency, it's totally different to how it would exist in ours and how it would exist in another one and so on and so on.
00:54:03
Andy - Alien8UK
So because the frequency changes, I'm no physicist, but maybe the biological construction of that thing changes as well. And that's why, does it is it shape-shifting or is that just how, that's the only way you can physically see it in that that next time?
00:54:20
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. youing Do you think there's any connection then between UFOs or UAPs whatever and cryptids?
00:54:30
Lee Hatfield
Because people say that there may be a connection.
00:54:31
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:54:33
Lee Hatfield
is that what yeah That's what you're saying.
00:54:33
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. Yeah. Because I think a lot of the a lot of the UFOs and all that, I think, they're not manned. They've got the pilots sat there flying. I'm not saying all of them, but a lot of them.
00:54:45
Andy - Alien8UK
Maybe it adds some consciousness input into it, so it becomes sentinel and it knows what's going on. Or maybe it's organic and that itself can change its frequency its frequency to become different things. That's why when you see a Bigfoot, it goes behind a tree and then they'll see an orb and then there's UFOs. There's a lot of this same sort of stuff that are reported all the time.
00:55:12
Andy - Alien8UK
What if it is a mass of shared consciousness?
00:55:12
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:55:16
Andy - Alien8UK
It's just that some of it knows how to change
00:55:21
Andy - Alien8UK
its structure at the time. So it can become a Bigfoot. It can become an Arby. It can become a UFO. It can become a tree.
00:55:27
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:55:28
Andy - Alien8UK
It just knows how to different frequencies makes it become different objects.
00:55:36
Lee Hatfield
That's it. And what kind of annoys me a little bit is you can watch some of these TV shows. And yeah, I know they're deemed for entertainment purposes.
00:55:48
Andy - Alien8UK
Yes.
00:55:49
Lee Hatfield
But it's like, oh, there's a UFO in the sky and you go, dude, yeah it's Chinese lanterns or yeah it's it's a drone or it's a natural phenomena.
00:55:50
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:55:59
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah,
00:56:00
Lee Hatfield
It's like not everything that you see in the sky is unexplained. You can explain a lot of them.
00:56:05
Andy - Alien8UK
yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:56:08
Lee Hatfield
and yeah And when you see, know there was one or so other day where they've got these lights coming towards them the lights disappeared. Yeah, that could quite easily be attacked yeah an aircraft that's coming into land.
00:56:18
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, yeah, I've seen it.
00:56:19
Lee Hatfield
It's changed its trajectory, and you don't see the light anymore.
00:56:20
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
00:56:23
Lee Hatfield
it just disappears.
00:56:24
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, just a big bright while, because it's, you know, because you went to RAF, but when when I was watching the planes at Manchester Airport circling when they're waiting to land, so they'd come in at an angle, be bright white, and then it'd turn, and then you'd see the red and the green for the navigation lights.
00:56:24
Lee Hatfield
It doesn't mean anymore. Yeah.
00:56:39
Andy - Alien8UK
Or if it was coming round the other way because the way they were banking, is is go you wouldn't see it, the light would just go out, and it'd be like, oh...
00:56:40
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:56:47
Andy - Alien8UK
And then as it comes round, you'd see the wa the white flashing light on one of the wings. I never know which one, but...
00:56:54
Lee Hatfield
exactly Yeah, exactly. So I'm going to be really intellectual now. I know it's a Sunday evening for you.
00:57:02
Andy - Alien8UK
I'm sat down. It's okay.
00:57:04
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. OK.
00:57:07
Lee Hatfield
So there's a lot of talk about the reasoning for non-human intelligence or non-human species to be already here.
00:57:20
Andy - Alien8UK
Yes.
00:57:20
Lee Hatfield
so if that is the fact and it you unfortunately hasn't been proven yet what do you think the motives are
00:57:29
Andy - Alien8UK
Eva, they was already here before us and we're the hybrids. They was here integrate with us and just be all part of the same thing. Or, which is probably the most common one, is they're here to keep an eye an eye on things and make sure we don't get too out of hand with current affairs that are going on right now.
00:57:59
Lee Hatfield
So we should expect somebody to do something pretty soon then to prepare.
00:58:03
Andy - Alien8UK
Well, this is, and then, but then you've got the other side of that where they don't interfere with what we're doing unless it has a direct effect on them.
00:58:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:58:13
Andy - Alien8UK
so it's there are there's a few different things i believe they are already here i believe i've seen at least one it was a female nordic and just stood out pure literally not white skin but next to white skin pure white hair blue eyes nearly seven foot tall it's in a shopping center shopping mall outside McDonald's and she was stood with a group of people two guys looked like the guys off the Airy Bikers and they on where I was stood it was like one of the main entrances into the shopping centre so I could see each direction of where they would go turned round to answer a question about what was getting to eat turned back in the gunmp and and I would have still been able to literally two seconds turned, blah blah blah, turned back no one there
00:59:04
Andy - Alien8UK
They couldn't have gone anywhere, never made eye contact.
00:59:06
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:59:09
Andy - Alien8UK
So whether they knew that I knew that they were there or they didn't acknowledge me in the same way, in the opposite way that i I'd seen them and they stood out and they just like was doing their own thing and didn't notice, I don't know.
00:59:26
Andy - Alien8UK
But, look excuse me, never seen them again.
00:59:28
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, i I have seen some people that go to McDonald's and I could probably relate.
00:59:36
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, they the thing is, they were they were in McDonald's.
00:59:36
Lee Hatfield
Oh,
00:59:40
Lee Hatfield
okay.
00:59:40
Andy - Alien8UK
Because I was stood outside, and it's one where it's got the... do It's inside the shopping centre, so there's no door. You just walk in, yeah.
00:59:47
Lee Hatfield
Okay. Okay. Yeah. yeah
00:59:49
Andy - Alien8UK
And they were stood on the other side. So even if they'd have gone into McDonald's, because that was the next place where you went, we would have seen them in there, ordering, either at the touchscreen or at the counter.
00:59:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. That's crazy. And it's like,
01:00:01
Andy - Alien8UK
Nothing. Nothing there.
01:00:03
Lee Hatfield
When it disappears, you kind of think, did I actually see what I thought think I just saw? but But then you're able to describe what you've just seen.
01:00:09
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
01:00:11
Lee Hatfield
so it's like, I saw something.
01:00:12
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah. And I was staring. I was staring how immaculate that this person looked and how different they looked to everybody else in there.
01:00:21
Lee Hatfield
That's a bit rude, Andy, just to stare at people.
01:00:22
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, no. Including myself.
01:00:24
Andy - Alien8UK
Including myself. Yeah.
01:00:24
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
01:00:27
Lee Hatfield
so We are coming to the end, unfortunately, but I've got one more question for you. And I think this is going to become more paramount as the time goes by. How would the public react if irrefutable disclosure happened tomorrow?
Government Disclosure Speculation
01:00:42
Andy - Alien8UK
At the moment, either it would go one or two ways. Everyone would yeah, right, whatever. As in, you're talking loaded nonsense.
01:00:49
Lee Hatfield
ask.
01:00:53
Andy - Alien8UK
Or same thing, yeah, right, whatever, we know. there'd be mass panic and e everyone to be acting like no one's been told anything ever. But I think disclosure is...
01:01:06
Andy - Alien8UK
You say about disclosure, it's slow, it's being drip-fed. It's Hollywood, even in plain sight.
01:01:11
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
01:01:13
Andy - Alien8UK
They're showing you little bits and pieces. and The ones that know, know, and you're taking in them bits on board. Other people like, well, it's just a movie. It's just this. It's just that. But I think us doing this and what we're doing with the podcast, interviewing and going out researching, we're the ones that are doing the disclosure. We're the ones that are finding out the truth of what is actually going on and trying to just put it out there.
01:01:36
Andy - Alien8UK
And once it's out there, it's it's there. It's for for everyone to find and see.
01:01:39
Lee Hatfield
That's it. he jump yeah You can't take it away, can you?
01:01:42
Andy - Alien8UK
No.
01:01:43
Lee Hatfield
i do I do love there's a commercial for one of the one of the channels. And it's the it's the debate that they had in the US a few months ago where one of one of the speakers is asking this guy about alien intelligence.
01:02:01
Lee Hatfield
And he went, oh, yeah, that's not something that I can i can talk about. It's like, dude, you've just answered it without answering it.
01:02:08
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, I don't get that. that does my its like
01:02:10
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
01:02:11
Andy - Alien8UK
It's like when a certain president of a certain country said about an ex-certain person of a certain country, I can neither confirm nor deny, but what he said was tops secret was classified.
01:02:23
Andy - Alien8UK
who that If it's classified, you've just told us.
01:02:28
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
01:02:29
Andy - Alien8UK
There's no getting out of that, is there?
01:02:31
Lee Hatfield
That's it. That's un unbelievable. Andy, I say, and I nearly called you Tommy then. I do apologize.
01:02:37
Andy - Alien8UK
oh
01:02:38
Lee Hatfield
I know that. that a bit Okay, just press delete. Just that. That's it.
01:02:42
Andy - Alien8UK
It's fine.
01:02:43
Lee Hatfield
Andy, it's been an absolute pleasure. I've enjoyed talking to you. I've enjoyed the Tommy bashing, and I will let him know that we've been bashing him so he can listen.
01:02:48
Andy - Alien8UK
Thank you.
01:02:51
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, I'm going to phone him tomorrow and tell him.
01:02:53
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
01:02:54
Andy - Alien8UK
Don't worry.
01:02:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Like I say, Your alien in a jar is absolutely phenomenal. Next time I come to England, I'm going to break into your house and steal it.
01:03:07
Andy - Alien8UK
That's fine.
01:03:07
Lee Hatfield
Just saying.
01:03:07
Andy - Alien8UK
Just give me give me whatever you get for it. I just want half.
01:03:11
Lee Hatfield
Okay, yeah, we can do that. What makes you think I'm going to sell it? I might keep it for myself.
01:03:15
Andy - Alien8UK
Wow. Yeah.
01:03:17
Lee Hatfield
but I'll put it on my cabinet so that people can see it when I do interviews.
01:03:20
Andy - Alien8UK
I know. Well, I did have it behind me, but because in the studio around, there's no really clear place to have it.
01:03:20
Lee Hatfield
that You go.
01:03:26
Andy - Alien8UK
So if I now make a mental note of holding it, people can get a clearer picture of what it actually is.
01:03:26
Lee Hatfield
because that's hot.
01:03:31
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. that but But if I'm right, that's that's half your bedroom, right
01:03:37
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.
01:03:39
Lee Hatfield
right? Oh,
01:03:40
Andy - Alien8UK
wet Where it is, my fellow is about that far away from the jar.
01:03:44
Lee Hatfield
o dear. You could hear things moving in the middle of the night, dude. to Just saying.
01:03:48
Andy - Alien8UK
I know. There he
01:03:50
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, mate, it's been an absolute pleasure. thoroughly enjoyed it.
01:03:54
Andy - Alien8UK
goes. Thank you.
01:03:55
Lee Hatfield
It's going to be a couple of weeks before I get this out, probably of the week after Easter, but I'll keep you posted and I'll share the link when it gets released.
01:04:04
Andy - Alien8UK
Yeah.
01:04:06
Lee Hatfield
But for now, my friend, it's getting getting close to your bedtime, so I'm going to let you go.
01:04:07
Andy - Alien8UK
Cool.
01:04:10
Andy - Alien8UK
It is.
01:04:11
Lee Hatfield
Thanks again, and no doubt we'll be talking more.
01:04:13
Andy - Alien8UK
Oh, thank you. Appreciate it. Cheers, Lee.
01:04:15
Lee Hatfield
Okay, mate, take care, bud.
01:04:17
Andy - Alien8UK
Cheers. See you later. Bye-bye.