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Tennessee and BYU Go Down, Oregon Survives, and Tins Predicts a Big Firing
25 Plays10 months ago
The boys recap and react to the biggest news stories of this week in football including undefeated BYU losing to Kansas, Georgia taking down Tennessee in Athens, and Oregon surviving a close one against Wisconsin. The Chiefs take their first loss of the season and Tins is calling for the job of an NFL head coach.
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Transcript
Introduction and Host Backgrounds
00:00:12
Mason
What is up, everybody? Welcome to the Next Guy Up podcast. I got Tinsley here. He's back, ready to go, ready to fire on all cylinders. I got Zach here. And of course, myself, we are ready to go.
00:00:24
Mason
Listen, if we were on Netflix right now, we would be slow,
Weekend Sports and Fantasy Team Fails
00:00:29
Mason
taking 10 years to get on. There'd be a spinning wheel, but this is not Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul.
00:00:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:00:35
Mason
So you get you get your podcast primed and ready to go. No waiting around here, no loading. So how's it going, guys? How are we doing?
00:00:43
Zack
Feel great Yeah, whatever
00:00:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Feel great, a bunch of losers, our favorite teams all lost, all of our fans, all of our fantasy teams are going to I don't know about yours, Mason, you're like first place or something.
00:00:47
Mason
Mmm.
00:00:51
Mason
Mine's looking pretty good.
00:00:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah whatever you don't count ah for fantasy football griping. ah But yeah, me and Zach, we're going to lose even though we had our Rams receivers go off today.
00:01:06
Zack
Yep, that's a fact tough day Bad pretty
00:01:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The ball is lost. Tough weekend.
00:01:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Loser Central. This segment is brought to you by Loser Central.
00:01:19
Zack
yeah we are a tough break for all of our teams early I just This is one of those weekend un sweeps where you just it just feels like everything is bad.
00:01:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:01:28
Mason
Yeah, we've talked about a sweep.
00:01:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:30
Zack
I Football's not fun anymore. It's just like, ah, what are we doing?
00:01:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
morgan Morgan looked at me earlier and she was like, oh, I think i'm um ah it's gonna be a really close win in my fantasy and her real estate agent um league. She's like, I might win, I might lose, I'm not real sure yet. She was like like, I'm bummed if I lose. And I said, I'm going to lose in every one of my fantasy leagues, which I have, I'm in like 12, way too many. ah My favorite football team lost by 44 today, laughing stock of the internet.
00:02:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And the balls lost yesterday. I don't feel bad for your fancy football team today. I'll just be honest with you. So you should feel bad because my team can actually win some money on like any of your fancy teams.
00:02:10
Mason
Ooh, got him.
00:02:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that was good.
00:02:10
Zack
bottom
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Got me roasted.
00:02:15
Zack
Tough.
00:02:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is after she made me clean all day because it's it's nesting mode. I was telling Zach before Mason
Funny Anecdotes on Overpacking
00:02:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
buckle up for when you have a child. But right the week before or you know, it's yeah, Mason soon announcement.
00:02:22
Zack
Soon, Mason. ultimate Tonight.
00:02:28
Mason
No announcement.
00:02:30
Zack
He's buffering.
00:02:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh the it Well, the internet buffered, so I guess we'll just have to fill it in for him.
00:02:31
Mason
you yeah
00:02:34
Zack
There's something, there's something there.
00:02:38
Mason
I literally just got done roasting Jake Paul and the Mike Tyson fight for internet connections and ah not having to wait.
00:02:44
Zack
Oh, what a tough break.
00:02:46
Mason
Yeah. Here we are. Of course. Okay. Go ahead guys. Sorry. The nesting or what was it?
00:02:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just yeah, I've had to clean all day, not all day, but you know.
00:02:53
Mason
Yeah.
00:02:55
Zack
Yep. All day.
00:02:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
pretty it Felt like all day fold all the laundry clean things that I didn't know we needed to clean Didn't even know I had So that's that's fun No,
00:03:04
Zack
Didn't even know you had.
00:03:10
Mason
There we go. Do you have the on the go backpack ready?
00:03:10
Zack
Yeah.
00:03:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it's a suitcase um Yeah, I don't know my wife over packs for everything in life and we have a full-size now granted It is her stuff my stuff and the baby stuff all in one suitcase.
00:03:15
Mason
ah
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I'll be
00:03:25
Mason
Yeah.
00:03:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'll cut her a little slack there, but I was pretty good. So I was like, why can't we just throw it on a duffel bag and go? um But here we are.
00:03:33
Mason
yeah
00:03:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We've got a full suitcase. I keep joking. I was like, oh, yeah, it looks like we're moving into the into the hospital for two days.
Arizona Coyotes' Relocation Discussion
00:03:41
Mason
I feel like the overpacking was a thing for the cruise when we all went on a cruise ship together.
00:03:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But.
00:03:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's everywhere we go.
00:03:46
Mason
We all brought, yeah, it's a suitcase galore, like we're going to be gone for two months.
00:03:53
Zack
We brought a lot of stuff to the hospital.
00:03:53
Mason
And it was only like a four day cruise.
00:03:56
Zack
We were also there for like four or five days, which sucked.
00:03:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm hoping the last time
NFL Team Name Trivia and Origins
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
when we had our, um, we had Maddie, my second kid, we were only there for 24 hours because it was like when COVID was kind of popping off.
00:04:09
Zack
crazy It's crazy Yeah, we uh, there's a weird situation and when we were at the hospital to have our baby I had a co-worker who's actually very like at the same exact time and Which was weird.
00:04:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And so they're like, if you're good, then we're good. If you leave. And I was like, we're good. Let's go.
00:04:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow. well
00:04:28
Zack
Yeah, and There was their second and they like had their baby and was leaving the hospital and we were still like had not had a baby yet and we're just still like barely even getting started with it all. It was like, Oh, this sucks. Um, cause they were out, but they always, yeah, they say that the second one is always quicker.
00:04:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's faster each time. Yeah, which very nervous for this one because this is our third and he's our it's the doctor told Morgan on Friday. Well, you might make it to the our plan is to have an induction on the 25th. She said, we'll see. I don't I don't think you're going to make it that far. So.
00:05:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
for
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Zack
I think you should swing it to where she goes into labor in the UPS truck.
00:05:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, and then I can just.
00:05:17
Zack
And technically she's born as a UPS employee. It's kind of like how the country sings
00:05:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh.
Creative Team Names Across Leagues
00:05:22
Zack
work where if you're born in the country, you're an automatic citizen.
00:05:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm That that would help his senior, you know if he wants to work there he's already by the time Yeah, he walked he He walks in and is already able to go to driving school.
00:05:26
Zack
I think that something like that could happen. I know you could be like first in line turns 18, he gets the job.
00:05:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Unlike me. I had to wait four years to get the drive We'll
00:05:41
Zack
I think there's something to that maybe.
00:05:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
see if we can see if ah we work that out Third-generation EPS kid
00:05:45
Zack
Like what the heck, this kid was born in the UPS truck.
00:05:53
Zack
I'm sure it's like ah pretty spacious in the back of that truck. You could probably have a baby back there.
00:05:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Depends on what time of day. if ah If I've gotten rid of all the packages or not, or if I've ah had to do all the pickups, the the very beginning of my day, I'm just climbing over stuff to find people's packages.
00:06:02
Zack
Oh, you should make sure it's later. You're fine.
00:06:11
Zack
climbing over respectfully, making sure not to damage anything.
00:06:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Respectfully and carefully, obviously. Right, right. Never, never damage anything.
00:06:18
Zack
For the record, UPS sponsor us.
00:06:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think I don't think they're up for that.
00:06:25
Mason
yeah Well, we don't need brainy bridges like that.
00:06:27
Zack
I would like to get sponsored by UPS.
00:06:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i don't I don't think UPS wants to spend some ad dollars with us.
00:06:32
Zack
Oh, they do. They gotta add dollars to spend.
00:06:38
Zack
um Okay, before we get into today's action, i've I've got a little bit of a trivia for you guys this this actually came about um Pretty Organically I was watching a game today.
00:06:51
Zack
I was like in and my wife was like I wonder whether Called that and I always started i started thinking outside. I'm not sure so it's a this is a NFL name origin of some of the oh Some of the names that are a little bit interesting in NFL just see if you guys know your history here
00:07:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ooh.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:07:08
Mason
Mm.
00:07:09
Zack
I'm feeling some of you will. Some of them are not as hard. We're not going to pick any of the like easy ones. um But there's four I've got here that i'm I'm interested to see if you guys know. So we're going to start off the one that first made me kind of look this up and get started. night And when i when I saw the answer, I was like, oh, that makes sense. I should have known that. We're going to start off with a team. Big win today. Ruined all of Ten's Hopes and Dreams. Buffalo Bills.
00:07:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:07:36
Mason
Mm.
00:07:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep Shout out the ah cranky old dog that barks at everything parlay.
00:07:41
Zack
So close.
00:07:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I hit I hit Florida and Kansas money lines Thought the Chiefs would come through for me I did round robbing it and I have said in the past that you should take this parlay as a parlay But also the singles
00:07:44
Mason
yep
00:07:50
Mason
Yep.
College Team Name Critique
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
if you did that all season which I wish I had you'd be up I'm gonna crunch the math on it, but I've gone two-and-one on that underdog parlay quite a bit
00:08:00
Zack
Rush the math.
00:08:05
Mason
What was the plus money on BYU?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:08:07
Mason
I feel like they were, no, they, okay.
00:08:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Kansas was Kansas like plot Yeah, none of them were big none of them were big dogs like Florida was plus 110 I think Kansas was like plus 160 and then Chiefs were plus 115 It was only plus 900 which is like the smallest one I've given out Still still would have been nice to hit I round robin did though so um I made some money but still mad Origins
00:08:10
Zack
They're two and a half point favorites.
00:08:12
Mason
And then what was the,
00:08:16
Mason
Okay. Florida wasn't a okay.
00:08:28
Zack
Still pretty fat though.
00:08:34
Mason
Okay. So the origins of the Buffalo Bill's name.
00:08:38
Zack
e Do you either of you guys have an idea of why what the bills come from? Why it's called the Buffalo Bills?
00:08:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is where they're like bills. The, the buffaloes are, but is that where they're native to up there in New York?
00:08:51
Zack
But what did what is a bill? What are the bills?
00:08:54
Mason
I was gonna say, is that like a history thing, something about a war? and I don't know.
00:09:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know about the Buffalo bills.
00:09:01
Zack
I will tell you they originally started off as the Buffalo Bisons.
00:09:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:09:05
Zack
and they held a contest in 1947 to rename the team. ah the So the Buffalo Bisons is kind of where that original logo comes from, right?
00:09:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:09:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:15
Mason
Okay.
00:09:16
Zack
The Bills, it actually was named after the famous Wild Wild West showman, Buffalo Bill Cody. So his name was his nickname is Buffalo Bill, and so they just named the team Buffalo Bills.
00:09:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
hu
00:09:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've never heard that. That is crazy.
00:09:34
Zack
ah I looked it up and I was like, hmm, that's very interesting.
00:09:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:09:38
Zack
Yeah, buffalo bisons.
00:09:39
Mason
Did not know that.
College Football Playoffs Scenarios
00:09:40
Zack
That's an interesting one because buffaloes and bisons are very similar, but very different, but like so like they're kind of like alligators and crocodiles. They're like very similar, but they're not.
00:09:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:09:50
Zack
Buffaloes and bisons are the same. So that's, I didn't know that. Pretty interesting. Okay.
00:09:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:56
Zack
Well, I, uh, I'm up one for one so far. So let's see why you guys might have a better idea of, um, the green Bay Packers.
00:10:01
Mason
Starting out hot.
00:10:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's a meat packing ah thing up there in Milwaukee.
00:10:12
Zack
Uh, close.
00:10:13
Mason
I was going to say cheese packing, cheese packing.
00:10:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's not meat.
00:10:14
Zack
It's close.
00:10:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's maybe not meat.
00:10:18
Zack
Um, it looks like. They just, it's called the Acme Packing Company. I don't know exactly what they packaged, but it says, the team's founder, Curly Lambo, was a shipping clerk at Indian Packing and asked the company for money to buy uniforms and use their football field.
00:10:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
okay
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:10:35
Zack
In exchange, Lambo agreed to name the team after the company, the Packers.
00:10:39
Mason
Only team to not have an owner. The people are the owner.
00:10:43
Zack
True.
00:10:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, you can buy you can buy stock in it.
00:10:46
Zack
The people. There you go. Indian Packing Company.
00:10:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They have an owner.
00:10:51
Mason
Well, you know what I mean.
00:10:53
Zack
Okay, this is a this is a more well-known one.
00:10:53
Mason
It's like not technically one owner. Yes, go ahead.
00:10:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:57
Zack
I think you guys will get this, but ah San Francisco 49ers.
00:11:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The prospectors, they're looking for gold, right?
00:11:02
Zack
True.
00:11:03
Mason
youve got
00:11:04
Zack
Very good. 1849 is the year that people flock to California to look for gold.
00:11:06
Mason
Hey.
00:11:11
Zack
That was discovered at Sutter's Mill in Northern California.
00:11:15
Mason
Nailed it.
00:11:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
00:11:16
Zack
Crushed it. Okay, last one.
00:11:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They couldn't find any gold today against the Seahawks. Haha, losers.
00:11:22
Zack
Got him.
00:11:25
Zack
Okay.
00:11:26
Mason
I was hoping you were actually going to say the Seahawks was the next one, because that's not a real bird. So I always wondered where that came from.
00:11:31
Zack
That is interesting.
00:11:31
Mason
But go ahead. Yeah.
00:11:33
Zack
I don't know the answer to that one. This is the last one.
00:11:34
Mason
OK.
00:11:35
Zack
ah The Cleveland Browns.
00:11:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
o
00:11:40
Zack
UPS maybe.
00:11:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
nope
00:11:46
Mason
I do not know this one. I just know that the mascot's like but a dog.
00:11:50
Zack
yeah Interesting you just you just say it so much that it just becomes like a thing But then you start thinking about like what the heck why did we name it the Browns?
00:11:52
Mason
Yeah.
00:11:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nope They have that weird mascot they put on the 50-yard line it's like the elf looking character but like I don't really know why they're called the Cleveland Browns and they've moved twice and
00:12:00
Mason
Yeah.
00:12:06
Zack
Oh Yeah, them teams mascot is brownie the elf whose name comes from Scottish folklore that's not the answer oh
00:12:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause they had a team and it went, uh, Yeah.
00:12:18
Mason
couldn't tell you.
00:12:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. I don't know.
00:12:21
Zack
Um, the team got its name, uh, it's named after their very first head coach, Paul E. Brown. Very original. The team's owner, Arthur B.
00:12:29
Mason
So it's as boring as the
00:12:32
Zack
Mickey McBride, originally wanted to name the team after the winner of a fan contest, but the winning name, the Panthers, was already owned by another Cleveland football team. Hmm. Carolina, eventually, I guess McBride then decided to name the team after Brown, who was a popular figure in Ohio and head, and head coached Ohio state to a national championship.
00:12:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:12:52
Zack
He is known as the father of the modern offense. He was the head coach from 1946 to 1962.
00:13:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Interesting.
00:13:02
Mason
Look at that.
00:13:02
Zack
Well, Brown.
00:13:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Why are the Titans the Titans? You guys know?
00:13:07
Zack
I don't know why they were titans. I mean, I know the titans are Greek mythological creature that are like half God, half human. I mean, I know this is the thing.
00:13:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's because the Parthenon is in Nashville.
00:13:16
Zack
Oh, that's kind of stupid reason.
00:13:17
Mason
Is that really?
00:13:19
Zack
It makes sense. I would believe that.
00:13:22
Mason
How about Jaguars?
00:13:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Jaguars were almost the Bulls. um There was a like a.
00:13:29
Zack
Jacksonville Bulls, sick.
00:13:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, there's a football team like non pro football team, but it's pretty big in Jacksonville that like a lot of people would go and watch the games and that's what they almost named the team. I don't know why they named him the Jaguars.
00:13:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I have no clue. i don That's one.
00:13:45
Zack
and cool
00:13:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's random. It's very random. Maybe and maybe it was because they came into the league the same year as the Panthers.
00:13:48
Zack
and some of them are brand
00:13:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So maybe that they were just like, I don't know, let's do like big cats for the two new teams.
00:13:56
Zack
Cool Titans is not the worst team name.
00:13:57
Mason
There you go. ah No.
00:14:00
Zack
I don't mind the Titans. I think it's kind of cool um Jaguars is pretty cool, too. I think Jaguars is better than Panthers.
00:14:09
Zack
I Think it's a it's a more distinct kind of cat
00:14:11
Mason
Speak.
00:14:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:14
Zack
And it isn't that either, though.
00:14:14
Mason
three Speaking of name changes. I I still feel like the commanders got it wrong. They could have went with so many cooler options apparently someone when the commanders were changing their team name bought ah the rights to like a ton of different names and Was gonna try to sell it for like millions of dollars to him and they were like we'll just find another one and I don't think it really stuck but speaking and I'm not a big hockey player
00:14:30
Zack
It's awesome. I don't mind the commandment. I think that's kind of cool.
00:14:40
Mason
I'm not a huge hockey person, but I was looking at like scores the other day and there's a new team to even things out now. Cause the Kraken a couple of years ago, but and I'm pretty sure there's just like a team in the NHL called like the hockey team. Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
00:14:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's so yeah, um Arizona lost their team and they moved them to Utah and they kind of did what Washington did when they were just the Washington football team. Utah's not going to have ah this team forever, I don't think.
00:15:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Maybe they are hockey club.
00:15:09
Zack
Huh.
00:15:11
Mason
Utah Hockey Club.
00:15:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. even Even if you look at their jerseys, their jerseys are terrible.
00:15:14
Zack
Sick.
00:15:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're just very plain.
00:15:17
Mason
It's a blue circle with Utah and black letters and then hockey on the top with in white letters and then club on the bottom and white letters.
00:15:29
Zack
Maybe I'll do the same activity, but with like the NBA and the NHL and the MLB, because I feel like there's some teams there. I'm like, how did you get that name?
00:15:38
Mason
I think hockey's done the best here recently.
00:15:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I.
00:15:40
Mason
Cracking and the the nights were fun, like, logo.
00:15:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
hu Yeah, those are cool.
00:15:43
Mason
I was just looking at some of the...
00:15:44
Zack
Golden Knights.
00:15:45
Mason
I feel like...
00:15:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I did.
00:15:49
Mason
Sorry, go ahead.
00:15:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sorry, no, I was just I just looked up real quick why the Jaguars were named the Jaguars. It was a fan named the team contest and ah someone submitted the Jaguars because the oldest living Jaguar in the United States was living in the Jacksonville Zoo at the time.
00:16:07
Zack
There you go.
00:16:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So there he is. that's that's what That's why we did that. Cool.
00:16:12
Zack
Why don't we have any elephant themed teams?
00:16:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Rhinos, I think rhinos would be cool.
00:16:17
Zack
It's pretty sick.
00:16:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Elephants would be cool.
00:16:19
Zack
Hippos.
00:16:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think college football needs to have more creative names.
00:16:28
Zack
Just dogs.
00:16:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, everybody's a dog or a wild cat or a cat of some form.
00:16:30
Zack
Lots of dogs.
00:16:35
Mason
So I was looking at the Arizona coyotes were sold to the Utah jazz owner Ryan Smith and they relocated did not know why
00:16:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
OK. That's right.
00:16:44
Zack
Arizona having a hockey team is just one of those weird I Think you thought what have you thought just named their team like I feel like a lot of
00:16:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They had a really strong fan base. They were very upset that they lost the team. The owner the owner was forced to sell because he like didn't have and NHL told him like your stadium is not. Up to par with the rest of the league and blah, blah, blah, and you're not making enough money, so we're going to make you sell the team. But he says he's going to try and get a team back. The Arizona owner.
00:17:15
Zack
So there's a team in Knoxville. It's like a minor league team semi-crow and they're the ice bears Um, what if they just named it the ice jazz just put the word ice in front of it and then you can just name it whatever other team you went Yeah
00:17:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm That'd be fun Yeah, I think I think you could have been fine with
00:17:27
Mason
I think ice bears was way better. No, Zach, we've talked about minor team, uh, league names and like mascots and stuff on here before.
00:17:42
Mason
And there's some really, like, I feel like there's some pretty good ones out there.
00:17:46
Zack
We've got some really bad ones, lots of bad ones.
00:17:48
Mason
You're not wrong.
00:17:50
Zack
There's some small colleges who have really bad mascots, just like outrageous.
00:17:55
Mason
Like, and NFL I definitely get rid of the Browns and command and the commanders like those would be my two like if you had to pick two teams The
00:18:01
Zack
You want to bounce? Maybe after you just learned the origin and you still hate it?
00:18:07
Mason
coach the first coach name what to do Would you pick a if you had to pick a team name is there any ah off the bat that you would change Well ones that you would get rid of
00:18:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Whoop D do.
00:18:11
Zack
Wow, this guy's a hater.
00:18:16
Zack
oilers pretty cool oilers is pretty cool um if i could get rid of it that's pretty bad yeah it's a pretty bad name like what if your name the tennessee tennesseans the
00:18:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I would get rid of the Texans just in general, just get rid of them.
00:18:25
Mason
he
00:18:27
Mason
Yeah, it's a pretty bad name.
00:18:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, the Houston Texans, that's terrible.
00:18:33
Zack
nashville tennesseans like that would be bad why did they kick it away with it
00:18:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm, I don't like the New York. Yeah, the Jets and Giants. I think those are both lame.
00:18:41
Mason
I would say jets, maybe.
00:18:47
Mason
There you go.
00:18:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're also not even in New York. They play in New Jersey. Frauds.
00:18:50
Zack
the fact I'm
00:18:53
Mason
Just call them frauds.
00:18:54
Zack
sure the Jets is because of their proximity to the airports and stuff um'm there's probably lots really I know that
00:18:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They used to be the giant or the Titans. they They were the New York Titans for a while. Yeah, you can. they Yeah, they've got a throwback jersey and Madden you can wear.
00:19:10
Zack
I think it's interesting that I would love for someone to answer this question for me.
00:19:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's ugly.
00:19:15
Zack
If there's already a New York Giants or New York Jets and they both play in New Jersey, why is one of them not the New Jersey Nets or New Jersey Giants?
00:19:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because New York is flashy name, more media.
00:19:28
Zack
Much bigger market.
00:19:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:32
Mason
And you think with how big it is, you think they both would have their own stadium instead of sharing one.
00:19:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cheap.
00:19:38
Mason
Got them. Yeah.
00:19:40
Zack
One of the, I've talked about this before.
00:19:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cheap dorks.
00:19:41
Mason
Multibilling dollar company.
00:19:44
Zack
That's, I mean, I get it in New York why you would not want to build your own stadium because of how like the real estate situation there is just insane. And getting enough real estate in like anywhere in the New York City area is just crazy to build a stadium.
00:20:00
Zack
The one that's indefensible to me, the Miami hurricane. If I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times, Build a stadium.
00:20:10
Zack
what that just It makes me so like ah irrationally frustrated that
00:20:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
In-Depth College Playoff Analysis
00:20:15
Zack
a team Miami's Caliber is just like, nah, I think we're good.
00:20:19
Zack
But we'll just use the Dolphin Stadium.
00:20:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
don't I do you think there's enough room in Miami?
00:20:24
Zack
Close, surely, to goodness.
00:20:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You think so?
00:20:26
Zack
There's some space.
00:20:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know.
00:20:28
Mason
Gotta be something somewhere.
00:20:30
Zack
And I mean,
00:20:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They got a lot of clubs down there. They haven't got enough room for two football stadiums.
00:20:34
Zack
They don't have any, the fans just don't want to go. It's just not the same. It's pretty far off campus, I think. It's like a, I think it's it's a pretty good distance from the actual campus to get to the stadium.
00:20:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:45
Zack
And so I think a lot, I don't know. Their attendance is usually pretty bad. Such a big football program. It's such a weird thing. Like Southeastern Missouri has their own football stadium, but University of Miami doesn't.
00:20:59
Zack
Like I just don't, I don't know, whatever.
00:21:01
Mason
It's a pretty good point.
00:21:02
Zack
That's my thing. that's That's always been a thing for me.
00:21:05
Mason
Also, we were talking about New York sharing a stadium.
00:21:05
Zack
Weird.
00:21:07
Mason
Always, you should look up on YouTube how they change over banners, pictures. It's pretty, the field, like the amount of work, I'm like, is this even worth it?
00:21:17
Mason
Like obviously, but the the crew, That has to work like around the clock just like change things That's why they obviously they they try to do their home and away games on different days But if they do both home, it's usually like sunday and monday So they have to flip that in a day, but I saw a video one time I was like, this is insane what they have to do They change the menu to fit like the new york jets theme like everything they go through.
00:21:34
Zack
It's crazy.
00:21:39
Zack
Pretty
00:21:42
Mason
Yeah the cups everything out.
00:21:42
Zack
cool.
00:21:44
Mason
So it's insane
00:21:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A lot of times with NBA teams, they'll share the stadium with the hockey team. And those are, I like watching those like when they have to take up the floor, they roll it out and they roll in the ice.
00:21:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like, I think that's pretty cool.
00:21:57
Mason
It's crazy.
00:22:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I guess that's probably what they would do if Nashville ever got a NBA team. I don't know if the NBA is ever going to expand though.
00:22:05
Mason
They would just.
00:22:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It doesn't feel like they are.
00:22:10
Zack
You think Nashville is a market that could...
00:22:10
Mason
Memphis wouldn't move.
00:22:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:22:13
Zack
I feel like Memphis has already struggled sometimes.
00:22:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
When Memphis is good, their crowd shows up, but when they're not, they don't that's bad.
00:22:24
Mason
Nashville could take on a baseball team.
00:22:26
Zack
I think they will eventually.
00:22:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think so. I think they will, but I don't think it'll, I don't know. I think the Braves have such a stronghold of the whole South because they've been here so long. They've been everybody's team for so long.
00:22:40
Zack
I wonder who people in Tennessee cheered for for the NFL before the Titans moved.
00:22:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Probably the Falcons, I guess.
00:22:51
Zack
Never thought about that. Hmm.
00:22:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or the Colts, I mean, the Colts are adjacent like if you're in I'm just thinking of Tennessee, but.
00:22:59
Zack
Sure.
00:23:00
Mason
yeah
00:23:02
Zack
Hmm.
00:23:04
Zack
Oh, yeah, I always forget Tennessee is such a young franchise and the history of the NFL.
00:23:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm only since 98 or yeah 99 first year here Yeah, I know the Jaguars went 13 and 3 that year they only had three losses All three of them were you guys and that's why I hate that's why I hate Titans If anybody ever wondered I was I was very much six So I was I took it extra personal.
00:23:14
Zack
Like, uh, 2000, yeah, like 99. They reached the Super Bowl in like their first year as a franchise.
00:23:22
Mason
Yeah.
00:23:25
Zack
downhill.
00:23:26
Mason
Hmm.
00:23:33
Zack
You were like six.
00:23:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I
00:23:42
Zack
Mmm.
00:23:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
still to this day. Hold a grudge.
00:23:48
Zack
He old grudges, everybody.
00:23:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Big grudge guy.
00:23:53
Zack
Um, do you want to get to the football, everybody?
00:23:56
Mason
Let's do it.
00:23:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, let's talk about let's talk about what happened this weekend.
00:23:59
Zack
Let's talk about it.
00:24:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What a lot happened.
00:24:03
Zack
Oh.
00:24:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A lot of stuff.
00:24:05
Zack
My Conkey headed to the locker room. Thanks for the update, Mason.
00:24:09
Mason
You just saw that text.
00:24:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
freaking quitting. Yeah. And Quinton Johnson, I had on my team up until like two weeks ago and dropped him and now he's going off.
00:24:11
Zack
Gosh.
00:24:14
Zack
Oh.
00:24:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He learned how to play football again.
00:24:21
Zack
OK, do we want to get this over with and do our playoff preview playoff ca potential?
00:24:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I hate fantasy football. Yeah.
00:24:27
Zack
um There are some eliminations.
00:24:27
Mason
Let's do it.
00:24:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Some people got eliminated.
00:24:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Truly.
00:24:33
Zack
I'll be honest with you. I texted everybody today. I was like, I do not want to talk about the stupid playoff picture today, but I know we're going to have to. We, I have a diligence to to do to the audience to talk about this stuff, even if it makes me want to throw up, which it does.
00:24:46
Zack
Um, playoffs, Tennessee, big loss to Georgia, not eliminated yet. There are some eliminations to go over. So let's talk about it. Let's start off with G5 Boise state.
00:24:59
Zack
Great work. Um,
00:25:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Played with a little fire there.
00:25:03
Zack
They did, was they played a tight game for some of it. They've started, um yeah it's a little bit scary for them at times. Tulane is also kind of pushing at this point. ah Tulane does not look bad and they've got had a pretty good schedule. If Boise State trips up, Tulane will be right there.
00:25:20
Zack
um
00:25:23
Zack
At large, we've got Army and Notre Dame.
00:25:28
Zack
They play next week, so one of them, it's an elimination game. Full stop.
00:25:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Come on, come on, army.
00:25:34
Zack
Army winning would be huge for the Vols.
00:25:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he
00:25:38
Mason
is Is the whole US an army fan next?
00:25:39
Zack
Can anybody give me a line on that? What's the line on that game?
00:25:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, it's gotta be bad.
00:25:44
Zack
I bet it's 20 and a half. I bet it's 21 points.
00:25:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Let's see.
00:25:48
Zack
so
00:25:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I got you. Um, come on.
00:25:52
Mason
16.
00:25:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
17 on ESPN.
00:25:55
Zack
ah
00:25:57
Mason
OK, you can.
00:25:58
Zack
Taking another day.
00:25:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Army's got a quarterback who's like an actual good college quarterback. something maybe did Navy doesn't have that.
00:26:04
Zack
Okay, you like trick.
00:26:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Could be, it won't be, but it could be.
00:26:10
Zack
As far as I'm concerned, elimination game.
00:26:10
Mason
dr Draft Kings has it at 16. You can bet army to be win the championship at plus 80,000.
00:26:21
Zack
The natural JV chip?
00:26:23
Mason
Yeah.
00:26:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
00:26:26
Mason
it's ah It's literally at the bottom right here.
00:26:27
Zack
Oh my gosh.
00:26:28
Mason
It's like 80,000.
00:26:31
Zack
Okay, ACZ, we have an elimination in the work. Shoot the cannons for Pitt. Pitt at one time undefeated, took their third loss to Clemson this week.
00:26:42
Zack
They're out.
00:26:43
Mason
See you later, District 5.
00:26:45
Zack
Remaining teams. Miami, Clemson, SMU. If it ended today, SMU, Miami would be playing for AC Championship and Clemson would likely miss the playoffs.
00:26:57
Zack
So only one of those teams are actually going, but there's three still left. Big 12. our second Our second elimination of the week, fire off the canons for Kansas State.
00:27:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
rip
00:27:12
Zack
Kansas State had a good season, still have had a good season. Those took their third loss. I believe they are officially out of contention for a Big 12 Championship at this point. um Remaining teams, I actually had to add a team though too.
00:27:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's a bad loss too.
00:27:25
Zack
I looked at the standings and I think statistically it's possible. BYU, Iowa State, Colorado, Would hate to have a Colorado playoff ticket right now.
00:27:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Would hate to have it.
00:27:37
Zack
By the way, if they went out and they make the Big 12 championship, um Arizona State, I think technically alive.
00:27:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, Arizona State's back in it.
00:27:47
Zack
Check my math somebody, but I think they only have two Big 12 losses. So I think they're technically right there in the mix. I don't know how the tiebreakers work. I didn't do, I didn't do that far into it, but they're right there at the top.
00:27:58
Zack
So they've like sneaky been pretty good.
00:28:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, they're eight and two. I don't know why this isn't loading. I'm trying to see who they lost to. That coach that they have is very young at Arizona State. I'm blanking on his name, but he's he's turning around over there. Let's see.
00:28:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:28:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dang, who did they lose to?
00:28:28
Zack
on the edge of my seat.
00:28:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Why is it?
00:28:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So they beat Mississippi State. ah They lost to Texas Tech and Cincinnati.
00:28:36
Zack
Okay.
00:28:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, both big 12.
00:28:38
Zack
Ooh, Cincinnati loss doesn't age well, but so I think they would need some help to make the big 12 championship, but I think there's a possibility. So I i put them on the list. I once again think only one, especially now that BYU took a loss this week, ah there will only be one team coming out of the big 12.
00:28:55
Zack
so Four teams technically, but only one's coming out. OK, big 10. I've got four teams here. It's been the same. It's not going to change. Until next week, maybe. Fingers crossed, Indiana loses by 100, and it becomes three teams. But we've got Oregon, Penn State, Indiana, Ohio State. Congrats to all of you people who only played Ohio State. OK, SEC is where things get weird.
00:29:25
Zack
um I've got six teams here. Some people in the media are starting to add a seventh team to this list, which I do not like.
00:29:35
Mason
Mmm.
00:29:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who, Missouri?
00:29:36
Zack
South Carolina. Three losses, but all two very good teams. um And they're playing some good football right now.
00:29:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no, you don't want to see South Carolina right now.
00:29:47
Zack
No, they are kind of a grim reaper. They're coming for Clemson, but I think some crazy stuff would have to happen for them to get in with three losses. um But there're they look pretty scary though. Okay. The other six teams are A and&M, Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Bama, Ole Miss. um Texas and A&M still play each other. So there's a chance A&M picks up a third loss there or Texas picks up a second loss. Texas gets a second loss all of a sudden. We're just going to have some chaos.
00:30:22
Zack
um I don't know what's gonna happen there. i don't Whatever. um
00:30:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think A and&M's very good.
00:30:30
Zack
here's Here's the thing.
00:30:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's my thing.
00:30:32
Zack
Okay, it's it's time for the talk. ah Tennessee at this point is needs but need some help.
00:30:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Odd man out.
00:30:43
Zack
I think if it if it started today, Tennessee would be maybe the first team left out of the playoffs. That's kind of how I think things are gonna shake out. And they're basically going to switch spots with Georgia and be in that kind of final spot. Maybe end up 12th in the rankings. But with the big 12 and ACC team being and the G5, I just think ah they're going to be part of the 1213 spot. And I think they're going to be left out of the field right now. I think the three there's three scenarios that I think have a decent likelihood of happening that Tennessee could get in.
00:31:23
Zack
And we need one of them first.
00:31:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just stay one.
00:31:27
Zack
um And I think maybe the the most likely is Indiana gets boat race by Ohio State. Indiana's lack of strength of schedule um drops them out.
00:31:41
Zack
That's gonna be how the committee's looking at schedules at that point, I don't know.
00:31:46
Zack
But that's one thing that could happen, I think.
00:31:47
Mason
There are 12. Sorry, Zach. There are 12 point underdog plus 360 to win.
00:31:53
Zack
I think if they lose by like 28, I think the conversation would happen of does Indiana deserve a playoff spot with their schedule? I don't know. I think it could happen. Number two, most likely at this point, I think is Florida beats Ole Miss next weekend. Florida has been also a team no one really wants to play right now. DJ Lagway looks much better. This team,
00:32:19
Zack
um We'll talk about one more at Florida later, ah but Ole Miss loses, I think would help Tennessee tremendously.
00:32:26
Mason
They're nine and a half point favorite.
00:32:26
Zack
Third thing that could happen. Over Florida, in the swamp, anything can happen.
00:32:30
Mason
Yeah.
00:32:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Listen, I said, I told, I said this a couple weeks ago. I said, old missus either going to lose to Arkansas or Florida.
00:32:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, if they didn't lose to Arkansas and I'm a man of my word. So they're going to lose the floor.
00:32:38
Zack
Hmm.
00:32:44
Zack
The Vols need it bad. third and probably the least likely, but definitely could happen. ah USC beats Notre Dame.
00:32:56
Zack
USC has been a hot and cold team. We know that they they have the potential to play pretty well. um Notre Dame has not really faced a team with a pulse since Texas A and&M. And that includes their loss to and NIU. And so I don't know what's going to happen there, but that would be big.
00:33:17
Zack
because I think Notre Dame would be eliminated, and that would open up that last spot that the Vols would need to to get in. I think that would get a fifth SEC team in at that point.
00:33:29
Mason
There's not a sp spread on that one yet because Notre Dame plays Army, so that's two weeks away.
00:33:33
Zack
Thank you, Mason.
00:33:34
Mason
You forgot the part where Army beats Notre Dame. That was your...
00:33:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's true.
00:33:38
Zack
um I would also accept that. Yep.
00:33:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well no, that that that's kind of a wash at that point.
00:33:46
Mason
Yeah, because then Army would get in, right?
00:33:47
Zack
I don't know the committee's putting Army in, regardless.
00:33:49
Mason
I don't think so.
00:33:53
Mason
The whole world would want it.
00:33:53
Zack
Only one G5 team's going in. So whether it's Army or Boise State or Tulane or whatever, only one's going in.
00:33:56
Mason
Or Boise State.
00:33:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
True true true.
00:33:59
Zack
Doesn't matter.
00:34:00
Zack
They're not putting two G5 teams in. So that's where I'm at. Tennessee, this is a rough weekend. I thought there was a chance. First half looked great.
00:34:11
Zack
Just got outplayed. Receivers can't catch the ball. It's hard to win a game with a concussed quarterback.
00:34:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tough.
00:34:18
Mason
Do we know...
00:34:18
Zack
If your receivers are dropping wide open balls, if you're, I mean, we had a couple of bounces didn't go our way for sure. A couple of fumbles did whatever.
00:34:27
Mason
We're called incomplete passes. Do we know the difference in an incomplete pass in a fumble?
00:34:32
Zack
i'm I'm choosing the high road and I'm not going to just trash on the ref. See, even though I could. Certainly, if you want to see about a thousand UT fans doing that, you can log on to X dot.com and I promise you they're there with receipts and with video evidence and all of that.
00:34:37
Mason
Proud of you.
00:34:49
Zack
You can do that if you want to. um I don't think I've got to do that here, but it was a tough it was a tough game I think Tennessee had the game in front of them. I think they had their opportunities didn't take them ah Carson Beck looked like Carson Beck of old whether you in the Georgia offensive line looked like the Georgia offensive line of old so shout out to both of them for just magically getting better in the past week somehow Maybe because they're at home. I don't whatever but that offense looked like an entirely different team than played Ole Miss last week.
00:35:22
Zack
So, thanks to Ole Miss for just giving bulletin board material at the Wassey to the Georgia football program, and we reap the ah benefit of that. So, great work, Ole Miss.
00:35:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Thanks, Ole Miss.
00:35:35
Mason
Was it a benefit?
00:35:36
Zack
The benefit of my demise.
00:35:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Lane Kiffin, always finding a way to get us.
00:35:42
Zack
I don't know, I think he did this on purpose. Yeah, he was like, watch this, this is hilarious. Um, I don't think it's over for Tennessee. I've, I've heard that ESPN is still giving Tennessee a 66% chance to make the playoff, which seems shockingly high. So I don't know what the playoff committee is going to show. Like I said, I think they'll be in that like 12 spot where it's like right on the first team out potentially.
00:36:07
Zack
So you just need one thing to break your way. You need one team to get a bad loss and all of a sudden you could be right at the back. So it happens, teams get caught in these trap games in the late season. I mean, it's not over yet, but I think you have now put your fate in the hands of other teams losing, which is never a fun place to be this time of season.
00:36:30
Zack
Also, A quick shout out to 2022, whenever the same thing happened and everyone was like, ah, we were so close. And then we lost to South Carolina. And it turns out if we just beat South Carolina, we were in the playoffs
College Football Game Recaps
00:36:43
Zack
all along. So circle that Vandy game and say you have to win this game or else it doesn't nothing matters. So.
00:36:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think the magic's kind of worn off on Vandy. They've been getting pushed around again.
00:36:55
Zack
A little bit. Something about winning some games you weren't supposed to win all of a sudden makes teams take you a little more serious and it's much harder to win games.
00:37:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:09
Zack
It's just one of those, you can only surprise teams so many times and teams stop getting surprised by you.
00:37:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:37:15
Zack
And when your whole offense revolves around just like a quarterback doing crazy stuff, it's hard to maintain over a season.
00:37:23
Zack
QB spy can fix some fix some of that pretty fast.
00:37:29
Zack
Okay, that's that's my playoff. That's all I'm going to do here. We're going to talk about some of the games but 10s do you have anything to add?
00:37:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, uh, yeah, yeah.
00:37:38
Zack
We're going to talk about the games right now so um but I think it's interesting to to go back and and talk about who we think is left. There's still some important games coming up.
00:37:49
Zack
The the schedule gets a little bit softer. Most of these teams are here at the end of the season. I don't know how it how it ended up that way. um I guess because Ohio State, Michigan still play, but that game feels less than at this point than the Indiana Ohio State game next week, which is really the one that everyone has circled.
00:38:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not important. Yeah.
00:38:10
Zack
That's the big one left.
00:38:15
Zack
Yeah.
00:38:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah the Big I don't know the Big Ten kind of feels like it's right Yeah, I mean it literally does just feel like the Big Ten is kind of
00:38:19
Zack
Well, the problem is that Penn State and Oregon and Indiana, literally their only big game is against Ohio State. And so they have one game and they're seizing the rest of it. It's like. So. There you go.
00:38:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like it's gonna be Oregon and then whoever wins this game between Indiana and Ohio State this weekend. Like that's kind of feels like it's already pretty chalk.
00:38:50
Zack
Um, probably. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think everyone's rooting for the Oregon Ohio State. I think that'd be more interesting. I don't know that I'm rooting for it.
00:39:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm not someone with an Oregon and Miami Futures Parlay. Give me Indiana in there I guess Oregon and give me
00:39:10
Zack
True.
00:39:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Give me someone easy against Miami.
00:39:13
Zack
The problem is, is that if Ohio State takes a second loss, they're, they're still going to the playoff. And so it'll guarantee, unless they'll have to say it like drops to Michigan or something as well. I'm fully just like whatever happens to get Tennessee in the playoffs is what I'm rooting for at this point. Okay. Do you want to do some superlatives?
00:39:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Ow.
00:39:37
Zack
Categories, winners.
00:39:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh yeah, I just hit my heel on my dis desk chair and it hurt.
00:39:40
Zack
and to
00:39:48
Mason
He had to meet the mic.
00:39:48
Zack
Well, we had a fun week. We had a pretty good week of
Biggest NFL Upsets Discussion
00:39:51
Zack
football as well. There was a fun game, a couple fun games in a field today. And so I'm excited to get to talk about some of them. Let's start here. Upset of the week. Upset of the week. Mason wants us to kick us off here.
00:40:08
Mason
Okay. I'm going to talk about it. Uh, tens. It was Tinsley, the one roasting the 49ers a minute ago. Was that tens?
00:40:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I made fun of them a little bit.
00:40:15
Mason
Yeah.
00:40:15
Zack
Got him.
00:40:16
Mason
Uh, so it's gotta be the Seahawks upsetting the 49ers. It was at home for the 49ers. So in San Francisco, 49ers were a seven point favorite.
00:40:27
Mason
Juno Smith goes down the field, 18 plays 80 yard drive and runs in a 13 yard touchdown with 12 seconds left. ah Let's take a little look at the NFC West picture.
00:40:39
Mason
ah Tinsley was talking about how interesting it looks. ah Cardinals were probably rooting for that win for the Seahawks because now it gets a little more interesting here. Cardinals were on a buy. They are six and four.
00:40:51
Mason
Then it's the Rams at five and five, the 49ers at five and five, and the Seahawks at five and five. So a little tight race here.
00:40:58
Zack
oh Ah.
00:41:00
Mason
Curious to see how it's going to go.
00:41:02
Zack
There you go.
00:41:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
One of those teams was plus 1600 to start the year to win the division and one of them was plus 600.
00:41:08
Zack
Hmm.
00:41:09
Mason
Look at that.
00:41:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Someone probably should have advised people to take those two teams.
00:41:16
Mason
if i If I had to say anything.
00:41:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh wait i
00:41:18
Mason
He did. If I'd say anything, please listen to our off season as well. Like if you're like, uh, it's kind of, it's not, I'm just interested in listening during the season, like listen to our off season. Like we bring, and yes, we have bad takes. We all do, but we bring in some insight and some pretty fun things that we bring out throughout the season of. I wish someone had this ticket and then look at us. We had that ticket. So.
00:41:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Other than Christian Kirk, I think you're going to yours. All yours looks good.
00:41:47
Mason
That Russell Wilson one's gonna be a sweat.
00:41:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
She can't. He didn't throw it for many yards today.
00:41:51
Mason
Yeah.
00:41:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yeah.
00:41:54
Mason
How does a ze flowers ticket? He's looking pretty good. Oh, my Jane Daniels over passing yards.
00:42:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:42:01
Mason
Yeah, that one's looking really good right now.
00:42:02
Zack
Russell Wilson.
00:42:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I brought party MVP all over again.
00:42:04
Mason
Yes, we already said that Zach, thank you.
00:42:08
Mason
Okay, go ahead.
00:42:10
Zack
Let's get rid of it.
00:42:14
Mason
Okay, who's next?
00:42:14
Zack
Alabama not making the playoffs.
00:42:15
Mason
ah
00:42:17
Zack
That one's not looking great.
00:42:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, yeah, we did. We do have another day missed playoffs. That's all right.
00:42:21
Zack
They in the list.
00:42:21
Mason
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:23
Zack
USC. That's great. We got them.
00:42:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Let's go.
00:42:24
Zack
Still got them.
00:42:26
Mason
He's running off army for some reason, but go ahead. Okay. Upset of the week. Who who is it? Who's who's next tense? You got us.
00:42:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yeah, I got you. i I went with Florida upsetting LSU. ah LSU is not a program that loses these games.
00:42:38
Zack
Big one.
00:42:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
this This regime with Brian Kelly has turned LSU into something it's not, and that is a soft, not very good program. It's not the LSU I know.
00:42:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Florida is an okay team. This was a team going into the weekend. People were kind of scratching their head like, oh, we're really bringing back Billy Donovan. like or Billy Napier, Billy Donovan is the basketball coach.
00:43:05
Zack
time
00:43:08
Mason
lot of billies around around
00:43:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's a lot of Billy's run around there at the University of Florida. But yeah, like they're they're bringing back the head coach. People are kind of wondering like, really? Is that really what we're going to do? The recruiting class isn't great. And then you go and get a big win against ah you know LSU who's ranked.
00:43:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
as of last week was still in the playoff contention, you could probably still, they were probably still flirting with the out, you know, outside chance looking in at with three losses.
00:43:32
Mason
A lot of bellies around and around.
00:43:38
Zack
yeah
00:43:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If something crazy happened, well, now you finished their season. Uh, so yeah, I just thought it was really big upset.
00:43:45
Zack
Yeah.
00:43:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and I know it was, ah it was at home, but a lot of people kind of figured LSU was going to have a big bounce back after the Alabama game. And turns out not true.
00:43:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
DJ lagway could be a problem.
00:43:57
Zack
Pretty good.
00:43:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know.
00:43:58
Mason
Mm.
00:43:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It seems like a pretty good quarterback.
00:43:59
Zack
Yeah. um I'm going to give some actual kudos to that Florida program, at building a because in our offseason, I predicted three wins for this team.
00:44:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:10
Zack
I predicted they were going to give up after about game four, and it was just going to be. And I think there's a real reality where that actually still could have happened.
Kansas vs. BYU and Big 12 Implications
00:44:18
Zack
Like, I think there is a very real alternate reality where that season goes that way.
00:44:25
Zack
And it didn't. They they kept fighting. They they had they played Tennessee super tough and Neeland. They um have a couple big wins now.
00:44:35
Zack
And I think the the other side of that coin is where we see Florida State at right now. That's the team that's giving up.
00:44:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:41
Zack
And I think that could have been Florida. But they've kept, I mean, I think it's a it's a pretty big win for that for that school with that schedule to be where they're sitting right now.
00:44:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think if
00:44:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think if Grandma, Grandma never got hurt and they kind of had to play DJ lagway, like I do think that would have happened because I think Billy would have stuck with.
00:44:53
Zack
Awesome.
00:45:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Stuck with Mertz throughout the year and got himself fired and just kind of been in mediocre all year, but having to play lagway and those when he did get hurt kind of was like, OK, this kid's too talented.
00:45:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We can't we can't not play him. and it kind of forced him to play him before he wanted to. And now it's sprung them into like, I don't know, they're they're frisky, they're not a team that like, when you have a talented quarterback like that, you don't want to play a team like that. He is he is he looks very good as a true freshman.
00:45:36
Zack
Yeah, he does. He's he's great. So shout out to Florida. Agree. um My upset of the week um was not a huge upset, according to the books, but it's in terms of our playoff picture, it was pretty big. I'm going to pick Kansas over BYU.
00:45:55
Zack
previously undefeated this actually happened pretty late in the night so I did not get to watch all of that game but that's a big it's a big one for a Kansas team who stuck three and six to go and beat an undefeated BYU team.
00:46:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, they were three and six is a road game.
00:46:12
Zack
um Big 12 is the wild wild west it is a wild place to be right now um still BYU still set up
Heisman Trophy Favorites
00:46:22
Zack
everything's in front of them if they went out they still will make the playoffs and probably get a first round buy but that's becoming a question at this point an interesting one that people are throwing out there have you heard about this i think we've talked about it a little bit technically the the four buy games go to the four highest rated conference champions so what would happen is if Boise State wins their conference and they are higher in the playoff rankings than say
00:46:58
Zack
Colorado or BYU, then Boise State would get a first round by instead of a big 12 champ.
00:47:04
Mason
Mm.
00:47:07
Zack
Same in the ACC. c So let's say Miami takes another SMU takes another loss. The winner, the big 12, let's say the winner of the ACC has like two or three losses.
00:47:18
Zack
There's a very high chance that a G5 conference champion will be in, will get that first round by.
00:47:27
Zack
It's like a weird like, um, kind of like small print thing. I think no one really expected to happen, but right now with the way that big 12 and ACC, you're kind of beating each other becoming more and more likely that it could happen.
00:47:40
Zack
So that's for free, but that's something interesting there.
00:47:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:47:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh Forgiving away stuff for free. I got something for free ah Just because I was looking at how that Kansas game played out ah Kansas is quarterback.
00:47:47
Zack
Okay.
00:47:52
Zack
Yeah.
00:47:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He has a famous big brother place for the Washington commanders quarterback Jay Daniels His little brother is the quarterback of the Kansas Jayhawks Who knew He's a junior Jayden was in college for a long time he like
00:48:00
Zack
i know
00:48:05
Mason
Did not know this.
00:48:07
Zack
What year is he?
00:48:10
Zack
I told you it's a double tankier for the vault.
00:48:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You whoo-hoo Zach's already scouting out 2025 quarterback prospects Double tank for Zach.
00:48:22
Zack
or ah keep find You know, Rome wasn't built in one draft.
00:48:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know we'll love us look pretty good the day levis looked pretty good the day You sure you don't want to we got it.
00:48:28
Zack
Who?
00:48:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You got to give them time to develop
00:48:33
Mason
He had a 98 yard that was like, that was like a majority of his passing yards at 98 yard catch by Nickim Westbrook. Westbrook.
00:48:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Akina yeah, the dude who's never gonna be off the teas.
00:48:45
Mason
Yes. Thank you.
00:48:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He is on the team forever Wow put some respect on Westbrook's name.
00:48:50
Mason
Speaking of while we're here, uh, I'm sorry to undercut everybody, but Nick Westbrook, Akim has more touchdowns than CD lamb, Tyree kill, AJ Brown, Cooper cup. Uh, I don't ah think they're tied now. Cooper.
00:49:03
Mason
Devante Smith, DK Metcalfs, Dave Flowers. There you go.
00:49:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You guys should probably give him a hundred million dollar contract.
00:49:10
Mason
That's right.
00:49:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I
00:49:14
Mason
Sometimes it pays not to overpay.
00:49:15
Zack
Done.
00:49:18
Mason
All right, Zach, go ahead. Sorry, I didn't mean to just off the rails a little bit.
00:49:20
Zack
OK.
00:49:23
Zack
Disappointment of the week.
00:49:24
Mason
Oh, yes. Who's going first?
00:49:27
Zack
Next category.
00:49:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh, I'll go, I'm going with Oregon. This is, uh, yeah, this, this is a team.
00:49:32
Zack
Oh, I was going to do that as well.
00:49:34
Mason
Ah.
00:49:35
Zack
Combine it.
00:49:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're number one ranked in the country. You're going to West, to to Wisconsin, a team who's you know traditionally a good program. They're tough, but they're having a down year. you can't You can't almost lose to them the way that you literally almost lost. I mean, last minute field goal to win the game, to win 16-13 after you've been buzz sawing every team, I just don't get it.
00:50:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And it all but locked up Travis Hunter Heisman. Because Dylan Gabriel had a chance if they were to keep playing well and and keep dominating teams that he would have won it just because it's a quarterback award. Now I don't know how you can't give it to Travis Hunter.
00:50:19
Zack
Yeah, I think it's it's looking more and more likely. I mean, it's between Travis Hunter and Gente, I think, in most people's minds right now.
00:50:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:50:27
Zack
So it just depends on where you feel about the G5 situation. I will say Oregon still has kind of a a grudge match against Washington coming up for their last game of their season.
Jets' Performance and Aaron Rodgers
00:50:36
Zack
They're on five this week.
00:50:37
Mason
Travis hunters minus 350 Ginties plus minus 350 so if you would have bet a hundred dollars you would win only 28 bucks There you go
00:50:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
wow
00:50:41
Zack
Minus 350. Holy cow.
00:50:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
00:50:49
Zack
Yeah, I think I'm good on that.
00:50:52
Zack
That's pretty wild. um My disappointment of the week is actually Wisconsin. Get the job done, in Wisconsin.
00:51:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not pulling. Yeah.
00:51:02
Zack
You're so close.
00:51:06
Zack
It's nice to see Oregon look human. Everyone else looks human. um It's kind of nice to see number one team. There's only three undefeated teams left in the country.
00:51:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't know this army
00:51:17
Zack
but Fun fact. One of them is a 13 point underdog next week or whatever it was. Uh, so take for that what you will. Another one.
00:51:28
Zack
Oh, that's like, that's an interesting stat. Three undefeated teams. One of them is a 13, what number was it against the house state Mason? How many? Oh my army army's a 17 point underdog in Indiana's.
00:51:39
Mason
Yeah.
00:51:43
Zack
What was what a nine or how much was.
00:51:46
Mason
he Yeah.
00:51:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh, 9 or 10, yeah.
00:51:48
Zack
ah
00:51:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or no, it might have even been more.
00:51:50
Zack
So two of our three undefeated teams are significant underdogs next week.
00:51:52
Mason
All the things that you need to happen.
00:51:56
Zack
So one of my pieces of predictions was there will not be a single undefeated team in the country. We might come up one short.
00:52:03
Mason
Ohio State, wait, are you talking about Ohio State and Indiana?
00:52:03
Zack
What a bummer. Oregon. Yeah.
00:52:07
Mason
12 point, 12 point.
00:52:08
Zack
12 points, 12 and 16 point underdogs for two of our last three undefeated teams.
00:52:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
12.
00:52:09
Mason
yeah
00:52:15
Mason
Yeah.
00:52:16
Zack
That's kind of wild. but
00:52:20
Zack
So we need the Oregon to lose the Washington in my prediction comes true.
00:52:24
Mason
Okay, my disappointment of the week.
00:52:24
Zack
OK.
00:52:29
Mason
I'm not trying to sound like a broken record here everybody, but my disappointment is the Jets.
00:52:29
Zack
Yep.
00:52:34
Mason
The loose to the Colts 28 to 27. Uh, Colts get a sneaky win, by the way, for their little playoff push. Did my internet cut out?
00:52:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Now you're good.
00:52:46
Mason
Okay.
00:52:46
Zack
No, you're OK.
00:52:47
Mason
Okay. Okay. Uh, I have a stat for you guys. The winning percentage of the Jets starting quarterbacks. Zach Wilson, 36%.
00:52:59
Mason
Sam Darnold, 34%. Ann Rogers, 27% winning percentage.
00:53:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, tough.
00:53:07
Mason
Got him. Disappointment that guy if he comes back next season, what do they do? What do they say? He doesn't retire Just saying okay What do they say yeah oh Yeah, well it was mostly because they were talking about him I Did yeah i did
00:53:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
everyone Remember when Mason put yeah ESPN on the hot seat last year because they talked about the Jets and Aaron Rodgers too much all summer?
00:53:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He hasn't even played a game for the Jets yet and they won't stop talking about him. And then after he got hurt you were like, they keep talking about him coming back from this Achilles tear. And then Mason continues to talk about the Jets.
00:53:42
Mason
It's mostly because I'm roasting him. They were talking about how great he was in his ah break from light in a cave or something.
00:53:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's darkness retreat yeah, he's a he's a weird guy
00:53:52
Mason
Yeah.
NFL Mid-Season Overreactions
00:53:58
Mason
Okay, what's the next?
00:54:00
Zack
Okay.
00:54:00
Mason
Overaction?
00:54:00
Zack
Overreaction. Overreaction of the week.
00:54:04
Mason
This one's always my favorite, just because we got some crazy takes.
00:54:06
Zack
Okay. Mason, give it to us then.
00:54:08
Mason
I've hit once.
00:54:09
Zack
What do you got?
00:54:10
Mason
Well, I've hit one before. I said that they were going to bench Anthony Richardson and they did that same week, like to like the next day. Overeaction of the week. Saquon Barkley is the best transaction for any team last offseason.
00:54:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
true
00:54:25
Mason
He had 146 rushing yards and two touchdowns. And I think they won that game mostly just riding on the back of Saquon Barkley. So anything I think Derek Henry is a close.
00:54:33
Zack
Calvin Ridley.
00:54:35
Mason
Derek Henry's touchdown streak is still alive, by the way, ah scored a touchdown. I don't even know what, I've lost track of how many games he's scored a touchdown, but this season he's got to at least one touch, but it's close, but Saquon Barkley has been more, meant more to the Eagles than Derek Henry has to the Ravens.
00:54:57
Mason
So there you go.
00:54:58
Zack
Hmm.
00:54:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm Hmm My reaction is the Lions are gonna win Super Bowl the Lions are an unstoppable force of nature The Lions the Lions are a hurricane
00:55:03
Mason
Is that not that crazy?
00:55:09
Mason
Guess what?
00:55:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That also has tornadoes coming out of it while also also carrying a volcano that is erupting
00:55:22
Mason
That, uh, the odds changed. We have two new favorites. I already talked about it. Josh Allen is the MVP favorite. Well, I talked about off the pod, but also the new favorite to win the Superbowl lions plus three 50. The chiefs for the favorite for the longest, but with their loss today changed, shook things up a little bit.
00:55:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Lions are good, and their offensive and defensive coordinator are gonna get to pick whatever head coaching jobs they want. It's gonna be a very fun offseason.
00:55:52
Mason
how How was it seeing your your future head coach on the um the sidelines there?
00:55:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was nice, you know you know? Ben Johnson, that that I caught, there's a there's a picture, Brian Thomas Jr. made a really nice catch on the sideline, and Ben ben Johnson's looking at him, smiling, and he came over to him and tapped him on the butt, said, good catch.
00:56:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You'll be saying that a lot next next year on Sundays there, Brian Johnson.
00:56:17
Mason
Uh, speaking of head coaches for the, ah for, uh, the Jags here, um, I found a graphic, the 2022 head coaching class. You want to hear it?
00:56:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh no.
00:56:28
Mason
Nathaniel Hackett fired.
00:56:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know it.
00:56:30
Mason
Lovey Smith fired. Josh McDaniels fired. Dennis Allen fired. Mac Ebercluse 32% winning percentage. Brian Dayball.
00:56:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not even close to his name.
00:56:42
Mason
Matt Eberfluse.
00:56:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Matt, you've said it two different ways, but his name's Eberfluis.
00:56:49
Zack
two different ways.
00:56:51
Mason
Well, yeah, kind of, there we go.
00:56:53
Zack
You said Ebert Gluth earlier.
00:56:54
Mason
32.
00:56:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's Ebercluis.
00:56:56
Mason
I was kind of, I was kind of focused on the winning percentage. Brian day ball, 39, the winning percentage. Doug Peterson, 45%.
00:57:08
Mason
Todd balls, Mike McDaniel and Kevin O'Connell. So.
00:57:14
Mason
I just wanted to throw that out there.
00:57:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's tough.
00:57:16
Mason
We might get three fires in this one season.
00:57:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's tough.
00:57:19
Mason
Matt, Brian Daywall, and Doug.
00:57:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah,
00:57:22
Mason
Might get those three fired.
00:57:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah it's a those 10 coaches.
00:57:23
Zack
Big Doug.
00:57:25
Mason
Dougie P.
00:57:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
None of them are looking good. None of them are sticking around.
00:57:29
Mason
Kevin O'Connell.
00:57:31
Zack
Brian Callahan, one and done.
00:57:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, can Kevin. He's doing good. No, he won't be a one and done.
00:57:36
Zack
I'm just kidding.
00:57:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Amy ain't got that kind of money to throw around.
00:57:41
Mason
I was thinking about this when I was watching that game today.
00:57:41
Zack
Okay.
00:57:43
Mason
I was like, I wonder if they just found somebody that was able to agree to the amount that like they were probably like, let's just get the lowest amount paying head coach. Like I feel like they probably just did that.
00:57:55
Mason
Okay, go ahead.
00:57:59
Zack
Brian Kelly is on the hot seat at LSU.
00:58:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
who
00:58:04
Zack
Maybe not this year. It's such a weird situation in Alabama. You know what else was on the hot seat at LSU at one point?
00:58:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Next, Evan.
00:58:13
Mason
Who?
00:58:13
Zack
Nick Saban. They either don't accept like nine and three or eight and four seasons. And LSU's in a weird situation right now. This loss was pretty bad.
00:58:23
Zack
I think Brian Kelly is like, I don't think he's going to get fired this season. um But I think if he doesn't produce next season, he will be in trouble. And I think the big thing for keeping him around is a guy by the name of Bryce Underwood.
00:58:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It.
00:58:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:58:39
Zack
You familiar? I think that's what he's kind of got this DJ lagway situation with. um What's his face? My brain is yeah, with Billy.
00:58:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Billy.
00:58:51
Zack
where he's got this connection and people are afraid to fire to fire a coach because of how they know they're going to lose the quarterback as well, which is such a weird place to be in college football right now. But that's where we're at is that the quarter the quarterback is probably worth more than your head coach to some degree.
00:59:07
Zack
And so I think he will be safe.
00:59:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Imagine if that was, yeah, I agree. Yeah, sorry.
00:59:13
Zack
But there's been some rumors um about Bryce Underwood and some offer seats. There was a big rumor this week that Michigan was offering him $10.5 million dollars for four years, which who knows if that's true.
00:59:26
Mason
Mm.
00:59:27
Zack
I don't know.
00:59:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've seen some stuff.
00:59:29
Zack
I've heard lots of rumors, but nothing concrete.
00:59:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:59:32
Zack
So it would make sense for Michigan to drop a bag on a quarterback because they've just been so bad there.
00:59:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh,
00:59:39
Zack
But he's from Michigan.
00:59:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's a local guy too.
00:59:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:59:43
Zack
Yep.
00:59:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've, I've read and heard some, some big money and some big pockets are trying to get involved and get underwood to Michigan.
00:59:54
Zack
Yep.
00:59:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I i think if he did flip his commit, then LSU would be like, okay, we're, we're, we're, cause you're right. LSU is not a pro like, uh, coach, um, I can't think.
01:00:06
Zack
Orgeron won a national championship and was.
01:00:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. Coach O. Yeah. And then was fired less than 48 months later.
01:00:13
Zack
Yeah.
01:00:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like LSU's not like they don't, they don't play around this whole time there.
01:00:18
Zack
They do not. And he's been pretty underwhelming. Overall.
01:00:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:00:24
Zack
I mean, he's, he's an eight win guy, but that's, they don't want that. Yeah.
01:00:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can't think of a single big LSU win but under Brian Kelly.
01:00:37
Zack
Could be true.
01:00:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's lucky he had Jane Daniels last year. Won the Heisman. Like that was flashy, but they weren't good. They didn't win very many games, yeah.
01:00:45
Zack
They still weren't good. Right. Agree. Yeah. So there's my reaction. We'll see. But I just, I don't know why a quarterback would meet Brian Kelly and be like, this is the guy I'm riding with Brian Kelly.
01:00:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't know.
01:00:59
Zack
This is the culture.
01:00:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't know why.
01:01:00
Zack
I'll be a part of. She feels like a weird place. I don't know.
Outstanding NFL Player Performances
01:01:05
Zack
Okay. Uh, moving on. We have performance of the week. Performance of the week.
01:01:15
Zack
Mason. mason
01:01:17
Mason
Hmm. Um, I had Taysom Hill through for 18 yards, ran for 138 yards, three touchdowns and caught eight catches most on the team for 50 yards.
01:01:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dang it.
01:01:31
Mason
Did I snipe you tens?
01:01:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's right, I'll pivot.
01:01:33
Mason
Dang.
01:01:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it what ah What a football player he's like he's like an ah high school quarterback out there where he just kind of does a little bit of everything.
01:01:35
Zack
Pivot.
01:01:36
Mason
You can.
01:01:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
True Wildcat. It's it's a man I don't I I don't understand Taysom Hill.
01:01:52
Mason
it's crazy that's three touchdowns man yeah 75 yard run there's my there's my uh performance tens you can just use that one too unless you had another
01:01:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
One of them hit like a 75 yard run
01:02:06
Zack
Love it.
01:02:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Now I got another one, ah Jared Goff throwing for 415 yards today, bouncing back after a terrible performance in a game where he threw five interceptions last week against the Texans. Surely the Lions lost that game, right? Oh wait, no, because Texans suck, they couldn't capitalize and beat them. um So yeah, Jared Goff leading the league in passing yards this Sunday as of right now, unless Justin Herbert or ah Joe Burrow goes off here.
01:02:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
then Jared Goff will be the leader in the clubhouse for for that but plus 2,000 someone probably should have taken that pretty crazy odds I Did my part and getting Doug Peterson fired I'll just say that I Put all I did all the voodoo.
01:02:58
Zack
He did his part everyone.
01:03:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I bet everything I could on the Lions today.
01:03:05
Mason
It's caching so far.
01:03:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I Wish I could bet on Doug getting fired by 9 a.m.
01:03:15
Mason
Okay, Zach, performance.
01:03:15
Zack
Okay performance of the week As much as I hate to do it. I think we're going to have to give this to one Carson Beck What an electric performance I'm just not electric he sucks but Definitely not listen he Has been very bad for many weeks in a row He came out and he tore up this Tennessee defense
01:03:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh
01:03:25
Mason
Why boo?
01:03:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach hyping up his future quarterback.
01:03:45
Mason
So we have either the multi-universe Zach or someone kidnapped him and is because he didn't gripe about the officiating and now he's giving praises performance of the week.
01:03:55
Zack
I'm numb. I'm numb, Mason.
01:03:59
Mason
Well, I call this isn't Zach.
01:03:59
Zack
I'm just telling you, I watched this game and I watched Carson Beck steal all my hopes and dreams. And so that deserves something.
01:04:06
Mason
This might be Zach that spelled with an H, but this isn't our Zach that we know and love. How many remotes did you break last night? Probably not even a one. This isn't the real Zach.
01:04:15
Zack
I want to see, I want to see Georgia again in the playoffs.
01:04:21
Mason
Okay.
01:04:21
Zack
Coming for him.
01:04:23
Mason
Can ah can you do, if you were going to ask for anything, can you just, can you just ask for us to play against like Boise state or something?
01:04:25
Zack
It was a good performance.
01:04:29
Zack
No, I want Georgia.
01:04:31
Mason
Okay, good.
01:04:31
Zack
I want to end them in their whole careers.
01:04:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He wants Georgia.
01:04:34
Mason
All right. Everybody's saving that.
01:04:35
Zack
Okay, what is a good performance? What can I say? Next.
Potential NFL Playoff Contenders
01:04:40
Zack
um We have our highest riser. Highest riser. Which team rose the most in your estimation?
01:04:51
Mason
I'm going to go with the Broncos just because they keep their playoff race alive. They're sticking it out. They go up against the Falcons and Kirk cousins. I'm pretty sure they were underdog and what?
01:05:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nothing.
01:05:04
Mason
And they had a huge day. Bo Nix did 307 yards and four touchdowns. What's the face for? I can handle it.
01:05:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nothing.
01:05:13
Mason
It's because they did. No, tell me it's because they they're literally in it for the. Yes, go ahead.
01:05:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nothing, no, you're just, you're...
01:05:24
Mason
Okay, go ahead, ah Zach.
01:05:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
just the Broncos. I agree. I think the Broncos, they've been a fun story. I'm surprised. I didn't think Bo Nix was going to be very good in NFL, but he has landed in a perfect spot. And Sean Payton has built an offense that is perfect for Bo Nix and they're dangerous because they have very good defense. Vince Joseph is one of the better defensive coordinators in the league. You've got players like Patrick, who is the number one corner and then I fell in my opinion, Patrick. So so They got a guy named Zach Allen who's like top three in pressures, even though he is a ah um defensive tackle.
01:05:57
Mason
There you go.
01:06:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So yeah.
01:06:08
Zack
There you go.
01:06:09
Mason
There you go.
01:06:10
Zack
Okay. My highest riser is Colorado. Colorado, um, not only beat Utah convincingly, not only has the Heisman almost guaranteed on their team, but they also had a BYU team loose. And so they are looking pretty good right now.
01:06:34
Zack
um They're moving up not only the playoff rankings, but I think their odds are getting better and better to to get there So that's my highest riser of the week okay.
01:06:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
okay. I had Colorado. That's fine.
01:06:46
Mason
We're sniping
01:06:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's fine. I'll go with the Dolphins.
01:06:50
Zack
Yeah
01:06:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think this Dolphins team had a rough start to the beginning of the year. Two obviously got hurt. There are questions whether he's ever going to play again or not. He's back.
01:07:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They are. And they're rolling. Their offense is obviously dangerous with Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle. Jalen Wright is getting involved with A-Chain and most hurt.
01:07:11
Zack
Mm hmm.
01:07:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You just got a lot of speed. I think this is a team that could find themselves in the playoffs somehow, some way, and just be one of those dangerous wildcard teams. It's like, you know,
01:07:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah team you don't want to play because they can obviously put up points and you know on any given Sunday a team like that that could score 50 is dangerous so I'm gonna go with the Dolphins because I think they I think they could find themselves in the playoffs right now it's it's gonna be kind of tough to get in the walk our spot because the Chargers and Broncos are both kind of dominating the wild card spots right now Along with the Ravens since the Steelers can't can't lose.
01:07:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're obviously they're gonna win that division at this rate So yeah, I've seen the AFC is is stacked with
NFC South Division Competition
01:08:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
teams But I think the Dolphins could find a way in there and and be dangerous.
01:08:03
Zack
Stacked.
01:08:08
Zack
Love it.
01:08:10
Mason
There you go.
01:08:10
Zack
Okay, nosedive of the week. Which team took the biggest hit?
01:08:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I
01:08:15
Zack
um I'll go ahead and go. even The answer to this might be Tennessee, but I'm not going to pick Tennessee because I've already. um I'm going to pick Missouri.
01:08:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:08:26
Zack
Shout out to Eli Drinkwitz, who said they're still fighting for playoff spot. Not anymore, Eli. Sorry to say. I didn't and you have you on my list, so you weren't eliminated, but you're definitely eliminated now.
01:08:38
Zack
I mean, you lost to a good South Carolina team, but this is a Missouri team that never was actually very good at all this season. They had the easiest SEC schedule and just picked up their third loss. Missouri is officially out of everything. So shout out to Jenkins, standing on business.
01:08:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Alright, I'm gonna go with the Falcons. I they've had a chance here the last few weeks to kind of pull away in the NFC South and they've not done it.
01:09:02
Mason
Mm.
01:09:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And so now I think it's going to be a pretty tight race for the rest of the year with them. The Bucks that I know the Bucks have lost quite a bit of games in a row. They've been banged up.
01:09:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They get Mike Evans back after this. They've also lost these games close like they lost in overtime. of The Chiefs they lost the one position game last week against the. Uh, I don't remember who they played, but, um, you know, it's going to be a tight race. And the Falcons were supposed to be like the runaway favorite was Kirk cousins for the division. And that's not working out so far. They're six and five. And so I think that they have kind of taken a little bit of a tumble down the rankings for me. And the NFC South is dangerous and we got the Panthers out here winning in games. You got the the saints being feisty and the bucks
Bears' Struggles and Criticisms
01:09:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
aren't going anywhere.
01:09:57
Mason
Were you talking about the the Falcons losing to the Saints last week?
01:10:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes.
01:10:03
Mason
Yeah. Okay. Um, my, uh, nosedive is going to be the bears. Um, I picked a team last week as my nosedive, a team that lost on a block field goal. And this team did as well. They had a chance to win, beat the Packers and kind of shut up a lot of the critics of people saying, should Caleb Williams get benched? Uh, obviously they fired one of their coordinators. So it was a, a, a down week for them and they could have came back with a win.
01:10:34
Mason
against a divisional team and they were not able to. So just tough break for them. I think nothing's worse than losing on a, well, there's plenty of things losing losing too, but a block punt, it's like you didn't get a chance to see if it was going to get in or not.
01:10:49
Mason
Just not even a, I feel like they don't happen very often, but here recently they've happened quite a bit.
01:10:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:10:56
Mason
We've had two, two games in on a block punt in the last two weeks. So there you go. Nose dive.
01:11:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, the Packers special teams coordinator talked about it after the game. He's like, yeah, we noticed in film that the kicker kicks really low field goals. So we we knew what to do. We were just surprised they even tried to. They didn't run one more play to try and get a little closer.
01:11:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So just, you know, getting getting getting out coached once again, that's what the bears do. Dufuses.
Mike Tyson's Viral Moment
01:11:27
Zack
two faces.
01:11:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dufuses.
01:11:29
Mason
Matt, Matt, either clues. Apparently that's what I called.
01:11:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Matt Dweber Flus.
01:11:35
Zack
Got him. OK, next up of the week is the time.
01:11:39
Mason
Let's do it.
01:11:41
Zack
OK, I want to go first because I have I've been thinking about this one um and it's between two options. I'm not sure which one I want to pick.
01:11:51
Zack
I think it's the camera guy who showed Mike Tyson's butt on, in front of 65 million people on Netflix intentionally.
01:12:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:12:02
Zack
Like he had the camera turned on facing Mike Tyson's bare butt. So show it to that guy.
01:12:12
Mason
Dang, mine's gonna lose no matter what. What's the other one, Zach?
01:12:17
Zack
The other one was Mike Tyson for just not caring that there was a camera in his face and just so I didn't know which way to how to phrase it.
01:12:22
Mason
Oh, okay. so Gotcha.
01:12:25
Zack
I don't know who the actual winner is.
01:12:26
Mason
I thought you had two totally different
01:12:27
Zack
Who's
Jaguars' Coaching Discussion
01:12:28
Zack
the next guy up?
01:12:28
Mason
instances.
01:12:29
Mason
Okay.
01:12:29
Zack
So it's electric.
01:12:30
Mason
It's a camera guy.
01:12:36
Mason
All right, 10, so you got...
01:12:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
01:12:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
My next guy of the week is dependent on if he does the right thing and that'd be shad con firing Doug Peterson and Trent bulky This is my nomination I can do what
01:12:50
Zack
but
01:12:51
Mason
Hasn't even happened yet.
01:12:51
Zack
if nothing is
01:12:52
Mason
What do you mean?
01:12:58
Mason
Okay, that's just hilarious. It's not even happened yet. We've not seen this in the history of the pod.
01:13:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Actually, no, okay. No, all right. It's Dan Campbell throwing a challenge flag when you're up 52 to three at the time on a meaningless first
Controversial Referee Decisions
01:13:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
down catch ah ruining a fantasy stat for me.
01:13:16
Mason
Hmm.
01:13:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Come on, Dan Campbell. Just let me have the catch.
01:13:20
Mason
Never giving up.
01:13:21
Zack
have it, coward.
01:13:24
Mason
I'm going to go on.
01:13:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But also, Shadcon, if you do the right thing, you get my nomination.
01:13:26
Mason
Yeah.
01:13:29
Mason
But for next guy.
01:13:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know you're listening.
01:13:31
Mason
Honorable mention, these are in the same game, um ah is Chase Young. he wast ah It was a substitution mishap. He wasn't even on the field. He runs on late while the play is happening, not even set.
01:13:45
Mason
So he missed the subs, sprinted onto the field late and tackled for a loss for the running back. So you need to look it up if you've not seen the play, but he's literally sprinting on and is able to run in perfect into the running back for a loss.
01:13:56
Zack
Hmm.
01:13:58
Mason
That's honorable mention, that's not it.
01:13:59
Zack
Okay.
01:13:59
Mason
My nomination is Taysom Hill for the stats that we talked about. I kind of double dipped, but it was too too good not to nominate him for passing yards, running and and leading the team and running yards, touchdowns and catching catches. So.
01:14:16
Zack
Okay, I have another honorable mention as well.
01:14:19
Mason
OK.
01:14:20
Zack
Um The referee that made a bag off of whatever bet he had going for the nebraska game when
01:14:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ooh,
Weekly Notable Figures and Events Debate
01:14:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
what a bad non-call.
01:14:30
Zack
The dude literally like got held and pulled on the last play no call I feel like referees are always scared to make that call because they don't want to be the guy to like To give him another shot, you know at that point in the game.
01:14:35
Mason
All that, yeah.
01:14:43
Zack
It's like You don't want to call a charge on like the last possession of a basketball game, you know You don't want to be that guy so I get it but that was egregious And he would have had a shot at catching the ball if he hadn't gotten held.
01:14:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
01:14:55
Zack
So um I hope you made a lot of money. Otherwise because you're probably losing your job from that one. So Charge that referee making it back Yes,
01:15:06
Mason
All right, we ready to vote.
01:15:09
Zack
I'm voting for shad con
01:15:14
Zack
No, I'm just kidding. I'm not.
01:15:15
Mason
I'm voting for the camera guy.
01:15:19
Mason
Actually, do we even want to vote for that guy? I didn't want to see that. Why am I voting for that guy? I didn't want to see that at all.
01:15:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason Mason wanted to see.
01:15:24
Mason
I'm voting for Taysom Hill.
01:15:26
Zack
There's a light strike, Mason.
01:15:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mike Tyson's but.
01:15:27
Mason
I'm voting for Taysom Hill.
01:15:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Got a lot of good memes out of it, so I appreciate what that cameraman's done for the Internet.
01:15:31
Zack
I know. Me too.
01:15:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've i've seen some really funny memes today.
01:15:35
Zack
He saved the day for Netflix.
01:15:38
Mason
The crying Michael Jordan's face on each cheek. Have you seen that one?
01:15:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's good. It's good stuff.
01:15:44
Mason
What the Dallas Cowboys are and it's a star on each on each cheek.
01:15:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. I saw one of Doug Peterson intro bulky space on each side.
01:15:55
Mason
I'm still voting for Taysom Hill.
01:15:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That was good, I liked that.
01:15:57
Mason
I don't want to see that. OK, Zach, what's your vote?
01:16:00
Zack
I'm voting for bare butt game, man shot to that guy
01:16:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, i'm I'm with you there.
01:16:03
Mason
OK, there you go. I'm.
01:16:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I appreciate what that's doing for the internet.
Sign-Off and Personal Updates
01:16:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We needed that.
01:16:12
Zack
Okay, well that's our show everybody I'm always good classic content around here ah We hope you had a good weekend.
01:16:21
Zack
We will see you on Thursday. Hopefully we see tens. Maybe not though. I
01:16:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh, yeah, why I'm, I'm, I'm questionable for, for a little bit on the injury report.
01:16:27
Zack
We're officially on Baby Watch. Find one to enter your port.
01:16:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm on the injury report questionable.
01:16:36
Zack
ah Some big games this week. I'm excited about it. We will see you Thursday. Talk all about them. Have a good one.