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Introduction and Topics Overview
00:00:13
Speaker
What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Log on Games Podcast for Friday, February the 23rd. On this episode, we're going to be talking about Mark Zuckerberg. How do I whom on? Hello.
00:00:27
Speaker
No, that's actually not at all what we're going to be talking about. Thank God. We're talking about what we're playing.
Nintendo Direct Highlights
00:00:33
Speaker
We've had some things happen this week. We had a Nintendo Direct that kind of confirmed some of the Xbox games that are coming everywhere. Helldivers is popping off.
00:00:46
Speaker
Ooh, nice. That was, okay, listen. Andrew's face. I felt that burp since we started, since I hit record. And I was like, do I mute my mic and do it? I was like, no, I tried to hold it. I'm drinking a polar water, seltzer water. Mm. Yeah. Crispy. And let me tell you, they give you the burps now. I love some crunchy water, man.
00:01:14
Speaker
You know what's funny? This is so random because you're talking about burping. For some reason, the one drink that makes my wife burp is Dr. Pepper. Of all drinks, it's Dr. Pepper. Hold on. She drank sparkling water. Oh, she will. There's something potent about Dr. Pepper. It's one of those 23 ingredients. Oh, yeah. One of those 23 ingredients. God.
00:01:38
Speaker
One of those ingredients doesn't sit well with her. I can eat a jolly rancher and burp. So I mean, it's whatever. Yeah. You burp just breathing air. You just exist there. Your esophagus doesn't close properly or something. I don't know. Open your mouth and stick the camera as far down as you can go so we can look. Yeah. Let's have that doctor's view. Oh yeah. That'd be a, that'd be a pleasing. Then we can see it. You do like a little Ramos to see how you scream.
00:02:05
Speaker
Exactly. We're like, yeah, we just took a Logitech camera down his throat to see what it looked like. I forgot what I was talking about, but with us on this podcast today. He's never ready. Ow. I got a new desk, OK? So all the things are all over the place. You need to have a house, new desk, a dong holder.
00:02:34
Speaker
I mean, technically I have one now. It was just on the floor, but you can find a Matt Brown berserker over there on the Twitters. Maybe a manager with us on the podcast today. Skeet skeet on the feet.
00:02:54
Speaker
Oh, I like the I like in music in general. I like when bands like they catch the symbol. They mute it. I love the crowd. It's like I'm not like I'm not just talking about like, you know.
00:03:06
Speaker
No, I'm talking about when they're like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I want to get a little splash symbol because I was I went to issues concert that was here a couple of weeks ago. So the farewell. Yeah. Yeah. And let me tell you, it's one of the best rumors ever. But he'll do the he'll do the muting of the symbol. But he does it a lot on a little splash symbol. So it's just like a little like, what was that? Didn't hear what I heard. And that made me want to do it. So no.
00:03:37
Speaker
Oh your ears is kind of like a dog. You're just like yeah, like somebody just just like spanked a fairy or something What like a little fairy, you know, it's coming just a little spank and it makes a little You're looking around like me just do what I think he did in front of everybody he spanked that fairy, dude I don't know now
00:04:07
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I can't stop thinking about that now.
Final Fantasy 7 Excitement
00:04:10
Speaker
Oh my god. Great. I'm on the Final Fantasy 7 train hardcore. Nice. Chugga chugga. Going through remake again. Super super hype for the new one. This will be my... When that game comes out I decided this is the game where I'm gonna do all the side quests. I'm gonna live in that world man. I'm gonna live in that world.
00:04:32
Speaker
Is it on PC coming out on PC as well? Assuming it's getting delayed, if so, there's been no PC announcements. But since remake came to Steam, I'm sure a year or two will we'll see it. So are you planning on playing rebirth like immediately? Immediately on the train. I'm on that train, boy. Let's go check. So here's the thing. I've been wanting to buy remake on PC, but I'm a cheapskate. And I'm like, why would I pay?
00:05:02
Speaker
60, 70 bucks again when I can just play it on my PS5. I already have it. So I was like, I'll be the guy and I'll be like, I'm going to save that 70 for rebirth and I'll just play it again. I'm the same way. There you go. Me and a friend have been wanting to play Dead Island 2 since it came out. We're like, listen, we're going to play this game for like 10 hours and never touch it again.
00:05:23
Speaker
to seven to $70 game we don't want those wait till it goes like under 30 we've been waiting and they'll put like the deluxe edition that's like $100 and they'll put it on sale for that down to like 70 we're like what the heck for the record you're talking about waiting for things to drop
00:05:38
Speaker
When is Baldur's Gate gonna drop? I've been- I've been- Never. I've been waiting for like six months for that thing to drop. It has not dropped in price. It's not gonna do it. I've seen it drop 10%. That's it. Let me tell you this. It's about what you're gonna get for a while, dude. The game came out like- Last summer! Yesterday. Was it last summer? Yeah, yesterday. It was yesterday, dude. No, was it the summer? Summer Game Fest sale, dude. Summer Game Fest sale. When did it come out? Was it summer?
00:06:03
Speaker
There ain't no way I spent like fricking eight months playing that game. I don't want, I don't think I bought it. I don't think I bought it at launch though. August 3rd. Okay.
00:06:13
Speaker
Okay, no discounts from August 3rd to now? No, maybe at exactly a year. Not even $39.99? No, no. Absolutely, no. Okay, then Island 2 isn't passing $42. Baldur's Gate is not ever going to pass. Baldur's Gate is getting that Nintendo treatment, man. They know it's gold and they're not dropping that crap.
00:06:34
Speaker
No, I'd understand if a game was out for like two, three years and like hardly had a price drop, but it hasn't even been a year. Like 10 percent is I think it came out in August. I would have expected it to have some type of sale on Black Friday on Black Friday on Black Friday. No, no, you didn't gone too far, bro. There's games that have come out in October and had a Black Friday. Yeah, because they suck. That's fair. I would I would bet that it drops to like
00:07:04
Speaker
we get like a $52 sale or something in the next couple months. But I think that's as cheap as it's gonna be. So my friend and I with Dead Island 2 were like, when it goes $35, $30 and below, we'll buy it, play it. Great. Never went past like $45, $42 or something. And then last night at midnight, Andrew, let me tell you. You're talking about Dead Island 2, right? Yeah, I get on Twitter and I see Dead Island 2 just showed up on Xbox Game Pass and I went, hot dog! It made me so happy.
00:07:34
Speaker
So now I feel like, and then I was like, oh, my game pass ran out. Dang it. So I do have to pay, but I just went on CD keys and got a month of game pass for like $3 popping right in. There you go. Also with us today, spanking fairies. Uh, you can find them at ruffle on my waffles at the ferry pound. We have Carlos with us today.
00:08:16
Speaker
If you haven't been able to tell listeners we don't have a lot to talk about on this episode Carlos what's happening?
00:08:23
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Nothing much, man. I'm still playing through cyberpunk. I'm still the only person playing Destiny. Me and a friend played Destiny for about two hours the other day.
00:08:40
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I probably get on like two or three times a week. I'm going to jump on to Destiny. Started another Baldur's Gate playthrough again. And you know, man, the Helldivers, they've just, you know, it's been calling to me and it's been hard to resist that call.
00:09:00
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Philly, man, that could be happening soon. Other than that, I really am trying to like, I need to just go. I still got backlog of games. You know, I don't want to detract from that. I at least want to beat like three or four games on my backlogs this year. I'll be happy with that. I'm in a similar boat. I'm I'm I'm still trying to beat Final Fantasy 16 and persona three reload or remake reload. Oh, you started it.
00:09:27
Speaker
I played the, I watched the opening scene about that. You didn't even get to gameplay and you stopped playing.
00:09:35
Speaker
I listen, I downloaded it because it's on game pass. Yeah. And I was like, I can't. I want to start it, but I can't. I got to be a Final Fantasy 16. I don't want to go down this road. So you just blew ball at yourself. Like the intro. Yes. I had to at least look at it. You know, I had to just feel like I was part of a little tease for a little bit. But I'm in the same boat. Like I want to play hell divers really bad. Yeah. Really bad. Is it cross play through everything? Because if so.
00:10:02
Speaker
That's a good question. I don't know. Just because given all the server issues, I have no idea what the crossplay is like. That's been the one like silver lining. I've been like, well, when I do play it, the server should be fixed. Yeah. And you know, the cool thing about that is like the the game director, whoever, like someone high up in the in the chain was like, hey.
00:10:23
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don't buy the game until we fix the server issues. Like we're not worried. We're not hurting for money. Like we need to get this taken care of. That is such a statement. And I'm like, okay. Okay. That's cool. According to e-sports illustrated, there's currently cross play between PC and PlayStation five. Boom. There we go. Hey man, let's jump in. Let's go zap some. I'll buy it tonight. Don't even try me.
00:10:53
Speaker
Listen, if it's a multiplayer game, it doesn't count. I only count my back catalog at single player games. You know, that's fair. You know, I'm the same way. You know, it's funny. Like I won't touch multiplayer games because like, like all my friends will get hype on it and they'll play it for like two weeks and then they won't play it again. But hell divers is only $40. So it's like only $40, only 40 bucks.
00:11:15
Speaker
Well, I'm about to drop 70 next week, so. You should drop 40 tonight with me and Carlos. It's about to happen. All right. Well, we want to welcome everybody to the Logon Games Podcast. This is a weekly show in which our hosts discuss a variety of gaming news topics for new games, big announcements, events.
00:11:37
Speaker
And more. Pax is coming up. Matthew will be at Pax. So maybe he'll play something early. Maybe he'll get something. I don't know. We'll talk about it if so. New episodes upload every Friday. Wherever you stream your podcast at or you can watch us at youtube.com slash at log on games. If you're listening, go over to our YouTube channel.
00:11:58
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Hit subscribe for us. Look at our pretty faces. I'll give you a little fairy spank if you do that. Ooh, it's tempting. I'm gonna unsubscribe just so I can resubscribe. Good.
Helldivers 2 Success and Challenges
00:12:12
Speaker
You can follow us at Logon Games everywhere else and stuff like that, but let's continue. Let's just continue with the Helldivers speak here because there is an article from GameRant.com and it says,
00:12:27
Speaker
even with ongoing login server capacity issues. Helldivers 2 continues to grow, this time passing a new concurrent player total and overtaking the immensely popular shooter, Counter Strike 2. The immediate success of Helldivers 2 has been both a blessing and a curse for Arrowhead, who struggled to adapt the massive multiplayer numbers attempting to log in. While the studio and team are happy to see the game become a major success,
00:12:52
Speaker
Coming most concurrent becoming the most concurrently played Sony published game on Steam. Back end issues have been continued to hold back the experience. This was an article that released yesterday and it was at 452,362 concurrent players at the time of this.
00:13:16
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article. So yeah, it's kind of setting the world ablaze, if you will. And I really wanted to play it and I was like, you know what, I'll just play it solo. But then literally everybody and all the reviews I said were like, don't play it solo. So I was like, dang it. And then I reached out to some people and it's like, hey, what if we got hell divers too? And then I didn't get any responses.
00:13:38
Speaker
So I heard something over the weekend because apparently I saw like on Twitter, there was a lot of screenshots of like, you know, server full or can't get in or blah, blah, blah. Apparently I read something about people not logging out. And I'm like, if you're inactive in most multiplayer games, it usually kicks you out anyway. So I don't know if like I don't know if they're like at capacity because of the statement of people not logging out, people just like staying in so they can keep playing even though they're not playing. I don't know.
00:14:06
Speaker
I would assume it knocks you out if you're idle. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Or if you're on console, you more than likely have like if you're idle for 30 minutes, your console just shuts off.
00:14:22
Speaker
Players are thinking or is that what someone from the company said? I don't think that was from the company. I don't know. It was just a post on Twitter that just like stirred my thoughts because somebody said some new players not logging out. So I don't know.
00:14:39
Speaker
But I heard this weekend was bad for people not being able to play. I was watching a couple of her friends stream it on Discord and it took a while. It took them like three hours to get in. God. I don't know if I have that patience, to be honest. I really don't know if I have that patience. I mean, this is the sentence right here from this article.
00:15:02
Speaker
Helldivers 2 has already passed many significant milestones, including overtaking Destiny 2's all-time concurrent peak on Steam. I heard that. What a load, dude! That's bull crap. Destiny needs to get their crap together. You know that peak was, uh, lightfall, too. It was lightfall, yep. Which is really funny. That is funny. It's hilarious. That is weird.
00:15:27
Speaker
like the highest player count for the worst possible time. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I've watched some Twitch streamers and some YouTubers play it and it looks like a fun time. So yeah, the friendly fire aspect makes it look real funny. Yeah, I'm just going to start putting in our Discord chat or I'll text our little group chat or something to say.
00:15:56
Speaker
Carlos, you getting hell divers too? What are we doing? I'm not gonna buy it until you buy it, but if you buy it, I'll buy it. Oh, really? Hey, also, but also- Yes, there's a cat. Remnant 2 never happened either.
00:16:12
Speaker
But right now, I still have it too. Yeah, I just haven't touched. Oh, yeah, that's right. Right now, Hall Divers is is priority if that were to be the case. I got three games on Black Friday, so I'm playing. What's the other? Let's see. What are the other two?
00:16:27
Speaker
Uh, Spider-Man remaster Miles Morales and, um, uh, what we just said, those are the three. I haven't touched them. I haven't touched them. Listen, remnant two is a good time. No, I, the thing is, I know further away, I get on my mask again. Like I know, I know it's a good game. I know it is. I just have played it.
00:16:47
Speaker
Well, too many games. That's the problem. I think it seems like this year is going to be significantly slower than last year, though. So I think there's going to be time to get some of these games on sale throughout the year. And Helldivers 2, I would assume, once this like big hype dies down, like end of summer, early fall or something like that, I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up as either the PlayStation game of the month or on their like
00:17:17
Speaker
Pass of some sort. Mm-hmm You guys were not on the podcast last week When we talked me and Matthew talked about all the Xbox stuff boy, did we talk about it? Xbox had their business event, which was a 20-minute podcast where they said nothing. I listen to it. Yeah, and I checked it out literally that was
00:17:44
Speaker
a week ago from the time of recording this. And Phil Spitzer himself said, we are not going to announce the four games now because we're going to let the teams do that. And it has been, it took them six days to announce the four games. Wow. You could have just said, well, we'll announce them next week. That's just whatever.
Xbox Expands to Other Platforms
00:18:04
Speaker
So the Nintendo Direct, the third party Nintendo Direct that happened this week announced Grounded and Pentiment that were coming to
00:18:14
Speaker
Uh, or that we're a part of that direct. Yeah. A lot of people made comments about like how that Nintendo direct didn't show a high five rush. Cause everyone was expecting high five to be on there, but it didn't. Grounded. Does it have, uh, I don't know if you guys have played it, but does it have like voice chat in the game?
00:18:35
Speaker
I have played it, but I was in a party, so I don't know. I guess because we use Discord and everything. I just wonder, just from Nintendo's perspective, how they're going to treat that like. It's a good point. Multiplayer purposes. I mean, because like it's one of those. It's a survival game. You're like, you know, and shrunken people and you're trying to survive. Like you need communication. Mm hmm.
00:18:57
Speaker
I mean Nintendo themselves don't know what they're doing. It looked like duty with multiplayer games. It's going to look like super dude. There's no, anyways, after that they were like, okay, I guess we'll just announce all four games now.
00:19:17
Speaker
And they did so, so I don't know what the difference between six days ago and when they announced these, but they are Sea of Thieves Grounded, Hi-Fi Rush, and Pentament. Yeah. Pentament is coming to PlayStation and Switch February 22nd. Hi-Fi Rush is coming to PS5 on March 19th. Grounded is coming to PS4, PS5, and Switch on April 16th. And Sea of Thieves is coming to PlayStation 5 on April the 30th.
00:19:47
Speaker
So I think hi fire Russian see if these on ps5 is a good move. I I Don't think see if these is free. No, it's always been it's always been on game path. So that's where I played it but Over 40 bucks 40 50 bucks. Yeah, 40 bucks. I may get it again if it just to play it on PlayStation because I
00:20:13
Speaker
I want to support this because I want Halo on PlayStation, you know? And what we talked about last week, what are y'all's thoughts on the whole Xbox stuff that's going on? Obviously we talked all the rumors and crap that was happening, but then it pretty much just came out. I forget the four points that they were trying to nail down, which was like, our games are coming day one to game pass.
00:20:38
Speaker
will continue to do cross play and cross save. We're going to make consoles still. And so they also announced like another like didn't announce like a high powered or some like special console or anything. Yeah, bro. The words they said was they said it was going to be the biggest
00:20:59
Speaker
console leap ever like okay listen it's never gonna get any bigger to me than like at like super nintendo to 64 okay that ain't happening like how can you claim something like that
00:21:12
Speaker
now now especially for a console yeah no way there's no way there's no way this is this is uh my my theory from last week is has shifted a little bit through the week because someone said something on twitter or a podcast or something and i didn't think about and now i think it's true and it's kind of crazy but what i said last week was
00:21:37
Speaker
They can say that it'll be the biggest technical leap or whatever because they're rumored to not do a mid-gen refresher. They're not going to do like a pro version or anything. So it'll be going from like Series X to whatever the new version is. Or they may even say something even stupider like,
00:21:55
Speaker
Series S to this version is the biggest technical leap. Yeah. It's like bull crap. But if you don't come out with a pro version, it's not obviously going to be a bigger leap than if you came out with a pro version. So if they're not going to do a pro version, they're just going to make a new next gen console. But I heard somebody say that their prediction was that they're going to do a Dreamcast.
00:22:20
Speaker
and come out with the new next gen Xbox a year before PlayStation is going to come out with their PlayStation six, which I was like, that's a good idea. If you're Xbox, you can't sell hardware at all. Do whatever you can to get yours out a year before PlayStation gets theirs out. That's a good move. Yeah. Cause then that kind of justifies, so justifies not doing like a pro version or whatever too, where it's like,
00:22:47
Speaker
I forget what the PlayStation said that the PlayStation 5 is now in the latter half or whatever. So you would assume a new PlayStation 6 in like 2020. Yeah, apparently I think it was over the holidays. It didn't sell as much as they wanted. So I think they're moving on. Yeah, they're like, oh, we're at the end of its hardware life. But I feel like it hasn't even been that long, dude. They said the latter half. So they're basically like, it's halfway. Three years, I think.
00:23:15
Speaker
Came out November of 2020. Well, the quote I saw was that it was nearing the end of its life cycle. I didn't, the quote I saw wasn't. It was some stupid wording. I forgot what it was. It was something stupid. November 12th, 2020. So this November will be four years total. Four years.
00:23:39
Speaker
So you would assume like 2020, like fall of 27, maybe 28. So if your Xbox, like if you're not going to do a pro version, maybe you push for like 26 and be like, okay, so here's the question. Did the Xbox series X come out the same year as the PS5?
00:23:57
Speaker
Yeah, it came out like a week before or something. OK, yeah, no, they need to. Yeah, like you said, they need to break off completely if they can. I mean, but the thing is, though, like, you know, there seems to be several issues, like one, like why does the PS5 outdo the Xbox or better games? Exactly. You know,
00:24:19
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Again,
Xbox's Strategic Moves
00:24:20
Speaker
it's right in front of their faces and they're constantly missing what they need to do. Oh, let's buy up all these gaming companies. Oh, let's put games on other companies. It's like, why don't you do more original work? Why don't you have some IPs to really ground yourself into the gaming history and stop doing everything else? They need to do some planning for once too.
00:24:46
Speaker
Like if you're going to try and come out with a new console, your next gen console in fall of 26 or 27, like a game like fable better be like, you have to have like a launch game that works for one that like really shows it off. Or there needs to be, I think my wife is coming home, uh, or there needs to be.
00:25:09
Speaker
Kind of like what PlayStation is doing with the pro, which I don't think they've said this, but it's kind of obvious to me. GTA six comes out next year. They're going to have a PS five pro out this year. They're going to make sure that they have, they're the best place. Cause there's not a PC version at launch for GTA. So they're going to make sure that they're the best place for GTA six to be played no matter what.
00:25:33
Speaker
So they're going to have their pro console. So if your Xbox, maybe there's a game, not going to be as big as DTA six or maybe if you can get like the sports games that come out every year or that year's call of duty or like a fable lunch or something that like, listen, this is going to blow your socks off way more than it will on a PS five or a PS five pro. Cause this is our next gen system or whatever, but will they actually plan that out? Will they just be third party by 2027? No one knows.
00:26:04
Speaker
It's true. My wife told me, everybody say, what's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Here she comes, guys. Star of the show. Hey. Hello. We have a girl on the podcast. We're going to get so many views now. Our most viewed video.
00:26:28
Speaker
Turned out to be our most viewed video of all time. I think honestly, the only thing that stuck out to me on that podcast where they had the four there talking about Xbox was the fact that they have actually taken a step forward and we are going to see Blizzard stuff come to the Xbox or Game Pass. So with the announcement of Diablo 4, that was cool. And to me, that's only inevitably leading to World of Warcraft on Xbox, which will be huge. That would be huge.
00:26:57
Speaker
So that was the only part of that where I was like, OK, cool, cool. That would be redeeming. OK, because it comes the game pass. It comes out on the new console. Like, I mean, I'm sure it can also come out on Series X, whatever, but like it's coming to the consoles like it's it is a kind of a good reason. I mean, I wouldn't call it like a launch title, but, you know, like it's going to be part of their power move. It's like, oh, now we've got and also Call of Duty. Yeah.
00:27:28
Speaker
Totally random statement. So in my eyes, I think Halo is dead and there's no way to redeem it. Do we see Gears of War become the flagship game instead of Halo?
00:27:40
Speaker
And that is a shame because Gears of War definitely deserves to be like I love gears one of the big biggest poster childs of of Microsoft and it's a shame that they've kind of shunted away and then they ruined halo and push that to everybody So why why do you why have we not heard anything about gears did the last one not sell well because I heard it was good
00:28:03
Speaker
I think that that team has probably been working on a new gears for quite some time. So when we see gears again, it's going to be a big deal. I guess it's going to be a big, big game. They think so. Big daddy game. Yeah. But I mean, I mean, to people sub 30 years old, which is a lot of gamers.
00:28:24
Speaker
Like Halo isn't and hasn't been. Yeah. Like a like a staple Xbox game like ever in their life. It's just also holding on. Yeah. We put Master Chief on the back of the box because Phil Spencer is like 80 years old like the rest of us. But I don't know the game went out then. And now they take it. They took them off. So it's like.
00:28:47
Speaker
I mean, to me, who's like Halo three is like a top three game of all time. It's not number one. Like. It's just it's disappointing, but at the same time, it's like just like I would rather you just not make anymore. I enjoyed it. But I think three was like it's pinnacle. Yeah, I mean, I like the story for four. Yeah, I think three was a pinnacle. I do think that if infinite came over to PlayStation, it would.
00:29:16
Speaker
I mean, it's it would do numbers. It needs to work right first. They need. I don't know the game that game took a weird route with just trying to be a life service game and then not so like the whole story just has this very weird cliffhanger where it's like.
00:29:36
Speaker
oh you know you can go explore the rest of the area and you can just run around just there's always going to be enemies there and you know stay tuned for more story stuff because it kind of does end like where like the world is yours like the whole halo ring or whatever and you're supposed to spend the next game there and then nothing happens so they need to figure out a way to bring back their
00:30:01
Speaker
Either. They're going to need to develop a new Halo or they're going to find a team to make it a live service. I don't think they're going to do that. I feel like another team should. I don't want 343 to make any more. Hey, I agree personally. Yeah, which is they have a lot of Call of Duty teams now, so.
00:30:22
Speaker
How do we get, okay, that's what we, that's okay. So Master Chief needs to come to PlayStation. Bungie needs to make Halo again. Let's do it. And so Destiny, before that to happen, Destiny has to fail.
00:30:38
Speaker
I mean, it's trying. You see, it is. So. So. So because here's the thing. Marathon has a connection to the Halo series. There's like there's some references, but so Halo die and a Halo Destiny dies. Master Chief comes over to PlayStation and then.
00:31:00
Speaker
Bungie doesn't have Halo anymore. Sony takes over Bungie because they failed so hard and they're like, no, you guys are going to work on the new Halo game and the world is safe. Russia stops invading Ukraine and then we have peace and everything happens. Everyone's happy because Bungie got they got they got Master Chief back. I agree.
00:31:25
Speaker
Let's do it. So a lot of the stuff you guys are saying, I don't know if we've talked about this or not. Do we think there's any internal talks at Bungie about like pulling the trigger on Destiny after the final shape? I know the I know they got like a new game director and they talked about, oh, the Vex are coming back and there's plans for Destiny after the final shape. But do you think there's some conversations about like, hey, you think we should just pull the trigger and start like a new IP?
00:31:54
Speaker
I think there is. Yeah. Good.
00:31:58
Speaker
I was going to say, I just think, yes. Now, whether or not they're serious talks or not, it's definitely been conversations for sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny because, you know, just a couple of years ago, they were like, hey, expect 10 more years of destiny. Like we're not giving this game is going to keep chugging along, you know, and they wanted to be like the next World of Warcraft, you know, the last thing that long and.
00:32:26
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No, I don't see that happening. And I could definitely see after the final shape, whether it's good or bad, I could definitely see the player count start to fall off after the episodes. It's not going to have the same effect. More so than now. Yeah. Okay. And then it just, and then Destiny dies next year. Like I could see that happening.
00:32:51
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and dies as in like not that they axe it but that it's just not even worth it's because it's pretty much is at that point for a lot of people right now that it's not worth playing right now i mean it's it's really uh difficult and you have to kind of be lucky and like a thing to do to be like a world of warcraft it's just lasted decades and decades yeah yeah i i think world of warcraft is is
00:33:17
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They have a creative team to put out new worlds, new content. They're not like recycling stuff. That's to me the issue is like put out fresh content. That's it. And Blizzard has been so massive. So like there's been like if Bungie is a little different where it's like if you're burned out on Destiny, you just pretty much just have to find another job somewhere else. Now, I guess they have people moving over to Marathon and stuff like that, which is all fine and dandy.
00:33:46
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But like working on the same game for a long time, like people want to work on different things. We see so many creative directors leave and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so like even like Naughty Dog, like the last of us happened because we didn't want to make Uncharted again. Like we want to make something different. And now they're at the point where they're like, right, we're probably going to make one more last of this game we don't want to make. We want to make something different now. And so I think it's inevitable for Destiny to
00:34:14
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unless some miracle happens, I feel like. I mean, even the Destiny 1 servers are still live, still people in there live and kicking. So I don't think they're going to like shut the game down. Yeah, that's that's what I think they'll keep it live. I don't know if maybe they'll just like refresh the Eververse every so often, but no more expansions, no more seasonal stuff, etc. Yeah. And then and then that's that's you give it five, six years and then Destiny 3 happens.
00:34:43
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I think that's more likely. Hmm. Andrew, something happened this week that I thought about you and I saw it. Oh. Elden Ring's Shadow of Urd Tree. Finally, yeah, finally. From Software's largest expansion ever. It comes from Eurogamer.nananana.net.
00:35:09
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Elden Ring DLC expansion Shadow of Earthry finally has a release date June 21st from software boss Miyazaki? Yep, told Eurogamer that this is the biggest expansion the company has ever worked on. The announcement comes with the trailer which we saw and I think it's a
00:35:31
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I think it's 40 bucks as well for this. It is 40 bucks. Yes, it is. All right. I don't know anything else about it, so I'm just going to let you go. So what I'm trying to look up right now is when did Elden Ring come out? That was 2022. It's January 2022.
00:35:48
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Yeah, so conversations already were like, holy crap, it's 40 bucks. And not 40 bucks as in like, we're getting ripped off. It's like 40 bucks, like, holy crap, how big is this thing? Yeah. So apparently the new map, the starting area of Elden Ring is called Limgrave. Apparently the new map is like the size of Limgrave.
00:36:10
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So that's like apparently there's 10 bosses. Uh, I forgot how many like eight new weapons or something like that New new dungeons, etc, etc, etc. So like we're we're probably looking at like easily 100 plus hours of gameplay. Um, that's a lot Yeah, no, I and and so to i'm looking at this kind of like
00:36:31
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You know, like when you've already you've already created the foundation, you know, your your graphics engine, your map, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So to me, this is like Breath of the Wild to like, you know, Tears of the Kingdom, right? The foundation is already there and now we can build upon it. So I think they've just been going like I think they've been just grinding since Elden Ring's release on this expansion. And I I think it's going to be like the 10 out of 10 killer. I really do.
00:36:58
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We'll see this newfangled game awards that we have now that, you know, you can just kind of put any game in anything you want. So we're
Elden Ring DLC Anticipation
00:37:07
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we're definitely going to see this expansion as a Game of the Year nominee. Yeah, there's actually so there's a boss you fight at Elden Ring. And at the back of the arena, there was this like, I guess it looks like an egg that was cracked open and an arm hanging out. And a lot of people are like, what is that? What is that? And apparently Miyazaki has
00:37:28
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Yeah, he apparently announced like that's how you're going to start or enter that expansion is through that. So it's kind of cool that something like that has been sitting there and they knew they were going to do something with that. And all of our speculation as fans of the game, we're always like, what is that? And now it's all making sense. That's pretty cool. Pretty cool. So on the hype train.
00:37:52
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1 to 10. How are you feeling? Oh, 10. I can't remember if I said it on the podcast or before the podcast. Elden Ring is the only game in the history of my life that I've beaten three times back to back when it released.
00:38:07
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I've never done that for any other game I've ever played. There was something about that game that just sucked me in, and as soon as I beat it, I was like, I'm making a new build. He was just like, I'm doing it again. I'm doing it again. I'll be going for my fourth or fifth run right before this. Dang, dude. To answer your question, yeah, 10 out of 10, dude. I'm stoked.
00:38:30
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Like we saw what Elden Ring did for like the gaming community. I mean, people that weren't into Souls games just love that game. So like, yeah, super hype, super, super hype. Super hype. Super hype too. It's interesting in the article that they talk about how I guess George RR Martin was like helping with some of it, but he hasn't like helped.
00:39:00
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No, so what he was, I guess he was like consulted for what they were called world building. Um, I don't know if that has to do with like narrative, uh, the world, the characters, et cetera, et cetera. We don't know the details, but we know that his input was world building. So. Got to build that world, man.
00:39:20
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Because it says that it says that George RR Martin has not provided fresh material, but they, it was based on something that they did, I guess he did earlier. Okay. So it's just based off some urgent one that they never used or something like that. Yeah. Like he probably like, you know, like spent like a month and just like vomit into a notebook. It was like here.
00:39:43
Speaker
And they're like, cool, we have all this extra stuff we can do. You're like, cool, now get back to writing the last Game of Thrones book. Yeah, right. Maybe five years ago. He's like, no. Can't make me. I already made my money. But yeah, based on the trailer, it looked like there was like.
00:40:01
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I don't know if I want to call it new builds or new move sets. There was some animations that we hadn't seen before and stuff like that. So I was like, oh, do we have new classes and stuff like that? So it's pretty exciting. I will say that one part of the trailer that they showed with the crazy lion boss looking thing, that was one of the coolest animation move things. I'm like, dang, you get a fight that?
00:40:30
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And yeah, and what's crazy is like the fans have already started speculating the lion's head. And is the lion's head attached to this or is this a connection to this character? And they're looking at the lion's abilities and they're like, Oh, I noticed the lightning. Does the light, is that the same lightning move from here? Like people are already just stripping it apart. I will say.
00:40:49
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Like one thing about that trailer and I mean, I don't know, like they seem to have given away like a lot when they were showing these things off or like you could you pause, you look frame for frames like, OK, I already can count this guy's frames. I know what his moves are. Some of his moves are going to be like. I already know how to beat this guy.
00:41:07
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There are people that are already like planning this out on how to go about it. They get rabid for this stuff. Like I've already beat every single boss on the trailer in my head. I already know how to do it. I've already beat the expansion. What's funny is there's an interview with Miyazaki regarding the Earth Tree expansion in past Souls games and apparently
00:41:30
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We have not like discovered everything that he's put into his games. And I think that is so sick. Like, you know, when you hear like a game's been out for like a couple of decades and then fans are finding this new thing. I love that crap. So like, I think it's like really cool that we haven't milked everything or found every milking. Are there any little fairies that you can spank? I was just going to bring that up.
00:41:54
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Was just gonna bring that up gonna be one of the new expansion cuz there's not it's yeah, it's a weapon So what you do is you run around with the fairy in your left hand? And he spank it and it does like the siren scream and it blows people back You can be like That sounds like that might just be it sounds like a fable thing All right, my headset is gonna die because I have a little lady in my ear that keeps saying low battery charging now
00:42:24
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Um, so do you have any final thoughts before we end this podcast out boy, final thoughts? Uh, the same thing I've said like, uh, many, many times too many games to play. You said it on the podcast two days. So.
00:42:41
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Going off of what you said earlier, I think this looks to be a good year to catch up on backlog, to pick the five games that you didn't play the last couple of years. This will be a good year to dive into all that stuff. Yeah, for sure.
00:42:57
Speaker
The things with, if you're watching some video, all of these little Apple ditties that I do, I'm starting to see other podcasts that I watch and listen to discovering this for the first time. Oh, nice. And I'm like, yep. What if you're crediting our podcast because of it? It better be. I was watching this podcast log on games. That'd be pretty cool.
00:43:23
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I mean, we're trendsetters, you know? Yeah, man. Carlos, any final thoughts?
00:43:28
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Uh, no, I think at some point soon, I'm going to give in to the urge of. And catching up, James, I'm going to I'm going to have like PC games that I play at my computer to catch up on, like repeating cyberpunk playing the expansion. And then I think for my steam deck, I'm going to try to do Death Stranding.
00:43:58
Speaker
I still want to play that too man. I need to I need to beat that game. I still want to play that I'm still chugging away at Final Fantasy 16 slowly Been playing apex for the first time in quite a long
00:44:18
Speaker
Interesting. Just had some friends text and be like, hey, let's play Apex. And then we just kind of got back into it. So I'm not good like I used to be, but we're getting there. That's all right. Yeah. Dead Island 2 came to Game Pass. So I've been waiting for that game to go on sale for a while and now it's on Game Pass. So I'm going to go through that one as well. And then who knows what will happen after this?
00:44:41
Speaker
So if you don't mind me dipping into your Final Fantasy 16 playthrough, when you say chugging along, is that just because you're doing side content or you're not playing it that much? I'm not playing it that much. Gotcha. I would be like, I'll play it for like because we moved and so I kind of like had a big pause on playing it. And then there's been times where I've tried to sit down and play the game, but then like something pops up or I remember I have to do something. So like playing it for like 30 minutes and then gotcha.
00:45:12
Speaker
So hopefully one of these days we've kind of settled down now. We're like been in here for like two weeks now. The wreck has been settled. The car fixing has been settled. The dogs are finally like not pooping in the house and are settled. That's good. Yeah. The first like week and a half, the doctor is like, I don't can't compute move house must poop on walls and then like the way away. What?
00:45:44
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But Final Fantasy XVI is about to start, back up. So hopefully I'll have that beaten so we can play. But I mean, Carlos is going to text me tonight and say let's play Helldiver. So that's going to have to go down.
00:46:01
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