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When Love Outlives Life: Inside the Hidden World of Pet Farewells
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How do you heal when the one who gave you unconditional love is gone?
In this episode of The Glam Reaper Podcast, Jennifer Muldowney goes beyond grief to uncover the new ways people are reshaping how we say goodbye to our pets — from compassion, creativity, to community.
Adam Greenbaum, founder of Love Baxter, shares the raw story of losing his dog Baxter and realizing how unprepared the world is for pet loss. His experience led him to build a first-of-its-kind digital resource that helps pet parents make informed, heartfelt decisions during one of life’s hardest moments.
Dr. Paula Rivadeneira, the heart behind Old Souls Animal Rescue, brings light to the overlooked — senior and special-needs pets who often lose their homes when their owners pass away. Through humor, honesty, and deep empathy, she shows what true devotion looks like, one rescue at a time.
John, founder of Ever After Art, introduces a striking form of remembrance — transforming ashes into luminous crystal artworks that carry the chemistry and soul of every beloved companion. It’s grief turned into art, loss turned into legacy.
This episode isn’t just about saying goodbye. It’s about discovering the many ways love continues to live on.
Key Topics:
-Healing the heartbreak of pet loss
-Redefining compassion in end-of-life care
-Honoring pets through art and remembrance
-Giving forgotten animals love and dignity
-Finding connection and meaning through grief
Quotes from the episode:
"My dog didn’t die — my son died. He was the love of my life."
-Adam Greenbaum
“When someone loses a pet, it’s not just loss — it’s losing a heartbeat that follows you everywhere.”
-Paula Rivadeneira
“We take just a teaspoon of ash and turn it into crystal — a unique, one-of-a-kind artwork that carries the essence of your pet’s soul.”
-John
Timestamp:
[00:00] Podcast Intro
[00:21] Jennifer sits down with Adam Greenbaum, who shares the moving story behind Love Baxter, an online resource created to help grieving pet owners find guidance, compassion, and community during one of life’s hardest goodbyes.
[13:55] Jennifer meets Dr. Paula Rivadeneira, founder of Old Souls Animal Rescue, to talk about caring for senior and special-needs animals, the emotional reality of pet loss, and how her TikTok community inspires support for forgotten pets.
[18:33] Jennifer chats with John from Ever After Art, exploring how he transforms pet ashes into mesmerizing crystal artworks, a unique and healing way to preserve the spirit and memory of beloved companions.
[29:52] Outro
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Transcript
The Emotional Bond with Pets
00:00:00
Speaker
Pets are no longer just our pets. Yeah. You know, when I when i talk about Baxter, my dog didn't die. My son died. Yeah. It's really real. He's my he's my the love of my life, this dog. And I say that.
00:00:21
Speaker
Hi everyone and welcome to another episode of the Glam Reaper podcast. I'm your host, Jennifer Muldaney, aka the Glam Reaper. And on as today's episode, we are as we're in San Antonio at the International Association of Pet Cemeteries and Crematoriums. I've probably got that a bit Irish ways, but it I-A-O-P-C-C.
00:00:43
Speaker
And we're here in San Antonio and we're meeting all these and incredible veterinarians. as There's a lot of water cremation, there's cremade regular fire cremation, yeah but a lot of crematorium owners and some cemetery owners as well. So I hope you enjoy this episode. Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of The Glam Reaper. I am your host, ah Jennifer Muldaney, aka The Glam Reaper.
00:01:05
Speaker
And i am actually at a Pet
Introducing Love Baxter
00:01:08
Speaker
convention. A little bit unusual today, but I'm here at a pet convention in San Antonio. It is hot as balls, are but you know, so I guess it is kind of funny that we're at a pet convention, cremation convention. Anyway, I digress. I have here with me the lovely Adam, who I am very excited to introduce you guys to.
00:01:24
Speaker
and We all know I lost our dog last year. lost We didn't lose her. We put her down and um it's a still bit traumatic for me, but and Adam here also went through this pain, unfortunately, so Yeah. Hey, everyone. How are you? I'm Adam Greenbaum. I'm the founder of a company called Whisker Cloud. So I was in the veterinary space for 10 years and we had 13,000 vet clinics that use us worldwide. And then, yeah, my dog got sick and he passed away in October of last year. And it was it was traumatic. He had three vets.
00:01:55
Speaker
He had a general practice vet, a dermatologist and internal specialist. And he fought for his life for six months, which at the time, which is why i started what I'm doing now, why I'm at this weird, hot as balls conference with you, is that, you know, we didn't realize he was dying.
00:02:10
Speaker
And three different vet hospitals who did amazing medical care never really told us, hey, you're spending all this money and putting him through all this and he's dying. um so you know, as we were going through that and then after he died, we, you know, I'm looking on the Internet to find resources. And then after he died, I was looking. There's just nothing.
00:02:29
Speaker
There's nothing. How's that possible? I work with 13,000 veterinarians around the world. There's no websites where you could find help. There's no resources. i know And it's funny, too. It's like, you probably know about this better than me.
00:02:41
Speaker
I never really dealt with human death. So I was like searching crazy shit about like the afterlife, which I don't believe in. But all of a sudden I'm like searching all this stuff and. It was a mess. Yeah. And for pets and what pets mean to us now, it was just, you know, it was just it was so much.
00:02:58
Speaker
And was so frustrating. And I thought, if I'm a person who knows every vet on Earth and it's this hard, then what's it like for everyone else? So I need to build it to help them. Yeah, I mean, I love that. And they say that that's how, you know, the best ideas, the best businesses come about is you see a ah hole in the market and you fill it.
00:03:15
Speaker
Yeah. So that's what you're doing. um And it's, I mean, we're big fans of pets here at the Glamour River podcast. I've done panel discussions, as you know. I actually just released...
End-of-Life Care for Pets
00:03:26
Speaker
a pet loss guide because we got so many people that were just interested in pet loss, didn't really know how to process it. You know, we used to be in the pet loss business a little bit more than we are now. We're actually getting back into it. Welcome. We need you. and Well, that's it because there is, there's just, people are just wandering around. We just had a conversation there that people are just, they don't know. They don't know what you can and can't do. We unfortunately had to put Roxy and Poppy down and in a hospital, in a sterile cold ass environment.
00:03:54
Speaker
And when I turned to a colleague the other day and I said that I knew a euthanasia vet that does it in the home here in New York, he was like, what? That's even a thing? Why would you want that? I'm like, why wouldn't you want that? If I could have brought my babies home,
00:04:06
Speaker
Game change. You know what? and And I'll say this. It's most people when I talk about Baxter and I say, yeah, you know, and he died in my arms on our couch. They're like, wait, what do you mean on your couch? Yeah. I'm like on our couch.
00:04:16
Speaker
And, you know, and I get a lot of that. Half of them are like, you can do that. Yeah. But the other half are like, why would you want to do that? and But you know what? It's it's. It's hard. There's days I look over and and, you know, and it was like right on the couch in the living room where i used to lay down and it's hard. But then it's also I think about what that final moment could have been. And he wasn't the first pet we lost and the other pets were all sterile. You know, OK, leave their body on the table at the clinic and leave. At least Baxter was home and he didn't have to stress. he't have to go in the car that morning. he got to be surrounded by his people. My wife and i are other dog and cat that he grew up with and his smells, his couch. that's it I mean, it was like literally explaining it to Alejandro yesterday. I said, i was like, you're taking them to a place that they're already terrified. Most pets are terrified going to the They know the route or the route. Sorry, American audience.
00:05:14
Speaker
They know the route and route to the vets and they don't like it. They know where they're going. ok you might give them treats or whatever. So the fact that now their last hour on earth is going to be traumatized, is taking them to a place they don't want to go to. i like That's what I said to him. I was like, I hate that that's what we have to do. I mean, i did a whole TEDx talk on, on put you know, when we put Roxy down.
00:05:35
Speaker
and Like she had a bit of news not food structure in nose. And I mean, yeah it's just every second is priceless. And I think I still... Even looking at the couch, knowing that that was where you lost him, like that's where he went.
00:05:50
Speaker
It doesn't, I don't say it doesn't matter. It matters massively. But there's no matter what, like when we came home from the vets that day, the house was empty. And no matter what, you're always going to look at places. You're going to see their toys. I know. Every corner is them.
00:06:04
Speaker
I know. way We literally just, my wife just was like in a drawer and she found one of Baxter's old hoodies and like his hair was on the inside. I know was, it was hard. Very cute dog, by the way. You guys should look. Oh, he's, yeah. i'm Not as cute as Poppy or Roxy. I mean, of course. Of course. We're not going to get into a battle there.
00:06:19
Speaker
You know what? yeah yeah I'm out of here. No, but he, yeah you know, it was a rough situation. And, you know, and and and we we, I think in the, and um my experiences in the pet world and the vet world, pets are no
The Impact of Pet Loss
00:06:34
Speaker
longer just our pets.
00:06:35
Speaker
Yeah. You know, when I when i talk about Baxter, my dog didn't die. My son died. Yeah. He's really real. He's my, he's my, the love of my life, this dog. And I and I say in front of my wife all the time and she and she always nods like, no, it really was. But, you know, and and well, I don't love the communication around his care and I don't love how we had to say goodbye. I do love that my wife and I were like able to like freeze time in those final 24 hours, put him in a car, took him around the neighborhood, let people and friends say goodbye, took him to the beach and let him just lay in the sand. And, oh you know, and just said, hey, man, like, you know, this is your last day on Earth and he loved laying at the beach. So was let's go.
00:07:10
Speaker
And they know, like, I am convinced as well. They hear us. They know. Like, when you're talking to them, I genuinely think that they understand what we're saying. Oh, yeah. Like, 100%. And I think that day he knew.
00:07:22
Speaker
Yeah. You know, it was. I mean, they say that they do. Well, and he and i you know, we i felt like we talked. Maybe I'm absolutely insane. Yeah. He's just they're all her brain on this podcast yourre fight know like, he was, he was, he was my world, you know? And, and it's, I mean, I, I left my, the company I founded to, to go start Love Baxter because, you know, I know that other people feel that way and, and I, and I want them to have a place where they can find anything they need.
00:07:48
Speaker
And coming back to that, because that's, yeah, you mentioned something earlier when we were just chatting and before this that I thought was really, really important. you were You were saying in the moments where you were making decisions about cremation, you know, private versus communal, but then also you didn't realize the ripple effect of all of that one decision would happen on other. Like you didn't know that you can be, ashes can be turned into a diamond and it can be put into a tattoo and painting and all these different things.
00:08:14
Speaker
And so I guess that's what you're hoping, ah again, by Love Baxter is, is one central place where somebody can go and get informed and get educated and find out Yeah, so we we have about 10,000 pages right now. We launched two months ago. We're trying to add like 15 to 20 pages a day. And honestly, what's great is people go to the site and search and then I get to see what they search. And then I see, okay, do we have enough content for it If we didn't have like 10 pieces of content, we make more based on what they search. So like in the first month, no joke, the top three things were cremation, aquamation,
00:08:49
Speaker
And cancer was, and we have a lot of Johnson around all three, but I thought it was so interesting that number one is cremation because we have content about senior pets and pets with chronic illnesses. You know, there's articles like, so your puppy died.
00:09:01
Speaker
What happened? What to do if your dog has pervovirus? 10 signs your dog is dying. Questions you should ask your vet about, you know, ah the end of your pet's life. What should the cost be?
00:09:12
Speaker
What questions should you be focused on for the euthanasia appointment? How to mentally prepare yourself, how to physically prepare yourself. So, you know, I've just, we have 187,000 keywords that people search on the internet and I'm trying to create 10 pieces of content for all of them. And, yeah you know, and it's, in and I think for everyone out there, knew you and I were talking about it. It's, it's the same for humans.
00:09:33
Speaker
We always think we have more time. Yeah. But I think the thing that's different with humans is, you know, your your parents, your grandparents, whoever can tell you, hey, I'm sick. I'm not feeling well. It's a bad day.
00:09:46
Speaker
If you would ask Baxter if and the universe would have opened, I'm not a religious person, the universe would have opened and said, hey, he can talk for 10 seconds. I don't think he would have said and Dude, I'm dying. I'm sick. He would have said, let's go play. Yeah. So it's like, so the pets, they don't do a good, data well, I don't want to say they don't do a good job i'm telling us, but they do a great job of masking the pain and yeah asking what's going on.
00:10:07
Speaker
it's up to us pet parents to ask better questions, push back really hard on vets, push back really hard on pet end of life specialists and, and, and, you know, be informed. And that's the thing. It's not always about saying yes to every surgery.
00:10:24
Speaker
i mean, there's a panel discussion that, Jessica, we were just chatting with, and a euthanasia vet. There's a panel discussion we did in Greenwood with and another girl, Lauren, and where we just talked about, like, the audience was such an emotionally charged room. it was wild. But, am you know, how did I do an enough?
00:10:40
Speaker
and And just having that reassurance ah from your vet, but also having the education to be able to say to your vet, enough is enough. That here's where I draw the line and and
Society's View on Pet Grieving
00:10:49
Speaker
just knowing all of that, I think is really, really important. And as you said, like pets do, they do mask it. I mean, don't they, so I'm not sure if it's all pets.
00:10:57
Speaker
Somebody yeah can correct me on this, but I know with dogs, like when, when they're ready to go, they actually leave. They don't, they don't want us to see them. It's big cat thing too. Is it? Yeah. the cat And I had a cat for 15 years and like, he like went to the back corner of the closet. And then at the time, like I didn't know, but yeah, yeah that's like a sign where they're like trying to retreat. Yeah.
00:11:16
Speaker
Because they don't want us to see them in pain. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're just incredible creatures. i mean, can we have them rule the world up? and and Well, I mean, like, I'll say this to anyone watching right now because I think this is, like, where it starts, right? So, like, if you have a pet, and that in most cases, like, if you have a big dog,
00:11:31
Speaker
it's like 80 pounds plus they're senior like so six seven years old but no one knows that but if you've got like have boston terriers if you have a boston terrier they're seniors at like eight eight or nine years old so think that's the big thing is like it's on us pet parents to understand when we have a senior pet the questions we need to ask and like you said we need to go push back on the vets and and understand they're at the end of their life i need to treat them differently i need to do things different i need to i need to look into the food i'm giving them But I think that's where our problem is. if If we can't even acknowledge that we have an eight or nine year old pet that is old and sick, like, you know, it's like I have a 15 and a half year old dog at home.
00:12:09
Speaker
It is. I may as well have a hundred and three year old woman. e you know who is this She's my girl. I mean, she's my baby. you know, I love her, but like. She may as well be on her three years old. She's got the Zimmer frame. I i know. And she's a grumpy little shit, but I love her more than life. I promise.
00:12:24
Speaker
actually love when they get grumpy. it Oh, she is even more. She's got her crusty white face, you know, and she's, you know, you know, feed me now. It's just, it's, it's hard. I mean, it's no different than, I think we're at the point now where it's no different than losing a, a, a human in your life. And honestly, like we have content around that. Like, why is it, why does it feel harder to lose a pet than a parent? And by the way, like on Love Baxter, we get probably 25 to 50 messages a day. yeah And so many people say, please help me understand why I'm like crying more about my dog or cat than I did my parents.
00:12:58
Speaker
It's just, it's unbelievable. Well, we yeah we actually did a whole course on pet loss where we actually talk about this, whether you're going through pet loss or you're just wanting to educate yourself, you're working in the funeral space, or you maybe want to get into pet loss. We actually did a whole, so it's a relatively to short course, but just helping people to just understand and just like, I don't know why there's any judgment. There should be no hierarchy of, well, I lost my mom, so therefore I'm grieving more than you losing your dog. Why does there even have to be a hierarchy? Can we just all just be accepting of you're grieving, I'm grieving?
00:13:28
Speaker
I'll just say I did love Baxter than any of you loved your mom. Sorry. He really meant a lot to me, though. On that note, thank you so much, Adam, for joining us. And we wish you the best of luck with Love Baxter. And check it out, people.
00:13:41
Speaker
And we'll leave all the links below. Awesome. And thank you all. You know, appreciate you. Hi guys, and how are you all? We are, as you know, we are at the International Pet Convention, and I met the gorgeous Paula last night, and we had such crack. We had such fun chatting about all things, which we'll get into.
00:13:59
Speaker
Paula, introduce yourselves to everybody and tell them what you do. um my goodness. ah Okay, hi. I am Paula Riva-Denera. Everybody calls me Dr. Paula, and I do a couple of things. So I run a pet funeral home where I do water cremation,
00:14:11
Speaker
I also run a non-profit animal rescue called Old Souls Animal Rescue and Retirement Home, where we take in geriatric special needs and hospice animals. I mean, the babies. The old babies. Very old and crunchy. The old, so crunchy babies. The crunchier, the more I love them. we We just fell in love with all these babies. She was just so showing us so many photos of them.
00:14:31
Speaker
And there's one special one. Oh, boy. Here we go. We're giving her time out. Here we go. Nicole. Poor Cole. Poor Cole. Coley calciferol. Yeah. She's a poor boy. Hashtag hug Cole. Yeah. Start a campaign. I need everybody to give a dollar.
00:14:46
Speaker
wait what was it? We were selling your coloring books. Oh, yes, yes. Coloring books. And Cole is in the coloring book. Yes. So we're going to we're doing a campaign and that we're going to sell these coloring books to get money to get Cole hugs.
00:14:58
Speaker
Oh my God. Because a poor child does not get enough hugs. He does. swear. She thinks we don't hug him enough. Here's why. Tell them why. Okay, here's the thing. I love Cole.
00:15:10
Speaker
He's my Velcro dog. My friends actually call him my furry hemorrhoid. oh He always with me. and Every time I go, oh my God, where's Cole? They're like literally behind you. He's right here. okay now here's the thing we love i know my heart dog died years ago right yeah love her her little heartbeat is right here on my wrist right i held her while i got that tattoo her name was tiny chula i have never loved a dog more than that in my whole entire life and after she died i was so beside myself that even though pole loves me more than anything in the whole entire world i just don't have it in me i can't love him like that and i feel guilty
00:15:47
Speaker
And I feel guiltier because other people are like, but he loves you. Poor unrequited love. call I mean. I love him. I do. And he's just, he's always right here sleeping on my head. It's just. He's always there and I should appreciate him more. I should.
00:16:06
Speaker
Well, it we actually know what you are an incredible person, incredible human being. I know that already from just spending like 24 hours in her presence and just what you do for. No, but really for all you do for all these little like je like geriatric dogs and and cats. And even, you know, when we went for dinner last night, myself and Jessica were even talking more about like, you know,
00:16:25
Speaker
ah euthanasia and went to know and so many of these dogs like if their owner dies then the dog is put into like shelters and like they don't have a life and it is it's awful so what you're doing is incredible and we love it and we're just teasing you about Cole I know it we did have Adam who was all also on this podcast episode ah he definitely is the hashtag safe Cole Oh, my goodness. So this is going be a thing.
00:16:49
Speaker
It is. Yeah. well I think we need to re-home. my God. I'm sure what I said about this thing. Save my dog. Yeah. yeah That's probably when it'll be like, it's like when somebody, you have something, somebody tries to take it away.
00:16:59
Speaker
I'll be devastated. Yes. He does come to work every single day, though. It's not like I ever leave him home. Yeah. Oh, God. that's the thing. We know there's love. We're just, we have to tease everybody. Yeah.
00:17:10
Speaker
But and also, I definitely know the vibe of, like I was brokenhearted when Roxy died, our first dog. But Poppy definitely was my dog. like My soul dog. But all the incredible work that you do. And so you and you do TikTok lives as well. She was nearly going go live. She actually thought she was live. I know, I did. Happy Hour.
00:17:29
Speaker
Yes, things happen during Happy Hour. It was 6 o'clock. ah California well it's really Phoenix time right now we're on Pacific time so 6 o'clock every Thursday night we do a TikTok live for Old Souls Animal Rescue and the handle the TikTok handle is think it's at Old Souls Rescue or at Old Souls Animal Rescue we are going to get the links we're going to leave them all below so tune in at 6pm to the TikTok the live Phoenix do I stuff to Dr. Paula because yeah we definitely need to we're going to support i mean it's just yeah no thank you we need she needs more support. Yes. And they should get the coloring book.
00:18:04
Speaker
and And I have a coloring book. Let's get the coloring book. Let's do it. Guys, let's do Cole is in it. There we go. Save Cole. Oh, Cole. Oh gosh, you're the best. Thank you so much for joining us all. Thank you. so i'm a hug i give mandatory hugs i know i actually loved that she'd become known as you cant go to facility and leave without getting a hole yeah it's dead there we go possible hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the glamour rever podcast i'm your host jennifer muliny aka the glam a reaper and today i have john Now, I'm very intrigued to talk to John. As we all know, I lost Poppy last year. We put her down and i was absolutely a broken hearted over it. But we are, art has been actually something I've always really, really loved. And it's something actually growing into an hu adult as you do.
00:18:52
Speaker
I don't do it as much anymore. And in the last year, I've started to try and incorporate and actually have a hobby that doesn't include work. So for me, I actually, something i always wanted to do, I just am bought a new house as well, is having a piece of artwork of my dogs in my house.
Ever After Art: Memorializing Pets
00:19:09
Speaker
So I'm very intrigued. This is all leading up to John, what do you do in this space? All right. Well, we have a company called Ever After Art and we created a brand new pet memorial.
00:19:23
Speaker
And what we do is we take just a teaspoon full of pet ash. Okay. Mm-hmm. We put it through a chemical process that ultimately turns it into crystals. Okay.
00:19:37
Speaker
And we put polarized light through the crystal. Okay. look at it under a high-powered microscope and take a digital image of it. So therefore, you end up with this beautiful, abstract, very colorful piece of art that is unique to that pet only.
00:19:57
Speaker
That's incredible. So depending on... the conditions that the pet lived in, what they ate in their environment, whatever. After the cremation process, the only thing that's left is the essential chemistry, the um potassium, the calcium, those elements. And that that's what we react to.
00:20:22
Speaker
And that creates this beautiful, one-of-a-kind artwork. Yeah. Well, and for those of us who's who followed for many years, we used to do actually cremation jewellery.
00:20:33
Speaker
And one of the things, and so we fused ashes, we encased ashes in glass and we also fused it with ash, with glass. But what sometimes we would get back is, well, why is, you know, why do they look different? Why are the different colours? But like that, each ash is different. And so when we fuse it with melted glass, it would form its own beautiful, unique piece.
00:20:53
Speaker
And we had no control over it. You know, it just, it was, they were stunning. But so this is really interesting. Okay. Okay. And it's like you said, we don't have control over it. So what you get is what you get because the pet actually created the... We like to say it's the essence of the soul of that pet.
00:21:13
Speaker
Like we say, it's a um snowflake. It's a one of a kind thing. yeah yeah And people seem to light up and really feel connected to it. We've had people say...
00:21:25
Speaker
They come home and they see it on the wall and it feels like they're they're coming home to their loved one. I mean, it's like I in my new home in Florida, like I have photos of Poppy who passed and like I have certain photos of her that yeah is like to me is like the face you to make when I walk in the door. And so just to have that is so what I've actually done and or what I'm currently doing, because I don't have all the time in the world is and I'm going to actually do a whole article and a whole piece on this and is I took my an old photo of Roxy, which was my first dog.
00:21:57
Speaker
I took a current photo of Poppy, my dog that passed last year. I put them together, a you know, I used Photoshop, put them together and I sent it off to this company that does a paint by numbers situation and they sent it back to me. And so because while I did art in school, I'm not qualified to like take a photo of my dog and and do an amazing photo.
00:22:15
Speaker
And I didn't want to like butcher it. I really wanted it to be representative of them. So I'm doing this paint by numbers painting of my two dogs. And just so cathartic. to just be there and to just be doing this. And it's like, it wasn't that expensive. It's, it's just such a good, like, again, finding like, I loved to art, like passionate, you know, and so like bringing all these elements together, but I love this idea. Now, can I ask, um, cause I still haven't, so this is the the one that I'm doing, the paper numbers, it's only this big one. Um, can you get different sizes? And if I like, can you decide on a shade or a color?
00:22:50
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Um, Okay, let's address both of those. So when somebody places an order, they will get a high-resolution digital image ah what lake and that they can use for whatever they want. gotcha Plus we give them an eight by ten printed on an acrylic okay so it looks nice and vibrant and shiny.
00:23:13
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Then you can also upgrade and do different size canvas. So we print on... fine art canvas paper.
00:23:24
Speaker
And so you can either have that framed or you can, so there's many things you can do react with your art, but you own the art. So you can, like I say, you don't have to use us to print.
00:23:35
Speaker
Yes. But it's sweet. We have very reasonable prices on those. Yeah. But, um, so you can do that. And as far as colors go, we don't change anything. Right. So you can't control it. It's all. It's, it's,
00:23:51
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You're getting what you're getting. And we wanted to stay true to this method and not say that a human affected the outcome. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
00:24:03
Speaker
So you get what you get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't had one person after thousands of these yeah come and say that they don't absolutely love it. or Well, because it's their baby. I mean, you know, it's their baby and that's it.
00:24:17
Speaker
It's such a unique idea. um I'm very, anyway, very interested, guys. We will leave all the links below. And so please do check it out. Check out John's. And it was your company, your idea. Yeah. Right from the beginning. Very good. Well, we wish you the best of luck.
00:24:29
Speaker
Great, thank you. And to all the pet parents out there, maybe check it out and and see what, I mean, just to get the digital print, just to have that, you could even get it into a key ring or anything really once you have it. Oh, absolutely.
00:24:40
Speaker
Screensavers and whatever. good Love it. We will, i am I have some footage of the um the stands that are in there at the exhibition hall and and so we will include those in here so you get to see what John is talking about as well. Great.
00:24:53
Speaker
great thank you and that is a wrap on the iaopcc here in san antonio thank you so much for joining us and i think we had some really great guests and it's always really good to touch on pet loss because it is one of the um very disenfranchised g grief that griefs that we we hold in this world and we know that firsthand and so yeah well hopefully you tune in next time thank you so much and we will talk to you again next time
00:25:26
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Thank you.