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Conference Championship Previews and EMERGENCY Jaguars Coach Pod
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The boys break down the drama from the Jaguars coaching search and the announcement of a new coach, and analyze the matchups for the Conference Championship games of the Bills at Chiefs and the Commanders at Eagles.
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Transcript
Mason's Football Weekend Recap
00:00:12
Mason
What is up, everybody? This is Mason with the Next Guy podcast, and I am back, ready to get started.
00:00:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's back.
00:00:20
Mason
ah We had some insane football over the weekend. The guys held down the fort, broke it down. It was some great football. ah We all got together. Just the text threads just blowing up of, we need to have an emergency pod today.
Jacksonville Jaguars Insider Scoop
00:00:35
Mason
So if you're listening to this on a Friday morning, We have someone on this pod not Zach or me that is ready to cook We had some news that was breaking just constant and I still am seeing some things ah And I'm just I'm excited.
00:00:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:00:51
Mason
We will talk about and preview some of the games before we get off the pod, but ah Yeah, we're we're ready.
00:00:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:00:59
Mason
how How are we doing specifically tens? how How's everything going? How you feeling right now?
00:01:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh, it's the top 10 day.
00:01:06
Mason
I?
00:01:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's the top 10, 24 hours.
00:01:07
Mason
Top 10.
00:01:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, yeah, we were going to do a pod and release it Saturday for conference championship weekend. Um, and then, you know, some news, some stuff has happened with the Jaguars in the last 24 hours that, uh, I have been screaming for the happen for a little while now.
00:01:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, and I have some people call out and people to say things about. And so here we are.
00:01:34
Mason
Listen, if our text thread ever gets leaked of some hackers, we might be going viral or canceled, one of the two, I'm not sure, but Tinsley has been super excited about all this.
00:01:41
Zack
yeah
Liam Cohen's Withdrawal and Backlash
00:01:45
Mason
We have breaking news that's not technically broke yet, like it's not even official yet, ah but tend Tinsley, or do you wanna set up what has happened in the past 20, 24 hours, 48 hours maybe?
00:01:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes. True. True. Yeah. Let me,
00:01:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
let me say Let me take you to Monday. Let me take you to Monday. Liam Cohen is supposed to come in for an in-person interview with the Jacksonville Jaguars, his second interview.
00:02:08
Zack
That's fine, that's fine.
00:02:08
Mason
Mm.
00:02:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All indications were he was the favorite to land the job, but Trim Bulky. Trim Bulky was in the way. The Buccaneers, who did not want to lose Liam Cohen, offered him a three-year extension, $4.5 million dollars a year, making him the highest paid coordinator in the league to come back as the OC.
00:02:25
Mason
Eyes paid.
00:02:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But the stipulation was, and we're going to get back to this, that he could not take the second interview with the Jaguars for their head coaching position. They wanted him to say, sorry, I'm withdrawing my name. So that on top of the fact that Liam Cohen told the Jags that he did not want to come into his first head coaching job,
00:02:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
with a GM named Trim Bulky. Why? Because he's a snake, he's a cockroach, he is a bad guy. He
Impact of GM Trent Baalke's Reputation
00:02:54
Mason
Mm.
00:02:54
Zack
Got it.
00:02:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
somehow was about to be hiring his sixth head coach as a GM, the fourth for the Jaguars somehow.
00:03:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So Liam Cohen smartly said, sorry, I'm i'm not gonna take this job with Trim Bulky there. and That was the final straw that broke the back of shad con because after that after Liam Cohen withdrew Shad was dragged through the mud of the internet yeah ESPN NFL Network Everyone was saying this is another example.
00:03:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is another reason why It's crazy that he didn't fire trim bulky two weeks ago when he fired Doug because no one's going to take this job with trim bulky sitting there and finally
00:03:39
Mason
Actually, I think, uh, my sources leaked to that Chad, uh, listened to the next scott podcast and was called a loser idiot doofus by Tinsley and all the name calling.
00:03:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
couple times.
00:03:53
Mason
He was like, you know, you know what I got, I can't do this anymore.
00:03:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:57
Mason
Tinsley's told me fire him and I did it. So
00:04:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He finally listened to me.
Jaguars' Leadership Moves Post-Baalke
00:04:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, it was It was an all day thing. um So that brings us to, so Tuesday, a lot of people were making fun of the Jags, making fun of our owner, making fun of us that we've lost out on Liam Cohen and Ben Johnson now, um that we're gonna end up hiring Robert Salah to be our head coach and everyone's making fun of us. We'll get back to that too here in a second. um So it's bad, it's bad times. Your boy's down bad. I go, I take a nap.
00:04:02
Mason
it only took all season.
00:04:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Morgan wakes me up from my nap after preload and says, tens, they fired you in bulky. Oh boy, things are now cooking. ah Immediately, my head is spinning.
00:04:44
Mason
yeah
00:04:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Things are going.
00:04:47
Mason
Did you think she was messing with you?
00:04:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, I sure did. Because I never i never thought it would happen. and i
00:04:53
Mason
He's like, Oh baby, Christmas morning came again.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:04:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I literally thought Trey Bulkey would have this job forever. then he If he survived this whole ordeal with Doug Peterson and the collapse of the last two seasons and to the two top candidates for this head coaching cycle for our team to turn him down, ah larry yeah he's he whatever kind of magic this guy has, he's good for him, I guess, because we can't get rid of him.
00:05:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah So they did, they fired him, or they respectfully parted ways, as Ian Rappaport put it. That's because him and Trent Bulky are buds. Guess what? He got fired.
00:05:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's what happened. Because he's a loser. And I hope he's in his house right now, crying. Just realizing that he was the reason we didn't have nice things.
00:05:42
Zack
really large house.
00:05:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So then yeah, that brings us to late last night.
00:05:49
Zack
Hmm.
00:05:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And there's some rumors going on that Chad Khan made a phone call to Liam Cohen after firing bulky and said, you're going to have to tell me no again.
Jaguars' Management Chaos Continues
00:06:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're going to have to turn this job down a second time because I'm, I'm willing to bring in a new GM and Chad Khan is very flexible with his pocketbook.
00:06:01
Zack
a Wow.
00:06:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He is, he's willing to pay whatever it takes. The numbers are that he's actually going to, that we're going to pay Liam more than Ben Johnson.
00:06:21
Mason
Saw that.
00:06:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Which is good because Ben Johnson doesn't even know his left from his right when I don't know if you saw his presser But they're like been to your left and he had to do the hand thing like he's in kindergarten My six-year-old knows what her left and right is without doing the hand thing tough Ben Johnson Adam Gates 2.0 been saying it been saying it for a minute um Wrong
00:06:26
Zack
but
00:06:31
Zack
I didn't see that.
00:06:42
Zack
You started after you didn't think he was going to be Jaguar's head coach, though.
00:06:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He was still in the running. He was still in the running. And I said I didn't want him two weeks ago before the playoff debacle happened.
00:06:54
Mason
I know this this is just what happens you blink because tinsley about a month ago he was his number one if that sounds about right yeah that was and now he's like a stupid idiot he doesn't know his left from his right that's how quick it turns calvin redley gets traded and all of a sudden number one hated list whatever it is
00:07:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and I was on Ben Johnson.
00:07:02
Zack
all and
00:07:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then...
00:07:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Am I wrong?
00:07:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He didn't, he didn't get traded, he left. It's not hated. I just, I started just picking up, I started watching, I i've watched the tape on Ben Johnson. I started watching some press conferences, started reading some stuff and I immediately was like, he's a dweeb.
00:07:19
Zack
and
00:07:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not, he doesn't fit the Jaguar, our culture down in Jacksonville.
00:07:26
Zack
It's all a...
Future Speculations for Jaguars
00:07:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I could just tell he's kind of a dweeb and am I wrong?
00:07:35
Mason
No.
00:07:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
his little press conference interview or like video of him walking to the Bears facility like doing his weird awkward clapping and oh he's um dodged a bullet there. But I don't care about Ben Johnson.
00:07:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He coaches the Bears. um Who cares about him? I got my guy.
00:07:52
Zack
Sure.
00:07:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I ah made it known Liam Cohen's my guy for about a month.
00:07:52
Mason
wrote
00:07:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I said on this podcast that he's been my number one for a minute. And it hurt when when when he withdrew his name, when all that happened Monday and Tuesday, I was beginning to feel pretty apathetic to the Jags. like i was like i can't do like I was really about to have to deal with Robert Sala being my head coach this season.
00:08:17
Mason
Now looking like he's going to be defensive coordinator for the 49ers again.
00:08:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:08:21
Mason
So that's how the dominoes fall. Have you seen that yet?
00:08:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah he was well he was supposed he was supposed to fly in tonight for his interview in the morning for the Jags head coaching job and never flew in because Liam has been with Shad all day.
00:08:27
Mason
Yeah.
00:08:39
Mason
So Cohen's demands were basically fire bulky and like back up the, the, uh, the Brink truck and just pay me.
00:08:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
his heat ah Well, the money i don't think I don't think he asked for that much. I don't know the money part, what he asked for. Shad just made it an offer he could, like, Shad is not going to be outbid. You're not gonna, like, money won't be the reason he loses out. It was always Trent. He was never willing to fire Trent. Luckily, Tony Bisselli, Jaguars only Hall of Fame player for now, Fred Taylor's getting in the summer, but Tony Bisselli has gotten involved in the front office. He is taking over as the um executive vice president of football operations with our former assistant GM, Ethan Wall.
00:09:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They finally got in Chad's ear and was like we can't we're never gonna be able to get the candidate that you want That can do what you want to do until we get rid of Trent So that really got the the wheels in motion there.
00:09:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So shout out Tony Bacelli That helped a lot and then so then they just they I Was a little bit mad because he was out here backing up bulky on the radio show Monday saying it wasn't fair to say bulky was the reason we missed out on Ben Johnson and
00:09:44
Mason
weren't you trashing on on twitter
00:09:57
Zack
Clearly somebody thinks it was if he's gone now.
00:09:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But, exactly. So, listen, i Tony needed a little little little tough love. he was He was being a little too chummy with Trent Bulkey the last couple weeks and needed him to to finally realize that he needed to get fired, which he did. So thanks, Tony. um I was also bullying Shad Codson, Tony Khan, about his wrestling company.
00:10:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah That's one of my favorite things to do when we suck or do something stupid or or being embarrassed online I like to tweet at the the son who has not really a ton to do with the Jags.
00:10:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He he runs our analytics department, but uh The adult son, oh yes, he's no well, I mean if he was a child he can catch these Twitter hands too
00:10:36
Zack
Just to be clear, this is an this is an adult son. He's not a child. He said you were bullying his son
Liam Cohen's Potential Return to Jaguars
00:10:47
Zack
on the internet.
00:10:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If you if you got a Twitter account anything's fair game to me
00:10:54
Zack
ah That is not true, and know we're going to walk it out of the back.
00:10:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
for for to be bullied online to be called a doofus or you know, learn ball gamer or whatever else I like to say on their cry harder.
00:11:07
Zack
Okay.
00:11:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's a favorite. um So yeah, so then that brings us to today.
00:11:13
Zack
Hmm.
00:11:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Liam Cohen's gonna be the next Jaguar said coach and the Buccaneer fans are in shambles. These are the same Buccaneer fans that Monday before Liam Cohen withdrew his name were saying they should fire Todd Bowles to replace him with Liam Cohen. That's how much they didn't want to lose him. Now they're saying he's a liar and a snake and how could he go back on saying he was gonna take this contract and then turn around and go back and take the Jags job like And he's overrated and we never wanted him.
00:11:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm like, you guys were making fun of us. The Bucks Twitter was laughing at our faces that we missed out on Liam Cohen. They were saying things like, wow, he'd rather be an OC in Tampa than take the head coaching job with the Jaguars.
00:11:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, guess what, buddies and pals? Where did he end up?
00:12:04
Mason
let's just make it known make the record show it's not had happened yet but when it does when it when it does the uh just wanted to let you know when you bet on the jacks to win the super bowl for 100 your payout is going to be 10 100
00:12:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So.
00:12:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
OK, sure.
00:12:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's going to be let. It's going to, as soon as the news breaks, it's going down.
00:12:26
Zack
so when uh this was all kind of going down i made a comparison to tens to um shiano sunday and tennessee football lure famously the day that uh tennessee fan base revolted against the hiring of greg shiano given that was uh in favor of coach who didn't paint out super well for the vols uh but
00:12:34
Mason
Yes.
00:12:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes. Hmm.
00:12:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's not here nor there.
Implications of Jaguars' Decisions
00:12:52
Zack
A couple years later, we ended up with a good coach, finally. It was it's kind of the power of of the people to stand up against incompetent administration. So shout out to the Jaguars for for joining the halls of greatness.
00:13:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes.
00:13:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I think that's that's why I'm like, really, i' I'm happy.
00:13:06
Zack
um
00:13:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tony Bisselli finally got into a position in the front office because he he hears what the fans say. He like he has a pretty good gauge of like where we're at and what we want.
00:13:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um And so I think that was the final straw. I think once there was another public turn down of the job because no one wants to work with Trent Bokeh, I think they finally realized like, hey, we got to do something or else we're legitimately not going to have people at this stadium next year.
00:13:34
Zack
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
00:13:38
Zack
If people are like turning away and literally just being like, this is a good job, but I don't like your GM, so sorry.
00:13:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right, I think that and that's where exactly and I think that's why I think the minute that you fire the GM and now you get the guy you want like it shows that this was a good job.
00:13:46
Zack
That's pretty bad. OK.
00:13:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If we would have done this two weeks ago, I think we would have had to choose between Ben Johnson and Cohen like we would have gotten the pick.
00:14:01
Zack
Yeah.
00:14:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um But instead we I don't love I said this in the text earlier I don't love that how we got here the path was bad like it It was a debacle it made us look like a circus clown show with trim bulky for the last two weeks
00:14:16
Mason
Do you have more gray hair because of it?
00:14:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:14:18
Mason
Probably stress.
00:14:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was pretty, uh, yeah, I was pretty mad. There was, yeah, a lot of anger, um, in the beginning of the week. Um, but if it ends up us getting a new GM, who is finally a lockstep with our head coach, cause that's what keeps happening is we keep firing the head coach and then we, and we have the same GM and it's never, they're never a team and I'm, and I'm all for when you hire someone.
00:14:34
Mason
Mmm.
00:14:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If you're gonna clean house clean house and make it them come together Don't hire a GM and let him inherit a coach and don't have a coach who inherits GM because they're never gonna be on the same page They just aren't Yes, yeah um Yeah, Kyle Shanahan Kyle Shanahan got to pick his GM
00:14:53
Mason
Yeah, question. ah Did you see the reports where ah Liam Cohen will also choose the next GM? Does that ever happen?
00:15:03
Mason
and hit like does that happen usually like I don't know. like I'm asking a legitimate question of a head coach getting to pick. Okay.
00:15:13
Mason
Okay.
00:15:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And for the most part, it's they um pick. it's It's a guy that you have a relationship with that you've worked with before, like Dan Campbell and the Lions GM. They had worked together for a long time. um Aaron Glenn, his GM that's coming in with him from Washington to the Jets, like they've worked together for a long time. So that's it.
00:15:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There the media is going to say that word. He's going to get the handpick because people want to paint. Liam is like a bad guy now because what he did to the Bucks. Oh, the poor Buccaneers. Oh, wait, wait, wait.
00:15:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So.
00:15:53
Zack
Okay, I have a couple of questions for 10.
00:15:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes.
00:15:56
Zack
Number one.
00:15:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:15:59
Zack
What would you say to someone who says that it seems like Liam Cohen uses jobs as stepping stones to get to better jobs down the road?
00:16:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's great. What's the better job than being an NFL head coach?
00:16:13
Zack
I don't know.
00:16:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, that's what he's that's what he's been working for his whole life is to be an NFL head coach. So I'm cool.
00:16:18
Mason
An NFL coach for another organization.
00:16:22
Zack
I didn't realize he'd been, he'd been in Kentucky a couple of times until.
00:16:25
Mason
Ah, yeah.
00:16:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he went to Kentucky, went back to the Rams and then went back to Kentucky.
00:16:30
Zack
Okay. So question number two, um, what, what is making you excited about the Liam Cohen situation?
00:16:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:16:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So he is he is an offensive genius.
00:16:38
Zack
What does he have to offer?
00:16:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That is words from Sean McVeigh.
00:16:45
Zack
Hmm.
00:16:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This he is a he Sean McVeigh has not turned over play calling duties, but only the time that he has is when Liam Cohen was his offensive coordinator. Like he trusted him to call plays. He he builds offenses that fit players schemes and not try to fit players into his scheme. Like he, he's just great offensively. So I would love to see him get paired up with a good veteran defensive coach and kind of have it like what Sean McVay, when he first took over as the Rams head coach, he was kind of like the head coach of the offense.
Jaguars' Coaching and GM Speculations
00:17:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And what did he have? He had Wade Phillips as his defensive coordinator. And he was like the head coach of the defense where he was like, Hey, I'm a little bit more hands off.
00:17:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm a really lean on this guy to carry the defenses. So I'd like to see that happen with Liam, but I mean, if you hear it, like every quarterback that he's been with, with Liam Johnson or Liam Cohen, he's like, he made Will Lewis look like a first round draft pick.
00:17:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He revived Baker's career in five games with the Rams and got him that contract with the Bucks. And then now it was his ah offensive coordinator this year where Baker was a borderline MVP candidate.
00:17:52
Zack
Huh. Huh.
00:17:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So,
00:17:55
Mason
Man, if you may, we'll have us look that good. Maybe the Titans should have signed them.
00:17:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
well, you already have a head coach, bud.
00:18:03
Zack
Okay, last question attends.
00:18:03
Mason
Maybe we, maybe we'll fire. Yeah, go ahead.
00:18:06
Zack
um Do you have your site set on a GM that you would like to see fill the role?
00:18:12
Mason
Mmm. Good question.
00:18:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. um ja Ray Agnew from the Lions would be someone I would like. He comes from the Rams as well. He's been with the Lions the last couple of years. um But anyone from that Les Snead front office mold I'm cool with. And then there's this guy named Spytech.
00:18:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's his last name. He's technically been hired by the Raiders, but but just like the Raiders, or just like the Bucks, ah he ain't signed his contract yet with the Raiders.
00:18:36
Zack
It's our fake, yeah.
00:18:45
Zack
There we go.
00:18:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And he was Liam Cohen's number one choice. So so if we go and steal him before he signs his contract, if it's him to leave that job, we're public enemy number one of the whole NFL.
00:18:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everybody hates us then. And I don't care.
00:19:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's all about business. The NFL is a business, and I'm trying to have business be booming.
00:19:09
Mason
So who is the the guy from the lines? Is he assistant genius? What's he right now?
00:19:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, Agnew, he's his's assistant GM.
00:19:17
Mason
Okay, you realize they probably would have won the worst weeks in nfl like they got blown out by sevens if not blown out, but they lost to seven seed in the playoff same week They lose their offensive coordinator to the bears their defensive coordinator to the jets and then if they
00:19:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yup.
00:19:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not just that either. Their defensive line coach is now the DC for the Patriots. Their linebacker coach is going to be Aaron Glenn's defensive coordinator.
00:19:40
Mason
That's right.
00:19:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Their offensive line coach, which I don't know if you notice with the Lions, they have the best offensive line in the league.
00:19:44
Zack
Mm.
00:19:46
Mason
Yeah.
00:19:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's about to go be Ben Johnson's offensive coordinator like ah Mark Burnell, the quarterback coach for the Lions.
00:19:49
Zack
Wow.
00:19:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's leaving to go be the OC for Glenn Aaron Glenn. So yeah, the Lions are getting pillaged.
00:19:55
Mason
Hmm.
00:19:56
Zack
Team just got blown up.
00:19:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tough.
00:20:00
Zack
I had one chance.
00:20:01
Mason
Am I I'm not even kidding.
00:20:02
Zack
Lost the commanders.
00:20:03
Mason
You can't handle that many changes. Am I might literally the second totals win totals? I'll take the under no matter what the number is That's a hot take maybe I don't know There you go No matter what it is before it sounds like Zach when he talks about Notre Dame losing or missing the playoffs I'll take it no matter what it is.
00:20:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, I don't hate it.
00:20:11
Zack
Mm.
00:20:17
Zack
Taking the under no matter what it is, he says.
00:20:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No matter what.
00:20:23
Zack
he
00:20:27
Zack
I'll take it again next year.
00:20:30
Mason
I frauds, even though they were just in the championship game, still frauds.
00:20:31
Zack
Consider it taken. I don't trust them.
00:20:36
Mason
Okay. Tens. How do you, do how do you feel? You feel better?
00:20:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:20:40
Mason
You feel good?
00:20:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I feel good if we would have recorded this Wednesday um I Would have been down bad ah well yeah, cuz that was no we fired bulky so I Am
00:20:45
Mason
Oh man. If only.
00:20:46
Zack
We've been in some good content as well, just different.
00:20:48
Mason
Yeah.
00:20:54
Mason
I was still in the Bahamas at that time. So.
00:20:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I really love, I love Liam Cohen before he decided to switch back to us because he got bulky fired.
00:20:59
Zack
That's true.
00:21:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Him just saying, sorry, but no, thanks. I don't want to work bulky was enough to get him fired.
00:21:06
Zack
true
00:21:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So just in my head, and like
Liam Cohen's Name Debate
00:21:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was cool. I was like, Hey, you know what, Liam Cohen, I'm a big fan of you. Thank you for, for at least doing that for me.
00:21:16
Zack
That's what we like to call addition by subtraction.
00:21:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then.
00:21:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, sir.
00:21:20
Zack
And then you had addition by addition. Maybe, hopefully, tomorrow morning.
00:21:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, if the if the contract works out, yeah, as's a so as long as that pin hits that paper.
00:21:26
Zack
You get it in pen.
00:21:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Also, um I need to figure out if um we're saying his name right.
00:21:32
Mason
I also will go ahead.
00:21:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've heard Cone and I've heard Cohen.
00:21:40
Zack
for it Depends on how southern you are.
00:21:42
Mason
Good point.
00:21:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I need to figure, I need to get that nailed down.
00:21:43
Zack
That one feels like a very long.
00:21:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If it's Cone, then it's waffle cone season, where I eat an ice cream.
00:21:48
Zack
Mmm.
00:21:52
Zack
What's Cohen?
00:21:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nothing.
00:21:55
Zack
Oh, it was fun.
00:21:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cohen. Yeah.
Titans' Draft Excitement
00:21:57
Zack
Okay.
00:21:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Less fun. I don't know. I don't have anything cool for that one.
00:22:00
Zack
Nothing. I thought when he said, I thought you had an idea for both.
00:22:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, just cone.
00:22:04
Zack
i'm pretty ah Just in.
00:22:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I just only have one for cone.
00:22:08
Zack
It's ice cream. code
00:22:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yup.
00:22:10
Mason
So when Tinsley needs good luck in a playoff game, he always brings up the chunky monkey.
00:22:12
Zack
Double scoot.
00:22:15
Mason
Now he'll have it in a waffle cone.
00:22:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Strictly out of a waffle cone.
00:22:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Only way out meeting ice cream from now on is out of a cone.
00:22:18
Mason
Yep.
00:22:21
Zack
like that.
00:22:22
Mason
There you go.
00:22:22
Zack
Love that.
00:22:22
Mason
Perfect.
00:22:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So yeah, we're we're fired up over here. well Excitement is back. I'm back.
00:22:28
Zack
Okay, I have some other I have one more take before we get um this is this is Titans talk now.
00:22:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, please.
00:22:37
Mason
Hmm.
00:22:37
Zack
ah tens talked about Tenz famously has a has been kind of erratic with his thoughts on the coaching search. and I feel myself going the same direction here because as soon as I saw the headline that that Titans were probably going to take Cam Ward, I was like, you know, Cam Ward, pretty good football player. Maybe there's something there.
00:23:00
Zack
i Just want to do a quick second because we got the draft coming up ah Titans are number one some news broke this week that it looked like Titans are gonna be eyeing that number one pick with cam Ward potentially Travis Hunter had a pretty was his odds jumped up to which I thought was interesting that both of the odds jumped up significantly um So don't know Mason what are your what are your thoughts on that one?
00:23:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mmhmm.
00:23:16
Mason
Yeah, plus 1000 plus 140. Yeah.
00:23:25
Mason
So his quote was, gen we won't pass up on generational talent, which everybody took that as the definition of generational talent for this standpoint is somebody that's literally playing two sides of the field and is elite or somewhat, at least in college on both sides.
00:23:45
Mason
So that's why his odds jumped up and that came toward still a possibility. You always see that number one.
00:23:49
Zack
His odds jumped significantly too, didn't it?
00:23:53
Mason
I think, yeah.
00:23:53
Zack
Wasn't he, isn't he was like mine with money now?
00:23:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm pulling it up, but at the time it was, um, cam war was minus 200 and then it went shoot or Sanders plus one 40 and then Hunter one 40.
00:23:57
Mason
I think, yeah, I think it moved.
00:24:01
Zack
It's crazy.
00:24:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I do think it has moved. I'm pulling it up.
00:24:08
Mason
And I think a lot of the Shador talk went away because I think the only, I know this sounds silly, but the only way we would actually maybe drafted him was if there was the Dion, like, I think that coaching whole thing is Dunzo, like,
00:24:22
Mason
I think Dion's probably going to be back in college now that the Cowboys moved on. And so like it was one of those things where if Dion had any talks whatsoever with the Titans, or they ended up firing Callahan, you were you were going to see Shador literally be the ons-on favorite. So that's how much it changes. like for me I would like Cam Ward with a different coach.
00:24:46
Mason
I just, I feel like coaching is so important. And just to see them literally train wreck Will Levis. And yes, it could have just been him as well, but it just did not seem like they set him up for success.
00:25:00
Mason
So I don't know what you think Zach. I just really hate to draft him. And then literally they just destroy this guy's career.
00:25:07
Zack
You know, it could happen for sure.
00:25:08
Mason
I just.
00:25:11
Zack
It's hard to tell. As well, I was just bad. it is ah These rookie quarterbacks, it's hard to tell, man. I don't know. In my in my mind,
00:25:22
Zack
Cam Ward drafting a QB number one overall is always going to be just an absolute gamble, like pure gambling. You never know what you're getting with with a quarterback.
00:25:33
Zack
that's coming from college, even if they're at a big school, but at Miami with kind of the team around him, who, like truly, who knows? Is it a gamble that's worth it? Maybe. Will Travis Hunter be a be an incredible NFL? He'll probably play both ways for some teams somewhere, at least some. Will he be a great player, rookie of the year? Probably. um What moves the needle more? A player like that or a quarterback who can be game changing?
00:26:02
Zack
I mean, I think just the Jane Daniels effect of this year is going to make people start looking at some quarterbacks more and be like, wow, this guy can really change our franchise. um So I don't know.
00:26:14
Zack
The cam board could be the guy, certainly. But he could also be a first like a, I don't know, he could be a burnout and it just not paying out at all.
00:26:17
Mason
it If the Titans go, Travis Hunter, the Browns are going to be licking their chops and they're going to be ready to draft Cam Ward.
00:26:31
Mason
You mark my words.
00:26:33
Zack
I wouldn't be mad about Travis Hunter really.
00:26:34
Mason
what does Yes, 10s.
00:26:35
Zack
I don't like, I think he would be a great player, but.
00:26:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Okay, so Travis hunters plus 140 cam ward is now plus 105 Do you think the Browns go
00:26:47
Zack
Wow.
00:26:49
Mason
should door so I just think that because well once yeah.
00:26:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Can the Browns go quarterback? I mean, they're, they're, unless they get this, I know they're trying to work out a thing where he re injured himself non football related. So maybe they can cut him without losing all that money. But if not, like you're kind of just stuck with Deshaun. And also, I don't know that kim cam cam ward. Does it feel like a guy who can play in the Cleveland elements? Like when it gets cold, you know what I mean?
00:27:18
Mason
I don't know what he can play in. I, and I feel like Zach gets excited.
00:27:21
Zack
I know very little about him, honestly.
00:27:22
Mason
I feel like Zach gets excited. And then it's like, this is also the same guy that was calling Miami frauds the whole entire season. So I feel like he's unsure too.
00:27:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, but Cam Ward had to save him.
00:27:32
Zack
but did i What did I say to Miami?
00:27:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:34
Zack
I said, you got one guy carrying the whole team on his back and just making miracles happen time and time again, which is true.
00:27:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:41
Mason
It's pretty positive upside actually.
00:27:41
Zack
He's the miracle maker guy.
00:27:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I, I think him, I think cam can be good.
00:27:44
Mason
ah Can you do that in the NFL?
00:27:44
Zack
It is.
00:27:47
Zack
I don't know. It's OK. Williams did and he had struggled in his first year.
00:27:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think Cam's going to be good. here's Here's my question though, is you guys have a new GM just brought in and you have a head coach that's not his guy, right?
00:27:52
Mason
Good point.
00:27:59
Zack
Right.
00:28:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So what's the worst thing you can do? You can draft a quarterback and the season doesn't go great. And then what does the new GM do? He says, well, that's not my head coach, fire him. And then you and then and you have to reset and you keep doing this reset and it's terrible for quarterbacks.
00:28:11
Zack
Sure.
00:28:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just, you can't, you can't,
00:28:17
Zack
Tins wants to look at Tins. He's trying to get the double tank going now.
00:28:21
Mason
Look at him.
00:28:21
Zack
He sees an opening in the AFC South.
00:28:22
Mason
He's ready for it.
00:28:23
Zack
He sees the the Texans crumbling. He's like, yeah, let's get the double tank.
00:28:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, Texans firing their team president today.
00:28:28
Zack
Let's get the Titans. Titans will want to crumble again this season so Jaguars can sneak into that playoff spot.
00:28:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah.
00:28:35
Mason
here's
00:28:36
Zack
with a new coach.
00:28:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and so
00:28:36
Mason
Here's.
00:28:37
Zack
look i'm not if If the double tank is still available, I'm down for it. I would take another season of just, if we want to do if we want to do double tank, get a quarterback next year, fire the fire Brian Callahan, hire somebody big time, get a big time QB next draft, that's fine with me.
00:28:41
Mason
I'm down for it.
00:28:49
Mason
Get him out of here.
00:28:54
Zack
I don't know that we're going to do that.
00:28:55
Mason
In my mind, we have three options that I feel like I would be content with the outcome being.
00:28:56
Zack
It'd be great.
00:29:02
Mason
If it's a risk, it's a risk, but the three outcomes would be draft Travis Hunter, draft Cam Ward, traded away for a rant, like we're robbing somebody.
00:29:12
Mason
We're literally pulling the Bears, Panthers, like just ripping somebody off because they are gonna overpay for that number one pick. Those are my three options. I'd be happy with either of them.
00:29:25
Mason
Like any any three, to be honest, right now. The thing that I'd be the most nervous about, which I did talk about the whole shador, but that was just because I was here for entertainment. I wasn't here to win ah because it's not, it just doesn't look like it. I was just going to be entertained, you know, still lose entertainment. That's all it was. It was going to be because Deon Sanders was our coach, which doesn't look like it's happening.
00:29:50
Zack
We saw Mason sent us a stat today where the Titans and the Jags were the lowest two teams in viewership. And we spent 30 minutes talking about those two teams.
00:30:01
Mason
Hey, I bet those views would be up.
00:30:01
Zack
So I hope the people enjoyed the content.
00:30:04
Mason
um um For sure, I know. And now we've spent the whole podcast talking about those two teams. I bet you those views would spike up if we had if we did the Dion, Shador, somehow got, yeah, listen.
00:30:15
Zack
I mean, I think I was Hunter Woods.
00:30:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Aim it.
00:30:17
Zack
They'll take it too. If you want to see Travis Hunter, he would still think it's myself.
00:30:18
Mason
Yeah. Oh, you're not wrong. Yeah.
00:30:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Liam Cohen's the number five trending thing on Twitter right now.
00:30:25
Zack
Wow.
00:30:25
Mason
There you go. We're back, baby.
00:30:27
Zack
Jaguars.
00:30:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're up.
00:30:27
Zack
um mar
00:30:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i Get some views up.
00:30:32
Mason
Okay, so should we shift from two teams that suck to ah some playoff talk?
00:30:36
Zack
um Let's do
00:30:41
Mason
I'm here for it.
00:30:42
Zack
it.
00:30:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right.
00:30:43
Mason
Okay, so we had some electric football
Challenges in Fan Engagement for Jaguars and Titans
00:30:45
Mason
last weekend. Let's just run it back. I want that all over again. Give me all the football. ah those games were Those games were good.
00:30:55
Mason
I'm not talking about the college football championship game either. I was just talking to NFL. Zinger.
00:31:01
Zack
Got him.
00:31:01
Mason
Okay, so we start an order here with the Washington commanders at the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday It's gonna be 1 p.m.
00:31:06
Zack
Let's do it.
00:31:10
Mason
Game Central Time on Fox Tinsley Zach who wants to go any thoughts questions concerns bets Love it.
00:31:19
Zack
love it.
00:31:21
Mason
that That's all that's all he's gonna say
00:31:21
Zack
It's a fun one. We got a team that ah
NFL Playoff Previews
00:31:25
Zack
that's been here a couple years in a row camp and kind of they they haven't won it all in the Eagles. um But they've been here versus this team that kind of come out of nowhere with a rookie quarterback kind of shocked the world a little bit.
00:31:38
Zack
Um, very fun kind of, we're on the other side of the, of our matchup. Obviously you've got two of these powerhouses who feel like they're part of the two best teams in the league playing each other in the AFC over here. This matchup is really interesting and it's a little more David Goliath type, but you know that the Eagles have some cracks, but you also know that cyclone Barkley is really good. Defense is really good. Um,
00:32:07
Zack
Fun matchup, I think. I mean, I know the Eagles are favored pretty heavy.
00:32:12
Mason
six points for sure
00:32:14
Zack
It's going to be in Philadelphia, which has to help some.
00:32:20
Zack
Jay, if Jane Daniels could pull this game off and put the team on his back, this would be like one of the most legendary, like, rookie moments you could imagine. But I don't know. Sands, what do you think?
00:32:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I think Washington does have a chance in this game. My only worry is that. um The the Lions were popping off like 10 15 yard runs at a pretty healthy clip with Jamir Gibbs And they for some reason stopped doing that.
00:32:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They just stopped running the ball.
00:32:53
Zack
Hmm.
00:32:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I Don't think the Eagles are going to take the ball out of Barkley's hands and say hurts go win the football game um Especially with hurts his knee is injured.
00:32:57
Zack
Why would you? Yeah.
00:33:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know how mobile he's going to be um Which is a big part of his game so That's that's where I get a little nervous. Washington did lose their best offensive lineman who just happens to play right guard, which is where the Eagles best defensive lineman lines up in Jordan Davis or I'm not Jordan Davis um Carter Jalen Carter.
00:33:26
Mason
channel car.
00:33:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So, but I think Daniels can kind of maneuver around that. I think it's going to be a high scoring game.
00:33:33
Mason
Hmm.
00:33:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Plus, plus six is a lot of points. I think I would go. I think I'm going to lean Eagles just because I think Barkley is the best player on the field for either team at any time.
00:33:45
Zack
Hm.
00:33:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um But I mean, Jane Daniels is awesome. I mean, if it's a one score game with the ball in his hands, i I wouldn't doubt if he took him down there in one thing.
00:34:02
Mason
Yeah, for sure. And then Jalen Hertz has, ah he's going to be playing, but you know, he had that injury last week, so we'll see what happens. But um with obviously NFC, ah both the teams coming out of the NFC East, ah this will be the third time this year ah that they'll be playing in this NFC Championship. The two teams split the regular season series this year. um They both won at home.
00:34:29
Mason
For Washington, and we both kind of talked about it already, but the key ah might be slowing down the Eagles star running back. ah He rushed for 296 yards and four touchdowns combined in their two means this year.
Eagles vs. Washington Playoff Analysis
00:34:44
Mason
So you guys heard both talking about the running game and how Saquon's been. He's got the commander's number when it comes to rushing. Barkley has topped 100 yards rushing in 11 of his last 13 games.
00:34:59
Mason
Have you guys seen this rushing total ah for the for the betting lines? It's set a record at ah the most for a postseason game ah rushing total his rushing total is currently at 127 and a half Yeah, are you betting the overrun So that's it
00:35:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's ridiculous I might
00:35:20
Zack
Well, he had, well, like he had, well, how many rushing yards did he have last week? I know he had like over 200 all purpose yards.
00:35:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think he had a hundred and now he.
00:35:29
Zack
He was close to that.
00:35:29
Mason
It's crazy, man.
00:35:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But did he have 200 rush yards?
00:35:32
Zack
I thought it was like 205 all purpose, like including passing yards or receiving yards.
00:35:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because I think he.
00:35:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I thought it was 230 with 21 being receiving.
00:35:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know. and It was a lot.
00:35:43
Zack
It was a lot.
00:35:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah I know he he had a 60 yard touchdown run and like a 50 yard touchdown run.
00:35:50
Mason
Barkley had 205 rushing yards, 26 carries, two touchdowns.
00:35:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Gosh.
00:35:57
Mason
And he had 27 receiving yards.
00:35:57
Zack
You're right. OK, 27.
00:35:59
Mason
He was second on receiving yards. Goddard was the number one.
00:36:04
Zack
You don't need receiving yards if you got 200 on the ground.
00:36:07
Mason
che we Okay, that wraps up that.
00:36:10
Zack
Really bad conditions.
00:36:12
Mason
Did you guys have anything else to add
Weather's Impact on Playoffs
00:36:14
Mason
to that game?
00:36:14
Zack
what What's the weather outlook on that guy?
00:36:18
Mason
That's a great question.
00:36:19
Zack
Like got the weather report?
00:36:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that might be important, honestly.
00:36:23
Zack
If it's like snowing and garbage again,
00:36:28
Mason
You're taking the eagles.
00:36:28
Zack
That rushing line looks pretty good.
00:36:30
Mason
Oh, you're taking rushing. Okay. Uh, let's see.
00:36:33
Zack
And they're just going to hand it off.
00:36:36
Mason
I'm literally getting on the weather app on Sunday. It looks like it's going to be low 25 high 38 cloudy.
00:36:45
Zack
Hmm.
00:36:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
Bills vs. Chiefs Playoff Anticipation
00:36:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Some good playoff football weather right there.
00:36:51
Mason
It's pretty good. I do enjoy watching a.
00:36:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ill be I'll be enjoying that next next season.
00:36:59
Mason
with his ah plus 10,000 ticket in his pocket.
00:37:02
Zack
You're just gonna be going to Kansas City.
00:37:03
Mason
on
00:37:04
Zack
So if you get there, I feel like if you go to one of the Northern instance ones, you have to go like during the winter time.
00:37:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's all right.
00:37:07
Mason
That's a stadium we've not been to. We gotta knock out another stadium tour game, guys. Anyways, we can we can schedule that. once the Once the NFL schedule comes out, we can add another stadium to the tour. Okay, let's do...
00:37:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, go in the Lambo.
00:37:25
Zack
Like I hit soldier field at like in the, in the snow when it was meant for,
00:37:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:37:30
Mason
Listen, you can call me a coward. I do not want to go to Philadelphia.
00:37:34
Zack
you should kind of wear like Philly stuff or something.
00:37:35
Mason
I'm so afraid of those fans. Like I've seen videos. I'm literally, if we go, we just be a fake fan. Like we literally be there for rooting for art.
00:37:45
Mason
Look at Tensley Chicken's head.
00:37:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not me.
00:37:47
Mason
I don't want to be spit on and cussed at and punched and half the time they're fighting other fans.
00:37:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Straight to jail.
00:37:52
Mason
They're, they're fighting their own.
00:37:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Then go to jail.
00:37:55
Zack
Since it's called the Kaftar.
00:37:56
Mason
you
00:37:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'll call the cops.
00:37:59
Mason
the Probably the best thing ever would be if tens just had like a whole stack of the straight to jail Monopoly cards and someone's trying to fight each his hands of a card straight to jail Okay, let's let's uh, let's go over this next game the bills are at the Kansas City Chiefs afternoon game on This one exciting.
00:38:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I would.
00:38:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is the Super Bowl.
00:38:16
Zack
and Fun one.
00:38:20
Mason
I need to know what the total is. It's gonna be a high scoring game maybe 430 on CBS.
00:38:26
Zack
i
00:38:28
Mason
Here, I'll go ahead and start out. So the big thing that people like to use as a weapon against ah Josh Allen is obviously Patrick Mahomes is 3-0 against the Bills and postseason crew.
00:38:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
in the playoffs, yeah.
00:38:42
Mason
Yes, and postseason.
00:38:44
Zack
pretty good.
00:38:44
Mason
However during the regular season the Chiefs lost twice the last game of the season which they benched to all of their starters and then week 11 against the Bills which was 30 to 21 if you guys remember that game ah that was um That was in Buffalo.
00:38:57
Zack
I was in Buffalo, right?
00:38:59
Mason
Yeah, so this game is at Arrowhead where the Chiefs are 9 and 0 this season and
00:39:06
Zack
It's pretty good.
00:39:07
Mason
Um, let me tell you something real quick. Uh, what I would love to see is Washington versus bull Buffalo. I think a lot of people are just tired of seeing it and this three Pete tired of seeing the chiefs. Um, however, I did find a stat just once in the last 11 playoff seasons have both road teams.
00:39:25
Mason
One and the conference championship game. So that would, that would
00:39:29
Zack
Hmm.
Defensive Strategies Against the Chiefs
00:39:30
Mason
have to be both of them winning on the road.
00:39:32
Mason
So, all right. Which, what's your all's thoughts?
00:39:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
this Like I said, this is the Super Bowl to me, honestly. These are the best two teams.
00:39:46
Mason
Yeah.
00:39:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:39:52
Mason
Should they just take the trophy to this game and take a second place one to the NFC?
00:39:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They probably should.
00:39:58
Zack
Okay, what?
00:39:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah
00:39:59
Zack
I need to know why, like ah I know that the reason the Travis Kelsey thing is that he just like doesn't run routes. He just like finds soft spots and zones and i I'll get that.
00:40:09
Zack
I get that. Can we not guard it? Like can we not just throw, throw somebody on him and just be like, don't let this large guy catch a ball today. Like how is that hard to do?
00:40:19
Zack
I don't know.
00:40:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The the theory with that is if if you Right.
00:40:20
Zack
Just like do a, do a box and one. That's what we do in basketball. Right.
00:40:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So if you run a if you run man and you just dedicate a man to Travis Kelsey It's probably a linebacker spy Milano, right their middle linebacker Well, then Travis is going to take him away from the play and then Pashma Holmes is going to dice you for 15 yards up the field if no one else is open.
00:40:40
Zack
Right.
00:40:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So then you have to run zone and that way you have extra eyeballs to help keep Patrick contained. And that's when Travis Kelsey has the freedom and the chemistry with Patrick to just kind of run his own routes and find a soft spot in his own.
00:40:51
Zack
Right.
00:40:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um And that's where they've beat people for so many years. um
00:41:03
Zack
Hm.
00:41:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But i I think the Bills got healthy at the right time. Von Miller looks like his old self. The offensive tackle position is a is a problem for the Chiefs right now. They have they have moved their starting left guard to left tackle because they just not had someone to play left tackle. Juwan Taylor is bad at right tackle. And I don't know. I just i feel like this is this is um this is Josh Allen getting the monkey off his back.
Bills as Chiefs' Conquerors?
00:41:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's he's played. Yeah, he's played like Superman all year but in a way where he's not being done with the ball and doing careless things like he's Josh or Joe Brady has really built this offense to um Run the ball protect the ball not turn it over but still scored a high clip um so Yeah, I like the bills It's so hard to pick against the Chiefs it really is because of who Patrick Holmes is but I think I think this is what this is the time that The Josh gets one
00:41:35
Mason
Time to break the streak.
00:42:10
Zack
That would be fun.
Potential Bills vs. Commanders Matchup
00:42:12
Zack
I'm rooting for the Bills here, for sure.
00:42:15
Zack
I would like to see a new team.
00:42:15
Mason
Bill's commanders.
00:42:19
Zack
so Bill's Commander should be fun. What a weird matchup that would be.
00:42:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
would be that'd be it'd be crazy
00:42:22
Mason
I'm here for it. It would be.
00:42:24
Zack
um That would be a pretty... By the way, speaking of matchups, do you guys see the ratings for the National Championship game? I called this. Who was I with?
00:42:35
Zack
Mason? Where I said I would love to see some of the ratings and how they compare They were like 12% lower than last year viewership I was like, hmm part of it's because of when it fell I think it's just weird that it's so late and ah Like I feel like like a lot of people have turned their attention to NFL playoffs already and it just felt a weird time But the matchup was kind of I don't know It is what it is
00:42:39
Mason
Hmm. Yes. Yep.
00:42:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:42:57
Mason
Yeah.
00:43:03
Mason
So you, is it the first weekend of January? That's usually the college.
00:43:09
Zack
In the 14 playoff era, it was like January 8.
00:43:10
Mason
chi eight Okay.
00:43:13
Zack
The playoff game, the first round were in the January 1.
00:43:13
Mason
So they still had playoffs, right?
00:43:16
Zack
Yeah.
00:43:17
Mason
Yeah. Okay.
00:43:18
Zack
it's like ah It's like a week after, or two weeks almost, after the end of the season usually.
00:43:24
Mason
Yeah. The timing kind of hurts them. And then the matchup.
00:43:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:43:28
Mason
I just saw so many like tweets of like how much everybody just hated those two teams and wanted neither of them to win. So there's probably just a lot of people
College Championship Viewership Decline
00:43:38
Mason
tuning out just almost kind of how it sounded like we were on the podcast.
00:43:39
Zack
Yeah.
00:43:43
Zack
Yeah, probably.
00:43:49
Zack
Okay. Feel good, everybody?
00:43:52
Mason
Feel great. I'm ready for some, some more football jags.
00:43:54
Zack
Tints? Jags?
00:43:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Go Jags. It is it is now been it's now being tweeted as official that he's going to sign the contract tonight.
00:44:02
Zack
Wow.
00:44:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, when we wake up in the mornings. ah What a day. I got my guy everyone. I didn't have to settle for a Doug Peterson 2.0.
00:44:04
Mason
Right during the podcast.
00:44:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Old washed up coach. I got my guy.
00:44:18
Zack
That's some good content. Go to Tim's Twitter account. He's roasting all the taters.
00:44:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, yeah, I'm asking.
00:44:22
Mason
Click on replies. Oh, it's hilarious.
00:44:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm asking people to cry harder because that's all I need. They just, you know, get it out. I understand I was real upset Monday too when it withdrew. um So I get it, but you can cry harder. That's, you know, help you feel better.
00:44:36
Mason
You thought you were going to have Mike McCarthy there for a minute.
00:44:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that that was a scary thought that crossed my head. um Also, shout out the state of Tennessee.
00:44:47
Zack
Mm.
00:44:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um We can now bet on Super Bowl MVPs. We've never been allowed to do it until this year.
00:44:53
Zack
Wow.
00:44:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So this is a pod exclusive right here right now.
00:44:55
Zack
Shut up.
00:44:57
Mason
They already have them out. They already have them out.
00:44:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They have them out.
00:45:00
Mason
Yeah.
00:45:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They have them out. And this is a little bit of a hedge, because if you haven't picked up on it yet, I'm pretty heavy on the bills.
00:45:05
Zack
Yep.
00:45:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um If you're in the Discord, you know that I've given out some bill stuff. A little bit of Chiefs as well. But ah here's my one hedge to ah protect myself from the Eagles getting there.
00:45:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Saquon Barkley plus 500 to win Super Bowl MVP.
00:45:25
Zack
Where's my homes?
00:45:25
Mason
Hmm.
00:45:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
My homes is plus 280, tied with Josh.
00:45:30
Zack
Wow.
00:45:33
Zack
That's fun.
00:45:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jane Daniels plus 700.
00:45:36
Zack
Where's Jalen Hart?
00:45:36
Mason
Yeah, don't take that. Do not take that because the Washington commanders are plus 700 to win. So you might as well just do that because anything can happen.
00:45:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:45:46
Mason
Who did we almost have when a wide receiver out of Tennessee, he almost won if the, if the 49ers were going to win.
00:45:54
Zack
Yeah, that's a pretty bad bet.
00:45:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh yeah, Chuan Jennings, yeah.
00:45:55
Zack
Those odds should be better.
00:45:56
Mason
So don't it's never like if the 49ers would have won the quarterback won't even won the game So don't just don't be stupid when you look at these lines So there's a little bit of a difference and if hurts is still hurting and he's not relying on his like leg They're just or if he they're not relying on him doing the running game or passing then they're just gonna run the ball like crazy if he had like two touchdowns and over 200 yards, which he's been doing so far confidently
00:45:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. That's why I'm saying Barkley, because the Eagles are like plus two 52 in the Super Bowl right now. Right. Right.
00:46:25
Mason
ah
00:46:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And if the Eagles don't get in the Super Bowl, then you get your bet back.
00:46:29
Mason
This is also true, yeah. I love stuff like this.
00:46:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So this is the first Super Bowl Sprinkle Dinkle.
00:46:32
Mason
This doesn't happen very often, but yeah.
00:46:34
Zack
Is this Draft Game?
00:46:36
Mason
Yeah. That's what I was thinking about taking Jayden Daniels, but he was the same odds as the commanders wanting it all.
00:46:38
Zack
Wow.
00:46:43
Mason
And I was like, that's not... The only reason that you would want to take that, I guess, is because you get your money back where you you just bet the ah commanders to win it all, you just lose if they lose the next game.
00:46:55
Mason
So it's almost like a free bet. It is kind of hedging a little bit.
00:46:59
Zack
Dr. Wright.
00:47:00
Mason
Kind of smart. We did it, everybody.
00:47:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:47:03
Zack
ah feel right
00:47:03
Mason
Next thing, the national anthem length. I was just being funny.
00:47:08
Zack
Hmm.
00:47:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or coin toss.
00:47:09
Mason
That's another one way that we can't bet on. The coin toss we had bet on one one year, I remember. Yeah. But I think they took it off last year. Gatorade color. That's another one we've not been able to bet on.
00:47:22
Mason
So Tinsley's drinking a Gatorade. This episode is sponsored by Gatorade.
00:47:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's my teal colored Gatorade as well.
00:47:27
Mason
Not really. There you go.
00:47:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm on brand.
00:47:32
Mason
All right. That's it everybody. Well, hopefully this was entertaining.
00:47:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Arctic Blitz.
00:47:36
Mason
There you go.
00:47:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Best Gatorade there is.
00:47:38
Mason
Hmm. You heard it here first. All right. Well, I hope, uh, that was entertaining enough. The, uh, the ah two teams back and forth talking Tinsley just, you know, Aaron it all out and we've,
00:47:51
Zack
Mm.
00:47:52
Mason
Yeah, we had a we had a fun one on this episode. We were getting ready and hyped for it. That's what we call the emergency meeting. So thank you all for being a part of it and listening to us just ramble on. ah Hopefully you guys enjoy this weekend and ah full of football and fun and we will catch you next week. See ya.