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Wrestlemania 41 Preview
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We are joined by The Fig God to preview the weekend ahead as he heads to west Tennessee for Wrestlemania!
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Welcome and Introduction
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Welcome to the Chick-fil-A Show.
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This Rebel Heart.
WrestleMania 41 Preview
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What is up Foley fam? We are back with our Wrestlemania extravaganza. Wrestlemania 41, two nights, non-stop action this weekend and we are going to go match by match with analysis on every single ah matchup on the card.
00:00:38
Speaker
Before we get into that, Sheena, how you doing? I'm doing good. It is 10 o'clock here. So, you know, I'm on borrowed time right now, but I'm rallying. I'm excited. It's freaking WrestleMania week. It's the week we've all been waiting for. It's the freaking Super Bowl of wrestling. And or some would say the Super Bowl is the WrestleMania football. yeah um But ah yeah, I'm stoked, man.
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All
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00:01:25
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over the weekend. It's going to be jam-packed, full of wrestling, and you know it's a great way to kind of virtually watch all the events with 150 of your closest wrestling friends. Not to mention all the awesome figure talk and the usual shenanigans that are happening in the group.
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www.chickfoley.com $2 a month. Just do it. Sheen, let's start talking.
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Wait a second.
Guest Appearance and Farm Updates
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What's that?
00:01:52
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Is he back? He's here. Not yet. I thought he wasn't here until Friday. He's here with us virtually. the the The fake god himself. Jordan, what's going on, man? What's up? but Yeah, three days and I'll be live with the Phelps in person. So we'll give you some good content this weekend.
00:02:12
Speaker
Me and Seth will definitely be drunk all weekend. Sheena's going to really enjoy herself. Psst. Yeah. You know, Jordan's coming in for WrestleMania weekend. So he's going be a big part of the festivities around here. So it's only right that he joined us for the preview episode. Jordan, what's new out in Omaha, man?
00:02:27
Speaker
hu Not too much. Just ah busy with work, getting ready for summer. Zoe's dance is winding down. So yeah, a lot. Today was tax day the worst day of the entire year. And yeah, yeah when you're a 1099 employee, it's even worse. So yeah, this is ah is a long day for me.
00:02:48
Speaker
All right. So Jordan come in with a high note, man. Yeah, thanks. She can brighten us up a little bit. Tell us what's new on the farm. um Well, I can't remember if we talked about, you know, we talked about our fence blowing down, but our our buddy Daniel here, one of our, ah you know, fellow football parents owns a ah landscaping business. Plug them, dude.
00:03:06
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Yeah. Local lawn and landscape. if you If you happen to be in West Tennessee and you're listening to this. Yeah. if you happen to be in West Tennessee, specifically like the 901, you know, hit up our buddy Daniel Branham. He's, ah you know, him and his crew did amazing work. They put us up a brand new fence. Beautiful.
00:03:19
Speaker
And we extended our fence all the way up to the front yard. So we got like another like, you know, big chunk of yard fenced in, which it extended the backyard. i just love it. You know, and we have a little oas private area to just chill and stuff. Yeah, it was it was a piece of a front yard that we never used. And, you know, may as well get some use out of it, Yeah, it was the, to to visualize it, it was that piece of the front yard that kind of dog legs around the side of the house, but before you get to the backyard fence. Exactly. Yeah, like Sheena said, it was kind of no man's land, because when the kids play in the front yard, they're playing out in front of the house. Yeah, they have a strip of yard in the front that they play in. Yeah, that was literally just the area that I had to mow. Mm-hmm. It was really all the purpose. Yeah, so we got that, I mean, pretty much that's all that's new, but, uh.
00:03:59
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it's not It's not flooding here anymore. i think the last time we talked, we were like under tornado watches and floods and all that kind of stuff. so ah you know The weather is nice and beautiful here in West Tennessee. so We'll see how long that lasts.
WrestleMania Match Analysis
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Speaker
All right, you guys ready to get into WrestleMania? Let's do it. Let's go. All right, so the way we're going to do this, guys, is we're going to go match by match. you know Typically, we hit the high points, but this is WrestleMania. um And ah you know for being a two-night mania, I think they got a pretty lean and mean card going here.
00:04:25
Speaker
So I'm going to run through the matches. Sheena and Jordan are going to do most of the heavy lifting here. They're going to give us the... a rating on how excited they are for each match from from zero to five chicks. So, you know, we're we're bringing back to how many chicks scale, if you guys remember that from a segment a few years ago.
00:04:42
Speaker
So zero chicks means that, you know, you already got that match kind of penciled in. That's going to be your bathroom, refill your plate, get grab another beer match. Five chicks means like you were literally counting on the moments until they ring the bell on it.
00:04:53
Speaker
So we'll get into it. We'll kind of go what I think is going to be in order. So you guys ready to start night one? Mm-hmm. All right, so I'm going out on a limb here. I'm guessing that the first match is going to be Gunther versus Jey Uso for the World Heavyweight Championship. Remember when I said that you were like, I don't know. think it spot with it. always said was going to start. I just said either night one or night. I thought night two felt like made more sense than night one. But yeah, it looks like I'm thinking this thing opens night one. it's going to open, dude. I, I'm, you know, this is, this is kind of, it's got, it was a little bit lost in the shuffle when all the stuff started happening with the triple threat and Cena turning heel and everything.
00:05:28
Speaker
But I feel like they've come around. They brought it back together. Gunther and Jay have had some just excellent weekly television episodes the last couple of weeks. And, um, I'm five stars excited for this dude. I think I'm really, I'm really pumped. I really hope that Jay gets the win here. Just give us a super feel good moment right off the top. Everybody's eating. Everybody's happy for WrestleMania.
00:05:49
Speaker
um You know, I don't know how long he'll carry this title, but it doesn't even really matter. You know what i mean? Like he made it to the mountaintop and I'm, I'm stoked to see it. Jordan, what about you, man? um I'm going to four and a half. I am really excited for this match. It's just, dude, I don't know what happened, but ever since Royal Rumble, Gunther has started to feel like less and less of a big deal to me.
00:06:10
Speaker
i don't know why. it just Every time I see him in the ring now, i just know kind of feels weird. And I feel the opposite way about Jay. I feel like he's never been bigger than he is now. And umm I'm really excited to watch him win. And yeah, I think it's going a good match. It's just some of the build for this match has been just kind of odd. I don't know if that's the best way to put it. It's just been kind of it's been kind of one note, right? Like, yeah you know, Gunther's super serious. Gunther. Yeah. Yeah. Gunther, as Jay calls him.
00:06:37
Speaker
ah Yeah. It's definitely been one note. Just, you know, Gunther, I'm serious. I'm going to beat you up. And Jay's, you know, he's eating for the people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm here for it, though. i mean I mean, what else are they supposed to do, dude? It's really more more or less just kind of like a rubber match, blood feud type situation at this point. so To me also, I feel like the Yeet Mania was starting to run out of a little bit of steam maybe about two and a half, three weeks ago.
00:07:01
Speaker
But I think just turning the serious slider up like one or two notches for Jay brought it all back, man, to where now it's like... you know, he's being more serious, which gives him more credibility, makes him more believable. And it seems like it's making the crowd pop even more when he does give into it Like when they did the encore the Yeats on Monday, like I felt that shit, man. Yeah, i agree.
00:07:20
Speaker
Jordan, you're the in-ring guy, man. is j we We know Gunther is you know one of the three or four best wrestlers in the world right now. Is Jay going to be able to rise to the occasion and give us something good? Because I think that's that's clearly the – don't think he's a bad wrestler, but that's definitely the weak spot in his game right now as ah as a main event performer. I mean, that's what that's what a lot of people are talking about when they talk about Jay – ah yeah I mean, his his biggest match in WrestleMania was arguably last year against his brother, and um we all know what what that turned out to be. So I think he does rise to the occasion, though. I think this is the biggest moment of his career, and I think he worked really hard to get here, and I do think he delivers on Saturday. So I'm very excited to watch him win.
00:07:59
Speaker
ah So we're all in on Jay's winning? Yep, all in. Yeah, the fact that they put it night... If they would have it at night two, I think it would have been a little bit shakier, but I don't think he's losing on night one. I think ja ja with Jay losing, you risk the crowd turning on you, man. Exactly. You risk that...
00:08:14
Speaker
they're going to be ready to reject every single thing you put on after that, man. It'll be like that those last handful of Vince McMahon, WrestleMania is all over again. Because it's not like it's not like Cody, right? like i mean, I remember there was talk, you know we were saying, like you know I don't know how Cody's going to recover from this, dude, but he's he's Cody Rhodes, dude. like And Roman always had his followers, too, dude. yeah I don't think anybody's going to be rooting for Gunther. There's probably going to be a very, very, very small little niche of folks that want to see Gunther win, man. like right you know There was a solid chunk of people that wanted Roman Reigns to beat Cody at WrestleMania 39.
00:08:44
Speaker
Exactly. But I do feel like if for whatever reason they make the choice to, you know, if Gunther goes over here, I don't think there's going to be another moment like this for J. I think, I think this is, that's it. Not that I don't think his star is just going to like plummet to the ground, but I definitely think we're going to see a ah huge cooling off of, ah of J. Uso over the next, you know six to eight months.
00:09:06
Speaker
Yeah. I will say if Cody could lose at WrestleMania 39, anybody could lose it anytime. Cause, isn't Even though I was talking cash shit that Roman was going to beat him all the way up to that, in my heart of hearts, I was shaky as fuck, dude. I was like, how are they going to beat this guy? He had so much groundswell. But yeah, you feel like it's got to... The other thing is that we've already seen Jay lose to Gunther a few times, dude. You can't have him get beat enough. Two or three times at this point, yeah.
00:09:29
Speaker
Yeah. All right. So I agree. I think Jay wins. I'm a little bit less confident than I was maybe right after Rumble time, but I still think he gets the job done. all right, let's go to the tag team championship match. We got... What was the grunt for? Dude, I just i have some thoughts on this. i just I feel like they've put so much work into the tag team division, and this is absolutely atrocious. I'm i'm sorry, this is not it. Jesus. Sorry, guys. I don't know. The bell stuck. It's a DQ, man. There's a DQ on Jordan for grimacing as soon as we an announced the match. We're hitting the bell on him. All right, so War Raiders versus New Day.
00:10:07
Speaker
um I'll go first on this one, man. you know I think the match is going to rock, right? all four guys of these can go All four of these guys can go, and I think they know that getting the ah tag team championships, it's not part of the bloodline story, and it's not some kind of crazy ladder match. I think it's a big deal that they're getting just a straight-up tag match for the belts on Mania.
00:10:28
Speaker
So i think they're going show out this year. feel like New Day's got to win, man, to get some momentum back. Dude, I'm not sure if I remember an all-time fumble of the heat. you know These guys were, like for a two for two weeks there, Kofi and... Xavier. Xavier, they were the two most hated wrestlers in WWE, w and it seems like that just went nowhere, man. like Did they mistime this? should they have wait Should they have saved that whole storyline for yeah last month? yeah Yeah, I think so. I think it would they ah they prematurely turned them heel, and I think...
00:10:59
Speaker
You know, they just didn't really know where to go from there. And it was just like the the like you said, the heat just kind of cooled off. And um yeah, it doesn't feel like that. But I think this is a point when they get the belts, when they get the titles, they can be a new day. It'll be a new day and they can regain they can regain that heat and um get it fired back up. Or do we see some payoff? Do we see Big E show up at Mania? You know, that is a very good point. That is a very, very, very valid point. You know, Triple H loves the Viking shit, dude. So yeah I know he's very high on the War Raiders, man. They're some of his old NXT buddies. So yeah I don't think it's... And that'd be a WrestleMania moment for sure, man. Yeah.
00:11:35
Speaker
you know If Big E supposedly, if he really is playing the long game and we're gonna see him back someday, maybe get a little tease. you know i mean it Maybe he comes in just as a little little interference spot or something, man. don't know. I haven't even really considered Big E. That's what I'm here for, man. I'm here to make you consider the unconsidered.
00:11:49
Speaker
Jordan, where are you at on this one? Let's hear it goes do justify that grimace, dude. I just, I don't know. I feel like the tag division was in in such a good spot. I mean, they the bloodline involved in it, and it just felt like a big deal again. and i This match just makes me feel like we're going back to the the opposite direction, back to where it was. Yeah.
00:12:11
Speaker
I don't know, man. there To me, that this is just there's no build to this match at all. like Like you said, they pulled the trigger way too early on the New Day thing, and there was just it's just dead air now at this point when they're out there.
00:12:23
Speaker
Big E would definitely energize it, but I don't know, man. I'm low on this one. I'm probably like 1.5 chicks on this one. I think it'll be a good match, but just like the build-up to it and just...
00:12:34
Speaker
i don't know, the overall state of the tag division again. I mean, they brought in all these tag teams, like the Motor City Machine Guns, DIY is still a tag team, and this is what we're getting at WrestleMania. Like, it just, I don't know, it feels like such a letdown to me.
00:12:49
Speaker
Keep going down the biggie rabbit hole, man. You know, the SmackDown belts are getting defended on Friday night. Street Profits going against the previously mentioned Motor City Machine Guns. This match seems like it would have made all the sense in the world to go on that hyped up Raw after Mania, right? To put a little juice to it. So that's that's another thing leaves me to think maybe we do get some...
00:13:09
Speaker
some biggie development in this match. Cause what, yeah, like there's, ah for there's no other reason that this belongs on the mania card with the lack of story heading into it. I think if they, if they really just wanted to have a tag team match on the, the WrestleMania card for one of the men's belts, I would have just known street profits and motorcycling machine guns out there and given them 15 minutes go tear the house down. You know what i mean? Cause that to me, that's an all timer of a match that low expectations, but it'll absolutely have everybody as a palm of their hand by the, by the time they get to the finish.
00:13:36
Speaker
Yeah, like you said, I feel like they might be setting something up for New Day going forward. you know Because you have WrestleMania, it's like it kind of like resets the system, right? like yeah Anything is possible after Mania season. They're going to shake things up.
00:13:49
Speaker
And the cool thing with this Mania, if you look at a lot of these, almost every single match outside of maybe Jey and Gunther... feels like it's going to be a springboard to more storyline. You know, last last season was, ah that was the season finale, last season. you know I mean, I've said it before. It could have been the series finale of wrestling um with all the, the way all the storylines wrapped up and kind of converged. Whereas this, it feels like this is really kind of like a, you know, the season premiere for what we're going to get over the next 12 months. um Predictions.
00:14:17
Speaker
I'm going to say War Raiders win with an assist from Big E. Um, I was, I was i had New Day as kind of like a stone cold lead pipe lock, but with the consideration that Big E could show up, um,
Main Event Excitement
00:14:31
Speaker
I'm, I'm gonna go with New Day, but not as confidently. New Day could win and you have some sort of Big E situation afterwards too.
00:14:38
Speaker
Where you on it, Jordan? Split, split the difference, man. I'm going War Raiders as well. I just, I don't think now is the right time for the New Day to win the belts. All right, let's go to our first straight-up grudge match of the night, Rey Mysterio against El Grande Americano.
00:14:55
Speaker
um I think this is going to be a fun match. It's nothing that I'm like, you know, it's not like can't miss television. but I think this is going to be one of the most sports entertaining matches of the weekend. Yeah, i think it'll I think it'll be fun. It'll be entertaining. I think the kids will like it.
00:15:12
Speaker
um You know you're going to get some crazy spots with all of ah Alpha Academy. Yeah. Or what an American made, whether they know American made. Yeah. With American made and the LWO. So we're going get some crazy group spots.
00:15:24
Speaker
ah I think Ray wins. I just I feel like raids, you know, he's kind of that goaded status. I'm wondering, do we see El Grande Americano get unmasked? Yeah, I think so. Jordan? Yeah, I agree. I think he has to get unmasked, and I agree. This is just kind of a... This is going to be a feel-good spot for Rey. This is probably his last WrestleMania.
00:15:44
Speaker
um And, ah i mean, what what would really be the point of Chad Gable winning this match? I just... I don't see the point in it. I'm all on it. Chad Gable's in this match? Whatever.
00:15:55
Speaker
Yeah, what are talking about? Chad Gable. If Abel only, I forgot. yeah I'm hoping we get it. They would make my day if we get so, you know, it's back in Vegas for the first time since WrestleMania nine. Give me a throwback to do it. Let's get some El Grande Americano hijinks, man. I don't know who the person is to be there, but give us somebody else out there in the mask, dude.
00:16:14
Speaker
The lights go out. Yeah, yeah, a little callback, and and, you know, let's have some fun with the unmasking, dude. Because, you know, I'm um i'm pretty confident it's Chad Gable.
00:16:25
Speaker
We saw all that first night he was there, though. Remember, Chad Gable was there, and somebody else came by in the mask. We saw it that first night. Yeah, yeah. They did that. And also, Chad Gable, like I don't know if he got on um don't know what he got on, but he came back in the best shape of his freaking career. it's It was definitely Chad Gable this week. When Grande Cappuccino... You're mixing wrestlers. I'm mixing wrestlers. El Grande Cappuccino Jones.
00:16:46
Speaker
Yes, I'm Grande Cappuccino Jones. Yeah. We have a ah Memphis wrestler, WWE ID wrestler, Cappuccino Jones. Grande Cappuccino. I'm going to start a faction called The Coffee Shop, dude.
00:16:59
Speaker
And we're all going to be... Real quick sidebar. Sheena sheena kind of laughed. I thought it was a joke name. Jordan, knight let me get your thoughts, dude. Cold Brew Cappuccino Jones. I think that's one the coolest freaking wrestling names I've ever heard. I didn't say... didn't say it was...
00:17:12
Speaker
But because listen, I am a coffee aficionado and cold brew and cappuccino are not the same thing. They're not even close to the same thing. So it just kind of like it didn't roll off of the tongue. what Like if you said ah this is cold brew Jones or if this is cappuccino Jones, that's cool. I mean, I've gotten used to cold brew cappuccino Jones and I like it now. But when you were initially telling me, I was like, that's just it's too wordy. It's not and it doesn't really make sense in the coffee. Apparently, kayfabe doesn't apply to coffee for Sheena.
00:17:39
Speaker
yeah and i mean the thing is business you're really calling them cold brew cappuccino jill did you hear at the same they chat cappuccino and they chant cold brew cold brew right right yeah dude's gonna be money but anyway el grande americano um i don't even remember what i was talking about but uh yeah i give it i give it three stars i'm i'm i'll go four i think it's gonna be a fun match yeah that's the ray's gonna turn up dude the lwo is As much as we joke about the LWO vortex, they're always pretty, generally pretty entertaining when they get out there. I remember what I was saying. I was just saying that I don't, you know, now I know because like, you know, they've shown like he had the same like scab on his hand or something like that. Somebody was putting side by side things for, um you know,
00:18:18
Speaker
You kind see when he pulls this mask out to put the foreign object in, too. You can see the same of face structure and It looks like Chad Gable, but the first time I saw Grande Americano, I was convinced it was not Chad Gable, dude. He slimmed down. He slimmed down. was way longer. was super ripped. Like, you know, like freaking bodybuilder ripped. And he had super, like, long, like... Yeah, his look way longer. Yeah, they were like, was like super lanky looking. And I did was not convinced it was Chad Gable. So I'm like, dude, I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe they just pulled the okie doke on us. And like, you decided they were going to go with Chad Gable being the actual, you know, wrestler. But I don't know.
00:18:54
Speaker
and we better We better get a figure of El Grande Americano. That's got to happen, dude. Yeah. You know, the one other touch that I think we need, I mentioned this to Sheena on Raw Jordan, I think that would just set his character over the top. So, you know, his entrance is like a mariachi version of Stars and Stripes Forever, like the old like Lex Luger's theme he was first using. I think they should have done a mariachi version of Real American by Hulk Hogan for his theme, man.
00:19:15
Speaker
I just about to say they should have Hulk Hogan come out as Mr. America during this match. Really yeah fire things up Lean into it. He's already got the MAGA stuff going, saying that he's from the Gulf of America and all that stuff. like Just lean into it harder. Get to get the heat going, man.
00:19:29
Speaker
yeah I think Mariachi Real American would really be just ah the chef's kiss. Really tune the band up. Yeah, but I'm a big fan, dude. Glad to see Chad Gable getting solo match at WrestleMania. Well-deserved, man. Guys, ah I mean, he's he's a freaking WWE lifer now, dude. He's been there 10 years, man. He's been in WWE as long. Yeah, he's been there as long as Bret Hart was in WWF, dude. That's wild. The runs are so much longer now than they were back in the day. It's just crazy to think about some of this stuff. It is wild. It's wild to think that Chad Gable's been in WWE 10 years. That's nuts. Yeah.
00:19:59
Speaker
All right. Um, so we'll go, let's go to another title match. We'll go, we'll go to a title match. Then we got grudge match. And we got the two big ones for the night. So, uh, LA night versus Jacob fought too, man. So I think to me, LA nights, a little bit of a, don't want to say placeholder, but he's kind of just treading water right now. And this us title picture, he's, he's kind of stuck in that, like, you know, tippy top of the mid card bottom of the main event, uh, scene.
00:20:23
Speaker
Um, But, you know, Jacob Fatu still got bloodline drama, right? Him and him and Solo haven't been able get on this the same page for the last month, even though he's got more momentum. How do you guys see this one playing out?
00:20:35
Speaker
I could totally see Jacob Fatu walking out the new U.S. champion. I think they've got big plans for old, you know, Samoan Werewolf. And, yeah, i could I could see him winning. Even if he still has unfinished business with Solo, I don't think it matters, dude.
00:20:50
Speaker
You know? Jordan. Jordan. Yeah, i I have a weird feeling this is like almost a squash match at this point. think Jacob Fatu wins and wins easily, and i agree with you, Seth. LA Knight is definitely a placeholder at this point. this is This is a crowning achievement for Jacob Fatu. I mean, I'm excited to see him win, but I'm not expecting great things out of this match.
00:21:14
Speaker
So, dude, i I disagree with both you guys, man. i already booked you guys a WrestleMania moment with Big coming out to help the new day. I'm gonna go fantasy book another one, man. I think Solo does something stupid to get in the way and cost ah and costs Jacob the match. And I think Jacob beats the shit out of the ever-loving shit out of Solo afterwards, picks up the mic and hits Solo.
00:21:35
Speaker
I hate you. for a moment number two of the night. and It's to a huge pop, dude. We see, you know, we unleash baby face Jacob Fatu on the the roster for the next year, man. Yeah, that's certainly a possibility. But um yeah, my my initial thoughts coming into this were more in line with Jordan that Fatu was just going to squash him.
00:21:53
Speaker
Yeah, Triple H does like to slow play his booking stuff, too. So I could see fa i you see Jacob winning the belt and you know that same kind of storyline with Solo plays out over the next two months instead of just you know blowing your wad all in one night at Mania.
00:22:06
Speaker
um All right, so we got our big grudge match here. was It's a big deal. This is... I want to say... I can't i post it in the group, man. I think it's the first time since WrestleMania 29 that we've had a one-on-one match between females that doesn't involve a championship belt at WrestleMania.
00:22:24
Speaker
Jade and Naomi one-on-one. Now, this is going to be a squash. yeah You think Jacob and LA Knight, to me, this is squash night. It's going to be a showcase for Jade. I think, you know, we may see a couple little flashes in there for Naomi, but I think Jade beats the hell out of her. And we see five minutes just make Jade look like a killer, remind everybody of what a big deal she is.
00:22:42
Speaker
And she rolls. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. i Go ahead, Jordan. 100% agree. The only thing that I could see throwing a wrench in this is I saw someone online mention they thought Naomi might get a faction. It'd be a couple of girls being called up from NXT. So I don't know. can see that. Maybe that could throw a wrench in it. But I agree. Jade definitely needs a showcase match at WrestleMania. And this feels like good time for it.
00:23:07
Speaker
So you think there's no world in which Bianca is still involved in this somehow? Yeah, she's focused on her match tomorrow night, dude. Yeah, I mean, I don't think directly involved in this match, but just like in the in the whole thing.
00:23:21
Speaker
She's barely been involved with it, really, since they had that big promo. Yeah, she's kind of been out of it. But yeah, I mean, I think it's going be a squash with Jade, but I don't know. i just feel It just feels a little bit like...
00:23:33
Speaker
and You know what i mean? like time It was an awkward storyline. Yeah, I think they just I think they had it in their head that, you know, they know Naomi. She's she's right there with Natty is one of the the most reliable female wrestlers they have. I think they wanted to get Jada one on one match at Mania away from the belts and.
00:23:49
Speaker
I think they, they said they want to do that match and then they work backwards on the storyline. Yeah. It just kind of seems like an an ah an abrupt, unexciting ending to a, I mean, they can always, you know, and they can always go back to her and Bianca down the road.
00:24:00
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, it has been a little bit awkward that Bianca, the lack of Bianca in this storyline. Um, Yeah, Jordan, I do like your idea because there's definitely, ah ah you know, the NXT women's division is super crowded. and There's definitely a handful of a ladies down there that you can kind of just drag and drop into a ah faction with the with Naomi. So we'll see if that comes to pass. All right, our two big matches for night one after Gunther and Jay were assuming to open the show. First off, we got, which this co could be a car crash. I have no idea what to expect out of this one, but i it's probably, it's right there with the triple threat as my most anticipated match of night one.
00:24:35
Speaker
Tiffany Stratton versus Charlotte Flair for the Women's Championship. Yeah, this is going to be something to behold. we yeah We're going to get a a Kaiser in a cage match, you know. Dear Lord.
00:24:47
Speaker
Hanging up above, but yeah. Kaiser on pole. Kaiser on a pole match. Uh, yeah, I think they're just going to beat the hell out of each other. i i mean, when Charlotte first came back and like won the rumble and all the things I thought like, you know, she's definitely winning, but as this has gone on, I think they could totally just take Charlotte out of the picture after mania and kind of do a reset. Cause they need to do something because whatever they're doing right now is not like working for her character. Obviously like they got intrigue based on the, the, you know, kind of the flub on, uh,
00:25:21
Speaker
Raw and whatnot, but I feel like they need to do something else to kind of help Charlotte along. would be absolutely stunned if Charlotte doesn't win this match. too. I just feel like, you know... How could they be underestimating Tiffy, dude? I love Tiffy. i Trust me, if I was if i was picking, i I hope Tiffy drags her ass all across the arena. I'm rooting for Tiffy. I'd love nothing more than to see her win, but...
00:25:43
Speaker
To me, dude, you don't bring Charlotte back and have her win the Rumble and give her all the hype she has. And, dude, she's one Triple H's favorites, dude. She was one of the first big call-ups from NXT. He worships her dad. Like, therere there Dude, she's the female Randy Orton, man. Like, they are always, always going to be presented. Yeah, I hadn't really considered the, you know, Flair-Triple H connection, but... Yeah, and it doesn't hurt Tiffy one bit to lose this match, man. it It sucks. I mean, I don't know. I guess it does suck that she loses this one, but I think she's going to get her win back down the road. You know what i mean? I could see you know Tiffy going a little redemption arc because, remember, she's still a cash-in champ, which at this point, I kind of put an astrox by anybody that wins the belt on a cash-in.
00:26:21
Speaker
um There's nothing to say that she can't work her way back and get this thing back at SummerSlam or something. I think she gets her win back down the road just because Charlotte's always been pretty good about that, but... It's Charlotte Flair's first WrestleMania in what, two years, right? I think WrestleMania 39 was her last one. She put over Rhea at WrestleMania 39.
00:26:38
Speaker
Charlotte ain't losing at Mania twice in a row, man. I think i think she takes Tiffy out. I agree with you. And to to use Seth's phrase, ah we didn't come this far with Charlotte to only come this far. Like she's, I agree with that. I think she's definitely winning this match. And don't I just, it is weird. Like every time I see Charlotte on TV now, it just, it seems more weird than the previous week. ah Yeah. I think that's the, I think that's the thing though, dude. I think at at some point you just have to be like, you know what? Like,
00:27:09
Speaker
Like, this is not this is not it anymore. Well, I think they're just pivoting to make her a heel. You know, i think they really I think they really thought that she was going to like a beloved babyface when she first came back. I think she's going to be a heel, um getting all the boos. And I think it'll do more for Tiffy in the long run to to win the championship as a babyface than it is to defend it. You know i mean That's always the moment when you win that belt, capture from the heel.
00:27:31
Speaker
So, yeah, I think she loses, but I think Tiffy gets this thing back five or six months down the road. Yeah, we'll see. It'll be fun anyway. It's going to be. I'm hoping Charlotte's back here, man. I didn't like the way she's looked physically so far. The couple of times, the handful of times we've seen her since she came back from the injury. So hopefully she's been kind of just slow rolling it and we see her back to herself. I mean, to me, that's a bigger concern because i went I never was a real big fan of her character work or mic work, but I always enjoyed seeing Charlotte go in the ring. So um the fact that it's looked kind of, ah you know, as shaky as it has since she's been back, that that's kind of my biggest concern.
00:28:06
Speaker
yeah Yeah, she definitely looks like a shell of herself the last the first few times we've seen her. All right, let's go main event. Triple threat. They never did put any stakes on this like I was wanting, but I feel like the build they've still built it up to WrestleMania main event level somehow.
WrestleMania Build-up and Comparisons
00:28:22
Speaker
Triple Threat, Roman Reigns, CM Punk with Paul Heyman, and Seth Rollins. I'm at five chicks on this one just to see how this plays out. Yeah, I'm at i'm at five chicks as well. um I think last time we talked, I told you guys that I was pretty sure that it was going to be a CM Punk victory.
00:28:38
Speaker
After this past week, I don't know, man. It seems like everything's coming up Rollins, dude. I feel like i um um my confidence meter is still telling me CM Punk's going to do it, but the Rollins meter is ticking over pretty heavy right now.
00:28:56
Speaker
what The Rollins meter. yeah You and Seth tuning up the Rollins meter this week. We got the Rollins meter. yeah We got the Roman meter turned down to zero. Rollins meters turned up to 10.
00:29:08
Speaker
Exactly. going to be wearing
Ticket Prices and Venue Discussion
00:29:11
Speaker
my old school. And Brett's going for CM Punk. so we yeah a three rhett All three wrestling fans. and that He loves CM Punk, dude. All three wrestling fans are... That's it. I'm canceling my trip. Well, you know Brett's a big AEW fan, dude. CM Punk's the only of these guys that came from AEW, man. so That's it. and I'm canceling my trip. I'm not coming anymore. We went from he was a Roman fan. Well, he was a Rollins fan. He was a Roman fan. And now he's CM Punk. Then he was Cody. yeah He was never... a he was he was I think he was just a Rollins fan just because I like Seth and Brett. He was a Roman fan big time, man, until...
00:29:42
Speaker
You know, he was justified. As soon as Roman started being mean to the Usos, that's when he started hating Roman, and then he switched to Cody, dude. he He never forgave Roman for for being mean to Jimmy and Jay when all that stuff was going down post-WrestleMania 39. Yeah.
00:29:56
Speaker
Yeah. I agree. I mean, me and Seth have been texting back and forth about this match for the last couple weeks, and I just kept saying everything to me is pointing towards Rollins winning. Just yeah all the Heyman stuff between Roman and CM Punk. I just...
00:30:10
Speaker
i don't Hopefully, we're not just like taking the the hand that feeds us here. that They're just trying to give it away that Rollins is going to win, and he doesn't. I don't know. Again, I don't think they're giving it away. because i mean um i mean i still think CM Punk could absolutely win this year. rob unfortunately i think um yeah any one of these three guys could win. Roman feels like the least like roman feels like the least likely but i think we all need a hefty reminder of like who the freak seth rollins is dude you know what i mean he's got the most to uh gain storyline wise too man because i don't i like i said my i it's possible i don't think it's totally out of question that they go with the crazy swerve and have paul hayman joined up with seth um but i don't know that feels kind of heelish and i really don't feel like they want to turn seth heel like he seems like he's pretty damn well over as a baby face right now um I think i think Paul Heyman's going to turn on Punk, which is it going to ultimately cause... I just think we get some sort of love triangle, dude. I think eventually we see Punk and Roman main eventing a pay-per-view here in the next couple months one-on-one. To me, I think there's going to be, like I said, this love triangle between Punk, Roman, and Heyman gets in the way. And Seth's perfect to capitalize on that, dude. He's got a finisher you can hit out of nowhere.
00:31:22
Speaker
um I think Seth takes advantage and gets to win. To me, that's the most interesting thing they could do. But again, any three of these guys could win the match, man. So you're saying we're going to get the wise man in a shark cage here in the next couple months?
00:31:34
Speaker
I'm all for it. I love this idea. Who we had talked about before, yeah. The winner gets the wise man, dude. I think you do a wise man four corners match. They have to pick up Paul and walk all four corners and touch the turnbuckle with each one to claim him. Oh, man. And then Lesnar comes back.
00:31:52
Speaker
Yeah, this is going to be... Oh, my God. That would be awesome. um This is going to be a hell of five match, dude. And I'm so stoked for it. So, yeah.
00:32:03
Speaker
Five plus chicks. Yeah, I agree. i'm Five stars on this one. Five chicks, whatever you want to call it. And to be honest, a couple weeks ago, I was not that jacked for this match. I just... It felt like having them all not in the ring at the same time just to me kind of killed the build a little bit for me.
00:32:21
Speaker
But I mean, these last two weeks, they have been absolutely humming on this build. And yeah, I'm all in on it now. So are we all three picking Seth? Yeah, I think so. that makes me nervous that we're all on the same person. I know. feel like we're getting worked. We're getting worked. Yeah, he's fucked.
00:32:37
Speaker
Yeah. He's fooked. He's fooked. All right. um Let's go to night two, man. That's it for night one, dude. Which night do you guys are you guys liking better? To me, night one's got the better slate, man. Night one's got the better, Yeah. I feel like you kind of got to do that because night two still feels like the biggest night just because that's just kind of how things, you know, we've been conditioned to think that way, right? Yeah. that's the way they've they've treated it so far.
00:33:01
Speaker
But yeah, night one feels like it's it's heavily weighted towards it, man. Yeah. I mean, because um you got Roman, you got the triple threat, you got the championship match between Jay and Gunther and the freaking championship match between Tiffy and Charlotte. they mean And that's not, and there's like four other great matches Yeah. We know that a struggle is probably the wrong word, but the ticket sales were a little bit slower this year than they had been the last couple.
00:33:24
Speaker
So I'm thinking they probably knew Cena and Cody was selling tickets on its own, and they just threw everything else at night one. Yeah. mean, I don't think it was ah as much a talent thing as it was just an economical thing, dude. Yeah.
00:33:36
Speaker
I mean... ah yeah, you're talking about the ticket sales. Yeah, I don't think, I mean, because it's a it's a ah great card all around, but I think, um you know, I think it's just the economy more than anything else. yeah Yeah. right, let's get into night two. So I'm assuming probably opening match, I think maybe you go with that Intercontinental Fatal 4-Way, which should be an absolute banger, dude. We got Dom and Finn representing the Judgment Day, along with Pinta and Braun Breaker.
00:33:59
Speaker
I want to see it Dirty Dom walk away the Intercontinental Championship, or Intercontinental Champion. Yeah. They'll just pass my bet, Dom.
00:34:09
Speaker
Gosh, why are we agreeing so much? I feel like we always disagree on most the Mania matches, but I agree. I want to see Dirty Dom win this match. it just It feels like it's time for him to to get a singles belt, and this is the best opportunity for him.
00:34:24
Speaker
Although I will say, after the past three weeks, dude, Braun just feels like he's unbeatable at this point. Yeah. But again, I would rather see Dom win it, and I never thought I would say that. like Two years ago, if you would have told me I was picking Dom win a WrestleMania match, i would slapped the shit out of you because I just i couldn't stand Dom. But at this point, I can't stand him so much that I actually like him now.
00:34:48
Speaker
Yeah, he's he's just, the the improvement he's had over the last three years is just tremendous, man. They need they need to break down the tape and and take it down NXT for all the newcomers to study. i want I want a Dom documentary like we had for Damian Priest, you know? I want like a, you know, when Dom first got there and all the way up to Dirty Dom.
00:35:06
Speaker
I agree with you, Jordan and Kayfabe. None of these guys are really touching Bron Breaker right now, even Pinto, as good as he's been presented. But the good thing about a Fatal 4-Way is you can have some sort of hijinks happen where he's not even close to the the ring when the finish happens, dude. I'd love to see my boy Finn win it, man. I just did that.
00:35:23
Speaker
To me, man, he's he's at the top of the list of folks that are, you know, that it's so over it's so overused, but he honestly like has not been booked properly, man. I feel like he should be so much higher up in like the WWE pecking order than he's been. I feel like he just loses every big match he's in. like Obviously, I think he's comfortable for where he's at, man, but he's at the top of my list right now for guys I'd like to see go to AEW and look for greener pastures.
00:35:49
Speaker
Dude, ever since he lost as the Demon, it just has been downhill since that point. I just don't think there's any coming back from that. like You can't just lose a match clean like that. and Yeah, I feel bad for him, man.
00:36:03
Speaker
Ever since that injury when he won the... He never recovered from the Universal title. Yeah, I mean, going back to that, he never recovered from that. But I feel like there were still some high points after that. But ever since the Demon loss, I just i feel like it's all been downhill since that point.
00:36:17
Speaker
The Demon lost his last two matches. That was versus Roman, right? And then he lost to Edge in Hell in a Cell. The Roman one I don't count as much, though, because, dude, Roman was just unstoppable at that point. I don't count that one as much, but losing clean to Edge was not good.
00:36:35
Speaker
yeah I don't know, though. When that match was going on, I thought for a moment. i thought he was going to beat Roman. That's the one where he the music revived him. He was flopping around like a fish. Yeah. I was like, oh, shit, dude. And then he got on the top turnbuckle and the ring exploded. Yeah. Yeah, that was a wicked. Weird. Yeah, late that was late Vince era at its finest, dude. Weird.
00:36:53
Speaker
um Yeah, i I think Dom's winning, bro. i'm going I'm going to see. I think Dom's winning in this belt, man. I think then you get ah that i think that leads to – even know. I feel like Judgment Day is just eternal now, and it's just going to keep evolving. i think we go to the next phase of the Judgment Day where Finn ultimately gets ah gets pushed out.
00:37:12
Speaker
Yeah. I'm going to give this one four chicks. All right, let's go. Match number two. this is ah another weird one that I'm not even sure why it's on the card. Liv and Raquel defending the Women's Tag Team Championship against Bayley and Lyra. I'll go and say I got this one's zero chicks. Oh, dude. i feel so like I think the only reason this is on here is for Liv.
00:37:31
Speaker
i think that's literally the only reason. need to get her on the card. she She deserves to be on the card, but I'm with you. This is a zero stars. I am not excited at all for this match. And I will definitely be getting a beer and or food and or taking a piss during this match.
00:37:47
Speaker
Yeah, um I think Liv and Raquel, I mean, they're at least a legitimate tag team. I think they're going to retain over Bayley and Lyra. Yeah, I think you need to give Liv her moment, man. Let her win. Let her celebrate. like Just give them a straight-up match, dude. Because I don't think – Lyra's already Intercontinental Champion, and Bayley's a made woman.
00:38:06
Speaker
No matter she never wins another freaking big match the rest her time in WWE. So, yeah, I think you got to give Liv her moment. Mm-hmm. right, let's go aj Styles versus Logan Paul.
00:38:19
Speaker
I think this is a low-key match of the weekend, honestly. Yeah, i feel like it's still Joe Steeler for sure. This could be AJ's last WrestleMania. Logan Paul, just he goes all out in every match that he does, and AJ looks healthy enough to to put on a banger. So, yeah, I think this is going to be the match of the weekend, honestly, and I'm really excited for this.
00:38:42
Speaker
I think it's going to be awesome. I just feel like at having Logan Paul go over AJ Styles is like, wow, dude. you know i mean, Logan's 20 years younger than him, dude. AJ's an old dog. Plus, you know, Logan's going to cheat. you know, there's going to a giant prime bottle.
00:38:57
Speaker
He's to get the brass knuckles out. like i don't I don't think Logan's going over clean, but I think he's definitely going over, dude. Yeah. Yeah. He's been way more involved. He's putting in the work. I like Logan Paul. Love or hate him. He's a natural man. Yeah, I don't hate him. I've enjoyed all the Logan Paul matches that we've had up to this point, dude. I feel like of all of the people who are, you know, quote unquote, not wrestlers, they come in, the celebrity, you know, wrestlers. I feel like he's absolutely the best. All right. So are we in unison again that we think Logan's winning this? Yeah. He is winning, yeah.
00:39:30
Speaker
All right. Another one, man, that did when this first match was first announced, I really wasn't excited all. was a little bit of a groaner. But, you know, as it's gotten closer, I think the guys have put in a ton of effort on the build, the Sensity Street fight between Priest and McIntyre. And I think both these guys know, you know, obviously McIntyre is probably the most online wrestler in WWE. He's always on social media. You know, he's keeping up with it. I think they know the chatter going around this, that this was, you know, this was called like a throwaway match, I think by either Sean Ross Sapp or Meltzer, one of the, one of the big dirt sheets called this a throw throwaway match.
00:40:03
Speaker
Um, I think these guys to out and bring it and put on a show, man. I think they're going to go out and, and, you know, both these guys got something to prove. Yeah. Yeah. What are your thoughts, Jordan? I think this match to awesome. Drew, Drew definitely needs to have,
00:40:18
Speaker
Like everyone always says about Drew, like if he's focused and not focused on CM Punk and burying his career, Drew is always one of the best. So I think Drew wins this match, but I think this is a a knockout drag them out fight. And I think it's going to be a fantastic match, honestly. Yeah, I think they're goingnna beat the shit out of each other. But yeah, Drew's ultimately going to come away with the win.
00:40:39
Speaker
I think Drew would make ah is an excellent candidate to be the first rival for Jey Uso, man, if Jey wins that belt. could see that. right, let's go to the triple threat for the women's championship.
00:40:52
Speaker
eo Sky versus Bianca versus Rhea. Second straight year that – or not – was Io in a triple threat? No, it just Io and Bayley one-on-one last year, right? Io was defending – yeah, second straight year, though, that Io comes in.
00:41:05
Speaker
um What are we thinking on this one, man? I feel like Io gets away with it, man. I think that i think this is ah you know kind of the the opposite side of the the the same coin is that Seth – punk and roman match dude i think bianca and ria get so tied up with each other that eo finds a way to steal it and i think you know obviously like if you want to just you know be reading the tarot cards they've been disrespecting eo dude every time the three of them are in the ring together they're always like shoving her out of the way and they're going at each other so if she loses it really knocks her down exactly so i feel like she's just about to come out and just like you know show the world that why she's like the best wrestler in wwe
00:41:41
Speaker
I think Bianca wins this match. I just... I just have a weird feeling. Can't bet against her, man. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah, Bianca or Rhea, either one. I wouldn't be stunned to see them win it. yeah I feel like all the... Like Sheena said, the storyline tea leaves all point towards towards EO.
00:41:57
Speaker
And I get that. It's just, I don't know, man. Just for some reason, I feel like they're going to give the belt back to Bianca. I i don't think Rhea has a chance to win this match, and I'm completely okay with it. She doesn't need the belt at this point.
00:42:09
Speaker
I honestly feel like Rhea is almost to the point where she's above the belt at this point. um But i I do feel like Bianca needs another run with it, and I feel like this is a good opportunity for her to get it just because, like you said, triple threat match, anything goes. Yeah.
00:42:23
Speaker
Tying back tonight, one, another intriguing thing about Bianca winning is you start to kind of, you can kind of trace the lines on the storyline with Jay finally deciding to go after the belt, man. And obviously that's going be, that's a little bit of a dream match that they're, they've been waiting to pull the trigger off. And I really want, I really want to see a heel Bianca, dude. So it would be perfect time for, you know, them to turn Bianca heel, I think.
00:42:44
Speaker
Yeah, side back up with Naomi. All right, let's go. Main event of the weekend. One of the big money matches that WWE could put on. Cody Rhodes, one year plus as the WWE champion, defended against John Cena, looking to heal John Cena, looking to break Ric Flair's record.
00:43:03
Speaker
It's happening. I think Cena's winning. I think he breaks his record. i think we're going to get all kinds of shenanigans in this match, just like we got last year in the main event. um yeah I mean, dude, it's just it's wild to me that we've gotten this far without seeing The Rock again. I just.
00:43:20
Speaker
Yeah, he's got to be there Sunday, right? yeah Yeah, and I'm not saying that I think the build to this match has been bad, but not having The Rock at all after Elimination Chamber is just absolutely insane to me and not at all what I thought we were going to see. but They got back on track. I mean, though the that promo that they the last couple segments they had were great. You know they're going to cook on Friday, dude. Yeah. I they got some big plan. but yeah Maybe see The Rock on Friday, dude. I'm with you, Jordan. I really thought we were getting like 2025 between...
00:43:53
Speaker
cody and cena and travis scott maybe they had somebody else in and yeah there was minimal follow-up the the rock has been a minimal part of the story and we just and it was like so weird like we never got any explanation as to why the rock wanted cody to sell his soul to him you know what i mean and like did john cena sell his soul or is he just you know just a pawn and all this i don't know so it is unclear you go about selling a soul I don't know how much they going for these days. how bad I do have like a really weird feeling that something could go down though, where Cody ends up turning heel in this match and the rock helps him. oh way' double tear I just, I don't know. There's just, there's a part of me that feels like that's the only way that Cody could come out of this winning.
00:44:37
Speaker
Cause I do feel like everything points to Sina winning it. He's not going to win. I'm with you, man. If we want to put our fancy booking hats on, maybe you have Cody do a double turn. which And then, you know, you put Cena on the apology tour. i don't I don't think it would take a whole lot of work to get Cena back in the good graces of the fans. Then you have babyface Cena chasing for number 17 later in the year. Because, dude, as cool as it's going to be, ah you know, I'm not a huge fan of Cena or Ric Flair at this point. If you made me pick, I'd rather Cena have the record for most title wins.
00:45:08
Speaker
I feel like that's a much bigger moment if it's a babyface Cena breaking that record than a heel Cena. So that that's a good point, man. I don't know. I'm i'm not quite there yet thinking it's actually to happen. But I think you make a pretty good case, man, for for doing some sort of double turn. And it would definitely get people talking, dude, because to me, Cody still, for as much as he's been loved and all the kids freaking root for last couple years, I still feel he's just a natural heel, dude. Like, I feel like his character and everything, you don't even have to do that much different. And I think he could be such a freaking hated heel.
00:45:38
Speaker
Yeah, I 100% agree. i just cody's Cody's for the kids, though, dude. The kids, yeah, they are printing merch money with Cody. Yeah. I don't know. that that's very That's a very interesting thought, though, Jordan. i I'm not against that, man. It gives us something else to make it, not just such a foregone conclusion that Cena's taking this belt on on Sunday night. Yeah, and the money for Cody is in the chase and the recapture, dude, you know or like the reclaim.
00:46:01
Speaker
So I feel like, you know... yes a heel Cena holding the company hostage, dude, and like ruining wrestling for the fans and ruining wrestling for the wrestlers. like you know we're gonna By the time we gets to the point of him losing the title, we're gonna be like, hell yeah, dude. You know what I mean?
00:46:18
Speaker
Just bring back the doctor of Thuganomics and let's really get this thing on track here. like yeah If he comes out to his old music, I'll just... I don't know. I just feel like we got to get some more to this. don't know. I just don't feel like there's any way we just get a straight up match. Like the rock obviously is heavily involved and who knows who else.
00:46:38
Speaker
Something else I've been hearing, in man, that, you know, is a, Out there in the IWC, the big fantasy book in Speculation Quarters is that Seth is actually going to join up with Cena and The Rock also. you know He's always talking about like the the greater good of wrestling and stuff like that and everything. This is another total swear. but He joins up with them ah you know for reasons.
00:47:00
Speaker
I don't know. I see at this point, I feel like Seth is just such a loner. know what I mean? Like he's just of himself. You know what I mean? I don't like he fits in with anybody. Yeah. That, you know, he does to change the character. It doesn't, it doesn't make sense. That's been out there though. People are out there fantasy book and Seth actually helps to screw over. Or even if he doesn't necessarily join up with him, he just helps screw over Cody.
00:47:21
Speaker
Because don't think Seth ever got a proper thank you last year. Well, I was going to say, that was going to be my next point. To me, Seth has legit beef with Cody. I could see it coming full circle because, ah yeah, he helped Cody out last year and then, you know, hasn't gotten his proper dues. That gold dust and dusty roads hologram running is going to hit different, though.
00:47:39
Speaker
Wow. wow I think what you do, man, if you really get it going, yeah you have you do you do the big entrance like you had for Cody at SummerSlam, right? Where showed him walking all the way from backstage and you have a hologram Dusty pop up to give him a little pep talk right behind, like right before he hits Gorilla, dude, and comes out, man. We'll be a fucking dry eye in the house, dude.
00:48:00
Speaker
i move they ah They could totally do it, dude I mean, the entrance they gave him SummerSlam was awesome Where he had Farrow and then he got the pep talk from Arnie Anderson I thought that that moment was the most that I've ever been ah into Cody, man i am root for I'm rooting for him Sunday, man i hope he gets it done i hope we see Farrow on Sunday now that you bring Farrow up you know I know he hasn't been on the road, but I hope he makes his mania appearance Yeah, it's going to be an exciting weekend Yeah, it's going be fun. Overall, man, to me, there's been a lot of critiques on this Mania build. I don't think it's been a bad build. I just think it's been a little bit... It's kind of just been a middle-of-the-road to WrestleMania.
00:48:39
Speaker
And I think that it's got it's got the unfortunate job of following it up last year, which last year was just brilliant, man, with all the twists and turns, The Rock being back involved, you know, Roman's run. like Like we said, last year was just the big... It was big finale energy, dude. You had...
00:48:53
Speaker
Even and besides them, there were so many other really, really cool stories that were all kind of converging at the same time. And this year it feels more, you know, I just don't think we're i don't think it's we're in for an all-timer of a mania like we were last year. Yeah, we're rebuilding, you know what i mean? We're rebuilding for those big...
00:49:09
Speaker
big manias in the future anytime I hear people complain about the build always gotta to go back to our mania Wrestlemania 31 that was the worst build ever yeah we were legit like I remember me and Jordan texting like the week before our trip like man it sucks that year because we got our stuff our ticket stuff back in you know yeah September of that year we were thinking it was going to be Daniel Bryan and Brock Lesnar in the main event and stuff um And, you know, I remember like the week before we were like, man, we're kind of bummed that this is the mania that we're going to, you know, and to me, that's a top five mania ever, dude. Like you I'm biased because I was there, but that mania was freaking awesome. So much fun. Yeah, before 40, that was the last great WrestleMania. I mean, yeah, it's just there's been WrestleMania with good parts in it, but up until 40, that was the last like top to bottom great.
00:49:53
Speaker
collective Yeah. um i do yeah where Where are you guys at on the overall excitement level heading into it? I feel like a lot of why people aren't excited is justified. And I don't even feel like it has to do with the build.
00:50:05
Speaker
A lot of like the complaints that I've been hearing is people that usually go to WrestleMania, but are skipping this year. don't know. Just putting it in Vegas. Like I get why they did it, but i mean, how many people want to take their family to Las Vegas? Like,
00:50:19
Speaker
Maybe it's just me because I've been there quite a few times and I just know I would never take Zoe there until she's at least 21 years old. So maybe to me that takes away from some of it. And dude, the prices for everything are just absolutely ridiculous.
00:50:34
Speaker
It's insane, dude. I don't know if you guys paid attention, but they're doing... um post-WrestleMania something at the Fountain Blue Nightclub. Yeah. And they're having wrestlers there. And it's like $500 to do a meet and greet for $30. That's what I said. For that price, I'm joining the bloodline, dude.
00:50:51
Speaker
like I'm going to be a member of the bloodline if I'm getting if i'm paying those prices. That's just crazy that's just insane to me. It's like $400 to meet two wrestlers. yeah it's like It's like Naomi and Jimmy Uso, which all due respect to them, they're great, but they're not...
00:51:03
Speaker
400 bucks is great, dude. nate Yeah, Naomi, I mean, obviously, they've we've come a long way since, you know, we've been to Mania, but, I mean, Naomi and Jimmy Uso would have been, like, one of the freaking, like, calls. Free at access, yeah. Yeah, at access, where it's just like, you know, you just go stand in line and somebody comes out and starts signing autographs.
00:51:18
Speaker
Endeavor is all about squeezing out every last penny out their fans. Yeah, you saw all the wrestlers are going to be wearing patches on their uniforms that they're going to be selling on the top. I mean, on their ring gear, sorry. Don't get me started on that.
00:51:30
Speaker
actually think that's pretty cool. That's a scam. Yeah, I mean, I think it is a scam because you're going to seeing most of those, like somebody mentioned in the thing. Yeah, you're going to see the influence you're getting them but... If it was legit, I'd actually think that's a pretty damn cool idea. That's just a straight up money grab. I hate that they're doing that now they're just like collapsing the entire sports card market on, oh man, all these kids want to get this patch knowing full well they're never shipping that patch out.
00:51:56
Speaker
I mean... To this day, one of the coolest cards that they've that tops has done, it's not a wrestling card, but we're after the Olympics. They released a one of one Steph Curry, LeBron and Katie autograph card, and it has still not been found and all those cards sold out. So where's the card? and Yeah. I just, I don't get it, man. It's just, it just seems like. collector inside of me likes it, but yeah, I keep up with the sports cards and I know how much issues shit like that causes in the ah sports card industry. But like I said, if it was legit, just as a collector, I think that's pretty dang cool, man, to get one of those, those patches for mania. Yeah. Yeah, but like I said, you'll know, though they're going to send a lot of them to, like, influencers and stuff, like, in promotion. but Like, Sam Roberts will be freaking opening one and be oh my god, you guys! CM Punk!
00:52:39
Speaker
I got CM Punk's WrestleMania patch! You know, like, it's just, it's... Sorry, Sam. He's friend of the show. love Sam. Dude, I listen. and i love Sam Roberts. Okay. on richard strange dude No, you know why I say that? Because Sam Roberts, what were they giving away? They were like doing some sort of like Fanatics t-shirts, like the like, you know, old school t-shirts. And he opened them up. He's like, oh my God, I got Stone Cold Steve Austin's t-shirt. And I'm like, all right. Yeah, right.
00:53:07
Speaker
All right. um You know, happy for Sam. Again, no stray Sam, no beef Sam. We love Sam Roberts around here. um But it was just the first example I could think of. I could totally see him being like, you know, going on his YouTube and being like, oh, my God, see him punks, freaking tops card. Yeah, Errol Juani is going to open up like three packs and get all three patches. Like it just yeah feels like such a setup.
00:53:30
Speaker
You know, Pat McAfee's opening one on Monday and getting it somehow. Yeah, I agree. It's just so weird the way they're doing this. But anyway, yeah, that all all leaking back to just squeezing as much money out of people as possible. Speaking of that, ah totally taking it aside, did you guys see like there's like all this ah stuff going on social media, people posting about the the cost of food at Coachella?
00:53:53
Speaker
People were paying $30 for like an order of nachos and $17 for a cup of juice. um Yeah, freaking bananas, dude. like Life is just wild right now.
00:54:06
Speaker
We got listener mail sheet? Yeah.
00:54:10
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00:54:20
Speaker
Yeah, I see to go back to the Coachella thing. I just saw a tweet that I think like back when it first started, you could get a weekend pass for something like 240 bucks. And that included ah like, you know, a place to put your tent everything. And now it's something like 1700 bucks just to let to the concert. So I didn't even like stay there on the ground. It's yeah.
00:54:37
Speaker
yeah You have to buy a pass for everything. like If you want to park your car there, if you want to do a tent. I've never been to Coachella. It's never been like my scene. or like you know and and You get a wristband depending on what level access you have. It's right there on your wrist constantly. like What status you have. Exactly. If you're trying to like if you try like hook up, you can immediately know like what when you know division what weight class you play. You're a whore. Sorry. yeah yeah oh yeah It's like the star-bellied sneetches from Dr. Seuss where it's like, you know you know who's who, dude.
00:55:05
Speaker
Oh, deep cut. What? Y'all don't remember the Star-Bellied? I do. I just was that when we fired up this podcast 55 minutes ago, that the one of the very bottom list of things was supposed to get a reference to was the Star-Bellied Sneaches. You know, its I think it's just because it's one of those things I've read. When I used to nanny, I read it to the to kids and then I read it to my own kids, you know, just about. It's so a good story. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good story.
00:55:27
Speaker
Anyway, if you haven't read the Star-Bellied Sneaches, it's, not called the star bill its nitches it's It's read anything by that. Read everything you can by Dr. Seuss. True. You're not going to go wrong. Facts. All right. Tyson Neal Trevino says, uh, what match is going to be the sleeper of main, uh, of mania? I think we are, we discussed, I think we're going with, uh, I think we had, I think me and, uh, I think me and Jordan got, or no, yeah, you guys had Logan, AJ. I'm going with priest and McIntyre. Priest and McIntyre and Logan and Yeah. I think those are going the sleepers.
00:55:58
Speaker
Sam Rosenthal, oh, right right on track. Do you think ticket prices are going only going to keep going up? Will they ever return Mania to an arena? I think prices are going to keep going up until it doesn't make sense for them to go up anymore. yeah i think they I think they're still finding what the breaking point is because I'm sure at some point we're going to see Triple H come out you know on one of the nights and announce that this is the highest grossing WrestleMania of all time and everybody's going to go nuts. and It always cracks me up because it's like, are you guys clapping? You guys are really clapping for the fact that you guys have spent more money than any other WrestleMania crowd. Exactly. You got scammed. the same amount of people or less. It's the highest grossing.
00:56:34
Speaker
Again, dude, I'm with it, man. I kind of generally believe in like letting the free market do what it does. I don't know who the people are that are buying these fucking tickets, but people are buying them, dude. So I say if they're buying them, WWE has every... They ever have no obligation to lower the price, man. So I think they will keep going up for a little bit as long as the product's hot too, man. like That's the other thing, dude. If you know they hit a dry spell where...
00:56:53
Speaker
people aren't as into it, you'll see him start to drop. But I think the market's going to dictate the price from now on. I don't think, I think that's one thing, man, for all his faults. I think Vince McMahon was still all about, you know, families being at WWE. I think he saw the long-term value in that, right? Like getting, getting young kids to the shows and creating lifetime fans. That's why you saw that. That was the main reason they kept doing house shows, you know, house shows.
00:57:15
Speaker
They lost money on house shows for years, man. For years, they were losing money on house shows. But they still want to do it because they knew like you go to you know, some sea level town and freak in freaking, you know, South Dakota or whatever.
00:57:27
Speaker
Thank you. You get you make 100 fans for life, right? Exactly. Thank you for saving my poor state. I was, Nebraska was on tip my tongue and I pivoted the last second, man. um But, ah and for Arena, dude, I do think, especially with the two nights, man, I think it'd be awesome next time they go to Mania if they had night one in Madison Square Garden, dude. And I, you know, even if you got to make the tickets fucking 8,000 bucks a piece to make it make sense economically, I think a Mania, to go back to Madison, maybe for WrestleMania 50, dude. Let's do 50 in New York, night one's in Madison Square Garden, night two's at the Giants and Jets Stadium.
00:58:02
Speaker
I think could work. I don't know if they'd actually do it, but that would be my idea for it. To me, that's the only arena it could go back to. you And that's the one that would make sense for They could just set up those. What are those screens like where you watch the sports and it's like the giant screen in front of you and they could just sell tickets to everybody else to that. Like a watch party? yeah. yeah Yeah, like the watch party where it's like, you know, it looks like you're right there. There's one in Vegas and there's one in Dallas that it's like a gigantic screen and they do like that. They got they got like special camera angles. It's not regular TV cameras to make it look like you're right there. Like I'm sure they'll be. Yeah, there'll probably be a few dozen more of those so between now and then. But yeah, I think MSG for night one of a mania would would be freaking amazing, dude.
00:58:40
Speaker
Dude, I thought that they were going to do that for $40. I just don't think we're ever getting back to an arena show with the amount of money they're making. Like you said, until people stop buying tickets, they're going to keep going up.
00:58:52
Speaker
I just hope at some point it gets to be so much that just nobody can afford it and they have to. knock it back down which it'll never get back to where it was i mean yeah you've seen they they took out they took out all like the big i mean i don't know what they're gonna do for mania but like we don't have any big stages anymore
WWE Show Content and Food Plans
00:59:07
Speaker
any big entrance rate like it's like they could ah they put as many seats as possible into these places sounds like this one we're gonna get a big stage just because the tickets didn't sell as well and there's no tickets behind the stage or anything so it sounds like this one we're finally gonna get the big stage back
00:59:23
Speaker
And the thing is, it sounds like WWE was totally content with the amount of tickets that they sold. You know what I mean? like there There's still a lot of vacancy in the arena on both nights. It doesn't matter. they were They're still going to break the gate record.
00:59:34
Speaker
It literally doesn't matter. And that's all they care about is how much money came in. They don't care about how many people are there. many people, yeah. they didn't There was no desire to you know lower prices a little bit and sell out you know add a few more sections to it. they were they were so Yeah, think these prices are here to stay, unfortunately.
00:59:50
Speaker
Yeah, Tony Barker, he's talking about the bill. We've already covered the bill, but yeah, I think the bill for this year's WrestleMania has been a little hit and miss, depending on the the match and the ah you know who who it's been around. One one thing about that, as I wanted to say, is I've watched every episode of Raw on Netflix, and...
01:00:07
Speaker
Man, Raw and Netflix is so hit or miss, too. It just feels like some weeks it's just an absolute fire show. And then some weeks you just get, I don't know, just like an average old Raw that you used to see all the time.
01:00:20
Speaker
feels like there's a big lack of action since they went to Netflix, too, dude. Because half the time I'm catching them like I'm watching them later on, like i'm watching them late night while I'm playing video games. And I feel like, you know, it's almost like the pay-per-views. Like i you'll go eight or nine minutes where it's just like recaps or like hype videos and stuff before there's no promo or match. We question about that, yeah. yeah Um, Tony says, what's on the menu for night one and night two?
01:00:44
Speaker
um Night one, ah we're doing seafood Yeah, we're going to kebabs And then crab and lobster fried rice Yeah, so we're going to some seafood Veggie kebabs on night one With some crab and lobster fried rice And then on night two, I think we're just doing takeout, right? aren we Yeah, we'll figure out somewhere Get some takeout wings, something of sort going to do a little surf and turf Like classic ah Vegas dish Yeah, some steak and shrimp kebabs Along with some crab and lobster fried rice For night one And then, yeah, at night two, we'll play it by ear Yep.
01:01:13
Speaker
Eric Yazzie, what do you think Randy Orton is going to be doing at Mania? got to be doing something, man. don't know. I could see maybe they, you know they might set something up on SmackDown. We saw him RKO Nick Aldis. So maybe this something gets set up last second. I feel it feels like i don't think we're getting another match, man. I could see maybe they send a town down under to, you know, little comedy bit at some point to fill some time. And he goes out. It's couple RKOs. It feels like, unfortunately, i don't I don't think he's getting a match. What do you think? You think they slapped something together last second, Jordan?
01:01:43
Speaker
um No, it just at this point, it doesn't even make sense. I don't think I'm with you. I think we'll get like a comedy segment and a town down under seems like the perfect comedy segment to get to eat two RKOs and then maybe have McAfee roll in the ring and eat one as well.
01:01:59
Speaker
Yeah, he makes a lot of sense to get involved at the end of night, too. I mean, nobody has more shared history with Cody and ah Cena than Randy Orton. So, yeah, but I don't know. It seems like he's kind of been pivoted a little bit away from that story so far.
Pre-show Matches and Gimmick Matches
01:02:13
Speaker
Yeah. um Getting back to where you said on Netflix, Sam Rosenthal says, what will be longer this weekend, ah matches or the time between matches? Time between matches. I guarantee you there's less than 50% in-ring action.
01:02:25
Speaker
Yeah. Dude, that sucks, though. That's to the point we're at now. Mm-hmm. Yep. It's just wait for it, dude. Well, yeah, they said- We're going to have ah advertisements on ring gear before, you know, they're they're testing out the patches.
01:02:39
Speaker
this This time, they're like, oh, let's just put a little patch on the ring gear. And then next year, everybody's going be wearing freaking Snickers and Fortnite trunks, dude. I read something and you guys probably saw the same thing. they From start to finish, night one and two, it's nine hours each night with pre-show and everything. 18 hours is way too much. and I know Seth's going to say I'll take all the wrestling I can get. 18 hours is way too much of WrestleMania. Y'all know me, dude. Y'all got to wake me up twice during freaking... Chino will be asleep by 6.30. Each night, yes. Each night I'm going to be like, out. Out.
01:03:14
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Um, there was a question that went right along with that. Let me find it real quick. e Oh, Sam, Sam also says, why do you not think that, why do you think they do not do pre-show matches anymore?
01:03:30
Speaker
I don't know. That's a good question. I always kind of liked having one pre-show match. Yeah, I did too. I think the last time they had a pre-show match was a Elimination Chamber 2024. There was a pre-show match on that one that they did to get Indy Hartwell on the card.
01:03:45
Speaker
don't know. I've never really seen a good explanation for it. I mean, I'm sure they just stopped making sense to them to do it. What do you think, Jordan? Why did we stop having pre-show matches? I don't know, man, but I definitely miss it. I mean, you'd get some good ones in there, but now that it's two nights, like...
01:03:59
Speaker
Everybody cannot be on WrestleMania. You definitely don't need it. Yeah. we don't think you need it for Mania. Because if you put everybody on WrestleMania, loses its shine. Like, I don't, I don't know. and Yeah, but we don't even have all the titles being defended on Mania, though. Well, that also would been pretty damn hard to defend all the titles on WrestleMania. mean, that alone is, what, 12 matches?
01:04:18
Speaker
I know. So that's, ah i mean, it's like, you know, which problem is worse? If I could title if i could do something, I would just have, you remember but when we had the battle royals, dude, I would have like the men's battle royal on the pre-show on night one and like the women's on the pre-show night two, something like that. I love a good WrestleMania battle royale. Yeah, same. Bring back the fallopian tube battle royal.
01:04:38
Speaker
Yeah. well So Sam hit us with another awesome question. He said, which gimmick match should be an annual tradition at WrestleMania? You know me, I've been claiming this for years, dude. The stop having money in the bank be its own pay-per-view. Put the money in the bank matches. ah you yeah I think it makes sense to run mania to mania. Yeah, awesome way to give somebody something super meaningful. You give a bunch of ah guys something super meaningful to do without having to do a lot of storyline stuff, man. and You can do men's one night, women's the next night.
01:05:06
Speaker
Mm-hmm. a A little bit of breaking news for Seth
Breaking News and Post-WrestleMania Speculations
01:05:10
Speaker
in not a good way. John Moran apparently just got really badly injured. Great. I've been keeping up with the score. The Grizzlies are actually hanging in there with the... Just rolled his ankle and they said the grizzly arena went silent.
01:05:22
Speaker
Great. Yeah, yeah. They're done, dude. It's been a doomed season anyways. Sorry. Because somebody just texted me. They're like, you see John Moran just get hurt? I'm like, what?
01:05:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty that's pretty par for the course for the last few weeks for the Grizzlies. um Suckers. All right. ah Tony Barker, who do you think will debut or return to WWE on the Raw after Mania?
01:05:47
Speaker
why it looks like Why did they bring Rey Fenix back before the Raw after WrestleMania? I don't know That was the stupidest thing ever because they did they've done nothing with it since then. like yeah Dude, just save that for the night after WrestleMania. i just That was one of the dumbest things I think they've done on this bill was bring him back for no reason or bring him in for no reason at all.
01:06:09
Speaker
Only I can think is maybe he was just demanding and saying like he's ready to wrestle. You know, he's been off TV so long. Maybe he just didn't want to wait another couple of weeks. But yeah, it felt like he would made a lot of sense to wait till after after mania because it's just, yeah, it's been nothing. He's just had a couple of random matches on on SmackDown.
01:06:23
Speaker
I think Alistair is penciled in. Alistair Black's penciled in for. the SmackDown. I think he's got like some hints with the dates and stuff for the first SmackDown after Mania. So I'd say probably, know, maybe Rusev, dude. That's probably like the biggest name you could do.
01:06:38
Speaker
I really wish we would see Alistair show up on Saturday at NXT. I just, I really feel like that's the best place for him to go. i agree i have no faith in him going to the main roster and doing anything. It's just going to get lost in the shuffle again.
01:06:51
Speaker
Same. He's got one of those gimmicks, dude, that like, His gimmick seems really weird if it's not being presented as the biggest thing in the company. Kind of the same thing with the White Six. That's why it's so tough for them, dude. If they're not the biggest deal, it's just hard to make it work. Take it seriously. He's not going to be the biggest deal, obviously. I don't know, man. It just seems like a waste at this point.
01:07:15
Speaker
um Thomas Kilgore, which matches are you looking forward to most for night one and night two? um I'm looking forward to trip. You answer those, don't you? did we already yeah so i was i was in main events for both of yeah main events for both for for me um Eric Yazzie, how big of a deal do you think it is for so many big names not being on the WrestleMania card? Sheamus, Sami Zayn, Jimmy, Braun Strowman, and others. It sucks for those guys this year, but I like it. I think it should be a big deal getting a match on Mania, dude. I'm i'm with Jordan. I like it being a real... It's like making the playoffs in college football like it's ah it's a real or even you know NFL. It's a real achievement to make it to the Mania card, man.
WrestleMania Card and Exclusivity
01:07:55
Speaker
Yeah.
01:07:55
Speaker
As much as it sucks year to year for the handful of guys that just miss it, I think it makes makes it that much of a bigger deal for the guys that do make it. The Miz not being on feels a little weird. like Dude, I think he's gone on 17 straight years of being on WrestleMania, so that feels a little bit weird that he's not on it.
01:08:14
Speaker
I think Chelsea Green, to me, is the most agreed, man. Obviously, Randy Orton got left out because injury. I feel like Chelsea Green had the biggest year of anybody that's not on the card. Well, saw somebody say that she was supposed to hold. I saw it somewhere. I didn't fact check it. I think that was just people just, that was wishful thinking. It came up. As of now, there's no plans for her. People were kind of fantasy booking and kind of wished, because she would be good as the host, man. I think that'd be great for her.
01:08:37
Speaker
But as right now, she's not on the card. I'm sure they can think of something funny for her to do to show up, even it's just a backstage skit. Yeah. Jason Koenig asked what's on the menu. We already went over that. But Zach says, what special drinks are on the menu for this weekend? Y'all got anything cooked up? Are you just going to be drinking some pork chops? I mean, yeah, whenever random brews come up, unless Jordan had something special in mind, we hadn't really talked about any special drinking plans.
01:09:02
Speaker
no No, not yet. I mean, I'm sure we'll cook something by the time the night starts. Yeah.
Fun WWE Concepts and Conclusion
01:09:07
Speaker
ah Kevin Eugene, do you think the Nacho Man, Immortal Hulkster, or Billionaire Ted would make good Build-A-Figures in the Monday Night War set?
01:09:15
Speaker
not you I think they work more as like a special edition superstar set. You know, now we got a proof of concept with Mattel doing that with Cody and Dusty, I think maybe, maybe the superstar set, they make more sense. I just don't know.
01:09:28
Speaker
i don't know how you get them in the elite line and make them look different enough from like Hulk and Macho Man to to make it work. It would be funny though. I would love to see something like that. Cause I was, I remember I got the biggest kick out of those skits when I was, you know, an 11 year old seeing those. I need the rest of the oddities for the Build-A-Figure sets for the Monday Night Wars. Gold, Giant Kurgan. We need to speed this up at this point.
01:09:51
Speaker
All right, and that wraps up listener mail for this evening. All right, so that's a wrap for our WrestleMania preview. want to remind you guys, use code CHICKFOLLY to save 10% at ringside collectibles and go to www.chickfoley.com to join the Patreon.
01:10:06
Speaker
Jordan, you're the special guest, man. Hit us with some closing and thoughts and we'll get out of here. Yeah, just ah enjoy your WrestleMania weekends and ah you guys will hear from us all weekend. So have a good one. Stay tuned.