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Introduction and Nicknames
00:00:13
Speaker
What's up everybody welcome to the logon games podcast for Friday March the 15th
00:00:23
Speaker
uh on this episode you get the andrews the wet one and the hard one you know that's what they call us it sounds worth saying a hard versus solid but sure you know well we're all with that i guess i always still get a little bit confused when but you know we all we're here
00:00:46
Speaker
We're doing it. I think what is it there? I guess because I've been friends with them first, I'm solid in your liquid. Is that how it works? I mean, sure. I'm always a little wet, you know.
Destiny Game News
00:01:03
Speaker
uh we're gonna be talking about destiny on the podcast so if you hate that game get out no i'm just kidding um but uh yeah there's we're in that time andrew where it's like it's the spring time may and june like we just got summer games officially uh announced for june the seventh
00:01:24
Speaker
So it's like that time where no one's saying anything because they're either saving it or it's like already coming out like now. Yeah, for sure. But very interesting enough, we've been playing Destiny the last week because I've seen you on and it's been a while since we've been on. So I thought we'd talk about Destiny. We also got some Destiny news today with Into the Light. And you know what, maybe we'll just title the episode
00:01:49
Speaker
how we fixed Destiny, how we fixed it, how we fixed the game. And we'll just tell everybody what needs to be fixed, you know? Or how the OG's feel in 2024. I'm always like, I was on my YouTube a couple of days ago and it came across like Destiny one player, I placed Destiny two for the first time or whatever. And I was like, oh yeah, that's what's up. Really? Wow. I'd be curious to see that. It wasn't me today.
00:02:19
Speaker
His name is also Andrew because it's the best name ever. You can find him in the city. We have Andrew with us on the podcast. At Brown Berserker. How's it going? Chilling, dude.
00:02:42
Speaker
It's been a weird couple of weeks. Uh, so, uh, people probably don't know, um, I dog walk for a full time and, uh, it is 70 degrees today. Like, yes. 80 here.
Dog Walking Tales
00:02:54
Speaker
Like WTF it is 70 degrees. So it's been a, it's been a roller coaster of, uh, weather, uh, on my side. What's the weirdest or rarest dog breed that you have walked?
00:03:10
Speaker
So what's funny is I feel like my own personal dogs are more rare than the dogs I walk. Strangely enough, a lot of people have like these, it's kind of like a poodle mix. I can't remember the name of the breed, but like they're, I don't know. You start to see like a kind of sort of doodle. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's like lanky doodly looking dogs. Cute, great personalities, but it's funny how like,
00:03:36
Speaker
how many people want the same dog? Like, you know, to each their own, you know, you like your breeds and you have your reasons for clicking with certain breeds. But like, you know, not to toot my own horn, like my own pups are so unique that people will literally stop in the middle of the road driving and they would be like,
00:03:54
Speaker
Whoa. That's not a doodle. What type of dog is that? And is that dog a husky? And I'm like, no, actually, he's not a husky, but he's like a miniature husky. And like, so it's interesting. But yeah, I wouldn't say I walk anything rare, per se, compared to my own personal. When you get to the rich parts of Atlanta, you just like drive to the rich neighborhoods. Every dog is some form of doodle.
00:04:19
Speaker
Every single one without fail. Okay, so then maybe that is the thing maybe that's like oh you have money you need to get a couple doodles Yeah, because uh there yeah, there's definitely some like uh neighborhoods I go in and the house is f3 car garages and it's just like whoa And yeah, it's like a lot of the same breeds. So it's a lot of doodles. Yeah, and then And then we have uh, um, mutt
00:04:45
Speaker
It's really funny. My brother's dog that we took when he moved to Boston. I don't remember exactly what he is a mix between, but he looks like he looks like a like German shepherd colors, but in a corgi body. That's what he looks like. Oh, that sounds cool. He is got to send me a pick after that's cool.
00:05:05
Speaker
He's an absolute mess. And then our dog that we've had forever, let's say forever, like six years, is like a beagle spaniel mix. So he's essentially a beagle, just like with longer hair. I respect, I actually grew up with a beagle. So that's awesome. Yeah, he's swell. He's swell.
00:05:24
Speaker
Right now, our new house, our neighbors for the backyard, they have a staffy or a pit bull or something. It's like super nice dog. It doesn't get anything. I'm not worried about that dog. I'm worried about our dogs. Our dogs see is anything that moves and just bolts to it. But at least it's fenced in so like they can't do anything. But so are you are you talking about moving in like a playful way like so? No, I don't. We've never
00:05:52
Speaker
figured it out. They've never caught whatever they chased. Yeah. My dogs are prey driven, so they see birds and squirrels. They lose a frigging mind.
00:06:02
Speaker
We have a ton of cats around here so like every time we take them out to use the bathroom now there's usually a cat like uh on top of the fence and I just freaking take off towards it and I lied my our beagle dog caught a possum one time and just destroyed it oh god it was a night it was a night full of baths yeah I hope so and digging
00:06:23
Speaker
And drinking a bottle of Listerine. Yeah. Yes. But we had dinner for a week, you know what I mean? No, I'm just kidding. There you go. There you go.
Podcast and TikTok Frustrations
00:06:34
Speaker
We welcome everybody to the Log On Games Podcast. It's a weekly show in which we discuss a variety of new games.
00:06:41
Speaker
Big announcements events and more new episodes upload every Friday. You can watch this at youtube.com slash at log on games You can follow us at log on games on x facebook instagram tick tock threads wherever it is that you Want to do that on I'm also a bone to pick with tick tock I'm not a political person at all. Like I'm the person that's like I don't even care who our precedent is. Just whoever wants to take over just do it. Whatever
00:07:11
Speaker
Um, that's how like, I'm laughing with them the same way. But since I guess they have like, there is, they're either like trying to ban TikTok or they're trying to get TikTok sold. So I guess like Congress or somebody passed some bill that TikTok might be banned if something doesn't happen or whatever. Every other TikTok is like another like political person, like talking right to the camera, being like, this is what's going on. It's like,
00:07:38
Speaker
I understand that it's TikTok, but I don't follow any political people. I don't watch any political stuff. So the fact that now I'm getting out, I'm just like, cause you can like click the thing and be like, I don't want to see this anymore. And I just keep clicking it and it doesn't even matter. And I was like, this is stupid.
00:07:56
Speaker
So that's my bone to pick. So don't even follow us on TikTok. You know, don't even go on that site anymore. I actually don't even use TikTok. Old news, man. Old news. I use it like Google now, or like a quicker version of YouTube. Like I was making a soup the other day, and I was like, how am I supposed to blend this thing? I could go on YouTube and watch this whole thing, but I just went on TikTok and searched and watched like five videos. And then I made the best tomato bisque soup you've ever had.
00:08:21
Speaker
Okay, so let me ask you, like, if I have tomato soup, I have to have a grilled cheese with it. Is that, that's just from, I think from like elementary school, right? Like I just have to have a grilled cheese with like my tomato soup. So I'm a big soup guy. Even in summer? At any time, all the time. Really? Okay. It's really funny because, I mean, I am, I'm not, I wouldn't call myself cheap, but I do go looking for deals.
00:08:47
Speaker
So like, for example, we had our, my wife and I's six year anniversary last weekend. We went to the vortex in Atlanta, normal restaurant, normal food. I would say probably like 10 to $20 per person, depending on what you want.
00:09:07
Speaker
But I sit down and I see there that they have a tomato bisque. And I'm a big tomato bisque. And it's like, the soup's always like dirt cheap. It's like $4 for a big old bowl. And I'm just like, you know what? I don't even care. That's what I want. That's what I want. Okay.
00:09:23
Speaker
But I have to have like a chunk of bread. Like it looks like I'm a Viking and I just rip it and dip it, you know? And then I just go raid villages afterwards. It's great. I want to feel like I'm about to go raid a village and I really need to get my energy.
00:09:39
Speaker
Okay, so it's why do you say that because like I'm thinking about the people that would like just destroy a village and pillage and all that and I just see them with like a Hunking drumstick of meat just tearing it covered in fur and here's all Andrew with bread dipping in soup. I'm like
00:09:59
Speaker
It's always like some sort of soup or stew, you know, sometimes chugging meat in the stew. And, you know, it's just like they got it all over their beard. You know, it's always like dripping down their beard. That's a beer. They got a spoon.
00:10:17
Speaker
I don't use spoons when I eat soup. I only use bread. That's fair. There's something to scoop and dip. I do a spoon to like stir it. And then I just throw the spoon in the sink at the waiter. Yeah. Get this out of here. I don't want this.
00:10:32
Speaker
The funniest thing is when you're at like a diner and you get a soup and they give you like two Little tiny packages of saltine crackers. Oh, listen, you're gonna need to bring the whole Yeah, two's not gonna do anything like so like I went to Wendy's recently and I got their chili
00:10:51
Speaker
and even that small chili two two packets of crackers is not enough for me not enough absolutely not yep um let's talk some veggie game action all right uh about i guess it wasn't two hours ago but it was like two hours ago when i saw it but earlier this morning
00:11:12
Speaker
Well, I guess it's Pacific time. This was written at 10 AM Pacific
Destiny Updates and Hopes
00:11:16
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time. So here on the East coast, that's what two o'clock. Sure. One o'clock time like that. Sure. Um, destiny slash bungee put out a whole shtick this Thursday, their normal little, uh, 12 and gave us some news, but the big news out of it was into the light. Talked about briefly a couple of weeks ago.
00:11:41
Speaker
but I'm reading this from gamespot.com. Destiny 2's final season is also its longest, but players can look forward to new content before the arrival of the Final Shape expansion in June. Developer Bungie has officially announced that Into the Light will launch on April the 9th alongside Update 7.3.6, adding new story content throughout April and May that paves the way for the final chapter
00:12:09
Speaker
in the light and darkness saga beyond that bungee is keeping quiet and what players can expect to see but the new key art for into the light does tease another showdown with the hive possibly in what appears to be uh the midtown pvp map set inside the last city the new update will also deliver further tuning to destiny 2 and quality life of life updates and bungee says it'll provide more details in separate live streams starting next week on its twitch channel
00:12:37
Speaker
Players can also earn the Those Held Dear emblem by watching live stream for at least 30 minutes and watching for two hours in total will unlock the Echo Diamond emblem. Live stream number one will be this coming Tuesday, March 19th at 10 a.m. Pacific time, which is 1 p.m. Eastern time. For all these dates, that's the time they're doing it on March 19th, March 26th, and April the 2nd.
00:13:05
Speaker
Andrew, what in the heck do you think this is going to be? Um,
00:13:16
Speaker
I don't know, but I'm hoping that it's a much bigger surprise than we think. I hope it's not just some basic filler thing. I, for one, have been talking about how I want some new content. Let's get creative and actually make something different. I hope that this is that.
00:13:40
Speaker
And I don't know if this was developed last year. I don't know if they developed this two months ago. But I'm hoping it's some sort of like exciting refresh to pull people back in. And by pulling people back in, hopefully they can keep us there until that expansion. And then, you know, get that snowball rolling. That's my biggest question slash concern is like, when and how was this made?
00:14:08
Speaker
Like you delayed the final shape because you needed to work on the final shape, but then you decided to work on this. So it's a little confusing. Or was it just like, was this something that was like 50% done? And when you delayed the final shape, you're like, you know what? We can allocate some people to like make this into something that we can put out before the final shape. I don't know.
00:14:34
Speaker
So I'm gonna say two things though, like the key art actually catches my eye. I like the armor and the weapons in there. Something I'm noticing is it looks like a Vanguard turret. Yeah. If this, okay, I've been saying this for the longest time. If they're finally putting a horde mode in, your boy is gonna be playing. I'm telling you right now, if there is a horde mode, if this is a horde mode of some sort,
00:15:03
Speaker
We're in. I am in, boy. I'm telling you. We love a horde mode. So this is the first key art that's definitely getting my mind stirring. And like I said, the the armor in this is really cool. So I, you know, I've taken the bait. We'll see. I've taken the bait. Realistically, in my mind, in my brain, if I'm just like trying not to get my hopes up. Because my hopes would be.
00:15:30
Speaker
Horde mode or something like that, like kind of like dares of eternity, something similar to that, where it's like a permanent mode. That's fun.
00:15:47
Speaker
that over the course from I guess April 9th, when it comes out until the final shape, similar to how strikes are, it's like, when it comes out, these are the rewards. This is the difficulty. Maybe two, three weeks later, there's the harder difficulty, more rewards, all the way leading up to the final shape, which is like, you know, two weeks before we have like, whatever the grand master version of this would be with like,
00:16:11
Speaker
some sick rewards, which I assume there's some leaks and some rumors and they're mostly like returning weapons that we don't have anymore. So that would be understandable, which means like they didn't have to put that much work in and just bringing old weapons back. They kind of just had to like tune them up. Yeah. Um, they didn't have to create anything fresh, which would make more sense since they're supposed to be working on the final shape. But if I'm being realistic, I'm thinking.
00:16:41
Speaker
Something along the lines of what an activity would be for like a season, like a seasonal activity kind of thing. And it's just like that with some new rewards. I feel like it's probably what we're going to get, but I do hope it's much better. I hope I'm surprised. I hope it's some sort of hoard mode. There's rumors that it's going to be like.
00:17:06
Speaker
We're going to be going to past planets and past levels, I guess, on said planets and doing some, some things here and there, but we won't know for sure till this Tuesday, uh, April the ninth. So, uh, yeah, we got a minute till then. Yeah. Yeah. We got a minute. Um,
00:17:32
Speaker
But at least it's something, you know, they did do the 30th anniversary stuff, which was kind of like similar. I know I've seen some YouTube videos already. They were like, this is something they never done before. I was like, there's the fraternity was pretty much a filler before a expansion, but it was also paid for. Whereas this is going to be free for everybody. So that's good news. That being said, we've both been playing destiny recently.
00:18:03
Speaker
How you been? I went on a rant the other night, obviously, about what I've typically gone on about the Taco Bell effect, taking the same ingredients, making new stuff. I just found out the other night that unless you unlock the exotic skimmer board, I'll call it a skimmer. I don't know what it's called, hover board. Yeah, skimmer.
00:18:29
Speaker
You don't get that hoverboard again. The white one that's in your inventory now is only for the quest to get the exotic. I was content on having my white basic hoverboard. And now I'm like, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like I have to grind for this? You got to grind for it. You got to watch those Twitch streamers for two hours and get those, those little diamond things you can shove in there.
00:18:56
Speaker
Oh, there's actually a connection between that. I didn't know about that. So if you watch a Twitch streamer that has drops enabled for two hours, you can get one per week. So I guess I don't know how many weeks are left in it. You can get one this week and one next week and then one the next maybe. Is it going for four weeks? Who knows. But you will get a diamond medallion or whatever to put in, which I think
00:19:21
Speaker
It's like 300 medals or something like that towards that skimmer. OK, yeah, because I don't know what it entails to get it, to be honest. Otherwise, you just got to play the freaking game modes like an insane amount and just get OK. So you're saying for three weeks, as long as I watch for two hours per week, I can get the exotic. I don't know. I don't know how long the the event goes on for. OK. I know you need like twelve hundred.
Destiny Gameplay and Builds
00:19:50
Speaker
Medallions or whatever and I've Turned in two of those and I'm at like 700 something but both of those were like off to log in and check them Okay, or you can just buy it, you know Can you yeah, you can buy it? It has the Yeah, it comes with all the or a version of it. I think it looks different comes with like the Armor set or whatever bundle. Okay
00:20:19
Speaker
But I don't, the people, there's been other people, uh, destiny content creators and such are like, you need to do this or you won't get it. They're going to have more. I feel like the final shape drops a hundred percent. Yeah. There's a bajillion sparrows. I just assume now there's going to be a lot of skimmers as well. So it's like, it's not like you're not going to have one for the next year or whatever.
00:20:44
Speaker
But if you want this one for sure, yeah, you got to do all this bull crap. I'm waiting for the Halloween one. Sorry. I'm just going to wait for the Halloween one. I've been, um, slowly getting addicted to, to destiny again. Ooh. And I think it might, I think it's about the right time. Midway through March, slowly get addicted to it. And then hopefully this thing in a beginning of April.
00:21:10
Speaker
is good. What is it exactly that's resparking for you? So I'm still like only halfway done with this seasonal stuff. I've been waiting to do it with the other guy, a friend of mine that I was doing it with. But I'm kind of at the point where I just want to do it and finish it. Yeah, because
00:21:35
Speaker
all the like wish stuff. And like, I really want to get the apex rocket launcher, but I can't do it because I'm like waiting to finish the seasonal stuff to even unlock that part yet. So kind of want to do that so I can get that going. But I've also been dabbling in builds. Okay. In preparation, which is something I know I said a couple podcasts that I didn't want to do. But I'm sucked in. And so I started doing it again.
00:22:04
Speaker
So you never have before, or this is? No, just like, I was like, if I do build now, by the time the final shape comes out, these builds might suck, you know, and then I have to redo them all over again. Or at least update them, you know. Well, so like, let me put you on pause there. So because of their new update on their mod system, there are builds out there that only run off of those default mods. So you can actually secure a lot of good builds.
00:22:34
Speaker
that don't require seasonal mods at all, so. Yeah, I mean, I would say I have two or three builds that I've had for years that, you know, yeah, don't really change that much, like freaking solar locks where you just chunk nades everywhere. I love this. All it has always been good. And I still use it. It's still it. Yeah. But the two new ones I did was like the Polaris Lance build, which is mainly for this season because of the mods and stuff like that.
00:23:01
Speaker
Um, and then I do, I have like a full support bill that I made as well with, I forget the name of the helmet, the biggest, ugly, nasty looking warlock helmet. They have to use tracer raffles for.
00:23:14
Speaker
OK. Essentially to just give everybody heavy ammo and heal grenades and restoration and everything for like content like that. Yeah. So I have those. But then I also have other I mean, all my build slots have been maxed out for quite some time now. So now it's just like, OK, which one's old and not worth it anymore? Yeah. Let's replace this with something else. So let me ask you, what is your what is your favorite like warlock build?
00:23:44
Speaker
Or subclass, we'll say. My favorite subclass is arc, but I like never use it hardly because like right now, just everything solar. Like you go into anything. I need a warlock. Well, I need a warlock. Well, I need a, I need a well. So I'm just like always in solar.
00:24:02
Speaker
I've been doing a lot of raids this last week, Andrew, and everybody's looking for a warlock. Well, let me tell you, so that's what I do. Um, but if I could just choose anything, it would be arc. It's the most fun. I, my favorite part of destiny, my favorite part of being a warlock and.
00:24:22
Speaker
is being arc and just wiping out ads. Just let me wipe out ads. You know, let me see just everybody's overwhelmed. There's too many ads and let me wipe out the whole room in like three seconds with my Arcanist. That's my part of this. That's what's up.
00:24:40
Speaker
Is it, am I great against the bosses when I do that? No. But y'all can take care of the bosses. I'll take care of everything else. Y'all can concentrate on the bosses. Well no, that's why you have at least, you know, one good weapon for DPS. You're alright. Yeah. That's like my most fun thing to do. I just like really get to play Ark. My one Ark build that I have now, because I deleted one yesterday.
00:25:01
Speaker
is the whatever the arc trace rifle is it's just ionic traces for days essentially so like i just always have arc souls out for everybody and ionic traces come into me 24 seven and it's just like constant and it's really fun what is the um
00:25:25
Speaker
No, it's not getaway artists. There's the one Warlock one where you consume the nade and you can get a buddy.
00:25:34
Speaker
Yeah. So what you do is you have like, you consume the nade, you get a little support buddy, you throw down the rift, you get another support buddy. And then there's the pulse rifle where after so many kills, another buddy appears. So you can have like three up at the same time. Three buddies. Yeah, it's sick.
00:25:55
Speaker
Yeah. So I mean, I've been doing that. I've been trying to. This is going to sound weird, but it's just the way it is. I've been trying to beat raid bosses without playing the whole raids, just to try and get a drop of some sort. You know, I don't have any I don't have any raid. It's called parties at all. I don't have a single raid exotic from any of the raids in Destiny 2. And I want.
00:26:25
Speaker
one just to say you have or is there like one you're actually going for? So I want Vex Mythoclast like it was my favorite or one of my favorite weapons from D1 and I really wanted D2 and now I know it recently got buffed so I want it even harder but the weapon that I want the most is the
00:26:47
Speaker
void machine gun from the Europa raid whichever one that one is which i've never played before oh dude okay you know it's funny i got that gun
00:27:02
Speaker
I think I fired it once and it's just been on my vault. Well, the reason I want slash need it is the void build that I have that's really good that I love with a passion. It's the one where you just shove out the little void soul things and it like weakens everybody and I can have like 50 of them out there.
00:27:21
Speaker
Yep. That machine gun has repulsor brace, which is like if you're shooting someone that's being weakened, you get all this crap, all the good stuff happening. Yeah. And I have other things that have that and they're fine, but I need that machine gun. They need trading, man. I would just give it to you. Right? Straight up. And it only drops from the boss of that raid.
00:27:51
Speaker
So I learned how to do the boss of that raid and I've done it like three times and I've gotten the sword all three times. And it's like, and that's not even an exotic. It's just a normal freaking legendary. What rate is that? Oh, is that deep stone crap? Yes. Yeah. Deep stone. So, but as of last night, I'm like, you know what? I know I can do all the, I need to do some of these challenges so I can get better chances at the exotic at the end. So I've been trying to go through.
00:28:18
Speaker
full rates with people, but I'm really just kind of doing the ones that I know well. That's fair. I can get that. It's been fun. I've been having a good old time. I want to play Final Fantasy XVI, but this always happens. Anytime I get back into Destiny, I'm always playing another game, and then Destiny happens. I'm like, all right. And I'll sit down and be like, I should finish Final Fantasy XVI.
00:28:46
Speaker
But I want to do some builds or I want to let me just see who's at the boss of this raid. I can jump in and just beat it real quick. I just want to say that I am envious. I've been having fun socially playing it. All I've been doing is grandmasters. So like end game content. I like strategic play. Like that's the funnest stuff to me. But I haven't got that bug to just log on and just play by myself.
00:29:10
Speaker
I've I've uh, I spent like two hours the other night just like clearing out my my inventory because it was maxed out And I find that very like therapeutic. It's it's weird I like just putting on music and just like I don't need this role. I don't need this role I don't just kind of like clean up, you know, like i've enjoyed that but uh, I haven't got the bug yet. Uh, I I want it. I really do But it wants the bug. I want the bug but you know
00:29:35
Speaker
Okay. So we have into the light. And then on April 9th, that's supposed to do add new content through April and May. Yeah. And then we had the final shape on June 7th. Right. Yes. If you, if we're trying to be realistic here,
00:29:57
Speaker
What would you, and obviously whatever, it's not like they're working, whatever they're working on now, they're probably like finishing and polishing at this point. So it's not that they can go and change major things, but in order to get players back, in order to get players excited, in order to get pre-orders up for the final shape, what would they have to do between now and then to do any of those things?
00:30:27
Speaker
Um, so this into the light thing I think is a good start. Um, especially if they showcase what it's actually going to be, and it's actually going to give us something brand new.
00:30:40
Speaker
Uh, it said brand new, but what does that mean? You know, so yeah, like new armor new weapons, hopefully not refreshes, which is going to be unfortunately, but like some, like, like I said, some new gameplay loop, like we were saying, like, uh, destiny hasn't had a true hoard mode, uh, as, um, gear veterans. I think I would, I personally would love that even, um, wow. I'm going blank. What's the halo one?
00:31:04
Speaker
Uh, ODST ODST. Yeah. Like horde modes are fun. Like, you know, just, you can just sit in there and just stay in there as long as you want. And like the further you get in, you could get better rewards. But yeah, let's, I'm hoping this into the light thing, uh, alone is enough to pull people in, but it's like you said.
00:31:22
Speaker
So this comes out, what, April, May, June? That means whatever content- Essentially two full months from when this comes out. Yeah, whatever that is has to be enough to hold people for that long.
00:31:35
Speaker
And then the other thing I was thinking of for them to pull people back or get a new fan base in is, um, I think it was one weekend. They had every expansion for free to play. That would be really cool. Or they go on like some big, huge sale and it's like, get the whole destiny bundle dumb cheap. So yeah, either free to play weekend or weekends.
00:31:58
Speaker
discount the crap out of everything and or we are just relying on this into the light thing to hold us and pull us back in. I mean they'll never do this but what would be great is to have all the expansions for free for like a week and then the final two days of that week you know they love their pop-ups when you sign in
00:32:25
Speaker
Just have one being like, you can, you know, this ends in two days. You can buy all the expansions right now for like $10 or something that is just like crazy cheap. Yeah. No, that's actually a, that's actually a brilliant setup, honestly. And then, and then that gets new players in and old players that are wanting to get it towards the final shape, ready to go. And honestly, that gives people like us things to do because we'll have friends that new friends that come in and play and we can play through with them.
00:32:55
Speaker
But I agree. I hope it's a horde mode. Oh, please. So for me, for me without the bug, I've always been that player that even if I'm not into Destiny, like Carlos recently, it was like, hey, you want to run GMs? I'm like, sure. Like I'll hop on and help people. I don't I don't care. So like that's like that's been an easy way to get me to play again. And running GMs lately has been fun. So that that little gameplay loop alone has been like,
00:33:24
Speaker
I mean, it's fun. I'm missing it. You know, maybe I should refresh my builds. And like I did spend time, um, doing a build so I could run GMs better. And that also in that process and clearing up my vault, you know, there are little trickles of just like, okay, this is fun. And I still want to do all of the raids full because they're still like, there's still two or three that I haven't done.
00:33:54
Speaker
Um, but I want to do them all fully how they're intended to be done. Like I said, you have two bodies. If you need them, you have two bodies. Just let girls. And I know I think, I mean, I think, I don't think we'll have a problem getting people together with between people. That's in like our clan and Mike. I don't care how long it takes. I just, I like to see people experiencing, uh, that type of content for the first time. Uh, Carlos and I have done blind runs with people where we're like, we're just going to shut up.
00:34:22
Speaker
And when you're when you have given up, we'll give you clues or we'll tell you what to do. Yeah. So but I still want to do all that. So there's still there's still time. So for me personally, I think there's there's kind of plenty to do because I need to finish the seasonal stuff. And then probably once that's finished, into the light will be out. And then once we get bored of that, three days later, I can start doing all the raids up until the front of James.
Destiny's Future and Bungie's Influence
00:34:50
Speaker
You know, it's been my problem. So like, um, I don't know what, so your chase right now is just catching up, right? And redoing your builds. So every time a season comes out, they're like, Oh, you got to get this rocket launcher or this grenade launcher. Cause it's like the meta, right? I used to be that person that chased for that, but what would happen is I would, I would grind out for a week.
00:35:15
Speaker
I would get the God roll. The next season would come around and it's irrelevant. And I'm just like, okay. So like I have the God roll sniper, God roll rocket, God roll grenade launcher, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So like right now they can tell me that there's a God roll grenade launcher. And I'm like, I guarantee you, I probably have an old one that's maybe close to what you guys are talking about. Exactly. Yeah. So I need like, I miss that chase.
00:35:44
Speaker
But like I've been burned too much to where you're going to tell me to chase for this, but it's probably not going to be like relevant in like two months. So it's like, yeah. Yeah. But it might be relevant in six months again. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Well, depending on how they do episodes, I know like with the seasons, it's always been like, there's been two burns that are.
00:36:06
Speaker
the meta for that season or whatever. Okay. And then the next season, you know, it's Arcan solar now and then the next season it's Stasis and Strand, whatever. So I don't know how that's going to work with the episodes. They're going to keep doing that or if they're going to kind of just be done with doing that. And then it's just like kind of proactivity or whatever, but.
00:36:26
Speaker
So no joke, earlier you talked about how you made a build around Polaris Lance. And for people watching, that's like, it's a scout rifle, but it has like this really cool, this effect or whatever this thing. Yeah. And then the seasonal mods make it like way better too. Yeah. So like this single weapon, I feel like wasn't relevant like many, many years ago. It just like in the last like, I don't know, last few seasons it's become like super powerful.
00:36:54
Speaker
No joke. I am just that gun alone and using a build around that one gun has excited me. Yeah. One gun that I've been ignoring for years, playing with it, with its synergy in the build has been so much fun. And I'm like, this is what I'm missing. The problem though is next season, it'll still be good. It just won't be as good.
00:37:19
Speaker
Okay, let me ask you this. Have you used that gun in a fire team? Who's also using that gun? No, bro. I don't think so. You want to see a health bar getting chunked? Yeah. Get three people use that. Carlos and I will run it. Well, we were doing GMs with another guy. He wasn't using it, but Carlos and I were doing it. Carlos and I alone were chunking champs. Chunking champs. I'm down. I haven't done any GMs. It's so sick, dude.
00:37:50
Speaker
at all. So you're stronger than me, so you'll be fine. I don't know. I don't know if I am. I think I'm like 18, 18 or something like that's about where I am. Okay. Depending on what build is 18, 19, 18, 20, something like that. Yeah.
00:38:10
Speaker
Um, but yeah, we will see what into the light is going to do on this Tuesday. I'm hoping I would, I'm praying for a hoard mode. I mean, it would, this is not going to happen. Well, not this Tuesday. You said April, right? April. Um, this Tuesday, March 19th, they're doing a stream that kind of is like showing it off. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. April the ninth is when it comes out. Um, yeah. But would be cool.
00:38:38
Speaker
If this is not going to happen again, I'm just going to say it. I'm just going to say it. It's going to put it out there. It would be cool if the, if a new subclass came out now so that they didn't, so that they didn't have to force it upon us. The whole story of the final shape. If they were going to do one, I know they didn't, they say, they didn't say they were going to do one.
00:39:09
Speaker
But if they were going to do one, do we really want it to be like a light fall where you're just forced to use it the whole time or like when Stasis came out, it's like, guess what? You have to use this even if you don't like it. And even if you do like it, we're gonna make you only use this and nothing else. Be nice for it to just come out April the 9th or the beginning of May or whatever. Let us use it. Let us play with it. Let us build things with it.
00:39:37
Speaker
all the way till the final shape comes out, so when the final shape comes out, we already have our builds, we already have our stuff ready to go, and you don't have to sacrifice story elements to force upon a subclass. All right, so I don't mean to like- Spike the fairy!
00:39:51
Speaker
No, I don't mean to burst in your parade. I have a higher chance of landing a date with Sydney Sweeney before that happens. Why is she wearing the costume? It's not going to happen. I said it's not going to happen. I know. But if they would have just asked me, you know, eight months ago,
00:40:16
Speaker
do that so we don't have to like, you know, you're about to fight the witness, I'll make sure you get the subclass or your grenades not gonna work. And you're like, okay, fine. Okay. You just said something that I wanted them to do so bad. They teased this in the vanilla campaign for D2. Remember when we lost the light? Yeah. Put me through a campaign where 80% of that campaign, I don't have any of my powers.
00:40:46
Speaker
please let's go let's go just weapons baby just weapons let's go halo yeah i'm down i mean they're not going to do it but i'd be down
00:40:59
Speaker
Because you know like there may be sections of it But I like games where like, you know You you start out like godlike and then they strip you down and you work your way back up and I really really was hoping in that d2 campaign that we it was gonna take us a while to get that light back and we were just going like OG Spartans with our with our guns and our grenades That's what I want music. That's what I mean it
00:41:24
Speaker
The way they talked about the final shape when they did their stream was like, the closer you get to the witnesses, like headquarters, weird things start happening. So it could just be like, as we play the campaign, we start losing things. We turn into like Looney Tunes characters. By the time we get to the witness, we just don't have like any abilities like at all. It's just a boxing match. You just, you just start like the third or fourth mission and it's like, you don't have arc anymore. Sorry.
00:41:49
Speaker
And you're like, why, why? And everybody's on Twitter, like freaking final shapes bugged out won't let me use arc. And then like episode or like mission five or six, you lose void. And you're like freaking bugged out again, man. I can't use my stuff. Or what if like the, the like final mission is like, you're in this like arena with the witness and he pulls out like a hoverboard and you have to play skate with him. Yeah. It's a skimmer contest. Yeah.
00:42:16
Speaker
Like who can do the longest manual? That's the winner. They managed to land like offspring to like do the music for it. Yep. That'd be sick. It'd be the best boss ever. Oh my gosh. Turns out the witness is just the most baller skater of all time. He's a bald Tony Hawk. He is Tony Hawk. He is Tony Hawk. He reveals himself to be Tony Hawk. And then, and then after his hair, there's a trailer for the new Tony Hawk game made by Bungie.
00:42:48
Speaker
The industry would just like explode smart those are smart moves right there Um Yeah, any final thoughts maybe this will this will be a little shorter one Uh destiny only one because that's who we are I'm we're we're not doing the podcast anymore. Only destiny podcast. I know and carlos is a hairpin um, I
00:43:13
Speaker
I've been very negative on the game for the last year or so. A friend of mine, he finally got to the point like a few years back where he's like, I can't do this anymore. And I was the defender. I've been the defender for years. I've been the punching bag for all the negativity. And, you know, it finally like hit me where I was just like, yo, I'm tired of like reskinned guns and like the same old content, the Taco Bell effect. But there is a part of me that does miss
00:43:42
Speaker
the game and having the bug you've gotten back recently. Truth be told, I have been having fun with it lately, but not enough to where I want to log in and grind on my own. But I'm really hoping that they do redeem themselves. I hope that this is the true sequel to The Witch Queen. I hope it's way beyond lightfall. I hope they do redeem themselves because this is a company that
00:44:11
Speaker
Literally impacted my life like like no other game like straight up I know like as a first-person shooter like Halo was like the game like the game changer but destiny got me into like doing raids and Playing socially like this and playing more with strangers and friends and grinding and making builds like this game Changed me as a gamer. So there is a part of me that really hopes Bungie can turn it around III. I hope they can I really do
00:44:41
Speaker
Yes, I agree. I'm in a similar situation where the people that I played D1 with, like hardcore, and even like the first year, year and a half of D2, like hardcore, like the three or four people that I played with like almost every day, like they just don't play it anymore. Cause they had dropped off at some point and they were just like, I'm never touching this game again. And I'll text them every once in a while and just be like,
00:45:04
Speaker
Hey, I know y'all are on TV now, like a bunch of nerds, but, uh, the witch queen is like super cheap now or whatever. Like anytime there's like a crazy sale, I'm like, listen, you should get on and just play it. Like when the witch queen came out, I texted him like three or four times during it. Just being like, you should just, it's like on sale for $5 or $10 now, whatever. Like you should just play it. Just play it. Just play it.
00:45:31
Speaker
See what happens. Then lightfall came out and didn't text him anymore, but don't come back now. But if they came back, like, I don't know about the people that dropped off that you played with, but I think for the most part, they dropped off before.
00:45:47
Speaker
or around like when stasis came out so like okay coming back to be able to play the beyond light campaign witch queen lightfall plus all the dungeons and the raids and two new subclasses like there'd be a lot of those for those people to come back to so if you haven't played in a while
00:46:08
Speaker
I know everybody that plays Destiny right now are like, it's in a bad spot and there's nothing to do. But if you haven't played in a while, there is a lot. But see, there's a negative, right? They come in and they don't know what to do first. That's the problem too. It's a double-edged sword. I'm not talking about those people. I'm just talking about the people that have played, but then dropped off. Oh, me. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. That's why you just, you know,
00:46:37
Speaker
shoot us a message, don't log on games. And you're like, hey, I haven't played since they were still with Activision. We'll get in there, we'll do it. We'll get our hands dirty. We're not afraid to get our hands dirty, you know? Not afraid. Not afraid. All right, well, have you beaten Final Fantasy VII reverse yet? Bro, still playing. There's a podcast I listened to and one of the guys said he was on chapter 13 and he's still playing. I'm on chapter nine.
00:47:07
Speaker
So we're still going. I'm still going on 16. Whatever. It is funny. I've been seeing like trolls and people that are stupid because there's two different ones. There's people that are actually trolling and there's people that actually just don't know. And they're stupid.
Game Performance Comparisons
00:47:26
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They're like.
00:47:28
Speaker
Oh, Starfield, y'all made a big deal when Starfield was only 30 frames, but Final Fantasy VII comes out and it's 30 frames, nobody said nothing. I'm just like, they have a 60 frame version. Yeah, there's a, yeah, performances. Yeah. It's like all in my Twitter timeline now. It's just like, I have a picture of both the games and be like, Starfield's garbage, but Final Fantasy VII is great or whatever. And they're both 4K, 30 frames. And I was like,
00:47:54
Speaker
60. That's been my dilemma with the Dragon's Dogma 2 coming out. Apparently it's 30 locked on console. Same. I'm just like, no, thank you. I mean, a lot of people, if you can do it, kudos to you.
00:48:10
Speaker
I'm playing Final Fantasy 16 right now and it hurts me when I'm just running around the world and it dips to like 30 or 40 or 50 or whatever. We have new standards, man. Our eyes just need that. We need those frames, man. We need those frames. I'm at the point now where there's certain games that are coming or updating to 120 and I'm going back between 120 and 60 and I'm just like, do I want to take the... That is usually a pretty visually
00:48:40
Speaker
Like a big visual drop when you go to 120. So now I'm contemplating like, like games like Overwatch at 120, there's not a huge visual drop. Like maybe in some of the lighting, maybe things are a little bit shinier, you know, at 60, but it's not enough. I mean, it looks like a PSD game anyway. Yeah. Like Rocket League's at 120, all this other stuff. But then like Apex just recently came out with their 120 Hertz version.
00:49:06
Speaker
I've been playing with friends on that, but it's just like, man, it looks like I'm playing on the switch. And it's like, I can't, I don't know if I can do this and I'll play like Sea Thieves and it's the same way. I was just like, man, this game takes a hit. So wait for that PS5 pro, baby. Here's my quick take. Um, like I have a PC that can play stuff up to like 144 Hertz or whatever. Um,
00:49:32
Speaker
I'm fine with 60. I don't need my games to be like 120. So here's the thing, when you see that for the first time, you're like, ugh. Exactly. But you get used to it. Yeah. And then it just, I don't know. Just make 60 the standard. Everything can just be 60. 60 shouldn't be the standard. I agree. It should be 60, and we shouldn't even say 30 ever again for the rest of our lives.
00:49:59
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The floor should be 60 frames. However bad you have to make it look for it to hit 60 frames. So the switch is just like combust and explode just for now. I mean, it should have done that three years ago, but.
00:50:12
Speaker
Zelda, the newest Zelda should have come out and then like six months later they should have been like right. Every switch explodes now. You had your chance if you missed it. Look, as long as the next one is backwards compatible and we can play all that crap at 60, let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
Conclusion and Thanks
00:50:31
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Alright, we want to thank everybody for listening to this episode. Again, new episodes upload every Friday. You can watch us at youtube.com slash at logon games. Let us know in the comments how you would fix Destiny 2 if you were a Destiny player, what you want to see from Into the Light, etc. But that's going to do it for us here. We will be with you all again next.