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The PS5 Pro Is More Powerful Than You Think
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Introduction and Schedule Mix-up
00:00:13
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What's up everybody welcome to the log on games podcast for Friday
00:00:19
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March the 22nd. I almost said February. Yeah. I like the little pauses there. Okay. Well, then I can, no stroke will ever defeat me.
Marvel Game and PS5 Pro Leaks
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Um, on this episode today, we got
00:00:41
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A new Marvel game, a new Amy Henning game for the first time in forever because everything else she works on gets canceled because EA sucks. Wow. They really do. But we finally got our first look at Captain America Black Panther. We also got a slew of PlayStation 5 pro leaks, which is really all just the same leak. But everyone's everybody talk about it.
00:01:09
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And then we did have if you listen to last week's podcast, we did get the first stream of the destiny into the light thing. Yes, sir. On that as well as talk about what we've been playing, what's going on in the world and who we're voting for this November. Spoiler alert. I'm not voting for anybody. Spank a fairy. All right. With me today on the podcast, you can find him. Didn't go for Ivy last year or last time.
00:01:38
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The times that you were able to ride in, I voted for Ben Rhodes one time and I rode in Peter Parker one time. I don't remember. I thought you voted for Ivy last time.
00:01:51
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And then they stopped doing write-ins in South Carolina. So, and I can't tell you if that was for a presidential election, a local thing, I don't know, I don't remember.
Humorous Voting Stories
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I just remember looking at the screen and being like, I don't know who any of these people are. So why am I even here? And I was like, oh, I can write in. Woo, here we go. But yeah, so I remember last, was it last presidential election that these nuts had like,
00:02:21
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90 something thousand write-ins or something like that. Probably. If I didn't know one I would have voted that way. I forgot what I was talking about but with me today you can find him in G Vegas sitting
00:02:42
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I guess you're in Greer, which is still Greer, Greer, Greer Vegas. Excuse me. Matthew is on the podcast. Oh wow. Matthew, I don't know if you were here when we talked about this is spank the fairy. Nope. That's what that is. I've had a pretty bonkers last four or five weeks. I missed most of the podcasts. Bonkers. Should be Gucci. Gucci now.
00:03:10
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Well, it's all swell. What do you been, uh, you've been planning anything for the last month?
PAX and Game Reviews
00:03:18
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Yes, but things have changed about a week ago, early access for.
00:03:25
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your favorite video game, MLB, the show. It's my favorite. Yep. And so I've been playing a good bit of that. It's really fun. I thought I was going to say Marvel's Avengers, but game of the year, baby. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah. So I've been playing some MLB, the show also, um,
00:03:47
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going to PAX tomorrow, by the time you people listen to this, most, most people won't listen to it until at least 10 a.m. I'm guessing, and I'll be at PAX at that point. And last year at PAX, I got a chance to play Pacific Drive, which also just released a couple of weeks ago, like three weeks ago. And it's only like 30 bucks too. So really fun game, really enjoying it. I like it a lot. It's, it is unique. I don't, I don't really know what game to compare it to. It's pretty cool. You have to like fix up your car, right? So yeah, you're like,
00:04:17
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Almost like, I forget the word they use off the top of my head, but you're like tied to your car, basically. I forget the word. Yes, with rope. No. And so the car and you, you were like, yeah, everything you do has to do with that car. And so you're, you're consistently like upgrading the car as you go on. And, um, yep, it's a fun one, man. I'm really liking it. I'm waiting for the sequel Atlantic drive.
00:04:47
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Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I'll be way better. Yeah, honestly, it is a game that I wish I had the ability to I don't even think I don't I'm maybe they do it this way. I don't just don't know it. But that is a game that which should be made for VR. Yeah.
00:05:05
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Because so many things you do have to do with looking at like, even when you're driving in the car, you are still like right stick. You have to look around with your head for stuff. Right. And so like, when you go to get it, when you go to park your car, you look down and you put it in park and then you turn the car off or it's going to waste gas the whole time you're out of it. And so like, I dunno, just as a lot of those kinds of things, I actually think VR would be a good fit for that. I am curious about this. Um, anything else?
Pal World: Steam's Top 15
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hmm life little little pal world here and there little pal world I haven't heard that name in a while well I saw somebody trying to bash pal world on twitter the other day and they were like it's so good they're like look how quickly pal world fell and it was in the top he took a picture of the top 15 most played steam games or whatever and it was number 15 I commented and be like how awful it is to be
00:06:03
Speaker
You know, a month and a half after releasing only be 15th, you know, how terrible that must feel. I know. I mean, one of the significant drop, but yes, top 15 on Steve. That's still quite, quite huge. Yeah. I would imagine they have a huge player base still on Game Pass, I would think. Yeah. Did you see the their new trailer for their first big update introducing their first raid boss? Mm hmm.
00:06:31
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So that's going to be a fun time. Yeah, honestly, the only reason we fell off playing it is because our schedules have been hard to get together. And this is one of those games where if I'm not this.
00:06:42
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Yeah. And it's one of those games where if I'm not playing with other people, I wish that I was. And so anytime I play my own solo world, all the upgrades and progression that I do, I'm like, I mean, that's cool. And I wish that I was doing this on our multiplayer world. So I don't have to redo it when I complete. So, um, it's really good though. I don't know whether that dedicated server wise for Xbox, but I know that's coming soon.
00:07:04
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I'm probably I'm assuming it won't come until like the game's fully out, but I could be wrong. Well, they talked about trying to get it out soon, so we'll see. There's an article with either one of the developers or the higher ups or something that was like.
Live Performance Anecdotes
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The game made so much money, they just don't even know what to do with it because the game didn't cost them. See if I can find it. Mm hmm. They don't know how much it costs. I have an idea.
00:07:34
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Give me some. What's your idea? They should give me some. February the 1st. CEO said the game cost about $6.75 million to make. Well, then what is Nintendo doing with their lives with Pokemon? Make it more money. They've they've sold as February 26. 25 million units. Yeah. They've sold more units.
00:08:05
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Mm-hmm. But a lot. Then they, then they have. It's just so good. Honestly, there's no, no, no part of the reason that I have played less is because I wasn't enjoying it or don't want to play more. Like I actually think about playing that game extremely regularly. Now that being said, right before I came down here, my PC basically stopped working. So I got, I got problems when I get home. I got to get that fixed before I can play again. So we'll see what happens.
00:08:36
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Yeah, I mean, they have just oodles of money, which is great. So they'll be able to hopefully pump out some stuff a little bit quicker now they have money to allocate to other places. But I get on every once in a while because like, like you said, like it's been a lot, it's been probably a month since we've like actually been on it on it.
00:08:53
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And there's probably been like three or four, five updates since then. So like every once in a while, I'm like, I know there's been like two or three updates. Let me see, honestly, how smoothly it runs. And so I'll just like get on there and just check it out and be like, all right, everything seems good. It runs smoothly. Cool little, like every update they have is always has like one or two little quality of life things in it that I go, yes, that's a good thing.
00:09:16
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So it seems like they are not only spending that money on updating it, but they're like listening to people and updating the things that matter and that will make people stick around. Yeah, it's really cool. Oh, so with us today on the podcast, you can find him over there at Brown Berserker. We have Andrew with us on the podcast. Yo.
00:09:44
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Dale's getting gente with that. Do you like that? Very gente.
00:09:50
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Uh, speaking of Gint is why are you here? You know what I mean? Um, speaking of Gint, the, uh, new like rock band slash Fortnite guitar thing went up for pre-order today. And by the time I could click on it, it was sold out. Really? Yep. Okay. The demand is there. Oh my gosh. And let me tell you, I was like, let me look at the pictures and stuff. So it's $130 for one, which is not cheap, but it's cheaper than if you just try and that's what you're talking about. Okay.
00:10:21
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It's got an analog stick on it on the back You can like move around cuz you know, you know always trying to hit the D pad on the front of the thing and it's really annoying Yeah, there's a there's a headphone jack on it, which is awesome and a rechargeable battery We can just plug it up. Okay. Oh, it sees that the joystick is on the back It's on like where the little knobs for tuning are
00:10:46
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Meets meets the neck. Okay, but but on the back see personally, okay where I would like it. I think they should put The joystick right here so you can be like
00:10:59
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Yeah, but you got your strap locks on, you know, where you got it all duct taped so you can turn around. You know what? I don't think about people standing up, but I guess that makes sense playing. I got to tell you, I play so much better standing up on Rock Band, like to the point where if it's a song that requires any sort of like, I can't sleepwalk through it, I have to stand up.
00:11:20
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OK, that's fair. That's fair. That's going to be 95 percent of the time. Yeah, 95. I think I've only played sitting down. I guess that does. That makes sense to get into it. You got to be saying, you got to get into it, man. If you're going to play right, man, you know, crab core squats, you know, which I'll say is kind of funny because in real life, I consider myself at least a pretty good acoustic guitarist. I play way better sitting down if I need to play something difficult. So I don't know why. I don't know. Maybe it's just because there's five buttons and not all the different things. But I don't know. It's weird.
00:11:50
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I play way better sitting down on the drums than I do standing up. That makes sense. But you do play standing up on the drums sometimes. I try not to. That's true. I try not to. It was more that was more of like a 2009 Let's Be Cool for three seconds. But were you cool? No, not in the slightest. Um.
00:12:12
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I have a question as well. Oh, snap two questions. Let's go. You first. I was going to ask Andrew what his most embarrassing on stage moment has been playing music through the years. Embarrassing. So apparently.
00:12:29
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In the metal world, you know, to be cool and edgy, like before a breakdown, you know, you might do like the slit the throat thing. And apparently our set was filmed, right? And we watched it back, like myself in the band. And apparently instead of doing this, I went across the nose and my buddy was like, were you like simulating a runny nose? And I'm like, I don't know why I did that. That was cocaine, you know? There's a lot of things I did on stage. I don't know why I did that.
00:12:59
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All this pollen is killing me. Let's do this. This is not quite as embarrassing, but I wasn't embarrassed. It wasn't. It was just kind of like when I rewatch it, I was like, why did I do that? Why did I do 100 percent? We got we got off stage one time and Kyle, our lead guitarist, was like, dude, I saw stars when you hit me in the head. And I was like, what? I had zero idea, but apparently I nailed him with the head of my guitar at some point in the show. That's got to hurt, man. I get. I don't remember it at all. But he was like, man, that hurts so bad. I was like, what hurts so bad?
00:13:33
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I always got yelled at for not moving around enough on stage. I'm pretty chill laid back dude. So I don't know how I did that. I was on tour one time. It was the first show. The tour is here all amped up. Like it's the first show we got to set the bar, you know, and the first song about 30 seconds in, I guess I was just headbanging way too hard. I was just going way too hard and I fell over somehow sitting down.
00:13:59
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I don't know how it happened, but I knocked my floor time over. My stool was back behind me and I was just like this on the ground. But luckily it was like intro of the song at the end of the intro is when I fell over. And then the whole verse is just like beats and, and stuff. So I had time to recover, but still it was like, so hard. I need to, that might've been embarrassing for you, but I promise you like.
00:14:24
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the people watching they either laughed at you or they thought that was the coolest thing in the world like dude that guy was headbanging so hard he passed out here's metal here's what i know here's what i know there are people that remember that show yeah yeah that's what i'm saying there are people that remember nobody got a video of it because we're playing in front of a bunch of old people i feel like there might be more positive than negative to that situation so i agree
00:14:48
Speaker
That's what it is. That's why I have a back to my drumstool now. More sport. I think as a drummer, I would want that back part, too. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So my question to bring it back to the Vigi games was this controller that sold out like in a half a second that also works on rock band. Do you think that it's sold out because it works on rock band or because it works on Fortnite?
00:15:11
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You know what I'm saying? Like, where do you think the greater demand was? Because I know people, there's a high demand for the old rock band guitars. I think there's three different segments of people, which is why it's sold out. I would say the most is rock band players. The second most is people that just know if they buy it, they can resell it.
00:15:31
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for like your scalpers. Yeah. And then third is Fortnite people. Cause it doesn't work with Fortnite out in the gate. It says coming, coming to the festival thing. Gotcha. Soon or whatever. So gotcha. And I don't think a lot of people were playing that Fortnite mode. It looks cool. And my, my guitar has some issues. So my guitar works great, but I kind of want to try and like just sell my guitar.
00:15:59
Speaker
I know. Since it's so high and priced, and then just buy one of these. Yeah, if I could guarantee myself getting one of these, I would, yeah. For sure. See if I can pre-order one first, but, uh, we're going to welcome everybody to the Log On Games Podcast. 15 minutes in. Show them which we discuss a variety of gaming news topics from new games, big announcements, events, and more. New episodes upload every Friday on podcast Spotify, wherever it is you listen to your podcast at. You can also watch the video format on youtube.com slash
00:16:25
Speaker
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Current Gaming Habits
00:16:50
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So here's Destiny.
00:16:53
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Yep. Here's me. Oh, it's good. Oh. So. Audio listeners, you gotta watch. Yeah. I've been actively trying to play Final Fantasy for like a minimum of 10 to 15 minutes a day because I feel like if I let go, I'm just going to let go. So.
00:17:15
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Yeah, the hook is back in. I don't know how or where it came from, but the hook is back in. I do plan on finishing Final Fantasy, but all I've been wanting to play is Destiny, and that is a very shocking thing to say after how I felt the last year. We are literally in the exact same spot, gaming-wise in our life. I'm playing a different Final Fantasy game, but it's the same thing. I want to finish it.
00:17:41
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as well then. It's almost as if our cycles have aligned. We're in the same cycles. I'm about to play a finest fantasy game, like literally this weekend probably. Okay. Which one? But not the same one. Three.
00:17:55
Speaker
Nice. Lame. I beat one or two. And I want to go through. I want to play all of them up until when it stops. Stops being turn based. That's right. Are you talking about three Japan or three America? Do you know what I mean? Three. Three America is six Japan. Do you get it? Yes. I think I think three Japan.
00:18:17
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I think I'm trying to play it in that order. Okay. Okay. I don't remember. I have to look. It's all in my little menu, mini plus. You just kind of jumped through, but I beat one and two. Actually, actually I beat one and two in Spanish class in high school on the game boy SP, but, um, yeah, I got all the game, all of the final fantasies that from PlayStation one and before all like lined up on that thing and my favorites to just ready to jump into. So.
00:18:45
Speaker
That is sick. If you're a listener, if you're a deep destiny player, you'll get this. If not, skip like two minutes. But is Guardian Games rigged?
New Marvel Game Reveal
00:18:59
Speaker
So what I don't understand is how one week one class dominates and then the next week another class dominates. And now my class warlocks are like dominating. It's like something just doesn't make sense at all. It's weird.
00:19:15
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It is weird. I don't I don't believe it for a second, but whatever. This is what this is what I think is going to happen. Everybody thinks it's rigged and it probably is to an extent. But like the last day. I don't know how it works. Is it go by week? Because if it is, it's going to be a tie. To be honest, I don't know. I never really got into it, to be honest. Like if there was something to chase, I would do like the main quest line to get said I don't get a skimmer. Yeah, skimmer. Yeah. So I don't know.
00:19:46
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Um, all right. Well, let's start with the big news out of GDC, which is really funny because like them watching some gaming podcasts and influencer stuff and they're like all at GDC and then they're all flying to packs and it's just like, you know, I wonder what that's like. I'll say, you know, but out of GDC, but he said, but came captain America and black Panther.
00:20:14
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in 1943 Rise of Hydra. I'm reading this from theverge.com. Epic's State of Unreal keynote opened with a surprise first look at 1943 Rise of Hydra, the new Marvel game from writer and director Amy Hennig. Best known for her work on the Uncharted franchise, it features an ensemble of playable characters including Captain America and Black Panther and is described as a narrative-driven action-adventure game. Marvel describes the game as,
00:20:45
Speaker
As the game's narrative unfolds, players will assume the role of four central characters, a young Steve Rogers, AKA Captain America, Azuri, T'Challa's grandfather, and the World War II era Black Panther, Gabriel Jones, a US soldier and member of the Howling Commandos, and Nanali, a Wakandan spy embedded in occupied Paris. 1943 was featured in Epic because it's being built with the most current version of Unreal Engine 5.4.
00:21:15
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And the trailer proved to be quite the visual showcase. And it first announced her studio, blah, blah, blah. OK, also, I don't know if you've seen the trailer. Also, she came out after the trailer and was like, everything you saw is like pulled straight from the game. Like we didn't make some trailer for this show. Oh, like in game engine. Yeah, it's all in game. This is what our game looks like. I haven't seen that. That's understood, man. Have you guys seen the trailer? And and I'm watching again.
00:21:45
Speaker
All right. Well, give me your thoughts. Here's my question. When this game releases. Will it be the best looking game out at the time? Because I would think yes. I mean, look at it. The engine does look good. Yeah. So if this is in game, it looks good. So the facial animations are insane, dude.
00:22:10
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Yeah, well, we talked about a little bit, you know, in the past, but this unreal five stuff, man, when all the games are on that, it is such a leap. Like there's so many things you can do just really with the the the surrounding just areas that make it look just add so much. I'm a fan. I like I like going back and doing the the 40s kind of vibe with the stuff anyways. I think it fits really well.
00:22:45
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Andrew, as you're watching for the first time, what are your thoughts? I'm intrigued by the in-game engine, the graphics. Besides that, if it's not made by Insomniac, I don't know if I have an interest off the bat. But just like anything else, once I actually see the gameplay, that's when I'll actually have an opinion. But like I said, visually, I'm impressed.
00:23:00
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Yeah, it's better. It's going to be better than any of the Marvel movies that have come out recently.
00:23:11
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Yeah. As far as the characters go, eh, you know, not really my cup of tea. I'm more of like a Spider-Man X-Men guy. So, you know, I think for a lot of people, this will be appealing. But like I said, it could change once I see that gameplay. So after I watched the trailer like two times, that's what I thought I was like. I was really hoping they would just show off, you know, how they do sometimes. They'll show a trailer like this. But then there's like snippets of gameplay like the God of War trailers come out and you can see like
00:23:38
Speaker
Take like the hub away. Here's like a three second action fight where you can, you know, someone's just smashing buttons or whatever. But we didn't really get that in this trailer, but. Graphically and story wise, it looks baller. Yes. And don't you think they're going to say that for a Sony or a Microsoft or something instead of, you know? Yeah. So it said 2025. I tweeted this out. You might as well just mark that it's going to be 2026.
00:24:08
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When I see somebody, even if it's just a date, if I, if when I see somebody say a date, that's at least a year out, I just assume it's going to be delayed. Yep. That's fine. They may have said, I mean, they may have said 2025 because they're shooting for February, 2025. Maybe it's delayed. Maybe it's just fall.
00:24:27
Speaker
But I don't care what the reasoning is. In my brain, this is a 2026 game. And if it comes out early, then I'll be happy. I was the same way with Alan Wake 2. I was like, I just assume this game is getting delayed because they like, as soon as they showed it, they gave a date. I was like, this is the first time we've seen it and you already gave a date. I don't believe you. But hopefully, hopefully we'll come out next year.
00:24:51
Speaker
Yeah. And obviously Amy Hennig's doing it. And, um, my favorite video game series is Uncharted. It was my number one favorite video game series. And so I'm, I'm in on that as well until she makes something I don't like. I'm just gonna assume it's going to be good.
00:25:09
Speaker
Right. So we have, uh, the summer game fest show June 7th. So you assume Xbox would do something around that. Hopefully PlayStation will do a showcase like they did last year, like what, two, three weeks before. Maybe they do it around the same time. We don't know. Yeah. Um, and that month, hopefully, yeah, hopefully we get gameplay of this game at one of those shows. It could be. Yeah, good. I could see it. Um,
00:25:38
Speaker
Speaking of PlayStation, we had a lot of leaks this past week.
PS5 Pro Specs Discussion
00:25:42
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This is from Eurogamer.net. Last week, more detailed leaks emerged concerning the technical specifications of the PlayStation 5 Pro. The machine is real. It is coming relatively soon and by and large, the leaks are accurate. The question is, what are the design objectives of the new console? So I'm going to go down here to the specs. I'm going to shoot out all these specs to you guys.
00:26:09
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I'm just hoping you tell me how many teraflops it has. Oh, I'm gonna tell you about some flops. That's me CPU Is essentially the same it can be overclocked from 3.5 to 3.85. That's really the only difference CPU wise GPU wise
00:26:32
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PlayStation current PS5 has 36CUSRDNA2. This is for the viewers. Yes. Compute units. Compute units. Compute units. Oh my gosh. And the PS5 Pro has 60 compute units, almost double. And it's RnDA3.
00:26:58
Speaker
One more than our DNA2, guys. Oh, I mean, OK. Sure. The current PS5 is sitting at 10.23 teraflops.
00:27:10
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where the new PS5 Pro will be sitting at 33.5 tera flops. So many flops, man, they are gonna be flopping in their teras out all over the place. The current PS5 memory is 16 gigabytes at 14 giga, what is that? Bits per second.
00:27:37
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Is that right? Because I feel like that was an educated guess and it sounds right. Can anyone tell we don't know what we're talking about? PS5 Pro sits also at 16 gigabytes, but at 18 gigabits per second. Oh, memory available for games, memory, whatever.
00:27:54
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The bottom line is it's going to be bigger and faster. PlayStation 5 Pro also features advanced ray tracing hardware, custom machine learning, silicon, and enhanced audio block. T-flops on PS5 Pro are inflated versus gameplay purpose, owing to dual issue FP32 support in Pro not found in the standard PS5.
00:28:21
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Does that mean anything to any of you guys? Some of it does. So my graphics card and my PC, I'm just curious about the, you know, everybody got to know about their teraflops, you know. So I was checking out my teraflops. We'd be flopping. Mine's about 47 and a half, but also cost me more than a PS5 Pro will cost altogether. And also,
00:28:48
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sounds like this is going to be better at ray tracing than my graphics card is anyways. And so there's some ways that you can manipulate things to where it's not just straight, I got more teraflops than you do, mine's better. It's just kind of like what they detail. For example, my AMD card is more powerful than some Nvidia cards that are like similar price point.
00:29:16
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and looks better graphically until you go ray tracing and then Nvidia's got better software there. So it's way better. And so it's just that kind of thing. So it seems like they're going to focus on that, which is really cool because really adding ray tracing capabilities to a game is probably, it definitely is in our current generation. That's the thing that is the most demanding. When you do that, it takes a lot to run that well.
00:29:42
Speaker
So I would say honestly, the biggest upgrade that you're going to get from by going to the pro is just the ability to ray trace on everything without having to knock it down to 30 frames or whatever. Yeah, Andrew. Is this intriguing you entice you so here this will explain
Shift to PC Gaming
00:30:03
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it all. So like since I've shifted more to the PC game, I'm only playing console for exclusives, exclusives.
00:30:11
Speaker
But what's so, we're gonna talk specifically about Sony here and this pro coming. The problem is since Sony has started putting their stuff on Steam, I've become less interested in the consoles at all. Cause all I have to do is wait. So for me, for the people that are buying it, awesome, good for you. Those numbers sound insane, especially when they're doubling or tripling. But for me personally, when these exclusives are now coming on PC,
00:30:43
Speaker
This obviously doesn't interest me at all, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think even for them, it's just more of a case of, I mean, their consoles are selling like gangbusters anyways. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Right? So let's just make a little extra money off of it and offer people that want it a more powerful product. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:31:01
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I'm not super interested in it. I didn't get a PS4 Pro. I think, Andrew, you did, right? Word. Yeah, I didn't get a PS4 Pro. And I had my day one PS4 all the way through and had no issues with it. So for me, say there was a scenario where part three of the Final Fantasy VII remake could only be played on the Pro, then you're going to get me to spend the money. Sure. Because I want to play it. That's an expensive game.
00:31:27
Speaker
Yes. So my Twitter feed is literally nothing but puppies, Oklahoma city, thunder, basketball and video games. There's really nothing else. It's just those two things.
00:31:42
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So I've seen a slew of people talking about this. I've listened to podcasts, people talk about this. And I've got a bone to pick, Andrew. Pick the bone. That fairy one time, I got a bone to pick. Okay. I'm all ears. First of all,
00:31:59
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Surface level here. I did buy a PS4 Pro. Did they sell like gangbusters? Probably not. I did too, but that was my first PS4. So there you go. Is a pro console or a mid gen upgraded console for everyone? No. Is it for most people? No. Is it for new people coming in where it's the same price? Sure. Is it for weirdos that want there to have two extra frames? Yes.
00:32:27
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So that's first part. I don't know if they ever came out and said like how many PS4 pros sold in like the first year, but it wasn't that much. It's literally like, it's a, I would consider it like a premium product. Like you're already a PlayStation fan boy and you just want to have the best thing so you can play the games on the best graphical setting possible. Um,
00:32:55
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So I get that, that's fine. But I've listened to a lot of people have been like, what's the point? Why? Why? How? Where? Why? For any reason, why? And they're like, they're just like, same with the pro consoles last year, the Xbox One X, the PS4 Pro, like why are we even doing this? I'm sitting here going, there's many a reason.
00:33:20
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If you're PlayStation for one, Grand Theft Auto 5 comes out next year. And you're gonna have commercials out the butthole that say, this is the best place to play Grand Theft Auto 5. It doesn't come to PC, PC nerds. And it's gonna sell more games on day one than most games, most companies sell with all their games combined lifetime. Unless you're Power World, am I right? Unless you're Power World, hey!
00:33:50
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So that's what you're going to be able to say, which is great, which I mean, that's what you want. That's definitely one of the major reasons why. And they've also been teaming up with Grand Theft Auto since the PS5 came out doing like the whatever million dollars worth of stuff and all that junk.
00:34:09
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But on the Xbox side, you're going to do commercials, ads when Grand Theft Auto comes out saying you want the easiest, less, most less expensive way to play Grand Theft Auto 5. You can get a series S, cut the price of like 150, something like that. So you can pass it, whatever. But
00:34:31
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The thing that I keep seeing on my Twitter feed and on podcasts, which is frustrating, is people being like, and this has a little bit to do with Final Fantasy VII for some reason.
00:34:41
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of people being like, ooh, you see Starfield, y'all make fun of Starfield, you don't make fun of Final Fantasy, even people are playing that on 30 frames. I'm like, it has 60 frames mode people. Yeah, exactly. That's not even an argument. So that's what I'm seeing about the PS5 Pro that people are like, if people are like gonna buy it, they're like, well, I wanna make sure that I'm playing Grand Theft Auto at 60 frames on day one. That's fair. I'm gonna be able to do that anyway. Yeah. I have right now on psu.com.
00:35:09
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the list of every PlayStation 5 game that is only 30 frames per second and does not have any performance mode. And you can guess this on how many games total there is on this list. Nine. Three. Three is the correct answer, Andrew. And this is in our class of June 27th last year. So I'm going to throw that out there. There may be more last year.
00:35:35
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But still, it's Gotham Knights, Industria, whatever that is, and the quarry. And I'm pretty sure the quarry had an update for a 60 frame. I mean, the quarry is like supposed to be cinematic, right? I don't know what that is, but the quarry is coming also to Game Pass like this month or something. Yeah. But even if that that number is doubled or something, even if it's tripled, we're talking about like
00:36:04
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There's like what three four thousand games on the PlayStation store like we're talking about a significant number Every game that comes out has a performance mode at sixty four sure now Like I'm playing Final Fantasy 16 right now and boy does it chug if you're not in battle but that's also an exception to like what's happening like most like God of War and
00:36:29
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Miles Morales, Spider-Man 2, Horizon, all these big time gains, Final Fantasy 7. There's a performance mode that makes it stable. Yeah. Even remastered Last of Us to make sure they had it. Exactly. So the people that are like, well, I want to, you know,
00:36:46
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that you're only going to be able to play gear and theft auto at 60 frames a second. If you get this thing, it's just a little hock a bull crap. Now, actually what it does, maybe you may get to like one 20 on the pro or something. I can see that happening. But some that article, wherever it talked about the bottom, whether it has like
00:37:05
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ray tracing or more ray tracing two, three, whatever that was called.
Performance Modes in Games
00:37:13
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That's more along the lines of what we're going to see, which is right now you kind of have to make the decision on most games. If you want to play and usually it's an upscaled, if you're lucky, it'll just be 4K 60. It uses some sort of upscaled 4K 60, which is normal for most games and what most people play. Yep.
00:37:33
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or some games will have a really graphic heavy that is true 4k with all the ray tracing at 30 frames or you can do 4k 60 without ray tracing or you can do 1440 or 1080p at 120 frames with no ray tracing and if you're like the new spider-man game there's like 13 different options on hogwarts there's like
00:37:54
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eight different options, depending on if you're playing with VRR and all this crazy stuff. So, but for the most part, what the pro I assume is going to do is you're not going to have to compromise on a lot of these games. Like you can, but it'll be 4k.
00:38:12
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They were true 4K at a true 60 frames per second with all the ray tracing capability. Minimum. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I assume you're going to get. Now, depending on people, depending on developers of certain games, they may make other things that are. Yeah. Like Grand Theft Auto is upscaled 4K, no ray tracing, but you can play at 120 Hertz. That's going to look freaking good. If you don't want the ray tracing,
00:38:42
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or you just would rather have that. That's more along the lines of what we're looking at. We're not, 30 frames is already not even a conversation. The only reason they came up is because Starfield was only 30 frames, which is fine, but the fact that he came out and they're like, yes, no, we're never gonna update it to be 60 frames. And then some people are like, okay, well, that sucks for people that like. And this is why Starfield, what's the vampire game? It came out with a 30, that one. But at vampires, it was very like left for dead-ish, but it was 30 frames. Twilight.
00:39:12
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Maybe vampires. Yeah, you're right. Xbox game. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. The bite back game. Whatever that game is called. The one that flopped. Yeah. Redfall. Redfall. That's it. I honestly have never. There's a 60 frames mode for that mode for that game now, though. Is there? I honestly had heard so many people within the last few months say, man, Redfall is actually really good and
00:39:40
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Honestly, I really think that game doesn't flop if it's in 60 frames when it comes out. I think that was enough like to just turn some people off to it. And so I'm talking about that being the minimum give, give the option. Like I remember the spider man, like I remember miles Morales coming out. Yeah. I first booted it up. Okay. You want to play performance mode or fidelity? Like what do you want? And you know, you got to give people that option. It's the minimum nowadays.
00:40:08
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trying to see what uh the last of the it's funny to talk about frames like that because uh i think tomorrow is uh dragon's dogma too and on console it's like it's yeah they say it's uncapped but it's like barely even hitting 40 apparently and it gotcha and and like i personally have gotten to the point like i've said before on previous podcasts where like
00:40:33
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I think where we're at now, 60 should be minimum, period. I agree. I agree. And like, yeah, I don't know. For me personally, it's a little bit of a turn off. Like we talk about like the quarry being 30 frames, but that I feel is like a very cinematic experience. Like you're watching a show or a movie, but a game, yeah, game that like your hack and slash and whatever RPG action, whatever soccer or whatever. I think that should be. I agree.
00:41:02
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flowing and moving. Yep, I agree. I think there are games you can get away with it and it's actually fine. I think the cinematic games like the Cory Fran, if you're playing something like a, I don't even know if this is 30 or 60. I've played a ton of it, like city skylines that can, like, who cares? You're like, yeah, you're trying to load in tons of stuff. It's a menu kind of base. That doesn't really matter. But if you're talking about, like you said, quit moving first, third person,
00:41:25
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Yeah, that's just this it's the standard now and if you're not there then your game feels old even if it's not You know, yeah, and I hate to say that like I am one of those people that's at this point in in the the game industry We're like I'm kind of turned off by 30 frames per second. I Mean in most scenarios. I'm with you, man
00:41:48
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Like I know a lot of people are playing Rebirth now and they're like, oh, I have it on like whatever mode to make it look good. And I'm like, nah, man, I just want to move fast and it look clean. Um, but yeah, I'm, there's, there's for me, the thing that might be the bad with PS5 pros, which Sony is going to be releasing this thing.
00:42:15
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Is it the friendly Sony that came out PS4-wise? Or is it the corporate Sony that wants to just make this thing $600 when they could just make it $500 like they should? I mean, and they also – the leak, which –
00:42:32
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These leaks that come out are confirmed by everyone that knows anything or reports on PlayStation anyway. They're like, yeah, this is real. This is what it's going to be. So I tend to believe that all this is true. So. The leak is that it's no you can buy the disk drive. It is a diskless PS5. Yeah, that's why they have the.
00:42:55
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If that's the case, then just make the same 500 bucks. Like if you make this thing, 600, 550, I think it's 550 split difference. Sure. I mean, if you're going to call it, I think you're right. This is a premium product, right? And if that's the case, they're going to charge a little bit of a premium price because it's not for the every man. That's not their entry level machine, right? It is. Isn't that what they did with the pro anyways, the last one, the PS4.
00:43:25
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I don't remember something. I mean, it makes a lot of sense to me. Like if it's not 550, um, I think 600 is probably a little much and then 500 would surprise me at only being 500. So, all right. Right now the main, they also have the updated smaller versions are like the PS five. So they're pushing now. So the main one is 500 and the disc list one is 450. Um, but it does come with.
00:43:54
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either modern warfare three or Spider-Man two. So like you get a game out of it at least. I've never heard of either one of those games. Um, so if you come up with the pro and you knock the regular PlayStation down to 400 and the discless one down to three 50. Cause I mean, at some point they are going to drop the prices of these. They did it with PS4. Sure. Um, I have to go back and look.
00:44:21
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closer to when we get to time of like what they did with the PS4 pricing model when the pro came out. But yeah. Yeah. My either way, I'm going to want it simply because the games that I play like Overwatch, Apex. Sure. Fortnite, Rocket League.
00:44:38
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Hopefully Destiny, I don't think Destiny is going to really do anything with that. They got other things they're worried about right now. But like, like Apex just recently came out with their 120 frames patch finally after 8,000 years. But boy, does it look like you're playing on the switch when you're doing it. So. And you can play on the switch. You can kind of. Trust me, I've done it. Don't do it. The 120 frames on Fortnite looks really good, but this and Unreal Engine 5 and they did a bunch of magic because they can't.
00:45:07
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And then they went, but I mean, any game that I can play, I love, I love the ray tracing. If it's like a, this like a single player story based game, I'll probably just be like, just give me 4k. All the ray tracing is 60 frames.
00:45:19
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But if it's anything remotely competitive or a shooter, 4k one 20 would just make me so happy. Yeah. You can keep the rate tracing to yourself, but yeah, I'm happy with 60, 60. As long as it's 60, I can live with anything else. If there's anything above, that's a bonus. I kind of think, uh, just price-wise though, I think they're going to split the difference. I think five fifties, the pro. And I think they knock the other two down 50 bucks. Go for 450, 550 priced at
00:45:50
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launch ps4 price and release date announced thank you ijin so they're gonna give me the whole shabazz right here all right the ps4 pro came out november the 10th 2016
00:46:07
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Um, and also at the same time or no, no, no. Okay. September 15th, the PS4 slim came out November the 10th, the PS4 pro came out. So they came out within like what? Two and a half, three months. Yeah. I remember them being close together. Yeah. The slim was two 99. So 300 bucks and the pro was three 99. So 400 bucks. This is significantly more powerful. And even in comparison to what's on the market, then those were at the time.
00:46:38
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Yeah. So that's it. And then I also agree. I disagree with the people on my Twitter. They're like, oh, Xbox needs to have an answer. No, no, they don't. I think Xbox is doing the smart thing. What I heard on the sacred symbols podcast, which I agreed with months ago, which is they're not going to do a mid generation thing. When GTA comes out, they can say we have the cheapest option for you to play this game. Why would you not want to spend five hundred dollars? Like if you don't have a console, you're going to have to spend five hundred dollars.
00:47:08
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on a PS5 and buy the game at $70, $570 for you to play. Or between 500 and 600 bucks. Series S. Why would you come up with a more expensive premium version of your console that not enough people are buying right now? It doesn't make sense. And they may even drop the price of the Series S again, to be honest. Yeah, for sure. That'd be the best option. If the Series S was $150 when GTA VI came out, that'd be a big deal.
00:47:38
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buy a Series S brand new, maybe they even do a bundle with GTA six for like 250 bucks and be like for half the price of what it would cost you to play over there. You can play over here and it'll be 1080p at 60 frames, which is, if you don't have a console at all and you want to play Grand Theft Auto is probably fine. Yeah. Let me ask you that. Go ahead. Sorry. I was going to say, and then you come out with your new Xbox a year before PlayStation comes out with their new PlayStation.
00:48:08
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With a connect in the box. Two of them. Two connects in the box. Do you think that they could possibly drop PlayStation could drop their disk list PS4 to 400, come out with a pro at 550 and then just stop making the one with the disk and just keep selling the external disks. Right. Like it's just. Yeah, I could see that happening where they just stop.
00:48:37
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making the ones they have a cheap option. And then if you want the expensive option, you go get the pro. I mean, we'll see. There's really no telling what they're going to do. We'll see. It's a, I mean, they could come out and say this thing's six, six 50 and I would be like, of course you, of course you are. Now, if they wanted to make it premium premium, it's six 50 and it comes with.
00:49:00
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DualSense Edge, or like a new updated version of the DualSense Edge with a double the battery life. Here's a question. If it was 750 or 799 with VR2, would you buy it? No, absolutely not. I don't want that. Because it's a way cheaper way to get the VR2. They don't care about the thing at all. One of the stories where they stopped. That's a flop, bro.
00:49:23
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They stopped like production on it, apparently. Yeah. So they're not, they just had so many out there that haven't been bought. There's like, there's no reason to make this thing. I do. I do agree with you. If it's 600 and it comes with that controller, that's not a bad price at all. Yeah. They're not going to do that. I still want to know. I mean, it might be a good idea, but the PS2 PR two. Yeah.
00:49:44
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I think, in theory, it's a good idea, but if you're not going to support it at all, then it's a very bad idea. Well, they messed up. We've talked about it before. What they did was they took what people loved about the PSVR and what got people into the VR system, and they changed the game on them completely. The reason people bought the VR and the first VR was because it was like, oh, I can get into VR for this cheap.
00:50:09
Speaker
Like, this is the cheapest, easiest way to get in. I already have a PlayStation. And now it's like, well, we made it better, but you got to pay twice as much. It's like, well, the whole reason I was buying yours in the first place is because it was the cheap entry option. Yeah. They're like, you need to pay $500, but it's really good guys, but all your games that you bought currently, they don't carry over. So you had to buy them again. Yeah. I get, sorry. I guess that comment also, we're not going to also, we're not going to support or make games for it at all.
00:50:34
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Yeah, I guess that comment was more towards the portal. But like, yeah, I mean, I guess it was inevitable for the sequel to their headset to come out. But like, I don't know, it seemed like was the first one a success by any means? Yes. PSVR. Yeah, very much. They said anytime there is the higher ups. Yeah, anytime the higher ups talked about it, they're like, we sold way more than we ever thought we would.
00:50:57
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Cause I know what they're doing within the visor, I think is like cutting edge, right? Compared to like every other headset that's out now. So yeah, I think as far as like tech goes, I mean, between like PSVR two and even like Metaclass three, like it does have an upper hand. So yeah, sorry. That's towards the portal, not the headset. That comment, that comment. Yeah.
00:51:17
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But still, like, yeah, yeah, it's I mean, you're still right. This is a stupid decision. Like if you knew you're not going to support it, we're going to make a Horizon VR game and we're not going to make another first party game for this thing. Yeah, the first party stuff, I think if they would have focused on, they would have been pulling more people in for sure. At that point, just like hold off and make it wireless and make it a standalone product at that point. But yeah.
00:51:43
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Whatever. The last thing before we go, I want to talk about Destiny 2's Into the Light update. We got a stream a couple days ago, or I guess on Tuesday, we have another stream that's coming Tuesday, and then another stream the following Tuesday, and then the Into the Light thing will come out. But I'm not going to read this whole article. There's an article on Game Rant that talks about everything, but essentially what we got
Destiny 2: Onslaught Mode Introduction
00:52:07
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was Onslaught, which is a three player activity, free for everybody, no season pass required. The normal playlist features 10 waves, it's essentially a horde mode for you guys that didn't see it. Normal playlist features 10 waves, the challenge variant features five sets of 10 waves, which is 50.
00:52:25
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So it's possible to do, but impossible to complete according to devs. The higher tier challenge version requires a pre-made team. Other versions have matchmaking. One on-slot looks like Midtown, which is apparently there's going to be different maps, so don't worry about that. Shek serves as the announcer and vendor for on-slot. That's basically what we get out of the stream. There's going to be another public space. There's going to be new weapons, new armor, and all that kind of stuff that we'll, I think we're supposed to see this coming Tuesday.
00:52:53
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But we got our Horde mode. Andrew, what were your thoughts on the stream that we saw? Yeah, so yeah, almost a decade in now. I think it's a decade, I can't remember. But yeah, as an OG Gears fan, I've always loved Horde modes. So I was like, why hasn't Destiny done that? Why? So it's funny it's taken them this long. I'd say this is the first time in a long time I've been excited for something in the game.
00:53:18
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Sure, like before when lightfall came out. I was super hype obviously new content new plan, etc, etc, etc But in the last year I haven't been playing the game. This is the first time and like I said a while I've been super excited So yeah, like yeah, let's uh, I was actually
00:53:36
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talking about it last night but Gambit I think was the last original mode in the game so it's kind of cool that we now have what is this the fifth activity you can do in the game multiplayer associated activity in the game
00:53:53
Speaker
So I think it's activity. Yeah, exactly. So it's it's cool. Like we have like a new thing that they can like reiterate on new maps, new weapons, armor, etc. So it's really exciting. Like I said, it's the first time in a while I've been like really pulled in. So yeah, I mean, I'm excited. I don't know if I'm excited because of what it is or just that there's something new to do.
00:54:15
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I think for me it's what it is because I've wanted this for so long. Even with like ODST horde mode and stuff like that. Yeah exactly. Which they talked about on the stream like they look they learn from their past horde modes and other games stuff like that. Like this is something like if I have a fireteam like I'll just sit in it for hours on end like because I just I love that type of
00:54:38
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It's fun. It's something that would make me play because I hate all the other multiplayer. Like I don't like gambit. I don't like crucible. I would play this, though, for sure. I'm back. I'm back. Yeah. Yeah, I'm stoked for it. We talked about last week when it was just the Andrews doing our destiny pod. Like my favorite thing is just to wipe out. I want to be an ad clear. I want to play. I want to be an ad clear. So like this whole mode is is literally like
00:55:07
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Like in the stream he was, he was doing void, but I mean, let's be real. The stasis, like this is where stasis and strands going to live. Everything's going to be suspended and frozen constantly. You know, you get to buy your turrets and your other things, the way they explain that. We're not going to really know, know how good this hormone is until we get in there, you know, and play it and update stuff as we go. And they'll patch things and we'll make things, whatever. Cause like.
00:55:36
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if we're upgrading these turrets and these trip mines and whatever, like, how good are they really? Yeah, you know, like how we were, when we're when we have our build, and we have our cycle of what we're doing when we get going in these things, like, are these turrets and trip mines like really going to matter that much? Like, is it going to be worth it to do the extra stuff to get the extra scrap to upgrade your
00:56:00
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your robot dude and your, can I pop a well of radiance on a turret? So it doesn't die. Exactly. And is that even worth it? You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause like the way they were talking about, they're like, one of the questions during the stream was like, is it worth it to just spend all your scrap on just one turret and upgrading it to like max or is it better to have like three or four or like level one to go? Yeah. Well, if you're one can survive, then that would be great. And it's like, okay, well is it, is it going to survive?
00:56:30
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Is there ways where I can help it survive? There's still a lot of questions that we're not going to know until we're actually in their planet. Well, yeah, that's what's exciting to me is seeing the different strategies and how people are going to approach it and stuff like that. And what does the later waves look like? Is it all champions? Because that'd be kind of crazy. How hard is the challenge wave going to be? And are we going to be rewarded?
00:56:59
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What, what are our rewards going to be? Is it going to be nightfall? Is it going to be like grand master style rewards that we're getting where it's like every week there is a certain adept weapon you can get or you're going to get, you know, if it's double, you know, you're going to get your shards and all that kind of stuff. Like, which I think we're going to get Tuesday's is some of the weapons and rewards for doing things. So I still have a lot of questions, but I am excited to, to be, since we've been both been playing for like the last two weeks, like,
00:57:30
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I'm excited that us getting back into the swing of destiny is going to lead into this, which will. Yeah. Hopefully lead into the final shape, but is this also going to be a mode that like when a new season comes out, we all, I really like this mode. This is cool. But then like a month later, we're just going to be like, I mean, I'll play it, but I'll play strikes. I'll do strikes. Like I'll do gambit, but like.
00:57:57
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A lot of, a lot of the player bases talked about removing gambit. Like, do you think this succeeds and they just like pull gambit altogether? Or do you like, I'd be curious to see what the numbers are for people to actually still play gambit. I was about to say, it just depends on the player base. Yeah. I don't know.
00:58:14
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Hmm. I mean, the game may not exist. It may not be anything new after the next year. We'll see. I think this is in the right direction for pulling in vets and new people for sure. And I think the timing is is perfect, especially leading into the expansion coming. So.
00:58:34
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And all the other thing, the other question I've had was how long has this been in development? And I wonder if they will, I don't think Bungie ever talks about specifics like that, but I would like to know how long this has been in development. So yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Like I said, I haven't played in a hot minute, but I'd get back into play this for sure. So that's what's up. We better get your builds going. We're going all, we're going to the.
00:59:00
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And speaking of, since we're an hour and I assume about to close, there's actually one more game that I've been playing recently that I've just gotten back into. And I wish that it came out when I lived in Boston in the first place, because I would have been all over it. I've been playing some more Pokemon Go recently. Pokemon Go. Because let me tell you, when you live in Boston, there are things everywhere. There's always stuff. And it's really fun. So I'm actually kind of curious. And I bet there's some cool stuff that goes on at PAX tomorrow. Pokemon Go is because Nintendo is always there.
00:59:30
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You got to Pokemon go to packs and find out. I will Pokemon go to packs. All right. Any final thoughts before we end out this pod? Where's the Pokemon destiny crossover?
00:59:51
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Nintendo collabing with Sony to do a crossover event in a destiny. That's pretty crazy. That's pretty crazy. We have the cowboy bebop crossover and overwatch happening. I did see that. Yeah. Hashtag. Yeah. They'd be bopping around.
01:00:11
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I mean, we did have Overwatch update developer update this last week, would they? And that's basically what it should always be because it's a free to play game, but all the characters are now free and they're all new characters are going to be free for everybody.
01:00:27
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uh you're gonna be able to you're gonna be able to pick which so the way battle passes work is at the the last level it's like the mythic skin for that character for that thing you'll now be able to just choose which mythic skin you want to go for rather than being like oh i don't play this character so i'm not gonna yeah pass yeah that's cool
01:00:47
Speaker
Okay. Um, there's also a new map and new character. I think the new character is this season, season 10 that comes, that starts on Tuesday. New damage character. So good luck. So I'll never play damage. Yeah. So we'll never be able to match for damage. You have one chance of playing damage and that is get in a group of five people and select it. Exactly. Five people in the same party. And y'all, y'all know that you're playing. That's all your chance. That's your chance. Otherwise it is click on damage and go grab launch.
01:01:17
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Yeah. So yeah, I mean, similar to some other game, live service games right now, I think Overwatch
01:01:28
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is doing all of the right things. It's just, and it's going to be enough to get it back to its glory days, you know? But the people, since, since Xbox bought Blizzard, it's obvious that they were like, there's some things that need to change. So whether this, I'm sure this stuff has been in the works for a while, but
01:01:48
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Well, um, there was also an element too, to all the blizzard activation stuff that was kind of in stasis for a bit while the merger was going through. And so little behind on some things and take, you know, there's just a, there's just some time there where the work didn't get done as quickly as others, as it normally would. So.
01:02:07
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