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Always More With These MFs
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Still worshiping billionaires and athletes? Of course you are. But the arms race of "MORE" extends to everything from healthcare to rollercoasters and even porn videos.
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Introduction & Humorous Bit
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F-R-B-O-R-S! Alright, what's up, boy? i' gonna have you listen to something, and then I want to talk to you about it. Alright, just listen. It's about 30 seconds.
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We're live. Rake the leaves, my friend, for it is fall. But rake them gently, because leaves are frail creatures.
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Bag the leaves, kind sir, and say goodbye. Now drink a beer and jerk your big cock. Okay.
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It's not funny. It's not that
AI Content Filtering & Implications
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funny, right? So I was going to release this bit that you just listened to. It's just like a goofy little side thing. And Zencaster blocked it. Zencaster, for those listening, as our hosting podcast hosting company.
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And they blocked it because they're using AI to like filter things out. They blocked it because it didn't have enough dialogue. And so i have to so I had to send this file to somebody.
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Super embarrassing. And now they're coming back and they're like, okay, can you send us the text file and the music file? And I just picture somebody... listening to that bit 14 times and doing tests to figure out why it can't upload. Jerk your big cock.
00:01:33
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So you're saying we probably got another listener.
00:01:37
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Someone's like, have you checked these guys out? Very unique. oh And it's like not even a good bit. It's just so dumb. yeah So it wasn't flagged because you said the the big cock thing. Is that why? Because you've you've done worse shit than that. Oh, way worse. Yeah, no, it was just flagged because they're using an AI processor now to for the audio files.
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And so it just it it picked up on more music than dialogue. And so it says, oh, this is not an audio file. and We're a podcast company and blah. So it just had like an error message.
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which I was really pissed about when I got on the chat bot. And of course it was an AI chat bot. And so I yelled at it and said, you're a clanker, which is like the young people call AI clankers. And I was, yeah, just a little little aggressive. You're a clanker, I think. Man, you know so much more about the world than me.
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But the idea that somebody is listening to this ridiculous bit. Jerk your big cock. How far do you think it has to go before a human gets involved? Like an AI bot was probably like, this is dope.
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Well, tantrumed. Yeah, right. i take yeah I tantrumed with the AI bot and then just closed the session and then a real person saw that interaction and then came back and emailed me.
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and But there is it approved yet? No, they still need now they need two separate files to figure out why their system wouldn't upload it. And they have to
Comedic Reflection & Business Challenges
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listen that last line probably like 19 times, 17, 19 times. Jerk your big cock.
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So this is probably the greatest, your greatest day of 2025. the smell lab hu I was just laughing so hard last night because, because, you know, the whole basis of my comedy is somebody listens to it and just goes, what the fuck?
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Fuck this guy. This is so stupid. I just love that thought. And then this for somebody's job to have to be to process this audio file and listen to it a hundred times. so It just makes me laugh.
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if they got If they got to the end, they had a little surprise waiting for them. Jerk your big cock. They made it all because it's pretty chill until the end.
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well They were like, what? ah Yeah. Yeah. So you're in St. Louis, dude. It's feeling good. Business good, buddy. Huh? It's a grind, dude. It is a grind.
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What makes it a grind? First you have a grind of trying to get people to notice you and buy stuff and then once they do then all of a sudden people are asking for stuff and then the grind is it' servicing your clients as they say. and then Oh, you know, all the same shit. Then, oh do i have enough inventory? Do i have enough money to buy more inventory? All that shit. Servicing the client means what? Is that custom creations?
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Yeah, so custom tables, custom islands, what sizes you want to commit to when you when you put a container together. the supplier have enough of those sizes? You know, is is is it worth, you know,
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you get You're kind of at the beginning of business cycle. You're just like, i'm fuck I'll do anything. And then after a while, you're like, ah should I do that? Let's say it's end tables, right? our Our bread and butter is kitchen islands and dining tables.
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well we're pretty We'd be desperate for someone just buy an end table. We'll do whatever you want. Then like, you know what? We don't need do that. We're going for whales. and You've decided you're no longer taking small-time shit. yeah i you're you We're at the point now where still take everything, and now we just resent resent it It's like, ah, fuck.
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I gotta do this for eight bucks. you know But we're so far away from being like ready to be cocky that we we would we still would take anything. you just ah
AI & Creativity in Business
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You know the business cycle. so like you For a while, I'd be like, well, this might lead to something.
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But now we're starting to know what leads to something, and it's not it's yeah certain things that aren't that. right Yeah, and you'll you'll zero in on the most profitable and popular. There'll be a convergence of popular and profitable, and you'll you'll zero in on that eventually.
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But right now you'll make a wood dildo if requested. Dildo. Cock. Big cock. And resent it. Yeah, and resent it. I would resent that. Or use it. Hmm.
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Huh? Anyway. They've ignited the fire again, huh? The AI bots have ignited the fire. They have, yeah. I like it. See, this is the range, dude.
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don't want to bring it up, but that's the range. It's like angry about um have the state of the world in politics. you right back in your sweet spot, throwing some cocks out there and laughing? that's the That's the range. It's ah it's a big range.
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I was helping my mom move some exercise equipment. We went by this lady's house, friend of hers, to pick it up. Okay, but the lady, she's probably 70s, she made us sit down and out on the deck and drink margaritas before I had to lift this heavy treadmill
Podcast Entertainment Elements
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equipment.
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And so, you know, s sipping margs. before that's a range right there drinking and moving that's the kind of range who's this badass 70 year old who just kicks mugs on a thursday Thursday afternoon that's pretty cool she says she started at noon and she starts at noon every day is it like ah a not a cool thing is it like this lady's got a problem or is it no she's a cool lady she's a cool lady for sure but I just thought it was funny I was going to move all this shit and she's like making me drink a margarita mix or homemade no she had her own
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canned version quite tasty though i forgot the brand dude but i'd promote him if if we did that kind of thing around here the only thing we promote is big cock yeah you seem up you seem mis-spirited dude well i'll try to entertain make this more entertaining dude because you know it's i don't want it to i don't really want it to be a piece of shit i know that's the title but come on man we gotta step it up buddy I don't know if we're ready for another, read of of you know, one of these where we check ourselves and um and think about the last episodes. But I will say at the all the last three or four episodes, pretty pretty good.
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Well, I'll say the last one, and I don't really know the secret to entertaining podcast, but I did like that first section up until the Paul's period juice commercial because that section we were just, I was fucking with you the whole time and you were you were kind of just taking in and rolling.
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and it was funny and it it it did flow. I don't know anything about the successful podcast, dude, but I felt like that was pretty good. the The rest of it, you know, whatever. It's like the usual piece of shit stuff we do. But that first part was, you know, you could, you could throw that on a something popular. People like fucking love these guys. Who are these guys?
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You think there's like three, three listeners are like, you listen to, POS last week, what's your number for for low end of of of checking out the opposite sex and then they're sitting around the cooler throwing it out there having having conversations?
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Did you ever,
Corporate Culture & Employee Satisfaction
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the water cooler thing never, it's never happened in my life. so People use it as, you know, you're kicking it around the water cooler. like Like a bunch of Americans are drink are getting hydrated together?
00:08:43
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Come on. Maybe in Colorado. Maybe in Colorado. I think a lot of cost cutting measures took out the actual, you know, deep rock water cooler that people might gather around. It's like go to the sink.
00:08:56
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And then I think that that culture dissipated. What did you guys have? a ah you were yeah That was a big business. Did you guys have ah like a cafeteria or something? Or what did you guys have? Was it a campus, so to speak? No, it was all decentralized. Like, you know, the hospitals would have.
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Our hospital partners and some of our bigger clinics would have like a eatery, but nothing like a can't like Google. Nothing like Google. I remember my uncle worked for J&J and j and their their facility in New Jersey. I went there once when I was a kid and I was like, this is fucking amazing. It had like a track inside. It had like cafeteria. was It was insane.
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It's weird because Harvard Business Review comes out later with research. It's like major companies use Campus amenities to keep employees working longer. Studies show.
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So then it gets me pissed off about corporations and the tech industry specifically
Wealth Inequality & Taxation
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did a lot of that shenanigans. We even did it in our IT department where it was like we had this room with foosball tables and shit.
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but Nobody ever used it. Like no nobody went in there and brainstormed. some healthcare technology solution while playing foosball. Uh, but it was this trend and, uh, wellness type shit or more. Yeah. the Building come like a little bit of that.
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But these tech founder dipshits wanted like your home to be the workplace. And it's 20, 30 years later now. And we got one of those tech Fox getting a trillion dollar payday. Did you read that dude? Fucking Elon getting a trillion dollar pay package.
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Really? Yep. Trillion. What do you think about that? Because you're kind of like a, eh, I don't know. Capitalism. Yeah. ah Yeah. I don't know. Wasn't that how Rockefeller was?
00:10:45
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What do you think of that, though Let me kick it back to you, dude. Okay. Hit me. What's your problem with it? Big cock. So where I'm at... in my ah liberal rage is, well, first, if you look at the marginal tax rate of our most wealthy in the last 100 year history, there were many points of society where after like 3 million or a very high wage, the tax rate was 94%, or it was 85% or 78%. And for a long part of our 20th century history there, it was like that. And the middle class was thriving.
00:11:23
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But if you look at the chart of wealth acquisition for billionaires, it is near exponential. And the chart for real wage gain is like a flat fucking boring linear ride.
00:11:34
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And you never you nobody ever reaches a summit. It's so at some point you have to get worried about the middle class. That's why I start to think, are these are the are these billionaires, is is it a giant funnel up to the top for the next 20 years? Is that going to serve us well as a country? So that that's in principle why.
00:11:54
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I'm not looking at my phone. I'm doing the math. Is a million is ah is a trillion a million of millions? Or is it a ah million billions? It's 1,000 billion. Well, I'm just saying, could could that make a million people millionaires?
00:12:10
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Is that what it is? It is? No. I don't know. It doesn't matter. Well, I see what you're saying, but i'll in that case... I'll cut that because I don't want you to look dumb. now but like what is like what could you do with that trillion if it didn't go to him, who's somebody who doesn't need it?
00:12:25
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i don't have i mean I would stop short of saying I have a problem with that guy getting crazy rich because he he made a good business. He works hard. I don't like listening to him talk, but whatever he did, it worked. Right.
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But would your, your, in your ideal world, he would be rich, but that, that sort of money or some portion of it would trickle down so that everyone in the company is rich or would you just tax it and have it be read redistributed some way?
00:12:52
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Well, okay. I would do it through taxes, but let's, so that you're not, you know, putting me in the Marxist corner. It's cool that they get rich. It's great that they create companies. It's great that people join those companies and also get wealthy. It's great that investors have opportunities.
00:13:08
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I think that we've swung the pendulum too far to a marginal tax rate for like 31% and the middle class, because left to their own devices, as a business owner, you could vouch for this.
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If you could hire people for a lower cost and build a more profitable business, you know nine times out of 10 people are gonna go that direction, right? The game is maximizing profits.
00:13:33
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The bigger the corporations get, the more money funnels to the top and it funnels to the investor class. And I don't know what the line is, but I would think that with our trouble paying for some key things that would really benefit the vast majority of our citizens, it could come from raising the marginal tax rate on our wealthiest and our biggest businesses.
00:13:53
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Yes, indeed. So i mean maybe he's going to protect it, but you think that, like let's say he got a trillion bucks, he would he would pay 40% of that right now as a tax?
00:14:06
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Or he would just protect it all, it's all in like long-term ah capital gains or whatever? like so But if let's just say it was 40%, so he gave 400 billion in tax.
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ah you Would you be cool with that or are that not enough? You'd rather be 90 billion tax. Well, I would say, oh from an income perspective under billion or a profit perspective, I'd say over a certain threshold, you could even go higher.
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You could go 60%. I mean, if you look at the marginal tax rates in history, this is back in the 20s, dude, when ah the railroads or- The tycoons. The tycoons were like, they were killing it.
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They were making money. like There are a lot of avenues to make money too. They're killing it. And I think at a certain ah certain point, you could raise that rate. And now now people will say, well, that- That is supply destruction and people will stop building companies and they'll stop innovating because I know that Elon, he he is, all he's after is another 500 billion. That's all he wants, right? i mean, come on.
00:15:06
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I just think that you've benefited from a society and a set of rules and laws that are structured to allow for success that you can contribute back the people of the country.
00:15:18
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I think it's fair. Do you think Elon, or is does he does he does a good job of... Because the other thing is, like is he the type of person that maybe maybe he's not going to do it through tax, but he's going to do it through you know multiple ventures that lead to more employment and companies and stuff. is it but Would that work for you? If you could trust if you could trust mankind that way, where where it's like, well, he's going to put that money back into society himself. He doesn't need...
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Like that does happen as well. Probably not a trillion dollars worth, but like you just don't have the trust in these idiots that they're they're going to do that. that's That's not really the point. I think that innovative people are going to build businesses regardless.
00:15:58
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Raising that threshold goes right into the pockets of people that will spend almost 100% of it back into the economy and also fueling other small businesses like yours, more people buying tables.
00:16:10
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We're not talking about socialism. We're just talking about the wealthiest people paying a higher share. I don't know what your perspective is on this. You can tell me, but like, you know our end result is a product of two things it's skill and luck and so much more of it in my opinion is luck and i don't have as much praise as people seem to have these days for the billionaire class i don't think jeff bezos is a fucking genius i think he's very successful and that's good for you buddy but yeah and i also don't care yeah if he's a genius
00:16:46
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I don't care either, but I do care if 50% of our society is is is bordering on paycheck to paycheck. I do care that like our top, some of our top retail corporations, Walmart, Amazon, fucking Wendy's, fucking Burger King, all these types of companies, McDonald's, if you work there full time, in many places, you still qualify for food stamps.
00:17:07
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I find that to be, you work for Uber full time, right? You still call for food stamps. I just don't see how that's a healthy society. and And yet, which is what I tell my kids, but was just like, just, you got to invest because this society does not work for anybody that doesn't put capital to work.
00:17:24
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it's ah it's I just have trouble with these billionaires. But what I have most trouble with, I love, is that the idolization of these fucks we've We've stopped idolizing teachers, police officers, firefighters, and we idolize these fucks.
00:17:38
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Yeah, I think when I say that I don't give a fuck if they are geniuses, it's like great. it's it's what That's exactly what I mean. I don't mean it. but i don't I don't hate these fucks like you're saying. i just yeah it doesn't Their words don't mean like they're not better for me than someone else because because they built Amazon. I'm like, I don't care.
00:17:54
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yeah know like it's It's just a geek talking. That's the look at it. And I'm out of here trying to get fucking laid, man. And I don't need... I don't know i don't need Elon Musk.
00:18:06
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I'm trying barking me trying to finger as many girls as I can. I've never really listened to Bezos. or i don't find listening to Elon Musk intriguing or entertaining at all.
00:18:20
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like Because I just think he's such a tool. such a tool Like, I don't find, I mean, there's almost no celebrities that really like listen to talk. Maybe Kevin Costner. That's it, dude.
00:18:32
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That is it. Justin, why him? I just came to my head. There might be some gay thing there going on. Big cock. Kebo. But, uh, yeah, but I don't know what to say about your, your thing.
00:18:45
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Because i don't know how you if I don't know how you can do it where you have like open markets and you're regulating people after a certain point. We're already taxing, dude. Is it 10 million? like What's realistic? A trillion seems ridiculous, but where's the point?
00:18:59
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I'm not trying to limit. saying like sliding scale though? like Sliding tax? More of a sliding tax? Well, we already have a progressive tax rate. If if you make over 200,000 or 250 or something, your tax rate's higher than somebody at 150.
00:19:12
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Which is kind of funny, $200,000 and you're talking about some math I can't do. Yeah, correct a lot more. and And Elizabeth Warren, as hard as it is to listen to that chick, she had a wealth tax where I want to say it was like, I can't remember all the details, it was like something like you made over like two, three, four million or something.
00:19:31
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We were just going to take two cents on the dollar as an extra tax. It was very, and it would shore up a lot, you know, in her strategy, it would shore up some things to to help the middle class more.
00:19:44
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It was so minuscule. And it was just like socialist, socialist, socialist. At the end of the
Healthcare Systems Comparison
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day, what pays for the infrastructure? What pays for us to, you know, compete with China in terms of like our society, our education system?
00:19:59
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So it's a no brainer to me. I don't think you destroy innovation, you destroy motivation or supply. I think there's probably some simple fixes that, like you said, that don't cost that much either.
00:20:13
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And if you look at what these guys are doing, they're hoarding it. It's not like they're all... deploying the capital back into society to create more businesses and more innovation. Many of them are- Well, that's what was asking earlier.
00:20:25
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If they were doing that. If they were doing that, then we would we would all be clapping our hands for trickle-down economics. We'd be like, yay, trickle-down economics works. Thank you, Ronald Reagan. And we would have, you know, a lot of things have worked out just great for the middle class. But all the data says that that shit doesn't work.
00:20:43
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i I've been a part of, I've been- My whole adult life has been, i would say, as a ah like that working. It's so you can't count on everyone to do that. But I mean, the the first company I worked, well, not the first, actually shit, the first company, that that internet company was private equity.
00:21:01
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The medical device was was private equity startup, you know, iBank investment. And then this company that I'm with is a product of somebody who was in that environment, made made some money, and then invested in us.
00:21:14
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Invested in Matt Conte, to be honest with you. And so your last name out there it can Conti Conti's carry so it it it can work because each person at at every step of the way like hat probably had the had the option like right now they could just be like, all right, I'm gonna hold on this nest egg. I'm gonna risk any of it.
00:21:39
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But they they did. So like it can work the other way. It's just the scale you're talking about with the, I don't know, i so um' I'm focused on this trillion dollar thing. It's so bizarre. But the look, all I'm asking is that we raise the top marginal tax rate for the wealthiest.
00:21:54
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I don't know what- From what to what? Yeah, I don't know what the math is on that. Okay, um um I don't know what it is. But one could argue, and tell me if you agree with this philosophy, is Elon Musk and all of his future business propositions and his ideas, is are they going to suffer if he has $950 billion payday versus trillion?
00:22:18
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or a $900 billion trade payday instead of $1 trillion. I would venture to say no Businesses will still get built. He will still be able to put food on the table for his family.
00:22:32
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So who you think that, I mean, yeah, you could go way lower. Like the the number that he would be crazy rich and fine is like... almost If he took away 99% of that trillion, he's still a billionaire.
00:22:46
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He'll be fine. but like is it's But is it his responsibility? ah why I'll ask you, why do you think it's his responsibility to take care of society? Do I think it's his responsibility? No, it's the government's to have an effective tax rate that's fair for society.
00:23:06
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There are forces at work in capitalism that create imbalances as we know. um I mean, shit, we bailed out banks during the financial crisis, but we let people on so-called main street suffer.
00:23:21
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And we did that to protect the financial system. But the financial system works because we have the rule of law and a solid government, right? We're all it together is my point is my point. And raising the top marginal tax rate does nothing to impact the wealthiest.
00:23:38
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It does nothing. Main Street FF, as I say, forever fucked. Yes, Main Street is fucked. And why not help Main Street not be fucked so that society can be better? And in fact, your businesses may become more profitable if Main Street isn't fucked.
00:23:53
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People will be like, you're going to fucking could be Europe. Look, at Europe doesn't grow. oh fucking Europe sucks. Yet every one of us would want to live in any one of those towns. because they're much statistically happier and they have way more amenities and benefits.
00:24:10
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The U.S. is like unilaterally or parallel, like parallel, parallelly is that a word? The smartest and dumbest people on earth, but not afraid to talk about things they haven't experienced. Well, just, I mean, even today was listening to conservative right-wing radio and they were just hammering the Canadian health system.
00:24:28
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And I was like, this is this not true. Like, i I live in a place with socialized healthcare. care Even calling it that sounds ridiculous, socialized. But just the, ah and it's like,
00:24:39
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you don't have you don't You can experience it and you can be like, this is good, this is bad. But none of these, you think a right-wing radio host in Missouri has really has a ah handle on Canadian healthcare? care like No, he doesn't. Shut up. Well, what they, did they were they hyper harping on, well in Canada, you know, they got to come down here to get the surgeries because they'll make them wait for six years.
00:25:00
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You got grandma suffering and needing a knee replacement. They'll just like harp everything. Just the normal impatience of people who are like, oh, wait, I have a system that I have to wait for because there is no medical necessity.
00:25:15
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And great, if you have the money, do the medical tourism. I would say it doesn't work. It just doesn't. I don't know. Like there was a there's a they were they the guy was saying that I think it was Glenn Beck, maybe.
00:25:26
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So if you were to take a vote today in all of connect Canada and said, we're going to take away our healthcare system that we have and we're going to... Or Costa Rica, for that matter. Or Costa Rica, and we're going to do what the U.S. does.
00:25:37
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I would say the nays against that shit would be near 100%. It would be like 92%. At least. i mean, everybody would go, well, this is what, this is what... Well, first of all, Costa Rica, I'm sure the same with Canada.
00:25:51
Speaker
You have a private option. So if you're worried about waiting and shit, you just, you have a private option. Yeah. So you you can go and that actually keeps the prices down in the private area because that's the way it is. But the, ah you know, I think if people be realistic, they'd be like, I wish this was better. I wish that was better.
00:26:08
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But every time I have a conversation with, in the U S with healthcare, care like related to healthcare, there's always someone like if they go, if I go, well, the problem in Costa Rica is like, if your kid is sick,
00:26:19
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It's better to go to private doctors so you don't have to wait. And they'll be like, fuck I have to wait like three weeks to do anything in the U.S. with my private health care. Like people start basically saying the same problems. Like no one's like, oh, because we're in the U.S., everything I do happens in three seconds.
00:26:33
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Right. Like nobody ever says that ever. Yeah. so And then you'll get all these like this just spear monger. Well, you'll kill innovation. and No. No. They'll stop like building new machines.
00:26:44
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It's just the sales process. They're all Medtronic's trying. My buddy worked for Medtronic in Costa Rica and he's he knows the right places to go get who has funding, you know, departments. You might be going through a government. But I mean, it's just the but it' just the another conversation that I can't listen to because it's it's so stupid because it doesn't, like if you if you're not in a position where you can acknowledge what's wrong because someone else is going to take it and make it a focus,
00:27:07
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like if I went, if I, if I said coast, I mean, it'd be nice if my, my kid was sick in Costa Rica. I didn't have to go to this one office. Oh, fucking and fucking and social. It's like, calm down because there's, there's eight other things that are good about it. Right. It's like, but you get into that. But I mean, this is a dumb thing to say because this is a new, you know, this is editorial radio. they're trying to entertain and get people a roused. So, but it's just, it's so funny, dude. It's, it's so crazy.
00:27:34
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So, The lack of understanding of economics, like if you just look at healthcare, by and large, like life-saving procedures, there's near, we'll go back to economics 101, near inelastic demand, meaning you'd pay as much as humanly possible to save your kid's life.
00:27:53
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So if you look at an industry where that is actually the demand The demand is completely insensitive to price. it's That's a fucked up industry that you can create so many imbalances and and and like essentially like take advantage of people all over the place.
00:28:13
Speaker
And so that to me is is a reason why it should be a government solution that protects the people. There's no way to do it without some level of rationing, some level of of waiting. There's just no way to do it when people will do anything to save their life.
00:28:29
Speaker
so You don't agree with Ronald Reagan of government this government is never the solution. Government is the problem. I do both agree with him in some facets, but not in this particular case.
00:28:41
Speaker
how do we Why are we on that? How did we get here? I have no idea idea. We just started raging. You want me to play my ah big cock thing again for you? We'll get off this. Just the big cock part. Yeah, just the big cock.
00:28:53
Speaker
Big cock. Big cock. Big cock. Yeah, well... what was that What were the show initiatives? You outlined me before, but I don't think we get were talking healthcare.
00:29:05
Speaker
I don't know how we got to this, dude. I mean, I think it's fine now, buddy. Well, there is a... Since we already started, i had no... I was not aware of this, that there were some elections, but it looks like there was... Is it the mayor of New York City or the governor of New York? i don't know who went pretty far left.
00:29:24
Speaker
Well... Yeah. You don't you disagree? I mean... Well, I thought his party was actually, or maybe it was just the radio station I was listening to. Like they're saying, he's is he advertising himself as a socialist? Or is that the people are calling giving him that title?
00:29:39
Speaker
He is advertising himself as a democratic socialist. and It doesn't mean you're not pro-business. and It means you are looking out for the masses. So the best policy is built for that. Bernie Sanders is a great example of that, right?
00:29:52
Speaker
It's a populism. It's a certain populism, but one rooted in taking care of the middle class and lower income folks. all your policies directed towards them. But his two things, lightning rods, one, he wanted to create some you know state-run, city-run grocery stores because there were food deserts, I guess, and certain places where he wanted to keep prices down for that.
00:30:13
Speaker
And then he wanted to cap freeze or cap rent. I don't know exactly, but all the billionaires in the city were flipping out saying they're going to move. And these are just ideas, right? These are ideas. Yeah, yeah I mean big like LA's had rent control Yeah, these are just some ideas and he'll have a hard time to figure out how to implement those but It's so funny because there's like hedge fund managers. This one guy called Bill Ackman. He's a real fucking cock face and he was like, oh I'm moving if mom Donnie gets elected and then a friend of mine just sent a tweet from that bill Ackman guy to mom Donnie
00:30:50
Speaker
Like, oh, look, if you need me, let me know. I'll help you any way I can or something like that. but just you know We talk a lot about hypocrisy, but I don't have a lot of love for the 1%.
00:31:02
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And I'm trying to figure out who has a lot of love for the 1%. These fucking guys are so ridiculous. And so I love this candidate. I love this Mamdani dude just because of how polarizing it is to them.
00:31:19
Speaker
just so that they're like, oh shit, oh shit, if we go socialist, and I wanna see them flip out, because they're so fucking ridiculous. Right, and and the guy's initiative probably is not to go fucking whatever, not just like be like freeze bank accounts and any shit like that. Right, and all these guys were like, we're gonna move, and then that you know the middle class of the city is like, yeah, great, bye, you know what mean? it's it's i don't I don't get what these rich dudes, what their fucking motivation is. They really think their wisdom is what everyone is seeking.
00:31:57
Speaker
They really believe that. Or they they earn the right to be thought leaders because they were financially successful. You made a ton of money, so you're fucking brilliant. And we've bought into that as a site. We've bought in that shit.
00:32:10
Speaker
We've bought into it because money deep with money is our religion. Flat out. is it not Is that not our religion in America? Wow. Come on, Matt. I said it i said it here first.
00:32:21
Speaker
Come on, buddy. there're therere Yeah, I mean, I said something like that to a friend about yeah Even like I've been hanging out with essentially entrepreneurs or but not in that sense of these idiots you're talking about but people that had like a midlife change and And just went I'm gonna do something else and and the idea that we keep coming to conclusion like the only way to do it It's kind of like cut the cord so there's nothing to fall back on but I was telling this Costa Rican friend that I was telling her like We're so, this is such a valuable thing. Like in the U S you're so valued for taking a risk, but all we mean is like a financial risk. It's like, take a financial risk and you're, and if it works, you're, you're celebrated where a lot of the other world be like, that sounds not happy, uncomfortable, terrible, a stressful, terrible way to live.
00:33:09
Speaker
Why would I do that? You know? Right. And we're just like, that's a hero who took a risk and, but and, and like, I mean, I, I like, ah I like the message from some of the people i'm hanging out with where it's like, fine, fine.
00:33:19
Speaker
find something you really like doing. and And to do that, you might have to take a risk. Other people like, you're never going to fucking get your own money. Why make money for other people? when you you know like It's like, well, you're going to need to hire people who are going to try to make money for you, so you can't be like a complete... It'd be like yeah Elon Musk. i don't think he'd say this, but I would never make money for someone else. It's like, you have 1,000 employees or whatever. He's got 10,000 employees that are working working for you.
00:33:43
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But anyways, it's just the the culture of... You're right. It is our religion, but also just that whole idea like... driving for financial success is just so, so valuable. So noble.
00:33:55
Speaker
So noble, yeah. You're so noble because you were a hudge fund hedge fund manager and made a Bunch of money. There's a there's a guy who's pretty famous podcast dude and like professor Scott Galloway, but I think his thoughts are it's like ah hundred million is the max you ever need to do you can live You do all the lifestyle things you would ever need to do in this world with a hundred million anything above that is just an absurdity, right?
00:34:21
Speaker
And I don't know if that's true. i think it's a reasonable threshold for me, but It's just disgusting at some point You wonder, right? And we we did an episode on this. It was the most popular episode.
00:34:33
Speaker
When the pitchforks really come out. And this is what this mom, Donnie guy represents, right? He represents people who are like, fuck this. Take care of the everyday person.
00:34:47
Speaker
This trickle down shit isn't working. And I support it, man. I support it. i don't I think the grocery store thing is fucking stupid, but you know I support the dude. He's a great speaker.
00:34:57
Speaker
I think it's going to get way worse. like that the different like Because it's just so easy to like put implement a plan now, like it or not, with like technology. So if you have the money to implement a plan, a marketing plan, ah invest back in R&D and adapt quickly and everything, as these guys do, like the gap is going to get so big because they're they're so far ahead.
00:35:17
Speaker
yeah like You could solve a lot of problems with ah with a half a trillion dollars. So you could you could, like, if you're only solving them for yourself, that that trillion is going to be 50 trillion pretty quickly.
00:35:28
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Exactly. That's the curse. Yeah, which is... it that what Once you pass a certain threshold, like we say Apple now is worth 4 trillion, it doesn't mean as much. Like, when they pass 1 trillion, it sounded crazy.
00:35:41
Speaker
Yeah. But the idea of, like, going from 1 trillion to 4 trillion is truly insane. But it doesn't sound like much. You know? it's it's It's crazy. No, and... they're Yeah, they're benefiting from just the exponential nature of compounding too.
00:35:57
Speaker
You know, it just... yeah Wealth begets more wealth. And in some ways, that's a magical principle. And you wish more middle class people had that going in their investment accounts. And it just seems like if you look at that billionaire curve and you look at the amount of wealth they have, it just it just keeps going up.
00:36:14
Speaker
And the rest of the folks are fucked. Dude, so... Shit, bro. Shit. let's get Let's lighten it up a little bit. Let's talk about some sports.
00:36:24
Speaker
I got couple questions for you. because So we recorded last week, I believe, on... well well That's a hard transition, bro. Fuck. like I got to... mean, do you want me to interject another commercial because of such a hard transition? Or can you find a way to fucking take it from billionaires to sports?
00:36:41
Speaker
um Well, I was going to try to face mail it. Because the same thing is happening in sports on a smaller scale. And everyone thinks it's ridiculous. Like what these guys are making. Yeah. Like i remember when a baseball player like in the 80s, like that guy's what the fuck? That guy's making $600,000 a year.
00:36:58
Speaker
It was like fucking ridiculous to play a sport or something like that. Or someone signed for a million bucks. And now the... the The salaries are crazy.
00:37:10
Speaker
The revenue is crazy. and But you could you could just as these guys would argue that Elon Musk is that valuable. you know These guys are proving to be very valuable. Like a foreigner.
00:37:23
Speaker
Three foreigners that just won the fucking World Series. I just love that. i sorry Sorry to take a hard left there. But I love the fact that that foreigners are dominating our professional sports and somehow we see them different than any other foreigner that's here fighting, fighting for their lives. Well, yeah, they're athletes.
00:37:42
Speaker
They're, they're some of these roofers and fuck probably, probably got good arms, probably throw a fastball coming out of Tijuana to fucking roof in 114 degree heat. You probably could run you know You probably do some great endurance sports dealing with that kind shit. Would you rather have a roof on your house, bro, or go see a baseball game?
00:38:00
Speaker
You get to go see one professional baseball game and see that amazing $100 million dollar talent. Or you can have a roof on your house. yeah Who am I in this situation? Am I the roofer or myself? No, so you're the customer.
00:38:15
Speaker
And essentially, you're going to value the roofer. So you think the roofer should be making $700 million over 10 years? Possibly. He's a badass. He's a baseball player. He's very talented and entertaining to watch.
00:38:27
Speaker
should be making good money. No, but generally we've taken a shit on people that do work, that's super value to us. The culture really took a shit on teachers. Tried to do an episode on that, we did one, and that one was one of the lowest played.
00:38:38
Speaker
For some reason people really don't like teachers, I guess, because teachers are teaching. I like that. This is almost, ah to the challenge is like, can you get it back to, I could talk about like, ah what do you think a Cooper Flagg?
00:38:52
Speaker
The problem with trickle down economics is. look but we'll stomach it with athletes. And yet we're going to trash a teacher who makes $48,000 because we think that they're turning our kids into trannies or we think that they're fucking teaching evolution, whatever the fuck.
00:39:11
Speaker
Well, there's an issue with any, yeah, a teacher that disagrees or tries to discipline my kid now is is yeah vilified. Anyway, we need to turn the society a little bit, we just need turn upside down for about 10 years.
00:39:25
Speaker
Where what we what we respect is a little more normal. With all this bullshit out there, nonsense, and you you're like, you've you've you've been pretty adamant that you don't like these just stupid conversations about sports.
00:39:38
Speaker
Don't you think we need that more than ever now? Because it's like, what are your other options? Listen to someone call you a communist or listen to someone... demand that you become trans immediately. Those are your only other options. so you can You can talk about Otani. The greatest people on earth are Japanese.
00:39:57
Speaker
yeah I love talking about sports. i just don't When you bring up the the pay, I'm going to go to the broader societal aspects of that. so If you want to talk about sports sports and talent and why you love white basketball players or or things like that, dude, we can fucking do it.
00:40:16
Speaker
you know Dude, bring it you know what? and All this in sports and Elon Musk and what we're not talking about... is all the failure. Like, so those are success stories. so That's one thing.
00:40:27
Speaker
Oh yeah. There's all this, all this big, you know, there's so much wasted investment in, in, in just things that don't work. And athletes like, I think Colorado spent a lot of money to bring this, this quarterback transfer to to the university of Colorado. It's been a bust and it's like, shut the, they had two of the worst losses I've ever seen the last, like in all the shittiness of the last 20 years.
00:40:48
Speaker
they were They were out of it within it in like 10 minutes down by 28 points or something like that. But they brought an athlete in and probably the guy probably got a shitload of NIL money to transfer and it's a failure.
00:40:59
Speaker
Like, don't talk about that. that good, that good? They're good, but not but not like a 70-point favorite. They're not Ohio State good.
00:41:11
Speaker
No, you would like that the what they how they built that program, though. You would like it. Okay, but they destroyed. But no, not Ohio State. Yeah, and then last week. or something's absurd. Dude, that's not even the worst of it.
00:41:23
Speaker
Like, the Utes are actually good. Yeah. Last week, it was Arizona. It was like, oh, oh yeah. That was. But, you you know, you've been, I don't know when, was I don't think we had this in high school. Maybe in your basketball.
00:41:35
Speaker
Have you ever been on a sports team where where people just get apathetic and quit? I mean, that's probably what happened. I think about my men's basketball team. Yeah. And then you're just, you might as well be the shittiest team in the world once everyone's just like, fuck this.
00:41:47
Speaker
Yeah. You know, but that's what a good coach prevents. But you, I agree, but I, I think that's, you know, losing is contagious and winning is contagious. And like, sometimes you almost lose the reins either way.
00:42:00
Speaker
But my point is like, hold on, hold on. We went one in 11. Like, yeah, last year, my, uh, my youth team. The parents wanted to play in the highest bracket. Yeah. My, my top. no I think you told me about this. They want to play in the highest bracket. We had no height.
00:42:15
Speaker
We had no really consistent shooting and we went one in 11. And what did you have? we We had some high no length. No, no. You had some handle, some handles, some good ball handlers, a little bit of driving here and there.
00:42:30
Speaker
We didn't have much. And we had some feistiness on D so, one and 11 and to manage that culture, even at a middle school level, is tough. It's very tough. you lose them by four are you getting just smoked?
00:42:44
Speaker
Couple, I'd say three close games and one of them we won on the last second shot. And that was the only win we had. everybody had Everybody had way more talent, hype.
00:42:55
Speaker
more high and uh then the rest were blowouts the rest were blowouts it was tough and these guys are coming off because they're kids too but i can imagine it even at a college level they're coming off thinking it's somebody else's fault or thinking i mean dion's in a tough position terrible and there's no speech there's no fucking speech that gets you out of it there's just a commitment i guess to improvement and to uh to competing. That's all you can do.
00:43:23
Speaker
you You're so fucked in college football if you don't have a decent quarter. It's like they make or break everything. You can have all this talent, but if your quarterback sucks, it's just that the machine doesn't run. And he's got that going on. I mean, your line your line has to be there too, right?
00:43:37
Speaker
Because if he's being chased around every second, it's brutal. Yeah, there's this guy, Jordan Seton, who's supposed to be like, don't know if you know who talking about, but they keep talking about he's a top one, two pick, and I watch him play.
00:43:50
Speaker
He does destroy people sometimes, but there's a lot of times where people just running around his ass. I mean, playing offensive tackle is a pretty tough position, actually, in now. but Left tackle. You know what like, bro? not I'm not saying because I played there, but now it's really hard.
00:44:07
Speaker
ah Have you ever told somebody, by the way, that you were an offensive lineman recently? I love telling the story of... You know how I got there, dude. ah My brother picked me up from practice one day when we were freshmen.
00:44:20
Speaker
And Peterson, our coach, was like, you're going to get big, Conte. and And I was like, it never happened. i Like for Costa Rica, I got big. but Yeah, never had. He saw my brother who, you know, a senior in high school is 6'3", probably 240. Something like that. And he was like, that's your brother. That's pretty funny.
00:44:41
Speaker
And then I just got my ass pounded for at least two or three years till I put on some weight. But yeah. so But that was a different, we were just firing out, firing out into people's legs.
00:44:52
Speaker
the They left tackle now. It's got to be pretty athletic because they're going up against crazy athletic dudes that are also big. They're going against down down ends, down linemen. They're going like Joey Bossa. What's that dude that won the Super Bowl for the Broncos with the glasses?
00:45:07
Speaker
The dude from Texas A&M? ah Van... Vaughn Miller? Vaughn Miller, there you go. He was a freak, dude. He's a freak. How is left tackle supposed to guard him? He's so quick. No chance. It reminds me of me in high school.
00:45:21
Speaker
In fact, I'm just kidding. i was looking at my so i was looking at the high school stats here locally that school my son goes to. and The max number of interceptions a player has is one.
00:45:34
Speaker
and The max number of tackles they have is 68. I had four interceptions, 136 tackles. Kanapke, Jamie Kanapke had 10 interceptions, bro.
00:45:44
Speaker
He did? 10 his senior year. What the fuck? So between the two of us, 14 interceptions, and I'm looking at their stats, and like, do you guys, do you see the ball? I mean, all these teams can't be just running at you because you don't have the tackle numbers.
00:45:59
Speaker
Fucking Travis Noble allowed you guys to just go be athletes. That fucker. i did look back I did look back at his stats, and he was our middle linebacker for anybody listening and caring about this fucked up conversation. But hit he had the So they do a grade of like how good you are. And Travis was 98% out of 100 in terms of everything you're supposed to do on the football field.
00:46:21
Speaker
I had more tackles or more plays, but but yes, he took on the blocks that allowed me to sneak behind and make a tackle. And then Bo Rogers, who was our safety, he had like a 96, yeah, he passed away I think, right? He had a 96% grade a 76% grade.
00:46:37
Speaker
grades sucked. But your coach loved talking with you little bit though, didn't you think? He did, but I had a lot of plays but I didn't have a great... You had the film, baby. they They loved hyping up Bo as a genius.
00:46:51
Speaker
and like Yeah, yeah. probably Probably Jasper Armstrong, even as a freshman. as This freak athlete defensive end should have had the... He should have been heralded as the best player on that team defensively.
00:47:05
Speaker
he he was good He got him plenty of hype, though. he's That is a great dude. he was I think he was coaching my younger brother, so I used to run into him. He was at Granby or something, but... Jasper Armstrong is ah it was a great dude.
00:47:17
Speaker
But Kanaki, 10 interceptions. in ah In a high school. That's a lot, dude. That's finding the ball, bro. In a linebacker. Me, four? Pretty good, Matt. Two fumble causes, two fumble recoveries. Were guys like dropping?
00:47:30
Speaker
Were you getting a lot of like but flats coverage? or what who Yeah, i didn't I didn't have a single sack because I was i was like a nickel nickel guy. like we I would drop and and do my thing because you know I played safety. you would have done all state Second team All-State safety and then first team linebacker.
00:47:46
Speaker
You would have been pretty valuable in today's game. yeah I think. I mean, the ball way more. Yeah. yeah You cover cover people. Although you would have had to deal with some 6'8", 290 fucker running like a 4'7". Tight end. Yeah, getting fucked.
00:48:01
Speaker
I don't think I'd... I don't know how good I'd be. Wow, man, we flipped that. I'd play tennis, bro. If I could play tennis. Because these guys are all training hard, dude. They're crazy. You ever wish you had... like I look at my kid... I was thinking about this today, dude. Because my kids are like...
00:48:16
Speaker
They're not really doing any mainstream sports right now, but my son is playing the drums. I get videos every night fucking playing Metallica. We listen to so much For Whom the Bell Tolls and all this crap. Loves early Metallica, but he's playing the drums. My daughter's like doing some dance thing. It's great.
00:48:32
Speaker
Surfer. And that's pretty normal down there. you you you dont You don't necessarily have that drive to be in mainstream sports, and I'm so used to that. I'm like, fuck, what are they doing? They're going to get fat. and But it's like, do you you wish...
00:48:45
Speaker
You were in a place like that where the value or the idea was like, get your kid in these other things, the arts and stuff more than like, got to get them as a dope football player. And we got to have a booster club and we got to serve, serve food and all the parents need to get fat as fuck and tailgates and,
00:49:02
Speaker
Uh, yeah, in some ways I do. I just think the sports thing is an empty pursuit for, for many people. It does build some camaraderie, but we've doubled, tripled down on it in our country.
00:49:12
Speaker
But you're having fun with it though, aren't Or not? Well, I happen to have a, ah very, i like, I, I have, I have, I was a solid athlete. My son happens to be a very solid athlete. And so it's super fun in that context. But you have, I'm really focused on the eighth grade and under.
00:49:28
Speaker
You just have a whole of society chasing this stuff. And it's, we've we've done stuff on this before, but it's sad. Sad to watch. But you have fun like the parents doing their shit, their gringo shit, booster clubs. The investment.
00:49:40
Speaker
Yeah. It's the early ages where you see the parents yelling on the sidelines and the investment in gear for a kid that really isn't into it, the kids being pushed and this desperation, all that stuff is is sick and twisted.
00:49:54
Speaker
And yeah, it'd be much better to be like, no man, just don't you check out these waves and we'll slow it down and maybe listen to Pink Floyd. Let me ask you this. So as as we go far left, we we're far right at the top, but we're going far left and and most of our kids now are gay or whatever are in in probably drama club.
00:50:14
Speaker
Do you still get a lot of trim by being like a great athlete in high school is that not valued because everyone's into other shit? It's still there. There's still that status, but then there's a subgroup that we wouldn't even understand. of sort of like, I don't know what they even call them. I'd call them like little tweakers, but that's a more powerful subgroup than it would have ever been in our era. The little tweakers, as you call them, I need more info on that, but they're the pop popular kids.
00:50:38
Speaker
They're like the anti-establishment, anti-sports. Yeah, they just have more status than they would have had, you know. Back when we were squashing them. But we were we had a little bit of that.
00:50:49
Speaker
I thought that was the nice thing about our – I never felt like we – well, maybe I'm completely off base. but there was no I never felt like there was some jock authority at our high school. There's still a little more creative vibe.
00:51:02
Speaker
Yeah, our school was unique. We We fucking led that. Yeah, there we did. Dude, our school was unique because we all started together without upperclassmen influence or one grade ahead of us. Right. And that's what made it super unique. and then And I think our class generally knew each other and respected all the different subgroups. It wasn't like... That was a bridge, dude.
00:51:24
Speaker
Let's be honest. that was I was assuming. That was bridge between a lot of different skaters fucking Rastafaris. I stayed away from the blacks. but and Just kidding, dude. they were they were all They were all our boys.
00:51:42
Speaker
We united. good racial Good racial unity in our in our class, I believe. Yeah, it's still that way there, I hear. I mean, there's definitely more diversity. you know we It was pretty diverse when we were there coming up, but it's there's more and it's still a solid vibe.
00:51:59
Speaker
because Chris, who we've had as a guest, his wife teaches there. Pretty dope. Eagle Crest High School, you're listening. it's we got good We should probably have Chris back on sometime. His kid is probably as old as your kid.
00:52:15
Speaker
is He's got one older and one younger. so just ah Just in between. because He had a kid who was a baller too, right? He's a hooper. At Eagle Crest. It's not but an easy team to make the varsity team, right?
00:52:29
Speaker
We beat the shit out of them the summer. Oh, yeah? yeah they They also lost a lot of their talent, dude. So they're kind of rebuilding.
00:52:40
Speaker
Because it's a ghetto? they They died? that what you're saying? They got shot. Ricky! Ricky! Did go ball did any of those kids go go play ball after after high school, do you know?
00:52:56
Speaker
The center, six nine guy going to Fort Lewis, which is Division II school in Durango, Colorado. He's going there. He's going to clean up in that town, dude. I i think he yeah he's going to get a lot of trim, is what you mean?
00:53:08
Speaker
Or basketball, he's going to get boards. Boards or trim? I'm saying trim. but like that guy he is you Is he going to treat that like a one-stop? ah A stop and then a Did you ever watch him play? Was he good?
00:53:20
Speaker
He was very good. Jump hook and 6'9 dope and that's what he could get Ford Lewis. ah the The world has changed but it is insane. I mean I think it's great. I'm just saying if I hear six nine I immediately think D1.
00:53:36
Speaker
Yeah like why isn't Colorado in on that? Right because it's the world has changed. The pool motherfuckers all over Africa all over the world now are coming for D2 schools.
00:53:48
Speaker
Obviously you know that's the case in D1 and and It's just tough. It's tough. There's so much money in it.
00:53:57
Speaker
um how How deep you're you're your family, you're like a basketball family now because ah you got someone who's balling. Does that mean the whole thing comes with it? Like hip hop culture?
00:54:08
Speaker
Like, does there basketball culture comes with it that creeps out into, I guess ah I would say it's more of a suburb school, or is it just this white boy can play and he's fucking doing what he does?
00:54:20
Speaker
Or is it like, are you guys deep into that? Is he into that? Not really. He's not. He's a mellow kid, though. But, yeah, I would say I've seen... think what school you're at. if you're a white boy. What's the the professor? Like, he... It sounds like going full professor?
00:54:36
Speaker
Nah. Who seems like a good dude, by the way. He does. He's a cool dude. But he's definitely got the talk. He's got... Like, the whole thing is more of a hip-hop culture.
00:54:46
Speaker
Yeah. They almost... jason williams little bit too yeah that style that's a that's like uh older that's like our generation yeah that crafty style boys would do that yeah oh yeah well you're talking about on the court i'm talking on the court that crafty style is not in vogue at the moment it is pure athleticism and size you know or very direct types of play con canipple type shit like just boom i'm gonna You know very direct, forceful, strong.
00:55:19
Speaker
Right. Yeah. Also, he's fucking amazing and has a great first step. Of course. i mean, on a relative basis, he'll blow by almost anyone in the country. Yeah. And thick. He reminded that dude that I that I roomed with. You remember Todd?
00:55:34
Speaker
Oh, God. He was just a Todd Vanderein. Fucking great guy, but weird as fuck. yeah He was a good basketball player.
00:55:45
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He was a great basketball player, and he had a great shot. he was and he was He was just a meaty dude. His muscular structure. was off the charts. I used to say to him, dude, oh my God, I look at him and be like, I was like, I was a linebacker and look at you, bro. You don't even fucking do anything in your, because his shoulders were like, I don't know how he came out of his mom's box.
00:56:06
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the so Those shoulders are so wide, but just natural, like that body, that's the kind of, two guard point guard they're looking at now. You know, he's the kind of guy that could play full speed basketball at 215, 220. Right.
00:56:22
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right His body's there. That's what they look at, man. There's this kid we, you know, Charlie has played with or my kid has played with and that you'd see the two next to her. My kid's 6'5", but lean.
00:56:33
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This kid's 6'6", but just like unbelievably thick. Is he good? Skill-wise, he's not the same as my kid, but he will get offers because they look at, they want to know that you can withstand the punishment.
00:56:50
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I mean, it's tough. It's a different game. You used to get hyped if you looked like your son, like, kind of not fully matured yet, where they'd be like the upside. yeah that was That was like 15 years ago. Yeah, no, they don't like that anymore.
00:57:02
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There's like no more upside. Can you can you come in? Right now. ah well Right now. right now Same with the coaches. you You fucking lose three games in a row, you're fired. Dude, it's insane. I mean, we we touch we touched on it. I jokingly touched on it at the end of the show. i I think we should just keep going. and yeah I mean, I don't know how you... I think that's like... It all ties in, though, even how you started this conversation with Elon Musk, where it's just like you they make they make it so There's no shame in firing someone or getting rid of someone or fuck because i you got paid.
00:57:37
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So kiss our ass. you you didn't you didn't Your probation period was three games. You sucked. Here's your 50 million and go fuck yourself. like it's it's like yeah we didn't We didn't say you have five years to build a program. We said, like can you beat our rival this year?
00:57:50
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And that's it. Oh, I know. it's fine It's so stupid. They can do it. The problem is there's a model now. With NIL, you go out and you make ah you you make a team, like Indiana, for example. Yeah. The sports business overall is it disgusting.
00:58:03
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You remember Pat Connaughton? I'm sure you do. White boy played for Milwaukee. Okay. He was a first-round baseball draft pick too, right? Okay. Anyway, he got traded. Is he on the Celtics now? No. He's on the Hornets. He's like 32.
00:58:16
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And the Hornets were like, look, dude, you're probably not going to make the team. Anyway, he made the team. Probably not going play much at all. I heard that story. Yeah. Still making 10 mil.
00:58:27
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It's been this way his whole life, right? Like just saying no, no, no. Still making 10 million though, where he won't play a lick. And i don't know, man. It's just a weird environment.
00:58:42
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Have you, yeah, it's a weird environment, but, but, uh, Good for him. Fuck it. I mean, I don't know how to look negatively on it. It's like the roofer should get some of that 10 million. Yes, I agree. Or I should.
00:58:54
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But whatever. You know, it's so far off. It's just so it's so crazy what I would consider this to be successful. My my company compared to what a utility infielder or a eleventh man on the bench in the NBA is making.
00:59:10
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Like, I can't even imagine what it would take for this thing to be successful where I was where I was making 10 million a year. Oh, God. It would be like 22 sites all across the Midwest.
00:59:23
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Yeah, just nonstop. Like every five minutes someone's walking in like, i need a table. I need a table. I need a table. Yeah. It's not that Pat Connaughton isn't worth that or anything. It's more of like, look what our society values.
00:59:35
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It is. i mean, Like, what do you say the top five values are based on where money's flowing for the average person? You'd probably say one of them at least is sports. Yeah.
00:59:49
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How much these guys are making, how much attention span goes to it. I mean, sports has become one of the last big industries and um in the U.S. Well, not the last, but like it is our it is our industry. Entertainment, sports is like, that's what we do now. Yeah. yeah And then number two would be like helping the poor, right?
01:00:09
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Like that's like a huge thing in our society. Really being very charitable and like helping the poor. I'm looking at Pat while you say this. Yeah, but you think that's good? Right, Pat?
01:00:21
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that's I actually, I think you're being facetious, but I think it's true. No, it's not true. Give me fucking break. Well, maybe it's not useful, but there's all, you know, there is like a big thing around.
01:00:33
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It's, it's like, i don't know if you're actually doing anything good, but you're making people feel like they're doing something good. So might be like, oh we're doing a five K walk for diabetes or, and like well I don't know how your walk correlates to anything, but ah yeah, there there is an industry around that. I thought that's what you meant.
01:00:49
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Anyways, go ahead. No, there is an industry around, but I'm asking you, do you walk around American culture and go, oh, yeah, this is a society that really takes care of its most struggling citizens.
01:01:01
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No, you don't. Okay, I'm joking. Weakness. Weakness is mad. Weakness is mad. Weakness mad. wall street which includes billionaires. That is, you have to agree. That's one of our top values.
01:01:16
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Investing, crypto, fucking all this stuff. Well, financial success is, is what it comes down to. And somebody who, somebody, but I can't think of any others.
01:01:27
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Do you think of any other values besides obsession of sports, which includes all the sports gambling and all the bullshit and, Oh, well, there's this weird there's this weird idea of religious freedom and imposing your religion at the same time. There's like this religious freedom and your religion's wrong.
01:01:44
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that that the you know Most of what the the this version of the America was founded on was basically religious people looking for religious freedom so that they could live a non-free religious life.
01:01:58
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you know yeah It's just not cohesive, right? It's not cohesive and it's like, I don't know if that would be... something we'd all look around and say, yeah, this is what America's about. I definitely think the sports. Like it or not.
01:02:10
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The financial, you think it is. Okay, so I don't. Jesus and sports is. You think Jesus? I mean, well, maybe you not maybe know where you are. Colorado, like like Colorado Springs, yes.
01:02:22
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Midwest, yes. South, yes. Jesus, guns, and sports is a lot of the U.S., which is freedom. Well, people say protect their freedom, worshiping Jesus and sports and then all that ties into okay I will I will show freedom I will concede that you're right when you drive around this country there is a fuck ton of churches and you're wondering to yourself where are people coming from to fill that church oh in that church and that church
01:02:57
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there It is a religious society, although it comes across as very ignorant to me. It's very... it It's shits. a religious process, but not living as our man would have wanted us to is what is a bit of hypocrisy. some Christians out there. no transcendence.
01:03:16
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There's just a potluck with ribs and fucking high C fruit juice. and You know what saying? There's no real collective understanding of what that's about.
01:03:27
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This is, so it's like, what are our communities formed around now? Because of yeah like the people that aren't lonely, like what are they doing while they're either going to their kids' sports or or getting together to watch sports or or doing church functions or shooting things?
01:03:43
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or That's it. Shooting things. um do You think guns? I think there's a clash on the guns thing. I don't know that it's it's a top value of this country, but it's certainly, it's a current...
01:03:58
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it's wrapped up in this idea of freedom. Protect your freedom at all costs is a very American thing where you're like, what? yeah Like, I mean, it's good, but it's, it's so like everything gets wrapped up into freedom. So it becomes like a message of take my guns away. What's next, you know, or, or, yeah take my you overtax me.
01:04:18
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That's an attack on my freedom. Have you, speaking of freedom to enjoy convenience stores, Have you been into a 7-Eleven when you're in St. Louis or something like that? What do you think of 7-Elevens just as a concept? They're ghetto pieces of the shit. what like yeah We got some great... they call I don't know why dont Maybe they do, but like the the convenience stores in Costa Rica are like nice night really nice places.
01:04:42
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You go into you might get some like fresh bread. like ah ah like Why they just make a nice 7-Eleven? It would be fresh here. So it's what do you mean? it's like ah It's like i click a many whole foods? mean, it's called a mini super.
01:04:55
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Okay. No, just like, it yeah but I mean, I don't know if a whole, what's a nice grocery store that's not whole foods? Sprouts, maybe, or Trader Joe's? But those are all like, no, I'm saying it's a it's not like, oh, it's all organic and pussified. Yeah, I see.
01:05:10
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Yeah, but it's a nice experience. 7-Eleven feels like ghetto when you go in there. It's like all they sell is like weird like weird smoking products. and and beers yeah energy drinks and like tall tall boy bush lights or something like that candy like really sugary stuff taquitos they be giving the people that to like that are ah like Dr. Kevorkian is giving people taquitos 7-11 sells cancer just that's all they sell feels like shit so if I go into one of these Tico comedian stores I'm like they got anything I can buy produce
01:05:51
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I can buy, they have some energy drinks, but it's not their focus. Smoking products and you can you can get a lot of different stuff. What business in America doesn't sell cancer? We went to Topgolf when you were here in Colorado.
01:06:04
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To me, you're standing there, the most exercise you get is just swinging the club. and is really about sucking down beers and potato skins having really shitty food because their menu is full of just, you know, Americanized bad food.
01:06:19
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It's cancer. It should be called top cancer or get cancer while hitting a ball. That must be why that business model doesn't work. That's a bit. That's a bit. have you ever I've never driven by a Topgolf or like the park the parking lot is like people are, park it looks like a fucking Beatles concert. There's so many cars in ah in the parking lot or or, you know, Taylor Swift.
01:06:41
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yeah You can't get in the parking lot. talk Talk about usurping usable land. I mean, you need like 42 acres to build one of these fucking places. And it could have been farmland. It could have been trees absorbing ah carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide. it's It's unbelievable how big these places are. that our Only our society would sign, i don't know, the permit to build some fucking monstrosity like that.
01:07:08
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Everywhere. All over. Dude, I almost pulled over. yeah yeah I was driving by the Topgolf here, and i couldn't get over how big the netting, like the poles, the hole. I was like... I never realized it, but I'm like, those fuckers are huge.
01:07:22
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but You should have gotten into the giant net business, bro. You could have made giant nets for top cancer. oh There's so many businesses, it would have been easier. so yeah But they're packed, and which is fine. I don't have the problem with it. You do. I i don't know if I want to go hang out there.
01:07:38
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But I wonder why that worked. like It's just a driving range. like why why do why do people why are people willing to go drop there? I don't know, man.
01:07:49
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We can speculate. I think that they they saw the enjoyment people were having in golf courses. And maybe the first concept was like somebody had like a food stand out there because people were just incessantly driving and they loved it.
01:08:04
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Probably after autoto Tiger Woods, you know, was hitting those bombs like almost nobody had ever hit before. And then everybody wanted to get the driving range. Maybe that was it. Because if you've ever been to a normal driving range, it's fun, but it's like they they captured this whole thing.
01:08:19
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But now, like, because how's the parking? Because I can't imagine some real avid
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01:08:24
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golfer. He goes to work out there if he's trying to, like, you know, hit a bucket of balls and and work on a swing. Is he going to top golf?
01:08:30
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Maybe is it heated? Maybe that's what it is. Well, it's, come I mean, it's got everything. Yeah, but they they captured something. Would your son ever go hang out there with his friends, like teenage kids? i too expensive Too expensive. But he would definitely go if I took him. I mean, and we've been a couple times, but like it's ah it's an absurdity in terms of like it's capitalism at its peak to me.
01:08:51
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It's only downhill because like that thing, you know multiple bars... uh, how many bays? There's like 60 bays of fat fucks.
01:09:02
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You can't even get into them sometimes. No, you gotta wait, you gotta reserve. But when you wait, you can, you have wait, waitresses coming up to you, waiters coming up to you. Anywhere you sit, you can consume and just eat. You can have ribs.
01:09:15
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You can have fucking corn muffins. You can wait and then you can do your golf, have more drinks and have more food. Uh, I bet you people like admire it so much. The whole thing, the convenience, the food.
01:09:27
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I bet you people just like, what a what a great thing, man. And they're getting act they probably think they're getting exercise. like It's a net loss. Yeah, man. Just chilling, dude. I love fucking fucking love it here.
01:09:41
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But it's it's cancer, right? It's cancer, let's be honest. They're not going to sponsor us. Nope. They also, they made it, i mean, as i as as I think through it it, was almost a dumb question. Like, they even made it like a video game.
01:09:56
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So when we were fucking around, none of our, you and I are, well, I used to golf a little bit. I don't like it that much. But the two, our two friends, one of them likes to golf, off the other one maybe a little bit. But we at least we could, like, play some stupid game together. but Like a video game where they're keeping track of closest to the hole or something like that.
01:10:12
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So they made a little competition. Yeah, they really did it, dude. They did well. and Are they publicly traded? Are you into them? Are you in them? How many shares Topgolf do you have?
01:10:23
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Well, probably have them through an ETF that tracks all stocks, Matt, because I don't fuck with individual stocks. What about, have you heard of Zen Pouches? yeah Maybe.
01:10:34
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So it's like a derivative of chewing tobacco, but it's a pouch of nicotine you put in between your... Is it Swedish? Is it the Swedish Zen patches? That thing? It's not a patch. It's like you put in your mouth.
01:10:46
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But you gotta hear the ads that these motherfuckers put out. And I apparently was really took off on the right because of Tucker Carlson. And it's it's been years since he he talked about it, i think. But the ads are so funny.
01:11:00
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It's like, it's something like, you you want the freedom to be you? You want the freedom to be who you are? Zen pouches can get you there.
01:11:11
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There's no talk of nicotine or the fact that it's addictive until like the very end when the dude starts talking super fast. It's so weird. You're not even describing what it is. ah You know, really what it just says, is like, put these in your mouth. You'll get a nice little buzz.
01:11:28
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help you Help you get through the day, bro. That's the ad. But no, they're just like they're talking about like did what i don't know man i don't get there's a push online that nicotine is somehow like good for you or something like that is there something like that going now i figured as much because it it's almost snl like their approach you want the freedom to be you yeah i mean yeah there's some real comical stuff do you want the freedom to grow a big cock do you want to Tell your girlfriend, bend over, bitch.
01:12:01
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Zen can get you there. A Zen pouch will make her bend over ASAP. ASAP means as soon as possible. And you're just like confused, like Zen pouch.
01:12:14
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It's an absurd SNL commercial. Take that, America. Take that. We just did it. Roller coaster, dude. This is one of those ones where you're like, um should I listen to this one?
01:12:28
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Oh, yeah, you should. be giving It's really about arms races. We're talking about arms races. and In every category of American society, there's an arms race. and And now it's contagious across the world. roll Zen pouches, like tobacco, whatever, roller coasters.
01:12:44
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There's no such thing as a normal roller coaster now. It has to be... a literal absurdity. It's got a drop 960 feet with two G-forces ripping off your fucking face in 600 loops, and and it just nothing stops.
01:13:01
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It's so weird. Rollercoasters suck now. They're like terrifying. It's ridiculous. yeah you're so no No longer are you sitting on the track. You're like swinging under it and looping around it and fucking a spinning. It's like you're ah a ball in a pinball machine. You're just like... wo I used to love roller coaster. We went to Universal like two, three years ago. My daughter was like, let's go again. i'm like, this sucks.
01:13:25
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This thing, it's like the the the thrill wasn't on the way down. Like the drop, it was like forcing you up for a while. And it was like, this is terrifying. As your is your whole body's just dangling.
01:13:36
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Yeah. So dumb. Like some of them go backwards like all the time. it's like it rips you around and now you're going backwards. Just settle down. okay I was fine with the wooden roller coaster, one decent hill and a couple bumps and a couple turns.
01:13:51
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It was great. And now it's rip your fucking face off. You know, couple people died. yeah You know, it's just- You just reminded me of something. We should have started the show with this, but last night I went to the Sophisticated Living Magazine Awards.
01:14:05
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And so it was all like designed like interior designer awards and architecture awards. How many gays? huh how many gays it's a joke more at least two i know that okay go ahead but uh i'll cut that i'll cut that i don't you you actually you would like the there's a stereotype that the interior design community is all just a bunch of gay dudes but i barely met any sucks oh really i thought kind of fun yeah right i thought there'd be like you know Like none. um I met... ill say i met one like well I think last night I met a few, but you'd think it's like 80% gay.
01:14:42
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Yeah, like like Will and Grace. You wanted like Sean Hayes like running around. Ah, my God! Look at this table! But he's also badass at what he does. That dude has huge arms.
01:14:53
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He has really big arms. so yeah Really? Yeah, he does. He's got big arms. I mean i don't know either. He does a lot of curls. but I leaned over to At one point, there it was like some award for best outdoor setting under 3,000 square feet or some shit.
01:15:11
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And I leaned over to the the girl who was there with me who like helping me with sales. And I was like, you know, this looks so ridiculous when you're coming from the third world. Like, it's truly insane. Like, the shit that they were building in the houses and stuff, which is I'm trying to get into now, I guess. But it was just like, what are we worried about up here?
01:15:28
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Like, it's so it's so ridiculous. Yeah. And it's just the whole thing is like follow your passion. You're building people's dreams with the 6,000 foot, you know, skylight filtered room with, with, you know, Italian, Italian, uh, granite or where granite courts that came from the Dolomites. It's like, we're insane.
01:15:49
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We are. You remember that guy, Travis that was on the pod? He was, we did sports talks with him. Yeah. what is it No, he wasn't Larry sold his business. he We talked baseball with him?
01:16:00
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Yeah, yeah. oh His kids were playing ball and maybe he was busy as F. Well, yeah. Anyway, yeah, I'm just commenting that he bought and grew ah a home audio business, you know, essentially catering to the wealthy, like building in like sweet, insane audio throughout the entire house, like absurd stuff.
01:16:21
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Yeah. And he and he sold that business. But like the stuff that – people are putting in into their lives, I guess, is so fucking stupid. I mean, it's not stupid. It's just like, it's a lot.
01:16:34
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um Yeah, it's this it's crazy. I mean, I saw all this shit and i was like, oh, that's pretty cool. But it's like, and Like the whole, it comes back the financial thing where we don't have any guilt because we're like, I earned it and I took a risk and I did this. and And it's like, maybe I'll get there one day and I'll be like, what am I talking about? Or maybe even my life that I've lived through a lot of people be like, well, you could have done, could have helped people with that money. You took a trip to the beach or whatever. It's like,
01:17:00
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But it's it's just funny, like at some point you're like, what are you doing building ah building that, like ah like a you know ah fucking eight foot by 30 foot marble island or something in your kitchen with it? You're like, that's insane, you know?
01:17:16
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But you know where everybody hangs out, Matt. Where do they hang out, buddy? That's right. In the kitchen. In the island. Around that island. If we if we we happen to have 19 more kids, we have space for them here at our island.
01:17:31
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it's just It just cracks me up. but It's giving me good perspective because i see I see this stuff and I'm just like, what the fuck are people doing? Our neighbors, I'll call them out right now. They'll never listen. They have a built-in in the back like Very nice built-in brick stuff with a, they had a specific pizza oven built into it. So it. I'm down with that.
01:17:54
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It was good. And they have built-in grill and all that stuff built into very beautiful, like stone. That, and that's crazy though. That's just crazy to me. They use it. They make pizzas or is it just. I'm sure they use it, but it's like, it's just crazy to me.
01:18:08
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Like I can't wait to see the standard of good living 50 years from now. Just be robots everywhere, massaging everyone, like a lot of fingering and and jerking and things like that. Whatever you need at in the moment, whatever food you need, ribs, pizza, ribs, lot ribs.
01:18:28
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yeah If they're in style, if ribs go out style, because what you'll find, what I'm finding in this market is like, So all that shit, whatever I'm talking about, they're winning awards and shit, but people would be like, yeah, that's out.
01:18:40
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So it's like full remodel like within the next 10 years because it's just some old lame shit. It's like, that's from 2010. Right. fucking nonsense. And ah that's crazy.
01:18:52
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I feel like you just went through improv training because you're willing to you take you'll take whatever I throw out and you'll run. You'll fucking just run with it, bro. With the ribs? You're like, yes.
01:19:02
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You're just like, yes. Say something else. Yes. You think anyone could follow that? Like someone where i where I went, yeah, if ribs are in style, like if if they're like, yeah, he tied that back to, if they're like, what the fuck? They're they're reaching today.
01:19:17
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No, they're not reaching. They're just entertaining, bro. Just entertaining. All right, dude, I'm done. You done? Don't edit it, dude. Nothing to cut out. Nothing to cut out, bro. I know. I've been doing this game now two and a half years. I know when something flows and when something's shit.
01:19:33
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okay Trust. Let me close on this. Trust me. Trust, though, first. Trust. I trust you. I said it on air. I love the... We've got a couple more minutes. when I do like the culture. so You have this culture of all these people that are like...
01:19:51
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This is the latest and greatest thing. When you get down to the people that are doing in the work or quoting it, same with me with my slabs and shit, you'll meet this guy whose whose job is like to get people to remodel their kitchens. I don't give fuck any quarts or granite or fucking wood. i don't give a shit. I just book it, make it fucking do whatever they want. like Nobody really gives a fuck.
01:20:11
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you know So you get this cool vibe of people are like, it's not it doesn't feel as capitalistic because they're not they're just like, i don't fucking care, man. i just want someone to buy some shit. so i can It's just so funny, dude.
01:20:22
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It's just people like I don't give a fuck. They got new tile or fucking marble. long as they fucking come in here and buy some shit. its So I've had that like in those terms with the F-bombs and everything like five times. where It's just like here's your latest countertop and then off the side it's like fuck care if they use that fucking thing anyways makes me laugh dude yeah yeah let let the women pick yeah say it again you didn't tell me everyone I look like fucking Jabba the Hutt again no you don't today there's a different angle yeah i do I can see it. I look like a fat piece of shit.
01:20:57
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You look like you're prepping for a jerk because once I have a bit and I start with that bit, I got to keep fucking bringing it. and i pound people with it. I want to punish them with bad comedy.
01:21:08
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This is probably the how it happens. like I have a computer screen in front of me. I'm kind of just kicking it in bed here. Yeah, I don't need the screen much. I can... hagen I just picked somebody I saw, some chick I saw.
01:21:22
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ah Maybe it was the dental hygienist. Maybe it was a chick walking the dog. i just I just run, dude. Imagination just runs, bro.
01:21:34
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I don't, yeah, mean, it's not, you don't need the screen. don't, I, I, I don't think I'm really watched porn like the screen in a long time or not even really much.
01:21:45
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We haven't talked about this in a while. Maybe we do another episode, but the screen is full of sick and twisted shit. Okay. It's not your Playboy magazine. It's getting weirder right now.
01:21:58
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It is. It's not your Playboy magazine, dude, which was perfectly fine for me. But even then, it'd be like Playboy, like, oh, these women are fake. But like that, as we talk about things, have been pushed to a crazy level. yeah level I don't mean fakeness like vanity. or fit like I mean actual just a weird look. like it's like It's actually...
01:22:17
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I think there's not that push to make it make your your work done naturally now. It's almost like show off the fact that it's not natural, but you did some work. Or it's the arm race arms race thing that we talked about where it like, how many dicks can I get in me all at once? Or what absurd, disgusting thing can I showcase that nobody else is doing? like i'm taking I've got three dicks in my mouth, three in my butt, and six in my vagina, and that's like...
01:22:42
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And I got two hands going. like a new thing, right? Getting bicep curls in. End on that. Say yes to that. I'm out. I am.
01:22:54
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I am. I am a people ass. I am. I I am a people ass. I am. am people ass.