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Introduction & Division 3 Announcement
00:00:12
Speaker
what's up everybody welcome to the logon games podcast for friday september the 22nd on this episode we are going to be talking about the division 3 getting announced
00:00:26
Speaker
today and also possibly the biggest leak of any video game thing ever. We really want to go that far.
00:00:39
Speaker
Xbox accidentally uploaded some very confidential information to the FTC as they are still doing their battle with that to get Activision Blizzard. And it includes things like new consoles and buying companies and all sorts of good stuff. So we're going to dive into that on this episode with me today.
Humor & Chicken Wing Flavors
00:01:01
Speaker
You can find it at raffle on my waffles across the seven seas. We have Carlos with us today.
00:01:08
Speaker
What up? What up? Yo, yo, yo. Happy to be here. What's going on? Man, you know. What's your favorite flavor of chicken wing? Favorite flavor of chicken wing. You know, I like some heat with my wings, so maybe something like a hot barbecue or mango habanero or even like some teriyaki. It goes really good in the wings. Teriyaki is good.
00:01:34
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. Why did you ask that? Is that a chicken and waffle joke? My public swings. I was scarfing down the wings before we started. Fair enough. Chicken and waffles thing does work too. Oh, God. Yes. So good.
00:01:51
Speaker
I have a bone to pick with my wife every time we go and get wings. She always gets the exact same thing. She just gets the mild buffalo, whatever. Just like your normal, just mild wing, which is normally just like a buffalo thing. That's how public says with their wings. Yeah, but like you can toss it and try. Just try something. Just try anything. There's like 38 wing flavors when you go to a wing place. Oh, yeah, sure.
00:02:19
Speaker
at least on like the 20th time we've gotten wings you know maybe just something maybe just get half and half or something but no same old same old i mean it could be worse i'm gonna find something i like and stick with it guy
00:02:36
Speaker
It could be like, you know, there are people that get wings and they like don't eat the inside part of the meat. They just eat like the skin and meat around it. And there's like whole wings are left. You know, I mean, no offense to those people. I'm just saying like, dude, that exists. You know, no offense to those people.
00:02:54
Speaker
offense to those. It is like it's the waste of food. I hate wasting food, you know, and it is sad. But so, yeah, at least, you know, there's that, you know, you don't have to deal with food going the waste. Yeah, I normally I'll I normally shop around, especially if it's like if we find a wing place that we like, we go there multiple times like, OK, I know I like this one and I'll try a different one.
00:03:19
Speaker
I love combining flavors, just trying. Like, I like this flavor. I like this flavor. Like, what can we get when we put them together? If if we go to a wing place and they don't have a honey mustard wing, though, I just assume that's your right flag. Yeah, I'm just like, OK, for example, Buffalo Wild Wings doesn't have a honey mustard wing, which is a honey mustard. I don't go there or or a honey barbecue. Either one is acceptable. I think they have a honey. Yeah, honey barbecue is acceptable. I agree. They've got to have at least one of those.
00:03:49
Speaker
They have honey mustard dipping sauce, but they don't have a honey mustard wing. Just toss it in the sauce. Just toss it or you got it. Just do it. Make it a thing. Yeah. Also with us on this episode today, you can find it at xuser8x. We have Matthew with us on the podcast. How's
Nostalgia & Milkshake Memories
00:04:10
Speaker
it going? How's it going? Matthew, what is your favorite flavor of milkshake?
00:04:17
Speaker
I did not think that's where you're going with that. Yeah, I know. I was waiting for the win. I'm gonna answer this. This is a two-parter, okay? Because there's one that's like my favorite, and then there's one that's like my nostalgic pick, right? Fair. Fair. My favorite is Peach. I like Peaches anyways. I know y'all are both in Georgia, so I mean...
00:04:39
Speaker
Yeah. You know, the chick. It's like, you know, it is the chick. Yeah. I like peach flavored everything anyways. Right. Uh, also fun fact, Georgia peach state. It doesn't make the most peaches. South Carolina does just say, there we go. My wife has told me this and why is Georgia the piece? I don't actually know why Georgia's named the peach state because we have the biggest peach. Mm. Mm. That peach. They make more about peach emoji here. Atlanta's get all the peach emojis, you know,
00:05:09
Speaker
I do. No, but my nostalgic pick, Andrew, he'll be with me on this. When our grandma picked us up from school and we were little kids, it was always a good day when we saw grandma's car. Cause we knew we were going to checkers and we were getting banana milkshakes and it was a good day. And that was, that was, I don't know, banana milkshakes, not something I don't think I've ever had from anywhere other than checkers, but it was specifically checkers banana milkshake. Cause I, I took.
00:05:35
Speaker
Emily to get one of these banana milkshakes about six months ago. I haven't had one in quite some time. And it is literally like, it tastes exactly like a banana laffy taffy milkshake is what it tastes like. Like
00:05:51
Speaker
If you've had a little Laffy Taffy, just put that in milkshake form. It's exactly that taste. And Emily's like, eh. And I was like, no, you shut up. You shut up. The banana Laffy Taffy of all the Laffy Taffys had a very distinctive like. It's flavor, but it left something on your tongue that was like very unique to to that one flavor of Laffy Taffy. That's my favorite. It's sense memory.
00:06:16
Speaker
It's my favorite flavor, but it's also definitely the most divisive. People like love or hate it. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Did you did you get it from a checkers six months ago? Yeah, they still haven't. I thought checkers was dead and gone. No, they're still around actually. Yeah, we got in here. We on my way. Emily had a craving for a funnel cake.
00:06:42
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And I was like, I was like, I don't know where the heck I'm going to find a funnel cake at, but I'll give it a Google. And the closest I could find that was anywhere close was Checkers had funnel cake french fries.
00:06:56
Speaker
So I was like, let's go to checkers. And so that's, that was, that's the story. Hey, I remember, I would imagine not, I remember the year. I don't remember what year it was, but I remember the feeling going into the Clemson game for the first time, whatever season it was and realizing they're just not selling funnel cakes anymore. And they used to have them every game. What is, what is wrong with the world? We had funnel cakes and football every time. Now there's no funnel. Disaster disasters. That's a staple. Top spot.
00:07:26
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Well, we want to welcome everybody to the library. It always I would say 50. There's a 50 percent chance that before we get to the intro food will be talked about.
00:07:37
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I'm like, okay with that. That is my, like, gotta eat. Everyone eats.
Podcast Info & Social Media
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Everyone has everyone eats in their vicinity. Uh, we welcome everybody to the log on games podcast. This is a weekly show in which our hosts discuss a variety of gaming news topics from new games, big announcements, events, and more new episodes upload every Friday on wherever.
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No! Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, threads, whatever social media platform you want. We have a link tree in our bio and it'll point you to our YouTube channel or our Discord.
00:08:38
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anything like that. And as of I guess today, Instagram just put a new feature on which I just tried for the first time, but I'll see how it goes. We may do a log on games one. But it's like a community kind of thing. It's basically like a giant group message. And I think it's kind of like a
00:08:59
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Oh, kind of like a discord channel, I guess, where it's like been seeing that you can invite you can invite your followers to like a big kind of group message and you can like, you know, like post exclusive content or just chat amongst each other if you want to. So we may do that on Instagram, especially if, you know, get a bunch of destiny people in there, you know, that's really all that matters. Yeah, I just double check to make sure.
00:09:26
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But you go to x.com and it takes you to twitter.com. So until that changes, I'm still calling it twitter twitter twitter. I call it twitter too, but on this podcast call it x really x formally known as twitter. I guess maybe we'll say that what have y'all been playing this week? Uh, your face. Got it.
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00:10:53
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I would use it. We can do it. We can do it. We can. When we inevitably get canceled, we have to be bigger to get canceled. So when inevitably get bigger and then get canceled because of our chicken wing and milkshake. Yeah. What's going to happen is you're going to get really big and someone's going to watch like a video from a long time ago and then bring it back. And yeah.
00:11:19
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Uh, I saw on, on your Twitter account in 1987 that you were Republican. And so, uh, when that happens, we'll start a new podcast and me and Carlos will just go around Atlanta and we'll just try all the wing places. You know, that'll be what we do. Checkers milkshake. Yeah. Matthew, what have you been playing?
Gaming & Life Balance
00:11:48
Speaker
Well, it's been a few weeks. No, I have not. Um, it's been a crazy few weeks. I'm doing online school stuff. So I just finished that up literally two days ago and about a week ago, I ordered this bad boy right here. This is a mini plus and I've been all about it. I know. So that's what he is.
00:12:09
Speaker
I've been playing more than anything else, probably Breath of Fire on Game Boy Advance and not the SES version. I've been playing the OG Zelda because I've never played it enough to beat it. I played it when I was a little kid when I think you need more than a little kid ring to get around that game and beat it. And really what pushed me over the edge on it
00:12:35
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So I have about, I don't know, I took all the games off of it and then downloaded packs and stuff that there's some, there's some YouTube videos that'll kind of direct you on which way you should go to get the stuff you want to get. And so I don't know, I have for every system I have on there, I have between five and
00:12:51
Speaker
500 and 1,000 games on it, right? So I have almost 300 Game Gear games and I didn't know they made 300 Game Gear games. Nice. That's it. That's all they made. They stopped at 300. What is, uh... Now, I was just gonna say what put me over the edge was I wanted to play the Mega Man Battle Network games on, and I'm like, oh, the Switch has them. And then you get on the Switch, and it's 60 bucks for all of them. I was like, after shipping, I paid 65 bucks for this. I mean, why would I not do that?
00:13:21
Speaker
So what system can it support up to as far as like PS one, PS one, PS one and before. So, um, I would turn it on now, but the SD card is not in it because I'm moving some PS one games onto it. So, um, nice download. There's about 40 gigs of worth of games that are moving over currently. Um, but yeah, I mean, I've played like Gran Turismo works fine on it. Uh, Castlevania on PS one works good.
00:13:47
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I played some Tony Hawk too, but then I was like, man, it's way better on PS5. So I'm just staying with that. But yes, I've been actually kind of doing a lot of that. Like I said, I had a bunch of school stuff to do. So I was like listening to some school books and whatnot, just kind of playing that. So that's been really fun, but I'm, I'm excited. I haven't been gaming much in the last few weeks and I am, I'm back in this weekend, boys. Get yourself a backlog. Let's go. Carlos, what about you?
Gaming Experiences & Exploration
00:14:16
Speaker
You know our destiny weekend was destiny weekend was a lot of fun. I just I played a lot of GM's. Thank you funny guns weekend. Thank you bungee for letting that happen. I think they're trying to call it.
00:14:32
Speaker
The craft inning or something. Yeah, the crowd but people in the discord were definitely calling it like funny gun day or whatever Yeah, that was a lot of fun. You got a lot of stuff done on there and just goofed off Yeah, and and still playing Baldur's Gate still just I'm not getting to act too But it's fun. It's good. I'm having a blast and
00:15:00
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I just get, I have to look at every minute thing in the game, so it takes me a long time. And, you know, I'm trying to balance it with Starfield. So that's still a thing. I tried the ship crafting thing.
00:15:18
Speaker
where you could ship customizing. Dude, it's ridiculous. It's overwhelming. Like you really got to sit down and like, no, it's almost like playing Kerbal Space Program to a degree. You can build these things to like just have all the stuff, but you have to, there's like minimal requirements of like, you got to at least have these parts in it. So you got to kind of have to understand that. And then, you know, I got to make it look cool because, you know, my ship's got to look, I got to have some drip when I'm in space, you know.
00:15:46
Speaker
I probably have five hours in the star field at this point, but I'm gonna play it some more. Yeah. Yeah, I'm about at like five hours as well. It's just like whatever little time I've played, I've enjoyed, but then Baldur's Gate's been keeping me busy. There you go.
00:16:01
Speaker
Oh, what happens? And, um, I am, um, tired of gaming. Oh, I forgot. I have been off and on. I've been doing some, uh, uh, F1 manager too, because that's pretty cool. Big fan.
00:16:20
Speaker
Uh, myself was also into funny gun crafting weekend. Um, yeah, for those of you unaware of what we're talking about, if you're not a destiny person, you can craft weapons in destiny. And this weekend, a lot of things were bugged out to where you could basically make like a shotgun, uh, be a sniper rifle or have sniper rifle qualities or assault rifle, have sniper rifle qualities and stuff. So like, you know,
00:16:47
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You have shooting assault rifle bullets, but it's doing the damage of like a shotgun or a sniper like bullet kind of thing That's all sorts all over the place. So it was like the biggest bosses in the games. You were like one-shotting it was And so yeah doing a lot of hard content but with people that had crazy guns so it was just like blazing through and it was
00:17:13
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double drops for nightfalls that week. Yes. The perfect alignment of stars. Andrew, if you're listening, I'm sorry that you had the you had a good time in Japan, dude, but I know you would have loved this this past weekend. It would have. I also just like go ahead.
00:17:34
Speaker
I would say I also just kind of messed with my builds a little bit. Went on Destiny Armor Picker or whatever to just fix some builds. Like I had 100 resilience and 100 discipline and a lot of stuff, but only like 30 or 40.
00:17:52
Speaker
Recovery. And so I fixed that to like most of my builds have like 70 or 80 now. So it's just like just some small stuff, you know, just. Just that you're ready for the final shape when it comes. Exactly. Comes February. I also just tried a bunch of random games in the past couple of days.
Trying New Games & Impressions
00:18:11
Speaker
There's an open beta for a game called The First Descendant. We've seen it on some streams and on some showcases and stuff like that.
00:18:19
Speaker
It's almost like it's a third person looter shooter, but it's very it's very Japanese. It's kind of like. Like a Final Fantasy Destiny baby kind of thing, but I wasn't feeling it too much, to be honest with you. It was fine until you get to like the hub and I was like, oh, it turned into a very mobile gaming type stuff where there's just like a million materials. And if you want to buy a new character or new anything, it's like you need. Gotcha.
00:18:50
Speaker
50 yellow shiny things and four purple block things and all this stuff. I was like, all right, never mind. I'm done with this. Uh, but maybe it'll fix some of that debate. I don't know. I don't think it comes out officially until next year. Have you guys played ghost runner?
00:19:09
Speaker
Mm-hmm. The first one. Watch people finish it. Yeah, that one. I'm looking forward to the second one when that one comes out. That's it's really, really good. There's a demo for the second one now.
00:19:23
Speaker
Oh, yeah, it's like a beta. So I got to get in on that. And that game helped me over until Cyberpunk came out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I want to die. Liza P, too. I don't know if you're playing it at all. Oh, I keep hearing about that game. I actually don't know anything about it. So what kind of what kind of game is it? It's like a Souls type game. Yeah. Blood-borne.
00:19:46
Speaker
Um, yeah, that game game pass game pass this week with lives of P, which I have downloaded. I haven't tried party animals, which I tried for the first time last night and it's, it's a fun time group game. That was, uh, it's like gang beast, but there's more like game modes in party animals. So like, if you've played gang beast, it was like, just try and punch and knock people out and throw them off the level.
00:20:12
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Whereas this one has like, it has that, but then it also has kind of like some Mario party. Yeah. Things where it's like, I remember the bombs and put them in the thing and shoot them over or yeah. That's a fun group game. And then today pay day three came out via game pass and I downloaded it and did all of the tutorials.
Payday 3 Multiplayer Fun
00:20:36
Speaker
and then just went in and it's basically, if no one's played Payday before, it's like Left 4 Dead or Back 4 Blood, but instead of zombies, you're just robbing banks. So same kind of layout. I think there's seven or eight levels, or missions, I guess I would say. Seven or eight missions, and you can kind of just play it with your friends. And so I don't think it's gonna last too long for me,
00:21:03
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We'll probably play them all through on normal and then be like, all right, we did it kind of thing. I will say I went into the classes and there's like 20 of them. That's 80. Yeah, which is a lot. A lot. I just kept scrolling. I was like, good Lord. So there's that if you want to play a bunch of different ways. So I'm excited to get in. Are they all already?
00:21:25
Speaker
Uh, no, two of them are, and then they have this thing where like, you have to research one of them. So you like pick which one you want to research. And then as you gain XP, it like researches, I guess, and unlocks stuff that way. Um, but I haven't, I've just done the tutorials. I haven't gotten into the meat and bones of things yet, but I'm queuing it up now so we can, we can play a little bit. Oh, cute it up. Cute it up. Um, all right, let's get to some topics of the show here.
Massive Xbox Leak Discussion
00:21:54
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Let's do it.
00:21:55
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Main one. Massive Xbox League. This comes from Kotaku. This is 11 big reveals from...
00:22:02
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what happened. This week brought us wonderful treasure trove of leaks from deep inside the highest echelons of Microsoft Xbox division accidentally shared online as a result of the company's legal battle with the Federal Trade Commission over its now greenlit Activision acquisition. These confidential emails, slides, and images of potential new products from the Xbox manufacturer reveal the inner workings of Microsoft's gaming division as well as whispers of some possible new games from Bethesda.
00:22:33
Speaker
Um, there's like a hundred and something pages of this. If you care to just go ahead and start, we'll read until we're done. But this is Kotaku pretty much covered the big ones. This is 11 big ones. And I'm just going to go in order from what is on this article. The first one in the leaked emails, Phil Spencer and Microsoft personnel discussed a possible acquisition of Nintendo. Uh, that's a big one.
00:23:00
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At some point Spencer wrote, getting Nintendo would be a great, or it would be a career moment. He speculated that the Japanese games giant could become more open to acquisition offers in the future due to changing pressures on its board of directors. It's just taking a long time for Nintendo to realize that their future exists off of their own hardware. He wrote a long time smiley face. The email also reveals that Microsoft thought about purchasing valve and Warner brothers games. So I'll start with you, Matthew.
00:23:31
Speaker
20 years from now, Microsoft buys Nintendo, I guess. That's what we're supposed to get off of this. Uh, thoughts. Um, if you have any. Yeah, no, this is, it was never going to happen and it's probably never, but like it would take a seismic change and something for that to happen. Um, but of course they would like, why would they not be talking about that and wanting to do that? Right. Um,
00:24:00
Speaker
Of course, I will say majorly wrong on that their future exists off of their own system. The switch just is killing it. Right. Um, but that was my first thought about it. People, people like reacted to that. Like it was a big deal. And I was like, they have like a bajillion dollars in the bank. Of course they would want to go buy Nintendo. Why would they not? Like they would be dumb, not to at least try it.
00:24:24
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Right. So I don't know. It's never going to happen. I can see, you know, Nintendo making a partnership with them or something like that. But yeah, yeah, it's a sense. There's a lot of things in all of this that we'll read. And I think a lot of it is just typical, just like corporate business talk.
00:24:47
Speaker
And it isn't very serious or, or needs to be read into or not. But some of it is just like, okay, now I'm kind of seeing why now that Xbox is struck. Oh, I mean, they've struggled in making good games. Like in these things, like it shows how much money some of these companies made last year. And basically Xbox and Nintendo made the same amount of money, which is like 15 billion or something like that. So it's not that Xbox is failing by any means, but
00:25:16
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when PlayStation's making 25 billion and Xbox has no games. And when they do have games, you know, they're bugged out or not finished or whatever as of recent big time games they've come out with. You can kind of see as we continue on with this, what the heck's going on here. But I agree. Probably Sony has a plan to buy Nintendo and probably Nintendo has a plan to buy Xbox games and Sony, if that ever happens.
00:25:47
Speaker
I believe Sony had already tried and they turned him down. Right. And, you know, I talked to, I was talking to Ivy about it the other day and he's, he just kind of mentioned like if Nintendo turned Sony down, who is also a Japanese company, like there's something about that. Like they're probably not just going to go sell to an American company. Um, it was like just too much, too much pride there and what they built and kind of like the, their, their Japanese market is just massive. Right. So if they weren't going to sell Sony, they're not selling the Microsoft.
00:26:16
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Yeah, they got the theme parks coming out, Mario movies blasting off, having a good old time. Yeah. And the funny part about it too, is that they're making games that are like, could run on what, like three Microsoft consoles ago. Uh, not at least two Microsoft consoles ago. And they're better games than anything Microsoft's putting out first party right now. It's pretty incredible.
00:26:43
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Next one, Bethesda's roadmap was among the many recently released Xbox documents.
Game Remakes & Sequels
00:26:50
Speaker
It includes a sequel to Ghostwire Tokyo, Dishonored 3, and remasters of Fallout 3 and the Elder Scrolls Oblivion. Also, don't expect the Elder Scrolls 6 for quite a while. Carlos, how are you feeling? Do you want to remake of any of this?
00:27:08
Speaker
No, like why why why do we need constant, you know, Elder Scrolls, Skyrm came out 2011. OK, here we are like 12 years later and it's been ported pretty much everywhere it can be ported. And now we're finding out that the game is just now in early development. And, you know, it's one of those things where Bethesda will now Microsoft, but Bethesda really
00:27:38
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started getting really a bit too big, where their shift from being a softworks company to now a major publisher and now being Microsoft. It's one of those things where we see this repeated pattern of
00:27:59
Speaker
game studios getting bought out and the quality of games start going downhill. I actually had this discussion with my wife in the car, we were talking about it on the way back, just like the landscape of the gaming industry within like the last 10 years and how, especially here with what Microsoft's trying to do, they don't really have anything big. They're not Nintendo. For them to try to buy Nintendo, it's like,
00:28:27
Speaker
Nintendo has a system put in place like they they have a very distinct way of doing their consoles during their games Which is why they're still so successful and Microsoft's tactic is to Throw their money and everything so you acquire everything It's like buying all these tools that do really cool things But if you don't know how to use these tools that they're not really useful all So yeah
00:28:56
Speaker
Bethesda really doesn't have anything going for it now. Starfield, it's good. Starfield, I think, is their most purchased game right now, the 10 million purchases. Like, they brought some record. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't know why they have the need to go back and to do remasters of games. You know, that's talent that can be used for your Elder Scrolls 6. Well, there's more.
00:29:23
Speaker
Yeah, well, just to add to that, because he talked about just like throwing money at it, and it's almost like
00:29:29
Speaker
It's almost like they're throwing their parents money at it because Nintendo is video games. Everything they do is video games or video game related. If Microsoft was just video games and not Windows and PCs and all that kind of stuff, I don't know they still exist and at least not in the way that they do. They may be Sega at this point because of some of the failures recently. They're really struggling.
00:29:53
Speaker
It's almost like they're spending their parents' money, like they're spending the PC money, right? Yeah, everything that's earned from... Yeah, because they've got the store, they've got Game Pass, but if you're paying $10 a month and you've got access to all of these AAA games, even brand new release titles, how are you going to keep that afloat? What is your incentive to continue being a game company? Well, just buying game companies isn't going to help.
00:30:20
Speaker
Yeah. And there's clearly talked about before, there's clearly an issue because they're buying companies that have made good games and they have really good IPs that are already first party Microsoft IPs, the, you know, halos and fables and things of that nature, but they're not coming out with bangers. And so there's, there's clearly a flaw or a couple of flaws somewhere.
00:30:42
Speaker
Oh, especially Halo. Man, that's that was really unfortunate to have the game go into the state that it was in. And then, you know, the the TV show that's got the second. Did it. Are they actually still making a second season?
00:31:00
Speaker
I don't know. They were, and now there's like all the strikes happening. Oh, the strike is happening. So hopefully they were just realized that we shouldn't. Yeah, that was painful. Anyways, Phil Spencer stated AAA publishers were slow to react to the disruption of digital storefronts like Steam and shops built into Xbox or PlayStation.
Xbox Release Strategies & Challenges
00:31:21
Speaker
In a leaked email, Spencer wrote that third party publishers were unable to replicate the dominance they established back in the days of video game retail.
00:31:29
Speaker
After losing their advantage of highly exclusive access to consumers in brick and mortar stores, they have not found a way to effectively cross promote. They have not found a way to build publisher brands and drive consumer affinity the way Disney has in video. Some tweets for context. Xbox has an emergency meeting to figure out how to fill in the gaps in its release schedule after realizing Starfield would not make 2022, which is an interesting email when they're basically just like, what can we buy?
00:32:02
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This was for Q2. And there's these titles would include Lego Star Wars, Dying Light 2, all across PC console. Additionally, we could potentially try for Paradox City Skylines 2 closed beta release.
00:32:25
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In addition to these options, they're also aiming to launch the Riot partnership, which they did. There's another one somewhere. Phil Spencer lays out how third party publishers failed to adapt digital storefronts. One of these emails, I don't know if it's going to be in this or not, had Baldur's Gate was like five million, I think, for them to get.
00:32:52
Speaker
And I think it's I think it's further on. We'll save that for a second for another time. But either way, I just think it's fine. It's interesting. It's based on the last conversation where it's like, all right, well, again, the games that we put dates on aren't going to make it. So what can we buy?
00:33:10
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Yeah, it's interesting to hear that they says, you know, that the title is like triple a game publishers lost a manager and then there's this excuse like, why do you think these publishers have like, why? What is your opinion on why they've lost the mojo? Like, what is the problem with AAA games today?
00:33:31
Speaker
I don't know that there is. Right. Like the problem is with Microsoft AAA games or the ones that they hold, but like, um, well, if you look at some of the colossal, like failure failed launches recently, like battlefield 2042 or like cyberpunk 2077, uh, that had a lot of money backing into it. Uh, all games that have futuristic dates in the title. Yes.
00:33:58
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Yeah. Or even so recently, you know, Star Citizen, which is sitting on $600 million over the course of 12 years. They're not a AAA game studio like they are like here, but like it's I always
00:34:14
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talk about people and or talk to people and ask like and try to figure out their opinions and like what what is wrong with the state of you know the vision of AAA games where a game like Baldur's Gate comes around and still totally just steals everything like how's that you know why is it that this game can do that but people are becoming a little bit less trustworthy of like upcoming new AAA games. Yeah.
00:34:43
Speaker
Um, it's interesting. I mean, you're always going to have hits and misses, right? So, and what he was talking about was their failure to adapt to digital storefronts or whatever, um, which is just further like proof and evidence that like.
00:35:02
Speaker
And their list of priorities is game pass like one and then everything else starts at like five, right? Like they don't care about anything anywhere near as much as they care about game pass and they think that's the future. And you know what? Sure. Maybe it will be. I personally don't think so. Like it's fine. I think it's a good idea. Um, I think if they didn't try the game pass thing that.
00:35:24
Speaker
they would have long been just like left behind. Um, it is keeping them afloat. But that being said, I don't think they're making money off of game pass based off of the amount of money they keep spending on other things and on companies and throwing games on there. And like at some point they're going to have to make that money back or something. Yeah, we'll see. Um, yeah, they're definitely still in investment mode.
00:35:52
Speaker
Because they've already done away with the $1 trials that super recently they announced they were going to stop doing that. And some of these trials, you could just keep doing them over and over and over again. So people were paying next to nothing for it. But yeah, it's either you go the route that Stadia did, you just got to shut down because it's...
00:36:13
Speaker
not making money or you got to be the evil person and start raising your rate, your rates, your monthly rates or have a tiered subscription service to try to keep yourself afloat. But yeah, I agree. It's not a long term solution for them. No, I think they're waiting to see what happens when
00:36:34
Speaker
I mean, they've been in the same boat for a long time, but what happens when their games actually start coming out day one on game pass and like it's consistent with at least, you know, eight out of 10, nine out of 10 games, but also the Activision thing going through where they can put Call of Duty on game pass day one, like the world of Warcraft is going to be interesting. What is five years of Call of Duty being on game pass day one do? And that's what I think they're going to figure out because that could change everything.
00:37:07
Speaker
And then what is PlayStation's response to that is one of these 10 games of service or whatever they have coming out a competitor that's decent that people would like, okay, like this is good enough. I'll stick with this. Yeah. The one thing about Sony is like, I feel like they've always been pretty safe because they're exclusives. I think they have a similar adoption model that like.
00:37:28
Speaker
Nintendo has where they're very, I wouldn't say they're super controlling, but they do make sure the quality of their games are putting out are good. And so for a lot of these games that have been longtime Sony, you know, IPs, they're continuing to come out all the time. And with something and what it is, it's usually pretty good, you know, like, but what is and what is Microsoft? They have Halo, you know, and, you know, that's really the only like original thing.
00:37:57
Speaker
And that was, I think that could have been their big like, kick, like come back through the door type of thing. Had that been like a colossal success. Sure. But yeah, I mean, it's the drum that I've kept beating for years and years and years. And it's Nintendo is the best proof of it. And that is
00:38:18
Speaker
Simply, if your games are fun, people are going to buy your stuff, right? I mean, it's that simple. Their games are not all that beautiful or anything compared to any other games on the market. But right now, when PlayStation hosts a state of play and announces some new games,
00:38:34
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I go, Oh, that looks awesome. When Microsoft announces a new game, I go, Hmm, that looks cool. I wonder if they actually can make it that good. Cause they haven't like, I just, it's so pessimistic of a view and they earn that. Right. And Sony's earned the other way. We're like, you know what? If not a dog, his name is on it. I'm just assuming it's a 10. Right. Yeah. So. Yeah.
00:38:56
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Microsoft had Microsoft seem to believe that an Xbox Series X and S port of Red Dead Redemption 2 would be out in 2022 and obviously that did not happen.
00:39:11
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But, I mean, there's that. There may be a Red Dead 2 next-gen update at some point. If you are waiting for that, it's possible. The Xbox Series X and S consoles hit the market in 2020. Since then, the lower-powered discless Series S actually makes up the majority of units sold.
00:39:32
Speaker
As of April 2022, 74.8% of Xbox Series owners were gaming on the Series S, suggesting just a quarter of the base left with the more powerful Series X unit. Again, more recent data suggests that the install base is split, approaching 50-50 today. But you've got to wonder how much massive Series S install base is causing headaches for developers trying to bring high-end games to the Xbox ecosystem.
00:40:02
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And that leads in to the next one because the reason that Baldur's Gate 3 is and probably never will be on Xbox is because Xbox said it needs to be compatible with Series S and they were like, nope.
Xbox Series S Limitations
00:40:18
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That being said,
00:40:23
Speaker
Or go ahead. I mean, like, I don't know. I, we've talked about it before. I, I get why the S exists in terms of we want a lower price point to get people in. Right. But.
00:40:38
Speaker
It's just not necessary. If their games were good enough, they wouldn't need a lower price point to get people to just make it the same price as PlayStation and people would buy them the same, right? I don't know. I've never been a fan of that, especially day one. Like PlayStation obviously had the two price points, but the inside was the same. It's just whether you want to get a disc drive or not, right? Or, you know, you've had other consoles do that where bigger hard drive or something like that's fine, but it's the same system in terms of making games for it.
00:41:07
Speaker
I don't know. Not only that, but like with PlayStation, which is crazy, is not only did their consoles sell out like crazy where there's a hardware shortage to the point where people were scalping these things and causing this inventory issue. The price, you know, people were paying $700 for a PS5. They were wanting it that bad.
00:41:32
Speaker
And now, you know, the price has gone back to normal. People are still, PS5s are flying off the shelf. I know maybe two or three people that have like an Xbox console.
00:41:44
Speaker
You're okay. If we four, I sold it. I bought one because PC parts were through the roof and I got lucky enough to get a, um, okay. It was pretty cool. You probably haven't heard the story. Other people have. I got the, the halo, uh, addition of the halo five one. Yeah. I get the, yeah. I made that sound when you like turned it on. I had one of those. Yeah. Paid five 50 for it.
00:42:11
Speaker
And then, uh, sold it in December, November or December this past year, when the PC parts came down, sold it for 750. Wow. Okay. It was a limited edition and that kind of deal. So I got kind of lucky on that deal. Um,
00:42:29
Speaker
Um, I forgot what I was going to say, but it happens. Um, Baldur's Gate three. Here we go. Baldur's Gate three is a super good time. Says Kotaku. Microsoft didn't seem to think the D and D RPG would amount to much in leaked comments. Microsoft estimated a $5 million expense to get the game on game pass, justifying the low monetary amount, uh, by describing Baldur's Gate three as a second run Stadia PC RPG.
00:42:59
Speaker
Now, uh, I will give them a benefit of doubt that this email, I think was in 2022 at some convention. So the game was not finished. Whatever version him, Phil Spencer, whoever else played was probably not up to snuff. But again, they're, they know that already. Like they know when they go into these demos. Sure. Quite there. Yeah. Whatever.
00:43:22
Speaker
Reacting to this statement, Laryon's director in publishing noted that Microsoft was far from alone in understanding that Baldur's Gate 3. He says in their defense, so did everyone else. He said it comes with the genre, the way we approach things and the way we execute things. There just isn't any existing data that could have told anyone Baldur's Gate 3 was going to perform. We just had to take giant spooky leaps.
00:43:50
Speaker
Yeah, which is that's fair. I mean, I this wasn't I really think this game was on many people's radar at all. I heard of Baldur's Gate 3. I knew it was going to be D&D related. I'm like, cool. I knew it was early access for a while. So I know they've been working on it. And I I didn't get it to play the early access because I was like, I'll wait for the full thing to come out. And then, you know, it releases and it's just this like fire of just like
00:44:16
Speaker
Good reviews and everyone's raving about it. And yeah, I don't think anybody was expecting it to be as successful. So I don't blame them. There's always games that kind of do what it did. Um, kind of like animal crossing when it came out, hit the right time. And once, like, once you have that wave of.
00:44:33
Speaker
like viralness that comes to the game. Like it just, you know, it takes, I know and you can't really predict that. Uh, I've, I've not played it, but I have now, I got, I was not interested in the game until about two weeks after it came out. And then I just heard enough. I was like, okay, well, it still doesn't look like.
00:44:51
Speaker
I would enjoy it even though I like D&D. I'm a big fan of board games and you know, you get to roll for everything. I don't know. So I've watched YouTube videos like playthroughs of people playing quite a few hours now. Personally, I don't think it looks great to me. I think it's fine. I don't think it looks like a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. I think it just has that wave of viralness that comes along with like sometimes like there's just a game that's the game to be playing on Twitch or whatever. And it comes along like still a good game.
00:45:21
Speaker
But I don't think anybody expected the kind of wave that it's written.
00:45:26
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It's because it is a niche genre, you know, like that style of RPG is not something you really see around anymore. You know, like, of course, like, oh, D&D nerds played or something like that. But it is very interesting being a D&D player because like I took my character sheet and I'm playing my D&D characters in Baldur's Gate, how I would want to play them.
00:45:53
Speaker
And I think it's really cool for people who are not familiar with D&D to kind of get into it because there's a lot of things that gets a good gateway explains the dice rolling explains the classes like spell slots and
00:46:08
Speaker
you know, saving throws and all of this other stuff. So I think it did a really good job. And D&D has kind of been on the rise again for like the last seven or eight years. Really has. So it's a game that came out at the right time and brought something a little bit refreshing. Like I've played Divinity 2 and it's great. I really like it. There's a jumping spider in my terrarium. What are you doing, man?
00:46:38
Speaker
And it's similar to Divinity, but it's it's definitely it always surprises me. Like once you do play the game, they're just there's it's the things they think about. Like they really do take an account for just about every type of situation that can happen. I don't it's mind boggling.
00:46:57
Speaker
Yeah, I still think I'm going to play at some point here in the future. Um, but it's, it's interesting. I think that the more accessible D and D has become, it's, it's only, it only helped in this, you know, it's kind of like, uh, this video game is like going more towards D and D and then in the more recent years, D and D has kind of become more accessible this way, like better rule sets and some things that make it a little bit less, uh,
00:47:21
Speaker
Like keep your head in the book the whole time. And, um, you have things like, yeah, and you have things like stranger things that, you know, stranger things was that like, so there's just things in the culture that have kind of brought it. And so I think Baldur's gate was just right place, right time. And let's merge these two things. Yeah.
00:47:39
Speaker
I feel like with Game Pass, Game Pass has gotten some really, really great games. And they've bought games like crazy and just slap them on Game Pass just so they can have day one. To not give $5 million to get this game on Game Pass day one seems silly because that's probably just absolute pennies compared. That's probably like an indie game.
00:48:04
Speaker
Yeah, it's really not that much money for them. Five million is just kind of a drop in the bucket. Like I feel that's like a very low risk, very high reward that they could have done. It's like, OK, we pay five million dollars and it craps to bed. Then it's whatever. But on the chance that it's gigantic, like we have it. Like if when this thing exploded, it feels like game pass day one, like. It would have been absolutely giant for Xbox.
00:48:33
Speaker
Yeah, if it was on game pass day one, I would have played it by now. Yeah, we would be. I mean, we'd be in act two. How much? How much is the Activision Blizzard acquisition? Like 70 billion or something ridiculous. Wait, what? Yeah. Yeah. Six. I think it's like 67 billion or something like that. I can't remember. It's something like that. And it couldn't spare five mil on bulge. Yeah. When you put it like that, that's fair.
00:49:01
Speaker
There's more in an email to Microsoft CEO Sadia Nadella. That's what I'll say. Phil Spencer described the Xbox Series X slash S line as a better product than what Sony has, not just on hardware, but equally important on the software platform and services.
Xbox Strategy Critique
00:49:22
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He continued, we have the ingredients of a winning plan. Today was a good day for us. That was failure of thought.
00:49:31
Speaker
That's why I'm saying like, I love Phil Spencer, what he said, game pass and stuff like that. And we talked about this, I think last year during or maybe it was like during the Redfall times this year. I'm just like, you had when he sent this email, like you were playing Halo. Like, that was pretty much all you had at that time. I mean, you put his face on the box, like you knew on the software side, what you had was
00:50:01
Speaker
utter garbage, especially compared to just PS five's launch titles. And then Halo ended up getting delayed another year anyway. So like, some things that he like when he says stuff like this, and it's like, I understand like you are the head of Xbox. And when you're sending emails to your team, you got to be like, we're in a good spot. Everybody's on the same team. We're all working together. We're all going to do it. We're going to win. But at the same time, this is
00:50:30
Speaker
I mean, what this is doing, it's kind of like it's kind of creating. It's highlighting a timeline for us of the decline of Microsoft and the gaming sector. I mean, yeah, you emailed the CEO and said, oh, my God, we're going to win this for sure. And then it's been three years and you're not winning. Yeah. Are you a winning son? Maybe send that to someone that's not the CEO.
00:50:56
Speaker
But he said that this was the PS5 reveal, right? So this is not like them getting information. I mean, that's what it says. It says, you know, the thing says he wasn't impressed by the PS5 reveal, right? And so.
00:51:14
Speaker
We watched the PS five or like both of the state of plays that they showed with the PS five, like there were two of the greatest, like two of the greatest like pieces of, if you're a video gamer, it was like the, it was like your favorite Christmas you've ever had. Right. It was like, Oh my goodness. Game after game after game. And he's sitting over there going, nah, we got this. I'm thinking in my head with what game.
00:51:40
Speaker
The thing is, it's funny because I see it a lot on social media lately.
00:51:49
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you know, 20 years ago, you know, or 23 in the year 2000, when the PlayStation 2 launched, how big of a deal it was. Like people, you know, it was probably one of the biggest console launches in history. Like it was Y2K. It was just like new millennial works, big defining moment technology and
00:52:13
Speaker
We look at the PS1 and the PS2 graphics by comparison for his time was like this big leap. It's like we're in the future. And Sony has always had a really good tactic for when they do their console unveiling. They are always hype. PS3, PS4, PS5, I think is just another one is like very big hype reveal moments where people were very excited for what they had to offer with their games.
00:52:41
Speaker
You know, how often did we really get excited for, you know, like Sony or a Microsoft console? Like I wanted to be super excited for like, you know, the what are the now the series X that the. And it's just like, I don't know. You know, Sony's kind of had them beat already. That's what I'm saying. Like at this time, he it was Xbox did their I don't remember if they did their
00:53:11
Speaker
reveal event first. I think they did their reveal event first. Yeah.
00:53:17
Speaker
Or at least they reveal the price and stuff first. At that time, Halo was a launch game. They're like, yeah, Halo, the Infinite's a launch game and all that kind of stuff. And so, like I'm saying, he played that. He knew that was not going to be a launch game. And if it was, it would have been an even bigger disaster. It'd been like a Redfall issue if that came out at launch. So anyways, I'm going to skip some of these. I'm going to skip some of these and get to some of the bigger ones here.
New Xbox Hardware Leak
00:53:44
Speaker
We didn't just get scans of emails from very serious people. We also got some images and details of possible forthcoming hardware, including a cylindrical shaped Xbox Series S that won't include a disk drive, code name Brooklyn. The leak data indicates that the possible hardware refresh will include more internal storage, faster Wi-Fi, reduced power, and more immersive controller. Basically,
00:54:13
Speaker
Basically, it is the Series X, just a discless one. And then it says on this email graphic that it will be $4.99, which you would assume means that the disc version would be cheaper if you were going to do a digital refresh, you know? But really, isn't it more like a Series S if it says reduced power?
00:54:39
Speaker
It is. I think it means like energy saving kind of reduced power. It uses less power. Yeah. It's funny that they're going with like, you know, the Series X had this, you know, rectangular shape. They got now the cylindrical shape. It's like it's like kindergarten shapes like they're going to do a pyramid one next and that'd be great. Put them in the right, you know, you know, the little game where you put the bricks in the holes, whatever. It's like that's what they're making little toys. Yeah.
00:55:08
Speaker
I mean, this isn't shocking really at all. I mean There's always like a slim version or whatever. Yeah Sure, the more immersive controller things weird to me
00:55:19
Speaker
Here it is, the Xbox get a fancy new controller. The potential 2024 hardware refresh might also see Xbox gamepad, a new Xbox gamepad hit the market. The image of the controller, codename Seabile, shows a two-tone color design and promises modular thumbsticks and features that many PlayStation fans have known for years. Lift to wake precision haptic feedback in an Excel orometer.
00:55:44
Speaker
I don't like the look of this controller. Why did they do the tone like that? It's like it's wearing pants. It's like that drawing is like, how would a horse wear pants like this, like this, this is one of those versions. They should know people hate to wear pants.
00:56:01
Speaker
I assume that this probably was in the works specifically because of the dual sense. Oh, yeah. I mean, God, let's just get let's just get the triggers in and stuff like that. So everything, at least our controllers on like a level playing field or whatever.
00:56:16
Speaker
Yeah, but that's another one of those things where it's like they're late to the game already. They're playing catch up with Sony, really doesn't have to do anything to like, here's some new covers for your case covers for your PS5. We have these different versions, but like, they really don't have to change the formula. Here's Microsoft now like playing the same game they played with the last console. Like you were saying that like this, maybe, you know, is this like a series S version of their X series? There's too many letters now.
00:56:46
Speaker
Yeah, somewhere 100 percent. I know right. Couple of things. I was going to say the only I was going to say the only thing that PlayStation Sony is behind on is the controller battery. They need to wake up and get that fixed. So that that being said, the this controllers is to have rechargeable, swappable batteries. That's big. Swappable. Which is nice. And then also for the digital series X,
00:57:15
Speaker
Um, there is an email, I don't know if it's on this or not, but it has the initials for the, uh, design lab. That is, uh, assuming that that's true or whatever, I don't know, but this could possibly be a design lab thing where you can kind of make your own color schemes and stuff like that and kind of get a custom version of one, which would be, that would be more expensive, I'm sure. But, um,
00:57:42
Speaker
And it's also up to two or also a two terabyte thing. So they I guess they don't leak a price on here. I'm curious because it's four and a one. Yes, it's for the controller. Oh, for the. Yes, for the controller.
00:57:57
Speaker
Because I have an Xbox One controller I've been using for years. I personally haven't had any issues, but I've got people that I know who have gone through five, six, seven Xbox controllers. I've had people that gone through several of the Xbox Elite controllers where they just suddenly stop working. Yeah, the Elite controllers, that's what I'm using now. This is like the third one I've been on. It's crazy.
00:58:24
Speaker
That's what I have too, but I only have one. Yeah, I've been using my controller for like, I don't know, like seven, six years and it's been working fine. The regular Xbox controllers I've used have been fine. I just wanted an Elite controller and then so many issues with it. This one as of now, no issues. Hopefully it stays that way, but yeah. I think for me, like Microsoft's done a good job of making their controller last for a long time with me by not coming out with great games.
00:58:56
Speaker
Last part of this, Microsoft sees its next Xbox as a cloud hybrid machine.
Future of Xbox & Cloud Gaming
00:59:03
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Slides projecting the future of the Xbox platform indicate that Microsoft is very much looking to the cloud to help power its post Xbox XS consoles.
00:59:15
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for which it's looking at a 2028 release. Microsoft describes machine as a next generation hybrid game platform capable of leveraging the combined power of the client and the cloud to deliver deeper immersion and entirely new classes of game experience. So I don't think it's in this Kotaku email, but there's another one that has images and stuff like that projecting what they're going to do in the future. And it's a lot of what we've talked about on this podcast before of like
00:59:45
Speaker
Let's first of all, this hybrid console in general, and basically it just sounds like a switch to me, you know, they have in the emails, they have a handheld as well. Oh, interesting. And they also had a little box, which has been rumored for a long time. And we've talked about on here, like a fire stick or like an Apple TV box or whatever, that's ninety nine bucks that you can plug in and it has game pass on it and it's all cloud and all that kind of stuff. So I assume that's definitely one of the things they're talking about.
01:00:13
Speaker
The handheld could definitely be anything from like a steam deck to what PlayStation just did, which is just like a cloud or I don't think it's just just a remote plaything like PlayStation. Oh, it could be a game pass cloud machine.
01:00:31
Speaker
But I would hope that it's close to a Steam deck where you could at least have a couple games downloaded on it, which would be nice. And then the hybrid machine in general, I think it's just going to be your normal console with cloud technology built into it somehow.
01:00:47
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Yeah. You play game on the switch on cloud now. So like there's plenty of games that way. And we've talked about it. I don't think cloud gaming is viable, but it says 2028 and it may be then. I don't know. Um, so that's pretty far down the road. Yeah. I mean, it's another five years. So I made it five years, a lot for cloud technology to go. Yeah.
01:01:13
Speaker
Five years from now, if they have a handheld cloud machine, like as definitely as a viable thing. Right now on the phone, certain games are like, you're not going to, no one's going to be playing a competitive match of any multiplayer game on their phone or a handheld device or in the cloud in general. No one's going to be playing a Call of Duty match in the cloud and being like, I'm okay to lose because you're going to lose.
01:01:35
Speaker
Yeah, that's the thing too. Not only that, but for like, and this is an issue that because it's cloud, and it becomes more to push in that direction, the internet infrastructure has to be there, right? So if the people who don't have good internet, or can't afford good internet, or it's not available to them where they are,
01:01:57
Speaker
The cloud is, it's not a viable option for them. You're going to have an issue, A, getting a decent stream quality on because it's got a buffer. It's a UDP connection, so it's streaming straight to you. Well, actually, it probably isn't because if you play multiplayer, you got to send a signal back, but that's network related.
01:02:20
Speaker
But yeah, so your picture has to look good and then yeah, you have to deal with latency. So I don't know. I know that that's what they've been wanting to do for years is be more less like physical disk, less using it on your console and using it in the cloud.
01:02:38
Speaker
I assume like they would have another console and then like their Series S would just be like their little Apple TV box that's 80 bucks or whatever. Right. Go for it. Just it feels like Microsoft like
01:02:53
Speaker
They're just trying everything new to try to do the next big thing in video games or as a PlayStation. I mean, can you believe Microsoft is trying more new things than Nintendo is, which is bonkers, the people that came out with Wii remotes and things. But it feels like at least like PlayStation and Nintendo know, okay, this is home. We're gonna make sure this is amazing. And then we're gonna try some stuff. And it's like Microsoft doesn't know where home is.
01:03:22
Speaker
Right. And they're just trying to just throw in stuff at the wall to see what sticks. So like the cloud thing, not a bad idea.
01:03:33
Speaker
That being said, if you had an Xbox. 720 or whatever that, I don't know, whatever they call it series Z Y X coming out next. And it's, you know, it just is what it is. It's an awesome home console and they put out some good games on it. And then also let's try this cloud stick thing two years into the cycle and try to go that route or whatever. Yeah. Try it. Go for it. Try to.
01:03:57
Speaker
a connect, but you put on all the walls of your room and it's just 3d connect. I agree. Find your home, find what works, take that, make it good. And then branch out, you know, they're just swallowing everything up and they're looking at this pile of stuff and they're just like, now what?
01:04:15
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Yeah. Do they like us yet? We've got all their games. Notably, there wasn't really any first party game leaks in this, which I guess is nice for them or it could be terrible. It could be bad. But yeah, it's a big one. There's a whole lot more stuff if you are listening and you want to get more interested in what's going on. Everything's public. You can go look at it. A lot more articles that dive into more stuff.
01:04:43
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do that, but the last story of the day that we'll blow through real quick, because it was just an announcement today, and this was via
Ubisoft's Division 3 Continuation
01:04:54
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Ubisoft. I haven't even seen this yet. Yeah, this announcement represents Ubisoft's dedication to the longevity of the brand, and this is what he's talking about, the Division 3 being announced today, just via a blog post, basically.
01:05:09
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Um, Ubisoft said in a note press and his new role Julian will drive the many interdependent production elements of the division brand in a unified direction. This includes development oversight operations, the creative vision together with the new development teams around the world. We're currently developing the mobile game. Tom Clancy's the division resurgence. Tom Clancy's the division heartland and Tom Clancy's the division two.
01:05:39
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So I guess they have like a new head of the studio, which makes sense because for the longest time, we were left to believe that the division heartland was like the new just division game. That's going to be the hub for everything years to come. And then they were still doing like division two updates. And now we have an official announcement for the division three. So there's that, Carlos, you ever get into the division at all?
01:06:06
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Um, I played the beta when it came out and I played a little, I don't think I ever owned it. I think I played it from somewhere else on someone's machine, but I didn't quite get it. So my thing is I love.
01:06:23
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post-apocalyptic stuff. I love the survival aspect of it and I really thought it was going to be like your boom somewhere in New York and there is some sort of story but you're actually like trying to survive and like it's more survival game than like a shooter RPG type game. So when I played it like I don't know it didn't quite give me that like
01:06:49
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hopelessness that post-apocalyptic games make you play like when you're surviving and something like that. I didn't quite get that feel from it. It was just me shooting bullet sponge type. Yeah, I mean, it's it was based. It's basically. Destiny, but Tom Clancy, if I would not as much content.
01:07:05
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Yeah. And at that time, also, I wasn't a big fan. Like, Destiny is that type of game. And I didn't even like Destiny at the time. So, you know, I don't know. Maybe if I gave it another try, if I love Destiny already, maybe this formula might work. I don't know.
01:07:21
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The second one's better. The second one is better. It's just kind of a lot more content, a lot more polish, fix some quality of life things. How's the store? Is there like a good plot to it and everything? I mean, no. Similar to Destiny, I guess if you want to read every collectible that you find, then you can get a story in there. But for the most part, it's like,
01:07:49
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There's bad people all over the town killing them. Yeah. It's again, another one of those games that is just a blast with other people. And it's only fine. It's okay by yourself, but people to play with. It's fun. Yeah. You be, I'm telling you, man, PlayStation is doing all these games, service games. They just need to buy them. That would be.
01:08:14
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Like I'm surprised that hasn't happened. I always associated this two together for some reason. I just, you take something like the division and you throw bungee in there and help them make, I'm just telling you, man, it was, it's, it's there to be had. And then there's games like rainbow six and some other stuff that's some really cool story modes and co-op story modes back in the day that I think, I mean, PlayStation knows how to do a story mode.
01:08:39
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And that's the thing. I love Tom Clancy games. I played Tom Clancy since like the original like Rainbow Six on like early PC days. And like their games are just really I mean, they're they're good. I love them. So it was different. The division was definitely different from what I was expecting from a Tom Clancy game. But yeah, I don't know. You know, I'm definitely open to seeing what happens with that game, how it's different from what I originally played. And maybe it'll be worth giving it a try.
01:09:09
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Yeah, I'm excited that there's a three coming because I did like one and two Two was way better when they showed up heartland for the first time. It's like the free-to-play version I was like, oh, this isn't necessarily what I wanted So the fact they're doing a three is nice, but yeah any final thoughts for me in this podcast Hmm
01:09:33
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I don't think anything usually. No. Nope, nothing. Thank you, Bungie, for your bug, your glitch. You brought a lot of people back to your game for a weekend. Yeah, it was wild. And then you've broken the game possibly more trying to fix it then.
01:09:52
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Yes, a lot of server it was like it was like two three days of like a lot of fun with just crazy weapons all over the place and just doing stuff to get things done that you Wanted to do for a long time, but it was too hard To you can't sign into the game to you can try and play something but you will get booted to the title screen typical bungee and
01:10:16
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