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My Halloween Horror Haven: Turning Harriet Tubman featuring Sabria (Episode 91)
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In this episode of My Halloween Horror Haven, I’m joined by my longtime friend Sabria, a fellow horror aficionado, writer, and creator. We take a deep dive into all things spooky, from our earliest memories of loving horror to our favorite movies. Tune in as we explore the dynamics of power, race, and queer identities through the lens of Interview with the Vampire, discussing how the show reimagines Louis as a Black man and reflects the struggles of marginalized identities.
Plus, we play a fun, vampire-themed game of "Turn or Feed," where we imagine which celebrities we’d turn into vampires or feed on for their talents. Ever wondered what a vampire Beyoncé or Harriet Tubman would be like? Sabria also shares her thoughts on the space for Black and queer people in horror, offering insights into representation in modern horror films and where we still need progress.
Don’t miss this fun and insightful conversation between two horror lovers who’ve been friends since the early 2000s!
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:37
gatherthempod
Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Gather Them podcast. I am your host Jerome. And we are back with another episode. And I have a special guest with me today. um And it is one half of Black Girl Crunch podcast talking about you know all the things related to black women, black girls, um black empowerment, all of those good topics. and horror enthusiasts as well. um My friend Sabria.
00:01:11
Sabria
Hey, y'all. As you see, I have Frankenstein's monster in the back here.
00:01:16
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:01:16
Sabria
So yes, I am that horror girly.
00:01:19
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:01:19
Sabria
So I'm so excited to talk about all things horror today with my good Judy.
00:01:26
gatherthempod
Yes, I am so excited. I'm like hiding mine, which is like for a bit. I bet you right here. So there's um these like that. photos and then there's like the tells from the Crip.
00:01:35
Sabria
Oh, I love that.
00:01:37
gatherthempod
My friend got me that ah tells from the Crip poster.
00:01:39
Sabria
Oh, I love that.
00:01:41
gatherthempod
So I'm like hiding my stuff. I'm going to I got to set up better is it'll get it. We'll get it to together. um But welcome. How are you doing today?
Energy Drinks Discussion
00:01:50
Sabria
I'm good. I just said earlier, I don't know if it's the adrenaline from coming from the gym, but like, I didn't even have my Celsius yet. And I just feel like I'm like floating. So when I add the Celsius later, I'm definitely gonna be like, but yeah, I feel good.
00:02:06
gatherthempod
That's so crazy that Celsius is like your thing and Red Bull has become my thing.
00:02:10
Sabria
That is it's funny, because I can rebel will have me like shaking.
00:02:15
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:02:15
Sabria
Like I can only drink the sugar free one.
00:02:17
gatherthempod
I have to drink the sugar free one.
00:02:17
Sabria
But I'm Yeah, I'm good with the sugar-free one, but like a regular Red Bull, I'm like. this is to do do to do but ah Yes, I really like, I'm like, oh, it do give you wings.
00:02:24
gatherthempod
Now you feel like you vibrate.
00:02:30
Sabria
But like, it's so weird that like Celsius does not bother me. Like I have coworkers, it's like, it had me, my heart pound and stuff like that. I'm like, oh, I'm fine. um
00:02:40
gatherthempod
Yeah, I don't remember it doing it for me.
00:02:43
Sabria
Yeah. But I did read that like if you do have ADHD or ADD, energy drinks, it's just like it just neutralizes you.
00:02:49
gatherthempod
Oh, well.
00:02:55
Sabria
it doesn't like So I think that's what's happening to me. I'm just being neutralized.
00:03:00
gatherthempod
Yeah, I think, and that might be true because I feel like the Adderall for me brings me up and then it's like something about the energy drink where it like, it'll balance me out.
00:03:11
gatherthempod
But if I just have an energy drink without my meds, I'm like, no, like it's just, I feel like I'm out of control.
00:03:17
Sabria
Yeah, no, that's the that's same thing with me. I'm like, it's like, cause to me, for me, it's Lexapro in the Celsius. And if I just said the Celsius by the Lexapro, I'm like, I'm about to start wild and I'm feeling devious.
00:03:33
gatherthempod
Yes. Oh my God. But yeah, like tell us a little bit about yourself.
Sabria's Background and Horror Enthusiasm
00:03:39
gatherthempod
Like tell us, um, you know, your Philly girl, of course. Um, but yeah, tell us a little bit about yourself as much as you feel comfortable with. I don't like to pressure people into telling things that they don't feel comfortable with on the podcast.
00:03:55
Sabria
Well, thank you. I am from West Philly.
00:03:59
gatherthempod
Period.
00:04:00
Sabria
And yeah, I'm from West Philly. I am a art major. I went to art school. um I love film, video, TV. That's my thing.
00:04:12
Sabria
um And of course, horror. I love Things that are just like very like ah Gruesome, but also like funny at the same time.
00:04:25
Sabria
I am go by frankenstein on all my socials um Because I am obsessed with frankenstein's monster um And the bride of frankenstein dr.
00:04:36
Sabria
Frankenstein that whole everything I'm and up until recently actually I was a big zombie girl but I am yeah I was a big zombie girl but now vampires have gotten me um so but yeah that's just a little bit about me um I have been in Tahara since I since I was a little kid I kind of was forced into it honestly um
00:04:47
gatherthempod
Really? OK.
00:05:07
gatherthempod
Not forced it.
00:05:08
Sabria
Yeah, I was forced into it. I was forced into it because my mom, um me and my co-host, my podcast, who's my best friend, Ipon, we always talk about it because we always we've both have moms.
00:05:21
Sabria
Both our moms are Pisces. And if you know anything about Pisces, they really don't give a shit. And they don't care if they like something, they like, listen, all right, it's a horror movie.
00:05:32
Sabria
I want to watch it. I don't care if I have a job. She going to watch it too.
00:05:34
gatherthempod
No.
00:05:36
Sabria
And that's how my mom was. like my mom wanted to watch the fly she wanted to watch pumpkin head okay i don't care if you're five years old we gonna sit down and watch the fly with jeff go boom and we gonna watch pumpkin head oh
00:05:47
gatherthempod
No, my ah my aunt was kind of like that too, though, because she was into like Jurassic Park and stuff, but she was a cancer.
00:05:55
Sabria
i loved it oh those are water sounds are some sick people it's so talks about it but what is that
00:06:04
gatherthempod
No, my dad was a Pisces. Yes.
00:06:06
Sabria
Water signs are some devious people.
00:06:06
gatherthempod
Yeah. Yes.
00:06:09
Sabria
People always think it's like me, like the fire sign.
00:06:13
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:06:13
Sabria
like No, it's water signs.
00:06:13
gatherthempod
No.
00:06:16
Sabria
They are some devious people. like When I told y'all that lady did not care, I was watching the scariest Freddy Cougar, which is, well, when I was a kid, a new nightmare.
00:06:26
gatherthempod
boom That was the scariest one.
00:06:26
Sabria
That was the scariest one. Scariest. I was watching it like as a kid, and my mom did multiple times watching it. That lady did not hear care. She didn't care.
00:06:35
gatherthempod
That is so funny.
00:06:36
Sabria
Yeah.
00:06:37
gatherthempod
My mom was the kind of person where she would be mindful, I think, because she wouldn't watch anything that was like, too like super. both my parents were they weren't watching stuff that was like super crazy around me but like I would end up watching stuff like it or child's play or um oh my god like the ah Halloween movies like things like that that you know my mom would be watching or like some of the Alfred Hitchcock movies
00:07:06
Sabria
Oh, yeah.
00:07:06
gatherthempod
like Vertigo or, what's the other one, Birds? um And different movies like that. So we so that's how I would get, that's how I think I got into horror for me um was like passively through like my mom mainly.
00:07:14
Sabria
Mm hmm.
00:07:23
gatherthempod
Cause my mom was mostly the one that would watch like movies like that. Like Amityville Horror. Like she was like, she was scared at a movie, but she loved it.
00:07:28
Sabria
Oh,
00:07:31
Sabria
That's, oh, speaking of that. So I recently went on a work trip to, that's another thing, Pennsylvania is a creepy ass place.
00:07:40
gatherthempod
Creepy ass place.
00:07:42
Sabria
Pennsylvania is so creepy. And like, I have a book, um, because I love like oddities, like roadside attractions. So I have weird Pennsylvania book. And so I'm going to Redden um for a work trip.
00:07:58
Sabria
And while I'm like, in right, y'all, I have not been to Redden since I was a kid.
00:07:59
gatherthempod
Not ready.
00:08:03
gatherthempod
That is crazy.
00:08:03
Sabria
That shit look like, what did it look like, The Last of Us? I was like, oh my God, it is, whoa.
00:08:07
gatherthempod
Oh, shit.
00:08:12
gatherthempod
No, yeah, that's a good point. Because when I went to writing, because my uncle lives on writing, and the last time I've been to writing was when I was a kid.
00:08:18
Sabria
Yeah, but I feel like when you a Philly kid, your parents be like, we going to Rhett and like, it's like, they think it's like, you know, we getting out the city, we getting away.
00:08:24
gatherthempod
Right.
00:08:26
Sabria
But as an adult, I'm like, this looks like the last of us. This is crazy. Like, who, how do people make money up here?
00:08:30
gatherthempod
You know, right.
00:08:33
Sabria
But, cause my drive is a location up there, but I went, I was up there and I had, I had to take over from the train station. That's another story, but, um,
00:08:44
gatherthempod
Oh, my God.
00:08:45
Sabria
yeah Right?
00:08:45
gatherthempod
but Wait, they pulled up.
00:08:46
Sabria
But I got reimbursed, though.
00:08:47
gatherthempod
Oh, OK. I was about to say.
00:08:48
Sabria
So we in the car, and me and my overdriver, we was talking about Amityville horror. We passed by Amityville.
00:08:56
gatherthempod
Oh.
00:08:56
Sabria
And it just looks so creepy. I'm just like, yo, Pennsylvania is so creepy like when you think about it.
00:09:05
gatherthempod
It's a creepy estate. I didn't realize it was as creepy as it was until I got older.
00:09:09
Sabria
yeah Right?
00:09:10
gatherthempod
Yeah, because Philly is like not Pennsylvania.
00:09:14
Sabria
It's not, it's totally, it's a planet, like it's so different, it's so different.
00:09:15
gatherthempod
It is so different. um And that's what I was telling you I think earlier this week about what was it Pennhurst.
00:09:27
Sabria
Yes, asylum, the asylum, oh my God.
00:09:29
gatherthempod
Yes, child. I i can't. um But yes, nasty please.
00:09:35
Sabria
That's a nasty place.
Friendship and Emo Phase Memories
00:09:38
gatherthempod
And just learning about that guy too was just like horrific. And I think that that's always been the thing for me with horror and like, it's parallels to like the world though. It's like the fact that it's horrible, yes, but like people be doing some crazy shit in the real world. So I'd be like the stuff that'd be in horror movies be like, wow.
00:09:58
Sabria
Hello? For real though.
00:10:01
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:10:02
Sabria
Honestly.
00:10:03
gatherthempod
All right. So do you want to um talk a little bit about how we know each other? Cause we always talk about this online.
00:10:10
Sabria
Yes, yes, yes. Because it's so, I'm like, that is crazy. Like we've known each other since we were literal kids.
00:10:18
gatherthempod
literal kids.
00:10:19
Sabria
That is so crazy. We've been through like what, three decades?
00:10:23
gatherthempod
Yes, like that is nuts.
00:10:24
Sabria
That is nuts.
00:10:26
gatherthempod
Like you're probably the only friend that I maybe have like a really like I text regularly or like talk to regularly from middle school.
00:10:37
Sabria
Yeah, same.
00:10:40
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:10:40
Sabria
I recently got in touch with like some people, like I started talking to them more, but like I'm like, wow, since middle school.
00:10:44
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:10:47
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:10:47
Sabria
um And it's funny because I don't know, I've always been somebody that I'll talk to anybody, I've always been loud, or like if I see somebody quiet, or if I see somebody wearing something, I'm like, hmm, what's that?
00:11:01
Sabria
What's up? And I remember, this is when I was like, finding what emo and all that stuff was and I remember I think you had on like these wristbands it was like um they used to sell on my hot topic and they like made out of like c cloth and I don't know what was on it but I remember you had something like that on and I'm like hmm are you like I feel like we might have some stuff in common and then I saw like you like dressed a little emo but then you also like sierra and I'm like me too
00:11:07
gatherthempod
Oh my God.
00:11:17
gatherthempod
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yes.
00:11:35
gatherthempod
yeah yeah Yes.
00:11:36
Sabria
I remember you used to always be like, one, two, step. I used to always try to dance.
00:11:40
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:11:41
Sabria
And I thought that, that's, and it was funny because I was always loud. So like, I would be laughing at you doing that, but I would get in trouble because you was quiet. But I would be the one getting in trouble because I was like, screaming, laughing, because you would just randomly do it quietly.
00:11:52
gatherthempod
yeah
00:11:57
gatherthempod
I would just randomly be doing stuff, but that's how I am. Like, that's the funny thing about me. And I think that that's what people have started to maybe realize about me. And I've started to maybe even realize about myself as like, I'll say something like really off the wall or I'll do something really off the wall. And I would just be like,
00:12:14
gatherthempod
Why did I even do that? Or why did I say that? What does this person think about that? Because like that was crazy. That's so wild. But yeah, like I think too in middle school, it was hard for me I think because I was coming into like the terms of my sexuality and like trying to figure that out oh my god I had a crush on like the one music teacher I don't know if you remember him but he but the white guy that would like the tall guy miss I don't want to say his name when you're
00:12:35
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
00:12:47
Sabria
But yes, yes, I think I do remember him. Yes, yes, and me. I think you also had a crush on somebody who had an aide. I think somebody had an aide, and we both liked him.
00:12:55
gatherthempod
I, girl, I had, yes, I had a crush on him. I had, and I got him to sign my yearbook.
00:13:00
Sabria
Yes, and I was so jealous.
00:13:02
gatherthempod
Yes. I would. Yes. I wasn't fucking playing. I was like, Oh, we, we faded and never, never saw him again.
00:13:09
Sabria
Oh my God. Never.
00:13:12
gatherthempod
Never crazy.
00:13:13
Sabria
I've been thinking about him sometimes. We really liked him.
00:13:14
gatherthempod
Me too.
00:13:16
Sabria
Like, that is so crazy.
00:13:17
gatherthempod
We really did.
00:13:18
Sabria
Not us liking somebody's age.
00:13:20
gatherthempod
but And then the funny thing is I went off to doing TSS work after that. And then I'm just like, these kids like probably just be like, who the fuck is this person?
00:13:32
gatherthempod
Just in here. like just Because that's what we were like.
00:13:33
Sabria
yeah
00:13:35
gatherthempod
We were like, who is this person? We know that this person follows him, but we don't know what he did.
00:13:40
Sabria
Yeah, I really didn't know what he did. I just was like, he always here and I'm just like, okay.
00:13:43
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:13:45
Sabria
And I was like, he was like this tall white man with glasses.
00:13:48
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:13:49
Sabria
And I was just like, oh my God. Like, cause he, I thought, right?
00:13:52
gatherthempod
Oh, I hope he's doing okay.
00:13:54
Sabria
I thought he looked like a rock star because that's the type of white people that I saw like on TV.
00:13:56
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:13:59
Sabria
And I'm like, he in person, like, I'm like, oh my God. And I'm like, I know he probably was like, leave me the fuck alone.
00:14:06
gatherthempod
He's probably like, these black, these black and words like, get, get out of here. Um, but anyway, yeah, that was like a such, I was so interesting though, how I think that, and then we didn't go to like the same high school or anything like that, but I think,
00:14:21
gatherthempod
Social media was like really the thing that kept us close.
00:14:24
Sabria
yep that's so true because we both were like chronically online because we both like had my spaces and oh my god i remember um when pete wince nudes came out and like you sent them to me on aim and i was like oh my god what is this like what is a nude like i was just like what i was
00:14:26
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. Ironically online.
00:14:39
gatherthempod
Girl. Yes. See.
00:14:45
Sabria
I was just like, and also like, shout out to you, you asked me for consent, could you send them to me? And I was just like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, you can send them to me.
00:14:51
gatherthempod
Oh, yes, yes.
00:14:54
Sabria
And then you came out to me on an aim, like aim on MSN.
00:14:57
gatherthempod
Yes, yes.
00:14:58
Sabria
And after that, I was like, do not fucking play with him. I was like, yeah,
00:15:02
gatherthempod
Yeah, you was like, don't play with him. I was like, if it was if it was anybody in that school, it was you. You was the only one that was really like, don't play with him.
00:15:11
Sabria
yeah I was like, i don't.
00:15:12
gatherthempod
Yeah, and the girls would try it.
00:15:15
Sabria
Yeah, and I'm like, just don't do that.
00:15:16
gatherthempod
Yep.
00:15:17
Sabria
Don't. And then I went to high school and I started the GSA.
00:15:20
gatherthempod
Period. That's really like mother shit.
00:15:22
Sabria
Yeah.
00:15:24
gatherthempod
That really is.
00:15:25
Sabria
And it's
00:15:26
gatherthempod
I know
00:15:29
Sabria
funny because once I told my mom, I was like, I have a gay friend at school. My mom like, listen, don't let nobody play with him. My mom always been.
00:15:36
gatherthempod
that's right.
00:15:37
Sabria
My mom always meant about you. She like, don't.
00:15:39
gatherthempod
Yeah, she really don't play about me.
00:15:40
Sabria
She don't.
00:15:41
gatherthempod
She really don't. She'd be like, she'd be like, Jerome, OK?
00:15:45
Sabria
Yup, she really do.
00:15:46
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
00:15:46
Sabria
She don't play. She don't. She always be asked she' be like, yeah, don't. So that's what it starts at home. My mom told me, you like a gay friend, don't let nobody play with them.
00:15:54
gatherthempod
period Seriously, oh my god Three decades like it was like literally maybe 2000 to 2003 That's like 30.
00:15:57
Sabria
And like if once if people had parents like that, everything would be so much better.
00:16:04
Sabria
But yeah, that's crazy. Three decades.
00:16:09
Sabria
Yeah.
00:16:13
Sabria
yeah
00:16:15
gatherthempod
Oh my god stop or not. Oh my 20 almost at 30 20 something years
00:16:21
Sabria
yeah like 24 oh my god that is crazy that is so crazy middle school yeah that was wild but yeah middle school was it was very interesting for like black like emo kids like all we had was the internet honestly
00:16:26
gatherthempod
please. Yes, middle school.
00:16:38
gatherthempod
yeah Yeah, it's interesting. I think when I think about our age, period or like the millennials because we literally lived in a time where we had cassette tapes and we had the internet.
00:16:57
Sabria
Yeah.
00:16:57
gatherthempod
Like that's crazy. Like we had Walkmans. Like I remember having a Walkman.
00:17:01
Sabria
Yeah, me too. And then I had an iPad. I mean, an iPod. But like, I never thought, it's crazy because like, I thought, I was thinking about this like this week.
00:17:05
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:17:09
Sabria
I never like thought any of that was weird because like, I don't know if it's because I'm a millennial, but like, I always expect change.
00:17:15
gatherthempod
Right.
00:17:16
Sabria
So I always expect something to be upgraded
00:17:18
gatherthempod
Yes.
Technology and Generational Changes
00:17:19
Sabria
to be better.
00:17:19
Sabria
So it never scared me.
00:17:20
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:17:21
Sabria
I just was like, Oh, cool. Like, this is the next thing.
00:17:23
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:17:23
Sabria
This is the next thing.
00:17:25
gatherthempod
Right.
00:17:25
Sabria
It actually gets me mad when something doesn't change. Like, I'm just like, what? Why is this updated?
00:17:30
gatherthempod
And this is why I've been on this like AI kick lately, lately, because I've been like, and like starting to really try to understand crypto because I'm like, once some, once Chad GBT explained crypto to me, I wish also shut up, uh, Chad GBT, please sponsor me. Um, I'm like literally begging. I use y'all like every day. Um, but when I asked Chad GBT, break down crypto to me, like I'm a child and they were like, Oh, it's like video game money. And I was like,
00:18:01
Sabria
oh
00:18:01
gatherthempod
Oh, that kind of sort of makes sense. And then the way in which the market works when you start to really understand trends and like the ways in which it correlates to the news. So a lot of crypto people pay attention to the news and like what other people are talking about in crypto because That's how people um that's how they make their money and why Bitcoin and stuff like that does so well because of like the ways in which people is decentralized.
00:18:24
Sabria
Mm.
00:18:31
gatherthempod
So like the government and the government is trying to figure out a way to get involved in this. But like
00:18:35
Sabria
Always.
00:18:36
gatherthempod
Yeah, always. But it's like run by the people. It's about like security of um like there's different projects that people work on and stuff like that. And so that's basically what it is. It's like people um coming together to like invest in like these different things. And Bitcoin just so happens to be like one of the leaders right now.
00:18:58
gatherthempod
Um, and so I, like, when I've like gotten into, I'm like, I'm getting into my like real Aquarius, like innovative bag, I think with like trying to be like, okay, I'm accepting the future now.
00:18:58
Sabria
Oh wow.
00:19:10
gatherthempod
Like it's AI is here. Like we can make our lives easier. Things don't have to be the same way. And I feel like that's been like my battle with like. for example, working in the city is like, everything is so dated.
00:19:25
Sabria
Yeah.
00:19:25
gatherthempod
And it's like, come on, we gotta, we gotta push forward. Like I can't do this.
00:19:29
Sabria
yeah when stuff is just day i'm like calm on like
00:19:32
gatherthempod
Like we still have to put in slips for ah vacation, like paper slips for vacation. Yes. Girl. Yes.
00:19:40
Sabria
yeah i wouldn't make it i that i would not make it because at one time like working in retail um when the register was down i started being like oh let's close the store we had to do stuff like manually i like when i walk in i just have to like shut everything down i'm like i don't want to mess this up but that was so hard for me because i'm just so used to doing everything so digitally so like
00:19:57
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. and
00:20:04
Sabria
I do understand what you're saying because it's so funny because my dad was always like telling me about AI and stuff like that. And I'm like being like a boomer about it. I'm like, no, but aye you do need to learn stuff so you don't get left behind.
00:20:18
gatherthempod
yes
00:20:19
Sabria
It's very important that you always know, even if you don't agree with something or you don't use it, you always have to be in the know. um About it and just in case you have to use it or somebody wants to challenge you on something I feel like it's always important to have that education
00:20:35
gatherthempod
Of course, I think we're in a really interesting age of like learning right now. So I think that um some people are going to get it and some people won't. And that's going to be kind of say like 20 years.
00:20:47
Sabria
yeah Cause I was thinking about that today too. out I mean, yesterday I was like, will I, where there be a time where I just don't know how to use technology? Like when I get older, like will I be behind?
00:20:58
gatherthempod
I don't think so.
00:20:59
Sabria
I don't feel like that either. Like I don't.
00:21:01
gatherthempod
I don't think so.
00:21:02
Sabria
Like certain stuff with like TikTok. like the only reason why I don't know it is because I'm being lazy like I don't want to know it but I'm pretty sure I can figure it out if I just like hank her down or whatever but like I just always think I'm like is that over like how they like the because I work with seniors and they struggle to open a text message they'll say to me I don't know how to do that and I'm like if you just open up the text message you look like
00:21:08
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. Same.
00:21:22
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:21:28
Sabria
They're like, I don't know how to do that. Or they don't know their phone number.
00:21:31
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:21:31
Sabria
They don't know how to check for their phone number. And I'm like, will there be a time where I am like that?
00:21:33
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:21:36
Sabria
But like, I just think so.
00:21:38
gatherthempod
I think we, um I'm just going to say it, but I think we got in it a good time because being millennials, because I think we like just made the cut because there are some of us that are there are a little like stuck in our ways that don't that aren't progressive or that won't move forward.
00:21:43
Sabria
a year Yeah, yeah.
00:21:52
Sabria
Yeah.
00:21:55
gatherthempod
But I think that there are a lot of millennials that really want um and understand the ways in which technology is starting to evolve and the ways in which we want our society to change.
00:22:09
gatherthempod
Like we are tired of the five day work week. We want to work from home more. We want, like there's so many things. And I'm like, once these boomers are out of here, I hate to say it, but like, but it when it's over for y'all, it's like, that's it.
00:22:22
gatherthempod
Like we're, we're going to be living in the future.
00:22:22
Sabria
No, for real.
00:22:26
Sabria
No, for real, I I feel like that.
00:22:27
gatherthempod
And Yep. And we're just going to be able to know, like, we're going to be able to just have access. It'll be um and be able to keep up with the way things are changing. But.
00:22:37
Sabria
Yeah. Because like me, like I can look at something like once or like how to navigate something like if it's technology wise, I can look at it once and like know how to get back to it.
00:22:38
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:22:51
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:22:52
Sabria
And I feel like that is like a a gift.
00:22:55
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:22:55
Sabria
And like I was noticing like some people like even younger than me don't even know how to do that. And I feel like once you know how to do stuff like that, you will always be like ahead of the curve.
00:23:06
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. There's a whole, high side I mean, we're, you know, derailing, but like, there is a whole psychology behind why that is. And it's partly because of like, When you are learning things, you're creating new neural pathways in your brain.
00:23:21
gatherthempod
So your brain is always malleable to like learning new things, like to being to growing.
00:23:21
Sabria
h
00:23:27
gatherthempod
And that's what the brain wants.
00:23:27
Sabria
hu
00:23:28
gatherthempod
The brain wants to learn new things. It wants to grow. It does not want to stay the same. But I think a lot of times people get trauma happens. People get stuck in their ways. um That's what trauma essentially does.
00:23:40
gatherthempod
It stunts the brain in that way.
00:23:41
Sabria
Yeah, that's so true.
00:23:43
gatherthempod
So people can't, people aren't as open to learning or growing.
00:23:43
Sabria
That's so true.
00:23:48
gatherthempod
And so that's why I think for us now, I think, cause like we talk about this all the time, like when we're at the gym and like, you know, trying to work on our goals and like different things like that, like we are in a really good space of like being able to continue to grow our brains and expand and like stay healthy and like, you know, all of that good stuff.
00:24:08
Sabria
Mm hmm.
00:24:13
gatherthempod
So yeah, it's it's looking good.
00:24:13
Sabria
Yeah.
00:24:16
gatherthempod
I think it's, I think, you know, I feel optimistic about the future.
00:24:20
Sabria
I love that I need to hear that because like, sometimes I'd be like, I'm gonna die.
00:24:24
gatherthempod
No, no, I literally, I'd be feeling that way too, girl.
00:24:25
Sabria
But like, no, you need to hear it.
00:24:29
gatherthempod
I'd be like, but don't get it wrong.
00:24:29
Sabria
Yeah.
00:24:31
gatherthempod
Cause I would social work be killing me.
00:24:33
Sabria
Oh, oh, oh, I already, I already know.
00:24:33
gatherthempod
Oh my God. yeah
00:24:36
Sabria
Cause I've been working with the social workers at my job and I'll just be like, I don't know how y'all do this.
00:24:41
gatherthempod
I'd be like, don't talk to me for like literally, like when I come home, I'd be like, I gotta go to bed. Like yesterday I came home, I went to bed at like six and then I did not do anything until like nine o'clock. And I was like, all right, I'm good now.
00:24:54
Sabria
No, for real. That's really how it'd be. That's really how it'd be.
00:24:56
gatherthempod
Yes. All right, so let's just kind of jump on in. um Let's play a game um to start.
Vampire Game with Celebrities
00:25:05
gatherthempod
um So this game is called Turn or Feed.
00:25:10
gatherthempod
um And so I'm curious, and there's a bunch of different um people that I kind of picked, mainly women, but, um because I'm gonna add that question, I'm like, would you turn a man into a ah vampire?
00:25:23
Sabria
No.
00:25:24
gatherthempod
Okay. All right, we have a couple men on here and we'll, we will see, i'm I'm curious to what, so there's also another caveat to this game.
00:25:32
Sabria
Oh, I like this.
00:25:32
gatherthempod
So the other, so the twist is, so it's turn or feed, but would you turn them into a fellow vampire or would you feed on them for their talent, skills or energy?
00:25:46
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:25:46
Sabria
Okay, I like this.
00:25:47
gatherthempod
All right.
00:25:47
Sabria
Okay.
00:25:47
gatherthempod
So first one, Beyonce.
00:25:52
Sabria
um oh Oh, that's kind of hard. I probably would. a I probably would feed on her.
00:26:03
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:26:04
Sabria
I definitely would probably ah probably feed on her for her work ethic.
00:26:04
gatherthempod
so you Okay.
00:26:10
Sabria
um because i'm just like we got the same 24 hours how but i would definitely her her work ethic i would definitely that i don't even care about the like singing part but that work ethic that the energy i would feed on for that for sure without a doubt but i did i wouldn't want to turn her
00:26:16
gatherthempod
Okay. Okay.
00:26:29
Sabria
because I wouldn't want her to change. I won' want her to stay the same person that she is.
00:26:32
gatherthempod
okay
00:26:35
Sabria
And I feel like that would be too weird for her, especially like when her family and stuff, I feel like she's very family oriented person.
00:26:43
gatherthempod
o
00:26:44
Sabria
And I feel like that would just be like very like heartbreaking for her. So I would just be
00:26:48
gatherthempod
Okay. I would turn her, but I feel like I would just turn her just so that she would wall out. Like, I just want to see Beyonce.
00:27:01
gatherthempod
I kind of want to see it.
00:27:01
Sabria
No, you devious.
00:27:04
gatherthempod
I'm like, I kind of want to see a Virgo wall out.
00:27:06
Sabria
No, for real.
00:27:06
gatherthempod
Like, let's just see what it is.
00:27:08
Sabria
But there are pictures of her like sloppy drunk.
00:27:11
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:27:11
Sabria
But yeah, seeing her while out, that would be definitely interesting. But I just would not want to, when a Virgo was down emotionally, I wouldn't want to deal with it.
00:27:19
gatherthempod
But no, but then imagine like if Beyonce had the ability to glamour people and like you would, or like make you forget that you even came in contact with her.
00:27:25
Sabria
True.
00:27:29
Sabria
true I feel like she I feel like she can blame her people now honestly honestly
00:27:29
gatherthempod
That would be crazy.
00:27:33
gatherthempod
Listen, I think I can even write.
00:27:37
gatherthempod
All right, next person is Rihanna.
00:27:41
Sabria
or I probably would turn her because she would be a bad ass protege like I feel like she'd be a bad ass vampire especially like thinking about like her um the era um like good girl gone bad like she I feel like she definitely would be a bad ass vampire and she definitely would know how I feel like she would
00:27:46
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:27:55
gatherthempod
o
00:28:04
Sabria
like really honor the rules and i feel like she would make a um oh my god what is it called when they're like oh a hive like she but i feel like she would definitely be able like if i wasn't around she would definitely be able to run like to have like i feel like she would definitely be a great re-inviter
00:28:11
gatherthempod
Oh, yeah, like a half.
00:28:18
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. Yeah, she would definitely be like a good Uh, protege, I think for sure.
00:28:26
Sabria
who
00:28:28
gatherthempod
Yeah. I think I would probably do the same. I probably would turn Rihanna. Same. I think that she would, she seems like she has such a good like work ethic as well to where I feel like she could really built like a strong cause the Rihanna Navy is I'm like, if you can endure the fact that you have not had an album since the dinosaurs, like literally.
00:28:37
Sabria
Yes. Okay.
00:28:55
gatherthempod
Like, you can like hold onto the fact that you may never get another album out of this woman. Like, that's a strong, that's a strong protege.
00:29:02
Sabria
Hello?
00:29:05
gatherthempod
Like, if she could turn you.
00:29:07
Sabria
yes and i feel like she could she would make an empire because like how she is with like all this fenty stuff like i feel like she definitely wouldn't make a good like vampire empire so yeah think
00:29:11
gatherthempod
She would. Yes.
00:29:18
gatherthempod
Yes, for sure. um How about Maya Angelou? random yes gotta mix it up and okay
00:29:35
Sabria
I don't know. I feel like if I turn her, she might be a little strict. But I don't know. You know what? Fuck it. I'm gonna turn Maya Angelou. I'm gonna turn her.
00:29:45
gatherthempod
but she
00:29:45
Sabria
Because why not?
00:29:47
gatherthempod
Okay, I feel like I might feed off of her just so I can take her like some of the wisdom, inherit her wisdom. But maybe I would like, I don't know, like I feel like maybe I would like, I couldn't imagine like draining her.
00:29:54
Sabria
True. so
00:30:01
gatherthempod
Like that would be too much. Like that would be a little excessive. Like not my Angela.
00:30:08
gatherthempod
yes All right. All right. We're gonna bring it back. We're gonna bring it back.
00:30:12
gatherthempod
Megan Thee Stallion.
00:30:12
Sabria
ah right
00:30:13
Sabria
okay oh who that's hard I think I think she'd be a good vampire I a turner ah would would
00:30:16
gatherthempod
That's a hard one.
00:30:19
gatherthempod
Yeah. I think she could be a good vampire queen.
00:30:21
Sabria
she would and like she's so fit like i feel like she would be like super fast but i feel like she'd be a vampire that could fly like she would just be like oh yeah definitely turn her as she would be a great vampire and she would be fun like i feel like she would lighten up the look because i feel like being a vampire it can be very intense and i feel like she would just be like that comedic relief that like we will all need
00:30:24
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:30:40
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:30:49
gatherthempod
Right. Yeah, I think so, too. And I feel like she would be like, you like you said, she'd be really fun. Like, I feel like she would be like the kind of person or a vampire that would just like she probably would throw like really fun vampire parties.
00:30:54
Sabria
Mm hmm.
00:31:02
Sabria
Yes, she definitely would.
00:31:03
gatherthempod
Yeah. Yeah, she would.
00:31:05
Sabria
And I feel like she would be all she will always be able to find us people to feed on.
00:31:11
gatherthempod
She would. And I feel like.
00:31:11
Sabria
Like I feel like she could glamour people good because she charming.
00:31:14
gatherthempod
Yes. Yes.
00:31:16
Sabria
So I feel like, and she's like, she's charming. She's like very alluring. Like, and I feel like she could find us body, body, body, bodies.
00:31:26
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:31:26
Sabria
Okay.
00:31:27
gatherthempod
um A man, Marsha Ali.
00:31:32
Sabria
Ooh, he would be a fine vampire. I know I said I wouldn't turn nobody.
00:31:34
gatherthempod
You'd be fine. That's what I said. I was like, girl, I was like.
00:31:38
Sabria
Wait! Hold up, he would be so fine. Damn, I like had to turn him.
00:31:45
gatherthempod
I might have to turn him.
00:31:45
Sabria
Cause he, ooh, I feel like, and I feel like I would just be like, I would be like, let's start, I'm sorry, out on him. Like I would just be like crazy about him.
00:31:56
Sabria
Yeah, I've had to turn him. I'm sorry.
00:31:58
gatherthempod
Okay. Okay.
00:31:59
Sabria
Yeah, cause he fine.
00:32:00
gatherthempod
I will probably turn them too. And I, I agree.
00:32:01
Sabria
Yeah.
00:32:03
gatherthempod
I feel like it would just be like a whole interview with a vampire, like love situation. Like honestly, I, I don't know.
00:32:12
Sabria
Yeah.
00:32:14
gatherthempod
Malcolm X.
00:32:16
Sabria
I'm cricket.
00:32:17
gatherthempod
Yeah. We're going.
00:32:20
Sabria
Malcolm X, damn. I probably would feed off of him. I probably would feed off of him because like you said, my, and like the, ah him, like how he was able to, cause like me, I want to get better with like cursing people out without being like, you a dummy, like whatever.
00:32:36
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:32:37
Sabria
And I feel like he was like good at stuff like that. And like he was very knowledgeable. um Again, I feel like he definitely a work ethic. So I would definitely feed um off of him.
00:32:49
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:32:50
Sabria
to get that knowledge and I feel like he would be into it like I feel like he would I would feel like he would like to be just like cooped up in like the basement and just like fed off of like I feel like I don't know because like he would he he was ah um you know he used to be in them streets um he used to be in them streets so I feel like he would kind of like he'd be into it I feel off of him
00:32:54
gatherthempod
I think he would.
00:33:04
gatherthempod
I listen.
00:33:09
gatherthempod
He used to be in the streets. so
00:33:15
gatherthempod
I think he would, yeah. Cause I feel like too, he was like a very charismatic person as well.
00:33:19
Sabria
Mm-hmm Yep What's
00:33:20
gatherthempod
Like, and I feel like that's what leaders have to have. Like you have to have charisma because if you don't, like if you're not giving nothing, then like. you know, come on, what's the point?
00:33:30
Sabria
the point?
00:33:32
gatherthempod
um And so I think that's how a lot of the way he was able to kind of garner some of that, the influence and like really being like no bullshit about like black people.
00:33:38
Sabria
Mm-hmm
00:33:42
gatherthempod
And so I feel like I would feed off of him for that. I feel like I already, I'm trying to do that now, but I feel like if I fed off of him, it would like give me that extra bump, you know?
00:33:52
Sabria
yeah yep yep he definitely would be somebody good to feed over every.
00:33:56
gatherthempod
Right. Doja Cat.
00:34:00
Sabria
You know what this is kind of a hard one, but I probably would. you for her I feel like as a vampire, she would get us in too much trouble.
00:34:11
gatherthempod
I think so too.
00:34:11
Sabria
I feel like she would blow up our spot. She would be like trying to walk out in the daytime.
00:34:17
gatherthempod
Ciao.
00:34:19
Sabria
she Or she would probably stay at somebody's house. too late. um And then she would have to have to leave and it'd be daytime or something. It'd be so I just feel like she would just get like, she definitely would get me as a maker in too much trouble.
00:34:35
Sabria
She will probably be like how Claudia was when she first was turned. I feel like she would be like that.
00:34:39
gatherthempod
Yeah. I think you're right. I think you are right. I feel like too, like she's a very creative person. So I feel like I probably feed off of her for creativity.
00:34:48
Sabria
Yes.
00:34:51
Sabria
yes
00:34:51
gatherthempod
um I feel like Doja Cat would be, I don't know. I feel like, I hate to say it, but it's something about when people be dating too many, you know, white people and not enough black people where I just be like, I don't know, you know?
00:35:04
Sabria
yeah
00:35:07
Sabria
ah Yeah, it's something. And you know, you watch the book, we do in the shadows, right?
00:35:11
gatherthempod
Yep.
00:35:12
Sabria
So I feel like she would be like a Guillermo.
00:35:12
gatherthempod
Oh my God. that Yes.
00:35:15
Sabria
Like I feel like she would want to be a vampire so bad and rural, real bad.
00:35:19
gatherthempod
A little bit.
00:35:20
Sabria
And we just like, it's just something like you can't, we can't tell you.
00:35:24
gatherthempod
We can't turn you. I'm sorry.
00:35:25
Sabria
Because you just be will be wild. And the thing is, she would be a very sexy vampire, very stylish vampire.
00:35:30
gatherthempod
She would.
00:35:31
Sabria
She'd be a great vampire. But I just feel like she would just want it too bad.
00:35:34
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:35:37
Sabria
And she just don't have, like I feel like she would just get be talking and then getting blown up to the spot.
00:35:37
gatherthempod
yeah
00:35:43
gatherthempod
Yup, I agree. I feel like it would be it will be way too much.
00:35:46
Sabria
You know, too much.
00:35:47
gatherthempod
um Let's do two more. um I'm screaming because I want to do another twist. All right, I'll do the twist one at the end.
00:35:58
Sabria
Okay.
00:35:59
gatherthempod
I'll do the twist at the end.
00:35:59
Sabria
I'm scared.
00:36:01
gatherthempod
All right, Serena Williams.
00:36:04
Sabria
Oh, damn. Serena Williams. Oh, okay. i feel like okay so she again she's super fit super thick body tea i feel like her blood would taste crazy i would feed off for her but i feel like she would i don't know i just feel like it would just be something different i would feed off for her for sure yeah i would feed off for her because i feel like
00:36:15
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm. Body T. Yes. Yeah. I think I would too.
00:36:32
Sabria
um i don't know as a vampire i feel like she would just get bored like because she's used to being an active person and i feel like you know you can't play tennis at night i mean you can but i feel like she just would be i feel like she would be one of those vampires that like okay she would sit there and be like hmm deal with it and then next thing you know she walking out in the sunlight and you like you're like something like she's like i can't do this so i
00:36:36
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:36:59
gatherthempod
Oh yeah. That's a good point.
00:37:02
Sabria
I feel like she just wouldn't be happy as a vampire. Yeah, she wouldn't be happy.
00:37:07
gatherthempod
That's a good point because i I hadn't thought about that too. And also to the idea of like, would you want to be like a daywalker? If you're a vampire.
00:37:15
Sabria
would i when you know i might flirt with the idea of being a daywalker because i feel like i'm like sometimes i'll be nosy but like i just i would flirt with the idea of being a daywalker but honestly even though i like wake up in the morning generally i am more of a i feel more alive like when it's nighttime but i that all the activities i like to do are daytime activities
00:37:44
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:37:44
Sabria
So I probably will flirt with the idea of being a daywalker for sure.
00:37:49
gatherthempod
Okay. um I think that for me, I probably would also flirt with it. I love the nighttime. I hate, I feel actually, it's so crazy. I feel more drained during the day than I do at night.
00:38:00
Sabria
Same.
00:38:01
gatherthempod
It's something, I think that's the creativeness in us is like that we are more active at night.
00:38:02
Sabria
Yeah.
00:38:06
Sabria
Yeah.
00:38:07
gatherthempod
Um, but the daytime tends to really drain me. Um, and then it's usually the early morning is when I'm fine, but it's like midday. When I start to feel like, Oh my God, I'd be like, just, just, yeah, just throw it away.
00:38:16
Sabria
I hate mid day. Like three o'clock. Oh my God. I hate that time. I hate you three. like
00:38:23
gatherthempod
Like for real. All right. Last one. The crazy one. Harriet Tubman.
Historical Figures as Vampires
00:38:37
Sabria
Whoo!
00:38:37
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:38:38
Sabria
Oh my God. I don't, okay, this is a hard one. I think honestly, I would turn her because I feel like being on a vampire would make her more aggressive. We probably wouldn't have been freed faster.
00:38:49
gatherthempod
Oh my God. We probably, we, she would have ran through the entire United States.
00:38:55
Sabria
No, for real. Like, I feel like as a vampire, she'd probably be ruthless. I would turn her for sure.
00:38:59
gatherthempod
Yeah, I would have turned her.
00:39:01
Sabria
Yeah.
00:39:02
gatherthempod
She would have been going crazy.
00:39:07
Sabria
Yeah, I feel like it didn't hurt with the strength the stuff she would have did I feel like slave matches You've been breaking a next like when her bare hands like yes, turn her Harriet Tubman Yeah, man, she'd be a crazy vampire.
00:39:14
gatherthempod
yeah Yup.
00:39:18
gatherthempod
Turn here. It's up, man. Period. Yes.
00:39:23
Sabria
Let's go
00:39:24
gatherthempod
No, I should literally like, what if I call that the time? What if I named that the title? Turn here. It's something that'd be crazy. um my Oh my God.
00:39:32
Sabria
Oh my god.
00:39:37
Sabria
Oh yeah, I know.
00:39:38
gatherthempod
God. You would be like, what the fuck is? one more Um,
00:39:41
Sabria
What is that fucking about?
00:39:43
gatherthempod
Oh my God, that was so much fun though. um All right, what's your i guess what would you say are like some of your favorite horror movies?
00:39:45
Sabria
That was fun.
00:39:53
Sabria
um me I love the 80s to like the early 2000s like that is like my favorite era of horror um mainly the 80s like I love seeing the progression of special effects because that's like one of the reasons why I really love horror so much is because of the special effects makeup like seeing like the first time I saw
00:39:59
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:40:19
Sabria
um the makeup for American werewolf in Paris, I could not believe that. And then as I get older, and like, because when I saw it, I, I couldn't grasp, like, the fact that the 80s, they didn't have the stuff that we had, like, in the early 2000s.
00:40:36
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:40:37
Sabria
So I didn't realize until like, I got older down, like, that was amazing work for the 80s. Like, watching that as a child of like the early 2000s, I like could not understand it like they really was like, were like they was just working with what they had scraps, like for real.
00:40:58
Sabria
And the fact that the makeup was so like, it still holds up to this day, if you watch that movie, because I've watched it recently.
00:40:59
gatherthempod
Right.
00:41:03
gatherthempod
right
00:41:06
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:41:06
Sabria
um So yeah, the 80s, one of my favorite horror movies is um Evil Dead.
00:41:12
gatherthempod
Yes, yes.
00:41:14
Sabria
I love the Evil Dead. I've watched the show, I've watched all the movies, I've met Bruce Campbell, I've read the comic books, um I haven't played the game yet, but I love um that movie um because of the makeup um and it's like one of the not only but like I'm not really a big fan of like possession movies but I really love that one um because it's just so scary like the zombies are well the deadites are just like so terrifying
00:41:49
Sabria
um Also another um movie from the 80s that I really like um is Return of the Living Dead. Like that was my comfort movie.
00:41:56
gatherthempod
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
00:41:57
Sabria
Like I would watch that like going to sleep again for the special effects just for like the goofiness.
00:41:58
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:42:03
Sabria
I think a lot of horror movies that I do like have an element of like silliness and like horror.
00:42:09
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:42:11
Sabria
So I really love that a fan of that. And I um also like slasher movies as well.
00:42:17
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:42:18
Sabria
which was big in the early 2000s.
00:42:18
gatherthempod
I love a good slasher. I love a good slasher. Oh my God. What are some early 2000 slashers that you like?
00:42:25
Sabria
um Early 2000 slashers that I like. Is it considered a slasher? No, it is, I think. So I saw the 2003.
00:42:40
Sabria
um ah Texas Chainsaw Massacre first.
00:42:45
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:42:45
Sabria
um And I was just like obsessed with just how fast and scary that movie was. And like, I've talked about this before, but like, on my space, I had the jiff of there's a pregnant woman in the back of the car and she like just shoots herself in the head and her head goes back and the camera it like goes back and it and it just shows it shows the the camera goes through like the hole in her head and then it shows everybody in the car looking at the reaction and when I was a kid I was obsessed with that.
00:43:05
gatherthempod
Oh. Yes. The whole.
00:43:21
Sabria
so there I had that GIF on my Myspace before I even saw the movie.
00:43:25
gatherthempod
That is crazy.
00:43:25
Sabria
um and that was so crazy because that was like one of the first times i saw in a horror movie where i'm like that's shit i would do i'm not living through this you're crazy like i'm not living through this this man is trying to kill us like and nobody has a plan i'm killing myself so that's whatever like
00:43:29
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:43:38
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:43:40
gatherthempod
Yeah, that's it. That's it. I'm out, especially with Leatherface. I'm out.
00:43:45
Sabria
Especially with life, are you kidding me?
00:43:46
gatherthempod
I'm out.
00:43:47
Sabria
And got a child and there's no doctors out here.
00:43:50
gatherthempod
Yup.
00:43:50
Sabria
I'm sorry, we I'm done.
00:43:51
gatherthempod
I'm sorry. That's it.
00:43:52
Sabria
So I was like, that is too, that's so real.
00:43:53
gatherthempod
Yup.
00:43:56
Sabria
But I was just obsessed with that because I'm just like, the camera going through the bullets, they showing like the brain matter.
00:44:01
gatherthempod
Right.
00:44:02
Sabria
And then they're just like showing everybody's reaction, like freaking out. So that's just like one of my favorite early 2000s last year. And also obviously screen.
00:44:13
Sabria
um the or well that's not really 2000s that's like um late nineteen late 90s
00:44:13
gatherthempod
Yes.
00:44:17
gatherthempod
Late nineties, but then they went into the early two thousands.
00:44:20
Sabria
They did, but I really like the um the first two.
00:44:24
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:44:25
Sabria
But I'm just like, again, Wes Craven's a genius. Literally, he revived the slasher genre and just made it like so cool.
00:44:35
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:44:40
Sabria
um Also, what's another slasher? It's not really...
00:44:44
gatherthempod
Oh, um, okay.
00:44:44
Sabria
Well, This is the first slasher movie, um Black Christmas.
00:44:47
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:44:50
Sabria
um And it is like, it's actually like the original one is like really like scary because you're in like ah s school is somewhere you're supposed to be safe.
00:44:50
gatherthempod
Well, I've not seen that one.
00:44:55
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:45:04
Sabria
and there's a killer at the school in the sorority and it's just like what this is scary as hell so i just love that that's the um i've i've watched that in the um i think it was a 2006 remake i think it's 2006 i'm not sure but yeah i really um i like those i'll literally
00:45:13
gatherthempod
Who is in that?
00:45:25
gatherthempod
Who was in that? Who was in Black Christmas? Wasn't that, um what was her name? She was in, oh my God, when a stranger calls the remake, Katie Cassidy.
00:45:34
Sabria
Yes! Yes, yes, yes, she was. I remember her because she's really pretty.
00:45:39
gatherthempod
Yeah, she's, oh my gosh, she was in Arrow too. She's like so fucking pretty. um I was gonna say my favorite slasher. I think the one, I think one that we talked about like a while ago was house of a thousand corpses and devil's rejects wild.
00:45:52
Sabria
yes oh my god how did i forget yes that's it i love house of a thousand courses i remember when i first watched it i was sneaking watching it with one of my friends and i was just so scared i was terrified i was so freaking scared i'm like i shouldn't watch that movie like the build up to see dr satan and then when you finally see him and he's scarier than you can only eat like can you can ever imagine i just was like
00:46:21
gatherthempod
Right.
00:46:23
Sabria
Oh my god. But yes, House of the Thousand Courts says that is definitely a good slasher movie, I feel like.
00:46:29
gatherthempod
That is a good one. I watched it and I was I watched it a lot of these movies like later in life, more because like I said, I was kind of passively watching when I was younger. And then when I started watching them later in life, I was like, oh, shit, this is actually kind of this is good. But I'm like, OK, I'm a little scared because like they literally were in the light and House of 1000 Courses like kind of in the middle of nowhere.
00:46:53
gatherthempod
And then they just go up to this house and there's all these weirdos in this house.
00:46:53
Sabria
Yes.
00:46:56
Sabria
Oh, and that's Pennsylvania. That is how Pennsylvania, that's, that's how, that's how I picture, that's how I picture like the, like rural areas of Pennsylvania.
00:46:58
gatherthempod
Pennsylvania is so scary.
00:47:06
Sabria
And I think that's probably why it scared me too.
00:47:07
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:47:10
Sabria
Cause I'm just like, okay, being from Pennsylvania, like I see rural areas and like one of my biggest fears, like being in a car at breakdown, we gotta ah like stay with some freaks.
00:47:21
gatherthempod
Not in Pennsylvania, please.
00:47:23
Sabria
please yeah
00:47:24
gatherthempod
I'm begging. Like I'm like, I'm so serious. I'm begging. Like I used to be, Oh my God. I remember cause that reminds me when I used to go up to Penn state and I was on a mega bus one time and this was like my freshman year.
00:47:36
gatherthempod
I was coming back at the end of the year and that joint broke down and we was just outside in the middle of nowhere all night. Like literally it broke down at like 12 and we didn't get back on the road until like five.
00:47:44
Sabria
yeah no.
00:47:49
Sabria
Oh, my God that is scary as hell.
00:47:49
gatherthempod
It was some of the scariest shit. I was like, I was on the bus like, I'm so sleepy, but I don't wanna go to sleep.
00:47:58
Sabria
Yeah, they could've never made me go to Penn State. Once they told me that it was that, how far it was, I was like, yeah, I'm going to school in the city, I can't.
00:48:05
gatherthempod
Yeah, it it was a lot, but I feel like once you stayed on the main roads, it was fine. But when you, I could see how, like, once you start veering off or, um, like I would start, like I i don't know, eventually, like when when i when I got older, I would go to places like Scranton or whatever.
00:48:21
gatherthempod
And I would be like, yeah, I don't know if I could do it out here. It's just, it's not, this isn't it.
00:48:26
Sabria
it's too many opportunities to while out. And like that's why a lot of slasher movies are like in places like that.
00:48:28
gatherthempod
It's too much.
00:48:33
Sabria
And it's funny because with Texas Chainsaw Massacre, um but get my family, very quirky family. We watched it as a family, the 1970s one, because I had seen it, but like I don't think I was paying attention because, of course, I watched the remake because that came out like when I was like so No, I wasn't of age, but it came out when I was alert.
00:48:55
gatherthempod
Yeah, right.
00:48:55
Sabria
But ah but we watched it as a family and like my dad was like, this movie scared me so much when it came out because it's just like, you in the middle of nowhere.
00:49:05
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:49:06
Sabria
Middle of nowhere, this man's strong as fuck.
00:49:08
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:49:08
Sabria
And just grabbing up anybody and then just like, nobody can help.
00:49:12
gatherthempod
And he he was big like it wasn't and running fast as shit.
00:49:13
Sabria
like He was a big, yes!
00:49:19
gatherthempod
Like i that's the thing that was so scary because I remember watching it when I got old. This was another one I watched when I got older. I was just like, okay, this is actually scary as shit because you were in the middle of nowhere. This man is big as fuck in this creepy ass house. And you, you know, the girl was at the front door or whatever. And, or no, it was like, she was like trying to peek in like whatever it was. And then the way she like tried to run out the house and he just grabbed her back in.
00:49:45
Sabria
I always think about that. And also, everybody in the house was like insane.
00:49:51
gatherthempod
Everybody was insane.
00:49:51
Sabria
So it's like, nobody you couldn't you couldn't like look for somebody to help like help me like help.
00:49:56
gatherthempod
Right.
00:49:56
Sabria
They're all like they all on the same team.
00:49:59
gatherthempod
They all won the same team.
00:49:59
Sabria
So like that was definitely so, so scary. And I feel like I mean, I haven't watched this 2003 one like in a while, but like just when I saw it, I just was like, that was very, very scary. Do you consider the song movies to be slasher?
00:50:13
Sabria
No, those are slasher movies. That's more like torture stuff, right?
00:50:17
gatherthempod
I kind of feel like I don't know because then that kind of starts to get into the question of like, where do you, where like you, does Gore count as like part of Slasher or.
00:50:28
Sabria
I feel like it might be just a gore because I feel like a slasher movie is like somebody is chasing after you and they want you going like Friday the 13th.
00:50:34
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:50:37
gatherthempod
Oh, it's a, um, in a way it's kinda sorta like a psychological thriller ish because of how he like, you know, you have to do all that stuff under pressure and under time.
00:50:43
Sabria
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:50:46
Sabria
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:48
gatherthempod
That's crazy. Salt is insane. When he was going to rip that girl head open, I was like, get me out of here.
00:50:55
Sabria
And ah it's great because I've watched every movie multiple times. And I've watched them with my mom. But like I've watched every movie. I went to the movie theaters to see one movie.
00:51:07
Sabria
um And because the rest of them came out when I wasn't legally allowed to go to the movies to see them. But I went to the movie to see, I think it was Saw X.
00:51:17
gatherthempod
I saw that one too, yes.
00:51:18
Sabria
Yeah, I went to the movie theaters to see that, off of Edible.
00:51:21
gatherthempod
I saw that in 4D, yeah, 4DX.
00:51:24
Sabria
um I wish I did but I was on edible so it was 40x for me.
00:51:27
gatherthempod
That drone was, oh no, that drone would have been too.
00:51:30
Sabria
I was so scared when I tell you I thought jigsaw was on the back of my neck.
00:51:31
gatherthempod
if
00:51:34
Sabria
I was so scared. I was so scared.
00:51:36
gatherthempod
No, I was screaming.
00:51:38
Sabria
But yeah, so that's another series that I do like, like, I feel like as I get older, I'm starting to like appreciate slasher movies more. um because like it was like a few years ago i had um watched all the um halloween's um because i had only watched the rob zombie ones and like the first halloween so i had watched all the halloween's and i'm like oh yeah i did see the second one yeah but
00:51:58
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. But you never saw the second one. Okay, okay, because that's like the continuation.
00:52:07
Sabria
But when I was like, yeah I guess when I was younger, I was like, I wasn't I was like, okay, Michael Myers is like, whatever.
00:52:10
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:52:14
Sabria
um But I wasn't really into Halloween. But it's funny, because my favorite Halloween is three. And that's the one where he's not in it.
00:52:21
gatherthempod
I love three. Right.
00:52:24
Sabria
But yeah, so I think as I get older, like I'm starting to appreciate slasher films more.
00:52:30
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. No, for sure. I love I think I've always loved slashers because I was going to ask you like what your favorite themes are like in horror because you said you know the in terms of paranormal horror or you're not like as like tapped in or like in love with that one.
00:52:48
Sabria
Yeah, I'm not I feel like my favorite themes are like, I love stuff with technology.
00:52:54
gatherthempod
Yeah.
00:52:54
Sabria
Um, I like, um, monsters, um, a big fan because it's ah always heavy on the special effects.
00:53:00
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
00:53:05
Sabria
Um, also like, ah this is something that really scared me when it's like, an entity that like, everybody can't see, like, for instance, it follows that really scared me because
00:53:19
gatherthempod
Oh yeah, that's on my watch list.
00:53:21
Sabria
it was it's really scary to me because it's it's an entity um and what else um like the movie a lot of people didn't like the movie smile but i liked it personally and to me stuff like that is very scary when something is like inside of your mind and you're just like nobody else can see it like that is so scary because it's like no again
00:53:22
gatherthempod
OK.
00:53:26
gatherthempod
Okay. I liked it. Mm hmm.
00:53:45
Sabria
I feel like for me, the scariest thing to heart is when there's like no element of like nobody can help you.
00:53:51
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
00:53:53
Sabria
Like it's nobody there's no plan. Nobody can help you like how am I going to get out of this?
00:53:59
gatherthempod
Yes. I love smile. I think as I talked about it ah on a podcast before, but like about um like the different like psychological stuff. Cause that's what ah really kind of was the basis or what it was kind of based on was that like the they were in like the psych hospital or whatever at some point or you know whatever. But um I talked a little bit about that, but I love movies where you always like,
00:54:26
gatherthempod
you're like, OK, so how are they going to win? Because there's no way out.
00:54:29
Sabria
Yes, yes.
00:54:30
gatherthempod
Because this is literally like at the end of it, like she dies. And it's like, OK, the entity pass on passes on. But like, OK, so you want to be OK? Like, what's going to happen next?
00:54:39
Sabria
Yeah, ah and it's scary cuz it's like how like who's gonna get past to like how can I avoid it like why like it's just it's so like stuff like that is very very scary to me.
00:54:52
gatherthempod
Very scary.
00:54:53
Sabria
And stuff like um another thing that's scary to me when people are like trapped somewhere, like for instance, like mid-summer was scary to me because there's no where it's like, again, like where, how can we get back to civilization?
00:54:53
gatherthempod
ah
00:55:00
gatherthempod
Yes. Oh, yes.
00:55:09
Sabria
How can we get back home? Like you're trapped and everybody's in on it. So I feel like, I feel like when horror feels like suffocating, that's when it like really gets me.
00:55:17
gatherthempod
Yeah. And you're right about that one because I just rewatched that one with my brother. He fell asleep on it. But because it really was like I said, this is the second time I watch it. And I'm like, I kind of feel trapped because I'm like, I'm still watching it. Like I want to finish this movie, of course. But like the plot is so it builds up so slow and the way in which it like gets worser and worser and you start to feel worser and worser as you watch it. You're just like, girl, like I got it. Like, come on, we got a
00:55:49
gatherthempod
Like I feel bad. And then by the end you feel like, damn, like this is crazy. Like this is wild.
00:55:54
Sabria
It makes you feel like sick as yourself.
00:55:56
gatherthempod
It makes you feel sick.
00:55:57
Sabria
And I'm like, to I know it feels crazy to say that, but like when I watch a horror movie and it makes me feel that like feeling like, oh my God. I'm like, they did their job. Like they did a good job when I feel like that.
00:56:06
gatherthempod
They did their job.
00:56:08
Sabria
Like, cause I, I felt like a little bit of that when I saw the first time I saw it get out.
00:56:15
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:56:15
Sabria
um I was like, mind you,
00:56:15
gatherthempod
Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:18
Sabria
I have no roommate to live with my family. Everybody's black. Why am I scared in my own house?
00:56:25
Sabria
I came home, it was nobody home. And I just was like looking around and I'm just like scared. I'm like, why am I scared? There's literally no white people in my house.
00:56:36
Sabria
like why I was like just so terrified.
00:56:36
gatherthempod
literally
00:56:39
gatherthempod
Literally Yeah, I think
00:56:40
Sabria
And I'm like, I hadn't felt that feeling it in a while. And I'm just like, when something makes you feel like unsettled, that sick feeling, I'm just like, okay, they definitely did their their job.
00:56:49
gatherthempod
they did their job. Cause I think, yeah, after that, I was scared of white people for a while. Like I was like, I mean, I still am, but like, you know, I really was like, all right now this is, this is wild.
00:57:01
gatherthempod
This is a wild one. Um, Jordan Pill ate that.
00:57:03
Sabria
Yeah, I was just, he did. Cause I was just like, uh, I felt just like so uncomfortable. And I feel like that's like, it's, it's, I feel like now, like it's not hard, but like, I feel like where the people, uh, horror, like filmmakers are like kind of drifting away from like giving people those unsettling feelings and like things to like think about after they watch it.
00:57:28
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Why do you think that is?
00:57:33
Sabria
I feel like in money, honestly, capitalism, because like a lot of people, um, uh, I feel like it's a very niche thing when people like stuff that make them feel like, uh, uneasy.
00:57:35
gatherthempod
Okay, yeah
00:57:48
Sabria
And also it's probably like harder to market it. Um, definitely have to be indie because um like Midsummer is a A24 movie and it's indie but people are being more into like are getting more into A24 movie so I feel like they have that um because like I just watched the I saw the TV glow um I just watched that movie which is A24 movie I feel like you would definitely like that um especially I
00:57:58
gatherthempod
Very.
00:58:08
gatherthempod
Hmm. Okay.
00:58:17
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:58:19
Sabria
Would look up first what the movie is about and then look it I know usually you don't do stuff like that But i I would do that because the movie is about like gender identity
00:58:27
gatherthempod
Okay.
00:58:31
Sabria
um and being queer um and then when you think about that and you watch the movie like i was like fucked up like for two days after watching that movie i was just like so like whoa like this kind of made me sad it made me like really i really was like thinking about it um but yeah i feel like it's like not marketable when um people and people just are not creep like creative that is i feel like it really boils down to that too like people are just like
00:58:31
gatherthempod
Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, shit.
00:58:50
gatherthempod
Okay. Yeah.
00:58:59
Sabria
not getting creative because like I love horror is like one of my favorite genres but like a lot of stuff is like a remake because people don't want to that's why I get so excited when I see something original because a lot of things are being remade because it's just like oh like what I'm like like we were talking about AI earlier I'm like that is such that is actually like the perfect tool for horror
00:59:06
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
00:59:23
gatherthempod
Literally, it is. And it's right there. Like that is like it's literally right there. Like that's the I think the it's it's a little almost like unsettling or like omnious or whatever, when you start to think about it in the sense of like, yeah, like AI is, it it has this potential to be like this amazing ally or like this really crazy threat.
00:59:49
gatherthempod
And it's like, if a horror movie came out that was just like that or just, you know, kind of showing the ways in which AI like shifts or the way in which it can be manipulated.
00:59:49
Sabria
Yeah.
01:00:02
gatherthempod
Cause I think that's like a lot of what Some of the fears around AI is that like, or why people have fear of AI is of it taking over. But I think we're at a time right now where we have like such a handle on it that we really should be ah trying to understand it for good.
01:00:20
Sabria
Yeah.
01:00:21
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:00:21
Sabria
Yeah. So I feel like people just need to like, you know, tap into like, what's really fucking scary.
01:00:27
gatherthempod
I was going to ask you to like, um, cause Terrifier three comes out as well. Are you looking forward to that?
01:00:34
Sabria
I, I am. And it's funny that you say that because like, I have like a mutual that was like, um, they said, they were like, who watches these films? Like, it's gotta to be like a money laundering screen. And I'm like, um, I've watched all of them.
01:00:48
gatherthempod
I've seen all Hallows' Eve or whatever it was, so.
01:00:50
Sabria
Me too, I've been there since the beginning. So again, I love clowns.
01:00:53
gatherthempod
Don't begin it, so.
01:00:57
Sabria
That's another thing.
01:00:57
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:00:58
Sabria
I love clowns, they don't scare me. um And I love a scary clown.
01:01:01
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:01:02
Sabria
And the special effects in the terrified movies are ah phenomenal. um and it's just like i know like i'm like probably will sound like a hypocrite because i just was like people are getting lazy and i but also like the terrifier is kind of like not really marketable like if you really know what the movie is about seeing it's really not marketable
01:01:20
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:01:23
gatherthempod
It's not really marketable at all.
01:01:23
Sabria
at all. Like it's literally just mindless. I will say the last Terrifier was a little goofy. And like I know that's like I feel like it's not, it's like weird to say because the movie is goofy in itself. But I feel like it just was a lot of elements going on.
01:01:43
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:01:43
Sabria
um in the last one where I just was like uh huh because I feel like the um the first one had like a solid plot a solid story it like it made sense but then I feel like the second one was like kinda like uh like it was like very like hokey um so I'm yeah
01:01:48
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:01:53
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
01:02:04
gatherthempod
That's why I'm a little scared about the third one, because I feel like and then it's like the first one, I don't know, I feel like when I watch all the movies, I'm expecting something different. And so to know that this third one is going to be kind of a continuation of the second one, because it's following ah the same, I forget her name, main character.
01:02:22
gatherthempod
Um, the one that had the angel wings on, um, since I know it's going to like kind of sort of follow her, I'm like, okay.
01:02:25
Sabria
Yeah.
01:02:29
gatherthempod
Like, so they're kind of aiming her being like, she's like the final girl or becoming the final girl. It feels like it's like this indie movie that is starting to like evolve into its, its own thing.
01:02:41
gatherthempod
Or like there's different manifestations of the terrifier in a way.
01:02:46
Sabria
yeah
01:02:47
gatherthempod
Cause it's not the same as when you think of like all hollows, even cause you're like, what the fuck is this?
01:02:51
Sabria
yeah it's so different because like I remember when the Terrifier first came out and I'm like I know that clown because I'm like I saw out All Hallows Eve and I'm just like huh like it's just definitely different now
01:02:53
gatherthempod
It is so different.
01:03:02
gatherthempod
What's the, what's the other one? It's called like the something circle seven circle or something. Cause there's like, I don't think I saw that one.
01:03:09
Sabria
that one I don't know if I saw Let me, where's my phone? But yeah, it's very, it's like we've kind of lost the plot. And I'm like, having a ah killer clown, like that's a new killer clown that's not Pennywise.
01:03:23
Sabria
I'm like, that's like such a great, like, you know, there's so many things to do with that.
01:03:25
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:03:28
Sabria
But I'm just like, yeah, the last one was like, what once movies start getting into like that dream element and like bringing people back and, oh, I'm dead.
01:03:38
Sabria
No, I'm not. So I'm just like, Come
01:03:41
gatherthempod
like, nevermind.
01:03:44
gatherthempod
Yeah. Right. Yeah, it's too much. It becomes too much. Yeah, I think I agree. And I feel like with that scene, the I think the scene was like interesting, um, as terrified her too with the, where you put like the salt in her wounds and like, or I forget if he like cut her up and it was just like, it was a lot.
01:03:59
Sabria
on!
01:04:02
gatherthempod
It was a lot.
01:04:07
gatherthempod
Yeah. And the room or it kept going on.
01:04:09
Sabria
What y'all doing? long. And I'm like, there's a lot. I could take a lot. But I'm like, this is definitely going on for like, it was a it was a lot.
01:04:18
gatherthempod
this yeah I was like, this is a lot. So, um okay, um let's see, let's let's jump into some ah other things.
01:04:29
gatherthempod
So we're gonna move into a segment that i um I used to call the Media Lab, but I'm renaming it to My Media Corner. And we are gonna talk about Interview with the Vampire, um the TV show.
01:04:40
Sabria
yeah
01:04:41
gatherthempod
And we're gonna get into all of the tea and all of the,
01:04:42
Sabria
yeah
01:04:46
gatherthempod
what we thought of the show, like what we, you know, maybe what we liked, but we didn't like um talking about some of the ways in which it maybe differs from the movie.
01:04:57
gatherthempod
And just like, you know, oh that just kind of free for all. We're just gonna go in.
01:05:03
Sabria
Yes. Yes, I'm excited.
01:05:05
gatherthempod
What did you think of the show?
01:05:05
Sabria
ah I did not know that I was gonna be obsessed with it like that. I knew I had a feeling I was gonna like it, but I didn't know that I was gonna be like like somebody that like searched for fan cams on Twitter, X, whatever you wanna call it.
01:05:13
gatherthempod
Same.
01:05:24
Sabria
like I was like, oh my God, like i'm a like I love these characters. I was so, cause I watched the movie um and I actually watched the movie, like um like maybe like five or six years ago and as an adult, because I feel like ah every time I want to watch it, I'm like, nah, this is going too long.
01:05:39
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:05:45
Sabria
I'm like, it's too long, it's too long, it's too long. So I watched it um and I feel like it was perfect to watch it like in my late 20s. And I'm like, okay, this is cool.
01:05:55
Sabria
I liked it. um It was very like, the movie was like very like homoerotic. It wasn't like bam, like in your face.
01:06:04
gatherthempod
very
01:06:04
Sabria
oh and again very long um but the show it's like in your face but these niggas is gay okay i was just like oh like i just did not know what to expect because i kept on seeing it and i'm like
01:06:12
gatherthempod
is in your face. This is yes. Yes. Yes.
01:06:23
Sabria
I don't know. And like I finally watched it because shutter and AMC are like one thing now.
01:06:30
gatherthempod
e
01:06:31
Sabria
And like I was paying for shutter.
01:06:32
gatherthempod
Really?
01:06:33
Sabria
Yeah. So I have, um I have it through Amazon because I was getting shutter through Amazon and the Amazon sent me an email and they were like, they've merged. And it was like, you can cancel your shutter subscription.
01:06:45
gatherthempod
Hold on. Wait a minute. Hold on. Like, I gotta write this stuff down.
01:06:47
Sabria
so
01:06:48
gatherthempod
This money. Wait.
01:06:49
Sabria
So I have, ah so I have, um, it's AMC plus and then shutter is also on AMC plus.
01:06:54
gatherthempod
OK.
01:06:57
gatherthempod
OK.
01:06:57
Sabria
So I'm always looking for stuff to watch. And I was like, you know what, since I have AMC plus and I feel like I'm like, I don't feel like getting back into the walking dead. That's just too much. So I'm like, all right, let me watch an interview with the vampire.
01:07:06
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
01:07:09
Sabria
Cause I'm like, I, I'm overdue for a vampire show. I haven't watched a vampire show since true blood. Yeah. Have you watched it since true blood?
01:07:16
gatherthempod
Oh, yeah, that's a that was a good one.
01:07:18
Sabria
oh True blood.
01:07:18
gatherthempod
I think I just was I was talking to somebody about that recently about like how this is this show is pretty much like our next vampire thing because True Blood was like the last one that was like good.
01:07:30
Sabria
Yeah, it was and I was hooked. Okay.
01:07:33
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:07:34
Sabria
Obsessed like I was so obsessed like when I went went to college, I like wrote like a spec script, and like based on the last season and true blood like I was obsessed.
01:07:45
Sabria
Um,
01:07:45
gatherthempod
I know that's right.
01:07:46
Sabria
But yeah, I love Interview with the Vampire. I think it's such a good show. um i didn't I love like the dialogue in it. I feel like it's really good.
01:07:58
Sabria
um And um just I love the characters so much. like I feel like that's my family. That's how I feel.
01:08:06
gatherthempod
No, for real.
01:08:07
Sabria
I'm like, that's my family.
01:08:07
gatherthempod
Nope. No, for real.
01:08:09
Sabria
Those are my husbands. That's my daughter. like I ah love them.
01:08:13
gatherthempod
Yes. I was going to also say too, just about like the original interview with a vampire is like, I barely, like I haven't watched that in like so long that I barely remember what even kind of sort of happened.
01:08:27
gatherthempod
Like I remember like the bits and pieces. Like I remember Kirsten Dunn's heaven that freak out of like, I'm like, you know, a child forever. And I'm in a woman or my woman in a child's body.
01:08:35
Sabria
yeah yeahp
01:08:37
gatherthempod
And I remember all of that. I don't remember really the end because I remember, like you said, it was really long and I've watched, I haven't watched it in like so long, but it was something, it was one of our mutual friends on X, formerly known as Twitter, um that I don't know her name in real life, but like,
01:08:44
Sabria
so
01:08:58
gatherthempod
Um, she wrote, she's the, the one that has a locks, um, black girl.
01:09:01
Sabria
yep.
01:09:02
gatherthempod
She has, uh, she writes the vampire. She writes the dark road series. yeah yeah Yes.
01:09:07
Sabria
Yes, yes, yes,
01:09:07
gatherthempod
Yes.
New Show Discoveries and Vampires in Media
01:09:08
Sabria
yes.
01:09:08
gatherthempod
Yes. Yes. So she was the one that was actually like, that I was like, I should watch the show. And then she was like, it's really good. And I was like, All right. I'm a, I'm a, I have to lock in, but I don't know when I'm a lock in.
01:09:17
Sabria
Yeah.
01:09:19
gatherthempod
And then when I found out that it was like, when I think it was like, when I saw fan cams and stuff on Tik TOK and I saw it was like gay, I was like, all right, I'm gonna give it a shot. And then when I saw the no colored sign, when he put the note or no, what he wouldn't say no whites.
01:09:33
Sabria
yeah
01:09:33
gatherthempod
sign. And, um, I was just like, all right, people are talking about this show. Like, let me kinda, let me watch it. And I was hooked. I watched the first, for like the first season and one weekend.
01:09:45
gatherthempod
And then I kept, and then I kept trying to like tease out the rest of it and ended up instead of like having just my like whatever 21 day, uh, trial or whatever to AMC plus
01:09:46
Sabria
Same.
01:09:58
gatherthempod
I ended up getting charged for it. Cause I was like, fuck it. I guess I, at that point I was just like, I got like, I must've got busy or something happened. And I was just like, they got my money. So I didn't watch it in time, but it was good or it is good.
01:10:12
gatherthempod
I should say.
01:10:13
Sabria
Yeah, it's I'm so happy because that would have been my 13th reason if it didn't buy one day I wouldn't be able to make cuz like I literally am even though I cuz I was like, let me read the book like to hold me over.
01:10:14
gatherthempod
And it got renewed for a third season.
01:10:19
gatherthempod
how
01:10:28
Sabria
But like, I just was talking to one of my friends about it. And he was like, there's so many words on one page. I'm like, there is so I'm sorry, I gotta do the audio book.
01:10:34
gatherthempod
There is.
01:10:37
Sabria
I gotta do the audio book.
01:10:38
gatherthempod
Yeah, I read the book.
01:10:39
Sabria
because I'm just like I'm too and it's the ah first one the audiobook is 15 hours um but I did read like I read like the first three pages um and I did like it but I'm just like it's so many words on one page um but I um I was reading it and I was just like hmm but um but jumping around a little bit
01:10:53
gatherthempod
It is a lot.
01:11:03
Sabria
after I watched Interview with the Vampire, I was like, let me rewatch Queen of the Dam, because um she is ah her and Lestat were like, you know, like that.
01:11:09
gatherthempod
Yes, that's what I want to do next. Yes.
01:11:15
Sabria
So I rewatched Queen of the Dam because I had wanted to because I'm like, first of all, every version of Lestat is like scary.
01:11:24
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:11:24
Sabria
But I feel like this version of him is the scariest.
01:11:28
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
01:11:29
Sabria
um So I rewatched the Queen of the Dam because I went wanted to I mean, I knew how he was. But I'm like, I just want to see him as a comparison of this version.
01:11:39
Sabria
And he was just like way calmer. um he wasn't he actually was like he had a heart um he wasn't so i'm like this is the most ruthless version of Lestat um but i know you said that you didn't remember the movie what i remember from the movie um
01:11:42
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
01:11:58
Sabria
I remember the ending it being like Brad Pitt um rep like, um, like packing up his things. And I think he was like driving in the car.
01:12:09
Sabria
Um, and he was at Stanford. I think it was a San Francisco, the, um, the movie.
01:12:14
gatherthempod
Okay.
01:12:14
Sabria
Yeah. When, um, when he was being interviewed, um, but I don't remember how he hooked up with the interviewer.
01:12:18
gatherthempod
Yes. Okay.
01:12:23
gatherthempod
Right.
01:12:24
Sabria
Yeah. I don't remember that.
01:12:25
gatherthempod
Right. I forget how it happened in the book too. Cause I read the book and when I was an undergrad. Um, and so I, I have like bits and pieces of what I kind of remember about it, but, um, yeah, I'm, I'm like, and even my, I'm trying to think of how you linked up with him.
01:12:42
Sabria
Oh, I'm sorry. I remember how they met in the book because this and is right in the beginning.
01:12:44
gatherthempod
Okay, go ahead.
01:12:46
Sabria
It was just like in the show. It was a like the a bar set up.
01:12:51
gatherthempod
Okay, okay.
01:12:52
Sabria
it was It was like that. And the interviewer was like, what? You're not a man. You're just some weird ass nigga. You're not really a vampire.
01:13:01
gatherthempod
Right.
01:13:01
Sabria
But he was really like telling him more stuff. But it was just like, the show is closer.
01:13:09
Sabria
I don't remember to the movie like that.
01:13:10
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
01:13:10
Sabria
But yeah, it was like a bar setting.
01:13:13
gatherthempod
Yeah. Okay. What did you think of, um, in regards to the, I guess them turning Louis into a black man?
01:13:30
Sabria
I love it. I think that is also what got my attention and made me want to watch it.
01:13:34
gatherthempod
Hmm. Hmm.
01:13:37
Sabria
um And it makes sense um because he is from New Orleans. And um I feel like I mean, obviously, I know there are white people in New Orleans, but I feel like him being like a um like occasion black man makes so much sense.
01:13:55
Sabria
And
01:13:55
gatherthempod
It makes a lot of sense.
01:13:56
Sabria
It makes so much and also like me as a black car lover Like it makes me just like more invested in one to know like, oh my god Like what would he do next?
01:14:07
Sabria
Like, you know, so I just I love it and he's such a complex character and I feel like the black characters like there are Complexities but like I feel like he is like a complex in a way that is like almost relatable and
01:14:11
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:14:23
gatherthempod
yeah
01:14:24
Sabria
So I really do like him um as a character, probably like one of my favorite characters like in the past like decade on the show, honestly.
01:14:32
gatherthempod
I agree. I think he is, I can almost like kind of sort of see myself in him a little bit, I think.
01:14:38
Sabria
Yeah.
01:14:39
gatherthempod
And I think that that's why I really, ah you know, oftentimes I do see myself, I think with like in the ah frame of mind of like the protagonist anyway.
01:14:49
Sabria
yeah
01:14:49
gatherthempod
you know, maybe main character main character syndrome. I don't know.
01:14:53
Sabria
but
01:14:53
gatherthempod
But ah but I feel like he's it's like very relatable. The idea of him like he owns his brothel or like, you know, whatever.
01:15:04
gatherthempod
And it's like not that I'm saying that I. would, but just saying that like, but just saying that like he is, you know, trying to make it in this like Victorian era, um where he owns is very successful.
01:15:10
Sabria
I mean, in this economy.
01:15:14
Sabria
Yeah.
01:15:20
gatherthempod
So very successful brothel or whatever, but like, you know people come in and he still faces racism and like he still faces um you know like he's beaten down by the system and he's just trying to make a living and you know his family judges him and his family has these kind of like views of him that he doesn't um
01:15:26
Sabria
Mm hmm. Yes. Mm hmm.
01:15:44
gatherthempod
I mean, he's trying, like, I guess in a way he's trying to like, stay, he wants family. Like, that's what it is that like, he wants to have family.
01:15:49
Sabria
Yes, mm hmm.
01:15:51
gatherthempod
And it just is so interesting watching him get, um, constantly rejected throughout.
01:15:58
Sabria
Yes, I feel like I really felt like I related to him with like how he was like, not to be like, sound like one of them people was like, I love hard, but like he's like, the way that he is, he loves to stop, but he knows that he's not good for him.
01:15:58
gatherthempod
And that feels relatable.
01:16:09
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:16:16
Sabria
And he's like trying to actively leave him And he just cannot leave him alone. like I feel like if I wasn't so like vain, or if I didn't know the things that I know, the like I would be like that.
01:16:33
Sabria
like ah And how, like you said, family. and like love that means so much to him like he just wants even though he is a gay black man and a vampire like he craves like some normalcy and I just like and how like he saw Claudia and it was like I'm taking her and around me like this is my daughter like I want like when she like everything was burning down he like I see I have to save her how he begged to start to save her like I just feel like as somebody who's like naturally maternal like I just really identify with him with that and I'm like wow this is so exciting like seeing like a black character in like in this setting in like something like the horror genre and like I can relate to I mean I cannot believe like it's I'm 32 and this is the first time that I'm seeing this like this is wow so yeah I think that's why I really like love him because he just like he really is just like a hopeless romantic somebody who craves normalcy like he loves friends family like he just wants
01:16:46
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:16:53
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:17:40
Sabria
to live in my he's been burdened with this curse. And he's just trying to navigate it. And the person who will understand him the most is the somebody that he can't even be with because they just have such a tumultuous relationship is just like, so I feel like I don't I just see myself um in him with that element with those elements.
01:17:52
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
01:18:00
gatherthempod
Right. And it's so crazy because at the end of it, like I and that's why I was like, girl, we got to talk about this because like because it was like at the end of it for me, I was like.
01:18:14
gatherthempod
I think it took me a while to maybe get to the point of like, okay, like Lestat did save Louis. And like he did, um you know, he tried to, like he he cared about Claudia, even though he acted like he didn't.
01:18:25
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
01:18:28
gatherthempod
Because at the end of the day, like he did make her like he did make her and didn't really want.
01:18:29
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
01:18:34
gatherthempod
Like, I think a lot of it was ego and a lot of it was just not being in a space of knowing what maybe love is or like how to really navigate it.
01:18:46
gatherthempod
And I often find that that's like what it feels like in navigating queer relationships sometimes, like in real life.
01:18:53
Sabria
ah w And I feel like that's why it definitely makes sense that they are vampires in there because I feel like that that I feel from like I hear from a lot of other queer people is like that element you feel like a monster sometimes or you feel like what you're doing is unnatural.
01:19:12
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:19:15
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:19:15
Sabria
And like what's more unnatural than like a vampire?
01:19:17
gatherthempod
Exactly.
01:19:17
Sabria
And I feel like it definitely makes sense how they are.
01:19:21
Sabria
And then they have an element of like being an interracial like couple during this time.
01:19:23
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:19:27
Sabria
Like they was just laying on sick with this show. And I feel like people like not to be one of those people like why is nobody talking about this?
01:19:33
gatherthempod
Mm
01:19:35
Sabria
But I'm like, it's so like
01:19:36
gatherthempod
hmm.
01:19:38
Sabria
It's so much at one time. And like, I love it because like some I feel like so many shows are like, Oh, that's too much. Like, what makes somebody gay? Well, we can't make them black.
01:19:47
gatherthempod
Right.
01:19:47
Sabria
What makes somebody trans? But they have to be they they can't be neural divergent or they can't be but like, I feel like this show is just laying it on thick.
01:19:51
gatherthempod
Yup.
01:19:55
gatherthempod
They laying it on thick and I love it.
01:19:56
Sabria
Yeah, and I really appreciate that. um But yeah, I feel like you're definitely like correcting it. And I feel like let's let's not was just like used to, like, just feeding off of people or throwing them away. And he's like, Oh, like, I'm living out. I'm immortal. So I'm going to just live like people are disposable to me thing just for like this thing of love. Like it's not something that's obtainable for me. It doesn't matter.
01:20:25
Sabria
like and so when he got with lou he's like whoa this is different because didn't he say something about like the way he tastes or something no he compared sex to heroin like what
01:20:25
gatherthempod
Very.
01:20:31
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:20:35
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:20:37
gatherthempod
Yes. Yes. Yes. He was. Yeah, that was wow. I was like, oh, the sex that good. Oh, that's good. i mean worry Yes.
01:20:47
Sabria
Like it was, it's something about him that just like, whoop, like just drives him insane. And I feel like he is, he's so sabotaging.
01:20:56
gatherthempod
He self-sabotages every time. And I think for me, I think at the end of it, because I was like, ah one I want the best for Louis. like i want him to like I really want him to live like the best vampire life ever.
01:21:06
Sabria
No, same.
01:21:10
gatherthempod
And I don't know what what's going to happen and you know ah how are they're going to make things different from the book.
01:21:12
Sabria
True.
01:21:16
gatherthempod
But um I think the thing that felt so like hard for me to accept when I was watching the show and especially with the last episode of the, was it episode eight, season two, was just the fact that like he, I don't know, I i can't get over the fact that like Lestat beat him up like that.
01:21:39
gatherthempod
Like that was crazy to me.
01:21:40
Sabria
No, that was so, like, that really, I just was like, they was really in there fighting.
01:21:48
gatherthempod
Yeah, it was bad. And I also like I've heard of like gay couples that get into fights and stuff like that.
01:21:55
Sabria
Me too.
01:21:55
gatherthempod
And it just felt like it felt a little triggering, not that I've ever been in that situation, but it felt a little triggering just kind of like seeing this like depiction of inter partner violence um displayed on TV and this like very
01:22:00
Sabria
Mm hmm.
01:22:10
Sabria
Yeah.
01:22:15
gatherthempod
supernatural way. It was a lot.
01:22:16
Sabria
Mm hmm.
01:22:17
gatherthempod
um And, and then to know that like, Arman didn't really, I mean, in the end, it was like, he didn't, he's the reason why Claudia is dead, like, partly.
01:22:17
Sabria
It was it was a lot.
01:22:32
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:22:32
Sabria
it was agatha all along
01:22:32
gatherthempod
Like, It was Agatha all along. So like, Louis, like, I just felt so bad for him because I'm like, damn, like, he screwed you. He beat you up. Your, you know, your sister died.
01:22:45
gatherthempod
Like, you almost died.
01:22:47
Sabria
What do you have? Yeah, exactly.
01:22:48
gatherthempod
What else do you have?
01:22:50
Sabria
That's just, cause it's like who, cause it's like, okay, he can go back to his abuser.
01:22:55
gatherthempod
Right.
01:22:56
Sabria
And it's like, also like us as viewers, like how, like, how can, how do we take that? Like, how do we, do we forgive or forget?
01:23:02
gatherthempod
Right.
01:23:05
Sabria
Is this something that just happens with vampires? Are we taking it too personal? Like, it's just like so many things, like,
01:23:10
gatherthempod
Right.
01:23:13
gatherthempod
But I think that's a good I mean, I think that this is what kind of is why I love doing this on the podcast is like talking about media in this way, because I think media is very influential in the ways in which we live our lives.
01:23:27
gatherthempod
I this is why I don't really pay too much attention to like the Zeus network stuff, because I just noticed how like a lot of times when people like talk about baddies and things like that, I talk I tend to
01:23:32
Sabria
Yeah.
01:23:39
gatherthempod
Notice like this overlap in the ways in which people act like and it's almost like this mirroring of like what you're seeing and so I think that like having these like discussions about Fictional TV shows is just really important because at the end of the day there is this message or this underlying discussion of well these things happen in real life couples fight like people get into arguments things happen and it's like well I
01:23:44
Sabria
Yeah. Mm hmm.
01:24:03
Sabria
Yeah.
01:24:08
gatherthempod
didn't you kind of talk about it afterwards to say like, you know, as the viewer or, you know, you go and see a movie or watch a TV show together or something and you talk about it together and you start to maybe identify with some of the um ways in which these characters maybe influence you or things that you, you know, you think about these characters or you think about like, why do I hate this character so much?
01:24:27
Sabria
Yeah.
01:24:31
gatherthempod
Oh, it's because they have these qualities.
01:24:32
Sabria
Is there.
01:24:33
gatherthempod
And I'm like,
01:24:33
Sabria
Yeah.
01:24:35
gatherthempod
Yeah, let's that is definitely like gives fuck boy, but like he at the core you do empathize with him.
Character Analysis in 'Interview with the Vampire'
01:24:42
Sabria
Yeah, because it's just like, he's been around for so many years, he's seen so many things in like, he don't know how to love. We also don't know that much about like his background.
01:24:54
gatherthempod
We don't and that's what I think the third season is going to be.
01:24:56
Sabria
yeah yep so we don't know so too much about that i just know from um i mean i'm not sure obviously different directors different movies different whatever but like in um like queen of the dam his character like i felt sorry for him like I felt sorry for him he was truly just like a young boy who just like fell into this he was very scared like it was just like I felt bad for him in that element but it's like this one
01:25:32
Sabria
This was like, like, it's like, what is his background? Like, why is he this way? um What happened? Like, you know, so that's another element of sympathy as well.
01:25:45
gatherthempod
Right.
01:25:45
Sabria
um Once we find out his tea.
01:25:48
gatherthempod
right
01:25:48
Sabria
So it's just like, but I'm just, I'm really thinking about that. I'm just like, how do we like move on? Like, because they did have the clip of him like being because he is a, he, I think they are going to go into because they are like, um staying true to the book.
01:26:05
Sabria
So they're going to go into like, um him being a rock star, because that's how he was.
01:26:08
gatherthempod
Right. Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
01:26:11
Sabria
um and queen
01:26:11
gatherthempod
Yep.
01:26:12
Sabria
and Queen of the Dam, he was a rock star.
01:26:14
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:26:14
Sabria
So they're doing that um for the third season. And like, of course, he was charismatic, funny and stuff like that. But I'm like, literally you beat that man.
01:26:23
gatherthempod
You beat him up.
01:26:24
Sabria
Bloody you. I'm just like, um so I'm just like,
01:26:25
gatherthempod
Yes. Like you acted like you hated him.
01:26:29
Sabria
Yes, like he was somebody that you didn't know.
01:26:32
gatherthempod
Exactly.
01:26:32
Sabria
so i'm So I'm just like, how do we like, how do we take that? Cause like, again media, cause I'm like, am I taking this too personal?
01:26:37
gatherthempod
Right.
01:26:41
Sabria
Like, I don't know, like vampires, they do fight like a lot, but it is just kind of like, what's going to happen next?
01:26:42
gatherthempod
Well, yeah.
01:26:49
Sabria
Because it's like, you're like, he moved to Dubai with this man. And then, hey, they've been together for centuries.
01:26:54
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:26:57
Sabria
And then you find out.
01:26:59
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:26:59
Sabria
That this man is a crook like he is the reason why yes sister daughter is gone Yeah
01:27:02
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:27:07
gatherthempod
Yes, not the sister daughter.
01:27:11
gatherthempod
Not the sister daughter, but yes, like, yes, he is the reason why. And then and then the fact that he knew about it when I think they changed the girl um so that Claudia could have a partner.
01:27:23
gatherthempod
And he knew about it since then that they were that this was going to, that Louis um was going to be hunted or something like that. um I can't remember. the we The show went off back in May, but I was just like, we we still have to talk about this.
01:27:39
gatherthempod
but
01:27:39
Sabria
period.
01:27:40
gatherthempod
um I forget exactly what happened at the end, but like it was just something about like how he just kind of knew that the coven was already kind of sort of on to Louie and wasn't really.
01:27:53
Sabria
Yeah.
01:27:56
gatherthempod
And he says that he wanted to protect Louis, but like at the same time was going to, you know, had this plot to throw the coven over or whatever. It just was weird. It was like his, and his motives was just like inconsistent.
01:28:08
gatherthempod
And I just, and I feel like maybe that's where Louis was like, well, at least like in the end, um, let's stay.
01:28:08
Sabria
Yeah.
01:28:17
gatherthempod
He. One, he made him, two, he, you know, they both could bond over the fact that Claudia, um over her death, and I mean, they've already, they've been together, they've kind of sorta changed a little bit, maybe-ish, over, you know, how many years or whatever.
01:28:31
Sabria
Yeah.
01:28:37
gatherthempod
But yeah, it just been like, it was just an interesting, I think, way to end the show. um And then also knowing that the interviewer, Dan,
01:28:48
gatherthempod
Um, is now a vampire. He got his wish.
01:28:51
Sabria
yeah as all after all these years like what and yeah i'm just i'm already old on top of being me and man prior like that's just too much also it speaking of like how it ended like it made like again it's so complex because like he said it's like evil but it made me so sad when he was living in that poor house like that broken down house
01:28:57
gatherthempod
Yeah. Like, could you imagine being an old vampire?
01:29:13
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:29:18
gatherthempod
Yeah. Mm hmm.
01:29:20
Sabria
with that guy, with that young vampire, I just was like, oh, this is really sad. Like he's damn bad.
01:29:25
gatherthempod
Yeah, it was it was sad it it was a bad join.
01:29:28
Sabria
It was a bit, but oh my God, speaking of Claudia, I'm just like, damn, can my girl get a break? Like that, she just wanted to be a happy lesbian.
01:29:39
Sabria
Like that just made me so sad.
01:29:39
gatherthempod
Right.
01:29:42
Sabria
Like she finally got her girlfriend and then poof.
01:29:44
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. I was glad that she didn't have to die alone. I will say that that was a good way to look at it.
01:29:50
Sabria
That is a good way to look at it. Yeah.
01:29:53
gatherthempod
And I think, but I also wonder, I'm like, has she died in a fire? Um, she would have died with her family. So she also would not have died alone.
01:30:04
Sabria
Yeah, true.
01:30:05
gatherthempod
And so it almost, yeah.
01:30:06
Sabria
They should have left her ass in that room.
01:30:08
gatherthempod
So I kind of feel like they made her and then life was just torturous for her ever since.
01:30:13
Sabria
Honestly. Honestly, I'm just like, damn, it was no break.
01:30:16
gatherthempod
yeah
01:30:18
Sabria
And that makes me kind of want to look back at the movie because I'm like, was it really that, was it that bad um for that Claudia in a movie? But I'm just like, she had never gotten no break.
01:30:29
Sabria
that She just was so miserable. And like, s so as a girl who has been around two gay men in a relationship who were constantly fighting,
01:30:41
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:30:42
Sabria
I feel my girl. I definitely feel, I definitely, that was very real.
01:30:44
gatherthempod
Period.
01:30:47
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:30:49
Sabria
That was too, that was too close to home for me. Like I definitely felt, cause I'm like, this is really how it would be.
01:30:53
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:30:55
Sabria
I'm like, Oh my God, they're going at it again.
01:30:58
gatherthempod
Remember them. Oh my God. Remember I tagged you in the thing with Azalea Banks and she Claudia right to her journal.
01:31:02
Sabria
Oh yeah.
01:31:07
Sabria
That really was me. I'm like I really feel her like this is really how it be like oh my gosh y'all are fighting a again like again come on but yeah I have one I'm just like because again I mean we did see her die but I'm like is she gonna come back because she's been the actress has been in the press conferences so I don't know but but maybe it's they're like they're just telling her story like from the journal so that could be it but I'm just like hmm
01:31:15
gatherthempod
Again. Oh, my God.
01:31:29
gatherthempod
Oh, OK.
01:31:36
gatherthempod
Oh, that's a good point that she could be like a um not a main character, but like a what do you call those characters?
01:31:43
Sabria
like back like she's um i don't um like yeah like a recurring character like i think she might be like in the sequences she might or i don't but hmm yeah because oh that was just crazy when she looked at him when she looked at lisa and it was just like that was crazy that was yeah yeah
01:31:43
gatherthempod
I forget.
01:31:46
gatherthempod
Recurring yeah Yeah Mm-hmm. That was crazy I felt bad.
01:32:04
gatherthempod
i It was interesting when they switched to actresses, because I did not know that that was going to happen. um even though that Even though it had happened already, like I didn't know it was going to happen, because I was trying to race to watch it with everyone else.
01:32:18
gatherthempod
um And then I was like, oh, I didn't realize they switched actresses, but I think she had another commitment or something.
01:32:23
Sabria
Yeah, I think she did too. I think in the first actress was actually really young. I think she just was like 20.
01:32:29
gatherthempod
Yeah. Yeah.
01:32:30
Sabria
Yeah, and the other one I think she is she might be our age or like she might be a little younger than us. But yeah, that is that.
01:32:36
gatherthempod
It's crazy when people play like young characters like that and maybe our age.
01:32:41
Sabria
Yeah, that is why they're out there.
01:32:44
gatherthempod
They are
Vampire Societies and Media Portrayals
01:32:45
gatherthempod
out there as well.
01:32:45
Sabria
But I also like how like um they have like progressively like changed. like You could still see that she's a kid, but like shes still like she is getting more mature like with the way she, well, she was, because she's no longer with us, but her, yeah, to a queen.
01:32:56
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Rest in peace.
01:33:03
Sabria
But her like the way she dressed and the way like she carried herself, it was mary like very mature.
01:33:03
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:33:09
Sabria
And it's just like, that's why I'm like, yo, the vampire hive is so vicious. like
01:33:14
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
01:33:14
Sabria
They was so, oh my gosh, they was so mean. And I forgot his name. The one with the blonde hair, he's nothing to play with.
01:33:23
gatherthempod
Oh, God. Oh, yeah, I forget his name, too. It was nothing. Yeah, they were they were wild. Like, I couldn't... That was stressful. Like, I'm not gonna lie, but I was watching that, and I was stressed.
01:33:30
Sabria
That was stressful. That was stressful.
01:33:32
gatherthempod
Like, my stomach was hurting.
01:33:36
Sabria
That definitely was stressful.
01:33:38
gatherthempod
I think I blocked a lot of a lot of stuff out, because I was like, this is stressful as shit. Like... Like as I'm rethinking about it and I'm like, yeah, cause it was like ever. And then it was like the plans they kept trying to come up with to get out of it.
01:33:51
gatherthempod
And I was like, I don't see a way. It was a lot like the second season. Like the second season was deep.
01:33:56
Sabria
It was, it definitely was. I was just like, whoa, whoa. And I was on the edge of my st seat because I knew Lestat was going to come back. Like I had a feeling he was going to come back.
01:34:07
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:34:08
Sabria
And I'm like, I know his ass is not gone.
01:34:08
gatherthempod
Yes. Mm-hmm.
01:34:10
Sabria
And it's so crazy because that actor, like he plays him so well.
01:34:14
gatherthempod
He plays them so well. It's so scary.
01:34:16
Sabria
It is so scary. Like he is wicked.
01:34:20
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:34:21
Sabria
He is very wicked.
01:34:21
gatherthempod
That's interesting, too, that we kind of like are talking about this as well, because I think a lot of, I mean, I don't agree with the vampires, like the OG kind of vampire thing, but in terms of like our modern era of vampires.
01:34:33
Sabria
Mm hmm.
01:34:36
gatherthempod
um I think it's interesting how like there's been these different like segues or like there's been like Buffy, there's been the vampire diaries, there's been True Blood, there's been um Blade, like there's been all of these, you know, different kind of like vampire,
01:34:54
gatherthempod
um almost like these iterations or like these different, I don't know what the word is. I don't know, my brain is like not even working right now.
01:35:04
Sabria
Like, I know what you're talking about. Like, for instance, I don't recall in a room with a vampire, like them having to ask, no, he did.
01:35:06
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:35:14
Sabria
I'm sorry. Louie had to ask for permission to come into his parents' house.
01:35:17
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:35:18
Sabria
Um, but yeah, like it is interesting seeing like the different, like what vamp, like what's their different weaknesses.
01:35:26
gatherthempod
And then, like, there's always the character that's always either the Louis, it's like the Bill or, yeah, like, or Angel or somebody that's like the the proc like the one you want to win.
01:35:33
Sabria
Yes. Mm hmm.
01:35:36
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
01:35:39
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
01:35:40
gatherthempod
um And they always end up having like some fucked up tragic story, too. And then there's like the evil vampire, the Eric the, you know, like the one that is like a little bit more of the bad boy.
01:35:47
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
01:35:52
gatherthempod
And I feel like, and race is kind of the thing for that because there's a lot of a lot of different um vampire shows or movies where there has been like these two competing forces.
01:35:57
Sabria
She is.
01:36:07
gatherthempod
um of like good and evil and like they both tend to switch sides. Like are they, they tend to, it's a very complex relationship where it's not just a straight good, straight evil.
01:36:19
gatherthempod
It's like they have their own like personalities, their own motives and their own ways of doing things. And it's not like as clear cut as good and bad, which is like very interesting.
01:36:27
Sabria
yet They start becoming like a little like human, if you will.
01:36:32
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:36:33
Sabria
like Or they remember they're human.
01:36:33
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:36:35
Sabria
Because like I'm thinking about like in True Blood, like when like shit was hitting his hand, and like Eric would get scared, or like when his what was his sidekick, Pam.
01:36:45
Sabria
like when she would get scared she was definitely a bad bitch um but yeah like when people would get scared like when they got scared when they were were faced with like oh shit is really getting real like they would just be like they would seem like very human um and i feel like uh Lestat is like overdue for that he was the thing is the way they they the way they killed him i know his ass was gonna come back
01:36:46
gatherthempod
She's a bad bitch. Yes.
01:36:55
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
01:37:13
gatherthempod
ah We knew he was gonna come back. And I think that that's... yeah I feel like Louie did that intentionally.
01:37:18
Sabria
Yup. Me too. Yup.
01:37:19
gatherthempod
Yeah, he did that on purpose.
01:37:19
Sabria
He definitely did. He definitely did. He did not want to kill his baby.
01:37:23
gatherthempod
Yeah, he didn't want to kill him. He was like, nah, I can't.
01:37:25
Sabria
He, cause you know, Narwhal, you should have put him in a furnace.
01:37:29
gatherthempod
Yeah, that's his baby daddy, so...
01:37:31
Sabria
Yeah. Like, literally though, that definitely isn't.
01:37:34
gatherthempod
He was like, I can't kill my baby dad.
01:37:35
Sabria
but
01:37:36
gatherthempod
Sorry. yeah
01:37:38
Sabria
I'm like, come on, cut the cord.
01:37:40
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:37:41
Sabria
But I'm really excited for this third season. And I'm just like, will they I think her name is, um, the, the imperative, Elisa Asha, i like, I wonder if she's going to be in there.
01:37:53
Sabria
um
01:37:53
gatherthempod
Okay.
01:37:54
Sabria
Because again her like she had was that like wrapped around her finger cuz I was watching like rewatching it and she was so I mean again um Black vampire apologists.
01:38:07
Sabria
She was so ruthless She what I mean, she could have been more ruthless, but she definitely was ruthless um And they had the lisa had to end up taking her down.
01:38:10
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:38:17
Sabria
So I wonder if they're gonna get into that like Him.
01:38:21
gatherthempod
I hope so.
01:38:22
Sabria
Yeah, I hope they are too
01:38:23
gatherthempod
I love the universe. I kind of want to read the books only about all of the books outside of just the first one. um I mean, granted, if I ever like, if I can get to a point in my life where I can just do whatever I want to fucking do and get money, then I'm just going to sit around and read.
01:38:38
gatherthempod
book I want to know the tea.
01:38:39
Sabria
No, for real, because that's why I want to know the T, like the universe that Anne Rice like created is so detailed. And I just like, I got to know because I do want to watch Mayfair Witches.
01:38:48
gatherthempod
It is so detailed.
01:38:54
gatherthempod
Yes. I want to watch that too.
01:38:54
Sabria
I heard some people said they didn't like it, but like, I'm like, you know what? I'm going to give it a try.
01:39:00
gatherthempod
A lot of my followers like it. Like a lot of my followers are telling me to watch it.
01:39:03
Sabria
Really? I'm going to give it a try.
01:39:05
gatherthempod
Yeah. A lot of my followers are telling me to watch it. So I'm like, all right, I might give it a try.
01:39:08
Sabria
Cause I love when people create universes and like there's like elements and there's rules because in an interview with the vampire, I'm like, what the hell is up?
01:39:11
gatherthempod
Me too.
01:39:18
Sabria
Like when, what did they put on um daniel Daniel's computer? I'm like, I was like thinking about like his computer and like those, I forgot what the people are.
01:39:28
Sabria
I forgot their names, but it's somebody, what is it? It's like this, they're like a secret society, something.
01:39:34
gatherthempod
Oh, yes. Oh, my God. I forget what you're talking. Oh, my God. I know what you're talking about. um
01:39:38
Sabria
But I was so interested. I'm just like, hmm, like, where is this going to go? Where is this going to take us?
01:39:44
gatherthempod
Right. Yeah. that Oh, my God. that is It's like interesting, too, because I think also when I think about um Twilight, they I think more Twilight borrowed a lot from there, too, because they were they had the Volturi and they were just like I was like, oh, yeah, this is definitely giving interview with the vampire.
01:39:54
Sabria
Oh, of course.
01:39:59
gatherthempod
um But I think it's interesting when these vampires have like these secret societies and these like underground things. But I feel like if I was a vampire, I just wouldn't care about none of it. Like I would just be, I would just be walling out.
01:40:12
Sabria
And they'd be so high, like ah um thinking about ah what we do in the shadows, like how how they have like their underground stuff and there's all these rules.
01:40:17
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:40:23
Sabria
I would definitely be the misfits in the house. Like I would definitely be like the main vampires in what we do in the shadow. Cause again, like it's too, again, I ah respect ah rules, but like, I'm just like, it'd be too much.
01:40:34
gatherthempod
Me too. It'd be too much. It'd be way too much.
01:40:38
Sabria
It's too much, and then you get in trouble for this and that, and you gotta be respectful to this person. I'm like, this is too much.
01:40:44
gatherthempod
It's way too much. I just would be minding my business somewhere. um Also, did you know what we get in the shadows is or what we do in the shadows is also getting just one more season?
Impact of Show Cancellations
01:40:54
Sabria
Oh, man.
01:40:55
gatherthempod
I know. After Chucky last night, girl, I'm like, it's not,
01:40:59
Sabria
I know, and I'm like, I feel like, I really feel like that was my fault because I was like, all right, I can watch, but it's really not, I'm just one person. so
01:41:05
gatherthempod
No, it's not. It really isn't because the thing is I started watching, well, the thing is I had been watching it, but I did not watch it when it was on. And then I found out that they split the, seat I hate when they do this, when they split the seasons now and there'll be like five episodes, five episodes.
01:41:16
Sabria
Me too. Yeah.
01:41:21
gatherthempod
And I was just like, what the fuck? So I ended up watching it all around the time it came back out and it came back out, I think in April, but I started around in May when I like did the whole rewatch when all the episodes were out.
01:41:31
Sabria
I hate it.
01:41:33
gatherthempod
And I was like, This shit is so good. And it left on that cliffhanger, and I'm like, my 13th reason. Literally, like, last night last night was so bad for me.
01:41:46
Sabria
No, because I thought about it. I thought about you when I saw it. I'm like, no.
01:41:50
gatherthempod
That was the...
01:41:50
Sabria
Because like like oh cause like I was following like the makeup artist for the show.
01:41:56
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
01:41:57
Sabria
And I'm just like, all right. I'm like, I got peacock. I could catch up anytime because I was watching it.
01:42:02
gatherthempod
Mm.
01:42:02
Sabria
um i was I was actually watching it when it was on, but I was watching it on peacock.
01:42:06
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
01:42:08
Sabria
But yeah, I'm just like, well damn. that another one bites the dust but yeah what we doing in shadows this i want this last season to have a thousand episodes um please because i'm like that show is i mean i know we're talking about interviews vampire but that show is so freaking good like it is so it's so good it's so like hilarious and like i am ah obsessed with the idea of somebody being an energy vampire but i think that is the most genius like character
01:42:12
gatherthempod
Another one.
01:42:17
gatherthempod
Me too.
01:42:25
gatherthempod
It is so good.
01:42:34
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:42:38
Sabria
Like in a show and so long like it's so funny.
01:42:38
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:42:42
Sabria
Um, did you see the movie?
01:42:42
gatherthempod
It is. I did not see the movie.
01:42:45
Sabria
The movie is good.
01:42:45
gatherthempod
No, but okay.
01:42:46
Sabria
The movie is good too.
01:42:47
gatherthempod
Okay.
01:42:48
Sabria
The movies actually I watched the show before I watched the movie and and I watched the short so it's a it's based on a short film so I watched a short film the movie and then I watched the show but that is such a good
01:42:52
gatherthempod
Okay. Okay. When did the movie come out? Was that like, because I think didn't something come out in like the 70s or 60s was that oh hold on oh yeah I know you're right
01:43:05
Sabria
No, I think it might've came out in the early 2000s. I think it came out in the early 2000s, but I think the... the short film is on YouTube. I watched it on YouTube. But yeah, it's so good. Like I just love I again, like you said with the secret societies like I love when there's like elements in like different classes and categories like to vampires. Like I love that. I did it. The crazy thing is I actually didn't really get into Twilight. I was forced
01:43:38
Sabria
by Iman.
01:43:39
gatherthempod
not forced okay
01:43:39
Sabria
um She loved Twilight, so I was forced to watch the movies, um but I never really got into it. I never really got into it. But I was Team Jacob.
01:43:48
gatherthempod
looking okay looking back i actually should not have been team anybody but at the time i was team edward
01:43:50
Sabria
That's all I know.
01:43:58
Sabria
ah Yes, I remember you were.
01:44:00
gatherthempod
Yes, I was team Edward down.
01:44:00
Sabria
as i
01:44:02
gatherthempod
I had my team Edward Penn, or I had my Edward Penn somewhere in here and I wore it in my yearbook picture. My Spanish teacher was like, you are not gonna like Edward in 10 years. And the funny thing is I still did like Edward in 10 years, but now I'm, now in my thirties, I'm like, yeah, he does some real questionable shit.
01:44:18
gatherthempod
Like real questionable.
01:44:18
Sabria
Yeah. Because when I was watching it, I always felt like I'm like, this nigga is weird.
01:44:24
gatherthempod
Weird.
01:44:25
Sabria
He's so weird. And I felt like he like was emotionally ah manipulative.
01:44:31
gatherthempod
Yes, he was.
01:44:32
Sabria
um So it was just like, uh-huh. but
01:44:35
gatherthempod
And then Jacob was like the voice of reason, but he was also, I think going about it wrong because he just didn't want, he wanted her.
01:44:41
Sabria
Yeah.
01:44:44
Sabria
Yeah.
01:44:44
gatherthempod
And I think he was like, onto something when he was like, yeah, Bella, they're fucking weird. But like, you know, yeah his, his way of just going about it was just weird.
01:44:54
gatherthempod
And I think that was just cause he was young.
01:44:54
Sabria
No. Yeah, I agree.
01:44:57
gatherthempod
Yeah.
01:44:57
Sabria
I definitely agree. But I always felt like it was something suspect about it. But like, nobody will listen to me like I just was deemed a hater because I'm like, I was supposed to like him because I was a teen girl.
01:45:08
Sabria
But I'm just like, no, it's something weird about him.
01:45:08
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm No, yeah looking back I'm like yeah i was a little But you know what Stephanie Meyer will let you will let you live I guess Yeah, do what you want to do girl is this out there I Was thinking of dark shadows.
01:45:17
Sabria
Yeah, I mean, she's Mormon. So do what you want with that with that information.
01:45:27
gatherthempod
That's what it was. I was thinking of the the Gothic soap opera Mm
01:45:28
Sabria
Oh yes, dark shadows. Yes, yes. You know what's funny? I used to get that mixed up as well. um But yeah, dark shadows, I've never seen it.
01:45:35
gatherthempod
-hmm
01:45:38
gatherthempod
I've never seen dark shadows, but you also did not see the movie, um, of what we do in the
Evolution and Representation in Horror
01:45:42
gatherthempod
shadows. But I was, I was like, okay, I'm thinking. And I'm like, something was in the sixties and seventies. And when you was like, no, to early like early 2010s, I'm like, Oh.
01:45:53
Sabria
But no, it's that. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about, but I haven't seen it yet. But that's crazy. Like vampires have evolved like so much.
01:46:01
gatherthempod
Yeah, I love that we are starting to get into this era. And I guess we'll move into the final thought segment of the show and just kind of talk about black people and black and queer people, specifically black and queer people in horror. um But I love that we are starting to get to this point where we are talking a lot about elevated horror and like what that looks like. And we're starting to become way, way more inclusive in the horror space.
01:46:29
gatherthempod
um I guess, what are your thoughts regarding right now? what is it How are you feeling about that? like Are you feeling the same way? like what do I kind of want to get your thoughts, especially because you are like a film major and like an art major, and I really um want to know like your thoughts on where you maybe see the landscape heading and what you would like to see.
01:46:55
Sabria
I think it's really picking up and I feel like we're heading to a place where i like where I'm comfortable um and excited and I feel hopeful about my own projects. like For instance, even if it's something that like necessarily isn't my style, like um I watched the girl and her monster and the main character was a black girl.
01:47:20
Sabria
And I liked it because it was a Dr. Frankenstein-esque type of movie. um And that made me so excited because i'm like I was thinking about like me as a kid, if I saw that, like how excited I would have been, what that would have done done for me, how that would have inspired me as a filmmaker. um But I'm very excited because I have been working on um a horror movie um
01:47:51
Sabria
I've it's crazy because I don't write hard often but it's something that I wrote when I was in college and Transitioning out of college and I started like going back and adding stuff to it um and I'm just like getting more excited because I'm like, I feel like there is like a place for um People in horror there was there was a um, what is it called? It's the movies called the transfiguring I think that's what it's called and it's a um, it's black, um vampires, I haven't found I need to find it but um, I I think you have to pay for it, um, but
01:48:32
gatherthempod
course
01:48:32
Sabria
Yeah, it's my favorite thing. But yeah, it is a um black film ah with um like black kids like as me and priors. And I'm just like, Oh my gosh, like this is so exciting. Like we are really getting there. Like I just really what I want to see is definitely more Black women in horror, like Black final girls, um Black women who are but Black women in body horror, Black women who are just like maybe strange and unsettling, Jennifer's body type of thing.
01:48:52
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm. Yes Yes
01:49:08
Sabria
um I don't know if you saw the movie May,
01:49:09
gatherthempod
Mm
01:49:11
Sabria
Um, but May is a good um good movie.
01:49:12
gatherthempod
-hmm
01:49:14
Sabria
It's about like this like weird, unsettling girl. Um, she's taking body parts from different people to make like a doll. Um, and, and, um, I want to see stuff like that, like weird, unsettling, um, black women in horror, just like black people in general and like,
01:49:23
gatherthempod
oh okay
01:49:34
Sabria
queer people because I feel like the black queer experience is way different from the experience of like white counterparts and there's a lot of elements in horror um like that could but I mean there's a lot of elements that could be used as like for a good horror film
01:49:49
gatherthempod
Oh, okay.
01:49:56
Sabria
Like for instance, I don't want to give too much away, but the movie, I saw the TV glow. um One of the main characters is black and they're having, you know, what are portrayed as mixed race, um but they're having um like thinking ah different things with their gender and things like that and so like that's why when I after I saw that movie it really like broke my heart like just like just thinking about it I'm just like whoa that was so heavy because the main character was black um and just thinking about the experience of a black like trans woman um and I'm just like whoa that's really heavy and the film is made by a trans person so
01:50:27
gatherthempod
Hmm. Hmm.
01:50:37
gatherthempod
Oh
01:50:40
Sabria
um but i would like to see more things like that because i feel like the thing about heart is yes sometimes it's scary i mean it's scary of course and it's hokey but like there are some elements that can like really make you think like how we were talking about how like movie and lifestyle like even though they're vampires the fictional show everything that was going on in a relationship is stuff that's very real And it's it's very real and especially as them as a gay couple and it's just like some things you're like cool like you know should I take this person I just want more like black hard people black people hard in general but like especially movies that like make us think or like you know people looking at like elements of our lives and be like whoa like you know so stuff like that.
01:50:41
gatherthempod
nice
01:51:06
gatherthempod
is a Very well Mm-hmm No, I think that that's great, honestly, because um and that actually brings up a lot of good other follow up questions I had.
01:51:39
gatherthempod
um But I think, yeah, like we talked about earlier, like horror has this element that a lot of other genres I find don't necessarily have when I kind of think about it or think about, well, I was talking to one of my coworkers about um hospital dramas.
01:51:55
gatherthempod
And I was like, I'm not really a fan of hospital dramas because they feel like very sad or it's like very chaotic. And will you already when you're like a social worker or you're working in and like a helping profession sometimes,
01:52:02
Sabria
Yes.
01:52:07
Sabria
Yes.
01:52:09
gatherthempod
I'd be like, I got to tap out. like i can't you I can't lock in. like I really can't lock into this.
01:52:13
Sabria
No Peru.
01:52:13
gatherthempod
So just something that's like really set. And the thing about Grey's Anatomy is like every like it's the patients, it's the hospital, it's the doctors, it's the students.
01:52:24
gatherthempod
like It's too much. like It's everybody.
01:52:26
Sabria
It's a lot.
01:52:27
gatherthempod
It's a lot. But I feel like horror has this like really good balance of, yes, it's scary, but there's also these like the The social commentary behind it is like really interesting.
01:52:38
gatherthempod
And like I said, like the ways in which we can see these parallels and like relationships and um you know the idea of desire, the idea of like vampire vampirism and like what that essentially means, like what that like draining someone else's life force so that you can stay alive.
01:52:56
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
01:52:58
gatherthempod
like There are people in the world that do that.
01:52:58
Sabria
Mm-hmm. Just like the energy vampire.
01:53:01
gatherthempod
and
01:53:02
Sabria
That's why it's so funny to me because it's just like you everybody works with somebody like that.
01:53:08
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm Yep Yes, yes so I think that that is like such an like a thing that horror can do even like I think when you talked about zombies like the idea of a zombie or like the living dead or something that is
01:53:08
Sabria
Everybody works with somebody or knows somebody like that. And the fact that like and you're just like why are you like this? But then you see this person's the energy a vampire and that's literally how like you said they're staying alive.
01:53:34
gatherthempod
um That's just like this idea, almost like, I mean, ah in a ways, like we kind of talk about it now. we We kind of feel like that now in our society with technology, like they're people that are vicariously living through others.
01:53:48
Sabria
Yeah.
01:53:48
gatherthempod
Like it almost feels like there are these very real parallels to these like fictional things. And I love like talking about that. Like I think I talked a little bit about hereditary and like what that was like for me, like watching it as a social worker, watching this family just like,
01:54:02
Sabria
Ooh.
01:54:07
gatherthempod
fall apart, you know, and I was disappointed in the deliverance.
01:54:08
Sabria
Yeah.
01:54:13
gatherthempod
Um, dare I say it with, uh, you know, with Lee Daniels, um, I was.
01:54:16
Sabria
Oh, that was, yeah, me too. I was so, I had, I was like, Oh, like this seems like, but like somebody describe it as they, they felt like it was really a religious movie, but trying to use horror as like the vehicle to like, um, like preach.
01:54:31
gatherthempod
That's a, that's a good point. Yeah.
01:54:33
Sabria
And, and it also seems like a movie or somebody who watched a horror movie once it was like, Oh, this is how it is. Like when somebody's possessed, they jump on a wall. When they're possessed, they curse, they say outlandish things.
01:54:46
Sabria
Like that's how it is. Like you saw the excesses once and you're just like, Oh, this is how it is.
01:54:49
gatherthempod
And that's it.
01:54:50
Sabria
So yeah, I was disappointed with that. Cause I did think that I thought I'm like, Oh, it might be something there. But like, I was ah disappointed in that I was.
01:55:00
gatherthempod
And that was like, I think, ah and that was crazy, because i they had an all-star cast. Like, you had literally all the tools. Like, I don't understand what happened. but
01:55:07
Sabria
Hello. Bye.
01:55:09
gatherthempod
Like you had Glenn Close and Andrea Day, like stop playing. um But I think that that was ah funny how in the movie or in the movie, there seemed to be this kind of like, you feel uncomfortable watching it because you're just like, this is there's trauma happening in this like in this family unit.
01:55:30
Sabria
Yes.
01:55:33
Sabria
Yeah.
01:55:34
gatherthempod
And you start to, I, in a way, I started feeling like uncomfortable watching it, but I also was like recognizing, I'm like, this and isn't necessarily good.
01:55:40
Sabria
No, same.
01:55:44
gatherthempod
And it feels like you're just trying to make me uncomfortable just to make me uncomfortable with trauma.
01:55:47
Sabria
Cause like all them um the emotions were like, so everything was so big. It was like, ah like so big and like some things seem like they didn't like
01:55:52
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:55:59
Sabria
interconnect with each other is like something things felt out of the blue.
01:56:00
gatherthempod
Hmm. Hmm.
01:56:03
Sabria
But like, I am a Tony Collette apologist. So I love Tony Collette.
01:56:10
gatherthempod
um Me too.
01:56:10
Sabria
So I just was like her delivery and everybody know her iconic speech. It just was like, Like, you know, but it was like, I feel like it definitely was, I feel like that's a lot with the A24 movies.
01:56:24
Sabria
Like it definitely made me feel uncomfortable.
01:56:25
gatherthempod
Mm
01:56:26
Sabria
And especially because that is a Aria Esther film, which reminds me, um I just was thinking about another thing that I do like in horror um is when grief is the monster because grief is a monster.
01:56:30
gatherthempod
hmm.
01:56:40
gatherthempod
Yes, it is.
01:56:42
Sabria
And um I feel like that was prop there was another thing in Hereditary where like grief was like the the baseline for the horror. um And speaking of Ester, it's kind of a horror movie. Bo is afraid.
01:57:02
gatherthempod
OK, I think I've heard of that one.
01:57:02
Sabria
um And first of all, that movie is like three hours long. It's long as hell.
01:57:05
gatherthempod
Oh, shit.
01:57:06
Sabria
It's so long.
01:57:06
gatherthempod
Oh, my God.
01:57:08
Sabria
It's with Joaquin Phoenix. It's so long.
01:57:10
gatherthempod
Of course.
01:57:12
Sabria
But in that movie, Grief was the monster.
01:57:15
gatherthempod
me Okay.
01:57:16
Sabria
And like it was a very crazy chaotic movie, but like it kept me like hanging because the monster, like it was like Grief was the the monster.
01:57:26
Sabria
And the same thing with the Baba Duke.
01:57:29
gatherthempod
here Yes.
01:57:30
Sabria
That's why I like that move too. um Because it's like in grief, anxiety, just unhappiness, all that stuff like that was just like ah realized as um a monster.
01:57:32
gatherthempod
Yes.
01:57:41
Sabria
So that actually is something that I would like to see um in um going forward in like black horror.
01:57:41
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm
01:57:49
Sabria
I think that's why I enjoy Get Out so much because It was like racism, um microaggression, definitely it was more than race though. I mean, race, microaggression is a form of racism, but like microaggression was the, I feel like was the monster in that movie was that was the, the, feet the, el like just everybody.
01:58:08
gatherthempod
Yes
01:58:13
Sabria
I remember when it first came out, everybody was laughing at when he was like, you know, I voted for Obama. I would vote for him twice, but every, I feel like every black person has had that conversation.
01:58:20
gatherthempod
Yeah, we've had that, oh my God, against our will.
01:58:24
Sabria
I guess I will.
01:58:29
gatherthempod
When I tell you, like, this is exactly why I think I fell out of my white guy phase, but like, ah Because it has been a lot, but I've been delivered.
01:58:36
Sabria
You've been delivered.
01:58:38
gatherthempod
But um it is something about even when I remember watching that movie or like when that movie came out and like the conversation around it, it was like white people were like walking out of the theater.
01:58:51
gatherthempod
They're just like, oh, this is like outlandish, like blah, blah, blah. And it's like, But y'all don't understand like the actual like what these microaggressions really do to us. Like they make us feel crazy.
01:59:01
Sabria
yeah yes
01:59:03
gatherthempod
Like they literally make us feel like it's like I can't tell.
01:59:04
Sabria
hu
01:59:06
gatherthempod
And this is why a lot of times black people do get trapped in the thing of you're being racist, you're being racist, you're being racist. Because sometimes I can even see it and I'm like, no, this isn't them being racist. This is just you just whatever.
01:59:18
gatherthempod
But I sometimes understand why that happens because of how often it happens to us and how we just have become so conditioned that it can be hard to sometimes tell between like, is this person being weird to me because like, they just don't like me?
01:59:24
Sabria
yeah.
01:59:29
Sabria
Yes.
01:59:32
gatherthempod
Or is it just because I'm black? And it's like, there's one thing if you don't like me because I'm, you know, there's something about me you don't like, but if you don't like me because I'm black, there's nothing I can do about that.
01:59:34
Sabria
yeah.
01:59:42
Sabria
Exactly exactly.
01:59:43
gatherthempod
Like, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. I'm sorry that I'm sorry. Um, and then I also agree with you. I want more final girls that are black. I really do.
01:59:51
Sabria
Yes, because I was literally like thinking about that and like because uh, you know I do like the horror movie thing like during october and like I was looking like I was trying to be conscious of like having more horror movies with like black people in them and I I'm gonna say i'm gonna tap into my letterbox, but yeah, I um
02:00:05
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm. That's what I was going to ask you if you knew any like hard queer Rex, you gave me a couple.
02:00:17
gatherthempod
Period.
02:00:19
Sabria
Um, what was it going to say? Wait, what was it? What should I get?
02:00:23
gatherthempod
Oh, about um the final girls, like final girls.
02:00:24
Sabria
Yes. The final. Yes. I was looking for black final rules and like, I know Brandy was one.
02:00:30
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:00:30
Sabria
Um, and yeah, she's in a new movie, a new horror movie.
02:00:31
gatherthempod
Oh, and she's on another one. She's on a new one. Yes. Her and Halle Berry.
02:00:36
Sabria
Um, yes but I'm like there's not I'm like what there's not really like a lot of black final girls and I'm like that doesn't make sense to me because black women are very resilient we're very like we are like thinking quick on our feet we have to that's what people see is that we have to be strong we have to make it to the finish line we have to be all these things so I'm like it would make sense for us to be a final girl
02:00:44
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:00:48
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
02:00:55
gatherthempod
Yes. The final girl, it makes a lot of sense, the ways and even the ways in which we kind of started having this conversation around like,
02:01:10
gatherthempod
I don't want to get political, but like Kamala Harris and like versus Trump or whatever and how like people were, there was a divide between like people saying like they didn't necessarily want, um, they're like, here we go again, like black women having to save the world.
02:01:15
Sabria
yes
02:01:26
gatherthempod
And it's like, yeah, but like, that's because of how resilient black women are.
02:01:31
Sabria
yeah.
02:01:32
gatherthempod
Black women oftentimes are the ones that will, y'all I don't know how y'all do it, but y'all make something out of nothing. like and i And it's crazy because like I'll think about it in my head.
02:01:41
Sabria
that's what i'm saying.
02:01:45
gatherthempod
like I think about my experience growing up as ah as a young Black man in Philadelphia. And i you know there's a lot of stuff that my mom my mom was like very strict, and she just didn't.
02:01:58
gatherthempod
um you know i didn't I wasn't running the streets and doing all that stuff, but like it's just something about how I think in my brain. I'm like, we still did stuff as a kid. like We were able to do stuff and we had social security, we had food stamps, like we had like all of a like we were being helped by the system, but my mom somehow made it work.
02:02:19
gatherthempod
and we were never without i mean There may have been like a couple times here and there where like
02:02:19
Sabria
Yeah.
02:02:25
gatherthempod
you know, the lights went out or whatever, but even as a kid, I was like, I mean, I'm just not on the computer. Like I just, it wasn't, and when the internet wasn't what it was now.
02:02:33
Sabria
Yeah.
02:02:33
gatherthempod
So, you know, there was also debt, but like, I just kind of think about, I think these things and the ways in which my mom was able to like survive and be a single mother.
02:02:44
Sabria
Yeah.
02:02:44
gatherthempod
And the fact that like, that takes strength. Like that takes a lot of strength and it makes a lot of sense to me that there would be there should be more black women that are final girls.
02:02:59
Sabria
Yeah, I'm like, it definitely makes sense. So I'm like, um, hello, like, where we at? Like, you know, yes.
02:03:03
gatherthempod
Where are we at? But I think we come in.
02:03:05
Sabria
I think so too. I think and the good thing is, like, a lot of filmmakers now are like our age.
02:03:07
gatherthempod
I think we come in.
02:03:13
Sabria
So they grew up like we grew up seeing things and being inspired and being like, I want this and we understand, like, about representation.
02:03:13
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:03:23
Sabria
And we also I feel like are more creative. um And uh yeah where i feel like we're more creative we're not afraid to be like cartoonish or like afraid to push the envelope doing so many things at once so i feel like that is what i'm hopeful for because like now that like younger millennials and gen z like we're of age we're like we're becoming like
02:03:35
gatherthempod
Yes.
Horror as Social Commentary
02:03:49
Sabria
people who are in these creative spaces that like have a voice and like making like you know things i feel like
02:03:56
Sabria
I definitely want to get better because the director, the writer, director of the TV, I saw the TV glow. um They are 37. And I'm like, so seeing that film, I'm like, all these things make sense, um because they are older millennial. And I'm like, they probably grew up wanting to see and they also understand the importance of making work and being like, I am a queer person. um My work is for queer people. Like,
02:04:26
Sabria
period. And like, I appreciate that. Because when I watched the movie, initially, I just was like, Oh, it's not because I was looking for something else. But I'm like, you know what it is. It's not for me. Like it's not for me. And I can confidently say that's okay.
02:04:42
Sabria
that it's not for me because for who is for is going to touch them is going to inspire them is going to do what it's supposed to do. So I feel like, um like our generation that we're not really scared to like shut people out and be like, this is for a certain audience. So that's why I do feel hopeful for like the genre of horror.
02:05:00
gatherthempod
Right. I have a question, too. um i've Well, let's do two more questions. but um I mean, even as we talk about this, like as we talk about like you know people becoming like more influenced into horror, and like or it like being ah growing as a genre that is, um how can I say this?
02:05:21
gatherthempod
this' like We're adding starting like to add these different elements and make it more complex and make it more interesting and new and fresh. um I still notice that there are a lot of like Black people that don't like horror, that don't like it at all.
02:05:35
Sabria
It is. It is.
02:05:36
gatherthempod
And I want to know what your thoughts are on that. Like, what do you think about that?
02:05:40
Sabria
Um, so I know there's some people who like, feel like, Oh, that's demonic. And like, I don't want to like, entertain the devil, like saying things like that.
02:05:46
gatherthempod
yeah
02:05:52
gatherthempod
Right.
02:05:52
Sabria
And I feel like that is a shame. Like, because it's such a, like, you know, there are, there's hard for everybody. Like there's stuff that's extreme, there's stuff that's mild.
02:06:00
gatherthempod
Right.
02:06:01
Sabria
Um, and I feel like those people are just like, I'm not interested in like trying to change how they feel. ah then there's some people who are just like genuinely scared and they don't want to like they think that horror is just all one-dimensional like they think everything is just blood guts and gore um and I feel like those people are easier to get to like maybe show them like something entry-level and they're like oh like that's not too bad um and another thing is I feel like if people see themselves more into something
02:06:29
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:06:35
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
02:06:35
Sabria
they will be more inclined to watch it like there's people who don't like horror but they were like oh i want to see it out i want to see us i want to see um nope so yeah so i feel like that's another thing like some like people they don't outrightly say like oh representation matters but to them they're like oh if nobody looked like me and then why am i watching it so i feel like ah that like those people who are like uh i'm not really into it or too scary whatever like for instance brandy's in a new movie
02:06:43
gatherthempod
That is a very, no, that's a good point. Right.
02:07:04
Sabria
um if more people it's an a24 movie so it's indie so it's like not getting like the buzz that like a big like you know like a paramount movie or anything would get but i feel like if more people was to know that like brandy is in a movie holly berry's in a movie like if you notice like there are black people that probably not into horror they're like yeah i saw gafica because holly berry was in it um so i feel like that's another thing like when we see ourselves
02:07:10
gatherthempod
Right.
02:07:24
gatherthempod
Yes, yes, yes.
02:07:30
Sabria
And some things were more inclined to be like, oh, I watched it.
02:07:34
gatherthempod
Right. I think you're right. Because when I think back on it, even with Get Out, for example, I think there were people, and have I have a friend that does not like horror at all. Like she don't she don play. And I was, like and I love, I would be loving horror. Like I remember we used to drag her to the movie theaters um with an undergrad to go see movies and she'd be like, why are we going to go see this? And I'd just be like, we gotta go see it, we gotta go see it. um But even like going to go see Get Out or something like that or like something that has this like,
02:08:10
gatherthempod
commentary to it or even this like relatability aspect of it of like seeing yourself in it or um witnessing like a horror and like get out that is like very um that can be very real like i mean like the whole situation of like switching out the brain or whatever i don't know about that but like the i mean they're you know people play dr frankenstein all the time but like i
02:08:21
Sabria
Mm hmm.
02:08:35
Sabria
True.
02:08:37
gatherthempod
whether or not it was gonna work or whether or not it will work in real life is questionable. But like in a space like that, seeing how like knowing our history and how like black people have been tortured throughout history, I sometimes wonder if people are like, I don't know if I wanna necessarily watch that because like of that.
02:08:56
Sabria
Yeah, you're right.
02:08:59
gatherthempod
But then I'm like, okay, but we are still making slave movies and I don't necessarily wanna see those. So,
02:09:04
Sabria
at all okay wait there is a black oh my god why am i forgetting the name of this movie it was called the blackening
02:09:14
gatherthempod
Yes, I wanted to see that and then I never got to see.
02:09:14
Sabria
di It's so good. Actually, I really liked it.
02:09:18
gatherthempod
Okay, okay.
02:09:20
Sabria
I really liked it. I like this so much. It's on what is it on? It's on stars. But somebody I was on a plane and some and this lady was watching next to me and I was looking over because I'm like, I wanted to tell that I'm like, Have you seen this?
02:09:26
gatherthempod
Okay.
02:09:30
Sabria
It's good. But yeah, I really liked it.
02:09:32
gatherthempod
All right.
02:09:32
Sabria
I feel like it did a good job of like, capturing like black. It's obviously like black millennials. And I feel like it did a good job of like capturing like that element like black Millennials who went to like HBCU, but it did a good job of capturing like those characters But I enjoyed the blackening.
02:09:46
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
02:09:51
Sabria
I didn't really like it Yeah
02:09:51
gatherthempod
OK. All right. I definitely I think I would like it. It's just that I haven't seen it. And I've and there's a lot of movies I haven't seen lately because I've just been busy as shit. But like and I got to watch movies with intention for the podcast.
02:10:03
gatherthempod
So that's literally where I'm at right now with stuff.
02:10:03
Sabria
yeah
02:10:07
gatherthempod
So, um yeah, I need to watch that. But I did watch the reading with Monique and her. The reading is on BET+.
02:10:15
Sabria
Did I see that?
02:10:18
gatherthempod
That was a ah ground one.
02:10:18
Sabria
what was she a Was she a mom?
02:10:20
gatherthempod
own Yeah.
02:10:21
Sabria
She was a mom?
02:10:22
gatherthempod
And then her family got attacked.
02:10:24
Sabria
Yes, I seen that. Yes, yes, I did see that.
02:10:25
gatherthempod
Yes. And then you remember the twist.
02:10:29
Sabria
Yes, that she did it.
02:10:31
gatherthempod
And she did it. And then it was crazy because when I saw that movie, I was like in it, you know, I was like, okay, they're like paranormal or whatever.
02:10:31
Sabria
Well, I'm sorry if y'all didn't see it.
02:10:39
gatherthempod
They're like, they're trying to like get talked to the family or whatever. And then there's that moment where you see Monique and the girl kind of like looking at each other. And then you're starting to realize as the viewer, something's not right.
02:10:53
Sabria
Yes.
02:10:54
gatherthempod
And there's this this long period that is like unsettling in the movie.
02:10:57
Sabria
Yes, yes.
02:10:58
gatherthempod
And you're feeling uncomfortable. And then when it flips, you're like, oh, shit. like That's literally how I felt when I watched Saul for the first time.
02:11:06
Sabria
Yeah, I was like, Whoa. Yeah, I love a good twist. I love it.
02:11:10
gatherthempod
I love a twist.
02:11:11
Sabria
I love a twist. I just was like, um, excuse me, like,
02:11:15
gatherthempod
And then she was chasing him around the house. That movie was wild.
02:11:19
Sabria
That movie was definitely wild. It was wild.
02:11:22
gatherthempod
Yeah, it's Monique. she That was a good one.
02:11:23
Sabria
I think that was a good one.
02:11:25
gatherthempod
I liked it. I will watch that one again.
02:11:26
Sabria
Yeah.
02:11:27
gatherthempod
But it was something about the twist.
02:11:28
Sabria
Yeah.
02:11:29
gatherthempod
Because in the beginning when the people came in, um or whether ah you know where we see what Monique wants us to see, which is the you know people coming in and killing her family,
02:11:40
Sabria
Yeah.
02:11:41
gatherthempod
We see that and I'm like something doesn't feel right about this, but like whatever um and then It's just that scene that where it's like that. It feels like 20 minutes I don't remember if it was but it felt like 20 minutes of just like Okay, they're doing something something's happening.
02:11:59
gatherthempod
She's realizing the girl is realizing something and then Monique is like, oh you found me out and then she was out that is scary and
02:12:06
Sabria
And that's scary, it's scary, it's scary when like, you know, so you clocked somebody's head and they know you clocked it.
02:12:12
gatherthempod
and they know you flocked it.
02:12:12
Sabria
And you like, and you like, um, no, no, no, I didn't. And they're like, no, no, no, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't.
02:12:20
gatherthempod
Yes. Yes. So that was, that was, oh my God, a movie was so good. I should, I definitely want to watch that one again.
02:12:26
Sabria
Yeah,
Personal Reflections on Horror Films
02:12:27
Sabria
it definitely was good.
02:12:27
gatherthempod
um And then how do you, I guess last question, just to kind of, you know, bring it all in. um Are there any specific um horror movies or queer or media that represent, ah how kind of sorry, let me get this shit together.
02:12:40
gatherthempod
I mean, my brain is starting to fall apart at the end. God, um this is what is like hosting a show and running a show, but um are there any like specific horror movies or media that resonate with you as a queer person or as a black person and why?
02:12:56
Sabria
Um, who so I feel like so it's actually a new movie. Um, and it's like, it's hard.
02:13:07
Sabria
It's not like, like scary, scary, hard, but um it has elements of hard Lisa Frankenstein. Um, I actually like got emotional when I was in the theater watching that movie.
02:13:15
gatherthempod
Yes, see.
02:13:19
gatherthempod
Okay.
02:13:20
Sabria
because I just like saw myself as a teen girl who was like very weird and like still figuring out how to be weird and not too weird and not like off-putting and like still being true to myself and then like the like not feeling like you know like I had to hide who I was when like some people were like ew or like whatever so like I feel like that movie like I really saw myself it really resonated with me um especially as like a teen girl who was like obsessed with like
02:13:55
Sabria
um like singers or like um philosophers who like died and i was just like oh that's my man like i love buddy holly like that man is dead
02:14:01
gatherthempod
o
02:14:07
Sabria
And like, and Lisa Frankenstein, like as Lisa Frankenstein. um So she like, you know, brought somebody back from the dead as obviously Franken based on like, you know, ah Dr. Frankenstein. And like, she just felt like nobody else understood her, like in her life. And she like, everybody was just against her. She felt like a freak. um And she, the only person that got her was like this zombie man that she brought back.
02:14:37
Sabria
to life um and i just was like wow like if i saw this as a teen girl i just would have been like whoa this is me because i just like felt i just like this is amazing like i really feel like this is like so me um another um movie i brought it up earlier was the baba duke um as somebody with like anxiety i really the mom who how she just was just losing her shit i just was like
02:14:38
gatherthempod
a
02:14:50
gatherthempod
Yes. Yes.
02:15:05
Sabria
ah like move like I definitely feel like that. in my so um was she like And I also like kind of felt like the sun too, when he was like in the back of the car, just yelling.
02:15:14
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
02:15:16
Sabria
She's like, why can't you be normal?
02:15:17
gatherthempod
Oh, yeah literally my brain talking to itself. like Right.
02:15:23
Sabria
I'm like, that's literally me like talking to you. And he just like is looking like, yeah like i'm just like i really like when i saw that movie i'm like real shit like i really feel this like this movie is like this is real um another one is this is probably like like a hokey one um return of the living dead um her name was graveyard
02:15:35
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:15:46
gatherthempod
Mm hmm.
02:15:49
Sabria
the um the lady who like she just got like naked in the graveyard and she was like really like yeah bring it on like but then when them zombies start coming her ass got scared and she got real scared it got real but then when they turned her
02:15:59
gatherthempod
Yes, she got scared. Yes.
02:16:06
Sabria
she was like all right I'm feeling it like I'm feeling it so I'm like I when I was definitely younger I was just definitely like saw my like self in that character because I'm like she like all for that like yeah but when it got real she got real scared like uh yeah got a blast
02:16:08
gatherthempod
Right.
02:16:21
gatherthempod
She got real and was like, all right, I gotta get out of here. Yeah. No, that's literally me. Like I'm gonna have fun. And then when people, that's what I literally tell people. I'd be like, when shit start, I told this to my coworker the other day, this is so funny. I was like, the reason why I go so hard and why I go to the gym and why, like I'll literally take multiple, I'll take multiple breaks and literally just go on walks in the city. Because I just feel like if shit ever hits the fan, I gotta get my two legs and I gotta run.
02:16:49
Sabria
No, real. No, for real.
02:16:51
gatherthempod
I'm not gonna be like fucking around with the lady that does walking down the steps one step at a time. I'm trying to be the fuck out. So.
02:16:58
Sabria
No, same. That's what I told my trainer. I said I want to be able to survive a zombie apocalypse.
02:17:04
gatherthempod
Yes, if it really happens and I'm like, I mean, my will to live is going to depend on a lot at that point. But like, you know, it's on how bad I think it is.
02:17:10
Sabria
Yes.
02:17:14
gatherthempod
But honestly, like if something is shit hits the fan and I'm like, if I don't got access to a car or I know like it's going to be crazy, I'm like, I need my two legs and I got to be able to run and walk.
02:17:26
Sabria
know for real when it gets real.
02:17:26
gatherthempod
So that's why I'd be like 10,000 steps or more a day.
02:17:30
Sabria
Exactly. So that's why I definitely felt her. um And then um there's two more. um Jennifer's body. I feel like I feel like definitely seen it as a teenage girl.
02:17:38
gatherthempod
Yes, that was a good one too.
02:17:42
Sabria
That is like honestly what it feels like to be a teenage girl.
02:17:46
gatherthempod
yeah
02:17:46
Sabria
And like, when I think the tagline of the movie is hell as a teenage girl. And that is so true. Like when you're a teenage girl, like you feel evil, you feel sad, you feel like, oh, like boys, like you just feel insane.
02:17:53
gatherthempod
Right.
02:18:03
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:18:03
Sabria
So I'm like, when I saw that movie, I'm like, this is what it's like to be a teenage girl. Like Jennifer's body, like straight up like that is a movie that definitely, and that that's another Diablo Cody movie she did, Lisa Frankenstein.
02:18:14
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
02:18:15
Sabria
So I'm like, she really has a PhD in what it's like to be a teenager because i'm like that's really how it was feeling um and the last one is um i actually i'm like damn i should talk about this earlier um there's a movie called phyto um that i love so much so phyto is about um it's like what what capitalism does to the zombie apocalypse so there's a zombie apocalypse and um instead of killing all the zombies they have the zombies as like pets and they do things for
02:18:40
gatherthempod
Oh.
02:18:49
gatherthempod
Oh.
02:18:50
Sabria
Like the living um, so they have the zombies like it's like 1950 style and I love like 1950 style things um, and it's um about a family they Who they're like the only family in the block that does not have a zombie the dad's like I don't want a zombie like we're not gonna get it in them like everybody has one like we need to get one um They get a zombie
02:18:51
gatherthempod
Okay.
02:18:57
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm.
02:19:16
Sabria
um And the zombie like, you know changes their lives like for the better um I don't want to give too much in the way but the mom is like it's like she's lost herself but then like she finds like a Sense of like happiness like when they get the zombie, but I really like that movie um I feel like it's like what the inside of my brain looks like.
02:19:38
gatherthempod
I'm screaming.
02:19:40
Sabria
That's why I love it so much. It's like I it's so bizarre and wacky and like when I watched it when I was younger I just like enjoyed it because the aesthetic but like when I got older and watched it I realized like it's like cat what kept and I found out what capitalism was like I realized like that's what like a zombie apocalypse would be like under capitalism like they would be like oh we actually can use these people for like something so yeah they use them
02:20:04
gatherthempod
Right.
02:20:05
Sabria
It's like, they I think the thing is called like Zomcorp, like they have them like basically being made slash pets for them.
02:20:12
gatherthempod
Oh, that's interesting.
02:20:13
Sabria
So yeah, it's an indie horror movie.
02:20:13
gatherthempod
Okay, i' might I'm gonna watch that. That's okay. I'm gonna watch that. That sounds like pretty interesting. Um, Okay. That's a good, that's a good lineup though of horror
Nightmare on Elm Street's Psychological Elements
02:20:24
gatherthempod
movies.
02:20:24
gatherthempod
I feel like for me, um, movies that have like resonated, I think for me have been, um, a nightmare known shoots been a big one because there's something I love the way in which, and I think this is partly what got me into like,
02:20:33
Sabria
Hmm, yeah.
02:20:38
gatherthempod
psychology and social work. But I love the way in which like Freddie appears in your dreams and you just can't like you have to sleep.
02:20:44
Sabria
Ciao! Yes!
02:20:47
gatherthempod
You have he would have got me.
02:20:47
Sabria
No for real! He would-
02:20:49
gatherthempod
He would have got me. He would have got me because I have to go to sleep.
02:20:54
Sabria
Save!
02:20:56
Sabria
And I be napping my ass off.
02:20:58
gatherthempod
Yeah, he would have got us. Yeah, and it would have been, and that just would have been that. But there's just something that feels frightening about like not being able to go to sleep.
02:21:11
gatherthempod
And then there's this whole, there's like this guy that's like, you find out all this stuff about him of like he used to harm children. And um I think they didn't say you this specifically in the franchise, but I think he did like sexually abuse children.
02:21:25
Sabria
Yeah, they didn't.
02:21:29
Sabria
Yeah, that's what they were going to go. I watched a three-hour documentary on Nightmare on Elm Street.
02:21:34
gatherthempod
Okay.
02:21:35
Sabria
They took it off Netflix.
02:21:36
gatherthempod
Period.
02:21:36
Sabria
I don't know why. But um but yeah, they um that was like ah something that they were like going to go towards.
02:21:42
gatherthempod
Mm
02:21:43
Sabria
Then they were like, ah, no.
02:21:45
gatherthempod
-hmm.
02:21:46
Sabria
um But yeah, that was um something that was like, they like it wasn't out-released, but it was like hinted at.
02:21:54
gatherthempod
And I think what's interesting about that is like, even though it's not as hinted at, it's like, it's very believable. Cause it's like, why are you so obsessed with these kids?
02:21:59
Sabria
Oh, yeah.
02:22:01
gatherthempod
Like this is weird.
02:22:02
Sabria
And what it makes sense of why they like burnt him.
02:22:06
gatherthempod
Yeah, exactly. Um, so that one stood out to me, I think as a psychology ish major of like understanding the way in which dreams work and the brain and the subconscious and all of these like big, um, like ideas.
02:22:20
gatherthempod
So I think that that's what really interests me about it. And I love Nancy, like she's a really great final character. art She really deserved what, um, what was her name?
02:22:25
Sabria
She is.
02:22:29
gatherthempod
God damn. Um, Jamie Lee, she deserves what Jamie Lee got.
02:22:33
Sabria
She do. She does.
02:22:34
gatherthempod
She really do.
02:22:35
Sabria
She does.
02:22:35
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:22:36
Sabria
She's a fantastic final girl.
02:22:38
gatherthempod
Yeah, she I think she deserved what she what she got, the treatment she got.
Analysis of 'Pearl' and Personal Growth
02:22:42
gatherthempod
um Another movie that stood out to me or something that I think has resonated with me and it's recently has been Pearl because of how And I watched this like YouTube, is this is YouTube video about how like famous people often or people that desire fame often have trauma histories. And I was like, that's interesting because if you because in the video they talked about Lady Gaga in a way in which she really had wanted to
02:23:12
gatherthempod
become famous in a way in which she like was bullied her whole life.
02:23:16
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
02:23:16
gatherthempod
And now she's in this space where she's famous, but she's still like maybe feels like she talks about like, you know, being this big mega pop star, but still being insecure and like what that's like.
02:23:25
Sabria
Yeah.
02:23:26
gatherthempod
And I feel like Pearl was very much this like, what happens when you have potential of like of or this dream that you're like set on.
02:23:38
gatherthempod
But we never really see her like practicing like in the movie. like she's never
02:23:42
Sabria
No. Oh, yeah I never thought about that.
02:23:43
gatherthempod
like like you never like It's just this idea that like you can almost like manifest this thing to happen. And she didn't even though they they had the girl they wanted to pick,
02:23:55
gatherthempod
But like you never see her really like work towards it, even though she really wants it.
02:23:59
Sabria
Yeah.
02:24:01
gatherthempod
And um that's why I think I haven't seen Maxine yet. But I'm really interested to see Maxine, because even though people are saying it's not great, I'm really interested to see if Maxine does what Pearl couldn't do.
02:24:04
Sabria
Neither have I.
02:24:14
Sabria
Mm, that makes sense.
02:24:15
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:24:16
Sabria
That makes sense. But yeah, she did it. And like, when I finally saw the movie and I saw what she did, and she was like, I'm a star. I'm like, girl, that hokey ass dance.
02:24:25
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:24:27
Sabria
I was like, what?
02:24:28
gatherthempod
Oh my God. I'm dying because she really thought she ate that.
02:24:33
Sabria
She really did.
02:24:34
gatherthempod
She really did.
02:24:35
Sabria
I could not believe when I saw that. And I'm like, this is what she said I'm a star to?
02:24:40
gatherthempod
I'm a star. I will say the phrase that got me motivated and why I think I really pushed myself this over the past year was the, um, I will not accept the life I do not deserve, but I think that was from X when she or was X.
02:24:53
Sabria
Yes, yes. that there I think that what there was X, yeah.
02:24:55
gatherthempod
Yeah. That was Maxine, yeah, so.
02:24:57
Sabria
Also, the director writer-director went to my school. Shout out to him.
02:25:01
gatherthempod
Period, shout out. but Wait, that was T-Wass?
02:25:04
Sabria
Yep, he went to SBA.
02:25:05
gatherthempod
Oh, shout out T-Wass.
02:25:07
Sabria
Yeah.
02:25:08
gatherthempod
Shout out, oh my God, we love that. I love that series so far too. like I don't care what anyone says. like I loved X, I love Pearl, I probably love Maxine. i i just I like movies.
02:25:19
Sabria
I want to see Maxine.
02:25:21
gatherthempod
Yeah, I just feel like I can find things in media and movies that are interesting or things that I'm like, okay, like I can see why people don't like this, but this is actually pretty interesting to talk about because,
02:25:33
Sabria
yeah and I um so it's funny because by watching Pearl is how I realized that I have grown like sometimes I'm like oh I haven't grown that much because like the old me would have been like I relate to her straight up like this is like I'm like straight up I relate to her and like when I so watched the movie I felt like no connection to her at all like I just like it was like it was like
02:25:38
gatherthempod
mm-hmm.
02:25:48
gatherthempod
Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. Yes.
02:25:57
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:26:00
Sabria
alien to me almost like the character that she was I'm like I really don't get it and it's like I'm like oh wow like the meds are working working out is working like the the the exercises in my therapist like told me like it's working I'm like because I have no like I do not relate and I felt like that also when I watched um when I watched uh what is it um birds of prey
02:26:02
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:26:09
gatherthempod
Yes. Yes. Right.
02:26:25
Sabria
um because like Harley Quinn and like pe and characters like Pearl are like characters that I'm like straight up I relate to but I'm like when I watched Pearl I'm like I don't really feel it I don't and I'm like wow I cannot believe this movie is what made me realize like I have like healed well I'm healing like I'm healing
02:26:25
gatherthempod
Mm hmm. Yes.
02:26:40
gatherthempod
I've grown. Yeah. Yes, it's a journey. Yes.
02:26:45
Sabria
yeah so so i was just like whoa is this is crazy learning this from horror so i'm like that's how my heart is not just like scary killer i'm like it's really so many things that you just learn from it.
02:26:48
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:26:56
gatherthempod
It is. And this is like a movie that's not necessarily, it has a different, it's different than X. Like X does have that more like insidious traditional horror theme.
02:27:06
Sabria
yeah mm hmm.
02:27:07
gatherthempod
And this is a little bit more in your face where she's like literally losing her mind on his farm. And though it's crazy cause this came out during like around the time of World War I or but I mean, not came out, but like,
02:27:23
gatherthempod
the plot of the movie is during like World War I and around the time of the Spanish flu, which is so interesting because like in the movie they're wearing like masks and stuff like that, which was like so parallel to us going through the pandemic.
02:27:25
Sabria
Yeah. Hmm. Yeah.
02:27:38
gatherthempod
And I thought that that was like really an interesting way to almost like show these parallels of like almost like a hundred years later of like where we're at now versus like, you know, this character a hundred years ago was like,
02:27:46
Sabria
Yeah.
02:27:53
gatherthempod
you know, on this farm with her mom and like, you know, even though it's fake, but like, you know, she's on her on this farm with her mom. She wants to like, get out of this and her mom is like, girl, you just like her mom saw it and she just was like, girl, you're not going to be that girl.
02:28:04
Sabria
but
02:28:07
gatherthempod
Like she literally knew that she wasn't going to be the girl.
Comedy Horror and John Waters
02:28:10
Sabria
She like, girl, you better attention them chickens because you ain't got it.
02:28:10
gatherthempod
She said you tried it. She said you ain't got it. um But yeah, so it was that that one. Also, um Serial Mom was really good.
02:28:22
Sabria
Oh, yes.
02:28:22
gatherthempod
I love that movie. so I love like a good like comedy horror sometimes.
02:28:26
Sabria
Yes, yes, yes.
02:28:27
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:28:28
Sabria
Cause I feel like that definitely probably is considered a slasher. um I got to see the exhibit, the John Waters exhibit when I was in LA and I got to see like the, the um serial mom, like her outfits and everything like that.
02:28:32
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:28:36
gatherthempod
Jealous.
02:28:40
Sabria
I was just like so excited, but yeah, that is definitely a good one.
02:28:44
gatherthempod
See, this is why I can't wait to go to LA or move to LA, because I feel like they got everything.
02:28:48
Sabria
Right? Cause I'm like, I went there in December and it was just like a John Waters exhibit and I freaking love John Waters. So I'm just like, oh, it's amazing.
02:28:55
gatherthempod
Period. Yeah, we love John Waters on this podcast.
02:28:58
Sabria
Oh, that reminds me of topic. I'm seeing him in December for a very John Waters Christmas in my ticket.
02:29:03
gatherthempod
Oh, where's that at?
02:29:06
Sabria
You know what? I don't even know where to say it. I just bought my ticket. I literally just bought my ticket.
02:29:12
gatherthempod
You just said I'm going.
02:29:12
Sabria
I literally don't know where to say it.
02:29:15
gatherthempod
I know that's right.
02:29:16
Sabria
It's so silly. That's all I know. The tickets are on sale right now, but I don't even know where venue it is.
02:29:18
gatherthempod
Okay. Okay.
Influential Horror Films Discussion
02:29:23
Sabria
I'll text it to you.
02:29:23
gatherthempod
That's, no, that's so funny because I'm the same way with stuff now. I'm just like, y'all be there, but I don't know where it's at. And then it'll be so crazy. It'll be the day of, and I'll be like, how do I get there?
02:29:34
Sabria
Yeah, I'm like...
02:29:35
gatherthempod
Like, where am I at? Where am I going? Like, what am I like? I literally just be like, oh, I'm going. And then it's just like, you just go.
02:29:40
Sabria
Yeah, I got no clue, but I got my ticket though.
02:29:42
gatherthempod
I know that's right. Period. Um, I think that's, so it's those three, I feel like there's other movies that have been like very inspirational or like have stuck with me. Oh, Hereditary is another one. That's ah another big one. Um, and I think that that one is, I kind of talked about it earlier with the ways in which the family dynamic is. Um, but I.
02:30:05
gatherthempod
And I think that that's what stands out to me in horror is the ways in which, like, the characters kind of relate to each other and how, like, sometimes these, like, really big issues that aren't talked about start to spiral into, like, mess.
02:30:23
Sabria
yeah.
02:30:23
gatherthempod
And I love that in horror movies. It's kind of like, in a way, the Barbarian felt like that in a little bit because of how
02:30:31
Sabria
Oh that's a good one, that is a good one.
02:30:32
gatherthempod
That's a good one, too, because ah it starts out like this one way and it's like, you know, things are kind of weird and kind of off. And then as you start to descend into this house, like things almost the same way of um Silence of the Lambs, as you start to descend into this house, like as you go down, everything gets worse.
02:30:54
Sabria
Cause I'm like, cause in me, I'm like, oh, the, you gotta worry about the, um, bill scars or I'm like, he the killer whole time.
02:30:59
gatherthempod
Yes. He the killer. Whole time.
02:31:03
Sabria
He wasn't how I was, cause that's me.
02:31:04
gatherthempod
Whole time. It was...
02:31:07
Sabria
I'm always skeptical of somebody.
02:31:09
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:31:09
Sabria
So I'm like, I would have been like, uh, nah.
02:31:12
gatherthempod
Yup. And then it just got worser and worser. From there on out.
02:31:17
Sabria
Definitely got worked that what were my that also reminds me. I don't know if you've seen it. There's two versions there is I don't know is i don't if it's Swedish and then they just have an English version.
02:31:28
Sabria
um Goodnight mommy um is a good one.
02:31:29
gatherthempod
Oh, I've not heard of that. Okay.
02:31:31
Sabria
And it's about um this woman who gets plastic surgery. um She has two twin boys. um I haven't seen it in a while but it's a good like psychological thinking about like the bigger picture things that but yeah, that's a good one.
02:31:43
gatherthempod
Hmm.
02:31:45
Sabria
It's very slow though.
02:31:47
gatherthempod
Okay.
Podcast Conclusion and Future Plans
02:31:49
gatherthempod
I'm glad you told me because slow movies be like, I'd be like, all right now, but then when it pick up, I'd be like, let's go.
02:31:52
Sabria
I know I'd be like, um,
02:31:54
gatherthempod
And then when they start picking up, that's when I'm locked in. So, okay. All right. Well, let's get ready to end here. Um, but I really enjoy having you on the show and
02:32:06
Sabria
I'm like, I will definitely come back. Like this was a good check for real.
02:32:08
gatherthempod
definitely come back because we can talk about some more. We could talk about horror all day. um Honestly, like it's just so much fun. It was just so much fun having you on the show. um So we do this. So in my closing segment, I just want to kind of ask you what's next. And we do kind of like a segment. Well, I do. I say we, but like it's literally me.
02:32:28
gatherthempod
what
02:32:30
Sabria
YouTubers do that. I'm so used to it.
02:32:31
gatherthempod
I literally
02:32:32
Sabria
ah I watch YouTube, so I'm used to that.
02:32:35
gatherthempod
I'd be like, we, and I'm like Jerome, like it's literally just you, like what the fuck? um But yeah, so I do a segment called The Gathering. And so it kind of just talks about like, or it's just a manifestation kind of segment of gathering like what you, like, what do you want um to happen? Like, what are you, what are some things you're hoping for? um What are some things you're maybe working on now? um Just talk about whatever you feel comfortable talking about.
02:33:04
Sabria
okay so um what i have um cooking up now um i have been getting back into writing this year um my goal is um within the next like year or two like have a show that's being looked up
02:33:15
gatherthempod
Per.
02:33:24
Sabria
it looked at and in the process of being a pilot and so that would be like my hopes to get a show on TV or even like a film because I have like, excuse me, ah I'm gonna say I'm not gonna talk about it one ear but I have a horror movie that I'm writing that I'm very passionate about.
02:33:29
gatherthempod
Okay.
02:33:35
gatherthempod
Per.
02:33:42
Sabria
I'm very excited about um so that or like the other um like my thesis film that I did in college like that being picked up so I have like four projects that like hopefully in the next two years or so not in might not be all four because I know how the industry is if just one out of four I would be happy with it um so yeah in the next two years hopefully i'm uh you know working in hollywood um doing indie films or you know doing something in tv have something picked up um another thing is um probably very boring but um reading i need to get i read a book this summer but i need to hop back into it for the fall um i love cuddle nut with a good juicy book
02:34:04
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:34:32
Sabria
Um, so yeah, so getting back into that, um, reading also, um, random, but I'm doing a run in November.
02:34:32
gatherthempod
Yes.
02:34:41
Sabria
Um, ah I almost forgot, but yeah, I'm doing a run in November.
02:34:41
gatherthempod
Oh yes, I forgot about that. Yes.
02:34:46
Sabria
So I'm trying to focus on, um, for yeah, they be closing this.
02:34:46
gatherthempod
I couldn't sign up in time, child.
02:34:50
Sabria
so I forgot how much I paid for it. I just know I got, that's another thing. You gotta pay for everything.
02:34:54
gatherthempod
Yeah.
02:34:55
Sabria
Y'all know you got paid to run?
02:34:55
gatherthempod
You gotta pay for everything.
02:34:57
Sabria
That's why that broadsheet run, when it started raining, I said I got to finish this.
02:35:00
gatherthempod
two
02:35:01
Sabria
I paid almost $80. I got to finish.
02:35:03
gatherthempod
You gotta finish.
02:35:04
Sabria
I said I got to finish. I paid $76. I'm like, I got to finish.
02:35:09
gatherthempod
No, yeah.
02:35:09
Sabria
So yeah, training for that. And then hopefully some more runs. So like, I'm just like, trying to focus. And also, I have my podcast.
02:35:19
gatherthempod
Yeah. Yes, I was gonna say, talk about your pie, guys.
02:35:21
Sabria
Um, that yeah, I'm trying to have my podcast, um, actually recording tomorrow, um, for my podcast.
02:35:27
gatherthempod
Per.
02:35:28
Sabria
Not sure what we're going to talk about yet, but, um, but yeah, so things with our podcast, um, we are incorporating video as well. Um, so yeah, working on that.
02:35:40
Sabria
So yeah, just like my creative endeavors, my fitness endeavors. So that's what I'm just like working on now. And like my manifestation is like having a show picked up within the next year or two.
02:35:51
gatherthempod
Period we love to see it and I know you're gonna do it cuz like you ah when you I remember you were talking about your script um That you your thesis that you did and how like passionate you were about it And I was like I can't wait to see what it is cuz I don't even know what it is yeah Yes
02:36:07
Sabria
I'm so, I am so excited about my thesis. It's like, that's literally my baby, my thesis story. That is my baby. I'm so excited.
02:36:18
gatherthempod
okay Um, and then where can, um, the folks find you, um, on socials, where can they find like black girl brunch, like all of this stuff.
02:36:30
Sabria
so i'm it's franken femme on instagram and tiktok and franken femme underscore on x family known as sweater and and um black girl brunch um we are blk girl brunch on x and we are um black girl brunch on Instagram and tiktok also. That's my first time doing it by myself. Iman usually says that. So okay.
02:37:02
gatherthempod
It'd be so funny when y'all like mix it up because like, or when y'all, you know, are like struggling to get it together with the handles because you can't, well, one is like, you have to tailor it to whatever the app is or whatever.
02:37:14
Sabria
Yes.
02:37:15
gatherthempod
And then also like people be having your handle and you'd be like, well, what the, like, how did that happen?
02:37:21
Sabria
Yeah, because I'm like, is it? But I know I want XSBLK girl brunch because I made the Twitter, Iman made the Instagram.
02:37:25
gatherthempod
Yeah. Okay.
02:37:28
Sabria
So I think that's probably why I'll be like forgetting like, um but yeah, we are.
02:37:32
gatherthempod
Yes, I'd be forgetting all the time. I'd be worried. I get mixed up. I'd be like, follow me, I gather them pod at gmail dot.com. I'd be like, wait a second. Hold up. That's not right.
02:37:41
Sabria
All went on Gmail, it's crazy.
02:37:43
gatherthempod
Follow me on a Gmail is crazy. Oh, my God. um Yeah, I've mixed that up. I used to mix that up a lot. um And also, I have to have you on the podcast because I literally.
02:37:53
Sabria
Yes, double trouble.
02:37:56
gatherthempod
Yes, it's good. Listen, we can have a ball.
02:37:58
Sabria
Yes, we usually we record on Sunday now um and we both off on the weekend so probably like Saturday will probably be like the best for us.
02:37:58
gatherthempod
It's going to be so much fun.
02:38:07
gatherthempod
Okay.
02:38:08
Sabria
Yes.
02:38:08
gatherthempod
I know for me, I like, because I'm so busy, I just like open my schedule up and I'm like, we just going to fit you out wherever we can fit you. So whatever you tell me, I'd be like, what ah if you can fit into the schedule on this day, then we're going to record on this day.
02:38:22
gatherthempod
We want to just do it.
02:38:23
gatherthempod
Cause I like weekdays is hard, but I'll be, I'll be conjuring the strength.
02:38:23
Sabria
Yeah, i but on the weekdays, my brain.
02:38:27
Sabria
Woo!
02:38:29
gatherthempod
I'll be on, that's when I have to get my rebel. Like that's what I have to get the rebel and then be jittering and like, and jumping and stuff. So, um, but yeah, you can follow me on the socials, I gather them pod on, um, Instagram on X formerly known as Twitter.
02:38:48
gatherthempod
I need to make a tick tock as well. Um, now that I think about it.
02:38:50
Sabria
Yes, because I'm enjoying your TikTok. So please get in your TikTok era.
02:38:53
gatherthempod
Yes. And I feel like, and that's what I would do. I probably would like put podcast clips on like there and like, and you really get on my tick tock bag, but
02:39:00
Sabria
Yes.
02:39:02
gatherthempod
I really love, I love TikTok and I feel like I'm at a good space now where I feel I have a healthy relationship with it.
02:39:11
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
02:39:11
gatherthempod
Like I don't, I'm not scrolling endlessly on it.
02:39:13
Sabria
Mm-hmm.
02:39:15
gatherthempod
Yeah. So I feel it and I'm starting to learn how to use it.
02:39:17
Sabria
Perfect.
02:39:18
gatherthempod
So that's millennial period. All right. Well, that's it for this week's episode, but yeah, if you guys also, oh, lists are letters gather them pod at gmo.com.
02:39:30
gatherthempod
Um, Therapist here. So if you want some free advice, you know, let me know Beyond I'm trying to think if there's anything else. I think that's it from me anything from you Okay, all right, well we won't get out of here but it's been fun though Yes, all right, well I will talk to everyone later peace out Girl Scouts All
02:39:41
Sabria
Nope, that's all for me.
02:39:46
Sabria
Yes, so fun.
02:39:57
gatherthempod
right